She-Hulk

[Anubis]

......Nope.

[fifthfiend]

Yeah. But, if it makes you feel any better, I'm almost always reading comics at the same time.

Every time I think it's as bad as it can get you find a way to make it even worse.

[TheCorpulent1]

It's a gift. Like my ability to make any functioning toilet break down and cry (metaphorically speaking, of course).

[fifthfiend]

And worse and worse.

[TheCorpulent1]

Some images from the new soon-to-be-regular artist for She-Hulk, Vincenzo Cucca from http://www.newsarama.com/marvelnew/she_hulk/ChesterQuestFollowup.html

http://i.newsarama.com/marvelnew/she_hulk/29/SH_TAV01Col.jpg
http://i.newsarama.com/marvelnew/she_hulk/29/SH_TAV02Col.jpg
http://i.newsarama.com/marvelnew/she_hulk/29/SH_TAV03Col.jpg

Looks like She-Hulk and M fighting from the X-Factor crossover, unless I'm mistaken. I love Cucca's art. It's a huge step up from Moll. :up:

[Anubis]

Sweet. :up:

[fifthfiend]

She-Hulk's fighting crime in pants?

Weird.

[Varient]

Some images from the new soon-to-be-regular artist for She-Hulk, Vincenzo Cucca from http://www.newsarama.com/marvelnew/she_hulk/ChesterQuestFollowup.html

http://i.newsarama.com/marvelnew/she_hulk/29/SH_TAV01Col.jpg
http://i.newsarama.com/marvelnew/she_hulk/29/SH_TAV02Col.jpg
http://i.newsarama.com/marvelnew/she_hulk/29/SH_TAV03Col.jpg

Looks like She-Hulk and M fighting from the X-Factor crossover, unless I'm mistaken. I love Cucca's art. It's a huge step up from Moll. :up:

Then it's official? M has crossed completly over?

Interesting.

[Manic]

Yes. She's white now. :(

[Anubis]

I'd say Hispanic of some sort.

[TheCorpulent1]

She was as dark as Synch when Gen X started.
She-Hulk's fighting crime in pants?

Weird.
She's been doing that for months now, both in her comic and in Hulk. She wears her normal little leotard costume in Hulk, but she has pants on over it. In her comic, she's stuck to this shirt/pants combo since David took over.

[Darthphere]

Thank God for that.

[fifthfiend]

She was as dark as Synch when Gen X started.

She's been doing that for months now, both in her comic and in Hulk. She wears her normal little leotard costume in Hulk, but she has pants on over it. In her comic, she's stuck to this shirt/pants combo since David took over.

In David's book it didn't strike me as so weird cause as far as I've read it she's just been wearing ordinary jeans and whatever shirt. Whereas this is like, pants incorporated into something like an actual superhero's costume? I mean and not tights or anything, a God's honest pair of jeans.

It's just not something you see every day.

(I read like Issue 1 of Hulk and decided I didn't care enough to keep up with it so that's been off my radar)

[TheCorpulent1]

Well, they're purple, at least.

[fifthfiend]

No I mean don't get me wrong, I think it's the best costume since forever. It's distinctive enough to rate as proper heroing dress with the benefit of allowing the wearer to actually maintain human dignity. Also, she can carry her car keys!

[Darthphere]

M being white is the greatest thing since Spider-Man.

[Manic]

M being white is the greatest thing since Spider-Man.
Blasphemy!

She used to be so beautiful...

[Darthphere]

Blasphemy!

She used to be so beautiful...

She still is beautiful. White and beautiful.:o

[fifthfiend]

Who's M?

[TheCorpulent1]

Monet St. Croix. She's on X-Factor at the moment.

[Darthphere]

Are we sure that's M though, are we just assuming?

She doesn't strike me as M because that lady has horrible fashion sense.

[TheCorpulent1]

I'm assuming. I figured it was from the X-Factor crossover in a couple months.

[Manic]

She still is beautiful. White and beautiful.:o
A rare combination.

[kane9321]

Monet St. Croix. they turned her..white?

[Anubis]

High Yellow

[Manic]

She's in "Bad" Michael Jackson territory. If this doesn't stop, she'll be in "History" Michael Jackson territory within a year or two.

