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Okay I plan on making a draft list relatively soon, but can someone point me to the list of who's taken? And do I still have my old team?
http://www.superherohype.com/forums/showthread.php?t=125148
Maybe I should post some of the Back Up Journey into Mystery stories with Odin in them. I remember one where he was younger, fighting Frost Giants... He ended up splitting a decent sized mountain in half with his sword, super badass scene. Bunch of Frost Giants fell in as well.
Johnny Blaze
12-15-2004, 02:50 PM
Okay I plan on making a draft list relatively soon, but can someone point me to the list of who's taken? And do I still have my old team?
You still have your old team, and use the link X posted to check out the rosters. :up:
You have until this Sunday to get me your list.
Also, somebody should really pick up The Molecule Man's son. He had all of his dads powers, and he could affect organic matter. But, he wielded the powers using this rod, and that ended up being the end of him. Thing threw a clump of The Man-Thing's, er, muck at him, accidently knocking it out of his hands. Within moments, he was dead, turned to dust. He wasn't as powerful as The Secret Wars 2 Molecule Man either, not even close. You know, thousands of universe slagging bullcrap. :o
mikeyh89
12-15-2004, 04:18 PM
my team isnt at that link, or is that just the people from DTL 1?
Just the people from season one. Er, new person draft will be soon.
XFanTim
12-15-2004, 05:02 PM
To me it sort of seems like the upper level for ubers is too high already. Of course, since I'm new to the league, my opinion isn't really based on much. And maybe once I actually participate in some matches and get more of a sense for how things work, I'll change my tune. But as it stands now, I'm thinking do we really need more God-like characters? I think characters with a more limited and well defined set of powers are much more interesting. I'd much rather read a well written fight with Magneto than Odin -- because Magneto has to find a way to do whatever it is he wants to do by manipulating metal, whereas Odin can do it just because he's a god. But it seems like if people pick slightly more limited ubers, they'll be putting themselves at a disadvantage when there are gods and other cosmic entities they'd have to face.
XFanTim
12-15-2004, 05:09 PM
The drafts will be done pretty much back-to-back without much of a delay in between.
That's probably good, since I know all of us are itching to get started -- but I hope we'll at least have a day or two. I might want to revise my draft order a bit based on who I end up getting in the expansion draft. Nothing too significant, just a little shuffling to make sure I get a good variety of powers.
JewishHobbit
12-15-2004, 05:18 PM
I'm sure there'll be a little bit of time (not to mention all throughout the season) where you can just drop characters on your team for new ones whenever you see fit.
To me it sort of seems like the upper level for ubers is too high already. Of course, since I'm new to the league, my opinion isn't really based on much. And maybe once I actually participate in some matches and get more of a sense for how things work, I'll change my tune. But as it stands now, I'm thinking do we really need more God-like characters? I think characters with a more limited and well defined set of powers are much more interesting. I'd much rather read a well written fight with Magneto than Odin -- because Magneto has to find a way to do whatever it is he wants to do by manipulating metal, whereas Odin can do it just because he's a god. But it seems like if people pick slightly more limited ubers, they'll be putting themselves at a disadvantage when there are gods and other cosmic entities they'd have to face.
Magneto's more vauge then Odin.
He started off being a master of magnatism, no? Now he controlls the entire electromagnetic spectrum. How's that for vauge? Sure, if you know about that stuff (I've read up on it more then once) it isn't that hard, but still. He's done things like giving The Phoenix "A seizure on a cosmic scale" and what not. Plus, the whole "Do they have iron in their blood" comes up way, way too often. Christ, I've seen arguements go on for dozens of pages, people talking about Superman not having to adhere to that rule because he's an alien...
Movies205
12-15-2004, 07:38 PM
If we already have teams why do I need to make a draft list?
The Leaguer
12-15-2004, 07:51 PM
We're having a draft for all the owners to expand the team size from 7 to 10.
Movies205
12-15-2004, 07:58 PM
Ah!
JewishHobbit
12-15-2004, 08:28 PM
So the drafts have to be in Sunday. When will the actual Expansion draft be done, how much longer after that will the Filler draft be done, and how much time after that will we have before the first match?
My vote is that the first match shouldn't take place until after christmas. Give's everyone a week or so to get theri teams organized as they like and plus for those of us who work retail it gives us a chance to breath. But if you choose to start it sooner I'll be okay with it.
Johnny Blaze
12-16-2004, 12:10 PM
The Expansion Draft should take place Sunday. The Filler will probably be the next day.
And starting the season after X-Mas sounds like a good plan. :up:
Union Jack
12-16-2004, 12:26 PM
wahoo :D :up:
XFanTim
12-16-2004, 01:46 PM
Magneto's more vauge then Odin.
He started off being a master of magnatism, no? Now he controlls the entire electromagnetic spectrum. How's that for vauge? Sure, if you know about that stuff (I've read up on it more then once) it isn't that hard, but still. He's done things like giving The Phoenix "A seizure on a cosmic scale" and what not. Plus, the whole "Do they have iron in their blood" comes up way, way too often. Christ, I've seen arguements go on for dozens of pages, people talking about Superman not having to adhere to that rule because he's an alien...
Well, yeah, bad writers have needlessly over powered him, and given him all these weird powers that don't make sense. I wish the whole iron-in-the-blood thing had never been invented. I think the first time it was used was during "Fatal Attractions", and it was mainly just to set up Bishop saving them due to the fact that his powers are involuntary. Which was actually kind of clever, but the trick really should have been shelved after that -- it doesn't make sense and it generally makes for worse fights. I'd say Magneto's heyday was back in the late-70s/ early-80s. Back then he really did have to think of clever ways to use his powers, rather than just doing whatever he wants and having the writers justify it by saying "Well, there must have been iron somewhere around, somewhere."
The Leaguer
12-16-2004, 01:55 PM
The Expansion Draft should take place Sunday. The Filler will probably be the next day.
And starting the season after X-Mas sounds like a good plan. :up:
Finally!!
Ahura Mazda
12-17-2004, 04:56 AM
The Expansion Draft should take place Sunday. The Filler will probably be the next day.
And starting the season after X-Mas sounds like a good plan. :up:
When after Christmas are we talking, and if that would we call a hiatus for New Years.
And reading the above, Is now King Thor with Mjolnir being considerred because given he seemed to have limitless power once he accepted the things he did wrong and how easily he destroyed the destroyer who was amped up himself with Mjolnir it would seem that he would be pretty unbeatable. I did not see him get defeated in that last comic when he recombined with his human counterpart.
And if it is decided to allow the Gods from mythology can we refer back to mythology with regard to their powers?
Johnny Blaze
12-17-2004, 09:27 AM
No, King Thor is still not allowed.
Union Jack
12-17-2004, 11:11 AM
good,i am glad king thor isnt allowed i'd be real peeved if i wernt allowed him last time and he were this time....
You going to make a ruling on Odin, Blaze?
Don't know if you caught it earlier, but Hercules has beaten Zeus, one on one.
AnnoyingSilence
12-17-2004, 06:26 PM
coolest flash pic ever
http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v318/jusreal/DC%20Stuff/Flash-210.jpg
Yeah, I had that as my desktop.
6 months ago.
AnnoyingSilence
12-17-2004, 06:35 PM
well... blah... its mine now.... blah
primemover
12-17-2004, 08:47 PM
Cool image, I presume the dude on the bottom right is the Weather Wizard, but who is that at the top right, Scarecrow?
AnnoyingSilence
12-18-2004, 01:02 AM
is that dark flash? i've only read about 10 issues or so of flash an i8've only seen the gorilla an mrcold
The Leaguer
12-18-2004, 01:25 AM
The guy in yellow is the Zoom, the Reverse Flash (AKA Hunter Zoloman).
AnnoyingSilence
12-18-2004, 02:00 AM
thx
Johnny Blaze
12-18-2004, 10:46 AM
I'm still thinking on Odin, but for now I'd have to say it's still a no.
AnnoyingSilence
12-18-2004, 12:01 PM
[Stewart from Mad Tv]Look what i can do http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v318/jusreal/stupid%20stuff/avatar.gif
look what i can dohttp://img.photobucket.com/albums/v318/jusreal/stupid%20stuff/avatar.gif
look what i can dohttp://img.photobucket.com/albums/v318/jusreal/stupid%20stuff/avatar.gif[/Stewart from Mad Tv]
Well, Her is definitely an uber.
She once flew over The X-Men mansion, her power was classified by the tech there as near Phoenix Level. And she certainley showed it in a few comics I read with her in them, Quasar comics.
Well, another character reccomendation. Gilgamesh, The Forgotten One.
He's pretty much Hercules (he's more experienced then him though, and he's actually been mistaken for Herc more then once) with more...versatility. He's an Eternal, meaning he has total moleculer control. On top of being nearly invulnerable, he can regenerate mass, limbs, in no time at all. You'd literally have to break him apart at a moleculer level to stop him, even then he could probably come back. 95% disinigration or so would stop him for a damned long time though.
Uhmm, he harnesses cosmic energy as well. Meaning, he can fly... shoot blasts from his eyes, and from his hands. Damned powerful ones at that. He's a decent molecule tinkerer as well, and a helluva fighter. I mean, just having strength like Hercs (You know, going toe to toe with The Mindless Hulk and batting around Galactus) is damned good. Hope someone uses him, he's one of Marvel's most underrated bricks.
Johnny Blaze
12-18-2004, 08:46 PM
Well, I still have yet to get a list from batnkevlar or Movies, but the Expansion Draft will take place tomorrow regardless.
After the ED is over with, there will be a 24 hour break before the Filler Draft takes place. Durring this time you will have the chance to make changes to your draft lists if you so choose. If not I will use the ones I already have.
The Leaguer
12-18-2004, 08:49 PM
So about what time will the Expansion draft take place?
Johnny Blaze
12-18-2004, 08:54 PM
When I go online in the morning I'll check to see if batnkevlar has sent me his list. Whether he has or hasn't, I'll do the draft then, so you can expect the results up in the late morning/early afternoon.
And as soon as the results go up the 24 hour break will begin.
The Leaguer
12-18-2004, 09:00 PM
Sweet. And thanks again for all the effort you're putting into this. :up:
Very cool. Going to be fun getting this all under way again, especially considering we've all got a good, well, idea of what's going on, a solid foundation. And a lot more people in it. Hmmm.
The Leaguer
12-18-2004, 09:10 PM
Hey, X. Week 6? You're going down. Down to Chinatown.
Hahahha, reminds me of Meet The Parents.
"Have you ever smoked Marijuana, Focker?"
