Stargate SG-1/Atlantis/Universe

[lars573]

Ra's guards in the movie were regular guys, when they spoke with the helmets down they sounded normal. Ra had all the same thing that the snake heads in the TV show do, glowing eyes, and a wired voice. His guards don't, and the people of Abydos think the guards are gods too. There are 3 things they worked into the Stargate mythos when they started SG-1.

1.The stargate goes to multiple planets
2.The Goa'uld are snake like parasites in your head
3.The soldiers are Jaffa, gen-tech soldiers with baby goa'ulds in a pouch in their gut.

In the movie Ra is a dying alien who transfers his mind into a young adult Egyptian to survive. Ra's original body looks like a cross between an Asgard and an Unas.

IMO it's a credit to the creators of SG-1 that all the changes they shoe-horned into the Stargate concept not seem at all forced.

[Superfreak]

I remember an episode where they explained Ra's guards.

The Horus Guard were the most bad @$$ of the Jaffa. They were for guarding the royal goauld family. That's why baldheadgotee goauld from the 4th season had them with him(?Heru-er?). There were fewer of them in number, because they were so much better than the average Jaffa.

as for the changes b/w movie and tv, I don't think the Jaffa were touched, only expanded. They never really explained why the Jaffa were Jaffa, or what they were, just that they were scary....



i hope for a joke, alternate universe episode at some point this season... Jack and Daniel encounter their movie counterparts. I think the writers and cast could have a lot of fun with that. McG vs. Kurt Russel, Shanks vs. Spader.

P.S. Teyla is a great character... but a totally neglected one. There really is no reason for her to be on the show, which is what makes her emensely annoying. If the writers give her a good reason for being, then her presence on the show will greatly improve. It would have worked better if 'her people' had stayed in the city, instead of moving to the mainland, never to be seen. She's essentially playing a female Teal'c. But where Teal'c had revenge and the fight for Jaffa freedom, Teyla has no motivation for her character, other than the wierd relationship b/w her and Shep

[TheCorpulent1]

Except now Ronon Dex is looking like he'll "out-Teal'c" Teyla. He's supposed to be a "specialist" in his people's military (just like Teal'c is a major player in the Jaffa military ranks) and he'll have a revenge motive against the Wraith because of that whole "runner" deal. Meanwhile, Teal'c's story just keeps getting more interesting as the new Free Jaffa Nation enters some sticky political situations.

[Superfreak]

Except now Ronon Dex is looking like he'll "out-Teal'c" Teyla. He's supposed to be a "specialist" in his people's military (just like Teal'c is a major player in the Jaffa military ranks) and he'll have a revenge motive against the Wraith because of that whole "runner" deal. Meanwhile, Teal'c's story just keeps getting more interesting as the new Free Jaffa Nation enters some sticky political situations.

agreed, all I was saying was that Teyla is a neglected character, that could be totally interesting if they flushed her out a little more... give her un raison d'etre.

I think I read somewhere that the new earth battle cruiser, will also have an Asgard crew member... my request was heard (perhaps). I love the little guys, and I'm glad they have (which they should have) a place on atlantis. Frik, the Asgard should be sending fleets to Atlantis

[lars573]

Teyla's whole raison d'etre is to be the attractive female in the main cast, nothing more. Not that I mind a whole bunch. THe adding of Ronon Dex is a less thean subtle indication that Teyla isn't working as the alien character.

[TheCorpulent1]

Yeah, but the fact that her function is the attractive female alien doesn't have to be so incredibly obvious. Carter's function on SG-1 is to be the attractive female of that cast, but she's spunky and endearing and a great character in her own right. Granted, it looks like Vala's gonna be a bit more straightforward in her attractive female capacity this season, which is a shame because Claudia Black's capable of a lot more than just showing off her breasts.

There is an Asgard member onboard the Daedalus. Pics of him are posted on Gateworld's website and others. I'm looking forward to his interactions with the Atlantis crew. I missed the Asgard's presence on Atlantis in the first season, especially since Atlantis would probably be of great interest to the Ancients' old allies. As for why the Asgard aren't appearing in force, remember, they're still rebuilding in the aftermath of all the Replicator attacks. They've gotta completely re-establish their society after almost having their new homeworld destroyed last season. Plus they'd make things too easy as anything other than the occasional deus ex machina. ;)

[Abaddon]

I watch it in syndication.I cant believe they killed off that doctor chick.She was cool.:(

[Superfreak]

Yeah, but the fact that her function is the attractive female alien doesn't have to be so incredibly obvious. Carter's function on SG-1 is to be the attractive female of that cast, but she's spunky and endearing and a great character in her own right. Granted, it looks like Vala's gonna be a bit more straightforward in her attractive female capacity this season, which is a shame because Claudia Black's capable of a lot more than just showing off her breasts.

There is an Asgard member onboard the Daedalus. Pics of him are posted on Gateworld's website and others. I'm looking forward to his interactions with the Atlantis crew. I missed the Asgard's presence on Atlantis in the first season, especially since Atlantis would probably be of great interest to the Ancients' old allies. As for why the Asgard aren't appearing in force, remember, they're still rebuilding in the aftermath of all the Replicator attacks. They've gotta completely re-establish their society after almost having their new homeworld destroyed last season. Plus they'd make things too easy as anything other than the occasional deus ex machina. ;)

That was a whole season ago... I think the Asgard would be swarming the planet with ships (how useful they'd be remains to be seen) Atlantis could solve their cloaning problems permanently... and they could find tech to permanently deal with replicators (if there is a resurgence that is). The way I see it is, Atlantis is uber important to all the races in our galaxy

[TheCorpulent1]

Maybe the Asgard on Daedalus is heading there to determine how uber important Atlantis actually is. Weren't there also Replicators still in the Asgard's galaxy, too? They wouldn't be anywhere near as easy to get rid of over there, since the Ancient weapon was limited to our galaxy.

[lars573]

So does any body have any idea how long the Daedalus is going to be helping out Atlantis? Man I'm going to be seiously out of the loop for a while. I just hope that TMN picks up season 2 of Atlantis when it starts up. I hope that Space can get season 9 of SG-1 hot off the press too. This is the exact opposite of the US-Canada JLU thing. Unless you have an illegal statelite hook up you can't get the Sci-fi channel in Canada.

[TheCorpulent1]

Doesn't Canada get the second half of the season earlier, though? I remember downloading episodes early from Canadian TV stations.

I'm pretty sure the Daedalus is a permanent fixture. I read that it'll be making frequent trips between Earth and Atlantis, presumably to save Atlantis from the Voyager curse.

[lars573]

Maybe we will get SG-1 season 9 when it starts, but more likely in September. Basically Space just got caught up on SG-1 this year. They got seasons 1-5 about a year ago when they went into syndication. They only got season 6, 7, and 8 this year. They put season 6 into the syndicated spot and started showing seasons 7 and 8 one after the other in a prime time slot. Season 8 ended last week. I hope that Space can get Atlantis, figgin movie channel is bogarting it right now.

[TheCorpulent1]

That really sucks. Sci-Fi apparently can't seem to air enough Stargate right now. They show an episode every weekday at 6 p.m. and 4 more episodes on top of that every Monday from 7 to 11 p.m.

[lars573]

Well the way Space works it's prime time is 1 hour of "new" programming a night. Used to be at 10 PM now it's at 11, for Monday to Thursday. Timezones what are you going to do. The othe time slots are made up of re-run programs. Starting at 7 PM you have Star trek voyager, them Andromeda, SG-1 re-runs (seasons 1 to 7 now), then Mutant X. The rotation for the new stuff is Earth 2 (Mon), Jeremiah (TUE), Beyond/Tripping the rift (Wed), New SG-1 (Thurs). But tonight it says that the Stargate summer sensation is on, what ever the hell that is.

[Superfreak]

we usually get screwed in canada for SG-1. Last year's episodes have just finished their first airings.

Atlantis on the other hand, is partly produced by TMN Lars, so they actually have exclusive right to the show, so worry not, we'll be getting those on time. That's why we get it in High def etc. I believe the latest feature magazine has a little something to say about atlantis.

[lars573]

I however don't get TMN, my friend does and he tapes Atlantis for me. I just hope that Space gets SG-1 season 9 in the fall.

[Superfreak]

maybe they wised up, and realized that a show shot in canada should be aired first in canada, regardless of who is paying for the production

[LadyVader]

I watched Children of the gods, 1 and 2 today.
They were so young back then, :) And not really bad actors, but they weren't really comfortable with each other yet.

One thing that I loved was the fact that the chevron guy seemed nervous when performing his task. :D Live it up while you still can, this is going to be your life for the next ten years. :)

[Happenstance]

I watched children of the gods recently, im just so glad that they lightened Teal'c up coz watching it now he just seems way too emotionless

[lars573]

I've seen a few interviews that Space did with Chris Judge when they first got SG-1 and he said that when the series started Teal'C was very under developed. That as they shot the first season they were refining his character, motivation, personality stuff like that. And that is why for the first 2 seasons he doesn't say much.

[TheCorpulent1]

One thing that I loved was the fact that the chevron guy seemed nervous when performing his task. :D Live it up while you still can, this is going to be your life for the next ten years. :)The interview with Walter in "Heroes" was great. "When I get to the 8th chevron, y'know, I like to switch it up a bit, so instead of 'chevron 8 encoded' I'll say 'chevron 8 locked.' It's small, but I think it, uh, adds a lot..." :D

[TheCorpulent1]

Anyone catch the all-day marathons? I missed a big chunk of them because of my classes, but I did get to see the beginnings and ends of both Atlantis and SG-1's marathons.

I hadn't really comprehended just how much the status quo in SG-1 changed over this season. I basically watched "New Order" and the next few episodes, then skipped a bunch because of class, then saw "The Reckoning" part 2, "Threads," and "Moebius," and I was like wow, all the major plots SG-1 had running since its conception are pretty much done now. It was really weird.

[Superfreak]

Atlantis premiers the 18th in Canada, for those who want to know

NEW TV THIS WEEK!!!!!!!

We gots Sg-1, Atlantis, and Battlestar, all starting up this friday. Should be exciting

[TheCorpulent1]

I'm going to be driving to Georgia this Friday night and staying for the weekend, so I won't be able to actually watch the premieres until Monday. :(

[Superfreak]

well, for me it's a late night on the computer, so that I can get all three by morning time

[LadyVader]

My review of Avalon. :)

They're back folks!
Well... sorta.
Carter is in area 51, Teal'c is making a country, Daniel wants to go to Atlantis, Jack... is Jack but somewhere else and Beau Bridges is running SGC. Damn. But the most shocking change of all is this: Daniel has a beard!!!
A beard, Daniel? Are you trying to pull a Riker? Either way honey, you're still gorgeous! :) I can see why Vala wants to jump your bones so bad.
This episode felt like a fresh start. I mean it wanted to be a fresh start but seriously... Mitchell is a complete O'Neill clone. I'm sorry... but he is. Sheppard at least came into his own towards the end of season 1 of Atlantis. I'm hoping Mitchell can find his way too. The most annoying bit of acting is when he jumped up at T'ealc shooting his gun and threw a hissy fit. :) I did laugh when Vala pointed out what a limited gene pool the planet has and Daniel and Mitchell looked at each other funny. HAHA! I just love it how this show knows not to take itself seriously. That's why I keep coming back honestly. Take this episode for instance. I did get bored at times, but the spirit was still there. :)
What was fresh was the whole Avalon angle. I love celtic lore, Arthur's legend, the Grail, etc, etc. Vala brought a touch of mischief to the show but even I started to find her annoying at some points and now when I think about it, she's kinda of a an idiot. She didn't know about the bracelets, she opened the pots without thinking. I understand she would be rash with other people's lives but not with her own. however I believe that's just bad writing. The writers needed her rashness as an excuse for the plot to unravel. Hopefully she'll prove her worth later on. Teal'c was there but for the grace of god. :) He didn't do much but I still loved that little smirk he gave when he psyched out Mitchell. Beau Bridges is a weird choice for a general, he reminds me a lot of Don S Davis, and we haven't heard an explanation why he got command of the SGC. And while we're on the subject of commanding and stuff, are they turning the chevron guy into a sci-fi Radar? They even have the same name: "Walter". :D
Funniest line of the week:
"I haven't been this disappointed since I had sex with Daniel."
Man, I'm sick of cliffhangers! This wasn't the best episode ever but it did it's job ok. Mitchell, for all his faults, I could understand where he was coming from. The new angle is appealing to me so overall, I'd giver this episode a 7 out of 10.
Make that 7,5 cause Shanks seems to have lost the tummy! YAY!

