Stargate SG-1/Atlantis/Universe

[carrrnuttt]

maybe I was a little short there, but sometimes things bother me. It's not so much the makeup, as the choice of makeup. TJ doesn't look like a soldier to me... Chloe certainly doesn't look like a senator's daughter, or a senator's aid to me. It's the creative choice, rather than the skill of those at work.

Like the senator of California's house. This doesn't look like the house of someone who just spent billions on anything. The peices just don't fit.

Huh? What?

First off, I was in the Air Force, and I trained and served alongside men and women from every major US military department, and I don't know how a soldier's supposed to "look." Also, TJ is an officer...in the Air Force. This means that not only does she have a minimum of a Bachelor's Degree (requirement to go to officer school), the fact that she's a female Air Force officer makes her one of the farthest removed from being a "soldier." Oh, and call her "airman," by the way. Not only that, but she's also a medical officer.

Second, how the flying hell is a senator's daughter supposed to "look?" Care to define that for us mere plebeians? Below are two pictures of the better-known daughters of senators (one's a former daughter of a senator, since her mom is the Sec. of State now). Care to tell us how Chloe Armstrong doesn't fit into their "mold?"

http://deanswift.files.wordpress.com/2009/03/megan_mccain11.jpg

http://evilbeetgossip.film.com/wp-content/uploads/2007/10/chelsea_clinton.jpg

Lastly, US senators, as of 2009, make $174,000.00 a year. A significant sum, yes, but hardly close to what a true billionaire is worth. I personally know people who earn about that much who live in a simple suburban home. When the Sen. said that "he" spent money, did you REALLY think he meant that he spent his own?

Jeebus, man. If you're going to nitpick, at least pick on something you actually KNOW something about. Even then, you're nitpicking how "realistic" things are in a show that requires massive suspension of disbelief. Just say you don't like the vibes of show, and walk away. Quit trying to "justify" your dislike with inane, not to mention highly inaccurate, rationality.

[TheCorpulent1]

Oddly enough, I think one of the colonels called someone "soldier" in the show. That made me cringe. As far as we've seen, the SGC contains only airmen and marines. :o

[GhostPoet]

Wow...someone hit a nerve...and an artery because I see blood gushing!

[Superfreak]

have we already resorted to the 'you don't agree, you leave' argument already? PATHETIC

TJ, between the makeup, the jewelry and the hair, doesn't look like any military person IMO. WTF does her education level have to do with anything? The house, did you look at the garden, or the total and utter lack of security around the house... ie. it was just some normal middle class house from canada, with dead flower garden, and that's what it screamed to me.

simply put, I'm gonna continue to be *****y, until the show has generated a level of confidence, where I don't have to worry about such things: Deal with it.


on the stones: Doctor useless still makes no sense to me. Telford makes sense, because he is supposed to be the leader, and therefor has some sort of preperation for whatever was on the other side of the 9 chevron address. She on the other hand was totally and utterly useless, and her 40s of screen time could have otherwise been used.


I was impressed with the use of montage however. It fit nicely into the meagre narrative they had for the episode. But the future episodes really need to have more 'story' in it.

[Dr Lee]

Doctor Useless?

[Superfreak]

Doctor Useless?

the woman that traded places with Chloe

[Dr Lee]

I saw that as a plot device to get Chloe back on Earth.... and to have someone go WTF when TJ drugged Telford....

My only problem with the LRC was that when Rush first used it... Dr Lee was sat at the controls with a stone on the pad while reading a magazine..... in a manner that said to me that he was waiting for them to get in touch..... seemed a bit strange to me.

[Superfreak]

I saw that as a plot device to get Chloe back on Earth.... and to have someone go WTF when TJ drugged Telford....

My only problem with the LRC was that when Rush first used it... Dr Lee was sat at the controls with a stone on the pad while reading a magazine..... in a manner that said to me that he was waiting for them to get in touch..... seemed a bit strange to me.

I agree, it's just poor form IMO. The plot device should be hidden, or integrated so it doesn't stand out. It shouldn't be some random wandering around, merely because they needed to get Chloe's brain home. It should be someone useful to the story, other than providing the opportunity for Chloe to go home... maybe she'll be explained later... but as for her use in the show, I wasn't really impressed

maybe they have multiple sets going, and they need someone with the gene always available just in case (ie. not only for the universe crew, but all the other sg endeavors as well). By the way, the stones still do require the gene right? As per my favorite Barber episode? So Chloe just randomly has it?

what I didn't like about the first use of the stones is what was Dr. Lee doing?

[Dr Lee]

it seemed as though he was just sat there waiting for someone to 'ring' in.... as though he was expecting it to happen

[Superfreak]

it seemed as though he was just sat there waiting for someone to 'ring' in.... as though he was expecting it to happen

no, I mean what was he doing on Destiny?

[Dr Lee]

Oh.... no idea.... if he wasn't expecting it then i would have thought he'd start wandering looking for someone.... but he didn't.... It's all very strange to me, hopefully it's something that'll be fixed later on in the show

[wiegeabo]

I may need to watch this episode again. But I thought the woman who traded places with Chloe was an IOA representative, because they always think they know better and have to stick their noses into everything. And if the military gets to have a presence on Destiny, then the IOA would want to as well.

Really, there was no reason to send a doctor or anything to Destiny. The Colonel would have told him about all the seriously injured (which was essentially just him), and they don't have any resources for them to use anyway.

[C. Lee]

it seemed as though he was just sat there waiting for someone to 'ring' in.... as though he was expecting it to happen

He probably was waiting to see if anyone dialed in through the stones. 80 some people went missing, they know a stargate was dialed and in use for about 8 minutes.....why not set one guy aside with one of the stones next to him in case someone used them.

[TheCorpulent1]

It seems like they have people take shifts waiting for "calls" by the stones at Stargate Command. Dr. Lee was sitting there doing nothing, apparently, until someone used the stones on Destiny. Chances are, since the SGC has managed to dial their gates out to pretty unbelievable distances for the past five years or so, they now rely on the stones for communication with teams that are way, way out in deep space relative to Earth. They're easily the most reliable and immediate form of communication for such vast distances, so why wouldn't the SGC be exploiting them and having people take shifts to sit by the stones in case someone calls in?
Really, there was no reason to send a doctor or anything to Destiny. The Colonel would have told him about all the seriously injured (which was essentially just him), and they don't have any resources for them to use anyway.
A full doctor would still have more knowledge than TJ, even without equipment. They might catch things she missed. Whether they'd actually be able to do anything about them with what's at hand on Destiny depends on what those things are.

[RetroNaz]

Sounds like a few of you aren't getting into the show quite as much as I am - which is a shame.

*shrugs*

[TheCorpulent1]

I'm enjoying it. I'm just a bit wary because, as familiar and comfortable as all the Stargate stuff feels, the creative team behind it can slide into stale, boring stories pretty easily.

[RetroNaz]

Quite honestly, I'm just thankful there is still SOME form of sci fi on tv that is thankfully part of the Stargate franchise.

But I can certainly see where some of you are coming from. Some of you though.

There are some within here that do seem to be scraping at the bottom of the barrel for things to complain about given it's only just started...but that's just my opinion.

[TheCorpulent1]

I agree. I try not to be too nitpicky anymore. It's fun now and then, especially if the show is terrible anyway, but you can basically pick even the best show apart on little things. SGU's doing all right so far to me. I hope they can keep this level of quality up.

[Sam Fisher]

Honestly I loved the third episode almost as much as the first two.

[RetroNaz]

I agree. I try not to be too nitpicky anymore. It's fun now and then, especially if the show is terrible anyway, but you can basically pick even the best show apart on little things. SGU's doing all right so far to me. I hope they can keep this level of quality up.

I hope so too Corp.

Is anyone keeping a tab on the ratings for this thing?

[TheCorpulent1]

This is the most recent ratings-related thing I could find at Gateworld. (http://www.gateworld.net/news/2009/10/universe-grows-audience-for-week-2/) They track ratings religiously over there.

[RetroNaz]

I'm liking what I'm reading about that. I wonder if it's helped by the fact that this show seems to be geared towards more of a general audience than the past series before it..?

I can certainly account for my fiance being a fan of this one, but having no interest what so ever in SG or SGA.

[TheCorpulent1]

They're solid ratings, but SG-1 did about the same in its earlier seasons on Sci Fi, I believe. From what I recall, SG-1 and Atlantis dipped down toward 1.1 or even under 1.0 when they were canceled and they did around 2.0 at best. So SGU's definitely looking healthy after 3 episodes at around 1.8.

[RetroNaz]

Totally unrelated > but I reeeeally wish Sarah Connor Chronicles was a ScyFy produced show :(

[Happenstance]

I hope over christmas the UK overtakes the US in airing new eps of SGU again like it used to, I hate having to avoid the thread while I wait for it to air here!

[Dr Lee]

it's only a few days difference.... but i know what you mean

[RetroNaz]

There are ways around that still...

[TheCorpulent1]

Does Hulu work outside of the US? That's how I watch it.

[Kahoot]

Doesn't work in the UK that's for sure... :(

Torrents are always good though.

[Superfreak]

I'm enjoying it. I'm just a bit wary because, as familiar and comfortable as all the Stargate stuff feels, the creative team behind it can slide into stale, boring stories pretty easily.

that's why I'm being hard on it really. I figure they've had oodles of years to get their formula right... so this show should be held to a higher standard.

