Dream Team League (Discussion)

[Movies205]

Originally posted by Johnny Blaze
That actually sounds like a decent idea.
Next week will go like this:
4 threads with two match ups in each will be posted.
In those 4 threads no voting will take place. Only discussion and general BSing and such.
Then two days later I'll open a one thread specifically for voting on all of the matches.
This thread will last for two more days.

:up: Sounds good... I demand the system to be called The Movies205 Vote Master 2000!tm. :mad:

[TheCorpulent1]

Originally posted by Movies205
Whatever my formula works best, and people can stop whining about people not reading things:o
Well, it is kind of annoying when people like Deathstroke are around.

[Movies205]

Originally posted by TheCorpulent1
Well, it is kind of annoying when people like Deathstroke are around.

True don't get me wrong I put in work into my lines too but this is to be expected:o

[Johnny Blaze]

Originally posted by Movies205
:up: Sounds good... I demand the system to be called The Movies205 Vote Master 2000!:mad: You can demand all you want, but you didn't put in a coyright or a trademark did you?

Therefore, the system will be called The Johnny Blaze Vote Master 3000tm. :D :p

[Movies205]

Originally posted by Johnny Blaze
You can demand all you want, but you didn't put in a coyright or a trademark did you?

Therefore, the system will be called The Johnny Blaze Vote Master 3000tm. :D :p

NOOO YOU BASTARD!:mad: :mad: But I've edited my posts... and I'm going sue your ass:mad:

[Johnny Blaze]

Go right ahead. You edited your's in at 3:42 PM EST. I posted mine at 3:41 PM EST, so the courts would side with me. :) :D
BWAhahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahaha...

[Movies205]

Originally posted by Johnny Blaze
Go right ahead. You edited your's in at 3:42 PM EST. I posted mine at 3:41 PM EST, so the courts would side with me. :) :D
BWAhahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahaha...

no but there's proof I created it first! Give me what's rightfully mine or I sue you! :mad:

[Johnny Blaze]

As I said, go right ahead. The courts will side with me. :D :p
:cues the diabolical laughter:
Hahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahaha hahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahaha hahahahahahahahahahaaaaaaaaaaaa...

[Movies205]

Originally posted by Johnny Blaze
As I said, go right ahead. The courts will side with me. :D :p
:cues the diabolical laughter:
Hahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahaha hahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahaha hahahahahahahahahahaaaaaaaaaaaa...

No they won't not if I go with the law offices of D'Olivera and morgan:mad:

[Johnny Blaze]

Originally posted by Movies205
No they won't not if I go with the law offices of D'Olivera and morgan:mad: Tell ya what. You can have it back for the low price of two cases of Busch and a bag of Peanut M&Ms. :)

[Movies205]

Originally posted by Johnny Blaze
Tell ya what. You can have it back for the low price of two cases of Busch and a bag of Peanut M&Ms. :)

Chang it to one case of Busch another of bud lite, and a bag of skittles, and you got a deal

[Johnny Blaze]

I accept the beer change, but not the Skittles.
It's peanut M&Ms or no trade. :mad:

[Movies205]

Originally posted by Johnny Blaze
I accept the beer change, but not the Skittles.
It's peanut M&Ms or no trade. :mad:

You drive a hard bargain but I accept!!

[Johnny Blaze]

Deal!

[TheCorpulent1]

... and peace reigned once again in DTL land. :cool:

[Deathstroke]

Originally posted by TheCorpulent1
Well, it is kind of annoying when people like Deathstroke are around.

Do you mind explaining what exactly I did to annoy you?

[TheCorpulent1]

Disregarded people's explanations of their matches and made utterly ridiculous claims like Genis being more than a match for both Rom and the Hulk, when in reality Genis couldn't even take the Hulk by himself in his own comic.

[Deathstroke]

Maybe Peter David didn't want people to accuse him of Starlin-izing Genis. Genis has the vaunted "Cosmic Awareness", if he didn't want to be hit by the Hulk there would be no way the Hulk could even stand a chance.

[TheCorpulent1]

Yet another blatantly wrong statement. Busiek and David have both written Genis with the Cosmic Awareness and they've both had him get hit plenty of times. Cosmic Awareness acts as a very wide-range precognition, allowing Marv to sense possible problems in the universe, and as a database of sorts, giving him insights into other beings and possible futures they might have. It is in no way an early warning system within a battle like Spider-Man's spider-sense.

[Deathstroke]

Sorry, I stand corrected. All hail the great and powerful TheCorpulent1!!!!

[TheCorpulent1]

Thank you, I appreciate sarcasm. :cool:

I wasn't trying to offend you or anything, just asking that you read people's descriptions of the fight and learn some more about the characters before voting. Keep it fair for all parties.

[Deathstroke]

No offense taken, I'm a professional comedian so I know how to handle criticism. I did read everyone's posts and was mis-informed in regards to how "Cosmic Awareness" worked. I had read somewhere that it was the Cosmic equivalent to the Spidey-sense. I'll have to see if I can find where I read that. I have since retracted my Genis thought, but I didn't change which team I thought would win. I'm trying not to go in-depth with my theories about why I think a particular team would win because I don't want people to know the weaknesses I plan to expose when my team faces them.

[Guyverjay]

Originally posted by Deathstroke
No offense taken, I'm a professional comedian...

I'll say:o

[Movies205]

Originally posted by Guyverjay
I'll say:o

You got to love Guyver's dry wit:D

[Movies205]

May I make another suggestion to keep things organized

Debating Threads go up on Fridays
Sunday Voting Thread goes up
Tuesday Voting thread ends
Wed-Thursday= Trades and what not.

[X]

Some people just don't seem to get it. You don't vote on who you think would win, you listen to each person plead their case, and vote for the one who did it better, more convincingly.

[Deathstroke]

Originally posted by TheCorpulent1
Cosmic Awareness acts as a very wide-range precognition, allowing Marv to sense possible problems in the universe, and as a database of sorts, giving him insights into other beings and possible futures they might have. It is in no way an early warning system within a battle like Spider-Man's spider-sense.

According to this website, http://www.marveldirectory.com/individuals/c/captainmarveliii.htm , "Genis and Rick Jones also possesses Cosmic Awareness which allows them to sense the presence of danger on a universal level. As a result of their Cosmic Awareness, both Rick Jones and Genis can perceive objects and individuals, presence of beings, and cosmic threats that are cloaked by invisibility or illusions throughout the universe."

Wouldn't that mean that Genis would sense the presence of the Hulk and any danger he could inflict on him, thus allowing Genis to prepare for it?

[Movies205]

Originally posted by Deathstroke
According to this website, http://www.marveldirectory.com/individuals/c/captainmarveliii.htm , "Genis and Rick Jones also possesses Cosmic Awareness which allows them to sense the presence of danger on a universal level. As a result of their Cosmic Awareness, both Rick Jones and Genis can perceive objects and individuals, presence of beings, and cosmic threats that are cloaked by invisibility or illusions throughout the universe."

Wouldn't that mean that Genis would sense the presence of the Hulk and any danger he could inflict on him, thus allowing Genis to prepare for it?

No it only means they can sense invisible beings:o They see it on a cosmic level not every little thing:o

[X]

My god man, you're not supposed to be deciding who ****ing wins based on what you think is going on. You LISTEN to both sides plead their case, wait a couple of days, then vote. Whoever does it better, they earn a vote. I've put a **** load of effort into this entire thing, from getting it all off the ground and running to helping everyone else out, on top of what I've had to do for myself. People like you suck the fun out of it, something that was supposed to be fun and light heartedly compeitive. "Hey, I like to make assumptions" and say stupid **** like "Mr. X has a gay crush on Starlin" after he made a perfectly valid point about the man.

[TheCorpulent1]

Originally posted by Deathstroke
According to this website, http://www.marveldirectory.com/individuals/c/captainmarveliii.htm , "Genis and Rick Jones also possesses Cosmic Awareness which allows them to sense the presence of danger on a universal level. As a result of their Cosmic Awareness, both Rick Jones and Genis can perceive objects and individuals, presence of beings, and cosmic threats that are cloaked by invisibility or illusions throughout the universe."

Wouldn't that mean that Genis would sense the presence of the Hulk and any danger he could inflict on him, thus allowing Genis to prepare for it?
In theory, yes. But in practice, Genis can prepare all he wants, a fist the size of a midget packing more than 100 tons of power behind it is gonna hurt him regardless of what he does. Having Cosmic Awareness lets him know "Hey, the Hulk is sneaking up on me!" not "ok, the Hulk is gonna throw a right hook, then a jab with the left, then attempt an uppercut..." Like I said, it's on a much broader level.

[X]

Don't even bother, like it's going to matter one way or another. He already made his idiotic assumptions, not even reading who posted what. Not to mention how early he voted.

