Dream Team League (Discussion)

[AnnoyingSilence]

Man!

[XFanTim]

Wieg: One thing that would be helpful is if you edit the schedule in the update thread after each week's matches are over to put the winners in bold.

E.g., "Incorrigible Punkasses vs. Gods and Men" goes to "Incorrigible Punkasses vs. Gods and Men", since Corp won.

That makes it a lot easier to check who holds the head-to-head tiebreak.
see above

[XFanTim]

Like this:

Week1 (Area-51)
Devastating Silence vs. Lost Flock
Chaos & Order vs. Justice Knights
The All New, All Different Exiles vs. The Collective POWdER of the Superegos
Funky Fresh vs. Guyver's Goons
The Underdogs vs. Simple Kind Of Lovelies
The Atomic Punks vs. The New Defenders
The Incorrigible Punkasses vs. Gods and Men
Claws of Veeshan vs. Justice Society

Week2 (Frozen Antarctic)
Gods and Men vs. The New Defenders
The All New, All Different Exiles vs. Justice Knights
Chaos & Order vs. The Underdogs
The Incorrigible Punkasses vs. Justice Society
Funky Fresh vs. The Atomic Punks
Simple Kind Of Lovelies vs. Guyver's Goons
The Collective POWdER of the Superegos vs. Lost Flock
Devastating Silence vs. Claws of Veeshan

[wiegeabo]

...moving from Transactions Thread.


:p

[LadyVader]

So when are the starting line-ups due for this week?

[POWdER-man]

umm....last night...:eek:

I'm sure wieg would accept it if you do it now though....this schedule is weird...

[JewishHobbit]

Crap! I forgot about line ups. That totally sucks.

[POWdER-man]

Well hurry up jew boy......:mad:

[XFanTim]

Yeah, technically starting lineups were do yesterday, and you have until the end of today to use "swap tokens" (once Weig posts the new matches).

Maybe we need to publicize this better.

[XFanTim]

Speaking of which, where are the new matches? It's hard to make swaps if no one knows who they're facing. (Or do I have the deadlines wrong?)

EDIT: Although I guess Wieg can't post the matches if he's being lenient and waiting for the rest of the lineups. (JB would have crushed you all under his iron fist by now. Not for forgetting the lineup deadline, but just on general principle.)

[wiegeabo]

I've been going kind of easy on stuff for these first few weeks while we get used to everything new.

But after that, the Iron Fist will come down. Oh yes, there will be a lot of fisting!

...
...I mean...Iron Fist...enforcment...um...hard.......what were we talking about again? :confused:

[JewishHobbit]

Something about fisting hard, I dunno.

[wiegeabo]

To give you a chance to use your swap token, here's the lineups I've received for week 3. Any team whose lineup isn't listed will be using the lineup from last week.


Gods and Men vs. The All New, All Different Exiles
Thor (MU)
Dr. Fate IV (Hector Hall) (DU)
Vision (MM)
Magik (Exiles) (MR) (F)
Indigo (DR) (F)

Dr. Light (DU)
Magneto (The End) (MU)
Chronomancer (MM)
Animal Man (Titans of Tomorrow) (DR)
Deathstroke (DR)

Justice Knights vs. The New Defenders
Juggernaut (MU)
Firestorm (Jason Rusch) (DU)
Captain Britain (MM)
Batman (DR) (Obviously)
Darkclaw (DR)

Dr. Doom (Power Cosmic) (MU)
Paragon (DU)
Diablo (MM)
Fascination (MR)
Grimbor (Pre-Zero Hour) (DR)

Chaos & Order vs. The Incorrigible Punkasses
Thor (Herald of Galactus) (MU)
Loki ("The Reigning") (MU)
Byakko (DM)
Ambrose Chase (DR)
Black Knight (Dane Whitman) (MR)

Silver Surfer (Earth M) (MU)
Dr. Fate (DU)
Vision (eXiles) (MM)
Deadline (DR)
Proctor (MR)

Justice Society vs. The Underdogs
Vartox (DU)
Beta Ray Bill (MU)
Comet Man (MM)
Valkyrie (MR)(F)
Hawkman (DR)

Superman (Kal-L) (DU)
Hulk (MU)
Captain America (MR)
Blue Beetle (DR)
Booster Gold (DR)

Funky Fresh vs. Simple Kind Of Lovelies
Adam Warlock
Savitar
Brainiac 417
Little Boy Blue (Homelands)
Spider-Man (Iron Spidey)

Wonder Woman DU
Jaine Warlock MU
Gambit MM
Deadpool MR
Nemsis DR

Guyver's Goons vs. The Atomic Punks
Quasar (Operation Galactic Storm) (MU)
Dr. Strange/Man-Thing (MU)
Atom one million (DM)
Zeitgeist (MR)
Chunk (DR)

Nimrod (MU)
Samaritan (DU)
Nightshade (DM)
Karate Kid (DR)
Kiden (MR)

The Collective POWdER of the Superegos vs. Devastating Silence
Cassandra Nova (MU)
Green Lantern (Kal-El) (DU)
Shaman (MM)
Prometheus (DR)
Morph (MR)

Captain Marvel (Genis x2) (MU)
Protex (DU)
Blink (MR)
Plastic Man (Dark Knight Strikes Back) (DR)
Tap (DR)

Claws of Veeshan vs. Lost Flock
Quasar (MU)
Mordru (Princes of Darkness) (DU)
Iceman (Age of Apocalypse) (MM)
Zauriel (DR)
Aztek (DR)

Mary Marvel (DU)
Atlan (DU)
Black Tom (Plant form) (MM)
Speedball (MR)
Namorita (MR)

[TheCorpulent1]

I've been going kind of easy on stuff for these first few weeks while we get used to everything new.

But after that, the Iron Fist will come down. Oh yes, there will be a lot of fisting!

...
...I mean...Iron Fist...enforcment...um...hard.......what were we talking about again?
Danny Rand, apparently. :confused:

[JewishHobbit]

Now see, with W's posting the line ups it just takes away from your comment Corp. Timing is everything.

[TheCorpulent1]

I quoted and made it all better. :p

On an entirely unrelated note, the fact that I called everyone wieg would pick for this match except Deadline is almost as creepy as your Locke avatar. :eek:

[Harlekin]

Gods and Men vs. The All New, All Different Exiles
Thor (MU)
Dr. Fate IV (Hector Hall) (DU)
Vision (MM)
Magik (Exiles) (MR) (F)
Indigo (DR) (F)

Dr. Light (DU)
Magneto (The End) (MU)
Chronomancer (MM)
Animal Man (Titans of Tomorrow) (DR)
Deathstroke (DR)
Well, I'll be keeping onto my swap tokens a little longer.

[JewishHobbit]

On an entirely unrelated note, the fact that I called everyone wieg would pick for this match except Deadline is almost as creepy as your Locke avatar.

My Locke Avatar isn't creepy... it's refreshing.

I called Gods and Men completely wrong save for maybe Magik :)

I was hoping for Cosmic Spidey

[wiegeabo]

I quoted and made it all better. :p

On an entirely unrelated note, the fact that I called everyone wieg would pick for this match except Deadline is almost as creepy as your Locke avatar. :eek:


I called everyone on your team except Thor. :up:
I had been expecting Walter.

[TheCorpulent1]

I decided to stop putting off writing the inevitable Thor/Loki scene. :)
My Locke Avatar isn't creepy... it's refreshing.
He just looks hilarious. Locke doesn't look quite right when he's happy. He's supposed to brood and wax philosophic about predestination all the time.

[Harlekin]

My Locke Avatar isn't creepy... it's refreshing.

I called Gods and Men completely wrong save for maybe Magik :)

I was hoping for Cosmic Spidey
Well, I expected your use of Magneto and Chronomancer, but I didn't expect the Deathstroke/Animal Man team-up. I'm going to require some info on Mags though, as in what new stuff he can do now that's he just an energy being.

I especially avoided the use of Spidey for various reasons.

[JewishHobbit]

Well, I'll be keeping onto my swap tokens a little longer.

Yeah, I'm good too. I think this could be a good match up. Could you maybe give me some idea of how Dr. Fate works, and what type of magicy stuff he can do?

[JewishHobbit]

Well, I expected your use of Magneto and Chronomancer, but I didn't expect the Deathstroke/Animal Man team-up. I'm going to require some info on Mags though, as in what new stuff he can do now that's he just an energy being.

I especially avoided the use of Spidey for various reasons.