[Kahoot]

that's why I'm being hard on it really. I figure they've had oodles of years to get their formula right... so this show should be held to a higher standard.
It's a new show in the same universe as the old ones. The formula isn't quite the same.

[TheCorpulent1]

But Stargate was never as sophisticated or inventive as some of the better sci fi shows, like BSG or Farscape. Even their best seasons don't hold a candle to those shows. So holding them to a higher standard just because they've been at it for a long time doesn't really make sense, since they never really met extremely high standards in the first place.

[Happenstance]

Doesn't work in the UK that's for sure... :(

Torrents are always good though.

Yeah but id rather not use torrents if I dont have to and for the sake of a few days im not gonna bother.

As for Stargate compared to other Sci-Fi, I dont think its the fact that it doesnt hold a candle to them (Id rate SG1 at its best higher than BSG or Farscape). I think its just a different type of Sci-Fi, we know its more of a sci-fi adventure show not a sci-fi drama like say BSG.

[TheCorpulent1]

Stargate's like Star Trek to me. It's been good, it's been bad, but more than anything else, it's familiar. I was pretty much indifferent to everyone on Voyager except the Doctor, but I still watched Voyager every week for years simply because it was "the Star Trek show" at that point. I feel comfortable just sitting down and killing an hour watching a show steeped in the familiar lore of the Star Trek universe. Similarly, I would've watched SGU regardless of its quality because it's "the Stargate show" right now. Thankfully, it's off to a pretty above-average start for the Stargate franchise as a whole. :up:

[wiegeabo]

I've learned to keep my expectations low.

If it turns out to be as good as SG1 and Atlantis, I'll have nothing serious to complain about. If it turns out to be better, then I get to be pleasantly surprised.

[Manic]

So, this new Stargate Universe show...

What's it about, exactly?

[Gilpesh]

So, this new Stargate Universe show...

What's it about, exactly?
Whole bunch of people with varying issues, end up on a broken and old ship that is nowhere near home. So... LOST + BSG + stargates = Stargate Universe.

[Dark Helmet]

Dudes & Chicks. A dude beats a puzzle in a game. Two dudes show up at his house to enlist him in a government run program. They want to unlock the 9th Chevron on the Stargate. The base where the thing is gets randomly attacked. At the last minute they unlock the 9th Chevron & go through. The dudes & chicks end up on a ship no wear near their galaxy. The ship is ****ed up. The main scientist dude obviously has a secret plan & there will be random sex scenes that do nothing for the story. A dude dies in the first two episodes. The dudes & chicks get regular contact with Earth via a Long Range Communication device. The dudes & chicks gets to go to random planets as well. Rinse & repeat the last two sentences until they find a way to get home. Expect random experiences from some of fan favorite Stargate guys

[Manic]

Whole bunch of people with varying issues, end up on a broken and old ship that is nowhere near home. So... LOST + BSG + stargates = Stargate Universe.
Dudes & Chicks. A dude beats a puzzle in a game. Two dudes show up at his house to enlist him in a government run program. They want to unlock the 9th Chevron on the Stargate. The base where the thing is gets randomly attacked. At the last minute they unlock the 9th Chevron & go through. The dudes & chicks end up on a ship no wear near their galaxy. The ship is ****ed up. The main scientist dude obviously has a secret plan & there will be random sex scenes that do nothing for the story. A dude dies in the first two episodes. The dudes & chicks get regular contact with Earth via a Long Range Communication device. The dudes & chicks gets to go to random planets as well. Rinse & repeat the last two sentences until they find a way to get home. Expect random experiences from some of fan favorite Stargate guys
So... they're lost in space, exploring new planets, are jacked up people in general, have gratuitous sex scenes, and (from what I've seen by watching only the first few minutes of what I assume was the first episode), one of the main characters is an everyman geek?

Um... wow. Is there a charismatic leader whose first name starts with the letter J, and do they hope that each new stargate will be the gate home?

[Baggers]

Whole bunch of people with varying issues, end up on a broken and old ship that is nowhere near home. So... LOST + BSG + stargates = Stargate Universe.

+ Star Trek Voyager

[Manic]

+ Star Trek Voyager
So there's only one worthwhile character on the entire show?

[Gilpesh]

and do they hope that each new stargate will be the gate home?
Nah. Each new stargate is a hope they can fix something wrong with the ship so that they could one day find a way home.

+ Star Trek Voyager
Never watched it. :o

[Manic]

Nah. Each new stargate is a hope they can fix something wrong with the ship so that they could one day find a way home.
So they just repeated the plot to the first season of Stargate Atlantis all over again?

[Gilpesh]

So they just repeated the plot to the first season of Stargate Atlantis all over again?
We'll see in a few episodes.

[Gilpesh]

Alright. This might sound horrible and completely deus ex machina... but I think the Destiny recharges by flying into/near a sun.

[TheCorpulent1]

So they just repeated the plot to the first season of Stargate Atlantis all over again?
It definitely sounds similar at first, but the tone is much different and there are a lot of small differences in the execution. Atlantis featured an entire expedition specifically created for exploring and exploiting the resources of Atlantis; Universe features a group of about 1/3rd military personnel who were only supposed to be guarding a base and 2/3rds utterly ill-prepared civilians and scientists. Atlantis had Rodney McKay, a.k.a. the male, arrogant Carter, to figure out and explain everything; Universe has Dr. Rush, who isn't quite as smart as those two and is somehow even more arrogant than McKay and shady to boot, and Eli, a dude who's only there because he figured out an equation embedded in an MMO that Stargate Command designed. Atlantis could still contact Earth for supplies or support, or one of the Asgard-enhanced Earth ships could fly out to the Pegasus galaxy in a few weeks; Universe's Destiny is so far away from Earth that literally the only means of contacting Earth is the basic communication afforded by the stones. The Atlantis team could abandon Atlantis and gate back home whenever they wanted, even though it would mean losing the resources Atlantis provides; the Universe team is almost literally chained to the ship because it's automated and only opens its Stargate to certain pre-programmed worlds for 12 hours at a time--they've already unintentionally abandoned two people who gated to another planet and didn't come back before the 12 hours were up.

So basically Universe has a premise that's similar to Atlantis' but much more precarious. The tone of the show is also a lot more harrowing and character-centric--because these people aren't prepared for anything they're encountering, either in terms of experience or supplies, they're a lot more stressed than the Atlantis Expedition people were and the show itself has a darker tone than the action-adventurey feel of Atlantis.

So far it's off to a pretty good start.

[wiegeabo]

Alright. This might sound horrible and completely deus ex machina... but I think the Destiny recharges by flying into/near a sun.

I wouldn't really mind that at all. They think Destiny is sending them to a series of planets for survival, but what it's actually doing is setting itself up for a recharge so it can continue its mission.

Except, why didn't Destiny just do that with any star and keep it's batteries charged for all these centuries? So I'm wondering if Destiny made it's first mistake. The unpredictable atmospheric forces could have tweaked the course ever so slightly too far. The smallest fraction of a degree off, multiplied by hundreds of millions of miles, equals missing a planet and hitting a star.

[C. Lee]

Alright. This might sound horrible and completely deus ex machina... but I think the Destiny recharges by flying into/near a sun.

Me too. I was wondering at first if the gas giant flythrough would somehow recharge the batteries....but now that it's headed for the star, that has to be it.

Also.......I'm surprised no one has punched a few of Dr. Rush's teeth out yet.

[wiegeabo]

I'm really starting to like the focus on the characters. They're even giving the 'no-names' some personality. I'm wondering if they'll keep them all as irregular regulars.

Also, loved Peter DeLuise's little cameo as Peter. ;) And I would never have thought of caffeine and nicotine withdrawal.

[C. Lee]

Who's to say the Destiny hasn't recharged a few times already on it's voyage. The arrival of 80+ people put a strain on it, and it's now recharging again.

[wiegeabo]

Who's to say the Destiny hasn't recharged a few times already on it's voyage. The arrival of 80+ people put a strain on it, and it's now recharging again.

True.

So my next question is why doesn't it stop frequently to do so and keep fully charged. Although, I suppose if it puts a significant strain on the ship, then it would do it as few times as possible. Which could lead to a whole new set of problems for the crew.

But I'm not sure I like the idea of them fixing the power problem so early on.

[Gilpesh]

Except, why didn't Destiny just do that with any star and keep it's batteries charged for all these centuries?
Maybe it does do it with just any star and this is the end of the centuries it went for without another run to charge, which it is now doing. And the systems they have automatically on to take care of the power, don't take into account any crew the ship has, especially as the guys haven't figured out a way to change any of the defaults.

So maybe after this charging run, Rush will have more luck working the computers as they will be at full power.

[Gilpesh]

So my next question is why doesn't it stop frequently to do so and keep fully charged.
It's still set on crewless probably. So the trips are only when necessary.

[wiegeabo]

I'm liking this idea more and more. That Destiny is actually a lot smarter than the crew. The crew thinks its on a runaway ship that's falling apart. Where actually Destiny thinks it's still on its mission, and knows what the crew, and it, needs to survive and keep going on. And the more the crew tries to 'fix' things or assume they know more about what's happening, the worse it gets for them.

[Gilpesh]

Well. I only think the only crew related thing it did for them, was getting to the sand planet so they would get more whatever whatever to fuel the life support.

But this trip to the sun is more just a routine recharging mission than a crew related thing. I think Rush will have to change some settings before the ship gets more user friendly.

[wiegeabo]

Well, Rush is the one that told the ship they needed something like lime to sequester the carbon dioxide. But now the ship's determined the most critical priority is recharging because, without power, there's no way the crew can survive, or the mission can continue.

