Dream Team League (Discussion)

[JewishHobbit]

Okay, I just reread everything with Cerebro and here's all the feats he does. It's very diverse and random but I typed it as I read it. Ask any questions as you would like:

1) He can sense other X-Men and prosumably any mutant as that was Cerebro's primary function to begin with.

2) He can analyze, learn, and adapt of powers and situations by touching them, encountering them, or simply witnessing them. Example: The X-Men were trapped in this mirror wall where all reality was off. They learned that in order to pass it they had to feel their emotions and ignore any sense of reason. A Cerebro unit witnesses this from a distance and was then able to pass the mirror wall untouched with their emotion.

3) He can regrow any torn limb by just expanding the nanotech he's made of. It takes maybe 15 to 30 seconds to rebuild suffiscient damage. It was nearly instant to repair a severed arm.

4) Cerebro Prime is always in contact with any other Cerebro units it creates and the other Cerebrites share the same abilites as the original.

5) He can catologue humans and mutants by zapping them with a beam or fetching sperm-like nanites. They then disappear and are encased in a tube where he is based at. It is similar to Matrix. Victoms he catologued were Blob, Toad, Mimic, Post, Wolverine, Nightcrawler, Colossus, Rogue, Gambit, Storm, Xavier, Shadowcat, and Marrow. He was shown doing this to 4 or 5 people at a time though it's implied that he could do as many as necessary.

6) He can take the form of a liquid metal type substance and move around like that. In this form it can separate and move through cracks in the ground and other such situation. It was like that that one of his units engulfed Colossus and took control of him. It poored from the ceiling and saturated him and only a few seconds later it had complete control, Colossus never had the chance to resist and showed no signs of resisting later. He did comment, "Boshe Moi! It's So Hot! So -- URRK" and then he was taken. So however long it takes to say that is the amount of time it took to over take him. When he was done with him he released him and took form again. Colossus was unconscious when released.

7) He can turn off any of the X-Men's powers or use them against them. Example: It turned off Colossus's metal powers while holding him in the air with one arm. Then later when Gambit went to charge a card he made it explode in his hand.

8) He seems to be able to send nonites airborne to form new objects. Example: While facing storm he "Diverted 15 percent manotech. to counter..." and then suddenly Storm was encased in a small box causing havoc with her clastifobia. She was in the air hitting him with lightning as he was thinking and never touched her. This also is another example of how he has resistance to the known powers of those he has in his files, or at the very least those X-Men Xavier would know best.

9) He's apparently a master strategist with his Computer mind as he was able to actually set a set time in which he would defeat all the X-men and obtain a girl he was trying to capture. He was acturate in this exicution.

10) He can blast energy beams from himself, mostly from his hands and mouth. One shot cut Storm's arm, a second knocked her out cold.

11) He can fly and has no problem busting through walls and floors

12) He can scan it's location using Longitude and Latitude at any given time to know where it is

13) It can travel underwater (from the coast to Alkatraz) unharmed, thus meaning I'm sure it doesn't need to breath.

14) He has access to the Xavier Protocols, which is detailed explanations of how to kill everyone that is X-Related, specifically the X-Men themselves. Cerebro states that he is relunctant to use this but will if his dream is threatened.

15) It can create new "lifeforms" using the Nanites that are mixures of people it has on file. It can construct their looks, personalities, "histories" as they believe them to be, powers, etc. These creatures have personalities of their own and are completely unique of themselves. They can think their own thoughts and make their own decisions. They can show pride, doubt, fear, honor, etc. Cerebro can reabsorb them as well. He's been shown making 6 of these at one time.

16) As mentioned he can also make clones of himself dubbed Cerebrites. Each Cerebrite is just like Cerebro Prime in powers and knowledge. The Looks may very a bit but that's about it. These can also be reabsorbed. He's been shown making 4 or 5 of these at a time.

And that's everything I could find.

[X]

5) He can catologue humans and mutants by zapping them with a beam or fetching sperm-like nanites. They then disappear and are encased in a tube where he is based at. It is similar to Matrix. Victoms he catologued were Blob, Toad, Mimic, Post, Wolverine, Nightcrawler, Colossus, Rogue, Gambit, Storm, Xavier, Shadowcat, and Marrow. He was shown doing this to 4 or 5 people at a time though it's implied that he could do as many as necessary.

Ah, very nice. Thanks for the detailed descreption.

From that paragraph though, I'm not sure of this or not... Can he copy powers? Someone he doesn't have catalouged, could he copy their powers after dousing them in his beam, studying their genitic make up and what not? Sounds like he's a lot like the Composite Man. :up:

[X]

Oh, an interesting tidbit about Iron Man... He's got PSI screens up. So, it's pretty much impossible to mind control him. And I'm talking about standing up to Phoenix level assaults meant to kill him. :up:

[JewishHobbit]

Ah, very nice. Thanks for the detailed descreption.

From that paragraph though, I'm not sure of this or not... Can he copy powers? Someone he doesn't have catalouged, could he copy their powers after dousing them in his beam, studying their genitic make up and what not? Sounds like he's a lot like the Composite Man. :up:

To tell you the truth I'm not sure about that. He never really used anyone elses abilities in the comics but if he's able to create other programs with the abilities, educate them on how to use them to the highest order, etc... wouldn't that provoke the idea that he himself knows how to use them? I mean,... the copies are just branches of himself. So even though I didn't see him use them I'd say yeah. Actually you know what, when he was posing as Xavier he did use telepathy so I would say that was a yes. But then in the end he wanted to infect every mind with nanites to catologue the whole world but he needed Xavier's mind to do so and couldn't do it himself. So maybe he can unless it's something of extreme measures, then he needs to actually take them over (like he did Colossus) in order to do so. I'm thinking that's the best description right there.

[X]

Confusing. :down: :(

[TheCorpulent1]

Cerebro's limited to mutant powers though, right?

[X]

Yar.

[JewishHobbit]

Confusing. :down: :(

Okay, basically I think he can. He has the info and the knowledge to use the powers of those he's catalogued. His Cerebrites have been shown using them and they are just branches of himself, so yeah he can.

He can learn from someone by seeing them use their powers or by being hit by them, so once that happens he should be able to use them that way as well. He used Xavier's powers when he was posing in the first arc he was in. In the second he was more behind the scenes watching his Cerebrites do the deeds until the end. He then used Xavier to use the full power of Xavier's mind to scan the world. So I'm thinking he can use people's powers to the extent of what they have, but if it's beyond what they would normally do he needs to take them over and use them to actually do it.

Cerebro's limited to mutant powers though, right?

He's not limited to Mutants. Two of those he was battling was Post and Mimic, neither are mutant, and it was going the same with them as with the rest.

[Johnny Blaze]

Ok, back to putting together the final team that we need...

For DC, some characters I'd suggest would be...

The Cyborg (Hank Henshaw) (DU) (http://classicmarvel.com/cast/cyborg_super.htm)

Tempest (DM) (http://classicmarvel.com/cast/tempest.htm)

Extant (DU) (http://titanstower.com/source/whoswho/hawk.html#ext)

Sand (DM) (http://www.rapsheet.co.uk/GoldenHeroes/Html/Bizzaro2.asp?UniqueId=133)

Nemesis II (DR) (F) (http://spider-bob.com/heroes/dc/NemesisII.htm)

Fatality (DR) (F) (http://spider-bob.com/villains/dc/Fatality.htm)

The Curse (DU) (http://spider-bob.com/gods_monsters/dc/Curse.htm)

Sister Superior (Vera Lynn Black) (DM) (F) (http://spider-bob.com/heroes/dc/SisterSuperior.htm)

Scorn (DM) (http://www.angelfire.com/ca2/HERORPG/Ceritak.html)

[X]

Somebody really, really needs to use The Cyborg. I mean, really, he's every bit as good as Superman, overall more durable and I woulden't be suprised if he was stronger... He can controll tech (Cerbero Prime? The Fury? Come on people!) and he's got so many other things going for him. He was hanging with the SS, and this was out of the blue. Give him time to prepare, he's a friggin monster.

[JewishHobbit]

So is this last team all that we're waiting for for the season to start? Cause I can't think of anything else that we would be waiting for. Christmas is over, everyone has their drafts done, there's been plenty of time for pick ups and such. If this is it then I say pull together a committee or something and get the team laid out. I don't know enough about DC to help there but I gave my marvel ideas ealier. Pull X and Corp and whoever and get this taken care of so we can get started on this thing. I wanna kick Tim's butt!!!!!!!!!!! :)


Red Skull - (MR) Leader of the team.
Loki - (MU) Willing to be under Red Skull while pulling his strings. The right hand man without Skull realizing he's really in charge.
Fenris - (MU) I'm thinking this guy had something to do with killing Odin but I'm not sure. Anyway he's worked with Loki before and would be Loki's right hand man and is under Skull on Loki's behalf.
Dark Beast - (MR) Age of Apocalypse version of Beast. Very dark and "evil." He is willing to kill on a whim and usually places himself under others that he feels are the Powers to Be for that time. He is very intelligent.
Havoc (AoA) - (MR)From Age of Apocalypse. He is dark like Dark Beast and the two had worked together in the AoA (Beast under Havoc). They would work well together and after some discussion I think Havoc would respect Dark Beast's suggestion of working under Skull and Loki (though he would but heads with Skull at times).

