The New Improved Official Stupid Question Thread Marvel Edition

[Darthphere]

What is 616?

In the fictional Marvel Comics multiverse, Earth-616 or Earth 616 is the name used to identify the primary continuity in which most Marvel Comics titles take place, as well as being the Marvel Comics equivalent of our own universe.

Everything you need to know about "616" (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Earth-616)

Ok heres the point to this thread. You got a question you think is stupid come ask it here. No need to clutter up the forum with 800 threads about how far Mr. Fantastic can stretch. No one will make fun of you and ill make sure of it!:mad: . So ask away anything you want. Non-stupid questions are also welcomed.

If you don't know the RIGHT answer, keep your damn mouth shut.


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[Elijya]

yeah, here's one: WTF is the "power cosmic"? seriously, define it. It supposedly makes SS one of the most powerful heroes out there, even moreso than Supes, but what the **** can it do? All I ever see him do is shoot energy blasts and ride that stupid surfboard. you'd think one of the most powerful energy sources in the universe would have some more uses than that

[Phoney Bone]

What's with Marvels "no cosmic" ****? I mean, shouldn't that mean Thanos and Silver Surfer should be cancelled too? Marvel just doesn't like CM.

[Darthphere]

Originally posted by bmfunny
What's with Marvels "no cosmic" ****? I mean, shouldn't that mean Thanos and Silver Surfer should be cancelled too? Marvel just doesn't like CM.

I think that the no cosmic rule is BS. I dont belive they would really follow that. Anyways arent Thanos and Silver Surfer getting cancelled?

[CantThinkOfAName]

Originally posted by Elijya
yeah, here's one: WTF is the "power cosmic"? seriously, define it. It supposedly makes SS one of the most powerful heroes out there, even moreso than Supes, but what the **** can it do? All I ever see him do is shoot energy blasts and ride that stupid surfboard. you'd think one of the most powerful energy sources in the universe would have some more uses than that I think the Power Cosmic is some energy originally owned by Galactus and all those buddies of his. He gave a little to Silver Surfer. Now, from what I read in Captain Marvel (the main character of which also has Power Cosmic), he can see into the future and change the shape, form, and process of any matter. (which I guess is how the energy blasts come out.) I think at one point Cap turned someone into a tree.:up:

[CantThinkOfAName]

Originally posted by bmfunny
What's with Marvels "no cosmic" ****? I mean, shouldn't that mean Thanos and Silver Surfer should be cancelled too? Marvel just doesn't like CM. I dont think actually have a "no cosmic" policy. I think they just wanted to **** with Grant Morrisons Marvel Boy project, and then realized teh error of their ways, thus making Silver Surfer (who, at least, has a bigger fanbase)

[Unthinkable]

Originally posted by bmfunny
What's with Marvels "no cosmic" ****? I mean, shouldn't that mean Thanos and Silver Surfer should be cancelled too? Marvel just doesn't like CM.

I'm pretty sure Thanos and SS are getting cancelled.:(

[X]

Originally posted by CantThinkOfAName
I think the Power Cosmic is some energy originally owned by Galactus and all those buddies of his. He gave a little to Silver Surfer. Now, from what I read in Captain Marvel (the main character of which also has Power Cosmic), he can see into the future and change the shape, form, and process of any matter. (which I guess is how the energy blasts come out.) I think at one point Cap turned someone into a tree.:up:

Nobody "owns" it. It's the energy left over from the big bang, what started the universe some 6 billion years ago. Almost all of The Elders of the Universe use it for one reason or another. The Champion used it to make himself more physically powerful, more agile, more endurant, tougher, and so on. Thanos taps into cosmic energy for a number of effects, and so on.

Good thread by the way. :up:

[Bat-Mantis]

Mr. X's post brings up a good point:
If you don't know the RIGHT answer, keep your damn mouth shut.

[CantThinkOfAName]

Originally posted by Mr. X
Nobody "owns" it. It's the energy left over from the big bang, what started the universe some 6 billion years ago. Almost all of The Elders of the Universe use it for one reason or another. The Champion used it to make himself more physically powerful, more agile, more endurant, tougher, and so on. Thanos taps into cosmic energy for a number of effects, and so on.

Good thread by the way. :up: Well, I didnt literally mean "owns it." I just couldnt think of a better way to say that they use it:(

Wait..."uses it" might have worked:(

[X]

Heh, I pretty much knew what you meant, I was just clarifying.

The power cosmic can pretty much be used for anything. Rearranging molecules, levitation, energy blasts, healing, amping up your physical strength, amping up your speed, and so on. The Gardener uses it to continue on his insanly wide scale gardening. He used to use one of the infinity gems, but not anymore to my knowledge. The Runner, a flash like being, uses the energy to travel/react at insane speeds, a skill which he's honed over the years.

[CantThinkOfAName]

Originally posted by Mr. X
Heh, I pretty much knew what you meant, I was just clarifying.

The power cosmic can pretty much be used for anything. Rearranging molecules, levitation, energy blasts, healing, amping up your physical strength, amping up your speed, and so on. The Gardener uses it to continue on his insanly wide scale gardening. He used to use one of the infinity gems, but not anymore to my knowledge. The Runner, a flash like being, uses the energy to travel/react at insane speeds, a skill which he's honed over the years. Ok...who the Gardener?:D

[X]

http://classicmarvel.com/cast_elder.htm

:)

[Guyverjay]

Is the 2099 universe canon or not damn it!!!?

[CantThinkOfAName]

Originally posted by Mr. X
http://classicmarvel.com/cast_elder.htm

:) he must be the lame elder in the group.:(


oh wait, the Contemplator?:confused::(

[CantThinkOfAName]

Originally posted by Guyverjay
Is the 2099 universe canon or not damn it!!!? Its not.

The new 2099 books coming in September aren't either, but they're in a different universe from the 2099 books of the 90s.

[Darthphere]

So there are two 2099 universes?

[CantThinkOfAName]

Originally posted by darthphere
So there are two 2099 universes? Well, as of September, technically, yeah.

But if the 2099 books that are coming up do well, it will spawn a single book only (Kirkman, the writer, said he wanted to do Mutant 2099), so the upcoming universe won't be as expansive as the original.

[Darthphere]

So theyll have a 2099 ongoing if the books sell well. Maybe it will work.

[Phoney Bone]

Originally posted by darthphere
So theyll have a 2099 ongoing if the books sell well. Maybe it will work. Bet Robert Kirkman can't write them all.:D:up:

[Darthphere]

No theyll have a single 2099 book BM.

[TheCorpulent1]

I don't get why they didn't keep the 2099 universe the same and just not focus on the heroes who had come before. It leaves the door open for the previous 2099 characters, whom fans like, to come into the fold alongside the new 2099 characters, thus enriching the world if one of the MK 2099s goes on to become an ongoing. For a company that claims to want to streamline and simplify, Marvel sure is creating a bunch of new and unnecessary revamps of old concepts.

[Guyverjay]

Bah Captain Marvel visited the 2099 universe and met spider-man 2099 in his own book. So it must be canon

[TheCorpulent1]

Alternate realities have appeared tons of times in comics.

[Guyverjay]

So its canon:o

[TheCorpulent1]

I've got no problem with it being canon. I'm just saying, it's not necessarily the future of the mainstream Marvel universe. One of those, "similar in all things, BUT..." types of deals like Sliders had all the time.

[CantThinkOfAName]

Originally posted by Guyverjay
So its canon:o Well, its not cannon in the main Marvel universe. Its not the actual future.

[X]

Originally posted by Bat-Mantis
Mr. X's post brings up a good point:
If you don't know the RIGHT answer, keep your damn mouth shut.

Wait, was that directed towards me or something? I'm confused. :confused:

Originally posted by CantThinkOfAName
he must be the lame elder in the group.:(


oh wait, the Contemplator?:confused::(

Heh, they're all pretty powerful in their own right. They all plotted together to kill Galactus and damn near suceeded. Champion, Obliterator, and The Runner are probably the mosy powerful of the group, even though the SS had beaten the first two of then. The Runner kicked his ass though.

[Guyverjay]

Originally posted by CantThinkOfAName
Well, its not cannon in the main Marvel universe. Its not the actual future.

I mean its canon as in it actually happened like AOA

[TheCorpulent1]

Originally posted by Guyverjay
I mean its canon as in it actually happened like AOA
AoA's in the past, so it did happen. 2099's in the future so who knows? Although, the fact that 2099's past resembles the mainstream Marvel present so perfectly and that mainstream characters have met 2099 ones probably means that it's pretty much guaranteed to happen.

Anyway, I have a stupid question. After the Vision was dismantled and rebuilt, he was programmed with the brain patterns of some scientist's son. Why, then, did Vision refer to Wonder Man as his "brother" and claim that they share brain patterns during Busiek's run much later?

[Elijya]

Originally posted by TheCorpulent1
AoA's in the past, so it did happen. 2099's in the future so who knows? Although, the fact that 2099's past resembles the mainstream Marvel present so perfectly and that mainstream characters have met 2099 ones probably means that it's pretty much guaranteed to happen.


what about days of future past? that was a possible/alternate future that wqas shown to affect the past, therefore any possible future can be considered canon

[TheCorpulent1]

Yeah, I agreed that if anyone from the current mainstream Marvel U has met an alternate/possible future person, that alternate/possible future is pretty much canon. It's just a bit dodgier than alternate presents or pasts, since no future has technically happened yet.

Anyway, any answers to my Vision question?

[Bat-Mantis]

Originally posted by Mr. X
Wait, was that directed towards me or something? I'm confused. :confused: Nope.

[Elijya]

um, cause every avenger's writer except busiek sucks and doesn't know what they're doing

[X]

Originally posted by TheCorpulent1
Anyway, I have a stupid question. After the Vision was dismantled and rebuilt, he was programmed with the brain patterns of some scientist's son. Why, then, did Vision refer to Wonder Man as his "brother" and claim that they share brain patterns during Busiek's run much later?

Well, he's had Wonder Man's brain patterns on-off for a long time. They probably got replaced.

[Darthphere]

We all know Spider-Man can stick to walls and stuff but how can he do it if he has gloves on?

[Elijya]

unstable molecules?

god, I haven't heard anyone talk about THEM in awhile. feels really stupid saying it now. if the molecules were unstable, wouldn't they, like, blow up, or at least, I don't know, disintingrate?

[TheCorpulent1]

Damn it, nobody knows about Vision's brainwaves?? What kind of comic fans are you people? :mad:

[Elijya]

well, the name of the thread is the stupid questions thread, so I'm not taking any of this stuff seriously, and if I don't know something off the top of my head, I'm not gonna try very hard to look for it

[X]

Originally posted by TheCorpulent1
Damn it, nobody knows about Vision's brainwaves?? What kind of comic fans are you people? :mad:

I tried. :mad:

[Dodgey Browne]

Here are some ranodm questions:

Why is the Hulk sometimes grey?

