Stargate SG-1/Atlantis/Universe

[wiegeabo]

We used to get SG-1 first when it was Showtime, and even the first season it was with Sci-Fi, I think. But then Sky One (or whatever their name is) started co-financing and co-producing the show. So Canada got first rights.

[Superfreak]

Technically, if you want to get territorial about it, Canada should get it first. It is filmed there.

indeed. And there is much canadian funding that has gone into the show aswell. I hate BL's perspective on the subject, sorry, but I find it childish. This is TV. TV is meant to broadcast cheaply to the masses. I've never understood the need for things to air at different times in different places. It makes no sense to me. Defeats the purpose of the medium all together. Might as well go back to the old days of having a travelling circus show.

that being said: I'm kind of glad SGA is done. Hopefully it will open up some space in the sci fi ether and let some new fresh science fiction TV take root.

[Superfreak]

We used to get SG-1 first when it was Showtime, and even the first season it was with Sci-Fi, I think. But then Sky One (or whatever their name is) started co-financing and co-producing the show. So Canada got first rights.

we don't get sky1 up here, that's a brit channel. I believe the reason Canada started getting it among the first was because Alliance had their greedy little fingers in there for a while (I think they lease the studio in hongcouver aswell)

[TheCorpulent1]

indeed. And there is much canadian funding that has gone into the show aswell. I hate BL's perspective on the subject, sorry, but I find it childish. This is TV. TV is meant to broadcast cheaply to the masses. I've never understood the need for things to air at different times in different places. It makes no sense to me. Defeats the purpose of the medium all together. Might as well go back to the old days of having a travelling circus show.

that being said: I'm kind of glad SGA is done. Hopefully it will open up some space in the sci fi ether and let some new fresh science fiction TV take root.
I'm excited to see what comes out next too. Hopefully they take more cues from the BSG reboot than Stargate. Create solid drama with sci fi almost incidental to it rather than shoehorning every tired cliché of the genre into every episode.

[Superfreak]

I'm excited to see what comes out next too. Hopefully they take more cues from the BSG reboot than Stargate. Create solid drama with sci fi almost incidental to it rather than shoehorning every tired cliché of the genre into every episode.

me too. Make a 'real' TV show, and place it in a sci fi setting. I think that's been BSG's most novel addition to the sci fi genre. I'd be totally down for a Back To the Future tv show, with SGA's budget

[oldsboy20]

Anyone else see the Vegas episode? That was a great episode. I wasn't sure where they were going with it at first then you realize at the end what they were doing. The last couple seconds was the best part especially with Johnny Cash's "Solitary Man". Sad what happened to that Shepard but I guess he redeemed himself in the end but man I wish he would've survived. I wasn't a really big fan of SGA but this season has been pretty good.

[wiegeabo]

I thought Vegas was great. It was a nice departure from the norm and well done. I'd watch a gritty series like that. Dark detective on a mission to stop and hide alien incursions on the Earth. Sort of like Men In Black but more grounded and badass.

I cracked up at Rodney and Zelenka. They were so calm and cool, until they started arguing, and then resorted to the classic petty bickering.

The one thing I didn't like was the poor way the explained what happened to the pulse. They never came out and clearly said they may have let slip the location of Earth in another reality.

[Superfreak]

I thought Vegas was great. It was a nice departure from the norm and well done. I'd watch a gritty series like that. Dark detective on a mission to stop and hide alien incursions on the Earth. Sort of like Men In Black but more grounded and badass.

I cracked up at Rodney and Zelenka. They were so calm and cool, until they started arguing, and then resorted to the classic petty bickering.

The one thing I didn't like was the poor way the explained what happened to the pulse. They never came out and clearly said they may have let slip the location of Earth in another reality.

yeah, but as part 1 of a 2 parter, it is more clearly explained in part 2

[TheCorpulent1]

I liked "Vegas" a lot. I didn't really consider it part 1 of anything, though. There's a very, very loose connection between it and the next episode.

[Sam Fisher]

Vegas was awasome!

[BlackLantern]

if anyone cares, Sci-Fi is running Atlantis all this week during the day and all day Friday leading into the finale

[PuddleJumper67]

Vegas was awesome. Check out the preview for the series finale:

http://stargate.mgm.com/video.php?id=183

Looks like a classic.

[zanos]

I saw it already. Trust me it's not. Far from it.

[TheCorpulent1]

It did feel pretty underwhelming for a series finale.

[BlackLantern]

so was SG-1's....so at least they're sticking with tradition....TNGs finale was underwhelming, I can only imagine how the hardcore Trek folk felt about it

[TheCorpulent1]

SG-1's didn't bother me too much because it was all about the remaining cast members being all sentimental with each other, which is something that works in a finale for me. Plus, I knew the DVDs were right around the corner.

I don't even remember TNG's finale, so I bet it probably was underwhelming. Finales are tough anyway. It's almost impossible to cover every base and remember what made the show great while also cramming an actual plot into one episode.

[wiegeabo]

I liked TNG's finale (Q shifting Picard through three different time periods). Although there was much more action in DS9 and Voyager's finales. DS9 probably had the best.

SG-1's finale didn't need to be a true finale since Ark of Truth was around the corner. I have a feeling Atlantis is the same (although I'm not watching it for another couple of hours.)



Now...Quantum Leap's finale...:cmad:

[TheCorpulent1]

Best finale still goes to Farscape's The Peacekeeper Wars mini for me. I was pissed that it got canceled, but that finale blew me the f*** away in every good way imaginable. Angel's "Not Fade Away" was also pretty solid.

[wiegeabo]

I've...only just started watching Farscape.

[TheCorpulent1]

Oh, you're in for so many good things. :)

[wiegeabo]

One of those shows where you wish you could unwatch it all so you can watch it all over again?

[TheCorpulent1]

Yeah, although it's been so long since I've watched the whole series that a lot of it would probably feel new to me. If I weren't busy watching every British TV show under the sun, I would probably start re-watching Farscape now. :up:

[wiegeabo]

Speaking of British tv shows, I'm so glad the new season of Hustle has started. :D

[TheCorpulent1]

Never heard of it, but Wikipedia tells me it's got the brother of him who is Gene Hunt in it, so I'm immediately interested. I'll check it out eventually.

[wiegeabo]

Very much worth checking out. Season 4 was a little off, but the premier of this season was golden.

[TheCorpulent1]

Wow, it's 5 seasons in and it's a British TV show? The ones I tend to watch last like 2 seasons at most.

[wiegeabo]

Heh. I know. Just look at Jekyll.

Six episodes a season for 5 seasons. That's a heck of a run on the BBC. I think only Doctor Who and Top Gear get that type of treatment.

[Sam Fisher]

I'm probably in the minority here but I liked the finale.

[wiegeabo]

Ok, not a horrible episode. Actually, I thought it was pretty good, although fast. But not really a series finale. Seems like it was supposed to only be a season finale, or that they had planned to use it at the end of next season after a bunch of buildup in episodes about the Wraith planning something big (ZPM Hive ship). Either way, I think the cancellation caught the writers off guard.

This should have really been a two parter.
The first half all about stopping the new Hive ship and then ending with the discovery that the Wraith now know the location of Earth.
The second half trying to stop them and all their efforts failing until the end when Atlantis shows up. Much like the season 6 two-part premier of SG1 when Anubus tried blowing up the gate.

As for Atlantis showing up, the only problem I have is that they never mentioned the wormhole drive before. Had they done it in, say, the first couple of episodes, with Rodney failing to get it working, it would have been better. We could also have had a scene with Radick finally getting to hold something over Rodney (getting the drive to work). I would also have liked to have seen the drive in operation.

[Sam Fisher]

At least we're getting a Atlantis movie.

[wiegeabo]

2 movies, right?

[Sam Fisher]

I think so. The first one is supposed to air this year{or at least Sci Fi wants it to}. We're also getting another SG1 movie.


And before anyone goes off blaming Sci Fi for cancelling Atlantis, it was the prodcuers' and MGM's decision.

