The New Improved Official Stupid Question Thread Marvel Edition

[The Question]

Why Do DC fans always call their villians a "Rogues Gallery"??

And nobody uses this for marvel comics...

It sounds like all their heroes fight a bunch of pirates or something..

A "Rogues Gallery" is an old term for an assortment of photographs in a police station of wanted criminals. And while I have used the term and have heard others use the term for Marvel villains, I think it's more closely associated with DC because they actually have a villain group, The Rogues, who use the name for themselves.

[Varient]

Meh.

I thought for sure there would be questions about that last nova issue,....

Shucks,... Had all my little arguements in place an' everything.

:word:

[DawnWarrior]

A "Rogues Gallery" is an old term for an assortment of photographs in a police station of wanted criminals. And while I have used the term and have heard others use the term for Marvel villains, I think it's more closely associated with DC because they actually have a villain group, The Rogues, who use the name for themselves.
I remember an episode of Batman:TAS where Penquin says, regarding Two-Face, "I'd never kidnap a fellow rogue. It just isn't done."

[The Question]

I remember an episode of Batman:TAS where Penquin says, regarding Two-Face, "I'd never kidnap a fellow rogue. It just isn't done."

Rogue is also a general term for a criminal.

[TheCorpulent1]

Meh.

I thought for sure there would be questions about that last nova issue,....

Shucks,... Had all my little arguements in place an' everything.

:word:
Questions like what? :huh:

[Varient]

Questions like what? :huh:

(Smile)

Like when the Surfer first struck,... Rich didn't have a clue what hit him.
Why? Rich Rider in addition to having the ability to move and react at hyperlight speeds would need the senses to travel safely at those speeds. Surfer wasn't stealthed in any way.

How come so much shake up on being hit? Up to this point I thought Rich was tough enough to easily take the punishment.

How can Galactus Feeding so completly Disrupt Nova's ability to leave the planet?


I was All set,.....

[moraldeficiency]

you can always ask and answer your own questions if you'd like, I personally feel it would be theraputic for you.

[Varient]

you can always ask and answer your own questions if you'd like, I personally feel it would be theraputic for you.

?
The point here was that I had the answers ready.
for others who would ask.

Meh.

[Vanguard07]

Okay then. What are the answers? (I'm helping)

[Varient]

Okay then. What are the answers? (I'm helping)

Answer one: The reason why the Rich was surprised: Allocation of the Nova Power sets.

Marvel seems to be running the utilization of his powersets like a military vessel does. He brings up and shuts down functions as needed. On a military ship this is because of limited resources or structural strength limitations.

Example: If they operate in the same frequency range - Long and short Range radar are on the same mast,.. but are not running at the same time - usually because:
1. The hetrodine effects of having that much power running parallel to each other would make hash of whatever was recieved.

2. Most ships have only so much power they can allocate to the sensor array at any one time.

3. Running both while close to each orther at the same time could damage a part or all of both systems.

4. They share a critical piece of equiptment that can't handle the power demands.

Saying all that to say this:

When Rich Goes FTL,.. he gives the same commands each time in the same order,... setting up fields to bend space and get going with his FTL senses coming on line to keep him from running into stuff.

He was in "sublight" mode when the Surfer hit him.

V.

[TheCorpulent1]

Why couldn't Richie have been surprised because the Surfer just blindsided him? It's not like he pays attention to any of the Worldmind's warnings anyway.

[Silicon Surfer]

Given the Surfer's energy manipulation abilities it is quite likely that he can use a stealth mode when he wants to. Simply increasing his normal absorption of ambient energy would render him harder to detect. Besides even if detection works, responding to an ftl attack would be difficult.

[Phenomenal]

Which do you guys beleive to be the strongest "Soul Gem?"

Reality, Power, Soul, Time, Space, Mind, or Ego?

[BAH HUMBBUG!]

Well well well, look who it is again. Soul. It is stated that it is the only one truly deserving of the title.

[Phenomenal]

Well well well, look who it is again. Soul. It is stated that it is the only one truly deserving of the title.

Yep, It's me...IT'S SUMMER TIME BABY!!!!

Why do you choose soul Gem?

[BAH HUMBBUG!]

I just told you. It is stated in the comics. But to be honest it really depends on who is using what Gem. It really comes down to how well the wielder can use it.

[Phenomenal]

Where was it stated? And do you know why it was stated?

[BAH HUMBBUG!]

Thanos states it during The Thanos Quest. Yes, he gives a reason why but I can't remember what he said.

[Phenomenal]

So, in order how would you rank the Gems? Starting with Soul?

[BAH HUMBBUG!]

I already said, it depends on the user and how well he/she/the being can utilize them and bring their full potential out.

[Silicon Surfer]

Personally I think that the time gem is the most powerful. With the ability to stop and even reverse time as well as the power to change the past you could defeat virtually anybody. Even a person with another gem would be virtually helpless because you could determine what they were going to do before they even decided and reach into the past and change the situation any way you wanted. But control over the power of your gem is sorta important.

[BAH HUMBBUG!]

Edit

[BAH HUMBBUG!]

Yeah that's why I said it. I mean if someone like Thanos was using each individually then it's a different story. But even still, being able to look into the depths of someone's soul can be extremely powerful in the right/wrong hands.

Also why the hell did Marvel feel the need to create the Ego gem? Ego is part of the mind. Stupid! :mad:

[Silicon Surfer]

Also why the hell did Marvel feel the need to create the Ego gem? Ego is part of the mind. Stupid! :mad:

That's what retcons are for.

[BAH HUMBBUG!]

Did they retcon it?

[Silicon Surfer]

Did they retcon it?

Not yet that I know of but they should. They way they are retconning things there may be a decent chance someone will eventually

[CBG]

Ego Gem's destroyed by the other Infinity Gems, last I heard.

[Varient]

Ego Gem's destroyed by the other Infinity Gems, last I heard.

http://www.marvunapp.com/Appendix/nemesise.htm

[Varient]

History
The first Gem to be seen in continuity is Soul, [2] with all six being seen for the first time during the first Thanos War. [3] They were seen years later by the Silver Surfer and referred to as the Soul Gems. [4] It is not until Thanos retrieves the entire set that the Gems are referred to as Infinity Gems. [5]

Discovering the true potential of the gems, Thanos explains to the Runner that the gems are actually the remains of a once omnipotent but lonely being. Attempts to create other life forms failed as the creations had no concept of good or evil and devolved into beasts. Realizing its error, the being destroyed the flawed creations and committed suicide, being unable to endure eternity alone. A fraction of this being remained, however, and became the Infinity Gems. Taking the Gems from the In-Betweener and the Elders of the Universe - a fatal experience for some - Thanos uses them to create the Infinity Gauntlet, a glove set with all six gems.