Why is Magneto alive again, I thought Wolverine killed him in the Planet X arc?

Is the Silver Surfer or Thanos comic any good?

Is Collosus in the regular X-men comics (so not Ultimate) dead?

[Marcdachamp]

Originally posted by Dodgey Browne
Here are some ranodm questions:

Why is the Hulk sometimes grey?

Why is Magneto alive again, I thought Wolverine killed him in the Planet X arc?

Is the Silver Surfer or Thanos comic any good?

Is Collosus in the regular X-men comics (so not Ultimate) dead?

The Hulk was originally intended to be gray, but green was a cheaper color to print, which is the reason he was changed WAY back when (the first volume's second issue). Since then, he's had several transformations.

Magneto's alive because marvel wanted him back. That may sound sarcastic, but Claremont has given us no explanation for how he's alive in Excalibur. The man who was Xorn was supposedly an imposter.

Haven't read either book, sorry.

Colossus is dead as a doornail, and if he's brought back, it will be the real tradgedy.

TheCorpulent1, The Vision has a VERY messed up history. It's pretty covoluted. The BEST answer I can throw at you, is the same reason Tony Stark isn't young again, The Wasp is no longer mutated and Hawkeye has perfect hearing again. When Franklin Richards brought the heroes back to the 616 MU, he reconstructed their bodies as he remembered them, hence the Vision's memories. That's the best I can surmise.

[TheCorpulent1]

Originally posted by Elijya
well, the name of the thread is the stupid questions thread, so I'm not taking any of this stuff seriously, and if I don't know something off the top of my head, I'm not gonna try very hard to look for it
Yeah, I figured as much. I answered it myself here (http://www.avengersassemble.us/mcquaid/seanv.html), though. Thanks for nothing. :mad: ;)
Originally posted by Marcdachamp
TheCorpulent1, The Vision has a VERY messed up history. It's pretty covoluted. The BEST answer I can throw at you, is the same reason Tony Stark isn't young again, The Wasp is no longer mutated and Hawkeye has perfect hearing again. When Franklin Richards brought the heroes back to the 616 MU, he reconstructed their bodies as he remembered them, hence the Vision's memories. That's the best I can surmise.
Thanks for trying, at least. Turns out the Vision is more "human" than he thought, and when the government wiped his personality, they couldn't erase it completely. After he was brought back, he went around for a while without any brain patterns, but that proved harmful to his system since he was designed to work with human brain patterns. The recently-deceased scientist Alex Lipton was used to give Vision a new set of brain patterns, but eventually he confronted an evil version of himself (one of Proctor's Gatherers) and confronting his dark side shook his old personality loose. Over time, his old personality began to reassert itself. I have the issue it starts in, actually; he (ironically) punches through a wall because he's so frustrated at not having access to the emotions his memories are tied to. From there, he becomes more and more like his old self, culminating with the re-emergence of his feelings of jealousy towards Wonder Man in the Busiek/Perez Avengers run.

[Blue Lantern]

Could Colossus melt?

[X]

His coating would begin to at high enough temps. He's been seen to bleed a silvery substance before...

[X]

Originally posted by Marcdachamp
The Hulk was originally intended to be gray, but green was a cheaper color to print, which is the reason he was changed WAY back when (the first volume's second issue). Since then, he's had several transformations.

Not true. They wanted to make him grey, but it was a pain in the ass during the printing process and everything or whatever. Green was much easier, so it was used.

The regular Grey Hulk is a different part of Banners psyche, kind of like a care about no one teenager.

[Tropico]

Originally posted by Dodgey Browne
Here are some ranodm questions:

Why is Magneto alive again, I thought Wolverine killed him in the Planet X arc?

Is Collosus in the regular X-men comics (so not Ultimate) dead?

Magneto is alive (again), apparently the one that got killed was an imposter. Xavier mentions that the imposter said his secondary mutation was to come back from the dead.

Colossus is dead. He sacrificed himself to propagate the cure to the Legacy Virus. As for him "bleeding a silvery substance", I've never seen it. I do remeber from the "Mutant Massacre" crossover that he was severely injured and he collapsed. When they were going to heal him (still in metal form) Magneto showed the X-Men where Peter had been injured and it was shown as if he was leaking energy through those wounds. I'll have to look for it, I think they even mention that he can't bleed in metal form.

[TheCorpulent1]

I know Mimic usually tends to armor up when he's been hurt in Exiles in order to stop the bleeding and allow his healing factor to heal him quicker.

[eris]

oh just what i needed cus i am far to lazy to look it up myself..

why is the regular marvel universe refered to as 616?

[TheCorpulent1]

Originally posted by eris
why is the regular marvel universe refered to as 616?
http://www.superherohype.com/forums/showthread.php?s=&threadid=115096

[eris]

Originally posted by TheCorpulent1
http://www.superherohype.com/forums/showthread.php?s=&threadid=115096

thank you

[X]

Destroyed him if I remember correctly. Then again, Luke Cage has too.

[Ahura Mazda]

How is it that the Hulk lost a battle against Wolverine? Considering the mutual powers each have how is it even possible?

Correct me but i always thought the Hulk was faster as well as stronger and that the healing factor is even a little better. I realise this is stupid but I just do not understand it.

[X]

And when did Wolverine beat The Hulk... :rolleyes:

[TheCorpulent1]

Originally posted by eris
thank you
You're welcome. Thank euroq too, I got the link from his sig. :)

[Ahura Mazda]

I thought I read that somewhere that he got all cut up. I do not know as much as you obviously but I thought I rememberred once reading that he lost or tied against Wolverine which seemed extremely strange to me.

[X]

Originally posted by Ahura Mazda
I thought I read that somewhere that he got all cut up. I do not know as much as you obviously but I thought I rememberred once reading that he lost or tied against Wolverine which seemed extremely strange to me.

Okay, sorry about being a bit rude early. I've chilled out a bit so here goes.

The Hulk is fast, but Wolverine is a lot more agile. The Hulk can jump, well, hundreds of miles per hour. He was once clocked in casually jumping almost 500 miles per hour I believe. Once he gets running, he can go 300+. But close quartes, Wolverine has the advantage. The Hulk can punch insanly fast and what not, but Wolverines fully capable of dodging and what not.

Anyhow, Wolverine has never been able to cut The Hulk under his own power. Once, Wolverine had updates via Apocalypse, strength enhancing and some armor and so on. Even then he cooulden't cut The Hulk, The Hulk kept accidently using his own power against himself, cutting him. The Hulk/Wolverine fights have usually ended with the first solid punch The Hulks lands. Once, he nailed Wolverine and punched him out of state, into another. That was written by Ennis, so it shoulden't be taken too seriously.

Another time, The Hulk put Wolvie down with the first punch he landed. Wolverine put up a decent fight, slashing The Hulks face and sticking his claws in his mouth, but The Hulk then decked Wolverine and sent him flying at terminal velocity into the air, through some trees. The Hulk was ready to crush Wolverines head in his hand when some girl saved him. Didnt fight The Hulk or anything, just stopped it. Wolverine almost got pulled in half during that fight as well, via The Hulk.

In their first fight, The Hulk nearly took Wolverines head off with a punch that barely connected. A lot of people have misconceptions that Wolvies always done really good against The Hulk and all, it's just not true. Hope that helped. :)

[Ahura Mazda]

On the Hulk vs. Wolverine these are the examples I had heard about on the following website:

http://www.incrediblehulk.com/wolverineff.html

"Incredible Hulk #340:
The Hulk is behind Wolverine and jumps at him. Wolverine turns around and manages to cut him. Wolverine says that he has changed and walks away, not wanting to fight. The Hulk keeps following him, bothering him until Wolverine finally snaps and gives in to the beastal side and fights the Hulk. Wolverine cuts and cuts until the Hulk falls, with a gaping chest hole. He turns around and walks away. The Hulk, his healing factor kicking in, gets up and starts the fight again. The two go at it but Clay Quartermain breaks up the fight before a final winner can be determined.

Issue 454:
Wolverine finds the Hulk leading a tribe in the Savage Land and attacks him, slashing him in the throat. The Hulk thinks he is cut until he realizes that Wolverine has bone claws. The Hulk and Wolverine battle, with the Hulk having a pretty clear advantage until he clenches his chest, in pain over being the focal point of the Heroes Reborn Universe. A dinosaur grabs the Hulk, shakes him,and throws him away. The two warring tribes attack the dinosaur and kill it. Wolverine slaps the Hulk on the back and the Hulk just falls over, unconscious."


My question was I do not understand how it could have even been a match up.

[Ahura Mazda]

Just ignore my last post Mr. X and thanks for the comprehensive reply.

[X]

I'm pretty sure that fight didn't take place in Incredible Hulk #340. I think it took place in a Wolverine comic, almost positive. The Hulk kept cutting himself under his own strength as well. And as I said, Wolverine had enhancements. In #454 The Hulk was dieing from his seperation from Banner if I remember correctly.

[X]

Originally posted by Ahura Mazda
Just ignore my last post Mr. X and thanks for the comprehensive reply.

No problem, and thank you. :)

[Tropico]

Originally posted by Tropico
Magneto is alive (again), apparently the one that got killed was an imposter. Xavier mentions that the imposter said his secondary mutation was to come back from the dead.

Colossus is dead. He sacrificed himself to propagate the cure to the Legacy Virus. As for him "bleeding a silvery substance", I've never seen it. I do remeber from the "Mutant Massacre" crossover that he was severely injured and he collapsed. When they were going to heal him (still in metal form) Magneto showed the X-Men where Peter had been injured and it was shown as if he was leaking energy through those wounds. I'll have to look for it, I think they even mention that he can't bleed in metal form.

Here we go, directly from the Mutant Massacre TPB:

"He cannot bleed, in the accepted human sense." Magneto says softly. "Instead, he loses energy through those blast points. His condition is far worse than I suspected, it's a miracle he survived this long."

[X]

Not sure. Why, is it a stretch to think Spidey woulden't destroy him? :confused:

[bat_in_d_hat]

uumm...guys i know this sounds reeaaallly stupid but i haven't been "normally" collecting comics as before and i have been out of touch especially the terms...so forgive my intrusion but i just wondered what the hell the term "canon" or "cannon" means? i came across it as i was reading this thread..can someone enlighten me? thank you so very much!

gracias tanto los caballeros!!

[TheCorpulent1]

Canon means it's an official part of comic history. For example: the death of Gwen Stacy is canon. It's affected pretty much everything about Spider-Man's life since it happened, right up into the present. What If? stories, on the other hand, are not canon. They're explained away by alternate realities and such. Occasionally Marvel will choose to just disregard something that was written before, effectively striking it from the character's canon. They did this with John Byrne's Spider-Man: Chapter One because of the nauseating, mind-numbing s***tiness of it.