[wiegeabo]

Wait...we're getting a third SG1 movie?!

[Sam Fisher]

Wait...we're getting a third SG1 movie?!
Yes. It's going to center around O'neill.

[Superfreak]

One of those shows where you wish you could unwatch it all so you can watch it all over again?

I just watched the whole series a little while ago... still brilliant... and it's one of the few sci fi shows that actually got a full budget for it's finale, in which you will not be dissappointed

[Superfreak]

I saw it already. Trust me it's not. Far from it.

Don't worry 'bout PuddleJumper67... he's just a cheap advertiser... since he's arrived on this thread, I don't think he/she has actually posted anything other than promotion

[BlackLantern]

I watched 'Vegas' last night, and I really enjoyed it....I guess it's also a treat for the production staff because they get to incorporate music into a show that is basically all instrumental

[Superfreak]

I watched 'Vegas' last night, and I really enjoyed it....I guess it's also a treat for the production staff because they get to incorporate music into a show that is basically all instrumental

honestly it feels like they watched the S1 finale to Sarah Conner Chronicles, and went, 'hey, we should use some JC on SGA'. That's how it felt atleast

[BlackLantern]

Let's take stock....10 years of SG-1, 5 years of Atlantis, plenty of characters aliens and all that....considering this all sprung from an underappreciated mid 90s film....what do you all feel is Stargates contribution to the genre?

[TheCorpulent1]

Humor. Stargate has contributed self-referential humor. It's been totally unafraid of exposing the inherent silliness of common sci-fi tropes and turning them into mildly satirical, affectionate jokes.
Yes. It's going to center around O'neill.
Holy snapplecrap, that's awesome. I didn't expect to see O'Neill in the Stargate universe ever again. :up:

[BlackLantern]

He had one of the best lines in Continuum - "watch the bad guy get executed and then there's cake"

[TheCorpulent1]

Yeah, and I thought that bit part was the last we'd see of him. I'm glad he'll be taking a more prominent role in the next SG-1 movie. The Stargate universe hasn't been the same without him.

[Superfreak]

Humor. Stargate has contributed self-referential humor. It's been totally unafraid of exposing the inherent silliness of common sci-fi tropes and turning them into mildly satirical, affectionate jokes.




indeed, but I think in the SG1 7+ years, including atlantis, maybe took the concept a little too far. I did enjoy the irony, and so did the characters, of the ease of their escapes and success of their far fetched plans . But the joke wore a little thin after a while. Most especially without RDA to deliver the sarcastic remarks.

I think what Stargate did that was novel, was setting a grand space opera, in our contemporary world, under the guise that this secret is so big, the general human population couldn't deal with the reality. Essentially our present, in a futuristic scifi setting. Novel indeed.

[joke]

What interested me about SG-1 most was that it was just the Air Force with contemporary human weapons against aliens. They didn't have insanely advanced technology or spaceships, they just sort of managed to handle the situation. Plus every time they actually did find some new technology to counter the Goa'ulds, the Goa'ulds in turn came up with something more powerful. The way they also tied culture and history, especially Egyptian, into the story was great.

SG-1 will always be superior to Atlantis, even though it started to drop in quality when season 8 rolled in and no, it's not *just* because RDA left. The Ori were a disappointment in my eyes, Mitchell was just O'Neill-lite and the human tech just got out of hand.

[Goddessreicho]

So um...what happened with Teyla's baby and husband man, or um TODD! Don't tell me that we're supposed to swallow Teyla being a'ok with the fact that Baby is in another galaxy in which there is no hope of returning to...

And I will end this mini rant with, Todd enjoy your permanent stay in San Fran. But's its cool, it's not like you weren't written in a show before without an explanation *cough* CSI: Atlantis *cough*

[wiegeabo]

So um...what happened with Teyla's baby and husband man, or um TODD! Don't tell me that we're supposed to swallow Teyla being a'ok with the fact that Baby is in another galaxy in which there is no hope of returning to...

And I will end this mini rant with, Todd enjoy your permanent stay in San Fran. But's its cool, it's not like you weren't written in a show before without an explanation *cough* CSI: Atlantis *cough*


Wait, what do you mean? Atlantis isn't permanently stuck on Earth. They just need to effect repairs, and probably get a new ZPM (which the ships have).

And I don't remember them saying where Teyla's baby was. I remember in one episode it was with the father on another world. But in a later one, he was back with Teyla on Atlantis. So he could be there now.

And Todd was introduced in the episode where Sheppard was captured by the Genii. They used Todd to torture Sheppard until the two decided to work together to escape. Todd almost killed Sheppard by draining him, then returned his life to him. Sheppard's actions is what made Todd marginally sympathetic to the humans.

[BlackLantern]

I liked Mitchell, he did have some O'Neil-ish traits, but both had similar military careers....but there are things he did that made the character his own....and I have a bit of a hetero man crush on Ben Browder

[wiegeabo]

I liked Mitchell, he did have some O'Neil-ish traits, but both had similar military careers....but there are things he did that made the character his own....and I have a bit of a hetero man crush on Ben Browder

It's his voice. It gets to you...

[TheCorpulent1]

I thought Browder gave a good performance, but Mitchell as a character never seemed to have any purpose. Okay, he's a big fanboy and he brings SG-1 back together after they've split up. Cool. But what does he actually contribute? They say he's an ace pilot who never gives up, but then they never have him actually pilot anything (as opposed to Sheppard, who flies something in just about every episode) and no one on the team gives up, so that's moot. They gave him that super-nifty martial arts training from that hidden Jaffa tribe, but then he still got his ass kicked in like every episode after that. Really, the only distinctive thing Mitchell ever did was use a bigger gun than the P90 in some episodes.

[BlackLantern]

I have really liked the evolution of technology as the series has gone on....from the X-301 and that whole issue, to the F-302 and the big ships like the Odyssey and the Daedalus...and the hesitation that came with it....characters didn't just accept the big shiny toys

anyone pick up on the conversation that Sheppard was having with Col. Caldwell about the Odyssey being on some super secret mission that no one is supposed to know about??

[TheCorpulent1]

Yeah. I didn't give it much thought, though.

I liked the evolution of technology up to a point. I think that point was the Replicator-killer gun. Now that the humans have literally all of the Asgard's knowledge at their disposal, it's even worse. I would've been content if they'd just stayed at the 302/Prometheus level indefinitely.

[Kahoot]

I thought Browder gave a good performance, but Mitchell as a character never seemed to have any purpose. Okay, he's a big fanboy and he brings SG-1 back together after they've split up. Cool. But what does he actually contribute? They say he's an ace pilot who never gives up, but then they never have him actually pilot anything (as opposed to Sheppard, who flies something in just about every episode) and no one on the team gives up, so that's moot. They gave him that super-nifty martial arts training from that hidden Jaffa tribe, but then he still got his ass kicked in like every episode after that. Really, the only distinctive thing Mitchell ever did was use a bigger gun than the P90 in some episodes.
I can't believe I never noticed that the pilot never flew anything.


Anyone pick up on the conversation that Sheppard was having with Col. Caldwell about the Odyssey being on some super secret mission that no one is supposed to know about??
What's that all about then?


Yeah. I didn't give it much thought, though.

I liked the evolution of technology up to a point. I think that point was the Replicator-killer gun. Now that the humans have literally all of the Asgard's knowledge at their disposal, it's even worse. I would've been content if they'd just stayed at the 302/Prometheus level indefinitely.
Yeah I liked that it started off as normal people with a stargate and slowly they became space ship pilots and we had our own mother ships. But then it just kept going, they could kill the Replicators when the Asgard couldn't and not just with bullets like in the begining. And of course as much as I hated the Ori I hated that the SGC wiped them out in such a short battle when they were all powerful and nearly gods.

[TheCorpulent1]

Yep. On one hand, it was a pretty organic development process--one leap in tech led to another led to another, etc.--but on the other hand, by the end of the series they had just taken it way, way too far. It diluted the core concept of ordinary Earth-folk trying to get by in a universe filled with more advanced aliens. A Goa'uld System Lord would get slaughtered in a fight against Earth by Atlantis season 4, even if Earth hadn't already wiped almost all of them out.

