Dream Team League (Discussion)

[TheCorpulent1]

Not unless JH let him. I guess he could attempt to take the CPB power and be shocked and bewildered to find that he can't.

[JewishHobbit]

I don't think I'll be using him this week anyway,.. I just want to make sure I wasn't missing an obvious advantage or anything

[TheCorpulent1]

Nah. Biggest impact I could see Oa having on Sinestro is a vague hatred of the place, considering it's where he was killed like twice.

Anybody ever browse through the DC site's Secret Files section? DC's characters are extremely short, for the most part. Robin, who should be a junior or senior in high school, is only 5'5" and Jade, who's a full-grown woman built like a supermodel, is only 5'2". On the other hand, Batgirl, the spritely Asian girl, is 5'5"! Superboy's only 5'7" despite the fact that he towers over the other Teen Titans. Weird stuff. I'm gonna start disregarding that and going with my gut, which tells me that Batgirl is shorter than Robin, Superboy is at least 6' tall by now, and Alan Scott is taller than any other Green Lantern at around 6'3". 'Cause Alan rocks.

[Roughneck]

You know what I don't understand about the DTL? It's the DREAM TEAM League. Well My Dream team doesn't have any DC guys on it. I underand the rule for ONly 2 Ubers and whatnot. I even like the rule about having a female on the team. But I think that if this is really the Dream Team league then it wouldn't matter if I had all Marvel people, or even some Image or Crossgen. I don't see the point of using the word Dream when such limits are put onto the teams. I am sure that this has been addressed before, but I just wanted to add a couple of my cents in there.

[XFanTim]

Um . . . it's just a name? And it's just called that because the DTL grew out of the Dream Team Tournament.

You aren't seriously suggesting we change the rules just because of the name, right? Why not just change the name? Or better yet, why not just leave the name as it is, because it's just a name?

[Ahura Mazda]

Um . . . it's just a name? And it's just called that because the DTL grew out of the Dream Team Tournament.

You aren't seriously suggesting we change the rules just because of the name, right? Why not just change the name? Or better yet, why not just leave the name as it is, because it's just a name?


^^ :up: :D

Well said!

[Johnny Blaze]

Yeah, those rules aren't going to be changed anytime soon.

As for adding characters from other companies, like Dark Horse and Crossgen, it's already been brought up twice, and voted down by the majority each time.

[wiegeabo]

I've glanced at the proposed list of characters banned from next season, and there are a couple of characters listed that were used in season one. I think the season one bar was just right, and if a character was usable in that season, then they should be fine for season three.

[primemover]

Yikes, more chance for discussion to complicate things, lets just go by the list.

If this is going to work there needs to be one sole arbiter of all that is 'too uber', let that be Blaze, and let his word stand no questions asked, or we will continue on this rollercoaster forever.

[TheCorpulent1]

I don't think we should cut off discussion altogether. So long as we've got it all sorted out by the start of season 3, it should be fine to discuss things.

[primemover]

Ok, time for some ranking fun!

One of my favorite stories is the limited series Squadron Supreme, and going through some of their characters I noticed a few that might be pretty useful.

Inertia (http://www.classicmarvel.com/cast/inertia.htm) has pretty much control over anything moving, and can absorb kinetic energy and redirect it. In the story she steals the energy from Hyperions punches, stores it and then delivers that to Power Princesses jaw. I guess she can also use that power to make force fields and disrupt machinery. I guess she needs to be looking at something to do anything, as she was taken from behind by Dr. Spectrum.

Foxfire (http://www.classicmarvel.com/cast/foxfire.htm) can disintegrate things using some light from her hands. In the story she made a building fall apart(although it looked like that took a bit of time), broke through things binding her, and killed Nighthawk by stopping his heart. Again, she was taken out from behind by Mink.

Arcanna (http://www.classicmarvel.com/cast/arcanna.htm) is a magician with illusion capabilities, elemental control and force fields for magic and psi attacks.

The Skrullian Skymaster (http://www.classicmarvel.com/cast/squadronskrull.htm) is basically the Super-Skrull, just weaker.

Other cool ones are Moonglow (http://www.classicmarvel.com/cast/moonglow.htm)(magician type) and Lamprey (http://www.classicmarvel.com/cast/lamprey.htm)(power stealer/duplicator)

My guesses would be:

Inertia - Regular, maybe a Medium
Foxfire - Regular
Arcanna - Medium
The Skrullian Skymaster - Medium
Moonglow - Medium
Lamprey - Uber

[TheCorpulent1]

Inertia's a middleweight. She's basically a DC speedster without the ability to actually move fast, right?

I don't know about the rest.

[primemover]

I wonder though, if she can steal kinetic energy and give it to others, maybe she can give it to herself.

[TheCorpulent1]

Says on the site that she had to release it. But those RPG sites are kind of weird and sometimes unreliable, so I don't know.

[primemover]

Imagine the kinetic bolts she could unleash if she draws energy from a Flash, she'd knock King Thor on his ass!

[TheCorpulent1]

Yeah, although he'd promptly get back up unharmed and blast her with some energy. :p

[primemover]

Which she would re-direct back towards him! So the question is, can King Thor hurt himself?!?

[Tropico]

Ok, time for some ranking fun!

Inertia (http://www.classicmarvel.com/cast/inertia.htm) she was taken from behind by Dr. Spectrum.


Really?!! :o

[primemover]

Ooh, I should have made a funny, and called him Dr. Speculum!!!

[XFanTim]

I've glanced at the proposed list of characters banned from next season, and there are a couple of characters listed that were used in season one. I think the season one bar was just right, and if a character was usable in that season, then they should be fine for season three.
So Composite Man should still be allowed? 'Cause hey, I don't mind.

[TheCorpulent1]

I'm guessing he meant with the exception of characters who obviously shouldn't have been allowed in season one and got this whole too-uber ball rolling. :p

[The Leaguer]

I'm guessing he meant with the exception of characters who obviously shouldn't have been allowed in season one and got this whole too-uber ball rolling. :p

Roger that.

[Tropico]

Seconded. The motion carries. Composite Man is banned effective immediately. :mad:

[XFanTim]

Yeah, I didn't think anyone would seriously be claiming Composite Man should be allowed if all those others have to go. (Although I can dream . . . ) But in that case, who was wiegeabo referring to? Surely the Fury should also be gone, and I thought most of thoses other were new additions. Does he mean Moondragon, or who?

[The Leaguer]

Peace:

http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v327/TheLeaguer/Manips/Composite-Hitler.jpg

[TheCorpulent1]

Which she would re-direct back towards him! So the question is, can King Thor hurt himself?!?
She can redirect all kinds of energy, not just kinetic energy? Because I'm talking a blast of magic energy or the Odinpower here.

[primemover]

Well, anything that has matter and is moving I would imagine she can muck with, but magic energy I would probably classify as something else, but still, something is moving somewhere when he attacks, so I don't really know.

[Tropico]

Yeah, I didn't think anyone would seriously be claiming Composite Man should be allowed if all those others have to go. (Although I can dream . . . ) But in that case, who was wiegeabo referring to? Surely the Fury should also be gone, and I thought most of thoses other were new additions. Does he mean Moondragon, or who?

The Fury and C-Man were what started it all, they should be out of the DTL next season. People felt then the same way they feel about the Composite Man now, until the Composite Man came in. As for Moondragon...I pegged her as an Uber because of her RPG stats from the get go and she didn't have the Mind Gem. Later on X suggested that I should have her with the Mind Gem since she was already an Uber and she wouldn't be shifting ranks like Adam Warlock (Reg before there was the Med category) and the Soul Gem (Uber).

I had asked during the big lowering of the bar discussion and was told that she was legal without the Mind Gem. If it comes down to her being too Uber even then, I'll give her up. No prob! ;):D

[wiegeabo]

Yeah, I didn't think anyone would seriously be claiming Composite Man should be allowed if all those others have to go. (Although I can dream . . . ) But in that case, who was wiegeabo referring to? Surely the Fury should also be gone, and I thought most of thoses other were new additions. Does he mean Moondragon, or who?


Actually, I was talking about C-Man and Fury (although, now that I've thought about it, maybe not Fury so much, but eh, why not).

I wasn't too thrilled with their introduction last season, but with time, I've mellowed somewhat. They can be beaten (go JH!), they just require a lot of inventiveness (maybe a lot more that a lot with regards to Fury). I've got a couple of ideas if I get to face them. But if they make it into the next season, they would be just barely squeezing in under the bar (and would probably be at the top of the heap).

[TheCorpulent1]

C-Man absolutely is not under the uber bar for season 1. He should never have been allowed, and I don't remember the debate over it back then, but I can't for the life of me figure out how he was allowed in the first place. Even with the raised uber bar, C-Man is still near the top.

[Roughneck]

Um . . . it's just a name? And it's just called that because the DTL grew out of the Dream Team Tournament.

You aren't seriously suggesting we change the rules just because of the name, right? Why not just change the name? Or better yet, why not just leave the name as it is, because it's just a name?


All I was really saying was take out the company limits, If someone wants 5 marvel folk or 5 DC folk on thier team for a week, let them.

[AnnoyingSilence]

And I want some ice cream, and a candy bar, and a pony, and some TPB's, and a new computer, uh....magic powers, and a cool cape. :hyper:uh-uh, me too me too

[Ahura Mazda]

Following Gilrean's post in the battle thread and my reply to her, I would like to say that I am more then willing to drop out if I or my partner become an excuse for people to drop out or not do write ups. If we cause too much offense, then the only solution is for us or at least me to leave this thing.

I am willing to debate, argue and I try not to make it too personal if I ever do make it personal. I do my best to remain polite. However, I do not enjoy becoming an excuse for others based on a few posts.

I will follow the greater consensus on this one so if a majority of you wish me out, I will leave. I will also take no offense. Just let me know.

Thank you.

[LadyVader]

This whole thing has been blown way out of proportion.

[Ahura Mazda]

This whole thing has been blown way out of proportion.


I am blowing it out of proportion because I am generally a very accepting guy but there are certain things that get me very irate on principle. I apologise but that is the way I am. I have broken off real life freindships because of one small thing at times when it went completely against my principles.

Now I know that we are no where in the same ballpark (to use a baseball expression in honor of the start of the new season in the US), but I will stand up and say something when I do not agree with it. However, I try not to be offensive. That said if everybody was to have the same reaction as Gilrean this week, then it would be best that I no longer be a part of it because what would be the fun to know that in every match we were a part of, the opponent could decide not to write solely based on the argument we had with Leaguer last week.

[Tropico]

There's nothing wrong with debating with your opponent on your set. There's also nothing wrong with debating with any of the other owners that might bring up a point when they vote. What is wrong is letting things get out of hand or resorting to insults when you disagree with what is being said. Furthermore, no one in here has to explain their votes, it's their right to vote however they choose to do.

Ahura, I think it's a bit early to say that the other DTL'ers will not want to do a write up against your shared team. It's also early to say that the other DTL'ers won't want to do a write up if Guyverjay is the one "in charge" that week. Even with all of the dust that was raised after the battle in other threads and involving other people that were not in the match, your shared team was NOT suspended. I think that speaks more to the sentiment if your shared team should stay or not.

BTW, you say that it's unfair for Gilrean to place "blame" on you guys for not doing her write up; you're doing the same in a later post. It's a little disconcerting.:confused:

[Gilrean]

See this is why I've never really gotten involved with other, simular issue's within the DTL.
And I'd like to apologize for making this particular one re-appear. I understand why the whole 'blame' for not doing a write-up has happened but as I stated I felt I needed to explaine why I wasn't doing one.