[DBM]

This is my kind of thread. I'm going to read through all the questions and see if I can add anything when I have time.

[euroq]

Heh, even Black Cat beat Sabretooth.

[TheCorpulent1]

Originally posted by DBM
This is my kind of thread. I'm going to read through all the questions and see if I can add anything when I have time.
Big fan of stupid questions, huh?

Wow, that one must've been right up your alley... :o

[Ahura Mazda]

Just a question as I am a fan of mythology - Was mythological history validated in the marvel comics and in that sense I mean the twelve labours of Heracles (Hercules) or certain feats of Thor (such as drinking part of the ocean or lifting part of the Midgard Serpent) still valid in the Marvel universe.

If they were then how come they are so different in personality or appearance (unshaven Thor) as their mythological counterparts. Also in that light what happenned to all the mythological Greek Gods - the Norse ones are very promoinent already.

Sorry but I was just wondering so if anybody could enlighten me I would appreciate it.

[TheCorpulent1]

As far as I know, the original mythology holds true in the Marvel universe except for a few differences. The only one I can think of off the top of my head is that the sorceress Circe, who met Odysseus and his crew and transformed them into pigs, was actually the Eternal Sersi.

Hercules did complete his twelve labors, but his godhood was later revoked by Zeus, leaving him a mortal with all his super-strength still intact.

Thor's character is presumably much different from the mythological version because Stan Lee didn't want a stupid, murderous oaf as one of Marvel's premiere heroes. Instead, Thor embodies the heroic ideal more than the viking one. Part of it may be due to the fact that Odin kept slapping Thor in human bodies to teach him humility (Sigurd, Siegfried, Don Blake) and bonding him to humans for similar reasons (Eric Masterson, Jake Olson until Olson's spirit was finally released and allowed to go to Heaven). I don't think that's a logical explanation myself, since we've seen flashbacks of Thor and the Asgardians and they all seem relatively the same as they are in the present. Chalk it up to creative license, I guess.

Edit: I forgot; although Lee seemed to intend for Thor to be more of a heroic character than a warrior one, Thor has evolved into more of the mythological warrior role thanks in large part to Walt Simonson. The current Thor does fight in wars with the other Asgardians and he does kill, he just realizes that today's standards in civilized society are much less tolerant of that sort of thing. So he doesn't go around killing small-time criminals in the process of robbing banks, but he will kill a major threat if he/she/it is too dangerous to allow to live.

[Ahura Mazda]

Ok thanks for that but if that is the case what happenned to all the other boisterous Greek Gods - I know Hercules is not that popular but still up to the Trojan War all the Gods were very active - Of course, I could answer this myself by quoting the two magic words you used "creative license"

Thanks for the response Corp (if I may call you that), it does clear it up for me.

[TheCorpulent1]

You may, and I'm pretty sure the other Greek gods aren't seen too much because they don't come to Earth very often. Like Odin, Zeus decreed that the time of the gods was over and that they were no longer allowed to directly influence mortal affairs. That's why the Aesir usually hang out in Asgard and Thor only sees them when he goes to Asgard. Same with the Greek gods, only we see them less because Hercules doesn't have a comic like Thor does. Ares and Pluto have attempted to take over the world a couple of times, but outside of that most of the Greek gods are rarely seen due to Zeus' law.

[Darthphere]

Originally posted by DBM
This is my kind of thread. I'm going to read through all the questions and see if I can add anything when I have time.

We should make these thread in conjuction with you Info website thread.

The official stupid question thread powered by DBM. :D ;)

Check the first post.

[Darthphere]

BUMP- cmon guys more stupid questions.

[TheCorpulent1]

Is Ultron still made of adamantium, or was that a one-time deal?

[Darthphere]

Originally posted by TheCorpulent1
Is Ultron still made of adamantium, or was that a one-time deal?

If he is the Avengers are gonna have some problems.

[TheCorpulent1]

Maybe they'll be diamond-hard in Avengers #500. Anything that comes out of the Vision should be diamond-hard. ;)

[Elijya]

Originally posted by TheCorpulent1
Anything that comes out of the Vision should be diamond-hard. ;)

I feel sorry for the scarlet witch and his toilet bowel, then

[TheCorpulent1]

I was waiting for someone to make the Scarlet Witch joke. :)

[bat_in_d_hat]

hey Corp thanks for the info about the canon stuff..hehe! too bad for byrne his story got scrapped!..i like this thread..damn i like it a lot!! i can ask dumb questions freely without hesitation..but i'll only do that if i really don't have any clue..thanx agen Corp and hey i went to your art thread and your art's good!!

[TheCorpulent1]

No problem, and thank you. :)

[bat_in_d_hat]

Hey Corp i have another question...is Dr. Doom really powerful my friend says he is the most bad-ass villain in the MU Magento can't even control his metal armour..is this all true and can you sight some of his infamous achievemnts if you don't mind pretty please??? :D :D :D

[Elijya]

HELL YEA!!

Doom once drained a Watcher of His Power, and Challenged the Beyonder, he's by far the baddest ass villain out there. I'm sure the other guys can give you some nice examples (someone summarize "unthinkable" for him)

[TheCorpulent1]

Doom's fairly powerful, but not a huge powerhouse. He's got moderate magical power, but not enough to stand up to Dr. Strange one-on-one. He's got fairly powerful armor but not enough to stand up to Iron Man's more advanced armors one-on-one. He's the king of Latveria and has access to nuclear arms and an army of Doombots.

What Doom has more than just about anyone else in the Marvel universe except for Reed Richards, however, is intelligence. He can outsmart just about anyone. He's outsmarted Mephisto, the king of deceit, and he's developed a time machine, various machines for interdimensional travel, and a number of other gadgets on his own. He's got such a strong will that he can resist the Purple Man's mental control powers at point-blank range. The Purple Man himself says that "no one" can resist him at that range. But Doom does without a problem.

He's also the master of the sneak attack. He's stolen the powers of both the Silver Surfer and the Beyonder. He's nearly succeeded in instigating wars through subtle manipulation. He's actually managed to take over the world using a machine that harnessed the aforementioned Purple Man's mind-control powers.

His biggest downfall is his ego. He's arrogant to a fault and that usually clouds his better judgment, especially against the Fantastic Four since, ultimately, Reed Richards is the only man he's jealous of. He gave up control of the world after he'd gained it because he was bored with the menial tasks of running the world. He desires conquest, not administration.

[bat_in_d_hat]

hehe!! thanks a lot Corp!!! so doom's really the baddest of em all ei!..that was very informative..but did he try to control Ultron? i mean can Doom take on Ultron anytime although not physically but through devious schemes, inventions and stuff..is there an existing story where the two met either as friend or foe i bet doom has something planned in repelling, absorbing, or whatever it is on Ultron's deadly encephalo ray.

[TheCorpulent1]

Hmm... I think Doom and Ultron have met in a big story. I don't know what it is, but I'm almost positive one exists.

[bat_in_d_hat]

i think so...i first colectd cards before comics when i was young..and as far as i can recall i always see doom being squared off to the FF..and speaking old stuf

waay back i've noticed that Silver Surfer was always paired with Mephisto (especially in the old series cards that Marvel sold)in the terms of being arch-enemies its always like this was there a story linking the two? or was just a random pairing thing? but i think not..anyway i was too young then to know why.

[bat_in_d_hat]

wow...questions are starting to pop up in my mind now...and im afraid that most of them are stupid..hehe!

[bat_in_d_hat]

but going back to doom is it true that doom's time machine is the only working model in MU and that Fitzroy's is also based on doom's time machine...

[Marcdachamp]

Originally posted by TheCorpulent1
Is Ultron still made of adamantium, or was that a one-time deal?

He's techincally "dead" right now, I think. He was made out of Adamantium in "The Ultron Imperative" and at the end his body was destroyed leaving only his head. VERY shortly after, he took over Iron Man's sentient Armor as a body, but that was destroyed too. At the end of the arc, we see Jocasta in a new body walking away from a hospital with Ultron's head in tow. It doesn't speak or anything, so I really couldn't say if it's "alive".

So, long story short, I'd say his head's made out of admantium right now.

[Elijya]

hey, what issue did doom stand up to teh purple man? oh, and here's further argument about how Doom could beat even Batman:

http://www.nuklearpower.com/comics/031016.png
http://www.nuklearpower.com/comics/031018.png

[TheCorpulent1]

Originally posted by Elijya
hey, what issue did doom stand up to teh purple man?
That would be the Emperor Doom graphic novel.

The Black Mage/Red Fighter strips are hilarious. :)

[X]

Originally posted by bat_in_d_hat
hehe!! thanks a lot Corp!!! so doom's really the baddest of em all ei!..that was very informative..but did he try to control Ultron? i mean can Doom take on Ultron anytime although not physically but through devious schemes, inventions and stuff..is there an existing story where the two met either as friend or foe i bet doom has something planned in repelling, absorbing, or whatever it is on Ultron's deadly encephalo ray.

Doom made Ultron his ***** during Secret Wars. :up: :D

[bat_in_d_hat]

Originally posted by Mr. X
Doom made Ultron his ***** during Secret Wars. :up: :D

truly doom is the baddest of em' all!:eek:

[X]

Ah, another Doom feat that comes to mind. He once had The Hulk come after him, and he did okay against him for a while. Then The Hulk got ahold of him and crushed him inside of his armor. He had him in a bear hug, and kept screaming at Doom to give up. Doom was defiant to the end, when The Hulk finally laid off and jumped away. Doom was screaming at him to come back when The Hulk was doing so too. :D

Plus, Doom lost an arm, and a leg during his big fight with The Beyonder. He was lying on the ground, and The Beyonder started to strip the flesh off his bones, organs, everything. Doom still fought back, and valiantly reached up and activated his back up device, and beat The Beyonder.

[bat_in_d_hat]

goddamn Mr.X!!! maybe you should put up a new thread on Dr. Doom..or do you know any thread that features doom's incredible feats..but hey, did doom tried to mind control the huk to do his bidding somethin like being his ultimate henchman of sorts..

[bat_in_d_hat]

thanks Mr. X for the info.

[X]

Originally posted by bat_in_d_hat
thanks Mr. X for the info.

No problem. :)

Doom actually admits that Banner is more intelligent then him in several ways, but in general he's (Dooms) smarted. Anyhow, he uses Banner to create a Gamma Bomb, after tricking everyone into thinking The Hulks died. Doom made a Hulk robot and it was then "killed" by the military. He then uses The Hulk and the gamma bomb to try and destroy a neighboring country, but Banner, along with Dooms lover outsmart him, and gamma bomb explodes harmlessy on The Hulks back in the desert, which is one of the most insane feats of durability ever. It's all in my Hulk world thread (link in my sig) if you're interested. :)

[bat_in_d_hat]

http://img13.photobucket.com/albums/v39/bmovie_buff/Hulk_Killpower.jpg


i love this pic..my friend and i laughed so hard when we saw this one! your thread is simply superb Mr. X!!

