Eddie Brock's Club House...

[The Navigator]

This is just damn cool. But it's fan art, so I won't post the actual pic. You just better pray the links work:
http://www.spiderfan.org/fans/art/w_hiros/images/venom_spidey.jpg
http://www.spiderfan.org/fans/art/w_hiros/images/spider_venom_branding.jpg
http://www.spiderfan.org/fans/art/w_hiros/images/nightfall.jpg

I mean, that's just cool.

[The Navigator]

Now see, this is MY Venom, not that crappy MK version:
http://www.spiderfan.org/fans/art/images/bw_playtime.jpg
http://www.spiderfan.org/fans/art/t_sklepic/images/venom.jpg
See what I mean? BAD. ASS.

[CKayote]

Thanks for the posts!

CKayote@worldnet.att.net

[Venom_uk]

Nice pics there Rabbit. Good find. I actually came across the first lot of pics yesterday on spiderfan.org, just didnt think about posting them for some strange reason! lol

These 2 totally rule IMO...
http://www.spiderfan.org/fans/art/w_hiros/images/spider_venom_branding.jpg
http://www.spiderfan.org/fans/art/images/bw_playtime.jpg
Just how kick ass is that 2nd pic I ask you? :eek::up:

Damn good stuff. :)

p.s. What you guys think of my new avatar? I think Rabbit will like it especially ;)

[fever red]

Rabbit's first set of posts- gorgeous art, but so d@mn slashy; too slashy for me. That was VERY overt, those two embraces. Can't believe you missed it- and the second one's called "branding," or something, isn't it? Well, branding has a specific context, one I think the artist is using here.
I love the work visually, but in terms of narrative content, I respectfully decline to consider that interp of the charactors.
Now, substitute a female for either charactor there, and I'm sold completely.
Hmm, who should Venom be holding captive...Patricia!
Who should be holding Spidey captive...well, I'd like to see more female villains. Really, I'm at a loss, here.

[The Navigator]

Nice pics there Rabbit. Good find. I actually came across the first lot of pics yesterday on spiderfan.org, just didnt think about posting them for some strange reason! lol

These 2 totally rule IMO...
http://www.spiderfan.org/fans/art/w_hiros/images/spider_venom_branding.jpg
http://www.spiderfan.org/fans/art/images/bw_playtime.jpg
Just how kick ass is that 2nd pic I ask you? :eek::up:

Damn good stuff. :)

p.s. What you guys think of my new avatar? I think Rabbit will like it especially ;)

I love the avvy. :D Who did it for you?

[The Navigator]

Thanks for the posts!

CKayote@worldnet.att.net

No problem, it's great stuff. I'm assuming this is your art?

[The Navigator]

Rabbit's first set of posts- gorgeous art, but so d@mn slashy; too slashy for me. That was VERY overt, those two embraces. Can't believe you missed it- and the second one's called "branding," or something, isn't it? Well, branding has a specific context, one I think the artist is using here.
I love the work visually, but in terms of narrative content, I respectfully decline to consider that interp of the charactors.
Now, substitute a female for either charactor there, and I'm sold completely.
Hmm, who should Venom be holding captive...Patricia!
Who should be holding Spidey captive...well, I'd like to see more female villains. Really, I'm at a loss, here.

Yep, and that context is OWN3D!! ;)

But who the crap is Patricia? Is that his ex-wife? And isn't she dead? :confused:

[fever red]

Oh, Rabbit, maybe I have the name wrong- but isn't she the possesor of V's clone in the Tsunami story? I haven't read it, but I liked the posted sample I saw of her- I'm intrigued and want the trade.
More female charactors! Good ones! Pretty Face was awesome; they should not have killed her. She should be in the Spidey books, binding men into chairs and torturing them...oh, fun woman...

[The Navigator]

I liked the Spider Wasp. Bad. Ass.

[CKayote]

No problem, it's great stuff. I'm assuming this is your art?
No, it isn't mine, I was just happy to get to see it.


Oh, Rabbit, maybe I have the name wrong- but isn't she the possesor of V's clone in the Tsunami story? I haven't read it, but I liked the posted sample I saw of her- I'm intrigued and want the trade.
More female charactors! Good ones! Pretty Face was awesome; they should not have killed her. She should be in the Spidey books, binding men into chairs and torturing them...oh, fun woman...
No, her name was Robertson. But the host of the new Venom vs Carnage symbiote is Pat something.
As for female villans, they just never last long. Too bad, some of them have been pretty cool.

CKayote@worldnet.att.net

[Symbiotica]

No, her name was Robertson. But the host of the new Venom vs Carnage symbiote is Pat something.

Her name is *Patricia* Robertson. http://img49.exs.cx/img49/6831/Carnage.gif

fever: "Oh, Rabbit, maybe I have the name wrong- but isn't she the possesor of V's clone in the Tsunami story? I haven't read it, but I liked the posted sample I saw of her- I'm intrigued and want the trade."

Be sure to get the "Run" trade too, which makes "Twist" make a lot more sense, as I recently discovered. And now that I've read Run, I'm probably going to go back and get the first TPB for this series, too. [and luckily, Run is out now and you can read it before you read Twist, if you're so inclined. I got my copy of Run off eBay and paid I think, $14.00 for it inlcuding shipping - it lists for 19.99. I love eBay.]

I enjoyed Run a lot more than I thought I would, Wolverine notwithstanding. The big fly in the ointment with this series is the craptastic, pestilential artwork of that Hererra guy, I am sorry, he is my second least-fav. comic artist ever and this work just reminds me why that is so. Luckily its balanced a bit by Medina's art; his people have sort of funny-looking faces, but he does a mean Venom.

Sure wish I had time to develop my fan-art and fic ideas right now. :(

[Venom_uk]

I love the avvy. :D Who did it for you?
Dr.Dude was kind enough to do it for me. :D:up:

[fever red]

Is this a particular seller on E-bay, or was it just a lucky catch?

[Langoth]

Hello, my name ir Langoth and I'm a Eddie Brock/Venom addict :(

*Hello Langoth rings in the background*

My oh my... how could have things gone so wrong? Eddie Brock is ony of my favorite villains, but this new chump is just not Eddie Brock... I'm hoping that Edide gets back in the saddle soon.

Knock offs piss me off.

That being said.... venom rules! lol

But seriously.

I'm very displeased with Venom's handling at the moment, especially this new **** stain version of him.

I hope Angelo goes splat :mad:

[Maxwinner]

[QUOTE=Venom_uk]
http://www.comicscontinuum.com/stories/0408/21/mkspiderman8.jpg

...& heres some internal artwork from MK:SM#8. Thanks to euroq for originaly posting this on the Spider-man Comics board...
http://www.newsarama.com/Marvel/Frank_Cho/MKSM0802.jpg
http://www.newsarama.com/Marvel/Frank_Cho/MKSM0803.jpg
http://www.newsarama.com/Marvel/Frank_Cho/MKSM0811.jpg

Dude whata ****'s wrong with his chest!? QUOTE]

[Maxwinner]

Is spidey diein!??



Sorry about Spellin'

im phukkin' Swedish dammit!

[Dangerous]

Well this fight next issue looks bretty harsh, but I gotta wonder what's goin on w/ Spideys chest, you cannot call that artistic license.
And Spidey cant be dead!
VenomII rules.

[The Navigator]

Please don't EVER put this crappified version of Venom on this thread again. Bad enough that the story's even OUT there.

I have a feeling that last image is for the cover, though. And the original and Ultimate versions of Venom rule indeed. Yes they do...

[Venom_uk]

I havn't got a clue whats going onh with Spidey's chest there! It don't look right anyway. Have to wait & see what goes on with the rest of that issue, but like dangerous' said, it sure as hell can't be 'artistic license', thats just taking the piss! lol

Rabbit, that panel is from inside pages not a cover BTW. The first pic, in colour, is the cover for that issue. :)

Please don't EVER put this crappified version of Venom on this thread again. Bad enough that the story's even OUT there.
Do be honest I don't mind if that thing gets posted in here. Aslong as its in a constructive maner & not just so someone can go "NEW VENOM ROCKS!!! OUT VENOM SUCKS!!!" because we ALL know thats not true. ;)

[Langoth]

Sorry to change subjects here...

One thing that's always bugged me, is how people have gone, until the cancer thing was 'revealed' (it was bull****, Brock's been without the symbiote on and off over the years, he would be dead), "He just lost his job, that's no reason to hate Spider-Man like he does!"

Losing his job only eh?

Let's see...

1. Eddie Brock's reputation was forever stained, and he'd almost assurably never get another job as a reporter
2. He lost his job
3. In losing his job he would soon loose his apartment
4. As far as he saw it, these events would also stop him from being able to get back together with his wife, another major blow.
5. He'd probably be disliked all around the city for what he'd done.

Gee, just his job eh?

*cough*

People just dont look at things through the right perspective...

=== === ===

Oh, and about the punch through the chest...

I think the author was just being DBZ styled :P

[Venom_uk]

Also, Eddie was never close to his Father & everything he did was to try & impress him. Thats why he became a journalist in the first place. When Eddie broke the news about the 'Sin-eater' story & he became a 'hero' for awhile, his Father started to come around & like his only son. But once Spider-man expossed the truth & Eddies story was proven to be false, Eddies Father dissowened him & said he never wanted to see him again, he was a disgrace ect ect. Or words to that effect anyway.

So yeah when people b***h about Venom only going after him because he lost him his job, thats not 100% true IMO. :)

[Langoth]

Personally I think they look for reasons to hate him due to bad writing.

Whenever Venom has been overexposed, and written badly, I don't blame Venom, I blame Marvel, I blame the editors, and I blame the writers.