[Anubis]

She suffers from mutie Vitiligo. She's still black, but only from the waist down.

[Varient]

High Yellow

LOL:grin:

[MangleBoP]

Your blasphemy knows no restraint!! :cmad: I'd argue that Linda, Buzz, and Mary Marvel cruising around in a convertible looking for Chaos Streams easily outdid a lot of the Leesburg tomfoolery early in the run. If only because of this (http://img254.imageshack.us/img254/4032/supergirlbatmanvb7.jpg).

And because Buzz is Spike.

[Humphrey Bogart]

High Yellow wanna be white

...

[BrianWilly]

And because Buzz is Spike.Yeah that kinda happened, didn't it? At first he was kind of an evil David Spade -- as if there were any other kind -- but by the end he was Spike. *shrug*

[Varient]

She suffers from mutie Vitiligo. She's still black, but only from the waist down.

yup.

From :
http://forums.superherohype.com/attachment.php?attachmentid=5296&stc=1&d=1212012717




To:
http://forums.superherohype.com/attachment.php?attachmentid=5297&stc=1&d=1212012750

meh,... to currently:
http://forums.superherohype.com/attachment.php?attachmentid=5298&stc=1&d=1212012995

[TheCorpulent1]

Damn, that is a pretty big change. What the hell?

[BrianWilly]

Skrephistanda-Prime.

[Kitsune]

She suffers from mutie Vitiligo. She's still black, but only from the waist down.
For some reason this made me thing of this:
http://superdickery.com/images/stories/seduction/waistdown.jpg

[Manic]

Well, now we know how Jen got disbarred and disillusioned. It's all because some magician named Dark Art(hur) decided to be a dick. And why? Because he just wanted to take on She-Hulk.

You know, that's actually kinda lame.

[TheCorpulent1]

Is that what this issue was about? I've decided to pick She-Hulk back up when Hercules shows up and stick around through the X-Factor crossover.

Why was she in jail?

[Kevin]

Don't know. I like the book still, but I keep thinking why am I buying it? I mean, I never see myself reading these issues again. Meh.

[TheCorpulent1]

I rarely ever read issues again. If you enjoy them the first time around, isn't that enough?

[Kevin]

It is, but you need something for the bathroom breaks.

[TheCorpulent1]

That's my first-read time. :up:

[Kevin]

:woot:

[Manic]

Is that what this issue was about? I've decided to pick She-Hulk back up when Hercules shows up and stick around through the X-Factor crossover.

Why was she in jail?
She-Hulk was chasing a bounty that was off seeing a baseball game. At that same game, she spotted that Irish guy who blew up that bar or restaurant at the beginning of PAD's run. It turns out that Irish guy was working as a body guard for Arthur Moore (aka Dark Art, apparently). When She-Hulk attacked Moore's body guard (not even noticing Moore), she violated the restraining order he placed against her. Thus, she ended up in jail. Again.

[TheCorpulent1]

Thanks.

[Galact-Gal]

Well, now we know how Jen got disbarred and disillusioned. It's all because some magician named Dark Art(hur) decided to be a dick. And why? Because he just wanted to take on She-Hulk.

You know, that's actually kinda lame.

No, some mysterious person(s) paid him to take her on. And since Bran killed Moore at the end, I suspect the same mysterious person(s) arranged for Moore's killing.

[ragingdemon155]

Man PAD's run is so underrated. I really enjoy what he's doing with the character.

Another good issue. Was also glad to see Mallory play a decent role. I mean yea she's a b**ch, but she an interesting and fun B**ch so it's all good.

Also, while I enjoy the art on the title...after seeing some of these covers, I can't help but wonder how cool it would be to have Deadato be the artist for the issues.

[TheCorpulent1]

Ew, I'd hate to see Deodato on She-Hulk's comic. Her heels would never touch the ground, even if she's barefoot.

[ragingdemon155]

Ew, I'd hate to see Deodato on She-Hulk's comic. Her heels would never touch the ground, even if she's barefoot.

You have bad taste.:dry:

[Hans]

I like Deodato's work. I never used to, but he's really developed his own unique style over the years and I dig it.

[ragingdemon155]

I like Deodato's work. I never used to, but he's really developed his own unique style over the years and I dig it.