[Dr Lee]

Mitchell did fly something..... he operated the flight controls of the Odyssey during Flesh and Blood and he flew a F-302 at the end of the S9 opening 3-parter.

[Kahoot]

Atlantis takes the evolution of technology a step futher. They can cure the Wraith and apparently the Ancient couldn't. We're about to win a war on the Wraith that the all powerful Ancients lost.

[BlackLantern]

It's not a direct cure as it can mutate some Wraith

[Kahoot]

It's not a direct cure as it can mutate some Wraith
Is this a new-ish development? I don't remember that.

[TheCorpulent1]

Newish in the sense that it happened in the latter half of this season. With the initial version of the cure, there was a ridiculously high fatality rate and it tended to turn the grunt Wraith with the face masks into feral psychos. Todd refined the cure somehow, I think, so that it could be used more safely. I'm blanking on some of the details, though, so I might be wrong about that last bit.
Mitchell did fly something..... he operated the flight controls of the Odyssey during Flesh and Blood and he flew a F-302 at the end of the S9 opening 3-parter.
Yeah, but he didn't do anything particularly noteworthy either time. Compare that to O'Neill making the first successful test flight with the 302 or any of the death-defying stuff Sheppard has done or even Teal'c's use of the Goa'uld fighters and Mitchell comes off as a pretty lame "ace pilot."

[BlackLantern]

I guess now that Atlantis is back on Earth, Teal'c and Ronon can have a rematch

[TheCorpulent1]

I figured Atlantis would just fly off back to the Pegasus. It's not like the Wraith have been stopped permanently. They just managed to protect Earth from the Wraith's super-Hive.

[wiegeabo]

I think Caldwell's mention of the Odyssey might have something to do with Stargate: Universe.

As for the Wraith drug, Todd still hasn't made it work right. It slowly kills all the Wraith or destroys their minds. He only killed himself by letting a Queen Iratis bug feed on him.

[BlackLantern]

one of my favorite exchanges

Daniel: They said they are going to have a Mal Doran...

Vala: Am I the judge?

Daniel: No

Vala: Then it's not a real Mal Doran

[wiegeabo]

What's that from?

[BlackLantern]

I don't recall the name of the episode, but it was when they went to a world who still knew Vala as Qatesh and then some on the planet decided they didn't want to worship what they considered a false god and put her on trial

[Gold Samurai]

Spoilers for Stargate Universe's Pilot

http://stargate-sg1-solutions.com/blog/?p=2488

[Dr Lee]

not completely sold on SG:U atm....still mifed at the way the announcement was mis-handled.

definately watching the first 3-parter past that...... dunno yet.

[BlackLantern]

I will give a show 3 episodes to get me interested....if not then I'll catch it in reruns

[TheCorpulent1]

I'm sure I'll watch it for a while and either be pleasantly surprised or just forget about it and stop following it eventually.

[Gold Samurai]

For those that didn't like the wormhole drive or as I like to call it the "plot drive" some bad news



http://josephmallozzi.wordpress.com/2009/01/15/january-15-2009-writerexecutive-producernotorious-recluse-paul-mullie-answers-your-questions/

A wormhole drive is just that – a drive that sends the ship through a wormhole, like a person stepping through an active gate. The advantage being that you don’t “travel” through hyperspace for hours on end. You get de-molecularized, or whatever you want to call it, and then spit out at the other end a few seconds later. It’s basically instantaneous, which is why I needed it as a device in this episode. Some people have complained that it was a bit of a deus ex-machina, to which I don’t really have much of a defense. At one point, Brad was thinking about using this as a set-up for a similar drive in Stargate Universe, but he’s since changed his mind. But since it IS set up now, Joe and I do intend to use it as part of the story for the Atlantis movie.

[TheCorpulent1]

Eh, I've long since gotten over the blatant and frequent use of deus ex machinae in Stargate shows.

[wiegeabo]

I don't have a problem with them creating a wormhole drive. I just wish they had mentioned it in a prior episode early on in the season. Maybe even showing or describing an example failure to establish how dangerous it is. Wouldn't have been so dues ex.

And the deus ex nature of Stargate has never really bothered me. Although Atlantis has taken it to the next level. Usually in SG-1, they always introduced something first, and then figured out how to adapt it later on at the last minute.

[Superfreak]

I don't have a problem with them creating a wormhole drive. I just wish they had mentioned it in a prior episode early on in the season. Maybe even showing or describing an example failure to establish how dangerous it is. Wouldn't have been so dues ex.

And the deus ex nature of Stargate has never really bothered me. Although Atlantis has taken it to the next level. Usually in SG-1, they always introduced something first, and then figured out how to adapt it later on at the last minute.

indeed, SG1 used it, and poked fun at it from time to time. But as you say, atlantis took it to the point where it almost wasn't funny anymore, and just a cheap way to solve a problem without any real narrative effort.

it didn't bother me so much in SG1, but it bothered me a lot more in Atlantis.

[wiegeabo]

http://www.comingsoon.net/news/tvnews.php?id=51985

Looks like the cast for SG:U is starting to shape up.

[PuddleJumper67]

Great clip -- the cast and crew celebrate the 100th episode:

http://stargate.mgm.com/video.php?id=181

[BlackLantern]

I watched 'Flesh and Blood' last night....I forget that SG-1 and Stargate Command took a serious spanking from the Ori that season

[Sam Fisher]

http://www.diamondselecttoys.com/article.asp?ai=79980

These figures are cool.

[MaydayParker]

Ooh! Awesome Action Figures!

I'm new here. Huge Stargate SG-1 fan here, but I never really got into Atlantis.

[Sam Fisher]

Welcome! Me too. I've always was more into SG1.

[TheCorpulent1]

I liked both. Atlantis definitely felt a lot more derivative than SG-1, though. SG-1's first few seasons felt very fresh and novel, since the vast majority of cosmic sci fi actually took place out on spaceships in the distant future. Stargate was one of the first to take those concepts and really embed them as much as possible into "our world."

[MaydayParker]

Welcome! Me too. I've always was more into SG1.
Thanks!

I liked both. Atlantis definitely felt a lot more derivative than SG-1, though. SG-1's first few seasons felt very fresh and novel, since the vast majority of cosmic sci fi actually took place out on spaceships in the distant future. Stargate was one of the first to take those concepts and really embed them as much as possible into "our world."
That was one of the things I loved about it too. When watching it, I always catch myself saying "Now we're in trouble," instead of now "Now they're in trouble."
I think that that's the true mark of a good Sci-Fi. You start refurring to the people of Earth in the show as like that. :woot:

[TheCorpulent1]

Yeah, totally. I think we lost a lot of that from the 8th season on, when so much of the action started taking place on the Prometheus and other ships.

[MaydayParker]

Yeah. They seemed to forget what really made the show great.

And trying to have it without O'Neill?! Forget it! Didn't they learn anything from when they killed Danny off? :whatever:

[GhostPoet]

I liked them both pretty equally, but for different reasons. I like SG-1 because they use the Gate a bit more. but I like Atlantis because they are farther out in the universe and there's very little to do with earth.

[MaydayParker]

Another thing that kinda threw me off Atlantis was that you had to suddenly forget all about SG-1 and get to know these other characters that barely showed up in SG:SG-1 at all.

Sheppered is cool and all, but we didn't really know much about him, so his attitude came off badly.

[TheCorpulent1]

You learn quite a bit about Shep as the show goes on, though.
Yeah. They seemed to forget what really made the show great.

And trying to have it without O'Neill?! Forget it! Didn't they learn anything from when they killed Danny off? :whatever:
Eh, I didn't mind O'Neill's departure. I just wish they'd done more with Mitchell. He really lacked an identity within the group and, consequently, within the show.

[MaydayParker]

But by then its a little late. I'd already been annoyed too much by him.