I hadn't even thought that The Immortal Guyvers should be asked to leave the DTL as my reasons for not fully competeing in week 13 where mine alone.

I personally don't want the DTL treads filled with negative posts, as I've found it to be a good thing to be apart of.

I wont be posting anything else in relation to this issue as I think it can be dealt with by other means.

[Harlekin]

Hell no you're leaving. Our rematch is coming up and I'm going to kick your butt.



Yeah, your blown out of proportion butt.

[Ahura Mazda]

BTW, you say that it's unfair for Gilrean to place "blame" on you guys for not doing her write up; you're doing the same in a later post. It's a little disconcerting.:confused:

No, I did attempt to do a write up and I have posted it, it just felt a little pointless, that is all.

I just am having a hard time because I did not believe I directly insulted somebody by calling them names and such. The one offensive thing I stated was I beleived there was bias for reasons I will not go into here but I did apologise.

In any case, as Gilrean suggested I am taking this to the PM forum and have enterred into discussions directly with her.

Thank you for your comments. :up:

And Harlekin, if I am here I will look forward to it :up: :D

[Tropico]

God, I LOVE this place!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! :D:D:D:D:D

http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v248/Tropico/tnt_logo.jpg

[Ahura Mazda]

God, I LOVE this place!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! :D:D:D:D:D

http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v248/Tropico/tnt_logo.jpg


You just need the Dallas or Dynasty theme in the background and then you really have something there

:D

[Guyverjay]

C-Man absolutely is not under the uber bar for season 1. He should never have been allowed, and I don't remember the debate over it back then, but I can't for the life of me figure out how he was allowed in the first place. Even with the raised uber bar, C-Man is still near the top.


Bah No one kicked up a stink over him at all, you know WHY?

Because JB had AMAZO first:o

No more finger pointing at the C-man dammit:mad:

[TheCorpulent1]

Yeah, I don't remember why I didn't care about C-Man when he first came in. I argued about the Fury with X for a while on like 3 separate occasions, though.

[Guyverjay]

Another reason why noone cared is because he was a nobody character that noone had even heard of. I changed that really quickly

[TheCorpulent1]

Yeah, by infuriating everyone who came across him. :D

[The Leaguer]

God, I LOVE this place!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! :D:D:D:D:D

http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v248/Tropico/tnt_logo.jpg

Hahahahahahahahahahaha. Well done! :up:

[Tropico]

Thanks, glad you likes. :up:

[AnnoyingSilence]

Um . . . it's just a name? And it's just called that because the DTL grew out of the Dream Team Tournament.

You aren't seriously suggesting we change the rules just because of the name, right? Why not just change the name? Or better yet, why not just leave the name as it is, because it's just a name?Was that a valid arguement????

No... this is.

Yo, Naner, how are you going to get to like the game if you don't participate in it?

[a couple months ago]Naner: Hmmmm, that league sounds fun, I'll join and quit a week later bcause I can't handle a challenge[/a couple months ago]

Well ya know Heman, I hadn't a clue as to anything about comics until I joined this thing in June. I finallly started reading in mid august(when playoffs were getting started for last season.).

You people give up too easily... You don't have X breathin down your butthole exit lookin for mistake. I was his Favorite!!! I was temperarily banned at a time because me and X arguing. What ever happen to having fun? You know, when there weren't so many people and the uber were alittle less... uber.

Don't stay in the league if you not going to atleast try. Grow some nuts, get in here and say "I quit". Let the owners appreciate some of the good characters out there.

[AnnoyingSilence]

How more diverse can you get in a debate?

I just laid ground down for all the arguements going around

Everything said up there was a viewed oppinionation of what is wrong with the DTL... Btw, Henaner thinks "C-man Hilter" was a great ruler...

[AnnoyingSilence]

I quit, actually no, i'll stay in just to see what next season is like

[AnnoyingSilence]

Well, I'm just ready for my opponent to tell me his line up. Mine is

Devistating Silence

MountJoy(MM): 1 (http://www.uncannyxmen.net/db/characters/showquestion.asp?fldAuto=734)
Gorilla Grodd(DM): 1 (http://www.classicmarvel.com/cast/gorillagrodd.htm) 2 (http://www.geocities.com/TimesSquare/Maze/8681/strength.html) 3 (http://spider-bob.com/villains/dc/GorillaGrodd.htm)
QuickSilver(MR): 1 (http://www.classicmarvel.com/cast/quicksilver.htm) 2 (http://www.uncannyxmen.net/db/characters/showquestion.asp?fldAuto=844) 3 (http://www.marveldirectory.com/individuals/q/quicksilver.htm)
Forge(MR): 1 (http://www.uncannyxmen.net/db/characters/showquestion.asp?fldAuto=473) 2 (http://www.classicmarvel.com/cast/forge.htm) 3 (http://www.marveldirectory.com/individuals/f/forge.htm)
Shimmer(DRF): 1 (http://images.google.com/imgres?imgurl=http://www.titanstower.com/assets/whos%2520who/fearsome5/drlighthead.jpg&imgrefurl=http://www.titanstower.com/source/whoswho/00meeting80s.html&h=90&w=90&sz=4&tbnid=Ref4ORczvBIJ:&tbnh=74&tbnw=74&start=3&prev=/images%3Fq%3Dfearsome%2Bfive%2Bpsimon%26hl%3Den%26 lr%3D) 2 (http://www.angelfire.com/ar/hellUSA/Shimmer.html)

any questions, PM me

I already have my Pre-Battle done for:D

[AnnoyingSilence]

hehehe, you just missed my pre-battle:D

i posted it here to preview it:D

[Tropico]

Since we're supposed to let the weekly battle threads die...

No really I have no idea what he's talking about:o

The edited pics you used last season:
http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v248/Tropico/amazoz.jpg

The unedited pics from the Elseworlds "The Nail":
http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v248/Tropico/real.jpg

[Guyverjay]

Yeah?:confused:

Still don't know what you're getting it:(

Btw you SAVED that pic?

[The Leaguer]

Btw you SAVED that pic?

He didn't have to: they're still posted in whatever match you originally posted them in.

[Guyverjay]

Oh I thought I'd lost it:D

[Tropico]

Yeah?:confused:

Still don't know what you're getting it:(
Forget it.:(

Btw you SAVED that pic?

Yeah, just now. I got it from the DTL "archives". Call me paranoid. :D:up:

[Tropico]

He didn't have to: they're still posted in whatever match you originally posted them in.

Leag, bust out the "Shenanigans" pic.:mad:

[The Leaguer]

http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v327/TheLeaguer/Manips/Crisis.jpg

[Tropico]

Hahahaha, that always gets me; just like the protagonist bumping his head as he comes down the stairs in the Hitchiker Guide to the Galaxy trailer. :D

[wiegeabo]

Magic numbers updated in Update thread.

[TheCorpulent1]

I gotta say, I don't really see how Ollie's knowing about that would really matter either. Zeitgeist, as far as Ollie's concerned, wouldn't be there even if he were standing right in front of him with all his matter fully coalesced on the same plane as Ollie, if I understand his powers right.

[Harlekin]

http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v327/TheLeaguer/Manips/Crisis.jpg
Why does it look like Supergirl just woke up and is yawning?

[Tropico]

I gotta say, I don't really see how Ollie's knowing about that would really matter either. Zeitgeist, as far as Ollie's concerned, wouldn't be there even if he were standing right in front of him with all his matter fully coalesced on the same plane as Ollie, if I understand his powers right.

Well, since he's "an unknown quantity, the most sensible thing to do is to teleport him away, eliminate him from the board from the start" according to some people. :mad: So, he won't even get that chance. http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v248/Tropico/1abc91.jpg

[TheCorpulent1]

Sound strategy. Unfortunately, I doubt you could teleport Zeitgeist either, since he's not really there. :p

[XFanTim]

Um, who's going to teleport him away? Not Ollie, since he wouldn't even be able to tell that Zeitgeist was standing there.

[Tropico]

Why waste tactics in a pointless discussion? The character isn't yours, and I'm not going up against him so...I'll keep it to myself.

[Guyverjay]

You going to use The Amazo andriod against me?

Its not recommended:o

[primemover]

Just an idea, it might be cool for those of us who have characters that will be banned next season, that we can add a special roster position so we can recruit now to get characters we are afraid might get taken before they can clear their roster of the banned character because they want to use that character in this seasons playoffs.

For instance, since I am losing Xavier Juggernaut next season, I will need to replace him, a task for which I am searching now. All of my other positions are solid, so if I come up with a character I really want, or if a character I want becomes available, as a replacement for XavJug, I can't do anything about it until after this season ends, and in that time somebody else might come and steal that character.

So it'd be cool to make an additional roster position, that will replace the XavJug roster position when the season ends, so I can pick a character before the season ends, and secure that character. So then those banned characters would have a special position on the current rosters, and attached to them would be their season ending replacement character.

This could replace the need for a draft.

What do you all think?

[The Leaguer]

Or...

After the championship rosters become locked in, each team in the championship is given two rosters: one line-up with their championship characters, including those ruled too-uber for season three, and a new line-up, without the too-uber characters.

Say, for instance, I made it to the championships. I would have two teams:

Team A: My championship team. This team would include my present line-up, which includes Queen of Fables, who will be ruled too-uber next season. This would be permanent throughout the championships.

Team B: My season 3 team. This would be my present team, with the exception of Queen of Fables. I could make all the changes to team B I want, it just won't affect my championship team. That way I (and other people with too-ubers) would be able to keep up with the trading-frenzy and still maintain their championship teams. This would also eliminate any character reservation, which would be unfair for other teams.

Hopefull you guys know what I'm talking about. Of course, for this idea to work, teams would have to be locked-in immediately.

[primemover]

Pretty close to what I am recommending, it really depends on when rosters are locked. I would like the ability to recruit in the place of my tubers asap and not wait until whenever rosters are locked.

[Tropico]

This would also eliminate any character reservation, which would be unfair for other teams.

It seems what you guys are proposing is really character reservation under the guise of an alternate team. You want to have your cake and eat it too. This might solve the problem for current players, but would suck for any possible new recruits. But what the heck, I'm just a guy that's barely in the wildcard division, I'll let the other people for whom it's more critical speak up.

[The Leaguer]

My proposal isn't what I want, it was just a suggestion. I don't have a problem letting non-championship teams have first pick of characters. One way of looking at that is giving those non-championship teams with active owners a chance to even-out the playing field.

[primemover]

Yes it's character reservation, for those who are losing characters due to new rules next season. It's kind of a tit for tat thing. Right now people who need to keep their tuber players for the playoffs of this season are basically unable to do any trading for next season, without thrashing their team this year and hindering their playoff chances.

I am not talking about a fully alternate team, let us just be allowed to trade those specific posisitions that are being held up by characters that will be illegal in season 3. Once this season stops, that trade is enacted.

Without a totally new draft, new recruits are basically screwed either way, what I am proposing would not change a thing in reference to that. And as for teams who don't make it to the playoffs, they have tons of time to trade and trade all they want, since you know, they aren't in the playoffs and arent under any roster lock.

[Tropico]

If I remember how it went correctly, the lock is appllied to ALL owners.

[primemover]

when does the lock happen?