:D
Johnny Blaze
12-18-2004, 09:19 PM
No problem. I'll just be glad to get these drafts over with. :o
The Leaguer
12-18-2004, 09:23 PM
Yeah, me, too.
Hahahha, reminds me of Meet The Parents.
"Have you ever smoked Marijuana, Focker?"
:D
Heh, yeah, that's where I got it from. That movie had a tone of great quotes.
batnkevlar
12-18-2004, 09:30 PM
Dude, when exactly are these drafts due?
The Leaguer
12-18-2004, 09:31 PM
Tomorrow morning.
JewishHobbit
12-18-2004, 10:55 PM
Your about 3 years behind Bats,... we've been wating for you and others for a while (though I don't know exactly how long being that I don't know when you joined up). If you can get your list in tonight you'll still be able to possibly get your upper choices before they're taken.
JewishHobbit
12-18-2004, 10:57 PM
Very cool. Going to be fun getting this all under way again, especially considering we've all got a good, well, idea of what's going on, a solid foundation. And a lot more people in it. Hmmm.
The break has been wonderful as far as clearing my head after the business of last season and getting more familiar with DC (which I will now admit to being really good) but I've been ready to get this show back on the road. I'm finding myself at work durring lunch break thinking of ways to take out certain individuals or in the shower trying to think of ways to make characters work together in a team. It's like it's all starting to build inside and I have no output. I'm excited to finally rage some war again!
Oh, and a side question.... Ultimate Colossus would be Medium right?
Johnny Blaze
12-18-2004, 11:24 PM
Dude, when exactly are these drafts due?
I gave you a 2 week notice...well, 2 weeks ago. Then a 1 week notice last weekend. The lists are past due. The Expansion Draft will take place later today.
If you can get me your list in time then you're good. If not, I wouldn't worry about it too much. You'll miss the drafts, but you'll be able to assemble a team once they're over with.
Oh, and Ultimate Colossus would be a Middleweight.
JewishHobbit
12-18-2004, 11:46 PM
Thanks. I don't have my list anywhere on my computer anymore as I deleted it on accident. Could you throw him on my list there right below Polaris and Storm? Thanks, and I'd appreciate it.
AnnoyingSilence
12-19-2004, 01:41 AM
Dude, when exactly are these drafts due?you got to be kidding me... do you know how many times its been said for the last +/-6 weeks...
obviously your not interested, this has to be your 1st time posting in here... an i do believe JB when hes said it +/- 2 times, that hes sent yall messages about the drafts comming up...
i'm not trying to be a butt-head,
just stating the facts
AnnoyingSilence
12-19-2004, 01:43 AM
I gave you a 2 week notice...well, 2 weeks ago. Then a 1 week notice last weekend. The lists are past due. The Expansion Draft will take place later today.
If you can get me your list in time then you're good. If not, I wouldn't worry about it too much. You'll miss the drafts, but you'll be able to assemble a team once they're over with.
Oh, and Ultimate Colossus would be a Middleweight.i was wondering between the drafts can we drop people? probly not, just askin
AnnoyingSilence
12-19-2004, 01:50 AM
I'm finding myself at work durring lunch break thinking of ways to take out certain individuals or in the shower trying to think of ways to make characters work together in a team.yea, i've got a small list building on ways that i've thunk up for the last couple weeks(JH already knows, i'm just sayin:D)... o thx for the xmas there bro-inlaw... got 16 comics read last night an i finally run into a generation x that i actually like, an its the only time i didn't bring more to read at work.
the season 2 antisipation is unbear able!!!
an i can't wait to bring some tears out of my opponents:daredevil
XFanTim
12-19-2004, 08:00 AM
The break has been wonderful as far as clearing my head after the business of last season and getting more familiar with DC (which I will now admit to being really good) but I've been ready to get this show back on the road. I'm finding myself at work durring lunch break thinking of ways to take out certain individuals or in the shower trying to think of ways to make characters work together in a team. It's like it's all starting to build inside and I have no output. I'm excited to finally rage some war again!
Yeah, you can't plan for your week one matchup, though, 'cause you still don't know who's gonna be on my team. :) Although, my element of surprise will be gone by the end of the day. :( On the other hand, it may make my planning a little easier once I actually know what characters I'll have. :)
JewishHobbit
12-19-2004, 08:18 AM
Yeah, I've tried to plan for you before. I got on the DTL Update screen looking for your team then smacked myself in the forehead. So since then I've just been thinking about ways to make my current team work together and try to figure out who of my current 7 I'm going to drop after the draft. I'm pretty sure Magik (Amanda Sefton) and Abyss (AoA) are going bye bye, I just haven't desided for who yet. And I'm also debating dropping Savage Hulk, but I'm still debating that one. (So if anyone's interested in any of those three feel free to PM me if you have a trade in mind)
AnnoyingSilence
12-19-2004, 09:09 AM
yea, i'm tryin to find a good dc-f-m in place of poison ivy soon as i can, or i'll keep that spot for a rotating postition for certain character weakness'
Johnny Blaze
12-19-2004, 11:04 AM
No, you can't drop people in between the drafts.
TheCorpulent1
12-19-2004, 11:11 AM
But we can after both drafts are done, right? Then we're basically in the same territory we were last season between matches, just trading, adding, and dropping characters freely, right? RIGHT?! AAAAH!!
Johnny Blaze
12-19-2004, 11:14 AM
Well, it was smaller than I'd hoped, but here's the results of the Expansion Draft.
Round 1
1) The Atomic Punks – Super-Skrull (MU)
2) The Tremendous Ten – Firestorm (Ronnie Raymond/Martin Stein) (DU)
3) Mikey’s Marauders – Rogue (MM) (F)
4) The He-Naners – Namor (MM)
5) Casa Mare – X-Man (MU)
Round 2
1) Casa Mare – Dr. Fate (Kent Nelson) (DU)
2) The He Naners – Sabretooth (MR)
3) Mikey’s Marauders – Batman (DR)
4) The Tremendous Ten – Zoom (Hunter Zolomon) (DU)
5) The Atomic Punks – Nightcrawler (MR)
Round 3
1) The Atomic Punks – Ultron (MU)
2) The Tremendous Ten – The Sentry (MU)
3) Mikey’s Marauders – Lex Luthor (DR)
4) The He-Naners – Green Lantern (Kilowog) (DU)
5) Casa Mare – Hyperion (Exiles) (MU)
Round 4
1) Casa Mare – Deadpool (MR)
2) The He Naners – Smasher (Imperial Guard) (MU)
3) Mikey’s Marauders – Elektra (MR) (F)
4) The Tremendous Ten – Darklore (MU)
5) The Atomic Punks – Green Lantern (Alan Scott) (DU)
Round 5
1) The Atomic Punks – Juggernaut (MU)
2) The Tremendous Ten – Iceman (AoA version) (MM)
3) Mikey’s Marauders – Bizzaro (DU)
4) The He-Naners – Black Knight (Dane Whitman) (MR)
5) Casa Mare – Mystique (MR) (F)
Round 6
1) Casa Mare – Jade (DM) (F)
2) The He Naners – Oracle (DR) (F)
3) Mikey’s Marauders – Superman (DU)
4) The Tremendous Ten – Polaris (MM) (F)
5) The Atomic Punks – Nick Fury (MR)
Round 7
1) The Atomic Punks – Tomorrow Woman (DM) (F)
2) The Tremendous Ten – Cannonball (MR)
3) Mikey’s Marauders – Wolverine (MR)
4) The He-Naners – Quicksilver (MR)
5) Casa Mare – Indigo (DR) (F)
The Mondo Funkies lost the Black Knight to the He-Naners.
Dwarf Lord's Destroyers lost Sabretooth to the He-Naners.
Neverwhere lost Batman to Mikey's Marauders.
The Yancy Street Gang lost Lex Luthor to Mikey's Marauders.
Justice Supreme Ver.2 lost Superman to Mikey's Marauders.
All the other characters who were made avaliable for the draft are now returned to their teams. For the owners who lost a character in the Expansion Draft you'll be able to replace them after the Filler Draft is over.
The 24 hour break period begins now.
Johnny Blaze
12-19-2004, 11:15 AM
But we can after both drafts are done, right? Then we're basically in the same territory we were last season between matches, just trading, adding, and dropping characters freely, right? RIGHT?! AAAAH!!
Yes :D
Sentry is way way way way way way too ****ing uber guys. We're talking about a being who would crush Pre-Crisis Superman, He can literally do anything. He took on and defeated The Void, a being who took on everyone on Marvel Earth like nothing, he could of killed them all, casually. And, he was a threat to the entire universe. Did I mention The Sentry stalemated Galactus? I read all of The Sentry stuff a while ago, kind of considered using him... But for one, I coulden't in any way justify him not being too uber, and his powers are kind of vauge anyhow, especially his whole light manipulation thing.
Ultimate Colossus should be an uber in my opinion. Took a nuke, a nuke, ground zero and was pretty much just knocked off his feet. Also threashed Thor and Iron Man, no big deal.
And about X-Man, I've got no problem using him, but at one point he was easily too uber, during his Shaman days and all. He was pretty much protecting a multiverse, and he defeated Marvel's version of The Anti-Monitor. Just keep him to telekinetically lifting mountains and what not. :)
And why in the hell is Smasher an uber? We've barely seen anything of him in 30 years!
I've seen him in some X-Men comics, and A Quasar one. Just about as vauge as you can get, as you can see.
http://marveldirectory.com/individuals/s/smasher.htm
Very good choice with Zoom, one of the best ubers imaginable. :up:
Ultron really shoulden't be an uber. All he's got going for him is his massive durability, and his smarts. He isn't that strong. Last we saw of him in Ultron Unlimited, he was only effective after hundreds of other Ultrons weakened The Avengers, and an accident made him even more powerful then usual. Normally, any number of people would destroy him. Black Panther, Iron Man, The Melter (:D) and, uhmm, Hank Pym as of now.
Don't forget the awesomeness of Nick Fury, Atomic Punks. He's got guns with adamantium bullets (Threatened to shoot The Hulk in the eye with it, bullet would then explode in his brain) tons and tons of info on just about everyone on Marvel Earth, this... tech suit thing that enabled him to stand in the center of huge explosions, and the Overkill Horn, which could destroy anything up to secondery adamantium.
Quicksilver, after the whole Isotope thing, could run at Mach 12 or so. Might bump him up to being a Middleweight.