[Guyverjay]

Combine cosmic awareness with spider-sense and you've got a winner:D

[Deathstroke]

Originally posted by Mr. X
My god man, you're not supposed to be deciding who ****ing wins based on what you think is going on. You LISTEN to both sides plead their case, wait a couple of days, then vote. Whoever does it better, they earn a vote. I've put a **** load of effort into this entire thing, from getting it all off the ground and running to helping everyone else out, on top of what I've had to do for myself. People like you suck the fun out of it, something that was supposed to be fun and light heartedly compeitive. "Hey, I like to make assumptions" and say stupid **** like "Mr. X has a gay crush on Starlin" after he made a perfectly valid point about the man.

Take your Prozac and lie down for a while. Johnny Blaze stated in the first post, if you bothered to read it, that the owners didn't need to state their case. I posted my votes long after you made your case.

You really need to calm down, pal.

[X]

You just don't get it, jackass. You came in here LAST SECOND. I've been here since practially the the start working on almost everything. It's not fun or easy. But the DTL SHOULD have been. Fun in a simple way.

Half the people didn't even read Blaze's first post in those threads. Most of them votes before day two had even started, some were arguring for one team even though they shoulden't have. I know people don't HAVE to argue their side, but almost everyone is, and thats how the votes are supposed to be decided. It just meant that if you don't want to discuss, you don't. Technically, the person who does should have a much better chance of winning, but with people like you if doesen't matter. Trust me, I'm not the only one you've aggrivated.

[Deathstroke]

Originally posted by Mr. X
You just don't get it, jackass. You came in here LAST SECOND. I've been here since practially the the start working on almost everything. It's not fun or easy. But the DTL SHOULD have been. Fun in a simple way.

Half the people didn't even read Blaze's first post in those threads. Most of them votes before day two had even started, some were arguring for one team even though they shoulden't have. I know people don't HAVE to argue their side, but almost everyone is, and thats how the votes are supposed to be decided. It just meant that if you don't want to discuss, you don't. Technically, the person who does should have a much better chance of winning, but with people like you if doesen't matter. Trust me, I'm not the only one you've aggrivated.

That's right, I forgot this is Mr. X's league not Johnny Blaze's. The only reason you're up in arms against me is because I didn't vote for your team, which is the main reason I think it should be voted by polls not postings. How much do you want to bet that I never get a single vote from you? The fact is I don't think your team would win this fight, that doesn't mean I don't think your team will win other battles.

You really need to chill out brother.

[X]

Heh, I've done just as much as Blaze, one way or another. I can't even begin to think about how many times I've chit chatted with people about all of this. I pretty much taught Guyverjay everything there is to know about the leauge, and helped him with his tean. I've spent a lot of time with Corp as well, Union Jack, Blaze, Movies205, and so on. You can ask them yourselves. Not to mention my DTL Update thread, all of the things that have gotten done because of ideas I've thought up, and all the help I've given people in the DTL threads.

I will vote for you if you plead your case well enough and make a good impression. And it doesen't matter if you think my team would lose, listen to what I've said, counteracted probably what you were thinking in the process. I made 100 very good points in the 3 posts I mad talking about my team and Darko's.

And how I'm acting has nothing to do with you voting against my team, it's how you did it. Just because of Captain Marvel or whatever. You seemingly didn't even read my post, which should of been very convincing.

And I also originally wanted this to be done via polls or PM voting, has a ton of advantages of the votes being posted.

[X]

One little thing that could improve everything... In your first post Blaze, for the set threads, include the owners name next to the team names. Like So and So (Owner: ) vs. whoever. Makes things a little bit easier to go by...

[Union Jack]

in this tourny do the character get to bring weapons?
or is it just a one on one fight???

[X]

They can use their resources, like Batman can use his money. You could have him rig something up, take into consideration it's only 24 hours so it can't be anything insanly complicated.

[wiegeabo]

Originally posted by Movies205
I've return if not to be leaving shortly... I can help with all of the above except art... Give me a job, Wie and I'll get right on it!

Thanks for the offer, Movies. We still need work done on the history of the tournaments and the league, as well as League rules.

And now that I think about it, it would be nice if we can start putting together a list of commonly used characters, there strenghts/weaknesses, and any websites that their information can be found at.

Take on as much or as little as you want. Any contribution will help. That goes for everyone. Thanks again.

[wiegeabo]

JB, just for clarification, what is the new voting procedure. From what I gathered we'll now get 2 days of discussion, and 3 or 4 days of voting (although I could be completely wrong about that).

If this is so, I'll throw out a suggestion that during the first day, only the team managers be allowed to post their strategies, opinions, and rebuttles (although anyone can make comments on what they liked or disliked). This would give everyone a clear and easy to find idea on what the owners think. The second day would be thrown open so everyone can put in their two cents about the matches.

[wiegeabo]

Originally posted by Union Jack
in this tourny do the character get to bring weapons?
or is it just a one on one fight???

I imagine that each team gets a base of operations with which to preapre, but that they must meet on some distant neutral battlefield to make the fight fair.

[TheCorpulent1]

Actually, I think only team managers are supposed to post thoughts/strategies/whatever on the fights themselves at all. Other people are supposed to just come in and vote, maybe make a comment or two on whether they liked the strategies or not. I don't think they're supposed to post information about the fights or the characters, since it's supposed to be a competition between the two teams and their managers' respective knowledge of them. That's what I was thinking, anyway.

[wiegeabo]

Sounds good to me. It would cut down on the chaos.

[X]

Yup, the matches are betweem the two fighting teams. Anyone else getting involved is pretty much forbidden.

[X]

Just to let everyone know, I'll be updating my DTL Update thread throughout the season. I'll change the titles of the posts to week two starting line up's and so on, to avoid confusion and what not. Also keep the roster up to date and bump it up occasionly. I'll also have a mod delete excess posts every once in a while. Just wanted to let everyone know. :)

[X]

Okay, one other thing. What's going on about the whole Saturn Girl/Petunia deal? Just need to know so I can update my DTL thread in a couple of days, when we have the one day break.

[wiegeabo]

That should help us a lot. Thanks X.

[Johnny Blaze]

Saturn Girl will be bumped up to Uber. Aunty P will have to switch her roster around accordingly.

And people are supposed to vote for the team they feel would win. Not the better debater. The whole point of the strategies and what not is to sway their votes and give everyone a good look at your team. Make them see why and/or how your team would pull off a W.

[Deathstroke]

Originally posted by Johnny Blaze
And people are supposed to vote for the team they feel would win. Not the better debater. The whole point of the strategies and what not is to sway their votes and give everyone a good look at your team. Make them see why and/or how your team would pull off a W.

Sounds good to me.

[Thanos]

Somehow I get the feeling that X and Deathstroke should be in the same division (a la, the Redskins and Cowboys or Yankees and Red Sox.)

- Thanos

[Johnny Blaze]

Heh, maybe there should be some realignment after the season ends? :D

[X]

Well, if everyone in one division agrees, we should "trade" said person out of the division. :D ;)

I'm pretty happy as of now with things, they're balanced and what not.

[Franklin Richards]

Originally posted by Johnny Blaze
Saturn Girl will be bumped up to Uber. Aunty P will have to switch her roster around accordingly.

I want Saturn Girl to be "Grandfathered" in this year... And no other changes be made to characters classification AFTER the season has started. If she is going to be upgraded... then upgrade her NEXT season. I've had her forever and no one said CRAP. Come on...

btw... I'm just trying to keep a character in DC that I actually LIKE and believe me when it comes to DC their aren't many. If you feel that this is too unfair then I understand but it is a little unfair for you guys NOT to look at my team in advance. I have had her for a month or two. (How long ago was the draft? :D) In cases like King Thor we were complaining about him from the beginning and Jack finally logged back on a week before the season started. I'm not gonna lose it if she still gets upgraded but I really don't wanna lose her. Week One has started. Rosters are set. If you wanna change her NEXT season... then so be it. But it seems to me that I'm being picked on a little for having a good draft strategy. Mind Control is not a power that immediately makes you Uber. The Puppet Master can take over people... Is he Uber? There should almost be a litmus test like... "Can you survive in a vacuum?"... I dunno. I'm not being sour grapes... I'm just trying to get the debate going. Where IS the bar set? Is Dr. Doom Uber just because of his potential? I dunno... but I KNOW that I want Saturn Girl to keep the classification that she had when the season officially started. Can you honestly say that Saturn Girl is in the same league as Superman? We can't be in a constant state of flux once the season starts.

:thing: :doom: :thing:

[TheCorpulent1]

I think everything should go by potential. Obviously some people have tons of power but don't use it to its best effect. That matters for naught here, though, since I'm sure everyone will be attempting to exploit their characters' powers to their limits.

Case in point: Masterson Thor. He couldn't fight his way out of a paper bag, but he's got all the power of Thor at his command, so I'm sure Deathstroke is gonna be using him as basically a Thor stand-in, even though the real Thor's been shown beating the living crap out of him with little difficulty.