You have good taste. :yay:

[ragingdemon155]

Well Ok, I was a bit confused at the start of the latest She-Hulk issue because I don't collect X-factor. Hate how Marvel is trying to get you to pick up the title in order to fully enjoy this story.

Loving the change in artwork.

Only problem is, Multiple Man giving She-Hulk problems? Huh? Listen I don't care if the guy splits into a thousand men....She hulk should still be able to pound away with little effort.

[TheCorpulent1]

She was pounding Madrox's dupes away with little effort. He just kept creating more dupes to replace them because his goal wasn't to beat her, it was just to detain her until she explained herself.

[EclipsedHero]

I'm really enjoying the X-Factor/She-Hulk crossover as a whole, but I'm kind of incredulous at the turn Darwin's taking. He seems to be becoming a deus ex machina device; I thought his power was to adapt him to his environment/situation for survival, and reversing Longshot's shapeshifting is a real stretch of this for me.

[TheCorpulent1]

I guess I could see the logic of it. Spider-Man's spider-sense warns him of danger, even if he can't see or have any way of identifying that danger, up to and including buzzing whenever he's even around someone who may wish him harm but isn't actively attacking him. Darwin's power seemed to do something similar with the Skrull. Obviously, if Darwin gets in the way of the Skrull's plans--which he's been doing, along with She-Hulk, Jazinda, and X-Factor, to various extents each--the Skrull would kill him, so I guess you could kind of see the ability to remove the Skrull's disguise as a means of ensuring Darwin's survival. It's really, really thin logic, I admit, but it works well enough for Spider-Man, so I guess I can buy it for Darwin.

[Brainiac 8]

I love Darwin's character, but his powers are almost a deus ex machina in of themselves. He can almost do anything he needs to, if it ensures his survival. Heck, he can even avoid having to breathe in space...so what can't he do? :huh:

[Kevin]

I love Darwin's character, but his powers are almost a deus ex machina in of themselves. He can almost do anything he needs to, if it ensures his survival. Heck, he can even avoid having to breathe in space...so what can't he do? :huh:
get a date.

[fifthfiend]

get a date.

Someone just needs to put him in a situation where he'll die unless he convinces Jessica Alba to **** him.

[Mr. Green]

I just read Slott's entire run via tpb. AWESOME. :up:

I can't wait to catch up on PAD's run. Too bad it's getting the axe though. :down

[Manic]

Going from Slott to PAD will be a jarring experience, I guarantee.

[ragingdemon155]

I just read Slott's entire run via tpb. AWESOME. :up:

I can't wait to catch up on PAD's run. Too bad it's getting the axe though. :down

The titles are completely different.

Two totally different styles.

I personally like both. Dan Slott's run is a blast to read. It had some dry moments, but overall its such a great read. PAD's run has been pretty consistent. I'm really liking it.

It's getting the ax? Really?

[Manic]

The February solicit of She-Hulk says that the book's been cancelled. Again.

[Obi-Ron]

Lame.

[MightyAvenge]

They should atleast give the New Defenders an ongoing or another mini, She-Hulk is to popular to not be on a team, plus we'd get to see more Defenders. The New Avengers could use her, they could even give the Liberators a mini or an ongoing, so maybe Marvel is gonna put her somewhere, there are a lot of possibilities. She could also become a main addition to Hulk, which she pretty much already is.

[Kevin]

Why isn't she on Slott's Avengers???!! It's not Fair!

[JustABill]

Why isn't she on Slott's Avengers???!! It's not Fair!
She should have been in instead of Hulk.

[TheCorpulent1]

Eh, I'm curious about how the Hulk will work on the Mighty Avengers. I wouldn't have been curious at all if it were She-Hulk because we all know how she works on an Avengers team. Personally, I like She-Hulk with the Liberators. I hope they stick around for a while.

[Galact-Gal]

Eh, I'm curious about how the Hulk will work on the Mighty Avengers. I wouldn't have been curious at all if it were She-Hulk because we all know how she works on an Avengers team. Personally, I like She-Hulk with the Liberators. I hope they stick around for a while.

After Avengers Disassembled, Jen might not be willing to work with Wanda. Of course, that could provide some interesting friction on the team. (Get your minds out of the gutters, guys!) Jen might decide she didn't trust Wanda and wanted to keep an eye on her. But this is all a 'What If?', since She-Hulk is not part of the Mighty Avengers.