XFanTim
12-19-2004, 12:31 PM
Sentry is way way way way way way too ****ing uber guys.Well, I've read none of the Sentry stuff (although I've read summaries of some of it), I just kind of threw him in there because I knew he was supposed to be powerful, and I felt a little bit like I was leaning too much to just drafting characters I thought would be fun to write, rather than the most powerful people. (Although the fact that I got all my top picks gave me a pretty strong lineup after all, I'd say.) But I really didn't think I'd get Sentry with my third pick -- given all the hype around him lately (the whole New Avengers thing), I thought he'd go in Round 1.)
Speaking of which -- he is still gonna be joining the Avengers, right? Do we know yet how he's going to be portrayed in that? (I don't really follow Avengers at all.) Because it seems that if they're adding him to the team they might make him a bit powered down, so he doesn't totally dominate the action.
At any rate, I'm probably going to mostly use Darklore anyway, because writing a powerful magic user seems more fun to me than just writing some generic cosmic dude. (As I commented earlier, characters who are too powerful don't seem as fun to me.) Anyway, I wanna show Darlore off a bit, because I'm kind of proud of myself for drafting someone so obscure -- he was in what, three issues of Infinity Watch? (Plus, the lack of appearances leaves his power level a little more open to my interpretation.)
That said, I do want to have another character I can use if Sentry gets disallowed -- and I think I should be able to make a replacement before the supplemental draft if that's the case.
As another alternative, I have no problem being told I can use him, but that I need to portray him as no stronger than, say, Odin -- who I know X at least considers a legit uber. (Although he'd still have Sentry's mix of powers, of course, meaning class 100 strength, etc.) I could even make up some B.S. in my storyline to explain the powerdown.
TheCorpulent1
12-19-2004, 12:33 PM
I love Pietro but I honestly don't understand why anyone would use him in this with plenty of DC speedsters still available. Max Mercury, Kid Flash, Jesse Quick, and a bunch of others would make better middleweights and the Kingdom Come Flash would be at least even with Zoom if not more powerful.
Also, I can't believe I lost the Black Knight. Damn yous!! :mad:
So far the Sentry has sat in a cell in New Avengers. That's it. He hasn't even had any speech bubbles much less a show of what he can do.
AnnoyingSilence
12-19-2004, 12:42 PM
2) The Tremendous Ten – The Sentry (MU)am i missing something, i mean beside sentry not being able to be kill an all... the same golden man that taimed the hulk from what i understand
Sentry would walk all over Odin. Odin got owned when he and every other Asgardian and Olympian life force were inside The Destroyer, who was 2000 feet tall and wielding The Odin Sword, by The Celestials. Sentry stalemated Galactus who's well beyond The Celestials.
One of the best Speedsters in my opinion is Makkari.
He starts out with class 50 strength, which he can amp up. He's an Eternal, meaning total moleculer control. If you don't know how good that is, well, I've bragged about it enough as it is. We've also got cosmic energy maniplation, teleportation, he's a low level telekinetic, levitation, and, after he trained like a mother****er in Quasar, he could move at the speed of light. Awesome character as well, I mean, damn, he's so capable of having a mini it isn't even funny. Lot of experience as well, he reminds me a lot of Cassidy from Preacher.
am i missing something, i mean beside sentry not being able to be kill an all... the same golden man that taimed the hulk from what i understand
Not able to kill? Where did you get this from? He's like almost every other super person, he doesen't like to kill, he's not incapable of it.
XFanTim
12-19-2004, 12:49 PM
Very good choice with Zoom, one of the best ubers imaginable. :up:
Thanks. :)
Let me just take a moment to say how ecstatic I am about my picks.
(1) Firestorm -- a good strong character, but also one who I think I can really write creatively and have fun with (me being a physics student, after all)
(2) Zoom -- I really wanted a speedster, and of the ones available, he was my first choice.
(3) Sentry -- felt I had to get at least one all-around powerhouse, and I did. Maybe too much of a powerhouse, given what X has said about him -- but whatever, if I have to exchange him for someone, I can think of a few good possibilities.
(4) Darklore -- My who-the-hell-is-that pick. The DTL will definitely be the most exposure this guy has gotten. Plus, I wanted to get a magic user almost as bad as I wanted to get a speedster.
(5) AOA Iceman -- Basically, Iceman if he actually lived up to his potential. Gotta make for a pretty good middleweight. Plus, not to give away my strategy or anything, but I think Iceman and Firestorm have obvious combo potential.
(6) Polaris -- They keep upping her power level. I'd say right now she might even be stronger than Magneto was pre-Fatal Attractions. Definitely a high-end middleweight. Plus, she's an old fave of mine from her X-Factor days.
(7) Cannonball -- OK, I admit it: I mainly drafted him just on the basis of that Gladiator fight. But it showed what you can do with him if you're creative.
All in all, I couldn't be happier with this line-up. A lot of diverse powers, but also just a lot of people I think I'll really get a kick out of writing. The only downside of it all is that now if I get creamed every week, I won't be able to blame it on bad luck in the draft.
AnnoyingSilence
12-19-2004, 12:52 PM
casa got the mad picks...
Hyperion, very uber, very mean, very in charge
X-man, very powerful, not too creative but he pulled xaviers astral form into reality(something the phoenix never did)
AnnoyingSilence
12-19-2004, 12:53 PM
Not able to kill? Where did you get this from? He's like almost every other super person, he doesen't like to kill, he's not incapable of it.sorry i worded that wrong. not the first time... has anything be sides the void ever killed him?
You've got a damned good team going on there Tim. :) :up:
I honestly don't know who Darklore is. I looked a bit, but coulden't find much of anything. I have quite a bit Warlock stuff, haven't gotten around to reading a lot of it yet though.
Iceman, when he, was, well, Icegod, is awesome. Freezing The Stranger's eye blasts and what not, being just about impossible to kill... Great character.
One thing, how do you intend to make Zoom work with everyone else, and vice versa?
XFanTim
12-19-2004, 12:53 PM
By the way, I'm kind of perplexed by some people's drafting strategy. I expected everyone to draft the ubers first, like me. Oh well, I guess everyone got some of everything in the end.
JewishHobbit
12-19-2004, 01:03 PM
Darn You Tim! I was really hoping to get Polaris! Yeah, I thought about her after season 1 ended so I couldn't just drop Magik to pick her up but I was intending on it after the drafts were done. Hey, after the Filler draft would you be interested in a trade since you seem to like Magik welders. Magik (Amanda Sefton) has magik as well as the hordes of Limbo to use. She has the Soul Sward and she's a Marvel Middleweight as well. Just thought I'd throw that out there. Of coarse I want to see if I get a better Middleweight first, but the options there.
Oh, and after reading all the sentry stuff I would definately claim him as Way Too Uber! I wanted to pick him up myself but I remember having a conversation with X a while ago as well in which we both agreed he was too uber. But it's JB's final call.
AnnoyingSilence
12-19-2004, 01:17 PM
Exiles Rules
sorry i worded that wrong. not the first time... has anything be sides the void ever killed him?
Uhm, I don't think The Void killed him, Sentry actually overcame it and then Richards and Strange did the big retcon.
JewishHobbit
12-19-2004, 01:39 PM
Yeah, Void didn't kill him. My understanding is that the Void is the dark side of him that comes out every so often, though I don't remember why. It's a thread that terrifies everyone and all the times he's appeared only the Sentry was powerful enough to stop it. Then somehow the only way they could stop the Void was to erase Sentry's mind of who he is as well as the rest of the world's memory of Sentry or the void. This was the premise of the Sentry Limited Series was him regaining that memory as well as the rest of the world starting to remember him and off coarse the Void comes into play. It was an amazing story. I loved it!
JewishHobbit
12-19-2004, 01:47 PM
(7) Cannonball -- OK, I admit it: I mainly drafted him just on the basis of that Gladiator fight. But it showed what you can do with him if you're creative.
Cannonball's actually a great pick up. I debated picking him up a few times. Not only can he "blast" but he's invulnerable when doing it. He can focus that force in other ways now like behind a punch and such that results in one heck of a tough hitter. Plus what I liked best is that he's a great leader. That's something that's really needed in this thing. So far of those I recognize on your team he's the best fit leader of the bunch.
AnnoyingSilence
12-19-2004, 01:51 PM
Uhm, I don't think The Void killed him, Sentry actually overcame it and then Richards and Strange did the big retcon.you know what i mean... i know what happened i read the 12 issues or w/e... i have'm... i'm just pointing out that the only threat that sentry had, was the void(who was(by the heros opinions) about to annihilate them all).
AnnoyingSilence
12-19-2004, 01:52 PM
Yeah, Void didn't kill him. My understanding is that the Void is the dark side of him that comes out every so often, though I don't remember why. It's a thread that terrifies everyone and all the times he's appeared only the Sentry was powerful enough to stop it. Then somehow the only way they could stop the Void was to erase Sentry's mind of who he is as well as the rest of the world's memory of Sentry or the void. This was the premise of the Sentry Limited Series was him regaining that memory as well as the rest of the world starting to remember him and off coarse the Void comes into play. It was an amazing story. I loved it!he comes back when ever sentry remembers who he(himself) is.
AnnoyingSilence
12-19-2004, 02:00 PM
match starts
sentry remember who he is.... void is back... tie game no one wins
The Leaguer
12-19-2004, 02:02 PM
Quicksilver, after the whole Isotope thing, could run at Mach 12 or so. Might bump him up to being a Middleweight.
I thought he was middleweight. As far as using him instead of a DC speedster, say there are two DC regulars you'd like to use, but you still wan't a speedster. Also, generally, considering most of the people used don't have superspeed, it probably wouldn't make too much a difference just how fast the person could go.
On a personal note, awesome, no one took Asmodel or Flow! Not that I thought they would.
XFanTim
12-19-2004, 02:16 PM
Just out of curiosity, did anyone miss out on a pick because someone else took them first? Or did everyone get all their top choices?
XFanTim
12-19-2004, 02:48 PM
I honestly don't know who Darklore is. I looked a bit, but coulden't find much of anything. I have quite a bit Warlock stuff, haven't gotten around to reading a lot of it yet though.
Now I feel justified in calling him obscure, if even you don't know who he is, X. :)
I actually just wrote a long description of him, and then my damn computer decided to reset itself, so this is take 2:
Darklore's first appearance was in Warlock Chronicles #1 (which came out during Infinity Crusade, I think.) He didn't do much there, though. Found Warlock floating unconscious in space, had a nice little chat with the soul gem, which then tried to ditch Warlock as a host and jump to Darklore. But Warlock woke up and put a stop to that, he and Darklore exchanged some pleasantries, and each when on their merry way (with Darklore making some comment about how he forsaw their paths crossing again.)