[TheCorpulent1]

Gary Jones, the dude who plays Walter, actually made a comment about the Radar comparison on a commentary on season 7's DVD. Apparently the crew likes Jones, so they keep developing Walter, who was supposed to basically be a nobody, until now, after helping 4 generals and a civilian run the SGC, he's kind of the behind the scenes glue that holds the SGC's administrative side together. I think it's great, myself. He's the perfect geek within the geek genre. :)

[Superfreak]

Atlantis was pretty fun, though a little over the top.

It's all about the Asgard Transporter Nukes, that was cool, although ultimately obvious.

I think we are now seeing the seeds of Teala's importance. She can read Wraith minds, Ford is now 1/2 wraith, and totally out of control... anyone see a link here. It'll be Teala who bring Ford back into the fold, they'll be a dynamic duo.

Everett is gone (thank everything holy).

The daedelus is very cool, but I would have loved to see some 302's buzzing around. And the ship is captained by Assistant Director Skinner (xfiles), nice to see that dude.

The 'rain' on the Atlantis shield was cool, as was the solution to end the seige.

5 Hive ships down, 65 to go.

[TheCorpulent1]

I really liked Caldwell. He seemed like the perfect colonel and he oozed confidence so readily. I'm looking forward to how that kind of personality inevitably clashes with Weir's over Atlantis, since apparently no high-ranking US military leader can come to Atlantis without challenging Weir's authority at some point. I'm looking forward to more of Hermiod, and I really think Ford's new direction is going to create some interesting changes.

[LadyVader]

I thought the solution as pretty... "unstable". The wraith seem pretty stupid to believe that a city would just completely disappear after an explosion. Shouldn't there be something left over.
But then again this is Stargate so... :) I can't really complain, even thought they're really pushing it sometimes.
I don't know what to think about Ford's transfomation yet. On the one hand I'm glad they're finally doing something with the character but on the other hand there have been plenty of good guys and gals gone bad in Stargate and I wouldn't want to see Atlantis going down the same path.
for some reason I prefer Avalon over this episode. Maybe it's because of that damn cliffhanger. :)

[Superfreak]

I thought the solution as pretty... "unstable". The wraith seem pretty stupid to believe that a city would just completely disappear after an explosion. Shouldn't there be something left over.
But then again this is Stargate so... :) I can't really complain, even thought they're really pushing it sometimes.
I don't know what to think about Ford's transfomation yet. On the one hand I'm glad they're finally doing something with the character but on the other hand there have been plenty of good guys and gals gone bad in Stargate and I wouldn't want to see Atlantis going down the same path.
for some reason I prefer Avalon over this episode. Maybe it's because of that damn cliffhanger. :)

diddo, I think it's because of Mitchell. I personally want to see more of him, and what he can do.

It seems Atlantis didn't really resolve anything. PS, the Towrie on Atlantis should sell Cloak technology to the Genai, and solve all their problems

[GothicPowerMix1]

I hope we get to see the SG1 crew in Atlantis some time soon :up: Since that new guy in SG1 is so much like Sheppard. When the SG1 crew would cross over Sheppard can be away going after Ford & I can just picture now comments from McKay & Elizabeth Dr. Weir like after Mitchell would say something (think like it'd be something similiar Sheppard would say & they can be like "Are you by any chance related to the Sheppard family" something like that / stuff like that :up: Could proove for some good humor with an SG1 cross over

[Superfreak]

another cliffhanger of sorts... I must say that 902 was a bit dissappointing. The implications of the episode will be cool, but really, not much happened. The follow up should be interesting though

New doctor, Lexa from andormeda (great choice, she's hot hot hot) And I suspect a future love interest for Mitchell. And I'm assuming that she is the General's daughter.

A little brutal at the end, with the immolation of Vala as Salas. Here's a question: Would this scene have been more powerful had Vala actually died for real.

What I'm loving so far, is that it seems that SG-1 has restocked it's cast with fresh actors, from other successful scifi series. I have a feeling that the new blood will inject some new life into the show, causing it to live for a few more years, which is a good thing on two levels.

Atlantis in an hour or so, will be back

[TheCorpulent1]

I loved SG-1 this time around. "Avalon I" was good but a bit slow for the "more hardcore Stargate" that the producers have promised in interviews. Vala was annoying in it, too. In this episode, outside of the somewhat cheesy knight duel, everything felt a lot more like the Stargate of old, and Vala was actually funny since she toned down the clichéd sexual innuendoes a notch.

Obviously there's no replacing Jack, but Mitchell's doing an admirable job of coming into his own. He's already displayed far more interest in what's going on than Jack, who always tended to remain detached, and Browder's sense of humor is great, so given a bit more time to get comfortable with his new role, I think he'll be just as funny and interesting to watch as RDA made Jack. Granted, I may be biased because I'm a big Farscape fan, but this episode featured some good Mitchell stuff.

The introduction to the Ori was powerful and a hell of a lot more intense than I would've credited the somewhat fluffed-up, less serious Stargate of the past 2 or 3 seasons with attempting. I don't think Vala's actually dying would've made it any more powerful, since the most stirring part of the whole thing was when Vala "woke up" and broke into tears halfway through her joke about the ordeal. Vala was initially glib and Mitchell was initially a fanboy going on a great adventure; now, from that look on Mitchell's face when the new doctor pronounces Vala dead to Vala having to go through that whole ordeal, you can see that they've gone from light-hearted adventuring to serious, life-and-death peril. This whole episode seemed to bring the gravity of what the "new" SG-1 (since Mitchell's still technically the only SG-1 member at this point) was getting into crashing down on them.

[Superfreak]

yeah, I agree with you there

Atlantis: me loves X-302's. So me loves this episode. Colonel Sheppard jumps in a 302 twice during the epi. So I'm happy. This was an interesting throwaway episode. Computer virus infects the Prometheus, as it returns from earth to pick up the Atlantis command team, who had returned home for debriefing, to request reinforcements (civilian and military), and recieve promotions.

The virus is wraith, so we get a little skynet action going on. The highlight of the episode is Colonel Sheppard vs. Virus, each in a 302 dog fighting as they approach the no go zone around a star.

Everything end hunkydory as we arrive back at the city.

There's a little bit of a melodramatic sob story about Wier and her cock at home. Which really didn't turn out to be all that interesting, and had no closure. The other Earth bound scenes were relatively interesting, no need to go into to much detail, as they were short and straightforward.

The episode was good, and basic fun.

Ended with Zilenka reporting on all the new gizmo's that had turned on since the ZPM had been installed, so that should be a fun little tangent to see in future episodes. No mention on what up with Ford, other than he's still missing.

[Superfreak]

I loved SG-1 this time around. "Avalon I" was good but a bit slow for the "more hardcore Stargate" that the producers have promised in interviews. Vala was annoying in it, too. In this episode, outside of the somewhat cheesy knight duel, everything felt a lot more like the Stargate of old, and Vala was actually funny since she toned down the clichéd sexual innuendoes a notch.

Obviously there's no replacing Jack, but Mitchell's doing an admirable job of coming into his own. He's already displayed far more interest in what's going on than Jack, who always tended to remain detached, and Browder's sense of humor is great, so given a bit more time to get comfortable with his new role, I think he'll be just as funny and interesting to watch as RDA made Jack. Granted, I may be biased because I'm a big Farscape fan, but this episode featured some good Mitchell stuff.

The introduction to the Ori was powerful and a hell of a lot more intense than I would've credited the somewhat fluffed-up, less serious Stargate of the past 2 or 3 seasons with attempting. I don't think Vala's actually dying would've made it any more powerful, since the most stirring part of the whole thing was when Vala "woke up" and broke into tears halfway through her joke about the ordeal. Vala was initially glib and Mitchell was initially a fanboy going on a great adventure; now, from that look on Mitchell's face when the new doctor pronounces Vala dead to Vala having to go through that whole ordeal, you can see that they've gone from light-hearted adventuring to serious, life-and-death peril. This whole episode seemed to bring the gravity of what the "new" SG-1 (since Mitchell's still technically the only SG-1 member at this point) was getting into crashing down on them.

oh yeah, the developing issues with the Jaffa should be an interesting twist.

[OobeDoobBenubi]

That Andromeda chick sure is getting around now that Andromeda is cancelled


First The 4400 now Stargate SG1 I wonder whats next we'll see her in.


Aight episode definitely somewhat interesting. The sword fight was cool though.

Hey guys I got a question. I am new to SG1 I am just wondering was Kurt Russell ever asked to come back as Jack 0 Neil ?

[TheCorpulent1]

Oh yeah, about Atlantis: I loved that moment where Hermiod out-McKayed McKay.

McKay: It's a computer virus!
Hermiod: How perceptive of you.

:D

[Happenstance]

I havent seen the new atlantis yet but I saw Avalon Part 2.

Im still not completly sold on this new season yet. I mean I love the relationship between Daniel and Vala, Mitchell isnt as bad as I thought he was gonna be. I look forward to Sam returning and more info on how Teal'c has to either leave the Jaffa Nation or sticks with the SGC while helping out with the Jaffa (although thats looking unlikely).
I still miss Jack, last year was tollerable with him being stuck at the SGC but only a few appearences a season will be a real shame.

One thing I would have liked would have been at least a few eps before the new bad guys are introduced. I mean they just got rid of the Go'auld and the replicators so id have liked maybe 2 or 3 eps of the classic planet exploring that we used to get in the eariler seasons, I mean you could expect it anyway with Mitchell having only just joined SG1.

[LadyVader]

I've just seen Avalon 2 and I guess it's predictable that I totally loved it. It was great on all fronts:
- Action: the semi-holographic fence fight. They're really pumping up the character developement for Mitchell, which is ok but he still feels like an O'Neill clone to me.
-Humour: it was funny seeing Daniel and Vala being not nice to each other, but civilised. They had an image to maintain afterall. I laughed out loud when Daniel talked about the incident in "Average Joe" and Mitchell said he read the file on that weird guy. I thought he looked directly into the camera at the audience. Upon reinspection I realised he was looking at the doctor, but still... it would've been a funny scene. :)
- Drama: Vala going extracrispy. Damn. I really cringed at that one. I couldn't believe the Stargate producers were actually letting us see someone burn to death. And both Black's and Shank's acting was perfect. I loved the fact that Vala didn't just jump up and say: "Ok, I'm back. Let's get some treasure up in here." She died and she knew it. Now she's got something more in common with Daniel. ;)
- Character Developement: pretty much all around. I like Doig as the doctor, and her relationship with her father. Nice touch, I love family stories and this could be a nice alternative to the Carter father-daughter story, given that these two don't seem very close.
Teal'c is getting intense!!! I love what they did with him this episode. First almost losing his temper, then going on defense and having to remind the Jaffa they're behaving like inconsiderate, ungrateful little brats and then like complete idiots. Up until now he knew what he had to do, who he had to fight, but how can he fight the will of his own people? Great stuff! And I've never even been interested in the Jaffa plot.
And speaking of moral ambigouity, what's with the guy with the staff? He saved vala, but he encourages the Ori (it's that how it's spelled?) worship. Good things are coming our way!

