Naruto

[Enzyme]

Crap, I walzted into this thread without my think on and decided to click that tag. I don't read the manga so I have no diea who that is, but I do know I've probably ruined episode 297 for myself. :(:cmad:

[Twitch]

Well ... pics for the next chapter, with a brief 3 line script of some sort, are out. And it looks like the worst has come :(

Asuma dies.

:wow::csad:

[Colossal Spoons]

I just got back into reading the manga where I left off. Chapter 238; right before Kakashi Gaiden so it'll be a while before I can chat about cool current events like the rest of you :(

[Knives122]

You could just dl them all and read them in one run.

DIRRRRR!!!!

[Colossal Spoons]

I use a website which has them all scanned. I say it's gonna take a while cuz I kinda have other stuff goin on. :up:

[Twitch]

speaking of the manga has anyone got them from Borders or anything? They're up to vol. 11 with vol. 12 coming out in December. :up:

[X-Ray]

Chapter 328 Online reading :csad: (http://www.toughisntenough.com/)

[dr venture]

That sucks that that had to happen:csad: :csad:

[darkdaz]

I thought the filler was going to end soon for the TV show. Still seems like filler to me. Story line is ok though.

[Corinthian™]

ASUMAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAA:csad:

[Gotenks]

First the Third then Asuma....man I fell bad for konohamru.
He is next.:woot:

[Twitch]

ASUMAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAA:csad:

Maybe I'm an evil person, but I just laughed so hard :csad:

[Colossal Spoons]

First the Third then Asuma....man I fell bad for konohamru.
He is next.:woot:

Would anybody really care if he died? I mean seriously lol. They put him in the latest Naruto figting video game and my boys and I just laughed when we saw him.

[Gotenks]

I wouldnt but it would suck.

[Corinthian™]

First the Third then Asuma....man I fell bad for konohamru.
He is next.:woot:
wait.. is Konohamaru Asuma's son?:huh:

[dr venture]

Isnt Konohamuru the thirds grandson

[Gotenks]

wait.. is Konohamaru Asuma's son?:huh:

Im not really sure....it could possibly be his uncle.
They all have to be related some way.

[Gotenks]

Isnt Konohamuru the thirds grandson

Yeah and Asuma is the son of the third.

[KalKai]

I thought the filler was going to end soon for the TV show. Still seems like filler to me.

Unfortunately.

Does anyone know in what episode is the timeskip supposed to happen?

[Colossal Spoons]

Yeah and Asuma is the son of the third.

Wow, I didn't know that. :up:

[Lucy in the sky]

ASUMAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAA:csad:

Why! I would have never even thought of Konohamaru had some1 said something i feel sorry for a fictional character:o

[oakzap425]

Why would you feel sorry for konohamaru? :confused:


We don't even know his relation to Asuma...

[Lucy in the sky]

Everyone is born and everyone dies. In between there is living and some people don't use their time as well as others. i like to make assumptions on relations of anime characters and feel sorry for them. Or i was just hoping for Asuma to be his father and he vows revenge on the entirety of akatsuki? Or even off of the 3rd dying.

[Colossal Spoons]

Nice avvy Oakzap :p

[X-Ray]

When word of Asuma's death reaches back to Konoha. Konohamaru's reaction should pretty much tell us how he is/is not related to Asuma. Til then it's all assumptions. But for good reasons. I mean we all knew Konohamaru was the 3rd's grandson. When Asuma was revealed to be the 3rd's son. Everyone jumped the shark. I don't blame them.

[oakzap425]

...X, what relation do you think it is?

[oakzap425]

Nice avvy Oakzap :p



I try!

[X-Ray]

...X, what relation do you think it is?

The only 2 possibilities I see are father-son and uncle-nephew.

So I'll go with Uncle-nephew ........ for now.

[oakzap425]

...I think there would have been more foreshadowing prior to the death, if it were father and son. I'm sticking to Unlce-Nephew

[Gotenks]

When word of Asuma's death reaches back to Konoha. Konohamaru's reaction should pretty much tell us how he is/is not related to Asuma. Til then it's all assumptions. But for good reasons. I mean we all knew Konohamaru was the 3rd's grandson. When Asuma was revealed to be the 3rd's son. Everyone jumped the shark. I don't blame them.

All we can do now is wait then.

[Colossal Spoons]

Wait, how is Naruto going on chuunin/jounin level missions while he's still a genin?

[Corinthian™]

Wait, how is Naruto going on chuunin/jounin level missions while he's still a genin?
because he's actually a Chuunin level Genin :yay:

And in the manga I suppose he's a Jounin level Genin

[Gotenks]

Yeah, besides everyone knows his potential.

[Colossal Spoons]

Yeah, I just figured it'd be more regulated. Where I am in the manga, they just got back from seeing Sasuke and Naruto's training to manipulate his wind chakra.

[Colossal Spoons]

Ok, after a year, I'm finally caught up on the manga. Go me!

The Akatsuki's final plan is not what I expected, and kind of a letdown really. It's all mad-scientist-y and "take over the world". I thought each of the 9 members was gonna have a tailed beast sealed inside them with the leader getting Naruto's.

[Crimson_L]

Ok, after a year, I'm finally caught up on the manga. Go me!

The Akatsuki's final plan is not what I expected, and kind of a letdown really. It's all mad-scientist-y and "take over the world". I thought each of the 9 members was gonna have a tailed beast sealed inside them with the leader getting Naruto's.

I agree with this, its the "typical" western comic villain's goal:whatever:. But its all good:woot:.

[Gotenks]

Ok, after a year, I'm finally caught up on the manga. Go me!

The Akatsuki's final plan is not what I expected, and kind of a letdown really. It's all mad-scientist-y and "take over the world". I thought each of the 9 members was gonna have a tailed beast sealed inside them with the leader getting Naruto's.

Yeah that would of been a nice twist!

[Colossal Spoons]

Yeah that would of been a nice twist!

Seriously, could you imagine Kisame with even MORE chakra!? :eek:

[X-Ray]

Ok, after a year, I'm finally caught up on the manga. Go me!

The Akatsuki's final plan is not what I expected, and kind of a letdown really. It's all mad-scientist-y and "take over the world". I thought each of the 9 members was gonna have a tailed beast sealed inside them with the leader getting Naruto's.

Yep. Their plan didn't reveal anything new. The 1st phase with the money was already out there. And the 3rd phase was kinda obvious. I mean we hear this type of plan to take over the world all the time. Now the 2nd phase was kinda new. Having every country, village go at war with one another. Now that would be something to see :word:

...

I read a summary for 330 over at mangahelpers.com. Looks like news of Asuma's death reaches back to Konoha. And everyone gathers for his funeral :csad:

[Colossal Spoons]

I hope Naruto gets Asuma's chakra blades. :D

[Genesis 1.0]

Question for the resident experts here:

How is it that Sasuke is able to walk away after activating his Cursed Seal Level 2 against Naruto after he sporuted his fox tail? Shouldn't that have been a stalemate at least?

[Gotenks]

Naruto only scratched his headband.

[Colossal Spoons]

Question for the resident experts here:

How is it that Sasuke is able to walk away after activating his Cursed Seal Level 2 against Naruto after he sporuted his fox tail? Shouldn't that have been a stalemate at least?

Personally, I think that since Naruto still has consciousness untill 4 tails; that he wasn't trying to kill or seriously injur Sasuke. He just wanted to either knock him out or subdue him so he could he brought back to Konoha. Sasuke on the other hand, was not only overcome by the seal, but he's just a mean ass.

[Genesis 1.0]

Personally, I think that since Naruto still has consciousness untill 4 tails; that he wasn't trying to kill or seriously injur Sasuke. He just wanted to either knock him out or subdue him so he could he brought back to Konoha. Sasuke on the other hand, was not only overcome by the seal, but he's just a mean ass.

That's what I was thinking, his claim that he'd break his arms and legs sounded more like emotion and bravado. Still it irks me to see Sasuke walk away for some reason.

While I'm at it, Spoons do you know of a site where I can get information on what happens after Season 9? The one resource I was using falters after that point.

[Colossal Spoons]

That's what I was thinking, his claim that he'd break his arms and legs sounded more like emotion and bravado. Still it irks me to see Sasuke walk away for some reason.

Get ready to be irked one more time then....and irked HARD :cmad:

While I'm at it, Spoons do you know of a site where I can get information on what happens after Season 9? The one resource I was using falters after that point.

I'm not good with "seasons" of the anime. Season 9 is pretty much filler so I can't direct you anywhere to find more info. I suggest you read the manga from now on as that stuff is actually relevant. :up:


...

[Genesis 1.0]

Wait a minute, what the hell do you mean irked again? Oh crap, just when I thought I was done pissing and moaning.

As to getting the manga, you mean I can't be cheap anymore?

Spoons you're just full of good news.

*Cracks piggy bank*

EDIT: By the way, when I said the end of that season it was when Naruto, Lee, and Sakura are escorting the shinobazu to the capital, it's the 2nd time Naruto, Sakura, and Lee have teamed together outside the Konoha 11 arc, the first being in the 3rd movie.

[Colossal Spoons]

PM on it's way.

[Genesis 1.0]

I hope it's not more bad news, by the way I edited my post to specify the instant I was talking about.

[Genesis 1.0]

Spoons = Ownage.

