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Gold Samurai
04-21-2009, 09:46 AM
Kind of sad that, in casting younger, Stargate: Universe gets Smallville's cast-offs, though. Being on Smallville is an automatic strike against actors in my book at this point.

It's a Canada thing.

Lots of Stargate actors crossover to Smallville and some went to Battlestar Galactica. Teryl Rothery played a real estate agent in an early Smallville episode

It must be fun to be a Vancouver actor. You can potential be on a dozen shows in a week

(http://www.tv.com/teryl-rothery/person/2420/summary.html?tag=cast;cast;recurring_role;name;0)

Sam Fisher
05-13-2009, 05:51 PM
http://www.tvshowsondvd.com/news/Stargate-SG-1-Children-of-the-Gods-Final-Cut/11874

http://img21.imageshack.us/img21/5753/sgpilot.jpg

wiegeabo
05-13-2009, 06:08 PM
http://www.tvshowsondvd.com/news/Stargate-SG-1-Children-of-the-Gods-Final-Cut/11874

http://img21.imageshack.us/img21/5753/sgpilot.jpg

Stargate needs to start having nudity again. :p

Sam Fisher
05-13-2009, 06:11 PM
Stargate needs to start having nudity again. :pLol. That scene is actually supposed to be removed in this version.

wiegeabo
05-13-2009, 06:16 PM
Lol. That scene is actually supposed to be removed in this version.

...


But, imagine the number of people who kept watching Stargate to get some more of that. Especially from Amanda Tapping. Don't take away what little they have... :( ;)

The Squirrel
05-13-2009, 06:44 PM
http://www.tvshowsondvd.com/news/Stargate-SG-1-Children-of-the-Gods-Final-Cut/11874

http://img21.imageshack.us/img21/5753/sgpilot.jpg

Is this needed?

Sam Fisher
05-13-2009, 06:47 PM
Yeah...to make $$$:p

BlackLantern
05-14-2009, 05:08 PM
a bit of news...Deadline Hollywood Daily is reporting that MGM is in serious financial trouble....so if they go down...Stargate might go with it

Dr Lee
05-14-2009, 05:36 PM
So will Bond.

BlackLantern
05-14-2009, 05:39 PM
I think Sony would probably snatch the distribution rights up for Bond....EON Productions actually produces the current films...MGM was just distributing

Sam Fisher
05-14-2009, 07:37 PM
That's not good. Guess I better start buying the rest of the seasons:csad:

deathshead2
05-14-2009, 09:18 PM
a bit of news...Deadline Hollywood Daily is reporting that MGM is in serious financial trouble....so if they go down...Stargate might go with itThats a big name brand now, some company would buy that up quick if MGM starting selling.

Sam Fisher
05-18-2009, 08:14 PM
Interesting bit about the Stargate Atlantis Fan's Choice Blu Ray. The Digital Bits is saying both episodes will be extended.
http://www.digitalbits.com/#mytwocents

Was there a extended version of Rising before?

Sam Fisher
05-18-2009, 09:58 PM
Apperently the working title for the Atlantis movie is Stargate: Extinction.

http://www.gateworld.net/news/2009/05/producer-reveals-atlantis-movie-title-maybe/

TheCorpulent1
05-19-2009, 08:58 AM
Interesting. I wonder what that refers to. Maybe the Wraith finally dying out because of all the Earthlings' meddling. :)

Sam Fisher
05-28-2009, 05:01 AM
Anyone listen to Gateworld's podcast?

enterthemadness
05-28-2009, 11:04 AM
a bit of news...Deadline Hollywood Daily is reporting that MGM is in serious financial trouble....so if they go down...Stargate might go with it

That's old news to me. When Sony got 20% control of MGM (and so did other companies) you knew they were in debt.

rambosdad
05-30-2009, 12:13 PM
Hey if you love stargate and want to join a new community of fans plus have the added bonus of watching episodes online in your browser (and soon Stargate Universe, when the episodes are aired) then come take a look at

http://www.watchstargate.net

Sam Fisher
05-30-2009, 12:23 PM
^Is that offical? We can't post links to bootlegs..

Sam Fisher
06-06-2009, 04:16 PM
New trailer for Stargate Galactica.
http://www.scifi.com/universe/index.php?sub=sgu&clip=3

TheCorpulent1
06-06-2009, 04:22 PM
I always cringe when I hear terms like "sexier" and "grittier" in interviews about sequels or additions to franchises. But I don't think SGU is particularly aimed at me anyway, so it's cool.

Dark Helmet
06-06-2009, 06:01 PM
Ugh when has Stargate been about being sexy ?

wiegeabo
06-06-2009, 06:27 PM
Ugh when has Stargate been about being sexy ?

Naked Sam Replicator ;)

Alistair
06-07-2009, 10:25 AM
Heya,

That's a horrible Preview for SGU...it's turning me off, and fast. I did like the org. SG1 and Atlantis, but that...I dunno. =/


Ali

TheCorpulent1
06-09-2009, 09:18 AM
Ugh when has Stargate been about being sexy ?
There have been a lot of sexual overtones throughout the series. The pilot had nudity originally, many of the Goa'uld "gods" kept concubines, O'Neill spent a fair bit of the first season doing the Captain Kirk thing of banging random alien women, various actresses were cast in guest roles for sex appeal, etc.

Granted, Stargate did typically shy away from relationship storylines with major characters more often than not. Jack/Sam, John/Teyla, and Daniel/Vala were always only hinted at or shown in alternate realities. But we had McKay dealing with a couple relationships over the years. Nothing particularly hot and heavy, though. Maybe all SGU intends to do is stop shying away from those major character romances. That wouldn't be too bad, I guess.

BlackLantern
07-08-2009, 08:30 AM
so Im still a bit fuzzy on the concept...are they all stuck on a ship that has a gate on it??

Dr Lee
07-08-2009, 08:32 AM
they are...... but, for a reason i don't know yet..... they can't dial out and return home.

BlackLantern
07-08-2009, 08:55 AM
and how did they all get on this ship to start with?? Robert Carlyle and Lou Diamond Phillips better explain this to me

Dr Lee
07-08-2009, 09:21 AM
Getting to the ship is still a mystery... mostly.

All i know is that the cast are part of a research base looking into the 9th chevron. They're attacked by something/one (Not yet said who it is that attacks them) and for some reason their only escape is through the gate to where the 9th chevron goes to.

TheCorpulent1
07-08-2009, 09:45 AM
The ship is an automated Ancient ship, as far as I've heard, which is why they can't simply fly it home. Presumably, they can't dial Earth because the ship takes them too far away, but I'm just speculating on that part.

BlackLantern
07-08-2009, 09:46 AM
so how did they get on the ship in the first place?? did we find it and start poking around and pushing buttons and all that??

TheCorpulent1
07-08-2009, 09:49 AM
Probably. Isn't that what the people of Earth always do? The Atlantis Expedition got into all kinds of trouble by randomly messing with stuff.

BlackLantern
07-08-2009, 09:55 AM
There should be a rule...I would call it the Daniel Jackson Rule....if you haven't seen it before, no ****ing touching it

TheCorpulent1
07-08-2009, 09:56 AM
But that'd make for some boring "exploration."

BlackLantern
07-08-2009, 09:56 AM
you can poke it with a stick first....

TheCorpulent1
07-08-2009, 10:14 AM
They do. Only their "sticks" are Mensa members. But the tech out in the universe is so advanced compared to Earth's that they still keep f***ing things up with it.

BlackLantern
07-08-2009, 10:15 AM
hmm true...Id watch an action movie with Sheppard and Mitchell....have Sam be the "police captain"

The Squirrel
07-08-2009, 10:22 AM
I don't think the ship itself has a gate. It just takes them to planets that have them.

TheCorpulent1
07-08-2009, 10:29 AM
I'm wondering how they work out the timing. Does the ship just randomly land, sit there for a set time, and then take off again? I could see that being really overused as a plot device to force the SGU team to drop whatever they're doing and get back before the ship leaves them.

The Squirrel
07-08-2009, 10:39 AM
I think the ship will just stay in orbit, and they will have to beam down or use jumpers. (Unless the ship does have a gate, which thinking back to the first teaser, I think it does now). And I think we can count on people being left behind. At least in the first few episodes.

TheCorpulent1
07-08-2009, 10:42 AM
Well, yeah, but I meant after the cast stabilized. They always throw a few extra people in there to be redshirts in the premiere.

The Squirrel
07-08-2009, 10:45 AM
I'm sure they will work it out to eventually be enough time for one mission to be completed. A nice round 45 minutes. :hehe:

TheCorpulent1
07-08-2009, 10:47 AM
Stargate in real-time? That would be awkward.

The Squirrel
07-08-2009, 10:48 AM
Yeah it would. I was speaking figuratively.

