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Iron Fist
10-15-2007, 08:57 PM
This link confirms the characters that are in the Naruto game.

http://xbox360.ign.com/articles/827/827134p1.html

TheVileOne
10-19-2007, 03:52 AM
I wonder when Shippuden will start in the US.

One thing I wonder, is if they will ever change the voice for Naruto as he gets older, or if it will always be Maile Flanagan in English.

Gary Glitter
10-19-2007, 02:48 PM
yeah...it would do greatly on the animation's "mood" shall i say? (its not scene....it something else...)

Dorian Gray
10-19-2007, 05:23 PM
I just watched episode 31. Have to say the entire episode accompanied by the muscial track made it very dramtic and quite sad.

Kankurou(sp?) still pisses me off (even in animated form) for what he said to Naruto about girls not wanting him.:cmad:

Sloth7d
10-19-2007, 08:59 PM
Chapter 375 is up--

It was pretty bad ass. Finally, we see how Jiraiya fights full throttle. It's too bad we're mainly seeing summons. I was hoping it'd be less godzilla sized monsters determining the fight. And it looks like Pain's summon can morph or did I mis interprit that with him rapidly switching summons? Can't wait for the next chapter.

Iron Fist
10-19-2007, 10:53 PM
I'll get to reading the latest chapter...

mfbtl
10-19-2007, 11:26 PM
Gamaken looked bad ass. Too bad he has a huge confidence problem. I wonder what the deal was with that?

Corinthian™
10-20-2007, 06:29 PM
I believe that Pain's current body was taken from a ninja who used to summon a lot of things rapidly... trying to overcome a weakness of the ninja eventually in battle...

And can't wait to see Jiraiya kick ass

TheVileOne
10-21-2007, 09:12 PM
I just watched episode 31. Have to say the entire episode accompanied by the muscial track made it very dramtic and quite sad.

Kankurou(sp?) still pisses me off (even in animated form) for what he said to Naruto about girls not wanting him.:cmad:

He was saying the girls that go after the cool, elite guys are the weak girls. Hint, hint toward Hinata or Sakura maybe? You don't really see Sakura pining about Sasuke anymore. And Hinata is pretty strong too.

Also, Temari is kind of going after Shikamaru. Shikamaru

Also, I think Jiraiya is a dead duck. Here are Kishimoto-san's earliest designs for Jiraiya from a databook:

http://img233.imageshack.us/img233/356/246wq8.gif

http://img473.imageshack.us/img473/4169/jiraiyaqn0.jpg

According to Kishimoto, originally, when Jiraiya would get excited by girls, he would change into this weird form, and the toads on his shoulders would do a stand-up comedy routine.

Iron Fist
10-21-2007, 09:31 PM
Interesting designs.

The observer
10-22-2007, 04:10 PM
Is there another channel in the U.S. besides Cartoon Network that shows Naruto?

Jecht
10-22-2007, 08:15 PM
Huzzah! I've finally read all chapters up to 375!

Giant Lobster FTW. :up:

NateGray
10-23-2007, 11:06 AM
Awesome drawings and I fear you may be correct in that Jiraiya may be dead but I hope he has a way to cut and run when he starts to lose.
I also see Sasuke and Naruto having to team up to beat the leader of the Atuksi after Sasuke deals with his brother.
Also did anyone notice in the shippuden episode the one girl who is pinning for Gaara is the girl he helped train?

uchiha_itachi
10-23-2007, 11:10 AM
i noticed tht

NateGray
10-23-2007, 11:50 AM
i noticed tht

Cool thanks for confirming it wasn't 100% sure

mfbtl
10-23-2007, 12:23 PM
Yeah she was also part of the squad with Temari guarding the boarders. I liked how they made Gaara still stiff from rigamortis.

NateGray
10-23-2007, 12:45 PM
Yeah she was also part of the squad with Temari guarding the boarders. I liked how they made Gaara still stiff from rigamortis.


Yep liked that to as well as the fact Naruto changed the way another person thinks in the way he changed elder Chiro's mind about saving Gaara.

I just wonder now since he no longer has the tailed demon in him if he will be more powerful since they elude that Naruto would be a lot more powerful if he didn't have one in him?

The observer
10-23-2007, 04:48 PM
well........... no fox=no limitless chakra, and no limitless chakra=no 2k bunshin so......... naruto wouldnt really be good without it

oakzap425
10-23-2007, 05:34 PM
well........... no fox=no limitless chakra, and no limitless chakra=no 2k bunshin so......... naruto wouldnt really be good without it

...it's already been stated that his base chakra is pretty high. And if I'm not mistaken, he's been using base chakra for his multiple replications except on a few occassions.

Sloth7d
10-23-2007, 05:42 PM
Didn't he just recently use the mass kagebushin jutsu to search for Sasuke without using kyubi chakra?

The observer
10-23-2007, 06:46 PM
but his base chakra is combined with the foxes yin (or maybe yang) chakra. so we dont know how high it would be on its own

Jecht
10-23-2007, 06:53 PM
Is it just me or does Juugo look like Yahiko? :o

Iron Fist
10-23-2007, 08:50 PM
...it's already been stated that his base chakra is pretty high. And if I'm not mistaken, he's been using base chakra for his multiple replications except on a few occassions.

It always looked to me like his chakra level was high.

Corinthian™
10-23-2007, 10:30 PM
but his base chakra is combined with the foxes yin (or maybe yang) chakra. so we dont know how high it would be on its own
uhm... when he accesses his Kyubi chakra it is noticed by his markings and eyes... he turns more ferral... but Naruto is a beast in terms of Chakra.. pretty much he has more than Kakashi and if he continues training in the end he could end up with more than Kisame

mfbtl
10-23-2007, 11:57 PM
Yeah Kakashi said Naruto has twice the amount of chakra than he. The tailed beasts provide a crap-ton of chakra. Tenzo, Yamamoto, or whatever Naruto's new team leader's name is just told Naruto he would be better off with his own power.

uchiha_itachi
10-24-2007, 06:32 AM
i would like it if the series took the turn that, naruto becomes really powerful but without the nine tails chakra, and he would only ever use that as a last resort.

X-Chick
10-24-2007, 12:00 PM
i would like it if the series took the turn that, naruto becomes really powerful but without the nine tails chakra, and he would only ever use that as a last resort.

That's pretty much what he does now. Naruto has won most of his fights by using his own ingenuity and his refusal to lose. Only in the most desperate of situations, like when he's out of chakra or knows he's ridiculously outmatched, does he ask for kyuubi's chakra.

dr venture
10-26-2007, 11:27 AM
Just watched the newest episode of Naruto and the Rescue Gaara arc has finally ended. Hopefully the pace of the show picks up

Corinthian™
10-26-2007, 06:04 PM
new chapter is up


And I believe that naruto is the destinied student, not Pein

Jecht
10-26-2007, 07:16 PM
new chapter is up


And I believe that naruto is the destinied student, not Pein
That'd be so lame and predictable. :dry:

Sloth7d
10-26-2007, 07:34 PM
new chapter is up


And I believe that naruto is the destinied student, not Pein

I was thinking the same thing.

Iron Fist
10-26-2007, 07:37 PM
new chapter is up


And I believe that naruto is the destinied student, not Pein

After reading the chapter, it's certainly looking that way.

Also, X-Chick, are you the same X-Chick that signed up to the Gate?

uchiha_itachi
10-26-2007, 08:51 PM
That's pretty much what he does now. Naruto has won most of his fights by using his own ingenuity and his refusal to lose. Only in the most desperate of situations, like when he's out of chakra or knows he's ridiculously outmatched, does he ask for kyuubi's chakra.

thats defo a good thing then :D

The observer
10-26-2007, 09:21 PM
uhm... when he accesses his Kyubi chakra it is noticed by his markings and eyes... he turns more ferral... but Naruto is a beast in terms of Chakra.. pretty much he has more than Kakashi and if he continues training in the end he could end up with more than Kisame
But the yin (or yang) chakra of the fox is mixeed with his. It would be his, and he wouldnt go feral.

Sloth7d
10-26-2007, 09:47 PM
Even when Orochimaru blocked off Naruto's kyubi chakra, he still had mass stamina and could use the mass dopple ganger technique. Remember his battle with the rain ninjas in the forest of death?

X-Chick
10-26-2007, 10:40 PM
After reading the chapter, it's certainly looking that way.

Also, X-Chick, are you the same X-Chick that signed up to the Gate?

The gate? :huh:

Iron Fist
10-26-2007, 10:42 PM
The gate? :huh:

The Phoenix Gate (http://z9.invisionfree.com/Amazing_Anime_Place/index.php?act=idx)

I saw your username so I was wondering if it was you.

