Dream Team League (Discussion)

[wiegeabo]

When I meet someones team for the second time, will they remember the first battle? For instance, no one's going to know Darklore the first time they fight him (unless they're a member of the Infinity Watch), but would this still be true the second time around?

Also, how does it work with creating weapons for our team? Like, say Polaris uses her magnetic powers to make a super-sharp sword and gives it to Zoom, would he still have it in the next week? Would it depend on whether Polaris was still in my starting lineup?


I, and others, had our teams remember previous battles and enemies. So they will remember the first fights. The only thing they won't remember is dying. With each battle, the characters have to believe that if they die, it is permanent, even though we can still use them the next week. This makes any ultimate sacrifices more noble, and makes sure that they don't kill everyone, including teammates, just to win. If they die, they won't remember doing so the next week.

You can't keep weapons from week to week though. I think we had a big argument about this last season. Now if you want to make the same weapons each week, that's fine, but it could get a little monotonous.

[Harlekin]

Too bad I have to wreck the 4000 posts on this thing though. 4001, here we come!

Anyway, is it true that you have to vote for all three matches at once? Because I already put one vote in for Elijya, but I'll just post it again when I vote on all the matches.

Secondly, sorry to see you go Union Jack, although I think you completely misinterpretated what went on with the voting and stuff. Your write-up was not crap.

For the final matter, there will be a two week absence from me in February. I'm leaving Wensday the 16th on vacation, and will be returning ten days later. If I'm still in the game by then, I'll make sure someone can pass along my write-up for the match on the 17th.

[wiegeabo]

For each thread, you have to vote on all three matches, or JB won't count them. You don't have to vote on all of the threads, but not doing so would just be bad form. :p

[Harlekin]

Okay cool. I was planning to vote on pretty much every thread though.

[The Leaguer]

You can vote for each match as you go along. That is to say, you don't have to put all your votes in the same post or post them at the same time.

[Union Jack]

Too bad I have to wreck the 4000 posts on this thing though. 4001, here we come!

Anyway, is it true that you have to vote for all three matches at once? Because I already put one vote in for Elijya, but I'll just post it again when I vote on all the matches.

Secondly, sorry to see you go Union Jack, although I think you completely misinterpretated what went on with the voting and stuff. Your write-up was not crap.

For the final matter, there will be a two week absence from me in February. I'm leaving Wensday the 16th on vacation, and will be returning ten days later. If I'm still in the game by then, I'll make sure someone can pass along my write-up for the match on the 17th.

yeah,i'm not blaming no one for me dropping out,it is a shame cos i did enjoy writing it,i am just real strapped for time now due to work,i'm even gonna have to work sundays!!!
hope someone can take my team,i think it is a good team,if no one takes it perhaps someone can PM me and i'll see what i can do,but like last season,its unfair on the opponent when the other guy dont do his write up which is why i'm dropping out.
nightwing the other lad who is interested,i can ask him if he wants in but he is a newcomer to comics,and i dont even know alot of the obscure characters in this game!!!
but again if no one at all takes it before say the next game just let me know.

[Harlekin]

Thanks guys. I think I'll just put them in one post in further matches, and I'll leave it like it is for now.

UJ: Elijya has actually already posted up a bit of his write-up (or the entire thing, can't remember exactly).

[Johnny Blaze]

Anyway, is it true that you have to vote for all three matches at once? Because I already put one vote in for Elijya, but I'll just post it again when I vote on all the matches.It would be best if you do, because usually if I see that someone has only voted for one team I'll just completely ignore it. Since you said something though, I'll mark it down...provided you do indeed vote for the other matchups. :D

In the future, it would be easier if you just held off and voted on all the matches at once. :up:


As for that Wendigo, there'd have to be a cap on how many dupes he could create, since being able to create an army of Middleweights would be pretty jewish, Hobbit. :)

[XFanTim]

Well, I guess it's time for me to start thinking about week 2:

Some questions about Jesse Custer:
Do people have to be able to hear him for his power to affect them? (i.e., should I have my team wear earplugs?)

Do people have a choice in how they follow is instructions. Like if he told someone to kill themselves, could they choose to do it by grabbing one of their oponents and blowing them both up? (assuming it was someone who had the ability to blow himself up)

What happens if he asks someone to do something that's physically impossible for them to do?

Does his power only work on people who understand English (or whatever language Jesse is speaking)? Not that it's likely to come up in this fight, but could he tell someone who only spoke a foreign language what to do? What about someone who didn't speak any language, like an animal?

[X]

Well, I guess it's time for me to start thinking about week 2:

Some questions about Jesse Custer:
Do people have to be able to hear him for his power to affect them? (i.e., should I have my team wear earplugs?)

Do people have a choice in how they follow is instructions. Like if he told someone to kill themselves, could they choose to do it by grabbing one of their oponents and blowing them both up? (assuming it was someone who had the ability to blow himself up)

What happens if he asks someone to do something that's physically impossible for them to do?

Does his power only work on people who understand English (or whatever language Jesse is speaking)? Not that it's likely to come up in this fight, but could he tell someone who only spoke a foreign language what to do? What about someone who didn't speak any language, like an animal?

Yes, you have to hear him clearlly. Earplugs do work, but the thing is, none of your guys is going to know anything about him.

Well, if he told you to simply die, you'd fall over dead. If he told you to go **** yourself, you take it literally. So no, you don't have much choice.

Physically impossible? Well, he told a guy to go **** himself, so he cut if off and did it because he coulddn't do it from the get go. He told a bunch of soldiers to **** off, which meant they had to run away, forever. :D

Yes, it only works on people that can understand him, people that know English. No, he coulden't tell someone who doesn't understand English to do something. An animal? Nope. Cat flat out ignored him. :D

[XFanTim]

Yes, you have to hear him clearlly. Earplugs do work, but the thing is, none of your guys is going to know anything about him.
That's true, but I might be able to come up with some ways around that . . .

Cat flat out ignored him. :DHa! The guy can give orders to God (or so I've heard) but can't get a cat to even listen to him. Sounds about right :D

[primemover]

Tim, just recruit Cassidy for a round, he'd be able to fill all of your guys in, he is also a pretty tough vampire type that heals! Now, is the Blue area of the Moon day or night?

[Nightwing.]

id be happy to take union jacks team off him.

[primemover]

Blaze, and the rest of the league, I have some questions and ideas about the judging period.

I am having a really hard time reading and digesting all of these stories enough to make a educated judgement in the time we have to do this. By the time most everybody has their stories up in their completed forms it is late Saturday, which leaves basically less than a day and a half to read 24 stories and make educated judgements on 12 different battles.

What I am wondering is why they have to be in by Monday afternoon, and if that deadline can be stretched to the point where we have to turn in rosters for the next round, Wednesday. That would give us 2 more days to really give each battle a good look-through.

Then you could just post the winners at the same time you post the new battles, on Thursday. Does this strike anybody else as being a good thing to possibly do?

[JewishHobbit]

lt may seem hard now but you'll get the hang of it. I say keep it the way it is.

[TheCorpulent1]

Maybe there is merit to primemover's concerns, actually. The DTL's expanded by a lot this season so I think it would be best to extend the voting time a bit. We're basically reading short stories that would span several pages in some cases if printed, and frequently the best write-ups do tend to be a bit long, so it is a lot to take in. At the very least, we could push the cutoff to Tuesday and give people one more night to read everything. We can still trade and everything during the voting stage since no trades go through until the next match anyway.

[JewishHobbit]

I don't think it'd be a problem if people actually got their write ups done in time instead of waiting until the last minute. I noticed that several people waited until today or last night to get their write ups done when technically they should have been done by then for voting purpouses. I think this would still be fine if everyone posted their fights when they are able to instead of waiting,... then we have plenty of time to read.

[X]

Maybe there is merit to primemover's concerns, actually. The DTL's expanded by a lot this season so I think it would be best to extend the voting time a bit. We're basically reading short stories that would span several pages in some cases if printed, and frequently the best write-ups do tend to be a bit long, so it is a lot to take in. At the very least, we could push the cutoff to Tuesday and give people one more night to read everything. We can still trade and everything during the voting stage since no trades go through until the next match anyway.

Yeah, I'll agree with that. Hell, I know I'm trying to read everything, and it's not like I dislike it, but it's a friggin lot to read. I say give us a bit more time, it's not like any of us have to have things in on a certain time, no obligation. Hell, let the DTL drag on for a bit more time. My opinion anyhow.

[The Leaguer]

I agree with JH. I feel it's less a matter of extending the voting time as it is having owners get their write-ups in earlier. I'm not pointing anyone out, I know I'm just as guilty as others, but I'll be making a conscious effort to get the rest of my write-ups out earlier.

[X]

Same. As I said earlier, I'm still getting into the whole DTL thing again, it's a bit hard, especially when you do a really long write-up. I still think we could extend things a day or so though.

[TheCorpulent1]

I didn't get to write my write-up because I have work and class on Thursday from the early afternoon until late at night, a full day of class on Friday, and an 8-hour workday on Saturday. I tried to get my write-up done by Friday night but around 3 a.m. I was just too tired to finish and the voice in the back of my head was telling me I wouldn't be able to wake up for work the next day too.