Now that's one hell of a link and no more fillers to choke on. Well it's going to take me a while to read all this so if I disappear for a month or so, you know where I am.

[Colossal Spoons]

I was pretty pissed off when i realized I had watched about 30 episodes of filler. Then I hit the manga and it's been awesome ever since.

Some of those get kinda hard to read but if you squint, tweak your comp's contrast, and get laser eye surgery, you should be able to read it. :up:

[Knives122]

Spoons spoons spoons. This is why you should have been reading the manga when Itachi showed up......I pretty much stopped watching the fillers when they started(a year and a half ago)

[X-Ray]

Chapter 330 Online :word: ... I mean :csad: (http://www.toughisntenough.com/)

I knew it. The relationship between Asuma & Konohamaru was .......... Uncle-nephew.

[Colossal Spoons]

Spoons spoons spoons. This is why you should have been reading the manga when Itachi showed up......I pretty much stopped watching the fillers when they started(a year and a half ago)

Yeah, I watched filler all the way up until these 2 fat brothers attacked and Team Asuma had to fight them. :csad:

[hulkamania]

hmm.... Naruto's getting closer....

[Colossal Spoons]

Awesome issue. I wished Naruto would have gotten Asuma's blades but w/e. and him always using kage bunshin to do his moves is borderline cheating; who's gonna let him conjure up 3 clones in a fight?

[Lucy in the sky]

Thanks for the link X kurenai looked like meth addict but Shikamaru looks like a badass with a heart of gold!

I have to start typing coherently

[Colossal Spoons]

I hope Team Asuma doesn't go off alone. Shikamaru is a jounin and all but this really should be a mission for more people.

[Lucy in the sky]

i would say that badasses are immune to death but Asuma died!(Zabuza was kind of badass too i guess) So I just don't know anything anymore! I also found out i have seen every episode of "filler" and it has no prevalence to what happened!

I need a good 26 episode so i know everything that is in it is meant to be there!

[Gotenks]

I was pretty pissed off when i realized I had watched about 30 episodes of filler. Then I hit the manga and it's been awesome ever since.

Same here.

[Gotenks]

I hope Team Asuma doesn't go off alone. Shikamaru is a jounin and all but this really should be a mission for more people.

Im pretty sure they will start it off and more will come to help later on.

[Gotenks]

Chapter 330 Online :word: ... I mean :csad: (http://www.toughisntenough.com/)

I knew it. The relationship between Asuma & Konohamaru was .......... Uncle-nephew.


Im glad that we got that taken care of now we have to find out the relationship between Naruto and The Fourth.

[Magma_15]

Im pretty sure they will start it off and more will come to help later on.

Yeah, they'll get to take out their vengence then get their @sses kicked, then help will come.

[Gotenks]

^lol, yup just what I was thinking.

[Colossal Spoons]

Yeah, they'll get to take out their vengence then get their @sses kicked, then help will come.

Hopefully Neji is involved, the series needs more of him now that the time skip occurred.

[Magma_15]

I agree, I think it would be cool if Neji and Hinata teamed up in a fight. It would be nice to see Neji acknowledge Hinata's improvement and to see she is a formitable ninja. But I think Chouji is a cool fighter too so he better a good scene.

[oakzap425]

I think Neji has accepted Hinata.

[Colossal Spoons]

Yeah, the healing started after Naruto beat him during the Chuunin exam.

[Lucy in the sky]

Out of all the reformed people because of Naruto i have to say he is the best. The best before reforming too.


Sasuke -Sure Tupac himself said revenge is right up there with getting p@#$%y but your entire life devoted to it :o

Gaara is Kazekage for all the wrong reasons imo.

Tsunade is just there i think.

i think Hidan has to reform eventually that religion is too cool and is making me doubt atheism

[oakzap425]

...How did Naruto reform? :confused:


....Edit: Nevermind... saw the beginning of the post at a glance.

[oakzap425]

Out of all the reformed people because of Naruto i have to say he is the best. The best before reforming too.


Sasuke -Sure Tupac himself said revenge is right up there with getting p@#$%y but your entire life devoted to it :o

Gaara is Kazekage for all the wrong reasons imo.

Tsunade is just there i think.

i think Hidan has to reform eventually that religion is too cool and is making me doubt atheism



...Gaara is Kazekage for the wrong reasons?


Sometimes I wonder if people really are reading the manga, and getting the point of the story...

[Colossal Spoons]

I wonder when/why Itachi and Sasuke are going to have a rematch? i wanna see Itachi destroy Sasuke again and send him spiraling into deeper depression/insanity.

[Gotenks]

...Gaara is Kazekage for the wrong reasons?


Sometimes I wonder if people really are reading the manga, and getting the point of the story...

I hope he was kidding or maybe he just doesn't like Gaara.

[Lucy in the sky]

Yeah, I don't like Gaara and what i said does sound stupid. I think it is dumb that he became Kazekage to feel needed by someone. Wanting to be respected by everyone. The guy was original with wanting to kill for existence and now is just like Naruto. Jinchuuriki confuse me.

Has there ever been a reason as to why so many characters have an eye covered? I know Kakashi has a reason but now almost every1 is doing it. Ino, Deidara, Danzou, 1 of the guys with Asuma fighting akatsuki, and that one guy from Sand village. I'm bad with names. Doesn't help you fight1

I'm still confused to Sasori and puppet aging and such... So i don't know what i'm talking about. I need to master spacial recomposition to make a S-ranked jutsu or something.:csad:

If Itachi and Sasuke fight again I'm pretty sure he would then want to kill Naruto if he is really all about avenging. Then Sasuke would be dead and Sakura goes goth or something. Itachi saying that Sasuke lacks hatred was wrong from the beginning there is too much of an age gap for him to say that.

[X-Ray]

A RAW page of chapter 331 was leaked. Guess whose getting in on the hunt ...

http://img329.imageshack.us/img329/428/77674naz122425loky1.jpg

You gotta admit that's pretty cool. We don't see much of the guy. Hopefully this is just the begining. :word:

And here's a translated short summary to 331 .....

綱手に止められる3人
Tsunade trys to stop the three of them (team 10)
綱手に叱られる
She Scolds them
意地は通したいと煙草を吸いながら語るシカマル
Shikamaru tells her while puffing out smoke that he'll go regardless.


でも、4人一組じゃないとダメと頑と出すことを拒む綱手
but Tsuande firmly refuses saying that it has to be a 4 man cell

カカシ降臨
kakashi appears
「小隊は4人居ればいいですよね」
"A team needs to have 4 people right?"
カカシ加わる
Kakashi joins them

舞台変わって二尾が取り込まれたようなそんな感じの描写
The scence changes to a image(description) of the extraction of the nibi.

さらに舞台変わって、取り調べ室で賞金支給の担当のハゲが取り調べを受ける（角図の事を聞かれ る）
The scence changes again, searching the Baldy from the bounty station, asking him about kakuzu.

最後、綱手がサクラに24時間以内で新術を完成させるように指令を出した所で終わり
Last, episode ends with Tsuande ordering Sakura to [help?] complete the new Jutsu within 24 hours

Spoiler pic, Konoha is hunting Akatsuki, A rare Ibiki appearance

In the picture Ibiki is saying "With my menthods I'll make you spit it out"

Oh snaps! :wow: :word:

[Lucy in the sky]

If kakashi starts to get his displacement down or whatever that should b3e able to kill Hidan right? NOt kill him but incapacitate his limbs to a different dimension? I wonder if Kakashi will be performing the rasengan now despite it being his "One and only original move":huh: :wow:

[X-Ray]

There's rumors going around how the Kakashi leaving with team 10 is actually Naruto in disguise. Which makes sense since Kakashi has his hand wrapped up as if he had been injured during Naruto's training.

[X-Ray]

Chapter 331 Online :word: (http://shc221b.blogspot.com/2006/11/naruto-manga-chapter-331.html)

[Lucy in the sky]

cool. Thanks for the link

[Colossal Spoons]

If kakashi starts to get his displacement down or whatever that should b3e able to kill Hidan right? NOt kill him but incapacitate his limbs to a different dimension? I wonder if Kakashi will be performing the rasengan now despite it being his "One and only original move":huh: :wow:

If Hidan's "circle of death" justu isn't bloodline like I think it is, I wanna see Kakashi copy it....assuming it really isn't Naruto using a jutsu.

[Lucy in the sky]

Maybe it isn't bloodline but you have to be a devout person to the Jashin religion.

[Colossal Spoons]

Is that a requirement though?

[Lucy in the sky]

I have no clue. What i don't get is how he was talking with no body! vocal cords and stuff. I have to admit that akatsuki has some pretty cool members Hidan and Sasori was cool.

[Colossal Spoons]

Sasori didn't really interest me. I wanna see what Tobi can do...and who the damn leader is!

[Lucy in the sky]

I liked how he himself was a puppet and how he still looked like a kid. He did get embarassed though . >(
I'm guessing Tobi does some sort of vertigo jutsu or something and messes with depth perception since everyone feels it necessary to use only 1 eye.

[Colossal Spoons]

Now that I think of it, I'm interested in every Akatsuki membr except Deidara. Deidara and Sai are easily my least favorite characters in the whole series; taking the title from Chouji.