[Morg]

Hey guys I got a question. I am new to SG1 I am just wondering was Kurt Russell ever asked to come back as Jack 0 Neil ?


Not sure, but probably not. Kurt usually do movies now, not tv series

[TheCorpulent1]

It'd be a weird transition if Kurt Russell came in now, after 8 years of RDA as Jack. RDA really made the role his own, and the character has come a very, very long way from the movie.

[OobeDoobBenubi]

Um that was NOT my question. You guys are twisting my question around. I am asking if Kurt Russell was EVER asked to come back as Jack O Neil BEFORE Stargate SG1 started like was he the FIRST & ORIGINAL choice.

[TheCorpulent1]

I wasn't trying to answer your question, I was just musing on Kurt Russell's O'Neil (one L) vs. RDA's O'Neill (two L's). I don't know if he was ever asked to come back, though I doubt it. I recently watched a special on the making of SG-1 from concept to completion and it seemed as if MGM wanted Stargate adapted into a TV series, Brad Wright and Jonathan Glassner worked together to do it, and RDA was excited about it so he signed on. I don't think Russell was ever involved at all, although he did visit the set once.

[Happenstance]

No kurt russel wasnt asked I dont think. Its weird coz I was just watching one of the special features on my SG1 dvds and it said that they went straight to RDA when the idea was pitched to make the series, definately a good choice. It was RDA who said that if he was gonna play O'Neil they'd have to find a way to get his sense of humour into the character

[Superfreak]

Having a Anderson/Russel team up would be great. Make them from alternate realities etc. Through the magic mirror or whatever they can write. That'd be jokes. I'd love to see Jack walk into the room and see Oneill (Russel) , his grittier, more realistic movie opposite, sitting in the command center. They each give a funny look at each other bla bla bla on goes the story. It'd be a nice, and humorous way to tie everything together (think on the humor level of the stone/barber episode)

[Happenstance]

Shame they had the quantum mirror was destroyed after alternate Carter and Kawalski returned to their universe.
Also I know movie O'Neill seems the more realistic to us from a viewers point of view but according to real generals there are members of the airforce which are just like SG1 O'Neill and much worse

[Superfreak]

Shame they had the quantum mirror was destroyed after alternate Carter and Kawalski returned to their universe.
Also I know movie O'Neill seems the more realistic to us from a viewers point of view but according to real generals there are members of the airforce which are just like SG1 O'Neill and much worse

yeah yeah, I saw that special too

[Happenstance]

yeah yeah, I saw that special too

Lol, just been going through my SG1 boxsets recently and watched that special feature. Im watching season 4 as im typing this

[LadyVader]

A lovely interview with Michael Shanks :):

GateWorld: Michael ... two words: The beard.

Michael Shanks: [Laughter] What?!

GateWorld: Whose idea was this?

MS: It was my idea. They wanted, obviously, to have a little, at least initial difference between Ben [Browder] and I ... just out of pure, I think sheer paranoia. But there's so many different things with our fans about associating Ben and I as looking alike, which we look at each other and sort of roll our eyes a little bit.

But there was obviously a little bit of concern. And they just asked if there was anything -- him being the more clean-cut soldier type, my character can get away with a lot more. So is there something that I can do? I said, "I don't feel like growing my hair long again. And that may take a bit." I said, "I really don't like shaving every day." So I said, "Well, why don't I keep the beard for a bit and we'll see what happens." And it was, "Yeah, let's see how it works." And they really liked it.

And now it's just a matter of phasing it out. Because I think the idea in our heads was after a certain period of time we knew we were playing different characters. I said to Brad [Wright, executive producer], "They do know I'll be the one with the glasses, right?"


Shanks' new beard will be phased out early in Season Nine.
But Ben and I, we both established completely different characters and what not. So it's very distinct now to anybody, especially our guys, that there's a strong difference that the audience will get.

Maybe not in sweeping wide shots or whatever, because Ben and I, we're a couple of 6-foot tall white guys with blue eyes and brown hair and from a very wide camera that can be a little bit deceptive! But we think for after about maybe five or six episodes we're going to "adios" it.

GW: You were really hoping for Claudia [Black] to come back.

MS: Oh, yeah.

GW: Now she's here and with Ben and Louis Gossett and Beau Bridges. How do you feel about this new dynamic?

MS: It's fantastic. It's great. It's been phenomenal. Obviously, Claudia and I have a lot of fun working together and they've written some great stuff for us to play off of in this kind of antagonistic dynamic that we established in "Prometheus [Unbound]." It continues on. It's a really nice repoire that, from what I've seen so far, brings a nice energy to the show that we haven't really had on a regular, on-going basis.

That's tons of fun. She's a hoot to work with. And Ben is very much the sort of stoic colonel that we need. He's got that Southern twang to his voice which is a great, different voice for us, especially. And he's a really assertive and specific actor. We have conversations about the scenes all the time.


Daniel and Vala possess the bodies of two people in another galaxy. From "Avalon, Part 2."
And then, of course, you have Beau Bridges. Chris [Judge] when he decides to frickin' show up. With Beau there as well, and Lou Gossett, and also Lexa on the show, it's a completely different dynamic in a lot of different ways. Obviously, not necessarily from the point of view of my character -- Sorry, the point of view to my character, but the point of view from my character it's a very different dynamic. But it's a strong one and it works really well so we're really enjoying it.

They're so professional and they're such nice people. It's the kind of thing, especially with a new group of people, that there's no egos in the room. Everybody just sits around in-between takes either talking about the scene if necessary or having Beau Bridges tell a few stories about "this happened and that happened," and what not. And Lou as well ...

It's great! And it's a very warm group, a very strong group as well. So it's phenomenal. We're really enjoying it. And the newness of it feels like a completely different show, as well. When I say "completely different" I obviously don't mean what everyone is afraid of.

GW: It's for the better.

MS: I really think so. By the end of last year we solved a lot of threads, and it's really good for this new way we're taking the show to really have these new people and these new energies, frankly.

And they're great characters. They've been really well fleshed out, very intelligently fleshed out in terms of lots of dynamics between them. There's a very strong -- and this is the fun part: We're really feeling each other out. As much as the characters are, the actors are. It's really fun and it makes for good chemistry. It's a good mix.


Shanks hasn't shared many scenes with wife Lexa Doig yet ... conscious scenes, anyway. From "The Ties That Bind."
GW: Let me just ask real quick, you did a couple of Andromeda episodes with Lexa that were really fantastic. What's it like now to have her on your show?

MS: It's great!

GW: Have you worked with her much?

MS: I haven't work with her much. She's been working a lot with Beau, mostly. And most of the time that we've been in scenes I've been unconscious, believe it or not.

But it's great to have her here. Her and I both said too, on my schedule and her schedule when we're on different shows we talked a few hours at home, maybe. We don't have much turn-around time. Now we get to sit around, and the same way the cast bonds I get to bond with my wife. We get to see each other, and bring the baby to set, and it turns into this whole family dynamic as well.

I'm so happy for her, too. She's absolutely on cloud nine working with Beau so much. She kind of felt that in the latter parts of Andromeda that things were not necessarily that prominent for her character to do. And now she gets to play a completely different character. She'll say it at some point, too: she gets to wear cotton, which she's been wanting to do for a long time!

And she gets to work with Beau Bridges everyday, so I think that [it's a] definitive, positive, professional character. She plays it very well.

GW: Thank you, Michael!

MS: No problem!

[TheCorpulent1]

Yep. Read that over at Gateworld. I'm glad that the cast all seem to be re-energized because of all the changes. A lot of people whine about how it's not "really" SG-1 anymore, but I say poppycock to all that. It's not the same, but it is still SG-1, just in some new contexts. Whether those contexts prove as interesting as the original ones remains to be seen, but let's not forget that Stargate SG-1 wasn't "really" the Stargate established by the movie when it started, either. ;)

[OobeDoobBenubi]

Question guys I recently brought Seasons 1 - 7 of Stargate on DVD. I am last episode of Volume 4 Season 2 & I have one question. I know Daniel's wife is alive even though that thing is still inside her she is obviously still in there somewhere & yes I know the big bad guy Apophis is dead but is Skarrow well in other words the kid from the original movie that ended up liking Kurt Russells Jack 0 Neil. It was said that BOTH Apophis & he survived. Like I said Daniels wife is still alive obviously my question is when is the next time we will hear from them ? Havent heard about Skarrow (I think that is his name) is he still alive somewhere ? Because there was one episode after the explosions of the 2 motherships where Apophis used Teal Cs son. There is still no word on Skarrow. Do any of you remember if hes still around in later seasons ?

[Superfreak]

he is around, there are I think 2 major episodes with him in. I could look them up on my other HD, but I'm too lazy... Skarra is last seen in full cirlce at the end of season 6.

[OobeDoobBenubi]

Yes I am asking to be spoiled here but do they become normal again ? Obviously Daniel never found his wife unless he did they just did not stay together after her becoming normal ? Spoil me away with these story lines guys.

[LadyVader]

The thing is after 9 seasons you kinda get fuzzy on the details. As far as I know, Sha Re became pregnant with Apophis's kid who was supposed to have all the knowledge of the goa'uld and died shortly after she gave birth to him in season 4 I think. I have no idea what happens to Skarra after he leads the attack force to destroy Earth at the begining of season 2, except that they do meet him again in later seasons. O'Neill tries to get to him, I think he succeds and yeah, Skarra then ascends.

[OobeDoobBenubi]

The kid is alive Apophis's kid that is. Daniel left him with his wife's father. The kid is being hidden. Daniel is the one that gave birth to him & Sha Re is alive far as I know. The bith thing happened in Season 2 & the last we saw of Sha Re she was leaving with Apophis after the kid was hidden & the last thing she did was look directly at Daniel & the SG1 while leaving (who were hiding from Apophis) so obviously there is still some Sha Re left in her after the thing in her being asleep.

[Superfreak]

Yes I am asking to be spoiled here but do they become normal again ? Obviously Daniel never found his wife unless he did they just did not stay together after her becoming normal ? Spoil me away with these story lines guys.


Ok, you asked for it.

Daniels wife/goauld becomes free, but only for a short while, while she is pregnant with the child of apophis... When the goauld reasserts itself after the child is born, Daniels wife takes off. She is later encountered during a rescue mission to save Abidonians(Kidnapped to find the child), where she is killed by Teal'c, while killing daniel with a wrist device. There is a psychic link w/i the wrist device, allowing Daniel and Sharre to be with eachother for a short time, long enough for Sharre to tell Daniel where her Goauld has hidden the child. (hence the episode title: Forever in a day).

Skarra/Goauld, is eventually arrested by the advanced humans (the ones rescued from volcano planet in season 1). He goes through a court and the goauld is removed. Skarra later gets blown away fighting Jaffa, and bleeds to death in the basement of the Abidos pyramid. He then ascends just prior to the destruction of the planet by Anubis' superweapon.

The story comes back to the child 2 more times. Once when SG-1 locates the hidding place to with Charre's Goauld takes baby(maternal instincts). And again the season afterwards, when the child returns to learn of its mother(absolute power).

[OobeDoobBenubi]

So Skarra & Daniel's wife both die in the end eh well that just sucks. I would have thought Skarra would at least live with Jack's help.

[LadyVader]

He isn't dead! If anything his the luckiest one in the whole show! He didn't do anything and still he ascended. Daniel had to save an entire civilisation and then die a horrible painful death.

[lars573]

Ok, you asked for it.