[Elijya]

Originally posted by bat_in_d_hat
goddamn Mr.X!!! maybe you should put up a new thread on Dr. Doom..or do you know any thread that features doom's incredible feats..but hey, did doom tried to mind control the huk to do his bidding somethin like being his ultimate henchman of sorts..

you're thinking of Apocalypse, he made Hulk his Horseman of War


Although, in the Marvel/Wildstorm crossover, Hulk was one of Doom's elemental creatures he unleashed. But then Maul got super pissed, grew to, like, 50 stories tall, crushed Hulk, then died of a heart attack

[bat_in_d_hat]

http://img13.photobucket.com/albums/v39/bmovie_buff/Hulk_Ivurnable_Achilles.jpg

and this one too..:D :D :D

[bat_in_d_hat]

Originally posted by Elijya
you're thinking of Apocalypse, he made Hulk his Horseman of War


Although, in the Marvel/Wildstorm crossover, Hulk was one of Doom's elemental creatures he unleashed. But then Maul got super pissed, grew to, like, 50 stories tall, crushed Hulk, then died of a heart attack

that is not possible! well of all the invulnerability and super strength of any comic character none is more powerful than a writer's pen..*sigh* hulk can just die like that its just so...so...so.....puny :(

[TheCorpulent1]

I think he meant that Maul died of a heart attack from growing so big. Anyway, it's a Marvel/Wildstorm crossover, so it doesn't really count for anything.

[bat_in_d_hat]

ok i see thanks corp!

[X]

Originally posted by bat_in_d_hat
http://img13.photobucket.com/albums/v39/bmovie_buff/Hulk_Killpower.jpg


i love this pic..my friend and i laughed so hard when we saw this one! your thread is simply superb Mr. X!!

Heh, cool, and thanks, I appreciate it. :) Anything you'd like to see in added in that thread? If so, let me know. :)

[bat_in_d_hat]

sure..you know i kinda regret that i didn't include hulk in my comic collection...maybe it was the art..i always buy my comics based on the art if it didn't satisfy me then i aint picking it up..it was mike deodato jr's art that discouraged me to pick hulk up i don't like his style.

[X]

Hmmm. Well, it's never too late to pick up back issues. :)

I'm personally partial to Herb Trimpe, Dale Keown, and Sal Buscema when it comes to Hulk related art.

[Elijya]

Originally posted by bat_in_d_hat
sure..you know i kinda regret that i didn't include hulk in my comic collection...maybe it was the art..i always buy my comics based on the art if it didn't satisfy me then i aint picking it up..it was mike deodato jr's art that discouraged me to pick hulk up i don't like his style.

you DON'T want to pick up the last few year's worth of hulk's pure crap

find some nice back issues of Peter David's run something like issues 331-467

[bat_in_d_hat]

i mean not to pick the title up...sorry i typed it wrong

[Darthphere]

So what is the Hulk/Thing mini going to be about anyways?

[TheCorpulent1]

Looks like it's gonna be about the Hulk kicking the Thing's ass. Again.

[X]

The Hulk rarely completly kicks The Things ass. Ben's always put up very good fights. I mean, look no farther then his performances against the SS and The Champion. He isn't mistreated or anything. :o If anything, the complete opposite.

[TheCorpulent1]

The Hulk still beats him pretty much every time. That's what I meant by my comment, that yet another Thing vs. Hulk fight is kind of pointless because the Thing has consistently lost every or almost every fight between them.

[Darthphere]

Originally posted by TheCorpulent1
The Hulk still beats him pretty much every time. That's what I meant by my comment, that yet another Thing vs. Hulk fight is kind of pointless because the Thing has consistently lost every or almost every fight between them.

Maybe hell be given powers making him Cosmic Thing to defeat the Tri-Sentinel and he..... oh wait nevermind.:p

[X]

Originally posted by TheCorpulent1
The Hulk still beats him pretty much every time. That's what I meant by my comment, that yet another Thing vs. Hulk fight is kind of pointless because the Thing has consistently lost every or almost every fight between them.

Bleh, they've always been enjoyable enough for me. Haven't had a good one in a while. One of those annual Marvel kind of things. :D

[TheCorpulent1]

Originally posted by darthphere
Maybe hell be given powers making him Cosmic Thing to defeat the Tri-Sentinel and he..... oh wait nevermind.:p
Hehe. :)

[Darthphere]

I was thinking about starting a thread about this but ill just ask here.

Is Squadron Supreme the closest thing Marvel has to DC's Watchmen? In terms of quality and overall story and lets say controversy.

[Darthphere]

So nobody has nothing to say about this?

[Elijya]

Originally posted by darthphere
I was thinking about starting a thread about this but ill just ask here.

Is Squadron Supreme the closest thing Marvel has to DC's Watchmen? In terms of quality and overall story and lets say controversy.

that's a question of opinion, not fact. The answer is probably "yes", though, but remember, SS pre-dates Watchmen

[Darthphere]

I know SS came out before Watchmen and thats why I was wondering. Okay so let me rephrase the question: In your opinion is Squadron Supreme the closest thing Marvel has to Watchmen?

[I. B. Abadman]

Originally posted by darthphere
now with shiny new hologram cover.

Ok heres the point to this thread. You got a question you think is stupid come ask it here. No need to clutter up the forum with 800 threads about how far Mr. Fantastic can stretch. No one will make fun of you and ill make sure of it!:mad: . So ask away anything you want. Non-stupid questions are also welcomed.


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" Exactly why is it that when spiderman hits someone at full strength who has partial invulnerability that he doesn't break his hand?"

I'm saying what can hurt him and what he can do doesn't add up.
You can cut him,.. but he can survive having a brick wall cushion his fall without cuts or bruises.

Does anyone understand what I'm asking?

[TheCorpulent1]

Yeah. Comics just don't take physics into account that well, I guess. I've wondered that myself, like why Luke Cage, if his skin isn't broken by bullets but Spider-Man's is, wouldn't automatically be considered tougher than Spider-Man and thus negate Spider-Man's ability to hurt him. Wouldn't Spider-Man's own hand be broken if he punched Luke if Luke is more durable than Spider-Man is?

[I. B. Abadman]

Originally posted by TheCorpulent1
Yeah. Comics just don't take physics into account that well, I guess. I've wondered that myself, like why Luke Cage, if his skin isn't broken by bullets but Spider-Man's is, wouldn't automatically be considered tougher than Spider-Man and thus negate Spider-Man's ability to hurt him. Wouldn't Spider-Man's own hand be broken if he punched Luke if Luke is more durable than Spider-Man is?

Yah, I'm the sort who wonders all the time.

for example,.. Iron Man can survive a suborbital hop where the stresses would shread and crumble most man-made materials,... yet someone with 100 ton or better strength can hit hard enough to knock off pieces?

Or why don't folk smell Giant man coming? if I can smell your average person from a foot or so away, and can smell something like an Elephant or giraffe from 30 or forty feet away,.... something that big you should at least smell 1/4 mile away or better.

Or howcum the tech used by most villians and heroes are not used more in the everyday marvel universe?

Pym particles would make construction a breeze,...

[X]

Iron Man's armor allows him to travel into space, re-enter earths atmosphere, and so on. Designed to do such things and what not.

Pym particles are also more then likely insanly expensive and nearly impossible to mass produce. I don't think very many people would be qualified to use them either. A lot of adamantiums uses around the MU though. The Vault, certain automated buildings, S.h.i.e.l.d, and so on. Some Avengers places use Omnium as well. Mostly metals that get the most uses I suppose.

[Darthphere]

Reed has adamantium tools right?

[X]

Yeah. He used them in the past to operate on The Hulk.

[Darthphere]

How does that work? I was under the impression that Wolverine's claws couldnt cut into Hulk's skin.

[TheCorpulent1]

A writer decided Reed's instruments could, so they could. That's about the only way I can account for most inconsistencies these days.

[Darthphere]

Tis' is true.

[X]

Originally posted by TheCorpulent1
A writer decided Reed's instruments could, so they could. That's about the only way I can account for most inconsistencies these days.

It was The Banner-Less Post Onslaught Hulk, so he wasn't as tough. And Reed was constantly using these adamantium laced antibodies things to keep the wound from healing up/ It's in my Hulk world thread.

[Supergirl]

I've got a stupid ?

Spidey uses his two middle fingers to trigger his webbing right. so when he makes a fist wouldn't it activate it too?

[X]

I think that probably negates it. ;)

[Elijya]

Originally posted by LanternLight
I've got a stupid ?

Spidey uses his two middle fingers to trigger his webbing right. so when he makes a fist wouldn't it activate it too?


<sigh>

as has been said 2 MILLION TIMES!!!.....


the web shooters require a double tap, so making a fist doesn't activate them

[Darthphere]

Originally posted by Elijya
<sigh>

as has been said 2 MILLION TIMES!!!.....


the web shooters require a double tap, so making a fist doesn't activate them

No need to make anyone feel stupid. Thats what the threads for. So peopel can ask stupid questions without being made fun of.

And by the way its 3 million times.:p

[Jakesteraholic]

What is the deal with all the different Ant-Men?:( Pym, and then that Scott guy who died in Avengers just now, and then apparently there was someone else?:confused::( And do they all use Pym Particles? That's kinky:o

[X]

Originally posted by Jakesteraholic
What is the deal with all the different Ant-Men?:( Pym, and then that Scott guy who died in Avengers just now, and then apparently there was someone else?:confused::( And do they all use Pym Particles? That's kinky:o

Pym is the original Ant-Man. Then Scott Lang. Someone else? Do you mean Yellowjacket or something? That was Pym with a different personality. And there was an evil Wasp type chick as well. Pym Particles are just what's used to shrink and then grow again.

[captainrogers]

Help me out here: I just got through reading my copies of the original 12 issue "Secret Wars" again. I just wanted to know whatever happened to The Molecule Man and Volcana?

[X]

The Molecule Man eventually formed with another being, whose name escapes me at the moment, to make a complete cosmic cube. Before that he lived with Volcana for a while, and was involved in Secret Wars 2. He pretty much burnt his power out at the end going against the Beyonder, and this was without any mental blocks. He had an appearance in a Hulk comic as well, he was having problems with Volcana, and was looking for Samson for help. Not sure what Volcana's doing at the moment, probably in comic book limbo if anything.

[captainrogers]

Thanks man!

[I. B. Abadman]

Originally posted by LanternLight
I've got a stupid ?

