Dream Team League (Discussion)

[primemover]

So... what do you think of Solar? :o

Seems fine to me, he has some neat tricks up his sleeve, like stealing the kinetic energy and freezing that dude, cool.

Now a question though, he got real f'ing powerful after his hand returned from the sun, considering he could do that pretty much every battle, in prep-time, and he essentially would be at his highest power in every battle, is he still under the tuber bar? Also, can his whole body travel at the speed his hand did? How did that work exactly?

[X]

Seems fine to me, he has some neat tricks up his sleeve, like stealing the kinetic energy and freezing that dude, cool.

Now a question though, he got real f'ing powerful after his hand returned from the sun, considering he could do that pretty much every battle, in prep-time, and he essentially would be at his highest power in every battle, is he still under the tuber bar? Also, can his whole body travel at the speed his hand did? How did that work exactly?

Solar's entire thing is that he himself is his source of power, he's a sun in human form. So of course I'm going to have him devour energy. Trip to the sun to snack on some of it, maybe.

And that alien with that armor woulden't amount to much in the DTL. Being multiple times more powerful than him doesn't mean much. The weaker version of that armor have been split open after a bit of abuse by a strong man with an axe.

He's more akin to Dr. Manhattan than Silver Surfer. To me he's Too Uber.

The only comparison I can see is that they're both extremely powerful beings on planets that have human or low level metahumans populating them.

Solar has none of the precog thing going on, which was the main problem with Dr. Manhattan if I'm remembering correctly.

So, what exactly is your problem with Solar?

[Eyeballing]

Hey everyone I just wanted to say sorry for being gone so long and sorry if I have missed the start of season 3 and messed anything up. But I recently ruptured my achilles tendon so I have been out of action for a few weeks now. I am having surgery on monday and I am sorry but I will have to skip season 3 all together. Sorry if I have caused any disruption.

[TheCorpulent1]

Ouch. Hope everything goes well.

[X]

Hey everyone I just wanted to say sorry for being gone so long and sorry if I have missed the start of season 3 and messed anything up. But I recently ruptured my achilles tendon so I have been out of action for a few weeks now. I am having surgery on monday and I am sorry but I will have to skip season 3 all together. Sorry if I have caused any disruption.

Argh, that's no ****ing cool dude! The injury that is. :o :(

Don't worry at all. Disruption? Feh, AS is a disruption. You getting one of the most disgusting injuries possible happen to you isn't a problem at all.

Good well soon, dood'.

[Johnny Blaze]

Hey everyone I just wanted to say sorry for being gone so long and sorry if I have missed the start of season 3 and messed anything up. But I recently ruptured my achilles tendon so I have been out of action for a few weeks now. I am having surgery on monday and I am sorry but I will have to skip season 3 all together. Sorry if I have caused any disruption.
Sorry, to hear that you're leaving and even sorrier to hear about your serious injury. :(
Hope your surgery goes well DKF, and that your recovery goes smoothly and quickly. :up:

[AnnoyingSilence]

Hey everyone I just wanted to say sorry for being gone so long and sorry if I have missed the start of season 3 and messed anything up. But I recently ruptured my achilles tendon so I have been out of action for a few weeks now. I am having surgery on monday and I am sorry but I will have to skip season 3 all together. Sorry if I have caused any disruption.Aw, that sucks :(, sorry to hear it.

Disruption? Nah... I'm a disruption :up:

Don't worry at all. Disruption? Feh, AS is a disruption.See? :D

[X]

Yeah, I'm using you to make others feel better over their greivous injuries.

Doesn't that make you feel all warm and fuzzy inside, AS? :)

[AnnoyingSilence]

Everytime you talk about me I feel all warm and fuzzy inside :p

[X]

Then my amazing diarrhea powers are working on you!

[Roughneck]

I know I ask all the time...but Do we have a stard date for season three yet?

[AnnoyingSilence]

its not even talked about anymore

[Johnny Blaze]

I know I ask all the time...but Do we have a stard date for season three yet?
Nope; we've currently have 17 teams in the DTL at the moment, and the magic numbers I'm shooting for are either 16 or 20.

[Union Jack]

can we not have 18...or would that not work....have two leagues of 9 perhaps?

[wiegeabo]

The only way to make that fair would be to have 3 divisions of 3 teams in each conference.

[X]

I'll start asking around...

[Johnny Blaze]

can we not have 18...or would that not work....have two leagues of 9 perhaps?
It could work with 18, but then one division in each conference would have an extra team in it, which wouldn't really be fair (not even considering the 3 teams in 3 divisions thing).

And it would also be an extreme pain in the ass for me to create an even schedule; with 16 or 20 It'd be much, much easier. :up:

[Union Jack]

ah yeah...its sometimes easy to forget that you have to do a load of sorting out and stuff...
again though what if you do it like the football(soccer to you guys i guess!).
and have simply a league table involving all of us...no divisions and stuff....just like the premiership over here..or super league for the rugby fans??

just a thought...obviously if this makes it more awkward then itv wouldnt be viable...but it would be an easier way..wouldnt it?

[Johnny Blaze]

ah yeah...its sometimes easy to forget that you have to do a load of sorting out and stuff...
again though what if you do it like the football(soccer to you guys i guess!).
and have simply a league table involving all of us...no divisions and stuff....just like the premiership over here..or super league for the rugby fans??

just a thought...obviously if this makes it more awkward then itv wouldnt be viable...but it would be an easier way..wouldnt it?
If we are unable to find three more teams, I may have to do something akin to that.

[X]

I'm talking to one person (Jimmy San) right now. I think he'll got for it.

[Johnny Blaze]

Sounds good. :up:

[wiegeabo]

I threw it out to the DC RPG players. If anyone else is in another RPG, throw an invite out to them as well.

[X]

Sounds good. :up:

Jimmy's awesome. Very, very knowledgable and he's one of the most level headed people I've ever seen online.

Plus, he never shuts up. He goes on and on and on... That'd be great for write-ups. :D

[AnnoyingSilence]

Level Headed(wait till I get to'm)

[Jimmy-San]

Hah, OK, I'll join ... Hurm .... Is there a limit to low-end Skyfather or below power guys allowed? Or how many? I'd need to know to be sure how to pick a team.


-Jimmy

[X]

Hah, OK, I'll join ... Hurm .... Is there a limit to low-end Skyfather or below power guys allowed? Or how many? I'd need to know to be sure how to pick a team.

-Jimmy

Everyone has ten characters. As long as you can have a legal starting line-up each week, they can consist of whoever you want.

For instance, One DC Uber, One Marvel Uber, One DC Regular, One Marvel Regular, and one Female.

You can also have on middleweight, but you'd have to replace one of your regulars or your female for that. I've always used a Middleweight female to squeeze out a bit more power with my team, such as The Scarlet Witch or Spiral, who I currently have.

An uber is someone like The Flash, Superman, The Hulk, and so on. Regulars are Batman, Hawkman, The Karate Kid... They can be quite powerful. I believe the raw strength limit for regulars is class 70 or 75, so you could squeeze in Colossus or The She-Hulk as a regular, but a similar, slightly stronger and more versatile character like The Sandman would be a Middleweight.

And the list of too ubers is here...

http://superherohype.com/forums/showthread.php?t=125148

You can still have Superman plus level beings... Superman with a Green Lantern Ring, Mr. Majestic, and so on. Any herald is fine. Just, you know, nothing that basically makes fighting them near impossible.

Hope that helps. Feel free to ask more questions.

[rigel7soldiers]

I was just thinking... suppose an owner opts for an all-female roster. Do they need at least one male?

[wiegeabo]

As the rules stand, I think an all female team is acceptable. Actually, I think someone had an all female lineup during a match last season. I want to say Gilrean did it, but I can't remember.

[rigel7soldiers]

Hm. Well I think that's unfair. But there's nothing I can do about it. *sigh*

[Harlekin]

Colossus and She-Hulk have been declared middle-weights and Superman with the GL ring (in which he also has his own powers) has been deemed too uber.

[wiegeabo]

Hm. Well I think that's unfair. But there's nothing I can do about it. *sigh*

True, if the rules are to be applied equally, then a lineup would have to have at least one female and male.

[The Leaguer]

As the rules stand, I think an all female team is acceptable. Actually, I think someone had an all female lineup during a match last season. I want to say Gilrean did it, but I can't remember.
T'was Gilrean.

[Johnny Blaze]

All right, you can't have a starting lineup that completely consists of one gender; you have to have at least one character of the opposite sex in your lineup.

And it's good to have you aboard, Jimmy. Here's a brief rundown of the DTL:

There are two conferences, the Timely and the National (based on marvel and dc's original names). In the Timely Conference there are two divisions (Latverian and Asgardian) and in the National Conference there are two other divisions (Gotham and Metropolis). The teams will be spread evenly throughout both conferences and divisions.

There are 12-16 (haven’t decided what it will be yet for Season 3) weeks of battles. Depending on the outcome of the votes you get a "win", a "lose", or a "Tie". Your standings are kept in a separate thread called "DTL Update" and as the season goes on you are fighting trying to gain the best record in your division. After the 16 weeks the top 6 teams in each conference advance to the playoffs (just like the NFL playoffs). If you aren’t familiar with how the NFL playoffs work, don’t worry about it now.

Each week lasts for 4 days. The first 2 days are for the owners to plead their cases, write a mock battle if they want, and generally try to convince people why their team would win. The final 2 days are when people (owners and fans alike) vote for the teams they think would win out of each matchup.

Now, for Season 3, you are required to write a write up for your matches. Your write ups can be as detailed or simple as you like. I like to write a decent sized story while others write a paragraph or two. It's all up to you. And don't worry about knowing all the characters, you can research them when you come against them, or you can just ask their owners, we're all good at helping each other out. We all provide links to our characters to help others learn about them. It's not a problem, you'll catch on.

Now, there are 10 characters on each team's roster. Each character falls into one of three character Classes (Uber, Middleweight, and Regular). People like Kang, Silver Surfer, Thor, Superman, and any Green Lantern are Uber. People like the Persuader, Starfire, the Thing, Electro, and Aquaman are Middleweights. And people like Spider-Man, Batman, Captain America, Beast Boy, and Wolverine are Regular. What class each character falls under all depends on their powers. Ultimately, it's my choice what class each character is, but I usually listen to the opinions of the owners before I make a decision.