[Gilpesh]

Then it looks like the major thing they all need to do by the end of the season is somehow tell the ship that the mission needs to be stopped.

[wiegeabo]

Yeah. Basically, stop getting in the ship's way, and just worry about doing what they need to do to buy themselves the time to convince it the mission's over. And, or course, hoping that all the damage hasn't 'permanently' locked the ship's computer on the mission.

Or...what if the ship is actually running from something? Not the whole million years, but maybe a few decades ago the show's new bigbad found it, Destiny fought back (or didn't) and escaped before suffering a crippling amount of much damage. Now the ship is running away, under the assumption the bigbad is still coming after it. Which would explain why the stops are only 12 hours long. It's afraid the bigbad will find it. (Could also have been the last command given to it by the ancient's a million years ago, and it just doesn't know it's been long enough and can stop running.)

[Manic]

Universe's Destiny is so far away from Earth that literally the only means of contacting Earth is the basic communication afforded by the stones.
You mean those wacky body-swapping stones Daniel and Vala used to jump into the Orii's galaxy? That's one bit of technology I didn't think they'd bother to use again.

[wiegeabo]

That's how they contact Earth. Stargate Command has created their own version of it though. And they have people at the SGC taking shifts with it because they never know when someone from Destiny will call in.

[Arbiter]

they girl they were spying on with the floating camera was hoooooot!!!!

that is all

[Arbiter]

they girl they were spying on with the floating camera was hoooooot!!!!

that is all

[RetroNaz]

Another strong episode.

Rush is losing it further and further with every episode.

[carrrnuttt]

they girl they were spying on with the floating camera was hoooooot!!!!

that is all

You're welcome. :cwink:

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[Superfreak]

was much happier with that episode... and can I say BOOBIES everywhere!!!!

[TheComicbookKid]

Good ep. kept my attention throughout(touch boobies) but I don't like "confessionals" even when they were on Virtuality. That Chloe chick is annoying but uber hot.

[Eklypze]

I actually like Chloe. She is super adorable and I like how shes kinda latched on to Eli. Although I dont think they are going to be more than just friends which is horse****! Plus the whole scene with Eli walking in and seeing her naked had me rollin. That and the scene at the beginning where Eli was explaining the showers. They are easily my 2 fav characters.

Im really liking Young to. I dunno what it is about him but I really like the guy playing him. Anyone know anything else hes been in? All Ive ever seen him in was Saw IV

[Dr Lee]

He was in Shooter

[wiegeabo]

Saw IV! That's where I've seen him. Of course. That had been bugging me forever.

[wiegeabo]

And now that I've remembered to check, he's been in a bunch of guest spots that I've seen.

[carrrnuttt]

Although I dont think they are going to be more than just friends which is horse****!

You must have missed the preview for next week's episode.

Scott and Chloe were "doing it." :doh:

[zanos]

I liked the episode but is this what they are going to end up doing the entire season? They travel around, ship breaks down, they fix it, it breaks down again and puts everyone in danger? There's got to be more than this right?

[C. Lee]

I liked the episode but is this what they are going to end up doing the entire season? They travel around, ship breaks down, they fix it, it breaks down again and puts everyone in danger? There's got to be more than this right?

It's only the third episode......

[Manic]

Well, it sounds like the show is starting off well enough. I might have to set aside my normally busy Friday nights to watch it.

*programs Comedy Central's stand-up block to Tivo*

And now my Fridays are free.

[Gilpesh]

There's got to be more than this right?
It was hinted at right in the last part of Air. A ship took off of the Destiny. A ship that means someone else knows Destiny is out there... and they want it bad enough that they had a small ship on it.

So they're going to have to fight against a big bad outside of the ship, and the ship itself until they figure out how to use it.

[TheCorpulent1]

Holy hell, that chick Eli and Riley were spying on was hot. That's the chick Scott was banging in the kitchen in the pilot, right?

Anyway, is anyone else liking Colonel Young a lot? I like his characterization so far. Dude's a great leader--very pragmatic and concerned with results over all else, but never loses his temper. They balanced him out nicely with the rift between him and his (ungodly hot) wife in this episode, too. I think he and Telford are gonna have a nice rivalry going forward. :up:

[Gilpesh]

Anyway, is anyone else liking Colonel Young a lot?
Definitely. TJ is also getting better, especially with that scene with Rush after his freakout. And even Rush, the fact that he freaked out when he wasn't able to fix the problem... took a little off his, "I'm so smart and mysterious" shield he has.

[TheCorpulent1]

The fact that Rush is in caffeine and nicotine withdrawal explains a lot.

[Manic]

I've seen a few minutes of this show. If Rush is the scientist with the stick up his rear, I think he's withdrawing from a hell of a lot more than coffee and cigarettes. My immediate reaction upon seeing him was "someone must've left their meds on Earth."

[TheCorpulent1]

Haha, yeah, if you watch the rest so far, you'll only hate him more. Dude's a colossal bastard.

[Manic]

I'm guessing there's one character he grudgingly gets along with. Ornery main characters either soften up with time, have that one friend who gets them, or get killed off.

[TheCorpulent1]

Eli seems to be all right with him because he's a super-genius in waiting. Rush respects that. Although even Eli still annoys him at times.

[carrrnuttt]

Holy crap. I just did a major edit on my last spoiler post. I meant to type in another military person's name, instead of what I had in there.

[Gilpesh]

I enjoyed how the soldiers grabbed Eli and told him that he should tell them everything he hears.

[carrrnuttt]

Anyway, is anyone else liking Colonel Young a lot? I like his characterization so far. Dude's a great leader--very pragmatic and concerned with results over all else, but never loses his temper. They balanced him out nicely with the rift between him and his (ungodly hot) wife in this episode, too. I think he and Telford are gonna have a nice rivalry going forward. :up:

The only thing I wish Col. Young would do to make him even more awesome in my eyes is to hand out an order to bind and gag his body as soon as they identify his "replacement" as Col. Telford. What's Telford going to do? Court martial them? :cwink:

[Eklypze]

You must have missed the preview for next week's episode.

Scott and Chloe were "doing it." :doh:

Thats why I said they wouldnt be more than friends. ****ing fatist people

[Gilpesh]

Actually. They just need the annoying love triangle which plays with the whole "nice guy vs bad boy" thing.

[TheCorpulent1]

You know we'll have it. They did it with McKay, Keller, and Ronon in Atlantis.

[Gilpesh]

Or maybe Eli will finally annoy his way into that Vanessa girl's shorts. And the show will avoid having the annoying love triangle.


Aka the impossible.

[Dr Lee]

and that wasn't a real Triangle..... they heavily slanted it in the 'McKeller' direction.... hardly had anything with her and Ronon.... to the anger of a lot of fans.

[Manic]

I gave up on trying to figure out the romances on SG Atlantis. Practically everyone in the cast had excellent chemistry with one another, and I kept registering a bunch of false alarms. John and Liz, John and Teyla, Teyla and Ronon, Liz and Caldwell. At some point, I just gave up and accepted that everyone in that cast just clicks.

[Dr Lee]

i was surprised that TPTB actually went and made a 'Ship' canon (which is different to a Ships cannon :P)... but i agree... the majority of the cast just seemed to click... creating more Shipping Variants in SG:A than i've seen in any other show...

[Superfreak]

Holy hell, that chick Eli and Riley were spying on was hot. That's the chick Scott was banging in the kitchen in the pilot, right?

Anyway, is anyone else liking Colonel Young a lot? I like his characterization so far. Dude's a great leader--very pragmatic and concerned with results over all else, but never loses his temper. They balanced him out nicely with the rift between him and his (ungodly hot) wife in this episode, too. I think he and Telford are gonna have a nice rivalry going forward. :up:

I like Young, he's certainly my favorite character. I hate how he's been 'grounded' by injury. They always seem to do this with the coolest characters (not SG, but TV in general... ie. remember when starbuck, the greatest starfighter of all time was grounded for a season and a 1/2 on BSG, thanks to her broken leg, or Colonel McQueen in SAAB, same bloody deal).

Hopefully he'll be large and in charge by the end of the season.

Gotta re play my call for boobies. Sgt. James has huge boobs, Chloe's got nice ones too.... but I didn't see anyone notice Young's Ex. She's got milfy hotness. Three sets of boobs in one episode: They better pace themselves.

[BlackLantern]

not a fan of Jesus soldier boy..."Can I say a prayer?"....this show has one more episode to impress me

[Superfreak]

not a fan of Jesus soldier boy..."Can I say a prayer?"....this show has one more episode to impress me

seriously, Lt. Matt seemed pretty cool, til the religious stuff. Now I dislike him completely because of it. "Christians don't believe in gravity" (Thanks Peter)

[BlackLantern]

well it is different as you don't see a lot of characters that are people of faith on tv...but I hope it doesn't get out of hand

[Superfreak]

well it is different as you don't see a lot of characters that are people of faith on tv...but I hope it doesn't get out of hand

truth. IMO, they've already taken it a little too far. It's not damning, but I'm certainly not into the idea. Off the top of my head, the Chase character from House MD is a worthwhile character of faith, that doesn't ram it down the audiences throat. And interestingly, the character backround of Chase is similar to Lt. Matt;s

[Arbiter]

Holy hell, that chick Eli and Riley were spying on was hot. That's the chick Scott was banging in the kitchen in the pilot, right?