I hope we get Brock back in the saddle soon, this "new" venom is a chump.

To me, he's the Jason Macandale of Venom.

Jason was the supposed "Hobgoblin". Roderick Kingsley kicks ass, no one can replace him. Jason was a chump, and was killed by Roddy and replaced, the real Hobgoblin returned, because he's a better character.

Angelo is no Venom, he's a chump, just like Macandale. I'm hoping for his demise to come sooner however.

It too Roderick Kingsley 14 years to come back... *becomes frightened*

[The Navigator]

Personally I think they look for reasons to hate him due to bad writing.

Whenever Venom has been overexposed, and written badly, I don't blame Venom, I blame Marvel, I blame the editors, and I blame the writers.

I hope we get Brock back in the saddle soon, this "new" venom is a chump.

To me, he's the Jason Macandale of Venom.

Jason was the supposed "Hobgoblin". Roderick Kingsley kicks ass, no one can replace him. Jason was a chump, and was killed by Roddy and replaced, the real Hobgoblin returned, because he's a better character.

Angelo is no Venom, he's a chump, just like Macandale. I'm hoping for his demise to come sooner however.

It too Roderick Kingsley 14 years to come back... *becomes frightened*

Wait a minute...this isn't even Brock?

Then what's the point?

Seiously, I'm putting all my chips on Ultimate Venom. At least until Brock comes back and kills this poser and stops making Venom look like ****.

So that's INSIDE the issue? Geez....I think Spidey got hisself chestbursted when we weren't looking? ;)

[Venom_uk]

I think this belongs in here...
http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v426/Venom_uk/Venom09.jpg
I posted it before in another thread so some of you might have already seen it ;)

[The Navigator]

Hehehe...good point. :up:

[venom892]

Nice pics there Rabbit. Good find. I actually came across the first lot of pics yesterday on spiderfan.org, just didnt think about posting them for some strange reason! lol

These 2 totally rule IMO...
http://www.spiderfan.org/fans/art/w_hiros/images/spider_venom_branding.jpg
http://www.spiderfan.org/fans/art/images/bw_playtime.jpg
Just how kick ass is that 2nd pic I ask you? :eek::up:

Damn good stuff. :)

p.s. What you guys think of my new avatar? I think Rabbit will like it especially ;)Dude that first one looks like spidey is being rapped by Venom!
:eek:

[Venom_uk]

Dude that first one looks like spidey is being rapped by Venom!
:eek:
What? nah...Venom's just giving him a big old friendly bear hug from behind thats all. ;) LOL

[Symbiotica]

Really, though, that's far from the worst-looking Venom ever.

That dubious honor goes to Hererra's Venom, there was also this one guy who did some issues of the 90's Venom title who did this HORRIBLE.... I mean, a really really bad version. I forget who it was, but Venom had these big slanted teeth that looked like a whale's baleen [you know, those things in their mouth they filter plankton through]. Awful awful awful.

Why can they not one time ever get Venom's body AND his head right in the same picture? Havent been right since the 90s when Bagley was on duty.

[Venom_uk]

Got any example pics sym?

[The Navigator]

Really, though, that's far from the worst-looking Venom ever.

That dubious honor goes to Hererra's Venom, there was also this one guy who did some issues of the 90's Venom title who did this HORRIBLE.... I mean, a really really bad version. I forget who it was, but Venom had these big slanted teeth that looked like a whale's baleen [you know, those things in their mouth they filter plankton through]. Awful awful awful.

Why can they not one time ever get Venom's body AND his head right in the same picture? Havent been right since the 90s when Bagley was on duty.


I know...Ultimate Spider-Man's Venom looks cool, though.

And yeah, I remember the "plankton filter" Venom...looked terrible. But I still maintain this is the worst. He's like a *****ed up mexican wrestler this way...and it isn't even Brock!!

[Venom_uk]

The body looks fine to me, its just that the spider on the chest, the head & whos inside it I don't like. :)

[Venom_uk]

http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v426/Venom_uk/Venom04.bmp

Now THATS, Venom ;) :venom:

[The Navigator]

Herrerra's body downright sucks. I actually hate Herrerra because he just blatantly rips off Ramos. It's shameful.

[The Navigator]

http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v426/Venom_uk/Venom04.bmp

Now THATS, Venom ;) :venom:

Actually, it's Peter Parker. ;)

But yeah, Bagley's Venom is the best. Actually, Bagley period is the best at Spider-Man.

[Venom_uk]

Both Herrera & Ramos suck IMHO. I hate there artwork. Not my kinda thing I'm affraid.
I've just finished reading the 'Hunger' story from Spec Spider-man over the weekend, it was hard work, good job it was a good story though :up:

[The Navigator]

Both Herrera & Ramos suck IMHO. I hate there artwork. Not my kinda thing I'm affraid.
I've just finished reading the 'Hunger' story from Spec Spider-man over the weekend, it was hard work, good job it was a good story though :up:

Thanks. ;)

I don't like their style, either. But Ramos at least has his own creativity. Herrerra just rips off what was currently hot.

I have the Shiver and Run TPBs...what's Hunger about?

[Venom_uk]

Thanks. ;)

I don't like their style, either. But Ramos at least has his own creativity. Herrerra just rips off what was currently hot.

I have the Shiver and Run TPBs...what's Hunger about?
'Hunger' is the story arc from when Jenkins first started on Spectacular Spider-man I think. Its about Eddie having cancer & how the suit is trying to leave eddie & re-join with Spider-man 'cos it's him that its always wanted.
I wont say to much just in case I spoil it like. :)

[The Navigator]

'Hunger' is the story arc from when Jenkins first started on Spectacular Spider-man I think. Its about Eddie having cancer & how the suit is trying to leave eddie & re-join with Spider-man 'cos it's him that its always wanted.
I wont say to much just in case I spoil it like. :)

Oh, that's right. I liked that arc because we finally get a clearer understanding of his motivation.

[Langoth]

"The Hunger" was a terrible storyline that has a big nasty plothole in it due to continuity.

Brock has Cancer, and has had cancer since before he got the symbiote, he needs it to survive. Thing is, Brock has been separeted on and off with the symbiote over the years, thus, this makes no sense, as Eddie would have died a great number of times over based on this

[Venom_uk]

Oh, that's right. I liked that arc because we finally get a clearer understanding of his motivation.
It does clear it up abit yeah. Looks like Millar didn't read it though. At the end of 'hunger' Eddie & the symbiote are perminatly bonded from now on. Oh well :(

[Venom_uk]

"The Hunger" was a terrible storyline that has a big nasty plothole in it due to continuity.

Brock has Cancer, and has had cancer since before he got the symbiote, he needs it to survive. Thing is, Brock has been separeted on and off with the symbiote over the years, thus, this makes no sense, as Eddie would have died a great number of times over based on this
He was never seperated for a great deal of time though from what I can remember. We don't really know how long Eddie was apart from the symbiote in 'hunger' could have been a few months & the cancer would have had time to get a good hold on Eddie maybe...

[The Navigator]

Stupid freakin' Millar...

[Jasmine]

Never read the Hunger. Only Venom arcs I have so far is the one in USM, Venom vs Carnage, his first appearance in ASM and his return. McFarlane's version was not doing it for me but the second time he appeared he looked a little better imo.

[Dr.Dude]

That dubious honor goes to Hererra's Venom, there was also this one guy who did some issues of the 90's Venom title who did this HORRIBLE.... I mean, a really really bad version. I forget who it was, but Venom had these big slanted teeth that looked like a whale's baleen [you know, those things in their mouth they filter plankton through]. Awful awful awful. Heh, it seems like I'm not the only person with horrible memories of Joe St. Pierre's horrendous rendition of Venom.... http://www.superherohype.com/forums/images/smilies/redface1.gif




http://www.spiderfan.org/cgi-bin/cover.pl?80123,venom_along_came,004.jpg

http://www.spiderfan.org/cgi-bin/cover.pl?80123,venom_tooth_claw,003.jpg

http://www.spiderfan.org/cgi-bin/cover.pl?80123,venom_along_came,001.jpg





Aaagh! The horror!

The other thing I hated was how Pierre brought Venom's drool levels to a whole new level---seriously, it was as if his version of Venom had a green Atlantic ocean in his mouth that made a splashing outward tidal-wave every time he opened it. And something about the way he drew Venom's feet... making it look almost as if he was wearing socks that were only pulled on halfway...really bugged the hell out me. http://www.superherohype.com/forums/images/smilies/wink.gif


Not to mention, Pierre is responsible for what I honestly think is about the worst comic book cover ever:



http://www.spiderfan.org/cgi-bin/cover.pl?80123,venom_tooth_claw,002.jpg



...I mean seriously, what the hell was he thinking?

[The Navigator]

"Sand and the Fury" is how Venom should be written. But no...

[The Navigator]

http://www.spiderfan.org/cgi-bin/cover.pl?80123,venom_tooth_claw,002.jpg



what the HELL is this? Who is that?

[Langoth]

He was never seperated for a great deal of time though from what I can remember. We don't really know how long Eddie was apart from the symbiote in 'hunger' could have been a few months & the cancer would have had time to get a good hold on Eddie maybe...

Honestly, the cancer thing was only put there because too many people whined that Venom didn't have good enough reasons to hate Spiderman, peroid.

I think that he would be showing more weakness right away without the symbiote if he had terminal cancer.

Remember, Venom, even without the suit, took on 5 police officers. If he had terminal cancer, not even in the last stages of development, he would not be able to pull off such a feet.

No, I don't buy the cancer excuse at all.

[Venom_uk]

Damn! That is a bad looking Venom. Nasty teeth, I see want you where on about now!