Out of your 10 character roster, you pick 5 characters to be your starting lineup each week. These starters are the only ones who fight in the match, while the rest ride the bench.
There is a requirement for starting lineups though. Each starting lineup must consist of:
1 Marvel Uber character
1 DC Uber character
1 Marvel Regular character
1 DC regular character
1 Marvel or DC Middleweight or Regular character
And at least 1 of your starters must be a female.

Other than that, your reserves can be any class you want; as long as you can field a legal starting lineup you're good.

All cosmic deities are not allowed and are marked as Too Uber (beings like Galactus, Spectre, Living Tribunal, etc). Other characters, like Parallax, Thanos, and most power copiers are Too Uber as well. It's ultimately my call to make a character Too Uber, but, like with the other classes, I usually listen to what the other owners have to say first. For the most part though, just use your best judgment and, if I think you've classed the character wrong, I'll correct it.

Here's a link to the DTL Update thread: DTL Update (http://www.superherohype.com/forums/showthread.php?p=3598195#post3598195)

In this thread you will find the updated rosters, starting lineups, standings, schedule, and everything else important to the DTL.
Check out the thread and scroll down to the rosters and you'll be able to see everyone's team and which characters are already taken.
As you look at the rosters, you may notice the letters in quotes next to the characters. The first letter tells you which company the character comes from (M = Marvel and D = DC), and the second letter tells you which class the character is (U = Uber, M = Middleweight, and R = Regular). And the F = Female.

It may seem like it is very complex, but it's really pretty simple once you start to understand how it works.
If you have any questions about what I've just said, or about anything else, ask away. I, along with all of the other owners, will be more than happy to help.

[Union Jack]

how come atom 1 million is a middle weight??

regular ole ray palmer is a regular.

:confused:

[wiegeabo]

Everytime Atom 1 mil reduces in size, he duplicates. When he gets down to atomic size, there a millions, if not billions, of dupes. And they can use their bodies to mimic 'any' atomic structure and become elements (and possibly molecules and compounds). So, for example, Atom 1 mil could shrink down, and they could enter a character's lungs as chlorine, taking them down.

[X]

Everytime Atom 1 mil reduces in size, he duplicates. When he gets down to atomic size, there a millions, if not billions, of dupes. And they can use their bodies to mimic 'any' atomic structure and become elements (and possibly molecules and compounds). So, for example, Atom 1 mil could shrink down, and they could enter a character's lungs as chlorine, taking them down.

Well said.

The normal Atom can do this on a very very very small scale. He was inside Superman and he made an extremely small amount of Kryptonite that stopped his white blood cells from going after him and what not. Like I said, very small scale, but hey, better than nothing.

[Union Jack]

ah right...i do have the jla tpb with him in...but i can't emember him doing anything like that.

but that is a cool power.

so theoretically,could he create a new life???

if he can create molecules and cells and such could he create a duplicate of a character???

[AnnoyingSilence]

Everyone has ten characters. As long as you can have a legal starting line-up each week, they can consist of whoever you want.

For instance, One DC Uber, One Marvel Uber, One DC Regular, One Marvel Regular, and one Female.

You can also have on middleweight, but you'd have to replace one of your regulars or your female for that. I've always used a Middleweight female to squeeze out a bit more power with my team, such as The Scarlet Witch or Spiral, who I currently have.

An uber is someone like The Flash, Superman, The Hulk, and so on. Regulars are Batman, Hawkman, The Karate Kid... They can be quite powerful. I believe the raw strength limit for regulars is class 70 or 75, so you could squeeze in Colossus or The She-Hulk as a regular, but a similar, slightly stronger and more versatile character like The Sandman would be a Middleweight.

And the list of too ubers is here...

http://superherohype.com/forums/showthread.php?t=125148

You can still have Superman plus level beings... Superman with a Green Lantern Ring, Mr. Majestic, and so on. Any herald is fine. Just, you know, nothing that basically makes fighting them near impossible.

Hope that helps. Feel free to ask more questions.more specificly

http://superherohype.com/forums/showpost.php?p=4896782&postcount=6

You really don't need to read the rules. Usually once you pick your team we'll chime in with what you need. Everyone here is happy to answer any of your questions :up:

[wiegeabo]

Well said.

The normal Atom can do this on a very very very small scale. He was inside Superman and he made an extremely small amount of Kryptonite that stopped his white blood cells from going after him and what not. Like I said, very small scale, but hey, better than nothing.

Really? How did he create the Kryptonite?


ah right...i do have the jla tpb with him in...but i can't emember him doing anything like that.

but that is a cool power.

so theoretically,could he create a new life???

if he can create molecules and cells and such could he create a duplicate of a character???

I think Atom 1 mil is limited to making only elements. No compounds or molecules. I'm not absolutely sure about it, I'll have to dig out the issue. If i remember correctly he became a gold bar, and did the chlorine gas trick. It'd be interesting to see what would happen if he became sodium since it explodes in contact with water. Would it hurt or destroy him, or just scatter his dupes around like the sodium atoms would?

[X]

Really? How did he create the Kryptonite?

Don't know, exactly. Must of been manipulating things by hand on a very small level. Not atomic, molecular? Don't know. I'm big on science but that isn't really my forte just yet.

[Union Jack]

still,its all fairly good stuff...i didnt realise my man was as powerful as that!

[Union Jack]

so if atom can do the same trick as my atom 1 mil...would that make him a middel too...or mine regular...or is his slight more power deemed enough to make him middle?

[Guyverjay]

Oh come on he was on MY team after all, the same as Black Alice. I don't pick crappy characters:o

[Union Jack]

true ...but it still dont answer the question though!

[X]

so if atom can do the same trick as my atom 1 mil...would that make him a middel too...or mine regular...or is his slight more power deemed enough to make him middle?

The Atom One Million can do it on a scale several million times larger than the normal Atom. The Atom made a piece of Kryptonite that warded off Superman's white blood cells, it was barely there.

[Guyverjay]

Atom one mill is middle, I tried to get him as a reg myself (even though I knew otherwise).

[Union Jack]

right...fair enough...just so i know!!

would mr.mxylptlk (if thats how it is spelt) or the impossible man be allowed?

[X]

Drop: The Aquarian (MR)
Pick Up: The Atom (Dark Knight Strikes Again)

Basically Ray with an edge, and even more combat experience.

[Guyverjay]

errrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrr

Impossible man yes, mr.mxylptlk **** NO

[X]

right...fair enough...just so i know!!

would mr.mxylptlk (if thats how it is spelt) or the impossible man be allowed?

Impossible Man would be a very good uber.

Mxy's kind can at times kick the crap out of The Spectre. So... no.

[Union Jack]

cool...
question
i though mxy and the imp were kind of the same like in the superman/silver surfer story...

what are there differences?

[X]

That Mxy can destroy universes and The Impossible Man can simply evolve on the spot. :confused:

[Guyverjay]

Um one is just a shapeshifting prankster and the other can reshape reality like the beyonder:o

[Union Jack]

really...mxy is that powerful...damn DC doesnt do things by halves!!

is mxy malevelont though..cos imp isnt really evil or nasty..he just likes irritating people and causing mischief,so he isnt one to take out any character as such.

[Guyverjay]

He see's Supermna as his play thing and pops up just to annoy him ever so often, but the Joker once tricked him out of his powers:D

[Union Jack]

jeez...joker with mxy like powers...that cannot be good.

thanks for the info...i'm just trying to do new things with my team...i'm one of the few who hasnt changed much...

[Johnny Blaze]

Drop: The Aquarian (MR)
Pick Up: The Atom (Dark Knight Strikes Again)

Basically Ray with an edge, and even more combat experience.
Wrong thread.

[X]

Who cares. :mad: :p

[The Leaguer]

Pwnt.

[X]

Heh. :D

That Zauriel count down thing is going awfully fast. :(

I remember when it said 80 days. :(

[Union Jack]

there are already two the atoms in this already,how many of the same character is allowed?
is it two or three?
cos me and nightwing already have the atom....or does it not count cos my atom is not ray palmer?

[wiegeabo]

There's only two of each person allowed. If an Atom is not Ray Palmer, than they're not counted against the Palmer Atoms. To put it another way, even if two Ray Palmer Atoms were being used, adding Atom 1 mil would be ok because it's not Ray, even though it would make 3 Atoms.

[The Leaguer]

Heh. :D

That Zauriel count down thing is going awfully fast. :(

I remember when it said 80 days. :(
Yeah, I think I started it off wrong, but it's fixed now. Which is good, the fewer the days the better. And I don't see why you're so sad, Zauriel sooner is the win.

[Union Jack]

There's only two of each person allowed. If an Atom is not Ray Palmer, than they're not counted against the Palmer Atoms. To put it another way, even if two Ray Palmer Atoms were being used, adding Atom 1 mil would be ok because it's not Ray, even though it would make 3 Atoms.

ah gotcha....

I might see if i can work that to my advantage too!

[Union Jack]

oops double post...

[Union Jack]

crap it posted again!

[Jimmy-San]

EDIT: N/M ... Just looked at the teams, and I'll need time to assemble one of my own comprised of characters not already taken.


-Jimmy

[Harlekin]

I'd like Magneto, Etrigan, Spider-Man, Deathstroke, and Barda.


-Jimmy
And this means what exactly? I suggest you check the update thread and maybe go over the rules again, and see how a team is formed.

[Jimmy-San]

Yeah, I'm having trouble understanding the rules ... :O

I must say, I find it odd that Mordru isn't considered too uber, given how he owned the entire JSA minus Dr. Fate. Darkseid's also too uber in recent comic showings except from Superman comics (Legion/YJ), but I get the point there. :) Cosmic Spidey ... Meh, I got the impression he was a good deal beyond Herald-level going by his showings against Hulk, Magneto, and Graivton (along with Doom's statement that he's > Surfer), but I could see arguments either way there ...

-Jimmy

[Jimmy-San]

Hmmm ... What about Orion (DC uber), Firelord (MU uber), Deathstroke (DC regular), The Black Tarantula (MU regular), and Barda (female) ... Then, ummmmm ... Metron, Iron Man (normal 616 version), Black Zero, Ganymede, Captain Atom, and Powergirl ...?