[TheCorpulent1]

Ok, back to putting together the final team that we need...

For DC, some characters I'd suggest would be...

The Cyborg (Hank Henshaw) (DU) (http://classicmarvel.com/cast/cyborg_super.htm)

Tempest (DM) (http://classicmarvel.com/cast/tempest.htm)

Extant (DU) (http://titanstower.com/source/whoswho/hawk.html#ext)

Sand (DM) (http://www.rapsheet.co.uk/GoldenHeroes/Html/Bizzaro2.asp?UniqueId=133)

Nemesis II (DR) (F) (http://spider-bob.com/heroes/dc/NemesisII.htm)

Fatality (DR) (F) (http://spider-bob.com/villains/dc/Fatality.htm)

The Curse (DU) (http://spider-bob.com/gods_monsters/dc/Curse.htm)

Sister Superior (Vera Lynn Black) (DM) (F) (http://spider-bob.com/heroes/dc/SisterSuperior.htm)

Scorn (DM) (http://www.angelfire.com/ca2/HERORPG/Ceritak.html)
Good call with the Curse. I've still gotta get that Dr. Fate mini, but I read synopses and he seems badass.

Sand's already taken.

[Johnny Blaze]

Ok, how's this for the lineup...

Loki (MU)
The General (DU)
Dark Beast (MR)
Tempest (DM)
Raven (DR) (F)
Red Tornado (DU)
Shatterstar (MR)
Hyperion (MU)
Nocturne (MR) (F)
Mirror Master (Evan McCulloch) (DR)

[The Leaguer]

That works, let's run with it.

[Johnny Blaze]

Good call with the Curse. I've still gotta get that Dr. Fate mini, but I read synopses and he seems badass.

Sand's already taken.
Yeah, I saw the Sand thing a few minutes after I posted it. :o

And that mini was kick ass. Curse whooped Fate's ass first time round, but Hector regrouped, came back and beat him. :up:

[TheCorpulent1]

Yeah, just christen them the Smorgasboard. :D

[JewishHobbit]

I like the idea of Red Skull in there instead of Shatterstar myself, I think he and Loki would be interesting on a team.... but other than that I think it's a dang good team. But I'm good with Shatterstar if everyone else is. I like the dynamics of Dark Beast with Red Skull too as Skull's Hitler-like and D.Beast worked with Apocalypse in AoA who rulled the world. I think they would have better dynamics than Shatterstar and Dark Beast or whatever.

I'm rambling now..... The team is good. I say go for it! And as I asked earlier what else are we waiting for. Because if we get this team up and going is there a chance we can get week 1 going Thursday?

[Johnny Blaze]

Well, that's two that are cool with that lineup. Anyone against it?

[Johnny Blaze]

I like the idea of Red Skull in there instead of Shatterstar myself, I think he and Loki would be interesting on a team.... but other than that I think it's a dang good team. But I'm good with Shatterstar if everyone else is. I like the dynamics of Dark Beast with Red Skull too as Skull's Hitler-like and D.Beast worked with Apocalypse in AoA who rulled the world. I think they would have better dynamics than Shatterstar and Dark Beast or whatever.

I'm rambling now..... The team is good. I say go for it! And as I asked earlier what else are we waiting for. Because if we get this team up and going is there a chance we can get week 1 going Thursday?
Other than finding a final owner, we still need starting lineups from:
AnnoyingSilence
Elijya
LadyVader
yenaled

[JewishHobbit]

Other than finding a final owner, we still need starting lineups from:
AnnoyingSilence
Elijya
LadyVader
yenaled

Didn't we say something along the lines of starting the season with that team and just rotating the characters until someone claimed it so we can get started? I thought we had but I could be wrong.

And as for the others can we give them a deadline, say by Wednesday night at Midnight :p

[The Leaguer]

I thought LadyVader gave one?

[JewishHobbit]

I can probably get AS to post one tonight, cause I can physically kick his butt if he puts it off :D

[Johnny Blaze]

It was talked about, but I'm not doing that; starting the season with an ownerless team is just giving their opponent a garanteed win. Hopefully, with a team already in place, it won't be hard to find someone to replace them.

And Hobbit, have you asked any of those posters who were in that game with you over in the Spidey Forum about joining?

[X]

Ok, how's this for the lineup...

Loki (MU)
The General (DU)
Dark Beast (MR)
Tempest (DM)
Raven (DR) (F)
Red Tornado (DU)
Shatterstar (MR)
Hyperion (MU)
Nocturne (MR) (F)
Mirror Master (Evan McCulloch) (DR)

I really think Raven should probably be a Middleweight...

[JewishHobbit]

And Hobbit, have you asked any of those posters who were in that game with you over in the Spidey Forum about joining?

Yeah, that's where we got Doc Ock from. Andrew almost joined but backed out (I think I'll PM him again though for a second offer), and I asked Popo but he wasn't interested. Those were the only ones I asked. I don't know any of the others though. Ock could probably pull more than I would over there.

[Johnny Blaze]

How so?


And, nope, LadyVader hasn't given a starting lineup yet Leaguer.

[X]

Well, I can't really cite any specifics, but I know she's capable of some pretty crazy stuff. Her father is a Spectre level being, Multiversal threat by the name of Trigon...

[The Leaguer]

How so?


And, nope, LadyVader hasn't given a starting lineup yet Leaguer.

Ah, I thought I remember her giving one, and asking for comments.

[JewishHobbit]

Well I just PM'd Andrew again so hopefully I'll hear back from him. So is the team you stated going to be the team for that slot? Officially? (in case he asks)

[TheCorpulent1]

Well, I can't really cite any specifics, but I know she's capable of some pretty crazy stuff. Her father is a Spectre level being, Multiversal threat by the name of Trigon...
Isn't she just an empath with the soul self thing?

[Johnny Blaze]

Her Soul Self though is pretty badass and all, but I don't think she's powerful enough to warrant a bump up to Middleweight. Course I'm just going by her recent Teen Titans stuff and what I've read from bios.

If anyone has anything to add please do. :up:

[Johnny Blaze]

Well I just PM'd Andrew again so hopefully I'll hear back from him. So is the team you stated going to be the team for that slot? Officially? (in case he asks)
Yes, but of course he can switch out whoever he wants if he so chooses. :up:

[TheCorpulent1]

I think she was more powerful when she was in that white costume.

[Johnny Blaze]

Yeah, I think that was when she gave into to her dark half or what not.

[JewishHobbit]

Yes, but of course he can switch out whoever he wants if he so chooses. :up:

I mentioned all that to him,.. I just didn't know if I should give him that line up or not. I'll Pm that to him as well. Thanks.

[Johnny Blaze]

Cool. Keep me posted. :up:

[JewishHobbit]

No prob. Hey, what are these Groups on this sight? I keep seeing "so and so is not a part of any groups" and such. Exactly what are those and whats the point of being in them? I was just wandering because (keep in mind I know nothing about them) but what about a DTL group? Could we start our own, and what's the point of having one?

[Johnny Blaze]

I have no clue as to what you are talking about. What groups? :confused:

[JewishHobbit]

Heh, that was my question :)

For example, if I'm remembering correctly if you go to someone's Profile I think it usually says "this person isn't a part of any groups" or "This person is a part of the Book Group" or something like that.


Eh, Ignore me I don't know what I'm talking about. I'm tired and need to go to bed.

[The Leaguer]

It's on the profile screen, in the Public Groups box at the bottom right.

[Johnny Blaze]

Yeah, I just saw it. No clue what groups it's refering to though. :o

[The Leaguer]

It'd be pretty cool if we could make a DTL group, though.

[TheCorpulent1]

Ask about it on the Technical Support board.

[wiegeabo]

Found a page about groups. They weren't initially made for users to create groups or clubs. But someone metioned it to Malice, and he created a couple of test groups to see how it goes. The thread is here (http://www.superherohype.com/forums/showthread.php?t=143093&page=2&pp=25&highlight=groups).

If the two test groups have been going well, maybe JB could convince Malice to create a DTL group.

[The Leaguer]

I think it would be pretty cool to have the DTL be an official aspect of SHH.

[Johnny Blaze]

That would be pretty cool. :D

[Elijya]

ask malice

[Johnny Blaze]

I just might. :up:


Oh, and Elijya. You need to add another Regular character to your roster (either Marvel or DC).
And when you do add said character, remember to do it in the Transaction thread and not this one. :up:

[Roughneck]

Uh. When is the DTL gonna start?

[JewishHobbit]

Very soon. We' just have to fill this last stinkin spot that no one wants and that's it. We've already pre-made the team so that hopefully someone will pick it up thinking that there isn't any confusing steps required first. If you know anyone who would want in start asking. I'm gung ho!

[Elijya]

has anyone asked Hero?

[JewishHobbit]

He's one of them I just PM'd actually. If you know him better feel free to ask yourself though. I just know him from seeing him around. I don't think I've ever actually gotten into a good conversation with him.

[X]

has anyone asked Hero?