TheCorpulent1
07-08-2009, 10:51 AM
It'd be funny if they made a show like that and called the team SG-24. :D

The Squirrel
07-08-2009, 10:52 AM
It'd be funny if they made a show like that and called the team SG-24. :D

"We've gone through the gate many times, but one day on this planet... was the worst day of our lives."

TheCorpulent1
07-08-2009, 11:05 AM
And by season 5: "We've gone through the gate many times and had many bad days, but this day blew all the others out of the water. This was really, seriously the worst day of our lives. Seriously."

enterthemadness
07-08-2009, 11:09 AM
And by season 5: "We've gone through the gate many times and had many bad days, but this day blew all the others out of the water. This was really, seriously the worst day of our lives. Seriously."

When does this come on?

And was Sheppherd played by the guy from Farscape? He looks like a good action hero.

TheCorpulent1
07-08-2009, 11:14 AM
SGU starts this fall, I think.

Sheppard was played by Joe Flanigan. Ben Browder, the guy from Farscape, played Cameron Mitchell on Stargate: SG-1.

Sam Fisher
07-08-2009, 07:31 PM
October I believe.

enterthemadness
07-08-2009, 10:03 PM
SGU starts this fall, I think.

Sheppard was played by Joe Flanigan. Ben Browder, the guy from Farscape, played Cameron Mitchell on Stargate: SG-1.

Both of them look like good believable action heroes.

Kirmit
07-10-2009, 10:22 AM
For anyone who is confused about SGU
The group get to the destiny (the ship) by use of the 9th chevron, which also requires an enormous amount of energy to be dialed, more than is stored in your standard gate. There is a gate on the destiny and will be used to allow the teams to explore planets and find supplies in order to survive on the ship. They can't go home because the ship is automated and they're too far away to dial earth, they'd need alot of extra power to do this, which I assume isn't available to them. There will be shuttles on the destiny but I'm not sure when they'd be used as I guess most travel will be via stargate. Oh yeah one thing I've missed, the people on the destiny weren't ment to be there, they're all at a facility that is researching the 9th chevron and the destiny myth, when it's attacked, they're supposed to dial earth but Dr.Rush sees this as his only chance to get to the destiny, so he dials it, trapping himself and everyone on the destiny.

Sam Fisher
07-21-2009, 08:38 AM
SGU now has a confirmed premiere date of October 2nd.

Baggers
07-21-2009, 02:44 PM
SG:U: Season 1 images: http://www.gateworld.net/gallery/index.php?cat=55 :)

Dr Lee
07-21-2009, 03:22 PM
SGU now has a confirmed premiere date of October 2nd.

Thats the day i'm off at a Sanctuary convention..... bugger.

Sawyer
07-21-2009, 03:43 PM
I have to say, I've never really been into Stargate before, but I'm interested in watching Stargate Universe when it begins. I just hope that I dont have to watch the previous two series to be able to understand this.

TheCorpulent1
07-21-2009, 03:45 PM
SG:U: Season 1 images: http://www.gateworld.net/gallery/index.php?cat=55 :)
Is it me, or does the Stargate look more glowy than the SG-1 or Atlantis gates?

BlackLantern
07-21-2009, 06:26 PM
Thats the day i'm off at a Sanctuary convention..... bugger.

that show has been on for 1 ****ing season....how in the name of RDA does it get a convention??

wiegeabo
07-21-2009, 06:36 PM
Because Amanda Tapping is in it. :p

I'll probably go to the Sanctuary panel at Con.

BlackLantern
07-21-2009, 06:40 PM
why is it the past 2 summers Ive gone to SD, like no one from the Hype went, now all of a sudden this summer, when Im not going there are like a ****load of people from the Hype going??

Sam Fisher
07-22-2009, 06:08 AM
Children of the Gods - Final Cut Review.
http://www.gateworld.net/news/2009/07/review-stargate-sg-1-children-of-the-gods-final-cut/

And Stargate comics!
http://www.gateworld.net/news/2009/07/dynamite-to-publish-stargate-comics/

Sam Fisher
07-22-2009, 06:17 AM
Here's some clips too.

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Kirmit
07-22-2009, 11:15 AM
I have to say, I've never really been into Stargate before, but I'm interested in watching Stargate Universe when it begins. I just hope that I dont have to watch the previous two series to be able to understand this.

Apparently it's going to be easy for newcomers to the franchise to understand SGU, with no previous knowledge needed.

BlackLantern
07-22-2009, 11:42 AM
Apparently it's going to be easy for newcomers to the franchise to understand SGU, with no previous knowledge needed.

what's the fun in that??

TheCorpulent1
07-22-2009, 04:18 PM
Higher ratings and more money for the people making it. Fun for them, I'm sure. ;)

The Caped Knight
07-22-2009, 09:01 PM
Apparently it's going to be easy for newcomers to the franchise to understand SGU, with no previous knowledge needed.

Well I guess I've got nothing to worry about I've been a Stargate fan from since SG-1 and I've followed this series ever since then . I've got both Stargate SG-1 & Atlantis on dvd as well as the original movie . I can't wait for Stargate Universe .

Dr Lee
07-23-2009, 05:03 AM
comic-con-booth-shows-off-destiny-new-stargate-universe-footage/ (http://www.gateworld.net/news/2009/07/comic-con-booth-shows-off-destiny-new-stargate-universe-footage/)

With the fact the Comic-Con panel hasn't happened yet, the link above contains three images and some text spoilers.....

Images do include our first look at the Destiny though.

Kirmit
07-23-2009, 08:19 AM
Well I guess I've got nothing to worry about I've been a Stargate fan from since SG-1 and I've followed this series ever since then . I've got both Stargate SG-1 & Atlantis on dvd as well as the original movie . I can't wait for Stargate Universe .

I'm exactly the same as you, though not that fond of Atlantis' later seasons.

Sam Fisher
07-23-2009, 07:58 PM
I've never liked Atlantis as much as SG1 honestly{even though I think Atlantis had better writing}.

Baggers
07-24-2009, 06:07 AM
SG:U full trailer: http://gateworld.net/video/newsandfeatures/1248429391.shtml

TheCorpulent1
07-24-2009, 08:54 AM
I've never liked Atlantis as much as SG1 honestly{even though I think Atlantis had better writing}.
I liked them both, but SG-1's middle seasons were better than anything Atlantis produced to me. Atlantis got pretty annoying with its stunt deaths, too.

Kahoot
07-24-2009, 09:48 AM
That trailer looks promising, and really dark. I like the new stargate more than the crap Atlantis one.

Baggers
07-24-2009, 10:07 AM
That trailer looks promising, and really dark. I like the new stargate more than the crap Atlantis one.

The trailer is epic!! been watching it non-stop for the last half an hour :)

Kahoot
07-24-2009, 10:12 AM
The trailer is epic!! been watching it non-stop for the last half an hour :)
I'm still a little uneasy about it. It almost looks like it's not the SG1/SGA universe but in a cool good way.

Alistair
07-24-2009, 10:16 AM
Heya,

It looks a little bit more "Action" oriented, but also more "Adult," so I guess this can be a good thing. I'm still pretty unsure about it, but I'll give it a chance now, tho.

Ali

Baggers
07-24-2009, 10:32 AM
I'm still a little uneasy about it. It almost looks like it's not the SG1/SGA universe but in a cool good way.

Yeah I know what you mean, I think it's:

1) The new "polished" CGI
2) The Camera: The way it's filmed, it's got that handheld/documentary in some of the scenes, reminds me of BSG...
3) The characther don't seem to be the heroic/selfless kind of people we are used to.
4) More arguements and in team conflict in this show. Something we not used to, we used to SG-1 or Atlantis Expedition having agruements with the IOA, Robert Kinsey, etc but not much if ever in team conflict. Which this show seems to have alot. To me it's like how Star Trek DS9 had most of the characthers at each others necks while the rest of the Trek shows didn't (even Bones' and Spock's agruements wasn't even close lol).

Kirmit
07-24-2009, 10:38 AM
I loved the trailer, seeing lots of good things, I still get a sense of good old stargate but on a much grander scale.

Happenstance
07-24-2009, 12:02 PM
Just finished watching the new version of Children of the Gods. I enjoyed it, thought the changes were beneficial and some of the new CGI looked great. Nice to have some of the dodgy lines taken out and some fixed to tie in with continuity.

The one thing I wasnt sure on though was Christopher Judge re-doing all his lines, it didnt sound right at times.

The Squirrel
07-24-2009, 02:48 PM
The new trailer is awesome! I am officially pumped for this.

Sawyer
07-24-2009, 03:09 PM
Yeah I know what you mean, I think it's:

1) The new "polished" CGI
2) The Camera: The way it's filmed, it's got that handheld/documentary in some of the scenes, reminds me of BSG...
3) The characther don't seem to be the heroic/selfless kind of people we are used to.
4) More arguements and in team conflict in this show. Something we not used to, we used to SG-1 or Atlantis Expedition having agruements with the IOA, Robert Kinsey, etc but not much if ever in team conflict. Which this show seems to have alot. To me it's like how Star Trek DS9 had most of the characthers at each others necks while the rest of the Trek shows didn't (even Bones' and Spock's agruements wasn't even close lol).