Daniels wife/goauld becomes free, but only for a short while, while she is pregnant with the child of apophis... When the goauld reasserts itself after the child is born, Daniels wife takes off. She is later encountered during a rescue mission to save Abidonians(Kidnapped to find the child), where she is killed by Teal'c, while killing daniel with a wrist device. There is a psychic link w/i the wrist device, allowing Daniel and Sharre to be with eachother for a short time, long enough for Sharre to tell Daniel where her Goauld has hidden the child. (hence the episode title: Forever in a day).

Skarra/Goauld, is eventually arrested by the advanced humans (the ones rescued from volcano planet in season 1). He goes through a court and the goauld is removed. Skarra later gets blown away fighting Jaffa, and bleeds to death in the basement of the Abidos pyramid. He then ascends just prior to the destruction of the planet by Anubis' superweapon.

The story comes back to the child 2 more times. Once when SG-1 locates the hidding place to with Charre's Goauld takes baby(maternal instincts). And again the season afterwards, when the child returns to learn of its mother(absolute power).

It's actually Sha're/Amaunet and Skaara/Corel

[Superfreak]

It's actually Sha're/Amaunet and Skaara/Corel

whatever.... ;)

what's on the menu for tonight's installment?

[Matt]

Can the next 3 posters be so kind to include LOL in their posts for me? Strange request, I know.

[Happenstance]

It's actually Sha're/Amaunet and Skaara/Corel

Its actually Sha're/Amunet and Skaara/Klorel :P

EDIT: LOL (for Matt)

[OobeDoobBenubi]

Apophis is really starting to piss me off. Can't this guy die damn it
(referring to Season 3) Hey can any of you guys tell me if Apophis is DEAD DEAD & can NOT pop up out of no where during Season 9 ? I am getting annoyed of him popping up :down

[lars573]

Its actually Sha're/Amunet and Skaara/Klorel :P

EDIT: LOL (for Matt)

No I've seen the relavent episodes 4 times each (thank you Space) and they say Corel maybe it's with a K or maybe not but it's Corel and not Klorel for sure.

MvTrlrMsc you don't have to wait long he dies for good at the end of either season 4 or 5. When your ship crashs into a planet at full sub-light speed and makes an explosion that changes the weather you tend not to live through it. But you see him a few more times in alternate realities and flash backs.

[OobeDoobBenubi]

Thank God :up:


I just finished the Skaara episode. It is nice to see ONE story that has a tie in to the movie end happily :up:

I am guessing Skaara is now home & there will be more episodes in future seasons on that planet. Well the whole show is a tie in to the movie but you get the idea.

[lars573]

MvTrlrMsc, read the following at your own risk.

Actually Anubis exterminates the whole population of Abbydos (including good father and Skaara) in the season 6 finaly. But Oma hepls them accend, so they don't really die....

[OobeDoobBenubi]

Well I hope 0 Neil & Jackson eventually finds out they are okay. Do they ? I really hate unresolved plot twists.

[Happenstance]

Why dont you just watch the seasons yourself? Its a lot better than finding out all the information on here. And lars ive just been watching season 1-6 back to back for the past few weeks and I know its Klorel, heres a link that shows it:

Link To Klorel's Bio On Gateworld (http://www.gateworld.net/omnipedia/characters/index.shtml)

Just go down and click on K for proof, heres the bio:

THE STARGATE OMNIPEDIA
Link Here | ?
KLOREL
The son of Apophis, Klorel is a young Goa'uld who took the Abydonian Skaara as his host. Eager to earn the respect of his father, Klorel joined his father in a campaign against Earth. Unknown to him, SG-1 had boarded and sabotaged his Ha'tak. O'Neill was determined to get through to Skaara, but was only somewhat successful. Jack was forced to shoot Klorel to keep him from killing Jackson with a hand device. However, unbeknownst to O'Neill, the Jaffa Bra'tac placed him in his sarcophagus, restoring him to life.

The campaign against Earth failed after SG-1 and Bra'tac destroyed the two attack ships, and Klorel escaped with Apophis through the on-board Stargate.

Two years later, Klorel fled a battle group dispatched by the System Lord Heru-ur, and made his way to the planet Tollana. He crash-landed in a death glider, and his injuries allowed Skaara to surface and plead for help from the Tollan people. The Tollan placed Klorel and Skaara on triad to decide who will permanently be in charge over Skaara's body. In the end, the swaying vote fell to Lya of the Nox, who declared Klorel should to be removed from Skaara's body.

Klorel, indeed, was removed by the Tok'ra, and sent through the Stargate to the Goa'uld world of his choice. It is unknown if he survived long enough to possess another host.

PLAYED BY - Alexis Cruz
FIRST APPEARED - Children of the Gods

KEY EPISODE(S) -
Children of the Gods - Klorel takes Skaara, a young Abydonian boy, as his host after Apophis kidnaps him.

Within the Serpent's Grasp - SG-1 discovers that the Goa'uld who has taken Skaara is Apophis' son, and is joining the Goa'uld's attack on Earth.

The Serpent's Lair - The team thwarts Klorel and Apophis' attack on Earth, but Klorel is brought back to life with a sarcophagus and escapes with Apophis.

Pretense - Klorel crash lands on Tollana, where the Tollan hold a trial to determine whether he or Skaara have a right to Skaara's body. Klorel loses, and is extracted and sent to a Goa'uld-controlled planet.

[TheCorpulent1]

Well I hope 0 Neil & Jackson eventually finds out they are okay. Do they ? I really hate unresolved plot twists.
Jack and Daniel find out that Skaara and the other Abydonians ascended in the very same episode that they do ascend. Anubis destroys Abydos but they want to check and make sure there are no survivors, so the SGC tries to dial the gate. They fail a bunch of times but keep trying anyway. Then, miraculously, the gate connects. SG-1 goes through and finds everything exactly as it was, as if nothing happened to Abydos. Skaara shows up, explains things to O'Neill and the others, and then does the glowy ascended being thing. SG-1 turns to go back through the gate with the knowledge that their friends are still out there, looking out for them as ascended beings. Jack turns back to where the Abydonian settlement was but is surprised to find that it's completely vanished. In fact, everything has vanished except for the gate. The ascended beings' power basically recreated Abydos so Skaara and the others could give their message to SG-1, then they reverted Abydos into the barren husk that Anubis made it after they left.

Anyway, I thought "Origin" was kind of so-so. I liked a lot of things about it, namely:

- Daniel's "Daniel-ness" while trying to reason with the Doci. Man, that whole conversation took me back to seasons 2 and 3, when Daniel was much less of the warrior archetype he's become and much more of the naive genius he started out as.

- Gerak seems like a suitably antagonistic jerk. He should make a good foil for Teal'c and the "good" Jaffa that we know and love, like Bratac and Rak'nor.

- Mitchell going all-out southern on us and talking about his gran'ma with the Prior. Different humor from Jack's, obviously, but I found the country-boy humor pretty funny. I like that he and Teal'c finally began to bond a bit too.

- The whole Crusade angle. I liked the ending speech where the Doci says something along the lines of "we will gather an army and stomp the unbelievers!" to the administrator.

- Immolations are always fun. :)

Of course, there were also things I wasn't so hot on. Mostly, it had to do with how flat the Ori came off. People on another board I frequent have been expressing concern that the Ori are just an upgraded version of the Goa'uld, and I hate to say it, but they may be right. The Ori seemed to just be a new spin on the false god archetype established by the Goa'uld. The Priors and Doci are pretty cool because of the whole religious fanaticism bent, but I don't know how long that'll stay fresh. I hope the Ori will be fleshed out more over the course of this season, but as of right now they're just another variant on a theme.

But hey, they're done with the exposition-filled 3-part opener now, the pieces are all in place, and the team is mostly back to being associated with each other, if not necessarily a true team just yet. I'm looking forward to the off-world stuff, more about the new villains, more about the Ancients, the return of Carter, the official re-forming of SG-1, more development for Mitchell and Landry, and other stuff. There's a lot of material for this season to potentially turn into something great.

P.S. - Anyone else find it odd that the preview for next week's episode featured a shot of Vala with the dialogue "she's back!"? Dude, she never left! :o

[Happenstance]

I quit liked Origin but ive become worried about Mitchell again. I wasnt sure about him before the season started, liked him in the 1st 2 eps but then in this episode he started to annoy me. I didnt like the constant mentioning of the grandma, didnt find it funny at all and I dont want to have to hear an over excited shout from him every few episodes as it wound me up in this one aswell.
Im a massive fan of Stargate so I really do hate complaining about these things but it has to be done.

Saying all that though Im still enjoying the problems the Jaffa are having, its making an interesting side story. The Ori........hmmmm. I agree that they are seeming like a worse version of the Goa'uld but with an ancient/assended twist. Ive always found the bad guys who spout off their religious beliefs the most evil in my eyes (the ones that spring to mind are the guy from Season 3's "Demons" and Season 5's "Red Sky")

[TheCorpulent1]

That guy from "Demons" was such a douche. I really, really hated him.

[LadyVader]

From the Ori bible:
"And on the seventh day Joe Average the believer got zombified! Hollowed are the Ori."

:)
Well... Origin was, ahm... interesting for lack of a better word. We got to know the Ori a bit more and I gotta agree with Daniel. They be scary little s'o'bs. But just like Corpy pointed out, they're basically goa'uld version 2.0. Which is a shame because when the demon thingie possesed that guy to talk to Daniel it said: "We do not require blind faith."
shyeah right! It will be interesting to see if the Ancients react at all to their presence in our galaxy. It's kind of ironic how they claim to be enlightened and yet resort to such crude methods as mass manipulation and religious dogma. Maybe they got the nasty part of the enlightenement, and the Ancients got the good part. :) And I'd like to see how they're gonna try to convert the asgard:
"Hollowed are the... ugggh! You guys are ugly!"
Now that I think about it... those silly Ori have no idea what they're getting into. Coming into a galaxy that has not only humans, but asgards, nox, some left over goa'ulds, grandmas. Seriously now, we'd better be scared for them!
Mitchell - still an O'Neill clone, but with a certain southern flavour.
Teal'c- Hang in there buddy. I'm romanian so I know something about these dictator figures. Sooner or later somebody is gonna execute him. Maybe it's gonna be you!
Vala and Daniel: just shut up and start making babies already.
The General: So classy, so diplomatic, so full of ****, so american. :)
Walter: keep up the good work. You know you're the only reason that place is still runing.

[OobeDoobBenubi]

That guy from "Demons" was such a douche. I really, really hated him.


He's nothing compared to how much of a douche Apophis was


& also I get the feeling Jackson is NOT in Season 6 as he is not on the DVD Cover

[lars573]

Nope here's why

Micheal Shanks, for reasons not known to me, took a year off from SG-1 for season 6. The story was he he got a lethal dose of radiation and was offered a chance to acend, which he took. Thus he didn't die but was gone from our plane. Jonas Quinn (Corin Nemec), the scientist working on the project that got Daniel the radiation dose took his place on SG-1 for season 6. Daniel was forced to un-acend in the same episode where Anubis nukes Abydos. Danny boy attacked Anubis when he said eh was nuking Abydos anyway, breaking a major rule of the acended ancients.

[OobeDoobBenubi]

Bah a whole season without the nerd to drive Jack crazy :down So far the BEST episode I would have to say is in Season 4 called Window Of Opportunity that was just so damn BRILLIANT :up: & for those that dont remember it is the TIME LOOP episode. Where only Teal'C & Jack was stuck in a TIME LOOP. Damn it was so ****ing funny :up:

[lars573]

Watch it first then pass judgement. Jack doesn't say much to Jonas for like 5 episodes. Sure he lets him on the team, but then all he does is scowl at him.

[OobeDoobBenubi]

Hey guys one last question. Is the alien that is on that SG1 ship currently helping Atlantis THOR ?