I can see him being interested. :up:

If he was on here more. :down: :(

[Roughneck]

What about Drakon? Is he in this?

[JewishHobbit]

I've never asked Drakon... go for it.











and hey,.. your bananna got festive :)

[Roughneck]

Nah, he's just a pimp again.

[Johnny Blaze]

Yeah, you all ask whoever you think would be interested. If they're interested just point 'em to this thread and everyone can pitch in and give them a rundown of how everything works. :up:

[JewishHobbit]

Just so you guys know here's the people that I've spoken to some and seen around and such that I decided to pm:

Bratgirl
Sauron
Gambit8370
Ben Urich
PhoenixFACTOR
Symbiotica
Harlekin
CaptainStacey
strike-hard

[Johnny Blaze]

I thought you said you PMed Hero too Hobbit? :D

[X]

Just so you guys know here's the people that I've spoken to some and seen around and such that I decided to pm:

Bratgirl
Sauron
Gambit8370
Ben Urich
PhoenixFACTOR
Symbiotica
Harlekin
CaptainStacey
strike-hard

Very nice. Getting Stacy or Gambit in would be great. :up: :up:

[The Leaguer]

Thanks for the invite.

I want in! :)

Awesome! We're full!

[X]

Thanks for the invite.

I want in! :)

It's ****ing awesome dude. And, uh, from what I've seen of you in community you're pretty damned funny. So you're accepted!

[X]

What in the **** just happened? :confused:

[strike-hard]

Thanks for the invite.

I want in! :)

[Roughneck]

I sent one out to Drakon.

[Johnny Blaze]

Holy ****! The time warp is happening in this thread now!!! :eek: :eek: :eek:

[X]

Something cool happens, finally, something unique... And it's this crap! Fah, ol' Russell charm working overtime. :up: :(

[Johnny Blaze]

Thanks for the invite.

I want in! :)
So, tell us how much you've been told about the DTL and we'll go from there.

[JewishHobbit]

Okay,.. cool! Good to have you strike. But now I'm talking to Gambit on PM and he sounds interested. Dang I'd like to have both of them. Is there anyone else who's not really partiscipating in case he wants in?

[strike-hard]

Okay,.. cool! Good to have you strike. But now I'm talking to Gambit on PM and he sounds interested. Dang I'd like to have both of them. Is there anyone else who's not really partiscipating in case he wants in?
That's cool, let gambit have the spot, as I don't know if i'll be able to participate as much as I would like.

[Johnny Blaze]

Not really, no. But, as you know, spots are sure to open up down the road, so just tell him to keep up-to-date on DTL happenings. :up:

[JewishHobbit]

Well I'm off to bed and Gambit seems to have gotten off-line as well. If you know of anyone who isn't partiscipated JB feel free to PM him. He hadn't given me a decissive answer but he was asking a lot of questions about it and I'd like to get him in here. It'd be fun to see him and X argue over a match :) Twood put his and Guyver's arguements to shame!

[Johnny Blaze]

That's cool, let gambit have the spot, as I don't know if i'll be able to participate as much as I would like.
Well, if you ever want to join later on, as I said in the post above, a few spots should open later on so just keep checking. :up:

[JewishHobbit]

Not really, no. But, as you know, spots are sure to open up down the road, so just tell him to keep up-to-date on DTL happenings. :up:

Yeah. I'll go ahead and PM him and tell him to keep an eye out.

So strike... get your team ready as you like and these guys here can help you out on that. The sooner you're ready the sooner we can start.

And AS and Yen, that goes for you to and your starting line up.

(sorry to sound pushy,... just eager :) We are so close!!)

[Johnny Blaze]

Well I'm off to bed and Gambit seems to have gotten off-line as well. If you know of anyone who isn't partiscipated JB feel free to PM him. He hadn't given me a decissive answer but he was asking a lot of questions about it and I'd like to get him in here. It'd be fun to see him and X argue over a match :) Twood put his and Guyver's arguements to shame!
If he's got any questions you can always just tell him to come to this thread and ask them. :up:

[JewishHobbit]

OH hey, didn't mean to run you off strike,.. you're awsome. Feel free to stay. I don't even know if Gambit is going to want in or not,.. he just sounded interested.

Well I guess it's still in the air unless strike definately takes it back or Gambit or another claims the team. And JB I provided a link to ths thread to everyone I Pm'd. I tried to make it as easy as possible.

[yenaled]

Can anyone give me a rating on Director Bones and Magnus Veridium. Magnus Veridium was in the metal men btw. Both DC.

Also, me and a friend run a faily active IRC server: http://irc.phrenzy.org. I don't know if any of you are familiar with mIRC or use it, but I thought if you guys wanted I could set-up a DTL room. Just for general chat really not to be used to change the way this game is played. Just a thought.

[mikeyh89]

oh cool! so are we good to go? if not, maybe OnedisturbedSOB would like to do it......i really dont know him I've just seen him around :up:

Hey the thumbs up got upgraded to the first row of smilies, lol!

[Johnny Blaze]

No, it doesn't look like we're good to go. It looks like strike-hard has run off. :(


yenaled: So, it's basically like chat room that you're talking about (I'm not familiar with IRC servers)?

And I'll need some links to those characters. :up:

[Gambit8370]

Hey guys/gals(?)

I'm gonna have to pass and let someone else play.

Thanks for the invite though.

It sounds like fun, but it also sounds a bit time consuming.

Between work, family, home improvement projects, and b***hing about comics of course, I'm pretty booked up.

I wouldn't want to disappoint you guys by signing on to do something that I couldn't put my full attentions and efforts into.

It sounds cool though.

Oh yeah, and the other thing that drove me to decide not to play was not being able to pick my own team. I'm just sayin'.

[Johnny Blaze]

You can pick your own team. You can switch out any of those characters on that final team that you want and replace them with whoever, just as long as they aren't too Uber and such. :up:

But, if you don't have the time, you don't have the time. To bad, because I think your arguement skills would've really shined here. :D
If your schedule ever allows it you can probably jump in later on down the road since people usually drop out durring the season. So just keep watching. :up:

[XFanTim]

Oh yeah, and the other thing that drove me to decide not to play was not being able to pick my own team. I'm just sayin'.
Gah! You could pick your team if you wanted to -- the pre-made team was just so that people wouldn't be scared off by the time required in coming up with a team.

[XFanTim]

Or, what JB said. :)

[Gambit8370]

Thanks again.

I'll be sure to at least pop in now and then to see the fun I'm missing out on.

[Johnny Blaze]

Cool. And when you do pop in remember to vote Blazing Horde. :D :up:

[Harlekin]

I followed this topic for the last few pages after JewishHobbit PM'ed, and apperantly (seeing Blaze's PM) there is still a spot open (I could've sworn somebody had taken it). So if you guys want me, sure I'll be in. Just show me what the teams are, what team I get, and run me through the game a bit, because I have no idea how to play this.

[LadyVader]

hey harlekin... it would be excelent to have you so we can get this show on the road/ :D
this is where you'll find the teams, characters, schedules, things like that:
http://www.superherohype.com/forums/showthread.php?t=125148

As for how you play the game I leave the explanations to the veterans. :)

[LadyVader]

here's a basic description I got from The Leaguer :

Yes! Interest! We've been trying to get this off the ground for a while, but people keep dropping out. I'm in college too, but I still play, its not too time consuming at all. Okay, here's the deal:

You have a team of seven people (soon to be 10, but right now, 7) that you choose. Characters are broken down into three classifications: Uber (i.e. Kyle Rayner, Thor), Middleweight (i.e. Aquaman, Colossus) and Regular (i.e. Batman, Captain America) based on power, skill, etc. From that team of seven people, each week you choose 5 to do battle. Each team can have a maximum of two Ubers (one from each universe, Marvel and DC) and one Middleweight (from either universe), and the rest are Regulars (at least one from each universe). Ubers and Middleweights are optional, so you could have a team of regulars if you want. One of the five characters chosen (your starters) must be female.

Each week, you are matched up against another team of five. A battlefield is given (i.e. the Savage Land, Gotham City, Atlantis, a desert, etc). The battle begins. Each battle lasts four days. The first two days are for the two team owners to explain how they believe the fight would go, and why they think their team would win. This part is optional, but is usually the most fun. You can supply a write-up of your side of the fight. Your write-up can be a straight-forward explaination of why your team would win, or it can be like a story (like a fan-fic), or (what most people do) it can be a combination of the two. The two owners (if they choose) use the first two days to debate/discuss.

On day three, voting begins. People (other owners and spectators) vote on who they think wins. These votes can be based on the write-ups and how they personally believe the fight would go. At the end of day four, the votes are tallied and he/she with the most votes is the winner. This lasts for a few months (season 1 lasted three months, but that was with about half the number we will have this season, so this season will probably be longer), with each owner fighting once each week. At the end of the season, those teams with the best records carry on to a championship tournament, with the winner being crowned DTL Champion (I came in second last season out of 18 people, Guyverjay won the whole thing).

If you're interested, I can give you a list of all the teams, the characters taken, and a more indepth explanation of the rules. Let me tell you, its fun as hell. I had a blast, and I can't wait for season 2 to start. Other owners are Tropico, X, Johnny Blaze, Dwarf Lord, LanternLight and many more. PM me back if you're still interested.