[TheCorpulent1]

After the last match of the regular season, before the playoffs start.

[The Leaguer]

I thought it was right before the last match?

[TheCorpulent1]

Maybe, I usually don't really know what I'm talking about. I just show up to spread the seeds of dissension.

[primemover]

We've been King Thor'd!

[AnnoyingSilence]

We've been King Thor'd!.... :cool:

[XFanTim]

I don't know why we'd be worried about what's fair for new recruits . . . with the league contracting from 24 to 16, there may not even be any.

[Johnny Blaze]

No, there won't be any reserve spots on teams or what not.
And all trading and switching of characters will be locked down in a week or so.

As for the contraction...it looks like it will be cut down to 16 teams what with the 5 teams we already have ownerless and Hobbit, Tim, and a few others hinting that they'll be leaving after the season.

[TheCorpulent1]

I'm gonna leave and then rejoin again. Out of spite. :p

[primemover]

I'm gonna leave, start my own league, have that league collapse due to mismanagement then come crawling back!

[wiegeabo]

Maybe we should put together a list of everyone who knows they will be back for the start of season 3 (as of right now), will probably be back, will probably not be back, and will definitely not be back.

That way we'll get an idea about how many teams there will be, and how many spots will probably need to fill.


I'll be back.

[AnnoyingSilence]

I don't know why we'd be worried about what's fair for new recruits . . . with the league contracting from 24 to 16, there may not even be any.I'd just like to point out that there been a lot of no showers. So you never know... A couple of'm might be kicked out.

[AnnoyingSilence]

I'll definitely be back.

[primemover]

Super-Skrull will be back.

[wiegeabo]

So that's
3 definitely returning
0 possibly returning
0 possibly not returning
0 definitely not returing

(I know some have said before what they'll do, but I'm starting the count from scratch)

[Guyverjay]

Me gone

[AnnoyingSilence]

actually, your starting with yourself...

[Guyverjay]

:confused:

One championship and one plays offs is good enough for me (don't think I'll win this one)

[wiegeabo]

So that's
3 definitely returning
0 possibly returning
0 possibly not returning
1 definitely not returing
5 ownerless

= 19 teams unaccounted for

But if Mazda's sticking around, we won't need to find an owner for their team.

[Harlekin]

You can count on me to be there.

[The Leaguer]

I'll be back, you know how I do.

Maybe, for Guyver, you should put something like ".5 not returning."

'Cause we all know Guyver is only half a man. :p

[AnnoyingSilence]

So that's
3 definitely returning
0 possibly returning
0 possibly not returning
1 definitely not returning
5 ownerless

= 19 teams unaccounted for

But if Mazda's sticking around, we won't need to find an owner for their team.actually, all the ownerless team(I assume) are going to be ditched and you really can't count Da Guyv as a owner since there are 2 owners for that team. I'd also automaticly count JB as a stay, he is the commy:D

6 Definite return
0 poss. return
0 poss. no return
0 Definite leave
5 ownerless

6 accounted for
10 unaccounted(only 16 next season)

[Harlekin]

Ehhh, you already edited it.

[AnnoyingSilence]

yea

>weeee<

did you hear that??

>weeeeeeeee<

there it is again

>WeeeeeeeeeEEEEEEEE<

yea, thats me throwing a tempertantrum. i want Johnny storm!

[wiegeabo]

So that's
5 definitely returning
0 possibly returning
0 possibly not returning
1 definitely not returing
5 ownerless

= 14 teams unaccounted for

I'm assuming for now that Mazda is coming back, which is why I didn't count the Guyvers as ownerless. And I figure JB will be back, I'll just wait for him to make it nice and official ;)

and I'm still counting all 24 teams so at the end we'll know how many teams with owners will have to drop out if we go over 16.

[AnnoyingSilence]

so in other words, my count is more accurate.:D

[wiegeabo]

It all depends on the point of view.

I would claim mine is more accurate. And it is ;) :p

[AnnoyingSilence]

Yea, but my milkshake brings all the girls to the yard:eek:

[XFanTim]

At this point I almost certainly won't be back next season. I might rejoin for some future season, if my school/research schedule gets less crappy. It's not that I don't like the DTL . . . I just don't like having to try to fit it in amongst all the crud I have to do for real life.

But if having me drop means you'd be going lower than 16 teams, I'd consider hanging around and just doing a crappy, non-story-based writeup each week until you find someone to take the team over. That is, if people would prefer that to either having an ownerless team or delaying the season until they find someone.

[wiegeabo]

We'd drop to 16 but not lower. So should I put you down as a possibly not returning or definitely?

I'll assume possibly; So that's
5 definitely returning
0 possibly returning
1 possibly not returning
1 definitely not returing
5 ownerless

= 13 teams unaccounted for

[Harlekin]

Who's the definitely not returning? Guyver? I thought since Ahura and Guyv do the co-owner thing, that doesn't really count?

[TheCorpulent1]

I'm definitely coming back. For shnizzle.

[wiegeabo]

Who's the definitely not returning? Guyver? I thought since Ahura and Guyv do the co-owner thing, that doesn't really count?

I put Guyver under not returning, but since I haven't heard from Mazda, I haven't removed the Guyvers from the team count. So the Guyvers is still one of the unnaccounted for teams.

So that's
6 definitely returning (wiegeabo, AS, prime, Corp., Harlekin, Leaguer)
0 possibly returning
1 possibly not returning (XFanTim)
1 definitely not returing (Guyverjay)
5 ownerless

= 12 teams unaccounted for

[Johnny Blaze]

At the current time I see myself coming back and running the show for one more romp.

[primemover]

Hey weigabo, give season 3 a magic number!!

I think it stands at 9 now(7 returning for sure)

[wiegeabo]

So that's
7 definitely returning (wiegeabo, AS, prime, Corp., Harlekin, Leaguer, JB)
0 possibly returning
1 possibly not returning (XFanTim)
1 definitely not returing (Guyverjay)
5 ownerless

= 11 teams unaccounted for

[Gilrean]

I'd be a 'Possibly not returning' owner.

[wiegeabo]

Sorry to hear that.

So that's
7 definitely returning (wiegeabo, AS, prime, Corp., Harlekin, Leaguer, JB)
0 possibly returning
2 possibly not returning (XFanTim, Gilrean)
1 definitely not returing (Guyverjay)
5 ownerless

= 10 teams unaccounted for
(Tropico, Jason, Nightwing, JH, Ahura, Franklin, mikeyh89, Roughneck, LadyVader, yeneald)

[JewishHobbit]

As much as I love the DTL I don't plan on returning next season. I just have too much stuff going on at the moment and the DTL has become more of a drag than a joy (not due to the DTL or you guys, you're all great, but due to how busy I am on the other end). I know I'll miss it and who knows,.. if things lighten up and I miss it too much I may look for an oppertunity to jump back in later in the season,.... but for now put me down as definately not returning.

(But like Tim,... if you absolutely need me to stay I can stay to fill the spot until a replacement comes. Just ask.)

[wiegeabo]

Sorry to hear will be losing so many.

So that's
7 definitely returning (wiegeabo, AS, prime, Corp., Harlekin, Leaguer, JB)
0 possibly returning
2 possibly not returning (XFanTim, Gilrean)
2 definitely not returing (Guyverjay, JH)
5 ownerless

= 9 teams unaccounted for
(Tropico, Jason, Nightwing, Ahura, Franklin, mikeyh89, Roughneck, LadyVader, yeneald)

[Tropico]

7 definitely returning (wiegeabo, AS, prime, Corp., Harlekin, Leaguer, JB)
1 possibly returning (Tropico)
2 possibly not returning (XFanTim, Gilrean)
2 definitely not returing (Guyverjay, JH)
5 ownerless

= 8 teams unaccounted for
(Jason, Nightwing, Ahura, Franklin, mikeyh89, Roughneck, LadyVader, yeneald)

[wiegeabo]

Well it looks like we've got 8 teams lined up to some degree. Just 8 more for a full season.

[AnnoyingSilence]

Well it looks like we've got 8 teams lined up to some degree. Just 8 more for a full season.Dare i say...

"Recruitement thread in the Marvel and Dc Boards?"

but ofcourse, only with JB's promission... I'm just trying to be curitous to the rule. I know that 1 thread in 2 boards won't bring any havoc down on the DTL.

[wiegeabo]

We've still got a few teams left to hear from, and plenty fo time. i hope

[AnnoyingSilence]

I'm seriously doubtful that any of them will respond

[AnnoyingSilence]

7 definitely returning (wiegeabo, AS, prime, Corp., Harlekin, Leaguer, JB)I have to be undefeated, while Jason and Tropico both lose twice. I'm still in it for a wild card standing.

That means... NightWing, kick some boody, you too Tim! I'm counting on you!

Trop has to lose this week and next week, Mikey doesn't do write-ups(well, just plain isn't here), so thats an auto-win.

Gilrean and NightWing, come on, put something nice out. Take your time, Shield yourselves, Seperate the Ubers... The word that matters the most is...

"Suprise!"

Catch them off guard!, this the best mode of attack. thier adrinalin isn't high, so its easy to just knock them out if your good, or get the death shot if your evil. Now you can't take out the WHOLE team like that, but if you don't know a character... its on

[Ahura Mazda]

I only joinned because I had back up. I do not have the time to do the write ups nor spend the time necessary for this thing. At the moment it has been quiet which has given me the time but things are not always quiet.

I do not think it would be fair for me to stay on as I doubt I will be able to be consistently present but of course if our team cannot find somebody to take it over, I will hang on until you guys do find somebody.

This is a fun game but it is very time consuming.

[Ahura Mazda]

:confused:

One championship and one plays offs is good enough for me (don't think I'll win this one)


Too bad but hey, defeat should never be envisaged until no other option is available. We will win!!! :mad: ;) :D

[AnnoyingSilence]

Well, My write-up is done... I'll post it as soon as i can get to a computer tommorrow

[Johnny Blaze]

Dare i say...

"Recruitement thread in the Marvel and Dc Boards?"

but ofcourse, only with JB's promission... I'm just trying to be curitous to the rule. I know that 1 thread in 2 boards won't bring any havoc down on the DTL.
Nope, don't do it.

[LadyVader]

Are you kidding me?
Me!? Quit?!?! This was just the warm up season.
:D

[wiegeabo]

So thats
8 definitely returning (wiegeabo, AS, prime, Corp., Harlekin, Leaguer, JB, LadyVader)
1 possibly returning (Tropico)
2 possibly not returning (XFanTim, Gilrean)
3 definitely not returing (Guyverjay, JH, Ahura)
5 ownerless

= 6 teams unaccounted for
(Jason, Nightwing, Franklin, mikeyh89, Roughneck, yeneald)

Or should I put you under possibly not returning, Ahura?

Cheers to LadyVader:D

[LadyVader]

Like I said... you're going to have to throw me out. :)

[Nightwing.]

im definatley comin back.so hopefully the uber thing can be sorted and we can have some fun.but yeah im a definate.ive just got nightwing in my team so i aint going nowhere

[Nightwing.]

union jack will be back if things improve.he just hates the *****y ness.we came up with an idea. the weekly threads are for write ups and votes only.the discussion thread is for discussion but under no circumstances should there be any *****ing. JB should make it an official rule. and also you can only criticise your opponents write up not anyone elses. it can be controlled and fun.the fun is writing not being slated cos something wasnt historically correct.