[Lucy in the sky]

Sai's jutsu's i think are cool but his story is so stupid. My least favorite character would have to be Ino. I don't even think she is serious with being a ninja. But then there is always that Ebisu guy

[Colossal Spoons]

Since we haven't seen anybody from team 10 "fight", hopefully they all learned some cool new jutsus; because you're right about Ino.

[oakzap425]

If kakashi starts to get his displacement down or whatever that should b3e able to kill Hidan right? NOt kill him but incapacitate his limbs to a different dimension? I wonder if Kakashi will be performing the rasengan now despite it being his "One and only original move":huh: :wow:


...You have Chidori/Raikiri confused with Rasengan, as Kakashi's one and only original move. Rasengan can't be Kakakshi's original move if it was invented by Yondaime...

[Gotenks]

Now that I think of it, I'm interested in every Akatsuki membr except Deidara. Deidara and Sai are easily my least favorite characters in the whole series; taking the title from Chouji.

You don't like Chouji?
I mean yeah, has not done much, but I think he is cool.

[Lucy in the sky]

...You have Chidori/Raikiri confused with Rasengan, as Kakashi's one and only original move. Rasengan can't be Kakakshi's original move if it was invented by Yondaime...

Yeah i worded ir wrong but now that you mention Raikiri beiing more powerful and different than chidori he would have 2 original moves! Why the hate on chouji he's a little bigger but definitely has the best way of the ninja!:woot: I don't know why i'm thinking of this but has Ino found a new crush besides Sasuke? She mentions Sai looks like him but?

[Twitch]

Chidori/Raikiri is the same thing :huh:

[Colossal Spoons]

You don't like Chouji?
I mean yeah, has not done much, but I think he is cool.

Not even a little bit. His new armor is tight though :up:

[oakzap425]

Chidori/Raikiri is the same thing :huh:



...It is...


But Lucy has a habit of doing that when told he is wrong...

[Lucy in the sky]

...It is...


But Lucy has a habit of doing that when told he is wrong...

One Thousand Birds
http://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/en/thumb/d/df/Chidori.jpg/150px-Chidori.jpg (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Image:Chidori.jpg) http://en.wikipedia.org/skins-1.5/common/images/magnify-clip.png (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Image:Chidori.jpg)
Sasuke using One Thousand Birds



Name: Chidori, 千鳥, literally "One Thousand Birds"
Type: A-rank, Offensive, Short range (0-5m)
Users: Kakashi Hatake (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Kakashi_Hatake), Sasuke Uchiha (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Sasuke_Uchiha)This jutsu is Kakashi's only original technique, though he now uses an S-ranked version known as the Lightning Blade (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_ninjutsu_in_Naruto_%28H-R%29#Lightning_Blade).

That is where i thought it would be two moves. Why must we argue all the time!? This is like a family at Thanksgiving:csad: From what i had seen on wikipedia i had said that if it is wrong i stand corrected

Lightning Blade

Name: Raikiri, 雷切, literally "Lightning Blade/Cut/Edge", Viz "Lightning Blade/Thrust"
Type: S-rank, Offensive, Short range (0-5m)
User: Kakashi Hatake (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Kakashi_Hatake)This jutsu is an enhanced form of the One Thousand Birds (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_ninjutsu_in_Naruto_%28H-R%29#One_Thousand_Birds), and has the same, albeit more powerful, effect. Kakashi is the only one able to use it, and it is named as such because he once cut a lightning bolt with it. This jutsu requires a larger amount of chakra and better chakra control. This is exemplified in their respective appearances. The One Thousand Birds creates a large mass of chakra in one hand that appears near-white, while the Lightning Blade is considerably more concentrated and appears in the normal blue color of chakra.

He created it around the time he was promoted to Jonin, and later taught it to Sasuke.

[oakzap425]

...So, it's basically the same thing. It's just a more advanced version of Chidori...


And the cutting the lighting bolt bit is technically a myth. no one ever say kakashi do it.


stop reading wikipedia...

[Lucy in the sky]

The same is said for great fireball jutsus and just plain fireball jutsus then?

Ok i'm going to stop reading wikipedia and only take actual fact from you and Masashi Kishimoto himself:oldrazz:

http://img.gkblogger.com/blog/imgdb/000/000/002/756_2.jpg

[Jplaya2023]

Sasori didn't really interest me. I wanna see what Tobi can do...and who the damn leader is!


tobi is obito, and the AL leader is uchiha madora

[Colossal Spoons]

tobi is obito, and the AL leader is uchiha madora

Man, if your prediction about Tobi is right; I'd be so damn happy. Though their characters are VERY different. Who's Madora though?

[X-Ray]

tobi is obito, and the AL leader is uchiha madora

Neither of those has been confirmed. Til Tobi takes off his mask & the AL is fully exposed. It's all speculation.


Man, if your prediction about Tobi is right; I'd be so damn happy. Though their characters are VERY different. Who's Madora though?

Uchiha Madara is the name the 9-tails fox brought up in chapter 308 or 309. Here's a nice theory on how that guy might be involve in this whole thing. (http://forums.narutofan.com/showthread.php?t=106576) Major spoilers in that theory. So click at your own risk :oldrazz:

[Lucy in the sky]

I don't think that his father would ever be able to be sealed away forever. For Sasuke to get his mangekyou he would have to kill Naruto. Unless he gets it in an unexplained way like Kakashi:ninja: I can't see the leader of akatsuki or itachi wanting to seal him anyway.

[TheVileOne]

The leader being Uchiha Madara = fanfiction/speculation.

[Twitch]

...It is...


But Lucy has a habit of doing that when told he is wrong...

What I want know is why Kishimoto gave it a second name, cause I just caught up on the manga.....and he never refers to it as Rakiri since it was introduced. Its mostly Chidori.

[Lucy in the sky]

I notice that he says lightning blade in the video games, can't remember for the show. I don't know Oak is all knowing here I just need links for the latest chapters :o :woot:

[Corinthian™]

the second name is an alias... since in the original magna Sarutobi was the one who used the "Raikiri" to defeat a tailed demon(five or four tails)... it was given then to kakashi and then to Sasuke...

[Twitch]

Oh okay thanks for the clear-up.

[Avangarde]

I finally decided to take a look at Nurato, its not bad although I have only seen the first episode. I'm guessing it evolves into a nice plot driven story?

[Corinthian™]

I finally decided to take a look at Nurato, its not bad although I have only seen the first episode. I'm guessing it evolves into a nice plot driven story?
heck yeah.. some episodes have you by the seat.. but don't expect much from the first season (first 20 episodes or so).. it builds up nicely after that

[Lucy in the sky]

heck yeah.. some episodes have you by the seat.. but don't expect much from the first season (first 20 episodes or so).. it builds up nicely after that

First season was the best! Episodes 16 through 19 were the best imo. It was the first flashbacking and that made it special! :woot:

[Corinthian™]

First season was the best! Episodes 16 through 19 were the best imo. It was the first flashbacking and that made it special! :woot:
I'm biased.. but I think that the Sasuke vs. Orochimaru part was the begining of the really ****ingly awesome part of the anime... also the fight of Gaara vs. Rock Lee and the whole Naruto vs. Sound five arc was orgasmic.... very emotive and quite entretaining... Chouji brought a tear to my eye and over all Rock Lee rocks my ass :csad:

[X-Ray]

I finally decided to take a look at Nurato, its not bad although I have only seen the first episode.

Glad you're liking it so far. Even if it is just after viewing one episode.

I'm guessing it evolves into a nice plot driven story?

Indeed it does. If you have a chance, read the manga. The anime series is great til 135 when the fillers kick in :cmad:

[X-Ray]

Oh btw ... 332 is out.

Nothing new is revealed other than ...

Ino preforming the mind switch jutsu on a bird to locate Hidan & Kakuzu.

and

The extraction of the 2 tails demon from Nibi is complete. In short ... she's dead :csad:

[Corinthian™]

it was ****ing awesome!:woot:

[X-Ray]

It's official. The fillers will end in spring 2007. In Japan, spring starts in Feburary. So it's 3-4 months away. That's like 12 episodes, give or take. The series will also be going by another name. Naruto: Shippuu-den/Naruto: Hurricane Chronicles. Read about it here (http://forums.narutofan.com/showthread.php?t=157592).

[Twitch]

Finally **** Yeah

The Name Change works IMO opinion because Naruto covers his childhood and Naruto:HC covers his adult years.

ex: Dragon Ball to Dragon Ball Z

[Lucy in the sky]

I'm biased.. but I think that the Sasuke vs. Orochimaru part was the begining of the really ****ingly awesome part of the anime... also the fight of Gaara vs. Rock Lee and the whole Naruto vs. Sound five arc was orgasmic.... very emotive and quite entretaining... Chouji brought a tear to my eye and over all Rock Lee rocks my ass :csad:

I have to agree with you, I guess i'm biased from that being the first episodes i watched and all in one sitting

http://i12.photobucket.com/albums/a201/pnkrock1984/Naruto/anti_drug/drugyondaime_village.jpg

[oakzap425]

Oh btw ... 332 is out.

Nothing new is revealed other than ...

Ino preforming the mind switch jutsu on a bird to locate Hidan & Kakuzu.

and

The extraction of the 2 tails demon from Nibi is complete. In short ... she's dead :csad:




...Not to bust your balls, because you are part of the Hype's Sannin Group here:
It's more the Extraction of the 2 Tails From Yugito. The 2 tails is Nibi. Nibib is just the actual name. Yugito is the Jinchuriki that housed Nibib (Two tails).