Magneto is now made up completely of energy, no physical body. He does still have a mind, so you can attack that. He can absorb energy now and it makes him stronger. They never specified what type of energy, but he absorbed everything the Shi'ar were throwing at him. I really don't know what to think of magical energy though... stuff like Dr. Fate... or maybe Thor stuff. Should we make a call on that before our match starts?

These skeptical things are the reasons why I'm kinda on the look out for another Uber. I'm debating replacing both him and Animal Man (T.o.T).

[JewishHobbit]

I decided to stop putting off writing the inevitable Thor/Loki scene. :)

He just looks hilarious. Locke doesn't look quite right when he's happy. He's supposed to brood and wax philosophic about predestination all the time.

I like happy Locke :(

[Harlekin]

Yeah, I'm good too. I think this could be a good match up. Could you maybe give me some idea of how Dr. Fate works, and what type of magicy stuff he can do?
Well, the easiest analogy to make is Dr. Strange, so if you're familiar with him you have the basics of what Dr. Fate can do and is. His magic isn't really that limited, but he is more of a hands on kind of guy than somebody like Strange is. That means making a magical construct (like say, a mace) and bashing people's heads in with it is more of a preferred method than a complex spell. Complex spells he can do however, make no mistake, but he's also a bit of a physical guy.

Magneto is now made up completely of energy, no physical body. He does still have a mind, so you can attack that. He can absorb energy now and it makes him stronger. They never specified what type of energy, but he absorbed everything the Shi'ar were throwing at him. I really don't know what to think of magical energy though... stuff like Dr. Fate... or maybe Thor stuff. Should we make a call on that before our match starts?
Thanks for the info first off. Magical energy usually trumps other kinds of energy, and I'd wager that pure magical energy, as in magic blasts would not be absorbed by Mags. Using magic to manipulate other forms of energy and fire those however, I could see Maggy absorbing.

[JewishHobbit]

I'm not really familiar with Dr. Strange at all either... I don't read a lot of stuff with Magic in it unfortunately... so I'm kinda up in the air.

[Harlekin]

I'm really sucky when it comes to stuff like feats, but I take it you've got CDisplay? I can at least send you a few links that will give you the opportunity to read the 2003 Dr. Fate mini (which stars the Dr. Fate I have). Is it okay if I set that up tomorrow? Gonna hit the sack in the minute.

[JewishHobbit]

Sounds good man. Yeah I have CDisplay, just pm the link to me whenever.

[Harlekin]

That's cool. I'll get those to you tomorrow.

[Johnny Blaze]

Speaking of the 03 Fate mini...who was it that had the Curse on there team? Was it you, Corp?

EDIT: Although I guess Wieg can't post the matches if he's being lenient and waiting for the rest of the lineups. (JB would have crushed you all under his iron fist by now. Not for forgetting the lineup deadline, but just on general principle.)
Yeah, I would've said "sucks for you if you didn't get your lineup in on time. Next time get your ass on the ball." :D

[TheCorpulent1]

Yeah, I had the Curse on my team for a while.

[BAH HUMBBUG!]

Hey guys, X had asked me to join a few months ago but I declined since I didn't really have the time. But with finals over this week I was wondering what the current season roster is like?

[punishermax]

Speaking of X, when was the last time he was around?

[Harlekin]

That's been a while, and with the current 2 weeks participation rule, he really should be 'dropped' from the competition, officially speaking. Maybe Humbbug could take his team?

[XFanTim]

Well, given that Prime and Trop have already dropped, it's not like there's any shortage of available teams.

[XFanTim]

Hey guys, X had asked me to join a few months ago but I declined since I didn't really have the time. But with finals over this week I was wondering what the current season roster is like?
I've posted some info for you over in the DTL Transactions thread.

[Johnny Blaze]

That's been a while, and with the current 2 weeks participation rule, he really should be 'dropped' from the competition, officially speaking. Maybe Humbbug could take his team?
I didn't think it ever got scaled back to two weeks. I know I mentioned doing something like that, and so did Tim I believe, but I think it's still three weeks.

[POWdER-man]

Since their are line ups open for grabs right now, I don't think there is a need to drop X. His team is not going to win without a debate, so it doesn't matter in that sense.

The only thing is if it's left ownerless than his characters are up for grabs....

[Johnny Blaze]

The only thing is if it's left ownerless than his characters are up for grabs....
Yes, that's the big thing around here. When a team looks like it's going to be made ownerless, that's when the buzzards start circling. :D

[wiegeabo]

I can't remember exactly what I said, and I don't want to go searching through the pages for the post I made. (I probably have it written down at home, but since I'm at work...)

So what I'll say is this. If you miss three consecutive weeks, your team is declared ownerless. Now, you're allowed to pick your team back up if you promise to participate every week from that point on. But if you miss one more week, you're out for the season. (With the exceptions of big emergencies and things of that nature of course.)

This means that X, Leaguer, and UJ/Nightwing and are on cusp of losing teams. But since Leaguer and 'Wing have said they'd be posting this week, I'm not too worried. X on the other hand, his team's looking open...

[Nightwing.]

i posted in week 2!!!!!!

i aint close to losing my team.yeah it wasnt alot but it was a valid contribution

[POWdER-man]

Yeah you did, and you voted so I don't they should be considered as missing....

[BAH HUMBBUG!]

Are beings that died allowed?

[Johnny Blaze]

Are beings that died allowed?
Sure, as long as they can fit under the Uber bar. :up:

[BAH HUMBBUG!]

Gotcha :up:

So then would The Ancient One make it under the bar?

[XFanTim]

I think the Ancient One would be OK, assuming he's about on Strange's level.

[Johnny Blaze]

I think the Ancient One would be OK, assuming he's about on Strange's level.
I'm pretty sure someone had him in as an Uber a few seasons back already.

Course, that was back when characters like Timazo were allowed, so...yeah... :o

[wiegeabo]

i posted in week 2!!!!!!

i aint close to losing my team.yeah it wasnt alot but it was a valid contribution

That's true. You only missed the first week because UJ couldn't do anything.

[Tropico]

I pity you guys where the X-3 movie starts on Friday. I just saw it and it totally kicks ass!!!!:D

And welcome Humbug to the DTL.:up: (See, it's not totally OT!)

[wiegeabo]

I pity you guys where the X-3 movie starts on Friday. I just saw it and it totally kicks ass!!!!:D


You....You Shut Up!! :mad:

[BAH HUMBBUG!]

I pity you guys where the X-3 movie starts on Friday. I just saw it and it totally kicks ass!!!!:D

And welcome Humbug to the DTL.:up: (See, it's not totally OT!)

Curious about X3, don't tell me any specifics, but I heard the movie is very entertaining but the story lacks a lot. Oh and thanks Tropico :D

OT? :confused:

[Nightwing.]

im watchin tomorrow so what if you get it before us......we're better.....ha

beat that for a factual comeback

[wiegeabo]

...from Transactions Thread.

Hitler's sounding not well defined, at least to me. Let me see if I got this straight.

He's the DC version of our Adolf Hitler. No powers or anything like that. But he does have the Spear of Destiny. And the Spear can injure/kill superpowered characters. Even magically based ones.

But I have questions about the other powers.

Hitler's taint corrupts the user how? If someone else picks it up they carry out Hitler's wishes, or turn evil, or something?
Although unleashing Ragnarok is a tuber thing, what kind of spells could be placed on the Spear?
If Hitler could get the people in Axis countries under his power instantly, could he do the same to those on his team?
And how do the superheroes lose their powers? If he hits them with the Spear, do they lose them? Or is it if they just get too close? How long does the power loss last?

[TheCorpulent1]

The Spear of Destiny was recently used in the last JSA Classified arc. That arc pretty clearly showed that the Spear, for all its crazy crap against metahumans, was totally powerless against normal people. All Jay Garrick had to do was kill Wildcat so that he'd be back down to just one life (he had 8 extras magically given to him) and Wildcat then beat the crap out of the guy with the Spear.

[Guyverjay]

pointless character to be honest:o

[TheCorpulent1]

Didn't Marvel have Hitler still running around as the Hate-Monger? I think he actually had powers, too.

[Guyverjay]

He's dead

Offed by cap america

[TheCorpulent1]

Cool. :up:

[BAH HUMBBUG!]

You mean Elders of the Universe, right? "Eternals" are people like Sersi, who is definitely allowed.



I think some (all?) of the other Elders would be fine. Champion for instance is basically just a top level bruiser. The problem with the Runner is he has speed on just such a ridiculous level, as well as some extremely high-end feats like beating the Silver Surfer.

Sweet, so I could pick up the Champion? Even despite the fact that his power is derived from the Power Primodial?

