Naruto

[FadingCB]

Just wondering is Naruto at the point where he could take Sasuke?

Without the elder frog Naruto can't summon sage chakra in battle (since you need to be still). If Naruto can find an opening and hide to summon it, I'd say he could take Sasuke. Sage chakra Jiraiya took on all of Pein's bodies at once, and managed to kill one. Sasuke on the other hand damn near blinded himself using Amaretsu once, and still didn't kill Killer Bee with it. He will only use it when he really, really has nothing else to do, hell it took him being 'killed' twice to pull it out (even then the demon fox cloak might neutralize it).

Now Naruto without sage chakra, he has improved a lot. In his fight with the Akatsuki with multiple hearts, he showed an improvement in his use of his shadowclones as distractions while waiting for an opening. His Futon Rasengan would kill Sasuke, but hurt himself as well. However I'd say Sasuke takes Naruto without sage chakra atm.

[YoungE808]

Without the elder frog Naruto can't summon sage chakra in battle (since you need to be still). If Naruto can find an opening and hide to summon it, I'd say he could take Sasuke. Sage chakra Jiraiya took on all of Pein's bodies at once, and managed to kill one. Sasuke on the other hand damn near blinded himself using Amaretsu once, and still didn't kill Killer Bee with it. He will only use it when he really, really has nothing else to do, hell it took him being 'killed' twice to pull it out (even then the demon fox cloak might neutralize it).

Now Naruto without sage chakra, he has improved a lot. In his fight with the Akatsuki with multiple hearts, he showed an improvement in his use of his shadowclones as distractions while waiting for an opening. His Futon Rasengan would kill Sasuke, but hurt himself as well. However I'd say Sasuke takes Naruto without sage chakra atm.


Nah, MS is all Sasuke has going for him right now. He'll continue to over use it.

[mfbtl]

In sage mode the Rasen Shuriken shouldn't hurt Naruto so much. Remember what the elder frog said about healing. We still don't know the full power of the MS. Sasuke just showed the ability to control Amaterasu maybe he can still do more? Maybe Naruto will be able to power up his Rasen Shuriken?

[X-Ray]

So much for Kakashi's Hope. I mean really, Chouji ? I like him but still, I would have prefer Gai & Lee or Neji. Oh well, it was still a good chapter overall. I'm glad we got to see the other fights that are happening. Back to Kakashi, it seems he has figured out a way to counter attack the God Realm Pein (the Nagato looking Pein). Whose powers works like a vacuum & a grass blower or whatever. :hehe:

[MoPlaYa43]

I hope Shino and Keba fight one of the peins

[Marvin]

naruto can't take on susake but everyone is looking forward to him stoping pien from destroying his city?

does that seem right to you?

guess that means if susake wanted he could kill pien and lead the black cloaks.

I've always believed it comes down to circumstance.
the ****ty thing about akatski is that they always have a power that catches our protagonists by surprise and thus half the fights are leaf ninja learning what not to do.
(poor asuma)

i love how the second time shika fought hidan, he smoked him so bad.

kakashi with his cunning will survive this

j-man knowing what he was going into would have survived and may have actually won...

not sure what i'm talking about anymore

all i know is that i'm so proud of kakashi right now

and of course

if the 4th was around today, ppl wouldn't mess around with konoha the way they do.

oh yea, why is it only naruto get's special training time and again?

why not have a whole village trying to learn sage mode? Honest question
or all the adults trying to learn rosengan?

lastly, gai is gonna hand to hand that one pien body to death, and if not him then sakura.

also, why has shino been shafted all this time?

[FadingCB]

Not even Jiraiya perfected sage mode tho. Both he, and apparently Naruto, can only use it in battle with the frog elder on their shoulder. Since sage mode requires one to be still while summoning it, it's useless to use mid fight.

As for rasengan, probably because it requires a decent amount of chakra, and good chakra control. Naruto only learned it thru determination, I doubt any regular Konoha citizen could even hope to learn it.

As for why always Naruto...he's the main char heh. Also he's the, 'chosen one'. Apparently he's picked up sage techniques faster than Jiraiya, and has alrdy completed the futon which not even the 4th or Kakashi completed. Naruto may be a goof, but he picks up on techniques fast (like learning kage bunshin in a few hours). Same with Goku, complete idiot, but learned techniques in days that take most martial artists in their respective worlds a lifetime to learn.

[Marvin]

your proubly right

it's just that at the same time he's the only one that gets the opportunity

i mean, all that talk of chakra control back when he was a kid and one
Sakura might have gotten the hang of it
and two, any grown up has about 10 the control young naruto did.
(eventho they did mention that it's an impossible technique)

summoning natural nrg from outside seems like it would have been so sweet for R. Lee
plus the toad tight jutsu.

it's good you mention goku, i fear that's where this type of character work began
i remember him getting to do all the fancy training a full saga before everyone else.

yes he was special, but it was just a spit in the face to see yamcha and tien on kai's planet during the cell saga lol
or using the time chamber after the fact...

[YoungE808]

Well, Naruto is the only one that gets that special training because \:

1. He has the frog contract and it seems that only him and Jiraiya use summoning frogs besides whoever summoned the frog that Danzou killed.

2. Naruto is a jinchuuriki so he needs to know how to protect himself since all the other ones are getting offed.

[kyuubijavi1]

naruto can't take on susake but everyone is looking forward to him stoping pien from destroying his city?

does that seem right to you?



Thats mostly cause Sasuke's been hyped to no end

hell look at all of his fights

Orochimaru - sick and a day away from dying only won cause of CS

Deidara - Sasuke had the elemental advantage and held onto Oro's powers and CS's powers

Itachi - He was sick, blind and wasnt even trying yet it still came down too CS and Orochimaru's powers to even last that long in the fight.

Killer Bee - He got owned and survived cause his team mates some how can magically heal all his wounds & while using the MS he still was only capable of capturing a tentacle.

Honestly Naruto vs Sasuke will just be for the money theres really nothing Sasuke can do against Naruto in his Sage form and Itachi left something behind for Naruto to counter Sasuke. So I fully expect that fight to be a elemental show down like that one chapter cover hinted at.

As for Naruto vs Pain to just really except that fight you gotta say damn Sage Mode is a huge ass boost, Jiriaya could of beaten Pain if he knew his secreat and Naruto will know that secreat plus he will perfect Sage Mode unlike Jiraiya. Either way I can really see Naruto beating the bodies much like Goku whooped the genyu force and then him having to face off against Nagato since nobody will know his secreats, his fighting style or his power that would be one hell of a fight imo.

[Marvin]

fire > wind

wind > lightning

i'm not a fan of the pokemon way of looking at things

but that's what it might come down to in the end

that being said susake has two of those elements
(cause he's a genius lol)

last time they fought sasuke only won cause naruto didn't go for the kill shot...

at some point i hope kishi goes back into history again like kakashi gaiden

there's so much untapped story potential in young jman vs oro and the first vs madara...

also, just like dragon ball at the end of the day, the series was so much more powerful when it was about grown ups
..we're almost there

[kyuubijavi1]

fire > wind

wind > lightning

i'm not a fan of the pokemon way of looking at things

but that's what it might come down to in the end

that being said susake has two of those elements
(cause he's a genius lol)

last time they fought sasuke only won cause naruto didn't go for the kill shot...

at some point i hope kishi goes back into history again like kakashi gaiden

there's so much untapped story potential in young jman vs oro and the first vs madara...

also, just like dragon ball at the end of the day, the series was so much more powerful when it was about grown ups
..we're almost there

When was the last time a fire attack ever hit any one in Naruto :hehe:

Only way Fire > Wind is if the attack is equal too or at a higher level than the wind jutsu.

FRS > all other jutsu's its claimed to be the ultimate jutsu and if Naruto did perfect it then he's pretty much secured god mode. Plus only real big fire attack Sasuke has is Amatseru all other's are ranked lower than B.

[X-Ray]

Well, Naruto is the only one that gets that special training because \:

1. He has the frog contract and it seems that only him and Jiraiya use summoning frogs besides whoever summoned the frog that Danzou killed.

2. Naruto is a jinchuuriki so he needs to know how to protect himself since all the other ones are getting offed.

It's just Jiraiya & Naruto. The messenger frog was left behind by Pa' Frog or whatever his name is that's currently training Naruto.

[Marvin]

the fourth seemed to have a good working relationship with boss toad

[YoungE808]

the fourth seemed to have a good working relationship with boss toad

I'm sure it was an option but he chose his own method of training.

[Marvin]

no i mean when he fought the 9tailed fox, he was on boss frog

i'm sure it wasn't summoned for him, otherwise jman would have been there.

[ironwez20]

anybody getting naruto ultimate ninja storm next tuesday.

[MoPlaYa43]

i want to get it...dunno if i`ll be able to or not

[Colossal Spoons]

I'm unsure what happened on those last few pages of the manga. Kakashi was getting sucked up, then what? :(

[Sloth7d]

He used substitution replacing himself with a raikiri clone. The raikiri clone was stabbed thus paralyzing Demon Pein. After that, Chouji's dad intereferred crushing Demon Pein with size expansion, further proof that any Akatsuki who takes off his cloak is doomed. The issue ended with Kakashi ducked under some rubble mentioning that he stored up his chakra for this fight.

[Colossal Spoons]

Thank you sir

[MoPlaYa43]

sweet avy CS

[Colossal Spoons]

Thanks dood, I'm really diggin Pein

[Sloth7d]

He is pretty awesome right now. So is Kakashi.

[Colossal Spoons]

I'm kinda over Kakashi. All about Pein and Neji for me. And I'm kinda startin to dig Naruto. Hated him before.

[MoPlaYa43]

I have always liked Naruto, Shikamaru, and Shino here.... Rock Lee, Neji and Kiba are bad ass too though

[Sloth7d]

Ironically, I was never into Kakashi like others were before, but now that his finally living up to his 1000 jutsu hype, I'm starting to dig him.

[YoungE808]

Indeed but it looks like he's getting a bit close to biting the bullet in the next manga chapter. Then again, there were no flashbacks so he's probably safe for now.

[mfbtl]

Awesome.

[X-Ray]

Indeed but it looks like he's getting a bit close to biting the bullet in the next manga chapter. Then again, there were no flashbacks so he's probably safe for now.

That's what I'm betting on. No flashback, no death.

But it seems that Kakashi does take a hit from the nail. So I'm thinking Pein took out his sharingan.

[FadingCB]

Ironically, I was never into Kakashi like others were before, but now that his finally living up to his 1000 jutsu hype, I'm starting to dig him.

I'm the opposite. I mean I still like Kakashi, but he's getting too friendly if that makes any sense. He was badass as the distant, quiet, calm and cool teacher. Now Naruto's caught up to him in strength, and he seems to be losing that mysterious badass persona. I do agree in liking that we're seeing more and more of his techniques, to the point where it's not just baseless bragging but fact.

[Colossal Spoons]

Not lookin too good for Kakashi.....or his eye

[oakzap425]

Nail is definitely heading for the Sharingan Eye.

[YoungE808]

I'm hoping that without his eye, he'll have his full chakra which would be overwhelming since his sharingan drained it all the time.

[FadingCB]

Just finished reading the newest one, and think you guys are right. There was definitely blood splatter. However something might be up, he said he couldn't dodge at that range out loud rather than think it. Which might be him saying it to trick Pein, with what I'm not sure.

Tho on the other hand I expect Kakashi to die, so it very well could be what it looked like. Tho if he does survive and just loses an eye, it's really the same difference. He mentioned going blind to Itachi because of the Mangekyou Sharingan. So one way or another that Sharingan eye probably wouldn't have been much use for too much longer anyway.

[YoungE808]

He won't die. No flashbacks, no death.

I don't think he said it loud...if they made the text small like to the point where we would assume that he was whispering, it would be too small to read.

[oakzap425]

He won't die. No flashbacks, no death.

I don't think he said it loud...if they made the text small like to the point where we would assume that he was whispering, it would be too small to read.

Well, Kishimoto has never done that, as ar as I've seen. Usually the font changes.


As for losing the Sharingan, and gaining chakra. We don't have any knowedge of what his base chakra is prior to the Sharingan-implant. Plus, I don't think you just get a surge of chakra like that, once a blocker is taken off. I'm sure he'd better use of his chakra, but I'm pretty sure he'd have to build that chakra back up.

At leas that seems like common sense.

[uchiha_itachi]

anyone notice the little line at the bottom of the page saying "look closely"? somthing is not as it seems. i think kakashi still has a trick up his sleeve

[Marvin]

Thanks dood, I'm really diggin Pein

nice pic

gotta admit i'm hating pein more than anyone in the history of the show at this point

not cause he killed jman or maybe even kman

but cause of his approach
it seems like if anyone figures out his secret he's done, while other ppl fight with their secrets out in the open.

there was a picture once of the original 6paths sage, a guy who invented ninjutsu, i imagine that guy fighting his own fights and kicking ass till the cows come home...in a tangible way

this pein seems like he brings his gang around with their shared vision, repels attacks before they hit(god realm and that other one), steals bodies and uses their prowess to his ends, and has bodies jump in front of attacks to save his favorite bodies life...

it's boarding on majin buu like shamelessness, at least Oro, is present during the fights.