[MightyAvenge]

She-Hulk is part of the Liberators and The Defenders, she doesn't need to be on any other team book. Since She-Hulk is being cancelled, Marvel should put out a new Ongoing or atleast a mini based on either The Liberators or The Defenders. I say do a mini were the Liberators and The Defenders team-up, if the mini is a success, I'd consider putting out an ongoing for one, if not both teams.

She-Hulk (Defender/Liberator)
Nighthawk (Defender)
Son of Satan (Defender)
Krang (Defender)
Valkyrie (Defender/Liberator)
Thundra (Liberator
Invisible Woman

Throw in some guest appearances of various Liberators and Defenders including

Dr. Strange (Defender)
Hulk (Defenfer)
Namor (Defender)
Silver Surfer (Defender)
Colossus (Defender)
Blazing Skull (Defender)
Gargoyle (Defenders)
Hellcat (Defender/Liberator)
Tigra (Liberator)
Storm (Liberator)
Black Widow (Liberator)
Spider-Woman (Liberator)

Plus many, many more. Their are so many Defenders.

[Varient]

lol at the shehulk/witch comments.
on topic: sorry to hear it's being axed "again".
geez.

[Manic]

She-Hulk has to hold some kind of record for most books cancelled, restarted, and cancelled again.

[ragingdemon155]

She-Hulk has to hold some kind of record for most books cancelled, restarted, and cancelled again.

Where will the character be going though?

Like will she be in any books regularly since her book is being canceled? Avengers titles..anything?:csad:

[CaptainCanada]

No indication of anything, though there's a lineup shuffle on Slott's MA after the first arc, so perhaps her old benefactor will take her in.

There's always Loeb's Hulk.:cwink:

[Manic]

If there is a just and loving god, she'll end up in either Mighty Avengers or Fantastic 4.


If not, Hulk.

[ragingdemon155]

No indication of anything, though there's a lineup shuffle on Slott's MA after the first arc, so perhaps her old benefactor will take her in.

There's always Loeb's Hulk.:cwink:

I think I'll stay far...far.........far away from Loeb's Hulk. Thank you.:oldrazz:

[Obi-Ron]

Good plan.

[TheCorpulent1]

Always.

I'd totally go for a Lady Liberators comic, though.

[JustABill]

A Lady Liberators ongoing should totally replace She-Hulk.

She-Hulk
Jaz
Valkyrie
Invisible Woman
Thundra

With at least three more of the various women who've joined the ranks in other series and one-shots! I'd be all over it. Especially if they got Peter David to write it.

[Mercy]

A Lady Liberators ongoing should totally replace She-Hulk.

It would be great to see the Lady Liberators take over the She-Hulk series. Peter David would be a brilliant choice as well (:
(Y)

[Obi-Ron]

I'd buy that for a dollar.

[bryanss3]

I'd buy it for 2.99

and wow I never realized how white Monet's become.

Hopefully they put She-hulk somewhere good. to bad PAD won't be writing where ever she goes.

[Varient]

I'd buy it for 2.99

and wow I never realized how white Monet's become.

Hopefully they put She-hulk somewhere good. to bad PAD won't be writing where ever she goes.

1. monet: Yup,.. we're waiting for her to dye her hair blond and put in blue contacts.

2. She-hulk: no doubt.
She's got too much of a fan following to drop completly into limbo.

[TheCorpulent1]

It's ironic that Monet somehow became white in X-Factor, since X-Factor's pretty ethnically diverse otherwise. If Monet were still black, they'd basically have all of the major ethnicities in America covered except Asian.

[Franklin Richards]

I thought mutants could change from British to Asian?



:thing: :doom: :thing:

[TheCorpulent1]

Only under very specific circumstances.

[Mercy]

Monet's white!?
O.o

[TheCorpulent1]

Now she is.

[Manic]

Monet is the new Sunspot, except Sunspot's skin color eventually evened out in the middle. Monet has only begun to get white.

[TheCorpulent1]

I predict she'll be albino by 2010.

[Manic]

One day we'll purchase an issue of X-Factor, and wonder why Darwin is wearing a wig. Then the real Darwin will show up on the next page, and be considerably darker.