I think thats kind of the point. These characters are really supposed to be the wrong people in the wrong place, if I remember correctly. Not professionals.

BlackLantern
07-24-2009, 03:13 PM
I don't know a lot of selfless people, most people are a little self-centered

Baggers
07-24-2009, 03:28 PM
I think thats kind of the point. These characters are really supposed to be the wrong people in the wrong place, if I remember correctly. Not professionals.

Yeah I think your right, I think half way thru the trailer they say something like: "Theses are the wrong people!"

I don't know a lot of selfless people, most people are a little self-centered

Yup tell me about it :(

TheCorpulent1
07-24-2009, 03:40 PM
Yeah, that idea of the wrong people getting stuck on the ship rather than the highly skilled airmen and Marines we saw in earlier Stargate episodes sounds interesting. Hopefully we'll get fewer deus ex machinas in SGU. SG-1 and SGA came to rely on them way too much.

Baggers
07-24-2009, 03:56 PM
Yeah, that idea of the wrong people getting stuck on the ship rather than the highly skilled airmen and Marines we saw in earlier Stargate episodes sounds interesting. Hopefully we'll get fewer deus ex machinas in SGU. SG-1 and SGA came to rely on them way too much.

Yeah, which can be only a good thing as much as I like the idea of super smart Carter or McKay, the Deus ex machinas did start wearing alittle thin in some eps and later seasons of both SG-1/SGA, so be good to see how the other guys save the day at the 11th Hour :)

TheCorpulent1
07-24-2009, 03:59 PM
Yeah, it'll be novel, at the very least.

Does anyone know if Carlyle is a regular or if he's just guest-starring in the pilot, like Robert Patrick did in SGA?

Baggers
07-24-2009, 04:05 PM
Yeah, it'll be novel, at the very least.

Does anyone know if Carlyle is a regular or if he's just guest-starring in the pilot, like Robert Patrick did in SGA?

Well Wikipedia says: "...Rush is the only confirmed main character[12] who was not included in the initial casting character breakdowns.[17]"

It's Lou Diamond Phillips who is unclear: "...The cast status of Lou Diamond Phillips as a permanent or recurring SGU actor is unclear. Philips was named in a press release along with the confirmed main cast in February 2009.[21] He played the title role in a new stage musical in May 2009[30] and was a contestant in I'm a Celebrity…Get Me out of Here! in June 2009,[31] both shows taking place during the shooting period of SGU.[3]"

TheCorpulent1
07-24-2009, 04:10 PM
Hmm. Well, Carlyle's the main attraction for me in terms of cast, so if he's a regular, I feel a bit better about SGU.

Baggers
07-24-2009, 04:15 PM
Hmm. Well, Carlyle's the main attraction for me in terms of cast, so if he's a regular, I feel a bit better about SGU.

From the trailer I'm more interested in seeing more of "Eli Wallace" :)

Sawyer
07-24-2009, 11:56 PM
Well Wikipedia says: "...Rush is the only confirmed main character[12] who was not included in the initial casting character breakdowns.[17]"

It's Lou Diamond Phillips who is unclear: "...The cast status of Lou Diamond Phillips as a permanent or recurring SGU actor is unclear. Philips was named in a press release along with the confirmed main cast in February 2009.[21] He played the title role in a new stage musical in May 2009[30] and was a contestant in I'm a Celebrity…Get Me out of Here! in June 2009,[31] both shows taking place during the shooting period of SGU.[3]"

:facepalm

I thought you were respectable, Lou Diamond Phillips...

zanos
07-25-2009, 01:02 AM
It looks like Stargate's version of "Enterprise"

Sam Fisher
07-25-2009, 01:12 AM
Except it looks 100,000,000x better than Enterprise.

TheCorpulent1
07-25-2009, 09:52 AM
From the trailer I'm more interested in seeing more of "Eli Wallace" :)
Eh, he just seems like the stereotypical geek to me. He's our POV character, though, so I'm sure we'll see lots of him.
It looks like Stargate's version of "Enterprise"
Looks more like a Stargate version of Battlestar Galactica with a little bit of Aliens (in the pilot, at least) to me.

Sawyer
07-25-2009, 11:25 AM
Except it looks 100,000,000x better than Enterprise.

Hopefully...

BlackLantern
07-25-2009, 11:53 AM
screw you guys, I liked Enterprise....people actually argued and the ship wasn't perfect...and Bakula has a lifetime pass from me

Kirmit
07-25-2009, 12:15 PM
Apparently there's a different trailer at syfy.com. I say apparently because it's US restricted, so I can't view it :(.

TheCorpulent1
07-25-2009, 12:19 PM
Curses! Oh wait, I live in the US. :oldrazz:

... Sorry, that was obnoxious. :csad:

The Caped Knight
07-25-2009, 12:30 PM
Is it true that a Stargate video game is in the works ?

TheCorpulent1
07-25-2009, 12:35 PM
Apparently there's a different trailer at syfy.com. I say apparently because it's US restricted, so I can't view it :(.
It looked the same as the trailer posted earlier to me.

Man, Robert Carlyle's getting me excited for this. His character seems really interesting.

Happenstance
07-25-2009, 12:54 PM
Is it true that a Stargate video game is in the works ?

Well theres Stargate Worlds, the MMO which is being made. Unless another one has been announced at SDCC that I havent heard about yet.

TheCorpulent1
07-25-2009, 12:54 PM
I thought Stargate Worlds got canceled.

Happenstance
07-25-2009, 12:56 PM
Stargate SG1: The Alliance did, as far as I know Worlds is still going ahead:

http://www.stargateworldsgame.com/

I dont think i'll be getting it though, the videos I watched didnt give me the feel of Stargate much at all. I think i'll go with the Star Trek MMO instead.

Dr Lee
07-25-2009, 12:56 PM
as i understood it the company making it went bust.....

Why can't TPTB give the game to someone like activision to make?.... somoene who won't go bust trying to make it?

Happenstance
07-25-2009, 12:58 PM
as i understood it the company making it went bust.....

Yeah I think its moved onto another developer since then

TheCorpulent1
07-25-2009, 12:58 PM
Stargate SG1: The Alliance did, as far as I know Worlds is still going ahead:

http://www.stargateworldsgame.com/

I dont think i'll be getting it though, the videos I watched didnt give me the feel of Stargate much at all. I think i'll go with the Star Trek MMO instead.
Oh, right, The Alliance got canceled. I knew there was a Stargate game that got canceled.

Sam Fisher
07-25-2009, 06:46 PM
You can download the SGU trailer in HD off of itunes.

BlackLantern
07-25-2009, 07:17 PM
as i understood it the company making it went bust.....

Why can't TPTB give the game to someone like activision to make?.... somoene who won't go bust trying to make it?

probably no interest from any of the big companies, furthered by it being a licensed game...

Dr Lee
07-25-2009, 07:26 PM
probably no interest from any of the big companies, furthered by it being a licensed game...

It's a shame.... my brother and i believe Stargate could make a great Rainbow Six/GRAW type game

BlackLantern
07-25-2009, 07:29 PM
umm ok.....I don't see it, but whatever

TheCorpulent1
07-27-2009, 09:13 AM
I can see it easily. The protagonists of SG-1 and SGA are well-oiled military units. Throw some Goa'uld or Wraith in instead of terrorists and it'd be solid.

Dr Lee
07-27-2009, 09:19 AM
exactly....

BlackLantern
07-27-2009, 09:21 AM
well-oiled...heh

Happenstance
07-27-2009, 09:33 AM
Of course the best thing any Stargate unit has going for it is the badguys terrible aim :p

Gold Samurai
07-27-2009, 11:16 AM
New cast photo
http://img258.imageshack.us/img258/4738/1508260708.jpg

Nice, put the minorities on the outside so it's easier to off them ;)

I really don't see Ming Na or Lou Diamond Phillips lasting that long.

They'll probably go out with a literal bang(like Carson) to hit home that this series is "gritty"

TheCorpulent1
07-27-2009, 11:26 AM
Well, we know some people are dying. We got those teary-eyed lines about someone watching another person die in the trailer.

On an unrelated note, I kind of miss the real military uniforms. I understand they want the shows to look distinctive, but it seems odd that Air Force personnel would get special uniforms for the Universe mission. Although, I guess the oversight committee could be rearing its ugly head again there.

Gold Samurai
07-27-2009, 11:34 AM
Oh yeah, apparently someone dies early on to hit home the mess the crew is in.

BTW I don't think Stargate has ever played up the sex angle this heavily.

BlackLantern
07-27-2009, 11:35 AM
1 black dude....seriously....??