& I agree, that is indeed one very BAD cover right there. For SSSSSOOOOO many reasons! lol :p

[The Navigator]

Honestly, the cancer thing was only put there because too many people whined that Venom didn't have good enough reasons to hate Spiderman, peroid.

I think that he would be showing more weakness right away without the symbiote if he had terminal cancer.

Remember, Venom, even without the suit, took on 5 police officers. If he had terminal cancer, not even in the last stages of development, he would not be able to pull off such a feet.

No, I don't buy the cancer excuse at all.

Eddie inherited spider-strength and spidey's healing abilities from the symbiote. But it only lasts so long without him wearing it, since the symbiote "replenishes" his strength and so forth. Hence, I'm OK with the cancer idea.

[Venom_uk]

Honestly, the cancer thing was only put there because too many people whined that Venom didn't have good enough reasons to hate Spiderman, peroid.

I think that he would be showing more weakness right away without the symbiote if he had terminal cancer.

Remember, Venom, even without the suit, took on 5 police officers. If he had terminal cancer, not even in the last stages of development, he would not be able to pull off such a feet.

No, I don't buy the cancer excuse at all.
Really? When was this like? I must have missed that bit...

[Langoth]

When the Venom symbiote was stolen from him by that crazy senator. You know, the one with the alien disease?

[The Navigator]

That was a stupid Venom arc. He was held at bay with a lighter. Weepin' creepin' Jesus.

[Venom_uk]

When the Venom symbiote was stolen from him by that crazy senator. You know, the one with the alien disease?
Don't think I've read/got that mini. I'm missing quite a few to be honest!

[Langoth]

ITs a terrible story, dont.

Its one of the infamous terrible Venom archs.

But still, I think the cancer thing was lame, people who just didn't care to look over how the destroying of Brock's crediblity would have driven him over the edge whined and whined until Marvel decided to give in and change his backstory.

The cancer idea just doesn't do it for me, it irks me to be honest

[Venom_uk]

That was a stupid Venom arc. He was held at bay with a lighter. Weepin' creepin' Jesus.
You've got to be f*****g joking me?!? :eek: Now THAT takes the piss! :rolleyes:

[The Navigator]

You've got to be f*****g joking me?!? :eek: Now THAT takes the piss! :rolleyes:

Nope. Ben Urich tosses Spidey a lighter and Venom retreats. :mad:

Morons...

[Venom_uk]

Right, don't think I'll bother rushing out & trying to find that particuallar Venom mini then! Thanks guys :up: :)

[The Navigator]

Right, don't think I'll bother rushing out & trying to find that particuallar Venom mini then! Thanks guys :up: :)

I couldn't believe they expected us to believe that. A lighter? Sure, Venom doesn't like fire, but he reached through an inferno to get a bad guy in "Lethal Protector." I don't think a "lighter" is gonna stop him.

See...Sand and the Fury, people. This is Venom.

[Langoth]

One problem with Brock is that every time they try to do something different with him, they screw it up, and he ends up going back to hating Peter and just becomes the hunting down evil guy.

I'm using Venom in a fanfic of mine at the moment, in the X-men actually. Know how I've decided to change him? Brock's tired of all the bull****, and just wants to retire, buy a nice place in Hawaii, and just tell the world to piss off. Sadly, for that he needs money.

He's currently trying to collect the bounty that's on the main character's head :D

[Venom_uk]

One problem with Brock is that every time they try to do something different with him, they screw it up, and he ends up going back to hating Peter and just becomes the hunting down evil guy.

I'm using Venom in a fanfic of mine at the moment, in the X-men actually. Know how I've decided to change him? Brock's tired of all the bull****, and just wants to retire, buy a nice place in Hawaii, and just tell the world to piss off. Sadly, for that he needs money.

He's currently trying to collect the bounty that's on the main character's head :D
Sounds better the selling your symbiote any day :up: :D lol

[The Navigator]

One problem with Brock is that every time they try to do something different with him, they screw it up, and he ends up going back to hating Peter and just becomes the hunting down evil guy.

I'm using Venom in a fanfic of mine at the moment, in the X-men actually. Know how I've decided to change him? Brock's tired of all the bull****, and just wants to retire, buy a nice place in Hawaii, and just tell the world to piss off. Sadly, for that he needs money.

He's currently trying to collect the bounty that's on the main character's head :D

Now, see...THAT's a good idea for Venom. It doesn't change his character, but it also doesn't repeat retreaded story ideas. (At least, from your description)

[The Navigator]

Sounds better the selling your symbiote any day :up: :D lol

Explain to me why he did this again?

[Venom_uk]

Explain to me why he did this again?
He's had enough (of what???) wants to die, so he;s decided to sell the suit off & give all the money to various charitys in New York. *yawns*

[Langoth]

Oh, it gets funnier too.

You see, Brock tends to get frustrated...

Well, you see, the mutant he's trying to bring in for the money, is... well, pretty evenly matched with Eddie.

Brock starts to hate him more and more as the story goes on, because he can never quite get the upper hand.

So, like it always ends up, instead of wanting the money, he just starts wanting him dead, because the entire ordeal starts to eat away at him.

[Venom_uk]

Oh, it gets funnier too.

You see, Brock tends to get frustrated...

Well, you see, the mutant he's trying to bring in for the money, is... well, pretty evenly matched with Eddie.

Brock starts to hate him more and more as the story goes on, because he can never quite get the upper hand.

So, like it always ends up, instead of wanting the money, he just starts wanting him dead, because the entire ordeal starts to eat away at him.
Make sure you post a link to this fan fic of yours when your done dude. Sounds like a good read :up:

[Langoth]

I'll have a link in my signature once I get chapter 4-5 done.

Right now I'm only on Chapter 3, and that's where Brock just enters the fray. (well, he really enters at the end of Chapter 2)

Its more heavily based around the X-men, but they won't be showing up for some time. SO far there has been a cameo from the Green Goblin and Spider-Man thought...

Ahh hell, let me get the link, but just for you guys :D

http://herorealm.infopop.cc/eve/ubb.x?a=tpc&s=5651063&f=8111044&m=6221047541

The first 2 chapters are just setting up the scenario and plot, chapter 3 is going to be action packed (for obvious reason)

[Venom_uk]

I'll have a link in my signature once I get chapter 4-5 done.

Right now I'm only on Chapter 3, and that's where Brock just enters the fray. (well, he really enters at the end of Chapter 2)

Its more heavily based around the X-men, but they won't be showing up for some time. SO far there has been a cameo from the Green Goblin and Spider-Man thought...

Ahh hell, let me get the link, but just for you guys :D

http://herorealm.infopop.cc/eve/ubb.x?a=tpc&s=5651063&f=8111044&m=6221047541

The first 2 chapters are just setting up the scenario and plot, chapter 3 is going to be action packed (for obvious reason)
Cool. Cheers :up:
I'll make sure I read it when I've got some time & when I'm not quite so tired (long weekend! lol)

[Langoth]

I'm working on chapter 3 tonight, that's basically all fighting really... lol

[Venom_uk]

I'm working on chapter 3 tonight, that's basically all fighting really... lol
Sweet. I like fighting. lol Hang on...that makes me soudn abit nuts! lol :p

[Langoth]

Yea.

The main character Mathew Darkholme, doesn't care about innocent bistanders...

Brock will have to catch a lot of cars with the passenger's still inside, put it that way :D

[The Navigator]

He's had enough (of what???) wants to die, so he;s decided to sell the suit off & give all the money to various charitys in New York. *yawns*

Had enough of consistently being in the top 3 in Spidey's villian hierarchy. :rolleyes:

And what did the symbiote have to say about all this?

[Venom_uk]

Had enough of consistently being in the top 3 in Spidey's villian hierarchy. :rolleyes:

And what did the symbiote have to say about all this?
Bugger all so far. Kept himself very quiet...

[The Navigator]

Bugger all so far. Kept himself very quiet...

Two words for ya, Millar. You listening?

STUPID. ASS.

[Venom_uk]

Two words for ya, Millar. You listening?

STUPID. ASS.
LMFAO!!! :D:D:D

Well said Mr Rabbit :up: lol

[Langoth]

BUt you'll find Brock Haters-

Like Dangerous

Going on and on about how great the new Venom is, and how Brock was very smart in his reasoning to get rid of the symbiote.

Sure :rolleyes:

[The Navigator]

Yeah, changing a character is always good, especially with half-assed cliched reasons like that. Give me Bendis, people.

[Venom_uk]

There do seem to be a HELL of a lot of Venom haters about recently. There loss I guess :)

[Langoth]

You'll find that in every case, knock offs have NEVER added up to the original, and I think it will be no different with Venom.

Let's look at Harry Osborn, Jason Macandale, the female Doc Oc who was so insignificant I can't remember her real name.

These are all very forgettably people.

This new Venom is just a flash in the pan.

[Venom_uk]

You'll find that in every case, knock offs have NEVER added up to the original, and I think it will be no different with Venom.

Let's look at Harry Osborn, Jason Macandale, the female Doc Oc who was so insignificant I can't remember her real name.

These are all very forgettably people.

This new Venom is just a flash in the pan.
Yeah I agree, can't see him lasting longer then this one arc.

Oh, one thing that pisses he off about VenomII, is that he refears to himself as 'me' instead of 'us' or 'we'. That aint Venom folks! Nope.

[The Navigator]

Exactly. Harry was a p_ssy. And now he's in SM3. Good one, Raimi. :mad:

[Langoth]

Exactly. Harry was a p_ssy. And now he's in SM3. Good one, Raimi. :mad:

Know who I want to be the main villain in SM3?

Roderick Kingsley. He could fit SO well. He could frame Harry as the Hobgoblin (like he did ned leeds).