[Mercy]

I predict she'll be albino by 2010.
HAHA
When did she become 'White?'
I thought she was cooler asian.

[Manic]

To best illustrate Monet's massive skintone change, here's a couple of pictures comparing her current appearance to her original appearance...


And the next mod to infract me for "hotlinking" from my own website is going on my ****-list with Morg. :cmad:

http://www.numutant.net/monet-dark.jpg
http://www.numutant.net/monet-light.jpg

[TheCorpulent1]

You know, Manic, I notice those pics are not on an image host. We have a strict no-hotlinking policy here...

:)

[Manic]

Seriously, I own Numutant.net, and I've got the bills to prove it. When the "no hotlinking" announcement was made, I actually had a notice in my signature for practically a month that said so. As soon as I took it out of my sig and posted a picture, BAM!, Morg gave me an infraction. I got it reversed after complaining and posting this this (http://www.numutant.net/manicisnothotlinking.jpg), but I'm still incredibly pissed. Absolutely no effort was made to see if I was hotlinking. Morg just saw that I posted an image that wasn't on imageshack or photobucket, and punished away! :cmad:

[TheCorpulent1]

Well, let's be fair. How do we really know that you made that pic? I mean, there've gotta be a lot of Manics and a lot of Hypes and a lot of Morgs out there in this big, crazy, wonderful world, right?

[Manic]

http://www.numutant.net/corp.jpg

[fifthfiend]

http://www.numutant.net/corp.jpg

Pffft, that could be about anyone.

[TheCorpulent1]

I know, right? I think we're gonna need to see some signed documents, preferably in triplicate, if you please. :o

[Manic]

Jeeze. Just don't read me any of your poetry afterward.


[/Obscure Hitchhiker's Guide to the Galaxy joke about Vogons]

[TheCorpulent1]

I never got around to reading that. Since I seem to be on a semi-classic-books-that-got-made-into-movies kick recently (I just read A Clockwork Orange and I Am Legend before that), I think I'll finally do that. Thanks for reminding me. :up:

[fifthfiend]

Protip: If you decide to work your way through the series and find yourself pretty happy about things after you finish book four, there is no book five.

[Obi-Ron]

Book five was okay, if only for closure to the whole Agrajag thing.

[Franklin Richards]

I never got around to reading that. Since I seem to be on a semi-classic-books-that-got-made-into-movies kick recently (I just read A Clockwork Orange and I Am Legend before that), I think I'll finally do that. Thanks for reminding me. :up:

One Flew Over the Cuckoo's Nest should be on your list.



:thing: :doom: :thing:

[ragingdemon155]

Issue 36 must have slipped by me or something cause I missed it. Picked up issue #37 though and it's a real shame that this title is being canceled. Peter David is really putting in some solid work with the character. I've heard some rumors of the title being relaunched but not with She-Hulk as the lead.

[Manic]

Yeah, they're releasing a Savage She-Hulk comic about some new broad who's the genetic something something blah blah. I really don't care. If it ain't Jen, I ain't readin' it.

[Mr. Green]

It's Thundra and Hulk's test tube baby.

[TheCorpulent1]

Yeah, they're releasing a Savage She-Hulk comic about some new broad who's the genetic something something blah blah. I really don't care. If it ain't Jen, I ain't readin' it.
That was my reaction. Not so much because it's not Jen as it is because the Thundra/Hulk kid wasn't interesting at all in the Hulk Family one-shot.

[Mr. Green]

Yeah, really. Kind of a pointless character. Van Lente is a good writer though. I imagine the mini could be cool, especially if he has a good art team with him.

[TheCorpulent1]

It'll probably be readable, at least.

[Manic]

Well, I'm not buying it. Mustn't feed the beast.


In this case, the beast is the complete bastardization of the Hulk franchise.

[TheCorpulent1]

It's a shame, though. If the series doesn't sell well, that'll probably be it for any She-Hulk comic for a long time to come.

[Mr. Green]

Yeah, it sucks Shulkie's getting the axe. But I think the Hulk franchise is looking better now than it was pre-Planet Hulk. The Hulk book itself blows but at least it sell extremely well. Plus we have Incredible Herc -- AWESOME. And don't foget Skaar Son of Hulk -- also AWESOME. She-Hulk had a great run with Slott and PAD's run was also really good.