[wiegeabo]

So thats
9 definitely returning (wiegeabo, AS, prime, Corp., Harlekin, Leaguer, JB, LadyVader, Nightwing)
1 possibly returning (Tropico)
2 possibly not returning (XFanTim, Gilrean)
3 definitely not returing (Guyverjay, JH, Ahura)
5 ownerless

= 5 teams unaccounted for
(Jason, Franklin, mikeyh89, Roughneck, yeneald)

I thought Jack said he'd be back. I'll just wait for him to confirm.

[Union Jack]

yeah,if everything calms back down and we can get back to just having fun and all this too uber buisiness is sorted i'll return.

of course i'll have to start from scratch cos my team has been ransacked already :D

[wiegeabo]

Cool. I think everything will calm down as we hash out all the problems during the break.

So thats
9 definitely returning (wiegeabo, AS, prime, Corp., Harlekin, Leaguer, JB, LadyVader, Nightwing)
2 possibly returning (Tropico, Union Jack)
2 possibly not returning (XFanTim, Gilrean)
3 definitely not returing (Guyverjay, JH, Ahura)
5 ownerless

= 5 teams unaccounted for
(Jason, Franklin, mikeyh89, Roughneck, yeneald)

[Nightwing.]

why is JH leaving?also can i ask.what is the number of posts you need to get the next size of avatar?

[Harlekin]

5,000

[XFanTim]

why is JH leaving?
Like he said: too much going on in real life, so not enough time.

Stupid real life. :mad:

[XFanTim]

I've been trying to put together a DTL Code of Conduct -- something that all the DTL participants could agree to abide by before the start of next season (if not sooner.) Hopefully, it wouldn't require any actual penalties for rules violations, since everyone would be true to their word and would follow it. Although of course if they didn't it would probably end up costing them votes.

Anyway, here's what I have so far. Let me know what you think of it, plus if you think there are any other points that should be added (or taken away), or any other changes.

DTL Code of Conduct:

1. Absolutely no insults or name-calling.

2. Criticism of write-ups should be limited to specific issues, not comments on the write-up as a whole (or the person who wrote it).
For instance:
RIGHT: "Your portrayal of Captain Obscurity was somewhat inaccurate."
WRONG: "Your portrayal of Captain Obscurity was somewhat inaccurate, and therefore your write-up sucked."
WRONGER: "Your portrayal of Captain Obscurity was somewhat inaccurate, and therefore your write-up sucked and you’re a moron."

3. Criticism should be as straightforward and factual as possible. Don’t be condescending.
For example:
RIGHT: "I think you misunderstood Doctor Pizza-Face’s complexion-altering powers. He gives other people break-outs. His skin remains clear and unblemished."
WRONG: "Do you even know who Doctor Pizza-Face is?!? Have you ever even read an Acne League comic?!?!?!"

4. Don’t post criticism of someone else’s write-up (i.e., someone other than your opponent) until you vote – then post it in the same post as your vote. If the person you’re criticizing responds to your comments, you can respond to their reply – otherwise, drop it.

5. Voting should be based solely on lineups, write-ups, and debate – not on favoritism, grudges, personal vendettas, etc.
EXCEPTION: If someone is blatantly violating this Code of Conduct, it is acceptable to vote against them on those grounds. However, that should be limited to the week in which the violation occurred.

6. Don’t insult or criticize people for voting against you. No one should have to defend their votes (unless there is legitimate evidence that they’re violating rule #5.)

7. Once voting is closed, don’t continue criticizing your opponent’s write-up or arguing that yours was better. If you’re not feeling inclined to congratulate them on a good match, just don’t say anything.

[XFanTim]

yeah,if everything calms back down and we can get back to just having fun and all this too uber buisiness is sorted i'll return.

of course i'll have to start from scratch cos my team has been ransacked already :D
If you're planning to come back maybe you should reclaim ownership of your team now. That way you could at least be sure to keep Merlin, Captain Britain, etc. (That is, assuming you would still want them next season.) You could still choose not to do writeups for the rest of the season.

[Nightwing.]

4. Don’t post criticism of someone else’s write-up (i.e., someone other than your opponent) until you vote – then post it in the same post as your vote. If the person you’re criticizing responds to your comments, you can respond to their reply – otherwise, drop it.



in response to this one.i dont think there should be anything in the weekly threads other than votes and write ups.no comments even in the votes.we have a discussion thread so comments and things should be taken to that this is purely because some people might not be able to post the second + part of their write up until after votes start and if there is page upon page of discussions between the first and last part it kinda ruins the rhythm of the whole thing.

other than that the rules sound ok

[TheCorpulent1]

DTL Code of Conduct:

1. Absolutely no insults or name-calling.
I ain't agreeing to that, stupid-face. :mad:

Seriously though, those all sound acceptable and basically just a delineation of good sportsmanship. :up:

[Tropico]

in response to this one.i dont think there should be anything in the weekly threads other than votes and write ups.no comments even in the votes.we have a discussion thread so comments and things should be taken to that this is purely because some people might not be able to post the second + part of their write up until after votes start and if there is page upon page of discussions between the first and last part it kinda ruins the rhythm of the whole thing.

other than that the rules sound ok

I disagree. Discussion on battles should happen on the weekly threads. I wasn't a fan of the "space reservation" tactic, but it's the best alternative if you don't want the "flow" interrupted.

[Union Jack]

If you're planning to come back maybe you should reclaim ownership of your team now. That way you could at least be sure to keep Merlin, Captain Britain, etc. (That is, assuming you would still want them next season.) You could still choose not to do writeups for the rest of the season.

Hmmm,good idea tim,i certainly don't want to lose these guys if i do come back next season...def not captain britain!!

ok,i'll take my team back on the provisional basis,as in i'll return fully next time round once we have drawn out the process of cleaning up the DTL.
so again i officially own justice supreme again....but i aint properly in it till next time...that ok?

[JewishHobbit]

Good job on the layout tim,... I think it sounded good. And I'm leaving based soully on the fact that it's extremely hard for me to set aside enough time to devote to write ups, research, debate, etc. I enjoy it (though I'm a little burnt out currently) and I know I'll miss it, I already am. But it's just become to difficult keeping up with the DTL, family, my books, work, church, etc. So I had to drop one of them and my wife wouldn't let me drop family,... so DTL was it. But don't worry, I'll still be around to vote and discuss and if by some odd miracle time frees up I may be able to jump back in (provided there's an open spot).

[Johnny Blaze]

Nice job on drafting a Code of Conduct guideline, Tim. I think I'll definitely put that to use for next season and make anyone who wants to join the league, along with those already in the DTL, agree to abide by it. :up:

[AnnoyingSilence]

Nice job on drafting a Code of Conduct guideline, Tim. I think I'll definitely put that to use for next season and make anyone who wants to join the league, along with those already in the DTL, agree to abide by it. :up:are you going to be setting punishments???

I mean, what the point of saying your setting rules if thier won't be punishments? kinda like saying, "putting in your opinion before you vote is illegal", no one wants to listen if there no reprecutions... and really all thats doing is putting the arguing off until the next day....

[Johnny Blaze]

Of course there'll be repercussions if any of those are broken. First offense will be a warning, second will be a week suspension, and each offense after that is an extra week suspension. And if it gets out of hand where in someone won't quit then expultion will be a regrettable option.

[Ahura Mazda]

Nice set of rules.

:up:

[JewishHobbit]

I just thought I'd throw these up here. These are the award Avatars from Last season. If I need to I can do them again this season but if anyone out there is better than just basic ones like these let me know and you can make them. These are just so everyone has an idea of what they've been:

http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v293/JewishHobbit/Season1WriteUp-Mr.jpg http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v293/JewishHobbit/Season1MVP-Leaguer.jpg http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v293/JewishHobbit/Season1CoinofConduct-JewishHobbit.jpg http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v293/JewishHobbit/Season1Character-C-Man.jpg http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v293/JewishHobbit/Season1Champ-Guyverjay.jpg http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v293/JewishHobbit/Season1AllStar-Weigeabo.jpg

To Clear things up,.. the two MVP awards are differant. One was for the team owner and the other was character (Composite Man). The Coin of Conduct was the sportsmanship award. The Allstar was the winner of the Allstar game. I think the rest are explainable.

[Johnny Blaze]

Speaking about the All Star match...

Attention
I want each of you owners to start thinking about the characters on your team who you will nominate for the All Star voting. You may nominate up to a max of 5 character from your team. The only requirement is that the characters you nominate have to have participated in at least 4 matches during the season. When you figure out your nominations, PM them to me under "All Star Nominations" or what not. If you want to nominate any of your characters, you have to have your nominations to me before the start of Week 16. If you miss the deadline your nominees will not be added to the All Star Ballot.
During the break between the end of the season and the start of the playoffs we will vote for the characters who will compete in the All Star Match. What I'll do is send a ballot out to each of the owners (one for each conference) and each of you will pick a legal starting lineup from the list of characters and send it back to me. The characters with the most votes will represent their conference in the All Star Match (the lineup still has to be legal, so if 3 Ubers get more votes then the rest, only the top two of them will be named All Stars).

[JewishHobbit]

Cool. I didn't like doing the All Star Game last season because I wasn't familiar with the team,... but I think I'm more familiar with the characters this year. If I get to that spot I think I'll like it more this time. I'll go ahead and start figuring out who I want to nominate.

[JewishHobbit]

OH,.. what about the teams with no owners? Do they not get nominations I assume?

[X]

I've been trying to put together a DTL Code of Conduct -- something that all the DTL participants could agree to abide by before the start of next season (if not sooner.) Hopefully, it wouldn't require any actual penalties for rules violations, since everyone would be true to their word and would follow it. Although of course if they didn't it would probably end up costing them votes.

Anyway, here's what I have so far. Let me know what you think of it, plus if you think there are any other points that should be added (or taken away), or any other changes.

DTL Code of Conduct:

1. Absolutely no insults or name-calling.

2. Criticism of write-ups should be limited to specific issues, not comments on the write-up as a whole (or the person who wrote it).
For instance:
RIGHT: "Your portrayal of Captain Obscurity was somewhat inaccurate."
WRONG: "Your portrayal of Captain Obscurity was somewhat inaccurate, and therefore your write-up sucked."
WRONGER: "Your portrayal of Captain Obscurity was somewhat inaccurate, and therefore your write-up sucked and you’re a moron."

3. Criticism should be as straightforward and factual as possible. Don’t be condescending.
For example:
RIGHT: "I think you misunderstood Doctor Pizza-Face’s complexion-altering powers. He gives other people break-outs. His skin remains clear and unblemished."
WRONG: "Do you even know who Doctor Pizza-Face is?!? Have you ever even read an Acne League comic?!?!?!"

4. Don’t post criticism of someone else’s write-up (i.e., someone other than your opponent) until you vote – then post it in the same post as your vote. If the person you’re criticizing responds to your comments, you can respond to their reply – otherwise, drop it.

5. Voting should be based solely on lineups, write-ups, and debate – not on favoritism, grudges, personal vendettas, etc.
EXCEPTION: If someone is blatantly violating this Code of Conduct, it is acceptable to vote against them on those grounds. However, that should be limited to the week in which the violation occurred.

6. Don’t insult or criticize people for voting against you. No one should have to defend their votes (unless there is legitimate evidence that they’re violating rule #5.)

7. Once voting is closed, don’t continue criticizing your opponent’s write-up or arguing that yours was better. If you’re not feeling inclined to congratulate them on a good match, just don’t say anything.