Baggers
07-27-2009, 11:37 AM
New cast photo
http://img258.imageshack.us/img258/4738/1508260708.jpg

Nice, put the minorities on the outside so it's easier to off them ;)

I really don't see Ming Na or Lou Diamond Phillips lasting that long.

They'll probably go out with a literal bang(like Carson) to hit home that this series is "gritty"

I love how Alaina Huffman has unziped her uniform down abit to show off some chest, very niceeee!! :up: ;)

TheCorpulent1
07-27-2009, 11:38 AM
Yeah, that's not exploitative at all. "Hey, how come you guys got undershirts?!" ;)
Oh yeah, apparently someone dies early on to hit home the mess the crew is in.

BTW I don't think Stargate has ever played up the sex angle this heavily.
Not that heavily (if the trailer's any indication), but it's cropped up from time to time. If they're dealing with ongoing relationships, though, I think it could be good for the series. Stargate tended to take the Captain Kirk approach to sex: one of the characters would have a romance for, like, that one episode or an ongoing relationship/attraction would just be back-burnered and never amount to much.

Happenstance
07-27-2009, 11:39 AM
I wonder if they will introduce a new alien for the show ala Teal'c/Teyla (then Ronon/Vala) or maybe that nerdy guy will be the closest we get

Baggers
07-27-2009, 11:41 AM
1 black dude....seriously....??

Just like Stargate Atlantis, just hope Jamil Walker Smith's characther: "Ronald Greer" lasts longer than Aiden Ford ;)

Gold Samurai
07-27-2009, 11:42 AM
^
Well we get a lesbian couple

1 black dude....seriously....??


Teal'c

Ford

and one black woman, Telya

Jason Momoa is Hawaiian

TheCorpulent1
07-27-2009, 11:43 AM
I wonder if they will introduce a new alien for the show ala Teal'c/Teyla (then Ronon/Vala) or maybe that nerdy guy will be the closest we get
I kind of hope they don't have a long-term alien member right from the start. If it becomes a standard thing, it sort of feels like the Earthlings are just taking in strays.

Baggers
07-27-2009, 11:45 AM
^
Well we get lesbian couple




Teal'c

Ford

and one black woman, Telya

Jason Momoa is Hawaiian

Stargate does seem to like only having one black man/woman on the team at one time don't they, also wierd how in SG-1/SGA both black people were aliens, what's up with Stargate!! lol

Kirmit
07-27-2009, 11:46 AM
I wonder if they will introduce a new alien for the show ala Teal'c/Teyla (then Ronon/Vala) or maybe that nerdy guy will be the closest we get

As TPTB have said the aliens in this show will be really alien, as in not humoid I'm guessing no

Gold Samurai
07-27-2009, 11:47 AM
It was just Stargate being predictable that's all :)

Happenstance
07-27-2009, 11:50 AM
So is it confirmed that they will be lost and unable to get back to Earth?

Baggers
07-27-2009, 11:51 AM
As TPTB have said the aliens in this show will be really alien, as in not humoid I'm guessing no

Maybe the SGU team willmake the non-humoid aliens they find there pets ;) lol...but seriously be good to see more non-humoid aliens and less human english speaking ones :)

Kirmit
07-27-2009, 11:53 AM
Maybe the SGU team willmake the non-humoid aliens they find there pets ;) lol...but seriously be good to see more non-humoid aliens and less human english speaking ones :)

Yeah it's one of the first things they decided on
They decided Aliens would be really alien and none of them would be English speaking

Making first contact all that more interesting IMO.

Baggers
07-27-2009, 11:54 AM
So is it confirmed that they will be lost and unable to get back to Earth?

Yup in Star Trek Voyager stylely :)

Gold Samurai
07-27-2009, 11:55 AM
So is it confirmed that they will be lost and unable to get back to Earth?

yes for awhile till they use the ancient device Daniel Jackson and Vala stumbled upon that transports themselves home and use another person as a vessel.

Baggers
07-27-2009, 11:55 AM
Yeah it's one of the first things they decided on
They decided Aliens would be really alien and none of them would be English speaking

Making first contact all that more interesting IMO.

Now I like the sound of that, it makes the series more interesting now :)

Happenstance
07-27-2009, 11:55 AM
Yup in Star Trek Voyager stylely :)

Its making me wonder then what the guest appearances from RDA etc are gonna be like then throughout the season. Will take away from the feeling of isolation if we cut back to Earth every now and again

Kirmit
07-27-2009, 11:59 AM
Its making me wonder then what the guest appearances from RDA etc are gonna be like then throughout the season. Will take away from the feeling of isolation if we cut back to Earth every now and again

I'm guessing RDA will be making appearances via the ancient body swapping communication device but I remember reading somewhere that, that device gets sabotaged at some point in the season, truly cutting them off

Baggers
07-27-2009, 12:01 PM
Its making me wonder then what the guest appearances from RDA etc are gonna be like then throughout the season. Will take away from the feeling of isolation if we cut back to Earth every now and again

Yeah I guess so but at the same time they gotta give the team alittle hope, without that they become like the crew of BSG (who are cool tho)...

Happenstance
07-27-2009, 12:03 PM
Well as long as they get back to more exploration in this series I should be happy, ive missed that from the end seasons of SG1 and even though SGA still did, it didnt really feel the same.

Kirmit
07-27-2009, 12:07 PM
What I love about the trailer is that it shows the different kinds of places they'll be visiting, in the trailer I saw a desert, an ice planet, a jungle, it makes a change from all the forests.

Baggers
07-27-2009, 12:08 PM
What I love about the trailer is that it shows the different kinds of places they'll be visiting, in the trailer I saw a desert, an ice planet, a jungle, it makes a change from all the forests.

Yes countless forests, with alittle village near the Stargate...

TheCorpulent1
07-27-2009, 12:08 PM
Yeah I guess so but at the same time they gotta give the team alittle hope, without that they become like the crew of BSG (who are cool tho)...
Well, I'd also like to think that the SGC wouldn't sit idly by while they've got people lost out in space. So cutting back to Earth allows us to see that attempts to find the SGU people are ongoing but not getting anywhere, adding to the feeling of isolation and desperation of the SGU people..

Happenstance
07-27-2009, 12:12 PM
The problem with cutting back to the SGC is gonna be when we dont see members of SG1 or other cast that we really should do. Its not exactly really annoying but frustrating when that kind of thing happens.

TheCorpulent1
07-27-2009, 12:17 PM
That is a bit annoying, but I can accept it as a natural consequence of limited budgets and conflicting schedules.

Besides, everyone knows Walter's all you really need to keep the SGC running smoothly. ;)

Happenstance
07-27-2009, 12:19 PM
I dont know how they ever managed on those rare days off he took when someone else was brought in. Like that guy who fancied Carter.

Kirmit
07-27-2009, 12:20 PM
That is a bit annoying, but I can accept it as a natural consequence of limited budgets and conflicting schedules.

Besides, everyone knows Walter's all you really need to keep the SGC running smoothly. ;)

Lol too true :woot:.

Baggers
07-27-2009, 12:21 PM
I dont know how they ever managed on those rare days off he took when someone else was brought in. Like that guy who fancied Carter.

You notice on his "days off" the SGC always got invaded or took over by an alien device, etc :p lol

TheCorpulent1
07-27-2009, 12:22 PM
Walter is the glue that holds the SGC together. :up:

Gold Samurai
07-27-2009, 12:25 PM
T
Besides, everyone knows Walter's all you really need to keep the SGC running smoothly. ;)

I'd like to see Walter encounter this
http://members.shaw.ca/ecto135back/Cannot%20find%20planet.htm

Maybe Carter should flush the Stargate addresses

Stargate Network Restart

BlackLantern
07-27-2009, 12:29 PM
Besides, everyone knows Walter's all you really need to keep the SGC running smoothly. ;)

true dat

Kirmit
07-27-2009, 12:33 PM
Don't know if anyone's seen this yet http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=WVkZbvlqrXo

Happenstance
07-27-2009, 12:36 PM
Maybe that'll be the new MALP

Baggers
07-27-2009, 12:42 PM
Maybe that'll be the new MALP

Yup:

“Kino”: "a piece of technology on board the Destiny. It is a sleek, softball-sized orb that floats throughout the ship, capturing a first-person perspective on crew conversations. (According to producer Joseph Mallozzi’s blog, the kino will also serve as the Destiny’s version of a M.A.L.P., being sent through the Stargate to check out a destination planet by remote.)"

TheCorpulent1
07-27-2009, 12:46 PM
Awesome, ball on a string! :D

Seriously, though, that's kind of cool. A piece of alien tech that could actually be useful without being a huge deus ex machina. Go figure.

BlackLantern
07-27-2009, 12:51 PM
any appearances by Mr. Woolsey in this series??

Happenstance
07-27-2009, 12:52 PM
any appearances by Mr. Woolsey in this series??