If only Jman knew...

I hope Kakashi avenges his sensei's master.

-and he will, he'll destroy these bodies, and the village will be ravaged...Tsunade will be out of commission or killed, danzo will take over cause no one will challenge him untill naruto returns as a man and inspiration...Guy will have some cool save the day action...

and Pein will turn to the dead body of J-Man...just in time for Naruto to go one on one.

that's my word!

[Marvin]

oh yea, and it's a safe bet that nail is going to end up in another dimension...

if not, that sai, with an ink creature

[Colossal Spoons]

Your predictions are all pretty likely :up:

[YoungE808]

Pein as Jiraiya would disgrace the J-Man's legacy.

[Colossal Spoons]

But it would be enough to push Naruto over the end. Which could lead to him doing something badass with his sage chakra or relying on the kyuubi and nearly killing himself.

[Marvin]

writing wise

the main reason naruto is all about taking peins head right now is cause of that one kill

"I'm going to avenge that pervy sage"

for Pein to use the Jman body is an opportunity that i don't think Kishi will pass on.

there are other reasons

-the link between the two potential "kid of prophecy" is the jman
-the fact that Pein can and does use bodies he kills to fight
-the fact that the all powerfull naruto would have a hard time hitting his masters body
-how bad ass the jman will look with the pein look

-fans want to see the Jman live and walking again, this would be a perversion yes, but he would be back
-his personal summons and all.

it's happening...and naruto is the only one that would be able to stand up to it

the only question is if Jman will be able to do sage mode or not
natural realm lol

[Sloth7d]

Wouldn't Jiraiya's body lose all of it's abilities depending on what Pein incarnation he becomes though? It seems rather pointless.

[Colossal Spoons]

It'd be more of a visual thing

[mfbtl]

If he was "alive" he wouldn't be able to use sage mode because the frogs wouldn't do the fusion. Plus the visual wouldn't equal the real power of the sage mode.

[Marvin]

sage mode might be a stretch...

keep in mind he did die in it so his body could still be infused with natural chakra

but i'm under the impression that all the bodies he's taken have kept their abilities
the missile guy being the obvious one

they just get the addition of the realm possessing them
other wise why did pein need to switch to a body that he said he would need to kill Jman

...

anyways more with the predictions..

this series will end with naruto defeating pein and rendering akatuksi inert...madara will survive cause thats what he does.

danzo will be hokage(it's a stretch), cause he's the most capable and the only one left with the credentials

Kakashi is a jounin and he's needed on missions, plus only the fourth and perhaps Garra were the only other ninja to become kages at that level...this is all of course depending of if Tsunade dies...
-the Sanin are being wiped out tho
-still maybe she'll live long enough to see goth Jman

the fate of the Hokage really is up in the air right now and that prediction is grain of salt worthy

With Akatski gone, that will end the saga and trigger a time skip

and then finally our heroes are grown ups...and just like DBZ it will be the period that is honored the most for years to come.

it will focus on naruto's battle and or acceptance of the Demon fox, he'll encounter Killerbee

the saga will be named after either the fox, or naruto's new element(ala the previous saga)
the element will be water
-his mother had water
-it would balance out him and sasuke. {water >fire >wind > lighting >water}

Konoha will be in it's worst condition ever, not just because of the physical damage, but because of who is in charge

and it will be all about a grown Naruto inspiring change and ending with him as hokage.
or maybe he will follow his sanin master's footsteps and travel the world kicking ass helping ppl along the way...
it would complete his character arc of wanting hokage that bad and then getting past it.

Sasuke fits in there somewhere but i guess i just hate him too much to think about it
my best guess is that he confronts madara for top uchiha...
and Kakashi fits in there somewhere cause of the whole obito situation.
(spacial jutsu he stole from the fourth, in fact they both have the fourths time spacial abilities in away)

I hope Shino finally stops getting shafted tho.

I look forward to the village's new set of Jounin's
Shika and Neji and even Rock Lee...

my two cents on the future of things...

[YoungE808]

Hmmm...in the series they keep talking about generations. The first being the generation of the First/Second Hokage and Madara, the second being of the Third Hokage, the third being of the Sannin, the fourth being of Yondaime/Kakashi and the rest of the team leaders, and finally the fifth generation comprised of Naruto, Sasuke, Sakura, and the other teams.

Of course each generation had a Hokage of the previous generation right? So Tsunade will die eventually, possibly in battle and Kakashi will take over as the 6th Hokage. His sharingan will be destroyed though in the next chapter by that nail.

[X-Ray]

So much for that ......

Looks like Kakashi MS the nail.

[Colossal Spoons]

What a confusing issue. What the heck are all those people doing around that brain? I'm assuming they're reading the mind of one of Pein's bodies.

Kakashi's last trick was quite underwhelming :dry:

[Marvin]

i knew it

the only question was why didn't he use it on pein from the beginning

[X-Ray]

What a confusing issue. What the heck are all those people doing around that brain? I'm assuming they're reading the mind of one of Pein's bodies.

Kakashi's last trick was quite underwhelming :dry:

We're basically seeing things from the view of the Rain-nin that Jiraiya captured. The Konoha-mind readers are seeing different moments of the dude's life.

- One guy sees him gambling with other Rain-nins.

- One guy sees him having a drink with a fellow Rain-nin.

- Ino's dad sees him carrying a dead body over to Pein's tower. Looking at what is being said. It seems the real Pein is in that tower. And the new Pein body, the female, was one of 2 bodies being delivered that day. They can now build on that and invade Rain & infiltrate this tower.

[MoPlaYa43]

It sucks we gotta wait 2 weeks for the next issue. :(

[Colossal Spoons]

Ew, why?

Thanks for the explanation btw, X-Ray :up:

[Phenomenal]

It sucks we gotta wait 2 weeks for the next issue. :(

Yeah, Kishimoto is working on upcoming chapters.
Chouji's dad was said to be dead.
Kakashi seems like he is gonna die.
Konoha is incredibly close to figuring out Pain's secret [Along with Chouji letting Tsunade know the power of Deva Pain]!

[Corinthian™]

Wow, I still hold the second place on the posting in this thread. Wonderful


By the way, so sad to see Kakashi die

[MoPlaYa43]

I am watching Naruto Uncut volume 1 from the beggining...I have 1-10

[Magma_15]

sakura is going to flip the hell out.

[MoPlaYa43]

I cant wait until thursday night!!

[YoungE808]

Haha more like Wednesday

[zhulok]

Hello i dont usually come on here because i know that you guys talk alot about the manga and i dont want to get anything spoiled (unfortanetely i saw the spoiler on kakashi dammit lol) and i only watch the show. I am currently caught up on Shippuden and had a few questions for those who read the manga.

Okay
1. From where shippuden is how far ahead is the manga? And any guesses on how long it will be for shippuden to get to where the manga is now.

(Possible Spoilers Ahead, well it could be spoilers to someone.)
2. For a long time i had always thought the 4th hokage was Narutos dad and i now know that this was confirmed in the manga. I was wondering how long ago was it confirmed (days, months, years?) and based on where shippuden is when will it be confirmed on the show? Obviousely it would be impossible to tell me an exact length of time for this but any guesses would be good.

Thank you and any help would be appreciated.

[X-Ray]

Hello i dont usually come on here because i know that you guys talk alot about the manga and i dont want to get anything spoiled (unfortanetely i saw the spoiler on kakashi dammit lol) and i only watch the show. I am currently caught up on Shippuden and had a few questions for those who read the manga.

Okay
1. From where shippuden is how far ahead is the manga? And any guesses on how long it will be for shippuden to get to where the manga is now.

(Possible Spoilers Ahead, well it could be spoilers to someone.)
2. For a long time i had always thought the 4th hokage was Narutos dad and i now know that this was confirmed in the manga. I was wondering how long ago was it confirmed (days, months, years?) and based on where shippuden is when will it be confirmed on the show? Obviousely it would be impossible to tell me an exact length of time for this but any guesses would be good.

Thank you and any help would be appreciated.

1. There's actually a huge gap between where the two (anime & manga) currently stand. Think years when thinking of how long before the anime catches up. I say 3 to 4 years once you factor in the holidays & random breaks they usually take during the springtime. And the fact that the studio tends to throw in ******** to slow down the pacing.

2. Not impossible if you know where to search. August 24, 2007; Chapter 367; pages 11-12. In a year & half to almost 2 years from now we'll see it animated. :o

[zhulok]

Thank you very much that was very helpful.:yay:

[Bugz]

(unfortanetely i saw the spoiler on kakashi dammit lol)


that didn't really happen. lol:oldrazz:

we won't know till this week.

[Marvin]

1. There's actually a huge gap between where the two (anime & manga) currently stand. Think years when thinking of how long before the anime catches up. I say 3 to 4 years once you factor in the holidays & random breaks they usually take during the springtime. And the fact that the studio tends to throw in ******** to slow down the pacing.

2. Not impossible if you know where to search. August 24, 2007; Chapter 367; pages 11-12. In a year & half to almost 2 years from now we'll see it animated. :o

not sure i agree

asuma"s death was about march 2007
and the anime just covered it

so maybe a year and a half give or take

good news (and bad news)

is that sasuke is next

(after fillers ofcourse)

[X-Ray]

not sure i agree

asuma"s death was about march 2007
and the anime just covered it

so maybe a year and a half give or take

good news (and bad news)

is that sasuke is next

(after fillers ofcourse)

5 to 6 months of anime is dedicated to a certain arc/chapters. The Hidan/Kakazu bit started in August so they should finally wrap things up in early to mid January. Afterward it's ...

5-6 months for Sasuke's power trip.
5-6 months for Jiraiya's journey down 6 Path.
6-8 months for Sasuke again including the Madara/Tobi scenes.
5-6 months for Sasuke again before finally reaching where we're currently at.

There's 2 years & some months right there. So I say early to mid 2011 the anime reaches the current chapter/arc. Throw in filler arcs (for some dumb studio reason to milk it for what it's worth), holidays & the random breaks. It'll take us to fall 2011 or early 2012. So yah, 3 years for that & a year & half for the 4th hokage confirmation thing.

[FadingCB]

There's no excuse for it either, the manga is so far ahead of the anime it's not funny. There is no reason to dwell on Asuma for 2 specials, and 2 xtra episodes after, ALL filled with flashbacks to the same crap. The manga arc on this was touching, the anime soured me on the arc and wanted it to just move on.

They really need to speed up the anime. The animes pacing turned me to the manga, for that I'm greatful I guess, but now that I've seen the manga, I know what the anime could be and it dissapoints me that it's not that.

I'd rather they take the current Bleach route and jump right into the story, if they catch up, just do some filler, maybe the Kakashi Gaiden. Right now they're so far behind and still showing extra filler arcs, and making everything drag out. I have a feeling they want Naruto to still be going in 20 years at this pace.

[Spidey0]

Manga chapter posted very early on onemanga.com

[X-Ray]

Impressive showing by ANBU.

And somewhat of a aww moment between Kakashi and his dad catching up. :csad:

[dr venture]

They're doing Kakashi Gaiden finally

[dr venture]

Dammit I thought it was animated, someone just uploaded the manga on youtube ****

[uchiha_itachi]

man im slightly worried bout the flash back... lol

[FadingCB]

I think this is a moment where I'm going to be stubborn and say Kakashi didn't die. I mean he had a touching life flashing before your eyes, meeting dead relatives moment. However it was just too anti climatic. I expected 2 big names to die off (Tsunade, and either Kakashi or Guy), but that was just too quite of a death for Kakashi. If anything he finished himself off, even if it was to save Choji. So I'm going to hold onto the idea that one of Tsunade's slugs reaches him in time, despite for all intents and purposes it's looking like he's dead.

Also....looking like the abilities stay the same despite who the body is. Does this mean it's a splitting of Pein inside each body or something? Or does he just have a stock pile of summoners to replace fallen ones? I have a feeling that that's a big hint, but I still don't get Pein's secret. In fact I have a feeling a big hint was dropped that we all overlooked, and when the reveal is made there will be a collective, "Ooohhh, that's why".

[Marvin]

I recall my earlier claims

Kakashi isn't going anywhere, Pein's kills are Jiraiya, and countless leaf nin...to have someone kill off 5 signicant people would diminish the worth of each person by 5.

Kakashi will be killed by someone that will claim all the pathos gained by taking kakashi and no one else

like the way hidan and asuma had a clarity and it was funneled through Shikamaru.

Kakashi needs to see obito/madara, plus he needs to see sasuke, and the new naruto.

Besides, all this talk of flashbacks meaning death isn't all true, ppl have flash backs all the time, it doesn't mean their going to die
It's just Kishi's way of giving someone some limelight and air time
ie
Rock Lee
Garra
Ino
Naruto
Sasuke

all got flashbacks and they seem to be doing well

Itachi/kimmimaru/Haku
were all bad guys and it was kinda evident

Asuma and Jiraiya yes, but honestly they didn't just get flash backs, they had chapters where they were the main theme/focus from the get go

Kakashi just just up a few pages ago, it's too random

hopefully that all made sense, i'm animating as we speak

shippudden is so great right now
the manga is good too, but that last issue was pointless, cept to set up who Peins next summoner body will be hint hint

[FadingCB]

One question, this is a big if, but if Jiraiya became a new Pein summoner somehow, would that even work? From what I gathered the Big Boss Frog Gamabunta (that's his name right?) doesn't necessarily take orders from anyone if he doesn't want to. I couldn't see Gamabunta summoned and told to kill, let's say Naruto or Tsunade, and actually doing it. All of the smaller frogs also seem intelligent, and I doubt they'd just blindly kill innocents or friends just because of who summoned them.