Then, while Peter's going after Harry, he could wreak havoc, steal, and take over the crime world.

Kingsley is my favorite SM villain btw.

[The Navigator]

Know who I want to be the main villain in SM3?

Roderick Kingsley. He could fit SO well. He could frame Harry as the Hobgoblin (like he did ned leeds).

Then, while Peter's going after Harry, he could wreak havoc, steal, and take over the crime world.

Kingsley is my favorite SM villain btw.

Now, see....THAT has potential. And it would detract from the "Hobgoblin's a knockoff" crowd. If we had Hobby like in "The Hobgoblin" episode of SM:TAS, that would be cool.

[Langoth]

I fear I may have dragged things off topic of Venom... but who cares?! lol

Really. I think Kingsley is the best fit villain for SM3, there could be so many explanations on how he got the technology and formula (Kinsgley Internation + Industrial Espnongue anyone?)

[The Navigator]

Plus then we wouldn't have another "scientist had hisself an accident" origin.

Personally, though? I want Spidey to get the black costume for SM3. And then go and fight Venom in SM4.

[Venom_uk]

Plus then we wouldn't have another "scientist had hisself an accident" origin.

Personally, though? I want Spidey to get the black costume for SM3. And then go and fight Venom in SM4.
Never gonna happen I'm affraid :(

[Langoth]

No, it'll NEVER happen with Sam in charge.

Its a shame, but its true, and I've come to accept it for some time.

Venom will not have a place in SM for a while.

Brock, I really hope to see in SM3 as a character. I think that would satisfy a lot of Venom fans too.

[The Navigator]

Yes, it would. Too bad Raimi's being a jerk about it. So what if he "doesn't understand his motivation?" Just do what he did with Doc Ock if it's too weird for him. Ah, well...and what's up with Sony? They want to shut down a franchise that put them past 1 billion?! Are they nuts?

[Venom_uk]

Yeah, makes no sense what so ever to me either! :confused:

[The Navigator]

I would understand if they had switched directors and it became a "Batman and Robin" thing...but this is a healthy, wealthy cash cow. Milk this sucker!! Plus, we have 40 YEARS oif material to pour thru. It's not like we're gonna run out of story anytime soon.

[Venom_uk]

I would understand if they had switched directors and it became a "Batman and Robin" thing...but this is a healthy, wealthy cash cow. Milk this sucker!! Plus, we have 40 YEARS oif material to pour thru. It's not like we're gonna run out of story anytime soon.
Exactly. Not like there gonna run outta ideas or inspiration or anything is it? Fools. :p

[Langoth]

The director just doesn't like non classics, which is retarded. very retarded.

[The Navigator]

The director just doesn't like non classics, which is retarded. very retarded.

But see, he's limiting what he can do then and he's also cutting away from the more recent fans. It's stupid to cut yourself off at the kneecaps because you don't like a certain era. Just write it well, and everything else takes care of itself.

[The Navigator]

Exactly. Not like there gonna run outta ideas or inspiration or anything is it? Fools. :p

"Haven't we already SEEN him swinging in the FIRST Spider-Man?"
-"Good point. Let's pull the plug."

I swear this must have been how the conversation went down.

[Langoth]

But see, he's limiting what he can do then and he's also cutting away from the more recent fans. It's stupid to cut yourself off at the kneecaps because you don't like a certain era. Just write it well, and everything else takes care of itself.

Know what else? Venom and Hobby are almost 20 years old now.

Heres something that makes no sense to me, would they not be classic now as well? And also, there hasn't been an influx of decent villains since the 80's, him not using the 80's villains is like me not using water to boil something.

[Venom_uk]

Venom & Hobby are deffinatly 'classic' villains IMO. Sone of the more recent villains will never reach that status, ever!

[The Navigator]

Know what else? Venom and Hobby are almost 20 years old now.

Heres something that makes no sense to me, would they not be classic now as well? And also, there hasn't been an influx of decent villains since the 80's, him not using the 80's villains is like me not using water to boil something.

Agreed. These are not new kids on the block by any stretch of the imagination. Plus, in their better stories they're amazing. (Granted, in their worse, they're terrible, but that's true for everybody. DOc Ock almost married Aunt May way back. Eesh.)

[The Navigator]

Venom & Hobby are deffinatly 'classic' villains IMO. Sone of the more recent villains will never reach that status, ever!

Like Carnage. LAME.

[Langoth]

Hobgoblin is better then Green Goblin in my opinion.

Venom is better then half of the original cast in my opinion.

I think the greatest Spiderman villains go in this order-

Doc Oc (even though I'm not much of a personal fan)
Venom
HG
GG

Why did I put the GG in the last place? He's become redundent and lame, that's why.

[The Navigator]

Hobgoblin is better then Green Goblin in my opinion.

Venom is better then half of the original cast in my opinion.

I think the greatest Spiderman villains go in this order-

Doc Oc (even though I'm not much of a personal fan)
Venom
HG
GG

Why did I put the GG in the last place? He's become redundent and lame, that's why.

Plus Norman needs to be humiliated. Spider-Man should pie him in the face sometime.

[Venom_uk]

Like Carnage. LAME.
I kinda like Carnage, he's still not as good as Venom though :D
Original & the best IMO :up:

[The Navigator]

What was the big creative innovation with Carnage anyway?

[Langoth]

Venom is one of Spidey's greatest Villains for multiple reasons. Powers are definetaly one of them, but also the fact he's been able to screw with his mind. Though I must admit he's become blander over the years, but that's due to poor story archs and over exposure.

The Hobgoblin is probably the most tactically sound villain Spider-man has ever face. It took 14 years for them to unmask for he REALLY was. He duped Parker for 14 years, I don't care HOW good you are, that's impressive

Oc for obvious reasons.

Green Goblin has just become boring... as EVERYTHING is his fault now.

I would be surprised if he was now linked to Parker getting the symbiote in Secret Wars, JUST for the reason of them using him for an excuse for everything.

[The Navigator]

Venom is one of Spidey's greatest Villains for multiple reasons. Powers are definetaly one of them, but also the fact he's been able to screw with his mind. Though I must admit he's become blander over the years, but that's due to poor story archs and over exposure.

The Hobgoblin is probably the most tactically sound villain Spider-man has ever face. It took 14 years for them to unmask for he REALLY was. He duped Parker for 14 years, I don't care HOW good you are, that's impressive

Oc for obvious reasons.

Green Goblin has just become boring... as EVERYTHING is his fault now.

I would be surprised if he was now linked to Parker getting the symbiote in Secret Wars, JUST for the reason of them using him for an excuse for everything.

I can hear Norman now:

"Oh, and Peter? Remember that burglar who killed your Uncle Ben? That was me. And the spider who bit you? That was me. I actually gave birth to you, Peter. Who's your Daddy now?"

:rolleyes:

[Jasmine]

Why don't you like Carnage Rabbit just curious? I am probably going to get flamed for this but I like Green Goblin, but I admit that he is being used an awful lot lately, it would not hurt to give him a break. I am really enjoying Venom in V vs C, and I enjoyed his appearance in issue 300 of ASM. Only issue of Hobgoblin that I have is in ASM #312 which was very good. Suck when you are behind.

[The Navigator]

Why don't you like Carnage Rabbit just curious? I am probably going to get flamed for this but I like Green Goblin, but I admit that he is being used an awful lot lately, it would not hurt to give him a break. I am really enjoying Venom in V vs C, and I enjoyed his appearance in issue 300 of ASM. Only issue of Hobgoblin that I have is in ASM #312 which was very good. Suck when you are behind.

GREEN GOBLIN?! YOU!!!!! Nah, just kidding. ;)

I just thought Carnage was neither an original nor malleable villian. He's limited as to the kinds of stories you can tell with him, and he comes across like the bas**** son of Venom and Joker.

I saw ASM374 in my comic book store the other day. :eek: Would've bought it if they'd have 375...:(

[Jasmine]

Is Venom the villian in that one?

[The Navigator]

Is Venom the villian in that one?

Yup. Kidnaps Peter's parents. Supposed to have the best Spidey/Venom fight scenes, but I wouldn't know.

[Venom_uk]

Yup. Kidnaps Peter's parents. Supposed to have the best Spidey/Venom fight scenes, but I wouldn't know.
I have them both :D lol :p

[Jasmine]

Yup. Kidnaps Peter's parents. Supposed to have the best Spidey/Venom fight scenes, but I wouldn't know.

Thought his parents were killed by Red Skull!!? :confused:

[Jasmine]

I have them both :D lol :p

How is it UK?

[Langoth]

Aren't Peter's parents dead ???

[The Navigator]

These are robots created by the Chameleon and Vulture. :confused:

Made for good drama, though.

[Venom_uk]

Thought his parents were killed by Red Skull!!? :confused:
They where, his 'parents' in this are robots, all thanks to the Green Goblin once again. lol :rolleyes:

It's a damn good story actually, well worth getting it if you can.

[Jasmine]

These are robots created by the Chameleon and Vulture. :confused:

Made for good drama, though.

Ah I see. If I remember his parents were killed in a plane crash, the engine got messed with I believe.

[Langoth]

Hey guys, honestly, if Brock really is without the symbiote how long do you give him before he comes back in the saddle as Venom?

I am worried because it took Roddy 8-10 years to get back in the saddle for the HG.

[Jasmine]

They where, his 'parents' in this are robots, all thanks to the Green Goblin once again. lol :rolleyes:

It's a damn good story actually, well worth getting it if you can.

GG was in that one? Hopefully it will come out in TPB like they did with McFarlane thats how I was able to get Venom's first two arcs.

[The Navigator]

Did we even know Roddy existed at that point, though?

I wouldn't worry about this new Venom, though. They'll get rid of him quick.