But just the same... :p

[oakzap425]

Finally **** Yeah

The Name Change works IMO opinion because Naruto covers his childhood and Naruto:HC covers his adult years.

ex: Dragon Ball to Dragon Ball Z



...Since Naruto is only 15/16 in the Current arc of the manga... I'm more proned to agree that it'll cover his Teenage years...

[X-Ray]

...Not to bust your balls, because you are part of the Hype's Sannin Group here:
It's more the Extraction of the 2 Tails From Yugito. The 2 tails is Nibi. Nibib is just the actual name. Yugito is the Jinchuriki that housed Nibib (Two tails).


But just the same... :p

Yah that's what I meant ... the extraction of Nibi.

But can you blame me. We haven't seen this chick in a while. Now she pops up all the sudden as a corpse. :(

[X-Ray]

It's official. The fillers will end in spring 2007. In Japan, spring starts in Feburary. So it's 3-4 months away. That's like 12 episodes, give or take. The series will also be going by another name. Naruto: Shippuu-den/Naruto: Hurricane Chronicles. Read about it here (http://forums.narutofan.com/showthread.php?t=157592).


Well we now have a date ... Thursday, Feburary 15th of 2007.

Link (http://forums.narutofan.com/showthread.php?t=158110)

[oakzap425]

...I am soooooooo excited...

[The Comic Man]

Tonight's ep rocked!!!

[Gotenks]

^And very very old.

[oakzap425]

I don't think that his father would ever be able to be sealed away forever. For Sasuke to get his mangekyou he would have to kill Naruto. Unless he gets it in an unexplained way like Kakashi:ninja: I can't see the leader of akatsuki or itachi wanting to seal him anyway.


...Can you start quoting when you answer...


I"m starting to get really confused now.


Who's father are we talking about?

[Sloth7d]

Hm.... I just read chapters 239-332 this morning(got tired of the fillers).... does anyone else wish Yugito had done more in the story before her death. She seemed like she would have been an interesting character.

[X-Ray]

...Can you start quoting when you answer...


I"m starting to get really confused now.


Who's father are we talking about?

I think he's talking about this link I put up. It's a nice theory posted up at narutofan.com (http://forums.narutofan.com/showthread.php?t=106576)

Hm.... I just read chapters 239-332 this morning(got tired of the fillers).... does anyone else wish Yugito had done more in the story before her death. She seemed like she would have been an interesting character.

I wished we saw more of her fight between Hidan & Kakuzu. :csad:

R.I.P Yugito :csad:

[oakzap425]

....Naruto's on the way. There's no way they'll intro her with out explaination, considering they've gotten like, 2 other jinchuuriki extractions around the same time.


Naruto will pwn and she'll be revived or still be alive enough for history ala Gaara-sama.

[Sloth7d]

Hopefully so. But I do wonder how they'll revive her. It seems like they used that plotdevice up already.

[oakzap425]

....There is always an abundance of Plot device's hidden. You just have to find the chests...

[Sloth7d]

I just don't want death to mean nothing in this anime. I love dragonball, but the whole death=not permanent thing became a little annoying. I still love it though, but I don't want Naruto to follow in its path. And seeing as the creator of Naruto idolised AT and the dragonball series, I can see that as a possibility of the shows path.

[oakzap425]

...They Just Killed Asuma...


I don't think Kishimoto really takes death lightly... but is rather picky in who he kills off.


Mind you, we didn't get to learn alot about Asuma before his death, but still ia very bad ass and likable character to kick the bucket.

I'm more concerned about this little "King " issue that's been laid upon for Shikamaru. Any thoughts on who the king could be?

[Dorian Gray]

Asuma? Too bad it wasn't Kakashi....

[Corinthian™]

Asuma? Too bad it wasn't Kakashi....
SHUT YOUR MOUTH:cmad:

Kakashi's the 6th Hokage!!!

[Dorian Gray]

SHUT YOUR MOUTH:cmad:

Kakashi's the 6th Hokage!!!

lol..:D
I just find Kakashi to be a hypocrite in many ways, Epsecially at the start of the seires.

For example, It was ok to teach Sasuke Chidori but it wasn't ok for Jiraiya to teach Naruto the Rasengan....and don't get me started on what he said to Gai about teaching Rock Lee how to open the gate.

.....It sort to like, he only beleives that "genius types"(like himself) should be able to learn special/powerful jutsus and everyone else shouldn't.

[Corinthian™]

lol..:D
I just find Kakashi to be a hypocrite in many ways, Epsecially at the start of the seires.

For example, It was ok to teach Sasuke Chidori but it wasn't ok for Jiraiya to teach Naruto the Rasengan....and don't get me started on what he said to Gai about teaching Rock Lee how to open the gate.

.....It sort to like, he only beleives that "genius types"(like himself) should be able to learn special/powerful jutsus and everyone else shouldn't.
Or he just knew that the Rasengan is more dangerous than the Chidori and has a higher chance of killing someone than the chidori if you consider the chakra levels.. Sasuke only can do two Chidoris in a day and can do so much damage while the Rasengan can be done pretty much a lot of times with less chakra and can cause much more damage... And the gates unleashes a lot of chakra and can probably kill the user more easily than the Chidori

[X-Ray]

Hopefully so. But I do wonder how they'll revive her. It seems like they used that plotdevice up already.

There's a theory out there on how one of the tails demon has the power to raise the dead. I forget which exactly but hope it wasn't the 2 tails demon, Nibi. Because that would make a hard story to sell. Especially since it was recently extracted and tossed into that 9 eye statue. Which now has 6 pupils.

I just don't want death to mean nothing in this anime. I love dragonball, but the whole death=not permanent thing became a little annoying. I still love it though, but I don't want Naruto to follow in its path. And seeing as the creator of Naruto idolised AT and the dragonball series, I can see that as a possibility of the shows path.

They'll never ... NEVER ... reach that point.

[Lucy in the sky]

I wonder if Sasuke will have some fire/lightning combination jutsu (thinking fireball pikachu combination):o . i have to agree with Dorian on Kakashi being hypocritical. Now i'm just hoping there is another story on how Kakashi had his third (not sure what to call it) tomoe develop. :woot:

[Sloth7d]

There's a theory out there on how one of the tails demon has the power to raise the dead. I forget which exactly but hope it wasn't the 2 tails demon, Nibi. Because that would make a hard story to sell. Especially since it was recently extracted and tossed into that 9 eye statue. Which now has 6 pupils.

Well, in japanese legend that Naruto is basing its tailed beast off, it WAS the two tailed cat that raised the dead. But I think the author will slightly change some of the tailed beast powers so the story won't be so predictable.

[Sloth7d]

I'm more concerned about this little "King " issue that's been laid upon for Shikamaru. Any thoughts on who the king could be?
I think Asuma probably told him something like, "the king are those who you wish to protect the most... or something like that."

[Colossal Spoons]

I wonder if Sasuke will have some fire/lightning combination jutsu (thinking fireball pikachu combination):o . i have to agree with Dorian on Kakashi being hypocritical. Now i'm just hoping there is another story on how Kakashi had his third (not sure what to call it) tomoe develop. :woot:

Mangekyou?

[Sloth7d]

Now that I think about it, Kakashi was being a hypocrite, big time.

[Gotenks]

Maybe Kakashi thought Sasuke was a little more mature then Naruto and Lee.

[Gotenks]

Edit.

[Lucy in the sky]

Mangekyou?

That and he started with just two dots or whatever they are called. Then how he got 3, time skip then the mangekyou. I think Kakashi taught him the chidori because he thought that he would use it to protect the village and he sees himself in Sasuke. Or maybe it is a nongenius discrimination by him for some unexplained reason.:huh:

[oakzap425]

I wonder if Sasuke will have some fire/lightning combination jutsu (thinking fireball pikachu combination):o . i have to agree with Dorian on Kakashi being hypocritical. Now i'm just hoping there is another story on how Kakashi had his third (not sure what to call it) tomoe develop. :woot:



...Kakashi has had all three Tomoe since the beginning of the Series.

[Sloth7d]

Maybe Kakashi thought Sasuke was a little more mature then Naruto and Lee.
Probably. He's calm and lax, while those two are hyper and rash. Still, with Sasukes whole vengance angle, he couldn't have expected Sasuke to use it all for good.

[oakzap425]

...Kakashi is not a hypocrite.


Jiraiya initially taught Naruto Rasengan as a chakra control practice. Naruto basically begged Jiraiya to learn a new skill, but given Naruto's faulty chakra control, it would be hard to teach him, anyways.


I think that is the reason why Kakashi never taught Naruto chidori. It takes too much chakra control.

[Sloth7d]

...Kakashi is not a hypocrite.


So scolding someone for teaching a dangerous jutsu isn't hypocritical, even though you've done the same.

[oakzap425]

...You seriously think Chidori is a Dangerous jutsu? :confused:

[Sloth7d]

...You seriously think Chidori is a Dangerous jutsu? :confused:
atleast as dangerous as the rasengan. Its stated to be able to slice through anything, and is a jutsu Kakashi only uses in a serious situation. Which is reason why he scolded Sasuke for using it against Naruto, because of risk that'd it kill him. Also, Jiraiya considered it dangerous.