Of course on the other hand Jiraiya fits none of the other Pein types abilities as well as summoning from what I've seen. I do have a feeling tho Jiraiya will be used, I doubt Peins the type to hold Jiraiya's body on some untouchable sacred level knowing how powerful he was.

[uchiha_itachi]

i dont think it works liek that tbh. the spare bodies arn't stockpiled in particular groups. i think they just fill in the needed slots. specially since peins summons are so powerful there obviously his and not the hosts

[YoungE808]

I recall my earlier claims

Kakashi isn't going anywhere, Pein's kills are Jiraiya, and countless leaf nin...to have someone kill off 5 signicant people would diminish the worth of each person by 5.

Kakashi will be killed by someone that will claim all the pathos gained by taking kakashi and no one else

like the way hidan and asuma had a clarity and it was funneled through Shikamaru.

Kakashi needs to see obito/madara, plus he needs to see sasuke, and the new naruto.

Besides, all this talk of flashbacks meaning death isn't all true, ppl have flash backs all the time, it doesn't mean their going to die
It's just Kishi's way of giving someone some limelight and air time
ie
Rock Lee
Garra
Ino
Naruto
Sasuke

all got flashbacks and they seem to be doing well

Itachi/kimmimaru/Haku
were all bad guys and it was kinda evident

Asuma and Jiraiya yes, but honestly they didn't just get flash backs, they had chapters where they were the main theme/focus from the get go

Kakashi just just up a few pages ago, it's too random

hopefully that all made sense, i'm animating as we speak

shippudden is so great right now
the manga is good too, but that last issue was pointless, cept to set up who Peins next summoner body will be hint hint


Agreed.

[Marvin]

One question, this is a big if, but if Jiraiya became a new Pein summoner somehow, would that even work? From what I gathered the Big Boss Frog Gamabunta (that's his name right?) doesn't necessarily take orders from anyone if he doesn't want to. I couldn't see Gamabunta summoned and told to kill, let's say Naruto or Tsunade, and actually doing it. All of the smaller frogs also seem intelligent, and I doubt they'd just blindly kill innocents or friends just because of who summoned them.

Of course on the other hand Jiraiya fits none of the other Pein types abilities as well as summoning from what I've seen. I do have a feeling tho Jiraiya will be used, I doubt Peins the type to hold Jiraiya's body on some untouchable sacred level knowing how powerful he was.

if you notice peins summons, they have the swirly eyes too

[MoPlaYa43]

I think Konohamaru will find a way to find Naruto in the next chapter.

[X-Ray]

I think Konohamaru will find a way to find Naruto in the next chapter.

Unless he knows how to summon anything. It'll be a 3 month long hike to mount whatever the name is. :o

[mfbtl]

Yeah that would only work if he had something else up his sleeve.

[MoPlaYa43]

I just have a gut feeling he will find a way to bring Naruto back

[uchiha_itachi]

i have a gut feeling they might kill him off. but would he have the balls?


EDIT: actually i reckon he's gonna be in serious trouble then naruto is gonna save his ass.

[mfbtl]

I think it would be better (story wise) if he got killed right as Naruto got there.

[uchiha_itachi]

it would be. by the looks of things naruto is going be seriously powered up by the time he gets back.

hopfully by the tme he fights sasuke again he will know some of his dads abilitys

[FadingCB]

if you notice peins summons, they have the swirly eyes too

Point taken.

As for Naruto, I doubt he makes it back during the Pein fight. Apparently he can't connect with the elder frog like Jiraiya did, so he's going to have to find a way to use it before going back to Konoha, meaning more training.

I'm sticking with Pein killing, or almost killing Tsunade. If he doesn't, then Danzo does. I'm guessing Naruto returns to a nearly destroyed, and probably Root lockdowned Konoha. Somehow Konohamru tells Naruto about how things went down. I'm also guessing to protect Sasuke's image, he arrives and ends up helping liberate Konoha while begrudgingly working with Naruto. That way Sasuke can keep his promise of getting even, and actually do good while doing so. I know he said it, but I doubt the author will really let Sasuke go full killer and slaughter innocent Konoha citizens. I don't see any other reason for Danzo's coup de ta atm. Pein will prob be saved for later.

[mfbtl]

I can't believe I have forgotten about Danzo.

[FadingCB]

Just read the newest chapter, I guess it's more of a question IF Konohamaru lives (I'm sure he will, but still lol) to tell Naruto everything. It was obvious he had some role to play since they kept showing him hiding, I just didn't think it was so he would fight one of the Pein's. Konohamaru is weaker than Naruto before he learned Kage Bunshin I'm guessing, tho apparently Naruto did teach him some technique. Konohamaru's gonna get slaughtered, wonder who saves his ass?

[MoPlaYa43]

I`ve been waiting a long time to see Konohamaru fight..I`m sure he will get ownt by pein but hopefully he has at least one trick up is sleeve.. I thought for sure Ebisu would die...Naruto wont return for at least 3 more chapters im guessing

[uchiha_itachi]

im pretty sure the only thing naruto taught him was that sexy jutsu lol

[FadingCB]

Just for others reactions I googled Konohamaru vs. Pein, and while some comments made me crack up, others made me sad that ppl are actually taking this serious. Some ppl are actually expecting a good fight, or for him to summon the monkey the 3rd summoned against Oro. If Kakashi couldn't take out a Pein body (even tho there probably is a big power difference inbetween the Pein Kono's taking on and the one Kakashi did), Konohamaru's still a weakling.

He's a wannabe Naruto, minus the huge chakra pool and personal drive. Possibly Naruto taught Konohamaru how to do a rasengan with shadow clones....possibly, even then Konohamaru probably only has the chakra to do a weak version once.

My guess is Konohamaru pulls out a rasengan and shocks everyone, but it doesn't hurt Pein. Pein shrugs it off, and just before he kills Konohamaru for annoying him, another char shows up and saves Konohamaru. We still haven't seen Guy, Rock, Neji, Shino, etc.

[MoPlaYa43]

I think Ebisu will die not Konohamaru... I think it would be cool if Konohamaru could summon the monkey that the 3rd Hogake summoned during his last fight with Oro. I dont think he will do the Rasengan, maybe shadow clones.

[mfbtl]

Maybe a couple of clones, but not the mass shadow clone technique. I seriously doubt Konohamaru has that king of power.

[MoPlaYa43]

Yeah probably 3 clones tops...Or maybe he will hit pein with the sexy justu...lol

[X-Ray]

Just for others reactions I googled Konohamaru vs. Pein, and while some comments made me crack up, others made me sad that ppl are actually taking this serious. Some ppl are actually expecting a good fight, or for him to summon the monkey the 3rd summoned against Oro. If Kakashi couldn't take out a Pein body (even tho there probably is a big power difference inbetween the Pein Kono's taking on and the one Kakashi did), Konohamaru's still a weakling.

He's a wannabe Naruto, minus the huge chakra pool and personal drive. Possibly Naruto taught Konohamaru how to do a rasengan with shadow clones....possibly, even then Konohamaru probably only has the chakra to do a weak version once.

My guess is Konohamaru pulls out a rasengan and shocks everyone, but it doesn't hurt Pein. Pein shrugs it off, and just before he kills Konohamaru for annoying him, another char shows up and saves Konohamaru. We still haven't seen Guy, Rock, Neji, Shino, etc.

If he pulls a rasengan, in any form. That technique is officially a joke.

As for who would come rescue his ass. I see his teammates arriving first before Gai or any others arrive to save their asses.

[Bugz]

it would be funny if Konohamaru becomes a Pain body.lol

[YoungE808]

Watch the little kid come out of nowhere with Mokuton.

[TankerX]

If he pulls a rasengan, in any form. That technique is officially a joke.


I agree, plus Jiriaya himself said it took the Fourth years to master the technique and Naruto had quite a large advantage as he was able to channel some of his nine-tails chakra (correct me if i'm wrong) in order to help him develop the technique, so i'm very much doubting that Naruto would have had the time to teach Konohamaru Rasengan seeing as he's been training for the majority of the time he's been in Konoha post-timeskip.

If anyone is going to rescue Konohamaru, which - lets face it - probably will happen, it'll be a enfuriated Chouji crossing paths with him on the way to Tsunade. That's my prediction anyway, as far Naruto I agree with MoPlaYa43, he'll more than likely return in a couple of chapters - it's a tad bit too early just now, judging from previous experiences with this delightful manga.

What i'm curious about is, where the hell is Neji or Team Guy for that matter?

[mfbtl]

Watch the little kid come out of nowhere with Mokuton.

Wrong bloodline. Where is team Gai. All we have seen is "team Asuma".

[FadingCB]

If he pulls a rasengan, in any form. That technique is officially a joke.

As for who would come rescue his ass. I see his teammates arriving first before Gai or any others arrive to save their asses.

Rasengan is alrdy the Kamehameha of Naruto. The 4th, Jiraiya, Naruto, and even Kakashi already use it. I wouldn't be suprised to see Sasuke, or Orochimaru able to use it as well. I'm not saying I'd like to see Konohamaru use it, but what other techniques would Naruto have taught Konohamaru to use that we haven't seen yet from him? Konohamaru is taking this too serious to use harem, and hasn't he alrdy used shadow clones? Either way, I agree that Kono doing it would make the move a joke, but I wouldn't be entirely surprised if he did.

[FadingCB]

I think Ebisu will die not Konohamaru... I think it would be cool if Konohamaru could summon the monkey that the 3rd Hogake summoned during his last fight with Oro. I dont think he will do the Rasengan, maybe shadow clones.

Honestly, I'd hate it if he summoned the monkey more than if he did rasengan. That monkey helped out a lot against Oro. If it's passed thru the family, then Asuma should have used it.

Either way, the thought of Konohamaru using hokage level techniques...ugh. It won't make me want to toss something, or even type an angry post or kick a kitten....but I def am hoping Konohamaru doesn't actually put up a fight. When Choji's dad, and possibly Kakashi are taken out by Pein, maybe Tsunade, and a ton of others...for Kono to put up a good fight...just would be messed up IMO.

[YoungE808]

Wrong bloodline. Where is team Gai. All we have seen is "team Asuma".

I know, it was a just kidding thing. I think their showing Team Asuma just to kill off the senior InoShikaCho.

[Marvin]

where's shino's team? they were in the village

where's shika, he was like a block away

where's gai's team, they live there

team ino breaks up and meets up again and no one else can show up...

I'm just curious why the story is dragging, it seems more than usual. For example, Shizune(sp) and her pals have been running around pretending to figure stuff out but really they never do...
I almost laughed when i thought we were finally going to get the pay off of Jmans code this chapter, only to have it be naruto interpreting it as don't give up?
yea cause naruto would have otherwise.

on the plus side i do think it's about time kishi gives us the pay off to jman's training of naruto
cause up until now, that whole thing was mis handled. when oro took sasuke he f#%king trained his ass, mentally and physically, with naruto and jman, he came back taller, a different suit, a slightly bigger rasengan and less control of the fox...

even all the sage stuff that should have been jman passing on to his student is done by someone else

the initial rasengan i suppose, but that wasn't his to teach...anyways
I'm glad that for all his lacking to teach on the technical level he can make up for in the inspiration department

thats something oro can never do.

as for everyone acting like naruto is the only person strong enough to do anything about the mess that's happening in the village?
it just make no sense to me

first of all these pein bodies aren't him (in all his glory), they're just bodies that have a certain skill and can see as one
Kakashi pretty much undressed two of them but ofcourse they cheated(again lol)

anyone with the will of fire and the right circumstances can take them out
team gai for example

but kishi isn't letting that happen, for some reason
instead pein is getting a walk in the park
and he's fighting a sole jounin with with a low as hell chakra reserve who for some reason never just ends his fights with his ms from the get go.

back to the point tho
naruto for all his raw power, and will

would still lose to kakashi 4 out of 5 times

he hasn't even come close to surpassing jman (the war vet)

jman was not just about this sage mode and now that naruto has it he's stronger than him.

jman was a summoning god
and a smart man the age of 50

i don't see naruto being strong in the same way jman was

ie
fire mountain toad summoning

personally the reason I think naruto is so strong is cause at any moment the fox could take over and then only oro can stand up to him hahaha

[MoPlaYa43]

Honestly, I'd hate it if he summoned the monkey more than if he did rasengan. That monkey helped out a lot against Oro. If it's passed thru the family, then Asuma should have used it.

Either way, the thought of Konohamaru using hokage level techniques...ugh. It won't make me want to toss something, or even type an angry post or kick a kitten....but I def am hoping Konohamaru doesn't actually put up a fight. When Choji's dad, and possibly Kakashi are taken out by Pein, maybe Tsunade, and a ton of others...for Kono to put up a good fight...just would be messed up IMO.

I think Konohamaru will put up a good fight against Pein but I think he will do something to distract him long enough for help to arrive

[Sloth7d]

The problem is, "Konohamaru" and "put up a good fight against Pein" should never be used in the same sentence, uless you ask, "Isn't it funny how Konohamaru got obliterated in a fraction of because he thought he could put up a good fight against Pein?"

[mfbtl]

Sloth I normally agree with you, but I think Marvin has a small point in that it is probably about time for the good guys to have a little momentum. I don't think Konohamaru will get close to winning, but I doubt Kishi will let him get obliterated (which he should) I think this will be kind of an underdog thing. I think he at least holds the guy off for a while.

[Sloth7d]

But even holding him off is kind of crazy unless Konohamaru got a serious power jump. I'm not against characters getting a time to shine. I'm glad that Pein was set up just exactly so that can happen. But come on. Konohamau? What? Really? If he can hold off a Pein body, anyone should be able to, yet everyone is dropping like flies.

[SatEL]

But even holding him off is kind of crazy unless Konohamaru got a serious power jump. I'm not against characters getting a time to shine. I'm glad that Pein was set up just exactly so that can happen. But come on. Konohamau? What? Really? If he can hold off a Pein body, anyone should be able to, yet everyone is dropping like flies.

His only going to hold of a Pein body long enough until someone else comes and saves him and Ebisu ass.

[FadingCB]

Exactly (to Sloth's post). At the beginning of Shippuuden Kono had trouble catching a cat just like Naruto pre Zabuza. However Kono doesn't have the 9 tail to help him. In other words he's worse than Zabuza fight Naruto. If Kakashi and Chouji's father are (possibly) killed by Pein, why would someone at the power level of a first arc character make a difference? It'd be like child Goku putting up a good fight against Cell or something.

I get the point that the hero's need a tide turner. However Pein's being set up as a bad ass atm, I doubt he's going to get beat down and sent packing. Pein's fight is a bit more realistic in seeing the village turn to rubble, and ppl die, it's similar to the chaos Oro caused, except Pein's doing it alone. I see the tide turner being the return of the other teams such as Gai's. I could see Konohamaru stalling (mainly with dialog) for half an issue possibly, but he shouldn't put up a fight in the least IMO, even tho Kishi probably will make this Kono's shining break out moment.

[kyuubijavi1]

where's shino's team? they were in the village

where's shika, he was like a block away

where's gai's team, they live there

team ino breaks up and meets up again and no one else can show up...

I'm just curious why the story is dragging, it seems more than usual. For example, Shizune(sp) and her pals have been running around pretending to figure stuff out but really they never do...
I almost laughed when i thought we were finally going to get the pay off of Jmans code this chapter, only to have it be naruto interpreting it as don't give up?
yea cause naruto would have otherwise.

Shino's team will mostlikely show up they where shown for a reason after all.

Gai's team is probably being saved if they fail once again there just going to look extreamly pathetic, they couldnt handle a 30% Kisame and they couldn't catch a armless Deidara.

Shikamaru might get some more development next chapter since Shizune's group where heading towards him. I think >.> if not I don't mind he did have a whole Arc centered around him.

As for the story its not really dragging, the Kakashi fight lasted way longer than it should of but everything else seems to be moving around nicely. 3 to 4 fights have been set up last chapter and other than that Kishi did take a week break.

Oh and for the secret that has been dragging on I mean its either stop the chakara from reaching the bodies or they find out the real deal aka Nagato's back at the rain village.



on the plus side i do think it's about time kishi gives us the pay off to jman's training of naruto
cause up until now, that whole thing was mis handled. when oro took sasuke he f#%king trained his ass, mentally and physically, with naruto and jman, he came back taller, a different suit, a slightly bigger rasengan and less control of the fox...

even all the sage stuff that should have been jman passing on to his student is done by someone else

the initial rasengan i suppose, but that wasn't his to teach...anyways
I'm glad that for all his lacking to teach on the technical level he can make up for in the inspiration department

thats something oro can never do.

Well remember the Gaara fight and Neji fight in both of those Naruto showed off what he's learned from Jiriaya not to mention the begining of Part two has pretty much kept Naruto in check..

Against Deidara, Kakashi was there and had to show off his move.
Against Oro it was more of showing off Kyuubi's affect.
Against Kakuzu it was showing off his new move.
Against the Itachi clone well Naruto couldnt out shine Itachi or it would of dehyped him so Kishi handled that one pretty well.

So I fully expect the Pain fight to show off everything he's learned from Jiraiya even if its just better summoning and what ever that new jutsu is.

For the Sasuke and Orochimaru thing I wouldnt take that to heart everything and I mean everything Sasuke's accomplished in part two has been thanks to Oro being inside of him along with CS plus its not that hard to win when all your opponites are handicapped.



as for everyone acting like naruto is the only person strong enough to do anything about the mess that's happening in the village?
it just make no sense to me

first of all these pein bodies aren't him (in all his glory), they're just bodies that have a certain skill and can see as one
Kakashi pretty much undressed two of them but ofcourse they cheated(again lol)

anyone with the will of fire and the right circumstances can take them out
team gai for example

but kishi isn't letting that happen, for some reason
instead pein is getting a walk in the park
and he's fighting a sole jounin with with a low as hell chakra reserve who for some reason never just ends his fights with his ms from the get go.

Eh Naruto's the only one capable of fighting Pain for the same reason Sasuke was the only one capable of fighting Itachi there fights are written in stone its going to happen, plus when Pain's capable of walking into Konoha and sending them all into a frenzy only your strongest ninja aka Naruto would have a ghost of a chance against him.

Pain's bodies are all highly leveled ranging from high junin to high kage hell Konoha's getting raped by 1/6th of his power. Kakashi stated it fairly simple alone he would stand no chance against Pain and even with 5+ ninja's as back up that didn't do jack squat to help him out. Now the will of fire thing come on when you got a guy that controlls gravity it would take alot more than possitive out look in life to defeat him. Hell team Gai would get raped so hard by Pain it wouldnt be funny 3 out of 4 of there fighters are Taijutsu specialist, Pain controlls gravity all he'd have to do is use his force push and bam all of them knocked out and we all know Ten Ten won't ever do anything usefull but hey maybe if they fight Ghost Relm they'd fair off better.



back to the point tho
naruto for all his raw power, and will

would still lose to kakashi 4 out of 5 times

he hasn't even come close to surpassing jman (the war vet)

jman was not just about this sage mode and now that naruto has it he's stronger than him.

jman was a summoning god
and a smart man the age of 50

i don't see naruto being strong in the same way jman was

ie
fire mountain toad summoning

personally the reason I think naruto is so strong is cause at any moment the fox could take over and then only oro can stand up to him hahaha

Naruto would destroy Kakashi so hard it wouldnt even be funny. Mass Kagebunshion and thats it a **** load of clones running around and Kakashi along with his ****** chakara would either A. tire himself out trying to find the real deal or B. just get hit after an opening appears. Not to mention Kakashi has no answer to Kyuubi and Naruto's summons.

Also I wouldnt take any of Naruto's part two fights seriously, the first one was to show off Kyuubi & the second was to show off his new move he hasn't used summoning once when they would of easily taken care of all his problems.

Oh and one last thing Minato did not take 4 years to master Rasengan it took him 3 years to create the jutsu and its pretty much well known that creating is not the same as learning.

[mfbtl]

But even holding him off is kind of crazy unless Konohamaru got a serious power jump. I'm not against characters getting a time to shine. I'm glad that Pein was set up just exactly so that can happen. But come on. Konohamau? What? Really? If he can hold off a Pein body, anyone should be able to, yet everyone is dropping like flies.

I know he is the last character I would have chosen for a situation like this, but he isn't key to the story so why go through the trouble of doing this? I'm not saying what I would do I'm saying what I think Kishi is about to do. I'd kill Konohamaru to piss off Naruto some more.

[MoPlaYa43]

Well Naruto will flip the F out when he returns to Konoha when he finds out its destroyed by Pein the guy who killed Jman..Then he sees Kakashi dead or close to it because of Pein, then he sees Konohamaru dead or hurt by Pein..

[kyuubijavi1]

Well Naruto will flip the F out when he returns to Konoha when he finds out its destroyed by Pein the guy who killed Jman..Then he sees Kakashi dead or close to it because of Pein, then he sees Konohamaru dead or hurt by Pein..

Yup, yup thats why I'm loving Pain's invasion its going to be a huge mind f**k on Naruto. If only Pain had a personality other than ***** I'll kill you, he'd become a much more popular villain.

[Marvin]

Shino's team will mostlikely show up they where shown for a reason after all.

that's great optimism on your part but that doesn't change that this chapter is paced in an obtuse way
for example if in 8 chapters from now they still haven't shown up, you could say the same thing, "soon, i'm sure of it" but that will still be a team that was shown in the village, that kishi doesn't want in the action yet, so he's freezing them in time so to speak, along with everyone else that could help

it's like sasuke being 10 steps from the village gate and it taking 20 chapters before he gets in. I understand, like in the past when Jman died, and Itachi, and naruto was fighting tobi and it was a plotting splice, same with when the third had his curse seal grabbing on oro and naruto kicked garra's ass, but to have all these characters sit just outside the village while pein makes so much progress destroying the city just doesn't seem like it fits spatially, they live in the village and he's going to destroy a huge percent of it without any of their involvement...naruto is out of town so he can show up later and that's fine, do all the plot splicing you wish with him...


Gai's team is probably being saved if they fail once again there just going to look extreamly pathetic, they couldnt handle a 30% Kisame and they couldn't catch a armless Deidara.

That's your take on why he's doing what he's doing, but it doesn't change the fact that he's doing it.
I'm just curious where thy are. not so much that they have been sucking as of late.

Shikamaru might get some more development next chapter since Shizune's group where heading towards him. I think >.> if not I don't mind he did have a whole Arc centered around him.

he looked out he window at the explosion and said, and i paraphrase, "I'm going to go and help my piazons"
how long it takes him to get 100 meters and the whole place being destroyed just doesn't seem right.
I agree with you he's been the star just a little too much, but if you take out the scene i just described that it's all good, but kishi is putting people in the face of the action and then not moving them.

As for the story its not really dragging, the Kakashi fight lasted way longer than it should of but everything else seems to be moving around nicely. 3 to 4 fights have been set up last chapter and other than that Kishi did take a week break.

Kakashi's was the only thing that was plotted smoothly, in fact it's because it was so short(see itachi/jman/3rd) that it's a guarantee he's not dying.

it's not kishi's break that makes things feel slow...it's 3 pages of progress of one subplot per week, i personally hate soap operas, if they just focused on one plot it wouldn't take three years to find out Ridge killed his uncle...
more then ever it seems kishi is splitting his chapters into too many sub plots and nothing moves forward...
that's the explanation for why everything feels slow(to answer my own question) I mean if all of the sage training was done in sequence, it would be about 2 chapters i think, instead it's like 2 months, but that's the nature of weekly mangas i suppose. Then again itachi got his ass kicked in one smooth sequence.

Oh and for the secret that has been dragging on I mean its either stop the chakara from reaching the bodies or they find out the real deal aka Nagato's back at the rain village.

good guess...I should take closure now cause kishi's never going to give it to me.
Man the way it was handled in this chapter, i feel like Kisame when he faught gai. "Oh i remember you...oh no i don't" Jman must be rolling in his grave.

Well remember the Gaara fight and Neji fight in both of those Naruto showed off what he's learned from Jiriaya not to mention the begining of Part two has pretty much kept Naruto in check..

that's true, he would have lost those fights had it not been for jmans "lessons"
I'm more irk'd about his 3 year intensive studies with jman. Thanks to what you just pointed out; I understand that he learned more in a few days when jman wasn't his master then in 3 years of traveling on a quest to prepare him(jmans words).

it really should have been Jman teaching him all about the sage mode..

"you wanna save/beat sasuke, well just like how i'm going to beat/save oro, i'll teach u hermit mode...allllright lol"

Against Deidara, Kakashi was there and had to show off his move.
Against Oro it was more of showing off Kyuubi's affect.
Against Kakuzu it was showing off his new move.
Against the Itachi clone well Naruto couldnt out shine Itachi or it would of dehyped him so Kishi handled that one pretty well.

So I fully expect the Pain fight to show off everything he's learned from Jiraiya even if its just better summoning and what ever that new jutsu is.

For the Sasuke and Orochimaru thing I wouldnt take that to heart everything and I mean everything Sasuke's accomplished in part two has been thanks to Oro being inside of him along with CS plus its not that hard to win when all your opponites are handicapped.

lol tell that to kabuto vs tsunade, i love that fight

Eh Naruto's the only one capable of fighting Pain for the same reason Sasuke was the only one capable of fighting Itachi there fights are written in stone its going to happen, plus when Pain's capable of walking into Konoha and sending them all into a frenzy only your strongest ninja aka Naruto would have a ghost of a chance against him.

um, i don't follow this
I mean i understand that in kishi's great story, sasuke was the only person he wanted fighting his brother
and if your saying that naruto and pein have a destiny like that in kishi's mind(child of prophecies) then i agree

but susake wasn't the only one capable of fighting his genjutsu master brother
ie gai/jman/naruto/kakashi...etc
Susake was probubly the worst person to ever fight him cause in that fight he got hustled so bad, itachi not only knew his next moves, he not only counted on them, but he made him make them...
at least if he fought jman he wouldn't know how many ways his ass was about to get kicked.

Naruto being the strongest in the village?
nope.

Pain's bodies are all highly leveled ranging from high junin to high kage hell Konoha's getting raped by 1/6th of his power. Kakashi stated it fairly simple alone he would stand no chance against Pain and even with 5+ ninja's as back up that didn't do jack squat to help him out. Now the will of fire thing come on when you got a guy that controlls gravity it would take alot more than possitive out look in life to defeat him. Hell team Gai would get raped so hard by Pain it wouldnt be funny 3 out of 4 of there fighters are Taijutsu specialist, Pain controlls gravity all he'd have to do is use his force push and bam all of them knocked out and we all know Ten Ten won't ever do anything usefull but hey maybe if they fight Ghost Relm they'd fair off better.

Kakashi can state whatever he wants to state, that doesn't change that fact that he pretty much took out two bodies...
pein has the wool pulled over everyones eyes, he's not that great (in his present form)
hell it was six on one,(exclude toad support) and jman killed 3, it's the gang mentality/methods that kept those pein bodies going

conversely what if jman had 5 of his trusted allies with him when he fought the pein bodies? honestly......
and no, he didn't get to use all of his potential in that fight(kishi's fault)
he could have trapped them in the frog belly when they were inside the hallways
he could have summoned his biggest allies
he could have fled in an instant(i wouldn't put it past pein)

Kakashi pretty much had the two of them beat, you can see it in peins eyes in that one panel.
but that gang **** saved peins ass yet again.
Kakashi really could have used his eyes twice that fight and it would have been the end of it, gravity control < eyes that send you to hell.

he's nothing without his buddies(not when he's fighting a real ninja)

will of fire pretty much lets leaf ninja almost kill themselves to win fights (garra vs lee being the best example)
and yes, through teamwork and skill I believe that team gai would crush any of the pein bodies, especially the minute neji tells them what the rods do.


Naruto would destroy Kakashi so hard it wouldnt even be funny. Mass Kagebunshion and thats it a **** load of clones running around and Kakashi along with his ****** chakara would either A. tire himself out trying to find the real deal or B. just get hit after an opening appears. Not to mention Kakashi has no answer to Kyuubi and Naruto's summons.

um...when you say mass bushins you can't possibly mean the same ones naruto's been using in all his fights...the ones that everyone pretty much plows through time after time
how many times have i heard, "shadow clones won't help in this fight"
man they're sasuke's favorite workout.

so, your suggesting that in a chunin match(fair fight, or so they claim)
kakashi would get beat by naruto in front of all to see?

first of all, he doesn't have sage mode yet(lets not forget)
second no one really knows what the stats are on that....if it helps you heal and ups your chaka pool, and your strength
...i don't know that pretty much seems redundant when you look at what tends to happen to naruto when he gets into a real fight...

I mean if this was kakashi who got this sage mode power up, it would suppliment his current weaknesses and he would be the man

but with naruto it seems like more of the same except he won't have to realy on the fox.

I'd say it puts him at 2 or three tails

summons? the ones he uses all the time? or the ones he uses that don't need convincing to do his fighting cause they all respect him so much?
sarcasm aside he's not jman.
his summons don't exist yet.

Kakashi couldn't complete the fourth's technique, naruto surpassed him in that, it ends there, if Kakashi were to ever get serious with that kid, the fight would be over in about 12 seconds...
that is of course unless the fox got lose...then it might come down to the eyes of death again.


Also I wouldnt take any of Naruto's part two fights seriously, the first one was to show off Kyuubi & the second was to show off his new move he hasn't used summoning once when they would of easily taken care of all his problems.

Oh and one last thing Minato did not take 4 years to master Rasengan it took him 3 years to create the jutsu and its pretty much well known that creating is not the same as learning.

just think of who naruto was exactly before he left for the toad mountain
if pein showed up he would be in the same boat as everyone else, except with kill move that he really shouldn't be using
(and if kakashi hit pein with his own move it would have been over anyway)

it's this supersaiyin training that has everyone thinking naruto is the new itachi(lol)
it just ups your stamina and strength, he may punch harder then gai now but not harder then sakura.

the only upgrade that i really see is the ability to throw the rasengan now.

sorry for the makeshift way of replying but i'm off to school

peace

[so-tite]

Well Naruto will flip the F out when he returns to Konoha when he finds out its destroyed by Pein the guy who killed Jman..Then he sees Kakashi dead or close to it because of Pein, then he sees Konohamaru dead or hurt by Pein..

Do you really think Kishi will kill of Kono though?

[SatEL]

Yup, yup thats why I'm loving Pain's invasion its going to be a huge mind f**k on Naruto. If only Pain had a personality other than ***** I'll kill you, he'd become a much more popular villain.

Pein is merely fodder, Madara is the one to watch.

[Sloth7d]

I agree Madara is most likely the bigger threat, but let's not insult Pein by calling him fodder, even as a joke. The guy defeated Kakashi and Jiraiya.

[MoPlaYa43]

Do you really think Kishi will kill of Kono though?

I dont think Kishimoto will kill off Konohamaru but you never know

[FadingCB]

I agree Madara is most likely the bigger threat, but let's not insult Pein by calling him fodder, even as a joke. The guy defeated Kakashi and Jiraiya.

Agreed. Madra, or possibly Sasuke will end up being the main villain. However Pein by himself has done more damage to Konoha than Orochimaru and the sand village combined, and he's doing it all by himself. His downfall will be whatever his secret is, if he didn't have a huge achilles heel he'd be almost unstoppable. I agree that Jiraiya alone took it to Pein, but Jiraiya also spent a lot of time running, and had to have help from the two frogs. Not to count the actual real Pein body itself has yet to get it's hands dirty, so far the only damage to Pein has been to throw away bodies he can replace easily.

[Colossal Spoons]

Boy the last 2 chapters have been chaotic. So hard to keep track of what's going on. And I swear, there's a new Pein every second lol

[FadingCB]

Just thought I'd let the anime watchers know that starting Jan 21 dattebayo and others will no longer be subbing Naruto Shippuuden...However the Viz will be. From now on I think their going to put pressure on the unofficial subbers to stop, but Viz will release for free a subtitled Naruto Shippuuden 1 week after it airs in Japan. Dattebayo said that Viz will also give a plan where for a small monthly fee you can watch the sub on the same day as it airs in Japan (not sure if that's true or not).

Smart on Viz's part, but kinda bad for the rest of us. However for a same day release of the sub...if it's not too bad of a price...I might pay for it if I get back into Shippuuden enough.

You can check for yourself on Naruto.com. Hulu and Joost will also be streaming it at the same time as Naruto.com does when they start doing that.

[mfbtl]

The latest issue is interesting.
Basically a whole bunch of build up, but at least team Gai has shown up (much to Ten Ten's chagrin lol). Also can't wait to see what Konan can really do besides turn into paper.
The latest episode is pretty good minus the star wars moment. I think the Naruto anime guys finally figured out how to make filler. The next arc was hyped well.

[Marvin]

things are finally moving again

I'm actually really pleased with the match ups too

some people were hoping sakura was going to face off against konan...that would have been pointless in a way
almost like spidey vs sand

glad the bug squad is facing her, they look great by the way

and the dude that hates physical attacks is facing people with physical ninjutsus ahahaha

Tsunade vs someone she actually knows information about
so pein aka akatski don't have that crazy advantage they always seem to
it seems kinda unfair in way way
or rather the tables turned
four elite anbu and the hokage vs one pein
(they better not lose)

peace

[X-Ray]

I like where things are heading. :applaud

Time to unleash Shino. No half ass **** like last time. :o

[FadingCB]

This was a good chapter. All the guys we were complaining about not showing up are now all going to Konoha. Konohamaru stated something true in that if he wants to be hokage, and Naruto's rival, he can't run. However he didn't show off some uber technique he has no right knowing...yet atleast lol. It also set up the main Pein body (outside of his actual body) vs. Tsunade, and it seems she remembers him from Jiraiya's training still. This leads me to think more than ever that Tsunade is going to kick the bucket, tho I still think Danzou will interfere somehow (i.e. sneak attacking Tsunade as she has the upper hand or something). She is a Sanin, not unbelievable for her to have the upper hand against one body even tho her chakra reserves are low from sending out all those slugs.

I also think Kakashi will survive now. When asked about him, Tsunade did that dramatic "...." deal. Then they immediately showed the morgue, but Kakashi of course wasn't there. I think it's a bait and switch.

[Marvin]

I like where things are heading. :applaud

Time to unleash Shino. No half ass **** like last time. :o

what happened last time?

shino hasn't had a moment since some of the fillers
and they don't count

[Marvin]

oh yea

and konohamaru will either summon naruto back just in time for him to try out his new approach to activating sage mode under pressure

or kono will use shadow clone in a very naruto way
setting up his future narutoesqueness
shadow clones seem to be uber technique of the times
looks at all the ability it's given noruto

speed learning
side stepping learning blocks
evade attacks while in the air
...etc

if kono shows this ability, it will set him up as the next naruto

[Sloth7d]

I think he's talking about that insect globe he used against Tobi.

[FadingCB]

Just remembered something about the last chapter I meant to nit pick a bit. Yet AGAIN Naruto's answer to his new technique is a clone? Don't get me wrong, this actually makes sense, he can have the clone set back and summon sage chakra while he fights....it's just that that's his answer to EVERY move. It's been 3 years and he still has to use a clone for a rasengan. If he didn't have his huge chakra pool Naruto wouldn't be able to do any of his big moves like that.

I think it's time Naruto started to learn moves without having to summon a dozen clones to help him set it up. I get that it's his signature, but you don't see Sasuke needing the help of 2 others Sasuke's to pull off Chidori. It also bugs me that it seems like such a clever idea, in fact not even the fourth thought of doing it, yet in the real world it's so obvious. It makes you wonder why Jiraiya didn't have Naruto train like this, and didn't even think about it until the 3 years were up.

[uchiha_itachi]

i think its about time naruto started using the one handed rasengan..that would make it better

[Tonicky]

who thinks Naruto's newest EPs are a little boring, they have nothing of Orochimaru.

[Marvin]

Just remembered something about the last chapter I meant to nit pick a bit. Yet AGAIN Naruto's answer to his new technique is a clone? Don't get me wrong, this actually makes sense, he can have the clone set back and summon sage chakra while he fights....it's just that that's his answer to EVERY move. It's been 3 years and he still has to use a clone for a rasengan. If he didn't have his huge chakra pool Naruto wouldn't be able to do any of his big moves like that.

I think it's time Naruto started to learn moves without having to summon a dozen clones to help him set it up. I get that it's his signature, but you don't see Sasuke needing the help of 2 others Sasuke's to pull off Chidori. It also bugs me that it seems like such a clever idea, in fact not even the fourth thought of doing it, yet in the real world it's so obvious. It makes you wonder why Jiraiya didn't have Naruto train like this, and didn't even think about it until the 3 years were up.

i can see where your coming from

but
at the same time, i i like the way it works

besides like he told neji, clones were the one thing that held him back, kept him from passing; from becoming a ninja
now they blow him passed even the fourth

as far as the one handed rasengan, he did it when he fought sasuke, I'm sure he'll do it again

chidori is a cake walk compared to rasengan

if naruto takes jiraiya's 3steps to rasengan, takes away the second two, and infuses a little wind element into the mix
he would have the rasengan equivalent to the chidori imo

you're right tho
at this rate, Naruto will have about 14 clones huddling for his ultimate move

[Phenomenal]

Tsunade is gonna win!

[MoPlaYa43]

I think Naruto will use clones to help him gather Chakra so he can go into sage mode while moving

[ironwez20]

i dont know guy's this fight seem's a little tough for tsunade i mean it's freakin pain she's going agaist.

[Marvin]

so far pain has only be a scary force when he has a 6men back up, one of which can resurrect the other 5
the shared vision is a pain as well(no pun)

also when his abilities are a secret to be discovered upon the victims death
pain my just get his chance to show his gumchure this time around

gravity powers vs 4 elite anbu and a sannin

[X-Ray]

I think he's talking about that insect globe he used against Tobi.

Bingo. Just when Shino was getting into it. Tobi boots. I felt robbed. :o

I think Naruto will use clones to help him gather Chakra so he can go into sage mode while moving

Well yah. As FCB pointed out. Clones will always be Naruto's solution to everything.

i dont know guy's this fight seem's a little tough for tsunade i mean it's freakin pain she's going agaist.

She has numbers, & a strong one at that, on her side. She'll hold out long enough for someone to come & save her. Hell, if she barely survives. I can see Danzou coming in to finish the job before anyone else comes to her aid.

Just saw the latest episode .....

The episode was fine. Much better animation than before. You can judge the two when they do the flashback scene. My favorite scene was Kakashi seeing the 4th in Naruto. My biggest beef is the preview for the next arc. :facepalm

Really now Studio Periott ? Filler material in the next arc ? Having Naruto & the gang fight it out with Tobi & Deidara for the 3 tail ? :facepalm x 10

[FadingCB]

Agreed with the facepalm over filler in the anime. It was already going to take them forever to catch up, it's not like in Naruto (pre shippuuden) or Bleach where they were on the heels of the manga. There is absolutely no reason to introduce this arc, no character improvements will be made, and it's over a character we never actually saw in the manga. If I remember right, wasn't the 3 tails the turtle that we just saw briefly? However the last episode was good, a shame to see them kick it into high gear just to take a step back.


The only reason I could see this, is if they are planning another section of Naruto, something post Shippuuden. This time however they are keeping so far behind they manga that they don't have to do the rating killing 100 or so fillers in a row they did last time, and can just keep going with the story until they have everything in order.

[Marvin]

fillers wouldn't be so bad..in fact they would be interesting if they were say like kakashi gaiden

where they cover some of that oh so interesting pre-maincharacter timeline history

ie the sannin wars or the current jounin when they were young

at least then they would garner interest without interfering with the story...

[Colossal Spoons]

Aw man, Tsunade is totally losing this fight :(

I think Naruto will use clones to help him gather Chakra so he can go into sage mode while moving

I hope not. Naruto relies on those clones too much. Its becoming a crutch :down:

[MoPlaYa43]

I cant wait to read the next chapter tomorrow!!

[Phenomenal]

Tsunade wins yall, she got prep-time, with a lot of power backing it up.

[X-Ray]

Tsunade wins yall, she got prep-time, with a lot of power backing it up.

Prep time ? She just found out about the whole gravitation/repel technique. No prep time.

Plus, she summoned the slug & had it split itself, into a whole bunch of smaller slugs, so it can attach itself to every injured shinobis. Summoning & maintaining it means using a lot of chakra.

She's going to rely on her ANBU unit a lot.

[MoPlaYa43]

Crazy stuff happening in chapter 428!

[X-Ray]

Aw ****, here it comes .......

Pein now knows Naruto's location and will probably just kill everyone in sight since they are no longer needed.

And FCB called it. The little runt pulled off a rasengan, Naruto style with the clone. Now he can die. :o

[mfbtl]

Fading did call it, but we all know deep inside that this was going to happen.

[Sloth7d]

Yeah. We all knew it was coming, but I don't think it's that bad now that I see it. I am trying to comprehend something else though. Like 1. how the hell is the rinnegan supposed to be such the supreme eye technique when it continues getting one uped by bunshins. 2. Why the hell is Hell Pein such a whimp. I mean, I'm sure he isn't dead but that was pathetic. Did Konohamaru seriously keep up with him in hand to hand combat for a while?

[Trainwreck2100]

i know its like 3 weeks old, but is kakashi really dead?

[YoungE808]

^ not sure yet

[FadingCB]

Aw ****, here it comes .......

Pein now knows Naruto's location and will probably just kill everyone in sight since they are no longer needed.

And FCB called it. The little runt pulled off a rasengan, Naruto style with the clone. Now he can die. :o

I wish I was wrong tho :(, but I don't think it did any real damage as we're not even fully sure what that Pein's power was (sucking souls?, pulling stomachs out? What?), and even Kabuto survived a larger rasengan than that.

I finally caught up, and it was a good issue more or less, set a lot of stuff up. Interesting tho that

It looks like Pein is going to Naruto instead. I didn't see that coming. Pein has no reason to stick around now, so I'm guessing Tsunade tries to stop him and she gets wounded but not killed. That combined with low chakra reserves from sending out the slugs makes her an easy kill for Danzou. Then Sasuke shows up and deals with Danzou, meanwhile Naruto and Pein fight.

[Sloth7d]

Unless Hell Pein has medical jutsu abilities, I wouldn't compare him taking a rasengan to Kabuto taking one. None the less,

It didn't look like it did any damage. Either Hell Pein has high defenses like Kakuzu, or Konohamaru hasn't perfected his rasengan. So it's all good, right?

[FadingCB]

Wow, so did Pein just....Kill Shizune and obliterate Konoha, leaving it as one giant crater? I mean damn, one hellova going away present. Pein has officially royally ****ed up Konoha badly, and solo. He did what the entire sand village and Orochimaru couldn't do, and he gets respect for that lol. Sad to see Shizune die tho, always liked her, despite her small amount of screen/manga time.

Overall, this was a huge issue. Maybe not the best fight scene, story moving story, but it had one of the biggest impacts in Naruto to date.

[X-Ray]

Damn!

I jokily posted before on here & NF that by the time Naruto returns. That Konoha would be a crater. Didn't expect that **** to really happen. There's literally a crater & nothing left. :wow: Impressive. :applaud

Hopefully Danzou got wiped out. :woot:

Next week will be a interesting chapter. Who survived ? How Naruto will react ? How will people react to Naruto's arrival ?

If Danzou survived and Tsunade didn't. I can see him taking advantage of the situation and turning all survivors on Naruto. All the respect he had earned, will be lost.

Bring on next week.

[Marvin]

when something like this happens it really makes you realize how annyoning that one chapter was 2 weeks or so back when nothing happened lol

at first i thought i was right..
when pein said it was time to leave i was like, wow, if he only found out 5 weeks ago, so many lives would have been spared,
but then he did what he did, and technically 5 weeks ago he probubly would have done the same thing.

finally starting to understand why he's pretty powerfull

i mean looking at accomplisments

madara, even the fox itself have tried to "Destroy" the village
and here we have a character do something like this in one swoop

kinda makes me wonder why akatski plot and plans on little things like making a weapon out of the beasts when all you need is pein to walk around taking out villages..


that being said i still don't get why keeping narutos whereabouts a secret was so sought after

i mean tsunade wants naruto back to fight pein
she's not trying to keep naruto out of harms way or anything...
what difference does it make if pein fights naruto in the village or on the magical frog mountain?

oh I know, less collateral...
(with the exception of pein's little parting gift of course)


looks like shino was snubbed out of another fight
great

[Marvin]

for the record, what happened was

the village was trasported away kuchiyose jutsu

ergo why pain has a funny look on his face !
ergo why sakura looks at the dirt and is curious how and why something more complex than just an explosion happened
ergo why the powerhouse summoner frogs did a kuchiyose jutsu just before the explosion

and lastly why naruto is now in the place where the village was, dressed like jiriaya and looking to exact some revenge...

sakura calling for naturo to come back(safely) is to throw the audience off
she's means from battle

[FadingCB]

Thnx. To tell the truth the last few pages were just a garbled mess to me, I didn't even notice that. I'll have to look back thru again.

As for why Pein doesn't do it more often, apparently it shortens his life.

If things are like you said in the spoiler tho, then it looks like we're about to have a good fight. Plus there's no Konoha in harms way, so chances are they can go all out. Looks like only Sakura will be able to watch the fight tho.

[X-Ray]

I woke up this morning and read what was being posted at NF. What a ****in' cop out if it turns out to be true that the entire village was summoned away. But at the same time still very impressive. If Pein did pull off his jutsu that would shorten his lifespan and hit nothing. What a waste. :down

[Marvin]

finally pain loses out at something

still weather he uses that jutsu or not, he can still take out a whole village by himself
(mostly due to circumstances tho)

i see reason why the akastki can't just go around destrying villages at their leisure.

those last pages were very unclear, probubly on purpose

personally i think naruto is going to pull out moves we haven't seen him learn and use them at a very intelligent level
cause honestly, as far as what the audience knows, naruto hasn't really learned anything apart from maybe how to throw an attack that deal extreme physical damage, and on someone like kakazu that's perfect, but pain could really care less, plus have fun throwing it at someone that can repel a village...

i honestly don't see naruto being any stronger than he would be at 4 or so tails

unless of course he pulls out moves and stretegium we don't know he has

it does look like he's going to attempt his method at reaching sage mode in the heat of battle.

[FadingCB]

I think it's do or die time for Naruto. He's been training, and the only person in all of Konoha that is there to help him is Sakura. That's not taking into account that Rock, Guy, and co. didn't reach the village before what happened. So no bailouts for Naruto, and it's time to show his training off.

At the same time Pein has to be worn out. I don't think it's the final battle inbetween Naruto and Pein tho. Naruto could finish off the remaining bodies, and Nagato (think that's his name) his real body is still out there, and he has lots of backups. I could see Naruto destroying the body we've come to know as Pein, and possibly gravely injuring the paper girl (causing her to become a new Pein body).

[Marvin]

i think sakura is with the rest of the village

naruto is alone

[Colossal Spoons]

Dude! Who's gonna clean that mess up!? :cmad:

[Colossal Spoons]

I think it's do or die time for Naruto. He's been training, and the only person in all of Konoha that is there to help him is Sakura. That's not taking into account that Rock, Guy, and co. didn't reach the village before what happened. So no bailouts for Naruto, and it's time to show his training off.

At the same time Pein has to be worn out. I don't think it's the final battle inbetween Naruto and Pein tho. Naruto could finish off the remaining bodies, and Nagato (think that's his name) his real body is still out there, and he has lots of backups. I could see Naruto destroying the body we've come to know as Pein, and possibly gravely injuring the paper girl (causing her to become a new Pein body).

Agreed. This has to be Naruto's big fight.(Even more important that his last one w/ Sasuke). If any other people do show up, they should be used just to keep some of Pain's body occupied while Naruto fights the main one.

[MoPlaYa43]

Agreed. This has to be Naruto's big fight.(Even more important that his last one w/ Sasuke). If any other people do show up, they should be used just to keep some of Pain's body occupied while Naruto fights the main one.


I agree.:woot:

[hulkamania]

Game on! :up:

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[MoPlaYa43]

It stinks that we have to wait until next week to read Chapter 430.

[X-Ray]

Game on! :up:

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Noice.

He's got a mixture of a Minato & Jiraiya look going on. :word:

[Colossal Spoons]

Weird looks for Naruto lol

1 more week :down:

[Thunder Emperor]

The Raw is out and naruto is kicking some ass

[X-Ray]

Decent lead up/set up chapter.

[Sloth7d]

I'll never forgive Kishimoto for making Tsunade so damn pathetic in battle or letting Shiho live.

[mfbtl]

I don't know why they are doing that to her character. Maybe because he isn't killing her off. If she got all brave she (I assume anyways) would get killed by Pain.

[Corinthian™]

The new one made me came.

It was awesome.

Lots of <3

[ssj wolverine]

I'll never forgive Kishimoto for making Tsunade so damn pathetic in battle or letting Shiho live.

I thought that Tsunade was one of the legendary three? She is such a loser here. Letting a child do her job to stop Pein. What is the point of her being Hokage??

[Dorian Gray]

Game on! :up:

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I can't believe about to say this about Naruto the series I hate..but he looks pretty slick there. I hope the eyes have a special ability.

[mfbtl]

Does that big blue frog with the swords look familiar? I could have sworn I have seen him before, but maybe I am hallucinating.

[Thunder Emperor]

I thought that Tsunade was one of the legendary three? She is such a loser here. Letting a child do her job to stop Pein. What is the point of her being Hokage??

No she does not need a child to save her. If you noticed. she used all her Chakra to ave every single village through the slug. If she did not do that, they would be dead. So she is willing to sacrifice herself for the village. Also the chick is like 50-60 years old. Look at what Pein did to Jiariya, so she still would lose.

[Sloth7d]

Yeah, but Jiraiya went out in a ballsey battle of glory. Why is it that none of the women in the series ever get a decent battle? The only one who ever got an impressive display is Temari, but even then it was only by defeating another woman.

[FadingCB]

I'll admit it wasn't a blaze of glory, but it did make sense. In fact it's very noble, what Tsunade did. She released her mark (which can kill her), and gave pretty much all of her chakra to save everyone (a lot of villagers would be dead if she didn't). Then she shields everyone in a similar way to what Gaara did earlier on. In the latest chapter she was basically on empty, and still willing to charge. I get that it wasn't flashy, but I think it showed a lot of her character and power to be able to give chakra to pretty much everyone in the village, and block part of Pein's attack.

Also I guess it did turn out that Pein destroyed Konoha. I thought he had, but had read rumors (on here and other places) that Konoha was summoned away, guess not. Pein really did **** up Konoha.

Also cool to see Naruto actually turn it up a full notch instead of taking another baby step. I'm eager to see the dialogue from Akatsuki after Pein's officially killed, whether that happens in this arc or another. Sasuke setting around watching Madra freak out over Pein being killed by Naruto.

In fact, Sasuke better not put up a good fight with Naruto unless he gets ANOTHER powerup. I'd put Pein above Sasuke (Sasuke lucked out against a pretty much already dead and not trying to kill him Itachi, and lucked out against Daedra by sacrificing Oro's snake). If Naruto can beat the guy who killed Jiraiya, destroyed Konoha, and pretty much whupped everyone in Konoha at once, I don't see how Sasuke can be on par with him. Sasuke would probably be around or just above Kakashi, and we saw what God realm Pein did to him.

Well all of that, and I want to see Sasuke get beat down, and not actually win in the end anyway.

[Colossal Spoons]

Yeah, but Jiraiya went out in a ballsey battle of glory. Why is it that none of the women in the series ever get a decent battle? The only one who ever got an impressive display is Temari, but even then it was only by defeating another woman.

Most female characters in every anime/manga I read/watch are useless. I'm noticing a trend :(



Anyway, decent issue. Naruto is strong!

[Sloth7d]

Yeah, so true. One of the few exceptions I've noticed is Bleach, though I'm on and off with that series for other reasons.

[Colossal Spoons]

Bleach is funny. The women are either badass or extremely useless. No middle ground.

[MoPlaYa43]

I agree Colossal Spoons

[uchiha_itachi]

i need a lil help. i just got a new laptop and went to play the newest naruto episode and it didnt play cos i dont have the right codecs. can someone give me a link where i can download the right ones please?

[X-Ray]

i need a lil help. i just got a new laptop and went to play the newest naruto episode and it didnt play cos i dont have the right codecs. can someone give me a link where i can download the right ones please?

http://www.free-codecs.com/

[MoPlaYa43]

It sucks we gotta wait unitl next week to read chapter 431.. :(

[Twitch]

i need a lil help. i just got a new laptop and went to play the newest naruto episode and it didnt play cos i dont have the right codecs. can someone give me a link where i can download the right ones please?

X-Ray just helped you out, but VLC player can play pretty much anything including Naruto.

[uchiha_itachi]

Alright thanks for the help guys :D

[Colossal Spoons]

x-ray just helped you out, but vlc player can play pretty much anything including naruto.

vlc ftw

[scatterax]

I'll admit it wasn't a blaze of glory, but it did make sense. In fact it's very noble, what Tsunade did. She released her mark (which can kill her), and gave pretty much all of her chakra to save everyone (a lot of villagers would be dead if she didn't). Then she shields everyone in a similar way to what Gaara did earlier on. In the latest chapter she was basically on empty, and still willing to charge. I get that it wasn't flashy, but I think it showed a lot of her character and power to be able to give chakra to pretty much everyone in the village, and block part of Pein's attack.

Also I guess it did turn out that Pein destroyed Konoha. I thought he had, but had read rumors (on here and other places) that Konoha was summoned away, guess not. Pein really did **** up Konoha.

Also cool to see Naruto actually turn it up a full notch instead of taking another baby step. I'm eager to see the dialogue from Akatsuki after Pein's officially killed, whether that happens in this arc or another. Sasuke setting around watching Madra freak out over Pein being killed by Naruto.

In fact, Sasuke better not put up a good fight with Naruto unless he gets ANOTHER powerup. I'd put Pein above Sasuke (Sasuke lucked out against a pretty much already dead and not trying to kill him Itachi, and lucked out against Daedra by sacrificing Oro's snake). If Naruto can beat the guy who killed Jiraiya, destroyed Konoha, and pretty much whupped everyone in Konoha at once, I don't see how Sasuke can be on par with him. Sasuke would probably be around or just above Kakashi, and we saw what God realm Pein did to him.

Well all of that, and I want to see Sasuke get beat down, and not actually win in the end anyway.

ya, i heard that here too.

[TankerX]

Well all of that, and I want to see Sasuke get beat down, and not actually win in the end anyway.

I think we all do, he's such an overrated - and overwritten - character. I completely lost interest in his arc when the whole Sasuke vs Itachi story began, it was such an overly extended storyline which wasn't needed. Oh and I agree, Naruto could easily defeat Sasuke without a doubt, however, i think he would be rather reluctant to use his full power as he wishes to save, rather than kill, Sasuke.

[FadingCB]

I think we all do, he's such an overrated - and overwritten - character. I completely lost interest in his arc when the whole Sasuke vs Itachi story began, it was such an overly extended storyline which wasn't needed. Oh and I agree, Naruto could easily defeat Sasuke without a doubt, however, i think he would be rather reluctant to use his full power as he wishes to save, rather than kill, Sasuke.

Yeah. I do realize that Sasuke does get his fair share of damage in fights. However something ALWAYS happens to give Sasuke the win. In fact I don't think he's lost a fight since before he beat Naruto at the end of the first part of Naruto. He's beat Naruto and the entire team, Orochimaru, Deidra, Itachi, and Killer Bee. He got beat downs in a few of those, and a lot of luck, and KB is still not even captured, but Sasuke still technically won.

I get that it's a way to have Sasuke win without looking too powerful, but the fact remains that he never loses anymore.

[TankerX]

It makes him such a boring character too, some of my favourite characters are those who do get beaten but dont let it affect them and push forward, Rock Lee in particular.
Why the focus has been on Sasuke and not on the other, and far more interesting, characters is beyond my recognition. It's as if characters such as Neji and Shino have been tossed aside.

[Colossal Spoons]

Neji being tossed aside angers me greatly

[Dorian Gray]

Isn't Sasuke Kishimoto's favorite? I doubt he will allow Naruto to give Sasuke the utter beat down he deserves

...what bothers me is that I don't understand why Sasuke is popular at all with many fans he's a very stereotypical character that seems to be the norm in just about in every anime.:huh:

I do admit that Naruto at the begining was the stereotypcial lovable scamp...IN THE BEGINING...but has come along way from what I read from fans here(I don't read or watch the series).

[Dorian Gray]

Neji being tossed aside angers me greatly
Agreed, IMO Neji has a more interesting ability with the Byakugan...being to see the chakra flow and being able to cut off an opponents chakra by hitting the chakra holes is far more interesting. The Sharingan is way overpowered, being able to see attacks seconds before they happen, being able to cast Genjutsus without using the hand seals(i think that's the name for them), and pretty much seeing into somones mind like he did Naruto...Byakugan for the better has a limit where The Sharingan does not and it makes for a less interesting power. This is how I feel about Aizen from Bleach, his Zanpaktou's ability though cool is way over powered.

...but Rock Lee being tossed aside should anger everyone.:cmad:

[scatterax]

Yeah. I do realize that Sasuke does get his fair share of damage in fights. However something ALWAYS happens to give Sasuke the win. In fact I don't think he's lost a fight since before he beat Naruto at the end of the first part of Naruto. He's beat Naruto and the entire team, Orochimaru, Deidra, Itachi, and Killer Bee. He got beat downs in a few of those, and a lot of luck, and KB is still not even captured, but Sasuke still technically won.

I get that it's a way to have Sasuke win without looking too powerful, but the fact remains that he never loses anymore.

they're prolly trying to hype up his power, so his fight w/ naruto is even more dramatic.

plus, if he lost a fight against any of those fighters mentioned above he would have prolly ended up dead (or possesed), and he'd never get a chance to fight naruto.


and they're making pain seem even more unbeatable, yet nobody has a problem w/ that.



...on a side note, does anybody feel like narutos only 1 or 2 story archs away from ending after pain loses?

...I mean, I keep thinking that if the 5th dies naruto will be appointed hokage. he's definitely strong enough now.

[TankerX]

...on a side note, does anybody feel like narutos only 1 or 2 story archs away from ending after pain loses?

...I mean, I keep thinking that if the 5th dies naruto will be appointed hokage. he's definitely strong enough now.

honestly, i dont want it to end after 2 story archs but at the same time i can see it becoming one of those things which just drags on aimlessly so im kinda on the fence.

[mfbtl]

There's a handful of things post Pain. I assume when all the Pains/Nagato(where ever Nagato is) are dealt with there is the team snake/killer bee situation. After that there will still be 3 akatsuki members left (I assume Konan will be taken out before Nagato). What is the deal with Kabuto? Then the Naruto/Sasuke thing. So Naruto will be around for a little bit because there is a lot left to be resolved plus the chance of other things developing.

[Colossal Spoons]

Agreed, IMO Neji has a more interesting ability with the Byakugan...being to see the chakra flow and being able to cut off an opponents chakra by hitting the chakra holes is far more interesting. The Sharingan is way overpowered, being able to see attacks seconds before they happen, being able to cast Genjutsus without using the hand seals(i think that's the name for them), and pretty much seeing into somones mind like he did Naruto...Byakugan for the better has a limit where The Sharingan does not and it makes for a less interesting power. This is how I feel about Aizen from Bleach, his Zanpaktou's ability though cool is way over powered.

...but Rock Lee being tossed aside should anger everyone.:cmad:

Agreed. I hate his whole character.

[Marvin]

looks like i was wrong about the village being summoned away

at the same time, it was my rationale to the many people suggesting that kishi actually killed everyone
which...again would defeat the purpose of every character that's ever come out of the leaf...

anyway village crushed but people saved via a new technique...Kishi knows how to mess with readers thats for sure...

cliffhanger and then when the audience tries to rationalize that the hell...and can't they fall into your trap...and then
surprise, new technique...

Kishi did say in a recent interview tho that he changed his mind as to the way things would play out...(no doubt due to how slow it was moving)

it does look like naruto is going to pull a Kakuzu part duex in defeating an already "tired" pain..

looks like naruto finally got that power up
he's probably faster then sasuke now, and can make rasengans in one hand...

anyone who things the series is almost done is wrong, it's as simple as that
there are way too many things that can and should be explored

sai's brother kabuto being the very least of them

that being said

can kakuzu beat kimmimaro(healthy) ???

[scatterax]

i don't know what you guys think, but imo the most obvious outcome of this next fight is naruto killing all 6 pain bodies, but w/ the real pain surviving.

but when that happens do you thionk the real pain will come out to fight a tired naruto, or will he just wait to find replacement bodys b4 he fights again?(and would he use characters we already know?)

[FadingCB]

i don't know what you guys think, but imo the most obvious outcome of this next fight is naruto killing all 6 pain bodies, but w/ the real pain surviving.

I agree that that's probably what will happen. I doubt Pein's going down in this fight. Most likely he'll have dialogue about underestimating Naruto, but that he'll be ready for him.

I'd like to see what you mentioned, Naruto winning but Nagato living and Nagato use familiar bodies as replacements. We've all talked about Jiraiya, and it makes sense. You could toss in characters we haven't seen for awhile like maybe Zabuza or Haku (Sasuke's water teammate even knew where their graves were to get Zabuza's sword).

Or they could always do the tragic route. Have Sasuke meet up with Naruto, then have Sakura and Shika join as well. Have Pein use these bodies to set up these fights -

Jiraiya - Naruto
Tsunade (if she dies), or Shizune - Sakura
Itachi - Sasuke
White Fang - Kakashi
Asuma - Shika
The 3rd - anyone, or everyone heh

[scatterax]

I agree that that's probably what will happen. I doubt Pein's going down in this fight. Most likely he'll have dialogue about underestimating Naruto, but that he'll be ready for him.

I'd like to see what you mentioned, Naruto winning but Nagato living and Nagato use familiar bodies as replacements. We've all talked about Jiraiya, and it makes sense. You could toss in characters we haven't seen for awhile like maybe Zabuza or Haku (Sasuke's water teammate even knew where their graves were to get Zabuza's sword).

Or they could always do the tragic route. Have Sasuke meet up with Naruto, then have Sakura and Shika join as well. Have Pein use these bodies to set up these fights -

Jiraiya - Naruto
Tsunade (if she dies), or Shizune - Sakura
Itachi - Sasuke
White Fang - Kakashi
Asuma - Shika
The 3rd - anyone, or everyone heh

sounds interesting.

[MoPlaYa43]

Isnt Shikamaru`s leg broke?

[scatterax]

Isnt Shikamaru`s leg broke?

i thought he ment like the next confrontation, after this 1 w/ pain ends

[MoPlaYa43]

oic...I read it too fast

[MoPlaYa43]

On www.Naruto.com they are putting up episodes of Shippuden.

[Corinthian™]

****ing theory time

the scroll on this (http://img55.onemanga.com/mangas/00000004/000120802/01.jpg) image is actually a shadow clone of Naruto.

Remember that I called it.

[FadingCB]

****ing theory time

the scroll on this (http://img55.onemanga.com/mangas/00000004/000120802/01.jpg) image is actually a shadow clone of Naruto.

Remember that I called it.

That's actually a very good idea. Have a shadow clone on his back constantly summoning the chakra. Instead of having one out in the open somewhere (as it would eventually be found and attacked).

Personally I was imagining him sending one out behind a tree somewhere and it'd occasionally flash back to it doing that generic handsign Naruto always does. However I like your theory much, much better.

[X-Ray]

****ing theory time

the scroll on this (http://img55.onemanga.com/mangas/00000004/000120802/01.jpg) image is actually a shadow clone of Naruto.

Remember that I called it.

Genius!

[MoPlaYa43]

Aw man we have to wait until next week for chapter 431? Thats no fun.

[Colossal Spoons]

****ing theory time

the scroll on this (http://img55.onemanga.com/mangas/00000004/000120802/01.jpg) image is actually a shadow clone of Naruto.

Remember that I called it.

That's actually a very good idea. Have a shadow clone on his back constantly summoning the chakra. Instead of having one out in the open somewhere (as it would eventually be found and attacked).

Personally I was imagining him sending one out behind a tree somewhere and it'd occasionally flash back to it doing that generic handsign Naruto always does. However I like your theory much, much better.

Genius!

Aw man, that is smart!