[BAH HUMBBUG!]

The Spear of Destiny was recently used in the last JSA Classified arc. That arc pretty clearly showed that the Spear, for all its crazy crap against metahumans, was totally powerless against normal people. All Jay Garrick had to do was kill Wildcat so that he'd be back down to just one life (he had 8 extras magically given to him) and Wildcat then beat the crap out of the guy with the Spear.

Cray crap meaning? Killing them, taking away their powers, making them normal?

[XFanTim]

Sweet, so I could pick up the Champion? Even despite the fact that his power is derived from the Power Primodial?
I don't see why not. :up:

[XFanTim]

OT? :confused:
He's saying his post wasn't completely Off Topic.

But you can tell I'm a geek, because the first thing I thought when I saw OT was "Original Trilogy". As opposed to CPT: Crappy Prequel Trilogy.

[BAH HUMBBUG!]

Sounds good :D

[Elijya]

Thanos took down Champion thanks to good planning, he's totally ok

[BAH HUMBBUG!]

Thanos took down Champion thanks to good planning, he's totally ok

Yes I know this, and he had the Power Gem.

[Tropico]

Curious about X3, don't tell me any specifics, but I heard the movie is very entertaining but the story lacks a lot. Oh and thanks Tropico :D

OT? :confused:

The story DOES lack a few details but I feel it was because it was a fast moving storyline. Personally, I don't see all the "character development" some of the actors and the director were talking about. The characters didn't get fleshed out more than they did in the previous movies. There are a few of them that got a bit of a spotlight and you can guess at least one of them because of the spin-off.

If you just want to geek out and ENJOY the movie as opposed to being a nerd and dissecting it, there's plenty to see and a truckload of special effects displaying all kinds of mutant powers. I was just happy to see that and catch stuff that no other people did like Beast's "Oh my stars and garters!".

BTW...

STAY AFTER THE CREDITS TO WATCH A SMALL SCENE!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

[Harlekin]

Hitler's taint corrupts the user how? If someone else picks it up they carry out Hitler's wishes, or turn evil, or something?
They turn evil. Heck, it even got to Superman. It's basically like the ring from LotR, but with some extra Nazi-ism.

Although unleashing Ragnarok is a tuber thing, what kind of spells could be placed on the Spear?
No idea.

If Hitler could get the people in Axis countries under his power instantly, could he do the same to those on his team?
Well, you see, I'm not really sure what Hitler did to do that whole thing with his Axis countries. I'll go reread the arc in the Spectre series (by Ostrander) that featured the Spear.

And how do the superheroes lose their powers? If he hits them with the Spear, do they lose them? Or is it if they just get too close? How long does the power loss last?
If they get too close. But this was all thanks to the magical stuff Hitler did. The Spear doesn't usually do this stuff.

[wiegeabo]

I've put Lost Flock against Claws because I don't have a starting lineup for the Tea Baggers yet. If you put one up Humbug, I'll make the swap.

[BAH HUMBBUG!]

I've put Lost Flock against Claws because I don't have a starting lineup for the Tea Baggers yet. If you put one up Humbug, I'll make the swap.

K, what does my SL have to compose of again?

1R
1M
and at least one from each Universe?

[wiegeabo]

2U
1M
2R

At least two from each universe, and you can downgrade any you want. (So you can have 2U, 3R or 1U, 2M, 2R or whatever.)

[TheCorpulent1]

You can have a whole team of Rs if you want, but the rankings are a maximum of 2 Us, 1 M, and 2 Rs. You need at least two from each universe.

[Johnny Blaze]

General Question: I was wondering if someone with a copy of the Homelands arc from Fables and a scanner would be kind enough to scan me a pick of Blue with the Witching Cloak and Vorpal Sword?
I'd do it myself, but I have no scanner. :o :(

[JewishHobbit]

I think I have those on my computer at the moment. What issue is it from?

[JewishHobbit]

Is this him?

http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v293/JewishHobbit/BoyBlue.jpg

[BAH HUMBBUG!]

Okay Here is my Starting Roster

Tea Baggers
The Ancient One (MU)
Black Adam (DU)
Iceman (MM)
Adolf Hitler SOD (DR) (Spear Of Destiny)
Amazing Man II (DR)

[Johnny Blaze]

Is this him?

http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v293/JewishHobbit/BoyBlue.jpg
That's him. Thanks a bunch, Hobbit. I appreciate the help. :) :up:

[primemover]

Okay Here is my Starting Roster

Tea Baggers
The Ancient One (MU)
Black Adam (DU)
Iceman (MM)
Adolf Hitler SOD (DR) (Spear Of Destiny)
Amazing Man II (DR)

Sweet to see The Amazing Man II get picked up!! :D

[JewishHobbit]

I absolutely hate this, but I'm going to have to drop out of the DTL. I've had a string of bad luck in my personal life and have things here on the other side of the screen that I need to be focusing on. I don't want to leave as I've missed the DTL and was having fun being back in it. I'll try to stick around to vote but no promises, and if things lighten up quickly then I'll be back.

[wiegeabo]

Damn, that sucks JH. But it's completely understandable. Don't worry about the League, and we'll see you back when you're ready.

[Harlekin]

I absolutely hate this, but I'm going to have to drop out of the DTL. I've had a string of bad luck in my personal life and have things here on the other side of the screen that I need to be focusing on. I don't want to leave as I've missed the DTL and was having fun being back in it. I'll try to stick around to vote but no promises, and if things lighten up quickly then I'll be back.
Like Wieg said, really sucks to hear, and we completely understand. :( I'm wishing you the best of luck, mate. Keep up the stiff upper lip.

[wiegeabo]

Just got back from X3. That movie, for the record, kicked, kicked, KICKED ASS! Probably the best of the three, IMO.

For anyone worried about it being too short, in the first half of the movie, it sort of felt that way. Like there should be more dialog and a slower pace. By the second half, all the buildup works and it feels like a two hour movie.

There were a couple of minor things that bugged me. First, the website I went to for movie times told me to go to the wrong theater. So, by the time I got to the right one, I missed the first half of the new Superman trailer! :mad:

Second, Piotr wasn't Russian. They didn't give him a Russian accent. Annoying, but I can live with that.

Third, The Juggernaut was a mutant. But it fit well with the story and probably made more sense in the confines of the movie universe. And worked really well with the Leech scene

Fouth...well, there is another minor thing, but I've forgotten it, which should tell you how good I thought the movie was.


Very few reacted to the Juggernaut's famous line. But everyone was completely busting up at Wolverine's "Try growing those back." :D

As for the scene after the credits (And be sure to stay AFTER the credits when you see it!), it was great, even though I correctly predicted it after the incident which sets it up occured. (If you've seen it, you know what I'm talking about ;)) Even though it was short, everyone who we told to stay after and see it was very happy they did.

It was great to see Storm get something more to do (even more than in X2), and be more like the character should be then she was in the other movies. Kelsey Grammer was dead perfect for Hank.

And for those who complained about the movie not being emotional enough...I'm not ashamed to say that the funeral scene had tears in my eyes. It was done perfectly.

I think I prefered Ratner's direction over Singer's, which I didn't think I'd say. Although I think Singer might have gotten a better performance out of a couple of characters, the majority of the key players were great.


Well, I'm done ranting. For me, this movie was very much worth seeing. :up:

[TheCorpulent1]

Wow, I had the opposite feelings on almost everything you mentioned. I didn't like X3 that much, thought it was the weakest of the trilogy by far, and felt the changes made to the main story betrayed the spirit of that story completely.

[wiegeabo]

You are dead to me. :mad:

:p

[POWdER-man]

I reserve the right of no comment.

Anyways, can anyone tell me about Tap? I can't find any bio on him/her, so any information would be appreciated. Thanks!

[JewishHobbit]

Don't know squat about Tap, sorry... but I saw X-Men 3 the other night :)

I'm mixed on it. I'll just talk openly... so I'll just spoiler it all. Heavy spoiler warning!!!!

I liked the overall story, but I feel the biggest mistake was taking out Cyclops so quickly and then puting Storm and Wolverine in the leadership roles. I feel that Cyclops got the shaft in both 1 and 2 and I was really hoping to see him shine in this movie, and then he dies 10 minutes into the film. I'm still having problems with that. I had no problem with Xavier's death though, as it was interesting and pushed the story along. And I loved Magneto's shown respect for him through it (especially the scene with Pyro).

I was disappointed with the lack of Madrox time, though the one scene he had was cool. I would have rather seen him go to war (it was an army after all) rather than Arclight and a few of the other nameless.