Anyway, is anyone else liking Colonel Young a lot? I like his characterization so far. Dude's a great leader--very pragmatic and concerned with results over all else, but never loses his temper. They balanced him out nicely with the rift between him and his (ungodly hot) wife in this episode, too. I think he and Telford are gonna have a nice rivalry going forward. :up:
i just keep thinking about what i would do if i was Young.

right before i switched back into my own body id draw **** on his face or get completely naked.

[wiegeabo]

truth. IMO, they've already taken it a little too far. It's not damning, but I'm certainly not into the idea. Off the top of my head, the Chase character from House MD is a worthwhile character of faith, that doesn't ram it down the audiences throat. And interestingly, the character backround of Chase is similar to Lt. Matt;s

How has it gotten out of hand? He explained he was raised by a priest in Air (and showed his screw up), and he's said one prayer for the crew. I see it as just establishing a character.

This really isn't something SG has touched on before. At least not in this way. The Go'uld took on the roles of gods to control humans, as did the Ori. But they've never really showed how a member of the SGC deals with their religion and what the presence of aliens means to them.

[BlackLantern]

maybe the presence of aliens blows away that silly little story book people have believed in their whole lives??

[carrrnuttt]

maybe the presence of aliens blows away that silly little story book people have believed in their whole lives??

Yeah. That's one thing that's comes off kind of "off" to me. How anyone can know about something like the SGC and the whole story behind it, including the knowledge that omniscient, ascended beings exist that even science can stop, and still stay faithful to human religion is beyond me.

[wiegeabo]

Maybe we'll find out.

Science doesn't preclude the existence of god. Nor does ascension, since god could be seen as existing at an even higher level since the Ancients and Ori were still alive (else they wouldn't have been killed).

[Manic]

At the very least, knowing all of the stuff the SGC discovered would blow away a few religious stories. Just look at stories of the origin of man compared to the discovery that the Ancients just sorta went out and created humans.

Maybe it's just a massive coincidence that the SGC members and affiliated civilians we've met thus far have all been agnostic and atheist. At least until now.

[Gilpesh]

The fact that Scott saw that Priest on the desert planet and almost died but thanks to a 'higher power' he found what he was looking for saved everyone AND survived. That doesn't ruin his faith, that brings it back.

[Superfreak]

How has it gotten out of hand? He explained he was raised by a priest in Air (and showed his screw up), and he's said one prayer for the crew. I see it as just establishing a character.

This really isn't something SG has touched on before. At least not in this way. The Go'uld took on the roles of gods to control humans, as did the Ori. But they've never really showed how a member of the SGC deals with their religion and what the presence of aliens means to them.

I meant more on the level that it makes me dislike the character, not the show

[Manic]

I take it if you like the X-Men at all, you're not a fan of Nightcrawler? Which would be a shame, because how can you hate the Blue Errol Flynn?

[RetroNaz]

Religion is a very tough thing to tackle. Especially on a science fiction show. I'm kind of glad they don't go there in all honesty.

Much like politics, I find religion in shows/movies to get very stale, very fast.

That's not meant as an insult to religious people, I just like to watch these shows to escape all of that.

[Manic]

I think religious characters work so long as their beliefs are shown to give them strength. The moment that character uses their beliefs to belittle someone else, the show has gone too far. The only exception I know of is Laverne from Scrubs, whose constant Jesus preaching was used for comedy.

[Gilpesh]

Actually. I think when their beliefs are used to belittle someone else... that means they won't be around by the end of the episode or get what's coming to them as they are the bad of the week.

[Superfreak]

gotta say, every now and then a wonder woman discussion comes up... and if I were to pick on a purely visual criteria, Sgt. James really does fit that bill.


and, given that this is the SG universe, does anyone think that the little tornado was more than a halucination? Perhaps help from another plane of existance?

[Dr Lee]

I'm expecting to find that out later on down the road, yea...... it was too controlled to be anything but....

[C. Lee]

maybe the presence of aliens blows away that silly little story book people have believed in their whole lives??

So....God couldn't have created aliens?

[Mostpowerful]

I think religious characters work so long as their beliefs are shown to give them strength. The moment that character uses their beliefs to belittle someone else, the show has gone too far. The only exception I know of is Laverne from Scrubs, whose constant Jesus preaching was used for comedy.

Agreed. I think Deep Space 9 also did a good job handling religion. Though I wasn't a big fan of that ending with Cap. Sisko.



So....God couldn't have created aliens?

:word: God created the freakin' universe.

[GhostPoet]

I've always felt that religion...in some form or another just furthers to make sci-fi interesting.

[TheVileOne]

Well, Scott on the show is clearly a religious guy. He hasn't lost his religion at least.

The show's doing well and I'm happy. It's very well done so far. I like all the human drama. I both like and dislike Eli if that's possible. I like his more optimistic, humorous attitude, but at times its a little annoying.

The show's also doing very well in the ratings for SyFy, it even beat Dollhouse on the same timeslot. Take that Joss Whedon.

[Superfreak]

At the very least, knowing all of the stuff the SGC discovered would blow away a few religious stories. Just look at stories of the origin of man compared to the discovery that the Ancients just sorta went out and created humans.

Maybe it's just a massive coincidence that the SGC members and affiliated civilians we've met thus far have all been agnostic and atheist. At least until now.

Ronnie Cox was the last religious guy wasnt' he? Way back when he was the evil senator

[Dr Lee]

Mitchell had his grandma.....but i think Kinsey was the last one yea.....

[The Squirrel]

Overall this is a good show. I'm still going to miss Atlantis, but it is nice to still have a Stargate show to watch.

[Happenstance]

Just watched the new episode.......its weird but it doesnt feel like much happened at all until the end scenes. I think the show is missing its adventure aspect and they havent got a good enough handle yet on the drama side for it to fill whole episodes.

Oh but it was nice to see a Peter Deluise cameo already.

[wiegeabo]

Wasn't there an article that said stories this season would occur in arcs? So each story will take two or three episodes to tell?

[Happenstance]

Its certainly looking that way but still they need episodes to stand on their own aswell, people checking out this show for the first time could easily get bored.

[Superfreak]

Just watched the new episode.......its weird but it doesnt feel like much happened at all until the end scenes.



indeed, I have felt the same way about both epi 3 and 4. Not much happening over the course of the episode, to be capped off by a nice montage in epi 3, and the aerobreaking in 4.

however, the 'not much happening' has been good quality.

[Dr Lee]

Here's an interesting BTS development.... Alaina Huffman is expecting her third child....And with TPTB writing in both Claudia Black and Rachael Lutterall's own pregnancies.... will the write in Huffamns one.... or write her out for a while?

[Dr Lee]

Curses and naughty words.....

[Superfreak]

Here's an interesting BTS development.... Alaina Huffman is expecting her third child....And with TPTB writing in both Claudia Black and Rachael Lutterall's own pregnancies.... will the write in Huffamns one.... or write her out for a while?

well, given the situation with the character, it could very well be written in as her reason for resigning from the SGC. It could work very well, given TJ's, Scott and Greer, about it being 'messed up'.

[Dr Lee]

It could also be that, with the fact they are just finishing filming season one atm, she may have had the baby by the time they start filming for a second season....

[chris moore]

Its been said that TJ has a secret past with one of the crew/civilians. Could be a brief liaison with them when she knew she was leaving to go to uni, but its become the classic "it only takes once to happen". That'd be a good way to keep her in.

[Superfreak]

Its been said that TJ has a secret past with one of the crew/civilians. Could be a brief liaison with them when she knew she was leaving to go to uni, but its become the classic "it only takes once to happen". That'd be a good way to keep her in.

seems to me like the scholarship idea was an excuse for something else. Being lost in the midst of the universe, and preggers would be messed up for sure, and a good reason to get out of the SGC for a while.

[Gold Samurai]

Julie Benson tweets about last weeks show

http://img195.imageshack.us/img195/643/captureqy.jpg

In the last two days I have started a blog and joined the world of Twitter! All year people have been trying to get me to -"start a blog, join twitter, get a facebook fanpage or a website" and all year I have resisted...and now after Stargate Universe's episode "Darkness" aired on Friday night, I find myself with something to say. Something that people may or may not want to read. As an actor, Stargate Universe has been the best thing that has ever happened to me. The producers have created the best atmosphere! I love going to work. I love the character I get to play, I love the people I get to act with, and I love the crew. I am now introduced to the fans. What an amazing franchise that so many people out there are so passionate about our show. It is a gift to be involved in something that people have opinions about. As an actor it is an honor for people to have opinions about you. Better that then nothing at all, right? I play 2nd Lt. Vanessa James and for all the talk about my natural (and believe me they are 100%) assets I promise you that there is much more to my character. Who knew that a tank top could cause such a stir. LOL!! Our show is about people and people have sexuality. The creators are not exploiting it, they are exploring it. That is what writers, actors and directors do. I thank all of you for your kind words and excitement about the show- it is thrilling to be in this world and I hope that you continue to enjoy SGU as the season goes on. You will get to see all of the characters grow! Aaaah first blog done! Thanks for reading...I promise to post again soon.

Julia

and a quick google search will tell you she's done nudity

[Dr Lee]

that'll be something to check out later....

[TheComicbookKid]

That post is all kinds of adorable, but I still have the sinking feeling that the writers aren't all that capable of exploring the complexities of sexuality in this story other than clumsily. The fact that they would even have a scene like that before we were properly introduced to the character is worrying.

[BlackLantern]

oh were you saying something??

booobies

[Kahoot]

Julie Benson tweets about last weeks show

http://img195.imageshack.us/img195/643/captureqy.jpg

and a quick google search will tell you she's done nudity
That's one long tweet...