I'm not trying to get pity for my sob story or anything, my point is that some people just don't have the time to post their write-ups for a while. Even if we do get it in there before voting begins, we've still got the problem of reading a considerable amount around our busy schedules too. Plus, as they say, "s*** happens." Unplanned stuff slows us down sometimes. I don't really see a problem with extending the voting time. An extra day or two of voting wouldn't hurt the people who do have the time to get everything done quickly and it would greatly benefit those of us who might not.

[X]

:up:

Hell, I've got exams all next week. Every other week I spend a weekend in another state, which takes up tons of my time. It's circumstancial for everyone, and some people can do it, and some can't, but I still think an extra day would help a lot of people. And for those it won't? Well, it won't hurt them either, I don't think too many people look forward to sitting down for hours on end writing.

[Darthphere]

I wanna say something about my match. I appreciate all the votes ive gotten so far but I think its unfair to Mikey since he took the time to do a write-up. Im not telling you to vote for him or vote for me but I think Mikey took the time to do a write-up and deserves the votes. Hopefully ill get into this next week.

I also wanted to say that not enough notice was given of the the start of the season IMO. I havent visited the DTL threads in a while and had no clue what was going on. I got a PM from JB saying the season started 2 days ago. Its my fault for not visiting the threads and reading up on the schedules but I think a more adequate notice shouldve been given.

[The Leaguer]

Well, assuming Harlekin does get to keep Optimus Prime, I had better read the phrases, "He must be stopped, no matter the cost" and, "One shall stand, one shall fall" at least once this season.

[Elijya]

,its unfair on the opponent when the other guy dont do his write up which is why i'm dropping out.


#1 lots of people miss their write ups occassionally

#2 I did start doing my write up, as you can see if you look

[Elijya]

Tim, just recruit Cassidy for a round, he'd be able to fill all of your guys in, he is also a pretty tough vampire type that heals! Now, is the Blue area of the Moon day or night?

damn you! :mad:

I'll get him first

[Elijya]

Well, I guess it's time for me to start thinking about week 2:

Some questions about Jesse Custer:
Do people have to be able to hear him for his power to affect them? (i.e., should I have my team wear earplugs?)

Do people have a choice in how they follow is instructions. Like if he told someone to kill themselves, could they choose to do it by grabbing one of their oponents and blowing them both up? (assuming it was someone who had the ability to blow himself up)

What happens if he asks someone to do something that's physically impossible for them to do?

Does his power only work on people who understand English (or whatever language Jesse is speaking)? Not that it's likely to come up in this fight, but could he tell someone who only spoke a foreign language what to do? What about someone who didn't speak any language, like an animal?

good questions, and fortunately, garth ennis already thought of most of them :up:

yes, the person has to actually hear Custer. A woman once put her fingers in her ears because she knew he was trying to use the word on her. Now, theoretically, I might be able to have a telepath beam a command into everyone's head, but I won't. Besides, no one has any knowledge of Jesse Custer, as x pointed out, so you'd have to explain why someone would block their ears.

in every instance where he has given a command, people have taken what he said either very literally, or precisely how jesse intended. Examples: a man was told to go **** himself, and he tore off his own, ahem, unit, and put it in his ass. Another group of men were told simply to "**** off!" and they immediately started running in the opposite direction, and one asked another "Forever?" it was never clear if they men were ever allowed to stop. Jesse has also given complicated instructions before, but then only used the word with a simple "Get To it" and the people understand what he means. Once, a character went through a traumatic experience, and Jesse simply told him "forget it". He didn't specify what the person was to forget, but it was implied and the results were what Jesse intended. With all this evidence, I'd say there'd be very little room for someone to put their own spin on a command. They follow the instructions as quickly and simply as possible.

your third question is precisely why jesse is a medium and not an uber: he can't bend reality, he can only take away free will. He can't tell Psylocke to fly into the sun, because she can't fly. Although, if he did tell her that, she might make towards a space ship and fly it there.....

If someone does not inherently understand what jesse asks, they can't do it. So, nono if they don't understand english, and nono if it's a skill they don't possess. If he ordered someone to perform heart surgery, they would try, but they would only succeed as well as you or I probably would

[XFanTim]

Am I allowed to gather info by magical means? Because then I could just have Darklore do a scrying spell, or if I end up using Warlock as my MU he has the Orb of Eternity that can basically tell him anything about anyone. (It gave him the whole life history of Count Abyss -- I just reread that story arc, which is why I keep referencing it -- and Abyss is from a distant dimension.) Of course, if that's allowed then Dr. Fate could use magic to learn about my team too.

Regarding extending the voting period, the only problem I have with that is that I'm not sure I could survive the stress of waiting that long to find out if I won or lost. :)

And regarding voting for people who didn't do writeups (which I did a couple times), my thinking was (1) if I think someone has the superior team, then the other owner really needs to address my concerns if they want my vote. Some people wrote good, entertaining writeups but I still felt there were weaknesses of their team that weren't addressed. And (2) If I had to just automatically vote for someone because their oponent didn't do a writeup, it would be like giving someone an automatic victory, which just doesn't sit well with me.

[JewishHobbit]

Regarding extending the voting period, the only problem I have with that is that I'm not sure I could survive the stress of waiting that long to find out if I won or lost. :)

Yeah, that's one of my things too. It kills me waiting as long as I do as it is. Heck,... right now I'm checking Tim and my match every two minutes or so when I'm online hoping someone else has voted with how close we are. I think if I had to wait longer I'd have an anurism of some kind. And that just wouldn't do well for my DTL write ups.

[Tropico]

I would say that it'd be smart to extend the voting period for the first 3 or 4 matches as people get used to it, including this one.

Regarding the voting:
I thought that the post with the votes HAS to have all votes in it or it doesn't count. Also, votes cannot be changed.
As I understood it from last season, the person has to vote on ALL threads or all votes are null and void for that voter. Since determining who is the winner in event of a tie is done through counting votes it's imperative that this rule stand.

[JewishHobbit]

Regarding the voting:
I thought that the post with the votes HAS to have all votes in it or it doesn't count. Also, votes cannot be changed.
As I understood it from last season, the person has to vote on ALL threads or all votes are null and void for that voter. Since determining who is the winner in event of a tie is done through counting votes it's imperative that this rule stand.

I agree with this. I noticed that there were two who have only voted for 1 person in one thread and 3 in another and that's it. I just PM'd that person and detailed the rules in voting and sent him a link to all the threads that needs voting on still so that hopfully he'll respond and complete his voting. this way all his votes count. But yeah,... I still agree that votes should be on every match or none. Otherwise people can bring in friends to vote for their match or thread and ignore the rest and that person will have an upperhand in total votes if a tie in wins and losses were in affect.

[X]

Am I allowed to gather info by magical means? Because then I could just have Darklore do a scrying spell, or if I end up using Warlock as my MU he has the Orb of Eternity that can basically tell him anything about anyone. (It gave him the whole life history of Count Abyss -- I just reread that story arc, which is why I keep referencing it -- and Abyss is from a distant dimension.) Of course, if that's allowed then Dr. Fate could use magic to learn about my team too.

No, this was allowed last season, but not now. No telepaths, no scrying pools, nothing. It's all about what your characters know, whether it to personal, first hand knowledge or resources.

[XFanTim]

At first I was thinking it would be a bit lame for someone to win their match just because a couple voters screwed up and didn't read the directions. But then I thought, if they can't even read the directions, what are the chances they actually did a careful job reading the writeups? So it seems like a sensible rule to me.

[The Leaguer]

No, this was allowed last season, but not now. No telepaths, no scrying pools, nothing. It's all about what your characters know, whether it to personal, first hand knowledge or resources.
That's only during the prep-time. Once the actual match starts, anything goes.

[Elijya]

No, this was allowed last season, but not now. No telepaths, no scrying pools, nothing. It's all about what your characters know, whether it to personal, first hand knowledge or resources.


oh, didn't realize that. But they do know the lineups of their opposing team, right? so weaknesses can be discuss in the 24 hour prep time if there's a character familiar to any one of the starters, right?

[JewishHobbit]

correct

[The Leaguer]

Yep.

[X]

oh, didn't realize that. But they do know the lineups of their opposing team, right? so weaknesses can be discuss in the 24 hour prep time if there's a character familiar to any one of the starters, right?

Yeah, they know names and what not. Leaguer shows his guys pictures. They can deduct self for themselves. You know, like Green Arrow might mean he's profecient with the bow, or Magneto. And weaknesses are fine. Hell, if you have someone native to the DCU like Firestorm, have him create a few tons of Kryptonite, it's all fair. :)

[TheCorpulent1]

Now that scrying pools and the like are unavailable, I basically just have the names of all the enemy characters slipped into the minds of all my people via... well, me. For we are higher beings who are bound by yet higher rules.