True that about Mitchell. I still to this day can't remeber his whole name.
And I'm sorry, but Stargate just isn't Stargate without Jack.

[TheCorpulent1]

I think a lot of things contributed to the awkwardness of the last few seasons. The show had a sturdy enough foundation to withstand a few changes, but the rapid-fire changes that started happening around season 8--Jack's promotion due to RDA's request for less screen time, Mitchell's introduction, the Goa'uld's defeat, the Ori's introduction, Daniel's personality change, Vala's addition, the greater emphasis on spaceship and super-high-tech stuff, the Asgard's departure, etc.--were just too much. The show was practically unrecognizable by the final episode.

[DTL Commish]

After O'Neil took the promotion in season 8, the show never seemed to take place in space anymore. Pretty much earthbound, which defeats the purpose of the show.

Once he left, it became all about the Ori. Not necessarily bad, but they never seemed to do anything except deal with the Ori. No more exploration. Even the G'ould would have been too much if they mix it up with other storylines. I think the problem was, each year they assumed they'd be canceled, so they had keep focused on the Ori and ready to end it any time.

[TheCorpulent1]

Haha, forgot to change names there, huh, wieg? ;)

Yeah, the focus in the final two seasons was way too much on the Ori. No more planets that were just interesting in their own right; everywhere SG-1 went was directly related to the Ori. Also, the challenge just wasn't there anymore because we knew exactly how the Ori situation would be resolved: convenient deus ex machina tech. That's the way every major conflict in SG-1 started getting resolved by that point.

[Dr Lee]

Too much changed too quickly for a lot of people to handle, IMHO.

Had they gone with the 'Stargate:Command' idea they had instead of continuing SG-1 for 2 more years then i think a lot of the changes would have been accepted.

[wiegeabo]

Haha, forgot to change names there, huh, wieg? ;)

Shut up you! :cmad:

[TheCorpulent1]

Too much changed too quickly for a lot of people to handle, IMHO.

Had they gone with the 'Stargate:Command' idea they had instead of continuing SG-1 for 2 more years then i think a lot of the changes would have been accepted.
I definitely would've found Vala's presence, Mitchell shooting up to the top of SG-1's command structure, and the new bad guys much more palatable if they'd been the launching point for a totally new show rather than a drastic shift in the SG-1 series.

[BlackLantern]

I like Vala....in a naughty way

[wiegeabo]

I definitely would've found Vala's presence, Mitchell shooting up to the top of SG-1's command structure, and the new bad guys much more palatable if they'd been the launching point for a totally new show rather than a drastic shift in the SG-1 series.

Thinking back on it, I agree. A new series lasting 5 or so years, like Atlantis, would have been the perfect place for the Ori saga. You have the new SG-1 as the stars, but you also start to focus on other teams. And plenty of time for non-Ori stories to allow for a more dramatic buildup of their threat.

Then, if Atlantis ends like now, Command is still going, and Universe starts in the summer.

[TheCorpulent1]

I could've done without Carter and Teal'c, even. Just have Mitchell assemble a new SG-1 and have Daniel accompany them on missions in an advisory (read: not pwning b****es with his P90 like Rambo) capacity. Let's be honest--what did Carter and Teal'c really add to the show in seasons 9 and 10? Their character arcs were basically over, with Carter movin' on up the ranks, gaining her own command, and becoming the go-to gal for sciency stuff in the Stargate universe and Teal'c attaining and overseeing the freedom for his race that he sought so fervently. They could guest-star every once in a while, but Mitchell, Vala, Daniel, and some newb would've created a new dynamic for a new team on a new show facing a new threat, which would've made the whole shebang feel much fresher.

[Sam Fisher]

I didn't mind the last few seasons. Not a big fan of the Ori though. And what's the point of having ships if you have a stargate?

[TheCorpulent1]

The Stargate malfunctioned or got attacked a hell of a lot.

[lou2099]

. Huge Stargate SG-1 fan here, but I never really got into Atlantis.I don't like Stargate SG-1, but I am brand new to Atlantis and I must say I like those characters better.

[Baggers]

Christopher McDonald is SGU’s Senator Armstrong: http://www.gateworld.net/news/2009/02/christopher-mcdonald-is-sgus-senator-armstrong/

Lou Diamond Phillips cast on Stargate Universe: http://www.gateworld.net/news/2009/02/lou-diamond-phillips-cast-on-stargate-universe/

Huffman completes Stargate Universe cast: http://www.gateworld.net/news/2009/02/huffman-completes-stargate-universe-cast/

ER, Smallville alums join Stargate Universe: http://www.gateworld.net/news/2009/02/er-smallville-alums-join-stargate-universe/

:)

[BlackLantern]

I watched '200' again recently and I think its great....especially the puppets and DeLuise swearing his ass off at the end...."and we can get away with that, because its cable"

[Sam Fisher]

I love 200. One of my favorite episodes. It's so much better than the 100th episode I think.

[BlackLantern]

I'm the General and I said make it spin

[Sam Fisher]

http://www.gateworld.net/news/2009/03/bookend-atlantis-episodes-coming-to-blu-ray/

[Sam Fisher]

I'm the General and I said make it spinRight

[TheCorpulent1]

http://www.gateworld.net/news/2009/03/bookend-atlantis-episodes-coming-to-blu-ray/
Kind of a terrible deal.

[Sam Fisher]

BTW, not that it really matters, but shouldn't the thread tite be changed since we're getting a third series?

[TheCorpulent1]

Better?

[Sam Fisher]

That was quick:p

[TheCorpulent1]

I am the Flash of the Justice League of Modmerica. :cool:

[wiegeabo]

Funny how the old posts still have the old title.

[TheCorpulent1]

Yeah, well, I'm not gonna change every single post's title because that's stupid and I'm lazy.

[Sam Fisher]

Yeah, well, I'm not gonna change every single post's title because that's stupid and I'm lazy.Why would you do that anyways? What's the point?:D

[TheCorpulent1]

I don't know, ask wieg.

[Baggers]

Carlyle: Stargate Universe is about survival:

http://www.gateworld.net/news/2009/03/carlyle-stargate-universe-is-about-survival/

[The Squirrel]

Carlyle: Stargate Universe is about survival:

http://www.gateworld.net/news/2009/03/carlyle-stargate-universe-is-about-survival/

hmm...

[Baggers]

hmm...

Good hmmm or bad hmmm??

[TheCorpulent1]

Heh, people are already calling it "Stargate: Galactica." :D

[wiegeabo]

I was calling it Stargate: Voyager :p

[Baggers]

Heh, people are already calling it "Stargate: Galactica." :D

Yeah I been hearing that around, least it's better than calling it "Stargate: Voyager" :p lol from what we have heard, SG:U sounds like it's gonnabe "darker" and more "depressive" than what we got with SG-1 and SG:A...

[TheCorpulent1]

I was calling it Stargate: Voyager :p
Well, the Galactica moniker apparently comes from the fact that they're gonna be killing characters off left and right and fighting for survival aboard their ship. Carlyle mentioned there's even a suicide by episode six.

[Baggers]

Well, the Galactica moniker apparently comes from the fact that they're gonna be killing characters off left and right and fighting for survival aboard their ship. Carlyle mentioned there's even a suicide by episode six.

Yeah looks like SG:U gonna use that "dark, moody, hopeless and depressing" take on sci-fi that's made the "reimaged" Galactica famous for!!

Not too sure how much it's gonna work in the SG universe tho, cause both SG-1 and SG:A both been famous for there "humour"...

[TheCorpulent1]

Maybe they'll switch to gallows humor for Universe. ;)

[Baggers]

Maybe they'll switch to gallows humor for Universe. ;)

Lol ;)

But in all seriousness, from what we heard and seen, this series gonnabe pretty dark, even the Ancient ship the "Destiny" looks like a dark and grim ship compared to other Ancient ships...