[Venom_uk]

Hey guys, honestly, if Brock really is without the symbiote how long do you give him before he comes back in the saddle as Venom?

I am worried because it took Roddy 8-10 years to get back in the saddle for the HG.
Hopefully not to long, I woldn't like to put a time sclae on it to be honest. I'd rather him be gone for 5 or so years & come back with a kick ass story then after 5 months & a weak crappy one to be honest.

[The Navigator]

Hopefully not to long, I woldn't like to put a time sclae on it to be honest. I'd rather him be gone for 5 or so years & come back with a kick ass story then after 5 months & a weak crappy one to be honest.

This is true.

[Jasmine]

Hey guys, honestly, if Brock really is without the symbiote how long do you give him before he comes back in the saddle as Venom?

I am worried because it took Roddy 8-10 years to get back in the saddle for the HG.

Honestly have no idea. Is Hobgoblin still around forgive my ignorance.

[Venom_uk]

GG was in that one? Hopefully it will come out in TPB like they did with McFarlane thats how I was able to get Venom's first two arcs.
No GG wasn't in this story as such, but he was revealed later on to be the one behind the robotic parents thing.

[Langoth]

Did we even know Roddy existed at that point, though?

I wouldn't worry about this new Venom, though. They'll get rid of him quick.

I dunno man... I'm starting to get ascared :(

Somebody hold me!

*puts arms out to be hugged by someone*

[The Navigator]

I dunno man... I'm starting to get ascared :(

Somebody hold me!

*puts arms out to be hugged by someone*

*coldly stands back, not returning the gesture*

Be a man about it. And go subscribe to Ultimate Spider-Man.
;)

[Langoth]

Honestly have no idea. Is Hobgoblin still around forgive my ignorance.

Kingsley is NOT currently around, but he's alive and well on a island paradise, sipping some alcohol and having a good time.

[Jasmine]

No GG wasn't in this story as such, but he was revealed later on to be the one behind the robotic parents thing.

Sounds good. I'll keep an eye out for it.

[The Navigator]

Kingsley...pimpin' it out on the island resort!

[Jasmine]

Kingsley is NOT currently around, but he's alive and well on a island paradise, sipping some alcohol and having a good time.

Thanks for clearing that up.

[Venom_uk]

Sounds good. I'll keep an eye out for it.
Yeah I would if I was you. Well worth the look :up:

[The Navigator]

Where can I even find it? Comic book store doesn't carry that TPB (if it was ever released as one...)

[Venom_uk]

Where can I even find it? Comic book store doesn't carry that TPB (if it was ever released as one...)
I've never seen it in a TPB either unfortunatly, I got mine from here...
www.silveracrecomics.co.uk (http://www.silveracrecomics.co.uk)
They have a HUGE back catalogue of comics.

[The Navigator]

I've never seen it in a TPB either unfortunatly, I got mine from here...
www.silveracrecomics.co.uk (http://www.silveracrecomics.co.uk)
They have a HUGE back catalogue of comics.

See, they should just do a "Best of Venom" collection for all us fans. Includes all 3 MacFarlane arcs, 374-375, vs. Carnage, Ultimate....great stocking stuffer.

[Jasmine]

They need to do that with all the issues in ASM imo.

[The Navigator]

Like how they're doing it with Ultimate. So far all we have is "Essential", but that's B&W. :mad:

[Langoth]

Who do you guys think would be the best author to handle Brock btw?

[The Navigator]

...........Micheline. Since he created him, I think he has the best handle on his character.

[Jasmine]

I'd be for Micheine returning to do him.

[The Navigator]

That or....someone. Let's have Stan Lee write Venom.

[Langoth]

I don't think Stan "The man" Lee writes many comics anymore, does he?

[Jasmine]

Do not think this has been posted here.

http://www.spiderfan.org/cgi-bin/cover.pl?80123,venom_carnage,001.jpg

[The Navigator]

I don't think Stan "The man" Lee writes many comics anymore, does he?

No, and I was kidding. Good GOD....the thought...

[Langoth]

Now that I think on it... the last really good Venom series I read, and I mean really good, and very true to the original character, was when he fought the Scarlet Spider...

[The Navigator]

Really? Because I thought it was lame that Ben Reilly was able to take on the V-man but Peter wasn't. :mad:

[Langoth]

Oh I agree that part was lame, but I mean the way Brock acted, he was really true to what Venom is supposed to be.

Ben beating him kinda sucked, but I think the story was still very good.

I wish it had been Peter, but I'm not so touchy about the clone saga, Reilly is dead now, but I will give credit where credit is due, I really liked that arch.

[The Navigator]

Oh, I see what you're saying. Good stuff, there.

[Langoth]

My favorite Venom arch is obviously when he was first brought in...

How about you guys, what's your favorite Venom Story?

[Jasmine]

It would have to be the one in USM. Eddie was written well and the story was so good. Second favorite would have to be in ASM #300.

[The Navigator]

Favorite would be MacFarlane's 2nd Venom arc (the one where he beats up BC, then beats up Spidey in the meat-processing plant, then beats up Spidey again at Montaulk Bay). Second fav would be USM.

[Jasmine]

That one was also good.

[Symbiotica]

Who do you guys think would be the best author to handle Brock btw?

Well you know, I would have said Millar, but look what he's doing :(

I would like for Quesada to leave so we can get Geof Johns [the guy currently writing "The Flash"] back at Marvel; I would like to see him work on this problem. Johns writes good villains. Ed Brubaker? I'd read that for sure.

To be honest, I would like to see some better talent on these books in general, writing-wise. From what I hear everyone writing an X-book is a loon....don't want any of them. I wish more mainstream authors could be tempted to do an arc or two. Can you imagine if someone like Thomas Harris did an arc? I am dreaming!

I would be interested in what Michelinie had to say about Brock these days as well. TOO MANY PEOPLE have their hands in the pot, so to speak. We need to strip Brock down, take him back to what makes him cool, refine his motivations.

[The Navigator]

Well you know, I would have said Millar, but look what he's doing :(

I would like for Quesada to leave so we can get Geof Johns [the guy currently writing "The Flash"] back at Marvel; I would like to see him work on this problem. Johns writes good villains. Ed Brubaker? I'd read that for sure.

To be honest, I would like to see some better talent on these books in general, writing-wise. From what I hear everyone writing an X-book is a loon....don't want any of them. I wish more mainstream authors could be tempted to do an arc or two. Can you imagine if someone like Thomas Harris did an arc? I am dreaming!

I would be interested in what Michelinie had to say about Brock these days as well. TOO MANY PEOPLE have their hands in the pot, so to speak. We need to strip Brock down, take him back to what makes him cool, refine his motivations.

Back to the fundamentals. It bugged the hell out of me in SM1 when Goblin stole Venom's line....:mad:

[Langoth]

What I do find interesting is that Wolverine will soon go the way of Venom.

Overexposure does that to a comic book character.

[Venom_uk]

My favorite Venom arch is obviously when he was first brought in...

How about you guys, what's your favorite Venom Story?
My fav is his debut story also. His second apperance from McFarlane is a good story also. Black Cat gets OWNED! :p lol

[Langoth]

Well... I finished chapter 3, the entire chapter is basically an ass kicking contest with Brock and Darkholme.

Just to let you know, since I haven't fully explained Mathew's list of abilities yet-

He can press 10 tons
He has wings and a tail
Hyper sensitive hearing
Enhanced speed
Evolution and Adaption- This is a complicated ability, just consider it on the lines of, whatever doesn't kill him, makes him stronger, faster, and smarter. He also adapts to situations more quickly.

[Shockdingo]

I've recently been thinking about how people downplay Brock's motivation "get a new job" they say. Well I was walking when this came to me.
In Leathal Protector we get an insight of Brock's family life. Ed's mom died in childbirth and since then no matter how great he did in school- nothing from his dad. Doing great on his sports teams-nothing from dad. I don't remember it well but I even think that's why he got into body building. Anyway I recall something like during the Sin Eater even/thing his father was finally begining to be proud of him....till it flopped. Think about it. Brock didn't just lose his job. He lost complete credibility( Hi name's Brock...I'd like to apply for this job...yea I worked at the Globe....hello? Hello?" <---no job in his line of work ever again. AND most importantly he now is permanently distanced from his dad; not only does this look bad for the family but it's also like "You know what....you've never been good enough, but just as you were getting so close to being worth something son....you blew it all with this story. Get out of my sight" So it's not just his job....he's lost everything. That's just my input...anyone agree/disagree want to say anything?

[Langoth]

He also lost ANY chance of getting back with his wife Dais, and with no job, he'd quickly find money tight as well.

No, its not just about his job.

[The Navigator]

Somebody should make a movie manip for Spidey 3 or 4 using the images here...
http://www.samruby.com/WebB/Large/Web096.JPG

Any takers?

[The Navigator]

And I like the idea of this one as a movie poster. Flipped image homage:

http://ewancient.lysator.liu.se/pic/fanq/f/e/ferre3/venom.jpg

But it's fan artwork, so try to contact the person if you're gonna manip this.

[Shockdingo]

Dude awesome pic

[White_Howling]

Back to the fundamentals. It bugged the hell out of me in SM1 when Goblin stole Venom's line....:mad:


what was the line? i forgot

[The Navigator]

Damn...so did I. I'll post it when I remember. :mad:

[The Navigator]

Oh, yeah..."Can Spider-Man come out to play?"

Freakin'...:mad:

[The Navigator]

OK, if abyone can find (or just make) a really comprehensive history of Eddie Brock before he got the symbiote, preferably as far back as childhood, hy his wife left him, schooling, etc. please PM it to me or post it here. I'm going to write a fanfic that will, hopefully, restore the dignity to Venom instead of this impostor. Thanks.

[Shockdingo]

Sure I'll try to help, I'm a bit busy at the moment but I'll try whatever I can

[Dangerous]

Hey Venomites! whats happening -still steamed about the new Venom huh?,

OK, if abyone can find (or just make) a really comprehensive history of Eddie Brock before he got the symbiote, preferably as far back as childhood, hy his wife left him, schooling, etc. please PM it to me or post it here. I'm going to write a fanfic that will, hopefully, restore the dignity to Venom instead of this impostor. Thanks.

I don't think your writing a comprehensive profile on Brock can restore Venom's dignity, sorry, atleast not the dignity of being as evil as he was in the begining.
Also the new guy ain't an imposter he's just the new guy.
David Michelinie intended for the symbiote to move host fairly regularly after its initial move in ASM#400 that never happened.

[Venom_uk]

OK, if abyone can find (or just make) a really comprehensive history of Eddie Brock before he got the symbiote, preferably as far back as childhood, hy his wife left him, schooling, etc. please PM it to me or post it here. I'm going to write a fanfic that will, hopefully, restore the dignity to Venom instead of this impostor. Thanks.
Got any questions, just ask. I'll help out where ever I can matey :):up:

[venom892]

OK, if abyone can find (or just make) a really comprehensive history of Eddie Brock before he got the symbiote, preferably as far back as childhood, hy his wife left him, schooling, etc. please PM it to me or post it here. I'm going to write a fanfic that will, hopefully, restore the dignity to Venom instead of this impostor. Thanks.Well I could take a pic of The Venom bio in my Spider-man Encyclopedia.Would that help?

[The Navigator]

If it's big enough so I can read it, then yes. Thanks! :up:

[Shockdingo]

I could dig up some old issues too

[The Navigator]

Good, good. Anything to help.

[The Navigator]

Hey Venomites! whats happening -still steamed about the new Venom huh?,



I don't think your writing a comprehensive profile on Brock can restore Venom's dignity, sorry, atleast not the dignity of being as evil as he was in the begining.
Also the new guy ain't an imposter he's just the new guy.
David Michelinie intended for the symbiote to move host fairly regularly after its initial move in ASM#400 that never happened.

It's not a comprehensive profile. It's more like "Spider-Man: Blue," a remembrance of when Venom was cool and not...crappy-looking.

And the "new guy" isn't Venom, as far as I'm concerned.

[Symbiotica]

Personally, I don't give a damn what Michelinie -intended- to do with the symbiote back in '89 or whatever. That does not change what actually ended up happening, and it doesn't have a thing to do with Wannabe now.

Or you could call him an imposter.... either way works.

Enjoy The Great Pretender while you got him - smart money says he won't be around long.

I think the fact that fans are resistant to Wannabe has some people kinda bugged, if you'll excuse the pun. You can lead a horse to water, but you can't make it drink. You can lead Venom fans to New! Improved! Venom, but you cannot make them accept him. Anyone remember the New Coke debacle...? :gg:

[The Navigator]

I suspect Venom "Juan" Imposter-boy over there will be endorsed by Bill Cosby before long. But I'm getting off-topic. We were talking about Venom as Eddie Brock. (Hence the clubhouse name) Go discuss Miguelito in his own damn thread, if he has one.

Anyways...any info on Venom's early days would be helpful (preferably as detailed as possible, and preferrably leading back to his childhood). Thanks, and sorry for the interruption.

[Jasmine]

MK #8 comes out the 10th so next week you guys will get your answer as to whether this new Venom will stick around.

[The Navigator]

Let's hope not. :disgust:

[Venom_uk]

Wow, cool. This place is busy tonight. :D:up:

Yes, like Rabbit said, this is EDDIE BROCK'S club house so lets gimp that little imposter gimp outta here please folks. Cheers :):up:

Anyway, heres the Venom we all know & love...
http://usuarios.lycos.es/nests/IMAGENES/venom-fla.jpg

VENOM 4 PRES!!! :D

[The Navigator]

Wow, cool. This place is busy tonight. :D:up:

Yes, like Rabbit said, this is EDDIE BROCK'S club house so lets gimp that little imposter gimp outta here please folks. Cheers :):up:

Anyway, heres the Venom we all know & love...
http://usuarios.lycos.es/nests/IMAGENES/venom-fla.jpg

VENOM 4 PRES!!! :D

"My opponent says he wants to lower taxes. Well, I want to EAT YOUR BRAINS!!!"
-"....you sure that's the rebuttal you want to go with?"
"What's wrong with it?"

:D

[Venom_uk]

"My opponent says he wants to lower taxes. Well, I want to EAT YOUR BRAINS!!!"
-"....you sure that's the rebuttal you want to go with?"
"What's wrong with it?"

:D
Heck, he'd get my vote. :up: :D

[The Navigator]

Heck, he'd get my vote. :up: :D

More photogenic than the current candidates, but that's another subject I don't want to diverge into. Anyway....

BACKGROUND, PEOPLE!!! ;)

No, take your time if need be, no rush.

[Venom_uk]

More photogenic than the current candidates, but that's another subject I don't want to diverge into. Anyway....

BACKGROUND, PEOPLE!!! ;)

No, take your time if need be, no rush.
I'll get something good for you tomorrow Rabbit. I promise :):up:

In the mean time...check this out...
http://www.spiderfan.org/characters/venom.html

[The Navigator]

I'll get something good for you tomorrow Rabbit. I promise :):up:

In the mean time...check this out...
http://www.spiderfan.org/characters/venom.html

Helpful, but not as detailed as I'd hoped. ;)

Thanks, V_UK.

[Venom_uk]

Helpful, but not as detailed as I'd hoped. ;)

Thanks, V_UK.
No problem dude. :):up: Glad to help.

[Venom_uk]

Like I said yesterday Rabbit, heres that 'something good' for you I promised...

Venom Bio from the “Spider-man Encyclopedia” PART 1

Real Name:
Edward Charles Brock

First Appearance:
Amazing Spider-man #299 (1988)

Height:
6’3”
Weight:
260lbs
Eye Colour:
Blue
Hair Colour:
Reddish-Blond

Devout Catholic Eddie Brock entered what he thought was an empty church seeking absolution from God for his forthcoming mortal sin: suicide. Before arriving at this desperate point in life, Eddie had been a successful columnist for the Daily Globe. When a man approached him & confessed to the killings committed by the ‘Sin-eater’, Eddie knew he had a career-defining story on his hands. Protecting the killer’s identity under his Constitutional right to do so, Eddie wrote a series of articles detailing their dialogues.

Eddie’s articles were a hit, & the climax of his exclusive story sold out immediately. But after its publication, Spider-man identified the true killer; the man who had confessed to Eddie was revealed to be a fraud. Fired from his job, disowned by his father & deserted by his wife, Eddie was forced to scratch a living writing venomous stories for scandal sheets. Blaming Spider-man for his ruin, Eddie focused on developing his physique & fixated on his hatred for the wall-crawler. But he found solace in neither. Only one, final option beckoned.

Just before Eddie entered the peaceful Our Lady of Saints Church to beg God’s forgiveness for his planned suicide, Spider-man had rid himself of the parasitic alien Symbiote that had masqueraded as his black costume by subjecting them both to the overwhelming sound of the church’s bells. Amid the pealing, ear-splitting cacophony, the Symbiote realized Spider-man would never act as its host. Perhaps having learned a measure or human empathy during its time with Peter Parker, the Symbiote saved Spider-man from painful death by dragging him to safety. The wall-crawler staggered away, assuming the parasite had crawled off to die. Instead, the weak & dying creature entered the church proper – where it eventually encountered the broken, despairing Eddie. With nothing left to lose, Eddie gave himself over. What emerged from the terrible union of lost souls was something else. Something evil. Something unstoppable. Venom. & any humanity the creature had learned from Spider-man was overwhelmed in the torment of loathing that drove Eddie. Now possessing the power to destroy Spider-man, the twin minds were united in a single purpose.

Imparting to Eddie the knowledge of Spider-man’s identity, the alien could also neutralise Peter’s spider-sense – which left the web-slinger vulnerable to Venom’s attack. Stalking Spider-man from a distance, Venom threatened his life undetected – pushing Peter into the path of a subway train. Venom then approached Mary Jane Watson, terrifying her so much that Peter subsequently abandoned his black costume. The message to Peter was clear. After arming himself with a sonic blaster courtesy of the Fantastic Four, Spider-man immediately tracked down Venom. But the bond between Eddie & the Symbiote was nearly perfect, & Spider-man could not defeat the alien without killing its host in the process – something the hero was not prepared to do. With Venom seemingly in command, the webslinger eventually managed to trick his adversary into expelling so much organic webbing that he became physically weakened. Defeating his foe, Spider-man had him imprisoned in the Vault, a high-security holding facility for Super-villains.

Part 2 coming tomorrow...

[The Navigator]

Thankee-sai. I'm drooling (no pun intended) with anticipation already.
:up:

[Venom_uk]

Thankee-sai. I'm drooling (no pun intended) with anticipation already.
:up:
LOL :D :up: No problem dude. I would have typed the whole thing out in one go but my eyes where starting to go funny! lol
Hope that helps you out abit anyway. :)

[Venom Drool]

i have that issue...yayayayayayayaya!! :D :D :D

[The Navigator]

I do too....as part of a TPB. :D

[Venom Drool]

Oh, yeah..."Can Spider-Man come out to play?"