[wiegeabo]

Looks like we were right about Destiny recharging its batteries. :D

I thought this episode was an interesting take on the 'fated to die' type of episode. I really liked how, instead of letting the guy who refuses to be excluded start up a riot, Greer just put his ass down.

I thought the dignity everyone left on Destiny showed was refreshing to what we often see with these types of episodes. And the survivor's guilt of those on the shuttle was good to see as well. No one wanted to be excluded during the lottery, and yet when each of their names were called, it's almost like they didn't want to go.

But the ending when Young realizees that Rush may have known that the Destiny was going to be fine. I don't think Rush knew, at least not for certain. But I think Rush has pretty much put his life in Destiny's hands. I think that he trusts Destiny knows what's it's doing so much, that he's fine with letting the others go on with their supplies. Convinced that Destiny will provide them with a planet that will give them all that they need. And if Destiny is destroyed, he's fine with going down with it.

Until the big bads start showing up, I think the crew is probably best served by letting Destiny do whatever the hell it wants. And even when the bad guys finally do show up, Destiny will still probably know how to best deal with them.

[Superfreak]

the ship's name really generates a lot of deep cliches. 'Rush has pretty much put his life in Destiny's hands', 'Destiny will still probably know best how to deal with them', 'The planet has changed Destiny's course' ... ... etc. It's kind of funny

[Gilpesh]

So. Hopefully they don't try and continue the stupid love triangle after that horrible moment of jumping in the sack in seconds.

[wiegeabo]

I gathered they started seeing each other after he got back from the desert planet (she confided in him after her dad died, and he confided in her after getting back). Still has only been a day or two, but I get the feeling that was the first time they hooked up. And they probably rushed things because they thought they were going to die.

[Gilpesh]

Seeing each other? Hah. They pretty much just turned around after hearing the news and ****ed. There's no dating in between that moment and the forced 'moment' after the desert planet.

[wiegeabo]

Meh. They're two lonely, ****ed up people, in a ****ed up situation, that made a ****ed up connection, and decided to ****.

Actually sounds like something real people would probably do if they really thought they were going to die.

[Gilpesh]

Eh. They're mediocre characters that need to cause drama on the show to make people watch.

[Superfreak]

An otherwise good episode brought down by manufactured melodrama

[Kent]

But the ending when Young realizees that Rush may have known that the Destiny was going to be fine. I don't think Rush knew, at least not for certain. But I think Rush has pretty much put his life in Destiny's hands. I think that he trusts Destiny knows what's it's doing so much, that he's fine with letting the others go on with their supplies. Convinced that Destiny will provide them with a planet that will give them all that they need. And if Destiny is destroyed, he's fine with going down with it.

I figure Rush either knew or heavily suspected it. If he didn't even suspect it then I'll be kind of annoyed seeing as how I (and others online, including in this thread) figured it out almost instantly. If Rush is as smart as he's supposed to be... he should have at least suspected it.

[Kahoot]

Looks like we were right about Destiny recharging its batteries. :D

I thought this episode was an interesting take on the 'fated to die' type of episode. I really liked how, instead of letting the guy who refuses to be excluded start up a riot, Greer just put his ass down.

I thought the dignity everyone left on Destiny showed was refreshing to what we often see with these types of episodes. And the survivor's guilt of those on the shuttle was good to see as well. No one wanted to be excluded during the lottery, and yet when each of their names were called, it's almost like they didn't want to go.

But the ending when Young realizees that Rush may have known that the Destiny was going to be fine. I don't think Rush knew, at least not for certain. But I think Rush has pretty much put his life in Destiny's hands. I think that he trusts Destiny knows what's it's doing so much, that he's fine with letting the others go on with their supplies. Convinced that Destiny will provide them with a planet that will give them all that they need. And if Destiny is destroyed, he's fine with going down with it.

Until the big bads start showing up, I think the crew is probably best served by letting Destiny do whatever the hell it wants. And even when the bad guys finally do show up, Destiny will still probably know how to best deal with them.
sshuttari?

[BlackLantern]

im still trying to find a reason to get into this show....just seems like its missing something

[Mostpowerful]

Seeing each other? Hah. They pretty much just turned around after hearing the news and ****ed. There's no dating in between that moment and the forced 'moment' after the desert planet.

I agree. It was rushed and forced.

Overall, I enjoyed the ep. Some very breathtaking visuals. I so wanted someone to say that the ship was solar powered like Superman! :woot:


.

[TheComicbookKid]

Great sun visual. Weird they just left that soldier unconscious on the floor. Give him a pillow or something.lol

Chloe is ticking me off. I don't have a problem with the idea of the useless person finding purpose, but come on. "I've never felt closer to anyone in my life"? I'm guessing she'll soon find out he's banging Lt. James and go running back to Eli for a should and get the cold shoulder. And Ming-Na's first lines involve backing down in the face of Death. And the Captain just lets one of his soldiers clobber another? All the female characters seem to be growing from weakness while the guys get varied struggles.

[wiegeabo]

Great sun visual. Weird they just left that soldier unconscious on the floor. Give him a pillow or something.lol

Chloe is ticking me off. I don't have a problem with the idea of the useless person finding purpose, but come on. "I've never felt closer to anyone in my life"? I'm guessing she'll soon find out he's banging Lt. James and go running back to Eli for a should and get the cold shoulder. And Ming-Na's first lines involve backing down in the face of Death. And the Captain just lets one of his soldiers clobber another? All the female characters seem to be growing from weakness while the guys get varied struggles.

Damn right Young just let Greer knock that guy on his ass. The last thing they needed was him inciting a riot. If nothing else, Young gave an order, the soldier was breaking it. I was very satisfied with they way they took him down. Usually in these situations, the guy who says "We can't let them do this to us!" ends up making things worse.

[C. Lee]

Great sun visual. Weird they just left that soldier unconscious on the floor. Give him a pillow or something.lol
He's lucky he wasn't shot on the spot....and you want to give him a pillow?

Damn right Young just let Greer knock that guy on his ass. The last thing they needed was him inciting a riot. If nothing else, Young gave an order, the soldier was breaking it. I was very satisfied with they way they took him down. Usually in these situations, the guy who says "We can't let them do this to us!" ends up making things worse.

Agreed. They are in a severely dangerous situation, technically at war, technically out of touch with the pentagon.....Colonel Young is in command....he had a soldier disobeying a direct order and insighting mutiny that endangered the lives of the people around him....Young would be justified in executing him.

[wiegeabo]

Eh. They're mediocre characters that need to cause drama on the show to make people watch.

War time flings are nothing new (not the same thing, but close enough). They feel close to each other because the world feels like it's coming down around them. It's pretty much all physical attraction mixed in with a little adrenaline, despair, and one thing in common (dead parents).

As time goes on, and the crews starts adapting to life on Destiny, they'll probably find they have nothing in common. We'll just have to see which direction the writers are taking it.


On a completely different note, is Peter DeLuise directing every episode of this series?

[wiegeabo]

sshuttari?

Wha? :confused:

[wiegeabo]

He's lucky he wasn't shot on the spot....and you want to give him a pillow?



Agreed. They are in a severely dangerous situation, technically at war, technically out of touch with the pentagon.....Colonel Young is in command....he had a soldier disobeying a direct order and insighting mutiny that endangered the lives of the people around him....Young would be justified in executing him.


Mutiny! That's the word I was searching for. Much thanks.

[C. Lee]

Wha? :confused:

I think he's asking if you are the poster sshuttari at the comingsoon boards.

[wiegeabo]

Oh. Nope. Why?

[C. Lee]

Oh. Nope. Why?

No idea....I googled sshuttari and it came up as a poster at comingsoon.

[TheComicbookKid]

He's lucky he wasn't shot on the spot....and you want to give him a pillow?



Agreed. They are in a severely dangerous situation, technically at war, technically out of touch with the pentagon.....Colonel Young is in command....he had a soldier disobeying a direct order and insighting mutiny that endangered the lives of the people around him....Young would be justified in executing him.

The pillow comment was a joke. I do think they should have removed the guy from the floor. He's still one of your soldiers.


And as a Captain, you have to see the larger picture. What does knocking the guy out accomplish? Placing you as the intimidator and the bully. You can't reason your own soldier to calm down so we as an audience are supposed to see him as the guy who will find a way to control these civilans? Yeah, right.

[ChickenScratch]

I'm just pissed that it wasnt Eli who got a first crack at that sweet a##. He layed all the groundwork and put in his time but she went with psycho go-boy instead. So I guess Eli is in the friend zone now. Unless he can get with that Julie Benson.

[ChickenScratch]

I'm just pissed that it wasn't Eli who got a first crack at that sweet a##. He layed all the groundwork and put in his time but she went with psycho go-boy instead. So I guess Eli is in the friend zone now. Unless he can get with that Julie Benson.

[Gilpesh]

War time flings are nothing new (not the same thing, but close enough). They feel close to each other because the world feels like it's coming down around them. It's pretty much all physical attraction mixed in with a little adrenaline, despair, and one thing in common (dead parents).
Eh. That still really isn't the case. Because they just ran off together, playing like a couple that had been together awhile the second Young's speech was over. I mean, it's not like one went to the other's room to talk about the situation.... and then they just went at it because of physical attraction, adrenaline, despair, etc took over their brains.


And I really don't want the writers to continue with the relationship crap. As that moment really shows they suck at it.

[wiegeabo]

The pillow comment was a joke. I do think they should have removed the guy from the floor. He's still one of your soldiers.


And as a Captain, you have to see the larger picture. What does knocking the guy out accomplish? Placing you as the intimidator and the bully. You can't reason your own soldier to calm down so we as an audience are supposed to see him as the guy who will find a way to control these civilans? Yeah, right.

Um yeah, exactly. That's sort of why he had his soldiers there with their weapons at the ready. There wasn't time to dick around with outbursts and people causing problems. He puts down the first of his own men to speak out against him. You think any of the civilians are going to say anything after seeing that?

Young has to stay tough, and make sure his authority is never questioned. Why? Because he's the chain of command. The only chain of command. If he loses control of the situation, he knows it's going to be chaos. The crew will start splintering in their own groups (which we've started to see), and bicker amongst themselves about who should lead and how. It's just human nature. Unlike Atlantis where everyone volunteered for the mission and understood that Elizabeth was in command of the expedition as a whole, and the colonel, and later Sheppard, commanded the troops. And even then there were people speaking out against the way Elizabeth and John ran things. (Mostly that one scientist, but still.)

[Kahoot]

Oh. Nope. Why?
Really? :huh:

He posted the same post word for word over at CS. The only difference was paragraph 3. So paragraphs 1, 2 & 4 were all the same. Someone copy and pasted...

[Eklypze]

Yea **** Chloe!! That is some ********! Last ep her and Eli were like attatched at the hip and she was clinging on to him pretty hard and all of a sudden now shes with Scott? Thats ********. ****ing tv always gotta hate on the over-weight comic relief. Really pisses me off

[wiegeabo]

Really? :huh:

He posted the same post word for word over at CS. The only difference was paragraph 3. So paragraphs 1, 2 & 4 were all the same. Someone copy and pasted...

:cmad:

I wrote my post right after the episode ended.

[X-Ray]

Damn right Young just let Greer knock that guy on his ass. The last thing they needed was him inciting a riot. If nothing else, Young gave an order, the soldier was breaking it. I was very satisfied with they way they took him down. Usually in these situations, the guy who says "We can't let them do this to us!" ends up making things worse.

I loved it when Greer decked the guy. He's been a pretty solid character since the get go. He knows his place and makes sure everyone else does too when a officer is barking out orders. He's a take no **** kind of guy. And that's why he's my favorite character on the show so far.

I'm just pissed that it wasnt Eli who got a first crack at that sweet a##. He layed all the groundwork and put in his time but she went with psycho go-boy instead. So I guess Eli is in the friend zone now. Unless he can get with that Julie Benson.

That's what I'm talking about. I can see Lt. Huge Rack making the first moves after finding out about Scott & sweet ass.

[wiegeabo]

That's what I'm talking about. I can see Lt. Huge Rack making the first moves after finding out about Scott & sweet ass.

hahahaha Indeed!

Remember, fat guys try harder. ;)

[C. Lee]

The pillow comment was a joke. I do think they should have removed the guy from the floor. He's still one of your soldiers.One of your soldiers......that disobeyed a direct order, was trying to start a mutiny, and was going to put everyones life in danger for his own selfish needs.


And as a Captain, you have to see the larger picture. What does knocking the guy out accomplish? Placing you as the intimidator and the bully. You can't reason your own soldier to calm down so we as an audience are supposed to see him as the guy who will find a way to control these civilans? Yeah, right.

Colonel Young was under the belief that they all would soon be dead. He had to stop a riot from starting and putting the people in the shuttle in danger. Diplomacy can come later....this needed drastic and immediate action.

[RetroNaz]

Sorry, but do we really care that much that the show had someone knock someone down to keep them from starting what could have been a pretty ugly riot.

I would have been ready to join the guys cause if I knew my life was being decided by a random lottery draw. So I think it was the right decision to nip that in the bud before it could have escalated.

It's good to see Rush has finally settled down a little, and I really liked the did he/didn't he tease at the end.

I personally think, he didn't.

[TheComicbookKid]

Listen, C.Lee's right, they were facing death and didn't need a mutiny on his hands. I get that, but using force alone could just as easily have made the situation more violent(Throw a chair in the air, it doesn't even have to hit anyone.lol). That's why leaving him on the floor bothered me not really the put down. He looks like a bully and not just discipling a soldier.

Capt. Young keeps showing bad leadership skills. Instead of ranting his suspicions about Rush infront of his crew, maybe keep that to yourself and investigate later. Instead of making a tense relationship between the crew and Rush worse.

[RetroNaz]

It might be part of a bigger plan that Captain Young makes some pretty questionable decisions.

I could be wrong, but it seems to me like they are possibly building a Young vs Telford rivalry...

[Asgard]

The ending really confused me. I dont understand why Rush was acting snippy with the crew and how or why they thought he knew the ship would be fine traveling through a star. We know that he didnt or at the very least was maybe aware that there could be a chance that the ship would be fine. Either way, sending 15 people off to try and survive in that one planet was a good idea.

Greer was awesome in dispatching that fool. Pretty pathetic how a soldier would act in that manner while the civilians sort of accepted their fate. Dont really get why Greer got naked in prep for his death though.

Chloe getting freaky with Scott was a surprise. Maybe she felt closer to him or whatever after he shared his own troubled past. Felt sorry for Eli. Like that one poster said, he put in the work.

[zanos]

Audiences need to see attractive ppl having sex. The writers must realize this. Suspension of disbelief can be stretched just so far.

[Manic]

If there was a cute chubby girl on this show, they'd probably hook him up with her as a silver medal.

[Gilpesh]

But we all see that horrible love triangle coming where they all angst over each other for an entire season.

[TheCorpulent1]

Yeah, it's very obvious. And I hate it. And I hate Chloe for being the stupid ho who's bouncing between two dudes and having virtually no other identity beyond that. The actress seems like she could do better.

Anyway, pretty predictable episode this past Friday. I think we pretty much all saw it coming that the Destiny would recharge off of the sun. Didn't expect it to fly into the sun, but whatever.

Kind of a shame that they ended on that note of Rush possibly knowing about the ship's method of restoring power. I was liking the idea of him and Young finally developing a bit of respect for each other, but I suppose it's better for the show if they remain adversaries.

[Gilpesh]

I think Rush didn't know about it at all. Especially when he decided not to go into the lottery. But there's something about his character that made him not admit it.

[TheCorpulent1]

I suppose. Either he knew and he's a sinister bastard or he didn't know and he simply refuses to actually treat other people like fellow human beings because he's a colossal douchebag and/or emotionally damaged. Either way, I still like him. Carlyle's doing a great job with the character. Rush is bouncing around from one characterization to the next, but it feels very organic, like they're hinting at the core of his character rather than just being random, badly written personality jumps.

[Gilpesh]

Carlyle even made an infected from 28 Weeks Later an awesome character. Of course he would kick ass in Stargate Universe.

I forget which episode is supposed to be his... probably has a name like Human or something...

[TheCorpulent1]

Yeah, it's "Human." I think it airs in another month or a month and a half.

[Baggers]

Carlyle even made an infected from 28 Weeks Later an awesome character. Of course he would kick ass in Stargate Universe.

I forget which episode is supposed to be his... probably has a name like Human or something...

Yup

http://stargate.wikia.com/wiki/Human_(episode)

[Gilpesh]

Yeah, it's "Human." I think it airs in another month or a month and a half.

Yup

http://stargate.wikia.com/wiki/Human_(episode (http://stargate.wikia.com/wiki/Human_%28episode))
Yay! I guessed right. :awesome:



Alright. After looking around the titles of the episodes. Makes it look like bald guy is going to do something crazy.

[wiegeabo]

I suppose. Either he knew and he's a sinister bastard or he didn't know and he simply refuses to actually treat other people like fellow human beings because he's a colossal douchebag and/or emotionally damaged. Either way, I still like him. Carlyle's doing a great job with the character. Rush is bouncing around from one characterization to the next, but it feels very organic, like they're hinting at the core of his character rather than just being random, badly written personality jumps.

His character is the definitely the most interesting because you just can't figure him out. And Carlyle does an amazing job with him.

As for the end of the episode, I could see it going either way. Either Rush didn't know Destiny would survive, but he was willing to go down with it because it's all he really cares about now.

Or he did know (or at least greatly suspected) because he trusts that Destiny knows what it's doing. And he didn't worry about the shuttle crew taking all their supplies because he had faith Destiny would provide for them. (And if Destiny was going to burn up, it made sense to launch them anyway.)

[Gilpesh]

That little scene where he was happy for once all alone in the control room, suggests that he didn't know and for some reason wants people to think that he did.

[Kahoot]

Are they ever going to learn how to pilot the ship? Have they even found a bridge yet?

[wiegeabo]

Are they ever going to learn how to pilot the ship? Have they even found a bridge yet?

I think they've only been on the ship for a few days.

[Superfreak]

That little scene where he was happy for once all alone in the control room, suggests that he didn't know and for some reason wants people to think that he did.

I just think he's reacting to the other's unwarranted distrust. Unless he's done something in the past that we don't know about. I agree that he didn't know, he wouldn't have been so happy on the balcony.

[Kahoot]

I think they've only been on the ship for a few days.
Now that they have air and power there is nothing stopping them going looking for a bridge and stuff though right?

[Gilpesh]

Now that they have air and power there is nothing stopping them going looking for a bridge and stuff though right?
I think the damaged sections are either hindering them or outright stopping them from searching too much.