What really helps is having a character on the Avengers or JLA, since they're the premiere teams from each reality and have likely encountered virtually every villain. Actually, I've got a question in that respect: say an Avengers member encounters someone separately from the team. Could we assume the Avengers files would have info on that character even though the Avengers didn't meet them? It's not a big stretch to imagine that a character who's on the Avengers might log information about other characters they meet on their own in the Avengers' files, just in case.

[XFanTim]

No, this was allowed last season, but not now. No telepaths, no scrying pools, nothing. It's all about what your characters know, whether it to personal, first hand knowledge or resources.
OK. Hmm, that makes it more challenging . . . actually, now I'm more worried about Cosmic Storm, because no one's going to have a clue what his powers are either.

But what exactly do you mean by resources? Like computer files? Does the Orb of Eternity not count as a resource? Because I'm not sure what would make Adam asking the Orb any different than Thanos checking his computer database. Both are just devices that provide information.

It might make sense to say that the Orb can use it's pre-existing knowledge of anyone in the mainstream Marvel Universe, but not get info about anyone outside the Marvel U. (In which case I could use it to find out about Cosmic Storm, but not Jesse Custer.)

But if I can't use it, I can't use it. Just means I'd need to do a bit more planning.

[TheCorpulent1]

By that token, the Amulet of Anubis on Dr. Fate or the Eye of Agomotto on Dr. Strange are "databases" themselves. Only they pull their information up on the spot in real-time.

[X]

You can't use all knowing objects and what not. You can't have a telepath just scan the other team and be set. It comes down to personal knowledge and the such, as some people abused the first, uh, resource gathering things last season.

If Captain America fought someone, it's logged into The Avenger's files, report filed by himself. I remember when The Thunderbolts got acess, Mach whatever commented on how he found the incident logged where beat Captain America, which is barely a note in the MU history. If you had Nick Fury, he has acess to everything... Secret Identities, Avenger's stuff, all that.

[Elijya]

wait, so what's did we decide? if anyone was ever a member of the avengers, it can be assumed they remember everything from the database?

here's another: can your reserve members share info with your starters during the preptime?

[wiegeabo]

You can't scan the other team during prep-time. All you get are images, names, and knowledge that everyone on the team already has.

But once the battle starts, you can scan with magic, telepathy, whatever you've got. Of course the other side can do the same thing, which means you'll both have to spend energy and time putting up blocks. There's also the problem of being able to distribute any information to other characters in the middle of the fight.

[X]

wait, so what's did we decide? if anyone was ever a member of the avengers, it can be assumed they remember everything from the database?

here's another: can your reserve members share info with your starters during the preptime?

They don't remember, they use the actual database.

No, reserve members have no part in anything.

[XFanTim]

I have some questions about Cosmic Storm:

Is he a normal person under his forcefields? I read one of the issues in the store, and I think he said he was protecting himself from space using his forcefield. So does he still need to breathe? Also, his shields don't block people's powers, do they? I mean, Firestorm could get rid of all the oxygen in his lungs (assuming he still needs to breathe) even if he has a forcefield up, right?

Not that that's necessarily how I'm going to fight him . . . it's just one idea.

[Elijya]

well, he's got the power cosmic, so I would never assume he's just a normal person beyond his forcefield and invisibilty powers. Is firelord just a normal dude dude who can control fire? is Terrax a normal dude who can control rocks? no, tehy go way beyond that

[Elijya]

They don't remember, they use the actual database.


wait, so they can use a database?

[TheCorpulent1]

Yes, he is a normal person underneath the fields. I wouldn't count on anyone buying that Johnny would leave himself unprotected for one of your characters to conveniently blindside him when he's got Power Cosmic-powered invisible forcefields at his command, though.

Edit: Actually, Elijya does make a good point. Johnny may be super-powered physically now, as well.

I don't know if the forcefields block that sort of thing. Sue's were purely physical as far as I remember, but I don't remember seeing anything to tell us one way or another whether Johnny's can block insubstantial attacks too.

Back to my question: I guess I left out the most important part. Are we taking into consideration the characters? Like, say, would the Avengers have knowledge of a foe only Spider-Man's fought? He is technically a member but I don't see him ever dropping by Avengers mansion to log some data files. Quasar, on the other hand, I could see beaming data across the cosmos with his quantum bands to keep the Avengers apprised of what's happening in the universe.
wait, so they can use a database?
Yeah, it's sort of assumed that they can access the database. Somehow. We don't know how, but they can. Just say the Avengers' data files are encoded on their communicards or something.

[Elijya]

wait, wait, wait

every single previous herald of galactus was more than just a normal person after being imbued with the PC. that's a presidence

[TheCorpulent1]

I know, I edited. I'd still err on the lower end of the physical spectrum though. We know Galactus' heralds all vary in toughness and strength to some degree, from the insanely uber-badass (Morg, Terrax) to the fairly tough but still relatively pussified (Firelord, Air-Walker). They're usually based on the type of their powers, too. Firelord's obviously more of a fire elemental type of guy, so his strong suit is flame-based energy attacks. Morg, on the other hand, is a guy with an axe, so his forte is super-strength and the ability to pummel. Johnny's power is potent enough and ranged enough and defensive enough that I doubt his physical stats would've been taken way, way up.

[Elijya]

not way, way up, but I would think he could still match any regular in hand to hand combat from increased strength and durability (though obviously not skill). Assuming the minimum, from previous heralds, I'd guess he's at least a class 10 or 20 now

[Harlekin]

Well, assuming Harlekin does get to keep Optimus Prime, I had better read the phrases, "He must be stopped, no matter the cost" and, "One shall stand, one shall fall" at least once this season.
Count on it! :up:

[The Leaguer]

Awesome.

[XFanTim]

Sure other heralds had more-than-human bodies, but didn't Johnny say something in the comic about using his forcefield to protect him from space? The first time Galactus beamed him out of the ship, he said "Did I just get put out in the yard like a dog?" and then he said something like "It's a good thing I have my forcefield to protect me." But I could be misremembering -- I just flipped through it once in the store. Can someone who has the comic please check?

At any rate, I don't really care if he's physically stronger, I just want to know if his body still processes air and water in the normal way. I'm guessing yes, because he also commented on how he needed to pee. Which I'm pretty sure isn't a need that, say, the Silver Surfer ever has.

Also, I need a definitive answer: can Johnny's forcefields block Firestorm's power, or, say, Iceman's? I would say if Sue can't block powers like that then Johnny shouldn't be able to, unless it's been indicated in the comics that he can. I mean, it's possible that he can, but it doesn't seem fair to just assume that he could.

[Elijya]

if sue's can block fire powers, they should be able to block any energy power, depending on the power behind them, of course

[X]

Can't stop light. Same principle with Darkseid and his ultra tough shield. I could have Takion turn himself to light, beam right through and wreck Sue, or Cosmic Storm. :D

[XFanTim]

if sue's can block fire powers, they should be able to block any energy power, depending on the power behind them, of course
But I'm not talking about hitting someone with an energy blast. I have no doubt that if Firestorm blasts Johnny's shield, it won't go through. I'm just wondering about the transmutation power. Firestorm can will things to change from one substance into another, and Iceman can will water to become ice. It's not something they shoot at someone.

[primemover]

So has blaze said anything about the possibility of extending the voting deadline, I would really love to get to bed at a decent hour tonight :)

And Eliyja, you are a bastard for recruiting Cass!!

[The Leaguer]

I don't think he's been on lately.

[primemover]

But I'm not talking about hitting someone with an energy blast. I have no doubt that if Firestorm blasts Johnny's shield, it won't go through. I'm just wondering about the transmutation power. Firestorm can will things to change from one substance into another, and Iceman can will water to become ice. It's not something they shoot at someone.

I have a question here about Firestorm, Tim's quote above reminded me.

In Tims write-up, he had Firestorm trap Flash in a block of adamantium by transmuting the substance from one to another. Now I would think this is on a molecular level, and air's molecules would be a ton less dense than adamantium, so where are all of these molecules coming from, are they being made on the spot, being teleported to that spot, or are they being grabbed from the air around the incident?

[mikeyh89]

i have a question (like thats new), but does anyone know if Banshee is taken? i want to know cuz i feel him and Dazzler would work really well together with the sound into light, y'know? i got reminded of him because someone said Cassidy a few pages back, just wondering if maybe any of you knew :)

[XFanTim]

Can't stop light. Same principle with Darkseid and his ultra tough shield. I could have Takion turn himself to light, beam right through and wreck Sue, or Cosmic Storm.
Good point. If it's an invisible forcefield, then by definition it doesn't reflect or absorb any light. :up:

Regarding Firestorm's power, I don't really know how it works myself. I know he's transmuted air into substances that are obviously more dense then air, but I'm not sure where the extra mass comes from.

Mikey, if you want to know if someone's taken, check the update thread (it's fallen to the second page of Misc).

[TheCorpulent1]

I have a question here about Firestorm, Tim's quote above reminded me.