-Jimmy

[Johnny Blaze]

Deathstroke is already taken.

Black Zero was deemed to be over the Uber bar.

And Metron...I can't remember what the final verdict was on him (if he was over the bar or not).


As for Mordru, he, along with all the other mages, are having a set of guidelines placed on them for their powers and what not. I'll post it up for you later on (it's in the back pages of this thread and I don't feel like digging it out at the moment :o).

Darkseid was originally being ruled Too Uber, but we agreed that the watered down one from the Supes comics would be allowed (he is an iconic character after all, and we didn't really want to get rid of him).

[The Question]

Hey, uhhhh, how do I sign up?

[Johnny Blaze]

You just did. :D
Here's a brief rundown...

There are two conferences, the Timely and the National (based on marvel and dc's original names). In the Timely Conference there are two divisions (Latverian and Asgardian) and in the National Conference there are two other divisions (Gotham and Metropolis). The teams will be spread evenly throughout both conferences and divisions.

There are 12-16 (haven’t decided what it will be yet for Season 3) weeks of battles. Depending on the outcome of the votes you get a "win", a "lose", or a "Tie". Your standings are kept in a separate thread called "DTL Update" and as the season goes on you are fighting trying to gain the best record in your division. After the 16 weeks the top 6 teams in each conference advance to the playoffs (just like the NFL playoffs). If you aren’t familiar with how the NFL playoffs work, don’t worry about it now.

Each week lasts for 4 days. The first 2 days are for the owners to plead their cases, write a mock battle if they want, and generally try to convince people why their team would win. The final 2 days are when people (owners and fans alike) vote for the teams they think would win out of each matchup.

Now, for Season 3, you are required to write a write up for your matches. Your write ups can be as detailed or simple as you like. I like to write a decent sized story while others write a paragraph or two. It's all up to you. And don't worry about knowing all the characters, you can research them when you come against them, or you can just ask their owners, we're all good at helping each other out. We all provide links to our characters to help others learn about them. It's not a problem, you'll catch on.

Now, there are 10 characters on each team's roster. Each character falls into one of three character Classes (Uber, Middleweight, and Regular). People like Kang, Silver Surfer, Thor, Superman, and any Green Lantern are Uber. People like the Persuader, Starfire, the Thing, Electro, and Aquaman are Middleweights. And people like Spider-Man, Batman, Captain America, Beast Boy, and Wolverine are Regular. What class each character falls under all depends on their powers. Ultimately, it's my choice what class each character is, but I usually listen to the opinions of the owners before I make a decision.

Out of your 10 character roster, you pick 5 characters to be your starting lineup each week. These starters are the only ones who fight in the match, while the rest ride the bench.
There is a requirement for starting lineups though. Each starting lineup must consist of:
1 Marvel Uber character
1 DC Uber character
1 Marvel Regular character
1 DC regular character
1 Marvel or DC Middleweight or Regular character
And at least 1 of your starters must be a female.

Other than that, your reserves can be any class you want; as long as you can field a legal starting lineup you're good.

All cosmic deities are not allowed and are marked as Too Uber (beings like Galactus, Spectre, Living Tribunal, etc). Other characters, like Parallax, Thanos, and most power copiers are Too Uber as well. It's ultimately my call to make a character Too Uber, but, like with the other classes, I usually listen to what the other owners have to say first. For the most part though, just use your best judgment and, if I think you've classed the character wrong, I'll correct it.

Here's a link to the DTL Update thread: DTL Update (http://www.superherohype.com/forums/showthread.php?p=3598195#post3598195)

In this thread you will find the updated rosters, starting lineups, standings, schedule, and everything else important to the DTL.
Check out the thread and scroll down to the rosters and you'll be able to see everyone's team and which characters are already taken.
As you look at the rosters, you may notice the letters in quotes next to the characters. The first letter tells you which company the character comes from (M = Marvel and D = DC), and the second letter tells you which class the character is (U = Uber, M = Middleweight, and R = Regular). And the F = Female.

It may seem like it is very complex, but it's really pretty simple once you start to understand how it works.
If you have any questions about what I've just said, or about anything else, ask away. I, along with all of the other owners, will be more than happy to help.

[wiegeabo]

That's good enough, Q. Be good to have you aboard.

[Johnny Blaze]

If you have any questions, myself or any of the other owners will be happy to answer them for you. :up:

[The Question]

So, I just say what characters who aren't taken that I want on my team, right? ANd do my characters have to be in the DC or Marvel continuity, or can they just be owned by the company (EXAMPLE: the rights to make a Doc Savage comic are owned by Marvel).

[wiegeabo]

I'm not sure. I know that characters have to have started as a comic. That's why Star Wars characters aren't allowed even though they were Marvel comics. They started as movies.

[The Question]

Okay, thanks.

[rigel7soldiers]

So, I just say what characters who aren't taken that I want on my team, right? ANd do my characters have to be in the DC or Marvel continuity, or can they just be owned by the company (EXAMPLE: the rights to make a Doc Savage comic are owned by Marvel).

Kind of. You're supposed to do it in the form of the rosters in the update thread, with a team name, clarifications when necessary, and a ranking for each character.

[The Question]

Okay. I PMed JB with the team I want to have to see if it works befor officially posting it.

[X]

Hmmm ... What about Orion (DC uber), Firelord (MU uber), Deathstroke (DC regular), The Black Tarantula (MU regular), and Barda (female) ... Then, ummmmm ... Metron, Iron Man (normal 616 version), Black Zero, Ganymede, Captain Atom, and Powergirl ...?


-Jimmy

Just a bit of advice, when you want a character, post like this...

Pick Up: Whoever

And if you want to drop...

Drop: So and so.

[X]

Deathstroke is already taken.

Black Zero was deemed to be over the Uber bar.

And Metron...I can't remember what the final verdict was on him (if he was over the bar or not).

As for Mordru, he, along with all the other mages, are having a set of guidelines placed on them for their powers and what not. I'll post it up for you later on (it's in the back pages of this thread and I don't feel like digging it out at the moment :o).

Darkseid was originally being ruled Too Uber, but we agreed that the watered down one from the Supes comics would be allowed (he is an iconic character after all, and we didn't really want to get rid of him).

I had Metron on my team once, for a short time. Really shoulden't be any problems with him...

I feel that we should allowe the Superman plus Darkseid, basically just not Great Darkness Seid... Kirby's Darkseid would be fine, I think.

[The Question]

Ummm, I thought up my team. Is this good?:

Hyperion (Supreme Power)
Wandjina
Nighthawk (Supreme Power)
General Glory
Nightshade
Peacemaker
Plastique
Silver Sorceress
Amphibion (Supreme Power)
The Blur (Supreme Power)

[rigel7soldiers]

You still need rankings, so I can't tell. Also, I have the Amphibian from Supreme Power.

[The Question]

Oh, okay....


Hyperion (Supreme Power) (MU)
Wandjina (DU)
Nighthawk (Supreme Power) (MR)
General Glory (DR)
Nightshade (DU)
Peacemaker (DR)
Plastique (DM)
Silver Sorceress (DU)
Jenny Sparks (DM)
The Blur (Supreme Power) (MU)

[wiegeabo]

The only problem I see with you team, and it's not really a problem, is that your going to be stuck using Nighthawk and Hyperion in every match.

This of course isn't necessarily such a bad thing. I was pretty much stuck using Kyle Rayner in every match last season. And Hyperion's a kick ass character. It just makes it easier for your opponents to plan against your team and limits your character (and powers) variety sometimes.

[The Question]

Well, I can always swap Hyperion for Blur. You're right about Nighthawk, though. Mabey I could replace Nightshade with a MR.

EDIT: Never mind. I'll stick with the team I have for now.

[primemover]

wiegeabo saw that you labeled The Blur as a DC Uber, when he is a Marvel Uber, that's why he said what he said.

[The Question]

I did? Oh, my mistake.

EDIT: There. I fixed it.

[wiegeabo]

The problem is, you can't switch Hyperion with Blur because you have to have at least one MU in a lineup, and Hyperion's your only Marvel Uber.

[The Question]

No, he's not. The Blur is Marvel. I just labelled him DC by accident. I fixed it.

[wiegeabo]

Ah, he's an MU? That clears it up. I didn't know anything about him.

Well, that takes care of that and invalidates my last post. :o

[AnnoyingSilence]

You just did. :D
Blah Blah BLAH
STOP THAT!

your scarring people away. let them enter, we start with the basic team set up and go from there. those rules make it seem harder than it really is.

[AnnoyingSilence]

Well, I can always swap Hyperion for Blur. You're right about Nighthawk, though. Mabey I could replace Nightshade with a MR.

EDIT: Never mind. I'll stick with the team I have for now.ok, but you'll want to do this in the transactions thread.

in my sig(it takes you to the last post :D )

[Johnny Blaze]

Oh, okay....


Hyperion (Supreme Power) (MU)
Wandjina (DU)
Nighthawk (Supreme Power) (MR)
General Glory (DR)
Nightshade (DU)
Peacemaker (DR)
Plastique (DM)
Silver Sorceress (DU)
Jenny Sparks (DM)
The Blur (Supreme Power) (MU) What all can Nightshade do (I didn't think she was Uber)?

[TheCorpulent1]

How fast is the Blur? I'm way behind on my Supreme Power reading and I never really got a sense of just how fast he is outside of "really fast."

[The Question]

What all can Nightshade do (I didn't think she was Uber)?


She's like Green Lantern, except her constructs are black. Plus, she teleports.

[The Question]

How fast is the Blur? I'm way behind on my Supreme Power reading and I never really got a sense of just how fast he is outside of "really fast."

I don't know. When in doubt, I just say he's as fast as the guy he's a counterpart for.

[The Leaguer]

Considering how fast the Flash is, that's a pretty weighty estimation without any way to really measure it.

[The Question]

Well, he ran from one city to where Hyperion and Nighthawk were fighting Redstone pretty damn fast. And I am pretty sure that he's supposed to be faster than Hyperion, who has been shown to be able to go several times faster than the speed of sound.

[The Leaguer]

Not to disrespect the Blur or anything, but that's a far cry from emptying a city of millions in under a second.