[wiegeabo]

Now that they have air and power there is nothing stopping them going looking for a bridge and stuff though right?

Other than damage, they're good to explore as long as food and water hold out. Which probably won't be for much longer.

[TheCorpulent1]

Yay! I guessed right. :awesome:



Alright. After looking around the titles of the episodes. Makes it look like bald guy is going to do something crazy.
Like you couldn't guess that already? He's bald. :o

[Gilpesh]

Like you couldn't guess that already? He's bald. :o
Well. I mean... There's an episode called Justice. Clearly the guy is going to go nuts and then they have to figure out some sort of system to punish people. Or we're just baldist pieces of crap.

[TheCorpulent1]

Baldist and proud. Have you seen bald people? They're f***ing scary. :cmad:

[Gilpesh]

After marathoning Always Sunny season four all day. I can't argue with that.

[wiegeabo]

Wasn't the guy Greer decked the one we saw taking the meds?

[The Squirrel]

Another good episode. Though the love triangle is going to get old.

[Gilpesh]

Wasn't the guy Greer decked the one we saw taking the meds?
Yup. And there's no question about the trouble he will cause in future episodes.

Another good episode. Though the love triangle is going to get old.
Going to? Already is and it just started.

[wiegeabo]

Makes one wonder why they'd let a soldier on meds go on off-world missions when they could potentially be cut off at any time.

[Gilpesh]

Makes one wonder why they'd let a soldier on meds go on off-world missions when they could potentially be cut off at any time.
Either one of these could be the reason:

1) That base was so secret and so easily reached from Earth, that supplies were easy to get and his meds would never be a problem.

or

2) No one knows about it.

[C. Lee]

Yeah....no soldier ever smuggled illegal drugs onto a base before.

[wiegeabo]

Either one of these could be the reason:

1) That base was so secret and so easily reached from Earth, that supplies were easy to get and his meds would never be a problem.

or

2) No one knows about it.

Probably 2. It's hard, but not impossible to hide the condition. Just don't go to a civilian doctor for the scripts. The challenge is keeping it a secret during physicals.

1 I doubt. It doesn't matter how constant supplies between Earth and base are, there's always reasons for the gates to go down for long periods of time, or for personnel to be cut off from the gate. Why send men to another world when they have a condition that requires regular maintenance?

[Gilpesh]

1 I doubt. It doesn't matter how constant supplies between Earth and base are, there's always reasons for the gates to go down for long periods of time, or for personnel to be cut off from the gate. Why send men to another world when they have a condition that requires regular maintenance?
I only say that, because that base didn't seem too out of the way. Ships came regularly and the gate was protected. I doubt that he was constantly going off-world into dangerous conditions. Which is probably why he would get that type of duty to protect a base.

[Kahoot]

The base didn't take incoming worm holes, that's why Eli had to go by ship.

[Happenstance]

Just finished watching "Light" (I was weak)

This was finally an episode I totally got behind. Some very good character building moments, including Greer who up until this point I really didnt like. Yes I think we still need more action in the show but im hoping thats coming up and its just been a slow building start to the series.

The one thing I still dont like:

Chloe hooking up with Scott, once again we see more of a connection between her and Eli than weve ever seen with Scott. Im hoping that showing them hooking up this early is deliberate on the writers part to actually show shes better suited to end up with Eli.

[Kent]

I sure do hope they bring back aliens to this. I mean, I guess it doesn't have to be quite as familiar aliens as before, but still... give me some motherlovin' aliens!

[wiegeabo]

Just finished watching "Light" (I was weak)

This was finally an episode I totally got behind. Some very good character building moments, including Greer who up until this point I really didnt like. Yes I think we still need more action in the show but im hoping thats coming up and its just been a slow building start to the series.

The one thing I still dont like:

Chloe hooking up with Scott, once again we see more of a connection between her and Eli than weve ever seen with Scott. Im hoping that showing them hooking up this early is deliberate on the writers part to actually show shes better suited to end up with Eli.

It's the same old 'girls are attracted to bad/damaged guys' thing. That's mostly what Scott's going for him. She's probably confusing her feelings with the intensity and the promise of forgetting all the crap she's gone through for a short time.

She see Eli as nothing more than a friend. Which doesn't bother me. Makes Eli the underdog we can all root for.

[wiegeabo]

I sure do hope they bring back aliens to this. I mean, I guess it doesn't have to be quite as familiar aliens as before, but still... give me some motherlovin' aliens!

There were the desert aliens...

[Happenstance]

I think its just the fact that weve seen pretty much nothing between her and Scott, nearly all scenes with them have felt forced even if I take Eli out of the picture at this point.

Now what would have been interesting is if the weird whirlwind thing on the planet had altered Scotts DNA and he could no longer get it up, for a character who has now slept with 2 characters (that we know of) on Destiny it could actually give him some depth :p

[wiegeabo]

I think its just the fact that weve seen pretty much nothing between her and Scott, nearly all scenes with them have felt forced even if I take Eli out of the picture at this point.

Now what would have been interesting is if the weird whirlwind thing on the planet had altered Scotts DNA and he could no longer get it up, for a character who has now slept with 2 characters (that we know of) on Destiny it could actually give him some depth :p

*snickers at the double entendre*

[Gilpesh]

Chloe hooking up with Scott, once again we see more of a connection between her and Eli than weve ever seen with Scott. Im hoping that showing them hooking up this early is deliberate on the writers part to actually show shes better suited to end up with Eli.
Why would you think showing the reason that they shouldn't end up together....... is reason that they should end up together? :dry:

[RetroNaz]

Exactly, Gilpesh.

[C. Lee]

Why would you think showing the reason that they shouldn't end up together....... is reason that they should end up together? :dry:

Perhaps he means, by having her jump into bed so soon with him....she will realize that he cares more for getting laid than in her feelings....and so she will notice how much more Eli is suited for her.

But I personally think they just wanted to show two pretty people getting it on and Eli will only be screwed emotionally.

[Gilpesh]

Perhaps he means, by having her jump into bed so soon with him....she will realize that he cares more for getting laid than in her feelings....and so she will notice how much more Eli is suited for her.
And I hope by then Eli has grown a pair and will tell her off good.

But I personally think they just wanted to show two pretty people getting it on and Eli will only be screwed emotionally.
That's actually why I hated that turn so much. It was so obvious, so poorly written, and such a clear attempt to set up a drama love triangle... that I couldn't take it seriously at all.

[RetroNaz]

They rushed the love triangle (if that's what they're going for).

If my dad killed himself to save lives on a ship, I wouldn't be banging some chick mere days later...No, I'm not gay lol.

[The Squirrel]

That's actually why I hated that turn so much. It was so obvious, so poorly written, and such a clear attempt to set up a drama love triangle... that I couldn't take it seriously at all.

It definitely was the weakest part of the episode.

[C. Lee]

And I hope by then Eli has grown a pair and will tell her off good.


That's actually why I hated that turn so much. It was so obvious, so poorly written, and such a clear attempt to set up a drama love triangle... that I couldn't take it seriously at all.

Maybe the female soldier he was screwing in the first episode will find out about him and Chloe....and then hit on Eli for revenge.

[Gilpesh]

and then hit on Eli for revenge.
But I'm afraid for Eli that the hitting would be actual hitting. Cause that James lady is pretty cranky.

[RetroNaz]

Whose the blonde chick that made it onto the shuttle in the last episode?

Eli, sir you need to tap that!

[C. Lee]

But I'm afraid for Eli that the hitting would be actual hitting. Cause that James lady is pretty cranky.

But it still might be the closest he's been with a woman in his life.

[Gilpesh]

But it still might be the closest he's been with a woman in his life.
No. That's going to be when James puts her foot up his ass for spying on her in her pajamas.

[Gold Samurai]

Thinking back on the "What if he knew" line from Young

From past episodes Rush was irritable(part smoking/caffeine withdrawal) and just annoyed at everyone else.

In this episode, not so much. Which leads me to thing "If Rush isn't going off on someone, something's wrong."

He was cooperating with Eli

Overjoyed at the Destiny going into the star's plasma

"I've never been pleased to be wrong in all my life"

It seemed liked he was passing time in his quarters waiting for The Destiny to make it's move.

[wiegeabo]

Hmm...

Could also be that with some actual sleep (10 hours TJ said?) and the worst of the caffeine withdrawal behind him (and actually being on Destiny rather than being continually frustrated by the ninth chevron), he's finally eased up a bit. At least until the nicotine withdrawal gets worse. ;)

I think Eli is the first one to actually earn a little of Rush's respect. First he shows him Destiny from the outside, with Rush was thankful for. Than he stands up to Rush and basically says 'My math kung fu is strong'. The only thing that Rush respects seems to be intelligence. And Eli's shown more of that than any of the other scientists other than Rush. That's even earned some respect from Young since Eli was working the problem while the other brains were just complaining how hopeless it all was.

[wiegeabo]

Hmm...

Could also be that with some actual sleep (10 hours TJ said?) and the worst of the caffeine withdrawal behind him (and actually being on Destiny rather than being continually frustrated by the ninth chevron), he's finally eased up a bit. At least until the nicotine withdrawal gets worse. ;)

I think Eli is the first one to actually earn a little of Rush's respect. First he shows him Destiny from the outside, with Rush was thankful for. Than he stands up to Rush and basically says 'My math kung fu is strong'. The only thing that Rush respects seems to be intelligence. And Eli's shown more of that than any of the other scientists other than Rush. That's even earned some respect from Young since Eli was working the problem while the other brains were just complaining how hopeless it all was.

[Happenstance]

Why would you think showing the reason that they shouldn't end up together....... is reason that they should end up together? :dry:

Its just that in the same episode we get Chloe and Scott hooking up after very little build up apart from a couple of scenes which had nearly zero chemistry and then later we get scenes with Chloe and Eli where it looks like they have more of a connection and we get the shots of her head on his shoulder and the hand holding.

Just to clarify this isnt really about wanting Eli to get with her, its more complaining that they dont have any chemistry and she does with another character. It just feels weird, unless as I said, this is all part of a bigger plan to show who she actually has a connection with on the ship.

[Gilpesh]

Happenstance. It's not a plan. It's bad writing.

[Happenstance]

Well as we are only 5 episodes in im not going to jump to any conclusions or condemn them for bad writing. Especially since we know that Scott sleeps around and that could end up being all this is.

[Kent]

There were the desert aliens...

Seeing as how Scott was the only one to see that it seemed pretty unclear whether or not that was any kind of alien. My own interpretation, even though I want there to be aliens, was that it was a hallucination.

[Happenstance]

Nah I think that was an alien. I think it was leading Scott to where he needed to be and if it was all in his head then how did the water just magically spring up under his head?

[GL1]

Nah I think that was an alien. I think it was leading Scott to where he needed to be and if it was all in his head then how did the water just magically spring up under his head?

Happenstance?

(couldn't resist)

This show is growing on me more and more with every episode. I like the character development angle, even if some of it isn't very consistently done, I like the premise, how straightforward and primal it is, and I can't wait til season 2 when we get to meet the Others and season 3 when we have to defend the ship against the Cylons. Seriously. Derivative or not, I really do enjoy this show.

[TheCorpulent1]

Its just that in the same episode we get Chloe and Scott hooking up after very little build up apart from a couple of scenes which had nearly zero chemistry and then later we get scenes with Chloe and Eli where it looks like they have more of a connection and we get the shots of her head on his shoulder and the hand holding.

Just to clarify this isnt really about wanting Eli to get with her, its more complaining that they dont have any chemistry and she does with another character. It just feels weird, unless as I said, this is all part of a bigger plan to show who she actually has a connection with on the ship.
I interpreted all of that to mean that she found Scott more attractive and f***ed him, and then leaned on Eli because she knew he'd be there for her after Scott was taken out of the picture.

Hence, I don't like Chloe very much anymore.

[Kahoot]

Her head would was probably all over the place since her dad has just died and as far as she knew she was going to die in the next day or so. Plus she can never really return home. So she went on the pull and shagged the first hot guy she could.

I think in the long run Eli will come out on top as the one she realises she loves.

Although she might have a past history with the army guy and that might be why she went to the base with her dad and why she is now on Destiny.

[TheCorpulent1]

I hope Eli rejects her. She is very much treating him as a consolation prize.

[RetroNaz]

Eli needs to meet some sexy ass alien. Pop his cork with that! :P

[Gilpesh]

I hope Eli rejects her. She is very much treating him as a consolation prize.
Really. The eventual relationship between them after that little scene in the mess hall in the first episodes? Great.

The eventual relationship between them after she just randomly runs off with another dude, 'knows' him better than anyone else, and then hangs out with Eli cause she can't be with the random dude? Horrible ****ing idea that ruins two characters.

[GhostPoet]

Really. The eventual relationship between them after that little scene in the mess hall in the first episodes? Great.

The eventual relationship between them after she just randomly runs off with another dude, 'knows' him better than anyone else, and then hangs out with Eli cause she can't be with the random dude? Horrible ****ing idea that ruins two characters.

It's a horrible idea...but I also think it's a very typical, human thing too.


Anyway, loving the series...I just hope that once things get a little more sorted out on the ship we get some more planet-based action sequences.

[TheCorpulent1]

Yeah, I hope they don't forego the action-adventure stuff completely. I'm ready for an alien attack or something for all the hardened soldiers to shoot at already.

[RetroNaz]

Yeah, I hope they don't forego the action-adventure stuff completely. I'm ready for an alien attack or something for all the hardened soldiers to shoot at already.

Sounds like you're watching the wrong show if you're waiting on that - from what I've gathered from cast/crew interviews and so on.

[Superfreak]

I'd love for it to have been: " I don't want to die a virgin".... then they don't die.

[TheVileOne]

I'm hoping that Eli gets with that hot soldier that jerk Scott tossed aside for Chloe.

[TheComicbookKid]

No way,lol, she'd probably have him crying by the end.

[TheVileOne]

That sounds kind of hot.

[Gilpesh]

Why are they making it seem like they would do what everyone wants and kill off Scott, but in such a way that everyone knows that he is going to live?

[wiegeabo]

When he looked back at the ice, I was sort of hoping that Young was going to use the ice as a counter weight. Tie the rope to it, dump it into the crevasse over a big rock/outcropping, and the weight of the ice pulls Scott up. It would have been a good bit of characterization. Would Young sacrifice water for his crew to save one man?

[Gilpesh]

Yeah... I'm done with Universe. I think what did it was trying to trick us that Scott would die and the bit where Chloe told Rush off... is enough for me to not care about the show anymore.

[TheComicbookKid]

I'll give it up. That was a good episode. Eli's seemingly naive nature about lying and Chloe the Useless not withstanding, it was great to seem them solve problems as a team effort however divided it was.

[Superfreak]

it's time for the story to start me thinks... I'm tired of the set up.

[BlackLantern]

Yeah... I'm done with Universe. I think what did it was trying to trick us that Scott would die and the bit where Chloe told Rush off... is enough for me to not care about the show anymore.

agreed....she isn't a soldier or a scientist...she contributes nothing, and therefore doesn't get input....shut your yapper, you vapid little twit...

[Dark Helmet]

agreed....she isn't a soldier or a scientist...she contributes nothing, and therefore doesn't get input....shut your yapper, you vapid little twit...

I am not ready to give up on this show yet like i am with Flash Forward

I agree with that Chloe has no right to say anything in the decisions at this point & don't care for Greer or TJ & Young really annoyed me as it seemed like he would rather argue with what he thinks Rush wants then focus on the task at hand the only likeable one I guess at this point is Eli. Though go James if she eventually kicks Chloe ass. I am ready for Scott & Young to die or get left behind. Chloe gets alone & depressed & eventually bes the one to sacrifice herself the next time that is needed as at this point that is all she is good for

[Gilpesh]

I'll give it up. That was a good episode. Eli's seemingly naive nature about lying and Chloe the Useless not withstanding, it was great to seem them solve problems as a team effort however divided it was.
I think I actually started to like him as a character this week, instead of just as the fanboy voice on the show. Hell, Rush was given some more character development and was actually trusting Eli more.

it's time for the story to start me thinks... I'm tired of the set up.
Ditto. Especially when the setup is just melodramatic crap.

agreed....she isn't a soldier or a scientist...she contributes nothing, and therefore doesn't get input....shut your yapper, you vapid little twit...
I wish Greer would have said, "Who votes we toss Princess Useless on to the planet?"

I am not ready to give up on this show yet like i am with Flash Forward
Yeah. That's the other sci-fi show that I'm dumping.

Though go James if she eventually kicks Chloe ass.
Seeing as she herself told Chloe about Scott... that isn't going to happen. :cmad:

[Dark Helmet]

Seeing as she herself told Chloe about Scott... that isn't going to happen. :cmad:

This is TV bud & TV loves drama. She was simply hiding it waiting for the right moment to strike & heck if you ask me I thought Chloe was thinking "Oh crap shes gonna kick my ass"

[wiegeabo]

I think James thought about kicking ass. At least kicking Scott's ass. But then she realized what kind of guy Scott is, and figured he wasn't worth it. But she saw that Chloe has feelings for Scott (or at least Chloe thinks she has feelings for Scott), and was the bigger person and let her know what was going on. Sort of giving her Scott.

And Chloe had every right to be angry about the idea of leaving Scott behind. The person you're involved with could die, you're gonna speak up. Of course, the others had every right to just ignore her and do what's best for the crew. she has no authority so, other then letting her vent, they don't have to listen to her. Which they really didn't.

Basically, I think Chloe is just trying to fill the void and feel good, even for a moment. She's hooking up with Scott so she doesn't have to deal with the loss of her dad and being trapped on Destiny. And that's a pretty normal thing to do for a lot of people. Scott's taking advantage of the situation, and is might also avoiding dealing with the feelings and memories dredged up during the desert planet.

The only characters that bug me beside the scientists (who are supposed to bug us with their ironic stupidity when dealing with survival situations) are Chloe and Scott. But only when they're together. Separate, I don't mind them. I'm waiting for the situation when someone realizes that she's a senator's aide, and probably the only one on board with any kind of actual political experience. Maybe some kind of diplomatic situation with aliens? Or having to work with the IOC? Until then, she's a fish out of water. She has no other skills to provide since she really didn't belong there. She was only on the base for a political visit. Until they start training her and making her pull her weight, that's what she's going to be.


Greer is quickly becoming one of my favorites. He's a badass, but he's a badass with principles. He, Young, and Rush are at the top of my list. With TJ and Eli right behind them.

[wiegeabo]

stupid double post

[Happenstance]

I agree about Scott and Chloe, together they annoy me but apart they arent so bad.

Greer, even though hes got a bit better I still dont really like.

My favourites at the moment are Young, Rush and maybe Eli with TJ close behind. I think once we get a bit more with her she'll get interesting. I did quite like her in Water.