In Tims write-up, he had Firestorm trap Flash in a block of adamantium by transmuting the substance from one to another. Now I would think this is on a molecular level, and air's molecules would be a ton less dense than adamantium, so where are all of these molecules coming from, are they being made on the spot, being teleported to that spot, or are they being grabbed from the air around the incident?
He's probably using more air molecules, breaking them down into component atoms, and rearranging the atomic structures to create bondable adamantium atoms that would then create a whole substance. That's the only thing I can think of. He'd have considerably less adamantium at the end than he had air at the beginning, though.

Elijya: I'd agree with that guess. His stats would probably be amped up to about Spidey's level. Probably not as high on the agility though.

About the invisible forcefields, I doubt they'd keep out anything that's just willed like transmutation powers or that sort of thing. I don't think Sue's kept out telepathic attacks, so wouldn't willed attacks be basically the same?

[Elijya]

in regards to iceman: once, when it was a moent of life or death, Iceman complete froze ever molecule of legions body. It took alot for him to have the will to do that. It was an end-of-the-world situation. Our characters know tehy're in a game, I don't think bobby would push himself taht far for a game. Secondly, of course, Legion then managed to free himself. How is not exactly clear, but it can be supposed he summoned his pyrokenesis (how with his brain frozen is another question) to bring himself back. If legion could do taht, I'm sure the power cosmic could do that for johnny

as to firestorm, if you're asking if he can reach through johnny's field, and transmute him into, say, a blcok of lead, then he could do that to anyone, and he'd be getting a bit too uber....

[Elijya]

About the invisible forcefields, I doubt they'd keep out anything that's just willed like transmutation powers or that sort of thing. I don't think Sue's kept out telepathic attacks, so wouldn't willed attacks be basically the same?


I'm almost certain the PC has amped up the fields' capabilities, so there's certainbly a possibilty they might be able to keep out telepathy, maybe phasing, and other such unique powers, but alas, I have no basis for it yet. Maybe with coming issues, Waid will shed more light on it...

[XFanTim]

Although my version of Firestorm can transmute organics (unlike the original Firestorm), he's forsworn this ability, so he's not going to transmute Johnny into lead one way or the other. Maybe he'd use this against someone who was pure evil, if the situation were really desperate, but not against a hero like Johnny Storm. I had been thinking of having him transmute the oxygen in Johnny's lungs into something else, to make him pass out (assuming he even needs oxygen). But as the ideas evolve in my head I'm thinking of other ways to stop Johnny, so I don't really care about whether he needs air or water anymore.

However, I do still want to know if his field blocks powers, because now I'm concerned about Johnny's ability to shield Jesse. I mean, there's a good chance Jesse will take out at least one of my characters before they all realize how big a threat he is, but then I was thinking of ways they could get him to stop talking. Firestorm could make a cloud of smoke that gives him a coughing fit, for example. But if Johhny can just throw up a forcefield around him that blocks all their powers, then I might need to pick up another character specifically to deal with this. Because I doubt my team could pound through a cosmically powered forcefield quicker than Jesse could say "All of you, take a hike." (Especially since they won't be prepared for Johnny's powers or Jesse's.)

At any rate, I guess I'll just assume that doing something like "choking Jesse on a cloud of gas" even though he's behind Johnny's field is legit, unless someone has some evidence of why it wouldn't be. Of course, it wouldn't be hard for Johnny or Dr. Fate to get rid of a cloud of gas, but I guess I'll deal with that when the time comes. I'm not even sure if that's how I'd handle it, it's just an example.

[Elijya]

good strategizing... :up:

but I've got some tricks up my sleeve I've yet to reveal...

[XFanTim]

That's OK, so do I. :) It oughta be a fun fight to write.

You have a kickass team by the way. Ultrapowerful magic user, herald of Galactus, and, oh just for the hell of it, a guy who can make anyone do whatever he says. But hey, I love a challenge. ;)

[Elijya]

lol

yeah, well transmutation's not bad, either :p :D

am I going up against you next round?

[XFanTim]

Yep. Week 2: The Tremendous Ten vs. the Mondo Funkies.

[Elijya]

both our team names suck....

[XFanTim]

ha, at least I didn't call them The Timendous Ten. :D

[Elijya]

oh, god, make it stop....

[JewishHobbit]

Hey Mikey,... no Banshee isn't taken. I had him a good part of last season and just traded him out before this season started. I loved his character and I could imagine him and Dazzler being well together. That plus Banshee's a good leader, and experienced hand to hand combatant, and has a lot of Military training.

[Ahura Mazda]

Hello Lady Vader,

Have you posted your week 2 team, my Lady.

Ahura Mazda

[Tropico]

He's probably using more air molecules, breaking them down into component atoms, and rearranging the atomic structures to create bondable adamantium atoms that would then create a whole substance. That's the only thing I can think of. He'd have considerably less adamantium at the end than he had air at the beginning, though.

Elijya: I'd agree with that guess. His stats would probably be amped up to about Spidey's level. Probably not as high on the agility though.

About the invisible forcefields, I doubt they'd keep out anything that's just willed like transmutation powers or that sort of thing. I don't think Sue's kept out telepathic attacks, so wouldn't willed attacks be basically the same?

Firestorm has never had any problems with "having enough molecules" to do conversion. Also, creations are instantaneous and not subject to his being conscious. He once turned a car to rubber to break his fall and when the (drunk) owner of the car tried to use the key to open the door he thought he was so wasted that he thought the car was all mushy. I've always seen him shoot a beam at the area he's transmuting, I can't rightly say if this was done as special effect or if the actual beam has to connect for transmutation. In Crisis on infinite Earths he's bathing Martian Manhunter in water and we see the atomic effect on his hand, but no beam so it could go either way.

[TheCorpulent1]

Transmuting people into blocks of lead doesn't make people too uber. Sersi could transmute everyone on the other team to blocks of lead with a snap of her fingers. She's transmuted three people at once into different animals before. You've just gotta plan for it. Elijya, you'd have no problem with that considering Dr. Fate's on your team.

[Elijya]

but it's essentially in insta-kill, and if he has firestorm use it, I can have Jesse break out the Word for one, too

[TheCorpulent1]

So there you go. Instant revenge. I like having a few elements like that in the game, it forces you to think of creative ways to get around them.

[Johnny Blaze]

Ok, well here's what I'll do...

For this week, and this week only, I'll extend the voting period one more day.

So, voting will end tomorrow around 1PM EST. :up:

[mikeyh89]

damn, i hate waiting lol!

also. thanks Hobbit! im considering grabbing Sean but i will hafta think about it!

[Ahura Mazda]

Just wondering this, would a normal Sentinel be a regular?

[Elijya]

by sentinel, do you mean the giant mutant hunting robots? if they're allowed, they'd be medium

[XFanTim]

but it's essentially in insta-kill, and if he has firestorm use it, I can have Jesse break out the Word for one, too
For the record, I'm not planning to "insta-kill" anyone.

[Johnny Blaze]

Just wondering this, would a normal Sentinel be a regular?
You'd have to have a specific Sentinel, like Nimrod, Mastermold, Bastion, or Mastermold/Nimrod for example.

[Johnny Blaze]

id be happy to take union jacks team off him.
It's yours then. :up:

[JewishHobbit]

Here's thought for a character,... what about X-51..... or specifically the Sentinel version of X-51 from his most current run. He seemed pretty tough. It's been a while since I read it though or I'd give details on him. I'll see what I can find for a bio.

Edit:

Here's a good bio for him -
Machine Man aka X-51 (http://marveldirectory.com/individuals/m/machineman.htm)

[TheCorpulent1]

I stopped reading that series about halfway through. I love the Machine Man, though. His visit to Avengers mansion and the resulting ass-kickings he handed Firestar and Justice were good. :)

I don't remember everything about him, but I think the new Deathlok from that Marvel Tech line was pretty good too.

[X]

by sentinel, do you mean the giant mutant hunting robots? if they're allowed, they'd be medium

Normal Sentinel? Nah, regular. I've seen Magneto casually sit down and destroy waves of them, several waves a day like nothing. Hell, Cyclops and Wolverine can take them down. Don't know why you'd want a no name Sentinel, but hey, up to you. Well, actually, you could have a specific one. I know there was a What If where Cannonball's brother had one as a pet.

[X]

but it's essentially in insta-kill, and if he has firestorm use it, I can have Jesse break out the Word for one, too

No, it's not. Beings with total moleculer control can easily get around it (Eternals, Composite Man, Thanos) and it simply doesn't work on some people. Rom has armor that very difficult to tamper with for instance.

[Franklin Richards]

I think I've seen Kitty take out a regular Sentinel with her phasing electronic disrupting powers. I'd say Regular. As a matter of fact. I'd let them have a squad of 4 and still let it count as 1 regular. :D


:thing: :doom: :thing:

[Nightwing.]

ok so ive taken over union jacks team.3 questions 1)who am i up against next and 2)when am i against them? and 3)when am i supposed to have my write up for?

[X]

http://www.superherohype.com/forums/showthread.php?t=125148

[The Leaguer]

You'll be up against the next team this up-coming Thursday. You will want your write-up in by Saturday, because that is when voting starts. You don't have to get your write-up in then, or ever for that matter, but it's wise to, and highly recommended.