I actually hope not, as much as I like him id prefer to think of him still on Atlantis

TheCorpulent1
07-27-2009, 12:56 PM
But Atlantis is still on Earth, isn't it? Unless they re-relocated it to the Pegasus galaxy again.

BlackLantern
07-27-2009, 12:59 PM
floating off the bay near Frisco last I looked

Baggers
07-27-2009, 01:01 PM
Children of the Gods part 1 was just on Sky One, it's wierd from part 1 how much Teal'c looks and feels he would of became the series' famous henchman baddie to vs aganist SG-1 but by part 2 look how it changed and now look where we are :)

Also from these two screen shots looks like

http://gateworld.net/gallery/displayimage.php?album=738&pos=149

http://gateworld.net/gallery/displayimage.php?album=738&pos=148

Goa'uld or The Lucian Alliance attacks the Icarus Base

Happenstance
07-27-2009, 01:05 PM
But Atlantis is still on Earth, isn't it? Unless they re-relocated it to the Pegasus galaxy again.

Wasnt it mentioned though at the very end of Atlantis that they'll be heading back to Pegasus at some point? Something like Sheppard mentioning to Ronan and Teyla that they shouldnt worry, they'll get back there soon.

Kirmit
07-27-2009, 01:06 PM
Yup:

“Kino”: "a piece of technology on board the Destiny. It is a sleek, softball-sized orb that floats throughout the ship, capturing a first-person perspective on crew conversations. (According to producer Joseph Mallozzi’s blog, the kino will also serve as the Destiny’s version of a M.A.L.P., being sent through the Stargate to check out a destination planet by remote.)"

To add to that it's speculated offworld gates will have no DHD and the Kino will serve as a dhd, how that works though I have no idea and aliens on planets won't have a kino so they wouldn't be able to dial the gates :huh:.

Kirmit
07-27-2009, 01:09 PM
Children of the Gods part 1 was just on Sky One, it's wierd from part 1 how much Teal'c looks and feels he would of became the series' famous henchman baddie to vs aganist SG-1 but by part 2 look how it changed and now look where we are :)

Also from these two screen shots looks like

http://gateworld.net/gallery/displayimage.php?album=738&pos=149

http://gateworld.net/gallery/displayimage.php?album=738&pos=148

Goa'uld or The Lucian Alliance attacks the Icarus Base

Although apparently it's never actually revealed The people inside the base speculate it's the lucian alliance

Baggers
07-27-2009, 01:09 PM
Wasnt it mentioned though at the very end of Atlantis that they'll be heading back to Pegasus at some point? Something like Sheppard mentioning to Ronan and Teyla that they shouldnt worry, they'll get back there soon.

John: Well, how you feeling?
Ronon: Ready to get out of here.
John: Take your time, the city's pretty banged up. Even with the ZPMs we're not going anywhere for a while.
Ronon: And when they fix it, you really think they're going to let us take it back to Pegasus?
John: I'll make sure you get home.
Ronon: This is my home.

Enemy at the Gate

Happenstance
07-27-2009, 01:15 PM
Although apparently it's never actually revealed The people inside the base speculate it's the lucian alliance

I wonder why its not going to be safe to dial Earth then

Also thanks Baggers, I thought it was something like that

Kirmit
07-27-2009, 01:19 PM
I wonder why its not going to be safe to dial Earth then

Also thanks Baggers, I thought it was something like that

I thought they did have the choice to dial earth but Rush dials the destiny because he sees it as his last opportunity to get there, therefore trapping everyone with his own selfish motives

Happenstance
07-27-2009, 01:22 PM
I thought they did have the choice to dial earth but Rush dials the destiny because he sees it as his last opportunity to get there, therefore trapping everyone with his own selfish motives

I thought it might be something like that but its the line from the trailer where they say its not safe to dial Earth. If it is him just wanting to get to the Destiny then there must be something else happening for that line to make sense

Baggers
07-27-2009, 01:23 PM
I wonder why its not going to be safe to dial Earth then

Also thanks Baggers, I thought it was something like that

My pleasure :)

I thought they did have the choice to dial earth but Rush dials the destiny because he sees it as his last opportunity to get there, therefore trapping everyone with his own selfish motives

Yeah that's what I thought from watching the trailer too

Kirmit
07-27-2009, 01:25 PM
I thought it might be something like that but its the line from the trailer where they say its not safe to dial Earth. If it is him just wanting to get to the Destiny then there must be something else happening for that line to make sense

hmmm Maybe he convinces them it's not safe, therefore hiding his motives and making him look like hero, being all the more interesting when they find out the real reason

wiegeabo
07-27-2009, 01:46 PM
I just hope this happens...


http://i8.photobucket.com/albums/a11/wiegeabo/ComicCon/ExhibitFloor/IMG_1586.jpg

http://i8.photobucket.com/albums/a11/wiegeabo/ComicCon/ExhibitFloor/IMG_1589.jpg

:p :D

Kirmit
07-28-2009, 03:06 PM
Interesting article about SGU

http://www.cinemaspy.com/article.php?id=2855

Particularly interesting was this part
Brad Wright revealed to CinemaSpy that the third series in the 'Stargate' franchise, Stargate Universe, had an episodic budget fully $1M beyond what had been available when shooting Stargate Atlantis

TheCorpulent1
07-28-2009, 03:18 PM
Jesus. I hope they spent it building new sets. Their CGI has always been pretty top-notch, but they recycle locations a lot. Both SG-1 and SGA's main "set" was a jungle shot from different angles in different episodes.

wiegeabo
07-28-2009, 03:24 PM
Jesus. I hope they spent it building new sets. Their CGI has always been pretty top-notch, but they recycle locations a lot. Both SG-1 and SGA's main "set" was a jungle shot from different angles in different episodes.

They might have.

At the panel, Carlyle mentioned that their sets were some of the best he'd evenr seen. More like what you'd get in full theatrical movies than episodic television.

TheCorpulent1
07-28-2009, 03:25 PM
Their gate certainly looks better than Atlantis'.

Kirmit
07-28-2009, 03:34 PM
Their gate certainly looks better than Atlantis'.

I always found the Atlantis gate to be too pretty and for lack of better word, human.

TheCorpulent1
07-28-2009, 03:48 PM
I didn't like that it didn't spin. It's like a touch-tone Stargate. Lame.

Happenstance
07-28-2009, 04:31 PM
I doubt any gate will top the original for me, I dont like that they are looking more and more hightech. I like my gate made of naquadah thankyou very much!

Kahoot
07-28-2009, 04:37 PM
Aren't they all made of naquadah?

Dr Lee
07-28-2009, 05:03 PM
The Earth gate was.... dont think they ever said that the Atlantis one was any different or not.....

Sam Fisher
07-28-2009, 05:23 PM
I didn't like that it didn't spin. It's like a touch-tone Stargate. Lame.
"I'm the general, and I want it to spin. Now."
KtOMtO9G26k

Kirmit
07-29-2009, 04:49 AM
The Earth gate was.... dont think they ever said that the Atlantis one was any different or not.....

It was said in one episode the Atlantis gate was made of naquadah, I think it was 'The Lost Tribe'.

Happenstance
07-29-2009, 05:12 AM
Ah well what I meant anyway was that I prefered it older looking

Kirmit
07-29-2009, 07:28 AM
The Milkyway gates are my favourite but the destiny gate is giving it a run for its money.

TheCorpulent1
07-29-2009, 09:05 AM
"I'm the general, and I want it to spin. Now."
KtOMtO9G26k
Haha, I loved that. My favorite part is Hammond after Daniel's tirade about being proven right: "Well... we found a ring in the sand..."

wiegeabo
08-14-2009, 08:47 PM
Just saw a new promo. Looks like the new Stargate spins. (Or the lights spin, at least)

dsfjr1190
08-14-2009, 10:53 PM
Haha, I loved that. My favorite part is Hammond after Daniel's tirade about being proven right: "Well... we found a ring in the sand..."


LOL.

That's my favorite part, too.

Gold Samurai
08-16-2009, 12:19 PM
SGU offends people through casting call

So, light spoilers for the series and whatnot.
http://www.afterellen.com/blwe/08-14-09
http://www.afterellen.com/blog/sarahwarn/stargate-universe-responds-to-controversy


To sum up though, they are basically doing yet another gimmick episode:
:
:
It's a bodyswap episode involving the Ming Na character and a wheelchair bound guest character. The problem being that the episode seems to suggest that every handicapped person can't live a real life unless they become "normal" (can't have sex in a wheelchair after all) and that a lesbian is being "forced" to have sex with a man.


And in effect, they manage to offend both groups involved.

Dr Lee
08-16-2009, 01:43 PM
I notice you've posted those two links...... that site is the loudest of the whiners...

Simply.... TPTB badly worded an internal description of the character they wanted...... That's it.