X-Chick
10-26-2007, 10:49 PM
The Phoenix Gate (http://z9.invisionfree.com/Amazing_Anime_Place/index.php?act=idx)

I saw your username so I was wondering if it was you.

Oh, then yes, that is me. if only i can remember to post there. :yay: :huh:

mfbtl
10-27-2007, 02:11 AM
Even when Orochimaru blocked off Naruto's kyubi chakra, he still had mass stamina and could use the mass dopple ganger technique. Remember his battle with the rain ninjas in the forest of death?

I don't believe that he has ever tapped the 9 tails chakra in order to do the mass shadow clone juitsu. He used the juitsu once while he was the initial release of the 9 tails while fighting Sasuke, but once again I am sure he could have done the same thing if he wasn't tapping the 9 tails. Remember twice the amount of Kakashi.

Corinthian™
10-27-2007, 03:10 AM
But the yin (or yang) chakra of the fox is mixeed with his. It would be his, and he wouldnt go feral.
No it is not...

http://forums.superherohype.com/showpost.php?p=12785573&postcount=4787

to further add more into that statement.. I believe there's three levels of Naruto... level one is normal Naruto, plain and simple.. level two is when he becomes feral.. that's him using the Kyuubi chakra that was given to him to filter through... then there's level three Naruto which is when he has to ask for the chakra...

The observer
10-27-2007, 09:49 AM
I found something that explains my point extremly well a while back on forums.narutofan.com, but i cant find it now. im still searching

The observer
10-27-2007, 10:05 AM
heres something
http://forums.narutofan.com/showthread.php?t=275536

Dorian Gray
10-27-2007, 11:33 AM
interesting...

I also found this pretty funny....


Poster Tyrannos' Sig of Akatsuki's master plan
http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v93/dorian23/AkPlan4.jpg

The observer
10-27-2007, 11:40 AM
that is pretty good

ssj wolverine
10-27-2007, 11:52 AM
Just watched Naruto Shippudden episode 32. ZZzzzzzz.

kamesan
10-27-2007, 12:23 PM
no surprise there:whatever:

Sloth7d
10-27-2007, 02:46 PM
I don't believe that he has ever tapped the 9 tails chakra in order to do the mass shadow clone juitsu. He used the juitsu once while he was the initial release of the 9 tails while fighting Sasuke, but once again I am sure he could have done the same thing if he wasn't tapping the 9 tails. Remember twice the amount of Kakashi.

My point was, even without kyubi he's pretty freaking strong. Atleast Jonin level.

Corinthian™
10-27-2007, 02:58 PM
heres something
http://forums.narutofan.com/showthread.php?t=275536
I agree.. but still, Naruto and Naruto with the Kyuubi Chakra are two different things... in order for him to turn red he needs to access the Kyuubi Chakra that's left inside his body... I still believe that Naruto without the Kyuubi has a lot of potential and the Kyuubi might help him

even then, one could argue that the Kyuubi Chakra is helping him "train" how to increase his current chakra... but why this didn't happen to Gaara? Gaara used more of the Shukaku's Chakra most of the time!

Corinthian™
10-27-2007, 03:01 PM
My point was, even without kyubi he's pretty freaking strong. Atleast Jonin level.
At least? He's able to put up with Missing nin like Kakuzu and Deidara... he's almost equal to Kakashi and the only thing that's still pulling him back is his inexperience and stubbornness, but even that is disappearing with time

mfbtl
10-27-2007, 03:34 PM
My point was, even without kyubi he's pretty freaking strong. Atleast Jonin level.

Oh ... in which case I concur.

Twitch
10-27-2007, 04:08 PM
Is anyone (besides me) actually buying the manga when it hits the U.S.?

Sloth7d
10-27-2007, 04:26 PM
At least? He's able to put up with Missing nin like Kakuzu and Deidara... he's almost equal to Kakashi and the only thing that's still pulling him back is his inexperience and stubbornness, but even that is disappearing with time

Yeah, Jonin level. I don't see him being anbu level or hokage level yet.

Deidara had no more clay left and Kakuzu already lost some hearts.

Is anyone (besides me) actually buying the manga when it hits the U.S.?

I already have every shonen jump issue released so far aswell as volumes 17-21. :up:

Dorian Gray
10-27-2007, 07:49 PM
Speaking of Naruto's level....

Sasuke's level and battles with Deidara and Orochimaru can be questioned now that I think about it. Sasuke only sounds Sanin Level but Orochimaru was in a failing body and Deidabra was basicly The Fugitive x2 with no arms...and without the Sharingan his technques are only so so.

....I also question weather Naruto would ever be considered for Hokage in the future if Sasuke returned. Though I see Naruto killing Sasuke near the series end....unless they pull a DBGT on us and have them in adulthood.

Iron Fist
10-27-2007, 08:14 PM
Oh, then yes, that is me. if only i can remember to post there. :yay: :huh:

Oh, ok then that's good. And yes, do remember. We could use some new members. :woot:

Sloth7d
10-27-2007, 08:37 PM
Speaking of Naruto's level....

Sasuke's level and battles with Deidara and Orochimaru can be questioned now that I think about it. Sasuke only sounds Sanin Level but Orochimaru was in a failing body and Deidabra was basicly The Fugitive x2 with no arms...and without the Sharingan his technques are only so so.

....I also question weather Naruto would ever be considered for Hokage in the future if Sasuke returned. Though I see Naruto killing Sasuke near the series end....unless they pull a DBGT on us and have them in adulthood.

Sasuke WOULD be Hokage if he returned. I can't see anyone in Konoha defeating him right now. Jiraiya for sure, but he doesn't want to be Hokage anyway.

Lucy in the sky
10-27-2007, 08:50 PM
Sasuke WOULD be Hokage if he returned. I can't see anyone in Konoha defeating him right now. Jiraiya for sure, but he doesn't want to be Hokage anyway.

Kakashi can still take him with the mangekyo. Maybe it's just my sharingan bias, but I think Sasuke could take Jiraiya. If it wasn't for storyline purposes Itachi would have probably melted Jiraiya when they came for Naruto.

Dorian Gray
10-27-2007, 09:03 PM
... is it me or did Jiraiya really hold back in training Naruto? sure he taught him how to use Kyubi's chakra but he really didn't change much. His jutsus are meh and he's still impatient, stubborn, and lacking intelligence and basic common sense.

Masashi Kishimoto must have a dislike for his own main character to hold him back so much.....:huh:

mfbtl
10-27-2007, 09:04 PM
Kakashi can still take him with the mangekyo. Maybe it's just my sharingan bias, but I think Sasuke could take Jiraiya. If it wasn't for storyline purposes Itachi would have probably melted Jiraiya when they came for Naruto.

Yeah I always thought that was weird. How Itachi put Orochimaru in his place yet he and kisame couldn't attack Jiraiya?

KalKai
10-27-2007, 09:04 PM
It's more like Naruto hold back Jiraiya.

Sloth7d
10-27-2007, 09:26 PM
Kakashi can still take him with the mangekyo. Maybe it's just my sharingan bias, but I think Sasuke could take Jiraiya. If it wasn't for storyline purposes Itachi would have probably melted Jiraiya when they came for Naruto.

Kakashi's magenkyo is way to unstable to take Sasuke. Especially since he can't aim it or activate it fast enough.

If Sasuke had Magenkyo I'd bet he could take Jiraiya too, but until then we've seen Jiraiya dispel regular sharigan genjutsu before.

Jecht
10-27-2007, 09:28 PM
Yeah I always thought that was weird. How Itachi put Orochimaru in his place yet he and kisame couldn't attack Jiraiya?
To be fair, Itachi's sole reason for fleeing from Jiraiya was because he was low on chakra from using the Mangekyou. Also, he only said he'd lose to Jiraiya in the anime, not the manga.

However, Naruto is filled with inconsistencies in power levels so it's all good. :o

Sloth7d
10-27-2007, 09:31 PM
Not to mention Kisame questioned why he was running. Eitherway, the A>B>C logic doesn't always work in Naruto.

Lucy in the sky
10-28-2007, 12:19 AM
Kakashi's magenkyo is way to unstable to take Sasuke. Especially since he can't aim it or activate it fast enough.

If Sasuke had Magenkyo I'd bet he could take Jiraiya too, but until then we've seen Jiraiya dispel regular sharigan genjutsu before.

Kakashi is just doing the space/time jutsu or can he do other aspects like Itachi?

Corinthian™
10-28-2007, 12:25 AM
Kakashi is just doing the space/time jutsu or can he do other aspects like Itachi?
We don't know :dry:

Sloth7d
10-28-2007, 01:02 AM
Kakashi is just doing the space/time jutsu or can he do other aspects like Itachi?

If he could have used Amaterasu, I'm sure he would have used that on Deidara instead of using a warp technique he can't even aim.

ssj wolverine
10-28-2007, 10:49 AM
... is it me or did Jiraiya really hold back in training Naruto? sure he taught him how to use Kyubi's chakra but he really didn't change much. His jutsus are meh and he's still impatient, stubborn, and lacking intelligence and basic common sense.


Tell me about it. In watch the Shippudden eps, Naruto has been a huge let down. More than likely Jiraiya isn't a very good teacher wheras Tsunade has taught Sakura very well. Before Sakura was just a whiny little girl but now she is powerful and looks like she could give Naruto an asswhipping.

Dorian Gray
10-28-2007, 11:29 AM
I just watched ep 32, boring but funny especially the piggy back scenes....

"Gai throws kakashi on his back"
Naruto: That's kinda Gross
Sakura: Two old men giving piggy back rides it's worse than it sounds.
Ten-Ten: Yuck
Neji::dry:
Rock lee: I see!! You're training:wow:
"Gai and kakashi run off"
Sakura: Running only makes it worse.

Rock Lee: Neji(waiting for Neji to hop on his back)
Neji: OH, Hell No!!!:cmad:

......that saved this episode for me and Tobi aggervating Deidara was pretty funny too.

Dorian Gray
10-28-2007, 11:37 AM
Tell me about it. In watch the Shippudden eps, Naruto has been a huge let down. More than likely Jiraiya isn't a very good teacher wheras Tsunade has taught Sakura very well. Before Sakura was just a whiny little girl but now she is powerful and looks like she could give Naruto an asswhipping.

He does some good things in the manga but campared to Sasuke it just aggervates me that he hasn't improved that much since the time skip began.

I give him credit for having a insane amount of base Chakra but as far as jutsus and fighting ability are concerned he falls short...Rasen-Shuriken to me isn't that impressive.

Jiraiya is bad ass no question, probably more than Orochimaru but he didn't seem like he was teaching Naruto much during the 2 1/2 years apart from Konoha..

Dorian Gray
10-28-2007, 11:45 AM
Kakashi is just doing the space/time jutsu or can he do other aspects like Itachi?

Considering he only has half a Sharingan I doubt he is able or will be able to cast genjutsus just by a look or use Tsukiyomi or Amaterasu.....

The observer
10-28-2007, 07:01 PM
I agree.. but still, Naruto and Naruto with the Kyuubi Chakra are two different things... in order for him to turn red he needs to access the Kyuubi Chakra that's left inside his body... I still believe that Naruto without the Kyuubi has a lot of potential and the Kyuubi might help him

even then, one could argue that the Kyuubi Chakra is helping him "train" how to increase his current chakra... but why this didn't happen to Gaara? Gaara used more of the Shukaku's Chakra most of the time!
Shukakus ability was to control sand, but the nine tails was near limitless chakra. So Gaara didnt need shukakus chakra because the sand would protect him without any chakra left. Naruto however, uses the foxes chakra because he needs it. (sorry if that dosnt make sense, I'll sort it out later.)

Lucy in the sky
10-28-2007, 10:19 PM
Considering he only has half a Sharingan I doubt he is able or will be able to cast genjutsus just by a look or use Tsukiyomi or Amaterasu.....

He has "a" sharingan though he probably he can't do the other Uchiha techniques. Now I'm wondering if Itachi can create a "localized interdimensional space-time warp deal" like Kakashi. I'm assuming he would be able to create it, and aim it better having two mangekyo.:o

Dorian Gray
10-28-2007, 11:25 PM
He has "a" sharingan though he probably he can't do the other Uchiha techniques. Now I'm wondering if Itachi can create a "localized interdimensional space-time warp deal" like Kakashi. I'm assuming he would be able to create it, and aim it better having two mangekyo.:o

My belief is that the Mangekyo Sharingan is different for each user (maybe it also depends what method they use in aquiring it).....the one he got from Obito may have contained this version. I actually doubt Itachi could just create the space-time rift, if he did this series would be dead to me.

My high hopes is that Naruto gains the new Doujutsu that was introduced(I forget it's name).

mfbtl
10-29-2007, 01:20 AM
Shukakus ability was to control sand, but the nine tails was near limitless chakra. So Gaara didnt need shukakus chakra because the sand would protect him without any chakra left. Naruto however, uses the foxes chakra because he needs it. (sorry if that dosnt make sense, I'll sort it out later.)

I am sure Shukaku is more powerfull than that. I mean he might have beaten Naruto if it weren't for the fact that weird technique Gaara and him used that required Gaara to have to stay asleep.

uchiha_itachi
10-29-2007, 07:55 AM
well look at what shukaku did with his sand control. i would say hes pretty damn powerful.

oh and im so happy tobi is in the anime now :D

X-Chick
10-29-2007, 11:53 AM
I am sure Shukaku is more powerfull than that. I mean he might have beaten Naruto if it weren't for the fact that weird technique Gaara and him used that required Gaara to have to stay asleep.

Right, I am sure Shukaku had ridiculous amounts of chakra, but Kyuubi is still the strongest of all the bijuu and Shukaku is the weakest. :o

Also, I hate Sai. I hope he dies. :down

mfbtl
10-29-2007, 01:06 PM
I'm sure you are right. Give Sai a chance; he gets funnier after a while.

Colossal Spoons
10-29-2007, 01:21 PM
I'm still a few weeks behind on the manga, but Jiraiya just crawled out of a toad's mouth. Wow :eek:

NateGray
10-29-2007, 01:43 PM
I'm sure you are right. Give Sai a chance; he gets funnier after a while.

Exactly he is not so bad.

X-Chick
10-29-2007, 05:52 PM
He might not be so bad, but he doesn't belong on the team. :o

The observer
10-29-2007, 06:41 PM
hes sorta annoying

Jecht
10-29-2007, 06:47 PM
Penis.

Dorian Gray
10-29-2007, 07:27 PM
Penis.

http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v93/dorian23/Penis_Powah_by_paperclipluver.jpg

uchiha_itachi
10-29-2007, 07:45 PM
i guess he says penis alot then..lol

X-Chick
10-30-2007, 12:48 AM
hes sorta annoying

he's completely annoying


^fixed it for you :up:

Corinthian™
10-30-2007, 03:52 PM
Shukakus ability was to control sand, but the nine tails was near limitless chakra. So Gaara didnt need shukakus chakra because the sand would protect him without any chakra left. Naruto however, uses the foxes chakra because he needs it. (sorry if that dosnt make sense, I'll sort it out later.)
it was NEVER stated what the Kyuubi ability is... It does give you lots of chakra but that's because the way it was sealed into Naruto... and right off the bat, Shukaku's Chakra is huge too.

Hell, I'm starting to theorize that possesing a tailed beast actually "trains" you in the sense that you learn how to increase your chakra capacity to the point Naruto is right now

I mean, Gaara was constantly using the Shukaku's Chakra... but we all remember that Shukaku's sand was just the sand on the Gourd, the Gourd and the sand covering his body... everything else was controlled by Gaara... and to reach the point you could control a freaking desert, well, if you ask me in the scale of Naruto's power scale, that's really up in the scale

It wouldn't surprise me that the Kyuubi's actual abilities are not seen yet... maybe that black orb of the fight between Naruto and Orochimaru... but I dunno..

oakzap425
10-31-2007, 05:50 PM
Shukakus ability was to control sand, but the nine tails was near limitless chakra. So Gaara didnt need shukakus chakra because the sand would protect him without any chakra left. Naruto however, uses the foxes chakra because he needs it. (sorry if that dosnt make sense, I'll sort it out later.)

Give me the manga chapter that tells me Naruto needs Kyuubi chakra.

Kyuubi chakra is a reserve. The only time we have seen Naruto use Kyuubi chakra is when his natural chakra is drained, or when he needs a boost from Kyuubi to do something.

I wish people would stop saying Naruto is only Naruto because of the Chakra of Kyuubi.

Naruto has already stated several times since he's learned that he harbours the Demon that he wants to choose his own path, and use his own power.


And I highly doubt The elders nor any of the other Shinobi would accept a Traitor and a missing Nin, such as Sasuke, to become Hokage. It's the equivalent of them giving the Postion to Orochimaru, regardless of Sasuke's motives for leaving Konoha.

Dorian Gray
10-31-2007, 07:04 PM
And I highly doubt The elders nor any of the other Shinobi would accept a Traitor and a missing Nin, such as Sasuke, to become Hokage. It's the equivalent of them giving the Postion to Orochimaru, regardless of Sasuke's motives for leaving Konoha.


I'm more or less aggervated with this series because of the seemingly unbeatable Uchihas, especially Sasuke. Kishimoto can't write for **** IMO.:dry:

Iron Fist
10-31-2007, 08:35 PM
Anyone get the new Naruto game today?

Dorian Gray
10-31-2007, 08:38 PM
Anyone get the new Naruto game today?

Which one?

EDIT

I wouldn't mind having
Naruto Shippūden: Narutimate Accel and Naruto Shippuden: Narutimate Accel 2

Iron Fist
10-31-2007, 08:53 PM
Which one?

EDIT

I wouldn't mind having
Naruto Shippūden: Narutimate Accel and Naruto Shippuden: Narutimate Accel 2

The new game, Nartuo: Rise of a Ninja. It came out for the 360 today. It looks like the best Naruto game right now. I going to get it tomorrow. :up:

Dorian Gray
10-31-2007, 09:05 PM
The new game, Nartuo: Rise of a Ninja. It came out for the 360 today. It looks like the best Naruto game right now. I going to get it tomorrow. :up:

I don't own a 360:csad:

Iron Fist
10-31-2007, 09:17 PM
I don't own a 360:csad:

Sorry man. :csad: But seriously, the game looks insane I would try to get one. :up:

There's over 13 characters I believe and we can walk up walls and trees and free roam around the sand village with Naruto.

I posted the trailer and a link to picutres a few pages back, check them out.

Iron Fist
11-01-2007, 08:30 PM
I got the new Naruto game today and wow it'd simply the best game yet. I recommend it to any Naruto fan.

uchiha_itachi
11-01-2007, 08:31 PM
im gonna give tht a try. im not expecting alot cos the other games ive played suck lol

Iron Fist
11-01-2007, 08:41 PM
im gonna give tht a try. im not expecting alot cos the other games ive played suck lol

I think it's the best one so far. Free roaming around the sand village is so much fun.

uchiha_itachi
11-01-2007, 08:42 PM
that does sound cool. is itachi in the game? lol

Iron Fist
11-01-2007, 09:09 PM
that does sound cool. is itachi in the game? lol

Sadly no. :csad: I saw a list of characters and didn't see his name there course things could change and I might run into him in the game. But I heard Shikamaru will be a secret character so can't wait for that. There are 10 playable characters.

Check out this screen shot:

http://xbox360media.ign.com/xbox360/image/article/788/788801/naruto-20070516110109111.jpg

uchiha_itachi
11-01-2007, 09:10 PM
damn those graphics make it look damn close to the anime

Iron Fist
11-01-2007, 09:19 PM
damn those graphics make it look damn close to the anime

The village of Konoha is so fun to explore. I have more screen caps:

http://image.com.com/gamespot/images/2007/302/reviews/932520_20071030_screen002.jpg

http://image.com.com/gamespot/images/2007/302/reviews/932520_20071030_screen003.jpg

http://image.com.com/gamespot/images/2007/302/reviews/932520_20071030_screen005.jpg

http://image.com.com/gamespot/images/2007/302/reviews/932520_20071030_screen012.jpg

http://image.com.com/gamespot/images/2007/302/reviews/932520_20071030_screen016.jpg

http://image.com.com/gamespot/images/2007/302/reviews/932520_20071030_screen025.jpg

http://image.com.com/gamespot/images/2007/302/932520_20071030_screen005.jpg

X-Chick
11-01-2007, 09:21 PM
Which game are you talking about? The new Chronicles one?

uchiha_itachi
11-01-2007, 09:24 PM
damn that game actually is looking pretty good. thnkx for posting the screens

Iron Fist
11-01-2007, 09:26 PM
Few more:

http://image.com.com/gamespot/images/2007/129/932520_20070510_screen003.jpg

http://image.com.com/gamespot/images/2007/191/932520_20070711_screen003.jpg

http://image.com.com/gamespot/images/2007/191/932520_20070711_screen008.jpg

http://image.com.com/gamespot/images/2007/141/reviews/932520_20070522_screen003.jpg

http://image.com.com/gamespot/images/2007/141/reviews/932520_20070522_screen005.jpg

Iron Fist
11-01-2007, 09:28 PM
Which game are you talking about? The new Chronicles one?

Nope, not that one. The screen caps and game i'm talking about is Naruto: Rise of a Ninja. I bought it today. :up:

damn that game actually is looking pretty good. thnkx for posting the screens

No problem. It's so cool to use Naruto's chakra and run up walls and trees.

X-Chick
11-01-2007, 09:53 PM
Nope, not that one. The screen caps and game i'm talking about is Naruto: Rise of a Ninja. I bought it today. :up:


Ah, awesome. Yeah, I heard the new Chronicles was as stupid as the first, so I really didn't think it was that one.

I'll have to go buy it tomorrow, it looks great. :up:

Iron Fist
11-01-2007, 10:03 PM
Ah, awesome. Yeah, I heard the new Chronicles was as stupid as the first, so I really didn't think it was that one.

I'll have to go buy it tomorrow, it looks great. :up:

It really is great, it starts off slow at first but really picks up when you play more.

oakzap425
11-02-2007, 01:14 PM
...Guys, help me out. got limited Internet access. I'm thinking about getting a naurot tattoo. Can someone post the Sandaime quote before his death, while fighting Orochimaru. Something about the will of fire or something...

The observer
11-02-2007, 06:03 PM
please.......dont. That blows past nerdiness right into dork extremis

dr venture
11-02-2007, 06:11 PM
"To Where The Leaves Dance and The Fire Burns"

Is that the one you're talking about

Jecht
11-02-2007, 06:36 PM
And the continuation:

http://img235.imageshack.us/img235/1937/p1vr0.jpg

Iron Fist
11-02-2007, 09:46 PM
Great stuff. :up:

The observer
11-03-2007, 08:04 AM
yes,it is

Genesis 1.0
11-03-2007, 10:55 AM
Okay, so I'm at Ep. 32 with the Shippuden, where can I read the manga?

Slight question, just where does Chiyo stand among Shinobi in this series? She was pretty kick ass but is she just a midcard or a little higher?

The observer
11-03-2007, 11:20 AM
little higher

Genesis 1.0
11-03-2007, 11:31 AM
Hmmm, I thought as much. Her chakra control and ingenuity were a real surprise, I didn't think she would add up to much through the first portion but by the time Sasori was dead, I'd changed my tune.

I wonder if her companion was as tough as she was?

Jecht
11-03-2007, 02:49 PM
Okay, so I'm at Ep. 32 with the Shippuden, where can I read the manga?


Chapter 278 or 279, probably.

EDIT- Did you mean where as in which chapter or where as in which website?

Slight question, just where does Chiyo stand among Shinobi in this series? She was pretty kick ass but is she just a midcard or a little higher?
Somewhere above Kakashi. Sasori could have killed her if he wanted to.

oakzap425
11-03-2007, 03:27 PM
please.......dont. That blows past nerdiness right into dork extremis

...I go to conventions, cosplay, post on message boards, and spend ridiculous amounts of time reading fanfiction, preferably yaoi fanfic.



I think I've already reached that point.:whatever:

oakzap425
11-03-2007, 03:28 PM
Okay, so I'm at Ep. 32 with the Shippuden, where can I read the manga?

Slight question, just where does Chiyo stand among Shinobi in this series? She was pretty kick ass but is she just a midcard or a little higher?

She's a Suna Elder, and medinin for Suna. I think she dealt a lot with puppets too, which is why Sasori was so skilled.

She's acutally an elite shinobi.

The observer
11-03-2007, 03:34 PM
...I go to conventions, cosplay, post on message boards, and spend ridiculous amounts of time reading fanfiction, preferably yaoi fanfic.



I think I've already reached that point.:whatever:
ah, well in that case, go for it

Dorian Gray
11-03-2007, 03:49 PM
Oak, just out of curiousity. Is that Shiba Ganju in your avatar?

SouLeSS
11-03-2007, 04:17 PM
Is that a Kenpachi/Kon fusion in yours?

oakzap425
11-03-2007, 05:20 PM
Oak, just out of curiousity. Is that Shiba Ganju in your avatar?

Hell to the F yes. I love Ganjyu...

Dorian Gray
11-03-2007, 05:23 PM
Is that a Kenpachi/Kon fusion in yours?

Of course...in fact it's Konpachi.:up:

Dorian Gray
11-03-2007, 05:29 PM
Hell to the F yes. I love Ganjyu...

...and we can't ignore Bonnie-chan's greatness.:woot:

oakzap425
11-03-2007, 06:03 PM
...and we can't ignore Bonnie-chan's greatness.:woot:

And the rest of Ganjyu's Gang.


...And also... Ganjyu's Man-crush on Hanatarou

X-Chick
11-04-2007, 12:54 AM
And the rest of Ganjyu's Gang.


...And also... Ganjyu's Man-crush on Hanatarou

That is especially hilarious. :up:


Also, fellow Naruto and anime fans, I need your help this Tuesday. Vote Mee and X-Chick in the Hype Presidential Election. Because, you know, anime fans have to stick together. Sadly, nobody else understands us. Thanks. :up: :heart:

Lucy in the sky
11-04-2007, 01:10 AM
That is especially hilarious. :up:


Also, fellow Naruto and anime fans, I need your help this Tuesday. Vote Mee and X-Chick in the Hype Presidential Election. Because, you know, anime fans have to stick together. Sadly, nobody else understands us. Thanks. :up: :heart:

For that depressing realism I'll vote for you.:csad:

X-Chick
11-04-2007, 01:12 AM
For that depressing realism I'll vote for you.:csad:

Sorry, but it seems to be true. I've already gotten crap from other posters for loving Naruto. It's just too much for them to understand and comprehend. :csad:

Corinthian™
11-04-2007, 03:12 AM
**** you X-Chick

show me your boobs and you'll gain my vote

Tit for Tat:o

oakzap425
11-04-2007, 03:05 PM
Lmao!

X-chick... you're doing something for the others to be harassing you about watching naruto. Are you posting random Naruto threads in the Community forum?!

The observer
11-04-2007, 07:17 PM
whats wrong with naruto? why must people hate it so?

Iron Fist
11-04-2007, 08:25 PM
whats wrong with naruto? why must people hate it so?

No clue.

The observer
11-05-2007, 06:50 AM
its so sad

Genesis 1.0
11-05-2007, 02:04 PM
No, I meant which website.

As to Chiyo, above Kakashi 'eh? Even with his imporoved Sharingan? That's better than I would have thought, although I would have given anything to see her fight his father. Oh well.

While I'm thinking about it, is Diedra just annoying or is that just me? I'd actually rather watch Tobi than listen and watch Diedra.

Arkady Rossovich
11-05-2007, 02:12 PM
I wish that new Naruto game was on the PS3.

uchiha_itachi
11-05-2007, 02:12 PM
tobi rules

Genesis 1.0
11-05-2007, 02:13 PM
I wouldn't say he rules, but he's a hell of a lot better than watching Deidra.

uchiha_itachi
11-05-2007, 02:15 PM
meh i duno, i think hes cool...and skitzophrenic ( i cant spell).

Corinthian™
11-05-2007, 02:16 PM
I don't like his voice :csad:

uchiha_itachi
11-05-2007, 02:19 PM
lol i thought that as soon as i heard him, but i think we'll get used to it.

mfbtl
11-05-2007, 03:15 PM
Actually his voice is kind of what I assumed it would sound like. I knew it would have to be a voice that you couldn't take too seriously.

Jecht
11-05-2007, 08:28 PM
No, I meant which website.You can never go wrong Naruto Manga Returns (http://groups.msn.com/NarutoMangaReturns/welcome.msnw). The site is relatively fast but their more recent scans are usually resized to the point it's illegible. If this is the case, I suggest Manga Hut. (http://mangahut.com/manga/Naruto.html)

As to Chiyo, above Kakashi 'eh? Even with his imporoved Sharingan? That's better than I would have thought, although I would have given anything to see her fight his father. Oh well.His Mangekyou Sharingan isn't very powerful, honestly.

Corinthian™
11-06-2007, 02:09 AM
You can never go wrong Naruto Manga Returns (http://groups.msn.com/NarutoMangaReturns/welcome.msnw). The site is relatively fast but their more recent scans are usually resized to the point it's illegible. If this is the case, I suggest Manga Hut. (http://mangahut.com/manga/Naruto.html)

His Mangekyou Sharingan isn't very powerful, honestly.
http://www.onemanga.com/Naruto is great too

Genesis 1.0
11-06-2007, 03:18 PM
So at what issue of the manga does it jump from the latest episode of the Shippuden? So I can transition as smoothly as possible.

Oh and I thought his new Sharingan was rather unique, not what you'd consider powerful in a classical sense but very unqiue, something the series needed in my estimation.

oakzap425
11-06-2007, 03:42 PM
You can never go wrong Naruto Manga Returns (http://groups.msn.com/NarutoMangaReturns/welcome.msnw). The site is relatively fast but their more recent scans are usually resized to the point it's illegible. If this is the case, I suggest Manga Hut. (http://mangahut.com/manga/Naruto.html)

His Mangekyou Sharingan isn't very powerful, honestly.

...It's not the fact that his MS is weak. Sending someone to another plane of existance is relativley powerful. It's the fact that his chakra and stamina are crappy.

mfbtl
11-06-2007, 04:25 PM
Yeah he doesn't have the Uchiha body that works well with the sharingan.

Jecht
11-06-2007, 07:38 PM
I should have said that the one attack we've seen wasn't really powerful as we haven't witnessed Kakashi's full capability with the Mangekyou.

...It's not the fact that his MS is weak. Sending someone to another plane of existance is relativley powerful. It's the fact that his chakra and stamina are crappy.Nah, I thought it was weak because it took forever to charge up and he was horrible at aiming it. Compared to Tsukiyumi and Amaterasu, it's fairly weak.

So at what issue of the manga does it jump from the latest episode of the Shippuden? So I can transition as smoothly as possible.278 or 279.

Colossal Spoons
11-06-2007, 10:41 PM
So you guys give that Rise of Ninja game good reviews?

Lucy in the sky
11-06-2007, 11:33 PM
So you guys give that Rise of Ninja game good reviews?

Definitely rent it, it's Naruto:o I'm making a to scale Itachi poster in my art class I will try to have pics up:ninja:

Sloth7d
11-07-2007, 12:24 AM
The 360 game? My friend has it. It's EFFING awesome. I can't decsribe it any other way.

Colossal Spoons
11-07-2007, 12:36 AM
Can you and a bunch of friends play?

Sloth7d
11-07-2007, 12:40 AM
There's a vs mode that includes most of the characters from the Chunin exams arc. And theres also online multiplayer. But from what I saw it's only 1 on 1 type matches.

Colossal Spoons
11-07-2007, 12:41 AM
Hmm, thanks :up:

Sloth7d
11-07-2007, 12:45 AM
No problem. But for what it's worth the game is worth getting just for the free roaming in single player, not saying the multiplayer is bad, but they captured the free roam feel in Naruto perfectly. I'm thinking about getting a 360 just to get this.

Colossal Spoons
11-07-2007, 09:08 AM
I'll def rent it

Genesis 1.0
11-07-2007, 12:38 PM
Hmmmm, I just read through where Orochimaru was going to kilkl Sasori, now there's a fight I would have wanted to see.

Genesis 1.0
11-07-2007, 12:59 PM
Okay, little problem, Issue 296 is missing. So what happened after Orochimaru nailed Naruto with the serpent blade? It jumps from Naruto's 4 tailed form battling to 297 with Sai talking to Orochimaru?

Sloth7d
11-07-2007, 01:30 PM
Kusanagi does nothing. In the end there was nothing Orochimaru could do to hurt 4tails and his body started rejecting him causing the snake man to retreat.

mfbtl
11-07-2007, 01:31 PM
Hey Sega Genesis go to onemanga they have 296-current, which I think is 376.

Genesis 1.0
11-07-2007, 01:32 PM
Kusanagi does nothing. In the end there was nothing Orochimaru could do to hurt 4tails and his body started rejecting him causing the snake man to retreat.

Ah so not even Orochimaru was able to quell him? That's actually quite interesting, thanks Sloth.

Iron Fist
11-07-2007, 06:57 PM
So you guys give that Rise of Ninja game good reviews?

I got it last week, it's the best Naruto game to date. Take it from me, I really recommend it.

The 360 game? My friend has it. It's EFFING awesome. I can't decsribe it any other way.

:up:

No problem. But for what it's worth the game is worth getting just for the free roaming in single player, not saying the multiplayer is bad, but they captured the free roam feel in Naruto perfectly. I'm thinking about getting a 360 just to get this.

The free roaming is the best part and of course the funnest. I agree, they really did capture is well. Shikamaru is a secret character which i'm close to unlocking.

I'll def rent it

Do so. :ninja:

Dorian Gray
11-07-2007, 07:09 PM
I see Neji is in it...makes it almost worth thinking about getting a 360.

Iron Fist
11-07-2007, 07:53 PM
I see Neji is in it...makes it almost worth thinking about getting a 360.

He is in it, same for Sasuke and etc. :up:

Colossal Spoons
11-07-2007, 07:57 PM
Neji FTW

Iron Fist
11-07-2007, 08:15 PM
Indeed.

The observer
11-08-2007, 05:57 PM
who exactly can you play as in RON?

Iron Fist
11-08-2007, 08:40 PM
who exactly can you play as in RON?

Naruto
Sasuke
Neji
Sakura
Kakashi
Kiba
Zabuza
Haku
Orochimaru
Gaara
Shikamaru - secret character

Sloth7d
11-09-2007, 02:32 PM
So, I just recieved the english version of Naruto vol 24 today. I have to ask you guys... is anybody as pissed off as me that they censored Lee's drunken style to the Potion Punch?

NateGray
11-09-2007, 02:38 PM
So, I just recieved the english version of Naruto vol 24 today. I have to ask you guys... is anybody as pissed off as me that they censored Lee's drunken style to the Potion Punch?

Not sure what you mean I have only seen the English subtext version where they say he is drunk?

Sloth7d
11-09-2007, 02:45 PM
Not sure what you mean I have only seen the English subtext version where they say he is drunk?

Nope, that's just the subtitled and scanslated versions. In the dub and official translations Viz has been taking lessons from 4kids. What used to be a bottle sake and drunken style has now been censored to a Private Potion of Tsunades and the Potion Punch fighting style.

Twitch
11-09-2007, 02:52 PM
Nope, that's just the subtitled and scanslated versions. In the dub and official translations Viz has been taking lessons from 4kids. What used to be a bottle sake and drunken style has now been censored to a Private Potion of Tsunades and the Potion Punch fighting style.

:csad:

NateGray
11-09-2007, 03:01 PM
Nope, that's just the subtitled and scanslated versions. In the dub and official translations Viz has been taking lessons from 4kids. What used to be a bottle sake and drunken style has now been censored to a Private Potion of Tsunades and the Potion Punch fighting style.



:cmad:

That is so wrong that episode rocked with drunken Lee just kicking ass :csad:

This area reserved for curse words I am muttering to myself this moment.

Sloth7d
11-09-2007, 05:25 PM
I know man. I know. :cmad: :csad:

mfbtl
11-09-2007, 05:46 PM
I understand that they don't want Lee to be drinking, but Drunken Boxing is a reputable style. This is a terrible dis to close to at least hundreds of thousands of people.

dr venture
11-09-2007, 11:03 PM
Just watched the newest episode and Naruto trying to see Kakashi's face was funny

Genesis 1.0
11-10-2007, 12:59 PM
Uh, when Kakashi says that Naruto has surpassed him, in what aspect did he mean that?

Sloth7d
11-10-2007, 01:58 PM
Uh, when Kakashi says that Naruto has surpassed him, in what aspect did he mean that?


I don't know myself. It sounded like BS the first time I read it. The only thing Naruto has over Kakashi is stamina and power. Everything else Kakashi has him beat on. Someone corrects Kakashi's remark later though.

Iron Fist
11-10-2007, 08:31 PM
Spoons, did you rent RON?

So, I just recieved the english version of Naruto vol 24 today. I have to ask you guys... is anybody as pissed off as me that they censored Lee's drunken style to the Potion Punch?

They really did that? Oh, that's just....:cmad::down

Genesis 1.0
11-13-2007, 01:01 PM
I don't know myself. It sounded like BS the first time I read it. The only thing Naruto has over Kakashi is stamina and power. Everything else Kakashi has him beat on. Someone corrects Kakashi's remark later though.

My thoughts exactly, Naruto has him beat in the sheer amount of chakra and stamina, and perhaps his determination that led to his mastering of a technique that was deemed impossible. Given alot more time I'd say yeah, but not now.

Oh and who corrected it?

Sloth7d
11-13-2007, 01:27 PM
My thoughts exactly, Naruto has him beat in the sheer amount of chakra and stamina, and perhaps his determination that led to his mastering of a technique that was deemed impossible. Given alot more time I'd say yeah, but not now.

Oh and who corrected it?

Jiraiya and Tsunade were talking about who would be next in line for Hokage if Tsunade died. Jiraiya said Kakashi's a sure thing. Tsunade said that Naruto's pretty good too. But Jiraiya disagreed and said Naruto's a long ways off. Depending on interpritation you can see that as him saying Kakashi>Naruto.

Iron Fist
11-13-2007, 07:38 PM
I beat the Naruto game yesterday, it was great all around.

Genesis 1.0
11-14-2007, 11:20 AM
Jiraiya and Tsunade were talking about who would be next in line for Hokage if Tsunade died. Jiraiya said Kakashi's a sure thing. Tsunade said that Naruto's pretty good too. But Jiraiya disagreed and said Naruto's a long ways off. Depending on interpritation you can see that as him saying Kakashi>Naruto.

Yeah but Asuma said the same thing about Shikimaru, that he'd be a great Hokage. I don't think it has all to do with strength per se, as in Shikimaru's case he'd be a good nominee because of his tactical knowledge, ect.

I'd prefer anctual rebuttal to Kakashi's statement, know what I mean?

Corinthian™
11-14-2007, 11:21 PM
Yeah but Asuma said the same thing about Shikimaru, that he'd be a great Hokage. I don't think it has all to do with strength per se, as in Shikimaru's case he'd be a good nominee because of his tactical knowledge, ect.

I'd prefer anctual rebuttal to Kakashi's statement, know what I mean?
Jiraya would've been a good Hokage too, but he declined... same will happen with Shikamaru... It will be too bothersome but he could make a good stratego for the hokage and a kick ass villain if he goes all mising-nin on Konoha's behind

TheVileOne
11-15-2007, 03:57 AM
Asuma more or less said that Shikamaru COULD make a good hokage if he wasn't so damn lazy.

Also Jiraiya is right about Naruto. Naruto has not matured enough mentally or emotionally. And Kakashi was kind of silly to say that Naruto has surpassed him. I honestly feel if it came down to it, if they faced each other, Kakashi would come out on top.

Genesis 1.0
11-15-2007, 11:56 AM
Asuma more or less said that Shikamaru COULD make a good hokage if he wasn't so damn lazy.

Also Jiraiya is right about Naruto. Naruto has not matured enough mentally or emotionally. And Kakashi was kind of silly to say that Naruto has surpassed him. I honestly feel if it came down to it, if they faced each other, Kakashi would come out on top.

That's what I feel as well, although I don't know if he'd be able to take naruto if his transformation went beyond 4 tails. Knowing what he knows, I'm sure that Kakashi would eliminate him before he was able to get that far. It still irritates me because he said it twice.

Corinthian: Shikimaru as a Missing-Nin = Coolest Arc Ever

TheVileOne
11-15-2007, 04:47 PM
I think he's just trying to positively encourage Naruto more, after what happened with Sasuke.

I also think Jiraiya failed as a teacher in that he didn't get Naruto to control his anger and emotions better. He should've broken Naruto like a wild horse.

Dorian Gray
11-15-2007, 09:38 PM
Naruto's retarded nature makes me glad I gave up on this ridiculous series:up: Nothing good has come of it....especially in Naruto's case.


Naruto series all together = a big disappointment(at least for me).

Sloth7d
11-15-2007, 10:06 PM
:csad: Geez. Why is everyone giving up on the series? I'm especially amped now that Pain has finally started doing something. And watching him put the whooping on Jiraiya makes me wonder what Jiraiya will do next to even keep up. I mean his frog summons are useless, his ultimate rasengan is useless, his hair jutsus are useless, his enhanced abilities from his toad sage transformation are useless, and even he (who seems to be the best user of Katon so far) can't put a scratch on Pain with even Katon. It has me wondering what will happen next since Pain isn't trying and hasn't been hurt once.

Lucy in the sky
11-16-2007, 01:59 AM
:csad: Geez. Why is everyone giving up on the series? I'm especially amped now that Pain has finally started doing something. And watching him put the whooping on Jiraiya makes me wonder what Jiraiya will do next to even keep up. I mean his frog summons are useless, his ultimate rasengan is useless, his hair jutsus are useless, his enhanced abilities from his toad sage transformation are useless, and even he (who seems to be the best user of Katon so far) can't put a scratch on Pain with even Katon. It has me wondering what will happen next since Pain isn't trying and hasn't been hurt once.

I always thought Itachi was the best katon user. It's kind of the Uchiha's schtick after the sharingan, being a fan for the symbol.:csad:

Genesis 1.0
11-16-2007, 11:49 AM
Thank God the Uchiha's can be bested in something. God forbid they remain the end-all for the entire series.

As to giving up on it, I've seen far worse in the respect of character nature and/or development.

Mr. Wooden Alligator
11-16-2007, 04:27 PM
I admit that there were times I had nearly given up. After VOL 1-5 of the manga I skipped most of the chunnin stuff and jumped to the end in VOL 13 + 14, skipped 15 and went on to 16. Now things are getting interesting. :word:

---Morzan

Sloth7d
11-16-2007, 04:38 PM
So you skip most of the build up?

dr venture
11-16-2007, 05:08 PM
I admit that there were times I had nearly given up. After VOL 1-5 of the manga I skipped most of the chunnin stuff and jumped to the end in VOL 13 + 14, skipped 15 and went on to 16. Now things are getting interesting. :word:

---Morzan

Why did you do that???

Mr. Wooden Alligator
11-16-2007, 05:15 PM
Why did you do that???

It just seemed like a lot of fighting and flashbacks. I promise I'll start reading it properly with this Akatsuki business. Plus I've seen most of the anime episodes dealing with the build up.

---Morzan

dr venture
11-16-2007, 06:02 PM
Just read the latest chapter and Jiraiya is the man

uchiha_itachi
11-16-2007, 06:04 PM
spoilers?

Dorian Gray
11-16-2007, 06:09 PM
Kishimoto just gave the right powers and smarts to the wrong(*cough* Sasuke*cough*)characters :down: That is my major beef with it.

When I went into this series I was expecting a Vegeta/Goku relationship with naruto being the stronger fighting genius and Sasuke being the ever struggling weak emo

Dorian Gray
11-16-2007, 06:34 PM
Thank God the Uchiha's can be bested in something. God forbid they remain the end-all for the entire series.

As to giving up on it, I've seen far worse in the respect of character nature and/or development.

As have I, though What bothers me is.....both Sasuke and Naruto were trainied by Sanins yet Sasuke surpassed Orochimaru but Naruto has not Surpassed Jiraiya.

It's rather annoying.:csad:

Mistress Gluon
11-16-2007, 06:58 PM
To be fair, Orochimaru wasn't even up to half strength.

Mr. Wooden Alligator
11-16-2007, 07:02 PM
Just read the latest chapter and Jiraiya is the man

:up:

He's what got me back after my temporary hiatus.

---Morzan

oakzap425
11-16-2007, 07:08 PM
I don't think we've seen Naruto fight enough Post-time skip to know if he's surpassed Jiraiya or not.

Mistress Gluon
11-16-2007, 07:17 PM
That did rock all sorts of socks.

Sloth7d
11-16-2007, 09:12 PM
I don't think we've seen Naruto fight enough Post-time skip to know if he's surpassed Jiraiya or not.

Unless you count 4tails, which almost killed Jiraiya. But then again, he managed to seal the chakra away, so I guess that's still Jiraiya's win.

mystic gohan
11-16-2007, 09:17 PM
wow naruto went 4 tails the most i saw was 3 on shippuden and kakashi was so overwhlemed

mfbtl
11-16-2007, 10:56 PM
I thought Naruto only went 2 tails during the "Save Gaara" arc.

mystic gohan
11-16-2007, 11:04 PM
just afterwards whenthey was about to kill deidra i think he went 3 tails or atleast his third tail started to form

Sloth7d
11-16-2007, 11:15 PM
wow naruto went 4 tails the most i saw was 3 on shippuden and kakashi was so overwhlemed

Shipuuden hasn't gotten to the part about 4tails yet, but when they do... you'll be blown away.

dr venture
11-17-2007, 01:26 AM
just afterwards whenthey was about to kill deidra i think he went 3 tails or atleast his third tail started to form

I think it was only two

Dorian Gray
11-17-2007, 07:26 AM
I don't think we've seen Naruto fight enough Post-time skip to know if he's surpassed Jiraiya or not.

True, but still he's not uber intelligent like I want him to be. He's still just a chuckle head IMO.

mfbtl
11-17-2007, 10:42 AM
That's suppossed to be one of his "lovable" traits.

Genesis 1.0
11-17-2007, 11:35 AM
As have I, though What bothers me is.....both Sasuke and Naruto were trainied by Sanins yet Sasuke surpassed Orochimaru but Naruto has not Surpassed Jiraiya.

It's rather annoying.:csad:

Now THAT I agree with totally. Instead of Naruto being the true mainstay as he should be, he's always playing catch-up with Sasuke, which is rather backwards.

As to a loveable quality, determination and maybe a klutz and growing into a perv like Jiraiya, I could understand, but all out idiocy sometimes gets rather old.

Pain's impassive nature is starting to annoy me.

oakzap425
11-17-2007, 01:05 PM
Naruto can be immature sometimes, sure, but that doesn't make him stupid. He fights more with his feelings. A shinobi shows no emotion, but it hasn't hindered Naruto's fighting ability in the least. In fact, I think Naruto fights better when his emotions are a factor. (and technically, Sasuke fights the same way, but no one ever brings this up. His hatred for his Brother and the issues with the massacre of his clan are the driving forces for him to become stronger. Being an avenger stems from emotion, make no mistake about that.)

Until we see Naruto in a main fight, by himself, I still hold to the fact that we haven't even touched on what Naruto has learned while training with Jiraiya.

People are only considering Sasuke "uber" because we've seen him fight more than Naruto since post-time skip has started. Personally, if it weren't for the Sharingan, Sasuke would be nothing anyways. Sharingan is a hax power... and I hate it for that.


Gotta go back to work... will post more later.

Sloth7d
11-17-2007, 04:53 PM
I can deal with anyones hate of Sasuke but c'mon. You can say Sasuke is nothing without his sharingan, but then you'd have to say Neji is nothing without his byakugan, Naruto is nothing without his kyubi, Kimimaro is nothing with his kekkei genkai, ect.

oakzap425
11-17-2007, 06:07 PM
I can deal with anyones hate of Sasuke but c'mon. You can say Sasuke is nothing without his sharingan, but then you'd have to say Neji is nothing without his byakugan, Naruto is nothing without his kyubi, Kimimaro is nothing with his kekkei genkai, ect.

Damnit! I've ranted about this Kyuubi/Naruto thing before, for the love of God, stop comparing it to having a Damn Blood-line Limit! :mad:

I was a Sasuke fan, until I realized how much of a joke the Sharingan was. Post time skip Sasuke hasn't helped either...

edit: http://forums.superherohype.com/showpost.php?p=13130466&postcount=5088

Mistress Gluon
11-17-2007, 06:12 PM
As for Orochimaru being surpassed by Sasuke, we keep forgetting Jiraiya is at full power and perfectly healthy, where Orochimaru was dying, without even half his strength to draw upon.

oakzap425
11-17-2007, 06:13 PM
As for Orochimaru being surpassed by Sasuke, we keep forgetting Jiraiya is at full power and perfectly healthy, where Orochimaru was dying, without even half his strength to draw upon.

Well, Orochimaru was pretty much pushed back by 4-tails Naruto too. I do believe he still had the same host body from before.

Sloth7d
11-17-2007, 07:18 PM
Damnit! I've ranted about this Kyuubi/Naruto thing before, for the love of God, stop comparing it to having a Damn Blood-line Limit! :mad:


But it's comparable. Without it, would Naruto have beaten the opponents he's faced? Only one's I can think of is, Mizuke, Kiba, and a few canon fodder. You can't really say "so and so" is useless without "this trait" unless you point it out about everyone.

Lucy in the sky
11-17-2007, 09:10 PM
But it's comparable. Without it, would Naruto have beaten the opponents he's faced? Only one's I can think of is, Mizuke, Kiba, and a few canon fodder. You can't really say "so and so" is useless without "this trait" unless you point it out about everyone.

Tsunade would be worthless without her breasts. No one remembers her medical prowess it's always those:o

KalKai
11-17-2007, 09:38 PM
Naruto can be immature sometimes, sure, but that doesn't make him stupid. He fights more with his feelings. A shinobi shows no emotion, but it hasn't hindered Naruto's fighting ability in the least. In fact, I think Naruto fights better when his emotions are a factor. (and technically, Sasuke fights the same way, but no one ever brings this up. His hatred for his Brother and the issues with the massacre of his clan are the driving forces for him to become stronger. Being an avenger stems from emotion, make no mistake about that.)

Until we see Naruto in a main fight, by himself, I still hold to the fact that we haven't even touched on what Naruto has learned while training with Jiraiya.

People are only considering Sasuke "uber" because we've seen him fight more than Naruto since post-time skip has started. Personally, if it weren't for the Sharingan, Sasuke would be nothing anyways. Sharingan is a hax power... and I hate it for that.


Gotta go back to work... will post more later.

Naruto has had enough time to show us what he can & can't do, what he learned during those 2.5 years with Jiraiya, if he hasn't had his own fight yet he's obviously not ready & hasn't learned much, seeing as how he always needs bodyguards with him.

You saying Sharingan is a hax power? Kyuubi is 10x worse.

Jecht
11-17-2007, 09:41 PM
The Sharingan is arguably more powerful than the Kyuubi. See Madara Uchiha.

oakzap425
11-18-2007, 01:35 PM
I'm done...

I'm so sick of this "Naruto would be nothing with out the nine tails" crap.


I'm giving up on this thread. I'll read it, but I'm no longer commenting. I'll just talk to people (they know who they are) through pm. :o

Sloth7d
11-18-2007, 10:07 PM
Geez, don't run. Just hear me out.
It's not just Naruto. It's everyone.
If you take away their ability one could argue they're useless. I'm just saying, you can't say Sasuke is nothing without his sharingan without saying the next ninja is nothing without their trait. Though don't get me wrong.

Before using sharingan Sasuke was noted as being a genuis and could even keep up with Haku and some Zabuza clones with ease. Likewise, Naruto is also comented on being a genius without the fox chakra. Heck, once Orochimaru first saw him perform the rasengan he took him as a threat. But even though so, without their defining traits (sharingan, Kyubi, whatever) they would never have defeated some of the ridiculously powerful opponents that they did. In a sense, they'd be nothing since they would have died along time ago.

Twitch
11-19-2007, 06:32 AM
That may be true of Sasuke but not Naruto. Naruto would have grown to be an outstanding ninja without the aid of Kyubi. I mean look at Gara he was able to hang with an Akatsuki member without Shukaku.

NateGray
11-19-2007, 10:23 AM
You all are forgetting Naruto took out one of the immortal Akatsuki with three hearts or lives left by himself while Shikamaru took out the other also pretty much solo.
So yeh Sasuke took out Orochimaru at half strength or so and a full strength Deidra but would either of those stood up to the 5 heart immortal even at only 3 left? kinda doubt it.

NateGray
11-19-2007, 10:25 AM
Tsunade would be worthless without her breasts. No one remembers her medical prowess it's always those:o


QFMFT :oldrazz:

mfbtl
11-19-2007, 01:00 PM
I think Nate brings a good point. Of all the dead Akatsuki members Kakuzu was probably the strongest. Deidara was over hyped in my book, I think Sasori got the shaft by the story line or "lame plot jutsu", and Hidan could have been powerful if he had more than one technique. That being said Kakuzu could use all the chakra elements.

Sloth7d
11-19-2007, 08:26 PM
Between Deidara and Kakuzu? It really depends on who does what first. But if push comes to shove Deidara can always take Kakuzu with him.

NateGray
11-20-2007, 08:36 AM
Between Deidara and Kakuzu? It really depends on who does what first. But if push comes to shove Deidara can always take Kakuzu with him.

Yeh cause that worked so well with Sasuke or Kakashi and gang when they had him cornered.
I think Kakuzu with three hearts would whoop Deidara three ways from Sunday at least IMO anyways.

Genesis 1.0
11-20-2007, 12:24 PM
Without much real question Kakuzu pretty much overmatches Diedra, even with his explosion technique he wouldn't have been able to eliminate Kakuzu's three hearts. It'd be generous to say he could take out 2. Kakuzu's element maniuplation is just too good.

Jecht
11-20-2007, 06:47 PM
Kakashi had the Mangekyou and Sasuke is... Sasuke. Kakuzu doesn't have anything in his arsenal that could do anything to Deidara's final attack. I'm willing to bet he can't do **** to Deidara's microscopic C4 bombs either. And no, just because he has lightning doesn't make him immune, he has to diffuse it through his whole body first.

Sloth7d
11-20-2007, 11:12 PM
Yeh cause that worked so well with Sasuke or Kakashi and gang when they had him cornered.


Can Kakuzu warp deidara's explosion into another dimension?
Can Kakuzu summon Manda in under a second, use genjutsu on him, hidein his mouth and teleport away?

Kakuzu has good element control, but I saw nothing from him that rivals Deidara almost blowing up the hidden sand village, using C4, or self destructing across 10 square KM.

mfbtl
11-20-2007, 11:17 PM
I think he could over power him before he does any of that stuff.

Sloth7d
11-21-2007, 12:40 AM
It would be pretty hard since Deidara has aerial advantages and Kakuzu never struck me as being that fast.

NateGray
11-21-2007, 11:26 AM
It would be pretty hard since Deidara has aerial advantages and Kakuzu never struck me as being that fast.


He controls all 5 elements at full power as long as he has all 5 hearts and since elemental powers are said to be the top tier type powers yeh I think he would whoop Deidara as he is a Sr member and Deidara just became one when Sasori was killed.
He would not give Deidara a chance and we do not know the range he has it was never shown only implied he is a more advanced akatuski member than Deidara.
And again we never saw the full extent of his powers to say if he could have shrugged off Deidara's main attacks so we are just talking opinions here.

mfbtl
11-21-2007, 01:27 PM
P.S. Nate Deidara replaced Orochimaru and became Sasori's partner.

NateGray
11-21-2007, 01:59 PM
P.S. Nate Deidara replaced Orochimaru and became Sasori's partner.

I know that but we are just theorizing power levels and I have never felt Deidara's power was all that especially compared to the others we have seen.
Also the whole time Deidara was with Sasori he was a Jr member as evidenced by the way Sasori talked down to him they were not equals just like Kakuzu and his partner Kakuzu was the SR member at least thats the way it seemed to me with him talking down to him like Sasori did to Deidara.

Sloth7d
11-22-2007, 03:21 AM
He controls all 5 elements at full power as long as he has all 5 hearts and since elemental powers are said to be the top tier type powers yeh I think he would whoop Deidara as he is a Sr member and Deidara just became one when Sasori was killed.
He would not give Deidara a chance and we do not know the range he has it was never shown only implied he is a more advanced akatuski member than Deidara.
And again we never saw the full extent of his powers to say if he could have shrugged off Deidara's main attacks so we are just talking opinions here.

It doesn't really matter if he controls five elements since it's already been demonstrated that someone who doesn't control five of the six elements can beat him. We also can't speculate power too much on rank. Not to mention, just because he was Sasori's side-kick does not mean he would play side kick to Kakuzu. However, even if that were the case rank hardly determines power in Naruto. For instance, Naruto's still a chunin yet can beat jonin level ninja with his abilities.

It was also never implied that Kakuzu was superior to Deidara in any way. Not once. I'll also add that there is no way Kakuzu would survive C3, which would have destroyed Gaara's village had Gaara not stopped it. Ithink it's pretty luducris to believe Kakuzu has durability that high with the way Kakashi and Naruto destroyed some of his hearts. I'll lastly add that even if somehow he gets past Deidara's bombs, C4's microscopic assault would end him. Keep in mind this is all happening while Deidara is airborn and hard to hit. Sasuke had range, yet even he had trouble hitting Deidara in the sky. Kakuzu would lose this.

mfbtl
11-22-2007, 04:12 PM
Naruto is a Genin.

xGEMSKIx
11-23-2007, 07:11 PM
P.S. Nate Deidara replaced Orochimaru and became Sasori's partner.

why did orochimaru leave?

Jecht
11-23-2007, 07:36 PM
why did orochimaru leave?

Presumably, the sole reason he joined Akatsuki was to attain Itachi's Sharingan eyes. Seeing as how he got completely owned (which I don't understand, he should've put up more of a fight), he left.

xGEMSKIx
11-23-2007, 08:12 PM
thanks XD

mfbtl
11-23-2007, 09:15 PM
Sorry if I spoiled Gem.

dr venture
11-23-2007, 11:14 PM
Just read the latest chapter...........damn, that's all I have to say

Sloth7d
11-24-2007, 04:12 AM
Just read the latest chapter...........damn, that's all I have to say

Bye-bye Jiraiya. He did okay considering, but Pain seems to be immortal, super strong, super fast, and just plain superior.:csad:

Twitch
11-24-2007, 06:28 AM
Bye-bye Jiraiya. He did okay considering, but Pain seems to be immortal, super strong, super fast, and just plain superior.:csad:

I almost had a heart attack....can't wait for Naruto's reaction and if they're going to have a funeral scene.

Gotenks
11-24-2007, 03:33 PM
Noooooo! :csad:

X-Ray
11-24-2007, 04:12 PM
Bye-bye Jiraiya. He did okay considering, but Pain seems to be immortal, super strong, super fast, and just plain superior.:csad:

Hopefully he makes a run for it.

Jecht
11-24-2007, 05:09 PM
So...

Is Pein the Sage of Six Paths?

:confused:

Mr. Wooden Alligator
11-25-2007, 07:57 PM
Is it ever stated why Jiraiya, Tsunade, and Orochimaru are Legendary Sannin in the anime/manga?

---Morzan

mfbtl
11-25-2007, 08:42 PM
Is it ever stated why Jiraiya, Tsunade, and Orochimaru are Legendary Sannin in the anime/manga?

---Morzan
The story isn't as cool as you would think.
http://www.onemanga.com/Naruto/369/12/

NateGray
11-26-2007, 08:36 AM
Bye-bye Jiraiya. He did okay considering, but Pain seems to be immortal, super strong, super fast, and just plain superior.:csad:

I think they are going to take this route as well :( much as I think it sucks.:cmad:

The reason being is I suspect they are going to write it so that it takes Naruto Sasuke and Sakura working as a team to beat Pain and gang.

I suspect Itachi knew there would be something like this battle coming and knew he was not as strong as Sasuke could be hence why he left him alive.