I don't know who the dude with the needles all over him was, but with all the known characters they put in they could have put someone else in his place, but nonetheless, he wasn't a bad character. I figure the bone dude that Wolverine faught was Spike from X-Men Evolution/X-Force (X-Statics). I thought he was done well.

I thought that the Rogue angle was a great one to go with... but the delivery was horrible. She was a jerk and left the movie after a few minutes it seemed, and didn't show up again until the last few minutes.

And the swearing was a little more excessive than necessary.

I hated, once again, the pairing of Jean and Logan. It should never been them two, it should have been Cyclops and Jean, and the lack of this really gets to me whether it be movie or comic.

Now, some good stuff.

I absolutely LOVED Beast! Kelsey Grammer was a perfect pick and he played the role excellently. I also loved Kitty Pryde.

Iceman and Pyro played good opposites to one another.

The opening scene was freaking great!!!

And they did a great job making me scared of Phoenix.

The final battle was also amazing!

Oops dinner's ready so I have to stop. But overall it isn't a bad film. I'd put it on par with the first film, but X2 was still far superior.

[TheCorpulent1]

I will admit that, although I thought Beast looked like crap initially, Kelsey Grammer's performance won me over to him. The rest of the movie had lots of problems, but Grammer's Beast was spot-on. The only thing they could've changed was to add some more humor to him, but the climate of the movie was very foreboding and Beast cracking jokes would've detracted from that, so I didn't mind.

[JewishHobbit]

Something I did forget to mention was that I did feel that it was too short. It felt short, and when it finished I felt like I didn't get the whole story. They should have taken some more time to flesh out some of the characters to fill out the movie some. I think that would have helped. My friends and I say that this movie has Jurassic Park III syndrome.

[POWdER-man]

No answer on Tap, Corp?...If I could at least get their powers I would appreciate it......

[BAH HUMBBUG!]

Is Darkseid allowed in the League?

[Guyverjay]

Why yes he is:)

[TheCorpulent1]

No answer on Tap, Corp?...If I could at least get their powers I would appreciate it......
Why would I know anything about Tap? :confused:
Something I did forget to mention was that I did feel that it was too short. It felt short, and when it finished I felt like I didn't get the whole story. They should have taken some more time to flesh out some of the characters to fill out the movie some. I think that would have helped. My friends and I say that this movie has Jurassic Park III syndrome.
Jurassic Park 3 sucked too, so I would agree. ;)

[wiegeabo]

I'm going to open voting in an hour or so.

[primemover]

Is Darkseid allowed in the League?

Yes, and is a sure way to get Nightwing's vote.

[wiegeabo]

But there's already two Darkseid's in the tourney.

[wiegeabo]

Voting is now open.

[wiegeabo]

Well, since lineups are due tomorrow, I thought I'd make this announcement now:

Our first theme week!!!

(with the exception of Surprise week of course)

This week's them is:

(drum roll)

All Regs Week!

That's right. You can only use regulars in your lineup. Now, many of us don't have 5 regulars to use. So, for this week only, you can pick up enough regs to fill out your lineup without having to drop any other characters. You still have the universe restriction, so at least two from each universe must be in your lineup.

So we don't have a lot of confusion, post any regs you pickup in the Transactions thread like normal.

Once this week's battles are over, you'll have to bring you roster back down to 10 characters like normal.

[Johnny Blaze]

How do we do this then if we don't have five Regs? Do we PM you the extra character(s) we're picking up, or do we post them?

[wiegeabo]

I've been thinking about this. Posting pickups would prevent a character from being used by multiple owners, but defeats blind lineups. PMing keeps lineups blind, but characters may be picked up by mroe than one owner.

I don't have a problem with regs being picked up and used by multiple owners. I think it'd be cool to potentially see characters having to fight themselves. So I'm leaning towards pm. And since everyone has at least 2 regs already, I'll say everyone can have up to three temporary regs, that way your opponent won't know which combo of regs that you do own you will use (assuming you have more than 2 regs). And you can always pick up regs normally to prevent duplication and give yourself more options.

[Johnny Blaze]

Cool.

Can anyone give me some info on the location; I don't read Cable/DP?

[JewishHobbit]

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W, if you don't want this in your thread I'm more than willing to remove it.

JH's Auctions (http://search.ebay.com/_W0QQsassZshadagadQQhtZ-1)

[POWdER-man]

Why would I know anything about Tap? :confused:

I was asking at the time, because you were the only one who was online.

AS can you tell me wwhat powers Tap has? And what is the difference with this version of Captain Marvel?

[AnnoyingSilence]

http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v318/jusreal/Captain%20Marvel/Genis%20x2/scan0002.gifhttp://img.photobucket.com/albums/v318/jusreal/Captain%20Marvel/Genis%20x2/scan0003.gif
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http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v318/jusreal/Captain%20Marvel/Genis%20x2/scan0006.gif
http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v318/jusreal/Captain%20Marvel/Genis%20x2/scan0007.gifhttp://img.photobucket.com/albums/v318/jusreal/Captain%20Marvel/Genis%20x2/scan0008.gif

[AnnoyingSilence]

http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v318/jusreal/Captain%20Marvel/Genis%20x2/scan0009.gif
http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v318/jusreal/Captain%20Marvel/Genis%20x2/scan0010.gifhttp://img.photobucket.com/albums/v318/jusreal/Captain%20Marvel/Genis%20x2/scan0011.gif
http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v318/jusreal/Captain%20Marvel/Genis%20x2/scan0012.gifhttp://img.photobucket.com/albums/v318/jusreal/Captain%20Marvel/Genis%20x2/scan0013.gif

[POWdER-man]

OK that's good, thanks.

[Nightwing.]

Yes, and is a sure way to get Nightwing's vote.

whats that suppose to mean?

[Johnny Blaze]

whats that suppose to mean?
I think he's calling you a Darkseid fanboy. :p

[Nightwing.]

I went to watch x-3 on friday and loved it.....

Juggernaut was played awesomely by Vinnie Jones and he was a cool character....i was abit annoyed that they had him as a mutant and also that he didnt have an on screen hatred for prof X but hey they only had a short time......

Wolverine taking on the Morlocks in the forest was awesome as was Kid Omega (Spiky guy)

I thought the bridge scene was mind blowing and it showed Magneto's full potential.

Collossus had some good scenes and Beast was cast to a T. Kelsey was awesome and his on screen relationship with Logan was excellent.

I also thought Kitty was good and is gonna suffer from Olsen Twin Syndrome no doubt.

Iceman icing up was also cool but the best scene in the whole thing i think was Magneto sat at the chess board.....for some reason i thought that was the best bit of directing ever.they didnt have his powers going over board just a little wobble and then BAM!!!! credits....brilliant.

[Nightwing.]

im more of a juggernaut fan boy than darkseid but if someone wants to trade a darkseid im all ears :D

[Harlekin]

Well, since lineups are due tomorrow, I thought I'd make this announcement now:

Our first theme week!!!

(with the exception of Surprise week of course)

This week's them is:

(drum roll)

All Regs Week!

That's right. You can only use regulars in your lineup. Now, many of us don't have 5 regulars to use. So, for this week only, you can pick up enough regs to fill out your lineup without having to drop any other characters. You still have the universe restriction, so at least two from each universe must be in your lineup.

So we don't have a lot of confusion, post any regs you pickup in the Transactions thread like normal.

Once this week's battles are over, you'll have to bring you roster back down to 10 characters like normal.
Yay! :D. I already got my line-up ready. I'll send it to you soon.

[primemover]

whats that suppose to mean?

You know what that means, season 2 ring a bell?

[XFanTim]

I haven't seen X3 yet (I was out of town visiting family all weekend) but I'll be seeing it sometime this week.

However, regarding Juggernaut being a mutant, I really don't think there's any other way they could have played it. In the comic book Marvel Universe, you have mutants like the X-Men co-existing with magical characters like Dr. Strange, with cosmic characters like Silver Surfer, etc., etc. But in the X-Men movies, you basically have a world that's "realistic" except for the existence of mutants. If after having no mention of magic whatsoever in the first two movies they suddenly said "Oh, by the way, magic also exists in the X-Men's world," the non-comic book reading audience would be confused and annoyed. And I don't blame them -- from their perspective it would be as weird as if the next Harry Potter book revealed that Harry has mutant powers.

I think it's a lot more reasonable to ask comic fans to accept that some changes are necessary to make the films make sense to the general public, than it is to ask the general public to embrace comic book conventions like "magic exists" thrown at them unexpectedly two films into the series. Some people are probably annoyed because they think it's a mistake (i.e., the writers thought that Juggernaut actually was a mutant in the comics), but I suspect they knew what they were doing.