Sam Fisher
08-16-2009, 08:15 PM
SGU offends people through casting call

So, light spoilers for the series and whatnot.
http://www.afterellen.com/blwe/08-14-09
http://www.afterellen.com/blog/sarahwarn/stargate-universe-responds-to-controversy


To sum up though, they are basically doing yet another gimmick episode:
:
:
It's a bodyswap episode involving the Ming Na character and a wheelchair bound guest character. The problem being that the episode seems to suggest that every handicapped person can't live a real life unless they become "normal" (can't have sex in a wheelchair after all) and that a lesbian is being "forced" to have sex with a man.


And in effect, they manage to offend both groups involved.
I'm disabled{though not in that sense} and I think it's silly, but I can't really judge the episode untill I've seen it. At the end of the day, it is only television.

Dr Lee
08-16-2009, 08:29 PM
I'm actually more worried how they'll handle the whole thing of her having no control over her body... then getting control of 'her' body.... then reverting back to no control.....

in the last few years my mobility has been heavily restricted, and i'm now forced to use a wheelchair for 99% of my trips out the house..... If someone told me they could give me my mobility back, but only for X amount of time.... i wouldn't take it.....Simply for the fact that the X amount of time with full mobility would haunt me for a very long time.... taunting me with what i want, but can't get.

That is what i hope TPTB address properly over anything else IMHO.

Also.... a lot of the louder complainers have been SG:A fans still pissed over it's de-throning in favour of SG:U.... or idiot bloggers just looking for a subject to ***** about...

Honest to God, i saw an article that questioned why the Quadriplegic must be played by a really thing woman..... Guess she'd never heard of Muscle atrophy then?

Baggers
08-17-2009, 05:30 AM
Shanks returns to SGU in 2010: http://www.gateworld.net/news/2009/08/shanks-returns-to-sgu-in-2010/ :)

Sam Fisher
08-17-2009, 05:57 AM
Great!

Dr Lee
08-17-2009, 04:29 PM
The big boss of Gateworld has posted the following link on the site...

Incase no one can work it out.... SPOILERS for Sabotage....
Linky (http://www.gateworld.net/news/2009/08/editorial-sex-lies-and-body-swapping-what-sci-fi-does-best/#login)

Last week saw a bit of controversy in the Stargate world, surrounding a character description for the upcoming Stargate Universe episode “Sabotage.” (Read all about it here, including the producers’ response issued right here on GateWorld.)

We’ve seen outcries all over the Web, ranging from “That’s an insensitive way of talking about disabled persons,” to “They’re indulging the cliched male fantasy of lesbians having sex with men,” to “It’s a violation of Camille’s body to have Dr. Perry use it that way,” to “That’s rape, so the story is abhorrent and the episode shouldn’t be made.”

Setting aside the many misreadings and misrepresentations of what the casting call actually said, I’d like to offer my own response to these criticisms. But first, a word must be said about what character breakdowns and casting sides are, what they’re for, and why it’s not fair for viewers to draw conclusions or pass judgment based on them.

At the end of the day, I want to suggest to you, these criticisms entirely miss the point of why science fiction depicts controversial, often disturbing things.

Breakdowns Are Not ‘Real’

By that I mean that they are not a part of the story being told. Unlike a production photo or a clip from a trailer, a character’s description in casting documents may finally bear little similarity to the character as she is depicted on screen. Script pages are also usually from early drafts, and can be rewritten. Or tweaked on set by the actors and director. Or filmed, then cut. (Television is a long, creative process involving contributions from hundreds of people.) It’s an early look at what might be, followed by months of refining by everyone involved. Only the dialogue that is written, interpreted, acted, edited, and aired is worth judging.

To the degree that a character breakdown does correspond to the final product, it is only a snapshot — a single brush stroke in a large fresco.

There is only one way to judge any episode of television: Watch it. The Internet age has brought us a world of pre-production criticism, which is just ridiculous considering the sort of medium that television is. It presumes that one can accurately see an artist’s finished product before it has begun, that one can peer at Michelangelo’s marble slab and comment on the anatomy of David.

Casting Documents Aren’t Meant for You

They are behind-the-scenes production documents, often not even written or vetted by the script’s author, often exaggerated to serve their one, single purpose in life: to give casting agents who look at a zillion of these things a sense of the sort of actors that the show’s producers would like to see audition.

Reading casting documents — and in many cases, even the “sides” that consist of pages from a working draft of the script — is a poor substitute for seeing the final product. Passing judgment on the writer’s decisions at this stage is a little like debating a movie you’ve never seen. You’ve read a bad review, you’ve heard people talk about the trailer, you’ve seen a late-night interview with one of the actors. All these things might help you learn a little more about the movie, but it doesn’t mean you’ve seen it.

Till then, you just aren’t qualified to criticize.

Depiction Does Not Mean Endorsement

Have we forgotten the value of the science fiction genre and dramatic story-telling as a whole? Good television asks hard questions, and sci-fi in particular is good about studying the human condition and engaging tough issues. That means showing characters doing some damned distasteful things. Stargate is no exception. The shows have explored important issues such as torture (“Abyss,” “The Serpent’s Venom”), slavery and coercion (much of the Jaffa storyline throughout SG-1, though episodes like “Cor-Ai” and “Threshold” spring to mind), degenerative disease (“The Shrine”), and religion (all of SG-1 Seasons Nine and Ten), to name just a few.

As a series that is more intentionally dramatic than action/adventure, Stargate Universe will be doing this sort of human exploration even more. Among the many sci-fi plot devices that enable this is the long-range communications device, which allows someone from Earth to occupy the body of a Destiny crew member while that person in turn occupies the body of the person back on Earth. What sort of moral dilemmas might that bring up?

In “Sabotage,” the Destiny crew will grapple with a twisted mess of issues about identity and sexuality. What do you do when you are stranded galaxies away from your loved ones, against your will, with the very real prospect that you will never see them again — only to wake up in someone else’s body back on Earth, able to see them and talk to them and touch them again? Or, what if you’ve been without the use of your limbs all your life, and now inhabit a body that is strong and agile?

Is it ethically permissible to pose as that person? (You might watch “Avalon, Part 2″ before you answer.) To kiss someone you love? To kiss someone that person loves? To have sex? Or, from the other side of the equation, if you fall in love with someone who is occupying the body of someone else, can you act on that? What if two lovers both find themselves in other people’s bodies? What if you don’t know that it is temporary? If your lover is transplanted to a robotic body? Is cloned?

These are interesting science fiction questions, which force us to re-examine where we think the boundaries of identity and love are drawn. Yet they are exactly what those who object to this body-swapping episode are taking issue with. It’s not right for Eleanor Perry to do what she does with Camille’s body — even moreso because the two women have different sexual orientations. It’s not right for Nicholas Rush to sleep with her while she is in someone else’s body (gay or straight).

All very right. That’s exactly the point! The episode presents dilemmas, shows characters making choices, and then — we can hope — facing the consequences of those choices. If every character on television acted wise and upright all the time, those stories would have no conflict … and no reason to watch.

The mere depiction of these things doesn’t make the episode bad, or offensive, or poorly written. The writers are attempting to pose difficult moral situations and ask hard questions, and show us more about these characters by how they respond — then, by how others respond to their choices. Perhaps Dr. Perry is selfish and ultimately abusive of the gift she has been given; perhaps Rush is one step removed from a rapist, and an incident like this could permanently color his already tense relationship with Camille. Don’t assume that these things are going to be glorified simply because they are depicted.

Don’t Pretend All Questions Have Easy Answers

Science fiction is at its best not when it is merely depicting distasteful things, but when it is asking hard questions. Questions that don’t have an obvious “right” answer on moral grounds. If your long-lost love knocked on your door wearing someone else’s face, how would you respond to them? If you have been immobile all your life and had the chance to take over someone’s body, would you do it? If it was temporary, what would you do with that body?

What if it was the mind of your spouse, and the person whose body she occupies has given consent? What would you do?

If you fell in love with someone but had no way of interacting with them except through another person’s body, how much is permissible? (Star Trek: The Next Generation’s “The Host,” in which Riker played host to a Trill symbiant in love with Beverly Crusher)

If you had to choose between the survival of two different species, what would you do? (SG-1’s “Scorched Earth”)

If you had the power to protect your world at the cost of a few civil liberties, or at the expense of an uncooperative enemy, would you force your will on them? (“Absolute Power”)

If you transform your enemy into a human like yourself and change his life forever, what are your responsibilities toward him? (Atlantis’s “Michael”)

If the only way to correct your mistakes and save an innocent life is to let yourself be eaten by an alien monster? (“Miller’s Crossing”)

What would you do if you learned after the fact that a co-worker had raped you — but you have no memory or personal experience of it because your consciousness was in another galaxy at the time? … And it was entirely consensual with the person occupying your body, so from his point of view it wasn’t a rape at all? … And you’re a trillion miles from Earth with no ship-bound legal system to resort to?

Would you hate him?

Would you refuse to work with him?

Would you kill him?