*"Destiny":

This image reminds me more of something out of "Alien" reminds me sooo much of the "Nostromo":

http://i76.photobucket.com/albums/j30/baggers911/StargateUniverse_shuttlebridge.jpg


http://i76.photobucket.com/albums/j30/baggers911/StargateUniverse_CorridorHub.jpg

*Aurora-class battleship:

http://i76.photobucket.com/albums/j30/baggers911/800px-Still1230056603.jpg

http://i76.photobucket.com/albums/j30/baggers911/800px-AuroraCorridor.jpg

http://i76.photobucket.com/albums/j30/baggers911/800px-AuroraCommandChair.jpg

[The Squirrel]

Good hmmm or bad hmmm??

Haven't made up my mind hmmm.

[Baggers]

Haven't made up my mind hmmm.

Okay :)

[Gold Samurai]

Carlyle: Stargate Universe is about survival:


yes surviving the first season :P

[vindrow]

Oh boy, Stargate 90210...can't wait.

[Baggers]

New details on SGU’s "Earth":

http://www.gateworld.net/news/2009/03/new-details-on-sgus-earth/

Brand new details have surfaced on “Earth,” the sixth episode of Stargate Universe’s premiere season! It turns out that that title is not just an element (like “Air,” “Fire” and “Water”) — it’s also the name of a planet.

“Earth” brings some members of the new crew of the Destiny back home — or at least their consciousnesses. As previously reported, an Ancient communications terminal discovered on board allows people on the ship to communicate with Earth from another galaxy, by swapping bodies with someone on Earth.

Guest characters in this episode include Dale Storm, Williams, and O’Neill. It is not known — but certainly possible — if this last character is a guest appearance by General Jack O’Neill (Richard Dean Anderson).

Storm is an I.O.A. representative who meets with Camille Wray (who is one of those stuck on the Destiny, played by Ming Na) in Washington, D.C. Wray knows that she has been I.O.A. middle management at best, and now she’s in a position that is very valuable to the organization — which seeks power and control of the Destiny and all that it represents. They’re counting on Wray to play ball, and she knows it.

Colonel Young (Justin Louis) also appears to be on Earth, meeting with Williams and O’Neill about a potentially dangerous plan.

“Earth” is written by former Stargate Atlantis writer/producer Martin Gero, and will go before cameras in a few weeks. As always, these details are subject to change as the episode goes through the production pipe.

Stick with GateWorld’s Stargate Universe Launch Center for more on the new series as we count down to the October premiere!

[Sam Fisher]

Ohh...any apperance by RDA is awasome.

[Baggers]

Ohh...any apperance by RDA is awasome.

:up: here's hoping for a Daniel Jackson or a Rodney McKay appearance now :)

[The Squirrel]

I like Gero's writing.

[Baggers]

Preview SGU this Friday!:

http://www.gateworld.net/news/2009/03/preview-sgu-this-friday/

[Sam Fisher]

Guess I'll be watching BSG tommorow night.

[Baggers]

Guess I'll be watching BSG tommorow night.

For the preview of SG: U and the BSG finale of course :cwink:

[TheCorpulent1]

I was going to watch BSG anyway. I guess I'll stop my friend when he's fast-forwarding through commercials and ask him to let the preview play, though.

[Baggers]

I was going to watch BSG anyway. I guess I'll stop my friend when he's fast-forwarding through commercials and ask him to let the preview play, though.

Good call!! :) I gotta wait for it to appear on-line, sucks to live in UK sometimes...lol

[Dr Lee]

FIRST SG: U CAST SHOT!

http://www.gateworld.net/news/2009/03/check-out-the-first-sgu-cast-photo/

[TheCorpulent1]

Are they all gonna be in plain clothes for the show? I kind of wanted to see them all dressed up and everything. Oh well, probably later tonight. :)

[Dark Helmet]

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=WcQeNKVkHKM

[wiegeabo]

WcQeNKVkHKM

Definitely looks more like Galactica than Voyager. :p

Seriously, looks like there was an evacuation, but instead of an alpha site, they ended up on the ship?

[TheCorpulent1]

It looks like they're specifically courting the BSG audience now that they'll effectively be homeless after tonight.

[Baggers]

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=WcQeNKVkHKM

:wow: if it didn't have a Stargate at the end I wouldn't of known it was a Stargate show...it feels sooo dark!! I think I'm gonna enjoy it :)

[Sam Fisher]

:wow: just ::wow:

[phoenixflight]

As a BSG fan, I have to say SG Universe really caught my eye...more so than Caprica did. I will be watching!!!

[TheCorpulent1]

Man, opinions for SGU swung around to the other direction pretty quick. I have to admit, I found it pretty interesting based on that preview, too.

[Gold Samurai]

http://img27.imageshack.us/img27/91/normalcastseason101.jpg


Carlyle- what have I got myself into?

Now let's see who will stay during the shows run lol.

The guy in the middle with his hands on the two girls shoulders looks like Jonah hill

That actually looked pretty damn cool, but anyone can make something look cool in twenty seconds.

[Baggers]

Man, opinions for SGU swung around to the other direction pretty quick. I have to admit, I found it pretty interesting based on that preview, too.

Yeah I know, after all we heard and the younger cast we was all scared but after that preview my hopes are back to 100% can't wait to see this show and a new take on the Stargate franchise :)

[Sam Fisher]

Man, opinions for SGU swung around to the other direction pretty quick. I have to admit, I found it pretty interesting based on that preview, too.
I was optimistic before but I'm defenitly watching now!

[Gold Samurai]

http://img11.imageshack.us/img11/8705/71867779.jpg


The Chevrons look interesting

[Sam Fisher]

^You beat me to it:p


http://img21.imageshack.us/img21/7489/sgulogo.jpg

[The Squirrel]

It looks cool, but I still wish we could have had both this and Atlantis on together.

[wiegeabo]

Indeed. :(

[Happenstance]

Looks interesting but also a bit too "Cloverfield" in places

[BlackLantern]

eh....I felt Atlantis had run its course, this seems a bit different

[TheCorpulent1]

http://img27.imageshack.us/img27/91/normalcastseason101.jpg


Carlyle- what have I got myself into?

Now let's see who will stay during the shows run lol.

The guy in the middle with his hands on the two girls shoulders looks like Jonah hill

That actually looked pretty damn cool, but anyone can make something look cool in twenty seconds.
Haha, holy crap, that dude does look like Jonah Hill. I saw that pic before and didn't notice. :)

I hope Lou Diamond Phillips sticks around. Carlyle I could see dying in the pilot after he's drawn in a bigger audience with his name-power, much like Robert Patrick in Atlantis' pilot. But Phillips is a really good, underrated actor who's been relegated to cameos and guest roles for too long, as far as I'm concerned. It'd be great if he stuck around full-time.

Also, is it me or did the Universe uniforms look a bit different from both the SGC and the Atlantis Expedition's uniforms?

[The Squirrel]

Looks interesting but also a bit too "Cloverfield" in places

It's a teaser, teaser trailer. :huh:

[Gold Samurai]

Also, is it me or did the Universe uniforms look a bit different from both the SGC and the Atlantis Expedition's uniforms?

Eh, everyone gets different uniforms. It was weird to see Sheppard in the SG-1 uniform in that season 3 or 4 episode.

[TheCorpulent1]

I liked it. SG-1's had the best uniforms, as far as I'm concerned. The Atlantis Expedition's uniforms were lame. Both versions.

[Sam Fisher]

I agree with you about SG1's uniforms. Though I haven't seen enough of Atlantis to comment on those.

[TheCorpulent1]

When does SGU premiere?

[Sam Fisher]

Sometime in the fall. Probably Augest or September.

[wiegeabo]

October.

And it might be a 3 hour premier movie!

[Sam Fisher]

Yes, I just heard it may be airing October 2nd.

[Asgard]

Wow. Im not feeling the cast except for LDP, Carlyle and Ming Na. Most of the rest look really young and somewhat out of place.

Still, Im a huge fan of the SG series' and hope Universe does well.

[Malice]

Can someone clarify...was Atlantis cancelled?
What new in the Stargate world is coming out...I saw little non-advertisement for Stargate Universe??