Thanos becomes the equivalent of God, but a series of doubts within himself spelled his downfall. [6] Nebula also tries to wield the Infinity Gauntlet, but her inexperience proves her undoing. Following the events of the Infinity Gauntlet, the Living Tribunal declares that the Infinity Gems can no longer be used in unison. When the gems are separated they are distributed to the individual members of the Infinity Watch. [7] The Magus later manages to have the Tribunal's decision temporarily overturned and collects and reunites the gems, although he is defeated when the Reality Gem proves to be a fake. [8] Eventually, the gems are stolen by the extradimensional vampire Rune and dispersed through the Ultraverse. [9]

The god Loki enters the Ultraverse and recollects the gems. He discovers the existence of a seventh gem - Ego -, and that all seven were originally extracted from the consciousness of a cosmic being known as Nemesis. The Ego gem, possessing the Eternal Sersi, merges with the other gems to reform Nemesis and battle the Avengers and Ultraforce. [10] Upon Nemesis' defeat the gems temporarily gain independent consciousness, and some even manifest as physical entities, although the transformation has since been reversed. [11]


[edit] Recent appearances
The World Devourer Galactus collects all six Infinity Gems for the purpose of ending his need to consume planets. The gambit fails, and instead allows a deadly, inter-dimensional parasite access into the Marvel Universe. In the chaos that follows the gems are scattered once more - save for the Soul Gem - which Thanos retains for Adam Warlock. [12]

In the JLA/Avengers crossover, the Infinity Gems were one of 12 featured items of power. The villain Darkseid obtains the Gauntlet, but discards it upon discovering that the gems do not work in the DC universe. [13]

Recently, the Infinity Gems are revealed to be in the possession of the Illuminati. [14] Reed Richards and the Illuminati gather the Gems and the Gauntlet and decide to will the objects out of existence to prevent them from ever being used again. The Watcher Uatu, however, reveals that the Gems must exist as part of the cosmic balance. The Gems are then separated and each is placed in the care of an Illuminati member, who have vowed to never use them or reveal their location. (See Description above).

[BAH HUMBBUG!]

History
The first Gem to be seen in continuity is Soul, [2] with all six being seen for the first time during the first Thanos War. [3] They were seen years later by the Silver Surfer and referred to as the Soul Gems. [4] It is not until Thanos retrieves the entire set that the Gems are referred to as Infinity Gems. [5]

Discovering the true potential of the gems, Thanos explains to the Runner that the gems are actually the remains of a once omnipotent but lonely being. Attempts to create other life forms failed as the creations had no concept of good or evil and devolved into beasts. Realizing its error, the being destroyed the flawed creations and committed suicide, being unable to endure eternity alone. A fraction of this being remained, however, and became the Infinity Gems. Taking the Gems from the In-Betweener and the Elders of the Universe - a fatal experience for some - Thanos uses them to create the Infinity Gauntlet, a glove set with all six gems.

Thanos becomes the equivalent of God, but a series of doubts within himself spelled his downfall. [6] Nebula also tries to wield the Infinity Gauntlet, but her inexperience proves her undoing. Following the events of the Infinity Gauntlet, the Living Tribunal declares that the Infinity Gems can no longer be used in unison. When the gems are separated they are distributed to the individual members of the Infinity Watch. [7] The Magus later manages to have the Tribunal's decision temporarily overturned and collects and reunites the gems, although he is defeated when the Reality Gem proves to be a fake. [8] Eventually, the gems are stolen by the extradimensional vampire Rune and dispersed through the Ultraverse. [9]

The god Loki enters the Ultraverse and recollects the gems. He discovers the existence of a seventh gem - Ego -, and that all seven were originally extracted from the consciousness of a cosmic being known as Nemesis. The Ego gem, possessing the Eternal Sersi, merges with the other gems to reform Nemesis and battle the Avengers and Ultraforce. [10] Upon Nemesis' defeat the gems temporarily gain independent consciousness, and some even manifest as physical entities, although the transformation has since been reversed. [11]

Stupid! :mad:


[edit] Recent appearances
The World Devourer Galactus collects all six Infinity Gems for the purpose of ending his need to consume planets. The gambit fails, and instead allows a deadly, inter-dimensional parasite access into the Marvel Universe. In the chaos that follows the gems are scattered once more - save for the Soul Gem - which Thanos retains for Adam Warlock. [12]

Stupid! :mad:

In the JLA/Avengers crossover, the Infinity Gems were one of 12 featured items of power. The villain Darkseid obtains the Gauntlet, but discards it upon discovering that the gems do not work in the DC universe. [13]

Recently, the Infinity Gems are revealed to be in the possession of the Illuminati. [14] Reed Richards and the Illuminati gather the Gems and the Gauntlet and decide to will the objects out of existence to prevent them from ever being used again. The Watcher Uatu, however, reveals that the Gems must exist as part of the cosmic balance. The Gems are then separated and each is placed in the care of an Illuminati member, who have vowed to never use them or reveal their location. (See Description above).
This could be interesting, but most likely outcome. Stupid! :mad:



Thanks Varient :up:

[Phenomenal]

So I wonder if someone like Batman got a hold of a couple of Gems would they work for him (I know in actuality he would never use them) but for the sake of discussion, would he be able to use them and how powerful would the Gem be utilized? Now that the Gems can't work in unison anymore.

[TheCorpulent1]

Batman would be pretty powerful with the gems. The smarter and more resourceful a person is, the better they can use the gems. That's why Drax sucked with the Power Gem while Thanos kicked pretty much everybody's ass with it.

[BAH HUMBBUG!]

Batman would be pretty powerful with the gems. The smarter and more resourceful a person is, the better they can use the gems. That's why Drax sucked with the Power Gem while Thanos kicked pretty much everybody's ass with it.

Except

A) They don't work in the DC Universe at all.

B) It goes Batman with preptime>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>God>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>Infinity Gems.

So Batman doesn't even need them. :up:

[THANOSRULES]

That's because they are pirates. They are all pirates. :up:


These kind of pirates???

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3AzpByR3MvI


??:wow:

[BAH HUMBBUG!]

LMFAO haha. Yes, just like that. They are all pirates. :D :up:

[TheCorpulent1]

They actually encourage children to watch that show? :(

[ReturnToTheEve]

Ok This may count as a stupid question....Ive been out of the Marvel Universe for quite a few years...I was wondering whats the best book (s) to pick up to attempt to catch up? Thanks in advance!

[ReturnToTheEve]

Ok This may count as a stupid question....Ive been out of the Marvel Universe for quite a few years...I was wondering whats the best book (s) to pick up to attempt to catch up? Thanks in advance!

[TheCorpulent1]

You'd be better off just picking up whatever looks interesting and filling in the rest through Wikipedia. There's nothing that really gives a rundown of everything that's happened in the last few years.

[ReturnToTheEve]

Thank you Corpulent1..i guess that make the most sense. Ill check out the current books.:liz:

[CBG]

Indeed.

Wikipedia is more or less a good way for easing back into comic continuity basics, but by no means a substitute.

[ReturnToTheEve]

yeah...i guess im gonna have to drop a pretty penny catching up...

[TheCorpulent1]

Thank you Corpulent1..i guess that make the most sense. Ill check out the current books.:liz:
If you tell us what heroes or genres you're interested in, I'm sure plenty of people would be happy to give you recommendations, too. My personal favorite Marvel comics at the moment are Incredible Hercules, Thor, Captain America, Nova, Guardians of the Galaxy, Captain Britain and MI-13, and Avengers: The Initiative.

Avengers: The Initiative is currently probably the most central of those to the Marvel universe, so you might want to pick up the trades and start there. All you need to know is that Iron Man and Captain America split the superhero community into two groups and fought over a controversial superhuman registration law in Civil War, the law ultimately passed, and the Initiative is the USA's new organization that trains and monitors superhumans; it's run jointly by the Commission on Superhuman Activities and SHIELD.

[ReturnToTheEve]

I do like a the cosmic side of Marvel. Some very interesting characters out there. Ive always been a fan of Capt. America, so that Avengers sounds like a good place to catch up. Anything going on with Marvel monsters? Man-thing? Thanks again..i really appreciate the help!

[TheCorpulent1]

There's a MAX series called Dead of Night that is currently featuring Man-Thing. MAX is Marvel's imprint aimed at older readers--it has cursing and more gore and nudity and such. The focus of Dead of Night is set to shift to Devil-Slayer soon, though, so you may want to just wait for the trade of the Man-Thing volume.