So the Hulk franchise doesn't really suck too bad.

[Obi-Ron]

If it ain't Jen, I ain't readin' it.

Seconded.

[TheCorpulent1]

Yeah, it sucks Shulkie's getting the axe. But I think the Hulk franchise is looking better now than it was pre-Planet Hulk. The Hulk book itself blows but at least it sell extremely well. Plus we have Incredible Herc -- AWESOME. And don't foget Skaar Son of Hulk -- also AWESOME. She-Hulk had a great run with Slott and PAD's run was also really good.

So the Hulk franchise doesn't really suck too bad.
I consider Incredible Herc more of an ancillary Avengers title than a Hulk book at this point, especially now that he's joined the Mighty Avengers. But I suppose it could fit in either category.

[Mr. Green]

No way, man. Don't forget, Incredible Herc used to be Incredible Hulk, the first arc of Incredible Herc technically happened while it still had that name during WWH, the title was born from the aftermath of WWH, Cho and Herc are both Hulk allies... Plus at the end of each Incredible Herc issue they advertise Shulkie, Hulk, and Skaar.

[Manic]

Incredible Herc is now a Hulk title in the same way Captain Britain is an X-title.

Remotely.

[TheCorpulent1]

Yeah, that's my feeling on it as well. The characters and/or concepts have some roots in those franchises, but they're pretty solidly their own thing right now, and in Herc's case, his own thing happens to be more in line with the Avengers franchise.

[ragingdemon155]

It's a shame, though. If the series doesn't sell well, that'll probably be it for any She-Hulk comic for a long time to come.

I really don't understand what Marvel is going for by sending She-Hulk to the bench for this new female Hulk. Did She-Hulk really sell that bad? Are there any plans for She-Hulk to maybe join one of the Avenger titles? At this time I'll take any book with She-Hulk in it. :o

[TheCorpulent1]

I'm sure she'll still pop up from time to time.

[Anubis]

I don't really care either way to tell you the truth. Unless Slott takes over again and manages to avoid the great-work-in-the-past-jinx. Like Mark Waid on Flash.

[TheCorpulent1]

Look, aside from the vagina monsters, that run was not so bad. :o

[Anubis]

The back up in every issue that ended up tying the whole thing together at the end was effin' awesome.....but the vagina monsters, and the way he was handling the kids was just crap.

[fifthfiend]

I picked up whichever issue where his kid was like a four year old Hulk Hogan or some **** and I was like, naw, I'm out.

**** I couldn't even stick around for the vag-beasts.

Book five was okay

Is "okay" your word for "never happened and doesn't exist"? Because if that's the case, then it's totally okay.

[Anubis]

I know man, can't we just have super fast kids and call it a day? Or better yet, he shoulda kept them babies and barely acknowledge them. Kids of superheros should be handled like the kids on Everybody loves Raymond. To this day I still don't know those little brats names. You barely noticed them until there was an episode that required Ray to actually interact with the little poop machines.

Do that, every once in awhile have Flash running out for milk or changing diapers and getting poop on his suit and not notice it while fighting Super villains all day. That is how you handle Superheros with kids.

[TheCorpulent1]

Ultimately, this is all Dan DiDio's fault. If he hadn't been so obsessed with getting Barry back, he wouldn't have set it all up in Infinite Crisis and then backed out at the last second, Bart wouldn't have taken over as the interim Flash, and Wally, Linda, and the kids could've been developed over more than just the 10 or 12 issues we got to see them in before the series was unceremoniously canceled after an even worse Alan Burnett story. :o

[fifthfiend]

I know man, can't we just have super fast kids and call it a day? Or better yet, he shoulda kept them babies and barely acknowledge them. Kids of superheros should be handled like the kids on Everybody loves Raymond. To this day I still don't know those little brats names. You barely noticed them until there was an episode that required Ray to actually interact with the little poop machines.

Do that, every once in awhile have Flash running out for milk or changing diapers and getting poop on his suit and not notice it while fighting Super villains all day. That is how you handle Superheros with kids.

For some reason comics writers always wanna come up with some sillyass way to skip the poop-on-the-supersuit stage, when it's like what the **** fellas, you're passing up gold!