The fact is that Saturn Girl has the ability utterly control minds, stacked on top of other powers. And not just one mind, but SIX, without too much difficulty. Plus there's telepathy, telekinesis, thoughtcasting, illusions, etc. She seems to be roughly on par with Xavier, Jean (minus the Phoenix Force), and J'onn in terms of psychic power. And Xavier and Jean are already considered ubers.

I do agree that maybe we should wait for the next season to change character classes, though. It does disrupt all of the strategies you may have come up with already, and forces you to do a quick sub that you can't plan out as well on short notice. Maybe you could just kind of handicap Saturn Girl for the duration of the season. Keep her from using the full potential of her power, maybe limit her to controlling one mind with certain limitations (i.e. training against psionic attacks, strong willpowers, etc.). Nudge was permitted as a regular only after I explained that she couldn't completely control guys like John Stewart and others with strong willpower and mental training. And Saturn Girl would even have a leg up on Nudge, since she's got the full array of psychic powers on top of the mind control, and she's not a defenseless puppy without someone under her control.

[Guyverjay]

Saturn girl can even control artificial and technological minds. So people like Vision and Ultron also go down to her power

[X]

Well, she's definitely uber then, and I'm pretty much speaking for Blaze when i say you're going to have to find a replacement. We're going to have a two day break after week one is done, so you can do it then. I can help you out if need be, I have a ton of DC's Who's Who and so on.

[Deathstroke]

I think you need to accept the fact that Saturn Girl is uber.

[TheCorpulent1]

Originally posted by Mr. X
Well, she's definitely uber then, and I'm pretty much speaking for Blaze when i say you're going to have to find a replacement. We're going to have a two day break after week one is done, so you can do it then. I can help you out if need be, I have a ton of DC's Who's Who and so on.
Or you could be like me and just sift through website after website of utterly USELESS sites that don't list good descriptions of DC characters' power levels looking for a female psychic character. God, I must've wasted like 3 or 4 hours before I finally stumbled on Katalia. :(

Marvel fans are really spoiled by the sheer number of excellent online character resources.

[Guyverjay]

bwahahaha saturn girls power is also mine:mad:

[X]

Originally posted by TheCorpulent1
Or you could be like me and just sift through website after website of utterly USELESS sites that don't list good descriptions of DC characters' power levels looking for a female psychic character. God, I must've wasted like 3 or 4 hours before I finally stumbled on Katalia. :(

Marvel fans are really spoiled by the sheer number of excellent online character resources.

Heh, finding good, comprehensive DC info, especially if it's on a character that isn't very mainstream, is near impossible. I've ripped out what little hair I have several times. :mad: :D ;)

Originally posted by Guyverjay
bwahahaha saturn girls power is also mine:mad:

What in the hell are you talking about? :confused: :o :D

[Guyverjay]

Originally posted by Mr. X
What in the hell are you talking about? :confused: :o :D

You don't know?:confused:

[TheCorpulent1]

Saturn Girl is among the people Composite Man has mimicked. So to speak.

[X]

Ah, I see. Thanks for clearing that up. Does he have 100% of her power though?

[TheCorpulent1]

So Guyver says, along with 100% of several other Legionnaires' powers. Which I think is pushing into too uber territory given our new, King Thor-less guidelines.

[Guyverjay]

You didn't think so until I revealed saturn girls powers:o

Besides there is some proof that he may not be as powerful as saturn girl. (Of course I won't reveal what that is:o)

[X]

Well, I didn't think much of anything because I don't know anything about him or anybody else in legion or whatever. Using so many powers in conjunction, even if they're near 100%, meh. Might have to be looked at in the future. Just don't abuse the character (I don't think you will, just saying) and everything should be cool.

[Guyverjay]

One power he hasn't got is super strength:up:

[X]

How is he duability wise, in general?

[Guyverjay]

I cannot reveal that:p

It isn't that hard to figure out though

[X]

I bet. After looking for 4 straight days I might find some half assed site with some info on him. :rolleyes: :o

[Guyverjay]

Yeah finding info on the guy is a HUGE pain in the ass. He does have a precrsis counter part though called ther Composite superman. He was even MORE powerful since he had the powers of EVERY member including superboy

[X]

Hmmm, okay. Looks like I'm going to be doing some more reading. :)

I still kind of think you should of kept Zod, but ah well. :)

[TheCorpulent1]

I'm surprised no one picked Black Adam up, myself. The guy is empowered by the Egyptian gods and he's taken on the entire JSA all by his lonesome. He lost, but then, the JSA is one of the most powerful teams in either universe. And he didn't lose by much, regardless.

[X]

Same. I mean, he should of been one of the first people to get picked up, one way or another. What kind of sucks is how many awesome characters that are in this thing, and half of them are under the tuitelage of people who are going to simply let them go to waste. :o

[TheCorpulent1]

Well, when the drafts for the next season start up and we get to take extra ubers, maybe some of them will get picked up. I know who I'm going for already.

[X]

I already have three set in stone characters in mind. :)

Take into account all of them can be Marvel or DC, up to you.

[TheCorpulent1]

The guy I want is set in stone. I'll have to keep looking into my regulars, though. I'm not sure what else I want for my team.

[Franklin Richards]

Originally posted by Deathstroke
I think you need to accept the fact that Saturn Girl is uber.

Hey... trainee... get off my back, peter puffer. I've accepted the fact that she's bad. I said I wanted a "Grandfather" clause for her this season... or did you skip over that part? Now go back to annoying Mr. X before I start in on your mental mastubatory arse. I want to freeze ALL classifications till the end of the season or we're gonna be arguing about it Week 7.. and the next week. So accept THAT, Shaftstroke the Fornicator.
:cool:

:thing: :doom: :thing:

[Guyverjay]

bwhahahahhahahah Deathstroke got TOLD:up:

[Deathstroke]

Originally posted by Aunt Petunia
Hey... trainee... get off my back, peter puffer. I've accepted the fact that she's bad. I said I wanted a "Grandfather" clause for her this season... or did you skip over that part? Now go back to annoying Mr. X before I start in on your mental mastubatory arse. I want to freeze ALL classifications till the end of the season or we're gonna be arguing about it Week 7.. and the next week. So accept THAT, Shaftstroke the Fornicator.
:cool:

:thing: :doom: :thing:

Wow. That hurts.

Is it true that you consider yourself an actress? Because the last time I checked, getting paid to bang chicks was called prostitution. So get your girlfriend to quit munching on your rug, shut off the camera, call your dad and tell him you aren't making anymore videos for him and your uncles to jerk off to, and the next time your brother plugs your ass do me a favor and moan a "Deathstroke, you animal" in there for me.

[TheCorpulent1]

Hokay, moving right along from the trash talk...

Here is Donnie Darko's team: the Deadly Viper Assassination Squad. And just to prove how generous a guy I am, I drew it anyway, even thought I hated Kill Bill. :p
http://img24.photobucket.com/albums/v71/thecorpulent1/Dream%20Team/donniedarko.jpg

Yeah... so, um... I've been really lazy lately. That's why this one took so long. That's really the only reason. Laziness and reading too many comics to gather information for future matches...

[Jason C C]

Wow that is some great art there

[DBM]

Originally posted by TheCorpulent1
I'm surprised no one picked Black Adam up, myself. The guy is empowered by the Egyptian gods and he's taken on the entire JSA all by his lonesome. He lost, but then, the JSA is one of the most powerful teams in either universe. And he didn't lose by much, regardless.

I thought about picking him up. But really he's not that versatile in regards to powers. Mostly strength, speed and durability which everyone can come up with a way to counter. I always try to find characters with a wide range of abilites.


Originally posted by Deathstroke
Is it true that you consider yourself an actress? Because the last time I checked, getting paid to bang chicks was called prostitution. So get your girlfriend to quit munching on your rug, shut off the camera,

Having seen Auntie P's pictures, I have to admit that I'd buy that video.

Just Kidding. Maybe. :o

[TheCorpulent1]

Originally posted by DBM
I thought about picking him up. But really he's not that versatile in regards to powers. Mostly strength, speed and durability which everyone can come up with a way to counter. I always try to find characters with a wide range of abilites.
That's what stopped me too, actually. But still, there are a lot of Superman characters on here anyway. Superman himself, Hyperion, etc. Black Adam's just as strong and fast as they are, plus he's got the advantage of combat and strategy experience from the time of ancient Egypt and the wisdom of... er... some wise Egyptian god. And, like I said, he faced the JSA alone and didn't do too badly. I'd have picked Black Adam before Hyperion, m'self.

[DBM]

Originally posted by TheCorpulent1
That's what stopped me too, actually. But still, there are a lot of Superman characters on here anyway. Superman himself, Hyperion, etc. Black Adam's just as strong and fast as they are, plus he's got the advantage of combat and strategy experience from the time of ancient Egypt and the wisdom of... er... some wise Egyptian god. And, like I said, he faced the JSA alone and didn't do too badly. I'd have picked Black Adam before Hyperion, m'self.