Thanks

[Sam Fisher]

Can someone clarify...was Atlantis cancelled?
What new in the Stargate world is coming out...I saw little non-advertisement for Stargate Universe??

Thanks
1. Yes, Atlantis was cancelled, however there will be at least one DTV Atlantis movie.
2. Stargate Worlds: I heard the company delvoping the game is in finiancal trouble but it doesn't look to have affected the delvopment of the game. There hasn't been a release date set yet.
3. The only thing out there for Universe really right now is the teaser (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=WcQeNKVkHKM). Universe is supposed to air in October.

:yay:

[Malice]

What are the thoughts on Universe?

Trapped on a ship called Destiny....built by the Ancients.......
Not sure about this one...
Any interesting links on this one?

[TheCorpulent1]

The premise sounded kind of lame to me, but the teaser looked good.

[carrrnuttt]

The premise sounded kind of lame to me, but the teaser looked good.

There's been a lot of lame premises lately that came out well in execution. A great example is NBC's "Life".

We can only hope that Robert Carlyle puts out as great a performance as Damian Lewis has.

[BlackLantern]

There's been a lot of lame premises lately that came out well in execution. A great example is NBC's "Life".

We can only hope that Robert Carlyle puts out as great a performance as Damian Lewis has.

great show....Charlie Crews is one of the best characters on TV right now

[TheCorpulent1]

Lost track of Life before the end of season 1. I gotta catch up on it.

[BlackLantern]

Lost track of Life before the end of season 1. I gotta catch up on it.

I found the first season on DVD for like 20 bucks.....its definitely worth it

[GhostPoet]

Looks different from the typical Stargate style...but that could be a good thing I suppose. I think it looks very interesting...and by the looks of it they are going to rely on the Gate A LOT. I like the fact there is going to be more inter-character strife.

[Baggers]

Richard Dean Anderson will be on Stargate Universe: http://www.gateworld.net/news/2009/04/richard-dean-anderson-will-be-on-stargate-universe/

woop woop!! :)

[Gold Samurai]

http://www.scifi.com/universe/index.php?sub=sgu&clip=2

0:24 got a Galactica vibe. Actually the whole trailer gave me a galactica vibe.

[TheCorpulent1]

Universe looks better than I thought it would, but I'm a little apprehensive about having a Stargate show that's so dark. Stargate has always been funny; it's one of the series' best aspects. I'm not saying the show is doomed to fail because people aren't cracking jokes or anything, but I hope they don't cut the humor out entirely.

[TheComicbookKid]

Based on a very basic thematic level, this could end up being the Star Trek:Voyager of the Stargate Franchise. Atlantis is DS9 and SG1 is TNG.

All we need is one bad Stargate Prequel series and then we can reboot this bad boy!

[Sam Fisher]

Why? Because they're stuck on a ship? That means BSG is also Star Trek Voyager...

[TheComicbookKid]

I was partly joking.

[TheCorpulent1]

It seems like thematically, Universe will be more DS9 than Voyager. It seems an awful lot darker and more serious than the preceding Stargate series.

[GhostPoet]

*cough* can someone imbed the trailer and post it?

[Dr Lee]

it may not be an imbed...... but this link has both trailers in it...

http://www.scifi.com/universe/index.php?sub=sgu&clip=2

Can't remember which one playes first

[The Squirrel]

I hadn't seen the newest trailer. Looks interesting. I hope they don't kill off to many people.

[Baggers]

Anderson confirms SGU appearances: http://www.gateworld.net/news/2009/04/anderson-confirms-sgu-appearances/

Shanks helps kick off Universe: http://www.gateworld.net/news/2009/04/shanks-helps-kick-off-universe/

:)

[TheCorpulent1]

Damn, so Shanks'll be there for all 3 Stargate premieres.

[Gold Samurai]

Damn, so Shanks'll be there for all 3 Stargate premieres.

His character of Daniel and Jack are the only ones allowed due to character rights issues.

[TheCorpulent1]

Doesn't MGM own all the character rights? :huh:

[carrrnuttt]

Damn, so Shanks'll be there for all 3 Stargate premieres.

The Stargate program itself wouldn't even exist, without Daniel's quirky genius. It's just fitting. :)

[Sam Fisher]

Doesn't MGM own all the character rights? :huh:Yea:huh:

[TheCorpulent1]

So how are there issues that prevent some from appearing? :huh:

[Gold Samurai]

So how are there issues that prevent some from appearing? :huh:

Teal'c and Carter can't appear in the premiere episode of a new series.

That's why you never saw them in "Rising part 1"

http://www.gateworld.net/atlantis/s1/101.shtml
"Carter and Teal'c are not going to be in the season premiere of Atlantis, and that I think has to do with legalities of the fact that our characters were created specifically for Stargate SG-1, and to carry us over into Atlantis would mean, I think, would mean bank-rolling one of the creators, you know, because our characters would help establish Atlantis. Rick and Michael, however -- their characters were already in the movie. So, from what I understand, Chris and I will be in Atlantis later on, but we can't be in the show that actually launches it."
(Actress Amanda Tapping, in an interview with GateWorld)

So if there is a fourth series(god forbid) Once again only Jack and Daniel can appear along with series created characters(past and present)

[TheCorpulent1]

Good God, legal issues are stupid.

[Kahoot]

Isn't the same person who invented the SG1 characters inventing the new show anyway? Shouldn't they still be getting paid?

[TheCorpulent1]

Well, the characters were originally created by Devlin and Emmerich for the movie, I think. Then Wright and Cooper developed the TV series and brought O'Neil(l) and Jackson over for it. Devlin and Emmerich have said in interviews that they still want to develop the rest of their Stargate story in movie form, but I doubt that'll ever happen.

[Baggers]

Isn't the same person who invented the SG1 characters inventing the new show anyway? Shouldn't they still be getting paid?

I think the legal issues is over the Stargate film: developed by Dean Devlin and directed by Roland Emmerich...

"Bridge Studios live-action television series: MGM bought the rights over the franchise and created the television series Stargate SG-1 in 1997 to follow the original film. Brad Wright and Jonathan Glassner developed the series, without the endorsement of Dean Devlin. Filming and development took place at Bridge Studios in Canada. Further developments of this canon involved Robert C. Cooper.

* Stargate SG-1 (1997–2007), followed by direct-to-DVD films
* Stargate Atlantis (2004–2009), followed by direct-to-DVD films
* Stargate Universe (2009)"

"Although the film was originally intended as the first of a trilogy of films,[12] Emmerich and Devlin ultimately moved on to produce Independence Day, and it was not until 2006 that Devlin showed renewed interest in developing sequels.[13] In the intervening time, copyright-holder MGM succeeded the film with the television series Stargate SG-1 without the input of Emmerich and Devlin"

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Stargate

[Kahoot]

I was talking about Tel'c and Carter. Wright and Cooper invented them and now they are making SGU aren't they?

As for the Devlin and Emmerich Stargate Universe/World didn't one of them write a few books as follow ups?

[Baggers]

I was talking about Tel'c and Carter. Wright and Cooper invented them and now they are making SGU aren't they?

As for the Devlin and Emmerich Stargate Universe/World didn't one of them write a few books as follow ups?

Yup http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Stargate_film_novels :)

[wiegeabo]

Good God, legal issues are stupid.

You know...if we killed all the lawyers, there'd be no one left to prosecute us. ;)

[Superfreak]

Good God, legal issues are stupid.

seriously. You'd think that Jack and Daniel would be the two characters they couldn't use, not the other way around.

[Dr Lee]

There was the big Stargate Convention near to the Bridge studios last week.... and interestingly enough both Shanks and Tapping, who were attending, had to swap their stage times to Sunday as they were both needed in the Studios on Saterday

Looks like the only one of SG-1 (Original team) missing will be Teal'c

[TheCorpulent1]

You know what'd be great? If Jonas put in an appearance in Universe. Langara could be one of the planets the Ancient ship goes to, right?

[Gold Samurai]

You know what'd be great? If Jonas put in an appearance in Universe. Langara could be one of the planets the Ancient ship goes to, right?