[The Question]

True. Well, I guess we could let JB decide.

[The Leaguer]

I'm pretty sure Max Mercury is still a medium. He might be a good measuring stick.

[The Question]

He is? Oh. Well. Alright.

[rigel7soldiers]

Well, he ran from one city to where Hyperion and Nighthawk were fighting Redstone pretty damn fast. And I am pretty sure that he's supposed to be faster than Hyperion, who has been shown to be able to go several times faster than the speed of sound.

But Hyperion can fly about as fast as he runs... it takes him about fifteen minutes to get from Colorado to, I think it was Mississippi...

[The Question]

Oh. Well then, I guess JB can make the call. I'm not entirely sure exactly hopw the ranking system works yet.

[X]

I'm pretty sure Max Mercury is still a medium. He might be a good measuring stick.

Max is a badass, regardless. TONS of experience and the guy can karate chop through steel beams like they're butter.

[X]

Oh. Well then, I guess JB can make the call. I'm not entirely sure exactly hopw the ranking system works yet.

Don't worry about it... It'll come in time and before you know it you'll basically be able to dictate these things in your head. :)

[TheCorpulent1]

I'm pretty sure Max Mercury is still a medium. He might be a good measuring stick.
Why? I thought we changed it so that all speedsters except the exceptionally sucky ones (see: Jesse Quick) were ubers.

[AnnoyingSilence]

Just a bit of advice, when you want a character, post like this...

Pick Up: Whoever

And if you want to drop...

Drop: So and so.yes, and post it in the transaction threads. Where its suppose to be done

[The Leaguer]

Why? I thought we changed it so that all speedsters except the exceptionally sucky ones (see: Jesse Quick) were ubers.
I don't know, I'm just going on what I thought his rating was.

[primemover]

Max is an uber now.

[Johnny Blaze]

Max is an Uber, as are most Speed Force users, save the sucky ones.

Blur...I'd say he's a MM. From what we've seen of him thus far, he seems like he's a bit faster than Quicksilver, but no where near the speed of the Flash. Plus he can't do any of the kick ass Speed Force tricks most Uber speedsters can.

[The Question]

Well, I already droped him, so it's not aproblem.

[X]

Max is an Uber, as are most Speed Force users, save the sucky ones.

Blur...I'd say he's a MM. From what we've seen of him thus far, he seems like he's a bit faster than Quicksilver, but no where near the speed of the Flash. Plus he can't do any of the kick ass Speed Force tricks most Uber speedsters can.

So, what do you think of Exiles Hyperion?

[Johnny Blaze]

So, what do you think of Exiles Hyperion?
He clearly falls into the Too Douche catagory and is thus not allowed. :o

[X]

Heh. I'll take your anwser in the other thread as the serious one. :D

[Johnny Blaze]

But, I like this thread's answer more. :(

[Union Jack]

what would doctor spectrum's rating be?
both supreme power and exiles??

[Johnny Blaze]

He's a Marvel Uber.

And I didn't know there was a Exiles version of Spectrum? :confused:

[X]

He's a Marvel Uber.

And I didn't know there was a Exiles version of Spectrum? :confused:

Wha? Why would the Supreme Power version be an uber?

[Union Jack]

ah my mistake not exiles..i meant the squadron supreme one...the one with the cool looking costume!

[The Question]

Wha? Why would the Supreme Power version be an uber?


Because when he and Hyperion fought, their punches could be measured on the richter scale.

[Johnny Blaze]

Wha? Why would the Supreme Power version be an uber?
Well, the Supreme Power one still needs to get fleshed out more, but I guess he can get in as a MM since he hasn't really done a whole helluva lot.

Still need to look him over before a final verdict.

[X]

Because when he and Hyperion fought, their punches could be measured on the richter scale.

Same thing happened when Golden Age Superman and the original Hulk fought. Both were quite weak compared to, hell, Spider-Man. :D

[X]

Well, the Supreme Power one still needs to get fleshed out more, but I guess he can get in as a MM since he hasn't really done a whole helluva lot.

Still need to look him over before a final verdict.

Cool. :) I'd say Middlweight myself. It just seems right considering what we've seen him do...

[Union Jack]

and what about the squadron supreme dr.spectrum...what would he be uber or middle?
he is basically another GL right?

[rigel7soldiers]

Well... whatever he thinks, the gem does. I think he's pushing the tuber bar.

[TheCorpulent1]

Squadron Doc Spectrum should definitely be an uber.

The Supreme Power one I'd agree is a middleweight based on what we've seen him do. He hasn't even really made constructs as far as I remember, he's just blasted stuff, flown, and poured energy that looks like a rainbow's vomit into the sky.

[X]

Well... whatever he thinks, the gem does. I think he's pushing the tuber bar.

No way. :o

Squadron Doc Spectrum should definitely be an uber.

The Supreme Power one I'd agree is a middleweight based on what we've seen him do. He hasn't even really made constructs as far as I remember, he's just blasted stuff, flown, and poured energy that looks like a rainbow's vomit into the sky.

Squadron Supreme Doc is more or less Quasar. They arm wrestled with their constructs and stalemated, Doc Spectrum's weapon constructs were punching through Quasar's shield...

Basically a bit less polish than Quasar. Not bad though.

[Union Jack]

hmmm...so the good doc is uber.

how would he fair against a green lantern?

does hals ring still have its yellow fault.?

[Gilrean]

Just so you know I am still around, I've just been on Holiday. :)

And welcome to A_French_Gal & The Question.

[Harlekin]

hmmm...so the good doc is uber.

how would he fair against a green lantern?

does hals ring still have its yellow fault.?
No it doesn't, not in the conventional sense anyway. He just needs to feel fear when fighting yellow stuff, and he can bust right through.

[TheCorpulent1]

Spectrum would stand a pretty good chance against a GL. Wasn't his weakness ultraviolet light or something? I'm pretty sure GLs can only produce energy in the green spectrum, so he's good there. Outside of that, it's just a battle of wills. Who's got the better constructs, who uses them best, etc. I think the GLs have like one or two advantages over Spectrum because they can phase and do a couple of other tricks, but they rarely ever use those powers.

[Union Jack]

cool.

[wiegeabo]

Spectrum would stand a pretty good chance against a GL. Wasn't his weakness ultraviolet light or something? I'm pretty sure GLs can only produce energy in the green spectrum, so he's good there. Outside of that, it's just a battle of wills. Who's got the better constructs, who uses them best, etc. I think the GLs have like one or two advantages over Spectrum because they can phase and do a couple of other tricks, but they rarely ever use those powers.


Kyle was able to create non-green constructs. Took a lot more willpower than normal constructs, but it can be done.

[Johnny Blaze]

Well, that is Kyle, and we all know he's the best GL. :D

[wiegeabo]

:up: :up: :up:

[TheCorpulent1]

Well, that is Kyle, and we all know he's the best GL. :D
After Alan, sure. :p

[Tropico]

:up::up::up:

[Da Docta]

hey all! im new to this, but wont be joining soon
just a question would moondragon be uber and would she have the mind gem?

[Tropico]

She would be an Uber, with or without the Gem.

[rigel7soldiers]

Wait, I don't understand. You are not joining? Then why ask?

[X]

Wait, I don't understand. You are not joining? Then why ask?

He wants to get some exposure to it before he jumps in? :confused:

[Da Docta]

exactly

[rigel7soldiers]

So, he is joining? But didn't he say he wasn't?

[X]

Maybe joining somewhere down the road.

We've got 20 people as of now anyway. That's all we need.

Blaze just needs to give us the schedule now. :)

[TheCorpulent1]

I'm bored and not tired, even though I have to wake up at 7 for class tomorrow morning. Coincidentally, I also happen to have written a prologue of sorts for my team this season to explain all of the changes. I didn't post it initially because it was just something I wrote up in my oodles of now-lamented free time over the summer and I wasn't even sure if my team would have the same members in another week, much less all the way to when the season was about to start. But, since I haven't changed them at all yet, it still makes sense. So, I was wondering: Would anyone be interested in reading it? It's not really that long, so I could probably fit it into another post or even edit this one if anyone's interested.

[Tropico]

Do it!

[The Question]

Sure. Why not?

[X]

Let me read it Corp, let me read it or I'll cut ya!

[TheCorpulent1]

All right, here you go:

The Gathering

King Thor, Hourman, Proctor, Batgirl, and Aquaman appear in a field of nothingness after their final, victorious battle. Vast tracts of empty white surround them on every side as far as the eye can see, which, in Hourman and Aquaman's cases, at least, is very far indeed.

"Neptune's beard," Aquaman sighs, "what now?"

"Lament not, friend Orin. Methinks..." Thor says stroking his beard. He looks around and notices a shimmering phenomenon off to his left. "Look there! Others approach."

Sure enough, the remaining members of the Creampuffs appear. Despero, Sersi, Thena, the Dark Flash, and Hank Pym all walk over to meet them.

"I recognize thee from various other recent battles."

"It appears," Hourman suggests, "that this may be the entirety of our 'team' for the tournament of battles we were just subjected to participating in."

"If that is the case, then this would be an unprecedented event. Ne'er hath all the ranks of our group been gathered in a single place before. Methinks we may have reached the end of our journey."

"Youthinks correctly, sir."

The Creampuffs all turn their heads, searching for the source of the strange voice. "Show thyself!" Thor commands.

"Ummmm... Nah, I'm good. Thanks, though."

"You are the one who has been bandying us about like playthings, aren't you?" Despero asks.

"Well, 'bandying' is a bit much, but yeah, that'd be me."

"Show yourself, coward! I'll rip your eyes out and feed them to you for these indignities!"

"Ok: 1) Eww. 2) Like I said, I'm good being this free-floating, omnipresent voice thingamabob. It's kind of fun, actually."

"Enough of this," Thor says, resuming command of the group. "Thou must have summoned us here for a purpose. Thou sayeth our time in this tournament has ended? Then release us and let us be on our way! I have long-overdue matters to attend to in Asgard and Midgard alike."

"Yeah, the matter of your own grave, basically, you big moron."

"What?!"

"Nothing, nothing. Anyway, you're right, I did bring all of you here for a purpose, and yes, some of you will be going home. So just sit tight, shut up, and I'll get down to business."

A strange, glowing blackness surrounds Despero. "Despero, buddy, I feel like I barely knew you. But alas, the big man decreed that you're just too damn badass to keep around, and as the big man sayeth, so we little men do... eth... or something. Anyway, point is, you're gone. See ya." The blackness creeps over Despero and closes in on itself, leaving only the strange whiteness of the surroundings behind.

Next, the glow surrounds Thena. "Thena, Thena... why'd you have to be so good at everything? I didn't even know how powerful you really were, so kudos on being hardcore and all, but I really can't use you in your current weight class. You're gone." She disappears.

"Aquaman. Oh, Aquaman. I hate to do it because I really think you're a much better guy than people give you credit for (despite that whole questionable phase of riding around on seahorses and being utterly useless) but, as they say, out with the old, in with the new. Seacrest out!"

"Hey, seahorses are a perfectly legitimate form of transporta--" Aquaman's words are cut off as he vanishes.

"Seahorses. What a newb. Anyway, it's your turn, Batgirl."

Batgirl simply nods.

"Ah, the sweet sound of silent resignation. I love this chick. Buh-bye. And, finally, Proctor."

"Me? I have participated in nearly every battle the team has fought! Why would you be so stupid as to get rid of me?!"

"You leave controversy like I leave my dirty socks: everywhere! Plus, I'm trading up. The others'll get what I'm talking about, but unfortunately you won't. Hey, if it's any consolation, you ended up snagging the MVP award. Way to go! Now get the **** out." Proctor disappears.

"All right, guys, so you're the survivors of our little cutting session. Congrats to all. But there are still a few changes left to make. Thor, Hourman, and Sersi: front and center!"

None of them move, though Sersi does perk her head up a bit.

"Fine, then, you bastages. Stay right there." The black, inverted glow surrounds them and they find themselves changing. Sersi vanishes, to be replaced by an entirely different version of herself, complete with new clothes--a green variant of her red costume under a brown Avengers jacket--and a different personality. Thor shines against the contrast of the blackness around him, radiating every drop of the Odinpower out of his pores, then loses his armor and returns to his traditional garb. The Worlogog tears itself out of Hourman's head and reforms its twisted, maze-like shape in front of him as his body transforms; his cloak shrinks and becomes a cape, his colors change, and his tachyon hourglass embeds itself into his chest in the center of a circular symbol of arrows. They look at themselves strangely at first, but the memories of their sudden transformations are quickly supplanted by their own memories of how they got to their current states.

"And now for the newbies." 5 new forms shimmer into view beside the current Creampuffs.

"I believe most of you know each other, so I'll just leave you to get acquainted."

"DANE!" Sersi yells, hopping into the Black Knight's arms.

"Serse," Dane says, surprised. "Uh... weren't you mad at me the last time we parted ways?"

"Oh, come now, Dane, that was but the tiniest of lovers' spats! It's wonderful to see you again!"

"Heh, well..." Dane is a bit overwhelmed. Sersi, being an immortal, tends to seize every moment, especially with men. It was actually one of the qualities he'd grown to love about Sersi way back when. "It's good to see you too."

Hourman immediately gravitates towards Brainiac 8 and the newly resurrected Vision, who wears a new body beneath his familiar yellow cape. "Greetings. I am Tyler, a diamond generation intelligent machine colony first activated in the year 85,271."

"Like I care," Brainiac 8 responds. She walks off by herself, pondering what the voice in her head meant about a tournament and having to work alongside these idiots.

The Vision looks at the being in front of him and feels a certain kinship with him. "I am the Vision. I was once a synthezoid, the second generation of the world's first android created by Professor Phineas T. Horton, restructured and reconfigured by the robot called Ultron. Now, I am--"

"A hell of a lot different, Vision," Hank comments. "What happened to you?"

"As I was saying, I have recently had my consciousness downloaded into this 30th-century armor, enhancing my offensive and defensive capabilities."

"Then you are, in your own way, much like me. I believe we have much to talk about..."

"I... would like that." The two androids walk off, discussing the nature of humanity from their unique, shared perspective, somewhere between insiders and outsiders.

"Yo, somebody better tell me what the **** is goin' on around here!" All heads turn to the petite teenage girl in their midst.

"Uh... who are you, kid? Another master martial artist curiously hidden in the guise of a tiny girl?" Walter asks.

"Not even, foo'. Name's Traci Thirteen. I'm a sorceress. This here's Leroy," she says, petting the iguana on her shoulder.

"Thou art a sorceress?" Thor chuckles. "By my troth, I must question our management in this game--"

There is a loud BOOM and Thor finds himself on his back. Purple energy sparks around Traci's hands. "Question what, big boy?" she asks with a cocky smile.

"Verily," Thor mutters, getting back to his feet, "I must stop underestimating these children."

"The girl raises a good point," a hooded man in a brown robe points out. "And I believe I can answer it."

"Since this appears to be a time for introductions," Thor comments, "perhaps thou should remove thy hood and greet us face-to-face first."

"Fair enough." The man pulls back his hood to reveal a familiar face to the Avengers present.

"Libra!" The Black Knight's sword is immediately out of its scabbard. "Stay right there! Where's the rest of the cartel, Libra? Huh? Are the stars aligned for you to be ring-leader this time?"

"Simmer down, Dane." Hank says. "Libra's on our side."

"Since when?" Sersi asks heatedly. "From what I heard, he turned over a new leaf to help his daughter Mantis, then went right back to Zodiac afterwards. How can we know he'll actually stick to one side now?"

"The stakes are high enough," Hank replies. "We can trust him."

"I trust thee implicitly, Hank. But thy judgment has been impaired in the past." Thor loosens Mjolnir in his belt. "What makes thee so confident?"

"You weren't in the Destiny War, Thor. Libra guided us then and even risked his own neck by jumping into battle alongside us. He's earned my trust."

"Very well," Thor says reluctantly. The other Avengers relax a bit as well.

"As I was saying," Libra continues, "I sense a disturbance in the balance. We have been appointed to right it. Every battle we are victorious in will restore the balance a little bit more."

"Yeah?" Traci says beneath an arched eyebrow. "And just how the **** you know that, horoscope man?"

"Can a tightrope walker explain how he balances on the line? Or does he simply... feel when he is balanced and when not?"

"Dag, that's deep." Traci turns to the others. "Dude's deep."

"I will put all of my knowledge and the martial skills the Priests of Pama have given me towards the task of defeating our opponents in pursuit of the balance."

"Awful generous of you, Libra. Anyway, I think I can speak for all of the Avengers here--and there's enough of us here to start a veritable low-rent branch of the team--when I say that we'll help however we can. It's what we do, after all."

"I have fought alongside this team in battle for months now," Hourman notes. "I will continue to do so."

"Same here," Walter says.

"****, I ain't got nothin' better to do," Traci shrugs. "Why not? Leroy and I are down."

The group turns to Brainiac 8, the only wolf in their midst. She stares back at them defiantly. "Normally I would destroy you all where you stand. But the readings I'm getting from some of you indicate that not even I could kill you all without severe and most probably fatal damage to myself, and I can't seem to find any means of escape from here. I was informed before I got here that winning these battles would furnish me an escape route, so if it gets me back to my father and our plans, I'll play. For now."

"Sweet, glad to see you all getting along so swell. And, since the Black Knight over there made such a good point, I'm officially rechristening you all... The Low-Rent Avengers!" With that, the group vanishes then reappears inside Avengers Mansion. "Since you're my own little bunch of Avengers, I figured this'd be the best place for you to spend your time between matches. Now sit tight, all. This should be a fun ride..."

[The Question]

Let me read it Corp, let me read it or I'll cut ya!


Roaches: I...I cut ya so bad, you.....you wish I hadn't cut ya so bad!

Brian: Those are some bad roaches.

Landlord: I blame the schools.

[The Question]

All right, here you go:

The Gathering

King Thor, Hourman, Proctor, Batgirl, and Aquaman appear in a field of nothingness after their final, victorious battle. Vast tracts of empty white surround them on every side as far as the eye can see, which, in Hourman and Aquaman's cases, at least, is very far indeed.

"Neptune's beard," Aquaman sighs, "what now?"

"Lament not, friend Orin. Methinks..." Thor says stroking his beard. He looks around and notices a shimmering phenomenon off to his left. "Look there! Others approach."

Sure enough, the remaining members of the Creampuffs appear. Despero, Sersi, Thena, the Dark Flash, and Hank Pym all walk over to meet them.

"I recognize thee from various other recent battles."

"It appears," Hourman suggests, "that this may be the entirety of our 'team' for the tournament of battles we were just subjected to participating in."

"If that is the case, then this would be an unprecedented event. Ne'er hath all the ranks of our group been gathered in a single place before. Methinks we may have reached the end of our journey."

"Youthinks correctly, sir."

The Creampuffs all turn their heads, searching for the source of the strange voice. "Show thyself!" Thor commands.

"Ummmm... Nah, I'm good. Thanks, though."

"You are the one who has been bandying us about like playthings, aren't you?" Despero asks.

"Well, 'bandying' is a bit much, but yeah, that'd be me."

"Show yourself, coward! I'll rip your eyes out and feed them to you for these indignities!"

"Ok: 1) Eww. 2) Like I said, I'm good being this free-floating, omnipresent voice thingamabob. It's kind of fun, actually."

"Enough of this," Thor says, resuming command of the group. "Thou must have summoned us here for a purpose. Thou sayeth our time in this tournament has ended? Then release us and let us be on our way! I have long-overdue matters to attend to in Asgard and Midgard alike."

"Yeah, the matter of your own grave, basically, you big moron."

"What?!"

"Nothing, nothing. Anyway, you're right, I did bring all of you here for a purpose, and yes, some of you will be going home. So just sit tight, shut up, and I'll get down to business."

A strange, glowing blackness surrounds Despero. "Despero, buddy, I feel like I barely knew you. But alas, the big man decreed that you're just too damn badass to keep around, and as the big man sayeth, so we little men do... eth... or something. Anyway, point is, you're gone. See ya." The blackness creeps over Despero and closes in on itself, leaving only the strange whiteness of the surroundings behind.

Next, the glow surrounds Thena. "Thena, Thena... why'd you have to be so good at everything? I didn't even know how powerful you really were, so kudos on being hardcore and all, but I really can't use you in your current weight class. You're gone." She disappears.

"Aquaman. Oh, Aquaman. I hate to do it because I really think you're a much better guy than people give you credit for (despite that whole questionable phase of riding around on seahorses and being utterly useless) but, as they say, out with the old, in with the new. Seacrest out!"

"Hey, seahorses are a perfectly legitimate form of transporta--" Aquaman's words are cut off as he vanishes.

"Seahorses. What a newb. Anyway, it's your turn, Batgirl."

Batgirl simply nods.

"Ah, the sweet sound of silent resignation. I love this chick. Buh-bye. And, finally, Proctor."

"Me? I have participated in nearly every battle the team has fought! Why would you be so stupid as to get rid of me?!"

"You leave controversy like I leave my dirty socks: everywhere! Plus, I'm trading up. The others'll get what I'm talking about, but unfortunately you won't. Hey, if it's any consolation, you ended up snagging the MVP award. Way to go! Now get the **** out." Proctor disappears.

"All right, guys, so you're the survivors of our little cutting session. Congrats to all. But there are still a few changes left to make. Thor, Hourman, and Sersi: front and center!"

None of them move, though Sersi does perk her head up a bit.

"Fine, then, you bastages. Stay right there." The black, inverted glow surrounds them and they find themselves changing. Sersi vanishes, to be replaced by an entirely different version of herself, complete with new clothes--a green variant of her red costume under a brown Avengers jacket--and a different personality. Thor shines against the contrast of the blackness around him, radiating every drop of the Odinpower out of his pores, then loses his armor and returns to his traditional garb. The Worlogog tears itself out of Hourman's head and reforms its twisted, maze-like shape in front of him as his body transforms; his cloak shrinks and becomes a cape, his colors change, and his tachyon hourglass embeds itself into his chest in the center of a circular symbol of arrows. They look at themselves strangely at first, but the memories of their sudden transformations are quickly supplanted by their own memories of how they got to their current states.

"And now for the newbies." 5 new forms shimmer into view beside the current Creampuffs.

"I believe most of you know each other, so I'll just leave you to get acquainted."

"DANE!" Sersi yells, hopping into the Black Knight's arms.

"Serse," Dane says, surprised. "Uh... weren't you mad at me the last time we parted ways?"

"Oh, come now, Dane, that was but the tiniest of lovers' spats! It's wonderful to see you again!"

"Heh, well..." Dane is a bit overwhelmed. Sersi, being an immortal, tends to seize every moment, especially with men. It was actually one of the qualities he'd grown to love about Sersi way back when. "It's good to see you too."

Hourman immediately gravitates towards Brainiac 8 and the newly resurrected Vision, who wears a new body beneath his familiar yellow cape. "Greetings. I am Tyler, a diamond generation intelligent machine colony first activated in the year 85,271."

"Like I care," Brainiac 8 responds. She walks off by herself, pondering what the voice in her head meant about a tournament and having to work alongside these idiots.

The Vision looks at the being in front of him and feels a certain kinship with him. "I am the Vision. I was once a synthezoid, the second generation of the world's first android created by Professor Phineas T. Horton, restructured and reconfigured by the robot called Ultron. Now, I am--"

"A hell of a lot different, Vision," Hank comments. "What happened to you?"

"As I was saying, I have recently had my consciousness downloaded into this 30th-century armor, enhancing my offensive and defensive capabilities."

"Then you are, in your own way, much like me. I believe we have much to talk about..."

"I... would like that." The two androids walk off, discussing the nature of humanity from their unique, shared perspective, somewhere between insiders and outsiders.

"Yo, somebody better tell me what the **** is goin' on around here!" All heads turn to the petite teenage girl in their midst.

"Uh... who are you, kid? Another master martial artist curiously hidden in the guise of a tiny girl?" Walter asks.

"Not even, foo'. Name's Traci Thirteen. I'm a sorceress. This here's Leroy," she says, petting the iguana on her shoulder.

"Thou art a sorceress?" Thor chuckles. "By my troth, I must question our management in this game--"

There is a loud BOOM and Thor finds himself on his back. Purple energy sparks around Traci's hands. "Question what, big boy?" she asks with a cocky smile.

"Verily," Thor mutters, getting back to his feet, "I must stop underestimating these children."

"The girl raises a good point," a hooded man in a brown robe points out. "And I believe I can answer it."

"Since this appears to be a time for introductions," Thor comments, "perhaps thou should remove thy hood and greet us face-to-face first."

"Fair enough." The man pulls back his hood to reveal a familiar face to the Avengers present.

"Libra!" The Black Knight's sword is immediately out of its scabbard. "Stay right there! Where's the rest of the cartel, Libra? Huh? Are the stars aligned for you to be ring-leader this time?"

"Simmer down, Dane." Hank says. "Libra's on our side."

"Since when?" Sersi asks heatedly. "From what I heard, he turned over a new leaf to help his daughter Mantis, then went right back to Zodiac afterwards. How can we know he'll actually stick to one side now?"

"The stakes are high enough," Hank replies. "We can trust him."

"I trust thee implicitly, Hank. But thy judgment has been impaired in the past." Thor loosens Mjolnir in his belt. "What makes thee so confident?"

"You weren't in the Destiny War, Thor. Libra guided us then and even risked his own neck by jumping into battle alongside us. He's earned my trust."

"Very well," Thor says reluctantly. The other Avengers relax a bit as well.

"As I was saying," Libra continues, "I sense a disturbance in the balance. We have been appointed to right it. Every battle we are victorious in will restore the balance a little bit more."

"Yeah?" Traci says beneath an arched eyebrow. "And just how the **** you know that, horoscope man?"

"Can a tightrope walker explain how he balances on the line? Or does he simply... feel when he is balanced and when not?"

"Dag, that's deep." Traci turns to the others. "Dude's deep."

"I will put all of my knowledge and the martial skills the Priests of Pama have given me towards the task of defeating our opponents in pursuit of the balance."

"Awful generous of you, Libra. Anyway, I think I can speak for all of the Avengers here--and there's enough of us here to start a veritable low-rent branch of the team--when I say that we'll help however we can. It's what we do, after all."

"I have fought alongside this team in battle for months now," Hourman notes. "I will continue to do so."

"Same here," Walter says.

"****, I ain't got nothin' better to do," Traci shrugs. "Why not? Leroy and I are down."

The group turns to Brainiac 8, the only wolf in their midst. She stares back at them defiantly. "Normally I would destroy you all where you stand. But the readings I'm getting from some of you indicate that not even I could kill you all without severe and most probably fatal damage to myself, and I can't seem to find any means of escape from here. I was informed before I got here that winning these battles would furnish me an escape route, so if it gets me back to my father and our plans, I'll play. For now."

"Sweet, glad to see you all getting along so swell. And, since the Black Knight over there made such a good point, I'm officially rechristening you all... The Low-Rent Avengers!" With that, the group vanishes then reappears inside Avengers Mansion. "Since you're my own little bunch of Avengers, I figured this'd be the best place for you to spend your time between matches. Now sit tight, all. This should be a fun ride..."


Great job! :up:

[X]

I'm not going to say "Hey, great job Corp" blah blah blah because I haven't read it as of now, and it's pretty late anyhow.

I'll look at it tommorow though. :up:

[The Leaguer]

I'm not going to say "Hey, great job Corp" blah blah blah
He just said your post sucked, Corp. You gonna take that?

[X]

He just said you post suck, Corp. You gonna take that in da butt?

Leaguer... Why do you always have to rag on Corp's sexuality? :(

[TheCorpulent1]

You guys make kittens cry. :(

Thanks, Question. :)

[Tropico]

Great prologue, Corp! The only part that makes me sad is the Aquaman part. Darnit! You're supposed to be an Aqua-booster!:(

[TheCorpulent1]

I know, but I just couldn't resist. Seahorses! It's funny! :D

[XFanTim]

Just so you know I am still around, I've just been on Holiday. :)Glad to hear it. I'd hate to have to do this season by myself. :)

[Johnny Blaze]

I know, but I just couldn't resist. Seahorses! It's funny! :D
They're a legitimate form of transportation. :mad:








And there will be no schedule up or start date set until every owner has a roster of 10 characters.

[The Leaguer]

You guys make kittens cry. :(
That's just because I keep kicking them so hard.

And there will be no schedule up or start date set until every owner has a roster of 10 characters.
You just keep finding ways to procrastinate. :p

[Johnny Blaze]

Fine. You want a start date? The DTL will start December 1st. That good enough for you, Leaguer. :mad:

[The Leaguer]

But that's, like, forever away! And December 1st is on a Thursday.

[The Question]

I'm cool with that.

[TheCorpulent1]

Fine. You want a start date? The DTL will start December 1st. That good enough for you, Leaguer. :mad:
Way to ruin it for everyone, Leaguer. You are teh suXX0rzz!!one :mad:

[wiegeabo]

But that's, like, forever away! And December 1st is on a Thursday.

Don't push JB man. Notice he didn't put a year with that date. :eek:

[X]

They're a legitimate form of transportation. :mad:

And there will be no schedule up or start date set until every owner has a roster of 10 characters.

Speaking of transportation, I just got my permit and drove my dads care home. :o :) :up:

Way to ruin it for everyone, Leaguer. You are teh suXX0rzz!!one :mad:

Just noticing? :(

[TheCorpulent1]

Speaking of transportation, I just got my permit and drove my dads care home. :o :) :up:
Drove his care home, huh? Did you make sure to drive... carefully? Ba-dum CHING!

[Guyverjay]

*throws tomatoes*

[Tropico]

Don't push JB man. Notice he didn't put a year with that date. :eek:

PUSH IT, LEAG! YOU KNOW YOU'RE ALWAYS RIGHT!!


Sings Salt'n'Pepa's "Push It"

[Tropico]

Speaking of transportation, I just got my permit and drove my dads care home. :o :) :up:

You have more than one dad and they share the same care? :confused:

[Da Docta]

bwahahaha

[Harlekin]

bwahahaha
Uhm... okay?

[Da Docta]

Uhm... okay?
and...what the hell is your problem? :confused:

[Harlekin]

and...what the hell is your problem? :confused:
I tend to have this slight malfunctioning when I suddenly see people coming into a thread they have (to my recollection) never posted in, start laughing about stuff that is largely centered around the dynamics and in-jokes between the participants.

But hey, be my guest, I'm not stopping you.

[X]

You have more than one dad and they share the same care? :confused:

Well, my mom is a real ****. All four of them.

[Da Docta]

I tend to have this slight malfunctioning when I suddenly see people coming into a thread they have (to my recollection) never posted in, start laughing about stuff that is largely centered around the dynamics and in-jokes between the participants.

But hey, be my guest, I'm not stopping you.
k :confused: :up:

[The Leaguer]

This thread is full of so much hatred. :(

[Harlekin]

This thread is full of so much hatred. :(
And repressed sexual urges... :o

[wiegeabo]

Ah, but it's ok since we're all different aspects of the same person.

[The Leaguer]

Take me! Take me now!

[Harlekin]

Take me! Take me now!
Want me to take control of that right hand again?

[X]

Ah, but it's ok since we're all different aspects of the same person.

Ahahaha, glad someone remembers that bit. :D If we didn't, this would all be very confusing. :(

You should see what some fanboy's say in The Hulk forums about me. Supposedly I'm literally half a dozen people or something. :D

[wiegeabo]

that should be ok in the Hulk forums since the Hulk is about a half dozen people in one body. :hulk: :D:

[Harlekin]

Yeah, baby! Work that magic! Oh yeah, baby! Who's the arm to your right hand!

[wiegeabo]

I thought we were lefties...:(

[Harlekin]

Not when it comes to that area. The right hand needs some loving too.

[wiegeabo]

Hey, that's my Cinemax hand!

[rigel7soldiers]

... Could I post a team intro like Corp just did?

[The Leaguer]

Yup.

[primemover]

... Could I post a team intro like Corp just did?

Yes you can, but if you mispell any word you will be banned from the league, it's a new rule . .

[Gilrean]

Glad to hear it. I'd hate to have to do this season by myself. :)

Did I scare ya Tim.

[XFanTim]

I tend to have this slight malfunctioning when I suddenly see people coming into a thread they have (to my recollection) never posted in, start laughing about stuff that is largely centered around the dynamics and in-jokes between the participants.

But hey, be my guest, I'm not stopping you.
And here I thought it was because you were skimming the thread and just interpreted his post as random maniacal laughter :joker: rather than a response to the previous post.


Not that I did that or anything. :o

EDIT: Upon looking back a couple pages, I see Dr. V L actually said he was going to hang around a bit to see if he wants to join the DTL at some future time. So it wasn't really the drive-by laugh Harl thought.

[XFanTim]

Ahahaha, glad someone remembers that bit. :D If we didn't, this would all be very confusing. :(

You should see what some fanboy's say in The Hulk forums about me. Supposedly I'm literally half a dozen people or something. :D
The Hulk fanboys think everyone who desputes their logic of "Hulk iz teh stongest one ther is!!1!!" must be the same person. That way they can keep insisting that most comic fans agree with them.

[XFanTim]

Did I scare ya Tim.
I was fairly confident you hadn't ditched me. :)

Actually, I've been travelling a bit myself recently, and only glancing at these boards periodically to see if the Season 3 start date had been announced. So I haven't really been paying all that much attention to who's been around. I'm back home now though -- just busy as sin. (Not sloth, one of the busy sins. Lust maybe.)

[TheCorpulent1]

You've been busy lusting? That's so... tasteless. I expected better of you, Tim. Maybe pride or greed.

Not gluttony, though. Keep away from gluttony. That one's mine! :mad:

[Harlekin]

EDIT: Upon looking back a couple pages, I see Dr. V L actually said he was going to hang around a bit to see if he wants to join the DTL at some future time. So it wasn't really the drive-by laugh Harl thought.
Ahhhh.

Sorry Doc.

[Da Docta]

no prob

[XFanTim]

You've been busy lusting? That's so... tasteless. I expected better of you, Tim. Maybe pride or greed.

Not gluttony, though. Keep away from gluttony. That one's mine! :mad:Busy as sin, not busy with sin! :mad: :D

Lust just struck me as a sin that's always gettin' busy. It sees a lot of action, that lust. ;)

Now wrath, that's one badass sin. :up:

[TheCorpulent1]

Wrath ain't bad. Pride seems to be the most comprehensive Deadly Sin, though. It can inspire or be inspired by just about any of the others.

[wiegeabo]

At least its not envy. That sin is a wuss. Can't even have it's own sin. It's got to want all the others.

[TheCorpulent1]

Yeah, envy's like the redheaded stepchild of the Seven Deadly Sins. :o

[TheCorpulent1]

I have a question: Would one of the current OMACs from the Infinite Crisis stuff be too uber?

[wiegeabo]

On their own, without the link to Brother I, I'd put them middle, maybe low uber. They have a lot of powers, but Supes took one out in orbit with a good punch to the face.

The problem comes if they'll linked to Brother I. Then they pretty much have access to all of Brother's data and strategies. Although, if that were limited to just prep-time access...Depends how much autonomous data and strategic planning they'd have access to.

A big problem would be convincing the OMAC not to kill the other members of its team.

[TheCorpulent1]

Not if it's linked to Brother Eye. Just write in that you, in your infinite coolness as owner of the team, have usurped control of Brother Eye or superceded its control of the OMAC. Your team's yours to do with as you please, after all. ;)

I was thinking of an OMAC with the full complement of powers, including the link to Brother Eye that enables it to download counter-measures. The download still takes time and stuff.

[wiegeabo]

That would definately be uber. But since only a few members were enough for Brother to realize one was going to be destroyed, I don't think it'd be tuber.

[TheCorpulent1]

Since only a few members of what? I don't understand that last sentence...

[wiegeabo]

I meant to have JLA there, or whatever Gardner, Fire, and Metamorpho are on. They ganged up on the OMAC attacking J'onnz and Red Rocket. Brother realized that the OMAC would be destroyed in less than a minute and had to dispatch 2 reinforcements.

[TheCorpulent1]

Yeah, numbers seem to be a major problem for the OMACs, since they take a couple seconds to download counter-measures and they look like they can only download one counter-measure at a time.

[Tropico]

Et tu, Corp? :mad:

[wiegeabo]

The only problem I'd really have with the OMAC's is the two version rule. Since the OMAC's are just normal people controlled by nanotech, technically each team could have more than one OMAC on their roster by claiming that it's a different person than anyone else's. We might have to make an execption with the OMACs and say only two are allowed in the League, period.

[The Leaguer]

Question: how will you control the OMAC at all without Brother I? Or are you drafting Brother I itself, in which case, is that legal?

[rigel7soldiers]

How about Buddy Blank OMAC? He's cool, or what?

[Roughneck]

The only problem I'd really have with the OMAC's is the two version rule. Since the OMAC's are just normal people controlled by nanotech, technically each team could have more than one OMAC on their roster by claiming that it's a different person than anyone else's. We might have to make an execption with the OMACs and say only two are allowed in the League, period.


That reminds me. Are Sentinels Allowed?

[TheCorpulent1]

Et tu, Corp? :mad:
I'm not drafting an OMAC. I'm never drafting a power copier or anything like one, period. I'm just curious because I'm catching up on the comics I've been too lazy to read and I happened to be reading The OMAC Project.
The only problem I'd really have with the OMAC's is the two version rule. Since the OMAC's are just normal people controlled by nanotech, technically each team could have more than one OMAC on their roster by claiming that it's a different person than anyone else's. We might have to make an execption with the OMACs and say only two are allowed in the League, period.
Or we could just limit the OMAC to its OMAC form.
Question: how will you control the OMAC at all without Brother I? Or are you drafting Brother I itself, in which case, is that legal?
The Punisher robot was controlled by Galactus to the same extent, but LV's got him. I assume the Lex Luthorized version of Superboy would be allowed too, and he was pretty heavily controlled by Lex's programming. The OMACs are still pretty capable of intelligent adaptation to situations based on the directives that Brother I puts in them.

[Johnny Blaze]

The OMACs fall in the same vein as the Brood, Sentinels, or any other "race", in which I'd allow one in the DTL, but you'd have to find a specific one; can't just have a random OMAC or what not.

(Small spoiler for those not reading the OMAC Project)

In that regard, maybe Sasha, the Black Knight, will be a decent character since she appears to be a type of OMAC-humanoid, hybrid...thing.

[The Leaguer]

The Punisher robot was controlled by Galactus to the same extent, but LV's got him. I assume the Lex Luthorized version of Superboy would be allowed too, and he was pretty heavily controlled by Lex's programming. The OMACs are still pretty capable of intelligent adaptation to situations based on the directives that Brother I puts in them.
I'm under the impression that the OMAC's would be useless without Brother I backing them. Without any link at all to Brother I, they wouldn't be able to turn from a human into an OMAC at all, let alone download the anti-powersets to various super-heroes.

[TheCorpulent1]

I was assuming that the OMAC would've permanently been in its OMAC state, since its human form is just some random noob. Under that idea, without Brother I it seems to me that all they'd be missing out on are their counter-measure downloads. Brother I hasn't been directing OMACs through every step of their battles; it lets them loose and monitors their battles, then downloads the counter-measures into them or orders them to retreat as necessary. Basically, without Brother I I think the OMACs would be pretty stupid Superman-level powerhouses. Which makes them basically useless as ubers, actually.

[Tropico]

Didn't we already see something like this when Brother I went offline to recompile for the next step after Max's death? They still operated under the last directives they were given.

[X]

Can we just stick one more person onto Jimmy's team and get on with this? I don't feel like waiting another week for him to get around to putting one more ****ing person on his team.

[The Leaguer]

Didn't we already see something like this when Brother I went offline to recompile for the next step after Max's death? They still operated under the last directives they were given.
That's what I mean: they wouldn't even have a "last directives they were given" because they would never have any FIRST directives they were given, because they would be totally cut off from Brother I thanks to the DTL rules.

[Johnny Blaze]

Can we just stick one more person onto Jimmy's team and get on with this? I don't feel like waiting another week for him to get around to putting one more ****ing person on his team.
I gather he already has a team set up; I'm just waiting for him to post it up along with his team name.

[Tropico]

That's what I mean: they wouldn't even have a "last directives they were given" because they would never have any FIRST directives they were given, because they would be totally cut off from Brother I thanks to the DTL rules.

The team leader could act as his Brother I, at least in giving it orders. I was going to suggest that the OMAC have access to Brother I only during prep-time, but then it sounded too much like having an Uté kind of character and we all know how that went.

[Union Jack]

A question.

if written well,could it be believed by you guys that say someone like robin could take down say namor??

what i am saying is in the comics spidey for example goes up against guys well out of his power range and does quite well,wouyld you believe and vote for that if written or just the old uber V uber etc etc...

After all this'd be writers privelidge to write the character how you feel fit??

[TheCorpulent1]

It'd have to be a really impressive explanation. People tend to weed out the character stupidity that's present in basically all of the comics ever made with these characters. You'd have to come up with a plausible scenario where Robin, acting at his best with all of the skills and knowledge at his disposal, beat Namor acting at his best with all of his skills, powers, and knowledge. If you dumb either of them down for the sake of your write-up, you can bet that someone will jump on it--either your opponent in the debate or the other owners in the votes.

That said, there are many, many instances where it's plausible for a character in a lower weight class to take down one in a higher weight class. I had Proctor, a regular, take down some of the most impressive uber-level mages last season. It all depends on each character's respective abilities and how they measure up to each other.

[The Leaguer]

The team leader could act as his Brother I, at least in giving it orders. I was going to suggest that the OMAC have access to Brother I only during prep-time, but then it sounded too much like having an Uté kind of character and we all know how that went.
But Brother I does much more than just give orders, it directly downloads various commands and powersets. An OMAC has yet to obey a human who wasn't using Brother I to transmit commands, so there's no reason to assume that it's possible.

[TheCorpulent1]

Well, if we're allowed to take the place of Brother I, we wouldn't be mere humans in the context. We'd be glowing balls of light or whatever other cockamamie form other owners choose to present themselves as. We're basically omnipotent as far as our team goes.

I personally think that's kind of lame, though, so I'd just say forget about the OMACs altogether. They're wusses anyway.

[The Leaguer]

Making yourself Brother I would be pretty lame, and would call for quite a bit more interference in the actual match by the owners. It's like declaring myself Shazam and giving eveyrone on my team the powers of the Marvel Family.

[Tropico]

But Brother I does much more than just give orders, it directly downloads various commands and powersets. An OMAC has yet to obey a human who wasn't using Brother I to transmit commands, so there's no reason to assume that it's possible.

We have teams of people working together. We have uncontrollable characters like Doomsday running aorund and NOT killing their entire team. Is it really far fetched to think that someone else could give orders to an OMAC unit? I think it would be plausible. If you read my previous post you'll see that I pointed out (at least in giving orders or directives), I'm aware of the other functions Brother I has but didn't address them because that is the part that I don't see how it would be plausible to do it. If your problem is with someone giving the units commands, that person could include Maxwell Lord in his/her line up and the problem is solved. That, and the person would have a Jesse kind of character in his/her team which would be a pretty decent character.

[X]

We have teams of people working together. We have uncontrollable characters like Doomsday running aorund and NOT killing their entire team.

That's usually done with an actual plan.

He evolves to what's threatening him. Store him in another dimension. No threat, he can do whatever he pleases until he's needed. Then drop him in the middle of the other team.

Manchester Black managed to "reprogram" Doomsday as well.

It's like that Shield file that was in a comic recently where they talked of The Hulk as a doomsday weapon of a sort. Contain him for a bit and then drop him in the middle of, say, Latveria. On top of him being able to finish the job, no one's responsible as The Hulk has always wandered around.

[TheCorpulent1]

Except that Doom would pwn the Hulk up, down, and sideways and probably end up taking his power for himself if he ever set foot in Latveria. :p

[X]

Except that Doom would pwn the Hulk up, down, and sideways and probably end up taking his power for himself if he ever set foot in Latveria. :p

Not if he was dropped in there out of nowhere. :D

But, on the whole, you're right. Doom's been shown to have devices on his wrist gauntlet to tinker with the nervous system of The Gray Hulk, rendering him completely useless, basically.

[Tropico]

That's usually done with an actual plan.

He evolves to what's threatening him. Store him in another dimension. No threat, he can do whatever he pleases until he's needed. Then drop him in the middle of the other team.

Manchester Black managed to "reprogram" Doomsday as well.
I'm aware of that. I'm also painfully aware at how convenient it is that Doomsday's owner(s) can use the same method every week to contain him and we still swallow it. If Doomsday can evolve to kill an energy being, don't you think that he would "grow" an adaptation after a couple of weeks that would make him immune to those bastards that are using him against his will? But, we always give a certain amount of leeway to what happens in the sories here.:D

It's like that Shield file that was in a comic recently where they talked of The Hulk as a doomsday weapon of a sort. Contain him for a bit and then drop him in the middle of, say, Latveria. On top of him being able to finish the job, no one's responsible as The Hulk has always wandered around.

The point is, Mr. X, that if people think it's plausible for sworn enemies to work together in a team; or even villians from opposing teams that would go with each other instead of their respective teams; I'm sure there are plausible ways to introduce someone like OMAC into the team, even without Brother I.

[X]

The point is, Mr. X, that if people think it's plausible for sworn enemies to work together in a team; or even villians from opposing teams that would go with each other instead of their respective teams; I'm sure there are plausible ways to introduce someone like OMAC into the team, even without Brother I.

Hey, I was just saying, there is not threat floating around in some limbo dimension. Even if he could adapt from something that isn't threatening him (What's he going to do, adapt so he can adapt?) which I doubt, you could always just put him in stasis.

Or do what the JLA did and teleport parts of his atoms around at different intervels, constantly.

[The Leaguer]

We have teams of people working together. We have uncontrollable characters like Doomsday running aorund and NOT killing their entire team. Is it really far fetched to think that someone else could give orders to an OMAC unit?
In no way is that the same thing. Doomsday doesn't require anyone not only to tell him exactly what to do, but directly enable him to do it. Doomsday can be guided. The OMAC's are literally useless unless they recieve direct input from Brother I. You can't fool an OMAC in human form into downloading Superman's anti-powerset.

If you read my previous post you'll see that I pointed out (at least in giving orders or directives), I'm aware of the other functions Brother I has but didn't address them because that is the part that I don't see how it would be plausible to do it.
So you're saying you agree?

[Tropico]

In no way is that the same thing. Doomsday doesn't require anyone not only to tell him exactly what to do, but directly enable him to do it. Doomsday can be guided. The OMAC's are literally useless unless they recieve direct input from Brother I. You can't fool an OMAC in human form into downloading Superman's anti-powerset.


So you're saying you agree?

Couldn't there be an OMAC stuck in OMAC mode? Let me make this simpler. I don't see a problem with an OMAC that has the base powers we've seen ALL the other OMAC's use. The orders part is quite easy to get around with, frankly. The downloading powers part is what someone would have to come up with . CONVINCINGLY.

And you people are still missing the point...you come up with ways so that Doomsday can play well with others, but since you (apparently) don't want OMAC around you can't come up with anything. It's a constant double standard and a staple of the DTL: people can't be bothered to see things that they don't want to. Some people here are VERY notable for trying to introduce characters that are CLEARLY over the bar, but they still look for ways to make it float. Some even have the gall to admit the character was over the bar after they're denied.:up: But when it comes to other people's characters...suddenly Big Sir is smarter than all of them put together.

[X]

And you people are still missing the point...

When multiple people aren't agreeing or understanding you, there's more than likely a problem that has nothing to do with them, dude.

[Tropico]

When multiple people aren't agreeing or understanding you, there's more than likely a problem that has nothing to do with them, dude.

Actually, if you look at my first post you'll see that I gave Doomsday as an example and you focused on him, dude. That wasn't the point, dude.

I gave him as an example, there are other equally uncontrollable, violent or antagonistic characters that shouldn't be working well or at all with their teammates and we've come up with ways to make it work. We've come up with ways to make Cerebro and Onslaught to be used as playable characters, if someone was really pushing for OMAC I'm sure we could make this work, too.;):D

[X]

Doomsday was an extremely poor "example", that's why multiple people questioned it.

[Tropico]

Doomsday was an extremely poor "example", that's why multiple people questioned it.

Really? He seems to be a character where you have to come up with a way for him to wrk with the others, like OMAC would be. If the OMAC unit were to follow some of the basic directives we've seen it use it would attack his own team as well as the opposing one. Just as Doomsday would do if we didn't conveniently write him the way we need him in the DTL.:D

[TheCorpulent1]

I think they're trying to intimate that Doomsday is a different case because he can think for himself. That doesn't really make sense, though, since the OMACs are obviously self-sufficient enough to engage opponents in combat. Brother Eye just gives them counter-measures and really specific instructions, like when it wants them to retreat because it knows the OMAC's chances of winning are low.

[Guyverjay]

The doomsday example is poop since I have yet to actually use the uncontrollable version:p

[Tropico]

The doomsday example is poop since I have yet to actually use the uncontrollable version:p

You're not the only one that has had a Doomsday. The other owner came up with a contrived situation to make him manageable. At least Corp gets the point!:D This insistence to focus on one thing that is beside the point I was making smacks of somethin. Or someone. Hmmmm, I can't remember at the moment.:confused:

[X]

Really? He seems to be a character where you have to come up with a way for him to wrk with the others, like OMAC would be. If the OMAC unit were to follow some of the basic directives we've seen it use it would attack his own team as well as the opposing one. Just as Doomsday would do if we didn't conveniently write him the way we need him in the DTL.:D

And when did I disagree with OMAC? I'm fine with OMAC. I just pointed our your shoddy Doomsday comparison.

[Tropico]

And when did I disagree with OMAC? I'm fine with OMAC. I just pointed our your shoddy Doomsday comparison.

http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v248/Tropico/flogging.jpg

:D
Whatever, dude!

[TheCorpulent1]

X looks like a skeleton pirate. :D

[The Leaguer]

http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v248/Tropico/flogging.jpg

:D
Whatever, dude!
Hahahahahahahahaha!

[Tropico]

X looks like a skeleton pirate. :D

Now I'm gonna catch hell because you guys are putting X in the pic. :( I always label the people in the pics if I mean it that way. :(