[Harlekin]

Thanks LadyVader. Count me in. So, the Smorgasbord, would be my team, correct? Because I'd probably end up changing that up a bit.

[LadyVader]

Oh... yes... do change! Unleash your imagination and free your soul!
:D
The only characters you can't have are those who are too powerfull (Gods, omnipotent beings and such) and obviously the ones that are already taken. But there are ways around, for instance if you want Invisible Woman and she's taken, you can get Ultimate Invisible woman.

[Harlekin]

Uhm, what do all the different acronyms mean though? I'm kind of assembling a team now, and I have no idea about those acronyms.

[LadyVader]

so there are different classes of characters, right?
there are regulars:
Batman, Spiderman, Captain America, Wolverine...
middleweights
Storm, Emma Frost, Jade, Kid Flash (people with power, but not as much as
Ubers
Superman, Thor, Cable, Silver Surfer.

Now, these rankings are kinda tricky. Better to ask if you're not sure
So
MU or DU stands for Marvel Uber or DC Uber
MM, DM Marvel Middleweight or DC MiddleWeight
MR or DR Marvel Regular or DC Regular.
F is for female.
Also specify which version you're using if needed like "Ultimate" or "Exiles"

Information on characters you'll find in the DTL Character Lobby thread which is somewhere on this page further down.

[Harlekin]

Oh like that. Thanks for the info.

[Harlekin]

Man, that took me a while. So you're probably going to rip into me for this list but oh well:
Jade (DU) (F)
Zatanna (DU) (F)
Starman VII (DU) (Jack Knight)
Joseph (MU)
Johnny Quick (DM)
Colossus (MM)
Agent-X (MR)
Arsenal (DR)
Elongated Man (DR)
Nightwing (DR)

[LadyVader]

Jade is a medium... at best. :)

and nobody's rushing you ok?
Take a day or two, ask around...

[Harlekin]

Jade is a medium... at best. :)

and nobody's rushing you ok?
Take a day or two, ask around...
A medium? I figured considering the other GL's are Ubers, and I haven't seen Colossus on the team list, so I figured I could take him. But hey (no rushing), that makes it:
Zatanna (DU) (F)
Starman VII (DU) (Jack Knight)
Joseph (MU)
Jade (DM) (F)
Johnny Quick (DM)
Colossus (MM)
Agent-X (MR)
The Spot (MR)
Arsenal (DR)
Elongated Man (DR)

Yeah, I replaced Nightwing with Spot.

[LadyVader]

Sorry... Colossus wasn't taken. My eyes were playing tricks on me. :)
I suggest you take your time in choosing ur characters

[Harlekin]

Sorry... Colossus wasn't taken. My eyes were playing tricks on me. :)
I suggest you take your time in choosing ur characters
Okay. I'll put it differently. For temporary purposes, this is my team. Just to give you guys an idea. Anything else that I should know or something?

[JewishHobbit]

Hey Harlekin! Cool to see you can join! I think all your rankings and such are correct as far as how many of each type you can have. You can also come up with your own name for the team. I Actually think that if you like that team you're pretty much ready to go. When your team and team name is set the next step for you is to list which 5 of your characters you want to fight with in your first match. (I'm not sure who you're facing, you can find that on the DTL Update thread, where all the teams are listed).

[AnnoyingSilence]

Nah, he's just a pimp again.PIMP OR GIMP?

[AnnoyingSilence]

A medium? I figured considering the other GL's are Ubers, and I haven't seen Colossus on the team list, so I figured I could take him. But hey (no rushing), that makes it:
Zatanna (DU) (F)
Starman VII (DU) (Jack Knight)
Joseph (MU)
Jade (DM) (F)
Johnny Quick (DM)
Colossus (MM)
Agent-X (MR)
The Spot (MR)
Arsenal (DR)
Elongated Man (DR)

Yeah, I replaced Nightwing with Spot.i'd get a better teleporter if i was you... you need a balanced team...

1. dominative power (telekinetic, telepathic, magic, cosmic, etc...)
2. teleporter (you want a teleporter who teleports at whim)
3. masterful leader (you use your characters personalities as well so you'll want a great leader so your story is believable)
4. imaginitive inventor (this guy can give your team a big boost in the small areas)
5. DIVERSITY

[X]

i'd get a better teleporter if i was you... you need a balanced team...

1. dominative power (telekinetic, telepathic, magic, cosmic, etc...)
2. teleporter (you want a teleporter who teleports at whim)
3. masterful leader (you use your characters personalities as well so you'll want a great leader so your story is believable)
4. imaginitive inventor (this guy can give your team a big boost in the small areas)
5. DIVERSITY

:up:

Jade could cover the teleportation thing though.

[AnnoyingSilence]

I don't know jade... the only thing i can thing of is that chick on the outsiders(present day)

[The Leaguer]

So we're finally full, with people who actually want to play rather than just wasting our time. Let's get this show on the road!

[X]

I don't know jade... the only thing i can thing of is that chick on the outsiders(present day)

Well, Jade's a GL. And those rings, can, well, do just about anything.

So we're finally full, with people who actually want to play rather than just wasting our time. Let's get this show on the road!

Hahaha. :up:

[AnnoyingSilence]

harl, if you want a person better or just as good for your other mu then go for magnus(exiles)

[AnnoyingSilence]

ok!

but jades got inexhuastable powers from what i understand

[TheCorpulent1]

Well, Jade's a GL. And those rings, can, well, do just about anything.
Jade's not a GL anymore. She's just got her natural hereditary Starheart power from Alan now. I think she's a little more limited than Alan or the Corps GLs. She can still conjure practically any form, but I doubt she could make armies of samurais or stuff like Kyle used to do.

Also, I think Jade did exhaust her powers once before... I'm not sure though, so I'll check on it.

Edit: Found it. From the Cosmic Teams (http://www.mykey3000.com/cosmicteams/profiles/jade.html) website:
Jade was born with the inherent abilities granted by the magic of the Starheart — from which her father's ring is made. She is able to use its power to project green plasma constructs and force from her hand. The energy also allows her to transform her natural human coloring to green. At one point, she expended all of her Starheart energy and was left powerless… until she discovered that she also possesses some latent plant-controlling ability, inherited from her mother. During this time, Jade was given a true Green Lantern Corps ring by Kyle Rayner. When Raynor achieved the powers of a god, he restored her original powers completely.

Unlike her Green Lantern predecessors, Jade does not need to recharge her power and has no weakeness to yellow. In the past, she has however demonstrated the weakness to wood which was inherent to her father's ring. It is uncertain, with the changes in her powers, whether she has outgrown this weakness.

[AnnoyingSilence]

i'm just pointing out that all the gl's are uber... an thier limited... shes inexhuastable... hows she med?

[AnnoyingSilence]

o... harl... in my signiture theres 2 links...
one goes to the dtl line-up(who teaken right now)
and the other one goes to a thread i set up so you could get a better understanding of who the person is... most sites don't have the same back round coverage as the others so if you just don't know someone totally then this place helps... or if you lookin to fill your line-up

[X]

Jade's not a GL anymore. She's just got her natural hereditary Starheart power from Alan now. I think she's a little more limited than Alan or the Corps GLs. She can still conjure practically any form, but I doubt she could make armies of samurais or stuff like Kyle used to do.

Also, I think Jade did exhaust her powers once before... I'm not sure though, so I'll check on it.

Edit: Found it. From the Cosmic Teams (http://www.mykey3000.com/cosmicteams/profiles/jade.html) website:

Well, I know you're saying that for the benefit of everyone, but, I, uh, knew all of that, except for the part that she's not a GL any longer. :D

[X]

i'm just pointing out that all the gl's are uber... an thier limited... shes inexhuastable... hows she med?

She's not inexhaustible, that's why she's a med. Not to mention she can't contain supernova's, knock Superman silly, contain black holes, all that stuff.

[wiegeabo]

Jade as a GL should be Uber. Since she didn't have a lot of time and experience as GL (but has plenty with her natural powers), she'd might be a low Uber.

Jade with her natural powers might be middlewieght. Se could do a lot of stuff, like GL's, but I don't think she had the power level GL's have.

[Elijya]

wiegeabo, I just want to point out that your name reminds me of weeaboo






































http://cheston.com/pbf/PBF009BCWeeaboo.jpg

[X]

Bwhahhaa, I love those so much. :D :up:

[TheCorpulent1]

Jade as a GL should be Uber. Since she didn't have a lot of time and experience as GL (but has plenty with her natural powers), she'd might be a low Uber.
Considering her natural powers function in basically the exact same way as a GL ring, I think we could consider her just about equal with any of the Corps GLs as an uber. Maybe Hal and Kyle would pull out ahead of her. None of them hold a torch to Alan, though. Alan owns you, your family, and your dog. :p

[X]

Hahahaa. :up: :o

[Tropico]

I thought Jade was ranked Med a long time ago especially after her showing against Shimmer and Mammoth in Outsiders. If she had the ring she would make a low end Uber.And I just remembered that her Power Pulse isn't inexhaustable. On Infinity Inc. they went on vacation for a day and she mentions that the rest might help her get her nergies back up to snuff.