Jonas is dead

Season 10's "Counterstrike" mentions that the Ori conquered Jonas's homeworld.

Carter: "Meanwhile, we received word that five more planets have fallen to the Ori, including Hebridan and Langara."

[wiegeabo]

jonas is dead

season 10's "counterstrike" mentions that the ori conquered jonas's homeworld.

Carter: "meanwhile, we received word that five more planets have fallen to the ori, including hebridan and langara."

noooooooooooo!!!!

[Sam Fisher]

Boo!

[carrrnuttt]

Jonas is dead

Season 10's "Counterstrike" mentions that the Ori conquered Jonas's homeworld.

Carter: "Meanwhile, we received word that five more planets have fallen to the Ori, including Hebridan and Langara."

It doesn't necessarily mean Jonas is dead. There are many scenarios that can be made to explain his survival.

[The Squirrel]

I think Jonathan Glassner left the show, that is probably why they can't use some of the characters. Though why they can appear in later episodes, but not the pilot is confusing.

[TheCorpulent1]

Jonas is dead

Season 10's "Counterstrike" mentions that the Ori conquered Jonas's homeworld.

Carter: "Meanwhile, we received word that five more planets have fallen to the Ori, including Hebridan and Langara."
It doesn't necessarily mean Jonas is dead. There are many scenarios that can be made to explain his survival.
What he said.

[Gold Samurai]

The ORI burn everything and obliterate or enslave anything. Sure they didn't say he died only Langara was taken over but I choose to believe he's dead.

[TheCorpulent1]

And I choose to believe he's not. It's not like no one else ever got away from the Ori.

[Baggers]

Jonas is dead

Season 10's "Counterstrike" mentions that the Ori conquered Jonas's homeworld.

Carter: "Meanwhile, we received word that five more planets have fallen to the Ori, including Hebridan and Langara."

It doesn't necessarily mean Jonas is dead. There are many scenarios that can be made to explain his survival.

The ORI burn everything and obliterate or enslave anything. Sure they didn't say he died only Langara was taken over but I choose to believe he's dead.

And I choose to believe he's not. It's not like no one else ever got away from the Ori.

I know not canon but gives Jonas fans hope:

"Jonas is not mentioned in the series again, but after season 10's "Counterstrike" stated that the Ori conquered Jonas's homeworld,[11] Stargate producer Joseph Mallozzi said in his blog that "in [his] mind, Jonas went underground and is still alive somewhere, resisting the Ori army."[24]"

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Jonas_Quinn

Also was never really a big fan of Jonas cause he was replacing my fave characther: Daniel but in the end I warmed up to him. But found this banner and I feel it's alil harsh to Jonas, cause got all the other major cast characthers on over the years but no Jonas tho:

http://i76.photobucket.com/albums/j30/baggers911/Stargate_SG-1_cast_minus_Jonas_Quin.jpg

[Baggers]

I know not canon but gives Jonas fans hope:

"Jonas is not mentioned in the series again, but after season 10's "Counterstrike" stated that the Ori conquered Jonas's homeworld,[11] Stargate producer Joseph Mallozzi said in his blog that "in [his] mind, Jonas went underground and is still alive somewhere, resisting the Ori army."[24]"

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Jonas_Quinn

Also was never really a big fan of Jonas cause he was replacing my fave characther: Daniel but in the end I warmed up to him. But found this banner and I feel it's alil harsh to Jonas, cause got all the other major cast characthers on over the years but no Jonas tho:

http://i76.photobucket.com/albums/j30/baggers911/Stargate_SG-1_cast_minus_Jonas_Quin.jpg

Also the website I got the banner from mentions the fact of lack of Jonas in the website address lol:

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/File:Stargate_SG-1_cast_minus_Jonas_Quinn.jpg

[wiegeabo]

I liked Jonas pretty much from the beginning of season 6. He was a bit of a Daniel-lite, but soon grew into his own.

[Baggers]

I liked Jonas pretty much from the beginning of season 6. He was a bit of a Daniel-lite, but soon grew into his own.

Yeah, it did take me awhile to like him, I think I was like Jack O'Neill with his reactions to Jonas, it felt like he was trying to replace Daniel and be a "Daniel-lite" which didn't bode well with me or Jack O'Neill but in the end he gained are respect and he became his own characther and major part of SG-1 :)

[TheCorpulent1]

I loved Jonas. He was very precocious and super-smart without being arrogant. Daniel was my favorite character too, but in later years he got to be pretty arrogant and mean until, by seasons 9 and 10, he had basically taken Jack's place as the cynical hard-ass.

[Sam Fisher]

http://www.gateworld.net/news/2009/04/vancouver-convention-report-sunday/

Wright also announced that the new cut of “Children of the Gods” (story) is finished and now with MGM and FOX — and when it arrives it will include an audio commentary with Wright and actor Richard Dean Anderson (“Jack O’Neill”). The film will also be dedicated to Don S. Davis (“George Hammond”), who passed away last year (story).

http://www.gateworld.net/news/2009/04/third-sg-1-movie-has-a-go/

Third SG-1 movie has a go!

Wednesday - April 8, 2009

Category: GENERAL | Tags: Richard Dean Anderson, SG-1


by Darren Sumner
There’s finally progress on the third Stargate SG-1 movie, with news coming out from multiple sources over the last few days that MGM has officially given the film a green light for production. The movie is expected to film in 2009 — probably in the fall, to avoid too much production overlap with Stargate Universe.

“I can almost guarantee we are proceeding with the SG-1 movie this year,” executive producer Brad Wright told GateWorld in an interview last week. He said that deals are still being worked out, but he still plans to make it the same Jack O’Neill-centric film he first teased last year.

He said that the Atlantis film is also still in the works, and MGM has every intention of making it.

“When we start shooting the Stargate SG-1 movie depends on whether we do the two movies back-to-back,” Wright elaborated during his on-stage Q&A with executive producer Robert C. Cooper at the Creation convention Sunday. “The Stargate SG-1 movie will probably start shooting in the fall. I say ‘probably’ because there are a lot of deals that have to be finished being put in place before that can actually happen. That would leave the summer [of 2010] as the release time, roughly around the same as Continuum.”

Stargate: Continuum debuted on DVD and Blu-ray at the end of July, 2008.

The new movie is currently being written by Wright and Carl Binder, and will feature Richard Dean Anderson as O’Neill.

“I had a story idea that really worked with O’Neill,” Wright told the Vancouver crowd. “And it’s not just his character, by any means. It’s a Stargate story that brings O’Neill back in a big way.”

“The movie has been green-lit,” Anderson told his official fan site, RDAnderson.com. “There are so few details beyond the ‘go ahead,’ but I sat next to Charlie Cohen and across from Brad Wright at dinner two weeks ago (the cast dinner for the launch of Stargate Universe), and just an hour prior to sitting down to mediocre cuisine, Charlie had announced MGM’s intention to make the next Stargate movie.”

Producer Joseph Mallozzi reiterated that, although Stargate Universe and the SG-1 movie are moving forward right now, the studio still has every intention of producing the Stargate Atlantis movie. He and writing partner Paul Mullie are writing the script for that project, and hope to have the first draft done by the end of April.

“No firm production dates for either movies,” Mallozzi said, “but if I was a betting man, I’d be looking at this fall.”



Quantum Mechanix unveils Stargate maquettes, coasters (http://www.gateworld.net/news/2009/04/quantum-mechanix-unveils-stargate-maquettes-coasters/)
http://i318.photobucket.com/albums/mm401/spideyreloaded/sg1_001.jpg
http://i318.photobucket.com/albums/mm401/spideyreloaded/sg1_002.jpg

[TheCorpulent1]

The coasters are f***ing awesome. :D

[BlackLantern]

I loved Jonas. He was very precocious and super-smart without being arrogant. Daniel was my favorite character too, but in later years he got to be pretty arrogant and mean until, by seasons 9 and 10, he had basically taken Jack's place as the cynical hard-ass.