[ReturnToTheEve]

Once again thanks...ill be looking for that trade!

[Vanguard07]

If you tell us what heroes or genres you're interested in, I'm sure plenty of people would be happy to give you recommendations, too. My personal favorite Marvel comics at the moment are Incredible Hercules, Thor, Captain America, Nova, Guardians of the Galaxy, Captain Britain and MI-13, and Avengers: The Initiative.



Throw in Iron Fist and i'm 100% with you on that list friend.

[TheCorpulent1]

I didn't want to recommend Iron Fist because it's just about to undergo a major creative change.

[Vanguard07]

Fair enough. Still awesome right now though.

[Anubis]

Until after next issue.

[najnaimik23]

can anyone tell me about the guilt hulk and devil hulk please?

[BAH HUMBBUG!]

They are both parts of Banners/the Hulk's mind. I am not aware of them ever manifesting themselves physically at any point in time. But I believe they first came about during the mid/late 90's run where Banner and the Hulk were merged as the Professor Hulk.

[BAH HUMBBUG!]

Does anyone know when The Living Tribunal went from being just a cosmic being/entity to being the overseerer of all multi-verses and be the representative of God?

[CBG]

Somewhere in the later pages of Dr. Strange.

[najnaimik23]

They are both parts of Banners/the Hulk's mind. I am not aware of them ever manifesting themselves physically at any point in time. But I believe they first came about during the mid/late 90's run where Banner and the Hulk were merged as the Professor Hulk.

the guilt and devil hulk is the stronger hulk right?

[najnaimik23]

anyone knows where i can find the fight between tyrant against Silver surfer, morg. terrax and thanos etc.?????

[DBM]

the guilt and devil hulk is the stronger hulk right?

It's a meaningless question. They were nothing more than images in his mind so we have no method of guessing how strong they would be if they were real.

[najnaimik23]

It's a meaningless question. They were nothing more than images in his mind so we have no method of guessing how strong they would be if they were real.

ohhh ok thanks dude.

[Docker2.0]

On the 90s Xmen cartoon when the villians are running towards the Xmen in the opening theme, is that Warpath running beside Sabretooth and Juggernaut?

[DBM]

On the 90s Xmen cartoon when the villians are running towards the Xmen in the opening theme, is that Warpath running beside Sabretooth and Juggernaut?

Yes. In the comics he started out blaming the X-Men for his brother’s death. He joined the Hellions to get revenge. Other than being in the credits, he only made one cameo appearance in the cartoon as a slave on Genosha if I remember correctly.

[THANOSRULES]

Has New Warriors been officially announced as canceled?

[Colossal Spoons]

Not that I know of

[Docker2.0]

Has New Warriors been officially announced as canceled?

No but it's coming. :o


Thanks for the answer DBM. I knew I couldn't remember him being on the show.

[The Question]

What to Daniel Rand and Warren Worthington's companies do, exactly? I know Rand builds trains, but I'm wondering if his company just makes trains, or has a more general purpose.

[Anubis]

He'd have to do more, trains aren't the money making machines they once were.

[THANOSRULES]

stocks and such probably.

most foundations are like "we made a decent amount of money SOMEHOW" , but we diversified into good stock/investment choices and make tons more.

[thorandsurfer]

Who made mjolnir?

[BrianWilly]

Odin commissioned it from dwarves.

[fifthfiend]

What to Daniel Rand and Warren Worthington's companies do, exactly? I know Rand builds trains, but I'm wondering if his company just makes trains, or has a more general purpose.

I assume it's something like General Motors or Westinghouse or somesuch that has a whole range of interests. Military contracting, consumer goods, maybe heavy industrial equipment, that kind of ****. Rand Corp turned up in Cable/Deadpool when it turned out they built something that Nate needed for that inter-tele-techno-telekinesis setup he put together, so we know they've got some degree of high-level technology/electronics R&D.

[DBM]

I assume it's something like General Motors or Westinghouse or somesuch that has a whole range of interests. Military contracting, consumer goods, maybe heavy industrial equipment, that kind of ****. Rand Corp turned up in Cable/Deadpool when it turned out they built something that Nate needed for that inter-tele-techno-telekinesis setup he put together, so we know they've got some degree of high-level technology/electronics R&D.

I'd say that's probably right for the most part. Businesses like Rand, Stark, or Oracle (Namor's former company, now a part of Rand I think) probably are like those. GE would probably be a good example. Mostly focused around manufacturing of products.

I've always expected that many of the company's owned by superhero's are more like Berkshire Hathaway (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Berkshire_Hathaway), the company run by Warren Buffet, though, rather than like GE or others. Berkshire itself is only a holding company that in turn owns a bunch of other companies.

I've always believed, though I don't ever think I've seen it stated, for example that Wayne Enterprises is like this. Considering how varied the businesses that it operates are, it makes sense. Berkshire has clothing manufacturers, insurance agencies, retailers, furniture makers, newspapers, restaurants, etc. This sounds a lot like Wayne Enterprises to me.

[The Question]

I'd say that's probably right for the most part. Businesses like Rand, Stark, or Oracle (Namor's former company, now a part of Rand I think) probably are like those. GE would probably be a good example. Mostly focused around manufacturing of products.

I've always expected that many of the company's owned by superhero's are more like Berkshire Hathaway (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Berkshire_Hathaway), the company run by Warren Buffet, though, rather than like GE or others. Berkshire itself is only a holding company that in turn owns a bunch of other companies.

I've always believed, though I don't ever think I've seen it stated, for example that Wayne Enterprises is like this. Considering how varied the businesses that it operates are, it makes sense. Berkshire has clothing manufacturers, insurance agencies, retailers, furniture makers, newspapers, restaurants, etc. This sounds a lot like Wayne Enterprises to me.

Yeah. Wayne Enterprises started out as a shipping company, but now they just own a bunch of smaller companies with the name Wayne slapped on them. Hell, Wayne Entertainment owns the Daily Planet.



....I wonder if Bruce every uses that to swing votes at the Justice League meetings.

[thorandsurfer]

Odin commissioned it from dwarves.OK, thanks.

[TheCorpulent1]

Yeah. Wayne Enterprises started out as a shipping company, but now they just own a bunch of smaller companies with the name Wayne slapped on them. Hell, Wayne Entertainment owns the Daily Planet.



....I wonder if Bruce every uses that to swing votes at the Justice League meetings.
Superman: I object to Batman's idea. I say a frontal assault will--
Batman's cell phone: *deet deet deet deet deet deet deet*
Batman: Perry? Hi, it's Bruce Wayne. Oh, just great; I managed a birdie just last week. Anyway, listen, I need you to fire Clark Kent.
Superman: What? Bruce, you can't think that's going to make me back down.
Batman: Hey, throw in Lois Lane and Jimmy Olsen while you're at it. Yeah, in fact, they can never set foot on the premises again.
Superman: ... I hate you.
Batman: I'm Batman.

[Anubis]

Bwahaha

[Vanguard07]

heh. If Batman were like that I'd probably reconsider my no more DC ever stance.

[TheCorpulent1]

You should give All-Star Batman & Robin a try, then. :o

[primemover]

Which of these Superman analogues is the most powerful, Gladiator, Hyperion or The Sentry?

[CBG]

Which Hyperion?

[primemover]

Hrm, original, or is there a big difference between original and the Supreme Power one?

[DBM]

Hrm, original, or is there a big difference between original and the Supreme Power one?

There's been about 4 major versions of Hyperion, not counting the bunch that showed up in Exiles.