The next (and so far as I know, last) time he showed up was in Warlock and the Infinity Watch. (I don't remember the issue numbers, but I have them burried somewhere.) There was an ongoing story in WATIW for a while about some inter-dimensional despot named Count Abyss who was determined to steal Warlock's soul gem. (He had traded his soul for ultimate power, and wanted to remember what it was like to have one, or something.) Darklore showed up for the final two issues of the Abyss storyline (final three if you count his boots visible in the last panel of one issue.) In one issue, Abyss basically trounced Darklore and the Watch, but in the next one they turned things around and beat him. Mainly it was just Warlock and Darklore who beat him, and Darklore basically explained that he had expected they'd probably lose the first time, and it was part of his plan. At any rate, with Abyss gone, Darklore took over as ruler of that universe (I can't remember if he just became ruler of Abyss's throneworld, or the whole universe, but in any case he ruled something.) Basically he'd done the whole thing so he'd have a nice place to retire. And that, so far as I know, is the last time he appeared in a comic.
Basically, I think I'm justified in portraying Darklore as a somewhat Dr. Strange-like mystic. Warlock himself at least vaguely compared Darklore and Strange, but it was more like "You should meet this guy Strange I know." But more to the point, Darklore was able to survive a battle with the near omnipotent Abyss, and working with Warlock eventually defeated him. So he's clearly no slouch. Also, he mentioned that he'd been wandering from one reality to the next accumulating magical knowledge for many centuries, so he clearly knows his stuff.
Some key differences between Darklore and Strange, though: (1) Darklore is less inclined to flowery invocations -- he doesn't seem to rely much on aid from higher powers. (2) Darklore does rely more heavily on magical artifacts that he's accumulated in his travels -- especially mystic amulets and talismans. At least, he used these a lot against Abyss -- but that may have just been because Abyss was so powerful that Darklore's own magic wasn't enough. (3) He has a little bit of a weakness in his reliance on his familiar, Meer'lyn. (Think the Wasp, but with magic.) Darklore uses her to help focus and channel his power. When Abyss blasted Meer'lyn, darklore lost control of the magical energies he was channeling and was temporarily knocked out. (Although I'm not completely sure if this would always happen, of if it was because he was channelling the extra energies of the magic talismans.) At any rate, Meer'lyn is pretty hardy herself -- she took the blast from the god-like Abyss and survived, recovering fully by the next issue.
At any rate, it will definitely be a little bit of guesswork at times to decide what Darklore can and can't do, but I think I can keep it reasonable.
One thing, how do you intend to make Zoom work with everyone else, and vice versa?
I'm definitely thinking of doing some sort of Beyonder-like scenario where some cosmic entity is offering an adequate reward to motivate the villains and an adequate threat to force the heroes to go along with it too, but I haven't really decided on the specifics yet. I also hope to be realistic in having the characters who are better team players or who have similar motivation use more teamwork, and the loners and me-first villains go it alone a bit more. But I think I can come up with enough justification to at least explain them all working towards the common goal of winning the battle.
Johnny Blaze
12-19-2004, 02:52 PM
A few people missed out, but I'm not at liberty to say who.
After reading the posts, Sentry is too Uber. Tim, you would've gotten Adam Warlock (with Soul Gem) in Sentry's place if he wasn't on your list, so to be fair you'll get him.
Smasher, I was going with what Roughneck had him marked under, but after reading a few profiles on him he'll be knocked down to Middleweight.
Quicksilver is indeed a Middleweight; I forgot that he was upgraded.
XFanTim
12-19-2004, 03:02 PM
OK, I can live with that. I've got some good ideas for Warlock (although I still think I'll use Darklore more)
Question: Right now I have 4 ubers, two mediums, and a regular. Clearly I need to get at least one DC regular just to field a full team, but have a used all my non-regular spots, or do I get another upper-level spot once we go to the next draft. In other words, am I limited to draft three regs, or will I be able to get another uber or med?
The Leaguer
12-19-2004, 03:04 PM
I'm pretty sure you can have whatever you want as long as you have what it takes to make at least one legal starting line-up.
Johnny Blaze
12-19-2004, 03:05 PM
You're maxed out on your Ubers and Middleweights, so you'll be drafting Regs in the Filler Draft. :up:
And that damn Shaun of the Dead popup is really starting to get on my nerves. :mad:
The Leaguer
12-19-2004, 03:05 PM
And that damn Shaun of the Dead popup is really starting to get on my nerves. :mad:
Hell yes. If I never see that movie, it's because of that pop-up.
Johnny Blaze
12-19-2004, 03:07 PM
It looks like a good movie, but those damn popups are making me hate it before it even comes out. :o :(
XFanTim
12-19-2004, 03:08 PM
And that damn Shaun of the Dead popup is really starting to get on my nerves.
No kidding! :mad: If I didn't click on it the first 20 times it appeared, do they really think the 21st time's the charm?! :mad:
The Leaguer
12-19-2004, 03:11 PM
I can't tell you how many times I've clicked on it without actually clicking on it. That thing comes up and I click across the damn screen and the damn page it links to pops up.
mikeyh89
12-19-2004, 03:44 PM
hey!
so thats my team?
Rogue
Batman
Superman
Elektra
Wolverine
Bizarro
and Lex?
if so, than yes!!!!! i love it! i know all of them! lol!
and then isnt there another draft where i get three more people or something? sorry i still dont have this all in my head. and sorry i havent been around but i've been christmas shopping.
There was a package in my mom's room with a ton of old X-Men comics! im so excited! sorry lol
JewishHobbit
12-19-2004, 03:49 PM
Yeah, I scanned down the page and clicked and still it opened. I hate it.
Oh, and Tim. You say that Darklore's magic seems dependant on Meer'lyn. Is Meer'lyn a separate person? If so you don't have her on your team as well so Darklore is without her (unless you draft her that is) Otherwise you'll have to write him as he would be without her, and I think you commented that he doesn't control his stuff well without her. Does that make sence or did I butcher what you wrote?
Gilrean
12-19-2004, 03:52 PM
Shaun of the Dead ROCKS, but the pop up is VERY irritating :(
Tropico
12-19-2004, 04:48 PM
If Shadowcat can include Lockheed when drafted I don't see why a magician couldn't include his familiar.
The Leaguer
12-19-2004, 04:48 PM
hey!
so thats my team?
Rogue
Batman
Superman
Elektra
Wolverine
Bizarro
and Lex?
if so, than yes!!!!! i love it! i know all of them! lol!
and then isnt there another draft where i get three more people or something? sorry i still dont have this all in my head. and sorry i havent been around but i've been christmas shopping.
There was a package in my mom's room with a ton of old X-Men comics! im so excited! sorry lol
Yep, that's your team. Tomorrow there will be another draft and everyone will get three more characters.
The Leaguer
12-19-2004, 04:53 PM
Hang on, is Rogue uber? She seems qualifiable as middleweight to me.
If Shadowcat can include Lockheed when drafted I don't see why a magician couldn't include his familiar.
But really, what is Lockheed going to do? That's more of a bonus kind of joke thing, if anything. Kind of like Spider-Man having his Spider Mobile. :D
And Rouge is a Middleweight.
The Leaguer
12-19-2004, 06:00 PM
That's what I thought. If that's the case, mikey will need a Marvel uber.
Johnny Blaze
12-19-2004, 07:43 PM
You don't have to have any Ubers if you don't want to.
And as for the familiar thing...after thinking on it some more I'd have to say that you'll have to draft her seperately. Especially if she is indeed like the wasp but with magical powers.
And after the final draft is over we have to find one more person to take CobraCommander's old spot.
The Leaguer
12-19-2004, 07:47 PM
Oh, yeah, I keep forgetting about the unrequired Ubers thing.
Johnny Blaze
12-19-2004, 07:49 PM
Middleweights as well; you can downgrade all you want, just no upgrading. Hell, you could have a team totally comprised of Regs if you so wished. :up:
The Leaguer
12-19-2004, 07:50 PM
Yeah, I'm always reminding people of that fact. For some reason, I convinced myself he needed an Uber this time.
Johnny Blaze
12-19-2004, 08:00 PM
So, anybody know of someone who might be interested in putting together a team when the drafts are all over?
Oh, another thing regarding Odin. He was once posessed, being amped up by an outside source, even more powerful then he normally is. And, he was going all out, killer like. Thor and The Warriors Three (Volstagg, Fandral and Hogun) managed to stop him.
mikeyh89
12-19-2004, 09:16 PM
well thanks JB! lol i love my team!
so how does the next draft work? do i need to send in a new list or do you just give me three more or do we pick? i dunno if this was explained to me, but i'll look in my PM box cuz the rules are still there.
Merry Christmas everyone! :p :) ;)
Johnny Blaze
12-19-2004, 09:21 PM
You don't have to send me another list unless you want to.
The Filler Draft should be up tomorrow around noonish EST.
JewishHobbit
12-19-2004, 09:34 PM
What is the limit of Ubers again and does it matter how many of each company you have? I should know this but I was actually never aware of there being any more option than 4 ubers or less, and the rest Regs. I'm still thinking you can only have 2 DC Ubers and 2 Marvel Ubers and that's max on Ubers but I just want to be sure.
Well, if anybody needs any proof how badass Betta Ray Bill is this, check this out, him going against The eventual Odin Killer Fenris.
http://photobucket.com/albums/v39/bmovie_buff/?action=view¤t=BillRocks1.jpg
http://photobucket.com/albums/v39/bmovie_buff/?action=view¤t=BillRocks2.jpg
http://photobucket.com/albums/v39/bmovie_buff/?action=view¤t=BillRocks3.jpg
http://photobucket.com/albums/v39/bmovie_buff/?action=view¤t=BillRocks4.jpg
JewishHobbit
12-19-2004, 09:48 PM
I'm not a big fan of thor really but I do have the Ragnorak arc and that scene was just plain awsome. I've always been currious about Bill and I'm glad that he's the sould survivor of Asguard or whatever Thor's sect of the mystic woods is. He has a book coming up soon, is it a limited or ongoing? If it's limited I might get it.
Limited series.
I'll be picking it up myself.
Johnny Blaze
12-19-2004, 10:08 PM
****in' A. Bill kicks all kinds of ass; I've always liked him. :D
And after thinking on, I guess I'll take the too Uber tag off of Odin.