I agree on the experience and wisdom. I really wanted someone with some mid to long range attack abilites so I went with M'Onel, with the heat vision.

[TheCorpulent1]

Yeah, I went for a tradeoff. Ares has more experience and combat knowledge than literally anyone else and Sersi is hell on Earth from long-range.

[Thrall]

it took me to long to raed threw all that. is ther a chance that i can play next yer?

[Thanos]

Originally posted by Thrall
it took me to long to raed threw all that. is ther a chance that i can play next yer?

Johnny B, are you planning on expanding next year? And if so, are you going to be redrafting, because if you are I may also be interested in joining again. I would have stayed this year but I felt bad for Deathstroke, he seemed like he really wanted to play.

Also, allow me to add to my early comment about X and Deathstroke being placed in the same division, I believe that Aunt Petunia should also be placed in the same division as them. Did anyone notice that they both are on Probationary Status? :)

- Thanos

[Guyverjay]

Probationary Status?

who? When?, Where? and Why?

Oh yeah I need a good female regular, any recomendations via PM would be appreciated:)

[Donnie Darko]

Originally posted by TheCorpulent1
Hokay, moving right along from the trash talk...

Here is Donnie Darko's team: the Deadly Viper Assassination Squad. And just to prove how generous a guy I am, I drew it anyway, even thought I hated Kill Bill. :p
http://img24.photobucket.com/albums/v71/thecorpulent1/Dream%20Team/donniedarko.jpg

Yeah... so, um... I've been really lazy lately. That's why this one took so long. That's really the only reason. Laziness and reading too many comics to gather information for future matches...

Dude, that is so awesome. Thanks. It looks great.

[Johnny Blaze]

Thrall: You can jump on in next season if you wish; there'll be 4 open spots to fill.

Thanos: I have no plans to start everything over from scratch again, though there'll be another small draft to fill out three more reserve spots. That's about it though.

[TheCorpulent1]

Originally posted by Donnie Darko
Dude, that is so awesome. Thanks. It looks great.
You're welcome. :)

Guyver: I believe the trash-talking finally took its toll on Aunt P and Deathstroke.

[DBM]

Originally posted by Guyverjay
Oh yeah I need a good female regular, any recomendations via PM would be appreciated:)

DC or Marvel?

[Johnny Blaze]

Week 2 will begin Wednesday afternoon sometime.
If you plan on changing your starters around, do so before then.

[Union Jack]

i'm still knackered from the pummeling petunia gave me!!:D

[Union Jack]

here is a question..i'm not knocking the DTL cos its great but when people vote it was said that people voted for so and so because he/she wrote the better fight,and i just though of a fault with the premise,people would be voting on the writer not the team,it's like me picking superman someone else picking aunt may,everyone knows supes would destroy aunt may(if he had to!),but if written properly a way could be made to have aunt may win,hence because of better writing.i'm just thinking if there is another way to try and rectify that situation.
you get my point though,don't look at it as me being sour grapes or anything cos it's not that it's just that it seems the writing is being voted on,not so much the characters themselves.
just a thought.hopefully you'll see i'm not moaning just pointing out something.

[TheCorpulent1]

People are voting a lot of different ways. I personally vote based on what I already know AND what the person writes. If they have a character doing something that I know is blatantly wrong, I'm gonna be a lot more critical of their write-up.

[Guyverjay]

Originally posted by DBM
DC or Marvel?

Any:up:

Preferably DC though

[DBM]

Originally posted by Guyverjay
Any:up:

Preferably DC though

Well, I already gave you my lists which would probable be the most help I could give.

PM if you are looking for anything specific maybe I can think of something.

[Franklin Richards]

Ok boys! I'm back! ...and YOU Mr. X are dang lucky I didn't have time to write a script. Plus being on probation is a downer. I hope you know that in that city Saturn Girl should have taken over the Hulk and the rest of us would have just sat inside a force field designed by Brainiac 5 and Dr. Doom. NO ONE could have gotten through that. Ahh well.... We got spanked but we'll be back.

On a side note. I'm gonna be a little less active for the next two weeks. I"m still into this, I'm just real busy with this play I'm in. It's alot of hard work and I get real tired after performances and such. Plus I'm a lunatic the whole day before a performance. Try to have a little patience with me boys. ;)

Anywho... I would say great match but apparantly my team never showed up.

NEXT TIME...

It's Clobberin' Time!!!

:thing: :doom: :thing:

[Donnie Darko]

any chance of the next draft being done so suckier owners (me) get earlier picks?

[Ahura Mazda]

I know there are potentially open spaces for next season but I was wondering if they all got filled up. I would be interesting in participating if there are any spaces remaining for next season. But I will admit that I am no writer as some appear to be...

[X]

Originally posted by Donnie Darko
any chance of the next draft being done so suckier owners (me) get earlier picks?

Actually, it's going to work out that way. The worst team will be first in line for the draft. The best, will be last. Neat huh? :) ;)

Originally posted by Ahura Mazda
I know there are potentially open spaces for next season but I was wondering if they all got filled up. I would be interesting in participating if there are any spaces remaining for next season. But I will admit that I am no writer as some appear to be...

You're in then. Just be around when it all starts up next time and you'll get in no problem. And this whole thing really isn't that hard, just a wee bit competitive, in a fun way. You don't have to be a comic guru or anything. :)

[Ahura Mazda]

Ok Thanks and hopefully I will be here on time - I am guessing that is in about 2 months ....... or 3 ....... well obviously i do not know so if somebody could enlighten me that would be great.

[DBM]

Originally posted by Ahura Mazda
Ok Thanks and hopefully I will be here on time - I am guessing that is in about 2 months ....... or 3 ....... well obviously i do not know so if somebody could enlighten me that would be great.

I think we still have 9 weeks of regular play and then the playoffs.

[Ahura Mazda]

Thanks DBM so that would be approximately 3 to 4 months - Second season would start toward the beginning of the fall I guess.

Great luck to everybody for Season 1

[BoondockSaint]

When I dropped out and let Thanos in, I was told I was gonna have a place in the next one. So, I'm holding everyone to that. Also, did Thanos quit? Cuz honestly, if he dropped out after I gave him my team I'm gonna be REALLY pissed.

[Movies205]

Originally posted by BoondockSaint
When I dropped out and let Thanos in, I was told I was gonna have a place in the next one. So, I'm holding everyone to that. Also, did Thanos quit? Cuz honestly, if he dropped out after I gave him my team I'm gonna be REALLY pissed.

Someone's going be pissed :(

[Johnny Blaze]

Yeah, you're gonna be pissed, because he dropped out. :D

[Unthinkable]

Didn't he give his team to Deathstroke?

[Johnny Blaze]

He sure did. :) :D

[JewishHobbit]

now you know I'm getting into this. I had a dream lastnight that Corp finnished the pic of my team and I hated it. I woke and and laughed.

[Johnny Blaze]

That's pretty funny. :D

[TheCorpulent1]

Originally posted by JewishHobbit
now you know I'm getting into this. I had a dream lastnight that Corp finnished the pic of my team and I hated it. I woke and and laughed.
Well, we know that won't happen because I haven't worked on your pic in days. Yes, I'm really that lazy. And I rented Onimusha 3, so it might be a couple more days before I get back to work! :p

[JewishHobbit]

You're working on mine now? YEAH WHOOO

[wiegeabo]

You've done great work so far, Corp, can't wait to see what's coming down the line.

And when you get around to my team's pic, no matter who I've got at the time, I really want Apocalypse and Kyle Rayner to be in it. They're two of my originals, and a powerhouse duo.

[TheCorpulent1]

All righty. I made a note and you're after DBM. :)

[wiegeabo]

Thanks, Corp.

[wiegeabo]

Well, I've finally got the DTL homepage up and running. You can get a look at the progress at http://spica.csustan.edu/~jvictor/

You'll want to use Internet Explorer. Netscape has some problems, especially Communicator.

I'm now starting work on the subpages, which is why the menu links only take you to blank websites, and the login/signup buttons only give you a message.

Quick notes: The mouseover effects may not work right away since the image preload sometimes doesn't work in a timely manner. Just try mouseovering a couple of times. The page also looks better in a thinner window rather than a maximized one, although it does resize itself if the window is too large.

BTW, if anyone knows Photoshop, or other Adobe programs, I'm having a problem making high-quality transparent images. I can't find a way to make transparent .jpg's (it might not be possible) and the transparent .gif's don't give me the quality I'm looking for, although the options I'm using know are close. I'm using
Adobe (Photoshop) CS, so if you have any tips, let me know.

[TheCorpulent1]

Transparent jpegs are impossible. I don't really know how to get the quality up on gifs, either.

[wiegeabo]

That's what I thought. Maybe I'll look into something else like .png images.

[Johnny Blaze]

Lookin' good wiegeabo. Lookin' mighty good. :up: :D

[Deathstroke]

I agree that it looks good.

[X]

Yeah, keep up the good work man. :up:

[wiegeabo]

Thanks everyone.

[Johnny Blaze]

Hey, thank you for taking the time out of your schedule to make it. That's uber cool of you to do. :up: :D :cool:

[wiegeabo]

No problem. I need the practice anyway, and I finally found a project I was interested in.

[DBM]

There’s lots of discussion (in various threads) about how people vote. I thought I’d put down my opinion (in the Discussion Thread no less) and explain how I tend to vote. These are in order of importance in my decision.
[list=1]
Write-Up
The write-up is the most important part to me. Basing a decision on the grammar, spelling, or whoever has the best narrative is just plain wrong though.

While I prefer the narrative format (because it’s more fun to read and to write), in terms of the write-up, I’m more interested in the plans, strategies and tactics used. The write-up is the place where the team owners are allowed to show why they want those characters and how they think they should be best utilized. Just because someone has the Hulk or Doom doesn’t mean that they will win. It’s how they use the characters that make the difference to me. If it’s nothing but a big slug-fest then all that shows me is that the owner can’t come up with something interesting. It’s easy to counter a character’s abilities if they are simply used in the same way they always are which makes the fight boring but if you come up with a new creative (while still in character) way to use the abilities then that means something.

Knowledge and Research
This is second in importance to me. These battles, more or less, are supposed to be taking place in “comic reality,” meaning that the characters are supposed to be like they are in the comics. So I ask myself, does the owner show a knowledge of the characters’ history, abilities, personality and attitudes. Making a character do something that they would never do in the comics shows me that the owner doesn’t really care. For example, I currently have Manchester Black on my team. He’s one mean SOB. He’s willing to kill. That’s why I chose him. Having him kill, or maim, an opponent is not out of character. But if I were to pick up Superman and have him indiscriminately start killing people that would be a major flaw in my understanding of the character. This would show that I didn’t take the time to learn about the character and therefore whatever plans that I had developed would be initially flawed and likely to fail.

Also when designing the team I like to see that the owner took their personalities into consideration. For (an exaggerated) example, putting Spider-Man and the Morlun on a team together. Assuming there is no telepathic or hypnotic abilities coming into play here, these two just are not going to work well together. You can claim that they both would see the need to win and therefore would cooperate but frankly I think that’s a cop-out. Morlun basically wants to eat Spider-Man. You aren’t going to get past that regardless of what you want to think or how well you describe the battle. That’s an extreme example but the point is more than valid.

The Bull**** Factor
Similar to the second factor but coming from the opposite side, this is where I’m reading and I just have to say BULL****. Usually because something totally out of character or ridiculous happens. For example, if a character suddenly develops the ability to do something that we’ve never seen before and there’s no precedent for it happening. Or and owner writes something like “My team wins because I’ve got Characters X, Y, and Z and they always win because they do.” Again I exaggerate but I hope you get my point.

Team Members Alone
This is usually only a factor when the owner doesn’t write anything up at all. I have to base my decision entirely on what I think of the team characters by themselves, basically without any leadership or strategy. I don’t like to base my choices on this but when you’ve got nothing else to go on you’ve got to do something.
[/list=1]
That’s how I decide who I vote for. It’s also somewhat how I design my teams and their subsequent matches. I try to take these things into consideration and plan accordingly.

[X]

Great job DBM. :up:

[JewishHobbit]

Question, will the top two of each of the four devisions fight to go on to the Conference battles and then on to the championships or is that just determined by who has the best standings at the end of weak 12?

[Guyverjay]

I was under the impression that it would go to some sort of play off

[Johnny Blaze]

Originally posted by Guyverjay
I was under the impression that it would go to some sort of play off :up:

[JewishHobbit]

Sorry for my stupidity but I've never done or watch much in the way of sports or tournaments,... what is a play off? I know the term but was never really sure what it entaled

[Lactophiliac]

Argh, hey sorry guys, I lost internet connection, I couldn't tell you why, but after trying to solve it in every way I could think of, it just fixed itself.

[wiegeabo]

Originally posted by JewishHobbit
Sorry for my stupidity but I've never done or watch much in the way of sports or tournaments,... what is a play off? I know the term but was never really sure what it entaled

Basically, in the playoffs, the best teams play against each other to determine who will play in the championship. From what I gather, for the DTL playoffs, the top teams in each division will play the leader of the other division within their conference. The winners of these two playoff games then meet in the championship. (There are other types of playoffs, and playoffs can be more complicated, especially when the number of teams is not a power of 2.)

In sports, if playoffs weren't used, the best team (the one with the best record within their respective conference) from each conference would meet in the championship game. But one reason playoffs are used is to try and be more fair since one or both teams may have lucked their way into the final game and don't really deserve a championship.

The big reason playoffs are used is to make the end of the season more exciting, and sell more tickets. For example, if there were only five games left in the season, but you were six games from first place in your conference, no matter what you do, you can't go to the final game. There's not much incentive for you to keep playing then. But with playoffs, even if you're ten games from first place in the conference, yet are the leader of your division, you still have a chance to make it to the finals, therefore you still have an incentive to play your hardest and maintain your lead (and fans still have incentive to buy tickets and root for their teams).

[Johnny Blaze]

Good description. :up:

There will be 4 spots for each conference in the DTL playoffs. 2 of the 4 will be for the division winners while the other 2 will be wild card spots. THe wild card spots will be given to the 2 team from each conference with the best record (other than the division leaders).
The 1st round of the playoffs will see all 8 teams play (4 per conference). Winners will move on to their respective Conference Championships while the losers go home. The winners of the Conference Championship will then battle it out for the title of Dream Team Champion.

[Johnny Blaze]

Originally posted by Lactophiliac
Argh, hey sorry guys, I lost internet connection, I couldn't tell you why, but after trying to solve it in every way I could think of, it just fixed itself. Well, at least you're back now. There's still plenty of time to turn things around for the Sadomasochists. :)

[punishermax]

You know I was thinking that for the championship game only people in the league could vote. I don't know why but IMO I think it would work out the best.

[Ahura Mazda]

I know I have no say in this and I apologise for intruding but I think it would be great if your final champion was chosen by all of you rather than the people passing randomly like me. Or possibly you could choose a panel made up of the comic book experts that are not part of the Championship Match - And maybe each of you could give your reasons why the Champion should win .... of course the last part is really only to make it entertaining for those of us frrom the outside.

Its your decision anyways and whatever it is, it has been great so far!

[Guyverjay]

I personally think that I and I alone should vote for the champion;)

That way it will be fair:o

[JewishHobbit]

Originally posted by Johnny Blaze
Good description. :up:

There will be 4 spots for each conference in the DTL playoffs. 2 of the 4 will be for the division winners while the other 2 will be wild card spots. THe wild card spots will be given to the 2 team from each conference with the best record (other than the division leaders).
The 1st round of the playoffs will see all 8 teams play (4 per conference). Winners will move on to their respective Conference Championships while the losers go home. The winners of the Conference Championship will then battle it out for the title of Dream Team Champion.

Very cool, I understand now. I kinda had the idea but wasnt completely certain

[TheCorpulent1]

Originally posted by Lactophiliac
Argh, hey sorry guys, I lost internet connection, I couldn't tell you why, but after trying to solve it in every way I could think of, it just fixed itself.
Aw, that blows. Do you have a cable modem? That happened to me a lot when I had a 1-way cable modem. :(

[WeeZiTe]

I'm going to get murdered every week next season... :) Wooo.

[TheCorpulent1]

A 1-way cable modem refers to a modem that has the cable connection running one way. The downstream connection is cable, the upstream connection is a phone line.

[Deathstroke]

Just to let everyone know, I'm losing my Internet Access so if anyone wants my team let me know.

[X]

Originally posted by Deathstroke
Just to let everyone know, I'm losing my Internet Access so if anyone wants my team let me know.

What's going on?

[Johnny Blaze]

Boondock Saint has first dibs, so I'll PM him.

[Franklin Richards]

Kiss my half yellow/ half red booty X!!
This better? :D

:doom: :doom: :doom:

[X]

Heh, much. As long as this doesen't go on for 10 pages through 4 or 5 threads, I'm happy. :D ;)

[JewishHobbit]

okay I have some questions maybe someone can help me with. On every site I visit in researching my character Ultraman it says he has all Superman's powers and that Kryptonite gives him powers. Now does this just mean it makes him stronger or is their more to it?

Also, besides in Hush has Poison Ivy or Ultraman ever encountered Superman, Raven, or Darkseid and if so when so I can look into it (or you could just tell me to make it easier). I'm trying to research these but DC sites aren't very informative. Everything I've been finding over the past hour or so just gives small character profiles that go into no detail. If you can give me some issues or whatever so I can narrow down my search that would be a great help.

[X]

Pre-Crisis Ultraman gained new powers from Kryptonite. It's kind of like Red Kryptonite to Pre-Crisis Superman, it has unexpected results, only in Ultramans case, positive ones.