Bwahaha, a good part of that was comic gold, keep it up. :up:

[AnnoyingSilence]

http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v293/JewishHobbit/Season1WriteUp-Mr.jpg http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v293/JewishHobbit/Season1MVP-Leaguer.jpg http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v293/JewishHobbit/Season1CoinofConduct-JewishHobbit.jpg http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v293/JewishHobbit/Season1Character-C-Man.jpg http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v293/JewishHobbit/Season1Champ-Guyverjay.jpg http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v293/JewishHobbit/Season1AllStar-Weigeabo.jpgI may try something...

But it would have to be after the games are over

[Nightwing.]

hey people whilst i was off line i actually did a write up against union jack i just never got to post it on.i was wonderin if you tell me what you think of it as i will post it on now. my team has changed since then so youll just have to bare with it.

[Nightwing.]

Heroes Of The New Age (Owner: Nightwing)



Team 7: The Fall Of Justice Supreme



Juggernaut (What If…?) (MU) 1 (http://www.uncannyxmen.net/db/spotlight/showquestion.asp?faq=10&fldAuto=96&page=9)

Martian Manhunter (DU) 1 (http://www.geocities.com/TheTropics/1185/jfiles/martianmanhunter.html)

Blackfire (DM) (F) 1 (http://www.titanstower.com/source/whoswho/tamaran.html#black)

Gambit (MR) 1 (http://www.marveldirectory.com/xoops/modules/wordbook/entry.php?entryID=264)

Beast Boy (DR) 1 (http://www.titanstower.com/source/whoswho/beastboy.html)



Justice Supreme ver.2 (Owner: Union Jack)



Darkseid (DU)

Merlin (MU)

Captain Britain (MM)

The Atom (DR)

Psylocke (MR) (F)



The Fall Of The Justice Supreme vs. Justice Supreme ver.2



Metropolis



“Indeed I do recognise this place” J’onn looked about the city streets. He had been here before as had one of his former companions. “We are in metropolis; it is a city from my universe. A member of the JLA used to work here before we were split up for this tournament.” The other members of ‘The Fall’ looked among the buildings and streets realising it didn’t look all that different from places they had all encountered before. “Gambit thinks we should find somewhere to chill out before we gotta fight this Justice Supreme”

“A fine idea from the Cajun. Let us reside in a nearby motel and we can formulate some kind of plan.” They made their way to a motel which just over looked the Daily Planet. “That is the building in which my colleague worked in his alternate identification.” A few hours past and the team talked and tried to figure out some kind of plan. “The best thing we can do is just go for an all out offensive. Fortunately for us there aren’t any civilians in the city so we don’t have to watch out for casualties.” A few of them honed their skills and abilities, sparring each other as they tried to alert their minds and senses to their full potential. “This battleground is very large and we could easily get lost. I will link all our minds with our telepathy so if you have any trouble we can contact one another and help out.” As they continued to spar The Juggernaut and Martian Manhunter looked out of the window. J’onn gazed as though he was in deep thought. “You worried about this battle or summin’?”

“I am sensing a presence and im hoping that im not right. This someone I’ve met before and they aren’t to be taken lightly. He is the being known as Darkseid…” Everyone stopped what they were doing and walked towards Manhunter. “…The Justice League fought him 15 years from now. I know this makes no sense but he was waiting to take control of this world and all it took was my friends and I to destroy the philosopher’s stone. In the future a few of us rallied together and destroyed him. My life was taken in the process. I cannot explain how this happened but what I know about this god is he is very powerful and will stop at nothing to destroy humanity.”

“How did he get beaten before?”

“He was defeated by Ray Parker also known as The Atom. There is another problem however.”

“What?”

“I sense his presence also” The Fall looked worried however they weren’t gonna falter as this news. “So who else are we against? Is there anyone else you can sense?” J’onn scanned the city skyline searching for minds to delve into. “Yes I have found the other three. One is a psychic also. She tried to block my mind however she isn’t as skilled as my self. I believe you know her Remy.”

“Is it Jean Grey?”

“No it is someone who goes by the name of Psylocke.”

“Gambit knows Betty. But she died in Genosha. I almost died there myself.”

“Well im sure someone can deal with her it’s her brother and his companion I’d be more worried about. Her brother Brian Braddock holds Excalibur which has the power to reinvent the cosmos and his companion is the all powerful magician Merlin.”

“Well his magic won’t be anything to stand against the power of the Cyttorak.”

“No. You should go for Darkseid. You’re the only one who stands a chance against him. I will tackle Merlin. The rest of you will have to pick your opponents. However do so wisely. None are to be underestimated.”

They continued to spar whilst they tried to decide who they were gonna face. The hour started to draw late and J’onn could feel Darkseid’s mind drawing ever nearer. “We must depart this place and separate our numbers. The Justice Supreme ver.2 is closing in on us” They picked themselves up and left the motel. They looked out onto the street and started to walk off.



At the other end of the city the Justice Supreme were formulating a plan of their own. “Brian I was able to sense the Manhunter’s mind. He blocked me but he had mind linked with his team so I was able to detect who we are facing.”

“Well done Betty. Any info we can get before we actually fight will be an advantage to us all.”

“Well obviously we’re against the Manhunter who has a telepathy level far more advanced than my own”

“Ha ha ha…” Darkseid looked at the former x-man. “Then you are weak little lady. My servant Desaad killed the Manhunter before. He just tortured him and burnt him. He is weak to fire. You do know how to make fire don’t you mortal? I mean the primitive man has had the ability to create such power since your stone age.”

“Do not worry about the Martian. I will deal with him. Betty who else can we expect to face?”

“Well I can sense another x-man…Gambit.”

“What can we expect from him?”

“He has the ability to charge objects with kinetic energy. He charges it to a point that it explodes making it very hard to get near him. He is also a skilled martial artist.”

“You think you take him Ray?”

“I’m not sure. If you say its hard to get near him then I suppose I would be better against someone who lacks projectile powers.”

“Then you’re in luck. They have a shape shifter on their team. He has the ability to change into any creature he wishes.”

“Beast Boy. I know him…he’s a member of the Teen Titans. He won’t be much of a problem”

“There is another Martian amongst this team. She is a Tamaranean.”

“Ah that would be Starfire…she too is a Titan.”

“I would agree with you there Ray but im afraid Starfire is a member of the Justice Supreme.”

“It must be her sister Blackfire…She is a lot more ruthless as a warrior. She lacks compassion which is a flaw for Starfire.”

“Hmmm sounds like quite a warrior. If we weren’t to destroy her she would be a worthy soldier for my army.”

“And the fifth opponent?”

“I cant get into his mind. He seems to have some form of shield from my telepathy.”

“Could it be the Martian’s doing?”

To Be Continued…

[Nightwing.]

Heroes Of The New Age (Owner: Nightwing)



Team 7: The Fall Of Justice Supreme



Juggernaut (What If…?) (MU) 1 (http://www.uncannyxmen.net/db/spotlight/showquestion.asp?faq=10&fldAuto=96&page=9)

Martian Manhunter (DU) 1 (http://www.geocities.com/TheTropics/1185/jfiles/martianmanhunter.html)

Blackfire (DM) (F) 1 (http://www.titanstower.com/source/whoswho/tamaran.html#black)

Gambit (MR) 1 (http://www.marveldirectory.com/xoops/modules/wordbook/entry.php?entryID=264)

Beast Boy (DR) 1 (http://www.titanstower.com/source/whoswho/beastboy.html)



Justice Supreme ver.2 (Owner: Union Jack)



Darkseid (DU)

Merlin (MU)

Captain Britain (MM)

The Atom (DR)

Psylocke (MR) (F)



The Fall Of The Justice Supreme vs. Justice Supreme ver.2



Metropolis



The Juggernaut(What If…?) Vs. Darkseid Part 1



“No it’s all my doing. Darkseid your mine…”

“You best go find you’re opponents. Once I have defeated this human then I will join you” Darkseid released his tracker beams at The Juggernaut as the rest of Justice Supreme split and made for ‘The Fall’. Darkseid released his omega beam and the force flew at Juggernaut with incredible power. The Juggernaut felt the force slow him down considerably but he still made his charge. His feet were knocked back slightly but he managed to get a gripping into the floor and continue towards the apokoliptic god. Darkseid’s omega beam stopped and he noticed The Juggernaut was not only still standing but he was also making his charge towards him. Darkseid decided to charge and meet him in combat. As he ran The Juggernaut sped up and brought his arm back. He released it half heartedly and brought it down on Darkseid’s face. He was knocked back but managed to withstand the punch quite a bit. He was very surprised by the power of this ‘human’. “You are indeed very powerful. I have never faced such a worthy opponent as yourself.”

“You ain’t gonna face anyone else again after me.” The two titans engaged in a mass battle of punches. Darkseid seemed to be the faster of the two however his power didn’t match that of The Juggernauts. Cain grabbed Darkseid by the head and made his charge towards some large high rise buildings. As he ploughed through the structures he felt his grip slip on Darkseid. He slammed his hands into the floor to stop himself. As he turned he saw a flicker of red as Darkseid released his omega beam. Being slightly off balance he toppled onto one knee giving Darkseid a huge opportunity. He charged at The Juggernaut and slammed his knee into his chest. He then hammered his hands into the helmet atop his head and ripped it clean off. Then with great speed and power he managed to execute a spinning kick so powerful it knock Marko onto his back. “Ha ha ha…you are not worthy at all. You are weak just like the rest of this miserable planet. Soon you will live and die Darkseid.” Rage burnt inside Marko and pulled himself back onto one knee. As he rose to the other he brought his fist up with great force and connected it with Darkseid’s chin pulling him clean off his feet. He then brought his foot down hard aiming for his head. Darkseid managed to evade this and grabbed his leg. He yanked it from beneath him and brought him down to one knee again. As he was standing to face The Juggernaut he was met by his giant hand. He clutched Darkseid’s throat and picked him up. His feet were raised off the floor as Marko stared him straight in the eyes. He threw him across the city street. His huge body smashed through the structures of the nearby skyscrapers. He took a run for Darkseid. The god of Apokolips stood and made a run also. The whole city shook as the two behemoths collided…



Gambit and Blackfire vs. Psylocke and Captain Britain



Psylocke walked down a street fully aware of someone lurking in the shadows in a nearby alleyway. “I know your there Gambit. I also know your questioning why I’m here. I’m afraid I can’t explain that. But what I can explain is you’re not gonna survive long enough to question anymore.” She quickly leaped out of the way as Gambit let fly a number of charged cards in her direction. As she landed she unleashed her psychic daggers over her hands. The glow revealed Gambit’s location and he jumped out of the shadows towards her. She back flipped away from his advancing attack and swung with her dagger. He ducks in time and unleashes another hand of cards. The blast knocks her back onto the floor and her daggers disappear. He charges another card and waves it above her unconscious body. Before he could release it however, he felt his whole body being lifted at great speed. As he looked behind him he saw Brian Braddock lifting him high above his sister. He had a look of anger on his face. He travelled at quite a speed across the city only to be met by Blackfire hovering in the sky. Brian stopped and stared into her green glowing eyes. He dropped Gambit. As he fell he felt his velocity start to decrease. J’onn caught him with his TK and lowered him to the floor. He ran back to where Psylocke lay. He left Captain Britain and Blackfire to continue their aerial battle.