Freakin'...:mad:
guess what goblin stole that line in a certain movie :mad:

[The Navigator]

Exactly. Made me mad. :mad: :hulk:

[Venom_uk]

I do too....as part of a TPB. :D
Same here :D:up: lol

[Venom Drool]

imagine Venom sayin that...wow...woulda been nice...damn Raimi :mad:

[Venom_uk]

imagine Venom sayin that...wow...woulda been nice...damn Raimi :mad:
*imagines...*

Oh yeah...that would be SWEET!!! :):up:

Plenty more for Venom to use though.

[The Navigator]

*imagines...*

Oh yeah...that would be SWEET!!! :):up:

Plenty more for Venom to use though.

Like "Tell me where he is. NOW! While you still have a face..."

I bet they could actually use that line, too, especially after the "peel her flesh off her bones" one in SM2.

[Venom_uk]

Like "Tell me where he is. NOW! While you still have a face..."

I bet they could actually use that line, too, especially after the "peel her flesh off her bones" one in SM2.
Yes, exactly.

I love that line, classic :D:up: LOL

[The Navigator]

I wish Venom was more quotable....but he'll be doing a lot of quoting in my "Year One" fanfic. ;)

[Venom_uk]

I wish Venom was more quotable....but he'll be doing a lot of quoting in my "Year One" fanfic. ;)
Doc Ock asked me about famous Venom quotes a while back & I had trouble coming up with any big stand out ones to be honest. He just dosn't have that many cool one-liners as some other Villains for some reason! :(

[The Navigator]

I don't understand it....the guy has the combined knowledge of two people, and he can't come up with many catchphrases.

Although I like this one:

Spider-Man: "I'm through having you go through people to get to me! This ends NOW!"
(punches at Venom, Venom grabs his hand)
Venom: "Hey, when you're right, you're right!"
(proceeds to beat the snot out of Spider-Man)

:D

From ASM 374. I wish I had 375.

[Venom_uk]

I don't understand it....the guy has the combined knowledge of two people, and he can't come up with many catchphrases.

Although I like this one:

Spider-Man: "I'm through having you go through people to get to me! This ends NOW!"
(punches at Venom, Venom grabs his hand)
Venom: "Hey, when you're right, you're right!"
(proceeds to beat the snot out of Spider-Man)

:D

From ASM 374. I wish I had 375.
Cool. Don't think I've read them issues...nope, I'm missing them from my collection :( lol

Alot of the time when you do find a good Venom quote, it loses it's impact put in plain text. You really need to the the artwork that goes with it to get the full impact of it most of the time I think.

[The Navigator]

Probably. I like how he's apparently inherited Spider-Man's sense of humor, though....rather unique trait in SM villians.

[Venom_uk]

Probably. I like how he's apparently inherited Spider-Man's sense of humor, though....rather unique trait in SM villians.
Yeah, Venom's almost as big a smart mouth as Spidey is! lol

"He's going to die! Happy, happy, happy!!!"

*Venom skips along*

[The Navigator]

Yeah, Venom's almost as big a smart mouth as Spidey is! lol

"He's going to die! Happy, happy, happy!!!"

*Venom skips along*

That was fun. :D

"Well, well...what....(crushes spider-tracer)....HAD we here?"

[Shockdingo]

Also my favorite quotable was his infamous(well to me) Venom man song(parody of SPiderman 60's song)

[The Navigator]

How did that go? I've never heard it.

[Venom_uk]

OK Rabbit, heres Part 2 of the Venom Bio I promised you, enjoy :) ...

Using the Symbiote at act as a fallen prison officer, Eddie escaped from captivity. He was recaptured when Spider-man persuaded the Symbiote to leave Venom & return to him. Eddie again managed to gain freedom, this time by using the Symbiote to appear as a cold layer of skin that convinced authorities he had killed himself – but Styx’s plague virus rendered the Symbiote comatose. Without his alien other half, Eddie was placed in a conventional prison, from which he was later rescued by the revived Symbiote. During the escape, the Symbiote left behind the spawn that would transform Eddie’s psychopathic cellmate, Cletus Kasady, into the deadly Carnage. Following that escape, Spider-man & Venom wound up on a deserted island. The wall-crawler faked his own death, leaving Eddie with little reason to return to civilization. But Peter was forced to return to Venom after Carnage embarked on a bloody rampage, asking him to help bring his offspring to justice. Unexpectedly, Venom was willing to do so. For all his bloodthirsty hatred of Spider-man, Eddie bears no grudge against society in general. To the contrary, Venom sees himself as a lethal protector of the innocent. Their collaboration helped defeat Carnage, but Spider-man reluctantly went back on his word & helped the Fantastic Four capture Venom.

Venom has taken extreme steps to protect those he saw as blameless & equally violent measures to punish those he viewed as evil – first & foremost, Carnage. When Venom’s spawn gathered a ragtag army of criminally insane beings to spread his message of chaos & hostility, Venom sided with Spider-man against the evils of Carnage, Shriek, Doppelganger & Carrion. While at times Venom & Spider-man accept each other as necessary evils & join forces to fight clear & present danger, Venom’s deadly instincts began over time to dominate his desire to protect the innocent. Seeing potential in this deadly demon, the government attempted to employ Venom to intimidate J. Jonah Jameson, whose editorials spoke out against sensitive policy. When it became clear that for Venom there existed no line between intimidation & murder, only Spider-man’s intervention saved the publisher form death. Abandoned by the government & suffering partial amnesia after nearly dying in an explosion blast, Eddie appeared to have forgotten Spider-man’s true identity & lost his grip on the last threads of his sanity. Even after Venom joined the Sinister Six, he rapidly turned against his teammates – nearly killing the Sandman & Electro. In his unhinged state, Venom made peace with Spider-man, Eddie attempted to return to his wife, Ann Weying. But Ann committed suicide rather then face life rather then face life with the Symbiote, leaving Eddie to once again blame Spider-man for his loss in life. With his mind & life in tatters, Venom was abducted by Senator Stewart Ward. Who forcibly separated Eddie from his Symbiote so he could perform research on the entity to help him better understand his own alien infection.

Though reunited with his Symbiote once more, it seems Brock’s increasingly damaged mind has left the bloodthirsty alien in control. Even more terrifying, fragments & offshoots of the creature have begun appearing, including one that surfaced somewhere near the Arctic Circle in North Canada. Almost certainly, these spawn will seek hosts to pursue their own inscrutable yet doubtless violent ends.

[The Navigator]

Excellent work. :up:

So Ann's his ex's name?

[Venom_uk]

Yep, it is indeed. According to the 'Spider-man Encyclopedia' anyway. lol

There is more there that they that havn't covered, the countless terrible Venom mini's & the Spectacular Spider-man 'the hunger' story. But I think you know about that anyway...

[The Navigator]

Of course....

I'm debating whether or not to post the fanfic in a separate, "by itself" thread or just have it here.

[Venom_uk]

Of course....

I'm debating whether or not to post the fanfic in a separate, "by itself" thread or just have it here.
Why not both? :)

[The Navigator]

Because I'm scared to go outside with all the political flaming.....:eek: ;)

[Venom_uk]

Because I'm scared to go outside with all the political flaming.....:eek: ;)
good point. Its probably safer to put it in here :):up: LOL

[The Navigator]

:D

At least here, I'll have fans for sure....:rolleyes: ;)

[Venom_uk]

Yep. Where all Venomites in here :D:venom::up:

[The Navigator]

Thankfully. :phew:

I should have part of it up in the next two days or so. I'm not sure how long it's going to be.

[fever red]

I'm slavering with anticipation...

[The Navigator]

Seriously? Cool. :up:

I think you guys will like it. Think Spider-Man: Blue, but with Venom and much cooler.

Venom: Black. Yeah, I like that better than "Year One" anyway.

[fever red]

There's far too little fanfiction on Venom (and Carnage).

[The Navigator]

Damn straight.

[Symbiotica]

.... I'm trying, I'm trying! I have just basic ideas for plots right now, because every 5 minutes its either some awful test or some busywork assignment, which they pass out as if we're People of Leisure, and not struggling madly to keep up w/curriculum.

I have Brock/Patricia fan-art blocked out, haven't had time to touch it since. I will be working off the underwater scene in "Twist" and hopefully this will be both beautiful and interesting. [crosses fingers]

Looking forward to semester break!

[CKayote]

Looking forward to seeing it!

[fever red]

I've always thought underwater was the place for symbiotes- with the ability to be so streamlined and to push in any direction from any point on the form; it seems as if it may be their natural environment. Imagine wearing a symbiotic suit into the ocean, outswimming sharks, out-leaping dolphins, dining on sushi...mmmm...fish brains.
Also, the sex scene in the pool for Species brought symbiotes to mind.

[Venom_uk]

Seriously? Cool. :up:

I think you guys will like it. Think Spider-Man: Blue, but with Venom and much cooler.

Venom: Black. Yeah, I like that better than "Year One" anyway.
Cool, look forward to reading it dude. :up:
Venom: Black does sound better the 'year one' yeah your right. Or how about Venom: Black & Blue? :p
.... I'm trying, I'm trying! I have just basic ideas for plots right now, because every 5 minutes its either some awful test or some busywork assignment, which they pass out as if we're People of Leisure, and not struggling madly to keep up w/curriculum.

I have Brock/Patricia fan-art blocked out, haven't had time to touch it since. I will be working off the underwater scene in "Twist" and hopefully this will be both beautiful and interesting. [crosses fingers]

Looking forward to semester break!
Cool, can't wait to see this nemo. If its anything like the one you did of Carnage & Shriek, I'm sure it'll be excellent :up:

[The Navigator]

Venom black and blue? He's not gonna get beat up, V_UK. Good news.....definately have the first part written, probably will have it up tomorrow morning.

[Venom_uk]

Good point Rabbit :up: Scratch Venom: Black & Blue then! lol

Look forward to reading that tomorrow then Rabbit :D:up:

[Shockdingo]

It went "Venom man! Venom man! Friendly symbiote Venom man! Spins a web, any size! Catches Theives and makes them die! Watch out! Yeah here comes the Venom man"

[Venom_uk]

It went "Venom man! Venom man! Friendly symbiote Venom man! Spins a web, any size! Catches Theives and makes them die! Watch out! Yeah here comes the Venom man"
LMFAO!!! oh thats good...thats going into my sig :D:D:D:up:

What issues that from btw?

[Shockdingo]

Sign of the Boss # 1 page 1-2 had ghost rider show up

[Venom_uk]

Thanks, might have to give that a look now then. Even its its just to see that line! :D

[The Navigator]

They actually sang that in the book? That's awesome. :D:up:

[Venom_uk]

ATTENTION ALL MY FELLOW VENOMITES IN THE U.K...

It's finally here people! Yes that right, from next monday, you could own this must have for all Venom fans...

Venom Saga DVD (http://www.mvc.co.uk/common/product.jhtml?pid=50215605&&DPSLogout=true)

About time I say! Feels like I've been waiting ages for this baby to arrive!
Venom & S-M2 DVD's all out in one month! We're being spoilt! lol :D:up:

[The Navigator]

ATTENTION ALL MY FELLOW VENOMITES IN THE U.K...

It's finally here people! Yes that right, from next monday, you could own this must have for all Venom fans...

Venom Saga DVD (http://www.mvc.co.uk/common/product.jhtml?pid=50215605&&DPSLogout=true)

About time I say! Feels like I've been waiting ages for this baby to arrive!
Venom & S-M2 DVD's allo ut in one month! We're being spoilt! lol :D:up:

Crappiest cover I've ever seen, but at least all the episodes I want will be on this baby. :up:

Seeing as how he was barely IN the series....:mad::venom:

[Venom_uk]

Crappiest cover I've ever seen, but at least all the episodes I want will be on this baby. :up:

Seeing as how he was barely IN the series....:mad::venom:
Cover looks pretty good i think. lol

Yeah, he only had 2 story lines in the whole show, which sucked, but they where a good two so its not that bad I guess :)

[The Navigator]

Cover looks pretty good i think. lol

Yeah, he only had 2 story lines in the whole show, which sucked, but they where a good two so its not that bad I guess :)

I liked the first one more than the second. We had some realy crappy voice acting on the part of his psychiatrist for ""Venom Returns" and "Carnage, part 2" (???) They always named these episodes in such interesting ways...

What's your fav Venom animated series moment? Mine would be when they're on the subway train (Alien Costume III), Venom leaps up and says, "Ticket, please!" Spidey then responds, "Sorry Venom...but this is where you get off!" And then the bridge smacks into slobbermouth. :eek::D Cool moment, and funny, too.

Did you know that censors prohibited Spider-Man from throwing a punch? Apparently swinging into people and kicking them is a lot better...(see "Night of the Lizard")

Ah, well.

[Venom_uk]

I liked the first one more than the second. We had some realy crappy voice acting on the part of his psychiatrist for ""Venom Returns" and "Carnage, part 2" (???) They always named these episodes in such interesting ways...

What's your fav Venom animated series moment? Mine would be when they're on the subway train (Alien Costume III), Venom leaps up and says, "Ticket, please!" Spidey then responds, "Sorry Venom...but this is where you get off!" And then the bridge smacks into slobbermouth. :eek::D Cool moment, and funny, too.

Did you know that censors prohibited Spider-Man from throwing a punch? Apparently swinging into people and kicking them is a lot better...(see "Night of the Lizard")

Ah, well.
Really? Whoa! No I didn't know that. Thats quite straneg when you think about it. I'm gonna be looking out for that now everytime I watch it from now on. lol :D

[The Navigator]

Really? Whoa! No I didn't know that. Thats quite straneg when you think about it. I'm gonna be looking out for that now everytime I watch it from now on. lol :D

I never noticed it before but it does seem like a really strange rule, considering all the (IMO) much worse violence that we got on that show....like, oh, say....getting people hit by bridges whilst on a fast-moving train. And hurling grenades at someone (a la Hobgoblin).

They also couldn't say "kill" or "death." This is why they said "Destroy" so much, and apparently why there were so many robots in the show.

[Venom_uk]

I never noticed it before but it does seem like a really strange rule, considering all the (IMO) much worse violence that we got on that show....like, oh, say....getting people hit by bridges whilst on a fast-moving train. And hurling grenades at someone (a la Hobgoblin).

They also couldn't say "kill" or "death." This is why they said "Destroy" so much, and apparently why there were so many robots in the show.
Hmmm...intersting. I knew that knowone was ever aloud to be killed onthe show, remember what they did with MJ? Ick!!! & also why Carnage drained peoples 'life force' instead of killing people out right. Damn kiddies TV shows!!! GRRRRR :mad: :p lol

[The Navigator]

Hmmm...intersting. I knew that knowone was ever aloud to be killed onthe show, remember what they did with MJ? Ick!!! & also why Carnage drained peoples 'life force' instead of killing people out right. Damn kiddies TV shows!!! GRRRRR :mad: :p lol

Yeah, that MJ stuff was a crapshoot, IMO. Plus they cheated us out of a real ending. :mad:

Found a link to some good Venom avvys from USM. If you could copy them so I can get one, that would be a help (this mouse won't right-click)
http://members.optushome.com.au/emilyk/USM.html

[Venom_uk]

Which ones u want me to copy here for you Rabbit?

[The Navigator]

Ne'er mind, I've got someone on it already. Sorry!

But you can find some great Venom avvys there....maybe you should post them on the 'house. ;)

[Venom_uk]

Ne'er mind, I've got someone on it already. Sorry!

But you can find some great Venom avvys there....maybe you should post them on the 'house. ;)
Good idea.

Here is a small handfull of cool Ultimate Venom avatars from Dezzas Avatars (http://members.optushome.com.au/emilyk/USM.html)
http://members.optushome.com.au/emilyk/avatars/ultimateSM/venom000.jpg http://members.optushome.com.au/emilyk/avatars/ultimateSM/venom002.jpg http://members.optushome.com.au/emilyk/avatars/ultimateSM/venom005.jpg http://members.optushome.com.au/emilyk/avatars/ultimateSM/venom008.jpg http://members.optushome.com.au/emilyk/avatars/ultimateSM/venom010.jpg http://members.optushome.com.au/emilyk/avatars/ultimateSM/venom011.jpg

[The Navigator]

Yeah, those are pretty sweet....I like the one to the immediate right of mine....as well as this one:
http://members.optushome.com.au/emilyk/avatars/ultimateSM/venom-minimate000.jpg
:D

[Venom_uk]

LOL, yeah that is a funny avatar :D:up:

You've got a cool one BTW Rabbit :up:

[The Navigator]

Thanks...there's a bunch more in the 616 section....but they vary in quality. :(

[CKayote]

Originally Posted by Symbiotica
.... I'm trying, I'm trying! I have just basic ideas for plots right now, because every 5 minutes its either some awful test or some busywork assignment, which they pass out as if we're People of Leisure, and not struggling madly to keep up w/curriculum.

I have Brock/Patricia fan-art blocked out, haven't had time to touch it since. I will be working off the underwater scene in "Twist" and hopefully this will be both beautiful and interesting. [crosses fingers]

Looking forward to semester break!

Cool, can't wait to see this nemo. If its anything like the one you did of Carnage & Shriek, I'm sure it'll be excellent :up:
Is the Carnage + Shriek thing availiable somewhere I can see?

CKayote@worldnet.att.net

[Symbiotica]

...'ere you go, first up on the left:

http://www.picturetrail.com/gallery/view?p=999&gid=1824570&uid=812957

Nothing jaw-dropping, mind you, just my little attempts to stretch my technique. Everything I do falls so far short of what I visualize.

[Venom_uk]

...'ere you go, first up on the left:

http://www.picturetrail.com/gallery/view?p=999&gid=1824570&uid=812957

Nothing jaw-dropping, mind you, just my little attempts to stretch my technique. Everything I do falls so far short of what I visualize.
Tell me about it! I'm exactly the same. I've all these cool ideas tucked away in my head, but whenever I try to let them out the transition from my mind to my sketch book is never a pretty one! :confused::(

[Dangerous]

Sign of the Boss # 1 page 1-2 had ghost rider show up

I have the issue, After seeing the song here I remembered it. :)

[CKayote]

Symbiotica: Awesome! Even if it's not quite what was in your head, it's still a hell of lot better than what I can draw.


Venom_UK: You're not the only one. There's so much **** in my head and I can't draw for beans!

CKayote@worldnet.att.net

[Venom_uk]

Just ordered a few Venom back issues that I've been missing. I'm FINALLY going to get to find out how Lethal Protector finishes! Whey hey! :D

Anyway, heres what I've ordered...

VENOM LETHAL PROTECTOR #5
VENOM LETHAL PROTECTOR #6
VENOM SEPARATION ANXIETY #1
VENOM SEPARATION ANXIETY #2
VENOM SEPARATION ANXIETY #3
VENOM SEPARATION ANXIETY #4

Anyone else read 'Seperation Anxiety' or 'Lethal Protector'? If so what do you think of them. 'Seperation Anxiety' looks good (plenty of symbiotc action! :D) & 'Lethal Pro' is one of the best Venom minis that i've read so far, but I'd like to here your views on it too. :up:

[Venom_uk]

http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v426/Venom_uk/balloons.jpg

WHOOOO HOOOO!!!

Only 37,000 more posts & we'll catch up with the Doc Ock one!!! ;):D:p

[The Navigator]

Better get crackin', then. ;)