[Happenstance]

No, I cant be bothered to remember his name but its not Thor

[TheCorpulent1]

The Asgard onboard on the Daedalus is named Hermiod.

Season 6 was actually pretty good, despite Daniel's absence. There were a few slow episodes, but Jonas was a pretty decent character.

[Happenstance]

Yeah Jonas wasnt that bad of a character and I think if he had been in it from the beginning then a lot of people would have liked him but replacing a character as great as Daniel definately made it a hell of a lot harder for him.

[Superfreak]

season 6, although the lack of Daniel was annoying, lay the foundation for season 7 and 8. By far the most touching episodes of the season were the 2 where Daniel visited. One to help Oneill through a number of excecutions and revivals in a sarcauphagus, and later to help Teal'c through hallucinations caused by the repeated removal of his symbiote in order to share it with Bratac so they could both survive. Both episodes were mint, and they all lead to a further understanding of Anubis and the ancients. It needed to happen, and it was done well.


Here's a question, and a consequence of making two SG series at the same time. If the Ori are so powerful bla bla bla bla bla... will their emissaries be invading the Pegasus galaxy aswell? I mean, I'm assuming the the ancients have protected us, and the other humans of the galaxies they seeded and linked by gates. Does it also mean that Pegasus has been exposed to the Ori?

SG1 and Atlantis were totally unfullfilling to me this week. SG-1 was alright, but very little happened, and I feel that the episode was a waste of time and money (by that I mean everything that happened could have been crammed into 2 episodes rather than 3).

Atlantis, great, they got a new character. But that's it. The episode had no other value than that... other than to show that Ford is still crazy.

Let's hope both shows kick it the guts and get rolling as they move into the regular season.

[OobeDoobBenubi]

Ah I figure the most until I can fully catch up I guess Thor asked him to help or something & you know it is to bad they blew up The 0 Neil I would have loved to see Jack bragging about having an alien ship named after him :up: & bah the lack of Daniel don't sound to promising but good to hear this replacement wasnt so bad & hmm Daniel to help Jack all those times eh. I would have figured they'd let Skaara do it.

[Superfreak]

I think daniel ends up with a ship named after him too

[LadyVader]

And not just any ship, Thor's flagship. :)

[OobeDoobBenubi]

I think daniel ends up with a ship named after him too


Sweet as Jack would say

"Gotta love those guys" - The Asgards

[Dr Doom]

Anybody else find it weird that Daniel wasn't really concerned that the people whose bodies they were in were burned to death?

[LadyVader]

YEAH! I noticed that too. But it wasn't really Daniel's fault as a character, just really bad writing. However, their friend ( I forgot his name, who conspired with them) said that they were ready to give their lives for their cause. I think that coment was meant to take off the sting a bit, but still... such disregard for human lives. :(

[Happenstance]

I noticed it for a bit but just the scene with him and Jack saying he was scared made it up for me

[OobeDoobBenubi]

What is up with the crappy show introduction for Season 5 ?

[TheCorpulent1]

What is up with the crappy show introduction for Season 5 ?
What's different about it? I thought it was the same as the previous 4 seasons, but I haven't seen it in a while. Oh well, however bad it is, season 6's revamp of the opening credits makes up for it. :)

[Happenstance]

What's different about it? I thought it was the same as the previous 4 seasons, but I haven't seen it in a while. Oh well, however bad it is, season 6's revamp of the opening credits makes up for it. :)

Yeah I do love the season 6 opening credits. Although I also did love seeing the wormhole in O'Neills eye in the early seasons

[OobeDoobBenubi]

The season 5 intro so far is just the zoom out revealing a wide shot of a statue. It makes the music very boring :down

[Happenstance]

Its the opening from the movie aswell

[TheCorpulent1]

And the first few episodes of season 1, if I remember correctly. The season 6 credits get much better, though. There are crazy angles of the gate with the chevron wheel spinning around each of the actors' faces and stuff. It's great.

I always thought the wormhole in O'Neill's eye was kind of corny. I prefer the later version, with the F302 zooming off into hyperspace followed by the SG-1 logo.

[OobeDoobBenubi]

For season 4 it switched between the normal opening credits then around around mid season switched to the statue thingy.


Wow I am on the episode that introduces Dr. Mckay from Atlantis & damn he is an ass :down

[lars573]

Not only is he an ass, but an ass with a shi-te hair cut. He should sue the guy who gave him that.

[TheCorpulent1]

Yeah, but he gets much, much better. ;)

[OobeDoobBenubi]

I like his personality in Atlantis but damn I did not imagine he would start off as a Jack Ass :down

[TheCorpulent1]

Well, he's still a bit of a jackass in Atlantis, isn't he? He does get toned down a bit so it's not so extreme though.

[LadyVader]

The one he has now isn't much better. He trimmed it a bit since season one.

[TheCorpulent1]

Yeah, it seems no one on Stargate can keep their hair long. First Daniel chopped it all off, then Sam did for a while, then McKay. It's like a hair epidemic. :eek:

[Superfreak]

Yeah, it seems no one on Stargate can keep their hair long. First Daniel chopped it all off, then Sam did for a while, then McKay. It's like a hair epidemic. :eek:

or they're all in a military environment, where it is logical to have short hair. But that's just my opinion.

What was the episode with the 3 scientists who go rogue to save SG-1 from an apparent kiddnapping? It's the episode where Oneill and Tealc talk about hockey?

[LadyVader]

Yeah, it seems no one on Stargate can keep their hair long. First Daniel chopped it all off, then Sam did for a while, then McKay. It's like a hair epidemic. :eek:

It all balances out. Teal'c stopped shaving his hair, didn't he? :)

@ Superfreak: I think you're talking about "The other guys" from season 6.

[lars573]

Well, he's still a bit of a jackass in Atlantis, isn't he? He does get toned down a bit so it's not so extreme though.

IMO there are 2 things that led to McKay being less of a jackass.
1.Being shipped to Russia for 2 years to develop their naquada generators
2.Nearly being blowed up real good with the rest of earth when Anubis pulls ome ancient trick to turn the stargate into a bomb in season 6's 2 episode.

That and being on Atlantis for a year. And being shut down by Carter constantly.

[darkdaz]

I hope there is going to be more stuff about camalot this season. Can't believe Mitchill left Excalabur in that hill place. No point having it in one episode.

[TheCorpulent1]

Daniel points out that that wasn't Excalibur. I have a feeling Excalibur is gonna be some crazy Ancient piece of technology that gives SG-1 an advantage against the Ori.

[OobeDoobBenubi]

Hey guys when does Anibus die ? I'm on Season 6 & he is really starting to annoy me as much as Apophis did :eek:

[Happenstance]

Why cant you ever just watch anything for yourself???

[lars573]

Hey guys when does Anibus die ? I'm on Season 6 & he is really starting to annoy me as much as Apophis did :eek:

Towards the end of season 8 that's when.

[OobeDoobBenubi]

Bah the bastard lives longer then Apophis :down & I have a bad feeling that Apophis isnt dead either. He has magically escaped very similiar death situations before. Good god I hope I am wrong.

[TheCorpulent1]

Anubis is better than Apophis because he's tied into the Ancients, at least.

[OobeDoobBenubi]

I figured Anubis killed any / all of the Ancients he ever came across. I can't imagine some ass like that actually being PART of the Ancients. I guess you can tell I have not come across those episodes yet. But I will soon enough.

[lars573]

Anubis is an acended being like Daniel was. Oma helped him along not knowing what a complete asshat that he was (even more so than all the other Goa'ulds). Basically Anubis works under some rules, which if he steps out of line will have "the others" (the acended ancients as a whole) come and put the smack down on him. In fact it's Oma who kills him in the end. SG-1 can't do it he's to different/above them. Those rules are he can't use the acended knowledge for his own personal gain. He can only access what any other Goa'uld could find and/or learn.

[TheCorpulent1]

Just keep watching, you'll see it all unravel and Anubis' deal will become clearer.

[OobeDoobBenubi]

Don't you guy's just love it when Thor would come out of no where & Jack's greeting's would alway's be somewhat hilarious to him :up: Especially that one part where Jack offered to take Thor fishing that one time imagine that eh. Also in what episode does Jackson get a ship named after him ?

[lars573]

Season 8 premiere. Where Thor hatches O'Neill from his hiberantion tube in Antartica. At the end of season 7 he dosed himself with the ancient database again to save the world from Anubis.

[OobeDoobBenubi]

Cool thanks & you know it is going to suck now the next time Thor shows up no Jack greetings :(

[Happenstance]

In fact it's Oma who kills him in the end. SG-1 can't do it he's to different/above them. Those rules are he can't use the acended knowledge for his own personal gain. He can only access what any other Goa'uld could find and/or learn.

Anubis isnt actually dead, just locked in a never ending battle with Oma

[darkdaz]

Still not had the furlings or whater on this show. You know from the 4 races alliance.
Anchient, Asgard, Nox, Furling never seen them. More nox would be cool too.

[Superfreak]

Still not had the furlings or whater on this show. You know from the 4 races alliance.
Anchient, Asgard, Nox, Furling never seen them. More nox would be cool too.

I have this feeling that the alliance of 5 races, now 4, with us humans as the new fifth, will come into play this season (well, I think it will come into play with the advance of the Ori plot, b/c I'm assuming the Nox, Furlings, Asgard are in equal amounts of danger).

Anubis is badass, and that's all i have to say about that. He's way better than apophis ever was as a villain. Anubis 'dies' in the 3rd last episode of season 8. He doesn't die, but is rather trapped in eternal battle with another ancient we've met. As someone pointed out, Anubis is tied to the ancients, and he's the villain that drives our heros to seek out the ancients, the lost city, atlantis, avalon, the ancient brain library, the drones, ascension, the Ori bla blb blbalblablba

Anubis is very important

[TheCorpulent1]

I was thinking that the alliance might have something to do with the current season too. It's pretty obvious that the SGC's gonna need as much help as they can get against the Ori.
Season 8 premiere. Where Thor hatches O'Neill from his hiberantion tube in Antartica. At the end of season 7 he dosed himself with the ancient database again to save the world from Anubis.
Yeah, Thor intended on having a ship named after Jack, but Carter blew it up before it ever left the Asgard homeworld in an attempt to stop the Replicators. So Thor ended up with the Daniel Jackson. :D

[lars573]

Anubis isnt actually dead, just locked in a never ending battle with Oma

Well they didn't say that. Alos I'm not going to see season 9 for a while anyway.

[TheCorpulent1]

They did say that, actually.

Daniel rushes Anubis but goes right through him.
ANUBIS: There's nothing you can do. You don't have the power.
OMA: But I do.
ANUBIS: You can't kill me either.
OMA: I can fight you.
ANUBIS: Well, you can't win.
OMA: It won't matter. You won't be able to do anything but fight me back.

[OobeDoobBenubi]

I was thinking that the alliance might have something to do with the current season too. It's pretty obvious that the SGC's gonna need as much help as they can get against the Ori.

Yeah, Thor intended on having a ship named after Jack, but Carter blew it up before it ever left the Asgard homeworld in an attempt to stop the Replicators. So Thor ended up with the Daniel Jackson. :D


So Carter blows up ANOTHER Alien Ship named after Jack ? Damn she sucks.

[Happenstance]

No she just blows up the one O'Neill ship

[Superfreak]

I believe the canucks of vancouver are superior warriors.... mwahahahahaha I love that line

and just on a side note, as mr.tlrvr is watching the early seasons, he's convinced me to open up my stargate disks...

what's the deal with turkey sandwichs? It just seems to be a reoccuring preference for food among SG members, the plague has even spread to atlantis. Have they ever talked about this in the specials, or behind the scenes on DVDs?

[Superfreak]

I have read of a place where humans do battle in a ring of jello....