When he arrived he noticed Psylocke had moved. He crouched down to look for tracks in the floor. As he rose Psylocke landed in front of him. She clutched her fists and ran at Gambit. Before he could charge a card she slammed her fist hard into his lower body he doubled over in pain and fell to the floor. Blood poured from the wound. She turned and left him to die slowly. He acted quickly and ripped the sleeve off his jacket and wound it around his waist applying enough pressure to stop the bleeding. He took after Psylocke. She knew he was after him but kept running anyway to make a sport of it. She ran a few yards from the Daily Planet and stopped. She turned to face him, daggers glowing at her hands. As he ran to her she lunged at him, this time slashing at his arm and leg. He lost his balance and toppled over. He lay back on the floor clutching his arm. Psylocke stepped on his stomach causing the blood to pour. He pulled out a card and threw up. Psylocke dodged it and brought her fist down into his chest. As she removed her hand from his chest brick fell from the structure above her. As she turned the metal globe from the Daily Planet fell. It landed on the x-men and put them both out of the fight.



Brian saw this from above as he was knocking Blackfire about. He had an advantage over her as his speed and strength were one step ahead of hers. He landed another sharp punch into Blackfire’s face. She spiralled away and he flew down to the wreckage below. He lifted the globe off the bodies but it was too late. As he turned again Blackfire released a wave of starbolts at Captain Britain he took most of them in the chest and lower body without much effect however it was the bolts that connected with the floor that took him off his feet. She flew over to him and fired more bolts at him. He drew Excalibur and jumped to his feet taking a large swing at her. She was quick enough to evade the sword but the follow through kick took her by surprise and she felt her legs go from beneath her. He pointed the blade at her face; the metal rang as light reflected off it. As he held it over her the floor started to crumble below him. The Tamaranean has surged power through the floor knocking him off balance causing him to drop his sword. It skidded across the floor out of his reach. Before he could jump up Blackfire was holding the enchanted sword above him. She brought it down with all her might, impaling Brian through his rib cage and lung. Life quickly left his body and Blackfire took to the skies. As she circled the city she saw what remained of the buildings in which Darkseid and The Juggernaut were fighting. She knew not to intervene in that battle…



To Be Continued…

[Nightwing.]

Heroes Of The New Age (Owner: Nightwing)



Team 7: The Fall Of Justice Supreme



Juggernaut (What If…?) (MU) 1 (http://www.uncannyxmen.net/db/spotlight/showquestion.asp?faq=10&fldAuto=96&page=9)

Martian Manhunter (DU) 1 (http://www.geocities.com/TheTropics/1185/jfiles/martianmanhunter.html)

Blackfire (DM) (F) 1 (http://www.titanstower.com/source/whoswho/tamaran.html#black)

Gambit (MR) 1 (http://www.marveldirectory.com/xoops/modules/wordbook/entry.php?entryID=264)

Beast Boy (DR) 1 (http://www.titanstower.com/source/whoswho/beastboy.html)



Justice Supreme ver.2 (Owner: Union Jack)



Darkseid (DU)

Merlin (MU)

Captain Britain (MM)

The Atom (DR)

Psylocke (MR) (F)



The Fall Of The Justice Supreme vs. Justice Supreme ver.2



Metropolis



Beast Boy vs. The Atom



Beast Boy was hot on the scent of Ray in the guise of a bloodhound. Ray jumped from an alleyway and looked Gar straight in the eyes. As Beast Boy blink Ray vanished. Beast Boy knew his game and so he changed his shape and morphed into a spider. He could just make out Atom’s body and ran over to him. His fangs were primed and ready for the kill when Ray shrunk again. Beast Boy copied this and shrunk again this time into a flea. As the Atom ran Beast Boy leapt a great distance onto Ray and pinned him down with his legs. Ray tried to punch him away but the mass of his body was too much for Ray to move so he opted to shrink even further. Beast Boy didn’t think he could replicate such a reduction in size but he thought he’d try anyway. His body transformed and he found he was the form of an amoeba. Ray looked impressed that someone had managed to put so much of a fight against him however he was growing restless. He shrunk again and jumped onto the amoeba. He ripped the nucleus out from the centre of the single celled organism. Beast Boy didn’t morph again. Ray took his natural size and made towards the battle between Darkseid and The Juggernaut.



Martian Manhunter vs. Merlin part 1



“I have followed your movements for sometime now Merlin. I can also sense a great power in you. Am I right?”

“Indeed you are. And I’m not mistaken that you too are extremely powerful also?”

“That is correct. It is a shame that we must battle as we could do a great deal with such power.”

“I agree but you must perish.”

“Very well let us begin” and without hesitation Merlin cast a spell creating a ring of fire around J’onn. J’onn feared the worst in this situation and phased out. He slipped through the floor. Merlin called back the fire and scryed to find Martian Manhunter. He found that he was over by Darkseid and The Juggernaut.



The Juggernaut, Blackfire and Martian Manhunter vs. Darkseid, The Atom and Merlin



Ray ran towards Darkseid waiting for his moment to strike. “Fire your omega beams”

“Darkseid doesn’t take orders from mortals”

“Just do it” Darkseid aimed his tracer beams at The Juggernaut. This was Ray’s chance. He jumped and shrunk riding the light waves from the tracer beam. As they ran through The Juggernaut he climbed inside his head. Just as he was about to grow he felt his body tighten. J’onn had phased up behind Marko and reached inside his head. He pulled The Atom out and released a powerful mind blast at him. He returned to his natural size and fell to the floor in a fit, foaming at the mouth. Darkseid released his omega beam but Marko blocked it from J’onn’s path. Merlin appeared once again to intervene on the battle. He waved his staff and created a portal to limbo. Darkseid grabbed The Juggernaut and tried to drag him into it. His attempt was unsuccessful either way. Merlin fired incantation after incantation to try and disable The Juggernauts force shield and drag him into the portal. J’onn saw this as an opportunity and reached into Merlin’s chest he clutched his heart and began to squeeze. Although he was old his heart could withstand a lot of damage from the Martian. Eventually it gave. As it did his staff fell from his hand. The portal to limbo was about to close when Blackfire flew down from the skies and released three waves of starbolts at Darkseid. They connected with him and sent him tumbling back Marko charged him and slammed him in the chest. Darkseid lost his balance and toppled into the portal. It closed and Darkseid was gone. The remaining heroes stood amidst the rubble and destruction. Their battle was over. They were victorious once again.



End

[Nightwing.]

this was week 12 by the way

[Harlekin]

My internet has been acting screwy lately, so I decided to vote a little earlier than I usely do. Sorry for those still planning on doing a write-up.

[TheCorpulent1]

I'm curious: How much information are we allowed to give our characters directly? JH let Bloodstorm in on the fact that Thena's an Eternal, which I don't think she would've known otherwise. I thought we basically gave them a bunch of names and maybe what they look like, then they come up with the rest from their resources and experience.

[Johnny Blaze]

I'm curious: How much information are we allowed to give our characters directly? JH let Bloodstorm in on the fact that Thena's an Eternal, which I don't think she would've known otherwise. I thought we basically gave them a bunch of names and maybe what they look like, then they come up with the rest from their resources and experience.
Yeah, the only info they get is the picture of the character and their names as they are known on the DTL roster.
I haven't read his write up yet, but, if he did have Enigma give Bloodstorm some info on a character, no matter how trivial the info is, that's wrong.

[JewishHobbit]

I'm curious: How much information are we allowed to give our characters directly? JH let Bloodstorm in on the fact that Thena's an Eternal, which I don't think she would've known otherwise. I thought we basically gave them a bunch of names and maybe what they look like, then they come up with the rest from their resources and experience.

yeah, I thought about that after I wrote it but was too tired to fix it. I can go back and edit it out if I'm aloud. But it didn't really impact the story at all. Cap and Resurrection Man's fight with her was shown from mid-way so they could have easily learned about her previous to that,.. or as cheep as it is,.. Aza Chorn could have just went to his planet's library and picked up Avengers 375 or something and researched her. If not then she did take out both Resurrection Man and Cap anyway and then Aza Chorn found them and attacked her.... so I can edit that part out and it wouldn't change a thing.

(note - I think I'm going to post this over in that thread as well as it's the place for this conversation)

[TheCorpulent1]

I didn't mind, I was just curious about what the exact rule was. I thought I'd unintentionally been limiting myself by not revealing some details.

[XFanTim]

in response to this one.i dont think there should be anything in the weekly threads other than votes and write ups.no comments even in the votes.we have a discussion thread so comments and things should be taken to that this is purely because some people might not be able to post the second + part of their write up until after votes start and if there is page upon page of discussions between the first and last part it kinda ruins the rhythm of the whole thing.
You mean put the comments for every single matchup in the same thread? Even if there are only 8 matchups a week next season instead of 12, that still sounds like it would be extremely confusing.

[JewishHobbit]

NO you were right,.. I just forgot about the rule until after I finished it. I was so tired that I didn't want to go back and edit it so I just left it how it was figuring that I never really followed up on it.

[Tropico]

NO you were right,.. I just forgot about the rule until after I finished it. I was so tired that I didn't want to go back and edit it so I just left it how it was figuring that I never really followed up on it.

I'm pretty sure you know this, but remember that you're not supposed to edit write-ups after they're done.:D

[JewishHobbit]

I ment before I posted it,.. or durring,.. or something like that. It was before it was actually up but I was just so tired I just posted the darn thing. I don't remember exactly when I thought of it. I just know I wasn't in the mood to write it and didn't feel like going back to fix anything.

[XFanTim]

Here's a suggestion for next season: I know the rule has always been that writeups are optional, but I really think there should be some sort of minimum participation requirement. It's one thing to not do a full-fledged story every week, and it's another thing to do nothing every week. I think the rule should be that any team that doesn't make any attempt to argue their case for three straight matches loses ownership of their team automatically. If they even just want to post a few bullet points each week on why they'd win, then they'd be in the clear. But if they ignore the matchup threads completely then they shouldn't get to keep their team.

This would also eliminate the trouble of Blaze having to repeatedly PM people to try to find out if they've quit. Now he'd send them one message after two weeks of inactivity, warning them that they're about to lose their team. Then, if they do nothing in the third week, the team is up for grabs.

[AnnoyingSilence]

I'm curious: How much information are we allowed to give our characters directly? JH let Bloodstorm in on the fact that Thena's an Eternal, which I don't think she would've known otherwise. I thought we basically gave them a bunch of names and maybe what they look like, then they come up with the rest from their resources and experience.all i give is a pic and name. then they tell what they know

[AnnoyingSilence]

Here's a suggestion for next season: I know the rule has always been that writeups are optional, but I really think there should be some sort of minimum participation requirement. It's one thing to not do a full-fledged story every week, and it's another thing to do nothing every week. I think the rule should be that any team that doesn't make any attempt to argue their case for three straight matches loses ownership of their team automatically. If they even just want to post a few bullet points each week on why they'd win, then they'd be in the clear. But if they ignore the matchup threads completely then they shouldn't get to keep their team.

This would also eliminate the trouble of Blaze having to repeatedly PM people to try to find out if they've quit. Now he'd send them one message after two weeks of inactivity, warning them that they're about to lose their team. Then, if they do nothing in the third week, the team is up for grabs.i agree

[wiegeabo]

Sounds good to me. We always seem to be turning away a couple of people a season who'd like to participate, but the teams are filled. And some are filled by non-participators. If we freed these up we might get some new blood that would contribute.