[wiegeabo]

Just a reminder to get those Theme Week lineups in. I've only gotten two so far (three counting myself).

Remember, when picking temporary regs to use, you can't use regs that other teams own (although the regs from discarded teams are fine). You can pick up to 3 regs you don't already own, the other two must come from your roster. And you still have to have two from each universe.

[TheCorpulent1]

I didn't really mind that bit, I minded that Juggernaut was squeezed into an already dense movie with no space for his history and rivalry with Xavier. That was the only thing that ever really made Juggernaut fit into the X-Men's corner of the universe, really. Well, that and his connection to Black Tom. If he'd had Black Tom as a buddy or at least thrown Chuck a dirty look, I might've liked the character more. As it stands, however, he was just Vinnie Jones in a horrible bodysuit with an even worse S&M-inspired costume who ran into things like a jackass and displayed little of the huge-scale power that makes him so awesome in the comics. He was basically stripped down to the point that everything I liked about him was gone in the movie.

[XFanTim]

READ THIS!!!!!

Just a reminder to get those Theme Week lineups in. I've only gotten two so far (three counting myself).

Remember, when picking temporary regs to use, you can't use regs that other teams own (although the regs from discarded teams are fine). You can pick up to 3 regs you don't already own, the other two must come from your roster. And you still have to have two from each universe.
Now no one can say they forgot or missed the announcement. :D

[XFanTim]

I didn't really mind that bit, I minded that Juggernaut was squeezed into an already dense movie with no space for his history and rivalry with Xavier.
From the spoilers I've read, it sounds like the whole Dark Phoenix saga was pretty much squeezed in too.:( But I'll withhold judgement until I actually see the movie.

[Nightwing.]

so how do we pick up these other regs?i mean what if there is a clash of characters?do we do a temporary trade in transactions thread?

[Harlekin]

You just send in your line-up. You do not post which regs you'll be picking up, and that way multiple people can have the same regs, if that occurs. This way, there's no need for temporary trading, and we can keep blind line-ups.

[punishermax]

Could someone give me some info on Week 4's battlefield, because I've never read Cable/Deadpool.

[wiegeabo]

Got a few more lineups in. Good to see that. Let's keep it up.

I'll be closing the polls in a few hours.


As for Providence, it's really a big artifical island floating in the ocean that Cable constructed. It's got advanced tech in the labs, but is primarily a living area for all the people who live there. Just think of it as a small city. There are living quarters, restaurants, probably parks, and a lot of other places. I'll try to dig up some pics tonight (if I remember).

[TheCorpulent1]

Also, Cable keeps it aloft with nothing but his telekinesis.

[wiegeabo]

Cable landed it in the ocean before he had himself lobotomized.

[AnnoyingSilence]

Got a few more lineups in. Good to see that. Let's keep it up.

I'll be closing the polls in a few hours.Just sent mine(only have 5 regs anyway :D)
As for Providence, it's really a big artifical island floating in the ocean that Cable constructed. It's got advanced tech in the labs, but is primarily a living area for all the people who live there. Just think of it as a small city. There are living quarters, restaurants, probably parks, and a lot of other places. I'll try to dig up some pics tonight (if I remember).To sum it up... High Tech Utopia/Metropolis.

[Johnny Blaze]

Question Wieg: What's going to happen with X's team since it's been three weeks?

[TheCorpulent1]

Cable landed it in the ocean before he had himself lobotomized.
Oh, that's not as cool. I thought you would've had it during its floating period. :(

[XFanTim]

Question Wieg: What's going to happen with X's team since it's been three weeks?

I assume I should mark the team as unowned (meaning anyone can take his characters if they want), but that it will continue to function like any other ownerless teams until such time as X reclaims it (or someone else takes it over).

But I'll wait to mark it as ownerless until I get confirmation from Wieg.

[Johnny Blaze]

I assume I should mark the team as unowned (meaning anyone can take his characters if they want), but that it will continue to function like any other ownerless teams until such time as X reclaims it (or someone else takes it over).

But I'll wait to mark it as ownerless until I get confirmation from Wieg.
Cool.




Also...voting ends tonight, doesn't it? :confused:

[wiegeabo]

I was about to make that announcement. X's team is now officially ownerless. His characters are up for grabs.


Now, some exterior Providence pics:

This is when Cable created it
http://i8.photobucket.com/albums/a11/wiegeabo/Providence0.jpg

Here's what it looks like now after being landed
http://i8.photobucket.com/albums/a11/wiegeabo/Providence1.jpg

Here's another outside shot from a different angle (note how Cannonball is smashing Deadpool against the wall)
http://i8.photobucket.com/albums/a11/wiegeabo/Providence2.jpg

[AnnoyingSilence]

scan the Cable vs. Captain America fight(please!!!)

that comics is one of my most favs :up:

[XFanTim]

X's team is now officially up for grabs

He has lots of good characters, so I encourage you all to consider claiming them. But please try to leave him with a legal starting lineup. Currently, his starting lineup is:

Dr. Doom (Power Cosmic) (MU)
Paragon (DU)
Diablo (MM)
Fascination (MR)
Grimbor (Pre-Zero Hour) (DR)

[AnnoyingSilence]

any scans on Doom?

or maybe a good discription?

[punishermax]

X's team is now officially up for grabs

He has lots of good characters, so I encourage you all to consider claiming them. But please try to leave him with a legal starting lineup. Currently, his starting lineup is:

Dr. Doom (Power Cosmic) (MU)
Paragon (DU)
Diablo (MM)
Fascination (MR)
Grimbor (Pre-Zero Hour) (DR)

I've been looking for info on Superman (102nd Century), anyone got anything.

[XFanTim]

Incidentally, here are some of the characters that I would be tempted to pick up if I had a DTL team:

Character -- why I want him
Thanos (MU) -- He's freaking Thanos. Most dangerous villain in the Marvel Universe.
Nebulon (MU) -- He's got a load of powers, enough to take on the Defenders by himself.
Dr. Doom (Power Cosmic) (MU) -- Doom's brains + Surfer's power. 'nuff said.
Paragon (DU) -- Can beat almost anyone one-on-one (minus the obvious exceptions)
New Sun (MM) -- His power is to blow people up. Literally. (Plus a bunch of other stuff)
The Answer (MM) -- He can come up with whatever power the situation requires.
Karate Kid (Pre-Zero Hour) (DR) -- Best martial artist ever. This guy can beat Superman-level beings with pure skill.
Spider-Man 2099 (MR) -- Spidey's powers + future technology + eXiles resources
Patriarch (MR) -- A teleporter with no qualms about teleporting your organs out of your body. Plus a teleporter in tandem with Paragon is a devestating combination.

[XFanTim]

I've been looking for info on Superman (102nd Century), anyone got anything.
X explained what his powers were, but I can't find it. I assume he's basically a more powerful version of Superman.

[AnnoyingSilence]

multiple eye beams...


thats all i've got.(i got the million mini, so i'll try to find some good scans)

[Johnny Blaze]

Also...voting ends tonight, doesn't it? :confused:
Anyone?

[punishermax]

Anyone?
Indeed it does.

[XFanTim]

any scans on Doom?

or maybe a good discription?
Doom w/ power cosmic first appeared in a Fantastic Four arc, but the story was retold in "Silver Surfer: Loftier than Mortals"

Here are links to a summary of the retelling (including descriptions of how Doom used the power cosmic):

Summary part 1 (http://marvelite.prohosting.com/surfer/reviews/ltm1.html)
Summary part 2 (http://marvelite.prohosting.com/surfer/reviews/ltm2.html)

Doom as portrayed there might be a little tuber for DTL standards -- just as Silver Surfer would be if we went by his higher end portrayals. But basically it's Doom with Surfer's powers, so if you keep him toned down a little like we do for Surfer, it should be fine.

(Some people objected that the only reason Surfer is allowed in the DTL is because he holds back, whereas Doom obviously wouldn't. But it was agreed that this isn't actually true, as it's easy to write reasons for Surfer to go all out. The general concensus was that Surfer is allowed because we will expect him to be a bit toned down rather than just going by his highest end showings -- the same stipulation required for Thanos, Dr. Strange, Despero, and anyone else who has some showings that are too uber for the DTL. And thus Doom can be kept in check in the same way.)

In summary -- it's Doom's brains and personality with the Silver Surfer's powers. Simple as that.