[Nightwing.]

You'll be up against the next team this up-coming Thursday. You will want your write-up in by Saturday, because that is when voting starts. You don't have to get your write-up in then, or ever for that matter, but it's wise to, and highly recommended.

who is the next up coming team?

[XFanTim]

scroll down in the update thread X posted to where it lists the week 2 matchups

[The Leaguer]

It's listed in the link X gave you. That has the entire schedule and list of team rosters.

[Nightwing.]

where do we post our write ups?theres no week 2 set 3 or anything.

[Ahura Mazda]

Normal Sentinel? Nah, regular. I've seen Magneto casually sit down and destroy waves of them, several waves a day like nothing. Hell, Cyclops and Wolverine can take them down. Don't know why you'd want a no name Sentinel, but hey, up to you. Well, actually, you could have a specific one. I know there was a What If where Cannonball's brother had one as a pet.



I did not say I wanted one; I was just wondering on the status of one. Thanks for the information.

[Ahura Mazda]

Welcome Nightwing to the DTL. Good luck....except against me :p

[AnnoyingSilence]

heres one...

doctor doom/power comic

hes got its all(too uber if you ask me). he got the uncanny ability to make reality. just 2sec after he got the power he shifted the whole room too look like him, an then took on the beyonder(no chance ofcourse, but he held his own for a minute. even defied death a couple times)

[Franklin Richards]

That's Doc with all the power from TAA II, Galactus' homeworld ship, when he converted it to energy to eat, not Surfer's. Big difference. :D


:doom: :doom: :doom:

[AnnoyingSilence]

That's Doc with all the power from TAA II, Galactus' homeworld ship, when he converted it to energy to eat, not Surfer's. Big difference.TAA? i'm talkin secret wars(I), yes it was galactus absorbing his ship, but i said nothin about surfer

[XFanTim]

too uber if you ask me
I agree with that assessment. Too uber.

[XFanTim]

where do we post our write ups?theres no week 2 set 3 or anything.
There will be when it's time to do the writeups.

[JewishHobbit]

I don't that that Rogue is too Uber. Heck,.. If my Cerebro is allowed she's just a lesser degree of what he can do. I'd definately say Uber but no where near Too Uber. Most Ubers in this think could still take her out fairly easily.

[LadyVader]

Hello Lady Vader,

Have you posted your week 2 team, my Lady.

Ahura Mazda

not yet but I'm thinking about it.
I think I'll have it up by the end of today... kind sir.

[Ahura Mazda]

Well then I will await your efforts. By the way, are you in Bucarest?

[LadyVader]

Why, yes... yes I am. :)
Born an bred. :)

[Tropico]

TAA? i'm talkin secret wars(I), yes it was galactus absorbing his ship, but i said nothin about surfer

The DR. Doom that Petunia used last season was the one with Power CoSmic that he absorbed from the Silver Surfer. The one you're refering to would indeed be too Uber and is not allowed in the DTL. Just trying to avoid a misunderstanding...

[Ahura Mazda]

Didn't that Doom simply absorb the Beyonder who during that series seemed as powerful as 'God'

[XFanTim]

I agree with that assessment. Too uber.
Just to clarify, I'm saying Doom from Secret Wars is too uber, not "stupidly overpowered Rogue". She's not too uber, just stupidly overpowered. One of the things I like about the X-Men is they all have their own unique power, rather than all having superstrength-superspeed-flight, etc. Secondary mutations are bad enough, giving one person every power is just dumb. But too uber? Nah. I mean, Rogue-Thor would trounce "stupid Rogue", and she's not too uber.

[TheCorpulent1]

S.O. Rogue (I like that name, Tim :)) wouldn't be too uber unless every other power absorber/recaller was.

[Guyverjay]

S.O. Rogue (I like that name, Tim :)) wouldn't be too uber unless every other power absorber/recaller was.


I dunno she call on ANY power she has EVER absorbed right?

[X]

Well, she'd have the power of Thor for one...

[Harlekin]

Man, since I had the time to actually write my write-up, I'm getting awfully anxious, as well as hoping I can throw you all for a bit of a doozy. Current standing is 1.832 words, and I got a little bit more to go. The voting hasn't even ended yet...

I love this game already.

[X]

Hahhaa, nice. :up:

[XFanTim]

I dunno she call on ANY power she has EVER absorbed right?
Yeah, technically, but she's never been portrayed as all that powerful. (Not nearly as much so as, say, Rogue-Thor was). I mean, she seems to mostly just do things like use Wolverines claws and Cyclops's optic blasts. If they actually had her use all the powers she ought to have, that might be a different story . . .

[XFanTim]

Wow, only two matches were all that close -- Immortal Guyver's vs. Black's Storm (6 votes), and my match with Hobbit (2 votes).

Are there usually this many blowouts?

[X]

Nope. Things are usually pretty damned close all around.

[Johnny Blaze]

Nope. Things are usually pretty damned close all around.
Well, last season there were usually around 3 or 4 blowouts each week. The rest were all fairly close with a few being decided by a vote or two.

[Harlekin]

Johnny could you explain the whole Conference and Division thing? I'm a little confused.

I got my write-up done, and I just can't wait! *laughs uncontrollably* Matches! Matches!

[XFanTim]

I think it's like the NFL.

Within a given conference:
There will be three division winners. All three will make the playoffs. Also, the next three best teams in the conference (regardless of division) will make the playoffs. The two division leaders with the best records get byes the first week of the playoffs, and the other four play each other, with the one with the best record playing the one with the worst record, etc. The winners of those two games move on to face the teams that got byes. Again, the best plays the worst. The winners of those two games play each other in the conference finals.

Of couse, the same thing happens in the other conference. Finally, the winners of the two conferences play for the DTL Championship.

I'm sure JB will correct me if I've screwed that up.

[Harlekin]

Wow, thanks for that Tim, I get it now. This is definitely a game for the long haul! :up:

[Johnny Blaze]

I think it's like the NFL.

Within a given conference:
There will be three division winners. All three will make the playoffs. Also, the next three best teams in the conference (regardless of division) will make the playoffs. The two division leaders with the best records get byes the first week of the playoffs, and the other four play each other, with the one with the best record playing the one with the worst record, etc. The winners of those two games move on to face the teams that got byes. Again, the best plays the worst. The winners of those two games play each other in the conference finals.

Of couse, the same thing happens in the other conference. Finally, the winners of the two conferences play for the DTL Championship.

I'm sure JB will correct me if I've screwed that up.No, you pretty much summed it up perfectly; the NFL is basically what I based the DTL off of. :up:

[primemover]

Man, since I had the time to actually write my write-up, I'm getting awfully anxious, as well as hoping I can throw you all for a bit of a doozy. Current standing is 1.832 words, and I got a little bit more to go. The voting hasn't even ended yet...

I got my write-up done, and I just can't wait! *laughs uncontrollably* Matches! Matches!

Mikey, change your line-up!!!! ;)

[Harlekin]

Mikey, change your line-up!!!! ;)
:(









I'll kill you Mike.










Not kidding. :mad:

[X]

Hahahaha. :D :up:

[primemover]

Oh blaze, you added the votes up wrong for me and yenaled, it should be 21 to 2, not 20 to 3.

[XFanTim]

No, you pretty much summed it up perfectly; the NFL is basically what I based the DTL off of. :up:
Yeah, the only difference between this and football is that my fantasy football team started the season with eight straight losses! :(

(Won the last 5 to salvage a modicum of pride, but still.)

Thankfully, my DTL players can't go down with injuries.

[XFanTim]

Although, can you imagine how much it would suck if we did it that way?

"Oh, your starting lineup was:
Thor (MU)
Firestorm (Ronnie Raymond) (MU)
Vision (MM)
Hawkeye (MR)
Spoiler (DR) (F)


Yeah, I guess you're boned."

[Johnny Blaze]

Oh blaze, you added the votes up wrong for me and yenaled, it should be 21 to 2, not 20 to 3.
Actually, I cast my vote for yenaled, but, for some odd reason, I wrote your team name down instead. :o

But, since I ****ed up I'll credit you with the vote. :up:

[primemover]

Obviously, subconsiously you know I won that match!!!!

[Johnny Blaze]

Don't worry, I'll make up for it by never voting for you again for the rest of the season. http://www.honda-acura.net/forums/images/smilies/tongue.gif

[primemover]

Hey, don't make me recruit Black Manta and go on a bug-eyed tour of destruction

[Johnny Blaze]

Heh, by all means...recruit away. :D

[Tropico]

Since this is mostly for fun and we've desecrated the other thread enough I'm posting this here. Ok, Mano is an Uber. :D

http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v248/Tropico/pwnt1.jpg
PWNT!!!!!!!!!!!!


http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v248/Tropico/pwnt2.jpg
Like the caption says: OH, SNAP!! (or close to it :p)

http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v248/Tropico/pwnt3.jpg
PWNT!!!!!!!!! By Invisible Kid?!?!? P-W-N-T.