Although, if they took the time to change their lineups, but still didn't do anykind of write up, would that still count against them?

[wiegeabo]

In the transactions thread, Ahura mentioned that he might return if he finds the time. I'll make a minor change...

So thats
9 definitely returning (wiegeabo, AS, prime, Corp., Harlekin, Leaguer, JB, LadyVader, Nightwing)
2 possibly returning (Tropico, Union Jack)
3 possibly not returning (XFanTim, Gilrean, Ahura)
2 definitely not returing (Guyverjay, JH)
5 ownerless

= 5 teams unaccounted for
(Jason, Franklin, mikeyh89, Roughneck, yeneald)

[wiegeabo]

Magic numbers update on Update thread.

The math is getting really easy now. :D

[JewishHobbit]

DANG IT TIM!!!! I'm so stinking close to passing you and yet it will never happen now. I've managed to catch up and tie you but both of your last matches are against ownerless teams! Hey,.. maybe I can sign up as a new name, join the DTL for one week,.. beat Tim,.. and then drop out again... hmmmmmm.

[wiegeabo]

Woops, made a small mistake in the magic numbers. Forgot to add JH since he is tied with Tim.

[AnnoyingSilence]

I would like to point out the most competitive Division

Metropolis Division
$The Blazing Horde: 12 wins/ 2 losses/ 0 ties/ DivRec 5-0/ ConRec 11-2/ 162 TV
Neverwhere: 8 wins/ 6 losses/ 0 ties/ DivRec 3-2/ ConRec 7-6/ 105 TV
The Mystic Creampuffs: 8 wins/ 6 losses/ 0 ties/ DivRec 1-4/ ConRec 7-6/ 96 TV
Devastating Silence: 6 wins/ 8 losses/ 0 ties/ DivRec 1-4/ ConRec 6-7/ 95 TV

It is the rarest thing to find this band not doing write-ups

[Nightwing.]

has noone got any comments on my week 12 write up?

[wiegeabo]

How many characters can we nominate from our team to the All-Star game?

Oh, and I know the restriction is that they must have been in at least 4 matches. But does that mean we had to use them in four matches? Or is it ok to count it if a team we picked them up from used them in matches as well?

[XFanTim]

DANG IT TIM!!!! I'm so stinking close to passing you and yet it will never happen now. I've managed to catch up and tie you but both of your last matches are against ownerless teams!
Yeah, I was really relieved to see that I'm still ahead of you in total votes . . . especially since Nightwing has said he's not doing a writeup this week, and LadyVader really doesn't have much incentive to do one next week (given that -- if my math is right -- she can't finish higher or lower than 4th in her conference no matter how the rest of the regular season goes.)

Now I just need to make sure to do enough to sweep my last two matches. I'm still only up by two votes . . .

[JewishHobbit]

Yeah, I was really relieved to see that I'm still ahead of you in total votes . . . especially since Nightwing has said he's not doing a writeup this week, and LadyVader really doesn't have much incentive to do one next week (given that -- if my math is right -- she can't finish higher or lower than 4th in her conference no matter how the rest of the regular season goes.)

Now I just need to make sure to do enough to sweep my last two matches. I'm still only up by two votes . . .

Wow,... I actually still have a slight chance (albeit tiny). I thought you had more points than that ahead of me. Well, either way I hold my head high with how close I brought our division to thus far.

[JewishHobbit]

How many characters can we nominate from our team to the All-Star game?

Oh, and I know the restriction is that they must have been in at least 4 matches. But does that mean we had to use them in four matches? Or is it ok to count it if a team we picked them up from used them in matches as well?

If memory serves right we can nominate a max of 5 people as long as they have fought in 4 battles,... and yes previous owner's battles count for the character.

[wiegeabo]

Ah, good. Thanks JH.

[XFanTim]

Wow,... I actually still have a slight chance (albeit tiny). I thought you had more points than that ahead of me. Well, either way I hold my head high with how close I brought our division to thus far.
Well I did, until I pointed out to JB that he forgot to add the ten points you earned from this week's battle. (He had erroneously had me up 134 to 122.)

Am I honest or what? ;)

[wiegeabo]

Your honesty sickens me :yellow:

No not really :D


Well, maybe a little :p

[XFanTim]

Well, the real question is would I have been as honest if the correction put me behind by 2? :D

[JewishHobbit]

Well I did, until I pointed out to JB that he forgot to add the ten points you earned from this week's battle. (He had erroneously had me up 134 to 122.)

Am I honest or what? ;)

AHH! that was the score I had seen. I remember being surprised by it thinking it was closer but thought maybe I misread it previously. Well thanks for the honesty,... I appreciate it.

[Nightwing.]

whats the deal with jason CC?has he even done a write up?has he officially been dropped?same with mikey is he still a member?surely if they are gonna be members and not do write ups they should atleast contribute to the voting

[Tropico]

Jason comes around and does line-up changes and that's about it (oh, and gripe when his team loses to an n/a team). I surmise he's strictly adhering to the rules where it says that a write up isn't necessary

[primemover]

He's getting the most out of the DTL experience!

[wiegeabo]

In the last adventure-packed episode, the numbers stood at:

9 definitely returning (wiegeabo, AS, prime, Corp., Harlekin, Leaguer, JB, LadyVader, Nightwing)
2 possibly returning (Tropico, Union Jack)
3 possibly not returning (XFanTim, Gilrean, Ahura)
2 definitely not returing (Guyverjay, JH)
5 ownerless

= 5 teams unaccounted for
(Jason, Franklin, mikeyh89, Roughneck, yeneald)

Anyone here from the other teams? Or pm them?

[Johnny Blaze]

Mikey will be gone, more than likely. Weeks back he was going to drop out because of internet problems, but we talked him into staying on just in case things worked themselves out.
Yenaled said he liked the DTL and was going to start participating more, but that was a week or so ago.
As for Roughneck, Franklin, and Jason, I'll PM them within the next few days and find out.


Also...as it's been proposed, I'm going to make it mandatory for all owners to do some form of write up for season 3. It doesn't matter whether it is a full on story or just a paragraph or two describing why your team would win, but you'll have to at least do something.

[wiegeabo]

If there is no writeup, is it an automatic forefeit? What if both owners don't do a writeup (just by chance something prevents them from doing so)?

[AnnoyingSilence]

Your honesty sickens me :yellow:

No not really :D


Well, maybe a little :pLMFAO

[AnnoyingSilence]

If there is no writeup, is it an automatic forefeit? What if both owners don't do a writeup (just by chance something prevents them from doing so)?No, if you don't do write-ups for several weeks, then you will be kicked out(not banned)

[wiegeabo]

That's right. Forgot about that.


So if we really, really wanted to, we could vote for someone who didn't do a right up?

[AnnoyingSilence]

how else are you going to do it?:rolleyes:

if there is 2 n/a's in a match, then you vote on w/e you like...

[Nightwing.]

Mikey will be gone, more than likely. Weeks back he was going to drop out because of internet problems, but we talked him into staying on just in case things worked themselves out.
Yenaled said he liked the DTL and was going to start participating more, but that was a week or so ago.
As for Roughneck, Franklin, and Jason, I'll PM them within the next few days and find out.


Also...as it's been proposed, I'm going to make it mandatory for all owners to do some form of write up for season 3. It doesn't matter whether it is a full on story or just a paragraph or two describing why your team would win, but you'll have to at least do something.

so is mikeys team up for grabs then?

[JewishHobbit]

That's right. Forgot about that.


So if we really, really wanted to, we could vote for someone who didn't do a right up?

I'm sure you can. You vote based on whatever you want (as long as it isn't bias) and no questions are to be asked of it.

[Johnny Blaze]

If there is no writeup, is it an automatic forefeit? What if both owners don't do a writeup (just by chance something prevents them from doing so)?
There is no forfiet, and it will have to be at least a couple weeks in a row of not doing anything for me to get on them. First I'll PM the owner in question and find out what the problem is. If they want to stay in they can, but if they start slacking again they're gone.
Course, sometimes you just can't get on, be it work or what not, so if you're going to be missing a week you'd have to let it be known in advance. Even still, one should be able to still come up with at least a paragraph or two of pointers for a battle...unless a hurricane comes by and takes out your power for a few days. Then you're pretty much screwed for that week. :o

Oh, and, no, Mikey's team is not free to pick apart yet.

[Tropico]

Oh, and, no, Mikey's team is not free to pick apart yet.

LOL, straight to the point. Telepath JB wins!

[X]

In the last adventure-packed episode, the numbers stood at:

9 definitely returning (wiegeabo, AS, prime, Corp., Harlekin, Leaguer, JB, LadyVader, Nightwing)
2 possibly returning (Tropico, Union Jack)
3 possibly not returning (XFanTim, Gilrean, Ahura)
2 definitely not returing (Guyverjay, JH)
5 ownerless

= 5 teams unaccounted for
(Jason, Franklin, mikeyh89, Roughneck, yeneald)

Anyone here from the other teams? Or pm them?

You can add me to the definitely returning list. :up:

[Harlekin]

Good to have you back X

[X]

Thanks. :)

[primemover]

My god, make up your mind man!

[X]

Hahaha. :o :D

[wiegeabo]

Adding X and moving Jack to definitely (forgot to do that)
So that's:

11 definitely returning (wiegeabo, AS, prime, Corp., Harlekin, Leaguer, JB, LadyVader, Nightwing, Union Jack, X)
1 possibly returning (Tropico)
3 possibly not returning (XFanTim, Gilrean, Ahura)
2 definitely not returing (Guyverjay, JH)
3 ownerless

= 5 teams unaccounted for
(Jason, Franklin, mikeyh89, Roughneck, yeneald)

And look, once the unaccounted for teams are accounted for, we'll be back to 16. Hows about that!

[X]

Well, I've got a good friend who'll more than likely join, he'd make a great addition too, he's pretty good... So, one ownerless team probably out of the way.

[Nightwing.]

so are we able to raid mikeys team yet?

[Harlekin]

so are we able to raid mikeys team yet?
No. The team is not declared ownerless. Just wait, have a little patience.

[Roughneck]

I'll Be back. And next time I vow not to get really busy and be Lazy regarding the DTL for a good few weeks like I did this time.

So put me and My He-Naners down for Defintely Returning.

[Tropico]

Since they're all pissy about it at the Marvel RPG thread, I'll post this here:

http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v248/Tropico/brasmall.jpg

[TheCorpulent1]

Hehe, boobies. :up:

[AnnoyingSilence]

heh heh... he said boobies..

[wiegeabo]

So that's:

12 definitely returning (wiegeabo, AS, prime, Corp., Harlekin, Leaguer, JB, LadyVader, Nightwing, Union Jack, X, Roughneck)
1 possibly returning (Tropico)
3 possibly not returning (XFanTim, Gilrean, Ahura)
2 definitely not returing (Guyverjay, JH)
3 ownerless

= 4 teams unaccounted for
(Jason, Franklin, mikeyh89, yeneald)

[X]

My birthday was yesterday. Hee Haw. :(

[TheCorpulent1]

Happy belated. :up:

[X]

Thanks. :)

[XFanTim]

Yeah, Happy Belated B-Day, X. :up:

[X]

Thanks again. :)

[wiegeabo]

Boy, looking at that Gotham division...
What happens if, after next week, all the tie-breakers are tied?