I just watched 'Unending' again and the scene between him and Vala in his quarters.....he's a total *******

[TheCorpulent1]

Yeah, he really is. He's kind of a douche to Mitchell throughout the seasons, too.

[Baggers]

Yeah, he really is. He's kind of a douche to Mitchell throughout the seasons, too.

Yeah I know :( Daniel did change alot in the show from how he started off (a sneezing, an allergy to everything, wimp, book worm, geek...the list goes on) then 10 years later Daniel changed alot mostly for the better but I have noticed the douche factor which I'm not happy about :( but oh well, Daniel will always be my fave characther :)

Tapping, other guest stars confirmed for SGU: http://www.gateworld.net/news/2009/04/tapping-other-guest-stars-confirmed-for-sgu/

[TheCorpulent1]

Maybe I've missed Jonas so much because he was sort of a return to who Daniel used to be.

[Kahoot]

Jonas was cool and I always felt it was a shame that Daniel came back and more or less told him to F-off. Then Valla came along and took up the 5th position he could've had. Or he could've went to work with SG2, SG3 something like that had just have a recuring role, a bit like the doctor.

[TheCorpulent1]

Actually, since he got bumped off SG-1, I was glad he went back to Kelowna. If he's not working directly with the best the SGC has to offer, better he go back to his own people and help them.

[Kahoot]

But SG1 isn't the best of the best. They were just scouts really. Other SG teams were fully scientists and fully marine-esk fighters. Jonas would've been leading a good scientists team or just in a scientists team.

Jonas could've been like Bill Lee but tess techy.

[TheCorpulent1]

Yeah, he could've done well on an all-science team, but that seems kind of boring for Jonas. He's as adventurous and intrepid as he is brainy.

[Superfreak]

Yeah, he could've done well on an all-science team, but that seems kind of boring for Jonas. He's as adventurous and intrepid as he is brainy.

who didn't love the point the story where Jonas was feeling responsible for Daniel's death... and trying to prove to RDA that he was the man to fill the spot on the team. Ahhh, the golden years of SG.

[TheCorpulent1]

Yeah, that was great. I thought they did a great job of showing Jack slowly warm up to Jonas over the course of that season, too.

[Superfreak]

Yeah, that was great. I thought they did a great job of showing Jack slowly warm up to Jonas over the course of that season, too.

yeah, but it was also the introductory episode(s) with Jonas trying to find his place. That was the first truely desperate moment on the SG IMO. And the first move against Earth by Anubis. And any 302 episode wins it for me.

[Baggers]

Just finished watching "Window of Opportunity" it's all about that ep, gotta love classic Stargate SG-1 :)

[Superfreak]

Just finished watching "Window of Opportunity" it's all about that ep, gotta love classic Stargate SG-1 :)

prolly the best episode of all SG tv. And it's all thanks to that 30 second montage of brilliance

[TheCorpulent1]

"Window of Opportunity" is the primary reason I bought the season 4 DVD set. :)

[Baggers]

prolly the best episode of all SG tv. And it's all thanks to that 30 second montage of brilliance

Yup god bless that montage, just seeing O'Neil and Teal'c golfing or seeing O'Neil kissing Sam and just having O'Neil smile everytime Sam looked over at him was priceless :)

"Window of Opportunity" is the primary reason I bought the season 4 DVD set. :)

:up:

[Superfreak]

Yup god bless that montage, just seeing O'Neil and Teal'c golfing or seeing O'Neil kissing Sam and just having O'Neil smile everytime Sam looked over at him was priceless :)



:up:

t'was actually the reason I went back and started watching from the beginning.

[Baggers]

t'was actually the reason I went back and started watching from the beginning.

:up::up:

I miss those glory days of SG-1, later seasons just felt like they lost the magic, and Atlantis to me felt like they took over the magic, most of Atlantis' ep felt like classic SG-1 and the chemisty between McKay and Sheppard was gold...reminded me of early O'Neil and Jackson :)

[BlackLantern]

so who is the 'hot chick' in the new show?? its kind of tough to beat Jewel Staite and Claudia Black

[Baggers]

so who is the 'hot chick' in the new show?? its kind of tough to beat Jewel Staite and Claudia Black

Jewel Staite and Claudia Black are hott!!*cough* don't forget about Amanda Tapping, and also I had a soft spot for Torri Higginson...*cough*

It depends what you go for but here's the "chicks" of SGU:

*Elyse Levesque as "Chloe Armstrong":

http://i76.photobucket.com/albums/j30/baggers911/elyselevesque.jpg

http://www.imdb.com/name/nm1137028/

*Alaina Huffman as "Tamara Johansen":

http://i76.photobucket.com/albums/j30/baggers911/AlainaKalanj5_none.jpg

http://www.imdb.com/name/nm0435509/

*Ming-Na as "Camile Wray":

http://i76.photobucket.com/albums/j30/baggers911/ming-na-wen-300.jpg

http://www.imdb.com/name/nm0001840/

;)

[TheCorpulent1]

Elyse Levesque is gorgeous.

[Baggers]

Elyse Levesque is gorgeous.

:up: that she is, I have a thing for Alaina Huffman also but that's thanx to Smallville dressing her up in leather and fishnets ;) (just not a fan of the short hair tho...) lol

[BlackLantern]

I dig the short hair.....

[TheCorpulent1]

She looks sort of like a younger Amanda Tapping to me...

[Baggers]

I dig the short hair.....

She looks sort of like a younger Amanda Tapping to me...

Yeah, now looking at her yeah in a way...maybe I'll let the short hair off then ;)

[Gold Samurai]

The original-band minus one, will all be making guest appearances on Universe this fall, with the announcement that Tapping will appear on the newest spinoff.
http://www.hollywoodreporter.com/hr/content_display/news/e3i4f136523a2618c0c9726c557a111ee7f

"SGU," toplined by Robert Carlyle, Lou Diamond Phillips and Ming-Na, follows a group of survivors aboard an ancient ship who are unable to return to Earth.

Four veterans of the "Stagate" franchise, Richard Dean Anderson, Amanda Tapping, Michael Shanks and Gary Jones, will reprise their roles in guest stints.

[Kahoot]

so who is the 'hot chick' in the new show?? its kind of tough to beat Jewel Staite and Claudia Black
Claudia Black was never hot. Now the wee gray chick on Farscape was hot!



*Ming-Na as "Camile Wray":

http://i76.photobucket.com/albums/j30/baggers911/ming-na-wen-300.jpg

http://www.imdb.com/name/nm0001840/

;)
She's looking good. Will she be a big part of the new show or just a small side character like the hot doctor in SG1? (Janet Fraiser)

[LadyVader]

Wow. Black Canary is gonna be on Stargate. Thank God for Vancouver based actors. :)

[TheCorpulent1]

Kind of sad that, in casting younger, Stargate: Universe gets Smallville's cast-offs, though. Being on Smallville is an automatic strike against actors in my book at this point.

[Kahoot]

Lois and Green Arrow are still okay in my books.

[TheCorpulent1]

Lois is super-hot and I saw her on SG-1 first, so she's okay in my book. Green Arrow did okay in that Aquaman pilot, but he still makes me a bit uneasy.

[Kahoot]

I don't remember Lois in SG1. I'm sure I've talked about this in the Smallville thread over at CS but do you have any pics?

[Superfreak]

I don't remember Lois in SG1. I'm sure I've talked about this in the Smallville thread over at CS but do you have any pics?

she was Teal'cs hussie when he tried to move into an apartment in the real world... they did yoga together and stuff. That was the same episode Teal'c threw a parcel like 30 blocks to hit a purse snatcher in the head and knock him out

[carrrnuttt]

she was Teal'cs hussie when he tried to move into an apartment in the real world... they did yoga together and stuff. That was the same episode Teal'c threw a parcel like 30 blocks to hit a purse snatcher in the head and knock him out

http://img151.imageshack.us/img151/1120/stargate003.jpg

[carrrnuttt]

Even better:

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She must have a thing for aliens. :hehe: