Stargate SG-1/Atlantis/Universe

[The Caped Knight]

It'll be good to see Shanks on 24 but to be honest im a bit disapointed, just means that theres less chance he'll appear on Atlantis.

For now TPTB made it clear Daniel won't be heading to Atlantis anytime soon . (It kinda funny Daniel was the one on the Quest to find & see The Lost city of The Ancients Atlantis. Yet he hasn't been to Atlantis yet .

Jack has so has Sam and Teal'c will be making an appereance in Atlantis some time in season 4.)

So from the original team of SG-1 Daniel's been left out of the loop .

[Happenstance]

Daniel has been to Atlantis, all of SG1 went in season 10

EDIT: Just remembered Teal'c didnt go with them

[The Caped Knight]

Daniel has been to Atlantis, all of SG1 went in season 10

EDIT: Just remembered Teal'c didnt go with them

:wow: Really what episode ?

[Happenstance]

10x03 - The Pegasus Project

SG-1 visits Atlantis in the hopes of finding a new lead on Merlin's anti-Ori weapon, and find more than they ever expected.

[The Caped Knight]

10x03 - The Pegasus Project

SG-1 visits Atlantis in the hopes of finding a new lead on Merlin's anti-Ori weapon, and find more than they ever expected.

Doh silly me I forgot. that's right :woot: Good episode .

[Superfreak]

last episode ever tonight right?

[Happenstance]

Yep thats right, 50 mins till it starts

[Dr Lee]

only 16 minutes now :(

[Happenstance]

*Sniff* Well its over.

Personally I thought it was a good episode but not as good as it should have been for a season finale. SG1 has produced some great season finales over the years that I expected a bit more.

Still, this one did have some really nice moments in it.

[Sam Fisher]

Spoilers please:woot:

[Superfreak]

yeah, it was a solid episode, but no where near the quality of previous season finales. This one should have been better, as it was the series finale.

Anyhow, it was a great way to see the group before cancellation. A good way to end the series.

Hopefully the movies will help to wrap up the death of the asgard. The defeat of the Ori, and finish up all this fifth race stuff, which we are now officially

[Dr Lee]

Speaking of the movies......

Stargate SG-1: The Ark of Truth-
http://gateworld.net/news/2007/03/new_details_on_the_ark_of_truth.shtml

Stargate SG-1:Continuum-
http://gateworld.net/news/2007/03/sg-1_headed_to_the_arctic.shtml

[Superfreak]

Speaking of the movies......

Stargate SG-1: The Ark of Truth-
http://gateworld.net/news/2007/03/new_details_on_the_ark_of_truth.shtml

Stargate SG-1:Continuum-
http://gateworld.net/news/2007/03/sg-1_headed_to_the_arctic.shtml


sweet, it's funny, how they haven't even stopped production really. They just shifted into a different format. Nice that they start filming in like a month, to get it out by fall.

so Tomin and Vala get back together, and they all go confront the ancients and the Ori (or just Adria, who knows), with the rest of the team, in the Ori galaxy. Sounds cool to me.

As long as we get some bad ass 'the asgard gave us all thier ****' battles

[Reptile]

My brothers friend is one of the Prop guys and he gave us the tour last week of the sets and the prop shop. the only thing that sucked was that we didn't get to see the Stargate, but they said they'd bring us back when its set up.

[Happenstance]

Anderson confirmed for Continuum

Richard Dean Anderson will appear in the upcoming movie Stargate: Continuum, Playback Daily is reporting and executive producer Brad Wright confirmed to GateWorld.

Anderson, who played Jack O'Neill on Stargate SG-1 for eight years before entering semi-retirement, will travel with an 18-person crew to the U.S. Navy's Applied Physics Laboratory Ice Station in the Arctic next week to film scenes for the direct-to-DVD movie (story).

Production resumes in Vancouver on May 22, following shooting for SG-1's first movie, The Ark of Truth.

Written by Wright and directed by Martin Wood, Stargate: Continuum is a stand-alone time travel story that continues the adventures of SG-1 beyond the show's tenth season. The movie is expected to hit DVD shelves in North America this fall.

The SCI FI Channel in the U.S. will air the final 10 episodes of Season Ten -- including a guest appearance by Anderson in "The Shroud" -- starting Friday, April 13!

Taken From Gateworld

[Sam Fisher]

I'm way behind on SG1. Could someone give me a quick rundown of all ten seasons?

[zanos]

A standalone film on time travel? Haven't I seen that ep of SG-1 like a billion times already?

Btw for those that are curious SG-1 ended with a filler episode.

[Happenstance]

It wasnt exactly a filler episode, plus its gone over really well with Stargate fans.

[Happenstance]

Third series is Stargate Universe

The working title of the third Stargate television series has been unveiled! The series currently exists in the form of a one-page treatment of the story and characters, with the title Stargate Universe, executive producer Robert C. Cooper told GateWorld exclusively.

The new series has been conceived to be "a completely separate, third entity," Cooper said in an interview -- "much more so than Atlantis was. Atlantis was much more of a spin-off seires of SG-1 and was sort of born out of SG-1."

Like many of the producers ideas, Cooper said, the idea for Stargate Universe was originally conceived as a stand-alone movie. "When we originally were sitting around talking about this we were trying to come up with ideas for a Stargate feature -- not an SG-1 feature or an Atlantis feature, but a feature that would fit into the Stargate franchise that we feel we have created," Cooper said. "We were thinking, 'How do we create a third arm to the franchise that is very connective and that fans will feel is born out of the material that has come before, but at the same time is very much something that stands alone?'

"When it became clear that a third series was a more realistic possibility at this point from the studio's standpoint, we figured out how to tweak that idea and give it a little more legs than it would have had as a one-off story. We always, in the back of our minds even in coming up with that concept, felt that it could launch a third series. ... But now that idea has become the core idea for the new show."

Stargate Universe will not be set in a different era, Cooper confirmed, neither as a prequel nor in the far future of the Stargate program.

"I'm not a big fan of prequels," he said. "I don't think that really works, and I don't really understand people who do think that works. One of the things that we love about Stargate is that is us -- it's our military, it's our scientists, it's our people -- and we're going out into the galaxy and the universe to discover all the wonders that are out there, and dealing with our own limitations versus things that are far more advanced than us.

"That's identifiable. It's what we deal with every day, in terms of medicine and science and astrophysics. We're just babies in all that. And we would always want to maintain that in anything that is Stargate-related."

In spite of being quite distinct in identity from SG-1 and Atlantis, the new series will be unmistakably Stargate. "It certainly plays into the mythology that has been pre-established," Cooper said. "But it doesn't directly relate to anything that has been in either series."

Cooper and executive producer Brad Wright plan to turn more attention to the new show's pilot script after wrapping principal photography on the two Stargate SG-1 movies, Stargate: The Ark of Truth and Stargate: Continuum this June. Stay with GateWorld for the very latest developments!

Taken From Gateworld

[The Caped Knight]

Interesting .

[LadyVader]

Well i've seen the last episode... and I loved it!
19, Dominion felt very rushed, but 20 - Unending felt perfect for a series ending. I only wish Dominion could've been half as good, or at least be good at what it was supposed to do but the whole 10th season felt off, awkward and rushed. It could've ended on such a highnote but because of the overall crappiness of the season Unending didn't have quite the same bang for the buck as it could've had.

It had however a little bit of brilliance that I am grateful for. Mitchell was still blissfully useless. :)

[PartyBoi]

The best Stargate Atlantis video ever. I dare you to prove otherwise.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ZkLrBJ5R4hQ

[Superfreak]

notice how this thread dissappeared without any sg1? it illustrates perfectly though metaphor my dislike of atlantis

[Happenstance]

I definately prefer SG1 over SGA but dont forget that SGA has finished in Canada and the UK and isnt even back yet in the US is it?

[twylight]

LV! CORP! I NEED you!

Am I the only one who enjoys Atlantis? And on that topic, the biggest shock of all!

They killed CARSON!?!?!?!?!?!?!?!


P.S. I wanna give a nod to the UK watchers, ya'll rock for using the spoiler tags ^_^ Thanks. Here we've got a few more weeks of SG1 goodness and I don't want it spoiled. ^_^

[wiegeabo]

I'm just in shock over what happened in Atlantis! :eek: :(

[twylight]

*cries on Wiegs shoulder*

I know...I cried. :csad: :csad:

[Fading]

Ya, I was surprised too, but for some reason I saw it coming because it reminded me of an SG1 set up episode.

When the doc on SG1 died it was a semi flash back episode like this, and they went for the sudden shock death. When Carson said he'd stay behind and get rid of the bomb, and then carried it himself away from the guy on the stretcher and the other doctor I knew he'd die any second. I just expected it to go off while he was running, and not after the hand off. It was a good way for him to go in a heroic fashion of risking his life to save a patient, but it felt like a needless waste of his character.

Overall I think it was touching, but wish they could have found another way to have progressed the story without doing that.

[Fading]

Lol, it might be short lived.


http://gateworld.net/news/2007/04/fallen_character_will_return_in_.shtml

Fallen character will return in Season Four
http://gateworld.net/graphics/clear.gif
Tuesday - April 10, 2007 | by Darren Sumner
digg_bgcolor = '#BBD1E8'; digg_skin = 'compact';

http://gateworld.net/graphics/clear.gifhttp://gateworld.net/news/graphics/mcgillion01.jpg Beware of big spoilers below for the third season Atlantis episode "Sunday." (http://gateworld.net/atlantis/s3/317.shtml)

Dr. Carson Beckett (http://gateworld.net/omnipedia/characters/links/beckettcarson.shtml) will not survive the third season of Stargate Atlantis, which returns to U.S. television (http://gateworld.net/news/2007/04/fallen_character_will_return_in_.shtml#) this Friday (story (http://gateworld.net/news/2006/11/iatlantisi_cast_member_to_depart.shtml)). But he will be back next year, executive producer Joseph Mallozzi revealed to SaveCarsonBeckett.com (http://www.savecarsonbeckett.com/2007/04/09/exclusive-carson-to-resurface-on-atlantis/) this week.

Beckett, played by actor (http://gateworld.net/news/2007/04/fallen_character_will_return_in_.shtml#) Paul McGillion, was killed off in the very memorable episode "Sunday," which has already aired in Canada and the United Kingdom. The death of the Scottish doctor launched a passionate response from fans, who even protested in the rain outside of the show's set (story (http://gateworld.net/news/2007/03/carson_beckett_fans_rally_at_bri.shtml)).

McGillion has signed to appear in a two-part story in the second half of Season Four. The writers are also working on a possible third episode for the doctor.

But wait ... is this a writer's trick? Will fans get to see a hologram, or alternate universe Beckett, or an alien impersonation? "When he returns for the two-parter, it will be Carson Beckett in the flesh," Mallozzi assured fans. "Late in Season Three, we discussed the manner in which the character had been written out and the possible ways in which he could be brought back. I threw out an idea that not only brought Carson back, but answered a very big question I had concerning a late-season arc.

"In order to lay the groundwork for his possible return, we threaded a subtle hint into one of the late Season Three episodes. So, if fans want to know how we plan on bringing the good doctor back from the dead, they should seek out the hidden clue when the back half of Season Three returns to SCI FI (http://gateworld.net/news/2007/04/fallen_character_will_return_in_.shtml#) this Friday, April 13th."

The return appearance will also leave open the door for Beckett's potential return in a fifth season of Atlantis, he said.

Mallozzi promised fans at the March rally that, if their campaign managed to get publicity for the show from a major U.S. source such as Entertainment Tonight or Access Hollywood, he would write Beckett into the back half of Season Four. The campaign has been covered by multiple print, radio, and television shows (http://gateworld.net/news/2007/04/fallen_character_will_return_in_.shtml#) (primarily in Canada), and fans recently displayed a campaign sign in the on-camera window at The Today Show in New York City.

"I'm a man of my word," Mallozzi told the site. "The SCB Campaign upheld their end of the bargain, so I'm upholding mine. I am pleased to announce that Carson Beckett will be returning to Atlantis for a two-part story in the back half of Season Four."

The show's fourth season promises a darker tone and some significant developments. "Fans can look forward to some major developments and revelations regarding the Wraith, the Replicators, and our characters. Year four is going to be a little darker than past seasons as a lot of elements we have put in play since the premiere being to gel and pay off."

New episodes of Stargate Atlantis kick off this Friday, April 13, at 9 p.m. Eastern/Pacific on SCI FI Channel! Season Four is now in production, headed for a fall 2007 premiere. Read the full Q&A with Joseph Mallozzi now at SaveCarsonBeckett.com (http://www.savecarsonbeckett.com/2007/04/09/exclusive-carson-to-resurface-on-atlantis/).

[wiegeabo]

*cries on Wiegs shoulder*

I know...I cried. :csad: :csad:


I know. I was just stunned. I couldn't believe it.

I was good all through the memorial until they picked up the casket. I've been a pallbearer twice, so that scene really hit home. Had to fight back the tears. :csad:


But there is some good news.
Due to fan reaction after originally airing outside the US, Carson will be back for at least two episodes next season. And, according to the producers, it will be the real flesh-and-blood Carson! :wow:

[wiegeabo]

Lol, it might be short lived.


http://gateworld.net/news/2007/04/fallen_character_will_return_in_.shtml

Fallen character will return in Season Four
http://gateworld.net/graphics/clear.gif
Tuesday - April 10, 2007 | by Darren Sumner
digg_bgcolor = '#BBD1E8'; digg_skin = 'compact';

http://gateworld.net/graphics/clear.gifhttp://gateworld.net/news/graphics/mcgillion01.jpg Beware of big spoilers below for the third season Atlantis episode "Sunday." (http://gateworld.net/atlantis/s3/317.shtml)

Dr. Carson Beckett (http://gateworld.net/omnipedia/characters/links/beckettcarson.shtml) will not survive the third season of Stargate Atlantis, which returns to U.S. television (http://gateworld.net/news/2007/04/fallen_character_will_return_in_.shtml#) this Friday (story (http://gateworld.net/news/2006/11/iatlantisi_cast_member_to_depart.shtml)). But he will be back next year, executive producer Joseph Mallozzi revealed to SaveCarsonBeckett.com (http://www.savecarsonbeckett.com/2007/04/09/exclusive-carson-to-resurface-on-atlantis/) this week.

Beckett, played by actor (http://gateworld.net/news/2007/04/fallen_character_will_return_in_.shtml#) Paul McGillion, was killed off in the very memorable episode "Sunday," which has already aired in Canada and the United Kingdom. The death of the Scottish doctor launched a passionate response from fans, who even protested in the rain outside of the show's set (story (http://gateworld.net/news/2007/03/carson_beckett_fans_rally_at_bri.shtml)).

McGillion has signed to appear in a two-part story in the second half of Season Four. The writers are also working on a possible third episode for the doctor.

But wait ... is this a writer's trick? Will fans get to see a hologram, or alternate universe Beckett, or an alien impersonation? "When he returns for the two-parter, it will be Carson Beckett in the flesh," Mallozzi assured fans. "Late in Season Three, we discussed the manner in which the character had been written out and the possible ways in which he could be brought back. I threw out an idea that not only brought Carson back, but answered a very big question I had concerning a late-season arc.

"In order to lay the groundwork for his possible return, we threaded a subtle hint into one of the late Season Three episodes. So, if fans want to know how we plan on bringing the good doctor back from the dead, they should seek out the hidden clue when the back half of Season Three returns to SCI FI (http://gateworld.net/news/2007/04/fallen_character_will_return_in_.shtml#) this Friday, April 13th."

The return appearance will also leave open the door for Beckett's potential return in a fifth season of Atlantis, he said.

Mallozzi promised fans at the March rally that, if their campaign managed to get publicity for the show from a major U.S. source such as Entertainment Tonight or Access Hollywood, he would write Beckett into the back half of Season Four. The campaign has been covered by multiple print, radio, and television shows (http://gateworld.net/news/2007/04/fallen_character_will_return_in_.shtml#) (primarily in Canada), and fans recently displayed a campaign sign in the on-camera window at The Today Show in New York City.

"I'm a man of my word," Mallozzi told the site. "The SCB Campaign upheld their end of the bargain, so I'm upholding mine. I am pleased to announce that Carson Beckett will be returning to Atlantis for a two-part story in the back half of Season Four."

The show's fourth season promises a darker tone and some significant developments. "Fans can look forward to some major developments and revelations regarding the Wraith, the Replicators, and our characters. Year four is going to be a little darker than past seasons as a lot of elements we have put in play since the premiere being to gel and pay off."

New episodes of Stargate Atlantis kick off this Friday, April 13, at 9 p.m. Eastern/Pacific on SCI FI Channel! Season Four is now in production, headed for a fall 2007 premiere. Read the full Q&A with Joseph Mallozzi now at SaveCarsonBeckett.com (http://www.savecarsonbeckett.com/2007/04/09/exclusive-carson-to-resurface-on-atlantis/).


Beat me to it.

[Dr Lee]

Slightly useless spoiler for the movies.

I was recemtly able to listen to a panel involving Amanda Tapping, Paul McGillion and Daimian Kindler (Over DK & ATs new venture called Sanctuary).


AT was sporting long hair and admitted that she had been allowed to grow her hair long for the movies and for her stint on Atlantis (She used the word finally!:woot: ).

[Superfreak]

You guys are sad? Carson was one of the worst characters on the show IMO. He was too good.

The finale is great too, they weed out the other worst character on the show. I hope SHE is dies. But I don't think I'll be that lucky

[Dr Lee]

Adria? Vala? Carter? Lam? Which she are you meaning?

[Superfreak]

Adria? Vala? Carter? Lam? Which she are you meaning?

well, seeing that none of those characters are actually on Atlantis, you can be sure that it's not one of them.

But, SHE, does get the entire window in the Atlantis gateroom, blown into her face.

[Dr Lee]

D'oh! Though you were on about SG-1:whatever:

It's annoying that we;ve been told that


Carter is replacing her yet they won't say if she'll die at the end of her couple of episodes or not

[Superfreak]

D'oh! Though you were on about SG-1:whatever:

It's annoying that we;ve been told that


Carter is replacing her yet they won't say if she'll die at the end of her couple of episodes or not



personally, I hope they kill the ho

i mean really, could she be any more useless? Remember when they introduced the character? She was supposed to be a savant of political negotiation. Able to barter Peace, where no one else could. And yet, 3 years later, they seem to be at war with the Wraith, the Genai, the Replicators, and a miriad of other peops. Her Character is a total waste of space, and writing

if what you say is true, and Tapping/carter is replacing her. It might be the bes thing that ever happened to atlantis. If Sheppard wasn't such a douche all the time. The show might actually pick up in quality. If SHE is gone, and they adjust Sheppard to be a little more 'realistic', I think Atlantis might persist as long as SG1

[PartyBoi]

Thanks. How many pages back was this? Why is there not an official thread? Atlantis is my favorite scifi show currently on. Loved battlestar also, but I heard it has but cut. Why is that when its one of the top rated shows on scifi?

[Happenstance]

I think this thread is so far back because of not too many Stargate fans post in it/visit the hype and also all the new episodes have already aired in the UK and Canada for Atlantis so a lot of people have already seen them.

[TheCorpulent1]

Yeah, I watched them all when they aired for Canada and the UK. I told myself I'd watch them again when they aired on the Sci Fi Channel, but I'm always working at that time and it's just such a fuss over stuff I've already seen.

Regarding Carter taking over Weir's position on Atlantis: I love the idea. I was never a huge fan of Weir, and when I heard that Carter was moving to Atlantis, I automatically assumed she'd just be playing second-fiddle in the tech geek department to McKay, since she's always been the resident tech geek on SG-1. But placing her in the leadership position was a brilliant move on the producers' part. Now we get Carter in a leadership role--something many fans, including myself, have been clamoring for ever since Jack left SG-1--and she's got expertise in literally all of the other team members' areas. She's military trained and a damn fine asset on ops, so she's good for the field team, she's got the science background, so she can help McKay and Zelenka on stuff, she's shown that she has a bit of a softer side, which'll probably help her bond with Teyla, and she's been around Teal'c for a decade, so Ronan'll be easy as pie for her to deal with. Perfect move, in my opinion.

[PartyBoi]

Tonight is the final episodes of both on scifi. They already aired in Cananda?

[Dr Lee]

Ya only the US haven't seen either yet.....

Damned stupid of Sci-fi me thinks.

[TheCorpulent1]

It's because Sci Fi switched around their whole airing schedule this season. They're moving Atlantis to a fall schedule like BSG, which is why they delayed the second half of the season to right around the time that a whole new season of the Stargates would normally be starting. Before, it used to be that the Stargate series started their seasons in June, ran until September, went on hiatus, came back in January, and ran the second halves of their seasons until March. This season they started in June, ran to September, went on hiatus, then waited until April to start airing the second halves. Dumb move, I think, but there it is.

[Superfreak]

When does Craplantis Season 4 begin (anywhere, not just the US)? Atlantis and SG1 always seemed to air the first halves of their seasons in the July-early September range. Does this still hold true, or has Atlantis been pushed back to the fall, now that it is airing all by itself?

[Superfreak]

Thanks. How many pages back was this? Why is there not an official thread? Atlantis is my favorite scifi show currently on. Loved battlestar also, but I heard it has but cut. Why is that when its one of the top rated shows on scifi?


this is the official thread. The show is on summer break, of course it's gonna be way back in the forum

[Dr Lee]

It's said to return to Sci-Fi in September but they haven't said which end of the month.

Also no word as of yet on weather Canada or us Brits get it first... or even when at all.

[ROOR]

At the Stargate panels at SDCC they did mention that there had been talks about another spinoff series that they had been toying with, but it was nothing that was even remotely close to happening or anything yet. They want to see how the movies do first. The panels were actually not too bad, I missed the previews for the movies because the WB presentation ran over, and I didn't want to miss the Watchmen stuff. :csad:

[Sam Fisher]

SG1 is better than Craplantis.

"What is a oprah?":D

[TheCorpulent1]

I enjoy them both. I'm glad Sam's coming over to Atlantis. She's the perfect choice for the role if the IOA wants to switch from a civilian to a military commander, given her extensive background in both science and interstellar battles. The length of her hair in the preview for season 4 tells me she may not be in the Air Force anymore, though. I don't know what the current standards are, but I don't think they allowed such long hair when SG-1 started.

[Happenstance]

Personally I think Daniel would have been a better choice. He would still be a civilian so that would appease the International lot but also has a proven track record with the airforce so would work well with them and these days actually understands when certain decisions have to be made.

[carrrnuttt]

I don't know what the current standards are, but I don't think they allowed such long hair when SG-1 started.

I never understood why the show wouldn't let Amanda Tapping grow her hair out. I was in the Air Force, and hair past your shoulders was allowed for females, as long as you pin the hair up when on duty.

A lot of females opt for the Sam Carter look though, as it was easier to maintain, and you don't have to worry about tying it up when you're in a hurry.

On the other hand, maybe since she was part of what is essentially a Special Forces team that is always on alert that her hair has to be short. I must say I never had the chance to encounter an SF-member female while I was in, so I honestly don't know.

Also, I guess a bun on Sam Carter was too girlish?

[carrrnuttt]

Personally I think Daniel would have been a better choice. He would still be a civilian so that would appease the International lot but also has a proven track record with the airforce so would work well with them and these days actually understands when certain decisions have to be made.

Daniel's too much of the humanitarian type to lead something like Atlantis. Maybe he has the potential to get harder-edged, but I don't wanna see that from him.

[ROOR]

Daniel's too much of the humanitarian type to lead something like Atlantis. Maybe he has the potential to get harder-edged, but I don't wanna see that from him.

Plus he dies too often to get any kind of leadership role...:woot:

[TheCorpulent1]

Daniel's too much of the humanitarian type to lead something like Atlantis. Maybe he has the potential to get harder-edged, but I don't wanna see that from him.
Have you seen seasons 9 and 10? Daniel's humanitarianism seems to vanish when confronted with the Ori.
Also, I guess a bun on Sam Carter was too girlish?
She probably thought it would be too girlish for herself in the earlier seasons. After all, she did get defensive over nothing and throw out that cringe-worthy "just because my reproductive organs are on the inside" quote in the first episode. I still shake my head at that when I see reruns of the first episode.

[Dr Lee]

Shanks has revealed a spoiler for the Continuum movie....


Daniel spends his time in the alternate Earth with only one leg. The way he put it was - 'The ship was sinking, Daniel stepps in to help and loses the leg'- Dunno which one it is but apparently when they 'reset' the missing leg returns. Again i dunno how that works.

This is apparently the Dark storyline they created to explain why Shanks missed the artic shoot to film 24 as Daniel has a hard time coping in the other reality

[carrrnuttt]

Have you seen seasons 9 and 10? Daniel's humanitarianism seems to vanish when confronted with the Ori.


Yeah, but "humanitarian" doesn't apply at all when what you're dealing with aren't human. :cwink:

Daniel isn't exactly cruel and calculated when it comes to the human component of the Ori, which is Adria and the Priors.

The Wraith aren't completely human, yes, but they partly are, and are certainly easier to give humanizing references to.

Just saying.

[TheCorpulent1]

Yeah, but he's also willing to bomb stuff and jump to a weapons-first solution the way Jack always used to. RDA's departure apparently forced Daniel to straddle the line between his earlier personality and Jack's personality, at least the way I've seen it.

Either way, we agree he's not really the best choice for leadership of the Atlantis mission. Sam definitely takes that prize for me. I haven't been excited for Atlantis as much as I am for season 4 and Sam's arrival.
Shanks has revealed a spoiler for the Continuum movie....


Daniel spends his time in the alternate Earth with only one leg. The way he put it was - 'The ship was sinking, Daniel stepps in to help and loses the leg'- Dunno which one it is but apparently when they 'reset' the missing leg returns. Again i dunno how that works.

This is apparently the Dark storyline they created to explain why Shanks missed the artic shoot to film 24 as Daniel has a hard time coping in the other reality

Damn, alternate Daniels always get screwed somehow. :(

[Dr Lee]

No not alternate Daniel... Our Daniel.

As far as i know (And i have been on a self imposed exile from the web while this computer decided to throw a wobbly so i may nhave missed something that said differently) Our Daniel, Sam and Cam somehow survive the timeline change and the movie is them trying to convince the new timeline ppl that they need to fix the timeline back to how it was.

[TheCorpulent1]

Yeah, but it'll all be reset in the end, so missing-leg-Daniel is, for all intents and purposes, an alternate Daniel. It's not like they're gonna leave him without a leg for all future SG-1 stuff.

[Sam Fisher]

What was the name of that song they used in the SG1 series finale?





Daniel survives the timeline change and the movie is them trying to convince the new timeline ppl that they need to fix the timeline back to how it was.
Does this sound like that season 1 episode to anyone else?:huh:

[Dr Lee]

Just about everything on TV atm is a rehash of somethig someone else has done already... which itself was a rehash of something someone else had done already.

The tune in the finale is called-

'Have you ever seen the rain' by the Creedance Clearwater Revival.

Last week MGM updated the character Bio pictures for the Atlantis crew...i'm just updating my avi with JMs bio pic.

[PuddleJumper67]

Hey guys...as you all know, the fourth season of Stargate: Atlantis premieres Friday, Sept. 28th at 10/9C on Sci-Fi. We fans really need to band together and watch it LIVE. I heard that ratings need to go up for this show. All of us would like to see a fifth season – and beyond. I’ll be at home that night watching. Let’s make it Official Watch It Live Day.

[Dr Lee]

If i understand it, a 5th seaosn has nothing to do with the 4ths ratings... it's all gonna be down to S3's ratings.

And i'm UK so i can't do poop about Sci-fi's ratings.

[PuddleJumper67]

Viewership for Season 4 is just as important. And a lot of shows' ratings are affected by DVR's.

[taintedFB]

Does anyone know when SG Atlantis Season 3 comes out on DVD?

[TheCorpulent1]

Viewership for Season 4 is just as important. And a lot of shows' ratings are affected by DVR's.
Which is retarded. They really need to develop a way to count people who use DVRs, since they're pretty common these days. I work on Friday nights, so I couldn't even watch Atlantis when it airs if I wanted to.

[Happenstance]

From what ive heard the season 4 first episode has been leaked onto the net

[Dr Lee]

EDIT- not a rumour....

I've jsut seen a Torrent for it.

Now unless this is all apart of some elaborate prank then it looks like if i wanted to i could watch it tomorrow..........

......


Do i?

[Happenstance]

I wouldnt bother, its missing 7 minutes in the middle and has no sound effects as its for review purposes

[taintedFB]

Dude, I'd rather wait and see the finished show in its entirety.

[TheCorpulent1]

**** that, I'd wait for it even if it were perfectly complete. There's only, what, a week or two left before the season starts? I've already waited the obscene amount of time between now and when the season 3 finale aired in the UK or Canada or wherever they showed it earlier than the US.

[Dr Lee]

I'm in the UK so it's still about three or four weeks away.

The MAIN reason why i'd watch it now is that i don't want to be spoiled on how they survive and i can see some mindless (Insert swear word here) blabbering on about how they got themselves out of the *****hole they are in, in about 10 hours time.

That would completely and utterly f**k it up for me, so part oe me is happy to possibly miss out on 7 minutes and some sound FXs just to stop some moronic loser ruining it for me.

[Superfreak]

**** that, I'd wait for it even if it were perfectly complete. There's only, what, a week or two left before the season starts? I've already waited the obscene amount of time between now and when the season 3 finale aired in the UK or Canada or wherever they showed it earlier than the US.

I think they can be forgiven for the wait, at least for this year, now that they've shifted to a regular release schedule.

I did however, miss my July and August gate outings, which is what got me into stargate TV in the first place: NOTHING USED TO BE ON DURING THE SUMMER 'cept for SG1 and SGA. But now that that's not happening anymore, and my less than enthusiastic support for Atlantis, the gate world is slowly losing my fanaticism.

[PuddleJumper67]

Does anyone know when SG Atlantis Season 3 comes out on DVD?

Stargate: Atlantis Season 3 DVD comes out on Sept. 18th.

[TheCorpulent1]

I think they can be forgiven for the wait, at least for this year, now that they've shifted to a regular release schedule.

I did however, miss my July and August gate outings, which is what got me into stargate TV in the first place: NOTHING USED TO BE ON DURING THE SUMMER 'cept for SG1 and SGA. But now that that's not happening anymore, and my less than enthusiastic support for Atlantis, the gate world is slowly losing my fanaticism.
Exactly. I think the new schedule is stupid for a number of reasons, but Sci Fi seems determined to ruin everything good on its schedule. What they're doing with Battlestar Galactica still boggles my mind.

[Superfreak]

Exactly. I think the new schedule is stupid for a number of reasons, but Sci Fi seems determined to ruin everything good on its schedule. What they're doing with Battlestar Galactica still boggles my mind.

For BSG it makes sense. It's a long time yes, but I feel it's better than a 3-4 month break in the middle. Basically, it gives the writers less opportunities to do big cliffhangers. And the BSG ones are the worst. Waiting 6 months to see wether or not Galactica and Pegasus were gonna duke it out was terrible. I much prefer getting the final 20 episodes, in 20 straight weeks.

as for SGA, I'm not really concerned if it is driven into the ground. The show has so much potential, that they just never seem to tap into. The show needs to get a little more serious. SG1 was the same way at the beginning, but once Daniel really died for the first time, the show really picked up.

it's what I don't like about SGA... it's too fanciful. SG1 had a good balance of humor and sarcasm, as well as the other stuff. But SGA is like slapstick in comparison. I'm refering to the 'not taking itself too seriously' aspect of SG1. SGA don't seem to take itself at all seriously. That's what really pisses me off about the show. And other than Taela, Ronin and McKay and Zilenka, I pretty much hate the rest of the cast, IMO, they suck. I'll keep watching and discussing, but SGA is definately a show of secondary importance

[Happenstance]

Looks like the second episode of season 4 has been leaked aswell

[TheCorpulent1]

Is it also incomplete?

[Happenstance]

Without sound effects again yes

[taintedFB]

NO thanks. I'll wait for the premiere.

[GhostPoet]

Been reading about Atlantis...sounds like some great changes!
I love the cast changes...and the fact the show is going down a darker route is especially good to me...just as long as they can keep the humor. :)

[PuddleJumper67]

Has anybody seen the Ark of Truth trailer or the Continuum featurette? What do you think?
Both vids are at http://stargate.mgm.com/video.php (http://stargate.mgm.com/video.php)

[TheCorpulent1]

Been reading about Atlantis...sounds like some great changes!
I love the cast changes...and the fact the show is going down a darker route is especially good to me...just as long as they can keep the humor. :)
I can't wait for the new season. First time I've really been excited for Atlantis since its premiere. I can't wait to see how Carter meshes with the rest of the cast. It's a shame that Weir's getting the boot, but she really wasn't much use in her post in the first place. She's a good leader, but her skills never contributed much. All the Atlantis crew does is make enemies everywhere, it seems; no need for a negotiator in those circumstances. :o

I know I'm gonna catch flak for this because I'm a guy, but is anyone else struck by how amazing Carter's hair looks? Maybe it's because I've always thought she's had spectacularly awful haircuts in just about every SG-1 season, but her hair looks fantastic in the Atlantis previews I've seen so far.

[Superfreak]

I can't wait for the new season. First time I've really been excited for Atlantis since its premiere. I can't wait to see how Carter meshes with the rest of the cast. It's a shame that Weir's getting the boot, but she really wasn't much use in her post in the first place. She's a good leader, but her skills never contributed much. All the Atlantis crew does is make enemies everywhere, it seems; no need for a negotiator in those circumstances. :o

I know I'm gonna catch flak for this because I'm a guy, but is anyone else struck by how amazing Carter's hair looks? Maybe it's because I've always thought she's had spectacularly awful haircuts in just about every SG-1 season, but her hair looks fantastic in the Atlantis previews I've seen so far.

tealas aways been hotter

[LexCorp]

Awesome a SG thread. I love this show.

[TheCorpulent1]

tealas aways been hotter
I agree. But Teyla's always had good hair, too. This is a first for Sam.

[Dr Lee]

If you put Keller, Carter and Teyla in a room i'd probably go for Keller, not Sam or Teyla....

[TheCorpulent1]

I'd have to take a moment to decide between Teyla and Keller. I'd probably go with Keller too, though.

[LexCorp]

I'd have to take a moment to decide between Teyla and Keller. I'd probably go with Keller too, though.

Teyla is an easy win for me

[LadyVader]

I've always believed that the men in the SG shows are hotter than the women. I mean, Teyla, Carter and the rest are pretty, but you can't say they're gorgeus (except maybe Adria).

Now, Ronon, Daniel and Baal are all really (and I mean REALLY) handsome men. So in that sense I consider myself lucky. :)

[LexCorp]

I've always believed that the men in the SG shows are hotter than the women. I mean, Teyla, Carter and the rest are pretty, but you can't say they're gorgeus (except maybe Adria).

Now, Ronon, Daniel and Baal are all really (and I mean REALLY) handsome men. So in that sense I consider myself lucky. :)

Oh yeah SG dudes are respectible role models...Teal'c rules.

[Happenstance]

Keller for me without a doubt. Never liked Teyla, plus she wears a wig.

[LexCorp]

Keller for me without a doubt. Never liked Teyla, plus she wears a wig.

Good wig

[TheCorpulent1]

She wears a wig? :confused:

[LexCorp]

She wears a wig? :confused:

I just think she would take it harder than the rest.

[Dr Lee]

I don't think she wears the wigs any more, Not sure why they had her wear them anyway......

[TheCorpulent1]

Just read some old interview with her and it turns out it's because her hair is naturally really dark, so rather than dye her hair all the time, they went with a wig. I don't get why Teyla couldn't just have dark hair, though. Dr. Weir was originally blonde, yet they had no problem leaving Torri Higgonson's hair alone. :confused:

[Happenstance]

I saw a picture of her once in a sci-fi magazine with her real her, it looked absolutely awful.

[Superfreak]

I'd have to take a moment to decide between Teyla and Keller. I'd probably go with Keller too, though.

cowards, you are afraid of the jungle love. Fitness is what I'm after, Teala trumps keller on the 'be able to rag doll me' level

[LexCorp]

cowards, you are afraid of the jungle love. Fitness is what I'm after, Teala trumps keller on the 'be able to rag doll me' level

Yeah that's what I think, she would rock till you drop then keep goin even if you pass out. :woot:

[Superfreak]

Yeah that's what I think, she would rock till you drop then keep goin even if you pass out. :woot:


that works for me

[LexCorp]

that works for me

Me too she just has this vibe about her like she will get any job done what ever it takes. Total dedication and that is hot....like Teal'c would for a girl lol.

[Superfreak]

Me too she just has this vibe about her like she will get any job done what ever it takes. Total dedication and that is hot....like Teal'c would for a girl lol.

she's a girl tealc for a boy, just like tealc is a boy tealc for a girl

[LexCorp]

she's a girl tealc for a boy, just like tealc is a boy tealc for a girl

Exactly

[Superfreak]

Exactly


I wonder what would happen if both characters....

[LexCorp]

I wonder what would happen if both characters....

A universe would be created kinda like the big bang

[PuddleJumper67]

Check out this Stargate Atlantis MySpace page...I must say it’s a very nice job
www.myspace.com/stargatecentralcommand

[PuddleJumper67]

New SGA ComicCon interviews are up – stargate.mgm.com/video.php
I liked the ones with Hewlett and Jewel Staite.

[TheCorpulent1]

Ew, what's up with all the leather? :confused:

[wiegeabo]

Ew, what's up with all the leather? :confused:

The show's going into a newer...kinkier...direction. :ninja:

[TheCorpulent1]

:csad:

Seriously, though, why's McKay in leather? Of everyone on the show for whom leather might make sense, McKay? Really? He needs to get back into his normal, dark blue jacket pronto.

[Dr Lee]

Damn you beat me to it

[Argyle of Sock]

Yeah, most of those costumes are SO not OK in any sense of the word.

What posessed them...

[Superfreak]

Yeah, most of those costumes are SO not OK in any sense of the word.

What posessed them...

uh, anyone remember when Stargate made fun of craptastic costumes like these ones: I believe it was called STARGATE: EXTREME, where X's all over everything make the show more marketable.

it seems that they've fallen into a trap, now how are they going to make fun of themselves

[LexCorp]

The show's going into a newer...kinkier...direction. :ninja:

Jaffa love lol

[Dr Lee]

uh, anyone remember when Stargate made fun of craptastic costumes like these ones: I believe it was called STARGATE: EXTREME, where X's all over everything make the show more marketable.

it seems that they've fallen into a trap, now how are they going to make fun of themselves

That was Wormhole:Extreme. Otherwise known as the 110th and 200th wepisodes where they took the mickey out of themselves.

I may be in the minority here but i love both of those two episodes, All the in-jokes and the digs at themselves and Sci-fi programming in general is hilarious

[LexCorp]

That was Wormhole:Extreme. Otherwise known as the 110th and 200th wepisodes where they took the mickey out of themselves.

I may be in the minority here but i love both of those two episodes, All the in-jokes and the digs at themselves and Sci-fi programming in general is hilarious

It was pretty good.

[TheCorpulent1]

They were good, but I agree with Superfreak: if they're now introducing tight, leather costumes on Atlantis, they've gone beyond hanging a lantern on goofy sci fi conventions and have begun falling prey to those sad, silly conventions themselves.

[LexCorp]

They were good, but I agree with Superfreak: if they're now introducing tight, leather costumes on Atlantis, they've gone beyond hanging a lantern on goofy sci fi conventions and have begun falling prey to those sad, silly conventions themselves.

I really do not think they will go down that route.

[TheCorpulent1]

But McKay and Carter are wearing leather right in that promo pic. Carter's even wearing some weird leather padding on her pants. :(

[LexCorp]

But McKay and Carter are wearing leather right in that promo pic. Carter's even wearing some weird leather padding on her pants. :(

I say it is a joke lol

[TheCorpulent1]

Meh, whatever, Farscape was good in spite of all the leather. I'll just try not to focus on it tonight.

Oh yeah, by the way, new Atlantis episodes start TONIGHT! :D

[LexCorp]

Meh, whatever, Farscape was good in spite of all the leather. I'll just try not to focus on it tonight.

Oh yeah, by the way, new Atlantis episodes start TONIGHT! :D

So I now have to download Heroes, Smallville and SGA

I hate the UK :cmad:

[TheCorpulent1]

Hey, I have to download Doctor Who, Torchwood, and some other stuff from you guys, so it evens out. Plus, if there's a hiatus in this season on Sci Fi, you'll probably get the back half of the season before we do, so I'll have to download SGA from you or the Canucks, too. :oldrazz:

[LadyVader]

Stargate Atlantis Premiere Review

Well that was a solid hour of entertainment with more to come! Even though we didn't have any bad guys for our heroes to fight, I really liked the constant level of tension. This will by no means be an easy escape. Looking forward to the next episode.

The one thing that was missing was the humor, but then again, the situation was dire and whenever McKay tried to be funny (see his optimistic little coments which lead to the inevitable beat down) if fell flat and felt kind of awkward. If McKay perks up, you KNOW something bad will happen. On the other hand I really liked the conflict between him and Sheppard, who rapidly came into his own as a leader. He is smart and determined, and a great all around character. I liked him even more when he opposed using the nanites to save Weir's life, even though it was eating him up inside.

Ronon didn't have much to do this episode except stay by Weir's side. And Teyla... well you ever saw Galaxy Quest? You remember Sigourney Weaver's character had to repeat the computer's lines and that's about it? Well that was Teyla in this episode. But I'm not surprised, I mean, what can Teyla and Ronon do when the whole city is stranded in space?

Though I liked this episode I have to say that I was a bit surprised to see how the writers treat Weir. I mean, borken ribs? Brain edema? Brain damage? Come on! What did this woman do to deserve this? Why you gotta punish your characters. They even took Torri out of the credits. Sheesh! I know she's going to be replaced but this is just disrespectful.

Oh, and why did Sheppard need to go with Zelenka to fix the array... not to mention that when they get there half the f#$%ing tower is missing. And Zelenka fixes it by replacing a couple of crystal. Just made me laugh.

I still say it's a solid eppy and I liked it a lot. Now bring on the great ZPM robbery!

[carrrnuttt]

Though I liked this episode I have to say that I was a bit surprised to see how the writers treat Weir. I mean, borken ribs? Brain edema? Brain damage? Come on! What did this woman do to deserve this? Why you gotta punish your characters. They even took Torri out of the credits. Sheesh! I know she's going to be replaced but this is just disrespectful.

They had to illustrate how damaged she was, to the point that the nanites were her only hope. She was so damaged that her cells were replaced by enough nanites, that it allows her to do what she does in the next episode.

Oh, and why did Sheppard need to go with Zelenka to fix the array... not to mention that when they get there half the f#$%ing tower is missing.

Sheppard didn't need to go to Zelenka. Zelenka just happened to know what was going on already. Did you not hear McKay's feeble, but valid excuse as to why he didn't make the space walk? McKay noted that Zelenka already had a plan formulated to fix the array.

And Zelenka fixes it by replacing a couple of crystal. Just made me laugh.

It's not just "replacing a couple of crystals". As always, they have to be precisely arranged and likely done in a certain order to work properly. Otherwise, he could have simply told Sheppard or some soldier what to do, nor will McKay have had the excuse that he had.

Same goes for Sam Carter and SG-1, whenever she worked on Go'auld crystal technology. Can you imagine Carter going to either O'Neill or Mitchell: "Okay sir, just head back to the engine room and switch the yellow and pink crystals, and we'll be good." - and how lame that is?

[LadyVader]

I said it just made me laugh because in Stargate no matter how extensive the damage, you can always fix it by changing around some crystals. Obviously you have to graduate MIT or something to do it but it's still funny. :)

[LexCorp]

I said it just made me laugh because in Stargate no matter how extensive the damage, you can always fix it by changing around some crystals. Obviously you have to graduate MIT or something to do it but it's still funny. :)

lol

I do love that. But the crystal knowledge went out the window with the ORI lol

[BlackLantern]

I'm a relatively new fan to Stargate....I've only been watching reruns and some of the newer stuff in the last 2 years or so......I'll miss Dr. Weir though....

[TheCorpulent1]

Good premiere. Sam didn't factor in as much as I thought she would; but, then, I didn't know this was a two-part premiere, either. I look forward to more Sam action in the next episode, when she invariably comes up with some ridiculously off-the-wall way to contact and/or save Atlantis.

The Midway Station looked great. No leather so far (except on Ronon, but that's normal), so that was a treat. Keller really stepped up to the challenge, especially since the last thing I recall about her was her whining to Weir about how she couldn't handle a whole department. I always like seeing people with insecurities go into auto-pilot at whatever they're good at and just knock it out of the park, almost without even realizing how badass they are.

Really, about the only thing I didn't like about "Adrift" was Weir's deal. Like LV said, she's getting kind of a raw deal with the massive injuries. But even beyond that, she's pretty clearly starting down the exact same path as Lt. Ford in season 2. He was injured in the premiere, then he was altered with some essence of the enemy, then he went crazy, tried to kill the team, and was never seen or heard from again. I get the feeling that the exact same thing will happen to Weir--she'll somehow be influenced by the nanites, go really, really dark, and then wind up disappearing. Maybe they won't have her try to kill the team, maybe they will; who knows? My purely speculative bet is that she gets left behind on the Replicator homeworld next episode and isn't seen or heard from until the mid-season cliffhanger episode.

[BlackLantern]

I think she is supposed to be in about 4 or 5 episodes in the coming season....Dr. Weir, that is. Still new to most of this, with Sam Carter being introduced into the cast, I would hope there is an explanation of what SG-1 is doing without her.....

[TheCorpulent1]

Yeah, Weir's slated for 4 episodes, which, I believe, is the same number of episodes Ford had before he went the way of the dodo. Teal'c's gonna be in a couple of episodes this season, too. Maybe he'll fill us in on what SG-1's up to.

[Dr Lee]

It's believed that SG-1 may turn up for a proper crossover in the 'Midway' episode late on in the season.

Teal'c is definately re-appearing in that one

[BlackLantern]

Sounds like a good time.....I just started watching Atlantis, so I'm vaguely familiar with what Fords' character went through....I don't like Native Girl (Teyla)though....she's too cheery for me....

[BlackLantern]

They also have Ark of Truth and Continum due out in the next year as well...

[TheCorpulent1]

Yeah, I'm looking forward to the SG-1 movies. I hadn't heard that the whole team might be appearing in "Midway." I knew that was the second of Teal'c's appearances, but if the rest of the team'll be there, that'd be even better. I wonder who they got to replace Carter. I would have a complete geek meltdown if they brought Jonas back. :D

Oh, and Dr. Lee: I liked your namesake's appearance in "Adrift." Hilarious as always. :D

[BlackLantern]

I saw the episodes that led to Jonas' appearance and subsequent departure....I liked him alot.....seemed a little more personable than Jackson sometimes...

[TheCorpulent1]

Yeah, he was like a smarter, more interesting Daniel, and he'd be a perfect counterpoint to Daniel now that Daniel is basically Jack Jr.

[BlackLantern]

I started watching right when Ben Browder came on .....and I've seen lots of reruns from various seasons.....I like Browders' character though....

[TheCorpulent1]

I liked him a lot more on Farscape. He doesn't really seem to serve much purpose on SG-1.

[zanos]

Are they replacing the actress who plays Weir with Sam? Kind of sucks for whatsherface.

[zanos]

I started watching right when Ben Browder came on .....and I've seen lots of reruns from various seasons.....I like Browders' character though....

The inclusion of Ben and Claudia on the show demonstrated how special their characters were on Farscape.

[TheCorpulent1]

Are they replacing the actress who plays Weir with Sam? Kind of sucks for whatsherface.
Not just the actress; they're replacing the characters. Weir's going off into some unknown fate while Sam takes over as head of the Atlantis expedition.

[BlackLantern]

The inclusion of Ben and Claudia on the show demonstrated how special their characters were on Farscape.

Both characters fit in very well in the Stargate universe....Claudia Black in the tight leather outfit.....Yummy....

[Dr Lee]

If you liked that then wait for the camera next week.......:cwink:

Loved this episode, the way the saved Wier yet doomed her at the same time was interesting to say the least.

i was expecting her to be in a coma or something, then shuffle off in the mortal coil 2-parter, not get saved by the anaites that she was infected with last season.

Sheps reaction to Rodney usig them was great, Even though he knew that it would kill her he still insisted that they be turned off to protect Atlantis, And i could see that he hated that.

Loved the PJ sequence, it's not often that they show more than one but to show all of them in one shot was cool. As was the shot of McKay taking out the rouge rock.

I too noticed that even though she'd admitted she didn't think she was up to being the CMO only hours before Keller really took charge.

Really liking the look of the Midway station, it'l be a crying shame if the rumor about it's demise is true:csad:

[BlackLantern]

Are they replacing the actress who plays Weir with Sam? Kind of sucks for whatsherface.

I think the actress (Higginson) has wanted to leave.....don't know if thats true

[TheCorpulent1]

Better that than getting fired just for a shake-up, I guess.

[Dr Lee]

thats the first i've heard of that.... though with the lack of info out there on the whole thing then maybe that is the reason.

SG:A need to lock down their cast, i mean they've replaced three seperate characters in the four seasons we've had.

SG-1 has gone through five character losses in their 10 years (I don't count Daniel/Shanks as he came back) with only four replacing them.

It's getting a bit much to have to introduce new guys each season.

[TheCorpulent1]

I don't mind. At least the Stargate series explain their character changes. Other shows don't even bother (*cough*Boston Legal*cough*).

[LadyVader]

On the other hand Boston Legal makes it pretty obvious that Alan Shore and Denny Crane are the heart of the show, and the rest are pretty much dispensable. :)

[BlackLantern]

Denny ****ing Crane....

[TheCorpulent1]

On the other hand Boston Legal makes it pretty obvious that Alan Shore and Denny Crane are the heart of the show, and the rest are pretty much dispensable. :)
Mark Valley is never dispensable, damn it. :cmad: Plus, I was really starting to like Constance Zimmer's character (even though I can't remember her name and always refer to her as "Constance Zimmer's character"). :(

[BlackLantern]

Mark Valley is never dispensable, damn it. :cmad: Plus, I was really starting to like Constance Zimmer's character (even though I can't remember her name and always refer to her as "Constance Zimmer's character"). :(

She is better on Entourage, profanity works well for her....

[LadyVader]

It's Claire but that's ok, I always refer to Mark Valley's character as Captain America. :)

[BlackLantern]

Valley would make a good Cap if he was a few years younger

[TheCorpulent1]

She is better on Entourage, profanity works well for her....
She could do both. She's Constance Zimmer and she's got the greatest smile in Hollywood. :(

[PuddleJumper67]

Stargate Atlantis video game is now live...click GAME on the MySpace page:
www.myspace.com/stargatecentralcommand (http://www.myspace.com/stargatecentralcommand)

http://i231.photobucket.com/albums/ee71/PuddleJumper67/OnlineGame_banner.jpg

[BlackLantern]

She could do both. She's Constance Zimmer and she's got the greatest smile in Hollywood. :(

who says she wants to work 2 jobs?

[TheCorpulent1]

I do. :cmad:

[PuddleJumper67]

Finally...the Nielsen ratings system has landed on the web. Let’s all sign up and vote for Stargate Atlantis. This is the place where our opinions can be heard – by the industry people who decide what goes (and stays) on the air. Go to www.heynielsen.com/rankings/

[BlackLantern]

When I was at SDCC, every sci-fi channel show panel I went to, they were really pushing to please watch their shows live....Tivo'ing doesnt help. So I try to watch the Sci Fi stuff live as much as I can...

[Superfreak]

Finally...the Nielsen ratings system has landed on the web. Let’s all sign up and vote for Stargate Atlantis. This is the place where our opinions can be heard – by the industry people who decide what goes (and stays) on the air. Go to www.heynielsen.com/rankings/


How do I bring down SGA, in favor a superior replacement

[BlackLantern]

How do I bring down SGA, in favor a superior replacement

and that replacement would be ????.......

[Sam Fisher]

SG1:yay:

[BlackLantern]

SG1:yay:

and that isnt going to happen.....so a real suggestion would be nice.....

[TheCorpulent1]

I'm curious about what the new Stargate series will be. The SG-1 movies are pretty much done and Atlantis' new season has started; time for some new Stargate series spoilers. :up:

[BlackLantern]

I'd like to see a Stargate series with a non military vibe.....more about exploration and that type of thing....

[TheCorpulent1]

That's what Atlantis was supposed to be, hence all the civilian scientists. I think the shows would be pretty boring without a military presence, though. Plus, SG-1 and Atlantis have shown us that the universe is nothing if not dangerous, so it'd kind of stretch believability if the new show were all civilians and they just happened to find that one patch of space that's all flowers and gumdrops.

[BlackLantern]

Hmmm....good point. like i've said, i'm relatively new to the SG mythos.....I am excited for the films though......

[TheCorpulent1]

Me, too. :up:

[Superfreak]

Anything, SG-B, SG-C or SG-D It doesn't matter. I want less stargate extreme, and more back to the basics as SG1 was

[LexCorp]

I'd like to see a Stargate series with a non military vibe.....more about exploration and that type of thing....


Anything, SG-B, SG-C or SG-D It doesn't matter. I want less stargate extreme, and more back to the basics as SG1 was


The basics of SG is a military/civi team who explore worlds via the stargate.

The later seasons have focused on big bad enemies who pose a threat to Earth and the SG team try to stop them etc....

I get what you mean. We need a back to basics approach. Given that the humans now kick the crap out of all the posed threats in the show they may need to take a point of view from the lesser being of the galaxy.

[Superfreak]

The basics of SG is a military/civi team who explore worlds via the stargate.

The later seasons have focused on big bad enemies who pose a threat to Earth and the SG team try to stop them etc....

I get what you mean. We need a back to basics approach. Given that the humans now kick the crap out of all the posed threats in the show they may need to take a point of view from the lesser being of the galaxy.


it's just that everything is too easy. It's unbelievable... and any suspense that they create, fails because one always knows that an adequate solution will ALWAYS present itself in the way of McKay. It's all too easy, and the way the characters poke fun at it in the show is a little funny, but they've been using that thread for pretty much the entire series.

The other thing I hate, is I am now watching SG1, with worse writing, and a better budget. Main Villain + Replicators vs. SGA, same as Goauld + Replicators vs. SG1. The redundancy is just getting a little old with the show.


Really, the only reasons I keep up with SGA, is because I don't wanna get caught with my pants down when a new better SG series comes out, and be missing an entire series worth of cannon in my brain. And because the special effects are fun

[TheCorpulent1]

SGA is definitely following the same formula as SG-1. Everything has become too easy, too. All of the problems arise from either failing power or the fact that the team itself has screwed some piece of tech that would've been godlike up. It all feels very manufactured now. But it's a bit of a catch-22 because, while I would like them to get back to the basic formula of the team exploring some planet and encountering a new race or figuring out some new tech, that's just going to add to their arsenal and make things even easier, which'll lead to even more contrived ways of taking that away so the team can still face some actual danger.

That said, I still enjoy the characters, their interaction, and the humorous banter. If Battlestar Galactica became this repetitive, sure, I might just quit watching in disgust. But after the last four years or so of SG-1? Honestly, a few chuckles is really all I need from a Stargate series.

[LexCorp]

it's just that everything is too easy. It's unbelievable... and any suspense that they create, fails because one always knows that an adequate solution will ALWAYS present itself in the way of McKay. It's all too easy, and the way the characters poke fun at it in the show is a little funny, but they've been using that thread for pretty much the entire series.

The other thing I hate, is I am now watching SG1, with worse writing, and a better budget. Main Villain + Replicators vs. SGA, same as Goauld + Replicators vs. SG1. The redundancy is just getting a little old with the show.


Really, the only reasons I keep up with SGA, is because I don't wanna get caught with my pants down when a new better SG series comes out, and be missing an entire series worth of cannon in my brain. And because the special effects are fun

SGA is definitely following the same formula as SG-1. Everything has become too easy, too. All of the problems arise from either failing power or the fact that the team itself has screwed some piece of tech that would've been godlike up. It all feels very manufactured now. But it's a bit of a catch-22 because, while I would like them to get back to the basic formula of the team exploring some planet and encountering a new race or figuring out some new tech, that's just going to add to their arsenal and make things even easier, which'll lead to even more contrived ways of taking that away so the team can still face some actual danger.

That said, I still enjoy the characters, their interaction, and the humorous banter. If Battlestar Galactica became this repetitive, sure, I might just quit watching in disgust. But after the last four years or so of SG-1? Honestly, a few chuckles is really all I need from a Stargate series.

Allow me to hit the nail on the head. Both shows are suffering from the same thing. Well SG1 more so. They have stretched the show over such a long period and had the characters go to the ends of the galaxy and back that there is not much left to tell. All the big Sci Fi stories have been done. They need to just let it go and die one way or another. If they don't in another 5 years will be saying the same thing. Not that I would mind another 5 years of SG LOL.

[TheCorpulent1]

Yeah, which is why I tend to just focus on the characters.

[LexCorp]

Yeah, which is why I tend to just focus on the characters.

Well that is one thing that is good. They do have good character progression. Daniel Jackson went from Nerd to SuperCoolNerd. So that is nice. But poor McKay saving the day everytime. It still gets repetative.

[TheCorpulent1]

If the characters are fun, I'm happy. I'm excited for the new season because of the potential for good character interaction between Sam, Kellerman, and all of the returning Atlantis people.

[LexCorp]

If the characters are fun, I'm happy. I'm excited for the new season because of the potential for good character interaction between Sam, Kellerman, and all of the returning Atlantis people.

SGA has more running time yes of course...but if they do the same with SGA with what they did with SG1 then we will hit dry spots with SGA that feel boring.

[GhostPoet]

Man, Atlantis has really come back big time...the show is darker, better characters and just over-all better stories so far.

[LexCorp]

Man, Atlantis has really come back big time...the show is darker, better characters and just over-all better stories so far.

Dark MacKay

That would make a great villian.

[TheCorpulent1]

Yeah, it'd be nice if the villains could get a guy who's as smart as McKay. Even the Replicators can't seem to outthink him. :o

[LexCorp]

Yeah, it'd be nice if the villains could get a guy who's as smart as McKay. Even the Replicators can't seem to outthink him. :o

Yeah. That's thing though with shows like this. The main characters can't really die or if they do they come back in some form. Also they always find a way to win....

I think SG1 ended very well leaving the Ori story open.

[PuddleJumper67]

Can’t wait for tonight’s episode, LIFELINE. Very curious to see how their mission goes on the Replicator homeworld. Any thoughts? http://i231.photobucket.com/albums/ee71/PuddleJumper67/Lifeline2.jpg

[Happenstance]

Many thoughts, but thats coz ive seen it already

[TheCorpulent1]

Yay, Sam actually gets to interact with the Atlantisites this time. :up:

[LexCorp]

Can’t wait for tonight’s episode, LIFELINE. Very curious to see how their mission goes on the Replicator homeworld. Any thoughts? http://i231.photobucket.com/albums/ee71/PuddleJumper67/Lifeline2.jpg

Hell yes that looks great!!

[TheCorpulent1]

"Lifeline" was decent. Nothing too surprising or spectacular. I was initially hoping Sam would take over as head of Atlantis this episode, but after thinking about it I'm glad she didn't. I could see a good episode coming out of Shep assuming he'll take over, then having to deal with the fact that the IOA appoints Carter instead. I read an interview with Joe Flanigan where he basically said that Sam's character is too perfect and too nice, so it's been hard for them to come up with conflicts around her that don't feel forced. Shep's shattered expectations about leading Atlantis and being able to focus its resources fully on finding Weir is a good way to create some conflict.

[Dugath]

I'm curious about what the new Stargate series will be. The SG-1 movies are pretty much done and Atlantis' new season has started; time for some new Stargate series spoilers. :up:

I think I Would like a SG show based upon a group of people, not super smart or the ultimate fighter type, but average/above average scientists and soldiers perhaps 2 or so civilians get "Lost" in the Gate system.

I know there are a few problems with it.. such as.. oh they would just dial home.. so they would either have to have no direct knowledge of the SG program (so they do not know the addresses) or due to some cosmic accident are flung so far away they can not gate home.

They can meet and be joined by a local civilian(s) who know some addressed and they travel planet to planet having adventures while obtaining new address to travel to in order to continue their search for home.

I know there are holes but hey I just spent a whole 2 mins thinking of this lol

[ROOR]

I think I Would like a SG show based upon a group of people, not super smart or the ultimate fighter type, but average/above average scientists and soldiers perhaps 2 or so civilians get "Lost" in the Gate system.

I know there are a few problems with it.. such as.. oh they would just dial home.. so they would either have to have no direct knowledge of the SG program (so they do not know the addresses) or due to some cosmic accident are flung so far away they can not gate home.

They can meet and be joined by a local civilian(s) who know some addressed and they travel planet to planet having adventures while obtaining new address to travel to in order to continue their search for home.

I know there are holes but hey I just spent a whole 2 mins thinking of this lol

This sounds an awful lot like sliders but then I was second guessing myself, and then I realized, that it sounds more like the new Flash Gordon.

I am glad that they didn't just hand everything over to Carter right there. Plus I think giving the replicators a new target could make for some interesting new battles.

[TheCorpulent1]

I'm pretty sure the Atlantis team is going to team up with the Replicators against the Wraith at some point now.

[GhostPoet]

Personally, I think so far this has been the best season of SGA yet. I actually enjoy SGA more than SG1 and I have since the last season...
It's a great Stargate series...

[TheCorpulent1]

I don't know about the "best season yet" after just two episodes, but it's been good. Season 2 is still the best season of SGA for me. I was glued to my TV almost every week.

[Happenstance]

Ghostpoet thats the second time you seem to have said something like that. It may very well turn out to be the best SGA season yet but at least give it a chance to proove it one way or the other.

Its like when you said:

Man, Atlantis has really come back big time...the show is darker, better characters and just over-all better stories so far.

Now saying this after one episode, you cant really use stories can you? :p Maybe the current story but dont go throwing plurals at us.

[LexCorp]

I think I Would like a SG show based upon a group of people, not super smart or the ultimate fighter type, but average/above average scientists and soldiers perhaps 2 or so civilians get "Lost" in the Gate system.

I know there are a few problems with it.. such as.. oh they would just dial home.. so they would either have to have no direct knowledge of the SG program (so they do not know the addresses) or due to some cosmic accident are flung so far away they can not gate home.

They can meet and be joined by a local civilian(s) who know some addressed and they travel planet to planet having adventures while obtaining new address to travel to in order to continue their search for home.

I know there are holes but hey I just spent a whole 2 mins thinking of this lol

Not far form the idea of Sliders....instead of other dimensions other worlds and they can't get home but the keep sliding...

[PuddleJumper67]

Episode 4, Doppelganger -- I hope this is gonna be Stargate Atlantis meets “Nightmare on Elm Street.” I’m sure that Weir will somehow factor into somebody’s nightmares.

[Dr Lee]

I've seen it. Not sure if i should post some VERY mild spoilers or not....

[OobeDoobBenubi]

I’m sure that Weir will somehow factor into somebody’s nightmares.

Weir is not in this episode

[LexCorp]

I've seen it. Not sure if i should post some VERY mild spoilers or not....

Go ahead as long as they are in tags it's cool.

[Dr Lee]

OK... TBH all i was going to say was that the episode included two WTF-shock moments They are-

the Alien rip-off with what i thought was a replicator bursting out of Teylas stomach and Heightmeyers death from falling off the main tower

And a WTF-Funny moment that contains a clown.

Oh yeah Lorne returns.

[PuddleJumper67]

"Sheppard is captured by the inhabitants of a generational ship and their beautiful leader, who wish to use his ability to use Ancient technology for their own ends." I’m curious to see what they want to use the technology for. Also looking forward to Jill Wagner’s guest spot – she was on "Punk’d" and "Blade: The Series."
http://i231.photobucket.com/albums/ee71/PuddleJumper67/TravelersPic.jpg

[Dr Lee]

Sweet pic....

More importatnly for us SGA watchers-

Season Five is a go!

Sci-fi has ordered another 20 episodes. Incidently that means that the S5 finale is the 100th SGA episode.

Wonder what they'll do for it:huh: Maybe a SG-1 X-over?

[wiegeabo]

Sweet pic....

More importatnly for us SGA watchers-

Season Five is a go!

Sci-fi has ordered another 20 episodes. Incidently that means that the S5 finale is the 100th SGA episode.

Wonder what they'll do for it:huh: Maybe a SG-1 X-over?

Awesome news!:word:

[GhostPoet]

Sweet pic....

More importatnly for us SGA watchers-

Season Five is a go!

Sci-fi has ordered another 20 episodes. Incidently that means that the S5 finale is the 100th SGA episode.

Wonder what they'll do for it:huh: Maybe a SG-1 X-over?

Not suprising considering how great this season of SGA has been!

[Gold Samurai]

. SG-1 lasted 5 seasons on scifi. I'll stop worrying when Atlantis gets to season 6

[LexCorp]

So glad it has started back up again. We get it on Sky in the UK.

[OobeDoobBenubi]

Create your own phone message from Rodney McKay

http://stargate.mgm.com/mckay-vms.html

[LexCorp]

Create your own phone message from Rodney McKay

http://stargate.mgm.com/mckay-vms.html

Oh that is frackin sweet!