[Tropico]

and thanks for continuing your traditional buffoonery:)

Btw since you are looking, name the issue:o

http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v248/Tropico/Validus1.jpg
http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v248/Tropico/Validus2.jpg

LOSH # 78. Let me guess, it doesn't count because in a later issue is when Imra tries to do it again and gets feedback. 'Cause, of course, her comment about some field (that wasn't there before) can't possibly be something that Tharok put on him. But, that's cool! Because in the panels I posted, Ayla didn't have much effect with her electricity but in a later comic Brainy used prototypes of Gath's mech arm and brought Validus and the rest of the FF to their knees with electricity. So he's vulnerable to electricity then, right? You know, just continuing my traditional bufoonery as expected. :D:up:

[X]

Why even bring up Post Zero Hour Validus? I can think of three instances just of the top of my head where is was explicitly stated that Saturn Girl could do nothing to Validus. Once, right after The Crisis, she read some surface thoughts, and I think she put two and two together and figured out Validus was her son.

[Tropico]

Because the example they gave was Post ZH. GL Validus' appearance was post ZH. It could go either way depending on what is convenient for the user, but then the opponent could go the other way. With the Guyv, Ahura and Mr. X saying otherwise I guess I'm outnumbered. It still doesn't change MY assesment of the character.

[X]

I'm not siding with anyone, I've just got a particuler disdain for Post ZH Validus.

Can't really gauge how powerful the GL Validus was anyhow, his personal power that is. Who's to say if he was the original Darkseid creation or a lesser weapon made to combat the Sun Eater?

[wiegeabo]

Updated magic numbers

Only one division to go....

[JewishHobbit]

Because the example they gave was Post ZH. GL Validus' appearance was post ZH. It could go either way depending on what is convenient for the user, but then the opponent could go the other way. With the Guyv, Ahura and Mr. X saying otherwise I guess I'm outnumbered. It still doesn't change MY assesment of the character.

Heh,.. that's the first I've heard X called "Mr. X" in a long time.

[Tropico]

Well, "mister" is a title of respect after all. It's very much like the "Don" we use in Spanish (not like the italian mafia Don) as a title of respect, it makes you feel old but at least it's well intentioned. :D

[Johnny Blaze]

Hahahahahahahaha
Having some fun bumping up a bunch of threads, Trop? :D

[Tropico]

"It's a dirty job, but someone's got to do it."
Aaannd my post count is kinda wimpy for all the time I've been here. I'm trying to stray away from spamming, which I'm pretty much avoiding except for this reply.:o

[Guyverjay]

http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v248/Tropico/Validus1.jpg
http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v248/Tropico/Validus2.jpg

LOSH # 78. Let me guess, it doesn't count because in a later issue is when Imra tries to do it again and gets feedback. 'Cause, of course, her comment about some field (that wasn't there before) can't possibly be something that Tharok put on him. But, that's cool! Because in the panels I posted, Ayla didn't have much effect with her electricity but in a later comic Brainy used prototypes of Gath's mech arm and brought Validus and the rest of the FF to their knees with electricity. So he's vulnerable to electricity then, right? You know, just continuing my traditional bufoonery as expected. :D:up:


Lol you're using the issue straight before the one I posted?:D

I was hoping for somthing else:(

1) Validus wasn't hurt telepathically like YOU said. He was supposedly SCARED of the image and FAINTED. Thats isn't the same thing as having your brain psionically shut down or regressed to that of bacteria

2) The only reason Validus went down was because it was all a set up from the damn beginning. Imra tried it again and went down. Even IF Tharok placed some extra field there (which has NEVER been stated at all), the fact of the matter would be that that field would ALWAYS be there under normal circumstances. Of course on the flip side you could say that Tharok just switched off the mental protection that is naturally there to allow him to be captured in the first place. You haven't proven a damn thing. The only thing around Vals head is pink energy in that panel (the same colour as his mental lightning)

Why dont you read Legionnaires annual #2 from 1986 or LOSH v2 #18 for some examples of Validus not being brought down telepathcially (not doubt X can rattle off some more examples)

Yeah I used the WEAKEST known version of Val (post ZH) in my panel example (first example I could think of). But you know what? that isn't even the version I'm using (thank god)

As for Validus supposedly being brought to his knees by electricity? You're talking about LOSH 120. Maybe you have something wrong with your eyes balls but Val is very much on his feet fist swinging. He was just blinded and confused by the light. Besides you DO know that electricity can have varying degrees of Voltage right? Considering how they been hit by enough raw power to black out the entire out post, I'm not surprised he was dazed

[Tropico]

Well, it's the one I found before getting tired of searching through all my comics for a point that I know you guys are gonna whine about anyway. I elaborated on my previous post instead of just posting the pic because I knew what you were going to answer and, lo and behold, I got it right. At least Mr.X is sensible enough to realize that GL Validus isn't necessarily as strong as you want him to be since his cameo was such a small one. Like I said, it's 3 people that are against my argument, I'm sure the DTL'ers realize that and give validity to your points and not mine (it's a bufoon's opinion anyway).

[Guyverjay]

Isn't The nail story GL val appeared in PRE zero hour?

[X]

Isn't The nail story GL val appeared in PRE zero hour?

No idea. I want to say The Nail took place a bit after Zero Hour, but I have nothing to back that up.

Regardless, it could still be full blown 60's Validus with a GL ring for all we know, it is an alternative reality. Hell, look at Hypertime and the like, even after The Crisis PC Superboy and Krypto have showed up.

[X]

Heh,.. that's the first I've heard X called "Mr. X" in a long time.

Heh, people used to just call me X back then too. So, I just went with it I guess. :confused:

[XFanTim]

Moving this here so we don't keep bumping last week's threads . . .
What the hell is up with all the non-DTLers? DBella, Doc Ock, sava, all voted against me (or tried to) despite the fact that X did no writeup and freely admits that his team didn't deserve a win this week. Hobbit, you weren't campaigning on another forum or something, were you? Because I'm really flabbergasted by why they'd all vote that way.

I just wish I'd made it back in time to vote. (I had to go out of town unexpectedly this weekend.) Originally, I'd figured it wouldn't have mattered, because I probably would have voted for the Odd Alliance as well as myself . . . but seeing your approach, I probably would have gone the other way and canceled you out. At any rate, at least in your case I understand your motivation -- what they hell is up with those other three?!
Good question. I absolutely don't deserve a single post, hell, I just got involved in the DTL again not too long ago.

Maybe it's because I've been in community quite a bit and they know me, I don't know.
Yeah, maybe so. But if they're voting purely on the basis of who the owner is, I don't think they should be allowed to vote at all.

Come to think of it, I'm inclined to say that next season voting should be limited to DTL owners and former owners. (Although I haven't got a clue if any of those three were owners last year.) Non-DTLers don't necessarily know what is or isn't an acceptible reason for voting for someone, and they probably aren't following all the discussion of rules, etc. (meaning they also don't know what is or isn't allowed as far as people's writeups are concerned.)

In this case they probably didn't even know that X had only just reassumed control of that team mere days ago, and hadn't even actually selected that lineup himself. So they were voting for someone who literally did nothing that week (and had no intention of trying to win the match, and who in fact didn't even vote for himself), over someone who picked a lineup and wrote an actual writeup. And I can only assume it's because they're clueless of the situation (in which case they shouldn't be voting), because otherwise that's just insane.

Honestly, I'd be making a lot bigger deal of this if I thought there was a chance Hobbit would end up ahead of me (for those who haven't been paying attention, we're currently tied in the standings and in every tie break), but given that he's playing LadyVader this week and I'm playing an ownerless team, I'm not too worried. But still, having people vote against me when I was completely unopposed for no apparent reason really sticks in my craw. :mad:

[Tropico]

From now on...
No new battle threads will go up while the old ones are still being posted in and hanging around the top of the main page. When the matches are over and the congrats or what not have been said, let them go. If you have anything else to say, do it in the Discussion thread. So, from now on, the next week will be delayed if the previous week's threads are still being posted in when they shouldn't be.

Owners doing it just to be an ass or doing it on purpose to delay the coming week a few days will be suspended for one week without a warning.
If it happens around playoff time and the owner in question isn't in the playoffs, well...I'm sure I'll be able to think up some good, creative punishments for them on top of being suspended for the first two weeks of next season. :)

PLEASE READ!!

[AnnoyingSilence]

so what are you saying trop?

[Johnny Blaze]

He's saying to stop posting in the old battle threads.

[AnnoyingSilence]

why

[AnnoyingSilence]

Just Kidding Jb.

You didn't ask for anything? :confused:I thought you was talking to me for the Despero info.

If hes in Jla #1, YAY i got it:)

[AnnoyingSilence]

If/When JH drops from the DTL(or even if he doesn't) I'll be the foreman for Marvel ranking. Seeing hows when i'm finally get up to pace with the present stuff I will have read alot of JH's comics that hes never had the chance to:)

I still got a ways tho, I'm about 150 away from the end of "The Twelve". They go fast tho, even after being delayed all the present DC stuff, buying and reading back issues(Crisis on Infinite Earths presently), Some Present marvel titles(Supreme Power, Exiles, Avenegers and Ult. X-men) and what not.

[AnnoyingSilence]

not that al that matters, i just took a look at the stack today and got to thinkin...

[Tropico]

not that al that matters, i just took a look at the stack today and got to thinkin...

...that your posts are bordering on spam?:D

[AnnoyingSilence]

well, no ones on when i am, so i talk to myself:(

2-4am Est

[AnnoyingSilence]

You saying you could easily do what Proctor did in the same situation? I doubt it. It didn't need genius level intelligence, but it requires some kind of smarts, tactics, strategy and the like.Heck ya i could. All you have to do is gather people, manipulate someminds and then drive someone insane that you have a psi link to. simple as that.

[Harlekin]

Yeah, I'd like to see you do the same. Manipulating people takes more cunning than you're giving Proctor credit for. And with driving someone crazy I'm not talking about annoying them with some whistful tune, but driving to the point of killing and attacking teammates.

[AnnoyingSilence]

I'm not saying hes a retard! Mostly what I'm pointing out is if Ute had given him the info of EVERY SINGLE CHARACTER, why would Proctor keep'm, he wouldn't? In other words, the info never made it to the ship.

[TheCorpulent1]

I'm pretty sure Proctor didn't have a gann-josin with 616 Sersi. He had one with his own Sersi, whom he eventually killed, leaving him with the semi-Eternal powers the gann-josin provides. He then used those powers to subtlely work 616 Sersi's mind into insanity. This is the mind of a telepath, remember? He manipulated her in any way he felt like; that takes skill.

Stop trying to downplay Proctor's tactical skills. People have been labeled good strategists for less.

[TheCorpulent1]

I'm not saying hes a retard! Mostly what I'm pointing out is if Ute had given him the info of EVERY SINGLE CHARACTER, why would Proctor keep'm, he wouldn't? In other words, the info never made it to the ship.
Um... he's a Watcher. They're useful for more than just gathering information on people. Ute provided him with advanced technology, including his armor and some of the weapons he provided his Gatherers with, and I think he had a hand in powering the dimension-hopping ship. And, of course, there's always the bragging rights that go with having a pet Watcher. ;)

[JewishHobbit]

Okay now if I'm not mistaken there will be a break after this week right? Meaning the first round of the tournament won't be next Thursday but the Thursday following?

I hope this is true because I'll be out of town from next Thursday to next Sunday and I'd hate to be knocked out like that!