My point is simple: Good science fiction puts its characters in frightful situations, with ethical dilemmas that make us think, “What would I do in that situation?” They make us talk with one another, learn something about one another, and learn something about ourselves. It’s why I love sci-fi.

Stargate Universe and shows like it put characters in difficult and at times ethically ambiguous circumstances. This shows us what those men and women are made of — and, in how we judge their actions, what we are made of, as well.

Baggers
08-21-2009, 06:58 AM
Stargate Universe U.K. premiere is October 6: http://www.gateworld.net/news/2009/08/stargate-universe-u-k-premiere-is-october-6/

Spy photos, video from the set of SGU’s ‘Human’: http://www.gateworld.net/news/2009/08/spy-photos-video-from-the-set-of-sgus-human/

Baggers
08-24-2009, 11:14 AM
http://i76.photobucket.com/albums/j30/baggers911/poster_scott.jpg

http://www.gateworld.net/gallery/displayimage.php?pos=-272918

Dark Helmet
08-24-2009, 04:17 PM
The pilot is done according to one of the cast member's twitter. It won't be long now for a leak

Dr Lee
08-24-2009, 04:20 PM
Hope not.....

Dr Lee
08-26-2009, 03:29 PM
Double ost i know, but it's been a while

This is the Synopsis on the Gemini Awards site fopr the Five nominations they have received

Colonel Samantha Carter mounts a rescue mission to retrieve the missing team. There is mixed reaction to the appointment of I.O.A. representative Richard Wollsey as her replacement. Dr. McKay will face some exceedingly difficult personal challenges while Teyla learns to integrate motherhood with her role as warrior. Ronan's past will again return to threaten him, Dr. Jennifer Keller will find help from a most unlikely source. A provisional relationship with the Wraith takes a shocking turn and new adversaries will rest everyone's courage and resolve.

No mention of Sheppard at all..... and i hear he's been omitted from the Season five boxset Synopsis as well...

TheCorpulent1
08-27-2009, 09:02 PM
I don't understand; what does that mean? Shepard's obviously still in the show for season 5. :huh:

Dr Lee
08-28-2009, 04:25 AM
He is.. but the actor made a few comments about how he felt about SG:A being killed off... and now his character is removed form the boxset blurb.... which i now find out is almost word for word the same as the blurb i posted above.....

BlackLantern
08-28-2009, 07:02 AM
he's still in the show though...so what's the problem?

Dr Lee
08-28-2009, 07:06 AM
Technically, none of them are... Show's canned.. Movie is also canned... so why leave just his name out....

Confusing as hell to me.... and i don't like being confused....

Sam Fisher
08-28-2009, 08:09 AM
Since when is the movie canned?:huh:

BlackLantern
08-28-2009, 08:12 AM
Since when is the movie canned?:huh:

there's just been ZERO news about it....rumors of another SG-1 movie on the way sometime next year though

Amanda Tapping has a HAWT photo on her IMDB page though

Dr Lee
08-28-2009, 08:45 AM
Back in JAN I attended an Atlantis Convention.... where Kavan Smith (Mjr Lorne) mentioned that there was no money available to make the movie... and there have been other reports about the Atlantis movie not going ahead any time soon...

Baggers
08-28-2009, 09:14 AM
Technically, none of them are... Show's canned.. Movie is also canned... so why leave just his name out....

Confusing as hell to me.... and i don't like being confused....

Back in JAN I attended an Atlantis Convention.... where Kavan Smith (Mjr Lorne) mentioned that there was no money available to make the movie... and there have been other reports about the Atlantis movie not going ahead any time soon...

:(

there's just been ZERO news about it....rumors of another SG-1 movie on the way sometime next year though

Amanda Tapping has a HAWT photo on her IMDB page though

Had to check, and your damm right, what a photo ;) lol

The Caped Knight
08-28-2009, 09:24 AM
Shanks returns to SGU in 2010: http://www.gateworld.net/news/2009/08/shanks-returns-to-sgu-in-2010/ :)

Awesome .

GhostPoet
08-28-2009, 02:08 PM
SGU offends people through casting call

So, light spoilers for the series and whatnot.
http://www.afterellen.com/blwe/08-14-09
http://www.afterellen.com/blog/sarahwarn/stargate-universe-responds-to-controversy


To sum up though, they are basically doing yet another gimmick episode:
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It's a bodyswap episode involving the Ming Na character and a wheelchair bound guest character. The problem being that the episode seems to suggest that every handicapped person can't live a real life unless they become "normal" (can't have sex in a wheelchair after all) and that a lesbian is being "forced" to have sex with a man.


And in effect, they manage to offend both groups involved.

LOL! People are stupid.

Baggers
08-28-2009, 06:52 PM
Stargate Universe theatrical trailer debuts this weekend: http://www.gateworld.net/news/2009/08/stargate-universe-theatrical-trailer-debuts-this-weekend/

Dr Lee
08-28-2009, 06:56 PM
only in US theatres though... irritatingly.....

Hope it comes online ASAP

Baggers
08-28-2009, 07:05 PM
only in US theatres though... irritatingly.....

Hope it comes online ASAP

Yeah I hope so too, be cool if it was in UK theatres also that be a nice suprise :)

TheCorpulent1
08-28-2009, 07:18 PM
Wait, so it's a trailer for the show that'll be shown in theaters before movies?

Baggers
08-28-2009, 07:23 PM
Wait, so it's a trailer for the show that'll be shown in theaters before movies?

Yup :) it's kind of how I saw this trailer for LOST: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=wfiMWvCqNZU&feature=related in UK cinemas way back when LOST first came out

Baggers
09-04-2009, 06:31 AM
SGU theatrical trailer!: http://www.gateworld.net/video/newsandfeatures/1251828980.shtml

Universe season finale is ‘Incursion’: http://www.gateworld.net/news/2009/09/universe-season-finale-is-incursion/

Shanks: Give SGU a chance: http://www.gateworld.net/news/2009/09/shanks-give-sgu-a-chance/

TheCorpulent1
09-04-2009, 10:13 AM
I can't decide whether Shanks being so vocal about the new show is him reaching out to the fanbase or the studio getting antsy about how split the fanbase is and getting a familiar face to promote SGU.

Either way, I was gonna watch it anyway. The premise sounded really crappy, but it seems to have improved every step of the way until the trailers and such we've got now actually look pretty intereseting. I like that it's dark and arc-driven too, although I hope it retains some sense of humor beyond the POV geek dude's geeky comments. Those are a bit too easy to really be funny.

Dr Lee
09-04-2009, 10:25 AM
He was at a convention recently..... so he probably got a dose fo the negative attitude towards SG:U from there....

Looks like the screeners for SG:U have been sent out... containing the entire 'Air' trilogy...

A leak of the première will probably happen soon, if it happens at all...

TheCorpulent1
09-04-2009, 10:27 AM
I hope Sci Fi releases new episodes on Hulu the day after they air. I'm sick of this "8-day delay" nonsense that USA's been doing with some of its shows on Hulu.

The Squirrel
09-04-2009, 10:32 AM
I hope Sci Fi releases new episodes on Hulu the day after they air. I'm sick of this "8-day delay" nonsense that USA's been doing with some of its shows on Hulu.

Yes. :cmad:

GhostPoet
09-04-2009, 01:51 PM
I don't like Hulu...mainly because I don't like watching stuff on my computer. sigh

TheCorpulent1
09-04-2009, 01:55 PM
My computer's hooked up to my TV, so it's pretty much the same for me. The 480p max doesn't even bother me, since I tend to watch TV from my bed, which is far enough away that I wouldn't be able to make out every pore on people's faces in HD anyway.

carrrnuttt
09-04-2009, 02:06 PM
I hope Sci Fi releases new episodes on Hulu the day after they air. I'm sick of this "8-day delay" nonsense that USA's been doing with some of its shows on Hulu.

I don't like Hulu...mainly because I don't like watching stuff on my computer. sigh

I follow TNT's "Leverage" on Netflix's online streaming service through my Xbox Live account. It's also presented commercial-free, and in HD.

The show comes out on Tuesdays on TV, and it's always on Netflix by Thursday morning of the same week.

I just wish more shows would follow this format. :up:

PS: If you have an Xbox networked to a PC, you can get the PlayOn media server that allows you to watch YouTube, Hulu, and a host of other video sites, on your TV through your Xbox. There's all kinds of plug-ins for it, and more are being built (or you can build your own): http://www.playonplugins.com/index.php/board,2.0.html

TheCorpulent1
09-04-2009, 02:15 PM
I just watched all of Leverage on my 360 this past week. Great show.

wiegeabo
09-04-2009, 03:07 PM
I don't like Hulu...mainly because I don't like watching stuff on my computer. sigh

Heh. I watch most of my tv on my phone at work. :p

TheCorpulent1
09-04-2009, 03:37 PM
I do that sometimes as well. Although I watch them on my iPod.

wiegeabo
09-04-2009, 03:40 PM
I did that too before the iPhone. Still do if something won't copy to my phone.

TheCorpulent1
09-04-2009, 03:49 PM
I don't have an iPhone, I have an iPod Touch. The only thing that sucks is that the battery's wearing down, so I can only watch like 3 hourlongs or a handful of half-hour shows before it dies. :csad:

wiegeabo
09-04-2009, 04:00 PM
Have you tried resetting the battery?

Basically, drain it until empty. (And don't be fooled. Touches and phones go out before they completely drain, so you'll have to keep turning it back on until it stops coming back.) Then let it sit empty for a few hours. Then charge it back up to full, but don't touch it. And leave it plugged in and at full charge for a few hours before using it.

With Apple products, this sometimes can reset the battery to (near) original charge conditions. It might get you some more, or nothing. Depends how far gone the battery is. I used to add about an hour onto my Macbook's battery when I did that each month. Now I'm lucky to get anything extra.

TheCorpulent1
09-04-2009, 04:02 PM
Never heard of that. I'll have to try it this weekend.

dsfjr1190
09-08-2009, 10:58 PM
Two reviews of SGU:

http://io9.com/5354900/weve-seen-the...ee-take-on-sgu

http://www.mediapundit.net/2009/09/s...th-seeing.html (http://www.mediapundit.net/2009/09/stargate-universe-is-a-promising-show-worth-seeing.html)

carrrnuttt
09-09-2009, 12:07 AM
Two reviews of SGU:

http://io9.com/5354900/weve-seen-the...ee-take-on-sgu

http://www.mediapundit.net/2009/09/s...th-seeing.html (http://www.mediapundit.net/2009/09/stargate-universe-is-a-promising-show-worth-seeing.html)

Nice. Makes me feel better about the show.

Sam Fisher
09-09-2009, 09:58 PM
Have you tried resetting the battery?

Basically, drain it until empty. (And don't be fooled. Touches and phones go out before they completely drain, so you'll have to keep turning it back on until it stops coming back.) Then let it sit empty for a few hours. Then charge it back up to full, but don't touch it. And leave it plugged in and at full charge for a few hours before using it.

With Apple products, this sometimes can reset the battery to (near) original charge conditions. It might get you some more, or nothing. Depends how far gone the battery is. I used to add about an hour onto my Macbook's battery when I did that each month. Now I'm lucky to get anything extra.
That's some good advice. This should work with the Classic too, shouldn't it?

wiegeabo
09-09-2009, 10:01 PM
That's some good advice. This should work with the Classic too, shouldn't it?

My experience is that it works for pretty much every Apple product. Even their support pages say to do so (it's where I learned do it for the laptop).

Baggers
09-28-2009, 06:13 AM
Sky One adverts for Stargate Universe (there is a Nicholas Rush one but can't seem to find it on Youtube atm):

Eli Wallace:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=nuSTHJQha1k

Tamara Johansen:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=SDB4LRBOj4s&feature=related

Baggers
09-28-2009, 06:15 AM
The above vids don't seem to be working....

Eli Wallace:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=nuSTHJQha1k

Tamara Johansen:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=SDB4LRBOj4s&feature=related

BlackLantern
09-28-2009, 07:03 AM
Ive been steering clear of any info but the commercials on TV....id like to go into this with as unbiased a view as possible

Sam Fisher
09-28-2009, 08:35 PM
http://www.gateworld.net/news/2009/09/two-dvd-sets-for-sgu-season-one/

I hate when they do this:facepalm:

Kahoot
09-29-2009, 06:51 AM
I won't be getting it anyway coz I'd need to get all of SG1 and SGA which is too much to buy, but I really really hate when they do that.

And then when they make the 2nd set comes out they make a full boxset for a little cheeper too so basically give the finger to the fans who got Volume one. They might not do that here but they did that with Lost, but I never fell for it.

BlackLantern
09-29-2009, 07:12 AM
http://www.gateworld.net/news/2009/09/two-dvd-sets-for-sgu-season-one/

I hate when they do this:facepalm:

you can choose not to buy it

Sam Fisher
09-29-2009, 07:54 AM
I won't be getting it anyway coz I'd need to get all of SG1 and SGA which is too much to buy, but I really really hate when they do that.

And then when they make the 2nd set comes out they make a full boxset for a little cheeper too so basically give the finger to the fans who got Volume one. They might not do that here but they did that with Lost, but I never fell for it.
They did it with Lost? Are you in the UK?

Baggers
09-29-2009, 08:32 AM
I won't be getting it anyway coz I'd need to get all of SG1 and SGA which is too much to buy, but I really really hate when they do that.

And then when they make the 2nd set comes out they make a full boxset for a little cheeper too so basically give the finger to the fans who got Volume one. They might not do that here but they did that with Lost, but I never fell for it.

They did it with Lost? Are you in the UK?

I'm from the UK and I hate it when they do that, they done it with Lost, Supernatural, A Town called Eureka, the later seasons of SGA, Heroes, it's like any new show coming out on dvd over here in UK comes out in part 1 and 2 before the full boxset comes out :( sadly last Christmas my mom fell for that trick and only got me Supernatural season 2 part 1:( wasn't impressed dammm HMV lol

TheCorpulent1
09-29-2009, 10:52 AM
The only show I remember them doing 2 DVD sets per season for is Battlestar Galactica. It makes sense that they'd do it for SGU. They seem to really be chasing the BSG crowd along with the usual Stargate fans with SGU, judging from the tone and premise.

That said, I'm not a fan of the 2 DVD sets either. But I don't usually buy DVD sets anyway, so it doesn't really matter that much to me.

Dr Lee
09-29-2009, 03:27 PM
Just seen a report that hints that RDA (O'Neill) may be appearing more than we thought

Kahoot
09-29-2009, 04:00 PM
They did it with Lost? Are you in the UK?
Yeah I am.
I'm from the UK and I hate it when they do that, they done it with Lost, Supernatural, A Town called Eureka, the later seasons of SGA, Heroes, it's like any new show coming out on dvd over here in UK comes out in part 1 and 2 before the full boxset comes out :( sadly last Christmas my mom fell for that trick and only got me Supernatural season 2 part 1:( wasn't impressed dammm HMV lol
They did that with Heroes? That one I didn't even know about.

Baggers
09-30-2009, 08:06 AM
Yeah I am.

They did that with Heroes? That one I didn't even know about.

Yeah :(

sshuttari
10-02-2009, 02:07 PM
Anyone excited for this? I can't wait to watch it tonight.

The new direction there going with being lost in space (Technically Atlantis did that as well) seems fantastic. Also the show will be a more darker then the previous shows we have had.

Can't wait!! :cool:

TheCorpulent1
10-02-2009, 02:09 PM
I'll watch it. I'm not hugely excited for it or anything, but it should be at least as entertaining as Atlantis and SG-1 were in their last few years. It'll feel good to have a Stargate series back on, too. They've been a fixture of the TV landscape for so long that it feels wrong without one.

GhostPoet
10-02-2009, 02:12 PM
I started out hating the idea...then gradually I started to like the idea...and now that it's finally time....i'm actually REALLY excited. I even made it my wallpaper at work! (I always change my wallpaper...everyone always comes by to see what I have next. haha)

I think it'll be a great addition to the Stargate universe. (no puns intended)

Happenstance
10-02-2009, 02:49 PM
I'll be watching it next Tuesday as im in the UK so im gonna have to stay clear of this thread to avoid any spoilers.

Have to admit im more excited now than I was originally, I just hope that they dont go too far with their Battlestar emulation weve heard so much about. At its core this show still needs to be Stargate.

wiegeabo
10-02-2009, 03:16 PM
I forgot all about it.

SGU tonight, and then an SGU/Sanctuary double team starting next week.

TheCorpulent1
10-02-2009, 04:07 PM
Sancutary's first episode sucked, so I never watched it again. Has it gotten better?

wiegeabo
10-02-2009, 04:10 PM
Sanctuary is great. And after seeing what's coming at their Con panel, this season promises to be kick ass.

Did you watch the webisode or episode?

TheCorpulent1
10-02-2009, 04:12 PM
The webisode. I heard about it long before it was picked up and was like, "Amanda Tapping, a bunch of other Stargate people, and crazy supernatural s***... SCORE!" But I watched the first webisode and was struggling to stay awake through it. And then Amanda Tapping started pretending to be British or something and I just couldn't deal with it anymore.

carrrnuttt
10-02-2009, 05:03 PM
Sancutary's first episode sucked, so I never watched it again. Has it gotten better?

It got better through the season, in my opinion.

wiegeabo
10-02-2009, 05:09 PM
It got better through the season, in my opinion.

Agreed.

This first few episodes are remakes of the webisodes with the same cast, a real budget, and tweaked scripts. And then they were able to explore new ground and come up with some interesting stuff.

Baggers
10-02-2009, 05:26 PM
How long you guys in US got left to wait till the SGU premiere??