JewishHobbit
12-19-2004, 10:11 PM
Then I'll probably get it. I like the character but I don't have the funds to start up on an ongoing. I figure if I don't get started I won't miss it. But if it's limited I can get it. I'm also trying to limit my spending of the titles I get now or have planned to start getting because I'm thinking that after christmas I may do the unthinkable and actually start picking up some DC comics (after 8 years of being anti-DC). I've picked up some over the years, but mostly for art (Hush and current Superman) or popularity (Identity Crisis, Death of Superman). I think I may start regularly collecting either JLA, Flash, or Green Arrow as those interest me. What do you DC readers think? What's some good ongoings? Actually just PM them to me as I don't want to fill this thread with off-topic chat.
JewishHobbit
12-19-2004, 10:12 PM
Then could you put Odin at the top of my list..... kidding, I don't know enough about him to use him so I don't want him. At least not for now. I'm still debating on the other character I've been PMing you about. Tell you what, if it's possible for me to get another Marvel Uber on my team add that character below Flash (Barry Allen) please. Thanks.
Ah, cool, cool.
I think telepathy would be another good way to go against Odin, he's going to be a tricky player. Like The Fury, C-Man, Thor (If someone knows how to use him) and so on. I mean, telepathy and the sort isn't as effective against Asgardians as others, they have the whole reinforced spirit thing going on. But, still, Moondragon or Fernus could put him on his knees. Odin Force has always been shown to be pretty easy to negate as well, with Odin and King Thor, so Fate or Strange or Shaznar could have fun with that. Also take into consideration Odin is a ****ing awesome leader, up there with Cap, and he's got knowledge to spare.
JewishHobbit
12-19-2004, 10:16 PM
Man,... I've pretty much been under the notion that Odin was pretty much unbeatable. I'm going to have to be creative against him if/when someone gets him. But I'm a pretty creative/resourceful person when I have to be, so it can be done. I don't know how exactly but I'm sure I can rig something up.
He's up there, but Strange is the exact same way. Take this into consideration, Strange has beaten Death, a being who can challenge Eternity, and a being bonded to an entire reality. Impressive, eh?
Here's a tip, stab Odin. He's not crazy super durable against bladed weapons (Thor lost an arm to Wolverine) hell, you could have just about any speedster inbed an I-Beam into his chest. He'll go down fighting, holding onto it with one arm still fighting, but still.
TheCorpulent1
12-19-2004, 11:32 PM
Those Bill pics were nice, although Thor was really shown to be the badass to end all badasses in "Ragnarok." If nothing else, I've gotta compliment Oeming on showing readers a little of what Thor can really do. Bill took down Fenris easily but Thor handled Fenris, Ulik, and a Giant king simultaneously while they all had magical weapons almost as powerful as Mjolnir at the beginning of that arc. I damn near fell out of my chair when I found out he didn't even have the Odinpower for that. :eek:
Johnny Blaze
12-20-2004, 12:06 AM
You know what, **** it.
I'll be posting the draft results for the Filler in a minute. I know I said a 24 hour wait in between the drafts, but it's not that big of a deal. Plus the sooner the drafts are behind us we can move on.
So, give me a minute and the Filler results will be up...
Johnny Blaze
12-20-2004, 12:09 AM
Filler Draft Results
Round 1
1) The Empire – Ares (DU)
2) The Atomics – Clea (MM) (F)
3) Dwarf Lord’s Destroyers – Hourman (Rex Tyler) (DR)
4) The Tremendous Ten – Havok (MR)
5) The Odd Alliance – Flash (Barry Allen) (DU)
6) Chaos & Order – Apocalypse (MU)
7) The New Defenders – Absorbing Man (Earth X) (MU)
8) Canned Mojo! – Swamp Thing (DU)
9) Devastating Silence – Forge (MR)
10) The Yancy Street Gang – The Thing (MM)
11) Casa Mare – Rachel Summers (MM) (F)
12) The Mondo Funkies – Johnny Storm (w/ Power Cosmic and Sue’s powers) (MU)
13) The He-Naners – Archangel (current version) (MR)
14) Claws of Veeshan – Aztek (DM)
15) The Atomic Punks – Shadowcat (MR) (F)
16) Mikey’s Marauders – Dazzler (MR) (F)
17) Black’s Storm – Strange Visitor (DU) (F)
18) The Blazing Horde – The Persuader (DM)
19) Neverwhere – Bloodstone (MR)
20) The Immortal Guyvers – Xemnu (MU)
21) Justice Supreme Ver.2 – Union Jack (Knights of Pendragon) (MR)
Round 2
1) Justice Supreme Ver.2 – Gambit (MR)
2) The Immortal Guyvers – Ultimate Doctor Octopus (MR)
3) Neverwhere – Black Tom (plant form) (MM)
4) The Blazing Horde – Batman (1 million) (DR)
5) Black’s Storm – Plastic Man (DM)
6) Mikey’s Marauders – Firestar (MR) (F)
7) The Atomic Punks – Amazing Man II (DR)
8) Claws of Veeshan – Queen of Fables (DU) (F)
9) The He-Naners – Blue Diamond (WWII era) (MM)
10) The Mondo Funkies – Midniter (DR)
11) Casa Mare – Zatanna (DU) (F)
12) The Yancy Street Gang – Modulus (MU)
13) Devastating Silence – Locus (MR) (F)
14) Canned Mojo! – Kid Flash (Bart Allen) (DM)
15) The New Defenders – Aquarian (MR)
16) Chaos & Order – Scarlet Spider (MR)
17) The Odd Alliance – Green Arrow (Oliver Queen) (DR)
18) The Tremendous Ten – Aurora (MR) (F)
19) Dwarf Lord’s Destroyers – Star Girl (DR) (F)
20) The Atomics – Lord Blackbolt (MU)
21) The Empire – Patriarch (MR)
Round 3
1) The Empire – Balder (MM)
2) The Atomics – Doctor Octopus (MR)
3) Dwarf Lord’s Destroyers – Uncle Sam (DR)
4) The Tremendous Ten – Gamora (MR) (F)
5) The Odd Alliance – Storm (MM) (F)
6) Chaos & Order – Typhoid Mary (MR) (F)
7) The New Defenders – Devil Slayer (MR)
8) Canned Mojo! – Mr. Terrific (Michael Holt) (DR)
9) Devastating Silence – The Spot (MR)
10) The Yancy Street Gang – Empath (MR)
11) Casa Mare – Black Canary II (DR) (F)
12) The Mondo Funkies – Jesse Custer (DM)
13) The He-Naners – Cutthroat (MR)
14) Claws of Veeshan – Constrictor (MR)
15) The Atomic Punks – Circe (DM) (F)
16) Mikey’s Marauders – Abomination (MU)
17) Black’s Storm – Binary (MM) (F)
18) The Blazing Horde – The General (DU)
19) Neverwhere – Maxima (DM) (F)
20) The Immortal Guyvers – Kingpin (MR)
21) Justice Supreme Ver.2 – Black Adam (DU)
Johnny Blaze
12-20-2004, 12:13 AM
Free Agency Open
And with the drafts finished, Free Agency is now open again. In other words, you can now cut/add characters again. :up:
Just make sure all roster moves are done in the Transaction Thread.
Yes! Very ****ing nice! :D :up: Thanks Blaze. :)
Few things. You might want to consider Binary as an uber. She created a star in a Quasar comic, was filtering out all of this anti-matter with him. Impressive stuff.
Gamora is definitely not a regular. She was said to have Iron Man like strength, and knocked out The Thing and Night Thrasher with a tap, Sasquatch as well. She also went toe to toe with Thanos, neither one holding back. If she's got her gem, she's easily an uber.
And that's about it actually.
:)
The Leaguer
12-20-2004, 12:20 AM
Sweeeeeeet.
Now, SOMEONE TRADE ME ZAURIEL OR BLOOD WILL BE SPILLED!
Unless, of course, Elijya wants to keep him. Or Corp decides he wants him. But if not, you know, the blood thing.
Franklin Richards
12-20-2004, 12:25 AM
Ok... I got Lex stole from me. :mad: Now what the heck do I need for my team.
Doom w/power cosmic MU
Modulus MU
Saturn Girl DU F
Supergirl DU F
The Thing MM
Mr. Fantastic MR
The Human Torch MR
Brainiac-5 DR
...is my roster full or do I need another regular?
:thing: :doom: :thing:
TheCorpulent1
12-20-2004, 12:26 AM
Gamora strikes me as Marvel's Karate Kid. Martial artist to such an extreme that she's cosmic level. Although she's not quite Karate Kid's level, considering she probably wouldn't have dented Thanos without that badass dagger.
The Empire's shaping up nicely, if I do say so myself. Ares, Balder, and Patriarch all reek of badassness.
Johnny Blaze
12-20-2004, 12:29 AM
Ok... I got Lex stole from me. :mad: Now what the heck do I need for my team.
Doom w/power cosmic MU
Modulus MU
Saturn Girl DU F
Supergirl DU F
The Thing MM
Mr. Fantastic MR
The Human Torch MR
Brainiac-5 DR
...is my roster full or do I need another regular?
:thing: :doom: :thing: You also have Empath.
And you need at least one more Reg or Middleweight.
Franklin Richards
12-20-2004, 12:31 AM
Is Star Sapphire a Middle or Uber?
Info and pick on the way about Modulus, X.
:thing: :doom: :thing:
Gamora strikes me as Marvel's Karate Kid. Martial artist to such an extreme that she's cosmic level. Although she's not quite Karate Kid's level, considering she probably wouldn't have dented Thanos without that badass dagger.
The Empire's shaping up nicely, if I do say so myself. Ares, Balder, and Patriarch all reek of badassness.
That dagger could of killed The Magus, who was beating up on Thanos. It more then capable of killing Thanos too.
I was going to host these myself, didn't want to be a bandwith whore, but meh, check it out, a Gamora Respect Thread.
http://www.comicboards.com/surfer/view.php?msg=040905192923
And Gamora isn't human, Karate Kid is. Gamora has strength implants and what not.
Is Star Sapphire a Middle or Uber?
Info and pick on the way about Modulus, X.
:thing: :doom: :thing:
Okay, thanks.
And out of curiousity, who be Circe, Locus, and Strange Visitor?
Johnny Blaze
12-20-2004, 12:36 AM
Star Sapphire is a Middleweight.
The Leaguer
12-20-2004, 12:38 AM
Isn't Strange Visitor the energy Superman had when he was Electro-smurf given life?
Ah, you be correct. I knew who she was, vaugley. She's got a bio at spider-bob. :up:
Franklin Richards
12-20-2004, 12:40 AM
He appears in Fantastic Four 62,63, and 64 <491, 492, and 493>.
Modulus was born via Reed's special PDA. Reed's comments on this are, "This PDA has a rather unique -- and large -- hard drive. It's subspatially linked to an entire electrochemical dimension devoid of life."
Here's all the quotes from the arc refering to him and his powers.
Quote:
I am the modulus that defnines Reed Richards. The result of his ideas. The sum of his thoughts and his reflections.
It has the power to seperate objects and people into their raw chemical components.
The FF is under attack by a "living equation" named Modulus, an electrochemical creature capable of performing "arithmatic tasks" such as subracting oxygen from the air or divinding Sue's hand into it's component molecules.
To this end Modulus did various arithmatic tasks such as :
Adding Johnny's flame to Ben's mobile vending cart that he was throwing. Basically a way to direct other peoples powers onto other objects.
Subtracting oxygen and vehicles. He simply started choking the FF. With the vehicles they were sheared in half.
Multiplying two stories of a building into twelve. The building crashed down on Ben and Johnny.
Dividing the Invisible Woman's forcefield enough to simply pass through it and cause her pain.
His body is a sort of combination of Reed Richards and Carnage with a green tint and a bunch of algebraic expressions across his body. He seems to stretch to Reed proportions and he can shoot pieces of himself as forms of attack. He overloaded Reed's brain for a short span.
http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v418/AuntPetunia/Fantastic%20Four/FF_63.jpg
Above are some of the aspects I sold to Blaze.
Anywho. If some of you scanner boys wanna put in some more pics of Modulus, that would be great.
:thing: :doom: :thing:
Very, very nice Petunia. Helluva choice. :up:
Franklin Richards
12-20-2004, 12:47 AM
Very, very nice Petunia. Helluva choice. :up:
Thanks X! I figured you of all people would applaud my "obscure" choice of a real bad ass. The possibilities with Modulus and my brain trust (minus Lex :mad: ) are almost limitless. :D
Oh... and by the way. I can now use my thing smilies in the DTL Threads! WOOT!!!!
:thing: :doom: :thing:
The Leaguer
12-20-2004, 12:49 AM
Plastic Man and Batman One Million are two awesome choices. I'm relieved I landed Aztek, I was afraid someone else would try to grab him.
Johnny Blaze
12-20-2004, 12:55 AM
I was considering going after Aztek for a time before the draft, but I decided to go with Bats 1 mil instead.
From what I read on Aztek, he's an awesome Middleweight. :up:
Roughneck
12-20-2004, 12:55 AM
the He-Naners
http://www.superherohype.com/forums/image.php?u=12981&dateline=1093847159
Namor (MM) - The guy stopped an ocean liner from sinking into a black hole with his bare hands. And he has the powers of every animal in the ocean, that means more ink.
Sabertooth (MR) - The guy is ruthless and recently had his healing factor upped by weapon X.
Kilawog (DU) - He is a freeking Green Lantern. Limited only by my imagination.
Smasher (MM) - He may me a middleweight but he is a damn high middle.
Black Knight - Please keep in mind X-men Vs Avengers #2 (I think) Wolverines claws coulnd't cut through the Ebony Blade.
Oracle (DR) - I may have made a bad choice.........or have I.
Quicksilver (MR) - Not only can he run at highspeeds he also thinks at them. The guy should be leading a team.
Archangel (MR) - A goose's wing can break a mans arm. Nuff Said. Plus now he has the healing blood. Thank you Austen.
Blue Diamond - Thanks to the Official guide to the marvel Universe: Golden Age, some of you may now know who this is. He has diamond hard skin.
Cutthroat - He has an Adamantium sword and I think he's cool.
Boy the He-Naners is like my version of the New Avengers. A bunch of folks that suck but are all my favorites. I look forward to seeing what I can do with them.
Am I going to have to use Oracle in every battle?
Johnny Blaze
12-20-2004, 12:58 AM
No, from your 10 character roster, you'll choose 5 each week as your starting lineup.
The basic template for a starting lineup is:
1 Marvel Uber
1 DC Uber
1 Marvel Regular
1 DC Regular
1 Marvel or DC Middleweight
And one of them must be a female character.
Like with the rosters, you can down grade character classes as much as you wish here as well.
The Leaguer
12-20-2004, 01:01 AM
I was considering going after Aztek for a time before the draft, but I decided to go with Bats 1 mil instead.
From what I read on Aztek, he's an awesome Middleweight. :up:
Yeah, I remember you asking about him back before I read his series. He's a beast of a Middleweight. I'll post a detailed description of his abilities, along with my other obscure characters (Asmodel and Flow) once I figure out the fate of Zauriel.
Johnny Blaze
12-20-2004, 01:03 AM
Heh, you better be ready to scoop the angel up once Elijya gives him the boot or Corp might beat you to him. :D
The Leaguer
12-20-2004, 01:05 AM
Heh, I already told Corp that he can have Zauriel if he wants him as a standing offer. I'll be all over Zauriel if (and when) Elijya drops him and I'll make sure Corp doesn't want him before I make any plans.
Roughneck
12-20-2004, 01:07 AM
So if Oracle is my only Female I have to use her. Damn.
Johnny Blaze
12-20-2004, 01:07 AM
Heh, good to see some good sportsmanship between opponents. :D
And now that the drafts are over...
It's time to find someone to take over CobraCommander's spot. :o
Johnny Blaze
12-20-2004, 01:09 AM
So if Oracle is my only Female I have to use her. Damn.
Yeah, you're pretty much screwed there.
There's plenty of time though before the season begins, so you can always cut her or someone else and get another female. :up:
The Leaguer
12-20-2004, 01:11 AM
Well, I figure it's only fair.
Roughneck
12-20-2004, 01:18 AM
How does that work. I just cut someone and take some one else that is available. Geez I also only have the two DC folks. So I am stuck with Kilawog too. Not that that is a real problem.
The Leaguer
12-20-2004, 01:18 AM
Go to the Front Office thread and state who you are dropping and their rank, then say who you are picking up and their rank.
Johnny Blaze
12-20-2004, 01:26 AM
Yeah, just as long as the transaction is legal, you can get any Marvel or DC character you want. :up:
For example, if you wanted to drop Oracle for Lady Shiva you'd go...
Cut: Oracle (DR) (F)
Add: Lady Shiva (DR) (F)
The Leaguer
12-20-2004, 01:29 AM
I suggest Batgirl, if she hasn't already been taken. Cassandra Cain is very, very, very badass.
AnnoyingSilence
12-20-2004, 01:29 AM
9) Devastating Silence – Forge (MR)
13) Devastating Silence – Locus (MR) (F)
9) Devastating Silence – The Spot (MR)>spa-lat<
AWWW, MAN... now i gotta buy a new keyboard:(
AnnoyingSilence
12-20-2004, 01:31 AM
[at JB's feet]i'm not worthy[/at JB's feet]
Johnny Blaze
12-20-2004, 01:33 AM
[at JB's feet]i'm not worthy[/at JB's feet]
Well, at least you admit to it. :p :D
AnnoyingSilence
12-20-2004, 01:48 AM
now i know that this has been covered before, but i gotta ask again...
during pre-battle can you gain access via the internet(the characters) or another character from the universes?
AnnoyingSilence
12-20-2004, 01:49 AM
Well, at least you admit to it. :p :Dits only temperary(week 1)
The Leaguer
12-20-2004, 01:50 AM
You can't do anything that involves another person. You can use any other information database, though. Like the internet, or SHIELD and the JLA's databases.
Johnny Blaze
12-20-2004, 01:58 AM
I don't see why a character can't use the internet. It wouldn't help much though, since most of the characters are not generally known to the public.
All in all it would be better and easier to use other sources, like SHIELD, JLA files, government files, Avenger files, etc.
The Leaguer
12-20-2004, 02:07 AM
So when is the first match up? I'm all excited now.
AnnoyingSilence
12-20-2004, 02:20 AM
I don't see why a character can't use the internet. It wouldn't help much though, since most of the characters are not generally known to the public.
All in all it would be better and easier to use other sources, like SHIELD, JLA files, government files, Avenger files, etc.ty, thats exactly what i had in mind with one idea... next one... boom tubes, do they increase your speed an how short can they be?
The Leaguer
12-20-2004, 02:23 AM
Boom tubes essentially create wormholes. They don't speed you up.
AnnoyingSilence
12-20-2004, 02:31 AM
thats too bad, knock down 1 idea
XFanTim
12-20-2004, 02:40 AM
OK -- a couple of things:
In defense of Gamora as a regular -- yes, her strength has been estimated to be at Iron Man's base level, but she has no other powers that I know of -- just a skilled hand-to-hand combatant. I'm not aware of her having any kind of enhanced durability (although I could be wrong), and she has no long range attacks or anything like that. While she did take down the Thing with one blow (using pressure points), she herself admitted she would never have even gotten close to him if he hadn't been focussed on fighting Sasquatch.
But, you know, if I can't use her as a regular, it's not a big deal. I need to drop one regular anyway to pick up a DC reg. That was actually going to be my one change -- to request that JB use my last pick to get a DC regular, but since he did the draft earlier than expected, I didn't get a chance to say so. Whatever, I can just drop someone and pick up a regular.
Now about Meer'lyn:
I strongly disagree that she should be treated as a separate character, for the simple reason that she can't do anything other than assist Darklore. She basically just flies around and zaps at whoever he's fighting. (Plus she can do other things like retreive objects for him and whatnot.) But they are completely inseparable -- it's not as if he can send her to go fight with someone else -- she won't leave his side when he's in battle. As far as what I mean by "like the Wasp with magic", I mean she's small, has wings, and shoots energy bolts from her hands -- except the energy bolts are magical (and she's a magical creature in general, as opposed to the product of science). She doesn't "cast spells" or anything though. And even though she's setient, I really consider her more of an accessory of Darklore's than a separate character. I mean, she literally never does anything except fly around Darklore and help him out.
My real problem is that if I want to portray Darklore accurately, he and Meer'lyn have a symbiotic dependence on each other. When Meer'lyn got zapped by Count Abyss, Darklore got zapped by some sort of feedback from his own powers and was knocked out. So this at least makes it seem like Darklore needs her there to keep his powers under control. Again, I'm drawing that conlusion from one incident, but that's really all I have to go on. I'm not even sure to what degree if at all Darklore's powers would be limited without her. At any rate, if you wanted to say I can't use Meer'lyn but could assume Darklore has full access to his powers without her, I guess I could live with that. But I don't think it would really be an accurate portrayal of the character -- plus, I think if anything Meer'lyn is as much a vulnerability to Darklore as a strength, since she is more easily injured than he is, and her getting hurt seems to hurt him. In the three or four issues Darklore appeared in, the one time he was taken down was when Count Abyss zapped Meer'lyn. At any rate, the reason I want her is more for the sake of portraying the character accurately than for any advantage I get from having her -- although of course if I have her I will do my best to find ways to make her presence useful. But she's mostly useful in the basic sense of "While Darklore's zapping someone from the front Meer'lyn flies around and zaps them from behind."
LadyVader
12-20-2004, 04:12 AM
yess... I got everybody I wanted!
thank you Santa!
and mr Blaze. :)
Tropico
12-20-2004, 05:50 AM
But really, what is Lockheed going to do? That's more of a bonus kind of joke thing, if anything. Kind of like Spider-Man having his Spider Mobile. :D
And Rouge is a Middleweight.
I disagree. Lockheed has taken on Sidri hunters with more success than members of the X-Men. Check out what he did in Asonishing also if you think he's a joke. Sure, the bad guy's reaction was funny; but it had a base in something that wasn't funny. I don't know if Lockheed's fire has been rated, I think it kinda fluctuates from writer to writer.
XFanTim
12-20-2004, 07:50 AM
Gah! I have so much grading to do (I'm a physics TA), and all I can think about is who am I gonna pick up for my DC regular, who's going to be my starting line-up for week one, how am I gonna handle JH's team, etc., etc. If I can't find some way to focus, I may have to just say the hell with it and give all my students A's. In which case, I'll be sure to tell them they can thank the DTL. ;)
mikeyh89
12-20-2004, 08:56 AM
cool! i like my team!
sure, they arent the best but they will work
what thread has the order of matches and that stuff?
TheCorpulent1
12-20-2004, 09:21 AM
Heh, good to see some good sportsmanship between opponents. :D
And now that the drafts are over...
It's time to find someone to take over CobraCommander's spot. :o
All right, I talked it over with Darthphere and decided I'm gonna fly solo with CobraCommander's team if you'll let me, JB. I'm gonna start checking out some characters now that I've pretty much given away all the ones I like to other people. :o I should be able to whip a team up through free trades before the first match with no problem.
Ahura Mazda
12-20-2004, 10:00 AM
And if it is decided to allow the Gods from mythology can we refer back to mythology with regard to their powers?
Also meaning that could we refer to mythology rather than the comics (Zeus being considerably more powerful than Herc).
And any suggestions for a good Middleweight?
TheCorpulent1
12-20-2004, 10:09 AM
Uh... I think that should be a no, personally. The comic incarnations are pretty much the canon as far as the DTL is concerned. Start mixing and matching with mythology and you end up with Thor as a drunken and seriously less-powerful retard and Odin as a double-dealing cheater in just about everything he does. If you want a more powerful Zeus, why not pick up the DC version? I think he's pretty hardcore.
XFanTim
12-20-2004, 10:41 AM
Was anyone talking about allowing gods from mythology? I assume we're only allowing comic book characters. Marvel's Odin isn't a mythological character, he's a comic book character based on a mythological character. So stories about the mythological Odin aren't really relevant.
[Edit: This is meant to be in response to Ahura, by the way.]
TheCorpulent1
12-20-2004, 10:47 AM
Yeah. Referencing mythological stuff wouldn't be bad, like talking about deeds the characters did in mythology but never showed up in a comic, but the characters themselves should be limited to their comic selves' powers, temperament, and personality.
The Leaguer
12-20-2004, 11:49 AM
Hey Corp, since you'll have your own team, remember the offer on Zauriel still stands. If you still want him, don't worry, there's someone else I've also got my eye on. Of course, this is all assuming Elijya even drops him.
Gamora does have enhanced durability, she once took a shot from an amped up Drax. Drax normally is well beyond The Hulk, and he once KO'ed The Champion of the Universe, one casual punch. He was in Adam's Soul Gem when he and Gamora fought, as the pictures show in that link I posted. Drax had the power to destroy that entire mini reality then. Gamora still took a punch from him and wasn't out for too long.
Meh, I don't know. Gamora could be a regular, I guess, the Iron Man strength thing seems kind of...out there. Mantis is a normal human woman, and she once took Thor out for a few moments with a really deadly nerve strike.
Johnny Blaze
12-20-2004, 12:20 PM
Well, I'm gonna keep Gamora as a Reg.
Corp: If you want the spot it's yours. Just post up your team in the Transaction thread once you've got them together. :up:
And regarding Meer'lyn...how powerful are her bolts?
TheCorpulent1
12-20-2004, 12:25 PM
Sweet, thanks. I'm gonna start adding people over there now.
Well, here's a Devil Slayer bio for anyone who's interested. He's got low level super human strength (He once bench pressed The Hulk, grabbed onto his arms and just lifted him up) he's a low level telepath and telekinetic. He's also got enhanced durability, as he's been thrown around by The Hulk. And his shadow cloak lets him "Draw any weapon from any time peroid". He's drawn everyting from maces to hi tech guns from it.
http://home.flash.net/~jeanneb/d.html
And Aquarian...
http://marveldirectory.com/individuals/a/aquarian.htm
Franklin Richards
12-20-2004, 12:32 PM
We ever decide on that Home/Away team thing yet?
:thing: :doom: :thing:
Franklin Richards
12-20-2004, 12:34 PM
The Shadow Cloak is the best. I love the old Defender days with him. If I remember, Hellcat had one for a while too. That was great fun. In Marvel continuity, I believe Hellcat folded hers in upon itself too. Would be great if someone found it today. :D
:thing: :doom: :thing:
The Leaguer
12-20-2004, 12:36 PM
Hey Corp, since you'll have your own team, remember the offer on Zauriel still stands. If you still want him, don't worry, there's someone else I've also got my eye on. Of course, this is all assuming Elijya even drops him.
Corp! Pay attention! :mad: ;)
mikeyh89
12-20-2004, 12:52 PM
nvm, i found the thread
Aunt Petunia, im sooooo sorry i got Lex, i know you wanted him, :( :oo
The Shadow Cloak is the best. I love the old Defender days with him. If I remember, Hellcat had one for a while too. That was great fun. In Marvel continuity, I believe Hellcat folded hers in upon itself too. Would be great if someone found it today. :D
:thing: :doom: :thing:
Nice! :) :up:
Yeah, Eric lost his for a while too, then got it back a few years ago in Man-Thing vol. 3, he was...well...pretty much reborn. His days as a Hitman, accidently killing that mother and her kids, his wife Cory dying, him being a wandering alchoholic, all were kind of wiped off the slate for him. Also revealed quite a bit about Eric's childhood. The very last we saw of him was when he crawled to Dr. Strange's door, he had a dagger inbedded in his chest by The Silver Dagger, a Dr. Strange foe.
Johnny Blaze
12-20-2004, 12:58 PM
For those of you who are too freakin' lazy to look in the Update thread, here's the matchups for week 1...
Week 1 (Division)
The Yancy Street Gang Vs Claws of Veeshan
Canned Mojo! Vs Casa Mare
The He-Naners Vs Chaos & Order
The Empire Vs Mikey’s Marauders
Black’s Storm Vs The Immortal Guyvers
The Atomics Vs Batnkevlar’s Team
Dwarf Lord’s Destroyers Vs The New Defenders
The Odd Alliance Vs The Tremendous Ten
The Blazing Horde Vs Devastating Silence
Neverwhere Vs The Mystic Creampuffs
Justice Supreme Ver.2 Vs The Mondo Funkies
Bearers of the Flame Vs The Atomic Punks
Hahaha, I've been meaning to post this since last night.
I guess this would be the time to start giving me starting line up's again. :)
Franklin Richards
12-20-2004, 01:03 PM
So... Home/Away games? Homefield advantage? Away team posts first? We doing that or next year? As a member of the Founder's Council I suggest we do it. :cool:
:thing: :doom: :thing:
Johnny Blaze
12-20-2004, 01:06 PM
Naw, just post your starting lineup and you can always make changes to it up until the deadline.
Johnny Blaze
12-20-2004, 01:11 PM
But, if somebody tries to be a dick and waits until the final minute to post their lineup, I'll allow the opposing team one chance to make changes.
This way everyone should be encouraged to get their starting lineups in quickly.
The Leaguer
12-20-2004, 01:12 PM
I shall be the first of Season 2 to post my line-up!
Claws of Veeshan week 1 starting line-up:
Silver Surfer (MU)
Fernus the Burning (DU)
Carnage (MR)
Aztek (DM)
Thunder (DR) (F)
Guess I'll be the first. :)
Aza Chorn (MU)
Composite Man (DU)
Devil Slayer (MR)
Animal Man (DR)
Scarlet Witch (MM) (F)
The Leaguer
12-20-2004, 01:16 PM
Hahahahahha, pwnt!
I shall be the first of Season 2 to post my line-up!
Claws of Veeshan week 1 starting line-up:
Silver Surfer (MU)
Fernus the Burning (DU)
Carnage (MR)
Aztek (DM)
Thunder (DR) (F)
Bastard! :mad: :D
Johnny Blaze
12-20-2004, 01:17 PM
We still have a ways to go before the season starts, but...eh, why not.
The Blazing Horde
Thanos
Amazo
Batman (1 Million)
Jaine Cutter
The Persauder
TheCorpulent1
12-20-2004, 01:26 PM
Corp! Pay attention! :mad: ;)
Oh, sorry. No, you go for it dude. I'd just feel wrong keeping the two of you apart. :) Besides, I've got my sights set on some other people.
XFanTim
12-20-2004, 01:28 PM
What's the deadline for when we need to have our lineups in by? And when do our week 1 write-ups need to be done?
Franklin Richards
12-20-2004, 01:30 PM
Thought we did Starting Lineups in the Office Thread?
:thing: :doom: :thing:
The Leaguer
12-20-2004, 01:31 PM
Oh, sorry. No, you go for it dude. I'd just feel wrong keeping the two of you apart. :) Besides, I've got my sights set on some other people.
If you change your mind, tell me.
Johnny Blaze
12-20-2004, 01:35 PM
Thought we did Starting Lineups in the Office Thread?
:thing: :doom: :thing:
We do, but it's been so long I guess we forgot. :(
And there is no deadline at the moment. Some people still need to add a character to their team.
And we still need 2 more teams.
Franklin Richards
12-20-2004, 01:38 PM
So... technically, I'M the first one to post their starting lineup. Bwahahaha :D
:thing: :doom: :thing:
XFanTim
12-20-2004, 01:41 PM
And regarding Meer'lyn...how powerful are her bolts?I'll get back to you on that . . . I need to find where I've stashed the issues she was in, since I don't really remember off the top of my head.
The Leaguer
12-20-2004, 01:41 PM
No! I get the credit! I am the first!