Spidey uses his two middle fingers to trigger his webbing right. so when he makes a fist wouldn't it activate it too?
I remember this one:

Nope the webshooters are activated at a "double-tap" at something like 40 PSI, Balling up his fist won't set them off, and you need superstrength to use them.

[X]

Originally posted by captainrogers
Thanks man!

No problem. :cool:

[I. B. Abadman]

Originally posted by Mr. X
Iron Man's armor allows him to travel into space, re-enter earths atmosphere, and so on. Designed to do such things and what not.

Pym particles are also more then likely insanly expensive and nearly impossible to mass produce. I don't think very many people would be qualified to use them either. A lot of adamantiums uses around the MU though. The Vault, certain automated buildings, S.h.i.e.l.d, and so on. Some Avengers places use Omnium as well. Mostly metals that get the most uses I suppose. that's right,.. owe you a thanks,... sorta,..

[Ahura Mazda]

I actually have two questions:

1. What did Apocolypse exactly do to Hulk to make him into War; is it correct to say that he is one of the most powerful incarnations?

2. I know that an extra dimension or universe had been openned to divert the Beyonder's power killing him. What happenned to it and that I mean does anybody ever travel to or from that universe anymore?

Sorry I know that the second is pretty stupid but I was wondering - instead of working like I should be :)

[TheCorpulent1]

1. Apocalypse gave the Hulk Celestial enhancements. That incarnation of the Hulk was already dying from being separated from Banner after Onslaught, but as War it was said that he'd be able to take down a Celestial, so I imagine he'd be up there in power. He certainly kicked the Juggernaut's ass with little effort.

[Ahura Mazda]

Thanks Corp - but did those enhancements just mean that he was permanently at peak level (which supposedly is infinite).

Maybe my follow up question should be what are exactly celestial enhancements and what do they do.

I apologise for these questions but I use to collect comics when I was living in the States (this was in 1987) and stopped after moving. I only recently restarted reading marvel comic books again. So I am kind of missing about 16 years of comic book history.

[X]

Originally posted by Ahura Mazda
2. I know that an extra dimension or universe had been openned to divert the Beyonder's power killing him. What happenned to it and that I mean does anybody ever travel to or from that universe anymore?

Sorry I know that the second is pretty stupid but I was wondering - instead of working like I should be :)

The Beyonder pretty much killed himself, that coupled with The Molecule Mans power reverted him back to an non-sentinent energy form. If it wasn't for The Beyonder trying to turn himself human, it would of never happened. And no, I don't think anyones ever travelled there before. But The Beyonder later did come back and merge with The Molecule Man, becoming a cosmic cube like that or something. The Beyonder was supposedly never that powerful to begin with, The Celestials were just messing with him.

[DBM]

Originally posted by Mr. X
The Beyonder pretty much killed himself, that coupled with The Molecule Mans power reverted him back to an non-sentinent energy form. If it wasn't for The Beyonder trying to turn himself human, it would of never happened. And no, I don't think anyones ever travelled there before. But The Beyonder later did come back and merge with The Molecule Man, becoming a cosmic cube like that or something. The Beyonder was supposedly never that powerful to begin with, The Celestials were just messing with him.

****ing Celestials. Always screwing with stuff. :mad:

[X]

Indeed. :D

The Hulk and Thor sure showed em'. :D ;)

[TheCorpulent1]

The name of the Beyonder/Molecule Man cosmic cube, when it evolved into a sentient being, is Kubik. :)

Ahura: I'm not too sure about what exactly the War Hulk's enhancements were because I've never read those issues. I'm sure someone else knows, though.

[WeeZiTe]

Originally posted by Mr. X
Yeah. He used them in the past to operate on The Hulk. How would that work? If you cut the Hulk's flesh wouldn't it just heal back really quickly?

[Ahura Mazda]

Originally posted by Mr. X
The Beyonder pretty much killed himself, that coupled with The Molecule Mans power reverted him back to an non-sentinent energy form. If it wasn't for The Beyonder trying to turn himself human, it would of never happened. And no, I don't think anyones ever travelled there before. But The Beyonder later did come back and merge with The Molecule Man, becoming a cosmic cube like that or something. The Beyonder was supposedly never that powerful to begin with, The Celestials were just messing with him.
--------------------------------------------------------------------------------

Thanks Mr X - that seems quite contrived after two mini series where he was all powerful - which in itself seemed strange

[The name of the Beyonder/Molecule Man cosmic cube, when it evolved into a sentient being, is Kubik.

Ahura: I'm not too sure about what exactly the War Hulk's enhancements were because I've never read those issues. I'm sure someone else knows, though./TheCorpulent1]

Thanks Corp - Maybe Mr. X knows if he would like to respond

And I have a really stupid question how do you guys post a quote in here or where do I go to find out.

Thanks for the above.

[TheCorpulent1]

You put whatever you want to quote in these: [quote] [*/quote] without the *. Or, you can click on the http://www.superherohype.com/forums/images/quote.gif button at the bottom-right of whichever post you want to quote from.

[Ahura Mazda]

Originally posted by TheCorpulent1
You put whatever you want to quote in these: [quote] [*/quote] without the *. Or, you can click on the http://www.superherohype.com/forums/images/quote.gif button at the bottom-right of whichever post you want to quote from.

Thanks Corp :D

[TheCorpulent1]

Originally posted by TheCorpulent1
You're quite welcome. :)

[X]

Originally posted by WeeZiTe
How would that work? If you cut the Hulk's flesh wouldn't it just heal back really quickly?

As I said, he was using adamantium lace antibodies to keep the cuts open, and even then it was barely working.

The whole War Hulk deal... The Hulk was on his last legs, dieing. Apoc captured him, and The Hulk pretty much eventually submited and let him do his thing. He had the energy of the Hero's Reborn Universe flowing into him or something, plus this snake like, extremly strong cable which snaked out of his wrist, ala The Constrictor. Also had a Celestial Sword, supposedly capable of killing The Juggernaut. He also stopped The Juggernaut dead in his tracks, impressive considering Juggy has unlimited momentum...

[WeeZiTe]

Originally posted by Mr. X
As I said, he was using adamantium lace antibodies to keep the cuts open, and even then it was barely working. Ah, I missed that.. That'd do it. Thanks.

[X]

No problem. :)

Anything else?

[Ahura Mazda]

Originally posted by Mr. X
The whole War Hulk deal... The Hulk was on his last legs, dieing. Apoc captured him, and The Hulk pretty much eventually submited and let him do his thing. He had the energy of the Hero's Reborn Universe flowing into him or something, plus this snake like, extremly strong cable which snaked out of his wrist, ala The Constrictor. Also had a Celestial Sword, supposedly capable of killing The Juggernaut. He also stopped The Juggernaut dead in his tracks, impressive considering Juggy has unlimited momentum...

Thanks Mr. X.

So the Hulk suddenly had full energy/strength along with sword skills and a cable projectile. Was it a good read?

[X]

Yup. Pretty damn good comics. :up: :)

[Ahura Mazda]

Originally posted by Mr. X
Yup. Pretty damn good comics. :up: :)


I guess I will have to search ebay for some copies then - could you possibly tell me what issues I would need to get. Thankyou in advance :)

[X]

Hulk vol. 2 #456-457. :)

[Elijya]

sucks it was only 2 issues. That idea should definitely have gone on a little longer

[Darthphere]

Really dumb question. In the comics how far has Mr. Fantastic actually stretched?

[captainrogers]

Originally posted by darthphere
Really dumb question. In the comics how far has Mr. Fantastic actually stretched?

......And just how much could Sue handle? ;)

sorry, couldn't help myself. :(

[X]

Originally posted by darthphere
Really dumb question. In the comics how far has Mr. Fantastic actually stretched?

Couple thousand feet I believe.

[TheCorpulent1]

Woohoo, I came up with another stupid question! Um... what's the deal with Spider-Man's ability to dodge bullets? Everyone knows he can easily dodge a hail of bullets from a machine gun, but is that due mostly to his spider-sense? If he didn't have his spider-sense but he saw the gun firing, would his reflexes and agility be enough for him to dodge in time? Or does he need the added precognition to know where to bob and weave to, so to speak?

[X]

Doesen't his Spidey Sense more or less navigate him into the best positions for avoiding somethings? Like, on a subconscious levels at times? The persons finger squeezes down, bullets fly from the barrel, Peter leaps up and does a weird sideways leap, avoids all of the bullets. Get what I'm saying? I'm sure it would be much, much harder without his SS.

[WeeZiTe]

I think in SSM #2 or something.. Something early, Jenkins wrote how the Spidey sense worked in a scenario like this. It was easily the best thing he's done on his SSM run. He said something along the lines of, "Time slows down." and that, "The impossible happens.. The bullets get there... But I'm already gone." So I guess it's that time does indeed slow down for him and coupled with his super speed, he dodges them. I'm not saying like, slow down as drastically as the fight with Flash in Spider-Man: The Movie.. Fast enough so that he has to react quickly and not just step out of the way.

[TheCorpulent1]

The movie fight with Flash was actually pretty accurate, I thought. Peter moves and reacts about 15 times faster than a normal human, doesn't he?

[X]

And everyone completly ignores Mr. X... :o :(

[WeeZiTe]

Originally posted by TheCorpulent1
The movie fight with Flash was actually pretty accurate, I thought. Peter moves and reacts about 15 times faster than a normal human, doesn't he? I thought the fly flapping it's wings so slow was pretty overdramatic.

[TheCorpulent1]

Originally posted by Mr. X
And everyone completly ignores Mr. X... :o :(
I read it, I just didn't have anything to say about it. I can't verify it or disprove it. Thanks, though.

[X]

I was just joking anyhow. :)

[Ahura Mazda]

Originally posted by Mr. X
Hulk vol. 2 #456-457. :)

Thanks Mr. X

[Ahura Mazda]

Just one more question

Does God exist in the marvel universe - just was wondering because I realise you have quite a few cosmic entities and mythological gods, you even had the beyonder, but is there any mention of God?

[Unthinkable]

I think he is called One above all, and the Living Tribunal works for him.

[WeeZiTe]

In the FF arc "Hereafter" there was a God.

[Ahura Mazda]

Originally posted by Unthinkable.50
I think he is called One above all, and the Living Tribunal works for him.

Originally posted by WeeZiTe
In the FF arc "Hereafter" there was a God.

Thanks :)

So does that mean the big bang that happenned creating the marvel universe and Galactus (am not sure but I think I remember reading that somewhere) was caused by the One above all. So in this FF arc, was the God the same one referred to by the Unthinkable .

Sorry about all these religious questions but I do find it fascinating how in a world full of Gods, Cosmic Entities and Demi-Gods (or superheroes for that matter), God can exist and yet still could be believed in by comic characters if they had faith that the Marvel God existed even as they see many God-like entities in their reality.