And as to who is strongest, I think it'd be hard to say. They've all been show with such varying levels of power that it's difficult to judge. My money would probably be on Sentry nowadays, though Hyperion is probably close.

[Silicon Surfer]

I would say that Gladiator is the most powerful.

[Varient]

I would say that Gladiator is the most powerful.

I agree.

He's limited only by his belief.

[Manic]

Gladiator is currently working for an Emperor who took control of the Shi'ar empire through marriage and a coup. And the guy he stole it from took the empire through a coup. Gladiator's confidence is so shattered right now, he's had him arm broken by a random alien dude, and got b****-slapped by Rachel Summers.

[TheCorpulent1]

Yeah, Gladiator hasn't been the most powerful anything for a long, long time. When a character's been a shadow of his former self for decades, it's time to just let go of the past and accept that he's never going to recapture his former glory.

As for the most powerful analogue, I'd say the Exiles' version of Hyperion. The evil one. He was so powerful it took two alternate Hyperions to even stand a chance against him.

[A.J.Rimmer(BSC)]

The above post is true. Not to mention that Sentry's powers are hardly defined.

[Anubis]

Plus that hype snorted up Holocaust like he was a "party favor" at a Lindsey Lohan garden part.

[TheCorpulent1]

Plus that hype snorted up Holocaust like he was a "party favor" at a Lindsey Lohan garden part.
Which part of the garden?

[Anubis]

Which part of the garden?

The part that has all the coke.

[TheCorpulent1]

Oh, that part's fun.

[BAH HUMBBUG!]

Can Iceman freeze the entire Earth? I mean is there a limit to how much moisture in the air he can freeze over a specific distance?

Also can he do the opposite? Can he only lower the temperature of moisture in the air to freezing or below? Or can he reverse it? If there is ice or he freezes something, can his powers work in reverse to unfreeze it?

[BAH HUMBBUG!]

I agree.

He's limited only by his belief.

I thought there has also been speculation that his abilities may be enhanced by Shi'ar empire technology.

[BrianWilly]

Can Iceman freeze the entire Earth? I mean is there a limit to how much moisture in the air he can freeze over a specific distance?

Also can he do the opposite? Can he only lower the temperature of moisture in the air to freezing or below? Or can he reverse it? If there is ice or he freezes something, can his powers work in reverse to unfreeze it?As an omega-class mutant, he should be able to do all of that. Whether he's capable of doing it, on the other hand, depends almost entirely on how much he's getting shafted by the writers on any given day. He has issues, you see. Deep-seated issues that writers like to bring up every once in a while that prevent him from using his full potential.

He has, in fact, unfrozen things before.

[TheCorpulent1]

Even as an omega-class mutant, I think freezing everything in the world at once would probably put tremendous strain on him--maybe even kill him. He's downplayed a lot, but I don't think he's ever done anything on that scale or had anything suggest he could.

[BrianWilly]

As far as I'm aware -- and, admittedly, I haven't been reading X-Men too closely lately -- nothing has actually put any sort of strain on him for a very long time. The only reason he wouldn't be able to do something with ice is if he himself didn't want to, not because his body has limits. Y'know, that whole "psychological block" excuse that's so popular with mutants.

[BAH HUMBBUG!]

So would something like putting his hand in the Atlantic Ocean and freezing all touching bodies of water be easier for him?

[TheCorpulent1]

As far as I'm aware -- and, admittedly, I haven't been reading X-Men too closely lately -- nothing has actually put any sort of strain on him for a very long time. The only reason he wouldn't be able to do something with ice is if he himself didn't want to, not because his body has limits. Y'know, that whole "psychological block" excuse that's so popular with mutants.
Well, yeah, but by that same token, he hasn't really done anything on the scale Humbbug asked about in the comics lately, as far as I'm aware. If he freezes a continent with a wave of his hand someday, I might amend my opinion. I haven't seen anything to indicate he can, though.

[BrianWilly]

The indication is that he is a confirmed omega-class mutant. It's not a question of him ever having done it before. He could, if he wanted to. He has that potential.

So would something like putting his hand in the Atlantic Ocean and freezing all touching bodies of water be easier for him?Well, no, I wouldn't say it'd be easy, or easier. It depends on his own level of control, which at this moment fluctuates depending on a variety of things.

[primemover]

What is the most ubiquitous power in the Marvel Universe.

[BrianWilly]

Before M-day? I'd say telepathy, because every mutant and their grandmothers seemed like they had some sort of mental whatsis.

After M-day, I'd...y'know, I'd probably still say telepathy, because now it seems like anyone and their grandmothers could simply hire out for a telepath. SHIELD, SWORD, Hydra, AIM, the Initiative, etc etc, all have a seemingly endless supply of psi-capable agents.

[Dr. Fate]

I'm behind on my Ultimates - is the Ultimate version of Captain America physically stronger/tougher/superior to the mainstream/616 Captain America?

[TheCorpulent1]

Yes, Ultimate Cap has bona fide super-strength while 616 Cap is just at the peak of human strength.

[Anubis]

Bet you they make him strong in the movie.

[TheCorpulent1]

It wouldn't surprise me. Kind of lame, but it's easier to visualize super-strength than it is to visualize peak-human strength. As long as they get the acrobatics down right and don't make him a jingoistic cockbag like Ultimate Cap, I'll be okay with it.

[Anubis]

Yeah i'd be cool with it as long as it's actually Cap not, Cap extreme!!

[TheCorpulent1]

That's the thing that worries me most about the Avengers movie. I know it'll draw from the Ultimates, but I hope it won't draw too much.

At least we know Iron Man's already all set and true to his 616 character. The Hulk's mostly good, although I still don't like the TV origin. But, on the other hand, it's pretty tough to screw up the Hulk as a character.

[DBM]

Before M-day? I'd say telepathy, because every mutant and their grandmothers seemed like they had some sort of mental whatsis.

After M-day, I'd...y'know, I'd probably still say telepathy, because now it seems like anyone and their grandmothers could simply hire out for a telepath. SHIELD, SWORD, Hydra, AIM, the Initiative, etc etc, all have a seemingly endless supply of psi-capable agents.

Well, some of the telepaths with SHIELD, SWORD, etc. might not be mutants. They could have been made into telepaths through technology. SHIELD has done that in the past.

[BrianWilly]

Right, which still means it's the most ubiquitous superpower. It’s a stark contrast to DC’s Checkmate, which has or has once had in its employ alien armor, G.I. robots (literally), Faustian warlocks, western gunslingers, cyborgs, the power of the Starheart, and a fire-hurling assassin...yet can’t seem to scrounge up a single mind-reader on the pay-roll and has to resort to pieces of Starro to even tactically link minds in a mission. http://i.somethingawful.com/forumsystem/emoticons/emot-sweatdrop.gif

[primemover]

I wouldn't have thought telepathy to be the answer, was at first thinking of super strength or flight.

What do you guys think is the one power you'd like to see used more, or used better, or is just plain underused for it's potential power. For me it'd be kinetic manipulation/absorption along the lines of Inertia from the Squadron Supreme, it would seem almost limitless what you could do with such a power.

[BrianWilly]

Well, I don't know if it is the answer for sure, I was just thinking off the top of my head.

Not that many Marvel superheroes fly; only six out of the fourteen current New and Mighty Avengers combined can fly. That's less than half, and yet is even more than the ratio of most other teams. But then, almost none of them have telepathy either; when I said telepathy, I was more considering the overall scope of the entire MU population, as well as outer space.

[THANOSRULES]

Ultimate Cap rocks.

[TheCorpulent1]

I wouldn't have thought telepathy to be the answer, was at first thinking of super strength or flight.

What do you guys think is the one power you'd like to see used more, or used better, or is just plain underused for it's potential power. For me it'd be kinetic manipulation/absorption along the lines of Inertia from the Squadron Supreme, it would seem almost limitless what you could do with such a power.
Super-speed. Which basically overlaps with your kinetic energy manipulation thing.

[Doc Destruction]

What is the most ubiquitous power in the Marvel Universe.


Flight.

[Anubis]

Nah, Super Strength. Everybody and their momma's got it in the MU in some form or another.

[The Question]

It wouldn't surprise me. Kind of lame, but it's easier to visualize super-strength than it is to visualize peak-human strength. As long as they get the acrobatics down right and don't make him a jingoistic cockbag like Ultimate Cap, I'll be okay with it.

I've got a feeling that the Blonsky/Hulk fight on the college campus was supposed to be a preview of what Cap's going to be like.

[TheCorpulent1]

I don't know if it was intended that way, but I thought the same thing. That scene looked pretty great, so I wouldn't mind if it were a taste of Cap's moves.

[The Question]

I don't know if it was intended that way, but I thought the same thing. That scene looked pretty great, so I wouldn't mind if it were a taste of Cap's moves.

Well, the fact that the canister containing the formula Blonsky was using was labeled "Reinstein" makes me think it was intentional.

[primemover]

Super-speed. Which basically overlaps with your kinetic energy manipulation thing.

Well, just the speed force powered super-speedsters, right?

[TheCorpulent1]

Yeah. I meant the other way, though. Anyone with kinetic manipulation could give themselves super-speed relative to everything else.

[primemover]

Yeah. I meant the other way, though. Anyone with kinetic manipulation could give themselves super-speed relative to everything else.

Yeah, kind of like putting everything around them in some sort of stasis, then use that collected energy to do some dastardly deeds.

Seems like manipulation of kinetic energy is near limitless in potential, you could deafen people by slowing the vibration of the molecules carrying sound waves, even kill people by stopping the blood from flowing, or even stopping the heart completely.

[TheCorpulent1]

Indeed. Motion is a fundamental part of the universe, after all.

[DBM]

The more I think about it, the more I'd have to say the the most universal power that seems to show up must be enhanced durability. Because every superhero seems to be able to take a lot of punishment, much more than a regular person would.

[Varient]

Gladiator is currently working for an Emperor who took control of the Shi'ar empire through marriage and a coup. And the guy he stole it from took the empire through a coup. Gladiator's confidence is so shattered right now, he's had him arm broken by a random alien dude, and got b****-slapped by Rachel Summers.
There has got to be a point where he has had enough - And Rachel Summers is over-rated.

Yeah, Gladiator hasn't been the most powerful anything for a long, long time. When a character's been a shadow of his former self for decades, it's time to just let go of the past and accept that he's never going to recapture his former glory.

As for the most powerful analogue, I'd say the Exiles' version of Hyperion. The evil one. He was so powerful it took two alternate Hyperions to even stand a chance against him.
This is the guy who beat the hulk until the hulk pulled out marvels version of "kryptonite".

[TheCorpulent1]

Yeah, and the Sentry's the guy whose equally powerful, evil counterpart broke every bone in the Hulk's body. What's your point? :huh:

[THANOSRULES]

What happened to the original Sqadron supreme universe ?

What happned to them after they appeared in Ultimate Power alongside the JMS one?

Why was white Nighthawk (who is dead) there?

I never understood this..

[The Question]

Kevin Ford (Wither) has the power to decay any inorganic matter he touches. He cannot control this power. That leads to the question: How does he eat? Does he subside slowly on chemically processed snack foods?

[TheCorpulent1]

Straws?

[The Question]

Straws?

But the second the food enters his mouth, it should start to decay.

[Vanguard07]

people tend to eat mostly organic matter anyway dont they?

[primemover]

Maybe this has been asked and answered before, but who do you guys think Abin Sur's ring would have searched out to take his place as Green Lantern if he crash landed on Marvels earth? A few guesses from me would be maybe Matt Murdock, Steve Rogers, or maybe Scott Summers?

[MyPokerShirt]

Willpower (and obviously not allowed to be evil, otherwise I'd say Doom) is the issue right? So it'd be Peter Parker, Scott Summers, Moon Knight or Matt Murdock for me. And it'd probs be between MK and Summers in the end imho

[UK_Stu]

Maybe this has been asked and answered before, but who do you guys think Abin Sur's ring would have searched out to take his place as Green Lantern if he crash landed on Marvels earth? A few guesses from me would be maybe Matt Murdock, Steve Rogers, or maybe Scott Summers?

Surely it would head straight for "The man without fear" :cwink:

[MyPokerShirt]

Without fear and extreme (EXTREME! 11/10!! etc etc haw haw, ahem) willpower are not the same thing. This blatantly needs its own thread...

In fact hasn't DD gone insane once or twice. He's def had a mental breakdown at some point. A real fan could probably give you a string of examples when his willpower failed. Spider-Man has at least kept to his no killing policy (hmm, Morlun...). Moon Knight came back from being disabled (but wasn't he a drunk?). I think I'd have to go with Cyclops because he's so steadfast (crap, he cheated on Jean...). Y'know what? Nobody really seems worthy. Everybody in the MU has shown to be seriously lacking as far as sheer force of will is concerned. I blame the gritty realistic comic book era.

I HAVE A Q:
Can I get that Hellcat hat Molly wore in Runaways anywhere?? (Loved the newest arc, but didn't agree with some of Whedon's characterization btw. Anybody else agree??)

[primemover]

Willpower (and obviously not allowed to be evil, otherwise I'd say Doom) is the issue right? So it'd be Peter Parker, Scott Summers, Moon Knight or Matt Murdock for me. And it'd probs be between MK and Summers in the end imho

My question was actually who the ring would have sought out, somebody who is honest and utterly without fear, that is why one of the first people I thought of was Matt Murdock, and it'd be interesting to have a blind Green Lantern :D

Who would make the 'best' Green Lantern, as in use the ring the best, imagine somebody like Reed Richard and his brains, he'd make some *****en contraptions with the emerald energy.

[The Question]

My question was actually who the ring would have sought out, somebody who is honest and utterly without fear, that is why one of the first people I thought of was Matt Murdock, and it'd be interesting to have a blind Green Lantern :D

It's already happened. Having no concept of color or light, he refers to himself as "The F-Sharp Bell."

[Anubis]

Alan Moore beat you to it.

[THANOSRULES]

So i guess nobody is reading Squadron Supreme?

[Anubis]

Why would anybody do that?

[TheCorpulent1]

Masochism?

[Anubis]

Coprophiliac?

[DawnWarrior]

Without fear and extreme (EXTREME! 11/10!! etc etc haw haw, ahem) willpower are not the same thing. This blatantly needs its own thread...

In fact hasn't DD gone insane once or twice. He's def had a mental breakdown at some point. A real fan could probably give you a string of examples when his willpower failed.
So what? Hal Jordan's gone insane too, when he became Parallax and tried to destroy the entire universe. That's just good drama (and arguably another product of the gritty, realistic era you speak of). :gl::daredevil I can see it now: "Matt Murdock. You have the power to overcome great fear." All I want to know is: if Matt got the ring, would it restore his eyesight somehow?

[The Question]

So what? Hal Jordan's gone insane too, when he became Parallax and tried to destroy the entire universe. That's just good drama (and arguably another product of the gritty, realistic era you speak of). :gl::daredevil I can see it now: "Matt Murdock. You have the power to overcome great fear." All I want to know is: if Matt got the ring, would it restore his eyesight somehow?

In theory, it could. If technology exists somewhere out there in the vastness of space to heal eye injuries like Matt's, he could potentially re-create it with the ring. But I think that requires a certain level of understanding of the make up of said technology, or at least having that information downloaded into the ring's computer. But, really, he wouldn't need to. There's already a blind GL:

http://i283.photobucket.com/albums/kk318/HexagonSnood/rot_lop_.gif

F-Sharp Bell. He's badass.

[TheCorpulent1]

Actually, since Matt wasn't always blind, he could probably just simulate sight with his ring.

[Anubis]

Or he doens't need to freaking see because he can already see better than people who can.

[Docker2.0]

In theory, it could. If technology exists somewhere out there in the vastness of space to heal eye injuries like Matt's, he could potentially re-create it with the ring. But I think that requires a certain level of understanding of the make up of said technology, or at least having that information downloaded into the ring's computer. But, really, he wouldn't need to. There's already a blind GL:

http://i283.photobucket.com/albums/kk318/HexagonSnood/rot_lop_.gif

F-Sharp Bell. He's badass.

That thing looks........nasty. :csad:

[Anubis]

I'm sure his race would say the same thing about you....though they couldn't see you, they'd probably say you smell funny though.

[TheCorpulent1]

F-Sharp Bell: "Docker sounds... nasty. :csad:"

[DawnWarrior]

Or he doens't need to freaking see because he can already see better than people who can.
Yeah, I figure he'd just add the ring to his other enhanced senses.

[Texas]

Is the Knauf's Eternals a new ongoing series or a mini ?

[TheCorpulent1]

Ongoing.

[Docker2.0]

I'm watching the Hulk cartoon and She Hulk is giving Doom a arse whooping and I think she's only 70 tons. What's Doom's strength range? Isn't he 100 ton?

[Silicon Surfer]

Last figure I heard was some years ago and it was 5 tons.

[Docker2.0]

Doom?! I thought his armor gave him AT LEAST 70 tons. :huh:..........but I maybe wrong though.

[Silicon Surfer]

Doom didn't design his armor for physical combat since he considers that to be too crude for him to indulge in. Doom is the exemplar of arrogance.

[najnaimik23]

whats the 8th day juggernaut??? is that like the strongest version of juggernaut???

[CBG]

Trion Juggernaut, where Cyttorak himself supposedly possesses Juggernaut.

[Vanguard07]

Last figure I heard was some years ago and it was 5 tons.


I'm not sure what the official rating is but I do know that he's gone hand to hand with the likes of the Thing and Namor before and fared pretty well so he has to be higher than 5 tonnes.

[TheCorpulent1]

On the other hand, he also went hand-to-hand with Thor in Heroes Reborn: The Return and got his ass smacked back to the Heroes Reborn Earth. 5 tons seems really low, but I don't think he's up in the 100-ton range, either. Probably somewhere around 50 to 70.

[Silicon Surfer]

The only time I know of that he went hth with the thing was a long time ago. The Thing easily damaged his armor and broke his hand IIRC. I believe the Thing was weaker at that time but I don't recall very well.

[KangConquers]

Doom in his armor can list two tons, according to the Handbooks. The fact that he did well in a fight doesn't mean he can lift a lot of weight; it probably has more to do with his gadgets, and his durability in armor.

[TheCorpulent1]

It's kind of tough to believe that a class-2 guy could hurt a class-100 guy at all, though. Or class-85 or -90 or whatever the Thing was at at the time.

[Artistsean]

It seems like, with some X-Men characters, they always use a similar type of story in the cartoons and stuff.

Like Cyclops is always getting blinded, or looses his protective glasses or something and can't see, and is trapped, usually alone, in the desert. Then he has to survive until he can be rescued.
Or Beast is always on trial or in prison it seems like that.
It may just be a few things like that, but

I was curious if anyone else noticed that, maybe with some other characters, and maybe someone might know why.

[Docker2.0]

I'm not sure what the official rating is but I do know that he's gone hand to hand with the likes of the Thing and Namor before and fared pretty well so he has to be higher than 5 tonnes.

THat's what made me question it. I've never seen him take on the Hulk but I've seen him take a punch from him and walk away. I was thinking about 50 tons.

[Mr. Green]

What are easter eggs? As in, "there are lots of easter eggs in the Incredible Hulk movie." Are there easter eggs in comics as well?

[TheCorpulent1]

Sometimes. The Colbert '08 posters appearing in a lot of Marvel's comics are considered easter eggs.

[Anubis]

Van Schriver put the word sex in every panel of a comic he drew once.

[TheCorpulent1]

Any relation to Van Sciver?

[Varient]

I'm watching the Hulk cartoon and She Hulk is giving Doom a arse whooping and I think she's only 70 tons. What's Doom's strength range? Isn't he 100 ton?

No.
Varies on the armor.

After Cage pounded a hole in it,.. I think they bumped him up to Iron Man levels.

[Anubis]

Any relation to Van Sciver?

Possibly, they both have the dick nose.

[TheCorpulent1]

No.
Varies on the armor.

After Cage pounded a hole in it,.. I think they bumped him up to Iron Man levels.
Which is really as it should be. Doom doesn't deserve to wear armor if that armor can't hang with Iron Man's for at least a few rounds.

[Mr. Green]

Which is really as it should be. Doom doesn't deserve to wear armor if that armor can't hang with Iron Man's for at least a few rounds.
I thought it was pretty cool in Mighty Avengers when Iron Man and Doom were fighting and it showed both armor's readings and stuff. It really showed the similarities between the two.

[Silicon Surfer]

Which is really as it should be. Doom doesn't deserve to wear armor if that armor can't hang with Iron Man's for at least a few rounds.

I am not sure that I entirely agree. Doom divides his time between a lot of other tech as well as his schemes while Tony devotes relatively little time to anything but his armor. Other than what he needs to keep his company going. Armor is Tony's specialty, he should be better at it.

[Mr. Green]

Well Iron Man's armor is a bit more advanced because of the extremis stuff and his interface with SHIELD and pretty much any other electronic interfaces.

But Doom is just as much the genius as Tony so his armor shouldn't be, and isn't, that far behind.

And, as far as I know, the whole extremis thing was the last significant update to his armor and he didn't even take that long to do that anyway.

And Stark is into a whole bunch of stuff other than armor. He had sattelites positioned around the world that could change the wheather (Ultron used them in MA) and he's director of SHIELD so you can only imagine how much crazy stuff he's into these days other than armor, not to mention that huge gold hellicarrier he designed.

[TheCorpulent1]

Yeah, I've always gotten the impression that Doom and Reed are far beyond everyone else in every field, including the other guys' specialties. If Doom really took the time to work at it, I think he should easily be able to create a suit of armor that's better than Tony's in every way.

[Varient]

No.
Varies on the armor.

After Cage pounded a hole in it,.. I think they bumped him up to Iron Man levels.

Which is really as it should be. Doom doesn't deserve to wear armor if that armor can't hang with Iron Man's for at least a few rounds.
Well the original purpose of his first armor upgrades IMHO were to be able to physically handle the FF. The FF of the 50's would get stomped by any two of the FF written now,... so if you gave him the same amount of upgrade,...

I thought it was pretty cool in Mighty Avengers when Iron Man and Doom were fighting and it showed both armor's readings and stuff. It really showed the similarities between the two.
It gave you a clue to how each one worked,... Doom seemed to use Broadcast power while Stark was Solar/ambiance power.

I am not sure that I entirely agree. Doom divides his time between a lot of other tech as well as his schemes while Tony devotes relatively little time to anything but his armor. Other than what he needs to keep his company going. Armor is Tony's specialty, he should be better at it.
Meh - Doom is a lil bit brighter than Stark - Stark is the better technologist because thats all he does,... But Doom "Dabbles" like Reed Richards.

Well Iron Man's armor is a bit more advanced because of the extremis stuff and his interface with SHIELD and pretty much any other electronic interfaces.

But Doom is just as much the genius as Tony so his armor shouldn't be, and isn't, that far behind.

And, as far as I know, the whole extremis thing was the last significant update to his armor and he didn't even take that long to do that anyway.

And Stark is into a whole bunch of stuff other than armor. He had sattelites positioned around the world that could change the wheather (Ultron used them in MA) and he's director of SHIELD so you can only imagine how much crazy stuff he's into these days other than armor, not to mention that huge gold hellicarrier he designed.Doom is "More" of a Genius than Stark. Everyone has their strengths.


Yeah, I've always gotten the impression that Doom and Reed are far beyond everyone else in every field, including the other guys' specialties. If Doom really took the time to work at it, I think he should easily be able to create a suit of armor that's better than Tony's in every way.

QFT.

*Comment* This multipost function is the Best upgrade SHH ever did!

[TheCorpulent1]

Well the original purpose of his first armor upgrades IMHO were to be able to physically handle the FF. The FF of the 50's would get stomped by any two of the FF written now,... so if you gave him the same amount of upgrade,...
Yeah, especially since the FF didn't exist in the '50s. ;)

[Varient]

Yeah, especially since the FF didn't exist in the '50s. ;)

Meh,... stickler,.. I could swear they started in 1959?

(I remember those old Torch stories that looked like they were in the fifties)

In any event - All the power levels were lower.

V.

[Doc Destruction]

Different Human Torch, yo.

[TheCorpulent1]

That one started much earlier than '59, though.

[Dr. Fate]

Which storyline/issues/decade/era of the Fantastic Four featured Sue & Johnny getting their powers switched?

[BrianWilly]

The recent Mark Waid arc of Disassembled/Rising Storm; issues 514-523.

[Dr. Fate]

The recent Mark Waid arc of Disassembled/Rising Storm; issues 514-523.
Thank you.

[DawnWarrior]

Does Cyclops still use a visor that he fires with the button on by the ear (along with a switch in his glove), or has he switched to one with a cybernetic interface so he can fire it at will?

[TheCorpulent1]

He fires it without his hands being anywhere near his head all the time, so I guess the latter. I don't think anything's been said explicitly about how he fires it now, though.

[Dark Victory]

Hey does anyone know any good Deadpool graphic novels or any that he appears in? Thanks

[Silicon Surfer]

He fires it without his hands being anywhere near his head all the time, so I guess the latter. I don't think anything's been said explicitly about how he fires it now, though.

Over the years they have said in several places including the handbooks that he has controls in his gloves as well as on the visor.

[Silicon Surfer]

Very efficient, click once, post twice. And it only takes 10 minutes to complete.

[Anubis]

Hey does anyone know any good Deadpool graphic novels or any that he appears in? Thanks


The only stuff that's really in print is the Cable/Deadpool stuff.

[Odin's Fury]

The only stuff that's really in print is the Cable/Deadpool stuff.


Unless you're talking Ultimate Deadpool, buit that's quite a bit different. I think it was an Ultimate Spider-man arc.

New Deadpool monthly starts soon I know....

[Anubis]

But will it be worth buying? That is the question. Daniel Way is writing, so, this could either be really bad, or meh with a twist of lime.

[Odin's Fury]

But will it be worth buying? That is the question. Daniel Way is writing, so, this could either be really bad, or meh with a twist of lime.

Yeah, I'm not sure. I'll probably pick up the first issue just to check it out. Honestly, I feel like everything that could be done with deadpool HAS been done. I've always felt he was better used as a backup character.

[TheCorpulent1]

They should just have him join X-Force and be done with it.

[Anubis]

He should be on the Mighty Avengers.

[Odin's Fury]

They should just have him join X-Force and be done with it.

No, I think you have to have wolf-based powers to be on X-force.....

[Varient]

No, I think you have to have wolf-based powers to be on X-force.....

More like "Animal based"






With Regen a plus.

[Odin's Fury]

true....maybe squirrel girl will join.

and get rabies.

[Varient]

true....maybe squirrel girl will join.

and get rabies.

Nope.
Canon - She's not a killer,... and they have not shown her to ever get mussed up enough to see if she has a healing factor.

[Odin's Fury]

Nope.
Canon - She's not a killer,... and they have not shown her to ever get mussed up enough to see if she has a healing factor.


RIGHT. hence the reason she needs to get rabies.

[The Question]

RIGHT. hence the reason she needs to get rabies.

Rabies gives you a healing factor?

[Anubis]

It does make you impervious to pepper spray.

[Odin's Fury]

Absolutely it does. Didn't you guys learn that in health class?

Lord knows thats the only reason I handle wild possums.

But some day I will fight crime as The Invincible Possum!

And then you'll feel super-lame.

[Anubis]

Super-lame....in your pants.

[Varient]

Sarcasm flows heavy here,..........

[Doc Destruction]

IT DOES????

What a revelation!!!

[Docker2.0]

Is Apocolyspe dead now?

[Anubis]

Does it really matter?

[J. J. Jameson]

Is the Earth X Trilogy worth checking out?

[Anubis]

Most people would say just the first volume. I dug both the first and second, but stay away from volume 3. Paradise X is the sux.

[J. J. Jameson]

Most people would say just the first volume. I dug both the first and second, but stay away from volume 3. Paradise X is the sux.

That's consistent with what I've heard. How about Gaiman's Eternals? (I'm looking for some Marvel stuff that's not so mainstream.)

[Anubis]

I thought it was okay...if you like the Eternals. Did you check out Gaiman's 1602? I figure if you like that, you may like Eternals.

[J. J. Jameson]

I thought it was okay...if you like the Eternals. Did you check out Gaiman's 1602? I figure if you like that, you may like Eternals.

Actually, yes, I just finished 1602 and was in love with it from start to finish. I've never read Eternals anything...I'm just hooked on Gaiman's stuff. Obviously there's Sandman and a few other graphic novels he's done, but I'm also open to whatever else.

[Anubis]

Well, Sandman is really the best work he's ever done, so, whenever you get the money, go for the trades or the absolutes. It's worth it. As far as Eternals, go for that too. It was a good read and JRJR did some good work on it. It also sets up the status quo of the new Eternals series, which is pretty good in and of itself. I dig that Gaiman is one of these big name writers who doesn't have to s**t all over continuity to tell their story. He accepts whats going on, includes it, and still gets his story told. And that's what you get with his Eternals mini. A reinvention of characters, while staying true to the continuity that came before it, while not relying on it too heavily that you don't know whats going on.

[TheCorpulent1]

The Death trades are as good as his Sandman work, as far as I'm concerned.

[J. J. Jameson]

More creators need to be like that (Looking at you, Bendis...) I get the same vibe from Robert Kirkman, from what I've read of series he's penned. I wish Irredeemable Ant-Man had been able to keep going for another dozen issues at least. It wasn't Invincible, but it was still a good book.

Thanks for the recommendations.

[Anubis]

No prob. And listen to Corp too, those Death trades are good too.

[J. J. Jameson]

No prob. And listen to Corp too, those Death trades are good too.

Of course. Soon as I can shell out the cash for all 11 (?) Sandman trades. Or, perhaps, if I get a few trades in and see I'm really digging it, I'll go for the Absolutes. (*Shivers at the thought of how much money that would cost.*)

[Anubis]

Take your time, those are trades that will always be in print in one form another.

[TheCorpulent1]

Yeah, and you could probably swing the Absolutes pretty easily, given that it takes like six months for a new volume to come out. I think they're only on volume 3 as of right now.

[J. J. Jameson]

Yeah, and you could probably swing the Absolutes pretty easily, given that it takes like six months for a new volume to come out. I think they're only on volume 3 as of right now.

InStockTrades.com has the Absolutes for about $63, which really isn't terrible. I think there are going to be 4 Absolutes? I saw Amazon has the 4th up for pre-order.

63 + 63 + 63 +63 = $252

Spread out over the course of, let's say, a year isn't all that bad. I'd seriously consider it. I like hardcover collections a lot...but I find DC's trades sturdier than Marvel's for some reason, so I usually don't mind picking up the trades from DC as much as I would from Marvel. It's a pet-peeve of mine.

[TheCorpulent1]

The only trade that's fallen apart on me was a DC one. The Long Halloween, actually, which was pretty upsetting given how much I love that story. To be fair, I think I kept it in the car for a while and the heat made the glue weaker.

[J. J. Jameson]

The only trade that's fallen apart on me was a DC one. The Long Halloween, actually, which was pretty upsetting given how much I love that story. To be fair, I think I kept it in the car for a while and the heat made the glue weaker.

I had the exact same problem with my TLH. And, incidentally, it was also my only trade to completely fall apart. I was reading it and gradually it started to fall apart, and by the time I'd finished the book (and this was only the first time I read it, mind you) it was separated into 3 or 4 different sections. Luckily, the company I ordered from was gracious and sent me another one for free.

What I mean about Marvel TPBs is that they always have a page in the front or back (sometimes both) that sticks out separate from the rest of the book when it's open. It annoys me to no end, for some odd reason.

[THANOSRULES]

http://i.newsarama.com/images/Hulk007006.jpg


So I recognize Thundra but who r the other 2? Is that Valkyrie and poundcakes?

[Docker2.0]

What's a great Marvel space TPB? What about DC?

[batnkevlar]

Uh... looks like Thundra, She-Hulk, and Valkyrie...

[THANOSRULES]

Umm I don't remember Cho drawing She Hulk like that..look at those giant quads!

And Valkyrie is ridiculously built too..Cho draws women a bit buff, but if thats true the builds seem way off to me.

Its some great art though.

[TheCorpulent1]

Valkyrie's the strongest female Asgardian, so I guess it makes sense for her to be ripped. I'm not sure about her new costume, assuming that is a new costume and not just some special battle gear she wears for that one fight. I think I need to see it in color. I'm glad it's less of a blatant Thor-as-a-woman look, though.

[Varient]

http://i.newsarama.com/images/Hulk007006.jpg


So I recognize Thundra but who r the other 2? Is that Valkyrie and poundcakes?

Thundra, She Hulk and "A Valkyrie".

I say "A" because they are a group from Asgard.

Like how Cho buffed them up,....


(I always had issue with women drawn like waifs who could bench a tank.)

[TheCorpulent1]

Other pictures show that Valkyrie with Dragonfang, which pretty strongly implies that she's the Valkyrie. Or, I guess, Samantha Parrington, Brunnhilde's human host who, according to Dread, could assume the Valkyrie powers and persona on her own.

[Varient]

Other pictures show that Valkyrie with Dragonfang, which pretty strongly implies that she's the Valkyrie. Or, I guess, Samantha Parrington, Brunnhilde's human host who, according to Dread, could assume the Valkyrie powers and persona on her own.

Can you post one of those other pictures? This buffed out Valkrie doesn't have Dragonfang:
http://forums.superherohype.com/attachment.php?attachmentid=5423&stc=1&d=1217426946

Dragonfang has a Dragons head,... not a horse.

[TheCorpulent1]

Well, it's otherwise identical to Dragonfang, so I would guess that Cho just f***ed up and thought it had a horse's head or he's really bad at drawing dragons.

[Docker2.0]

Who's a more complete threat? Dr. Doom or the Mandarin? Is the Mandarin underrated?

[Bubonic]

Is True Believers an Initiative team?

[Colossal Spoons]

Just read the latest New Warriors today. Is Rage supposed to be as tall as the Hulk?

[Silicon Surfer]

The Mandarin has never been developed very much but theoretically the Mandarin is the more dangerous because of his Makluan technology. I doubt however that he will ever be treated according to his potential. They will likely always treat him as a munchkin.

[THANOSRULES]

Just read the latest New Warriors today. Is Rage supposed to be as tall as the Hulk?

The proportions were noticably off..no though.

[TheCorpulent1]

The Mandarin has never been developed very much but theoretically the Mandarin is the more dangerous because of his Makluan technology. I doubt however that he will ever be treated according to his potential. They will likely always treat him as a munchkin.
Read the Knaufs' last couple of arcs on Iron Man: Director of SHIELD.

[Bubonic]

Could someone brief me on what to expect from Marvel adventure titles?
Is it something like what we get from X-Men First Class? Simple stories in an old school style, but with better dialogue then they had then?
Or is it very child friendly and silly?

[Varient]

Based on what I've read in store,.. they are a friendlier marvel universe...

[Bubonic]

So not as much of a broody atmosphere, death and drama.
But otherwise does it feel like the comics of old, or does it feel like some Nickelodeon version of our favourite characters?

[Harlekin]

Is True Believers an Initiative team?
Nope.

[Colossal Spoons]

The proportions were noticeably off..no though.

Thought so

[Shannow]

wrong thread.

[Lobo]

I've not read an Xmen comic in a loooong time, so I've got a question about Gambit. I have some old Gambit issues from back when he actually had a series where his powers had increased, he could charge objects by looking at them . Can he still do that? Or has he gone back to having to touch an object for it to charge? Also is he appearing in any X books at the moment?

[Colossal Spoons]

Haven't seen him do that in years

[Odin's Fury]

I've not read an Xmen comic in a loooong time, so I've got a question about Gambit. I have some old Gambit issues from back when he actually had a series where his powers had increased, he could charge objects by looking at them . Can he still do that? Or has he gone back to having to touch an object for it to charge? Also is he appearing in any X books at the moment?


The only thing recent I can remember is a couple of issues of Xmen Legacy. But don't bother, that book sucks.

I believe he might be appearing in Manifest Destiny, but I don't think he's a major player. As far as I know he's busy with Guild stuff.

[J. J. Jameson]

How would you guys rate Waid/Ringo's run on Fantastic Four? I've been looking at the hardcover collections for a while. Are they a good read? I've never read anything solely about the FF, so would this be a good place to start. The Lee/Kirby and Byrne runs are also of interests to me.

[BrianWilly]

I'd rate it something like a 15 out of 10.

[J. J. Jameson]

I'd rate it something like a 15 out of 10.

Right. That pretty much answers it.

[CBG]

I've not read an Xmen comic in a loooong time, so I've got a question about Gambit. I have some old Gambit issues from back when he actually had a series where his powers had increased, he could charge objects by looking at them . Can he still do that? Or has he gone back to having to touch an object for it to charge? Also is he appearing in any X books at the moment?

Not anymore. He burned out his higher powers when he overloaded New Sun.

[DawnWarrior]

The only thing recent I can remember is a couple of issues of Xmen Legacy. But don't bother, that book sucks.I was kind of enjoying Xavier's little jaunts through his memory (I always appreciate an X-Men story that makes sense), but it does feel like filler until the next big X-event comes along.

[Varient]

I'd rate it something like a 15 out of 10.

(smile)




Man,... Talk about a "Stamp of approval" That was more of a stomp.

Props.