[Tropico]

Originally posted by JewishHobbit
okay I have some questions maybe someone can help me with. On every site I visit in researching my character Ultraman it says he has all Superman's powers and that Kryptonite gives him powers. Now does this just mean it makes him stronger or is their more to it?

Also, besides in Hush has Poison Ivy or Ultraman ever encountered Superman, Raven, or Darkseid and if so when so I can look into it (or you could just tell me to make it easier). I'm trying to research these but DC sites aren't very informative. Everything I've been finding over the past hour or so just gives small character profiles that go into no detail. If you can give me some issues or whatever so I can narrow down my search that would be a great help.

I don't remember if in JLA: Earth 2 Ultraman has to expose himself ocassionaly to Krypronite to keep powered. He crossed over to our world, along with his cohorts, and fought the JLA so he DOES know Superman as well as the other Leaguers. I've never heard if all of our heroes and villains had counterparts in their dimension so it's open to speculation if they've known alternate versions of the people you're asking.

[DBM]

Originally posted by Tropico
I don't remember if in JLA: Earth 2 Ultraman has to expose himself ocassionaly to Krypronite to keep powered. He crossed over to our world, along with his cohorts, and fought the JLA so he DOES know Superman as well as the other Leaguers. I've never heard if all of our heroes and villains had counterparts in their dimension so it's open to speculation if they've known alternate versions of the people you're asking.

In JLA Earth 2, Ulltraman had to expose himself to Kryptonite (actually anti-kryptonite IIRC) every once in a while to keep his power levels up. When the Crime Syndicate came to Earth he kept getting weaker because he wasn't exposed to it. And then Martian Manhunter kicked his ass. Easily.

[Tropico]

Since I'm not up to speed on all the the details of how the DTL was formed I have a few questions:

Do the characters in the competition know why they are there? I ask this because I've heard a lot about teamwork and motivation and I want to be clear about it.

Do the characters go back to their respective places after the match is done or do they stay in some kind of "waiting zone"? I ask this because I've seen people bring in equipment that would never be in the fight zone and/or bring in equipment in excess of what they should have (no Legionnaire can hand out flight rings like candy).

Prep time occurs in the designated fight zone, right?

From the first posts I've seen people have had their team know who their opponents were for that round (not info on them, just who); in others people have had one of their team scan for the opponents. Do the teams automatically know who their opponents are and the scans are for more detailed info?

[DBM]

Originally posted by Tropico
Since I'm not up to speed on all the the details of how the DTL was formed I have a few questions:

Do the characters in the competition know why they are there? I ask this because I've heard a lot about teamwork and motivation and I want to be clear about it.

Do the characters go back to their respective places after the match is done or do they stay in some kind of "waiting zone"? I ask this because I've seen people bring in equipment that would never be in the fight zone and/or bring in equipment in excess of what they should have (no Legionnaire can hand out flight rings like candy).

Prep time occurs in the designated fight zone, right?

From the first posts I've seen people have had their team know who their opponents were for that round (not info on them, just who); in others people have had one of their team scan for the opponents. Do the teams automatically know who their opponents are and the scans are for more detailed info?

Here's the way I've looked at it I can't speak for anyone else and anything official has to come from Johnny Blaze.

All the participants know they have to defeat the other team in order to "win.” I’ve never bothered wondering if they know why they have to win. We take teamwork and motivation in to consideration in order to make it more “realistic.” Taking the characters attitudes and personalities into consideration shows that you have put real effort into the matches and that often may give you votes.

IMO, between battles they are in some kind of “null space” where they do not interact with each other at all. Characters are allowed to have access to anything that they would normal have in the comics, i.e. Legionnaires have flight rings (though I wonder about giving them to everyone), Reed Richards and Doctor Doom have access to some technology, etc.

I assume prep time takes place on the outskirts of where the battle is going to be or someplace neutral to the fight.

I’ve always assumed that may people know the names of their opponents to begin with and that’s it. Anything else has to be gleaned from knowledge that the team members previously had of them (from being on the same team with them or fighting them in their respective comics, etc.) or from scanning technologically, telepathically, etc.

Hope that helps.

[Johnny Blaze]

Originally posted by DBM
Here's the way I've looked at it I can't speak for anyone else and anything official has to come from Johnny Blaze.

All the participants know they have to defeat the other team in order to "win.” I’ve never bothered wondering if they know why they have to win. We take teamwork and motivation in to consideration in order to make it more “realistic.” Taking the characters attitudes and personalities into consideration shows that you have put real effort into the matches and that often may give you votes.

IMO, between battles they are in some kind of “null space” where they do not interact with each other at all. Characters are allowed to have access to anything that they would normal have in the comics, i.e. Legionnaires have flight rings (though I wonder about giving them to everyone), Reed Richards and Doctor Doom have access to some technology, etc.

I assume prep time takes place on the outskirts of where the battle is going to be or someplace neutral to the fight.

I’ve always assumed that may people know the names of their opponents to begin with and that’s it. Anything else has to be gleaned from knowledge that the team members previously had of them (from being on the same team with them or fighting them in their respective comics, etc.) or from scanning technologically, telepathically, etc.

Hope that helps. Sounds good. :up:

As far as between battles go, your team just hangs out wherever you wish to pass the time.

[Franklin Richards]

In my first write up, I had them all in a waiting room till the match began. I'm stickin' to that. :D

:thing: :doom: :thing:

[Johnny Blaze]

Yeah, my troops just chill on Thanos' starship, Sanctuary. :D

Helluvalot more entertaining then Null Space. :p

[Guyverjay]

Suspended animation for me

[Franklin Richards]

Hmmm... The Baxter Building or Castle Doom? Which one should we hang out in?

:thing: :doom: :thing:

[Guyverjay]

Four freedoms plaza:o

[Johnny Blaze]

Screw that, go with Monster Island. :D

[TheCorpulent1]

My troops hang out in Dr. Fate's tower, which basically appears however Dr. Fate wants it to. :)

[DBM]

If our teams can hang out anywhere between matches then screw null space.

We're hanging out at Déjà Vu Showgirls in Las Vegas.

[Tropico]

So they stay together then?
That'd be funny when characters are dropped:

Grace: "Oh, s**t! Were did Magneto go, I was just talking to him?"
*Bamf, blink, fwoosh, whatever teleport sound u like*
Grace:"Who the f**k are you?!"
Steve Rogers: 'I'm Capt. America. Now, watch you're language young lady. Where the H**l am I?

[wiegeabo]

Since we're adding two new divisions next season, has anyone given thought to what they will be named? Just curious.

[Tropico]

Originally posted by AnnoyingSilence
?what just happened?
tropico just went off the deep end of neverwhere an lost everbody in the wierdest action ever

What'chu talkin' 'bout, Willis?

[Johnny Blaze]

I've been leaning to the Atlantis Division for the National Conference and either the Genosha or Asgard Division for the Timely Conference.

[X]

How about the Galador Divison? :o ;)

And I think Asgard would be best. :up:

[Johnny Blaze]

Being that I like Thor, that's what I was leaning towards. :D

Also, if anyone has a better name for the new National (DC) Conference division let me hear it. As I said, the frontrunner is Atlantis, but I am open to suggestions. :)

[TheCorpulent1]

I'd go for the Kandor Division. Marvel's got an Atlantis too.

[wiegeabo]

I like the Atlantis division, but existing in both universes is a problem. What about Keystone, home of Jay Garrick Flash? Or we could be obvious and have the Smallville division.

Asgard is really good. I'm sort of seeing a pattern. The National Conference is made up of cities, while the Timely Conference is made up of nations.

[JewishHobbit]

Some other marvel places to consitter:

Savage Land
Muir Island

[Johnny Blaze]

Kandor...why does that sound so familiar? :confused:

Keystone sounds good (especially since I'm a big Flash fan :D).

Nothing is set in stone though, so keep them ideas rollin' in. :)

[JewishHobbit]

Limbo?

[wiegeabo]

Muir is a good name.

I believe Kandor was the city in a bottle that Superman rescued and kept in the Fortress of Solitude.

[TheCorpulent1]

Originally posted by Johnny Blaze
Kandor...why does that sound so familiar? :confused:
The Bottled City of Kandor, kept in a jar in Superman's Fortress of Solitude. :)

[Johnny Blaze]

Ok, I think I heard mention of that on the supermanhomepage.

And Muir was going to be one of the original division names, but got switched for Latveria. ;)

[X]

Keystone. :up:

We should have one of the weeks battles take place there as well. All of the buildings, plus the Flash Museum. I mean, I remember when The Reverse Flash and Wally fought there, it was awesome. You could have a speedster jump on the cosmic treadmill too. :D

[Franklin Richards]

...since you have Marvel with countries and DC with cities, I'd stick with that.

Genosha for Marvel
and
Central for DC

:thing: :doom: :thing:

[X]

Genosha? Who in the hell wants anything to do with Genosha? :o

[TheCorpulent1]

I'd go for Opal City. I'm probably the only one who cares about Starman, though. :(

[X]

Yeah, you are. :o :p ;) :D

Errr, yeah. Why not go with a Galador Division? :o :(

[Johnny Blaze]

Starman!?

I hated that movie. :mad:

[Franklin Richards]

Originally posted by Mr. X
Genosha? Who in the hell wants anything to do with Genosha? :o

We have Latveria for crying out loud. :D

:thing: :doom: :thing:

[TheCorpulent1]

Originally posted by Johnny Blaze
Starman!?

I hated that movie. :mad:
What movie? :confused: Jack Knight, Ted Knight, Stargirl, and STRIPE all hang out in Opal City. But if you want to sell out to the mainstream and be all trendy, by all means, go for Keystone. :o ;)

[X]

Yeah, but Latveria's like, 100 times better then Genosha. Genosha just sucks...peroid. :o :(

[TheCorpulent1]

How about Slokovia? The Avengers went there... once.. I think. ;)

[Johnny Blaze]

Originally posted by TheCorpulent1
What movie? :confused: Jack Knight, Ted Knight, Stargirl, and STRIPE all hang out in Opal City. But if you want to sell out to the mainstream and be all trendy, by all means, go for Keystone. :o ;) It's an old school movie about an alien that crash lands on Earth and takes the form of a widows dead husband.
If you don't know what it is be glad. :up:

Like I said, I hated that movie. :mad: :o

[TheCorpulent1]

Yeesh... I am glad. :)

But you shouldn't hold it against Opal City. It's a very nice place, full of people with stars on their costumes and bright, flashy pieces of equipment with the word "cosmic" in their names.

[Franklin Richards]

We need to start with the mainstreams. That's why they're mainstream. :p

:thing: :doom: :thing:

[Johnny Blaze]

Well, there's more to the movie than that. Thankfully though I've managed to suppress those memories. :D

And Opal is still in the running. As I've said, nothing has been finalized yet and won't be until the season ends.

[TheCorpulent1]

Nah, I'm kidding. Keystone's the most recognizable outside of Metropolis and Gotham. St. Roch, Opal, Star, and all the others are more obscure.

[Franklin Richards]

Keystone or Central and Genosha... definately.

:thing: :doom: :thing:

[TheCorpulent1]

Keystone before Central, I think.

[Franklin Richards]

I can't decide. Being a bigger GL fan than a Flash fan. Even though it's close, I'm biased toward Central. Keystone is prolly more well known. But not by much. :D

Genosha and Keystone it is then. My vote anywho.

:thing: :doom: :thing:

[TheCorpulent1]

Wait, wasn't GL in Coast City? Or I guess a more pertinent question would be which GL? Alan Scott hung out in Gotham, Hal had Coast City, and Kyle lives in New York. :confused:

[X]

We should have a battle take place on Warworld or something. You know, where Mogul handed Superman his ass. :D

[Guyverjay]

Lets have a battle on the techno planet Colu

[X]

The Toad Mens planet damn it. :mad: :D

[TheCorpulent1]

I think we should have a battle on Marvel's Saturn and use the Stone Men as props and/or giant bats. :D

[X]

We should fight in Captain Marvels tomb, the one with all of the booby traps. :D

[TheCorpulent1]

We should fight in the nothingness before the Big Bang. All the regulars would die immediately and the ubers could just float around in the void of nothingness... that'd be fun. ;)

[wiegeabo]

GL's city was Coast City. I hear that it was a nice place before the Superman Cyborg destroyed it.

[TheCorpulent1]

It looked like a little slice of Americana from the way Hal recreated it. Complete with barber shops with the swirly color thingamajig over the door and a bunch of little mom & pop shops lining the streets. Of course, he might've recreated it at a certain time period...

[X]

Originally posted by TheCorpulent1
We should fight in the nothingness before the Big Bang. All the regulars would die immediately and the ubers could just float around in the void of nothingness... that'd be fun. ;)

Bwhahaha, it actually would. The Fury could manage though, I mean, he did go to a completly destroyed universe. :D ;)

[wiegeabo]

Well, I've finally got the teams subpage done for the webpage. The links for the top menu work, although they go to blank pages for now. The division links on the side work, although I still have to build the individual team pages to display lineups and roster. That's the next step.

Standings and Logout aren't up yet and there are still a few imperfections, but you'll get the idea. (It may take a little while to load the first time because a lot of images need to be preloaded.)


You can find the page at http://spica.csustan.edu/~jvictor/Data/index_Teams.html

or can use the team link on the DTL homepage at http://spica.csustan.edu/~jvictor/

Internet Explorer and Netscape Navigator work best.

[DBM]

Looks great wiegeabo. Keep up the good work.

[DBM]

And regarding naming the divisions, these might be helpful

Marvel Atlas Project (http://www.aub.dk/~henckel/map.html)
Atlas of the DC Universe (http://www.karridian.net/dcatlas.html)

[Johnny Blaze]

Lookin' good wiegeabo. :up:

[Johnny Blaze]

Originally posted by DBM
And regarding naming the divisions, these might be helpful

Marvel Atlas Project (http://www.aub.dk/~henckel/map.html)
Atlas of the DC Universe (http://www.karridian.net/dcatlas.html) Thank you kindly for the links. :up: :)

[wiegeabo]

Now that I've looked at those links, I like Blüdhaven and Westchester divisions.

[TheCorpulent1]

The Sadomasochists, Lactophiliac's team (where are ya, guy? :():
http://img24.photobucket.com/albums/v71/thecorpulent1/Dream%20Team/lacto.jpg

Sorry that one took so long, I was uber-lazy for a long time. :o

[Franklin Richards]

My brain trust better be next. :p

:doom: :doom: :doom:

[Guyverjay]

As usual corp that pic is the nutz

[TheCorpulent1]

Thanks, Guyver. Y'know... sometimes, you ain't half bad. Sometimes. ;)
Originally posted by Aunt Petunia
My brain trust better be next. :p

:doom: :doom: :doom:
In fact, it is. Unfortunately, that brings me to my next point:

I'm gonna be away from home for a little over a week starting this Thursday. I may or may not be able to do a write-up for this week, we'll see. I definitely won't be able to do one for next week, since I'll be in another country with likely no Internet access. I don't know how that'll affect the team pics' schedule (if they can even be said to have a schedule) but I'll address that when I get back. Sorry. :(

[Franklin Richards]

I don't see my team changing in the forseeable future. :D

Yancy Street Gang is and prolly will be for the rest of the season :

Dr. Doom
Mr. Fantastic
Lex Luthor
Brainiac-5
Saturn Girl
Supergirl
The Human Torch.

Need any pics of any of these guys?

Oh... and have fun on your trip. Bring me back a shotglass. :D

:doom: :doom: :doom:

[TheCorpulent1]

Heh, it's a family trip so I think shot glasses are gonna be in short supply. ;)

Brainiac 5 is the only character I'm not familiar with. Also, if you want any special costumes or anything (Unthinkable Doom as opposed to regular, Supergirl as Darkseid's pet as opposed to her Superman-wannabe costume, etc.) let me know. PM me references or costume prefs. Maybe I'll get the poses sketched out on the plane.

[Tropico]

I'll be out starting Friday until Sunday afternoon. I'll do a write up before I leave Friday morning.

[wiegeabo]

Originally posted by Johnny Blaze
Lookin' good wiegeabo. :up:

Thanks everyone. I've reduced the images sizes, so new the page loads in a fraction of the time, especially for those with slower connections.


Corp, as always, your pics are amazing.

[JewishHobbit]

Originally posted by TheCorpulent1
Well, we know that won't happen because I haven't worked on your pic in days. Yes, I'm really that lazy. And I rented Onimusha 3, so it might be a couple more days before I get back to work! :p

Good job on Lacto's team pic Corp but i have a question. Back on page 22 I commented that I had a dream you finnished my pic and I hated. I awoke and laughed. You answered back with this. Now did I miss when you posted my pic or was you just mistaken on saying mine was next? No problems here, just curious.

[TheCorpulent1]

Heh, slip of the tongue. Sorry about that, I was working on Lacto's pic at the time. Aunt Petunia's up next, then you're after her JH. I'll try to keep the pace up this time and not be so lazy. :o

[X]

Looking great, wiegeabo. :up: Keep up the good work.

Good job as well Corp... :up:

[JewishHobbit]

Originally posted by TheCorpulent1
Heh, slip of the tongue. Sorry about that, I was working on Lacto's pic at the time. Aunt Petunia's up next, then you're after her JH. I'll try to keep the pace up this time and not be so lazy. :o

ratsum fratsum got my hopes up.........

just kiddn. That's cool. I use to be an artist myself and I know how it is to draw projects for people. I use to draw people's portraits for birthdays and such and it got to the point I was constantly drawing someone with 3 more in line behind them with demands increasing. It got to be very difficult and stressful, so I can simpathise. Take your time and have fun with it. Otherwise what's teh point of it? I got to the point where I drew so much it wasn't fun but I still did it and It burnt me out and now for about 5 years I've drawn only one picture and that's it. (a really good one if I say so myself, won second place in a compatition) So don't wear yourself down, when it stops being fun take a break.

[TheCorpulent1]

Yeah, I dropped my art major and switched to English because I couldn't take the fact that I had to be constantly creative. Supposedly I was good at the art my teachers had me doing, since I got a lot of compliments and good grades, but it was becoming really boring and formulaic, which terrified me. The kind of English I'm doing now I can do pretty mechanically, but it never really wears on me. Art I actually enjoy and I don't want it to get stale just because I have to draw 10 original pieces every 2 weeks or something.

Although, as a fellow artist I'd recommend you at least get back into the habit a little bit. It's a great stress-reliever if nothing else, and it's always a shame to see talent go to waste. Maybe you could enter some of the Fan Art contests here at the Hype. They're pretty unrestrictive and the Fan Art boards are one of the best forums here. :up:

[wiegeabo]

I was just thinking about the total votes tally on the Update page we use with our rankings. I'm assuming that we'll use the votes to break any ties in the rankings. If that's how it will work it might be a problem. Not all of the matchup threads are getting the same number of votes, so some teams are getting high total vote counts just because more people happened to visit that thread and not vote on the other matches.

Maybe we should count total match votes instead just total votes (like counting match points in tennis). You get a match vote for each vote you beat a team by. So if you win a match 10-6, you receive 4 match votes. A high match vote tally indicates that you typically win matches by a wide margin, and you should win tiebreakers against those with lesser match vote totals.

This would also mean that those who lose a match would earn negative match votes. If you lose a match 6-10, you earn -4 votes. A low (or negative) match vote total means you lose matches often, or barely win, and shouldn't beat teams with higher vote totals. This may be a little extreme, but it is only logical. (Or losing teams could just earn 0 votes, and we would only track winning margins.) Teams that tie would, of course, get 0 match votes.

Well, what do you all think. It's a little out of the ordinary, but I see that we might currently have the same tiebreaking problem we had during the tournaments, when votes would be uneven between matches.

[X]

Well, not everyones voted yet, there's still till' noon' tommorow to do so, just given them some more time. And if they don't vote for all sets, their votes just doesent count.

[X]

Oh, and how's the site coming along wiegeabo? Hopefully good. :)

[wiegeabo]

I was just wondering if JB was discounting those who don't vote on all four threads, or just those who don't vote for both matches on a thread. For example, would my votes for set 3 count if I didn't vote for set 2, or just voted for one team on set 2?

If JB only counted votes that appear on all four threads, then there'd be no problem with using total votes. But some matches have more votes than other matches, so there is a bias using total votes.


As for the website, I'm starting some of the database and programming work so we can start keeping track of lineups and characters.

[punishermax]

Speaking of tiebreakers, we could do what the sports leagues do and use the division records. For example.

John Does team has a record of 8 wins 4 losses, and Marky Mark's team is in the same division and has a record of 8 wins 4 losses. The teams played twice in the season and split the matches. Therefore you go to the division records John's team has a division record 3 wins and 3 losses, but Marky's team has a division record of 4 wins and 2 losses therefore Marky would be ahead of John.

I think this way (while a little bit more complicated) would be much more fair to all the teams whose matches didn't have as many votes as the others. This is just my opinion though.

[X]

Originally posted by AnnoyingSilence
ya know, i could hook you up with a bj from my fat sister

Dude... Wow, just...wow. :(

[wiegeabo]

Well, let's combine the tiebreakers. Pro sports uses multiple tiebreakers (the NFL has had to the last few seasons). When one tiebreaker fails, we move onto the next.

The first breaker is usually by division record. The only problem with this method is that it's only fair between teams within a single division. It's not good for choosing a wildcard amongst divisions.

When division records are tied, then the record between the two teams are usually compared next (of course this is usually fair only if the teams have played at least two games against each other. One game isn't always enough to make a valid decision.)

If this is tied, then some kind of point (voting) system is usually used. This is where the total votes or total match votes would come into play.

A big consideration is what the schedule will be like. We know how this season will play out, but what about next season's schedule? If we play just one game against each of the 23 other teams per week, it will take over 6 months to finish the season and playoffs. If we only play one game against teams within our respective conferences, it takes a more managable 3 months. But it would be nice to play teams twice like we are now. Maybe play the teams within your division twice, and the other teams in your conference once. (And it would help a lot if we could figure out how to have two matches per week.)

I know we still have a fair amount of time to hash this stuff out, I'm just putting it out there now.

[DBM]

Originally posted by AnnoyingSilence
ya know, i could hook you up with a bj from my fat sister

Hobbit's wife??? :confused: :confused:

[Johnny Blaze]

I'm sticking with the Total Votes deal for now, but the division record idea is good. I can't believe I didn't think of it considering how big a football nut I am. :o

Next season the Total Votes, division records, conference records, and head-to-head records will be kept track of for the chance of a tie.

Sometime in the next few days I shall go back and start setting up the division records for this season and add that to the standings. I have a feeling we might need those records for this season. :o

[Guyverjay]

Originally posted by DBM
Hobbit's wife??? :confused: :confused:

bwhahahahhahaa I didn't pick that up:D

[Johnny Blaze]

The Standings have been updated.

DTL Update Thread (http://www.superherohype.com/forums/showthread.php?s=&postid=3598446#post3598446 )

[Guyverjay]

JB why am I facing Justice supreme v2 THREE times???

I've already fought them and I face them again in week 10 and week 12:confused:

[wiegeabo]

[announcer voice]
Next week is the battle of all battles. Goons vs. Defenders. Only one will remain undefeated. Which will it be?!?!?!
[/announcer voice]

[Guyverjay]

Yes it will be tough but if anyone can be the first to put the fury on its ass I think I can:up:

[Union Jack]

Hmm,i wonder how darkseid and his omega effect and boom tube technology would do against the fury??

[X]

Originally posted by wiegeabo
[announcer voice]
Next week is the battle of all battles. Goons vs. Defenders. Only one will remain undefeated. Which will it be?!?!?!
[/announcer voice]

Heh. :)

Originally posted by Union Jack
Hmm,i wonder how darkseid and his omega effect and boom tube technology would do against the fury??

Ive seen Orion, Doomsday, Superman, and The Surfer take The Omega Beams, so The Fury could. And even if they were able to get The Fury in a boom tube, it doesen't matter where it put him, he can travel between dimensions, practially anywhere. So no dice. :) ;)

And good luck Guyver. :up: Looking forward to it and what not.

[Union Jack]

Originally posted by Guyverjay
JB why am I facing Justice supreme v2 THREE times???

I've already fought them and I face them again in week 10 and week 12:confused:
huh,really whats that all about??:confused:

[Union Jack]

Ive seen Orion, Doomsday, Superman, and The Surfer take The Omega Beams, so The Fury could. And even if they were able to get The Fury in a boom tube, it doesen't matter where it put him, he can travel between dimensions, practially anywhere. So no dice.

mumble,mumble i bet king thor woulda kicked his ass ;) :P

[Johnny Blaze]

Good eye Guyver. :up:
The schedule has been altered slightly to correct the problem.

[X]

Originally posted by Union Jack
Ive seen Orion, Doomsday, Superman, and The Surfer take The Omega Beams, so The Fury could. And even if they were able to get The Fury in a boom tube, it doesen't matter where it put him, he can travel between dimensions, practially anywhere. So no dice.

mumble,mumble i bet king thor woulda kicked his ass ;) :P

Yeah. The Fury if anything would put up a futile fight against King Thor.

[JewishHobbit]

Nah, my wife's a hottie,... but then I'm kinda biased.

[DBM]

Originally posted by AnnoyingSilence
no, that my sis-inlaw... lmbo... my sister is a fat skank... i'll post a pic of a really fat neastey if i can find one later after bourne supremacy.... i'll have a full check ou on it when i get back

What?? :confused:

You've said that Hobbit is your brother-in-law. That would mean he's married to your sister (or brother I guess in certain places).

So if Hobbit's wife is your sister-in-law and and Hobbit is your brother-in-law then that would mean, ... um... that you and Hobbit are brothers and he's married to his own sister.

:confused: :eek:

I'm really confused.

[JewishHobbit]

My wife and his wife are sisters.......... mines better :) but dont tell him that

[X]

Originally posted by DBM
What?? :confused:

You've said that Hobbit is your brother-in-law. That would mean he's married to your sister (or brother I guess in certain places).

So if Hobbit's wife is your sister-in-law and and Hobbit is your brother-in-law then that would mean, ... um... that you and Hobbit are brothers and he's married to his own sister.

:confused: :eek:

I'm really confused.

Bwhahahha :D