[X]

That's post Zero Hour. He never wrecked a planet. Or beat The Karate Kid. Or destroyer Inertron. Or threw The Persauder around. He was more of a tragic villian, home planet wrecked by chemical weapons and what not.

[Tropico]

Actually the first one IS Pre-Zero Hour where the kids were the SW-6 Legionnaires. :D

[X]

Fah. Pre whatever the hell reboot it was. The real Mano. Not the one that carried around a sword and all that ****. :o :D

[Tropico]

Actually, I'm trying to find the post-boot comics where he gets his ass handed to him by Timber Wolf. Sorta like a pwnt through the ages homage. ;):D

[X]

Post him getting the better of The Persauder,, beating The Karate Kid, wrecking Inertron... Going against The Sun Eater and actually doing good. Hell, he was one of the very few who came out of that unharmed, and people like Validus were involved. Ferro ended up dead. :o

[AnnoyingSilence]

sss

[AnnoyingSilence]

Didn't that Doom simply absorb the Beyonder who during that series seemed as powerful as 'God'that was after he stole galactus' energy

[AnnoyingSilence]

sss

[Tropico]

Post him getting the better of The Persauder,, beating The Karate Kid, wrecking Inertron... Going against The Sun Eater and actually doing good. Hell, he was one of the very few who came out of that unharmed, and people like Validus were involved. Ferro ended up dead. :o

Actually, you're the one that should post them. Don't take my posts the wrong way. I'm not debating his rank, I'm just showing the other end of the spectrum. Between the two of us we're giving a range to the character that not many others are shown as here.

[Ahura Mazda]

this may be a stupid question but is the Blue side of the moon have its own atmosphere and what happens if the city is destroyed.

[Gilrean]

The Blue area of the moon is a crater with the remains of a city in it. The ruins and the crater have a breathable atmosphere. It reach's a few miles above the surface of the crater. (Info form the last time the DTL battled there)

[Ahura Mazda]

Thanks Gilrean. That explains things for me.

[X]

Actually, you're the one that should post them. Don't take my posts the wrong way. I'm not debating his rank, I'm just showing the other end of the spectrum. Between the two of us we're giving a range to the character that not many others are shown as here.

Yeah, no problems. Everything I've ever read with Mano in it is from the 70's though. He had superhuman durability back then too, to some degree anyhow. Obviously not the case with the pics you've been posting. But it's cool regardless.

[Nightwing.]

when are you putting the threads up for the write ups?where would i put mine?im taking over union jacks team.also where do i post the 5 charcters im using?where do i see which characters jewish hobbit is using?this is aimed at x and johnny blaze

[X]

Check it out...

http://superherohype.com/forums/showthread.php?t=125148

[Ahura Mazda]

I am not the type to do this but as drakon has not replied to any messages I have sent him and I prefer in a partnership that both participate. I would like him dropped as my partner. I may ask somebody else because I can foresee moments where I will need them.

[Johnny Blaze]

Ok, let me know when you find someone else Mazda.

As for your questions Nightwing...

The threads for each week's matchups are posted up every Thursday around 1:00 PM EST.

You'd put your writeup in the thread that contains your matchup (either Set 1, 2, 3, or 4).

You post your starting lineup each week in the Transaction thread. You must do this before Wednesday at midnight EST. If you don't, you will be stuck with the same lineup you had the previous week.
Also, if you wait until the last second to post your lineup, your opponent will get one chance to make a change to theirs, provided that they can make it before the week's match threads go up.

You can see JewishHobbit's starters by checking out the DTL Update thread and scrolling down until you see X's post that has everyone's starting lineups.

[primemover]

Two questions for the masses:

1. I need some info on Darkchilde, is she just like Magik, powers, accessories and all, but just evil, or is there some fundemental difference. Also, are her powers magical in any way, like her sword and armor, or just mutant based.

2. I need some more info beyond what was posted a bit earlier on this Blue Side of the Moon, any layouts or anything?

thanks in advance

[X]

Well, I wanted to brush up some on Aza Chorn, so over the past few days I've looked through all of his stand alone stories and some MiracleMan stuff. When talking about what they were capable of, it was said that "They can travel parsecs with a thought". I didn't know what a parsec was, but here's the offical dictionary definition.

A unit of astronomical length based on the distance from Earth at which stellar parallax is one second of arc and equal to 3.258 light-years, 3.086 × 1013 kilometers, or 1.918 × 1013 miles.

That's friggin crazy. One parsec is 3.258 light years... Warpsmith's knock down multiple parsecs (6.400? 9.660?) in picosends. Hard to grip. :o

[Union Jack]

Hi people,me and nightwing have spoken and he has persuaded me to carry on doing the dtl,my write may be up a little later than normal,but before the voting time(hopefully).
nightwing is my brother in law,sohe is gonna try and get into it next time round,he is currently reading my backlot of comics and TPB'S(he's reading batman/predator at the mo,good read).
so i gonna take my team back.
once i'd quit i realised how much i enjoyed writing it too.
had thought about it for a few days.
so i'm back.
hobbit prepare yourself,i'm gonna do more research(hopefully again!)this time.
blaze or X speak to nightwing too just to confirm this.
but i am coming back.
i'm gonna see this thing out.

[The Leaguer]

Well, I wanted to brush up some on Aza Chorn, so over the past few days I've looked through all of his stand alone stories and some MiracleMan stuff. When talking about what they were capable of, it was said that "They can travel parsecs with a thought". I didn't know what a parsec was, but here's the offical dictionary definition.

A unit of astronomical length based on the distance from Earth at which stellar parallax is one second of arc and equal to 3.258 light-years, 3.086 × 1013 kilometers, or 1.918 × 1013 miles.

That's friggin crazy. One parsec is 3.258 light years... Warpsmith's knock down multiple parsecs (6.400? 9.660?) in picosends. Hard to grip. :o

Eh, I did that yesterday.

[Union Jack]

Right my line up for week 2...
Darkseid[DU]
Psylocke[MR]
quick freeze[DM]
Gladiator[MU]
Dark Claw[DR]

[Nightwing.]

Hi people,me and nightwing have spoken and he has persuaded me to carry on doing the dtl,my write may be up a little later than normal,but before the voting time(hopefully).
nightwing is my brother in law,sohe is gonna try and get into it next time round,he is currently reading my backlot of comics and TPB'S(he's reading batman/predator at the mo,good read).
so i gonna take my team back.
once i'd quit i realised how much i enjoyed writing it too.
had thought about it for a few days.
so i'm back.
hobbit prepare yourself,i'm gonna do more research(hopefully again!)this time.
blaze or X speak to nightwing too just to confirm this.
but i am coming back.
i'm gonna see this thing out.

good on ya.im gonna sit on the fence,take it all in and make a great team for next time.

[wiegeabo]

You go Jack. Good to have you back. :D

[X]

He was gone all of 5 minutes. I'm her 24/7, and nothin'. :mad: :o :( :D

[wiegeabo]

I said it once, and I'll say it again
"Perfection needs no acknowledgement." :cool:

[JewishHobbit]

There's X fishin for compliments again ;)

Kiddin X,... just poking fun at ya.

[JewishHobbit]

Okay here's a question... this weeks match takes place on the moon right? Well in this version of it,... could a helecopter be flown if kept at low altitude?

I have this awsome scene planned with one but I just realized it's on the moon and I'm totally bummed. Please tell me it's not to far out there!

[The Leaguer]

A helicopter's flight is based on air. There is no air on the moon. That's why rocket propulsion is used.

[Elijya]

I'm gonna take a wild guess and say...no

[JewishHobbit]

I am so depressed right now. Oh my gosh I was getting mad excited about this idea!!!! Man that so sucks. Hmmm,.. maybe I can find away to put atmosphere on the moon...... yeah, right.

[The Leaguer]

Heh, can you save it until the next week or is it restricted to your opponents team?

[JewishHobbit]

Wait,.... I have an idea on how to make it work.... This might still be salvagable!!!!!

[JewishHobbit]

Heh, can you save it until the next week or is it restricted to your opponents team?

Well it wasn't going to be my helecopter,.. it was Darkclaw's helecopter. I don't think Ultimate Captain America was ever seen with his own Helecopter was he? I know he has a tank,... but not a helecopter.

I guess he's a close to Shield as you get without being Nick Fury so maybe he can use a Shield issued Chopter in a match,.. eh,.. I may be able to carry it to another match. I'll see if I can come up with something else this week.

[Elijya]

lol, you're gonna have em dog fight? that'll be sweet

[LadyVader]

We're fighting on the moon?

...again?

[AnnoyingSilence]

Check it out...

http://superherohype.com/forums/showthread.php?t=125148an if you lose that link, you can always look on my signiture

[AnnoyingSilence]

whats wrong? can't hack it? i'm sure your opponent would love a free win, just ask JB

[primemover]

Any info on this site, I haven't seen much discussed about it, any info would be super duper!

Hobbit, since there is no gravity, you really don't need a device to fly, Darkclaw is part Batman right, have him jury-rig something like compressed air on his gauntlets and boots and use them to fly around!

[XFanTim]

A helicopter's flight is based on air. There is no air on the moon. That's why rocket propulsion is used.
There is air in the Blue Area of the moon. Which is where the fight takes place.

Angel was able to fly on the moon. And he keeps himself aloft by displacing air, same as a helicopter (but he of course uses wings rather than a propeller.)

I don't see why a helicopter couldn't be flown in the Blue Area . . . I just don't know how high the atmosphere extends. If it only goes to the tops of the tallest structures, there might not be much room to maneuver. If it goes higher then that, then maybe.

[AnnoyingSilence]

Any info on this site, I haven't seen much discussed about it, any info would be super duper!

Hobbit, since there is no gravity, you really don't need a device to fly, Darkclaw is part Batman right, have him jury-rig something like compressed air on his gauntlets and boots and use them to fly around!actually there is gravity, ever read the time when x-men an some of the shir went at it for phoenix?

[AnnoyingSilence]

There is air in the Blue Area of the moon. Which is where the fight takes place.

Angel was able to fly on the moon. And he keeps himself aloft by displacing air, same as a helicopter (but he of course uses wings rather than a propeller.)

I don't see why a helicopter couldn't be flown in the Blue Area . . . I just don't know how high the atmosphere extends. If it only goes to the tops of the tallest structures, there might not be much room to maneuver. If it goes higher then that, then maybe.not even a thousand ft. up

[XFanTim]

Yeah, but you don't need a thousand feet to fly a helicopter. If there's, say, 50 feet between the tops of the buildings and the tops of the atmosphere, than I'd say it's doable. Although, I've never flown a helicopter, so what do I know. But I've seen one fly pretty low.

Heck, JH could have the helicopter fly even lower, between buildings. Not something a real helicopter pilot would be likely to attempt, but not unreasonable for a comic book character.

[The Leaguer]

There is air in the Blue Area of the moon. Which is where the fight takes place.

Angel was able to fly on the moon. And he keeps himself aloft by displacing air, same as a helicopter (but he of course uses wings rather than a propeller.)

Oh, duh, I have no clue why I didn't remember we're on the Blue Area. You're right.

[AnnoyingSilence]

Yeah, but you don't need a thousand feet to fly a helicopter. If there's, say, 50 feet between the tops of the buildings and the tops of the atmosphere, than I'd say it's doable. Although, I've never flown a helicopter, so what do I know. But I've seen one fly pretty low.

Heck, JH could have the helicopter fly even lower, between buildings. Not something a real helicopter pilot would be likely to attempt, but not unreasonable for a comic book character.i know, he'll be able to fly it, just won't be able to manuver to much

o an

The New Defenders (Owner: Mr. X)

what is today? thursday... an i wont be able to see his lineup until i get back from work friday at 3am... i think should have more time in between battles... i know no ones gonna agree(kuz your all day walkers) but its really hard for me to do a good write up when the line-ups are do right when the whole thing starts. line-ups should be done be wed at midnight. an no changes after that. some of us can't make last minute changes to our line-ups an are left at a serious disadvantage

[primemover]

actually there is gravity, ever read the time when x-men an some of the shir went at it for phoenix?

ugh, score one point for me, a dumbass point. I meant Low gravity. ick

[Nightwing.]

i know, he'll be able to fly it, just won't be able to manuver to much

o an

The New Defenders (Owner: Mr. X)

what is today? thursday... an i wont be able to see his lineup until i get back from work friday at 3am... i think should have more time in between battles... i know no ones gonna agree(kuz your all day walkers) but its really hard for me to do a good write up when the line-ups are do right when the whole thing starts. line-ups should be done be wed at midnight. an no changes after that. some of us can't make last minute changes to our line-ups an are left at a serious disadvantage

i agree

[AnnoyingSilence]

ugh, score one point for me, a dumbass point. I meant Low gravity. ickwow... but you said no gravity an even with low grav... its still grav that keeps on the ground. an as long as your story is believeable, it don't matter at all

[AnnoyingSilence]

sorry this belongs in trades

[AnnoyingSilence]

i agreewell atleast i'm not whinning(thats what it is when i put my opinion forward :rolleyes: )

[AnnoyingSilence]

i would like to also change out gorilla grodd for quicksilver on this weeks roster

[Harlekin]

Finally got to post my write-up, I was dying to. First one this week too. :D

[Johnny Blaze]

i would like to also change out gorilla grodd for quicksilver on this weeks roster
Need to do it in the Transaction thread.

[X]

Isn't it too late for that anyhow?

[Nightwing.]

two questions.1) is phoenix allowed in dtl 2)is superman from rock of ages (electric superman) allowed in dtl?

[TheCorpulent1]

1) No and 2) yes.

[Nightwing.]

1) No and 2) yes.

so electric superman is?ok right why isnt phoenix and is electric superman affected by the green stuff?

[TheCorpulent1]

Phoenix is too powerful. She can destroy solar systems.

I don't know if Electric Supes is affected by Kryptonite.

[Nightwing.]

Phoenix is too powerful. She can destroy solar systems.

I don't know if Electric Supes is affected by Kryptonite.

do you know of any strong telepathic females who arent in anyones team?

[The Leaguer]

I don't know if Electric Supes is affected by Kryptonite.

He's not.

[The Leaguer]

do you know of any strong telepathic females who arent in anyones team?

You could go with a female White Martian. Strong telepaths, pretty much exactly the same powers as Martian Manhunter. And they're vicious SOB's.

[The Leaguer]

I'm looking for info on Shanzar and Anarky, but having a relatively tough time. Can someone give me a hand?

[Nightwing.]

I'm looking for info on Shanzar and Anarky, but having a relatively tough time. Can someone give me a hand?

does this help?

www.marvunapp.com/Appendix2/shazanastrange.htm (http://www.marvunapp.com/Appendix2/shazanastrange.htm)

[The Leaguer]

That isn't he character weigeabo has, but I did find Shanzar's bio on that page. Thanks, though. :up:

[Nightwing.]

I'm looking for info on Shanzar and Anarky, but having a relatively tough time. Can someone give me a hand?

and this as well

www.solohq.com/Spirit/Books/110.shtml (http://www.solohq.com/Spirit/Books/110.shtml)

[The Leaguer]

Better than nothing, thanks again. :up:

[Nightwing.]

That isn't he character weigeabo has, but I did find Shanzar's bio on that page. Thanks, though. :up:

whats the characters name that your after?are you after their powers/abilities or just who they know/what they do?im and ill see what i can whip up for ya.

[The Leaguer]

It was Shanzar, but I already found a great bio that has everything I need, but thanks for the offer.

[Johnny Blaze]

Isn't it too late for that anyhow?
I think he was talking about dropping Grodd and picking up Quicksilver.

[Johnny Blaze]

Quick question: Is New Attilan in or outside the Blue Area?

[The Leaguer]

Another question: is the Blue Area a city, or rocky craters, or what?

[X]

Quick question: Is New Attilan in or outside the Blue Area?

Inside...

Another question: is the Blue Area a city, or rocky craters, or what?

An ancient city, touched up by The Inhumans I believe.

[TheCorpulent1]

Is Attilan there presently, or are they back on Earth in the Himalayas or wherever?

[Franklin Richards]

Attilan stands on the remains of an old kree civilization in the Blue Area... there is also the entrance to Uatu's Citidel. It's invisible though and on the moony terrain of the Blue Area. Atmosphere exist inside the giant crater and a little above the top of the crater. It's all Lunar terrain after that.

So in a nutshell, ya got Attilan, Kree Ruins where Phoenix bit it, Underground caverns where Maximus' goons were working, Underground Lunar Rivers that Triton discovered, Lunar terrain that has atmosphere because of the Blue Area effect, and the invisible entrance to The Watcher's Citadel which may or may not play into your story. Your on your own when it comes to the geography of that place. :D


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[wiegeabo]

Leaguer, when I get home tonight I'll post the links to Anarky and Shanzar. I've got them bookmarked, which is why you'll have to wait until tonight.

[X]

http://www.praxeology.net/anarky.htm

[The Leaguer]

I found a Shanzar bio, but I'm still somewhat at a loss as to Anarky. Any info would be greatly appreciated. Waiting is no problem, whenever you get a chance is fine. Thanks in advance.

[Nightwing.]

I found a Shanzar bio, but I'm still somewhat at a loss as to Anarky. Any info would be greatly appreciated. Waiting is no problem, whenever you get a chance is fine. Thanks in advance.

try this.is this the right person?

http://www.marvunapp.com/Appendix/anarchyu.htm

[The Leaguer]

http://www.praxeology.net/anarky.htm

Thanks, but I already understand the character, I just wanted to get a handle on how he operates and abilities and the like.

[wiegeabo]

Found the page on DC's Anarky.

http://www.starnet-database.com/dbase_deo/profiles/anarky/anarky.html

[The Leaguer]

Awesome, thanks.

[TheCorpulent1]

Attilan stands on the remains of an old kree civilization in the Blue Area... there is also the entrance to Uatu's Citidel. It's invisible though and on the moony terrain of the Blue Area. Atmosphere exist inside the giant crater and a little above the top of the crater. It's all Lunar terrain after that.

So in a nutshell, ya got Attilan, Kree Ruins where Phoenix bit it, Underground caverns where Maximus' goons were working, Underground Lunar Rivers that Triton discovered, Lunar terrain that has atmosphere because of the Blue Area effect, and the invisible entrance to The Watcher's Citadel which may or may not play into your story. Your on your own when it comes to the geography of that place. :D

:thing: :doom: :thing:
Sweet, thanks. I forgot about the Watcher's base too...

[JewishHobbit]

Here's a question,... how much beating can Darkseid take? Exactly how much does it take to cause him pain? Can he feel a physical assault well? Just curious as I want my write up to be accurate.

[wiegeabo]

Darkseid can take an awesome beating, laugh it off, and still give someone else a beat down. Supes has absolutely pounded on him before, and Darkseid's still come back to give him a hard time.

He can be hurt, but it usually takes a massive amount of energy or pounding.

Note that in Superman Vs. Doomsday, Doomsday was sent to Apokalypse, and Darkseid actually seemed afraid (or as close as he gets to being scared. I can't remember clearly, but I think he was more concerned about the damage Doomsday would do to his planet, then afraid of being injured). He was sure he couldn't take Doomsday out, that he was an unstoppable creature.

[wiegeabo]

Now that I'm home, he's the links for Shanzar and Anarky

http://www.marvunapp.com/Appendix/shanzars.htm

http://www.starnet-database.com/dbase_deo/profiles/anarky/anarky.html

[The Leaguer]

Much thanks. :up:

[JewishHobbit]

Gotchya. Thanks,.. that give me an idea.

[Franklin Richards]

I need a new Yancy Street Gang team marker like last year. Who the heck made those? JB? I need a new one mailed to me. This discussion thread flies by to fast. :D



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[The Leaguer]

JH made them.

[Franklin Richards]

Ahhh.. the Hairfoot. Sorry JH. Could I get a new marker? New season and all. You know me. I'm so stubborn that you know my lineup is prolly final. :D

I don't have a good scan of Modulus though. Could anyone with a scanner and those issues of FF get a good shot of him online somewhere?


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[AnnoyingSilence]

could someone tell me who takion is and his power? an whats different about the Absorbing man from Earth x?

[Nightwing.]

does anyone know of any powerful changlings and chameleons?

[AnnoyingSilence]

morph(exiles) isn't really powerful, but OMGosh hes hard to kill an intertain:D
deadman is already taken, an i'd tell you about a certain someone else if i wasn't gonna pick'm up next week

[JewishHobbit]

Ahhh.. the Hairfoot. Sorry JH. Could I get a new marker? New season and all. You know me. I'm so stubborn that you know my lineup is prolly final. :D

I don't have a good scan of Modulus though. Could anyone with a scanner and those issues of FF get a good shot of him online somewhere?


:thing: :doom: :thing:

No problem. I still have to fix X's and then I have to do AS's and Mikey's but I'll put you on the list. But like I told Mikey it won't be until at least Saturday as I'm busy today.

[XFanTim]

No problem. I still have to fix X's and then I have to do AS's and Mikey's but I'll put you on the list. But like I told Mikey it won't be until at least Saturday as I'm busy today.
You can put me on the list too, please. But there's no rush.

[Ahura Mazda]

If you could do one for me that would be great to. But of course, take your time because there is no rush here.

[Harlekin]

This isn't meant to offend you AS, but I just wanted to point out a few things I have problems with, when it concerns you're write-up.

- You're an adult, right? Born and bred American? That means you know basic English, the typos and stuff are just really annoying.
- Why not just post the strategy at the end, the stars are more distracting than anything, and are a nuisance.
- All caps on AS' dialogue?
- The way I interpret it, you're just a lazy sonuva***** that isn't bothering to write their characters according to their personalities, and writing it off as a continious control by Stryfe. I mean, what's the entire point if you don't write the Flash, like the Flash, if you just want a bloodthirsty killer? Get the Reverse-Flash for that, or just pick up an entire team of baddies.
- I'm not so much annoyed by Forge creating all kinds of things, but flight rings, teleport devices, Force Gauntlets, and all kinds of kooky stuff. Why not just let the characters fight on mostly their own merits?

[Johnny Blaze]

This isn't meant to offend you AS, but I just wanted to point out a few things I have problems with, when it concerns you're write-up.

- You're an adult, right? Born and bred American? That means you know basic English, the typos and stuff are just really annoying.
- Why not just post the strategy at the end, the stars are more distracting than anything, and are a nuisance.
- All caps on AS' dialogue?
- The way I interpret it, you're just a lazy sonuva***** that isn't bothering to write their characters according to their personalities, and writing it off as a continious control by Stryfe. I mean, what's the entire point if you don't write the Flash, like the Flash, if you just want a bloodthirsty killer? Get the Reverse-Flash for that, or just pick up an entire team of baddies.
- I'm not so much annoyed by Forge creating all kinds of things, but flight rings, teleport devices, Force Gauntlets, and all kinds of kooky stuff. Why not just let the characters fight on mostly their own merits? Umm...wouldn't it have been better to post this in the thread with his matchup in it? :confused:

[Harlekin]

I figured it was better for general discussion, hopefully also maybe starting a bit of a discussion around write-ups, and the effort put into them. I dunno, it seemed to fit the Discussion thread.

[X]

People like AS are the reason I'm contemplating dropping out of the DTL. He compared The Karate Kid to a normal human, and he spelt ****ing Aquarian's name wrong. Right in the first post there buddy.

[Harlekin]

People like AS are the reason I'm contemplating dropping out of the DTL. He compared The Karate Kid to a normal human, and he spelt ****ing Aquarian's name wrong. Right in the first post there buddy.
No need to quit, and I'm not suggesting AS quit either, like I said, no offense, and I understand we all have lives here, but I just expect at least above average effort from people of which English is a native language. Not to sound like a prick, but I'm 16 and English is my second language, and I pretty much kick AS' ass in the language department when it comes to these write-ups.

I don't much care about how you write in posts, but if any of you expect me to read through something that has a tendency to get long, I like to be able to read it.

[mikeyh89]

ok i will agree about AS on the fact that he has bad grammar but i wont judge him because i will be the first to admit, that my writeups SUCK when figuring out characters powers and stuff, so i just try to make good fight scenes using hadn to hand combat because i dont know all of the characters powers, so i cant say im the best at writeups either

[XFanTim]

There's bad grammar and bad grammar. I wouldn't expect everyone on here to know or care about when to use the subjunctive mood (for example), but I think everyone could follow a few basic rules to make it easier for us to read eachother's writing.

(1) Start every sentence with a capital letter.
(2) End every sentence with a period, question mark, or exclamation point.
(3) Don't type in all caps.
(4) If you're writing something really long, try splitting it into a few paragraphs
(5) Run your long posts through a spell-checker (at least the writeups for matches).
(6) Proofread. (Really, it's not hard to read through every post 1 time before you post it. You may still overlook some mistakes, but at least you won't be saying things that are completely unintelligible.)

Seriously, not even making an effort to use punctuation or to check your work for mistakes is just incredibly rude. And none of these things I've suggested above require any extensive knowledge of the English language.

[TheCorpulent1]

I love the subjunctive mood, particularly in Latin. :up:

I'm a grammar dork. :(

[Johnny Blaze]

I'm a grammar dork. :( At least you admit to it. :D :up:

[TheCorpulent1]

I'm an English major so it's cool.

[primemover]

Harlekin, usually I'd bag on you for bagging on others works, but you are talking about AS, so have at it!

[JewishHobbit]

I'm making Mikey's banner and he's not on to answer,... so I was wondering if someone could tell me about Mano or better yet,.. post pics of him.

[mikeyh89]

i just replied

sorry i was out all night, big high school basketball game!

i replied and that pic is the only one i have of him! sorry

thanks i cant wait to see it! :)

[JewishHobbit]

Okey people,.. here's a fun DTL topic to discuss. Do you have someone that is a personal goal to beat in someway this season? Is there someone specific that you are just determined to have a better record than,.. or to make it further,.. or to just flat out beat in a match? Is it just me or do you guys have your own little "targets" as well?

For me my main target this season is Union Jack. I just want to beat him in one match as last season I faced him twice and he beat me both times. So my goal is to beat him at least once this season (and hopefully this will be the week).

Other than Jack I think my other two targets would be Corp and X, because of how well they did last season. Corp because he was the only "giant" I didn't slay last season. So I think it'd be fun to take him out. And X because though he's one of teh best in this thing I was able to beat him twice last season and I want to try to continue to keep that record up.

Other than that I've set a goal for myself not necessarilly to win every match (thankfully being that I lost my first one) but to make it further than last season,... which means my goals is to make it to the final championship. But then I suppose that's the goal of us all isn't it?

[The Leaguer]

All I have to say is: week 6. :mad:

[LadyVader]

I just want to have fun and hopefully not embarass myself.
:)