Call daniel.

[OobeDoobBenubi]

No she just blows up the one O'Neill ship


Ah okay I passed that episode. It sounded like she blew up ANOTHER ship named 0'Neil & yes I am watching the earlier seasons I am a NOOBIE to SG1 & am on Season 6. I await the future episode for Carter to blow up The Daniel Jackson with a stupid idea :up:

Hey never know it can be a tradition for Carter now to blow up any Asgard ship with a stupid idea named after any SG1 team member :up:

[Superfreak]

carter's gift is making things go boom

[OobeDoobBenubi]

Carter's Gift ? What Gift ? & Teal'C does not have a Symbiote anymore

SWEET :up:

[lars573]

We should try to compile a list of the things Carter has blowed up real good. I can only think of a few things
1.The most advanced Asgrad ship at that time (season 4) which was also named after O'Neill
2.A sun

[OobeDoobBenubi]

Wasn't she the one (with the help of McKay & Jonas) that came up with a plan to blow up an Asteroid & an Stargate & I tell ya guys she WILL blow up The Daniel Jackson just wait & see :up:

[Superfreak]

Wasn't she the one (with the help of McKay & Jonas) that came up with a plan to blow up an Asteroid & an Stargate & I tell ya guys she WILL blow up The Daniel Jackson just wait & see :up:

I don't think they destroyed it, just sent it through hyperspace for a few seconds


Carter, Claymore's, first episode, the anubis superweapon (with jack, the SW rip off which was beautiful), Anubis' Goauld queen, she fired a missile at one of the Anubis Superwarriors (that was cool)

[OobeDoobBenubi]

Can you be more specific as to which first episode is that ?

[Happenstance]

Actually the 2nd official episode with the claymores

[Superfreak]

in the series opener I think, when they're retreating from the gravel hill towards the gate on chulac, she doesn't actually blow them up, my bad, but she does set them up

she also blows up a mothership construction yard with daniel's help

[Happenstance]

I dont think the claymores would count anyway, its way too small. I mean they use claymores in quite a few eps aswell as grenades.

I guess you could count all the C4 she and daniel planted on Klorels ship in the season 1 finale to blow up both motherships

[OobeDoobBenubi]

I hope they let Carter blow up more stuff when she returns in Season 9 :up:

[Superfreak]

I also think that an alternate carter blows herself up with a frag grenade in one of the magic mirror episodes

[OobeDoobBenubi]

Oh yeah she blew up the entire Alternate Reality SGC Base :up:

[Happenstance]

No she didnt, it was one grenade and took out her and the jaffa in the conference room

[OobeDoobBenubi]

Close enough :supes:

[Happenstance]

Yeah im sure it is, one explosion taking out one room out of loads on all the floors that are in the SGC

[OobeDoobBenubi]

Hey she killed evil Teal'C to :supes:

[Happenstance]

No she didnt, the self destruct set by Katherine Langford did that

[OobeDoobBenubi]

You know Daniel in the Season 6 finale reminds me alot of Star Wars Episode 4 Old Obi Wan :up:

[Superfreak]

yes she did, she goes 'oh yeah' after handing the remote to the mirror to the jaffa 'I'd also like to blow us all to hell' Boom

[OobeDoobBenubi]

Hmmmm I am watching Season 7 finale & there was NO mention in the Season 6 finale that Oma was in an Eternal Battle with Anubis. That guy is still at large.

[Happenstance]

yes she did, she goes 'oh yeah' after handing the remote to the mirror to the jaffa 'I'd also like to blow us all to hell' Boom

What was that "yes she did" in reference to?

[Superfreak]

yeah, I'm all wacked out, missed a couple of posts

[Happenstance]

Hmmmm I am watching Season 7 finale & there was NO mention in the Season 6 finale that Oma was in an Eternal Battle with Anubis. That guy is still at large.

Nobody said she did it in season 7

[Happenstance]

yeah, I'm all wacked out, missed a couple of posts

Lol, doesnt matter. Just wanted to make sure you didnt think id got something wrong :P

[Superfreak]

Nobody said she did it in season 7

you know, to look back, season 8 was really quite good. A couple of arcs which ended a bunch of things. I think it might be my favorite season so far. The climax of the season (not the finale) was wicked awesome, especially the threeway (battle).

I'm just rambling here.

But here's a thought. Senator Kinsey. It's too bad that he got Goaulded. Infact I think it was a poor choice. Imagine Kinsey confronted by an Ori Preacher. I think that would have been the best way to really sketch out Kinsey's character.

[Happenstance]

Kinsey annoyed the hell out of me, much worse of a bad guy than any goa'uld and I was glad to see him finally taken out. I think it was just everytime he started going on about "God's Will" that i wanted to take him out with a P90 myself :P

Yeah season 8 was a good season, it was a shame not having Jack go off world every ep but he still got enough screen time for me. I think "Threads" was a season highlight for me, good closure on a lot of things and Daniel appearing back at the SGC at the end (although he seemed to remember what had gone on which he shouldnt have)

[OobeDoobBenubi]

You know the Season 7 premiere sure did have a similiar space fight to a certain Star Wars movie :up:

[TheCorpulent1]

Season 8 wasn't as bad as I felt it was initially. It was better than season 7, at any rate. The Earth-based stories were more interesting in season 8, anyway, and seeing Jack as a general added an interesting new dimension to it. My favorite season remains either 3 or 4, though.

[OobeDoobBenubi]

I agree that Kinsey is / was a JACK ASS. I can't wait to see how they finish off his character. Thor should have just beamed him to another planet like Jack suggested when Thor meeted with all the governments to save General Hammonds & SGC commands ass & it was cool how Thor did get to shut him up :up:

[Superfreak]

I agree that Kinsey is / was a JACK ASS. I can't wait to see how they finish off his character. Thor should have just beamed him to another planet like Jack suggested when Thor meeted with all the governments to save General Hammonds & SGC commands ass & it was cool how Thor did get to shut him up :up:

kinsey is a jackass, that was his job. And his 'i like god' rants were great contrast to what the SGC stands for. And I just think that his character would have been quite useful when dealing with the Ori (as a villain, or a goodguy).

Like what a mess (and what a great arc it would create) if Kinsey was confronted by an Ori missionary, and converted thinking that the Ori are God... and he becomes an Ori agent on earth. That would be such a great arc.

conversely, they could have taken Kinsey in the opposite direction, having him as the lead in the government who rejects the Ori because they are not representatives of the almighty god.

Kinsey was a great character, who portrayal commented on the fundamentalism going on in the western world.... he is obviously the GWBush of the series... and I would have liked to see him in confrontation with the Ori. I still think turning him into a goauld was a mistake, because there is so much potential to flush his character out with this new villain.

[LadyVader]

Like anybody back then thought Stargate would reach a 9th season. :)

[Superfreak]

Like anybody back then thought Stargate would reach a 9th season. :)

um, last season?

[LadyVader]

Hmm... I think my memory is playing tricks on me. I thought Kinsey got the goa'uld-ed back in season 6. :)

[Happenstance]

Nope that was Col Simmons

[OobeDoobBenubi]

um, last season?


I think Stargate SG1 can go on for one more Season if not then it is obvious some if not all of SG1 will simply be transferred to Atlantis :up: But with that new SG1 leader guy if he turns out good I think it is safe to say SG1 has a few more seasons left in it if not then like I said some if not all of SG1 can head on over to Atlantis. I know Daniel will in the end.

[Happenstance]

I dont think any of them would transfer over to Atlantis, they wanted it to be its own show and that would never happen if it has big SG1 actors.

I think with the Ori appearing it could keep the show going for a few more seasons if its written well, Id hate to see them wiped out within one season as they have potential to be a good new advesary

[OobeDoobBenubi]

Well remember Daniel originally was gonna GO to Atlantis in the first episode of Season 9 on that new ship. So I am sure when they are done he will still have that offer.

[Happenstance]

Yeah they wrote it in a few times that he wanted to go but as I said its all about the showing standing up on its own two feet and adding Daniel to the cast wouldnt help that.

[OobeDoobBenubi]

Better then cancelling SG1 :up:

[Superfreak]

Hmm... I think my memory is playing tricks on me. I thought Kinsey got the goa'uld-ed back in season 6. :)

that's umpossible. Kinsey was VP at the time of the Anubis invasion: last episode of season 7. He got goaulded in season 8 after the Rogue NID mishap

[OobeDoobBenubi]

This Space Race episode of Season 7 is creeping me out :up:

[Happenstance]

Didnt particularly like that episode, one of their average ones.

[OobeDoobBenubi]

Why do I get the feeling that Season 7 has alot of filler episodes & not really much story stuff :down

[Happenstance]

Right ive decided on a storyline for the new season. The Ori preachers come to our galaxy to try and convert everyone then move onto the Asgards galaxy. Somehow the preacher manages to convert all the Asgard except for Thor who then dons a bandana and 2 P90s to take on the Ori with SG1.

Whos with me!!!!!!

[OobeDoobBenubi]

So the Ori has ALL humans & Asgard on their sides & Thor makes a big boom ? Hmmm seems like something he'd do. But if that was the case then I am sure he would have done the same with the Replicators wouldnt he & you know hard to believe that I guess you can say a secondary character like Thor would be one of the most likeable characters on the show for one that ony appears when needed :up: Although it certainly will not be the same with no Jack to say things like "Thor Buddy How You Doin" & also wouldn't that big boom kill the ones brainwashed ? I doubt the humans would allow that.

[Happenstance]

Who said anything about a big boom??? I said he'd go rambo on the Ori with SG1 and I never said that they would win. Plus it was a JOKE!!!

[OobeDoobBenubi]

Well the big boom would be more likely then going rambo. I can picture that with another stupid idea from Carter & Daniel. Hey it worked before. I am sure Thor will come up sooner or later this season to find out about this new threat :up:

[TheCorpulent1]

Why do I get the feeling that Season 7 has alot of filler episodes & not really much story stuff :down
It mostly is. I think "Fallen," "Homecoming," "Orpheus," "Heroes," "Inauguration," and "Lost City" were the only really good episodes of that season. The others were either average or kind of lame.

[OobeDoobBenubi]

I hear ya I am on the Xena type episode with the chicks. Season 8 BETTER be good.

[Happenstance]

Or what? You'll stop posting about it on here?

OH NO!!!!

[Superfreak]

I hear ya I am on the Xena type episode with the chicks. Season 8 BETTER be good.

yeah, there was a lot of crap during season 7, but the finale more than makes up for it. I just remember when the season aired for the first time... all season one had to wait for the inevitable finale. And it payed off, then SG got renewed

[LadyVader]

hey, don't knock season 7. We got Daniel back, and he was nekkid! :) No flag or nothing, just a convenient non-revealing crouched position.

[Happenstance]

hey, don't knock season 7. We got Daniel back, and he was nekkid! :) No flag or nothing, just a convenient non-revealing crouched position.

Lol, well to be honest that wasnt the highlight of the season for me. You just have to love the battle at the end of the season, easily the best visuals in the entire show for me

[LadyVader]

You got your visuals... and I got my visuals

http://www.stripdaniel.com/images/stripdanielB.jpg

:D

[OobeDoobBenubi]

If Jack became a general then how come he is not controlling Stargate Command ? I am sure Thor would have gladly come to earth again & help Jack get that position :up: Like the way Thor saved Hammonds position from the studpid Japanese & jack ass Kinsey (who I can't wait to see die or w/e happens to him

[Superfreak]

he does, and thor does too

[OobeDoobBenubi]

Very Cool


But I wonder why it didn't work though. I guess Jack said no for personal reasons. Nice to know Thor tries & I thought that the most even the president would want Jack in command. Can anyone tells me what happens & how Thor tries to help Jack get in command & why Jack ultimately does not get command ? Please don't say Kinsey had something to do with it.

[Superfreak]

he doesn't really. Jack is given command after thor brings him back to life. Weir promotes him, and he is given General Hammonds old job.

in a later episode, Thor shows up, and him and Oneill do some joyriding in the asgard transporter beam, beaming to meetings and stuff. That was a fun episode, early in season 8

[OobeDoobBenubi]

LMFAO Thor & Jack beaming to meetings ROFL. I can just imagine :)


So did Jack give up command or something & also I take it the General retires it seems.


I can't wait to see this episode look's like it will be my #1 favorite episode next to the 10 / 12 hour time loop one where Jack & Teal'c gets stuck in.

[Superfreak]

General Hammond gets promoted, he is currently the big cheese at the Deparment of Homeworld security, Jack becomes General in charge of the SGC, Weir goes to Atlantis, and this season (9) Jack has stepped down as SGC commander and we don't really know what he's doing, just that he's left the SGC

[OobeDoobBenubi]

That is definitely something Jack would not do even General Hammond never left willingly (well until he got promoted that I dont blame him). I'm hoping there is some larger plan at work here. Stargate SG1 is definitely not the type of show to leave character plots unfinished. Jack would NEVER leave the SGC just like that. Sure he visits them but I dont know know. This doesnt seem very Jack 0 Neil.

[Superfreak]

That is definitely something Jack would not do even General Hammond never left willingly (well until he got promoted that I dont blame him). I'm hoping there is some larger plan at work here. Stargate SG1 is definitely not the type of show to leave character plots unfinished. Jack would NEVER leave the SGC just like that. Sure he visits them but I dont know know. This doesnt seem very Jack 0 Neil.

RDA is old man... he had to leave sooner or later. I'm sure he'll be back for cameo visits, and I'm pretty sure that when the series wraps up (whenever that is) that RDA will be a major part of it (unless he's dead)

[OobeDoobBenubi]

I'm sure RDA will definitely be part of the big finale when that time comes. It would be a crime against humanity if he isnt. Him & Thor definitely need to be a part of it no matter what :up: & LOL Sam was humming the Stargate theme in an elevator in one episode

[OobeDoobBenubi]

Hey guys does Kinsey bite the dust ? If so when ? He is really starting to piss me off now more then ever (Season 7 Finale)

You know I got to say I like that new President. He pissed off Anubis & Kinsey (not to mention fire him) all in the same day :up: & he has humor which is always good :up: Him & Thor should definitely get along :up: I liked it when the President told Kinsey

"I have got enough evidence to have your ass shot" :up:

[Happenstance]

Yes Kinsey does in season 8

[TheCorpulent1]

It's not certain that Kinsey's dead. A pretty crappy fate does befall him, though.

As for RDA, I think his season 9 appearances have been very poorly done. He's made token appearances in the first and third episodes but nothing was resolved with his character. All we know from what they've shown us is that Jack and General Landry, the new SGC commander, are friends, Jack got promoted from a brigadier general to a 2-star general, and Jack is no longer in charge of the SGC. We don't know where he's gone, why he stepped down, what he's doing now, etc. It's a very weak send-off for a character who basically made the show for a good 6 years.

[Happenstance]

Yeah they definately need to show us more info on O'Neill, so far hasnt been good enough at all. Im happy that he's appeared but his only worthwhile appearence for me so far was the conversation with Daniel

[OobeDoobBenubi]

So I am on Season 8 what episode 5 /6 . What is the Thor & Jack joyriding one & hey give it time for Jack. I am sure they want to give the new guy some room first to get used to everything & all. Give it time it is still early in the Season.

[Happenstance]

I dont thin you understand what we are talking about. We dont need loads of appearences from him as we understand that RDA left to spend more time with his daughter. What we want is the simple information on why O'Neill left the SGC and what he is doing now. RDA isnt even needed for that, just someone mentioning it in conversation

[OobeDoobBenubi]

Okay so what Season 8 episode is the Thor & Jack joyriding episode ? :up:

[Superfreak]

I can't remember, it's only a short little scene, but it's a good one.

[OobeDoobBenubi]

Most of Thor's scene always seem to have somewhat humor in them. Especially when Jack's mind controlled The Daniel Jackson :up: Well I'll be on the look out for it. I am on the episode now with Teal'C in the Training Simulator seems to be quite neat.

[Dr Doom]

Daniel's crazy, I would've hit that :D

[OobeDoobBenubi]

Does anyone find it odd that 2 key members from Andromeda has been in / cameoed in Stargate Sg1 ? :up:

[Dr Doom]

And 2 key members of Farscape.

[OobeDoobBenubi]

Hey Super I think I am on that episode. Thor wanted to get something nice for the President of the US & he beams Jack & him to the meeting. Is this what you were talking about ? Damn we dont see that meeting. That meeting could have provided some good humor this episode :down

[OobeDoobBenubi]

LMFAO Just finished the episode where Daniel first meets that chick from Farscape. Nice intro for her there :up:

[LadyVader]

Great humoros episode and of course my favourite scene is when Daniel thought the supersoldier was coming on to him and had that "WTF!?" look on his face, followed by the little cough.

classic.

[Superfreak]

enough Vala already, Neat character and all, but I'd rather see the season get moving. And yes, Daniel is slightly thick... he should have tapped that ass, especially when she was prancing around in the orange panties and T

now I'm sure that they were implying that Mitchell and the Dr. were making out in the elevator? I'm sure everybody else noticed that.

I just feel that after such a vague, and frankly, slightly dull season opener we'd get something a little more substancial one the season started off with it's regular episodes...

Atlantis was humorous but nothing more

[Happenstance]

SG1 was ok this week but nothing amazing. As usual the Daniel/Vala chemistry was great.
Now I liked Mitchell in the 1st episode but since then he is slowly starting to annoy me now to the point where everytime he has a line I just wince

[TheCorpulent1]

SG-1
Decent episode.

I liked:

- Michael Shanks' comedic performance of Daniel Jackson's utter frustration when he's in Vala's presence.
- The smuggler-turned-priest.
- The space battle.
- The fact that the episode was just one big roundabout with an anti-climax at the end. Kind of mirrored Daniel's own frustration with Vala by making the episode's non-conclusion frustrating for us viewers. I thought that was clever.
- The possible homage to Farscape's pulse pistols. Vala's gun looked awfully similar.
- There were a few giggle-worthy jokes scattered about.

Didn't like:

- Vala's return to being one-dimensional and innuendo-driven.
- The complete squandering of an opportunity to deepen Vala's character at the hearing by elucidating for the government dude exactly what's out there in the big, bad galaxy to show him how utterly naive he is to believe Earth is capable of defending itself from everything. That snicker in her glass held a promise of development but nope, just turned out to be a segue to more clichéd sexual jokes.
- Mitchell and Teal'c might as well not have even been in this episode. They were tag-alongs to Daniel and Vala 100%.
- The Jack mention. How about someone just tells us where the hell Jack is and what he's doing now instead of dropping crytpic junk like this? We know now that he's a superior to Landry in some way, since I doubt a subordinate's going to bat for Landry would have any impact on the SGC's funding. We know that he's off doing something.... somewhere. Great.

Atlantis
Awesome episode. I've always loved the Stargate franchise's lighter moments. Some of my favorite episodes are hilarious stand-alones like "Window of Opportunity," and "Duet" was a great addition to Stargate's repertoire of those episodes.

Likes:

- David Hewlett's performance. He acts surprisingly well as a woman.
- Dex's badassery. The shooting range scene in particular was great.
- McKay and Cadman's antics were a lot of fun.
- The recovery of a Wraith dart! Hmm, methinks future plot points are a-brewin'.
- The nice save they did with Zelenka's apparently dumbass move to rematerialize one of the two lifesigns on the spot rather than just going back through the gate, getting a Naquadah generator, and supplying enough power to the dart to rematerialize both. Apparently the transformer that enables the dart to interface with power units was busted.
- Cadman's hotness. :D

Dislikes:

- None, really. Great ep. :up:

So, I'm ok with Vala although she's starting to annoy me again, but I'm really just counting down the weeks until Carter's return. I can't wait to see the team come together again as an actual, cohesive unit. That should hopefully return the team interaction that made the show so great initially and eliminate the current feeling that everyone else is just tagging along on the Daniel & Vala Variety Hour.

[Happenstance]

- The complete squandering of an opportunity to deepen Vala's character

I think next weeks episode should hopefully deepend Valas character by the sound of it

- The Jack mention. How about someone just tells us where the hell Jack is and what he's doing now instead of dropping crytpic junk like this? We know now that he's a superior to Landry in some way, since I doubt a subordinate's going to bat for Landry would have any impact on the SGC's funding. We know that he's off doing something.... somewhere. Great.


Yeah i agree with you here, if it was something big they were holding back to leave suspense for the rest of the season then fine but at the moment all we need to know is why Jack left the SGC and what he's doing now. I mean when we left him last season it had been suggested that he go Civilian and stay with the SGC so he could be with Carter. Now I know that the PTB have said nothing will ever happen with those 2 but we need some proper explanations for whats happening with RDA rather than just accepting that hes gone.

[TheCorpulent1]

I doubt he's a civilian since he was still wearing his dress uniform as of "Origin." And even if it is being intentionally drawn out to create suspense, I think that's a really terrible call. The people behind the show know that Jack commands a HUGE following, so it seems like it'd be in their best interests to get the information out there as quickly as possible and reassure those fans that Jack is there, doing his thing, and the SGC is moving on under his watchful eye. That'd establish the new status quo while retaining Jack as a part of the show and open the potential for future guest appearances, which would be welcomed by all fans, I imagine.
I think next weeks episode should hopefully deepend Valas character by the sound of it
Yeah, it looks that way. More information about her time as a Goa'uld host should lead to more depth in the character, but the powers that be seem to keep snapping her right back to the shallow facade she puts forth, so I don't know how much that depth will be worth. Time will tell.

[Happenstance]

I doubt he's a civilian since he was still wearing his dress uniform as of "Origin."

Oh yeah i know he isnt a civilian, I just meant that was something he was thinking about at the end of last season then by the start of this one he's left the job he loves and his friends and we get no explanation why. At least we got the full story when Hammond had to step down.

EDIT: Now that i think about it the whole reason Hammond was replaced was to put a friendly face on the SGC, enter Weir. Then she leaves and they put Jack in charge because he would be probably the only Airforce person capable of commanding the SGC and being popular whenever it goes public.

Now with him leaving its like they have basically forgotten about the reasoning behind it altogether and gone back to another general

[OobeDoobBenubi]

Neat Daniel can control the Replicator's :up: Well not perfectly but he has the idea at least :up:

[TheCorpulent1]

Oh yeah i know he isnt a civilian, I just meant that was something he was thinking about at the end of last season then by the start of this one he's left the job he loves and his friends and we get no explanation why. At least we got the full story when Hammond had to step down.

EDIT: Now that i think about it the whole reason Hammond was replaced was to put a friendly face on the SGC, enter Weir. Then she leaves and they put Jack in charge because he would be probably the only Airforce person capable of commanding the SGC and being popular whenever it goes public.

Now with him leaving its like they have basically forgotten about the reasoning behind it altogether and gone back to another general
I noticed that too. I guess President Hayes abandoned the idea of going public with the Stargate anytime soon.

[OobeDoobBenubi]

At least Jack is still PART of The Air Force


So I guess it is safe to say Daniel died & came back the most in this series followed closely by Jack & hmmmmm after episode 18 of Season 8 it kind of feels like Jack was almost threaten to retire / leave SGC based on that one chick who he dated for one episode that was part of the CIA. Almost like she was I guess you can say giving him a some what future warning. There may be hope yet for Richard Dean Anderson's character. Call me crazy if you want but knowing this show what that chick said & how she kept on smiling about it thing's are not over yet & I highly HIGHLY doubt that Richard Dean Anderson would allow HIS character which is VERY IMPORTANT to his show have no PROPER / REAL ending / send off.