[oakzap425]

...But I don't think it's dangerous enough, against others. The only think I can see it being dangerous is using it past it's two uses, which is supposedly impossible.


But opening the gates is a lose lose against ones's self, which is why I think the Gates are more dangerous than the Chidori or Rasengan,

[Sloth7d]

...But I don't think it's dangerous enough, against others. The only think I can see it being dangerous is using it past it's two uses, which is supposedly impossible.


But opening the gates is a lose lose against ones's self, which is why I think the Gates are more dangerous than the Chidori or Rasengan,
Yeah. The gates I agree are far more dangerous. But as for the rasengan, like I said I can't really see how the chidori can be considered less dangerous. Especially sense the Chidori cuts while the rasengan is like an strong impact.

[Colossal Spoons]

...You seriously think Chidori is a Dangerous jutsu? :confused:

Haku does :o

[Lucy in the sky]

...Kakashi has had all three Tomoe since the beginning of the Series.

i'm saying will they explain that? Sasuke had to fight Naruto to get his, so i'm wondering what Kakashi fought that would make it necessary for 3.

As for dangers jutsus Chouji's can lead to high cholesterol and diabetes!:oldrazz:

[Gotenks]

Lucy, you do know where Kakashi got his Sharingan from......right?

[Colossal Spoons]

I miss Obito :(

[Lucy in the sky]

Lucy, you do know where Kakashi got his Sharingan from......right?

He got his left eye from Obito i know that from Kakashi Gaiden. What i'm trying to say is "Since the sharingan starts out with 2 tomoe. When did he develop the third one is what i was wondering. No 1 ever understands me! Damn English as my second languagE!:csad:

[Colossal Spoons]

What's your first?

[Gotenks]

He got his left eye from Obito i know that from Kakashi Gaiden. What i'm trying to say is "Since the sharingan starts out with 2 tomoe. When did he develop the third one is what i was wondering. No 1 ever understands me! Damn English as my second languagE!:csad:

I was just wondering.

[X-Ray]

He got his left eye from Obito i know that from Kakashi Gaiden. What i'm trying to say is "Since the sharingan starts out with 2 tomoe. When did he develop the third one is what i was wondering. No 1 ever understands me! Damn English as my second languagE!:csad:

Actually I understood what you were saying :huh: And you do have a good point. I mean how exactly did Kakashi achieve the 3rd "tomoe" :huh: You can check narutofan.com for theories behind that.

[Corinthian™]

Yeah. The gates I agree are far more dangerous. But as for the rasengan, like I said I can't really see how the chidori can be considered less dangerous. Especially sense the Chidori cuts while the rasengan is like an strong impact.
Uhm, Rasengan grinds through everything pretty much destroying from the inside out... Chidori's a really sharp blade while Rasengan is more of a bomb

[Sloth7d]

Uhm, Rasengan grinds through everything pretty much destroying from the inside out... Chidori's a really sharp blade while Rasengan is more of a bomb
But look at it this way.
Chidori=can cut through anything
Rasengan=at high levels can cause big explosions.

Both moves are really dangerous, and could kill someone easily. Which is why Kakashi scolded Sasuke and Jaraiya, because neither move should be used on friends.

[Lucy in the sky]

What's your first?

spanish I used it most till about 9 and then moved to Wisconsin so i started only speaking english when i was about 12. Now I can hardly remeber any of it! I plan to learn Mandarin chinese:yay:

As for the rasengan and chidori thing argument on danger.

It reminds me of Haku getting stabbed and the episode where Naruto used Rasengan repeatedly to power their boat to catch up and stop a mail carrier deliving the Icha Icha paradise to some horny village leader. The fact that rasengan didn't kill Kabuto makes me think it isn't hardcore, even though it is more hardcore then chidori.:huh:

[Colossal Spoons]

^Exactly. So far the death toll is Chidori 1 Rasengan 0

[Lucy in the sky]

I heard somewhere that in one of the films which i don't know hwere to find please link! THat naruto "rasenganed" and killed someone. if you count filler rasengan has killed someone but then he was brought back to life shortly thereafter so does that even count1?

[Colossal Spoons]

Anime after the Rescue Sasuke arc doesn't exist to me. I can't see Naruto killing anybody though.

[oakzap425]

He got his left eye from Obito i know that from Kakashi Gaiden. What i'm trying to say is "Since the sharingan starts out with 2 tomoe. When did he develop the third one is what i was wondering. No 1 ever understands me! Damn English as my second languagE!:csad:



...Sharingan does not start out with two tomoe.

[oakzap425]

I heard somewhere that in one of the films which i don't know hwere to find please link! THat naruto "rasenganed" and killed someone. if you count filler rasengan has killed someone but then he was brought back to life shortly thereafter so does that even count1?



...It's the second movie.

[Corinthian™]

spanish I used it most till about 9 and then moved to Wisconsin so i started only speaking english when i was about 12. Now I can hardly remeber any of it! I plan to learn Mandarin chinese:yay:

As for the rasengan and chidori thing argument on danger.

It reminds me of Haku getting stabbed and the episode where Naruto used Rasengan repeatedly to power their boat to catch up and stop a mail carrier deliving the Icha Icha paradise to some horny village leader. The fact that rasengan didn't kill Kabuto makes me think it isn't hardcore, even though it is more hardcore then chidori.:huh:
yeah, but Kabuto has a healing ability... he can put up with Logan with his Healing factor... so Kabuto should've died but didn't because he managed to heal himself and besides.. the attack was in his stomach.. he would've died out of bleeding....

[Colossal Spoons]

Wow, I didn't know Kabuto had an active healing ability.

[Lucy in the sky]

...Sharingan does not start out with two tomoe.

Sasuke had two in one and one in the other. Maybe because he is so weak though:huh: :oldrazz:

How many tomoe do they start out with?

:ninja: I'll stick to my mokuton roots:csad:

[Corinthian™]

Sasuke had two in one and one in the other. Maybe because he is so weak though:huh: :oldrazz:

How many tomoe do they start out with?

:ninja: I'll stick to my mokuton roots:csad:
I think it depends on the person...

[Dorian Gray]

Anime after the Rescue Sasuke arc doesn't exist to me. I can't see Naruto killing anybody though.


Funny because thats were "Naruto" begins(at least for me) everything else up untill the end of the Sasuke Retreivial Arc has basicly been about Sasuke. I think the Find Tsunade Arc was the first time I saw it actually be about Naruto.

[Dorian Gray]

...Kakashi is not a hypocrite.




Then why did Kakashi shut his mouth when Jiraiya called him on his hypocritical postion about the jutsus?:huh:

[X-Ray]

A short summary for 333 was leaked and translated ...

シカマルが自らの影をのばし、刺さったクナイへとつなげる
Shikamaru lengthens his own shadow and connects it to the kunai in the ground.
Note: I'm assuming "kunai" refers to the chakra blades.
これで二人を影真似で動かせるようになる。
With this, he's able to move the two with Kagemane.
飛段を動かし角都を狙うが、角都は右腕を地面に逃がしており
Using Hidan, he attacks Kakuzu. But Kakuzu had released his right arm to the ground and
影真似から脱出する。
Escapes from the Kagemane.
なおも飛段をつかって角都を攻めるシカマル。
Shikamaru continues to use Hidan to attack Kakuzu.
角都はチョージの攻撃を受けるが体を硬化してこれを防ぐ
Kakuzu receives Chouji's attack too, but hardens his body for protection.
それが角都の能力でいわく「オレにはどんな物理攻撃も通じない」
This is Kakuzu's power. "No physical attack works against me."

しかし、その直後背後から雷切でカカシが角都の心臓を貫く！
However, immediately after, Kakashi stabs Kakuzu through the heart with Raikiri.

「馬鹿な・・気配もなくこのオレの背後から・・」
"Can't be... From behind me without even a presence..."
「オレの印のスピードを見切っただと・・それにこれほどの雷遁を」
"You managed to see through the speed of my "in"... And to create a Raiton (Lightning) of this degree..."
「そうか！お前が・・」
"So that's it! You're..."

カカシのアップで終わり
Ends with an up of Kakashi

上の補足
Supplement to above
場面変わって、ヤマトとナルトの修行風景
Secne changes, Yamato and Naurto training.
五大性質変化の優劣についてヤマトが説明する
Yamato explains about the measurements (greater/less) of the five major elemental manipulations.
水→火→風→雷→土→水　とういうように優劣がある
The measurements are Water->Fire->Wind->Lightning->Earth->Water
角都の硬化の術は結んだ印から土遁とカカシが見破る
Kakashi saw through Kakuzu's hardening jutsu to be Doton (Earth) from the "in" made.
（雷→土で）
(With Lightning->Earth)

「”土”は”雷”に弱い。相性が悪かったな。終わりだ」
"'Earth' is weak against 'Lightning.' You got unlucky in your opponent. It's the end."

It's posted at mangahelpers by a reliable source over there. I just find it hard to believe that the fight/battle would end so quickly. Then again Kakuzu probably has something up his sleeves.

[oakzap425]

Hidan= Pwnd.

[Twitch]

Its really Kakashi Not Naruto Damn :csad:

[Lucy in the sky]

Awesome i was hoping someone else would get killed by Raikiri after that one guy in the filler:woot: That fight was even shorter but it had kakashi killing casually!:ninja:

[X-Ray]

Chapter 333 Online :word: (http://www.toughisntenough.com/)

[Colossal Spoons]

Awesome i was hoping someone else would get killed by Raikiri after that one guy in the filler:woot: That fight was even shorter but it had kakashi killing casually!:ninja:

WOW, Kakashi was awesome. So much for the Chidori not being dangerous.

[Jplaya2023]

kazou isnt dead it was a bushin

[Colossal Spoons]

Nah, that sucka better be dead.

[Jplaya2023]

Nah, that sucka better be dead.

he's a medic nin and was still talking after chidori through the heart

[hulkamania]

Okay, so Naruto will do some tye of monsoon hurricane tornado foolishness that destroys everything in its path (and he isn't even finished yet!). And we've got an all-star fight going on in the forest. Cool!

[X-Ray]

I think Kakuzu still has some tricks up his sleeve. His death and the battle went by so quickly if it's really the end. But man, that pic of his (Kakashi) fist through Kakuzu's chest is just sick :cool:

As for Naruto's new jutsu. It's almost complete. The half-ass version did some serious damage though. Can you imagine how big the crater would be if it were a complete jutsu :wow:

[Sloth7d]

I still don't see how the newly formed rasengan will help Naruto. Based off the previous encounter with Sasuke his physical abilities are far too lacking for one jutsu to matter. Whats the point if Sasuke could easily dodge or encompasitate him before he uses it. And Sasuke also can surpress the 9 tailed foxes chakra. I think Naruto is going to go through more training exercises before he finally encounters Sasuke again.

[Corinthian™]

edit: nevermind

[Sloth7d]

Aw, man I just watched 333 today, and....
Whats up with all this elemental crap? This isn't pokemon for heavens sake. They just introduced it and already its annoying. Also, you'd think water would be weak to lightning,but meh.

[Lucy in the sky]

How is everyone performing hand seals so fast!? I tried to watch one and have declared it impossible without pausing or a sharingan!

[Corinthian™]

How is everyone performing hand seals so fast!? I tried to watch one and have declared it impossible without pausing or a sharingan!
They are friggin ninjas

And I think that Naruto's on Sasuke's level regardless of technique... Sure, Sasuke's fast, but Naruto's a friggen trainload of Chakra and has some interesting abilities... I mean, his Bushin-ken(this is how I call NAruto's technique, using clones in order to fight) is pretty awesome and he has both the Chakra and the Stamina to put up with Sasuke... Sasuke got the Sharingan, but still, I doubt Sasuke can surprass Kakashi as he is right now and Naruto can put up with Kakashi so I think they are on the same level

[Twitch]

nevermind

kthxbye

[Sloth7d]

How is everyone performing hand seals so fast!? I tried to watch one and have declared it impossible without pausing or a sharingan!
You don't need the sharigan to be fast.
Look at Lee and Haku and others.

[Colossal Spoons]

And I think that Naruto's on Sasuke's level regardless of technique... Sure, Sasuke's fast, but Naruto's a friggen trainload of Chakra and has some interesting abilities... I mean, his Bushin-ken(this is how I call NAruto's technique, using clones in order to fight) is pretty awesome and he has both the Chakra and the Stamina to put up with Sasuke... Sasuke got the Sharingan, but still, I doubt Sasuke can surprass Kakashi as he is right now and Naruto can put up with Kakashi so I think they are on the same level

True, Naruto's abilites are interesting but he needs to get within range to use his jutsus. Sasuke was all over Naruto with that sword when they met up before Naruto even knew what was going on. Fact is; Naruto's taijutsu needs some MAJOR improvement as well as his movement speed.

[Corinthian™]

True, Naruto's abilites are interesting but he needs to get within range to use his jutsus. Sasuke was all over Naruto with that sword when they met up before Naruto even knew what was going on. Fact is; Naruto's taijutsu needs some MAJOR improvement as well as his movement speed.
I believe that Naruto was just shocked about Sasuke as he is. While fast I don't think that he is not used to that speed. He saw Lee and Sasuke when he was two years younger, do you really think that he's just slow? Remember when they fought at the Valley of the end? Naruto was faster than Sasuke and right now I think they may be in par in fighting abilities.

Maybe Sasuke's more on the quick assassination type of thing, but Naruto's still a truckload of Chakra and Stamina and I think he'll be able to survive some deadly jutsus and besides, Naruto is also all over the place! Remember when they fought Deidara? He was using clones here and there and he could practically fly with the clones. Naruto has imagination and is not as dumb as many believe...

There's also the fact that Jiraya almost died fighting Naruto.... C'mon, do you think that Sasuke's stronger than Orochimaru or Jiraya as he is right now?

[Colossal Spoons]

There's also the fact that Jiraya almost died fighting Naruto.... C'mon, do you think that Sasuke's stronger than Orochimaru or Jiraya as he is right now?

Jiraiya almost died "training" Naruto. I don't believe he was trying too hard too fight back or else I'm sure Naruto would be dead. I dunno, I think the "blundering, reckless ninja" role they've had Naruto play for soo long has hurt his character in my eyes. I don't consider him competent enough to beat Sasuke at their current levels.

[oakzap425]

Jiraiya almost died "training" Naruto. I don't believe he was trying too hard too fight back or else I'm sure Naruto would be dead. I dunno, I think the "blundering, reckless ninja" role they've had Naruto play for soo long has hurt his character in my eyes. I don't consider him competent enough to beat Sasuke at their current levels.



Jiraiya.... Tailed Naruto...


I'm thinking Ero-Sennin had no chance. I don't think he's reckless... but he does use his emotions in battle...

And he will be competant to be Sasuke. You'll all be on Naruto's Nuts soon enough.

[Colossal Spoons]

As for Jiraiya standing no chance against a tailed Naruto; Orochimaru held his own against tailed-Naruto pretty well and I think Jiraiya, Tsunade, and Oro are on the same level.

I don't think Naruto really is reckless but the series made him out to be a joke in the beginning you know? Everybody else could always do things better than him. The fight with Haku really hurt his image for me when Sasuke basically told him how useless he was right before he "died" to save him.

BTW, I'm not a fairweather Naruto watcher. I'm "THE" Neji fanboy around these parts and yeah, other people do ridiculously cool stuff but I still say Byukagan > everything. :D

[Sloth7d]

I believe that Naruto was just shocked about Sasuke as he is. While fast I don't think that he is not used to that speed. He saw Lee and Sasuke when he was two years younger, do you really think that he's just slow? Remember when they fought at the Valley of the end? Naruto was faster than Sasuke and right now I think they may be in par in fighting abilities.

Maybe Sasuke's more on the quick assassination type of thing, but Naruto's still a truckload of Chakra and Stamina and I think he'll be able to survive some deadly jutsus and besides, Naruto is also all over the place! Remember when they fought Deidara? He was using clones here and there and he could practically fly with the clones. Naruto has imagination and is not as dumb as many believe...

There's also the fact that Jiraya almost died fighting Naruto.... C'mon, do you think that Sasuke's stronger than Orochimaru or Jiraya as he is right now?
But all those occasions were thanks to the foxes charkra. Something Sasuke can surpress. If he intends to fight him, he'll need to increase his base abilities quite a bit.

[Sloth7d]

Jiraiya almost died "training" Naruto. I don't believe he was trying too hard too fight back or else I'm sure Naruto would be dead. I dunno, I think the "blundering, reckless ninja" role they've had Naruto play for soo long has hurt his character in my eyes. I don't consider him competent enough to beat Sasuke at their current levels.
Well, I don't agree with the rest of this, but yeah, at their current levels(new version of rasengan or not) Naruto is outclassed.

[Lucy in the sky]

BTW, I'm not a fairweather Naruto watcher. I'm "THE" Neji fanboy around these parts and yeah, other people do ridiculously cool stuff but I still say Byukagan > everything. :D[/quote]

Same here he only lost because Naruto is the main character. Realistically though this is a kids show. Neji would have just stabbed Naruto with a Kunai and once the fox started kicking in he would just keep stabbing him til he died or the fight was intervened. He wouldn't be doing any divinity at all, same for Hinata. This is assuming he really really didn't like the other family of hyuuga or naruto for just believing it to everything.

I have to like sharingan more solely because of dojutsuness:ninja: but since sasuke has it that makes it really lame:csad:

[Sloth7d]

Same here he only lost because Naruto is the main character. Realistically though this is a kids show. Neji would have just stabbed Naruto with a Kunai and once the fox started kicking in he would just keep stabbing him til he died or the fight was intervened. He wouldn't be doing any divinity at all, same for Hinata. This is assuming he really really didn't like the other family of hyuuga or naruto for just believing it to everything.

I have to like sharingan more solely because of dojutsuness:ninja: but since sasuke has it that makes it really lame:csad:
Naruto would have blocked a mere kunai. Realistically, Naruto would have just used the foxes power from the beggining and the match would have been over.

[Colossal Spoons]

How? Neji would cut off Naruto's chakra; rendering his neverending amount due to Kyuubi, useless.

[Jplaya2023]

How? Neji would cut off Naruto's chakra; rendering his neverending amount due to Kyuubi, useless.

neiji did that in the exams and naruto still used kyubbi chakra

[CBG]

You can seal the Kyuubi Charka with the 5 Seal, like Orochimaru did.

Remember, Jiraiya had to undo the seal before Naruto can properly water-walk.

[Gotenks]

neiji did that in the exams and naruto still used kyubbi chakra

He cut off his regular chakra.
Which made him use his fox chakra. I dont think he did it a second time after the power up.

[Jplaya2023]

You can seal the Kyuubi Charka with the 5 Seal, like Orochimaru did.

Remember, Jiraiya had to undo the seal before Naruto can properly water-walk.


neiji doesnt know such seals so he'll never cut of kyubbi chakra

[oakzap425]

BTW, I'm not a fairweather Naruto watcher. I'm "THE" Neji fanboy around these parts and yeah, other people do ridiculously cool stuff but I still say Byukagan > everything. :D

Same here he only lost because Naruto is the main character. Realistically though this is a kids show. Neji would have just stabbed Naruto with a Kunai and once the fox started kicking in he would just keep stabbing him til he died or the fight was intervened. He wouldn't be doing any divinity at all, same for Hinata. This is assuming he really really didn't like the other family of hyuuga or naruto for just believing it to everything.

I have to like sharingan more solely because of dojutsuness:ninja: but since sasuke has it that makes it really lame:csad:



...YOu have no clue what you're talking about. Please Stop.

[CBG]

neiji doesnt know such seals so he'll never cut of kyubbi chakra

Understandable. But to say never, well, that's assuming he doesn't learn it.

As of now, judging from what's seen so far after the time skip, maybe he learned it, maybe not. Though, it's unlikely for Neji to learn such a technique in sealing chakra when he has his Jyuuken.

[oakzap425]

Yes it is possible for the Kyuubi chakra to be blocked. By a 14 year old? No. You have to be a seal's master to tamper with that. Yondaime was known to be a great seal master, so the Kyuubi seal was rather complex. The only other person who realyl has a clue about it is Jiraiya.

Neji would not be able to do anything with Naruto in Kyuubi Form. Sasuke could barely do anything with him in 1 tail mode. Jiraiya even had problems.

To think that Neji, because of his abilities to cut off chakra points, would be able to go up against Naruto with Kyuubi chakra, is not only absurd, but proves that some of you aren't that far ahead in the Anime or the manga, for that matter.


Start researching please, before you start making theories and assumptions.

[CBG]

This is a Neji vs. Tailed Naruto portion of the thread?

[oakzap425]

...What's the thread title?

[Jplaya2023]

Understandable. But to say never, well, that's assuming he doesn't learn it.

As of now, judging from what's seen so far after the time skip, maybe he learned it, maybe not. Though, it's unlikely for Neji to learn such a technique in sealing chakra when he has his Jyuuken.

Only like 3 people alive know it. Oro, Jirayri and Kakashi its not a high % that they would teach that to neiji

[Jplaya2023]

This is a Neji vs. Tailed Naruto portion of the thread?

Nah this is just a big naruto thread where you discuss everything pertaining to the series. Mostly the manga chapters

[Gotenks]

...What's the thread title?

Um.... Naruto.....can I have a Doughnut now?

[CBG]

Only like 3 people alive know it. Oro, Jirayri and Kakashi its not a high % that they would teach that to neiji

Nah this is just a big naruto thread where you discuss everything pertaining to the series. Mostly the manga chapters

Ah.

In that case, who thinks Naruto will run over the 500 chapter mark?

[FadingCB]

Lol, I honestly didn't know there was an anime/manga section on these boards. I only found the top 5 anime post by a link in another post in the comics section. So sorry if this has been brought up, but I heard the filler is finally confirmed as coming to an end in February, can anyone confirm that.

Also just got done watching 211, and can say I'll be very glad when the anime gets back on track of the Manga. Aside from having no real lasting character development aside from the possible addition of Hinata's water deal, the fillers just don't go anywhere and are semi predictable. Like second I saw that guy helping the kid in the fire, I knew where the rest of this current arc was going.

May sound fanboyish lol, but I think the guys doing the Naruto anime could have learned from the guys doing the Bleach anime on how to do the fillers. The Bleach Bounto arc was good enough filler that I wouldn't have known it was filler unless I had read that online.

[oakzap425]

Um.... Naruto.....can I have a Doughnut now?



...Only if I get to spank you. :heart:

[oakzap425]

Lol, I honestly didn't know there was an anime/manga section on these boards. I only found the top 5 anime post by a link in another post in the comics section. So sorry if this has been brought up, but I heard the filler is finally confirmed as coming to an end in February, can anyone confirm that.

Also just got done watching 211, and can say I'll be very glad when the anime gets back on track of the Manga. Aside from having no real lasting character development aside from the possible addition of Hinata's water deal, the fillers just don't go anywhere and are semi predictable. Like second I saw that guy helping the kid in the fire, I knew where the rest of this current arc was going.

May sound fanboyish lol, but I think the guys doing the Naruto anime could have learned from the guys doing the Bleach anime on how to do the fillers. The Bleach Bounto arc was good enough filler that I wouldn't have known it was filler unless I had read that online.


Or if you'd read the manga. And the storyline for the Bleach filler was very creative. The art, is a different matter.

Yes, new episodes of the Naruto anime, now titled "Naruto: Hurricane Chronicles" shall start airing in February.

[FadingCB]

Or if you'd read the manga. And the storyline for the Bleach filler was very creative. The art, is a different matter.

Yes, new episodes of the Naruto anime, now titled "Naruto: Hurricane Chronicles" shall start airing in February.

Well, I know I could read the manga, and know where to get it from, but I just can't pull myself to. I've read many manga's and have np with that part. I think it's just that with some series I prefer the anime and with others manga. With Naruto I've just gotten used to the anime, and have watched every episode so far, to switch to the manga now would be like spoiling the anime to me. I do know some of what happens in the manga, but have been trying to avoid it the best I can atm. With Bleach I actually read the manga form first which is what got me into the anime, but haven't read the manga form of it since.

[Colossal Spoons]

neiji did that in the exams and naruto still used kyubbi chakra

And Neji hasn't just been sitting around watching TV since then. We've only seen him do one "new" thing since the time skip.

neiji doesnt know such seals so he'll never cut of kyubbi chakra

Like I said before; we don't know what Neji, Kiba, or Tenten know now.

...YOu have no clue what you're talking about. Please Stop.

That top par was a quote from me. I was responding to your comment about "all of us being on Naruto's balls soon". :up:

[Jplaya2023]

And Neji hasn't just been sitting around watching TV since then. We've only seen him do one "new" thing since the time skip.



understandable but his sensai isnt kakashi jirayri or oro so the chances of him knowing a high jounin kage level seal is 1%

Like I said before; we don't know what Neji, Kiba, or Tenten know now.

nothing about sealing naruto's chakra

[Colossal Spoons]

To think that Neji, because of his abilities to cut off chakra points, would be able to go up against Naruto with Kyuubi chakra, is not only absurd, but proves that some of you aren't that far ahead in the Anime or the manga, for that matter.

Start researching please, before you start making theories and assumptions.

Assuming you're all caught up on the anime, I've read just as much as you have. I don't see a problem with Neji cutting off the Kyuubi chakra as that's what Neji does. Yeah, I understand it's A LOT of chakra and a very powerful one. I'm just not impressed with Tailed-Naruto under 4 tails.

[Colossal Spoons]

As for Neji not learning a high level sealing jutsu because his sensei isn't one of those 3 men; I think we've gotten past the point in the anime where ONLY your sensei can teach you things. Naruto's gotten tips and trained by people other than Kakashi and Jiraiya so I'd like to think that you can learn from any ninja in the village willing to teach you.

[Jplaya2023]

Assuming you're all caught up on the anime, I've read just as much as you have. I don't see a problem with Neji cutting off the Kyuubi chakra as that's what Neji does. Yeah, I understand it's A LOT of chakra and a very powerful one. I'm just not impressed with Tailed-Naruto under 4 tails.

but its a different type of chakra and its been shown it doesnt have to come out of chakra points on his body its fueled by a demon on the inside

[FadingCB]

One question about what you guys are talking about. When Neiji cut off Naruto's chakra points, weren't they just that, cut off? Then the Fox's power when let loose healed them and overpowered that. It could be said that the Fox's healing powers on Naruto, and sheer amount can't be blocked off, which is why his body began to be damaged from that chakra during his fight with Sasuke. I have a feeling that chakra's too much to be fully contained by Naruto's body, which would also explain why he said early on that he's always healed fast (because the 9 tails power was slowly mixing into him even if it was sealed).

Edit - Because if Neiji blocked off his chakra ports, then the 9 tails chakra shouldn't have got out as there was nothing to get out from. I don't think Neiji blocked off Naruto's chakra only, but where chakra comes out of the body.

[Colossal Spoons]

but its a different type of chakra and its been shown it doesnt have to come out of chakra points on his body its fueled by a demon on the inside

The Kyuubi doesn't just ignore all the chakra rules of the anime lol. It's gotta come out of the chakra points; regardless of what fuels it.

Regardless, I agree that the chance for Neji to defeat a tailed Naruto is VERY slim but to say that it's "absurd" or impossible would require one to severely underestimate Neji. Especially since the kids have gotten stronger over the skip, presumably.

[Colossal Spoons]

One question about what you guys are talking about. When Neiji cut off Naruto's chakra points, weren't they just that, cut off? Then the Fox's power when let loose healed them and overpowered that. It could be said that the Fox's healing powers on Naruto, and sheer amount can't be blocked off, which is why his body began to be damaged from that chakra during his fight with Sasuke. I have a feeling that chakra's too much to be fully contained by Naruto's body, which would also explain why he said early on that he's always healed fast (because the 9 tails power was slowly mixing into him even if it was sealed).

Edit - Because if Neiji blocked off his chakra ports, then the 9 tails chakra shouldn't have got out as there was nothing to get out from. I don't think Neiji blocked off Naruto's chakra only, but where chakra comes out of the body.

I can agree with this. The Kyuubi chakra would have had to "re-open" the chakra points. I think my point got turned into "Neji would annihilate Tailed-Naruto". There would be no annihilation. Simply an underdog Neji trying ever friggin jutsu he knows against a crazy beast.

[FadingCB]

I can agree with this. The Kyuubi chakra would have had to "re-open" the chakra points. I think my point got turned into "Neji would annihilate Tailed-Naruto". There would be no annihilation. Simply an underdog Neji trying ever friggin jutsu he knows against a crazy beast.

Ah, well I haven't read too many pages back lol, so jumped in late. Wasn't really arguing against you, just jumped in the conversation late.

I just thought of it like having a car with normal fuel (naruto's chakra). Someone then blocks off your exhaust with sugar or a potatoe (neiji's move). The exhaust can't get out under it's own power. Then you change the fuel to some crazy super charged up fuel that sends flames out the back like a small jet engine (made up, but so is Kyuubi chakra :) ), and it'll force it's way out the back even if it damages the exhaust opening itself in doing so. If that made any sense.

[Sloth7d]

The Kyuubi doesn't just ignore all the chakra rules of the anime lol. It's gotta come out of the chakra points; regardless of what fuels it.

It doesn't come out of the charkra poimts. It just fills them. It can't be cut off by nejis fighting style. Neji cut off Naruto points already before and didn't stop the foces charkra.

[Lucy in the sky]

...YOu have no clue what you're talking about. Please Stop.

I :heart: how saying something like that starts a nice conversation in the thread so i decided to do it:woot: If these wild assumptions i made weren't doing so well i would gladly stop:ninja:

[Lucy in the sky]

Can we argue now that rock lee with 8 gates open can still be beaten by a simple dojutsu?:oldrazz:

[Sloth7d]

Can we argue now that rock lee with 8 gates open can still be beaten by a simple dojutsu?:oldrazz:
huh?

[Lucy in the sky]

or genjetsu for that matter. I'll check back later for the answer.

dojutsu is eye type thingie?

Katon housenka no jutsu! Oh i just noticed that Naruto can beat Sasuke that makes me sad because i enjoyed seeing fireballs. I hate them both but sasuke is the lesser of 2 evils.

[Sloth7d]

or genjetsu for that matter. I'll check back later for the answer.

dojutsu is eye type thingie?

Katon housenka no jutsu! Oh i just noticed that Naruto can beat Sasuke that makes me sad because i enjoyed seeing fireballs. I hate them both but sasuke is the lesser of 2 evils.
What I meant is Rocklee can be beaten by alot of people. If he looks into someone like Itachis eye or ring carelessly he will lose. He's still no chump though, if not a little reckless.

[Gotenks]

...Only if I get to spank you. :heart:

Agreed......now....um about those doughnuts.

[oakzap425]

Well, I know I could read the manga, and know where to get it from, but I just can't pull myself to. I've read many manga's and have np with that part. I think it's just that with some series I prefer the anime and with others manga. With Naruto I've just gotten used to the anime, and have watched every episode so far, to switch to the manga now would be like spoiling the anime to me. I do know some of what happens in the manga, but have been trying to avoid it the best I can atm. With Bleach I actually read the manga form first which is what got me into the anime, but haven't read the manga form of it since.



YOu can't spoil yourself. It just gives the drive to see it animated. YOu don't get the same feel reading as you do watching.


And honestly, it's a plus to read the manga. You'd be surprised how much is left out, how much is canon in comparison.

Did you know that the Fight between Tenten and Temari during the chuunin exam didn't even happen in the manga? It cuts off to discussion between other characters during that fight. What you saw during the anime didn't even happen.

[oakzap425]

Assuming you're all caught up on the anime, I've read just as much as you have. I don't see a problem with Neji cutting off the Kyuubi chakra as that's what Neji does. Yeah, I understand it's A LOT of chakra and a very powerful one. I'm just not impressed with Tailed-Naruto under 4 tails.



...You see One-Tailed Naruto during the Battle at the Valley of the End. After that you see Four Tails. You don't even know what his power level is after that.

And sure Neji could block chakra. YOu assume Neji has the speed, Stamina, and power to beat a Tailed Naruto.

Highly unlikely.

[oakzap425]

Assuming you're all caught up on the anime, I've read just as much as you have. I don't see a problem with Neji cutting off the Kyuubi chakra as that's what Neji does. Yeah, I understand it's A LOT of chakra and a very powerful one. I'm just not impressed with Tailed-Naruto under 4 tails.





...You see One-Tailed Naruto during the Battle at the Valley of the End. After that you see Four Tails. You don't even know what his power level is in between the two.

And sure Neji could block chakra. YOu assume Neji has the speed, Stamina, and power to beat a Tailed Naruto.

Highly unlikely.

[oakzap425]

One question about what you guys are talking about. When Neiji cut off Naruto's chakra points, weren't they just that, cut off? Then the Fox's power when let loose healed them and overpowered that. It could be said that the Fox's healing powers on Naruto, and sheer amount can't be blocked off, which is why his body began to be damaged from that chakra during his fight with Sasuke. I have a feeling that chakra's too much to be fully contained by Naruto's body, which would also explain why he said early on that he's always healed fast (because the 9 tails power was slowly mixing into him even if it was sealed).

Edit - Because if Neiji blocked off his chakra ports, then the 9 tails chakra shouldn't have got out as there was nothing to get out from. I don't think Neiji blocked off Naruto's chakra only, but where chakra comes out of the body.


Blocking Tenketsu points, blocks the flow of the chakra. It can't be used. But because Naruto has a reserve that is provided by a supernatural force, it over powers jyuukan.

Now, Though Kyuubi is healing Naruto aat an acclerated rate, doesn't mean it's a good thing. Jiraiya has stated that once Naruto goes to a certain tail usage, 4, IU believe, he's basically shortening his lefe span.

Kyuubi chakra, I don't recall is merging with Naruto.

[oakzap425]

The Kyuubi doesn't just ignore all the chakra rules of the anime lol. It's gotta come out of the chakra points; regardless of what fuels it.

Regardless, I agree that the chance for Neji to defeat a tailed Naruto is VERY slim but to say that it's "absurd" or impossible would require one to severely underestimate Neji. Especially since the kids have gotten stronger over the skip, presumably.



And thus, you have proven our point.

[oakzap425]

Ah, well I haven't read too many pages back lol, so jumped in late. Wasn't really arguing against you, just jumped in the conversation late.

I just thought of it like having a car with normal fuel (naruto's chakra). Someone then blocks off your exhaust with sugar or a potatoe (neiji's move). The exhaust can't get out under it's own power. Then you change the fuel to some crazy super charged up fuel that sends flames out the back like a small jet engine (made up, but so is Kyuubi chakra :) ), and it'll force it's way out the back even if it damages the exhaust opening itself in doing so. If that made any sense.



Using that analogy, Naruto would be killing him self becuase he can't expell chakra, but he can't really gain more.

You put a potato or sugar in someones gas tank reaks havoc on the injection line.

That basically is the Kyuubi chakra flooding Naruto's chakra pathways, but has no way out. It's basically burn him from the inside out.

[oakzap425]

or genjetsu for that matter. I'll check back later for the answer.

dojutsu is eye type thingie?

Katon housenka no jutsu! Oh i just noticed that Naruto can beat Sasuke that makes me sad because i enjoyed seeing fireballs. I hate them both but sasuke is the lesser of 2 evils.



...Dojutsu is a familial Trait.

Byakuugan
Sharingan

[Colossal Spoons]

...You see One-Tailed Naruto during the Battle at the Valley of the End. After that you see Four Tails. You don't even know what his power level is after that.

And sure Neji could block chakra. YOu assume Neji has the speed, Stamina, and power to beat a Tailed Naruto.

Highly unlikely.

I meant I'm impressed with 4 and presumably the 5 after that.

[CBG]

Talk about multiple posting. . .

[oakzap425]

I meant I'm impressed with 4 and presumably the 5 after that.



:cmad:


Then say that next time, woman... :o

[oakzap425]

Talk about multiple posting. . .



That's becuase I comment as I read.

[CBG]

Well, you could just edit your first post and incorporate your answers. Or just make one big post answering everything.

[Colossal Spoons]

:cmad:


Then say that next time, woman... :o

I have man parts, thanks. :froth:

[oakzap425]

....No I don't think you understand...


I read a post, I decided then and there if I want to comment or not. I don't even glance ahead.



and don't you tell me how to post, rookie! :cmad: :o

[CBG]

I can understand that. But isn't multiple posting discouraged in this forum, correct me if I'm wrong?

[Sloth7d]

But she was responding to different comments.