And, Harlekin, I doubt very much that Jack Knight would be an Uber. The Cosmic Staff might be awesome but there are many other ways to beat him. Ted Knight would be much closer to being an Uber. I would categorize any of the Starmen as Med, even Will Payton.

[TheCorpulent1]

Wasn't Will Payton the Starman who was practically Superman-level with almost all the same powers?

[Tropico]

Wasn't Will Payton the Starman who was practically Superman-level with almost all the same powers?

I wouldn't say he was Superman level, probably not even Wonder Woman level. Deadline stuck a knife in him once.

[TheCorpulent1]

Oh, never mind then. But he had an all-black costume with a big star on the chest, right? I remember him because he was the first Starman I saw, which confused me when I learned of the Knights and all this Gravity/Cosmic Rod stuff.

[X]

Jade as a GL should be Uber. Since she didn't have a lot of time and experience as GL (but has plenty with her natural powers), she'd might be a low Uber.

Jade with her natural powers might be middlewieght. Se could do a lot of stuff, like GL's, but I don't think she had the power level GL's have.

Uhh, remember all those 50x50 pictures I sent you a while back? Well, I was looking at the DTL site, and in characters there's the avatar thing... Will you ever actually use any of the ones I gave to you or what?

[primemover]

Oooh, the season is almost here, I am wet with anticipation!

So blaze, when will we know who we face in the first week, the listings are still old, I need to know what characters I need to do research on!

[wiegeabo]

Uhh, remember all those 50x50 pictures I sent you a while back? Well, I was looking at the DTL site, and in characters there's the avatar thing... Will you ever actually use any of the ones I gave to you or what?

That's the plan. I still have all those avatars too.

Hmmm...now that I think about it, it probably wouldn't be too hard to implement them. Gives me an idea for the weekend...:daredevil:

[Harlekin]

Okay then. How about this team:
Molecule Man (MU)
Joseph (MU)
Zatanna (DU) (F)
Shaman (MM)
Bloodstorm (Mutant-X) (MM)
Jericho (DM)
Johnny Quick (DM)
Box (Madison Jeffries) (MR)
Nightcrawler (Mutant-X) (MR)
Nightwing (DR)

[yenaled]

I thought you could only have 2 Middleweights.

[Tropico]

Oh, never mind then. But he had an all-black costume with a big star on the chest, right? I remember him because he was the first Starman I saw, which confused me when I learned of the Knights and all this Gravity/Cosmic Rod stuff.

Yeah, that's the guy.

I thought you could only have 2 Middleweights.

You can downgrade your Ubers to Med or Reg, so he could have 4 Meds + the other 2 allowed Meds.

[Tropico]

Okay then. How about this team:
Molecule Man (MU)
Joseph (MU)
Zatanna (DU) (F)
Shaman (MM)
Bloodstorm (Mutant-X) (MM)
Jericho (DM)
Johnny Quick (DM)
Box (Madison Jeffries) (MR)
Nightcrawler (Mutant-X) (MR)
Nightwing (DR)

You're one Med over and short 1 Reg.

I assume you downgraded an Uber and used it as a Med (Jericho). I used him last season and he was rated Regular, I can't remember if he was bumped up. His disembodied version might rate a Med, but he'll always have to be "piggy-backing" inside someone just to be on the field.

Box (Madison Jeffries) was one of the people I had on my list and I had rated him a Med. He had all of Box's capabilities PLUS the ability to alter/absorb more metals, plastics, synthetics,etc. JB or X could take a look at it and see if your assesment is more on the money than mine.

When you're making a team this is what you should have in mind:
1 MU (downgradable to Med or Reg)
1 DCU (downgradable to Med or Reg)
2 Ubers (either company, downgradable)
2 Med (either company, downgradable to Reg)
1 MR
1 DCR
2 Reg (either company)

Bear in mind you ALWAYS have to have a female for each bout. Characters/slots CAN'T be bumped up, not even in the write ups. I hope that helps a bit. :D

[JewishHobbit]

Do we still have that rule in effect where we can have no more than two versions of one character in the DTL at one time. If so then primeover already has Nightcrawler and AS has Nightcrawler (AoA), so Harlekin wouldn't be able to have Nightcrawler (Mutant X). I remember that was a big rule in season one but I've not seen it mentioned much lately.

[wiegeabo]

I think the two version rule is still in play.

[Harlekin]

I'll be editing the list than. :D Not now, but later today. Just jumped in for a quick look.

[XFanTim]

So can we finally set a start date for the season?

[The Leaguer]

Looks like it, we appear to be full of people who genuinely want to play.

[Harlekin]

I try yet again. See if this one holds up.

Molecule Man (MU)
Zatanna (DU) (F)
Madison Jeffries with Box (MM)->Madison Jeffries (MR)
Johnny Quick (DM)
Jericho (Disembodied) (DM)
Jade (DM) (F)
Beast Boy (DR)
Nightwing (DR)
Nocturne (MR) (F)
Elongated Man (MR)

[Franklin Richards]

Can I have 2 MR if I use a DM in the 5th spot? For example

MU
DU <F>
MR
DM
MR


Just a lineup query.


:thing: :doom: :thing:

[X]

I try yet again. See if this one holds up.

Molecule Man (MU)
Zatanna (DU) (F)
Madison Jeffries with Box (MM)->Madison Jeffries (MR)
Johnny Quick (DM)
Jericho (Disembodied) (DM)
Jade (DM) (F)
Beast Boy (DR)
Nightwing (DR)
Nocturne (MR) (F)
Elongated Man (MR)

Could always use Reece's son... He had control over all molcules, but he isn't too uber, like his father in Secret Wars II. Uhm, thing is, his power was centered around this rod he had. Seperate that rod from him, and he'll die in seconds, wither away to dust. Thing grew a handful of The Man-Thing at him, accidently knocked it out of his hands, killing him. :D

Also, Reece had a son in another reality, he also could control all molecules. He turned the air around The Human Torch and The Wasp's son into something he coulden't breath and his flame also coulden't breath. Was also turning a bunch of Ultron robot things into solid granite.

[Johnny Blaze]

Oooh, the season is almost here, I am wet with anticipation!

So blaze, when will we know who we face in the first week, the listings are still old, I need to know what characters I need to do research on! Yenaled will be taking over LanternLight's spot and Harlekin will get batnkevlar's place. I'll update the schedule momentarily.

And it's good to have you aboard Harlekin. :up:
I'll just need a team name from you and your starting lineup you're good to go.

As for a start date, next Thursday sounds like a plan (not tomorrow). All starting lineups must be in by Wednesday at midnight (EST). If you wait until the last second to turn in your lineup or make a change to it your opponent will get a chance to change their lineup before the matches start (though if they don't do it before the matches start then they're screwed). The matches will begin in the early Thursday afternoon.

Now, I'm having troubles with my computer at the moment, so I won't be able to be on as much as I usually am. Until I get things resolved I'm putting X in charge of deciding the class of any character in question from this moment on until I get things sorted out.
If you'd like X, you can edit one of your posts or what not in the Update thread and handle updating the roster too. :up:
When I get things sorted out though I'll be taking over again. :D

[Harlekin]

Thanks for the advice X, but why not just stick with the original mack-daddy of molecule control instead of his son?

My team name will be the Initiative.

[X]

Thanks for the advice X, but why not just stick with the original mack-daddy of molecule control instead of his son?

My team name will be the Initiative.

Well, The Molecule Man can only affect unorganic stuff, which limits him so Wolverine can almost kill him, ala Secret Wars. :D

And that sounds good, Blaze. :up: Try and do my best.

[Johnny Blaze]

Thanks for the advice X, but why not just stick with the original mack-daddy of molecule control instead of his son?

My team name will be the Initiative.Cool, I'll edit the name into the schedule and standings. :up:

And I faith that you'll do good X. :) :up:

[Harlekin]

Well, The Molecule Man can only affect unorganic stuff, which limits him so Wolverine can almost kill him, ala Secret Wars. :D

And that sounds good, Blaze. :up: Try and do my best.
Oh like that. I figure MM can do enough with just unorganic stuff, if one can effect all molecules, that shouldn't be a problem, nor is Wolverine since Reece lost those psychic blocks of his.

[Harlekin]

Just wanted to note that is The Initiative. Just Initiative sounds a little lamish, but thanks for having me guys.

Wow, this thread got affected by the wonky thing that's been running the boards as well.

[X]

Heh, thanks. :up:

I guess I'll just edit the starting line-up post if anyone makes any team changes, so when you get back to doing your thing, Blaze, you can simply copy and paste, take the changes ones and copy and past them over the previous ones.

[X]

Oh like that. I figure MM can do enough with just unorganic stuff, if one can effect all molecules, that shouldn't be a problem, nor is Wolverine since Reece lost those psychic blocks of his.

The thing is, you don't have The Molecule Man without any mental blocks, he's way too uber, you have the unorganic's only version. His son however, can affect all molecules, but he isn't as powerful as no mental blocks Reece (He fought the ****ing Pre-Retcon Beyonder! He hit The Beyonder so hard, power to destroy thousands of universes!

Wolverine almost killed Reece, because one, he coulden't heal himself after Wolverine gutted him, not to mention he coulden't affect Wolverine directly anyhow. Son woulden't have either one of those problems. Up to you man, just saying.

[Harlekin]

The thing is, you don't have The Molecule Man without any mental blocks, he's way too uber, you have the unorganic's only version. His son however, can affect all molecules, but he isn't as powerful as no mental blocks Reece (He fought the ****ing Pre-Retcon Beyonder! He hit The Beyonder so hard, power to destroy thousands of universes!

Wolverine almost killed Reece, because one, he coulden't heal himself after Wolverine gutted him, not to mention he coulden't affect Wolverine directly anyhow. Son woulden't have either one of those problems. Up to you man, just saying.
Thanks for that bit of info there X. I should've figured it'd be the one with mental blocks. Not to sound cocky, but I like a challenge, so I'll stick with Reece. Thanks though, really.

[X]

No problem. :up:

[Franklin Richards]

Couldn't Owen remove the adamantium from Wolvies bones? Just a thought.
And don't let X downplay Owen too much. He did bring the Avengers and FF to their knees in seperate occasions. That Avenger's team was also guest starring the Silver Surfer so just write Owen well. :)


:thing: :doom: :thing:

[Harlekin]

He's messed around with Surfer's board hasn't he? Destroyed Captain America's shield and recreate it, as well as mess with Thor's hammer. I'm not sure on the Wolverine thing.

[X]

Couldn't Owen remove the adamantium from Wolvies bones? Just a thought.
And don't let X downplay Owen too much. He did bring the Avengers and FF to their knees in seperate occasions. That Avenger's team was also guest starring the Silver Surfer so just write Owen well. :)


:thing: :doom: :thing:

Yeah, he definitely could. As it was just said, he destroyed and recreated The Surfer's Board, Thor's Hammer, Iron Man's Armor, and Cap's Shield. But the fact still remains, he's a normal human. I could have one of my regular, Devil-Slayer, blown the back of his brain out from 4 miles away, hell, if you think a normal bullet is too slow and he might be able to transmute it midflight, I could have him use a railgun, 13% the speed of light. :D

Silver Surfer can recreate his board as well, he's reduced it to it's component atoms before. :up:

[The Leaguer]

As for a start date, next Thursday sounds like a plan (not tomorrow).

F***ing awesome.

[X]

Hahaha, cooly. :)

[The Leaguer]

Until I get things resolved I'm putting X in charge of deciding the class of any character in question from this moment on until I get things sorted out.

Uhh, X... Fernus is a Regular. ;)

[Harlekin]

Yeah, he definitely could. As it was just said, he destroyed and recreated The Surfer's Board, Thor's Hammer, Iron Man's Armor, and Cap's Shield. But the fact still remains, he's a normal human. I could have one of my regular, Devil-Slayer, blown the back of his brain out from 4 miles away, hell, if you think a normal bullet is too slow and he might be able to transmute it midflight, I could have him use a railgun, 13% the speed of light. :D

Silver Surfer can recreate his board as well, he's reduced it to it's component atoms before. :up:
That's where teamwork is going to come in. Assuming the team I'm up against (the Atomics from defenders) stay the same, I've already had a few thoughts in my head about a good strategy. I think'll like that about this game, the need for a bit of teamwork in the team, and making people team-up that don't ussually team up.

Although the way you've just described Devil-Slayer, I wish I could use Mr. Immortal just for that one match (if it ever happens).

[Franklin Richards]

Can I have 2 MR if I use a DM in the 5th spot? For example

MU
DU <F>
MR
DM
MR


Just a lineup query.


:thing: :doom: :thing:


I need an official call on this.


:thing: :doom: :thing:

[X]

Uhh, X... Fernus is a Regular. ;)

Your tricks won't work this time! You haven't payed childcare for months, you fiend. :mad: :(

That's where teamwork is going to come in. Assuming the team I'm up against (the Atomics from defenders) stay the same, I've already had a few thoughts in my head about a good strategy. I think'll like that about this game, the need for a bit of teamwork in the team, and making people team-up that don't ussually team up.

Although the way you've just described Devil-Slayer, I wish I could use Mr. Immortal just for that one match (if it ever happens).

Yeah, I've got you.

Devil-Slayer would spank Mr. Immortal. Shunt him to the negative zone where anti-matter explosions await him. :D

[X]

I need an official call on this.


:thing: :doom: :thing:

Can't say, sorry. I've always stuck with, ya know, the normal line-up. Blaze implamented the whole Middleweight thing, he knows how it works better then I do.

[Harlekin]

Oh, that would suck then. Damnit, foiled again.

Anyway, I was wondering, you can only use a maximum of two ubers and one medium, but couldn't you do something through which you could do one uber, two mediums? Sounds more logical to me, anyway.

[X]

Yes, you can downgrade your characters all you want. Have Two Middlweights or all regulars if you want.

[Harlekin]

Yes, you can downgrade your characters all you want. Have Two Middlweights or all regulars if you want.
Would that mean I have to make an uber, medium level, or just pick one of my mediums in exchange. Reading the stuff LadyVader posted, it is said a max of two ubers and one medium, so I was confused.

[X]

Yes, but if you wanted you could start two Middleweights instead of two ubers. You know, if you had a really big hard on for Namor and Wonder Man or something... :D

[primemover]

I need an official call on this.


:thing: :doom: :thing:

Petunia, that is a no, it was answered a few weeks ago. Look on page 260 of the transaction thread.

[The Leaguer]

Thought you guys might find it cool, in the latest Spider-Man Unlimited, the main character of one of the stories was a part of a fantasy super-hero league. He had Moon Knight on his team and his friend had Captain Britain and Darkhawk. Apparently, they got points based on public appearances of the heroes on their team.

[primemover]

I try yet again. See if this one holds up.

Molecule Man (MU)
Zatanna (DU) (F)
Madison Jeffries with Box (MM)->Madison Jeffries (MR)
Johnny Quick (DM)
Jericho (Disembodied) (DM)
Jade (DM) (F)
Beast Boy (DR)
Nightwing (DR)
Nocturne (MR) (F)
Elongated Man (MR)

EM is a DC character btw

[X]

Thought you guys might find it cool, in the latest Spider-Man Unlimited, the main character of one of the stories was a part of a fantasy super-hero league. He had Moon Knight on his team and his friend had Captain Britain and Darkhawk. Apparently, they got points based on public appearances of the heroes on their team.

Yeah, I saw. Pretty cool. :up:

[Franklin Richards]

Petunia, that is a no, it was answered a few weeks ago. Look on page 260 of the transaction thread.


Awww crap. There goes my Reed / Karnak team up unless I sacrifice a Marvel Uber... and THAT'S not gonna happen. :(


:thing: :doom: :thing:

[primemover]

Or just downgrade your medium spot for one of them, and then use Brainiac 5 as your DC reg(or any other if you had any other DC reg).

[Franklin Richards]

hmmmm... that is true. I would be sacrificing some power, but I would be getting my Reed/Karnak combo. Gotta think on that one.

:thing: :doom: :thing:

[TheCorpulent1]

I don't think you'd be sacrificing much with Brainy. I just read the Legion: Foundations TPB and I noticed his forcefields are pretty damn strong.

[Elijya]

anyone wanna explain to me the difference between an uber, medium and regular telepath? Xavier Phoenix, Cable, Stryfe and X-Man are all classified as Ubers, I think Emma Frost is classified as a medium, and Psylocke is classified as a ....regular? she locked down the shadow king! that's not regular!

[TheCorpulent1]

Yeah, I think Psylocke would be at least a middleweight. She has a lot of other stuff going for her too. Weird, considering the rule of thumb for telepaths seems to be to err upwards.

[X]

I don't think you'd be sacrificing much with Brainy. I just read the Legion: Foundations TPB and I noticed his forcefields are pretty damn strong.

Yeah, Silver Age they could stand up to hits from Pre-Crisis Superboy, Ultra Boy, Mon-El, yadda yadda. Just as powerful now, but just in relation to the current Superman types.

Psylocke would make an awesome, awesome regular. Let's not forget she pretty much stalemated Iron Man in Contest of Champions II, and has completely destroyed Wolverine...

[Elijya]

which is why I'm saying she should be a medium. If you consider Iron Man to be Uber, and she held her own against him, that should be proof enough

[The Leaguer]

Well, just because a Regular could beat an Uber doesn't make the Regular a Medium. I'm not saying you're wrong, I'm just saying in general.

[X]

True, true. But she's definitely got a lot going for her, why I agreed last post that she could be a Middleweight...

[JewishHobbit]

I think she'd be a higher level than Emma myself, if not higher then at least equal to. When there was just Uber and Regular she was definately a Reg. Now with the Medium ranking I'd say she may be on that borderline. I'd say her regular original self is Regular but her with the Crimson Dawn would be Medium (this is what she was when she trapped Shadow King).

[X]

Well, yeah. When she was more innocent and less powerful back during The Captain Britain days, she used to get beaten by Spymaster (Think that was his name) and stuff. Definitely a regular in that incarnation. I remember during Tech Wars though, she was one of the last people left alive. Her, The Hulk, Captain America, couple others. Had half of her face blown off and a couple of hours later she was ready to go again.

[Elijya]

tech wars? was taht a crossover with marvel UK?

[X]

Yuppers.

[TheCorpulent1]

Yeah, Silver Age they could stand up to hits from Pre-Crisis Superboy, Ultra Boy, Mon-El, yadda yadda. Just as powerful now, but just in relation to the current Superman types.
In Foundations, they were standing up to Darkseid, clones of Orion, Firestorm, Big Barda, and a 15-year-old Superman juiced up on concentrated yellow sunlight by Darkseid. Orion-clone smacked him around and stuff, but the forcefields protected him enough that he was in perfect health afterwards. Then he formed it into a ram and knocked Orion-clone off his sled thingamajig.

[Franklin Richards]

Feel the Love for Brainiac-5!!!

:up:


:thing: :doom: :thing:

[X]

In Foundations, they were standing up to Darkseid, clones of Orion, Firestorm, Big Barda, and a 15-year-old Superman juiced up on concentrated yellow sunlight by Darkseid. Orion-clone smacked him around and stuff, but the forcefields protected him enough that he was in perfect health afterwards. Then he formed it into a ram and knocked Orion-clone off his sled thingamajig.

What exactly were they all doing to him, out of curiousity?

[TheCorpulent1]

It wasn't all at once. I mean, he didn't dominate all of them or anything, but it was pretty sweet considering Brainy's just basically a really, really smart guy. Orion-clone was shooting him with his sled's blasters, mostly. The first sled blast knocked Brainy back, but then he was blocking them with little fields pretty easily. Then he extended the shield forward as a battering ram and knocked Orion-clone off his sled. Then he started fighting Orion-clone and Orion-clone knocked him back with one punch long enough to get back on his sled and boom tube away. Then Brainy survived a bomb point-blank that leveled the Time Institute, and extended his shield enough that he saved some of the workers and artifacts from the museum too. Not hugely impressive, but better than I thought Brainy was before I'd read anything with him.

[Elijya]

What exactly were they all doing to him, out of curiousity?


gangbang

[AnnoyingSilence]

That's where teamwork is going to come in. Assuming the team I'm up against (the Atomics from defenders) stay the same, I've already had a few thoughts in my head about a good strategy. I think'll like that about this game, the need for a bit of teamwork in the team, and making people team-up that don't ussually team up.

Although the way you've just described Devil-Slayer, I wish I could use Mr. Immortal just for that one match (if it ever happens).who got this guy to join? i'm liken'm already... its been said before by leaguer, i just wanna say it again...

I'M HAPPY WE GOT PEOPLE WHO ACTUALLY WANT TO BE IN THE DTL!!!

[AnnoyingSilence]

I need an official call on this.


:thing: :doom: :thing:JB, himself told me no... i asked the same question when i tried to team up

stryfe mu
flash du
forge mr
nightcrawler mr
gorilla grodd dm

[AnnoyingSilence]

which is why I'm saying she should be a medium. If you consider Iron Man to be Uber, and she held her own against him, that should be proof enoughits been stated many times that its not on who they beat that makes thier status...

psylock is defenitely regualr, yes tle's are ranked upwards but damn, from what i've seen of'r... she doesn't use her tele too much if at all(especially sense she became ninja)

[AnnoyingSilence]

I'm putting X in charge
http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v318/jusreal/stupid%20stuff/I3010004.jpg

[XFanTim]

which is why I'm saying she should be a medium. If you consider Iron Man to be Uber, and she held her own against him, that should be proof enough

She's also been damn near killed by Sabertooth, who's a regular.

Although as has been said, you can't just go by who's beat who, because every character has had some upsets. I mean, Spidey's beat Juggernaut and Firelord, right? But that doesn't mean he's an uber.

Personally, I think Psylocke and Emma Frost should both be regulars. Good regulars, but regulars. Telepathy is a great power and all, but I don't think every decent telepath is a medium. I mean, Jean Grey has telepathy and telekinesis, and she's still only a medium, right?

Here's the way I see the rankings of telepaths/telekinetics (not a comprehensive list):

Uber:
Xavier
Martian Manhunter (even if you ignored all his other abilities)
Cable
Nate Grey
Stryfe

Medium:
Jean Grey
Rachel Grey (she's no Jean, and Emma's a better telepath, but I think the extra versatility she gets from being a telekinetic as well puts her over the edge)

Regular:
Emma Frost
Psylocke

Emma's diamond skin secondary mutation would probably bump her up to medium, except that she can't use it at the same time as her telepathy.

[Elijya]

no way is jean a medium! she's totally uber!

and thought rachel took summers as her last name?

[The Leaguer]

Throw Fernus up there in Uber. Gotta give my boy his due!

[AnnoyingSilence]

Uber:
Xavier
Martian Manhunter (even if you ignored all his other abilities)
Cable
Nate Grey
Stryfe
Jean Grey
cable
exodus
manchesterblack
Mimic(616)
rachel grey
fernus

Medium:

Regular:
Emma Frost
Psylocke

[The Leaguer]

Saturn Girl is an uber, and what would Purple Man be considered? Does his power count as telepathy?

[AnnoyingSilence]

not an extensive list, just felt like posting it

[The Leaguer]

Well, I figure if we make a list, we may as well include all the telepaths being used.

[AnnoyingSilence]

go ahead...

[Harlekin]

who got this guy to join? i'm liken'm already... its been said before by leaguer, i just wanna say it again...

I'M HAPPY WE GOT PEOPLE WHO ACTUALLY WANT TO BE IN THE DTL!!!
A combination of JewishHobbit and Johnny Blaze, with a little bit of you all sprinkeled in.

[AnnoyingSilence]

A combination of JewishHobbit and Johnny Blaze, with a little bit of you all sprinkeled in.http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v318/jusreal/stupid%20stuff/PumpkinPuke.jpg

[Harlekin]

http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v318/jusreal/stupid%20stuff/PumpkinPuke.jpg
:p



I hate one word posts. So yeah, that was complete and utter bull with a bit of truth in there.

[AnnoyingSilence]

wow, thats interesting... even tho i said nothing... not a word

[Harlekin]

wow, thats interesting... even tho i said nothing... not a word
Talking about myself there. Wanted to just comment with a smiley and a word, but I hate one-word posts, so... y'know.

[AnnoyingSilence]

okay

[TheCorpulent1]

Saturn Girl is an uber, and what would Purple Man be considered? Does his power count as telepathy?
Purple Man's definitely an uber. He can get basically anyone under his absolute control except for really, really strong-willed people like Dr. Doom. Once they're under his control it wouldn't take much to keep them under his control either.

Another villain with basically the same power as the Purple Man is the Skull, who'd be an uber too. Maybe too uber, considering he was mind-controlling like half of Manhattan in Earth X.

[Harlekin]

Purple Man's definitely an uber. He can get basically anyone under his absolute control except for really, really strong-willed people like Dr. Doom. Once they're under his control it wouldn't take much to keep them under his control either.

Another villain with basically the same power as the Purple Man is the Skull, who'd be an uber too. Maybe too uber, considering he was mind-controlling like half of Manhattan in Earth X.
"Now Zebediah Killgrave... who deserves too rule?"

[Tropico]

Re: Psylocke.

Just because wrtiers don't want to use her telepathy powers to their full extent doesn't mean she's a wimp with them. They were just limiting her to her Psychic Knife to go with the ninja motif, but she's more capable than that. People forget that when she's fighting she can read the persons mind to know what they're going to do and react before the person strikes. Only instinctive fighters (like Wolverine) or telepathic proof would take that edge away from her (Sabretooth has been made pretty much psi-proof). She can "teleport" from shadows. I guess she would be a very high end Regular, but I could see her being a a Medium too.

[X]

Saturn Girl is an uber, and what would Purple Man be considered? Does his power count as telepathy?

Normal Purple Man? Regular, definitely. Namor and Captain America can flat out not be affected by him. But, he does have huge potential. Doom used him to take over the entire world in Emperor Doom, then again, Doom flat out stood up to his powers again, point blank range. Middleweight as best I'd imagine, he's still a human, and he has absolutely nothing going for him besides his controlling people schtick.

[XFanTim]

no way is jean a medium! she's totally uber!

and thought rachel took summers as her last name?
Rachel used to be Summers, but she's Rachel Grey a.k.a. Marvel Girl now. It's supposed to be a tribute to her mother or something.

As for Jean, I still say that Jean sans phoenix force is an upper level medium. Yeah, she's really powerful, but she's clearly a lot weaker than Cable's current power level, or Nate Grey's power level, or Xavier's. Most uber level characters would have no problem clobbering Jean -- Do you really think she would beat people like Superman, Thor, Silver Surfer, or the Hulk?

I say Jean is closer to the level of Storm or Polaris -- both upper level mediums.

[XFanTim]

And I agree with X that Purple Man is a regular. (Not that it matters if I agree, since X now has the decision making power :))

[X]

And I agree with X that Purple Man is a regular. (Not that it matters if I agree, since X now has the decision making power :))

Heh, I haven't even looked at it like that, or thought of it, yadda yadda. Notice, I was saying things like "Middleweight at best" and what not, I really haven't done much of anything. :D

[AnnoyingSilence]

jean grey pre-phoenix mm
jean grey post-phoenix mu
i think that clears it up... i mean before jean grey was ok... not enough to call anything other than reg... after the phoenix she still had power, power enough to just rip fitzroy unbeatable armor right off of'm

[X]

Somebody really needs to pick this guy up...

http://marveldirectory.com/individuals/s/silversamurai.htm

Can cut through damned near anything, three mile teleportation... He could take a lot of people in this thing out, teleporting behind them and bam, that'd be that.

[Johnny Blaze]

Alllllllrightythen...

Everything is back to working order again. *knocks on wood*
I'd like to say thank you to X for keeping things in order while I was on my brief hiatus. :up:

Regarding Jean and Betsy...Jean, I've always thought, was just a shade under Xavier as far as telepathy goes, add in her awesome TK powers and you get an Uber.
Psylocke...I'm gonna look into it more, so, for now, she's staying as a Reg.

Purpleman would be a Reg IMO as well; he's good, but he's no Jesse Custer. :up:

[X]

Ai, no problem, twas' an honor. Not that anything happened, but hey. :D

[Johnny Blaze]

Somebody really needs to pick this guy up...

http://marveldirectory.com/individuals/s/silversamurai.htm

Can cut through damned near anything, three mile teleportation... He could take a lot of people in this thing out, teleporting behind them and bam, that'd be that.
He ****ed Beast up pretty good like that if I remember right; teleported right behind and opened him up before he knew what hit him. :up:

[X]

Nice. :up:

I just see a guy who can cut through anything up to adamantium as pretty badass, all I need to hear. :D

[Johnny Blaze]

I've only read a few issues of X-Men with him in it, but I always liked him when he showed up; he's a good character.

[wiegeabo]

So would Silver Samari be an awesome Reg or a Med? I'm thinking Reg.

[X]

Regular in my opinion. :up:

[AnnoyingSilence]

He ****ed Beast up pretty good like that if I remember right; teleported right behind and opened him up before he knew what hit him. :up:you need to read that again, best was lookin at this picture an the dorr opened be hind him... thats when gambit an the twin s went with

[AnnoyingSilence]

Nice. :up:

I just see a guy who can cut through anything up to adamantium as pretty badass, all I need to hear. :Dman if him an longshot went at it, i'd definitely go for longshot... silver is just too slow, no real speed... i'd say lowlowlow end reg...poison ivy could kick his @$$

[AnnoyingSilence]

So would Silver Samari be an awesome Reg or a Med? I'm thinking Reg.y'd you even ask that? hes a pussy

[Ahura Mazda]

Well Doc Ock has bailed out on me. I will not drop out, but if anybody is willing to partner up I would appreciate it.

I will have days where I will not be on the net including the whole weekend (until I move in to a new appartment once I find it and get internet installed at home). Therefore if anybody of you have freinds who would not mind playing, please suggest this to them. Thanks!!!

[AnnoyingSilence]

http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v318/jusreal/x%20men/X-MenFleerUltra01.jpg

[JewishHobbit]

Silver Samarai is cool. I've always liked him (and AS you have no idea what you're talking about :) ). Not only does his sward rock and his teleportation help, but he's also a good leader. He has a noble honorable side but isn't scared to get dirty when needed. I'm thinking his armor is powerful as well. And he has great speed, he's a samaria remember. He's a good reg in my opinion. I thought about him a few times myself. If you need good reading material he's going to be in some upcoming issues of Rogue in a month or two.

[Tropico]

y'd you even ask that? hes a pussy

:rolleyes:
He's supposed to be a master swordsman (a Samurai, get it?) with teleportational abilites (which are in his armor, not his own).

1-His ability to cut through almost anything is due to channeling his mutant energy powers through the blade. If someone takes his sword away they're gonna have a normal sword in their hands.

2-Taking his sword away doesn't automatically defeat him. If he gets his hands on you he can fry you by channeling his energy. His linitation is that the range for his energy is limited to touch. I can't remember if he once took a long piece of metal and was ****ing up stuff with it when he channeled his energy into it.

And he was pretty cool in the X-Men:Children of the Atom arcade game. :up::D

[Ahura Mazda]

Out of curiosity anybody see what was found out about Aunt Petunia in the SHH Forum. I could not care less but it seems some people are suggested that HE get banned.

[Ahura Mazda]

I do not know whether he gets banned but some seemed to be asking for it and he even said he would leave if people did not want him here, that is why I thhought it would be good to check with the powers that be and him to be sure he is not going to be gone in the next week.

And i will hold off on Drakon until you are sure ragarding Petunia.

[Johnny Blaze]

So would Silver Samari be an awesome Reg or a Med? I'm thinking Reg.
Regular.

And for another partner, you can always try contacting Drakon Ahura. He was interested in the DTL, but I had to tell him no because Harlekin had already taken the final spot.

On hold on sec...Petunia got banned? :confused:

[Harlekin]

On hold on sec...Petunia got banned? :confused:
NO! Some are suggesting it, but we all know that'll never happen.

[Union Jack]

psylocke is definatly a regular,she isnt on jeans or xaviers level,she got ransacked by sabretooth,sure she has some power but so has cap,wolverine,spider-man they have all beaten powerful guys and they are all regular.

[Johnny Blaze]

All right, cool. I figured she wasn't banned when I didn't see it stated in any of her posts. Good to get confirmation on it. :up:
Hate to lose Aunty P right before the season's about to start. :o

[TheCorpulent1]

Wow, that's creepy. I only read a couple of posts in the Community thread, but geez... whatever, he/she/it's still a good DTL'er, so as long as the powers that be decide he's not banned, it doesn't really matter.

[The Leaguer]

Pretty freaky.

[Franklin Richards]

I'm still here. It's just a new avatar.


:thing: :doom: :thing:

[Johnny Blaze]

Wow, that's creepy. I only read a couple of posts in the Community thread, but geez... whatever, he/she/it's still a good DTL'er, so as long as the powers that be decide he's not banned, it doesn't really matter.
That's basically my opinion as well.

It's pretty strange, but you've been a good DTL'er Petunia and as long as you don't get banned you're still in the DTL. :up:

[mikeyh89]

im confused! lol

i better go to the community forum!

i always liked Petunia! :D

[LadyVader]

i always liked Petunia! :D

yeah, that's part of the problem. :D

[TheCorpulent1]

Curious: Since the bar for the highest degree of uberness has lifted to include such badasses as Odin and others, would the original version of the Hourman android be available for me now? The one who still possessed the worlogog? He basically did the same things he can do during his "hour of power" but he could just do them all the time.

[X]

Curious: Since the bar for the highest degree of uberness has lifted to include such badasses as Odin and others, would the original version of the Hourman android be available for me now? The one who still possessed the worlogog? He basically did the same things he can do during his "hour of power" but he could just do them all the time.

I think he'd be too uber, more then likley. He does have one of the most powerful artifacts in comicdom. To really use him without being overwhelming, you'd have to tone him down, and that'd make him pretty much too uber in the first place. People like The Surfer, Dr. Strange, and Takion can affect time to a degree, but the most powerful incarnation of Hourman? Meh.

[TheCorpulent1]

But Hourman pretty much has the same powers during his hour of power. He can pretty much see everything in time simultaneously, see people's entire lives, age, de-age, teleport through time and space, call up artifacts or people from anywhere in time, recreate people from fragments of related materials, and a bunch of other stuff. The only difference would be that because he's not limited to an hour, he'd be able to use his time powers all the time and their effects would be permanent unless he decided to change them.

[Johnny Blaze]

Start date's this coming thursday.

Psylocke will remain a Reg for the time being.

Hourman with the Worlogog would be pushing it. For now it's a no.

[Union Jack]

soooo,do we have a start date for this to begin.
also whats your take on psylocke?(regular,regular,regular!!!!)

[Johnny Blaze]

You know, this whole tear in the space/time continuum thing with the posts is really starting to get annoying. :o

[TheCorpulent1]

Next Thursday.

[TheCorpulent1]

Hourman with the Worlogog would be pushing it. For now it's a no.
So how do I get it to be sometime other than now that's a yes? ;)

[The Leaguer]

You know, Corp, if you had Hourman with the worlogog, you could travel to a time when he was legal. Sweet irony!

[Johnny Blaze]

So how do I get it to be sometime other than now that's a yes? ;)
You can't. :D
You just have to hope that I change my mind later down the road.
Even without it though, he's still one of the top dogs in this thing far as potential is concerned so you have nothing to worry about. :up:


Now, let's see if this post travels back in time...

[Elijya]

You can't. :D
You just have to hope that I change my mind later down the road.
Even without it though, he's still one of the top dogs in this thing far as potential is concerned so you have nothing to worry about. :up:


Now, let's see if this post travels back in time...

you could let him have him and give me the saint ;)

[Johnny Blaze]

you could let him have him and give me the saint ;)
They both might be deemed just Uber in the future, but for now no. :p

[The Leaguer]

Which Saint? Saint of Killers?

[Johnny Blaze]

That'd be the one.