[lars573]

Actually RDA has retired from acting. He said so on the Spacey's this year. It was the first thing out of his mouth after he got his award, he then rambled on about nothing for 20 minutes.

[OobeDoobBenubi]

I find it hard to believe he would just quit Stargate like that :down at least give his damn character some closure.

[Superfreak]

it'll come sooner or later... first things first, 4 epis, and no carter

[OobeDoobBenubi]

I'm still pissed we never saw that meeting with Jack, Thor, & The President :down

[lars573]

I find it hard to believe he would just quit Stargate like that :down at least give his damn character some closure.

Well the only reason that RDA was even in season 8 was because the producers (I can't remember their names) bugged and pleaded for months for him not to just up and leave. He agreed to go from a starring to recuring role for 1 more season then take it from their. This time he's just gone.

it'll come sooner or later... first things first, 4 epis, and no carter
Amanda Tapping=pregnant. While at the end of season 8 they could hide it via baggy unifroms now she's either far enough along that to hide it you'd need her behind a desk for the first bunch of eps or she be on maternity leave. Keep in mind that the new season began production in like March and I only heard of her having a little girl in June.

[Superfreak]

Well the only reason that RDA was even in season 8 was because the producers (I can't remember their names) bugged and pleaded for months for him not to just up and leave. He agreed to go from a starring to recuring role for 1 more season then take it from their. This time he's just gone.


Amanda Tapping=pregnant. While at the end of season 8 they could hide it via baggy unifroms now she's either far enough along that to hide it you'd need her behind a desk for the first bunch of eps or she be on maternity leave. Keep in mind that the new season began production in like March and I only heard of her having a little girl in June.

I know that, and don't care

[lars573]

Yes you do care your wondering where Carter is and that is where she is, gone.

[OobeDoobBenubi]

Isn't Carter supposed to come back soon ?

[Happenstance]

Shes back fully in episode 6 this season

[LadyVader]

The ties that bind
Sweet Irony, thy name is woman! Hehe. :)
This whole episode was centered around ironic situations:
- Daniel is forced to live with Vala, a woman he despises.
- Daniel, Vala, Mitchell and Teal'c go through all that trouble, for nothing
- Stargate Command is losing out to Stargate Atlantis, which is located a billion gillion miles away, in other galaxy!
- For once, the civillians get to kick some ass, though most of the times in this show civilian organisation have been the shtooopid bad guys, that don't know what's good for them. Now that is ironic!

[OobeDoobBenubi]

I highly HIGHLY doubt Vala will become a key character of the show. All will be well again when Sam comes back & Vala will go home & come back for visits when she needs something & makes you wonder with most of the money going to Atlantis it is safe to say Daniel will eventually end up there as he IS a civilian after all & if it were NOT for him there would be NO Atlantis. Makes you wonder what is going to happen after that second Gate once SG1 is done.

[TheCorpulent1]

I'm really looking forward to Sam's return. The few episodes so far have been all right, but I didn't notice how much Carter contributed to the series until I had to watch this many episodes without her in them. 2 more weeks, though. Then Carter returns and SG-1 can finally become SG-1 again.

[Happenstance]

I dont think the return of Carter will fix the show for me, ive been enjoying it still but I just dont like Mitchell now. Hopefully with the return of Carter it will help the show (for me at least) but I doubt it. Obviously I will still watch and SG1 is my fav show on at the moment.

MvTrlrMsc you do realise that Daniel is a CHARACTER IN A SHOW dont you? If Michael Shanks doesnt want to go over to Atlantis once SG1 finally finishes no amount of you explaining why Daniel would be there matters at all. And just to clarify, even though money is being taken out of the SGC to be put towards atlantis the earth gate would never be closed. There is the obvious fact that they need it to connect to atlantis without having to send a ship everytime, earth has offworld allies which it contacts using the stargate and there are a lot of mining operations going on off world which wouldnt just stop because the exploration is done. They need trinnium and naquada to say the least.

[OobeDoobBenubi]

Um yes I do know that if Michael doesnt want to do Stargate anymore there wont be no Daniel in Atlantis. I am not stupid / retarded I wish people would learn to NOT just think they are by one post but oh wait it's the internet & that is all it is good for.

[Happenstance]

Well what am I supposed to think, you already stated that you think he will be on Atlantis but you still go on about it. Nearly all of your posts are just pointless, yes we get that you are watching the seasons on dvd but all we hear from you are questions about something you will find out later anyway and hearing you constantly go on about O'Neill and Thor.

[OobeDoobBenubi]

No one is forcing you to answer my questions. You got to learn to IGNORE if not then stay away from here if you have a problem answering questions.

[Happenstance]

I dont have a problem with answering questions. Its just the fact that you were going through the dvds anyway so there didnt seem any point to them.
I quite enjoy answering stargate questions coz i like talking about the show. Id rather get on with you and not have to ignore you but I think its just the way you post that winds me up, you post the littlest things that you've just watched in an episode.

[Superfreak]

Daniel will never make it to atlantis because of the irony. He wanted to go with Weir the first time, jack says nope. He wanted to go on the Daedelus, fate says nope. It'll go on like that... it'll be one of those funny on going jokes. Daniel wants to go to Atl. so badly, but can never ever make it there.

And besides, even though Daniel is the expert on the ancients, he's got bigger fish to fry right now... way bigger than checking out the city. Remember that ascended ancients are way more powerful than coporeal ancients. Daniel has a lot more work to do ever since the introduction of the Ori. There is far more important things for him to learn, discover and aquire in our galaxy and contact with the Ori, than with the expedition team on atlantis

[OobeDoobBenubi]

I bet the government will re consider cutting SG1's budget when the Ori comes to attack earth I'm sure the next few episodes will start the planning stages. Although since these guys arent really the space type enemies should be interesting :up:

[Happenstance]

They are going to be "space type enemies" aswell. You hear them say that they will start building ships.

[OobeDoobBenubi]

Ah yeah okay. But hey once the Ori comes & start attacking & most of earth's stuff end up useless the Ori will in a way help / save Stargate Command then get killed :up:

[LadyVader]

I can't believe the US military can be so retarded though. "We have the technology to build space ships, that's all we need". Jesus Christ man, this world has so many other problems and they're like : "Oh we can go into space now. Whop-dee-doo! ". What about poverty man, what about diseases and wars and the ozone lair, etcetera etcetera etcetera!? You actually think people are gonna care about going into space when they are starving to death!?
What about looking for the technology that can actually make a difference in people's lives?

[lars573]

I would direct your attention to the real NASA. Which spends billions sending probs to Mars, 60% of which fail to even get to the Martian surface. Also they spent 200 million on a probe so they could launch it at a comet to see what would happen.

Besides most of the alien tech the SGC has goten it's hands on is military in nature, or interplanetary travel realted. Really a hyper drive is only good for sapce travel. The most practical thing they have goten is the Naquada generators and they are years away from practical (read powerstation sized) applications. Maybe the anit-grav and crystal computer stuff aswell.

But the biggest hurdle in using these things to better the human race is that it would require NATO and Russia and China to admit that.
1.Aliens have been threating to destroy earth for 9 years and we have only avoided it through blind luck
2.That the religous beliefs of billions of people is based on the whorship of parasitic aliens (Indian Hindus, Chinese and Japanese traditional religions)
3.The US has been representing earth interstellarly for 9 years.

[twylight]

I missed th beginning of the season!

I MISSED IT! :mad:

and I truned it on two weeks ago to find that it's become an Andromeda/Farscape clone. :(

SG:1 is practically dead, there is no interest there for me at all.

And Atlantis..well..they not have the oblicatory, black dreadlocked man. :(

I have fallen in love with Atlantis more and more. *Please scratch any previous Atlantis bashing I did in this thread*:o

Hopefully the rest of the season will be about as good.
and WOW this thread has grwon...

[Happenstance]

Yeah it is starting to see like an Andromeda/Farscape clone but I would give it a chance if I were you.

Vala being in it has really filled the comedic hole since RDA left so far and even though she wont be in it the whole season it definately was great to see her and Daniel bouncing off eachother.

Col Mitchell for me started off ok in the 1st episode but has gone downhill from there. I know a lot of people are actually liking him but I tend to get irritated when he has a line and sometimes just when he appears onscreen.

Im hoping that the show will start to feel more like SG1 when Carter and Teal'c return to the team fulltime and (as ive been going on about) we at least get some information on why O'Neill has left even though it was established at the start of Season 8 why it was only he could be a military commander of the SGC.

[Superfreak]

Yeah it is starting to see like an Andromeda/Farscape clone but I would give it a chance if I were you.

Vala being in it has really filled the comedic hole since RDA left so far and even though she wont be in it the whole season it definately was great to see her and Daniel bouncing off eachother.

Col Mitchell for me started off ok in the 1st episode but has gone downhill from there. I know a lot of people are actually liking him but I tend to get irritated when he has a line and sometimes just when he appears onscreen.

Im hoping that the show will start to feel more like SG1 when Carter and Teal'c return to the team fulltime and (as ive been going on about) we at least get some information on why O'Neill has left even though it was established at the start of Season 8 why it was only he could be a military commander of the SGC.


mitchell is alright,,, what annoying about him is not his fault. All he does is talk talk talk... but the writers are yet to have him do anything. The season opener has been the Daniel and Vala show, with cameo's from mitchell and teal'c. Once they stop this Daniel vs. Vala tripe, then I think we'll actually get to see mitchell do something

[OobeDoobBenubi]

All they need to do is bring back the guy who played Rhade in Andromeda that was in a few episodes of Stargate Sg1's earlier season's then Stargate = Farcaspe & Andromeda all n one.

[Happenstance]

mitchell is alright,,, what annoying about him is not his fault. All he does is talk talk talk... but the writers are yet to have him do anything. The season opener has been the Daniel and Vala show, with cameo's from mitchell and teal'c. Once they stop this Daniel vs. Vala tripe, then I think we'll actually get to see mitchell do something

Im willing to give him another chance but at this point I dont see th character changing enough for me to like, just doing more really

[Superfreak]

Im willing to give him another chance but at this point I dont see th character changing enough for me to like, just doing more really

well, he already got layed by the 4th episode... That's definately faster than RDA got some on the show, or tapping for that matter

[Happenstance]

Lol, well that doesnt make me like him anymore than I did before.

[Emerald Knight]

According to one of my best friends, the show should now be "Fargate" (for all those ATHF geeks out there ;) :cool: ) seeing as how half of the crew as of lately has been half Farscape (Crichton and Aeryn) and half SG-1 (Daniel and Teal'c)

[Superfreak]

Lol, well that doesnt make me like him anymore than I did before.
well, that's one of 2 things he's got going for his character. 1) He's an ex-cripple, and 2) he's a stud

[Happenstance]

Well im sure those are good enough for u. For me they just arent enough :P

I just hope they dont push Carter back too much, so far General Landry keeps going straight to Mitchell even though nearly everyone else at the SGC has loads more experience. Its just a bit stupid.

[Superfreak]

Well im sure those are good enough for u. For me they just arent enough :P

I just hope they dont push Carter back too much, so far General Landry keeps going straight to Mitchell even though nearly everyone else at the SGC has loads more experience. Its just a bit stupid.

Mitchell is all Landry's got. Sam's not there, Jack is gone, Teal'c is gone. Landry has a choice between Daniel and Mitchell. Mitchell is trained, Daniel is a civilian. There is no one else for Landry to turn to when in need of some off world humping.

I think Mitchell will be cool, once they finally get him to do something worthy of his position as second command of the mountain