Sorry for my rant - :D - I promise not to do it next time

[DBM]

Regarding Spider-man dodging bullets.

Let's look at it with some facts.

A slow bullet (say from a pistol) travels at about 1000 feet per second(fps) (give or take a little).
Average human reaction time to an auditory stimulus (such as a gun shot) is .17 seconds
Spidey's reflexes are 15 times faster than an average human


This would mean that Spidey could react to an auditory stimulus (gunshot) in .01 seconds (rounding a little to make it simple).

That would mean that the bullet (assuming a speed of 1000 fps) would have traveled 10 feet by the time he reacts. If he was more than 10 feet away then he should be able to dodge it. This is for a pistol though.

A machine gun, or rifle, fires at a much faster velocity. For simplicity of calculation lets use 4000 feet per second (fps), which is a good average. So our facts look like this now:


A fast bullet (say from an automatic rifle) travels at about 4000 feet per second(fps) (give or take a little).
Average human reaction time to an auditory stimulus (such as a gun shot) is .17 seconds
Spidey's reflexes are 15 times faster than an average human


This would mean that Spidey still could react to an auditory stimulus (gunshot) in .01 seconds (rounding a little to make it simple).

That would mean that the bullet (assuming a speed of 4000 fps) would have traveled 40 feet by the time he reacts. That would mean that he would need to be more than 40 feet away in order to dodge.

“So how does he dodge machine gun fire up close?” you ask. Add in the Spidey-sense.

If his spider-sense gives him a several hundreths of a second warning (as it says here (http://www.marveldirectory.com/individuals/s/spiderman.htm)) then we’d have these facts now:


A fast bullet (say from an automatic rifle) travels at about 4000 feet per second(fps) (give or take a little).
Average human reaction time to an auditory stimulus (such as a gun shot) is .17 seconds
Spidey's reflexes are 15 times faster than an average human
Spidey-sense lets him react 9 hundredths of a second (assumed for simplicity of calculation) faster than his physical abilities alone.


Spidey would then react to an auditory stimulus (gunshot) in .001 seconds.

That would mean that the bullet (assuming a speed of 4000 fps) would have traveled 4 feet by the time he reacts. He would only need to have a little more than 4 feet between him and the gun. That’s not too much space.

Also if we take into account that Spider-Man is probably 15 times faster than a peak human rather than an average human (which we were using when calculating) and that the spider-sense actually gives some precognitive warning rather than just quicker reaction time it is entirely believable that he can dodge bullets.

There’s a lot of assuming and rounding in this but I think the points still stand.

And that, boys and girls, is why science and math are important.

[Ahura Mazda]

Originally posted by DBM
Regarding Spider-man dodging bullets.

Let's look at it with some facts.

A slow bullet (say from a pistol) travels at about 1000 feet per second(fps) (give or take a little).
Average human reaction time to an auditory stimulus (such as a gun shot) is .17 seconds
Spidey's reflexes are 15 times faster than an average human


This would mean that Spidey could react to an auditory stimulus (gunshot) in .01 seconds (rounding a little to make it simple).

That would mean that the bullet (assuming a speed of 1000 fps) would have traveled 10 feet by the time he reacts. If he was more than 10 feet away then he should be able to dodge it. This is for a pistol though.

A machine gun, or rifle, fires at a much faster velocity. For simplicity of calculation lets use 4000 feet per second (fps), which is a good average. So our facts look like this now:


A fast bullet (say from an automatic rifle) travels at about 4000 feet per second(fps) (give or take a little).
Average human reaction time to an auditory stimulus (such as a gun shot) is .17 seconds
Spidey's reflexes are 15 times faster than an average human


This would mean that Spidey still could react to an auditory stimulus (gunshot) in .01 seconds (rounding a little to make it simple).

That would mean that the bullet (assuming a speed of 4000 fps) would have traveled 40 feet by the time he reacts. That would mean that he would need to be more than 40 feet away in order to dodge.

“So how does he dodge machine gun fire up close?” you ask. Add in the Spidey-sense.

If his spider-sense gives him a several hundreths of a second warning (as it says here (http://www.marveldirectory.com/individuals/s/spiderman.htm)) then we’d have these facts now:


A fast bullet (say from an automatic rifle) travels at about 4000 feet per second(fps) (give or take a little).
Average human reaction time to an auditory stimulus (such as a gun shot) is .17 seconds
Spidey's reflexes are 15 times faster than an average human
Spidey-sense lets him react 9 hundredths of a second (assumed for simplicity of calculation) faster than his physical abilities alone.


Spidey would then react to an auditory stimulus (gunshot) in .001 seconds.

That would mean that the bullet (assuming a speed of 4000 fps) would have traveled 4 feet by the time he reacts. He would only need to have a little more than 4 feet between him and the gun. That’s not too much space.

Also if we take into account that Spider-Man is probably 15 times faster than a peak human rather than an average human (which we were using when calculating) and that the spider-sense actually gives some precognitive warning rather than just quicker reaction time it is entirely believable that he can dodge bullets.

There’s a lot of assuming and rounding in this but I think the points still stand.

And that, boys and girls, is why science and math are important.

Even with the inaccuracies and generalisations that is a fantastic piece of reasoning :up: :up:

[WeeZiTe]

Originally posted by DBM
Regarding Spider-man dodging bullets.

Let's look at it with some facts.

A slow bullet (say from a pistol) travels at about 1000 feet per second(fps) (give or take a little).
Average human reaction time to an auditory stimulus (such as a gun shot) is .17 seconds
Spidey's reflexes are 15 times faster than an average human


This would mean that Spidey could react to an auditory stimulus (gunshot) in .01 seconds (rounding a little to make it simple).

That would mean that the bullet (assuming a speed of 1000 fps) would have traveled 10 feet by the time he reacts. If he was more than 10 feet away then he should be able to dodge it. This is for a pistol though.

A machine gun, or rifle, fires at a much faster velocity. For simplicity of calculation lets use 4000 feet per second (fps), which is a good average. So our facts look like this now:


A fast bullet (say from an automatic rifle) travels at about 4000 feet per second(fps) (give or take a little).
Average human reaction time to an auditory stimulus (such as a gun shot) is .17 seconds
Spidey's reflexes are 15 times faster than an average human


This would mean that Spidey still could react to an auditory stimulus (gunshot) in .01 seconds (rounding a little to make it simple).

That would mean that the bullet (assuming a speed of 4000 fps) would have traveled 40 feet by the time he reacts. That would mean that he would need to be more than 40 feet away in order to dodge.

“So how does he dodge machine gun fire up close?” you ask. Add in the Spidey-sense.

If his spider-sense gives him a several hundreths of a second warning (as it says here (http://www.marveldirectory.com/individuals/s/spiderman.htm)) then we’d have these facts now:


A fast bullet (say from an automatic rifle) travels at about 4000 feet per second(fps) (give or take a little).
Average human reaction time to an auditory stimulus (such as a gun shot) is .17 seconds
Spidey's reflexes are 15 times faster than an average human
Spidey-sense lets him react 9 hundredths of a second (assumed for simplicity of calculation) faster than his physical abilities alone.


Spidey would then react to an auditory stimulus (gunshot) in .001 seconds.

That would mean that the bullet (assuming a speed of 4000 fps) would have traveled 4 feet by the time he reacts. He would only need to have a little more than 4 feet between him and the gun. That’s not too much space.

Also if we take into account that Spider-Man is probably 15 times faster than a peak human rather than an average human (which we were using when calculating) and that the spider-sense actually gives some precognitive warning rather than just quicker reaction time it is entirely believable that he can dodge bullets.

There’s a lot of assuming and rounding in this but I think the points still stand.

And that, boys and girls, is why science and math are important. :up:

If they taught math like you just did in school, I'd be a genius... :p

[TheCorpulent1]

Thanks, DBM. :up:
Originally posted by Ahura Mazda
Thanks :)

So does that mean the big bang that happenned creating the marvel universe and Galactus (am not sure but I think I remember reading that somewhere) was caused by the One above all. So in this FF arc, was the God the same one referred to by the Unthinkable .

Sorry about all these religious questions but I do find it fascinating how in a world full of Gods, Cosmic Entities and Demi-Gods (or superheroes for that matter), God can exist and yet still could be believed in by comic characters if they had faith that the Marvel God existed even as they see many God-like entities in their reality.

Sorry for my rant - :D - I promise not to do it next time
I'm pretty sure the One Above All is not Marvel's god. It's just the most powerful of the Celestials.

Marvel's god is usually just referred to as the Supreme Being and HE'S the Living Tribunal's boss. It's fairly clear that this Supreme Being is meant to be God since it imbued the Living Tribunal with only a fraction of its power and the Living Tribunal is the most powerful being in the Marvel universe.

If the question of god and religiosity, despite the fact that deities and superheroes are running around Marvel's Earth, interests you, I'd HIGHLY recommend you pick up the Thor: Gods on Earth and Thor: Spiral TPBs. They have a really, really interesting look at divinity and what happens when Thor quits the hero act and actually starts working in "mysterious ways." :)

[Ahura Mazda]

Originally posted by TheCorpulent1
Thanks, DBM. :up:

I'm pretty sure the One Above All is not Marvel's god. It's just the most powerful of the Celestials.

Marvel's god is usually just referred to as the Supreme Being and HE'S the Living Tribunal's boss. It's fairly clear that this Supreme Being is meant to be God since it imbued the Living Tribunal with only a fraction of its power and the Living Tribunal is the most powerful being in the Marvel universe.

If the question of god and religiosity, despite the fact that deities and superheroes are running around Marvel's Earth, interests you, I'd HIGHLY recommend you pick up the Thor: Gods on Earth and Thor: Spiral TPBs. They have a really, really interesting look at divinity and what happens when Thor quits the hero act and actually starts working in "mysterious ways." :)

Thanks Corp - I actually enjoyed quite a bit of jurgens run when Asgard was over Manhattan and Thursday became Thor's day (which is the origin of that day anyway). I will try and get the stuff off of Ebay. :)

[Ahura Mazda]

To those of you in London (and preferably west end), do you have any addresses of where it is best to buy the comics. The mail seems quite slow with my subscriptions and ebay has been difficult (paypal and delivery problems).

I doubt this is the right place for this question but I did not want to start a thread in order to just get one or two adresses.

[Elijya]

Originally posted by Ahura Mazda
To those of you in London (and preferably west end), do you have any addresses of where it is best to buy the comics. The mail seems quite slow with my subscriptions and ebay has been difficult (paypal and delivery problems).

I doubt this is the right place for this question but I did not want to start a thread in order to just get one or two adresses.


www.the-master-list.com

[X]

Originally posted by The Sabretooth
Sabre's Stupid Question:

Has Iron Man ever defeated Hulk with his Hulk Buster suit?

No, he's beaten him with his normal armor though. He gave The Professor a decent tussle with his Hulk buster armor.

[X]

Originally posted by Ahura Mazda
Just one more question

Does God exist in the marvel universe - just was wondering because I realise you have quite a few cosmic entities and mythological gods, you even had the beyonder, but is there any mention of God?

According to Jim Starlin there is no god in the MU, just an unlimited power source which allowed it's taker to become that supreme being. Thanos did it in the end. :rolleyes:

[the defenders]

Can someone please find me a bio with power listings for Molecule Man?

[X]

http://classicmarvel.com/cast/moleculeman.htm

Might want to use that in your write up, the link that is. I don't remember him ever powering someone up though, and I flipped through Secret Wars last night. Hmmmm.

[Darthphere]

Originally posted by Mr. X
According to Jim Starlin there is no god in the MU, just an unlimited power source which allowed it's taker to become that supreme being. Thanos did it in the end. :rolleyes:

But Kitty is still Jewish.:rolleyes:

[the defenders]

Originally posted by Mr. X
http://classicmarvel.com/cast/moleculeman.htm

Might want to use that in your write up, the link that is. I don't remember him ever powering someone up though, and I flipped through Secret Wars last night. Hmmmm.

Dude, thanks. Think about it...I have the Human Bomb and Molecule Man. Oh the possibilities. mwahahaha. :D

[X]

Heh, no problem.

Just take into account, The Molecule Man can't directly affect people, and he's a complete wuss. He's also prone to the sneak attack. Wolverine would of killed him during Secret Wars if Cyclops hadn't of saved him. Even then, The MM came extremly close to dieing, and he would of died if the villians hadn't saved him, immediantly bailing out. One good punch from somebody like Captain America would beat him as well, who's very capable of it. Don't forget what Cap did to The Red Skull who had the cube, and the MM's only half as powerful as a cosmic cube if that.

[captainrogers]

Oh, really quick, Mr.X, just how did Doom beat Beyonder and take his power? I figured it was one of those off panel things, but I was never too clear on that.:confused:

[X]

Well, after The Beyonder beats Doom and has him on the ground, he starts to pick him apart. Doom reaches up and activates the energy suction device in his chest plate, beating The Beyonder. That confused me as well. I read somewhere that The Beyonder actually just gave him his power, seeing what he'd do with it, but I buy the first one.

[Marcdachamp]

Originally posted by Ahura Mazda
Thanks :)

So does that mean the big bang that happenned creating the marvel universe and Galactus (am not sure but I think I remember reading that somewhere) was caused by the One above all. So in this FF arc, was the God the same one referred to by the Unthinkable .

Sorry about all these religious questions but I do find it fascinating how in a world full of Gods, Cosmic Entities and Demi-Gods (or superheroes for that matter), God can exist and yet still could be believed in by comic characters if they had faith that the Marvel God existed even as they see many God-like entities in their reality.

Sorry for my rant - :D - I promise not to do it next time

I always wondered about this myself...

[captainrogers]

Originally posted by Mr. X
Well, after The Beyonder beats Doom and has him on the ground, he starts to pick him apart. Doom reaches up and activates the energy suction device in his chest plate, beating The Beyonder. That confused me as well. I read somewhere that The Beyonder actually just gave him his power, seeing what he'd do with it, but I buy the first one.

I do too. Doom does not win by a fluke occurance!:mad: :D

[the defenders]

Originally posted by Mr. X
Heh, no problem.

Just take into account, The Molecule Man can't directly affect people, and he's a complete wuss. He's also prone to the sneak attack. Wolverine would of killed him during Secret Wars if Cyclops hadn't of saved him. Even then, The MM came extremly close to dieing, and he would of died if the villians hadn't saved him, immediantly bailing out. One good punch from somebody like Captain America would beat him as well, who's very capable of it. Don't forget what Cap did to The Red Skull who had the cube, and the MM's only half as powerful as a cosmic cube if that.

Well he doesn't need to affect Human Bomb...just his explosion. And as for sneak attacks...I have Unus on my team:D

[X]

Originally posted by captainrogers
I do too. Doom does not win by a fluke occurance!:mad: :D

Heh, yeah. :)

Originally posted by the defenders
Well he doesn't need to affect Human Bomb...just his explosion. And as for sneak attacks...I have Unus on my team:D

Well, make sure you don't enhance anything too much, or well. Hmmm. I just had the worst sense of deja vu. Anyhow, he'd be considered uber, Human Bomb that is. Who's The Leader on your team anyhow? I really woulden't be suprised if everyone was picking on/bullying the MM, ala Secret Wars. Need someone to keep everyone in line.

[Ahura Mazda]

Originally posted by Elijya
www.the-master-list.com


Thanks - that is very helpful :D

[TheCorpulent1]

Originally posted by Mr. X
Heh, no problem.

Just take into account, The Molecule Man can't directly affect people, and he's a complete wuss. He's also prone to the sneak attack. Wolverine would of killed him during Secret Wars if Cyclops hadn't of saved him. Even then, The MM came extremly close to dieing, and he would of died if the villians hadn't saved him, immediantly bailing out. One good punch from somebody like Captain America would beat him as well, who's very capable of it. Don't forget what Cap did to The Red Skull who had the cube, and the MM's only half as powerful as a cosmic cube if that.
Well, to be fair, Cap didn't actually hit the Red Skull when he had a cosmic cube. He turned his energy shield into a spear and threw it into the Red Skull's chest.

[X]

Originally posted by TheCorpulent1
Well, to be fair, Cap didn't actually hit the Red Skull when he had a cosmic cube. He turned his energy shield into a spear and threw it into the Red Skull's chest.

I never said Cap punched him, did I? I meant he beat him. :o

[Dark Carnage]

Not sure if this has been asked before or even the right thread but here it is.

On another forum I go to they are doing their version of "The Best of the Best" that turned up in the community a while ago.

One of the match up was Spider-Man Vs Thor. Someone said pidey is one of the few worthy enough to pick up Mjolnir. And could probably use it against Thor.

So the question is, what is it that makes a person worthy enough to pick up Mjolnir?

[Dark Carnage]

Hey! I'm the one asking the questions here! :mad:

I mean... how the hell would I know? :confused:

[TheCorpulent1]

Originally posted by The Sabretooth
I thought Odin put a spell on the hammer saying that the only one worthy was Thor.:confused:
That's wrong. Captain America and Beta Ray Bill have picked up the hammer before and so has Wonder Woman (though that was out of continuity).

The worthiness factor comes down to pretty much whoever is writing the comic. Based on the people who've picked it up before, though, I'd say it goes by the definition of worthiness from the war-filled days of yore. Heroic warriors who've proven their valor in combat. Cap braved open warfare often enough during World War II and Bill was elected the guardian of his people because he was the worthiest of their warriors. So both of them meet the requirements rather nicely.

Spider-Man, however, is a man of science. Basically, a coward by the old standards. ;)

[Docker2.0]

Has Spiderman and Captain America ever fought? I know Spiderman has went up against everyone in the Marvel universe but I can't recall if he went up against him or not.

[X]

Originally posted by Docker
Has Spiderman and Captain America ever fought? I know Spiderman has went up against everyone in the Marvel universe but I can't recall if he went up against him or not.

Cap once decked him and put him on his ass. Spidey commented his punches felt like "mini a-bombs". Something along those lines. And Spider-Man could definitely pick up Mjolnir, She-Hulk picked it up. Then again, she's just as gutsy and worthy as anyone, look what she did during Secret Wars. She defends the innocent, she's a good person and goes out of her way for people. I think you just need to be quite noble and pure.

[Guyverjay]

"Oboy, that should teach me to keep my guard up! What do you keep in those gloves?"

"pint sized a-bombs?"


Its quite funny because cap was beaten by electro a few pages after:D

[X]

Meh, Electro's handed Spidey his ass before as well. Falcon's beaten Electro too. :o

[TheCorpulent1]

Originally posted by Mr. X
Cap once decked him and put him on his ass. Spidey commented his punches felt like "mini a-bombs". Something along those lines. And Spider-Man could definitely pick up Mjolnir, She-Hulk picked it up. Then again, she's just as gutsy and worthy as anyone, look what she did during Secret Wars. She defends the innocent, she's a good person and goes out of her way for people. I think you just need to be quite noble and pure.
When did She-Hulk pick up Mjolnir?

[X]

Not exactly sure, pretty sure she did it though...

[Guyverjay]

Originally posted by Mr. X
Meh, Electro's handed Spidey his ass before as well. Falcon's beaten Electro too. :o

Spidey beaten the crap out of both falcon and electro:o

[X]

And Electro has also beaten Spidey. I didn't say Spider-Man never beat him, so don't get so offensive. :o

[Docker2.0]

Originally posted by Mr. X
Cap once decked him and put him on his ass. Spidey commented his punches felt like "mini a-bombs". Something along those lines. And Spider-Man could definitely pick up Mjolnir, She-Hulk picked it up. Then again, she's just as gutsy and worthy as anyone, look what she did during Secret Wars. She defends the innocent, she's a good person and goes out of her way for people. I think you just need to be quite noble and pure. That was it? they only fought once in all of Spidey's........................44 years?!?!! And the way it sounds, Spidey didn't even fight back. :(

[Guyverjay]

Offensive? Moi?

How do you figure?:confused:

Pointing out a fact is all and of course he has beaten spidey (he's one his villains after all) but ol electro (before his power up anyway ) was a runnng joke to the experienced spider-man. He kicked his ass more times that not

[X]

Originally posted by Docker
That was it? they only fought once in all of Spidey's........................44 years?!?!! And the way it sounds, Spidey didn't even fight back. :(

A Spider-Man robot once kicked Captain Americas ass, bad.

Just the way you said it Guyver.

[TheCorpulent1]

Originally posted by Mr. X
Not exactly sure, pretty sure she did it though...
Damn you, now I gotta do some searching. :mad:

[Guyverjay]

The pitfalls of the internet:)

[X]

Originally posted by Guyverjay
The pitfalls of the internet:)

Sucks sometimes. :o

[TheCorpulent1]

Dude, I can't find anything about She-Hulk lifting Mjolnir. I can think of only Captain America, Beta Ray Bill, Odin, Dargo, and Magni as people who've lifted the hammer by meeting the enchantment's requirements and Red Norvell, Eitri the Dwarf (its creator), and Ulik who've found some way to get around the enchantment. Eric Masterson's a tricky one who you could look at either way and Wonder Woman's out of continuity. That's it.

[X]

Well, The Destroyer and robots can pick it up. I've seen some people back in the JIM days pick it up and use it moving mini cranes and what not. And I'm almost positive Jennifer did it.

[TheCorpulent1]

Yeah, the Destroyer picks it up all the time. I'm not saying Jen didn't do it, I'm just saying I can't find anything about it. It seems like a pretty noteworthy thing to go unnoticed by like every bio page and whatnot. I'll keep looking, though.

[the defenders]

Originally posted by Mr. X
Heh, yeah. :)



Well, make sure you don't enhance anything too much, or well. Hmmm. I just had the worst sense of deja vu. Anyhow, he'd be considered uber, Human Bomb that is. Who's The Leader on your team anyhow? I really woulden't be suprised if everyone was picking on/bullying the MM, ala Secret Wars. Need someone to keep everyone in line.

Well I don't have a set leader in my team but I'd say Flash would lead us. My team has alot of holes that can easily tear us up but hey whatever. I am going to test a nwew strategy out this week anyway.

[Darthphere]

How is it that Cyclops eye lids can keep his optic blasts at bay but it takes rubies to hold the back when his eyes are open? Isnt it said hes not affected by his own blasts?

[Tropico]

He's body is immune to it the same way his brother (Havok) is immune to them and vice-versa.

[DBM]

Originally posted by darthphere
How is it that Cyclops eye lids can keep his optic blasts at bay but it takes rubies to hold the back when his eyes are open? Isnt it said hes not affected by his own blasts?

Here ya go

Originally found in Marvel Directory Cyclops Bio (http://www.marveldirectory.com/individuals/c/cyclops.htm)
Cyclops's mind has a particular psionic field that is attuned to the forces that maintain the apertures that have taken the place of his eyes. Because his mind's psionic field envelops his body, it automatically shunts the other-dimensional particles back into their point of origin when they collide with his body. Thus, his body is protected from the effects of the particles, and even the thin membrane of his eyelids is sufficient to block the emission of energy. The synthetic ruby quartz crystal used to fashion the lenses of Cyclops's eyeglasses and visor is resonant to his minds' psionic field and is similarly protected.

[RenaudMan]

Originally posted by darthphere
now with shiny new hologram cover.

Ok heres the point to this thread. You got a question you think is stupid come ask it here. No need to clutter up the forum with 800 threads about how far Mr. Fantastic can stretch. No one will make fun of you and ill make sure of it!:mad: . So ask away anything you want. Non-stupid questions are also welcomed.


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only a pathetic little loser would start a tread like this, what's the matter did Q kick all the little wanna be tools like you out too :rolleyes: I think your little dog wants to play with you f(defective in nature) LOSER

[X]

Originally posted by RenaudMan
only a pathetic little loser would start a tread like this, what's the matter did Q kick all the little wanna be tools like you out too :rolleyes: I think your little dog wants to play with you f(defective in nature) LOSER

Who in the **** are you calling a loser? This isn't an all that serious a thread, it was mainly created if somebody doese't know the anwser to something. Plenty of us "knowledgables" have been in here asking questions. And for people like Krypton, who clutter up the boards with dozens upon dozens of stupid threads. Get a grip, jackass.

[captainrogers]

Originally posted by Mr. X
Who in the **** are you calling a loser? This isn't an all that serious thread, it was mainly created if somebody doese't know the anwser to something. Plenty of us "knowledgables" have been in here asking questions. And for people like Krypton, who clutter up the boards with dozens upon dozens of stupid threads. Get a grip, jackass.

:up: :up:

[Elijya]

Originally posted by RenaudMan
only a pathetic little loser would start a tread like this, what's the matter did Q kick all the little wanna be tools like you out too :rolleyes: I think your little dog wants to play with you f(defective in nature) LOSER

who the hell is Q?

[TheCorpulent1]

A guy from Star Trek. He's characterized by the insipid twist of his mouth and his startlingly limited omnipotence. So limited, in fact, that he can't manage to outthink one bald senior citizen. :o

[Guyverjay]

Don't DISS THE PICARD:mad:

Besides Q aren't truly omnipotent anyway:o

[X]

Originally posted by The Sabretooth
How did Man-Thing become Man-Thing?

There was a man, Ted Sallis, who was working on recreating the super soldie serum that had created Captain America. He was working in this secluded cabin, with his wife, out in the middle of nowhere. His wife turned on him, planning to sell off his work to some bad people... He knew what was happening, and took off. The bad guys took chase, and ran his car off the road. Shortly before he had taken off in his car, he had injected himself with the super solider serum, to make sure no one else would get it if he were to die. That's full what he expected. Anyhow, he crashed into this swamp, and mystical energies combined with the serum changed him into a mockery of human life... The Man-Thing. Just to let everyone know, The Man-Thing actually pre-dates Swamp Thing, a common misconsception is that things are the other way around. I have pretty much everything ever Man-Thing related. Vol 1, 2, annuals, giant sizes, and so on. Still don't have his first appearances from Fear, but meh, someday. Hope that helps...

[Elijya]

ok, I know Q from star trek, but is taht who renaud was talking about?

[Santini]

Is the metal Uru tougher than Adamantium?

[Elijya]

well, when adamantium was invented, they called Thor in to test it. He couldn't dent it. So yes

[TheCorpulent1]

But he later dented Captain America's shield, which is made of the metal adamantium wishes it could be, with Mjolnir, which is made of uru. Wouldn't the uru have shattered before the shield was dented if that were the case? :confused: Marvel metals confuse me. :(

[newnoiseimage]

here is a simple marvel metalurgy lesson.



Adamantium is the hardest metal around in the U.

Uru is a mystical metal.

Isnt caps shield made of vibranium?

anyway the strongest one is all three depending on the stupid writer who will ignore rules set up by previous writers.

[DBM]

Originally posted by TheCorpulent1
But he later dented Captain America's shield, which is made of the metal adamantium wishes it could be, with Mjolnir, which is made of uru. Wouldn't the uru have shattered before the shield was dented if that were the case? :confused: Marvel metals confuse me. :(

In an effort to explain this I have created two, simple yet effective, diagrams.

Hammers are made so that the strongest part runs longitudinally through the head.

In the first diagram, we see what happens when the hammer is stressed in a way that it was not created to be stressed such as in the recent attack by Loki and his goons.

http://img26.photobucket.com/albums/v77/DBMstuff/Diagram1.jpg

In the second diagram, we see what happens when force is applied to the hammer in the way that it was intended to be, such as when Thor tested the cylinder of adamantium.

http://img26.photobucket.com/albums/v77/DBMstuff/Diagram2.jpg

Hopefully that will clear up a little as to why the uru might have broken recently but not against adamantium. It wasn't a problem of the metal but rather of the forces and stressors applied in different ways.

[newnoiseimage]

i am humbled in your presence.









or scared at the amount of free time.

one of the two.

:D

[TheCorpulent1]

Thanks, DBM. Very illuminating. :)
Originally posted by newnoiseimage
Isnt caps shield made of vibranium?
Cap's shield is an alloy of steel, vibranium, and a mystery metal that no one has ever figured out how to reproduce.

From the Shield FAQ (http://www.medinnus.com/winghead/shield_faq.html): "The shield was made from a base steel alloy mixture, vibranium, and a "mystery metal" (an alloy which has yet to be successfully reproduced) which crept in while he was asleep. The shield is harder and more durable than adamantium - adamantium itself was discovered by Dr. MacLain when he unsuccessfully tried to replicate the amalgamation."

[DBM]

Originally posted by newnoiseimage
i am humbled in your presence.

You should be.


Originally posted by newnoiseimage
or scared at the amount of free time.

one of the two.

:D

It took me all of about 2 minutes to slap that together in paint so it wasn't that much time

[captainrogers]

Originally posted by TheCorpulent1
But he later dented Captain America's shield, which is made of the metal adamantium wishes it could be, with Mjolnir, which is made of uru. Wouldn't the uru have shattered before the shield was dented if that were the case? :confused: Marvel metals confuse me. :(

Wasn't Thor in possession od the Odinpower when he dented Cap's shield? Maybe he channeled the sufficient force necessary through Mjolner to accomplish that amazing feat.:D
I mean, in the Riegning, he basically turned Wolverine to slag.:eek:

[TheCorpulent1]

Originally posted by captainrogers
I mean, in the Riegning, he basically turned Wolverine to slag.:eek:
Shyeah, that was f***in' cool. :D

I guess there could've been some magical way that Thor managed to dent Cap's shield, though it certainly doesn't suggest it in the comic itself. Thor gets really, really pissed and slams Mjolnir into the shield. Cap goes flying and lands on his ass, then Thor, realizing he almost killed one of his best friends, snaps out of it and goes away. He did seem to be a bit stronger physically with the Odinpower, but I still think if uru is weaker than adamantium and Cap's shield is stronger than adamantium, there should've been some kind of damage on Mjolnir from a blow that hard unless uru is actually stronger than the alloy Cap's shield is made of and thus stronger than adamantium. Unless I'm totally off and DBM can enlighten us further...

[Unthinkable]

How many heralds of Galactus has there been?

[X]

Originally posted by Unthinkable.50
How many heralds of Galactus has there been?

The Silver Surfer, Nova, Terrax, Morg, Red Shift, Air-Walker, The Air-Walker robot manthingy, and that's about it. Rom shortly worked for Galactus, and The Asgardian Destroyer was in the Big G's posession for a while. You could also count Tyrant and The Fallen one I suppose.

[captainrogers]

Originally posted by Mr. X
The Silver Surfer, Nova, Terrax, Morg, Red Shift, Air-Walker, The Air-Walker robot manthingy, and that's about it. Rom shortly worked for Galactus, and The Asgardian Destroyer was in the Big G's posession for a while. You could also count Tyrant and The Fallen one I suppose.
Along those lines, I just read in Marvel Previews that the big "G" is looking to add one of the Fantastic Four to that list of heralds.(In issue 519) Hmmm........... I wonder which one he wants? I'd take Sue.:D

[Darthphere]

Originally posted by captainrogers
Along those lines, I just read in Marvel Previews that the big "G" is looking to add one of the Fantastic Four to that list of heralds.(In issue 519) Hmmm........... I wonder which one he wants? I'd take Sue.:D

Why if I was Glaactus id take Franklin.

[TheCorpulent1]

Sue's the only one that wasn't on the cover... Galactus usually thinks big too, and Sue's the most powerful member of the FF. Imagine her augmented with the Power Cosmic. Invisible constructs of infinite complexity on a cosmic scale! :eek:

Good point, darthphere... or maybe Valeria has even more potential than Franklin. She's the other OTHER evolutionary jump! ;)

[captainrogers]

Originally posted by darthphere
Why if I was Glaactus id take Franklin.

Well, see, that would be the enlightened choice, but I wasn't thinking with THAT head!;)

[Darthphere]

AWW I See then if I was Galactus id take Johnny because Galactus seems to like flying naked guys.