[Johnny Blaze]

Indeed it does.
Danka. :up:

[XFanTim]

Character -- why I want him
Thanos (MU) -- He's freaking Thanos. Most dangerous villain in the Marvel Universe.

Thanos has been snatched up already (no surprise there, nor is the owner who claimed him). But someone should consider claiming the now-available Adam Warlock as well.

This page (http://www.angelfire.com/comics/maguswarlock/) should tell you everything you need to know about Warlock's powers and capabilities.

[POWdER-man]

DAMN IT I was waiting for Thanos to open up. I will take Warlock though.

Drop Morg (MU)
Pick up Adam Warlock (MU)

[AnnoyingSilence]

In summary -- it's Doom's brains and personality with the Silver Surfer's powers. Simple as that.And I Thank you.

[POWdER-man]

BTW I am just finishing up my battle I wanted to check something before I continued...

[Johnny Blaze]

DAMN IT I was waiting for Thanos to open up. I will take Warlock though.

Drop Morg (MU)
Pick up Adam Warlock (MU)
Wrong thread.
All transactions must be made in the Transaction thread.

[TheCorpulent1]

I'm almost tempted to take Doom with the Power Cosmic, but I've already got Thor and I don't want to drop anyone else.

[AnnoyingSilence]

just picked'm up

[POWdER-man]

Wrong thread.
All transactions must be made in the Transaction thread.

Yeah I realized this afterwards and I was putting up my rushed battle so I didn't come back to this until much later.

[AnnoyingSilence]

thats why he went untouched... POWdER-man "Dibbed"'m

[BAH HUMBBUG!]

Wait, so what the hell is going on with the Regular characters?

[AnnoyingSilence]

We're having a Themed Week

Regular Only Week:

Duh. You can only use reg.

The rule is that you can only temperarily pickup regs not already chosen by another team.(in other words, You'll get your uber or medium whoever back the week after.

[BAH HUMBBUG!]

Umm, why do we even have to drop anyone if it just a reg week then? Why don't we just make them temporaries?

[AnnoyingSilence]

Gotta be offical about it. :rolleyes:

[wiegeabo]

Last seconds to get votes in. Hurry!


Wait, so what the hell is going on with the Regular characters?

Certain random weeks our battles have themes. This week the theme is all regulars. This means your lineup must consist of all regular characters (no ubers or meds).

Now, no matter how many regs you have, you can temporarily grab up to 3 other regulars to fill out your lineup and keep the other team guessing (since they won't be sure what combination of temporary and owned regs you'll be using).

Now, you don't have to post which temp regs your picking up since you'll only have them of this match. Just pm your lineup with the regs you want. Some regs may get picked up by multiple owners, but that's fine. Just no grabbing regs from owned teams (although getting them from discarded teams is fine).

[BAH HUMBBUG!]

Where do we vote?

[wiegeabo]

Umm, why do we even have to drop anyone if it just a reg week then? Why don't we just make them temporaries?

You don't have to drop anyone unless you want to put them on your team like normal (which means posting the transactions in the Transactions thread). For the temp regs, just put them in your lineup and pm them to keep them blind.

[wiegeabo]

Where do we vote?

In the battle threads.

[POWdER-man]

Not to be a stickler but should we extend voting until tomorrow morning? I only have one official vote in my matchup, so it will be decided by one person. Although I am sure you'll vote Wieg, it would still be a low vote total...

[LadyVader]

I will vote also by the end of the day. Right now I am finishing my own write-up. :)

[AnnoyingSilence]

sss

[wiegeabo]

I'm willing to wait until the morning. With so many ownerless teams, we need all the participation we can get. And since it was also a holiday weekend, I'll let the few hours slip.

[Harlekin]

I'll get my votes in soon as well.

[Johnny Blaze]

sss
I've always wondered...just what is the deal with the "sss"? Is it an acronym for something? :confused:

[TheCorpulent1]

It's what AS puts whenever he edits a post to be blank. You can't leave a totally blank post, so he leaves the "sss."

[POWdER-man]

I think it means he is a slitherin snake....

[wiegeabo]

Oh, I thought the air was being let out of his tires.

[Johnny Blaze]

It's what AS puts whenever he edits a post to be blank. You can't leave a totally blank post, so he leaves the "sss."
Well, I guess that makes sense.

[Johnny Blaze]

Oh, I thought the air was being let out of his tires.
Or maybe it's hot air escaping from him? He is full of it, after all. :D :p

[TheCorpulent1]

Every time I read one of those posts, I get a mental image of this dude waving his hands to shoo me away:

http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v327/TheLeaguer/Stuff/AS.jpg

[wiegeabo]

Here are the lineups for you to look over if you want to use a swap token. For those I didn't get a lineup from or were unowned, I just used all the regs that team had, then gave them discarded regs right down the list.


Justice Knights vs. Gods and Men
Union Jack (MR)
Cap A (MR)
Batman (DR)
Nightwing (DR)
Cyclops (MR)

Rick Jones (Avengers Forever) (MR)
Sandman (Hector Hall) (DR)
Yellowjacket (Avengers Forever) (MR)
Magik (Exiles) (MR) (F)
Deadman (DR)


The New Defenders vs. The All New, All Different Exiles
Grimbor (Pre-Zero Hour) (DR)
Animal Man (DR)
Fascination (MR)
Patriarch (MR)
Devil Slayer (MR)

Animal Man (Titans of Tomorrow) (DR)
Deathstroke (DR)
Klaw (MR)
Daisy Johnson (MR)
Koryak (DR)


Justice Society vs. Chaos & Order
Cyclops(MR)
Black Panther(MR)
Hawkman(DR)
Black Canary II(DR) (F)
Wolverine (MR)

Proctor (MR)
Fate (Jared Stevens) (DR)
Scarlet Spider (MR)
Deadline (DR)
Jaine Cutter (MR)


The Underdogs vs. The Incorrigible Punkasses
Green Arrow (DR)
Blue Beetle (DR)
Booster Gold (DR)
Captain America (Avengers Forever) (MR)
Hawkeye (MR)

Ambrose Chase (DR)
Girl 13 (DR)
Silent Majority (DR)
Black Knight (Dane Whitman) (DR)
Libra (MR)


Guyver's Goons vs. Funky Fresh
Chunk (DR)
Zeitgeist (MR)
Shadowoman (MR)
The Ray (DR)
Batman (Azrael) (KnightsEnd) (DR)

Spider-Man 2099 (eXiles)
Little Boy Blue (Homelands)
Batman (1 Million)
The Ghost
Brainiac 5


The Atomic Punks vs. Simple Kind Of Lovelies
Karate Kid (Pre-Zero Hour) (DR)
Angle Man (DR)
Spider-Man 2099 (MR)
Kiden (MR)
Red Hood (Jason Todd) (DR)

Nemesis (DR)
Engineer (DR)
Deadpool (MR)
Will O' the Wisp (MR)
Vampire Batman (DR)

Claws of Veeshan vs. The Collective POWdER of the Superegos
Aztek (DR)
Zauriel (DR)
Carnage (MR)
Shadowcat (MR)
Killer Frost (DR)

Ghost Rider (MR)
The Ray (DR)
Prometheus (DR)
Taskmaster (MR)
Morph (MR)


Tea Baggers vs. Devastating Silence
Death Wolverine (MR)
Amazing Man II (DR)
Fantomex (MR)
Adolf Hitler (DR)
Namorita (MR)

Northstar (MR)
Northstar (AoH) (MR)
Blink (MR)
Plastic Man (DR)
Tap (DR)

[TheCorpulent1]

Um... would Rick Jones (Avengers Forever) be Rick Jones with the Destiny Force? He's absolutely way beyond regular and probably too uber if so.

[POWdER-man]

That's my wrong lineup. I wasn't sure if we were supposed to put up 10 people altogether so it would be more harder to guess which charaters you had.

[wiegeabo]

That's my wrong lineup. I wasn't sure if we were supposed to put up 10 people altogether so it would be more harder to guess which charaters you had.


Fixed.

[wiegeabo]

I didn't know anything about Rick Jones.

[TheCorpulent1]

He's a normal human and he was crippled in Avengers Forever, but he also displayed the ability to use the Destiny Force in AF, which is basically mankind's untapped potential for power. The Destiny Force was vaguely defined, but it basically seemed like hardcore telekinesis and quasi-mystical abilities rolled into one. The descendants of humanity in a far-flung future used the Destiny Force to subjugate the entire universe.

[wiegeabo]

He's a normal human and he was crippled in Avengers Forever, but he also displayed the ability to use the Destiny Force in AF, which is basically mankind's untapped potential for power. The Destiny Force was vaguely defined, but it basically seemed like hardcore telekinesis and quasi-mystical abilities rolled into one. The descendants of humanity in a far-flung future used the Destiny Force to subjugate the entire universe.

Riiiiiight...

Subjugate the entire universe. Seems just a tad tuber...

[TheCorpulent1]

I can scan specific uses of it if you want.

[LadyVader]

Here are the lineups for you to look over if you want to use a swap token. For those I didn't get a lineup from or were unowned, I just used all the regs that team had, then gave them discarded regs right down the list.



The irony of course is that I could've sent you my line-up in time but I just couldn't decide on the extra regular.
So tell me, did I get Vampire Batman because I happened to live in Dracula's home country? :eek:

[TheCorpulent1]

You should've totally gone for vampire Cap instead. :p

[wiegeabo]

The irony of course is that I could've sent you my line-up in time but I just couldn't decide on the extra regular.
So tell me, did I get Vampire Batman because I happened to live in Dracula's home country? :eek:


No, he was just next on the list. :)



Yeah, it's because you're Romanian :p

[TheCorpulent1]

Oh yeah, I'm an idiot. I forgot the primary freaking expression of the Destiny Force in Rick Jones: he gained the ability to call up heroes from his subconscious in hordes to protect him. And, if you know anything about Rick Jones, you know that he's basically the premiere superhero buff on Marvel's Earth, so he knows about pretty much every hero from the past and present, and even a few from his visits to the future within Captain Marvel. He's like Kid Eternity, basically, and Kid Eternity is already tuber.

[LadyVader]

I knew it!
Intr-un final va dati pe fata naframa, xenofobilor! http://flash-forum.flashdevils.com/images/smilies/swear.gif

@Corp.
Hah, you know that old Captain America movie they did? One of our TV stations is going to air it this friday. I can't wait. :)

[TheCorpulent1]

Which one? There was one with the normal shield and a very slimy-looking Red Skull, and then there was a weird TV movie with a clear, plastic-looking shield that I never understood. :)

[LadyVader]

I think it's the one from 1991. It looked pretty recent, and the guy playing Captain America had the emotional depth of a piece of cardboard, pretty typical for the 90's action hero. :)

[Harlekin]

Justice Knights vs. Gods and Men
Union Jack (MR)
Cap A (MR)
Batman (DR)
Nightwing (DR)
Cyclops (MR)

Rick Jones (Avengers Forever) (MR)
Silver Scarab (Hector Hall) (DR)
Yellowjacket (Avengers Forever) (MR)
Magik (Exiles) (MR) (F)
Deadman (DR)

Oh, hell! I meant Sandman (Hector Hall). If I need to use a swap token for this I'll use that. I was certain I sent it in with Hector as Sandman. :(

As for Rick Jones (Avengers Forever), it's very specific as the point where the Destiny Force only worked on him. So he could walk and had enhanced strength and speed, basically being like Cap. He would not be able to call up anybody or the empowering others thing. I even already wrote a bit for my prep-time where he basically explains that his prime connection with DF is cut off and all he has left are the enhanced physical abilities. If necessary, just make it Rick Jones then. I like a bit of an underdog team. :p

[Nightwing.]

weig there are two cyclops's.one on justice knights (us) and one on justice society.which is which incarnation?

[Nightwing.]

Harl when you've finalised your team with weig any chance you could send links or info on them so i can start with my write up please son?

[Harlekin]

Both are the same. It's been allowed for this one time theme week.

[Nightwing.]

oh ok cheers

[Harlekin]

Harl when you've finalised your team with weig any chance you could send links or info on them so i can start with my write up please son?
I haven't finalised my team with Wieg I'm afraid. I can give you one garantuee. It's the Sandman Hector Hall. The lynchpin however is Rick Jones. If things go through, he's gonna have some enhanced strength and speed. Otherwise, he won't.

Anyway, links:
Rick Jones!? (Avenger Forever (httphttp://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Rick_Jones_%28comics%29))
Henry Pym… Yellowjacket!? (Stinging like a Bee (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Henry_Pym))
Hector Hall... Sandman!? (Dreamer (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Hector Hall))
Illyana Rasputin... Magik! (Mutant Exile (http://exiles.confusticated.com/magik.html))
Boston Brand... Deadman! (Dead Again (http://spider-bob.com/heroes/dc/Deadman.htm))

Hector Hall, as the Sandman also carries a small case of pellets that will induce sleep.

[Nightwing.]

cheers

[Harlekin]

I'll PM you when Wieg clears things up regarding Hec and Rick (hopefully without the use of tokens ;)). It might just be better to have the normal Rick Jones in it, but I'll let Wieg decide.

[Harlekin]

Also, trouble in paradise:
Fate's (Jared Stevens) a DM.
Aztek, also a DM.

[Nightwing.]

just a quick question for those who watched xmen3.....

what the hell happened after the credits?i didnt stay long enough to find out.......

feel free to add spoiler tags i just wanna know what happened.

[wiegeabo]

If all Rick has is some bumped up normal abilities like Cap America, he's ok as a reg.

And Jared Stevens is a Med? Can't think of why.

[wiegeabo]

just a quick question for those who watched xmen3.....

what the hell happened after the credits?i didnt stay long enough to find out.......

feel free to add spoiler tags i just wanna know what happened.


It cuts to the hospital the brain dead man was in. The man wakes up and says Moira's name in Xavier's voice. She looks at him and say "...Charles?"

[Nightwing.]

wicked........can't believe i missed that

[wiegeabo]

Fixed your lineup Harl.

[BAH HUMBBUG!]

So what is the final decision on the Popian?

[wiegeabo]

So what is the final decision on the Popian?

Who? :confused:

[TheCorpulent1]

I think he meant "Poppupian" (that's the Impossible Man's race ;)).

[BAH HUMBBUG!]

Impossible Man, he's a poppuian

[BAH HUMBBUG!]

I think he meant "Poppupian" (that's the Impossible Man's race ;)).

Yeah there ya go :up:

[Harlekin]

If all Rick has is some bumped up normal abilities like Cap America, he's ok as a reg.

And Jared Stevens is a Med? Can't think of why.
He was a DM when I picked him up in Season II. He might need a regrading though. He's not all that powerful I believe.

Fixed your lineup Harl.
Thanks Wieg. :D

[wiegeabo]

Well, I checked Impossible Man's first appearence and he did no reality warping. He had some impressive changes. When Thing tried to hit him, I-Man grew spikes that actuall hurt Ben. He turned into a water ballon that Johnny flew through, putting out his flame. And when he turned back into his normal form, the water was still on the floor, which makes me think he could turn into somekind of weapon. He was also either too heavy, or made himeself too heavy, for Thing to lift.

With these kinds of powers, he's either and Med or and uber. I'm leaning towards really good middleweight, unless someone has a reason he should be an uber.


As for Jared Stevens, I'm not sure why he'd be a medium. I don't think his powers would qualify, especially when compared to the likes of Vision, Ambrose, and Hadrian. So I'm ranking him as a regular (and not just because I want to use him this week).

(Which I do.)

[Harlekin]

Cool with me, just giving you the heads up.

[wiegeabo]

Appreciate it. It needed to be made clear.





Don't ever do it again! :mad: :p

[BAH HUMBBUG!]

Sweet, so I can pick up Impossible Man then?

[AnnoyingSilence]

I can scan specific uses of it if you want.just leave out the stuff where he actually takes the universe over:up:

[POWdER-man]

Aztek, also a DM.

Whatever happened to this? I am facing them I am curious to know if there has to be a change.

[XFanTim]

Jared Stevens as a regular seems reasonable to me. I don't think his magical abilities are on the level of Zatarra or Tempest, who are mediums.

I'm not sure about Aztek.

[wiegeabo]

Whatever happened to this? I am facing them I am curious to know if there has to be a change.

Looking at the powers in his Wiki article, I'm thinking he's really just a great reg, so we'll leave him at that.

[wiegeabo]

Jared Stevens as a regular seems reasonable to me. I don't think his magical abilities are on the level of Zatarra or Tempest, who are mediums.

I'm not sure about Aztek.

Jared doesn't really have any magical abilities except dimensional shifting and recalling his weapons. And the 'eye of Fate'. And I guess you could count his freaky arm.

[XFanTim]

Looking at the powers in his Wiki article, I'm thinking he's really just a great reg, so we'll leave him at that.
Wiki lists:
Flight
Enhanced strength
Infrared and X-Ray vision
Invisibility
Bodyheat camouflage
Entrapment nets
Plasma beams
Variable density

The only one that concerned me was the variable density -- that's Vision's main power, and he's a good medium. But I assume Aztek can't alter his density to that degree, in which case having him be a top-notch reg sounds reasonable.

Although he sounds like a good enough reg that someone should think about picking him up for their regular roster.

[wiegeabo]

His density had me thinking fair Med, but then I figured it means he can be super durable (which many regs are) or intangible (many regs can phase).

[BAH HUMBBUG!]

So Impossible Man is a med or an uber?

[wiegeabo]

Yeah. I'll say he's a med.

[BAH HUMBBUG!]

Sweet :up:

[Tropico]

Well, I checked Impossible Man's first appearence and he did no reality warping. He had some impressive changes. When Thing tried to hit him, I-Man grew spikes that actuall hurt Ben. He turned into a water ballon that Johnny flew through, putting out his flame. And when he turned back into his normal form, the water was still on the floor, which makes me think he could turn into somekind of weapon. He was also either too heavy, or made himeself too heavy, for Thing to lift.

With these kinds of powers, he's either and Med or and uber. I'm leaning towards really good middleweight, unless someone has a reason he should be an uber.
(Which I do.)

The New Mutants Annual where Warlock and him fight was awesome. I think he did mimic weapons or at least characters that had weapons did fire. It was really funny because they would turn into each nemesis. Warlock would turn into Captain America and then we would see Impy turn into Baron Strucker and shooting at him. In the end it was Impy as a giant Godzilla monster and Warlock as some giant robot. Warlock beat Impy when the New Mutants suggested he do someting Impy can't do: change colors. Impy always turns into green and purple versions of whatever he takes the shape of, or at least it was like that at that time.:D:up:

[wiegeabo]

Battles will be up late tonight because after work I'm going to a Whose Line concert. :D

[BAH HUMBBUG!]

Just so I know, which week are we on?

[wiegeabo]

This is week 4 (all regs). Any trades you do now won't effective this week's battles, but will be usable for next week.

Now that I'm done teaching for the semester, and my schedule's starting to calm down, I'm going to be posting a refined schedule for how each week plays out.

[BAH HUMBBUG!]

Sweet thanks Wieg

[TheCorpulent1]

As for Jared Stevens, I'm not sure why he'd be a medium. I don't think his powers would qualify, especially when compared to the likes of Vision, Ambrose, and Hadrian.
How come my characters are the measuring stick?

[primemover]

How come my characters are the measuring stick?

Lowest common denominator.

[TheCorpulent1]

Didn't you quit? Get out of here, quitter. :mad:

[BAH HUMBBUG!]

Lol

[BAH HUMBBUG!]

So we need 5 regs right?

[wiegeabo]

Battles are up.

[wiegeabo]

Ok, so here's the weekly schedule. Hopefully I don't miss anything. Note that all times are in the Pacific Standard timezone (GMT-8). I'll try to be on time with stuff but may be off give or take an hour. You know how it is.


Monday 9am-Voting for prior week's battle opens.
Monday Midnight-Blind lineup submissions due.

Tuesday 9am-Lineups posted to give everyone chance to use swap token.
Tuesday 9pm-Voting for prior week's battle closes.

Wednesday Midnight-Swap tokens due, otherwise lineups remain unchanged.

Thursday 7pm-Battles posted

Sunday 9pm-Battles due

Monday 9am-Voting opens

Tuesday 9pm-Voting ends

[wiegeabo]

The only thing I'd want to change about the scedule is to have lineups due Midnight on Tuesday (rather than Monday), posting them Wednesday morning with them due Wednesday at midnight. But I'm not sure how that would effect those of you a dozen timezones ahead of me.


And for our rookies, even though the battles are technically due Sunday night, it's not a problem if you don't finish until Monday or Tuesday. You just take the big chance of losing votes once voting starts Monday morning (so it's better to be done early). And once voting ends, so do the matches, so adding to the battle becomes pointless.

[primemover]

Didn't you quit? Get out of here, quitter. :mad:
I know it's hard, you miss me, and because of that you lash out, I understand.

[BAH HUMBBUG!]

LOl :up: :D

[AnnoyingSilence]

can someone give some info on Amazing Man?

[primemover]

can someone give some info on Amazing Man?

Can turn into whatever he touches and then gains the properties of that object. He touches Steel, he becomes super strong and super durable, turns to rubber and stuff bounces off him. He has a utility belt that carries with him samples of various materials he uses in battle, including a metal that is impervious to magicks. He can also absorb energies and then redirect it, even mental energies as he once absorbed Maxima's telepathic energies and was able to utilize it as energy.

[AnnoyingSilence]

And this boy is a Regular?!

Fo ****** REAL?!

Thats a flamin Uber!

[Union Jack]

i agree with AS..that is uber..at least a medium..

[TheCorpulent1]

Actually, that's a good point. How come he wasn't an uber, or at least a middleweight, again?

[wiegeabo]

Actually, that's a good point. How come he wasn't an uber, or at least a middleweight, again?

I don't remember him ever being used to redirect energy or mental attacks in the League before. If all he could do was take on characteristics of things he touched, I'd say top level reg. But apparently he can redirect virtually all kinds of energy (except maybe magic if he isn't touching the right substance)...I'm going to bump him up to middleweight. It'll take effect after this week's match.

[TheCorpulent1]

But the Absorbing Man can take on the characteristics of the things he's touched and he's an uber. :confused:

[wiegeabo]

But can't Absorbing Man keep those characteristics even after he's let something go? From what I understand of Amazing Man, he has to be holding onto the object to use it's characteristics, and if he lets go, he goes back to normal.

If Amazing Man actually is like Absorbing Man, then he would be Uber. Actually, I think Absorbing Man is tuber, but I'm assuming he can take the characteristics of anything, while Amazing Man can only do it with metals.

[TheCorpulent1]

I thought Absorbing Man couldn't control what he turns into. Basically, if he touches it, he becomes it. That's how he was initially, at any rate; he might've learned to control it better. If that's the case, then put that together with his stupidity and he's definitely not tuber. He's almost laughably easy to defeat.

Also, I'd ask prime or wait for him to come by and clear up Amazing Man's powers. I think there must have been something more to the character's powers if he managed to remain a reg for so long.

[Guyverjay]

Nah Creel can control what he wants to become, writers just choose to ignore it half the time because they can't think of a decent way of defeating him:o

[TheCorpulent1]

Ok, then he'd probably just be uber. I don't think he'd be tuber. Maybe if he were a genius on top of having his power, but he's not.

[wiegeabo]

It's the Earth X version of Absorbing Man I was thinking as being tuber. That's why I was thinking he's over the bar.

[TheCorpulent1]

616 Absorbing Man hasn't really done anything as impressive as what the Earth X version did, though.

[wiegeabo]

That's where I was getting confused. I was thinking of the Earth X's tuber version rather than 616's uber version.

[XFanTim]

Regular 616 Absorbing Man is certainly not too uber. I'm not even sure Earth-X Absorbing Man would be. I mean, I know he was powerful, but still -- didn't the Vision take him out with a computer virus? (Because he had some sort of computer mind or something -- I don't remember exactly.)

EDIT: Also, Creel can control whether or not he copies something -- it's not automatic. Although I have seen some instances where he was trying to copy one thing and accidentally copied something else due to a sudden switch. E.g., he was trying to copy Cap's shield, but Cap pulled it back quickly and Creel got his arm instead, turning him back to flesh. But it only worked because he was already consciously trying to copy something. Still, I'm not sure it's always portrayed that way.

[XFanTim]

As for Amazing Man, there's no way he's uber. He's a good reg or a so-so medium. Obviously the comparison's to Absorbing Man came up when he was first ranked -- but even in metal form Amazing Man isn't anywhere near the sort of bruiser that Absorbing Man is. He certainly doesn't have the sort of strength needed to duke it out with the likes of the Hulk.

I would have thought he's a regular -- but I don't really know anything about this energy absorbing stuff. I just thought he could copy the properties of different substances. Still, I'd need to know the extent of his energy absorbing to be able to form an opinion on whether it bumps him up to medium. If its main use is telepathic defense, then that's no big deal -- everybody and their cousin has a way of stopping telepathy.

[punishermax]

Amazing Man (http://www.geocities.com/Area51/Labyrinth/7393/wwamazing.html)

[wiegeabo]

The only energy manipulation the bio has is magnetic. And his Wiki bio confirms that, but also states when he gained his magnetic powers, he lost his ability to mimic substances.

[AnnoyingSilence]

i still say, atleast medium