Johnny Blaze
12-20-2004, 01:46 PM
Oh, how I've missed the playful bickering of the DTL. :)
XFanTim
12-20-2004, 01:55 PM
So, I need to cut one Marvel regular and add a DC regular. I'm having a hard time deciding on both counts, and would love to hear anyone's advice (either on who you think I should drop, or some suggestions of who I might consider picking up.) I make no guarantee that I'll actually follow your advice, though.
My marvel regs:
Cannonball
Havok
Aurora
Gamora
I had a bunch of DC regs on my draft list, but that was when I thought that that would have to be my female. Now that I have two marvel female regulars and a female medium, I don't care about the gender of the DC character.
Currently, I guess I'm leaning toward dropping Aurora, because she seems like she would probably have the least chance of taking out an uber. But she could probably speed-blitz almost any regular she has to fight.
Tropico
12-20-2004, 02:10 PM
I'd cut Aurora. Although she has speed she can be taken out with one good shot.
Cannonball I'd keep in her stead so you still have a flier who's invulnerable and capable of hitting harder than her.
Johnny Blaze
12-20-2004, 02:24 PM
Out of those, I'd cut Aurora too.
As for DC Regulars...
Raven (DR) (F)
Beast Boy (DR)
Nightwing (DR)
Magenta (DR) (F)
Nemesis (Soseh Mykros) (DR) (F)
Prometheus (DR)
Fatality (DR) (F)
Weather Wizard (DR)
The Shade (DR)
Scarecrow/Scarebeast (DR)
Apparition (DR) (F)
Spark (DR) (F)
Mirror Master (Evan McCulloch) (DR)
Out of those, I'd probably go with Mirror Master or Prometheus.
The Leaguer
12-20-2004, 02:26 PM
Would Scarebeast be considered a Regular? He stood up to quite a bit of punishment from Batman.
Raven and Beast Boy are great characters, as is Prometheus if you use him right.
TheCorpulent1
12-20-2004, 02:27 PM
Bah, Prometheus wishes he were Taskmaster. :p
The Leaguer
12-20-2004, 02:30 PM
Maybe as far as fighting goes. Prometheus is far, far more versatile than Taskmaster.
Johnny Blaze
12-20-2004, 02:33 PM
Would Scarebeast be considered a Regular? He stood up to quite a bit of punishment from Batman.
Raven and Beast Boy are great characters, as is Prometheus if you use him right.
Yeah, but I don't see him being any more powerful than say, Colossus or Animal Man, both of whom are Regs.
The Leaguer
12-20-2004, 02:34 PM
True. His scare-gas-stuff is pretty awesome, too. Batman prepared for it and he still couldn't block it.
The Leaguer
12-20-2004, 02:34 PM
Wait, Colossus is a regular? I thought he was Middlewight.
Johnny Blaze
12-20-2004, 02:38 PM
He was, but after thinking on it some more I bumped him back down to regular. All he's got going for him is strength really. And his armor is tough, but he can still be damaged without much of a problem.
The Leaguer
12-20-2004, 02:45 PM
Ah, okay. I avoid the X-Men like the plague, so I wasn't too sure.
XFanTim
12-20-2004, 03:01 PM
OK, I dropped Aurora and got Prometheus. But I still don't know that much about him. Anyone wanna give me some more info on him (or a link to it)? Or even better would be if anyone has some scans you could send me -- particularly his fights with the JLA.
TheCorpulent1
12-20-2004, 03:14 PM
Question. Dormammu: too uber?
The Leaguer
12-20-2004, 03:15 PM
There have been so many rulings on him I lost count. Hell, he was probably rated a regular and a female at one point.
TheCorpulent1
12-20-2004, 03:26 PM
I don't know, I can't figure out where he'd be in relation to Odin or Loki. Some magic-user whom I know enough about to tell.
I don't know, I can't figure out where he'd be in relation to Odin or Loki. Some magic-user whom I know enough about to tell.
Dormammu is easily at Dr. Strange's level if that helps any.
The Leaguer
12-20-2004, 03:29 PM
Last I remember, he was rated Uber. I could be wrong, though.
Dormammu bio
http://www.drstrange.nl/drstrange/sanctum/book/dormammu.htm
We still have a ways to go before the season starts, but...eh, why not.
The Blazing Horde
Thanos
Amazo
Batman (1 Million)
Jaine Cutter
The Persauder
Want to give us some specifics on Batman One Million? I mean, I know he's a crazy martial artist, even has some kind of telepathy fighting.
The Leaguer
12-20-2004, 03:49 PM
OK, I dropped Aurora and got Prometheus. But I still don't know that much about him. Anyone wanna give me some more info on him (or a link to it)? Or even better would be if anyone has some scans you could send me -- particularly his fights with the JLA.
I PM'ed you about that.
Dormannu's kind of, I don't know, meh. Way back when, in some of Dr. Strange's earliest adventures, Dormannu was overwhelming him and would of beaten him, Strange won via pretty much securing Dormannu's realm and what not though, a compromise of sorts. Strange has become much more powerful since then though, and beaten Dormannu one on one. In a What If, Doom became Sorceror Supreme and beat Dormannu, one on one, he had to sacrifice his life to do so though. Then he had his mind put into Dr. Strange's body... :D
Dormannu can shunt you to his realm though, where The Mindless Ones hang out, thousands and thousands of Hulk like creatures who live to destroy and have energy projection powers.
TheCorpulent1
12-20-2004, 03:52 PM
I read somewhere that he claims to be as powerful as Odin a lot. I guess that'd make him well within the range of sorcerers for the DTL. What about everyone's educated opinion? Who's the badder badass, Dormammu or Loki? I've got the Loki from "The Reigning," after he'd defeated Dr. Strange and, I assume, learned to use all of Strange's spells and talismans.
Flat out power? Dormannu, definitely. Although Loki has helped against the likes of Surtur. Loki is more about cunning and finesse, Dormannu rules dimensions and what not.
The Leaguer
12-20-2004, 03:53 PM
I hate magic. :(
TheCorpulent1
12-20-2004, 03:54 PM
How the hell does Strange beat Dormammu consistently, then? :confused:
He doesen't Strange beat him one on one, no powers once. I've said it before, I'll say it again... Strange has beaten Shuma Gorath, a being bonded to an entire reality, Zom, a being The Living Tribunal took notice of and imprisoned, and he's the one who stopped The Mindless Hulk.
TheCorpulent1
12-20-2004, 03:59 PM
Hmmm... and my Loki would have all of his spells. :)
Meh, I don't think all of the detities are going to endorse Strange. Agamotto and The Faltine.
I asked you in the other thread, what's the difference beyond what you've said with him?
TheCorpulent1
12-20-2004, 04:03 PM
I'm guessing you mean the deities won't endorse Loki, right? If I recall correctly, Loki used the Eye of Agamotto in "The Reigning." Plus, doesn't Dormammu invoke deities to grant him power? Why wouldn't they do it for Loki? Can't be based on his evilness.
Dormannu uses internal power and the power his dimension generates.
And Dormannu used to be one of the people that Strange called upon for power, until he found out who he was.
TheCorpulent1
12-20-2004, 04:10 PM
Dormannu uses internal power and the power his dimension generates.
I read on a website that different deities control different aspects of magic. Faltines control flame but Cyttorrak controls the red energy that makes up his bands, etc. Wouldn't Dormammu still have to invoke other deities to do what he wants with their stuff?
I'd imagine. I doubt they'd fight Dormannu either, he's in there little group, equal footing. Cytorrak woulden't care anyway, he's an attention whore.
Man, so many awesome teams and characters in this thing. I mean, The Midnighter? Yes! :D
Meggan (Or as Blaze has it, Meggen) is definitely not a regular. She's got the potential to beat people like The Silver Surfer, hell, she could do something against Galactus. Not quite an Excalibur junkie myself, not yet anyhow, so someone else might have to give specifics.
JewishHobbit
12-20-2004, 05:30 PM
MAN! give the draft and these threads explode. I haven't had a chance to get on since I went to bed last night and suddenly I had to get caught up on a good 5 or 6 pages!
Meggan is one character I could never figure out, so another X-Junkie may want to explain her better,.. maybe Tim. Oh, and speaking of Tim... don't get planning yet, my team is gonna get quite the overhall soon.
JewishHobbit
12-20-2004, 05:57 PM
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The Leaguer
12-20-2004, 06:37 PM
See what you've done, JH? You comment on the commotion on the boards, and you kill them. Thanks a lot! :p
JewishHobbit
12-20-2004, 06:40 PM
Hmm oops,.. so you wanna trade somebody or something
Johnny Blaze
12-20-2004, 06:44 PM
Want to give us some specifics on Batman One Million? I mean, I know he's a crazy martial artist, even has some kind of telepathy fighting.
Soon as I find a good bio on him I'll post it.
If not, I'll put together a paragraph or two about him and post it later on.
As for Dormammu, I'd say he'd be Uber (same as Odin).
The Leaguer
12-20-2004, 06:46 PM
One Million bios are tough to find, I tried to find one for Superman a while back to no avail.
TheCorpulent1
12-20-2004, 06:54 PM
Batman 1 Mil's kind of like another Karate Kid. He's mastered martial arts forms from all over the universe, including ones that use psychic attacks in conjunction with physical ones. I haven't seen him fight any Daxamites or anything though, so I don't know how he'd fare against those types.
Johnny Blaze
12-20-2004, 06:55 PM
Tell me about. The few that I have found just say that he's Batman from the 853rd century, he's a member of the Justice Legion A, and that he runs the prison planet of Pluto. :o
TheCorpulent1
12-20-2004, 07:04 PM
Yeah, that's about all the One Million event shows too. He's got some tech too, but I haven't got my comics on hand to check that. He does run an entire planet full of the most dangerous criminals in the universe, however, so I imagine he'd be able to take a Daxamite or two. These are the Justice Legion A's villains as well as his own; they all go to Pluto.
Sounds pretty badass. Midnight and then some from the sounds of it. Not Bruce, is he? Like, Bruce doing The Dr. Doom mind swap thing for centuries. :D
The Leaguer
12-20-2004, 07:08 PM
And he isn't as much of an ass as regular Batman is. He is much more sociable.
Johnny Blaze
12-20-2004, 07:09 PM
Yeah, most of the bios just say that he's got highle advanced version of Batman's weapons and such (like gas pellets, batarangs, etc).
Course I guess that goes without saying since he lives over 600 years in the future. :o
600 years? Lot more then that. :D
Sounds pretty damned cool though, in his, well, limited showings, what was he like, personality wise? And who did he fight?
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