[scatterax]

Aw man, that is smart!

ya, but i wonder if the guy was smart enough to come up w/ that when he wrote it.

btw, your avi makes me hungry:cmad:

[Colossal Spoons]

Haha, I hope he thought of that.


Mmmmm, chicken

[FadingCB]

Haha, I hope he thought of that.


Mmmmm, chicken

I give up on KFC. Kenpachi keeps handing me one of those plastic knives and tells me I'm not getting my bucket of chicken unless I can cut him. Everytime I fail he frowns and says, "Is that all?", then walks off, and I die a bit inside.



Random question just to mess with ppl's heads....If you could perform Naruto's Kage Bunshin in real life, and had his ability to transform, would you make 2 clones of yourself, turn them into sexy supermodels, and sex them up? Part 2, if you did....would it be masturbation, or gay sex? Also...releasing the clones afterwards would be a serious mind **** since you gain their memories.

[mfbtl]

*shudders* lol

[X-Ray]

I give up on KFC. Kenpachi keeps handing me one of those plastic knives and tells me I'm not getting my bucket of chicken unless I can cut him. Everytime I fail he frowns and says, "Is that all?", then walks off, and I die a bit inside.

Gave up on KFC when I found Popeye's :wow::heart:


Random question just to mess with ppl's heads....If you could perform Naruto's Kage Bunshin in real life, and had his ability to transform, would you make 2 clones of yourself, turn them into sexy supermodels, and sex them up? Part 2, if you did....would it be masturbation, or gay sex? Also...releasing the clones afterwards would be a serious mind **** since you gain their memories.

Simple solution to avoiding the gay sex and having my mind being seriously ****ed because I was violated.

I'd make a decoy clone of the hot girl I intend to ram repeatedly. In this case, Sophia Bush. She (the decoy clone of Bush) would keep her current boyfriend away from the real thing. While myself disguised as the current boyfriend would have my way with the real thing. :woot:

:ninja:

[Trainwreck2100]

Random question just to mess with ppl's heads....If you could perform Naruto's Kage Bunshin in real life, and had his ability to transform, would you make 2 clones of yourself, turn them into sexy supermodels, and sex them up? Part 2, if you did....would it be masturbation, or gay sex? Also...releasing the clones afterwards would be a serious mind **** since you gain their memories.


you have to think outside the box. if you could do the sexy jutsu then BAM women's locker room.

[Corinthian™]

ya, but i wonder if the guy was smart enough to come up w/ that when he wrote it.

btw, your avi makes me hungry:cmad:
I can assure you, I came up with it.


Besides, I've been posting in this thread since 2005 and I hold the second place on the post count and almost none of my posts are trivial crap like "lol" and "that's true" or **** like that. Besides Oakzap, I'm the resident naruto fan here :cool:

[Colossal Spoons]

I give up on KFC. Kenpachi keeps handing me one of those plastic knives and tells me I'm not getting my bucket of chicken unless I can cut him. Everytime I fail he frowns and says, "Is that all?", then walks off, and I die a bit inside.

:lmao:

[scatterax]

I can assure you, I came up with it.


Besides, I've been posting in this thread since 2005 and I hold the second place on the post count and almost none of my posts are trivial crap like "lol" and "that's true" or **** like that. Besides Oakzap, I'm the resident naruto fan here :cool:


I mean I hope the guy that writes the naruto manga (whos name i can't spell) was smart enough to come up w/ that. I didn't mean to confuse you man.

[scatterax]

you have to think outside the box. if you could do the sexy jutsu then BAM women's locker room.


so r you saying you'd disguise yourself so you could sneek in to 1, or that you would make enough clones to fill a locker room?

[oakzap425]

Isn't Sasuke Kishimoto's favorite? I doubt he will allow Naruto to give Sasuke the utter beat down he deserves

...what bothers me is that I don't understand why Sasuke is popular at all with many fans he's a very stereotypical character that seems to be the norm in just about in every anime.:huh:

I do admit that Naruto at the begining was the stereotypcial lovable scamp...IN THE BEGINING...but has come along way from what I read from fans here(I don't read or watch the series).

Sasuke is Kishimoto's favorite to draw because he's so hard to draw.

[oakzap425]

they're prolly trying to hype up his power, so his fight w/ naruto is even more dramatic.

plus, if he lost a fight against any of those fighters mentioned above he would have prolly ended up dead (or possesed), and he'd never get a chance to fight naruto.


and they're making pain seem even more unbeatable, yet nobody has a problem w/ that.



...on a side note, does anybody feel like narutos only 1 or 2 story archs away from ending after pain loses?

...I mean, I keep thinking that if the 5th dies naruto will be appointed hokage. he's definitely strong enough now.


Looking back on the convo that Jaraiya had with Tsunade, prior to his fight with Pein, Kakashi may be asked first.

The story isn't going to end soon. Naruto still has the issue with the Kyuubi, which may or may not be resolved with in the next arc or two, considering Pein is in Konoha and finally has what he came for. Then you have the Sasuke vs. Konoha/Cloud (I think it's clould that Killer Bee was from, right?) The Cloud/Taka fight may happen before Sasuke gets to Konoha. Then you have to get Sasuke to Konoha, so he can see the destruction. Then you have the Naruto vs. Sasuke conflict. The Orochimaru vs Sasuke conflict that needs resolution. I refuse to believe that it's over. I think Orochimaru was a little more crafty than that. Then there's Kabuto, whom we haven't seen in at least 100 chapters.

There's tons more stories and resolutions and final battles and character tie-ups left. No way is this manga close to being done. I can see a late 09 early2010 wrap. Before June? Nope.

[scatterax]

Looking back on the convo that Jaraiya had with Tsunade, prior to his fight with Pein, Kakashi may be asked first.

The story isn't going to end soon. Naruto still has the issue with the Kyuubi, which may or may not be resolved with in the next arc or two, considering Pein is in Konoha and finally has what he came for. Then you have the Sasuke vs. Konoha/Cloud (I think it's clould that Killer Bee was from, right?) The Cloud/Taka fight may happen before Sasuke gets to Konoha. Then you have to get Sasuke to Konoha, so he can see the destruction. Then you have the Naruto vs. Sasuke conflict. The Orochimaru vs Sasuke conflict that needs resolution. I refuse to believe that it's over. I think Orochimaru was a little more crafty than that. Then there's Kabuto, whom we haven't seen in at least 100 chapters.

There's tons more stories and resolutions and final battles and character tie-ups left. No way is this manga close to being done. I can see a late 09 early2010 wrap. Before June? Nope.

well kakashi is dead last /i checked.

and I meant just a few more story lines, not chapters. (who knows how long they'd make those sagas.)and actually late 09, early 2010 sounds pretty good to me. altho it ouldn't surprise me if it went even later.

I'm just saying the over all story is prolly allot more than half way done.

[scatterax]

yay! page 300!

[oakzap425]

well kakashi is dead last /i checked.

and I meant just a few more story lines, not chapters. (who knows how long they'd make those sagas.)and actually late 09, early 2010 sounds pretty good to me. altho it ouldn't surprise me if it went even later.

I'm just saying the over all story is prolly allot more than half way done.

Last you checked, he was assumed dead.

There's a Slug attached to all living persons in the village. That includes kakashi.

http://img55.onemanga.com/mangas/00000004/000120802/09.jpg


P.S. Wtf was up with the crappy art this chapter?

[mfbtl]

I'll have to agree with oakzap here. Kakashi is assumed dead. Not that he might not end up dead, but I am going to wait until the final prognosis.

[FadingCB]

Plus they already did the fake out deal, which typically misleads you in the wrong direction. Where when asked if Kakashi was dead Tsunade was quiet, then they panned to the morgue (which Kakashi obviously wasn't in). It's just misleading us to believe he died, otherwise they would have had no reason to show that slug eyeball near him in the above scene (as one had made it to him).

Also, if true, I read on another site about the author saying this year was about growth for Sakura and Kakashi (where last was Sasuke and Itachi's year). So if it is true, kinda hard for Kakashi to have character growth if he's dead. I'm guessing with Shizune gone (and the often guessed Tsunade death), Sakura will have to take up position as head healer of Konoha. Naruto will probably keep up his training and chasing Sasuke, meanwhile I'll buy in to Kakashi taking up Hokage mantle while Naruto is busy and in the absence of Tsunade (Kakashi's character growth).

[scatterax]

^ fair enough. I'm just trying not to get my hopes up. after all he is my favorite character.

but what if instead of the fifth dying, she just considers to weak to defend kanoha, now that most of her chakra (and that seal thingy, which I'm assuming has something to do w/ her power) is gone? maybe it's wishful thinking. just tryin to think outside the box w/ her.

[MoPlaYa43]

Maybe she will retire and give Naruto her spot as Hogake

[oakzap425]

Honestly, with the whole Danzou thing starting, I think he's going to convince the council that her actions weren't in the best interest of Konoha. Of course, no one will know (at least not right away) that he was partly to blame. But he will see to it that Tsunade is removed from the Hokage position. I think he will try to put himself into the seat, but he will either fail, or someone will take it from him (with force, of course). I think this is when Kakashi will come in to play. I think Kakashi will take the Hokage spot (with reluctence), but, it will probably be because of Naruto that he will. I think Naruto will not take over the Hokage position until after Akatsuki is defeated (and at this point it's looking to be Zetsu, Tobi/Madara, Kisame, and Nagato as the final standing Akatsuki members) and Team Taka is defeated, and Sasuke returns to Konoha.

[mfbtl]

I keep forgetting about Danzou. He needs to do something now though in order to strengthen his case. Just because he was considered back when the 3rd was considered doesn't mean he still has what it takes to become hokage. Sometime during these next couple of chapters have to be key for Danzou (I'd like to think).

[Trainwreck2100]

New Chapter's out
naruto can sense all konoha's citizen's chakra, except Kakashi :csad:

[Corinthian™]

Naruto PWN'd

[Sloth7d]

New Chapter's out
naruto can sense all konoha's citizen's chakra, except Kakashi :csad:

Bah, I'll believe he's dead when the statements are a less vague about it. On another note, I can't wait to see Naruto's new technique. I wonder which Pein will get one-shotted by it.

[uchiha_itachi]

Giant Rasengan, now that was awesome lol kakashi has probably been moved somewhere. he aint dead till we see the body.

[mfbtl]

I like how kishi won't show Tsunade's face when she is out of chakra and old again. I finally remembered where I saw the frog with two swords. Outside Naruto's hospital room after the Sasuke fight before Shippuden started.

[X-Ray]

I like how kishi won't show Tsunade's face when she is out of chakra and old again. I finally remembered where I saw the frog with two swords. Outside Naruto's hospital room after the Sasuke fight before Shippuden started.

Wasn't he the same frog that landed on the 3 headed snake during Invasion of Konoha arc ?

Oh yah, ANBU went back to being useless. :facepalm He must have been in invisible mode or some ****. Because it looked like no one saw him standing holding up Tsunade.

[FadingCB]

Just read it, good issue. The action definitely is picking up. I still say the Kakashi thing is a swerve, Tsunade once against didn't answer, just the "....".

Wonder if his new technique is a giant Fuuton Rasengan that he can throw? Heh, even with his new power he's still kinda the same in technique (rasengan's and kage bunshins).

I did like The frog katans, and showing his increased strength in action.

[Colossal Spoons]

Way to go Naruto. Can't wait to see this new technique

[MoPlaYa43]

Wave of Rage!

[Colossal Spoons]

I hope it's not shadow clone dependent.

[p!@tdFlyleafyes]

not to get on anybodies nerves but naruto isn't good anymore. now that sasuke is gone its just boring. im no fangirl,but all the random missions now and sakura is actually useful now,i don't like it like that anymore.i'll watch it but i'd like to know if anybody else feel the same way.

[Colossal Spoons]

You dislike the fact that Sakura is useful now? lol

[scatterax]

...but sasuke isn't gone.:huh: funny, but a bunch of people were complaining that they focus too much on him.:woot:

hmm, i guess the main difference between now and part 1 is that naruto got on my nerves less and less in part 2. now I think he's actually cool!!! but b4 I thought he was some dumb and annoying rip off of kid goku, and I almost didn't watch the show because of him. than I turned it on to see what it was like, and kakashi fighting zabuza was the first thing I saw. been hooked ever since. kakashi is still my favorite character, and the "zabuza saga" is still my favorite "saga" to this day:grin:(I hope kakashi's still alive:csad:) so ya, every1 character EXCEPT naruto was cool in the 1st half. now he's like the 4th in coolness.

[X-Ray]

So, how about that Naruto ?

It should be interesting seeing what he does next since his mojo is up. Maybe he'll accidentally use whatever Itachi left him. Good Itachi have set up another booby trap ?

Even without Itachi's gift. He should have enough in him to take out one more Pein.

[kyuubijavi1]

Damn FRS was bad ass I can't wait to see some one actually get hit by it and not just the tail of the jutsu. Other than that I wonder what both Pain and Naruto are going to do now, will Pain just revive all his bodies or will Naruto stop him and regain his sage mode before he has to face all 6 paths once again.

[uchiha_itachi]

i wonder if by throwing the FRS if he prevents the negatve effects from it. you would think it would