[ROOR]

Don't know if anyone posted or cares, but I've seen General Hammond twice this week. He was on last week's Flash Gordon (which isn't too promising) but he also played a character on last night's Supernatural. I always liked him, so it was nice to see him getting some work.

[TheCorpulent1]

He seems to be on everything that films in Vancouver at least once or twice. He was on The Dead Zone for a few episodes, and I'm pretty sure I've seen him on The 4400, too.

[ROOR]

Hmph, that's cool. I don't watch dead zone, and I guess I must have just missed him on 4400, it's not something I watch religiously. Hopefully that's his last Flash Gordon appearance, because they had him playing this over the top editor and it was not his finest work.

[TheCorpulent1]

I saw. My DVR recorded like 10 minutes of Flash Gordon before Atlantis last week for some reason.

[wiegeabo]

I saw. My DVR recorded like 10 minutes of Flash Gordon before Atlantis last week for some reason.

Probably because Flash and Atlantis have been running long this season. Flash usually ends around 8:05.

[PuddleJumper67]

"Making Space" -- Special effects supervisor Wray Douglas gives a behind-the-scenes look at space simulation. Check it out:
http://stargate.mgm.com/video.php?id=74

[Dr Lee]

New Mallozzi Blog entry....
>NEW! October 4 - "Looks like tomorrow will be a doozy that will see 'The Last Man' wrapping late, late, late -- or early, early, early depending on how you look at it. On tap: triage, battle action, on the bridge of the Phoenix."
(Executive producer Joseph Mallozzi, in a post at his blog)

Phoenix? New ship? <

:wow: Eh?

[Lord Blackbolt]

I'd like a stargate show set many years in the future. And the whole world knows of the gate

[Superfreak]

I'd like a stargate show set many years in the future. And the whole world knows of the gate


I'd go even further. I'd like to see a show set around the time when we puny humans are the ancients... and we, or whats left of us, have to help the next big species survive in the universe.

[PuddleJumper67]

New update to the SGA online video game – Sheppard must get rid of the Wraith that have snuck onboard. Find a gun, then get rid of all the Wraith.

http://stargate.mgm.com/games/index.html

[TheCorpulent1]

I'd like a stargate show set many years in the future. And the whole world knows of the gate
I'd go even further. I'd like to see a show set around the time when we puny humans are the ancients... and we, or whats left of us, have to help the next big species survive in the universe.
I'd just like another Earth-based Stargate show. Atlantis is nice, but they went from one planet mostly covered in water to another planet mostly covered in water between last season and this one. That's nowhere near as cool or interesting as the Cheyenne complex.

Alternatively, it'd be cool to see Atlantis act as a ship for longer, coasting through space and hanging out. The energy required would be enormous, but just have the expedition stumble onto a ZPM factory planet or something. Atlantis in space would've been sweet if it lasted more than like 50 minutes between two episodes.

[LexCorp]

I'd just like another Earth-based Stargate show. Atlantis is nice, but they went from one planet mostly covered in water to another planet mostly covered in water between last season and this one. That's nowhere near as cool or interesting as the Cheyenne complex.

Alternatively, it'd be cool to see Atlantis act as a ship for longer, coasting through space and hanging out. The energy required would be enormous, but just have the expedition stumble onto a ZPM factory planet or something. Atlantis in space would've been sweet if it lasted more than like 50 minutes between two episodes.

Yes that would have been cool. They could have simply landed the planet where they wanted to and have all sorts of adventures. :cwink:

[TheCorpulent1]

Well, that would be a bit odd, but they could easily go into a geosynchronous orbit and gate down to whatever planet they want.

[wiegeabo]

Who here's seen A Dog's Breakfast?

I just got through watching it. That movie killed me. I had to pause it so many times because I was laughing so hard. Even more proof that David Hewlett's a genius. Everyone did a great job.

[LexCorp]

Well, that would be a bit odd, but they could easily go into a geosynchronous orbit and gate down to whatever planet they want.

Odd how so? City ships land places all the time. :cwink:

[TheCorpulent1]

Well, Atlantis seems a bit unwieldy to constantly land and then take off all the time. Plus, we know from last season's finale that breaking orbit requires a ginormous amount of energy. Why bother wasting all those ZPMs when they could just comfortably float around in space, where gravity's not a factor, and gate down or take jumpers?

[GhostPoet]

Well, Atlantis seems a bit unwieldy to constantly land and then take off all the time. Plus, we know from last season's finale that breaking orbit requires a ginormous amount of energy. Why bother wasting all those ZPMs when they could just comfortably float around in space, where gravity's not a factor, and gate down or take jumpers?


Well that....and floating around in space has a lot more negatives. Sure, you can travel around more...but you always have to worry about what if something drains the shields? Or Wraith sneak in and deactivate the EMP's...at least on a planet they don't need to worry about all the things that could go wrong in the void of space. :)

[PuddleJumper67]

Anyone think we’ll see more of Dr. Keller in this episode? I also heard that Zach Selwyn (G4's Attack of the Show) will make a cameo.
http://i231.photobucket.com/albums/ee71/PuddleJumper67/TabulaRasa.jpg

[TheCorpulent1]

Well that....and floating around in space has a lot more negatives. Sure, you can travel around more...but you always have to worry about what if something drains the shields? Or Wraith sneak in and deactivate the EMP's...at least on a planet they don't need to worry about all the things that could go wrong in the void of space. :)
As long as they've got enough ZPMs to maintain the shields, they'd be fine. That was really the only problem they had at the end of last season and the beginning of this one: no power. If they'd had 3 fully charged ZPMs, they could've easily survived in space with the entire city shielded for a lot longer.

[Dr Lee]

Yikes Carter is looking rough....

My guess is that as the episode contains a virus/thingie outbreak then Keller will be up front and centre.

Not heard about the Cameo by whats-his-name

[Lord Blackbolt]

Carter looks better with longer hair to me....and thank god they got rid of Weir. I couldn't stand looking at her ugly face. I'm sorry....was that shallow?

[LexCorp]

Carter looks better with longer hair to me....and thank god they got rid of Weir. I couldn't stand looking at her ugly face. I'm sorry....was that shallow?

Ugly face! Not shallow but a bit harsh. She was just not on the really good level of T&A but anyway....

Carters long hair is better.

[TheCorpulent1]

Long-haired Carter > Weir. But I never really hated Weir. She just never seemed to do much. Carter hasn't done all that much herself so far. Maybe it's just the leadership position.

[LexCorp]

Long-haired Carter > Weir. But I never really hated Weir. She just never seemed to do much. Carter hasn't done all that much herself so far. Maybe it's just the leadership position.

Well that and Weir was the grounded civi that wanted to reason with everything...she just got hate because she got in the way.

[PuddleJumper67]

Do you think most of Sheppard's decisions are reckless or are they smart? For example, in "Travelers," he sent the S.O.S. signal and enabled his team to find him...but he also attracted the Wraith's attention.

[LexCorp]

Do you think most of Sheppard's decisions are reckless or are they smart? For example, in "Travelers," he sent the S.O.S. signal and enabled his team to find him...but he also attracted the Wraith's attention.

Neither, the dude just thinks fast and it is not always the right choice to make. But hey as long as Mckay is around he will be fine.

[TheCorpulent1]

Yeah, I think Sheppard acts more on instinct and doesn't think all of his decisions through too carefully. When he needs to think things through, however, he does.

[LexCorp]

Yeah, I think Sheppard acts more on instinct and doesn't think all of his decisions through too carefully. When he needs to think things through, however, he does.

Indeed, I still can not belive the lack of sex on these shows...or rather the lack of relationships building up...

[LadyVader]

Well they tried to push Sam and Jack in that direction and it didn't turn out so well...

[TheCorpulent1]

I'm glad they never consummated anything on screen, except in alternate realities and time loops. The Stargates aren't about sex or relationships or romance; I'm not even all that fond of Sheppard's oft-mentioned Captain Kirk syndrome with the alien ladies. There's enough of that in other shows to go around. I like when the focus is more on exploration and innovating ways to deal with problems.

[LexCorp]

I'm glad they never consummated anything on screen, except in alternate realities and time loops. The Stargates aren't about sex or relationships or romance; I'm not even all that fond of Sheppard's oft-mentioned Captain Kirk syndrome with the alien ladies. There's enough of that in other shows to go around. I like when the focus is more on exploration and innovating ways to deal with problems.

I guess I am just talking from my penis then

[LadyVader]

It... it talks!?

:)

[LexCorp]

It... it talks!?

:)

For you baby it could!

Just kidding I'm not really that self centerd.

[wiegeabo]

It... it talks!?

:)

Doesn't everybody's? :confused:

[LexCorp]

Doesn't everybody's? :confused:

Oh yes!

[LadyVader]

Well that makes a lot of sense because a lot of times guys on hype act like complete di#$s. Present company excluded of course.

[LexCorp]

Well that makes a lot of sense because a lot of times guys on hype act like complete di#$s. Present company excluded of course.

Awww how sweet. I think found a new member for my buddy list. :yay:

[wiegeabo]

Well that makes a lot of sense because a lot of times guys on hype act like complete di#$s. Present company excluded of course.

Hey, guys do have two brains. :hyper:

It's just that one of them is an absolute idiot. :csad:

[LexCorp]

Hey, guys do have two brains. :hyper:

It's just that one of them is an absolute idiot. :csad:

Well woman have one...but they can't multitask ;)

[LadyVader]

But we can have multiple orgasms. :D

[Superfreak]

But we can have multiple orgasms. :D


don't discount those of us who are freaky

[LexCorp]

But we can have multiple orgasms. :D

Me too :woot: