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The Navigator

11-05-2004, 12:46 PM

Part one of my little fanfic, as promised. Enjoy!

Venom: Black

The floorboards of the old church squealed like pigs as the blonde man carefully trod on them. He was aware of those who had walked this aisleway with every step he took. He felt their presence in this place--this holy place. Manhy had walked, many had repented, many had been saved. Had transformed from guilty to innocent.
He smiled, running a hand through his blond hair absent-mindedly, a gesture that might have looked somewhat boyish to those who didn't know the man well. Those who knew him well would have been surprised at anything about him being described as "boyish."
Particularly the one other person who knew him before he did.
His smile disappeared and was nearly replaced by a different smile, one that only those about to see his true self bore witness to. He supressed that grin, remembereing why he was here, and softly made his way to the small, wooden booth, and shut the door.
The grated opening next to him slid open and he peered into the face of a man greater than just innocent; here was a man who made someone innocent. This slightly pudgy, balding but black-clad man was a savior. And for no recompense. He would have wept if he had been the same man he was fifteen years ago.
But time passes. Things change. And people become...different.
"Forgive me, Father, for I have sinned and it's been...." the man scratched the small stubble on his chin. He had forgotten to shave and chided himself. Then he chuckled and finished, "Well, quite a long time since my last confession, and let's leave it at that."
"In what way have you sinned?" asked the slightly pudgy man. He didn't look at Eddie as he asked the question.
"Murder," the blonde said blandly, as if stating the weather or a statistic, "Attempted murder. Evading the law. Harassment. Assault. Vigilante-ism. Some small counts of theft, but only when absolutely necesary." He noticed the priest's attire. "Holy week so soon? I forget the important things lately..."
There was a moment of silence between the two men. Then.
"I get the sense," the priest said with a calculating overtone, "that you didn't come here to talk about those things...as serious as they are. Why don't you share what's really on your mind, Eddie?"
"....You won't tell anyone, will you?"
"If I'm not going to tell anyone about the list you just said, I seriously doubt I'll share what's coming next."
"All right, then." Eddie said, tapping his finger absently against his chin. Another boyish habit that wasn't. "I have been judging."
"In what way?"
"I have judged those who have hurt the innocent. And I judged their punishment as well."
"So I've heard....but this is the first time you've come to me, or any member of the cloth, so far as I know."
There was an unspoken question Eddie didn't want to answer.
"It's...," he began, his mouth dry, and then licked his lips. "It's just that w--I've been looking back lately....looking back over my life. And I'm not sure I like what I see."
"What about it troubles you?"
The priest had not looked at him. Eddie needed him to look, acknowledge him somehow--
"I wonder sometimes...have I done enough? Have I allowed my personal feelings get in the way of...of the prize? The goal?"
"It might help," the priest said, the slightest note of dryness in his voice, "if I knew what you mean by prize."
"Yes," Eddie said, mentally punishing himself for forgetting. The priest didn't know him at all, just what...what he heard. "Yes. The goal...the prize...is to protect those that are innocent."
"And you determine those that are innocent."
"Yes. Up until recently, I felt I was justified to do it. But..."
He shook his head, waved his hands as if clearing a slate.
"Let me start from the beginning. It's the only way you'll understand, I think. The only way...I can cleanse myself in the eyes of the Lord."

"The first memory I have, and it's faded and distant, I admit, but there...is my father taking me to school the first day.
A word about my father, first: he was a good man. He never failed in supporting a child, even after I moved out and into college. He always supported me, because he gave me a home and a future. I know he supported me. He must have.
"In any case, the first memory is of my father driving me to school...and as I left the car, he grabbed my sleeve for a moment and said, 'I expect great things from you.' To this day, I'm not sure if that was out of admiration or an admonishment. I knew so little about things back then, you see...I was a child, after all. 'Folly is bound up in the heart of a child, but...'" Eddie's brow furrowed as he tried to remember.
"'...but the rod of discipline will drive it from him.' Proverbs 22:15," the priest finished for him. Eddie smiled.
"Yes, thank you. Exactly right. Certainly that applied to me as a young one....I was not beaten," he suddenly cut in, stern-faced. "I want to make that very clear. I was never abused by my father. He didn't touch me. Once."
He held up a singular finger to the wodden grate, as if daring the priest to disagree. The priest merely nodded his head, understanding and dissenting at once. Eddie relaxed, sitting back and straightening his posture.
"Never touched me," he continued. "I meant that, both ways. There were...were no showings of affection, no hugs, nothing. But I considered myself lucky. From an early age, I was taught about the world...taught about rapists and perverts. The ones that hurt those that didn't deserve it.
"I hated that," he said, his eyes burning. "I hated it. The first time I saw a newspaper article about the rising molestation rate, I took it out. Pinned it to my wall. And looked at for hours, as if I could burn it away, burn the evidence away just by a child's glare.
"Needless to say, it didn't work. I didn't burn it. But I didn't take it down, either. I added to the wall, added more accounts of rape and theft and murder and stared at each of them for hours, memorizing the ways and the victims. And, almost more importantly, the names of those accused. I had to remember everything about them. Their faces, their living habits, their likes and dislikes...and made sure I would not become one of them. I had to avoid the damnation you see, by any way possible."
"Eddie...where did you go to school?" This was mostly to just change the subject then a sincere wonderment.
"Oh, it was a private school, most certainly," Eddie recited with pride. "Saint Jerome's private school. He was the patron saint of libraries, did you know?"
"No, I didn't."
"That was practically their motto. I think it was carved under their name on that sign out front, the big granite one. They never let you forget it, right through the catechisms in CCD." He chuckled. "I still don't know what that stands for. Oh, well.
"I think they kept saying it because they were watchful of us, like librarians. They kept shrewd tabs on everone in the school, and every time--every time--someone snuck out, or swiped a little of the blood of christ for...private use, they found out. The sisters were watching you even when God wasn't, was the unofficial slogan back then. They always found out, and gave paddlings that left one standing for a week straight. Strict, but fair, they were.
"Except once."

Eddie Brock, nine years old with the world ahead of him and nothing behind, was drifitng towards his class one day when he heard a noise.
It was a soft noise, easy to overlook, but an unusual and therefore noticeable one in these environs:
It was the sound of a whimper.
Frowning, he crept past the lockers from where he had heard the noise and looked into the bathroom, slowly pushing the door open--but not too far, it had a telltale creak in its hinge past a certain point. His jaw dropped open in shock.
A girl, head full of red hair was in the boy's bathroom. And she was surrounded by boys, too. Five of them, and they all had their belts out.
Eddie recognized one of them: Paul Wilkes, son of headmistress Mary Wilkes. He had a face full of freckles and eyes full of a probing mischief.
He also had his pants down.
At first Eddie didn't get what was going on--why was there a girl in the boy's bathroom? Maybe Paul had been midway through his "process" when he'd heard her, and had come out to explain the difference in the signs on the doors.
Then he saw the girl's hands tied to the pipe and he got it in a hurry. He also leaned forward in shock and, true to form, the traitorous door creaked. Thr boys all turned and for a moment they all could only stand there, as if they were marionettes whose puppeteer had taken a pause.
Then things got moving in a hurry. Eddie quickly unslung his bookbag and swung it at the nearest boy, hitting him right in the gut and then knocking him over. For a moment, Eddie's hopes were buoyed and he lunged into the fray.
And then he realized tat four on one was still unfavorable odds when they fell on him. They quickly subdued him, each taking a limb while Paul, holding Eddie's left arm, got right up in his face.
"Brock," he said, his mouth nearly foamy with rage. "Figures it would be you if anyone that found me--little goody-two-shoes."
Eddie couldn't speak, his terror so thick over what they could--and probably would--do to him for being in the wrong place at the wrong time.
Except he had been in just the right place, hadn't he? Just the right place to save an innocent, just like Sir George who vanquished that dragon.
Well, he was facing a hell of a dragon right now, and it didn't need to breathe fire to kill him.
"We were just expirimenting on her," Paul said, his tone almost petulant and smirking at the same time. "I suppose we could switch over to you, though....she'll be out for a while anyway."
Eddie's anger speared through his rage and he reached for his bookbag. He had been on his way to a science class...if he could just get the book...his hand reached the zipper, straining to pull it down without being noticed.
"Besides," Paul said, making Eddie's blood really boil, "she's just a girl."
Eddie pulled down on the small handle, hoping this wouldn't make a noise like the door--and when it didn't, he reached inside, fumbled for the book and found it.
"You know a lot about girls, Eddie--cause you--"
And then Eddie swung the book up, breaking Paul's hold on his arm for a brief moment and slammed the hardcover into his temple. The carefully structured rack of humans collapsed, and Eddie was able to break free for a minute, incapacitating the others with his textbook as best he could. He took out the helpers first--the ones who were just going to watch. Then he turned to Paul, who was still awake, and livid.
Destroyer of the innocent.
"Go ahead, ******," Paul said. "You know that's why you can't watch--it's because you're a homo."
Eddie, personal insults forgotten, spied one of the loose belts on the floor and picked it up. Paul immediately turned white.
"Hey, Eddie, I didn't really mean it," he mewled. Mewled like a rat in a trap, knowing the pain it's already gotten is nothing compared to what's on the horizon. "It was all in fun."
"All in fun, huh?" Eddie asked, his voice husky and furious. "Hope you have a good time with this, then."
And he cracked the belt across Paul's face. Paul slumped to the side, ready to scream--like a girl, no doubt--when Eddie hit him again, this time with metal, tearing open a small brook of blood. This time Paul really did scream, and Eddie faded into a haze that he only remembered in snatches later, but he remembered the scream throughout. The scream of the guilty being punished as justice was served cold as vengeance.
Then the haze was penetrated by the door screeching open again and arms grabbed his, forcing him out of his automatic trance. He struggled against the grip, determine to see punishment meted, but it was no use. The adult (teacher? preacher?) had him firmly, and dragged him out of the bathroom. His eyes happened to fall upon the girl.
And she gave him a smile he would never forget or forgive.

Venom_uk

11-05-2004, 12:47 PM

Better get crackin', then. ;)
Nah, never gonna catch up with that thread. Its a MONSTER!!! lol :p

I'm quite happy having started the 2nd largest fan thread here in Spidey World. That'll do me :):up:

The Navigator

11-05-2004, 12:49 PM

Good. :venom:

Venom_uk

11-05-2004, 01:01 PM

Cool fanfic Rabbit. Really good stuff. :up:

I like that fact that Eddie saw himself as a protector of the innocent even back then. Nice touch. Look forward to the next part now. :)

I'd love to see Marvel do something like this with Venom, delve deeper into his childhood/history, show us what back then turned him into the man he is (or at least was) today. Just like there doing with Doc Ock right now with 'Year One'.

p.s. Did that Venom Bio I posted the other day for you acyually come in handy at all btw Rabbit??? lol

The Navigator

11-05-2004, 01:04 PM

Yes, actually, it did. YOu told me his wife's name. :D

Now I need to find me a Sin-Eater bio, but that shouldn't be too hard....(I certainly don't need as much as on Venom)

Venom_uk

11-05-2004, 01:07 PM

Yes, actually, it did. YOu told me his wife's name. :D

Now I need to find me a Sin-Eater bio, but that shouldn't be too hard....(I certainly don't need as much as on Venom)
Here you go....

Sin-Eater Bio (http://www.spiderfan.org/characters/sineater1.html)

:)

The Navigator

11-05-2004, 01:08 PM

Ah, thanks. Again. :D:up:

Naturally, this guy'll be showing up soon....

Venom_uk

11-05-2004, 01:11 PM

Ah, thanks. Again. :D:up:

Naturally, this guy'll be showing up soon....
Oh of course. He plays a big part in Venoms creation. It's a shame hes dead actually, because maybe Eddie would have blaimed all his misfortune on him then instead of Spidey, & he would have gone after him instead....hmmmm....

The Navigator

11-05-2004, 01:12 PM

Venom_uk

11-05-2004, 01:15 PM

Yeah, but then he would've killed Stan and we'd have no villain. Spidey he can chase around until the end of time. ;)

Don't know when part 2's gonna be up--haven't written it yet. But we'll get to see more of the peripheral characters--like Eddie's pappy.
Damn you reply fast! :eek: lol ;)

Yeah, Venom would have killed Stan then, no question. Then he probably would have gone after Spidey anyway! lol

The Navigator

11-05-2004, 01:18 PM

I'm a rabbit, what do you expect? ;)

Yeah, that's probably true, though. Damn, I hadn't read Sin-Eater's story before--that's amazing.

Shockdingo

11-05-2004, 03:58 PM

Wow great story! It's excellent!
I come bearing awesomeness htp://www.action-figure.com/Article13150.html

Venom_uk

11-05-2004, 04:09 PM

Wow great story! It's excellent!
I come bearing awesomeness htp://www.action-figure.com/Article13150.html
:eek::eek::eek: *has venom-gasum* :venom:

That figure is frigging sweet as hell man!!! Damn! That is by far THE BEST Venom figure I have ever seen in my life. I MUST HAVE IT!!!

http://www.action-figure.com/images/04/11/venom/v1.jpg

To bad I've got more chance of winning the Lotto, getting hit by lightning & bedding Kirtsen Dunst all in the same day then getting hold of that bad boy! :(

Oh well, guess my next holiday will be in Japan then. :up: LOL

Symbiotica

11-05-2004, 05:22 PM

[looking at action figure]

http://www.action-figure.com/images/04/11/venom/v5.jpg

NEMO.

WANTS.

NOOOOOW!!!!!

Give me him NOW! Okay, we need a version of this figure in this country. its not fair to tantalize the whole world with this guy, and then have only 1000 people in Japan able to get him. That's just discrimination.

AND WHERE IS CARNAGE TO GO WITH HIM?! End discrimination now, people!

Venom_uk

11-05-2004, 05:31 PM

Are there any nice Japanese people on the hype that want to be my new best friend??? :D;)

:venom:

Symbiotica

11-05-2004, 05:37 PM

I am turning Japanese; it's official. [gets out the DNA-splicing kit]

God almighty. I am almost sorry I saw that, I want that so much. TOYBIZ?!!! DO SOMETHING!

Venom_uk

11-05-2004, 05:46 PM

I am turning Japanese; it's official. [gets out the DNA-splicing kit]

God almighty. I am almost sorry I saw that, I want that so much. TOYBIZ?!!! DO SOMETHING!
Come one, you know if Toybiz ever made something like that, they would make it an uber-rare, variant & would be short-packed like knowones business! ;):p

Oh, let me know how that splicing thing with the Japanese DNA goes.
Might have to look into that if there are no adveres side-effects. :up:

The Navigator

11-05-2004, 06:24 PM

Wow great story! It's excellent!
I come bearing awesomeness http://www.action-figure.com/Article13150.html

Let's see what we can see here...

The Navigator

11-05-2004, 06:25 PM

MY GOD........:eek::venom:

Maximum coolness.

fever red

11-05-2004, 07:06 PM

Rabbit, I love the Eddie fic. About time he faced the spiritual divide between his life before and following symbiosis. It's like Kasady is the only one given to serious, deep philosophical thought!
Eddie just set his faith aside, so it's the last part of him to be expressed in a new way for for his new life.
Where you're going with this, I don't know, but I'm happy to ride.

The Navigator

11-05-2004, 07:09 PM

Well, thank you kindly. I always wondered why they bothered to label Eddie as a "devout catholic" if they were never going to do anything with it.

I think you'll all be pleased. I know I certainly am. :venom:

"We're going to turn out your lights. This party is OVER!"
:D

Dr.Dude

11-05-2004, 11:37 PM

Wow great story! It's excellent!
I come bearing awesomeness htp://www.action-figure.com/Article13150.htmlWhat I love about that figure is the way it doesn't bother adding all the strange overexaggation and overly-extra details that have slowly weakened Venom's look over the years--- the figure represents him straight-out McFarlane/Bagley style; sleek, spider-like and absolutely menacing as hell. Awesome. :cool::up:

Venom Drool

11-06-2004, 12:14 AM

omg, classic venom!

venom892

11-06-2004, 02:17 PM

Here is a pic of my Venom Comics.

http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v255/Venom89/JULY2004mycatSomepicsJulian084.jpg

Venom vs Carnage #1-3,Venom#1,Amazing Spider-man #375,Venom:The maddess #1,Spider-man vs. Venom TPB{includes all the mcfarlane issues},The hunger TPB,Web of Spider-man #101{My only Maxium Carnage issue.:(},Ultimate Spider-man #33 and 36.{I really need to get the rest of the arc.:(}

Venom_uk

11-06-2004, 02:21 PM

Cool collection venom892 :up:

I regonise most of them comics from my own collection. :)

The Navigator

11-06-2004, 04:52 PM

Part 2 of the fic:

"You must have felt very proud, protecting that little girl," the Priest said. "What happened to Paul?"
"Hospitalized," Brock said, smiling a toothy grin that wasn't very boyish, handsome, or human. "Nearly concussed, I beat him so hard. But he pulled through. Eventually."
"I imagine his mother had some things to say to you," the Priest commented.
"Yes, " Eddie said, and his smile faded. "Although, truth be told, I don't remember much about what happened...she...punished me, I think."
"Punished you?"
"Yes, " Eddie said grimly. "She refused to believe her precious Paulie was a guilty party to anything. But her disciplinary measures were nothing compared to when I got home..."

Eddie, his face swollen and bruised, trudged through the front door and into the house, dragging his bookbag behind him on the floor. His clothes were ruined, as were his books....but he had never felt better. Until he heard that voice.
"Eddie? Come here, please."
The hairs on Eddie's neck grew cold, and he put down his bag and went into the kitchen where his father waited.
"Sit down."
He did. His father was a well-built man with graying hair. But he was neither slow nor stupid.
"Eddie....ever since your mother went to the right hand of the Lord, I made a vow I wouldn't touch you. I promised I wouldn't hurt you in any way....it would be like spitting into the eye of Mary. But this....this makes me want to pick up my belt and start carving you a new back. I got a call from Headmistress Wilkes, and I must say, I'm very, very disappointed."
"There was a girl," Eddie said quietly. "And some boys were hitting her. I hit them, instead."
"Really? Not the story I got....but let's entertain the notion for just a moment. Suppose I were to completely disregard one of the brides of Christ and accept your little rescue mission. Accept how you stopped five strapping young lads from hitting a defenseless young girl. All by yourself, no less. A girl that very conveniently disappears at the end of the story, right?"
"She....went home, I guess..."
"Of course she did. Couldn't be expected to stay in school because of her injuries, grievous...and probably fictional...as they were. Tell me, Eddie....what was her name?"
Eddie stammered, trying to remember. He hadn't gotten her name. His father read that from the look on his face.
"No name, then....which makes this all the more convincing."
"Daddy, please..."
"Stop, Eddie, I'm not done. Supposing, of course, that this highly improbable collection of anecdotes is true. You stopped Paul Wilkes from beating on a young girl. And who won?"
Eddie, confused, stammered, "I--I did."
"No, you didn't. You stopped him from hitting the girl--but in the end, he hit you harder by getting you suspended."
"I....I don't understand."
"It's called the big picture, Eddie. You picked a fight with--"
For the first time in that whole conversation--indeed, in any conversation with his father--Eddie grew angry.
"I didn't pick a fight! I stopped him from--"
"Shhh, shh......I know. Poor choice of words on my part. You....encountered?...Paul in his rather unchivalrous act, and proceeded to beat him. But you also drew attention of authoity figures, and they only saw you hitting him."
Eddie began to calm down--and to get it. "Oh..."
"Ah, you see what I'm saying, now. Paul got the last laugh by runing to Mommy, Eddie. He got in that last punch."
"Wait....you...you believe me?"
"Of course I do. For a headmistress, Wilkes needs to stop hitting the bottle so hard; I could practically smell it through the receiver. That, and her track record with men isn't exactly pure as the driven snow. But Eddie...you can't just take down the Pauls of the world...you have to attack the sources. You have to stop the Headmistresses, if you want to really protect people. And you've got to withstand the pressure those authority figures will put on you. You've got to be as strong as the house built on the rock, Eddie. You have to beat them at their own game, and there'sonly one job in the world that can let you do that."
"Politics?"
"The newspaper, Eddie. They took down Nixon with the newspaper...you can take down the headmistresses of the world."
Eddie thought about this for a miinute....brooding. Then he snapped back to attention, as his father stood up.
"So," his father said "...do we understand each other?"
"Yes, sir."
"Good. Because this was the worl'ds way of giving you a warning, Eddie. The next time they'll expell you, arrest you, or beat you back. And on that day, only your heavenly father will forgive you."
And, after letting this sink in for a moment, Eddie's father left, leaving the young boy to ponder his future...

Eddie, of course, went back to school a week later, after being repeatedly told he was under close supervision and that he'd better not try anything. Eddie, of course, politely smiled and affirmed that he'd cause no trouble. And he was telling the truth.
Every morning he went to mass with his classmates, prayed before Jesus, listened quietly to the sermon. He could feel Headmistress Wilkes' glare on the back of his neck, but he welcomed it. Eventually, she would convince herself of his innocence.and concentrate harder on the affairs of the school. She could not watch him for long. Eddie, on the other hand, constantly watched Paul--even when he couldn't see him. He'd carefully cut out the small picture from the last yearbook and put it in his uniform pocket. Whenever Paul left, he took out the photo and watched it as intently as he would had the boy been in front of him.
He fueled his rage--and his need for vengeance.
Eventually, Eddie was proven right. Headmistress Wilkes did indeed turn her attention away from him...not even acknowledging him should he pass in the hall. He tested her watchfulness in little ways, undetectable ways....and when he was absolutely sure, he made his move.
Paul had indeed been watched. Eddie had seen him perform his unique talents on other young girls, and he'd found the pattern: first came the approach, which consisted of surrounding the poor thing, making snatches perhaps at her hair and clothes. Then she'd be allowed to run--thiking she'd gotten away for the twenty foot head start they gave her. Then the boys would resume the pursuit, grabbing whatever they could get their hands on fastest--sticks, belts, sometimes rulers. Then they'd surround her again, and this time, soften her up. Eddie had had to take his own belt between his teeth to avoid grinding his own teeth down to powder in a fury. But he'd abstained...and watched as Paul (always Paul) unfastened his pants, and.....finished things.
The first time he had watched, he was disgusted--not just with the boys but himself for not rushing in. He felt helpless to his own sense of responsibility. But then, he'd forced himself to toughen his resolve and make sure of the pattern. Once he had--and had made sure Paul's mother was not hanging over him like a vulture--Eddie had taken his father's Polaroid and scrupulously documented the entire affair, and more than once.
The last time, he'd been nearly forced to destroy his own resolve. He'd taken some very candid photos of Paul and "little" Paul....when he'd seen the girl.
It had been the first girl he'd saved...the one with the red hair and fiery eyes. The one whose name he still didn't know. For a brief moment, those eyes of hers had connected with his, had seen him...and he was trapped, unable to look away or come to her rescue.
Do something.
I am doing something. I'm....watching the big picture.
I'm sure the girl really loves you for it, too.
But then, she'd looked away, heartbroken and hurt in a way mere blows could not express. Eddie had stolen away into the bushes and found a tree to cry under. He stayed there, weeping, for an hour. And then, he had gotten up, wiped his eyes, and decided that he had done everything he needed to--except the final thing.

"My goodness, Edward," an apalled Sister Grace said. "These are very...disturbing. You took all these?"
"Yes." His tongue was difficult to move, and the less spoken, the better.
"My goodness...." She went through the photos, and then put them down. "You realize I'll have to tell the police. And they might want to talk to you."
"Yes."
"And I'll have to bring this up at the staff meeting, of course."
"No, please!" Eddie could almost see his plan fragmenting and falling apart. Wilkes headed the meeting. "You can't!"
"Edward, I simply don't have the authority to edxpell Paul, even with evidence such as this."
"But his Mom--"
"Will see reason once you've shown her these photos."
"Me?" All at once, coldness seemed to pervade every pore of his being.
"Why not? Oh, I understand there was that incident some time ago, but with documented proof such as this....why, she'll turn right around!"
Eddie couldn't say anything.

Unfortunately, the Headmistress didn't seem to have that problem.
"You...little....snoop."
A big, almost shapeless woman, the headmistress was deceptively muscular under the cloak of her robes. Eddie's innards seemed packed in icebags, the fog of horror becoming more dense all around him. Wilkes picked up the photos--all the photos--and began shaking them lazily.
"My eyes wandered from you, little sheep, and you broke out of the gate," she said. "Didn't you?"
Eddie didn't know what to say. If anything, he seemed more trapped now than that sheep she had mentioned.
She belted him across the jaw.
"Didn't you?" she asked again, this time with a harder edge to her voice. She slapped the photos down on the desk, nearly hitting his hand. Eddie was about to nod--
The pressure. You have to withstand the pressure.
So Eddie drew in a breath, and in a small, quivering voice, said, "No, ma'am."
The Headmistress raised a bushy eyebrow, and then, frighteningly, smiled.
"No," she mused, and turned to face the window. "You're being difficult, Eddie, but that's what I expected."
She was facing the window....away from the photos. Eddie, breath gone, reached out....and snatched one, putting it in his pocket as quickly and quietly as he dared.
"It's always a trial, Eddie," Wilkes continued, turning--and nearly catching sight of his theft, but not quite. "A trial of patience for me, and a trial of pain for you."
"Please...don't hurt me, Headmistress."
"I'm not going to hurt you, Eddie. I'm going to sharpen you. Iron unto iron, after all."
She pulled a key from the folds of her robe and pushed it into the desk's bottom drawer. After a moment, she opened the drawer and pulled out a long oak paddle, three inches thick at its widest point and its edges dulled from years of use.
"Bend over, Eddie," she said, and her lip curled upward in a slight smile. He unfastened his belt, pulled down his pants and bent double, waiting for the stinging rap to the behind. It didn't come.
"Spy on my boy, Eddie.....a child of the Lord," she said, disgusted. "No red scarf at your Jericho, Eddie." And then she swung.
The paddle hit him in the back of the head, and Eddie cried out in surprise and a disoriented pain. Another blow and Eddie fell to the floor.
"You know what the seat of the emotions was in the old testament, Eddie?" Wilkes asked, as if she were merely giving him a regular paddling. "Nowadays, of course, it's the heart. But in the old testament....the books that contained law, retribution and punishment....the seat of the emotions was your home, Eddie. The bowels." And she swung again, but this time, Eddie was able to move, and the paddle hit him in the side instead of the head.
"Pity, Eddie," she said. "You moved....resisted. More disciplinary measures are required."
She put a fist through the window, and grabbed a shard of glass. Eddie's eyes widened, the nightmare of this encounter becoming darker....fading to black. She turned back to Eddie, smiled almost sadly, and moved slowly towards him.
Eddie shed his pants like a snakeskin and got up, spied the paddle. He lunged forward, snatched it up, and brandished it like Excalibur at the Headmistress. Amazingly, she laughed.
"Little Edward," she said. "You caused my boy a lot of pain, and you honestly believed you could leave my office without getting an equal, if not superior, amount of damage? Eye for an eye."
"What about....forgiveness?" Eddie asked, surprised he was still able to speak.
"Jesus forgives. Headmistresses do not," she smiled, and came after him.
Eddie swung the paddle and it smashed into her knee. With a cry, she fell to the ground, dropping the shard.
Finish her. Beat her skull hollow.
That little voice was a darker, nastier one...and he was disturbed by how much he wanted to listen.
Insteadm he dropped the paddle, shoved his way through the office doors, and sprinted outside the school grounds, and then ran into the woods, and then collapsed in exhaustion by the tree he had watched the girl get--get--
He pulled his lone victory from his pocket and looked at the picture.
It had enough of Paul's body to show what he was doing, exactly....but his face was a little blurry from a quick movement. Would it hold up? Maybe.....but could he take the chance, even now?
He heard a twig snap and pushed himself away from it in terror. Wilkes had dragged herself on her broken knee through the woods, come for him. He was sure of it as the snaps kept getting closer. With no energy left to run, and the sole evidenced he had in plain sight, Eddie collapsed to the earth, shooting up a silent prayer.
Save me, Jesus. Save me.
And, mercifully, he did. The snaps stopped...and the little red-haired girl stepped out from the bushes. Eddie let out a breath in shuddery gasps, pushing himself up against the tree.
"Hello," she said. Her voice was small, almost hidden in its quietness....and yet possessed a core of strength, a depth that would not be hurt by fists or rapes.
Eddie nodded to her, too exhausted to speak.
"You didn't come after them yesterday," she said. "I kept waiting for you to come and....rescue me."
"I......" he licked his lips. "I had to stop him....with this." He held up the photo he took, and she slowly bent down and took it from him.
"You took this?"
He nodded.
"It's a good picture."
"Once....once I give that to.....the police, he won't be able to hurt you anymore."
"You promise?" she asked.
"I promise."
"You're my perfect," she said, and hugged him fiercly. "Protect me....always?"
He struggled through the differing emotions he felt and then said, "Yes. Forever and always."
"I knew you would....because you're my perfect, Eddie. My perfect little hero." And then she smiled that smile again....the one that warmed him on the coldest days for years afterwards. The beautiful smile of a girl.
"I don't....I don't know your name, you know," he said.
"It's....it's Anne."
"That's a pretty name."
"My dad tells me it's an ugly name....he says I should have had more brains to go with such a plain name....instead of my ugliness."
She cried into Eddie's chest, and he held her that way for a long, long time.

Venom_uk

11-06-2004, 04:57 PM

Jeez Rabbit :eek:

Thats gonna take me awhile to read...see ya in half an hour dude! :up: ;)

The Navigator

11-06-2004, 05:00 PM

:D

Hope you like it, though....this is easier to write than I thought it would be....a lot more fun, too. ;)

Venom_uk

11-06-2004, 05:16 PM

Once again Rabbit, nice job. Very nice job :) :up:

I like the fact that you've set up his jurnalism roots so eary onl. Aswell as that little 'voice' Eddie has in the back of his mind, egging him on. Know wonder he goes mad once he's got the symbiote! lol
Also liked the fact that the girl he saved is/will be his wife. Had a feeling she would be some how ;) lol

Anyway, good job again Rabbit, glad to here your enjoying do this also. Thats always a bonus. :)

The Navigator

11-06-2004, 05:19 PM

Thanks so much--it's really nice just to be able to write for fun....especially with this guy! :venom:

fever red

11-06-2004, 08:17 PM

D@mn, that's good- it's wild; I never thought of Eddie facing that kind of brutality from authority. The abuse from the headmistress kind of paralells what we know of Kasady's life in the orphanage. Wierd/cool. Actually, perfect.
Now, what follows is all feedback that isn't intended to challenge what you have established...just to encourage you to consider a few other aspects of Eddie. I may not be that accurate in my understanding of him. This is to the best of my knowledge. Your story shows a new way of looking at his motivations, and I like it- I thought they were more self-serving, before the Symbiote. It's great that he is altruistic at an early age- but won't that have to change? Would a man who deeply honors the truth blame Spidey, and not himself, for the Sin-Eater debacle? At some point, wouldn't he have to damp down this idealism in exchange for ambition? Otherwise; he'd have too much integrity to put the blame on Spidey. Really, all I'm saying is, don't make Eddie too noble; give him a nature with some baseness in it.
I like his father's coldness and pragmatism- that establishes early on just how badly and finally Eddie fails him.

CKayote

11-07-2004, 01:32 AM

Just ordered a few Venom back issues that I've been missing. I'm FINALLY going to get to find out how Lethal Protector finishes! Whey hey! :D

Anyway, heres what I've ordered...

VENOM LETHAL PROTECTOR #5
VENOM LETHAL PROTECTOR #6
VENOM SEPARATION ANXIETY #1
VENOM SEPARATION ANXIETY #2
VENOM SEPARATION ANXIETY #3
VENOM SEPARATION ANXIETY #4

Anyone else read 'Seperation Anxiety' or 'Lethal Protector'? If so what do you think of them. 'Seperation Anxiety' looks good (plenty of symbiotc action! :D) & 'Lethal Pro' is one of the best Venom minis that i've read so far, but I'd like to here your views on it too. :up:
Seperation Anxiety's always been my favorite. Great art! (lots of symbiote goodness), Good writing, lots of character dynamics and mini-back stories that they could have done a lot with had they not ended it the way they did.

CKayote@worldnet.att.net

Venom_uk

11-07-2004, 07:59 AM

Seperation Anxiety's always been my favorite. Great art! (lots of symbiote goodness), Good writing, lots of character dynamics and mini-back stories that they could have done a lot with had they not ended it the way they did.

CKayote@worldnet.att.net
Cool. Sounds like I made the right choice by ordering that mini then. Although what you said about the ending kinda has my worried now! lol
Hopefully I should have them pretty early on this week.
Can't go wrong with abit of Symbiotic action if you ask me :venom::up:

Venom_uk

11-07-2004, 08:21 PM

I'm sssssooooo tempted to buy this bad boy!

http://66.201.122.150/productimages/merchandise/13229-masks-venom.jpg
Venom Mask... (http://www.epicheroes.com/webshop/byproductCategory.asp?page=2&SubName=&ChildParentID=922&ParentCategoryID=4)

I mean, come one, now sweet is that?!? & it's only £16.99! lol

Shame Halloween's just gone...havn't really got an excuse to buy/wear it now! :confused:

Symbiotica

11-07-2004, 09:37 PM

Buy a styrofoam wig-head, mount it to a plaque, put mask on it and hang on the wall: voila', you get to look at Venom all the year round, and when Halloween rolls around, he's still nice and handy.

Venom Drool

11-07-2004, 11:22 PM

be spidey...and walk with venom's head on a stick ;)

Venom_uk

11-08-2004, 06:50 AM

Buy a styrofoam wig-head, mount it to a plaque, put mask on it and hang on the wall: voila', you get to look at Venom all the year round, and when Halloween rolls around, he's still nice and handy.
be spidey...and walk with venom's head on a stick ;)
LOL

Both sound like good ideas to me :up:
I'm sold. Right, now...where's my credit card???...

The Navigator

11-08-2004, 03:27 PM

Venom_uk

11-08-2004, 04:30 PM

Whey hey! Its finally out! The 'Venom Sags' DVD was release in the UK today, & I've got it! :D:D:D

All Venom's episodes from the classic 90's Spider-man cartoon are included on the DVD. Which are...

"The Alien Costume, Part One"
"The Alien Costume, Part Two"
"The Alien Costume, Part Three"
The Sins Of Fathers, Chapter X: "Venom Returns" &
The Sins Of Fathers, Chapter XI: "Carnage"

DVD extras - Waste o time! As with every other Spidey DVD in this series, we get usual episode intro's from Stan 'the man' Lee, which are pretty pointless but fun all the same. We also get a mini interview, again with Stan, talking about Venom (for awhile anyway), before he goes off on one & starts talking about having his pic taken as a child with a pony (I s**t you not!) & robots!:D:up:

All in all, this is a MUST have for all Venomites outt here. :up:

The Navigator

11-08-2004, 04:32 PM

Venom_uk

11-08-2004, 04:34 PM

Hey, they have all the episodes I want! :D

....pic taken with a pony. Yeah, Stan Lee's in a world of his own.
It's quite an entertaining/funny interview with him to be fair. He's a BIG fan of Venom too :):up:

The Navigator

11-08-2004, 04:39 PM

It's quite an entertaining/funny interview with him to be fair. He's a BIG fan of Venom too :):up:

That's cool. See, Raimi? Even the guy who created the classic villians likes Venom. He can mold with the times....WHY CAN'T YOU?!?! :mad:

I'm calm, I'm calm.

The Navigator

11-08-2004, 05:08 PM

http://www.cometgames-store.de/archiv/venom-blackwin.gif

A damn cool image of Venom if ever I saw one.

Venom_uk

11-08-2004, 05:13 PM

http://www.cometgames-store.de/archiv/venom-blackwin.gif

A damn cool image of Venom if ever I saw one.
Thats a pic thats been edited by the looks of things. It's from the Marvel Vs Capcom beat'um up game if I'm not mistaken, & Venom is blue in that!
Good manip though :up: Like it.

The Navigator

11-08-2004, 06:37 PM

Thats a pic thats been edited by the looks of things. It's from the Marvel Vs Capcom beat'um up game if I'm not mistaken, & Venom is blue in that!
Good manip though :up: Like it.

Also the first pic I've ever seen where his spittle is clear. ;)
But that could be the 2nd player version of him....they change his colors for that (along with everyone else).

Venom_uk

11-08-2004, 06:37 PM

So, did anyone else pick up the 'Venom Saga' DVD today, or am I on my own? lol

The Navigator

11-08-2004, 06:41 PM

So, did anyone else pick up the 'Venom Saga' DVD today, or am I on my own? lol

Couldn't get to the store...:( I did buy the Carnage TPB, though, if that helps.

Venom_uk

11-08-2004, 06:43 PM

Couldn't get to the store...:( I did buy the Carnage TPB, though, if that helps.
The USM Carnage TPB? I've just ordered that a few minutes ago actually, & no, it dosn't help ;):p

The Navigator

11-08-2004, 06:44 PM

Sorry then, ya Brit. ;)
I'm still waiting on my Hicks figure. THEN I'll but the Venom DVD. (seeing as how I'm poor)

Venom_uk

11-08-2004, 06:45 PM

Sorry then, ya Brit. ;)
I'm still waiting on my Hicks figure. THEN I'll but the Venom DVD. (seeing as how I'm poor)
I'm glad you said Brit & nothing Englisg related! :mad: :p

Hicks figure???

The Navigator

11-08-2004, 06:47 PM

Corporal Hicks. From Aliens. Filmed in the UK, dontcha know. ;)
You know, Mister Stick-the-shotgun-in-the-Alien's-mouth-and-shout "Eat THIS!!" Hicks?
Or haven't you seen that movie?

Venom_uk

11-08-2004, 06:48 PM

The Navigator

11-08-2004, 06:50 PM

Ummm....dosn't ring a bell no....:o

Ah, well. He's a Colonial Marine in a SciFi movie and has a cool gun. And he looks good sitting on my desk.

But I suggest you rent both Alien and Aliens today--but not Alien 3 or Resurrection--those movies sucked. And then imagine Venom as the Alien (or, in the sequel, as one of the Aliens). I think you'll like it. ;)

Venom_uk

11-08-2004, 06:53 PM

Ah, well. He's a Colonial Marine in a SciFi movie and has a cool gun. And he looks good sitting on my desk.

But I suggest you rent both Alien and Aliens today--but not Alien 3 or Resurrection--those movies sucked. And then imagine Venom as the Alien (or, in the sequel, as one of the Aliens). I think you'll like it. ;)
I've seen resurrection, kinda liked it :o lol

Havn't seen all of the others though, only bits & bobs.

The Navigator

11-08-2004, 07:02 PM

Well, I'm off. Hopefully will have some parts (plural) up tomorrow. :D

Venom_uk

11-08-2004, 07:04 PM

Look forward to it Rabbit :):up:

CKayote

11-08-2004, 10:24 PM

So, did anyone else pick up the 'Venom Saga' DVD today, or am I on my own? lolNope. Need Money.

*Goes out to check the price*

Apparently it's not out in the States.

CKayote@worldnet.att.net

The Navigator

11-09-2004, 09:07 AM

Part 3:
It was another week before he dared showing his face in school again....along with his photo and case against Paul.
The Headmistress, of course, made sure he was sent right to her office. Her son was waiting along with her, sitting next to her desk like a bird of prey.
"What are you hoping to gain here, Edward?" she asked him, removing her glasses and tossing them on the copies of the sole picture in his possession. "Do you really think you can blackmail your own teacher? That's illegal, you know."
She's got a funny sense about what's illegal.
"I could also file for assault against you, where you hit my knee," she went on. "Claim you threw a rock at my window, barged in here and tried to cripple me."
"And what about my face?" Eddie asked her, tired of being on the defensive. "You think a court isn't going to listen about how you beat me--especially with that paddle that they could match up to the bruises."
Hoping for some show of discouragement, Eddie was dismayed when she only smiled. "Hardly, dear. A blunt object is a blunt object. And single fathers are known for child abuse."
Eddie looked down, in despondancy....when he saw her hand.
"They could identify you by your ring," he said.
"Come again?"
"Your class ring. You wore it yesterday, and it makes a certain kind of bruise. They'll know it was you."
Her face grew stormy, and Eddie's hopes were beginning to soar.
"What do you want? Not that I don't know," she snarled. "Money...extortion."
"Keep your money," Eddie said. "I just want you gone."
"Or you'll flash these photocopies to the police? You can't positively identify Paul in those pictures, you know. You can't prove beyond a shadow of a doubt that it was him."
"I don't just have the photo....or these bruises....or your broken window. I also have a witness."
"Who?"
"Anne. One of Paul's favorites. Isn't that right....you little rapist?"
Paul clenched a fist and slowly came around from the other side of the desk. Eddie just smirked.
"What are you going to do, Paulie? Hit me? Like you hit her?"
"You can't scare me," he fumed. "Or my mom."
"Your mom scares enough people by herself."
"Shut up!" Paul drew back his fist, and Eddie leaned close, getting right up in his face....and grinned.
"Do that," he said, very softly, "and I won't just bash your brains in....but I'll eat them, too."
Paul, completely convinced, almost fell back into one of the chairs, his face white with stark terror. The Headmistress herself had a similar expression.
"Child of the beast," she said softly, as if in holy reverance. "You are a spawn of the devil."
"Well. I'm not the only one," Eddie said, and turned to go.
"You can't frighten me! A bride of Christ!" she shouted after him. He stopped, the door halfway open, and turned to her.
"I'm giving you until noon tomorrow," Eddie said. "Or the police find out, and then the wedding's off."
And he left, closed the door behind him...and let out a long, shuddery gasp. He had stared down the devil....and she had blinked.
Still, he couldn't afford to enjoy his temporary victory. He had to get home.

The next day, Headmistress Wilkes resigned her fifteen-year tenure and put her house up for sale.
"It's the neighborhood, mostly," she said, when she was asked by the board why she was moving. "Too little privacy around here."
She refused to comment on where she would be teaching next, or what events she was referring to.

"I was thrilled," Eddie told the priest. A distant smile came across him as he dug through his memories. "She was going away, where she couldn't hurt me anymore."
"I can imagine the joy you must have felt," the priest said, a little distractedly.
"Oh, yes," Eddie grinned. "I told Anne about it, and she wept with happiness for a half hour."
"I can imagine your father was pleased."
Eddie looked back at the priest.

Eddie burst through the door, nearly taking it off its hinges, and shouted, "Dad! Dad! I did it, I did it!"
"I'm in here," his father said from the living room. "And there's certainly no need to shout."
Eddie ran into the living room, dropping his bookbag onto the hall rug and nearly jumping with joy.
"I got her, Dad! I did it! She moved away! She's.....you're not happy," he slowed, realization emerging in his voice.
"No," said his father stonily, "I am not."
"H...how come, Dad?"
"I told you to focus on the big picture, Eddie, not the little details."
"But...I did." Eddie was sorely confused and bewildered. "Didn't I?"
"No, you didn't. She's moving, Eddie."
"Right.....moving away."
"Moving away to somewhere else....where she can hurt more kids, and pull this same stunt over and over."
"Oh....."
"Yeah, oh. I thought I told you to go to the police after you talked to her. Show them what you had. Not much maybe, but enough to start an investigation."
"But that....would be wrong. I said I'd give her--"
"You gave her time to run and hide!" his father suddenly shouted, and Eddie cringed back from the noise. He hated loud noises. "And she gladly did it--running under another rock like a rat instead of paying for her crimes. And you let her, son. Simple as that."
"I....I didn't know..."
"No, you didn't think, that's what you didn't do. You didn't see ahead....Eddie, you've got to change the rules of the game in these kinds of situations. Win no...matter...what. Ends and means."
"What about...Jesus?"
"What about Jesus, he says. What about Paul's next target? His next girl? Or the one after that? Or the one after that, Eddie? You just remember that you're responsible for all those girls, Eddie. It's on your head."
Eddie started to shiver. The stress that had been building was too much, and he started to break down. He collapsed to his knees, trying to hide from his shame and guilt.
"I didn't.....I didn't know what to do...." Eddie cried.
"No, you did," his father hissed. "But you couldn't do it. You were weak, Eddie. Weak....and pathetic."
Without another word, he left the room. Eddie cried for another sixteen minutes, and when he ran out of tears and energy, he looked up at the framed picture of Jesus Christ his father kept on the wall.
I won't be weak again, Eddie said. I promise I won't.

"It's hard to remember much after that," Eddie said. "Most of the rest of grade school is a blur--even up until high school and the first year of college."
"What did you study in college?" the priest asked.
"Writing classes," Eddie smiled. "Newspaper writing. I figured Dad was right about that--politics were too full of red tape and civil services and charities leaned heavily on public donations. A newspaper was the best candidate for getting long-term work in."
"What happened after the first year of college that makes it significant?"
"Two things, actually..."

"Weclome to the Daily Bugle, Eddie," said the Assistant Editor, Robbie Robertson. Eddie was so taken with the city room--activity everywhere, new leads coming in by the second--that he missed Robbie's comment.
"I'm sorry, Mister Robertson," he said. "I missed that." Robbie laughed.
"I said, 'Welcome to the Daily Bugle.' Is this your first internship?"
"Oh, uh...yes," Eddie said, a little sheepishly. "Is it that obvious?"
"Nothing to be ashamed of. We can always spot the new ones, anyway. Have you ever seen a city room before?"
"No...."
"Well, it's really just a bunch of cubicles strung together with a very overworked copy boy running back and forth all day. But we call it the 'war room.'"
"Why do you call it the war room?" Eddie asked as the Editor-in-Chief's door banged open.
"Robbie!" came the lion roar from within. "Get over here, and bring that new kid with ya!"
The door slammed again and Eddie looked at Mr. Robertson, not the least bit chagrined or mortified. "Any other questions?" Robbie asked, smiling.
Eddie didn't.
Robbie led him over to the Editor-in-Chief's office, which slammed open again as they approached.
"There you are," the editor said. "I've been calling you for ten minutes!"
"Ten minutes?" Eddie asked, but Robbie shushed him, and turned to the editor.
"Sorry about that, Jonah," Robbie said. "Here's the new intern: Eddie Brock."
"Brock, huh?" Jonah said, pulling in a puff from his cigar...and then blowing it out into Eddie's face. Eddie resisted the urge to cough, and Jonah nodded approvingly.
"He can take the smoke. He'll do," Jonah commented.
"Jonah," Robbie said, "We need to go over Ben's expose that's on page seven."
"Oh, not Ben again. The man's got more conspiracy theories than most cabbies."
"He might be onto something with Fisk here..."
They began to walk away, and as much as Eddie wanted to follow, he didn't want to interrupt what seemed to be an important conversation....but that left him lost and alone.
"Well," Eddie said to himself, "I suppose I could just wander around..."
"No need for that," said a new voice. He turned to see a beautiful redhead amongst the reference stacks. She was familiar....and then she smiled.
"Anne," Eddie said, smiling himself now. "It's been forever, hasn't it?"
"It's always longer than it seems," she replied. "I take it you're interning here as well."
"Oh, yes....I'm working to be a reporter."
"That's a coincidence," she said. "I'm going to be a lawyer."
"Are you serious?" Eddie asked, a little mortified.
"Of course not," she said. "If I was, why would I be here?"
Eddie sighed in relief. Of course she wouldn't be. She was Anne, after all.
"So, Eddie....," she smiled at him. Her smile was full of promise and rememberence. "How's my perfect been doing these last years?"
"Well....." All at once he was lost for woods, which was very unusal, considering his ideal profession. "I don't know where to begin. And I'm so....I'm so new to this all, I'm a little lost."
"Well," she said, leaning over to him, putting a thick book full of clippings back into its space. "Maybe....we could discuss it over dinner."
"I think....I think that could work."
"Perfect.....perfect," she said, turning this last word into a name. Then she left him alone again...but no longer lost.

"It went very well from there," Eddie told the priest. "I graduated college with honors, and was now part-timing at the Bugle as a copy boy. I moved to a small apartment in the city, very close to a crime-ridden area...so I got quite a few stories very quickly.
"I got a lot of retribution in, as well."
"Retribution," the priest said.
"Yes," Eddie said. "I recorded the crimes...and stopped them by any means necessary."
"I see."
"Yes. I think you really do," Eddie said. "But it didn't satisfy me. I wasn't taking it to the source....I was only taking out the details. And then Jonah showed me an editorial he wanted to spell-check...and then I found my source. I didn't know it then, of course....but later. Much, much later..."
"The editorial...what was it about?"
"Spider-Man. It was Jonah's first editorial about Spider-Man."
One could hear the heat baking from his voice....his mind. The priest didn't seem to notice.
"A momentous occasion, no doubt," he said, almost bored.
"Oh, yes," Eddie seethed. "I learned that Jameson may have been full of it on many things...but not Spider-Man. I tracked the wallcrawler's career, every paper wrote on him I pinned to my wall or put in a binder.
"And I stared at the pictures."
"For hours?"
"Yes....on one occasion it stretched into a day. A day memorizing every bit of theory, every editorial, every grain on the pictures."
"Pictures taken by Peter Parker."
"Parker......yes. Peter Parker," he said very, very softly. "I didn't make the connection at first, of course...not until later. After I had transferred to the Globe thanks to that day....and, of courwse, after I had a very important talk with Anne..."

"This is a beautiful restaurant, Eddie....are you sure we can afford it?" Anne asked. It was indeed very elegant, the kind of place where the prices tended to routinely run into three figures. The lighting was a little subdued, the brightness caused only by candles and the reflections off chilling wine bottles.
"Of course," Eddie said. "I've got someone here I need to interview, and I'll just charge it to the Globe."
"You don't mean that, do you?" she asked tentatively. "I thought it was supposed to be a night for us."
"And it is," Eddie said quickly. "I was kidding."
Anne sighed, relieved. "I should have known," she breathed. "You're too good a man for that."
He nodded and held her close as a maitre 'd approached. In truth, he had planned to complain of a "stomach ache" midway through the meal and make a very short interview with someone who had wanted to give him a tip. He might still be able to do it...
"Your table, sir," the waiter said, snapping Eddie out of his haze. Eddie thanked the man and Anne, resplendent in her flowing blue dress, had sat down across from him. "So," she asked, "what should we order? Something special?"
She squeezed his hand gently....but with a certain amount of energy to it.
"Oh," he replied, "of course. No expenses spared."
"What does that mean?" she teased, being a little coy noy.
"It means," Eddie said....and then he found that his voice was dry. He cleared his voice and started again. "It means....that, uh...."
"For a reporter, you don't say things very well." She smiled. That killer smile.
"I'm fine when I'm writing," he said, smiling back. "Just not when I'm around....a fiance."
"A fiance?" she asked, confused. Then he pulled out that velvet box and her mouth fell open. It made Eddie feel slightly more confident. He opened the box and inside was a handsome, but somewhat modest, diamond ring. Anne covered her agape mouth with a hand, leaving only her plate-sized eyes.
"Anne," he asked, practiced but nervous, "will you....marry me?" He finished this last in a rush and sucked in a breath in anticipation. Her eyes, if that was possible, got wider. Then she suddenly leaned over and gave him a kiss so powerful he had to put a hand on the table to avoid falling over.

"She said yes, of course," the priest said.
"The happiest evening of my life," Eddie agreed.
"Not the wedding night?"
Eddie gave him a feral smile. "Well....after that, of course."
"So you went to tell your dad the news, right?"
"Right," Eddie said, and his face grew darker.

"Dad!" Eddie said, opening the door to the small apartment. The lights were dimmed...maybe he was watching a movie. He tended to do that a lot nowadays, as well as drink....which was what Eddie found him doing.
"Dad, you can't afford that and you know it," he said.
"They can shove their fixed income up the bunghole, Eddie," his father said. "You don't stand between a man and his Miller. So....what's the occasion?"
"I just got engaged!" he exulted. His father stood up, congratulated him, and affirmed him for the first time in his life.
In his mind.
"To who?" came the cautious question instead.
"To....to Anne. I told you about her. Remember?
"No," his father said curtly. "Oh, it might have been in one of those letters....but frankly, those look too much like my bills and I just chuck the whole stack. Maybe if you came to visit more often."
"Maybe," Eddie said, a little angry and sad.
"And marriage now.....terrible idea," his father said, taking a swig of liquor. "She's gonna move in with you? Maybe get a job so you don't get any more broke than you are? Those reporter's salaries don't cover much, from what I hear. Too bad you're not an assistant editor."
"Too bad."
"And, of course, there's the rising divorce rate....and the adultery--"
"Are you going to come to the wedding or not?"
"Oh.....I'm not sure if I should encourage this or not. On the one hand, tradition demands it. But if I go, I might be giving you an incentive to take more risky and foolhardy endeavors."
"Dad, I've never done a risky and foolhardy endeavor in my life."
"Headmistress Wilkes doesn't count then, huh?"
"That....that was different."
"Moving into a crime-spree area?"
Eddie didn't say anything.
"Or getting engaged to someone I haven't met and will probably turn out to be a sl--"
"Goodbye, Dad," Eddie said, and left. He slammed the door behind him.
"Idiot kid. Settles for less every chance he can get," his dad said.
Eddie broke done and wept in the elevator.
His father drank.
Again.

The Navigator

11-09-2004, 09:08 AM

Part 4:

"I remember two things about the wedding," Eddie said. "The first thing is the bride.
"The second thing was the empty seat in the first row."
He paused, sucked in a breath. The priest waited.
"But I try to forget that....and remember the wedding night instead. Good times we had together. The best, actually."
"You still followed Spider-Man's career, even while you were married?"
"Yes," Eddie said, not surprised at all by the priest's question. And why should he be?
"You were busy, weren't you," the priest said.
"Oh, yes. But it was right after the honeymoon that a new vigilante emerged in New York. We didn't know the details then, but he wore a stolen police badge and dispatched his victims with a shotgun.
"His name was the Sin-Eater."

"Eddie," the Globe's editor, Michael Hicks said to him. He was a head shorter than Brock and had about half the hair. "I'm getting nothing from my reporters on this guy. Sin-Eater. He's hot stuff, too....ex-cop? Cop-killer?"
"I know that Captain DeWolff's been missing for a while...probably where he got the badge," Eddie replied. "But I don't know who he is any more than the other reporters."
"Let's set our false modesty aside, Eddie," Hicks said. "I know from experience you've got connections out there...something different. I don't know how deep it goes, and I don't care. You get the unique angle, Brock, stuff nobody else even thinks of. I swear, it's like you're inside these guys' heads or something."
Their brains...
"So you know what I want," Hicks said. He rubbed a hand through his bald spot.
"Yes," Eddie said.
"Go get it, then," Michael said, and waved him out of the office.
Eddie left the office, having no idea where to go to investigate. And then, an idea struck.

"Captain Carter?" Eddie stuck out his hand, and it was taken by the grizzled police captain.
"That's me," Carter said. "Ordinarily, I'd have you call me Stan, but regulations of politeness don't permit me."
Eddie was unsure of whether to laugh or not. It had seemed like a joke...
"Ah, well, it cracks up some people," Stan said. "Cigarette?"
"Don't smoke," Eddie replied.
"First reporter I met who didn't," Carter chuckled. It was a strange chuckle, though, almost segmented and halting--like a video being played one frame at a time.
"I suppose you know why I'm here," Eddie said, and Carter's smile turned to a grimace.
"Sin-Eater," Carter said. "He's killed my partner, Captain DeWolff...." He seemed on the verge of tears at this last, but Eddie couldn't understand why. Perhaps he was closer to Ms. Dewolff than he thought....he'd have to check on it.
"I understand you've brought Spider-Man into the investigation," Eddie said, unable to completely keep the loathing out of his voice. Carter seemed to blank for a moment...but then frowned, irked.
"I dislike working with vigilantes," Carter growled. "Personally....I'd like to string him up. But he's gotten results with the 'supervillian' crowd....and a cop-killer makes people nervous. We need to bed this one as quick as we can."
"Even if it means working with a suspected murderer?" Eddie asked, almost provocatively. Stan smiled.
"We've all murdered a little, Eddie," he said, which was an extremely strange remark by Eddie's lights. "Our own little ways...if it puts your mind at ease," he commented, snapping back to normalcy, "if anyone's going to be doing the killing, you can be sure the bug's going to be under the gun."
"I'm glad to hear that," Eddie said, and then bit his tongue.
"Yes....so am I," Carter said. Eddie frowned and decided to leave. While he admired Carter, the man could be really strange.
As soon as he was outside the office, Eddie nearly smacked himself. He'd gotten nothing of value out of that interview--he hadn't even asked the obligatory question about following leads. He frowned. He wasn't usually this sloppy...
"A fluke," Eddie said. "One-time deal."
Better hope so, Eddie...Sin-Eater's not going to let you get away with mistakes.
"Too true," Eddie said.

He blanked out for the next forty minutes.
When he "woke up," he was standing in the doorway of his apartment, his hands hurt, and blood was on his clothes.
Oh, my....this has never happened to me before...
Not to worry, Eddie....I've got everything well in hand.
Who...who are you? What did you do?
I'm your buried things, Eddie....I'm your repressions.
What did you do?!
I found out some things....like the court date for some hoods Spider-Man captured.
But what did you DO?!
Whatever was necessary.
Then all was silent. Eddie broke out into a cold sweat.
"Eddie? Is that you?"
It was Anne in the next room. Dear God, it was Anne and she would see him with blood on his clothes and then she would know he wasn't perfect and that he had been bad not perfect at all not perfect or good or innocent or
"Nnnnnggghhh....." Eddie groaned. He was coming apart, and he knew it.
"Eddie?"
"I'm....fine!" he said, forcing cheerfulness into his voice. "I have to step out for a little while."
"But you just got here."
"I know--I just have to take some clothes to the laundromat."
He was amazed at how easy lying was--he had never lied to Anne before in or before their marriage. He sensed this lie had come from somewhere behind, somewhere wrong....
Somewhere black.
He shook his head quickly, grabbed some clothes, and went out the door.

He came home after washing his clothes clean, drying them, and plastering a smile onto his face that he didn't feel.
Neither did she.

It was a week later, the court date for the captured thugs, that Eddie showed up on the front steps.
The door burst open. Eddie was expecting to see one of the attorneys.
He got the Sin-Eater instead.
GET him
He was started to move....when Spider-Man lept down in front of him. He shoved Brock back into the crowd without a word. Dressed as black as death, with only a white spider across his chest and blank, all-seeing eyes, it was little wonder the public feared Spider-Man.
"I'm going to tear you apart," Spider-Man said.....apparently to the Sin-Eater. "Shooting a judge..."
He shot a judge?
Then Eddie saw that the Sin-Eater was about to move, and unexpectedly, shot up a prayer as time seemed to slow.
Please....Spider-Man, let me be wrong about you....save everyone. Prove that I was wrong. Prove you are innocent.
The Sin-Eater lifted the double-barrel shotgun, the glint sparking off the moving barrels....
Spider-Man tensed, and the Sin-Eater levelled the gun.
Spider-Man began to jump, and the Sin-Eater tightened his grip around the trigger.
Ba-BOOM
Time snapped back to normal. Eddie saw both Sin-Eater and Spider-Man, frozen. Neither had been hurt. Then, what--?
Then Eddie saw the man next to him. His chest had imploded in on itself, red beginning to spread across his chest. Eddie watched in horror as the man, completely innocent of the whole affair, fell to the ground. There was a sickly thud as his lifeless head smacked the pavement. Eddie stared at the man, completely in shock, and then turned to Spider-Man.
The slayer of innocents. The destroyer of all things good and decent.
The murderer.

He was in his office some hours later, trying to make sense of the whole affair. Spider-Man had escaped, of course. Wouldn't want the police catching him after he'd allowed someone to shoot a hapless reporter.
Of course. He buried his head in his heads.
And the phone rang. Eddie looked at it...and picked up the cradle, put it to his ear.
"This is Eddie Brock's office," he heard someone else deep down in him saying, "Daily Globe."
"This....God, I don't even know how to start," came the shuddery voice on the other end of the line.
"Don't use the Lord's name in vain, " Eddie said, that old command rehearsedly coming from him. "And try quickly. This is a newspaper, not a confessional."
"I'm the Sin-Eater."
Eddie held the phone away from his ear, not knowing whether to laugh, yell or cry. He pulled it back to his ear with an effort.
"I saw what you did today," Eddie said softly and very, very angrily. "I saw that shot."
"I know, I just--I--I don't--"
"Don't you dare waste my time! Prove you're the Sin-Eater or get off my damn phone!!"
"The judge's name who I shot was Horace Rosenthal."
"Horse****!! You could have plucked that name from anywhere! I want some proof!"
"I shot Jean DeWolff," came the voice on the other end. Eddie snapped up. That hadn't been released yet in any paper he knew of. They were going to hold it off until the funeral. This could be authentic.
"With what?" Eddie asked.
"A double-barreled shotgun. Remington, maple stock, cobalt blue steel casing."
Eddie conceded. This almost had to be the Sin-Eater. No one could have figured out the model of the gun from just one view....unless they were holding it.
But what do I do, Lord? I want to come through the phone and strangle this....this....butcher! And after him....Spider-Man.
All those who come before the Lord are worthy of redemption.
But, this--!
All, Eddie.
Eddie paused for a moment, thought. Then he put the receiver back to his ear.
"Talk," Eddie said. "Tell me everything."

"And he did," Eddie said to the priest. "Everything he could, anyway. He talked eagerly, spilling everything he thought was worth my while...and some that wasn't, butI let him confess. I wrote down everything, and ran a series of 'Sine-Eater Confessions' sessions to the Editor. They were one of the most popular features run in the paper's history.
"But the Editor kept wanting to know my sources. As popular as these were, they had to be verified, double-checked. I kept promising him I would get the source and kept putting it off....until it was too late. I had to get it, and I did.
"The man's name was Emil Gregg."

"Congratulations, Eddie," Hicks said to him. "This has sold out all printings....the first time in five years. I think you're going to go places, Eddie."
"Well, thank you, Mr. Hicks," Eddie said, smiling. He was a little too drunk, but he liked the feeling. Everyone had come by his desk, congratulating him for the past half-hour. Some got a few celebratory glasses of champagne....and Eddie, of course, had taken them. It was late, but he didn't care. He had won a huge victory in the power of the press, and he felt it was deserved.
He felt a hand resting on his shoulder, and looked up, expecting to see Mr. Hicks again.
It was his father.
"Dad," Eddie said, straightening up instantly. He was caught again, he hadn't looked at the big--
"Eddie," his father said, interrupting his train of thought. "I just heard the news."
"I know," Eddie said, hanging his head. "I didn't--"
"I also saw....who wrote the news."
Eddie looked up slowly, uncomprehending.
"You did it, Eddie," his father said. He smiled and patted him on the shoulder. "You put the bad guy away. I just heard they captured him at the Bugle. You won. And
I'm proud....proud to have you as my son."
Eddie's mouth hung agape. This....this had never happened before.
"I just thought you should know," his dad said. "In person."
"Well, thank you, sir...I....I don't know what to say."
"I know," his dad said. "That's why I'll read what you say in the morning edition."
And, flashing him one last smile, left.
Eddie sat down, in a shock.
And then began to laugh long and hard, and he mingled tears with the laughter, and judged it good.
An hour later, he had driven home, kissed his wife good night, and went to bed a happy man for the first time in a long time.
An hour and a half later, everything went straight to hell.

CKayote

11-09-2004, 01:00 PM

Really good man. Really good.

CKayote@worldnet.att.net

Venom_uk

11-09-2004, 01:28 PM

*claps*

Fair play Rabbit, I really enojoyed reading that. :)
I don't usually read fanfics of any kind, but this is deffinatly worth the read :up:

Might I suggest that you proved links to the other parts of your fanfic though so thoughs that havn't read it can catch up easily.

Anyway, damn good job again Rabbit. Love it.

p.s. How many more parts are there to this & how far are you planningon doing with this?

fever red

11-09-2004, 02:25 PM

Rabbit, this is darkening fast- and the extreme new aspects of the story really make it fresh and unsettling. Eddie's black-out- that's a nice touch. I think having him schizophrenic, with a separate persona that talks to him, is a whole new wierdness- now who's to say that it's even the symbiote talking to him once they've bonded? Maybe it's just the progression of the mental disease. I think it rocks that he's ALREADY obsessed with Spidey.
Whoa, Eddie's CRAZY. D@mn. I mean, I knew he had taken a few trial separations from reality in the comics, but this is more intense. However, it's also completely plausable. I relate more to a less extreme Brock, but I'm just as fascinated by this version.
The dialogue is so good; Brock's interaction with Emil Gregg in the first phone call is very natural and really solidifies the work you've done on charactorizing him as Catholic.

Venom_uk

11-09-2004, 03:21 PM

WHOO HOO!!!

My Venom back-issues have just arrived by courier!!! :D At 9.20pm no less. lol

Lots of Venom to read now :D

*does happy Venom dance*

:venom:

The Navigator

11-09-2004, 03:40 PM

Thanks, everybody---wow, I had no idea you guys would enjoy it so much!

There's at least 3 installments left, I think....maybe four depending on how "writerly" I'm feeling. If you loved what's come before, I guarantee you'll like what comes next...

I'm debating whether or not to post it now, later, tomorrow....:venom:

Symbiotica

11-09-2004, 03:41 PM

Corporal Hicks. From Aliens. Filmed in the UK, dontcha know. ;) You know, Mister Stick-the-shotgun-in-the-Alien's-mouth-and-shout "Eat THIS!!" Hicks? Or haven't you seen that movie?

Are you talking about the McFarlane "Movie Maniacs" Cpl. Hicks figure? I just got mine yesterday, he is sooooooooooooooooooooo coooooool! I love him, even if he does look kinda like William Shatner :gg: I haven't taken him out of his clamshell yet, not doing that till I get action-figure shelf #2 set up: hopefully, this weekend.

UK, the best Alien movies are definitely the original and "Aliens", the second in the series... Resurrection SUCKS compared to them. Check them out, they're really worth seeing.

The Navigator

11-09-2004, 03:43 PM

Got that right, Symbiotics--and I just got him today! :beam: Ah.....Hicks...

Symbiotica

11-10-2004, 01:42 PM

[regarding recent events in MK-SM #8] :

NO!

No, no no no no no no no no no no no,

NOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOO!

Say it isn't so! OMG! How could they do this to us!???

Venom_uk

11-10-2004, 01:45 PM

[regarding recent events in MK-SM #8] :

NO!

No, no no no no no no no no no no no,

NOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOO!

Say it isn't so! OMG! How could they do this to us!???
What what what???

WTF thoughs b******s gone & done to Venom now?!? :mad::(

The Navigator

11-10-2004, 03:30 PM

Yes, do tell me so I can start another fanfic dealing with the matter.

Symbiotica

11-10-2004, 03:47 PM

Venom_uk

11-10-2004, 04:04 PM

Eddie is allegedly DEAD by his own hand, no less [he cut his wrists] in MK #8.

I can't believe they actually did it.

All I can say is he better have some of the symbiote in his blood a la Carnage..... but one good thing to go along with the bad, too: at least the symbiote abandoned that little dweeb [in midair, no less], just like we speculated it would. SPLAT! I knew that little moron did not have what it took to host a symbiote! Knew it.

I have not yet seen the book, but that's what they're saying happened over in the comics forum.
:eek:

*claps* Yeah, nice work Marvel. Good job! :rolleyes:

I'm so, so, so glad that that little gimp, the 'wannabe' Venom went splat!
I love the Symbiote SOOOOOO much for doing that!

Shame about the other thing though. Real shame....OMG!!! Am I gonna have to rename the 'Club House'!!! :eek: Nah...Don't think so some how ;):up:

Eddie has been 'dead' before though remember. The Symbiote covered him & acted as a cold, 'dead' layer so that everyone would think he was dead. & remeber in 'The Hunger' arc (SSM) the Venom symbiote was about to give birth. So what if Eddie kept his original Symbiote, sold the offspring to make some money, knowing that it wouldn't except its host, fakes own death. He lives, keeps Symbiote & is filthy filthy rich, & no one is none the wiser. ;):up:

Thats what I HOPE will happen anyway! lol

CKayote

11-10-2004, 04:05 PM

Hmmm.

*leans over to comfort Symbiotica*
Maybe the Symbiote will journey to the Negative Zone and get a new Brock that was exactly like the old one.

Or they'll clone him. Or an experimental medical treatment will bring him back to life. Or someone will go back in time. Or....... whatever the hell they come up with. It's a comic book. No one's dead forever.

CKayote@worldnet.att.net

The Navigator

11-10-2004, 04:13 PM

Part 5 (I think):

It was seven o'clock when Eddie woke up, and it was eight when he was called into the office by the editor. Between those two times, he showered, shaved, dressed, kissed his sleepy wife good-bye and drove to the Globe.
As soon as he reached his cubicle, he saw the post-it by Hicks' secretary:
BOSS WANTS TO SEE YOU RIGHT AWAY
Fine with Eddie. He probably wanted to discuss an office relocation....perhaps something that resided in a corner of the building. Or maybe he was going to add another zero to his paycheck.
He was so jovial that he completely missed the moinous frown on Hicks' face as he went in.
"Hello, Mr. Hicks," Eddie smiled. Hicks looked at him from over his glasses.
"Sit down, Eddie."
Eddie did, never having been in Hicks' office for long, and taking a little while to admire the surroundings. After a few moments, his eyes met those of Hicks, and his face fell.
"Who is the Sin-Eater, Eddie?" Hicks asked.
Confused, Eddie stammered, "Emil Gregg."
"Guess again."
"W-what?"
"Daredevil and Spider-Man searched police captain Stan Carter's home, Eddie. Guess what they found."
No....it's not possible.
"The Sin-Eater's costume and gun....as well as Jean DeWolff's badge."
No....no, no, no!!
"So...who's the Sin-Eater, Eddie?"
Eddie couldn't speak. Hicks took off his glasses and smacked them down on the desk.
"Tell me, dammit!" he shouted. "Because we've got several million morning editions out there that say your buddy Emil's the one killing cops and shooting up reporters. Too bad all the evidence points to Stan Carter!"
"I....I guess I don't know."
"Well...you do now, don't you?"
Eddie lowered his head, mouth agape. None of this was happening.
After a long pause, Hicks put on his glasses, turned away from Eddie, and began to read a file. "You've got twenty minutes to clear out your things," Hicks told him, and Eddie knew his life had just been ruined.

He drove from the office, with two cardboard boxes filled with his miscellaneous stuff. He had been fired.
He had just...been...fired.
And over what? Over a mistake. All it had been. Just a simple mistake anyone could have made, and they were giving him the axe.
He pulled up to his father's apartment as someone was coming out. Very graciously, Eddie held the door open for the man, and then let himself in. Dad would understand. His father wasn't a stupid person by any means. He'd know this was all a mistake.
Eddie knocked on the door. After a time, it opened, and Eddie's father, surly, unshaven, and probably drunk, answered.
"Dad," Eddie breathed.
And then his father said three words that completely shattered him:
"Who are you?"
There was a moment of perfect silence. Not a thing moved in the world, forzen in mid-air.
And then it all came crashing down at once, falling to earth and destroying itself, end over end. Eddie never remembered leaving the apartment, getting into his car, and driving home. Nor did he recall pulling over after seeing a mugging in progress, and accosting the thieves, beraking their necks, and shouting into one of his victim's cold faces, "Tell me it's worth it! Dammit, tell me!!"

But he remembered being home. He remembered making hot, passionate love to his wife for one last time before he told her everything that had happened--at least, everything he remembered.
"I....I don't understand," she whispered. Her voice was small and weak...like the voice he had first heard long ago.
"It just means I've got to get another job, that's all," Eddie told her.
"But what about this...this story?"
"somebody made a mistake," Eddie informed her. "It'll all come out."
She looked at him nervously.
"It will," he said. "You'll see."

It finally all came down three weeks later.
He ahd found another job, as he had promised--at the Weekly World News. A tabloid.
It ingratiated everything that he stood for that he, once a famous reporter--and now an infamous one--would have to stoop so low as to telling stories like this just to keep his ehad above water. The water that he had been thrown into like Jonah of long ago....and the whale that threatened to come and swallow him.
Three weeks of this, and he thought it couldn't get any worse.
And then, of course, it had.

"Eddie?"
It was Anne. He came into, having just gotten home from work, set down his briefcase, and went into the bedroom.
The first thing he saw were the two suitcases she held.
"Anne," he said very tiredly, "you know we can't afford a vacation right now."
"I'm leaving, Eddie."
He stopped. Surely that hlast sentence was a glitch in the equipment, an error somehow.
"To where?" He refused to believe what he was hearing--living.
"My sister's, I think.. She lives in Pennsylvania."
"Pennsylvania," he said, sitting down on the bed they had slept in together.. The bed where they had wondered whether to have children.
"Yes."
"Why?"
"You said you'd be my perfect, Eddie. Forever and always. And I can't take this anymore. Everyone laughs at you, saying I was a fool to marry such a failure....I thought you were my protector. And you...weren't."
"Anne....I tried, didn't I?"
"Yews. Yes, you did. But you lost, Eddie. And that's why I have to go."
She took the suitcases, gave him one last kiss, and walked through the open door, not looking back.
It's not gonna last. She's coming back here. I know it.
Twenty minutes dragged past.
Then forty.
An hour.
And, being supremely confident she was on her way home, Eddie began to gather all the things that she had left behind. Absolutely sure she would come back sailing into his arms, Eddie put those things into a pile. And, knowing for a fact she had not just left him, that she hadn't dared leave him, he set the pile on fire.
And he screamed.
It was a scream that contained every repressed hurt, every feeling wounded, every bit of pride snubbed and emotion smashed. It was a scream that stretched back to the days of his childhood, and the hurts he could never express. It was a scream of sorrow, and deep, bottomless pain.
He breathed in the fire of the ultimate purge.
He breathed in the flames of purification.
He breathed in the burn.

He awoke in a tenement, and it was several hours later than it ahd been in his apartment. He did not know this. He didn't know what he had done, drank, or eaten since he had been "out."
But in the final analysis, did it really matter? Everything was gone.
Absolutely everything.
He got up, noticing his clothes were torn adn that all the newspaper clippings had been moved into this tenement. But njothing else. He walked out of the building, noticed the sun was setting. How perversely appropriate.
Eddie dragged himself through the streets, ignoring the glances of pedestrians, the gawking of neighbors. They weren't important. He just had to get to one place.
And eventually he did. He crawled up the steps to St. Mary's church--which had been closed recently. Closed for good. As a result, there was a lock on the front door.
Sorry...but God and I need to talk.
He picked up a big oak stick and began to absh at the lock, the way he watned to bash the Sin-Eater's head. He hit it and hit it and hit it until he smashed the wood through and the door opened. Inside was the church he had gone to every Sunday, had gotten married in, so long ago.
He pulled himself down the aisle, watching the reproachful glancesw of the disciples, etched in their confines of colored glass. Watching him.
He knelt at the foot of the cross and began to pray.
"Our Father, who aren't--art, art in heaven," he recovered, aghast he had made such a mistake. He began to pray more fervently, hoping against hope something good would come from this.
The sky began to change from amber to purple. The light was leaving him.
"No," he cried. "No, no, no...."
The ebginnings of night set in, and filled everything with darkness.
Except for one part....that was already dark.
Eddie hugged the cross, begging, "Please....don't leave me alone."
His prayers were answered.
A slick, black liquid came out of the shadows, caressed Eddie, and then--

Blackness
Alwasys Blackness
Always clod
Parker
Took the Pakrer loved him
Peter
Don't you see? I'd rather die than be a slave to you...
Peter abandoned everything
...with just one purpose: to...survive.
The bells of St. Mary
Ask not for whom the bell tolls
Used it to drive us apart
Tried to kill us
Not good enough, Eddie
Never good enough
Do not leave us as he did
Never leave us and we'll tell you the secrets
Secrets of the Spider
Secrets of the Parker
Never leave

Eddie screamed as the blackness consumed him, first from horror, then awe, and finally joy. The strength flowed over him....strength and powers beyond those of emre mortals. Strength that had existed behind the stars, before the sun began to burn.
Knowledge overcame him, secrets unlocked, the puzzle completed at last.
Secrets of the Spideer.
I, the Lord, have spoken...
Powers of the Spider.
And I will surely do these things...
Responsibility of the Spider.
They will meet their end in the desert. Here they will surely die.

Our father, who art in heaven...

"Yesssss," Eddie said, the blackness having consumed himm completely. Fangs came from the darkness, and a white spider, radiating with purity, emblazonwed itself across his chest.
"Yes," he said. "It's time to do something for dear....old....Dad."

The Navigator

11-10-2004, 04:15 PM

Don't worry, fellow Venomites....a fanfic is already forming within my mind....;)

Well, another fanfic. I'm going to have to finish this one first, and then....playtime! :venom:

Venom Drool

11-10-2004, 06:01 PM

:eek:

*claps* Yeah, nice work Marvel. Good job! :rolleyes:

I'm so, so, so glad that that little gimp, the 'wannabe' Venom went splat!
I love the Symbiote SOOOOOO much for doing that!

Shame about the other thing though. Real shame....OMG!!! Am I gonna have to rename the 'Club House'!!! :eek: Nah...Don't think so some how ;):up:

Eddie has been 'dead' before though remember. The Symbiote covered him & acted as a cold, 'dead' layer so that everyone would think he was dead. & remeber in 'The Hunger' arc (SSM) the Venom symbiote was about to give birth. So what if Eddie kept his original Symbiote, sold the offspring to make some money, knowing that it wouldn't except its host, fakes own death. He lives, keeps Symbiote & is filthy filthy rich, & no one is none the wiser. ;):up:

Thats what I HOPE will happen anyway! lol
great issue

but...but....eddie? nooo...
YES
he will be back..forgot about the venom's pawn from the hunger...muahahaha...spidey said he also MIGHT not live through the night. even if hes no longer venom. he might still be around. im happy. but were gonna get a new venom again soon...angelo went splat...yay for that too

live on eddie....live on...

Langoth

11-10-2004, 06:45 PM

What Marvel has done with Eddie is really pathetic... I wouldn't have minded Brock dying so much, IF HE DIDN'T DIE LIKE A WHIMP.

HONESTLY. Eddie should have been killed in combat, not in some alley where he cuts himself up. Its retarded, and its an insult to the badass character he was.

fever red

11-10-2004, 07:42 PM

About the spawn from the Hunger- what was the explanation for that? Initially, Brock had said the symbiotes produced one spawn per generation.

Venom Drool

11-10-2004, 08:00 PM

there has been to conclusion to that...

well find out eventually though...

Hobgoblin

11-10-2004, 08:06 PM

About the spawn from the Hunger- what was the explanation for that? Initially, Brock had said the symbiotes produced one spawn per generation.
Yeah, they've completely ignored that little fact. Maybe someone spiked Venoms coffee with some fertility drugs?

Venom Drool

11-10-2004, 08:20 PM

they havent ignored it. they havent dealt with it yet. they want us asking questions...

fever red

11-10-2004, 08:38 PM

No, no- I think it really is fertility drugs...seriously; it'll be an offhand explanation, such as, he's still affected by some procedure at the Life Foundation, or, it's another effect of Earth.
Thanks for letting me know how the storyline currently stands.

Venom Drool

11-10-2004, 08:45 PM

look...theres the hunger, missing what happened, MKspidey, and symbiote skips off with a maybe dead brock...umm...a whole lotta ifs in this storyline
way too many actually...
so dont get sarcastic for no reason

The Navigator

11-11-2004, 01:06 PM

OK, it's official.....Millar is on my vendetta list. And my retcon list, as well. B@stard...

The Navigator

11-11-2004, 02:06 PM

Part 6:

Miyamoto Sakai put his key in the Shlage, rattled it around until he was sure it was locked, and turned to go.
He got a feaceful of three-inch fangs and a two-foot long prehensile tongue. He screamed, expected the awful jaws to close down upon his head and swallow his skull whole. An agonizing two seconds later, he realized that wasn't going to happen and opened his eyes...slowly. The gaping jaws had withdrawn into the darkness, leaving only two blank, white eyes looking at him from the shadows.
"Sorry about the scare," came a voice, one that sounded like wind howling through glass shards....or knives. "I'm still new....to this. Hurts.....I noticed your store sells sporting equipment."
"Y-yes," Mr. Sakai said, pulling himself together. He was the manager, hor heaven's sake....constantly overworked. He must have just seen a hallucination...and in front of a customer, no less!
"That's better," the voice said, a little more normally. "I didn't mean to frighten you....would you mind if I looked around for a minute in your shop?"
"Well," Mr. Sakai said, a little emboldened now, "I just closed up for the night. I'm afraid you'll have to wait until morning."
"I don't want to WAIT!!" And then the eyes loomed from the shadows, along with the fangs...and tongue. Mr. Sakai dropped the keys and ran. He never again slept soundly.
"Weights," the voice said, almost tiredly. "I need....weights."

He dragged them back to his tenement--it took a long time and he had to stick to the shadows...but he made it. Every last pound.
Up the stairs.
One step at a time. Every....last....rotten....step.
And then...then the real work began.
He set up the bars first, making sure to place them on the driest part of the floor. Made sure they were steady, and then put the weights on the bar....more than he could have lifted before. He set up the bench, laid down on it, gripped the bar....and lifted.
Lifted them higher then he should have been able to.
And held them.
Maybe....just maybe....we can pull something good out of this after all. Maybe...
We? We. This is my life now....two lives.
Like Parker's.
He set down the weights, his expression clouding.
"Heavier," he said. "I need it to hurt."

And it did....for two days in a row, he lifted.
He was getting stronger....slowly. But surely, at least.
Stronger than the Spider.
Stronger than Parker.
The lights went out.
A scare tactic,,....that's what it was. But he merely set the weights back in the cradle, picked up his red flashlight, and illuminated the wall.
The wall of the spider.
It had been filled with every clipping he could find, from all the papers....every save, every fight, every editorial....it was all here. He didn't remember moving them....but he supposed he didn't need to. His life was different now.
This darkness that shrouds the city....is nothing compared to the one Spider-Man has pulled over our lives.
He'll get the same. It's only fitting. He'll get the same....very, very soon.

"I lifted weights for days on end," Eddie told the priest. "I thought about nothing else except pure hatred....revenge. And the growing power and knowledge."
"Knowledge of where Spider-Man lived, no doubt," the priest said.
"Yes..."

Eddie "awoke" at a place he had never been to and at once knew intimately: it was an apartment.
You shouldn't be here.
Eddie turned and saw a man he knew as well as these surroundings.
Hello, Ben.
This isn't your home, Eddie.
But it is....it's as much my home as it is Peter's.
But you're not him.
I'm him in all the ways that count.
Except for the responsibility. You have the power....but not the obligation.
An obligation your nephew shunned....one that wound up with you dead.
You're twisting everything, Eddie....justifying your insanity.
Good thing, too....otherwise, we wouldn't be talking, right?
"Ben" had nothing to say to that....and Eddie smiled.
That's what I thought.
You're poisoning your life, Eddie. As well as those around you.
Poisoning? No....not poison. Venom.
Can't you see what you're doing? How many people you're going to hurt?
Nothing compared to how many Spider-Man hurt...nothing compared to us.
Eddie....the responsibility. Think of those caught in the crossfire!
I've never stopped thinking of them, Ben. Can you say the same for your nephew?
"Ben" fell silent again...and faded into the mist.
Venom....that's what I am now. Toxic to criminals....poison to Spider-Man. Venom.
A key rattled in the apartment's lock, and Venom stood up, stepping back into the shadows. The door opened, a walkway of light upset by a single lithe figure..
A woman....Anne?
No....this wasn't Anne at all. Anne would never date such a fiend.
She waswa humming to herself, and spotted his eyes....and the spider.
"Oh, Peter!" she said, not sounding the least bit concerned. She knew him, then....good. "What are you doing sitting in the dark? Never mind, I've got a few nits to pick with--"
Venom began to move closer, blowing out the stench of this place as soon as he inhaled....the filth of the air.
"--Peter? Are you OK? Your breathing sounds funny. Are you all--"
Venom smiled slowly, shopwing every fang. Showing her his true nature.
"Oh God," she breathed.
"Hi, honey," Venom said, leaning in close, "...I'm home!"

She didn't know anything, Eddie.
Nope. The girlfriend didn't know where he was.
You didn't have to terrorize her.
This is who I am, Uncle Benjamin. Hey, how did the bullet feel as it shattered your ribs?
She's an innocent.
She knows who he is. She may even protect him. Frankly...I cut her a break.
You paralyzed her with fear.
Good thing, too....she might come to her sense yet.
You're a demon.
Oh, of course, Ben. The guy trying to do the right thing is a demon, no doubt bound for Hell. Well, I'll tell you something--I'm not going alone.
You can't do this, Eddie.
You're right. Because I already have. It's started, Ben....and neither one of us can stop it.
He went over to the weights and began to lift. Lifted until he couldn't hear the voices anymore.

He slept.
Woke up.
Kissed the wife who wasn't there goodbye and headed out the door.

fifteen minutes later, he saw a robbery in progress at the local conveniece sotre.
And where was Spider-Man?
Afraid and inept, hopefully.
Eddie watched as the two thieves fled the store, getting into their getaway car...a Delta 88 Olds, if he remembered correctly.
I'm hungry...
He decided to follow them, and climbed up to the roof. He still hadn't tested these newfound powers....time he did.
Eddie watched as the car turned left.
The darkness flowed over him and he jumped.
Venom felt the air rush past him...and the exhilaration. He shot out a webline and reveled in these new abilities....little wonder Spider-Man did this so often. Temporarily defying gravity....almost like flying.
He began to catch up to the thieves, tempering his excitement and replacing it with anger and vengeance.
They got out of their car at an apartment...his former apartment. He felt the deep, abyssal burn inside him as he watched the two of them high-five. Venom began to crawl down slowly....so slowly....getting right next to them
"Man, did you see the look on that clerk's face? I thought he was going to wet himself!" one of the thieves laughed. Venom joined in, and they looked up, horrified.
"Ah yes....," Venom sighed happily. "I wonder who's going to see the looks on your faces, hmm?"
Then he dropped down, grabbed both of them, and threw them into an alley. The slightly taller one he snatched first, throwing him against the wall and shoving him against the brickwork. The other was temporarily knocked out.
"Oh my God," the crook whispered. "Oh my God, Oh my God..."
"That's the expression I was looking for," Venom smiled. "Now, where did I leave those guts..."
He formed his fingers into claws....and began to tear up the man's innards. His partner watched in stark fear. After a pause, Venom turned..
"Guess who's next?" he asked.
"Oh-oh, don't hurt me, please," he whimpered, and then saw that Venom was obviously not going to stop. "Please....not my stomach...please..."
"Ask and ye shall receive," Venom grinned, and placed both of his meaty hands on the man's head.
And began to pull.
"Agh! AAGH!"
"Brains....," Venom mocked, adopting a tone perhaps more suitable for a Romero film. "We want....brains...."
"AAAAGH!"
Venom pulled harder...and then tored the upper half of the man's head off, spraying blood and bile everywhere. Venom licked his face clean...and then ebgan to gorge.
Five minutes later, he finished up the gray matter and dropped the man, in slight horror.
I....I just ate his brain....
Yes.
I....I ate it. It was....it was....
It was.....mmmmmm mmmmmm gooddddd......
Is this.....Is this me? Is this who I am now?
Yes. This is what you've chosen. Get a hold of yourself.
I....I suppose....I need to talk to someone about this....

"And that's how you wound up here," the priest said. "So....feel better?"
"Yes," Eddie said, smiling. "I realize I didn't have to do this....but thank you for listening."
"Of course," the "priest" said, and began to turn black and oily. The "priest" metled completely back into symbiote form and rejoined with Eddie.
And Eddie felt whole again....renewed.
He looked up at the cross....the stairs to the belltower.
"This is where it all started....how fitting thjat this is where it will all end."
Yes, indeed....
"FREEZE!"
Eddie turned and saw a young rookie cop in the doorway....realized the intent.
"Stealing from the poorboxes?" the rookie asked. "That's pretty low, mister."
"Don't be a fool, boy," Eddie said, trying to ward him off, get him away, "PEtty cash means nothing to me. Go...please."
"Sorry, pal, but the busted lock says different. You're coming back to the station with me."
Eddie sighed. "I am sorry."
And then the symbiote reached out and smothered the man. Eddie felt a token pang of regret.
"Innocent death....always unpleasant."
Yes....but better than being stopped.
"Indeed. Nothing will stop our righteous vengeance. and by all that's sacred--"
The fangs emerged, and Eddie was swallowed by the blackness, completely committed.
The old has gone, the new has come.
"--nothing will."

Venom_uk

11-11-2004, 02:51 PM

Well Rabbit, another 2 damn good parts there my fury friend :):up:

Some great lines in there from Venom too? Things I could deffinatly hear him saying.

Good job again dude. Keep it up :up:

The Navigator

11-11-2004, 02:52 PM

Thanks, V_UK.

Alas, we have but one more chapter to go....but it's gonna be a killer! :venom:

Venom_uk

11-11-2004, 02:54 PM

Thanks, V_UK.

Alas, we have but one more chapter to go....but it's gonna be a killer! :venom:
I hope you mean that in evey sense of the term too Rabbit ;) :venom:

The Navigator

11-11-2004, 02:54 PM

You'll see....;)

The Navigator

11-11-2004, 02:58 PM

http://www.newsarama.com/Marvel/Frank_Cho/MKSM0811.jpg

Biggest cop-out scene ever. :down

Did I mention that Millar sucks? Because he does. He sucks like a Hoover, and I don't mean the former president.

Venom_uk

11-11-2004, 03:26 PM

http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v426/Venom_uk/Own3d01.jpg
http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v426/Venom_uk/Venom09.jpg

:D;):p

Kirsten-Is-Hot!

11-11-2004, 03:35 PM

What are you guys gonna do now trhat Eddie is dead?
Will it mean the end of the club House?

Kirsten-Is-Hot!

11-11-2004, 03:37 PM

Or will ya just talk about the next Venom?

Venom_uk

11-11-2004, 03:42 PM

What are you guys gonna do now trhat Eddie is dead?
Will it mean the end of the club House?
No no no...fear not. The 'club house' isn't about to close it's doors just yet ;)

Even though this is called 'Eddies' club house & will always be based around Eddie Brock, the one true Venom, any Venom disscussion is welcome. Past, pressent or future. :)

As long as there are Venomites out there...the club house doors will remain open :D:up:

The Navigator

11-11-2004, 03:54 PM

Damn straight.

Kirsten-Is-Hot!

11-11-2004, 04:07 PM

No no no...fear not. The 'club house' isn't about to close it's doors just yet ;)

Even though this is called 'Eddies' club house & will always be based around Eddie Brock, the one true Venom, any Venom disscussion is welcome. Past, pressent or future. :)

As long as there are Venomites out there...the club house doors will remain open :D:up:
Cool, even though I think Venom had gone of track in recent years abit,
Killing him is going a little too far!
Atleast he'll be imortalised as one of the legendary Villains.

The Navigator

11-11-2004, 04:19 PM

Let's hope so.

Venom Drool

11-11-2004, 09:56 PM

eddies not dead
thats that

Langoth

11-12-2004, 02:57 AM

With the way Eddie 'killed' himself? That won't immortalize him.

Know what I would have liked to see? Angelo's symbiote turned out to be the offspring, and Brock was masterminding the whole thing. VENOM then goes off and tries to get Spider-Man while he's down, and is KILLED during this somehow.

That's how you immortalize a villain, having them die, locked in combat. I would have liked both Brock and the Symbiote to die if they where gonna do that.

And then, after that, the offspring, the final one, does what Venom was originally supposed to do, it hopes from host to host.

Dangerous

11-12-2004, 07:33 AM

And then, after that, the offspring, the final one, does what Venom was originally supposed to do, it hopes from host to host.

No it's better that Brock dies now,
and the original symbiote starts host hoping
now the way it was always intended to.

The Navigator

11-12-2004, 09:22 AM

Part 7: To The Last

A day passed, and the young policeman's body was not found.
Neither was Parker.
Where IS he?
Eddie, in civilian clothes, began to descend the stairs at Parker's apartment. He had planned on making a house call--perhaps a verbal agreement with the Spider to settle their feud elsewhere--privately.
It seemed the polite thing to do.
But he wasn't here. The coward had fled his own nest, and to where....? Eddie passed by the landlady and tapped her on the shoulder.
"What?" she aked, surly.
"Didn't mean to bother you," Eddie said, "but would you know where Mister and Mrs. Parker moved to?"
"No idea," she growled. "It was sudden, and if they hadn't left the check for the rent, I would've barred the door. As it is--gone and forgotten."
"Well, thank you," Eddie said, biting his tongue--tongues--out of frustration. He wasn't....here. Which meant he could be anywhere.
Eddie left the apartment, crawled up to the rooftop quick as he could, and transformed into Venom. Grinding his teeth in helpless fury, Venom looked out over the city.
"Let's see," he pondered, "if I were a spineless little arachnid....where would I hide?"
A hotel?
"Would have moved out by now...probably has staked claim on a boarding house."
Pretty quick move....especially since they took everything.
"Yes....everything...."
Venom began to think, the cogs turning, and then he spotted it.
A moving van.
And he smiled.
"It may not be Parker's....but it's better than nothing."
He lept off the roof and began to follow.

Seven solid hours later, Venom was back at square one, with less than no results. The symbiote was starting to get antsy.
"Oh, settle down," he said to his "partner." "We'll have him soon enough. Maybe I should reconsider these warnings for the future..."
Maybe?
"Hush. It just might be that--wait a minute...."
Venom let go of the webline and dropped down to a rooftop. Across the way, at the Bedford Towers complex, a certain young man and young woman were mingling with a group of very tired-looking people. And there were cardboard boxes everywhere.
"Bingo."
Parker went out on a ledge with Robbie--a face Venom might not have seen for a time, but would never forget. At that "cue," Venom lept off the roof and began to swing away.
Follow me.....follow me....
An agonizing two and a half minutes later, Venom heard the distinct thwip noise behind him....subtle, but there.
Showtime.
He swung back towards his new home, the decrepit tenement, hoping Spider-Man would still follow him inside. Venom crawled through one of the windows and scurried up to the ceiling.
Come on....come on....
A moment later, a lithe, athletic figure landed on the building side...and crawled in.
The wait was over, and Venom launched himself at the murderer who had come into his home.
THWOK!!
Spider-Man flew back into the old wall, sending a net of cracks up the plaster....and dropping the sonic gun Venom had just noticed a good ten feet away. Venom slowly let out webbing, delicately falling from the ceiling.
"Saw you moving in across the way," Venom snarled, "and I just had to go over and be neighborly."
"Who....who are you?" Spider-Man asked, apalled. Good. Better that he was afraid.
"I am the monster under your bed, Peter....the one that just won't go away. My name is Venom....because that is what I am to those that destroy the innocence of life. Still clueless? Perhaps this will help." And the symbiote withdrew from his face, revealing plain, human--
"Eddie Brock!"
"Ah....you've seen my picture in the paper," Eddie said, smiling. "Then you know my story....and your little role in it. Actually, you were pretty center stage, weren't you? Hogging the spotlight, even..."
"How....how do you know me?"
"Please....I never forget a face....and neither do your exes. Even you have to remember this old 'alien' costume....worn in the Secret Wars, and currently being defiled just by that imitation you--"
Then Spider-Man, who had been inching closer and closer, lunged for the sonic gun.
"You sly bastard," Eddie chuckled, and the symbiote flowed over him. "Bring it on."
Spider-Man hefted the sonic gun just in time for Venom to bring down both his fists, slamming through the floor and throwing the webhead through the hole. He landed with a meaty sound that shot all the air out of him. Venom leaped down, quivering in anticipation, and fired a webline as Spider-Man began to get up. Venom reached out, swung and kicked Parker right in the face and into the wooden walls.
CRUNCH!!
"Urngh!" Spider-Man grunted, and Venom lunged for him--but this time the Spider was quicker, and used the momentum to get a chokehold around Venom's neck.
Venom almost sighed with disappointment, grabbed the webhead, ripping him loose from his perch, and pushing his head through the floor.
"Unh....unh...." Spider-Man weezed, and groped for something. Venom, too busy squeezing the life out of the webslinger, failed to notice that Parker grabbed a steel support beam, and--
CLANGG!!
--knocked Venom free of him. Venom shook his head, a little dazed, and then saw Parker pick up the sonic gun--
And grabbed his head as Hell came to earth on sonic wings. The symbiote pulled away from the noise as best it could....but it was attached to him, and couldn't go very far. Eventually....far too long....the sound stopped, and Venom collapsed in relief as feeling began to course its way though both parts of the body. He looked up, shaken, and saw the Spider trying to beat a hasty retreat.
"Oh, no," he growled, and lept out the window after him. He waited for Spider-Man to start swinging away. And he did, casting out a webline, following its natural course, shooting out another--
THWOP!!
And suddenly a glob of web attached Peter to the line he was about to let go of. "What the--?"
THWOP!!
And another glob made sure he wouldn't let go of the line he just cast.
"Well," came Venom's fangy voice, "looks like somebody left a LOT of dirty laundry out on this line!"
"Oh, NO--!"
Venom jumped, landing on Spider-Man,who was as helpless as a fish on a line.
"No--NO--"
"Quit your sniveling," Venom growled, struggling with the writhing body. "I might even make it--"
Spider-Man suddenly got his feet under Venom, twisted back and pushed the symbiote off, into a--
CRSSHH!!
--window. Venom shook his head. "That's happening MUCH too often for our tastes."
Spider-Man snapped free of the webbing and plummeted. Venom followed him, and shot out a tendril that snagged his foot.
"Run, run, fast as you can," Venom taunted, using Spider-Man's own momentum to shoot under him and then up and in front of him, "I'll catch you eventually, Spider-Man!"
SLAM!
Spider-Man reeled from Venom's blow to his jaw, teetering--and fell down to earth with a thud. Venom dropped lightly from above and approached Spider-Man.
"Come on," he said. "Get up. It can't hurt THAT bad....considering what's coming next..." He rushed the webslinger.
Spider-Man grabbed a manhole cover and hoisted it as a shield.
PRANG!!
Venom punched through it easily.
"Patty cake, patty cake-"
SMACK!!
"--baker's man. Bake us a cake as fast as you can," Venom grinned, giving another good kick to Spider-Man's ugly face.
"Yearrgh!" Spider-Man shouted...although he was running out of energy. Frantically, he tried to back up--but Venom ensnared him in pseudopodia.
"First we...pat it..."
POW!!
THUD!!
BFF!!!
"Then we...roll it..."
And Venom gave Spidey a good--
PUNT!!
--that sent him sailing a good thirty feet....landing right at the front doors of St. Mary's.
"Well, ain't that a coinkeedink," Venom grinned, knowing it was no such thing, and ran after a feeble Spider-Man. He caught up just as Spidey slammed both the doors closed--and Venom gave tit for tat by slamming them open, knocking Spider-Man into some pews.
"Angels and ministers of grace, defend us," Venom smirked, then turned to Spider-Man, pushing his way back from the symbiote exhaustedly. "Our little rhyme's almost done....want to know how it ends?"
"N-no..."
"Shut it. Then we mark it..." Venom growled, turning his fingers into claws with a nasty SLIKT!! noise, "with a....V."
Spider-Man started to crawl away, stumblingly down the aisle, towards the cross.
"Good luck getting help from a statue," Venom smirked, and then looked over the pews. "Let's see..."
"No...." Spider-Man whispered.
"This one looks firm," Venom said, and hefted one of the more solid-looking benches above his head.
"No!"
"Sorry, old chap--you've been measured, weighed...and found wanting."
And Venom shattered the pew over Spider-Man's head.
The webslinger slumped, unconscious.
Venom could hardly believe it--it had been so easy...almost too easy to believe. And now, the moment of truth. On this depended the fate of millions....millionns he could not fail.
He seized the dragon....and bound him for a thousand years....
Venm grabbed Spider-Man's prone form and began to ascend the steps of the bell tower.
He threw him into the abyss, and locked and sealed it over him...
When he reached the top, pseudopodia reached out, and enclosed over Spider-Man, hanging him upside down. Venom then aimed...and fired web after web, for what seemed hours. Eventually he retracted his pseudopodia....once he was sure Spider-Man was secured.
To keep him from deceiving the nations anymore....
Secured to the bell he had heard all of his life. The bell that would ring again.
The bell that would make a joyous noise unto the Lord, crushing and smashing the worst evil known to man at the same time. Truly...it would be a day of praise and hallelujahs.
Don't fail me, son...please. Just this once....prove your worth to me.
I will, father. This time...we will.
Spider-Man moaned softly, and Venom noticed.
"Whaaa......Lord....."
"Now, now," Venom teased. "You shouldn't call on the name of God unless it's in prayer. But we'll forgive you this once, as it may well have been a prayer.....seeing as how you're about to be exorcised, demon."
"Eddie....Venom....wait...."
"All coming back, isn't it? How you tried to kill my darker half with the bells....for shame. Using the tools of the Lord against him."
"Whatever you're thinking of doing.....please....don't...."
"Little use begging, Spider-Man....it's out of my hands now. The bell's been on an automated system for years. I just had to get it up and running."
"But....wait...."
"Sorry, Peter, but we can't afford to. It's nearly midnight, you see....once the bell's clapper smashes through you, the noise would be most painful to us. But don't worry....we'll be back to view the remains."
Venom started down the steps.
"Eddie....Eddie! For God's sake...!"
But Venom ignored Spider-Man's pleas and continued to descend...until he was at the foot of the cross once more.
"Have I done as you commanded, Lord? Have I succeeded where all others have failed?"
Yes, Eddie....you are truly my son...in whom I am well pleased.
"Thank you.....so much."
There was a pause....he could hear the grinding of the old mechanisms....the bell was swinging....the clapper drawing back....and--
Nothing.
"That's strange," Eddie said, looking up the steps. "There should have been a noise by now....a crunch....scream..."
He looked nervously towards the cross.
It was stonily silent.
Venom started up the stairs, quickening his pace, chiding himself for not finishing Spider-Man off himself....what if something had gone wrong?
Something had.
"YOU!!" Venom could barely suppress his rage. Spider-Man had escaped from his bonds....and stood firm. "Coward! Cheater! Little Paulie brat!!"
"Paulie--?"
"I'll kill you!!"
Venom leaped at Spider-Man, who fell back....into the bell
BONG
BONG
"AAGH!!" Venom cried, his other pulling away from the sound. "You---you hurt us...with the voice of God! Dirty....little....****!"
But Spider-Man was hardly standing like the house on the rock. On the contrary, he was holding his ears...and beating a retreat for the roof.
"Oh, no," Venom growled. "No, no.....this time, I'll rip out your spine myself!!"
Venom jumped onto the roof, and--
BAM!!
--was kicked in the face by Spider-Man. He started to fall...then shot out a webline to the roof's cross.
"I'll eat your spleen for that, you demon," Venom said, and began to ascend the webline, lithe as a spider. Peter, meanwhile, tore off a section of the roof and cut apart Venom's lifeline...and he fell again. Venom shot out another....and noticed his other was become incomplete.
The webbing...we used too much to secure him....it's....draining everything....no, no, NO!!
Spider-Man cut his lines almost as fast as he shot them out. Soon, the alien costume barely covered him.
And then Jesus appeared above, holding out his arms to Eddie.
Please, Lord....save me!
Venom shot for the heavens....but there was nothing left.
He fell.
Please....save me! Catch me!
Jesus began to fade....turn away.
Catch me, daddy, CATCH ME, PLEA--
THUDD!!!
Eddie struck his head....and then heard no more.

He awoke some time later...in a prison cell, and he understood all that had happened. He had failed.
Again.
I thought I could count on you, Eddie. I really thought I could, just this once. But you....like all the other times....****ed up miserably.
Next time, daddy....next time I'll eat his brains if that's what it takes.
Sure, son. I'll believe it when I see it.
Please....don't leave me like this....
But there was nothing else. Eddie looked up, towards the ceiling...the sky...beyond.
Spider-Man....if you hear me...if some part of you listens right now....know that I'm making a vow before God. I will make sure you suffer for the rest of your life because of me. Do you hear me? I'm not through with you. Just you wait. Just you wait....

And the deceiver...was thrown into the lake of burning sulfur, where the beast and the false prophet had been thrown. They will be tortured day and night for ever and ever.
Go in peace.
Serve the Lord.
Thanks be to God.

The End.

Langoth

11-12-2004, 12:15 PM

No it's better that Brock dies now,
and the original symbiote starts host hoping
now the way it was always intended to.

The thing I've noticed, is you hate Eddie so much... why do you come to the Club House of EDDIE BROCK, if you hate him so much? I'm just wondering...

Symbiotica

11-12-2004, 12:42 PM

Venom_uk

11-12-2004, 01:08 PM

The thing is, whatever atrocity they wreak on Brock in the books, he's never going to die, not in the hearts of people interested in this subject matter.

They can bring on *20* "new, improved" Venoms: the original will always be the standard against which they'll be measured.

But like I say, the jury is still very much out as to whether or not Brock is dead. Remember people in the comics-verse tend to be very, very hard to kill.
100%, totally agree with you there Sym :up:

Everything else with just be a 'copy', a watered down version of Venom. Eddies Venom.
The thing I've noticed, is you hate Eddie so much... why do you come to the Club House of EDDIE BROCK, if you hate him so much? I'm just wondering...
Good question...:confused:

I also liked your idea with how to give Eddie a proper send off, immortalising him for ever in Spidey's 'Best Villains Ever' gallery. That would indeed be a very cool way to kill him off IMO. But then again, I still can't see why they feel the need to kill him off in the first place!!!

The Navigator

11-12-2004, 02:15 PM

True, true.....I finished "Black," by the way. I'm going to put it in my own fanfic thread soon enough.

Venom_uk

11-12-2004, 04:11 PM

Very nicley done Rabbit. I liked it alot. You really captured what/who Venom is with alot of the dialogue, with I thought was cool. :up:

Well done. Get the whole thing up in the fanfic forums dude. More people need to see this :):up:

The Navigator

11-12-2004, 04:13 PM

Too true. More fanfic pages need tables of content, though, so that's up first.

The Navigator

11-12-2004, 04:27 PM

All right, there it is: the entire story on one page in "Fanfics of the Rabbit." Have fun, peoples!

(Peoples who haven't read it, anyway)

Venom_uk

11-12-2004, 04:33 PM

All right, there it is: the entire story on one page in "Fanfics of the Rabbit." Have fun, peoples!

(Peoples who haven't read it, anyway)
Where??? :confused:

The Navigator

11-12-2004, 04:34 PM

On SHH community.....fan fiction.....fanfics of the rabbit.

If you still can't find it, I'll get the url in a minute.

Venom_uk

11-12-2004, 04:37 PM

On SHH community.....fan fiction.....fanfics of the rabbit.

If you still can't find it, I'll get the url in a minute.
Oh right, with you now ;):up:

The Navigator

11-12-2004, 04:38 PM

Excellent. :venom:

Kirsten-Is-Hot!

11-12-2004, 04:44 PM

Hey guys you think Eddie will become Venom again if he ain't really dead?
Which issue of Marvel Knights?

The Navigator

11-12-2004, 04:45 PM

uh........
I'm hoping he doesn't come back in MK. But if he does, probably.......30. Or so.

For a dose of the "real" Venom, click the link in my siggy and get yourself something to drink.

Venom_uk

11-12-2004, 04:47 PM

Hey guys you think Eddie will become Venom again if he ain't really dead?
Which issue of Marvel Knights?
I havn't read MK:SM#8, I'll get it next week hopefully, but to be honest, I don't want Millar let loose anywhere nere Venom or Eddie Brock ever again!!!

The Navigator

11-12-2004, 04:48 PM

I havn't read MK:SM#8, I'll get it next week hopefully, but to be honest, I don't want Millar let loose anywhere nere Venom or Eddie Brock ever again!!!

Exactly. That guy's like.....uh.....JMS being handed Gwen. Stupid Joey Q.

Kirsten-Is-Hot!

11-12-2004, 04:57 PM

I havn't read MK:SM#8, I'll get it next week hopefully, but to be honest, I don't want Millar let loose anywhere nere Venom or Eddie Brock ever again!!!
I agree.
But Millar could kill Eddie in the course of the 12 issues,
and then thats it, he'll be dead in all current comics.

Venom_uk

11-12-2004, 05:02 PM

I agree.
But Millar could kill Eddie in the course of the 12 issues,
and then thats it, he'll be dead in all current comics.
Yeah, thats the problem rigt there! Its regular (616) continuity!!!

Kirsten-Is-Hot!

11-12-2004, 05:04 PM

Well I want Eddie to stay alive now that the new Venom turned out to be such a wuss, so heres hoping.
Fingers crossed.

The Navigator

11-12-2004, 05:04 PM

This is why I stick to Ultimates. It's so much simpler. And better, in many cases.

Kirsten-Is-Hot!

11-12-2004, 05:10 PM

Ultimates has been easier for me to understand,
I only started reading comics this year.

Venom_uk

11-12-2004, 05:10 PM

Well I want Eddie to stay alive now that the new Venom turned out to be such a wuss, so heres hoping.
Fingers crossed.
Yeah, I agree. Venom MachII last all of...what was it....one & half issues? Thats how good he was folks!!! :D:p

Hopefully Eddie will be alive...he's done this before (read my 'spoiler' at the top of last page).

The Navigator

11-12-2004, 05:15 PM

Yeah, I agree. Venom MachII last all of...what was it....one & half issues? Thats how good he was folks!!! :D:p

Hopefully Eddie will be alive...he's done this before (read my 'spoiler' at the top of last page).

Unfortunately, I think Millar's serious about killing Eddie. (Sorry if I spoiled it for you people, but come on. Get with it, here!) Otherwise, this is a pretty pointless four-parter, if you think about it: VenomJuan's kicked the bucket, his "crime family" is also kaput....and if the free symbiote returned to Eddie and "resurrected" him, this arc would be a cheap stab at the Venom fans. (Actually, it still is. But it would be even more so.)

Venom_uk

11-12-2004, 05:20 PM

Unfortunately, I think Millar's serious about killing Eddie. (Sorry if I spoiled it for you people, but come on. Get with it, here!) Otherwise, this is a pretty pointless four-parter, if you think about it: VenomJuan's kicked the bucket, his "crime family" is also kaput....and if the free symbiote returned to Eddie and "resurrected" him, this arc would be a cheap stab at the Venom fans. (Actually, it still is. But it would be even more so.)
Good point Rabbit. :(

The Navigator

11-12-2004, 05:40 PM

I hate it when I'm right. :mad:

Luckily for you all....if you liked my little re-telling, you're going to LOVE the retcon! It's called Venom: Alliances (I'm just so damn creative with these titles), and it's not going to be for the faint of heart!

fever red

11-12-2004, 06:30 PM

I loved your story.
UM, SPOLIER...how do I do the black-out thing?
I disagree however, about Eddie dying. I suspect it'll be just his body for a time, as depicted in V vs. C; where Spidey refers to "the soul of the man whose body you're inhabiting" or something to that effect...eventually, they may have him recover his higher brain function; who knows?

Symbiotica

11-12-2004, 07:19 PM

To black stuff out, at the start of what you type, put:

[spoiler]

when you're done, put [/ spoiler]

Don't put a space in between the slant-bar and the word when you spoiler for real, I did that just now so it wouldn't black out what I wrote.

and if the free symbiote returned to Eddie and "resurrected" him, this arc would be a cheap stab at the Venom fans. (Actually, it still is. But it would be even more so.)

...Since when is Marvel above "cheap stabs"? :gg: This is why I think it's all so stupid anyways; because there's a very high probability this is all going to be reversed in the future.

CKayote

11-12-2004, 11:55 PM

I disagree however, about Eddie dying. I suspect it'll be just his body for a time, as depicted in V vs. C; where Spidey refers to "the soul of the man whose body you're inhabiting" or something to that effect...eventually, they may have him recover his higher brain function; who knows?Yeah, Carnage has done that like 3 times already. So has Aunt May. And half the re-occuring cast of the SM books.

CKayote@worldnet.att.net

Dangerous

11-13-2004, 09:12 AM

The thing I've noticed, is you hate Eddie so much... why do you come to the Club House of EDDIE BROCK, if you hate him so much? I'm just wondering...

I don't hate Venom at all.
He's one of my top 3 all time fav villians.
It's just he has grown to suck and it's time someone reeled him in so the symbiote can do what it was always suppossed to do-
jump from host to host.

Mark Millar rules.

Venom Drool

11-13-2004, 01:37 PM

he was great in the hunger :(

Dangerous

11-13-2004, 04:17 PM

he was great in the hunger :(

So was Paul Jenkins... look what happened to him.

Venom Drool

11-13-2004, 05:27 PM

funny guy;)

Venom_uk

11-13-2004, 05:32 PM

'The Hunger' was a damn good story I found, just a shame (huge shame IMO) that the art work sucked! Not my style at all I'm affraid :(

Venom Drool

11-13-2004, 06:39 PM

it didnt suck...it wasnt pleasant..wasnt very good...but it got better the last couple of issues...

Langoth

11-13-2004, 07:42 PM

I hated the Hunger, in my opinion it was a needless Recton to give Eddie more purpose to dim-whits who figure just because you're social and financial life is ruined you shouldn't hate someone in a delusional sense, or at the very least find a way to narrow your hatred at SOMETHING, as the individual can't come to terms with the fact they did it to themselves.

Its not a hard concept to understand, and he had PLENTY of reason to be that way, they added the cancer thing needlessly to make him more 'interesting'. Its more pathetic in my eyes then anything.

CKayote

11-13-2004, 11:30 PM

they added the cancer thing needlessly to make him more 'interesting'. Its more pathetic in my eyes then anything.
Have to agree with you there.

CKayote@worldnet.att.net

Dangerous

11-14-2004, 08:38 AM

'The Hunger' was a damn good story I found, just a shame (huge shame IMO) that the art work sucked! Not my style at all I'm affraid :(

Man the art did not suck at all.
Ramos’ reinvented Venom's look so he was really scary looking again.
Though if your not a fan of his I can see how it would be too much of a radical departure from the classic look to be able to swallow.
I thought it was the most awesome Venom since Larsen -Ramos knocked my socks off.

I hated the Hunger, in my opinion it was a needless Recton to give Eddie more purpose to dim-whits who figure just because you're social and financial life is ruined you shouldn't hate someone in a delusional sense, or at the very least find a way to narrow your hatred at SOMETHING, as the individual can't come to terms with the fact they did it to themselves.

Its not a hard concept to understand, and he had PLENTY of reason to be that way, they added the cancer thing needlessly to make him more 'interesting'. Its more pathetic in my eyes then anything.

I disagree, apart from adding an air of realism to him, -now super-villains could get cancer to like normal people, it also explored his character.
When else before had we seen Eddie Brock curled up scared like a baby?
This does not betray who Brock is because we had never seen him w/ a terminal illness before.

I don't think Jenkins wrote it cause he didn’t think Eddie had enough reasons to be pissed off, but rather to create something that had not done before and thus explore Eddie's strength of character.
What he's really made of.
And despite what you say Brock had become a little boring and The Hunger' made him intriguing again.

venom892

11-14-2004, 12:56 PM

I thought the Hunger was great.It is one of the better venom stories.But nothing beats the original Mcfarlane issues.Great art and very well written.But really was there anything left for eddie to do?After the hunger it seemed that eddie just didn't want to live anymore anyways.Anyways imagine the possibilities with the symboite.Imangine fused with Doc ock,The lizard and others from Spidey's rouge gallery.Anyways Eddie was supposed to die back ASM #400.David Micheline had that planed since he created Venom.But since he left the book and Venom got popular marvel never went though with it.Don't get me wrong Iove the charater of eddie brock but let's see how this development goes first.

OtepApe

11-14-2004, 01:02 PM

I personally loved The Hunger. I thought it was a great venom story and really helped the character. The art was great but that's coz i'm a fan of ramos, if your not then I can understand why. It's one of my better venom stories but in fairness i didn't like many of his anyway.

Venom_uk

11-14-2004, 01:10 PM

I thought the 'Hunger' arc was a good story. & it didn't really damage the charactor IMO as some have said. The only thing that I didn't like, was the fact that we were told that Eddie has had the cancer for years, & that it was only because of the Symbiote that he was kept alive. That kind of messed up alot of things that have been writen before, being as Eddie has been seperated from the symbiote quite a few times & for long periods of time in some cases. Other then that it was good & I enjoyed it.

psycho

11-14-2004, 01:29 PM

I like "the Hunger", there is so much Eddie Brock character development as opposed to just Eddie Brock going crazy as Venom. Paul Jenkins & Humberto Ramos rule.

Shockdingo

11-14-2004, 02:40 PM

Good story!

Symbiotica

11-14-2004, 02:48 PM

Ramos’ reinvented Venom's look so he was really scary looking again. Though if your not a fan of his I can see how it would be too much of a radical departure from the classic look to be able to swallow.

Now if we don't like Ramo's portrayal we're "not fans"?! [throws hands into the air] Bagley's version wasn't scary?! I guess this is where opinion comes into play.

When else before had we seen Eddie Brock curled up scared like a baby?

Uh, try the original "the Hunger" story back in the 90's.

I don't think Jenkins wrote it cause he didn’t think Eddie had enough reasons to be pissed off, but rather to create something that had not done before and thus explore Eddie's strength of character. What he's really made of.
And despite what you say Brock had become a little boring and The Hunger' made him intriguing again.

You're confusing me. After telling us time and again Brock "needed to die" because he was boring, not compelling and had been ruined by over-treatment [writer's treatment] etc etc, now all the sudden Ramos and Jenkins made him "intriguing" again.

If you say Brock is so boring and all, and you're 100% behind "new, improved" MK Venom, would you mind telling us how this Angelo person *is* intriguing and interesting....?

Dangerous

11-14-2004, 04:20 PM

Now if we don't like Ramo's portrayal we're "not fans"?! [throws hands into the air] Bagley's version wasn't scary?! I guess this is where opinion comes into play.

You have miss-interpreted what I said.
I was saying if you don't dig Ramos to start w/, then I can see why you would not take a shine to his Venom.

You're confusing me. After telling us time and again Brock "needed to die" because he was boring, not compelling and had been ruined by over-treatment [writer's treatment] etc etc, now all the sudden Ramos and Jenkins made him "intriguing" again.

Jenkins wrote a story that piqued my interest in the character and made me get exited about a Venom arc for the first time since I was about 16.
That was a pretty big deal to me.
After that the Venom comic droned on in its own world of irrelevancy
and Venom became staid once more.
With MKSM there is a chance to do something exciting and in my mind they should just cut the cord on ten years of mostly bad writing and let Brock rest in peace rather than him continue to be badly written and ineffectual.
I realise this is the Venom thread so no disrespect to the Brock fans, this is just how I feel.
I'm a massive fan of Venom right up untill ASM#347 when Spidey ditched him on that Island.

If you say Brock is so boring and all, and you're 100% behind "new, improved" MK Venom, would you mind telling us how this Angelo person *is* intriguing and interesting....?

Well he started out interesting until he turned out to be a wuss.
At least it looks like the symbiote will be able to jump host now.

fever red

11-16-2004, 05:59 PM

Ok, you all were so supportive to Rabbit when he wrote his fantastic Venom story- I'm a Carnage fan ficcer, but of course that means I write Eddie a lot, too- so, since I haven't read any recent comics, I need continuity checkers...
Now, since the fic is a Carnage:Thanksgiving, I'm posting it in the Carnage Appreciation thread. Trust me, however, it's Eddie's charactor that will need the most input- so I'm inviting, no, begging, you to visit the Carnage Thread and pontificate.

Venom_uk

11-16-2004, 06:03 PM

I'll do anything I can to help out fever :):up:

fever red

11-16-2004, 06:13 PM

Thanks- it's up now!

Kirsten-Is-Hot!

11-17-2004, 06:47 AM

Ok I not read it, but this gets my vote for best Venom cover ever, what do you think?
Also is Maximum Carnage availible in trade paperback?

http://www.spiderfan.org/cgi-bin/cover.pl?80123,spiderman_amazing,378.jpg

psycho

11-17-2004, 07:16 AM

Maximum Carnage comes out in trade paperback this December.

Dangerous

11-17-2004, 07:52 AM

Nah, best ever Venom cover ever is either this one-
http://www.spiderfan.org/cgi-bin/cover.pl?80123,spiderman_amazing,316.jpg

or this

http://www.spiderfan.org/cgi-bin/cover.pl?80123,spiderman_amazing,347.jpg

or this

http://www.spiderfan.org/cgi-bin/cover.pl?80123,spiderman_spectacular_v2,001.jpg

Right now Im feeling SSM/vol2#1.

The Navigator

11-17-2004, 11:21 AM

All right, you primitive screwheads, listen up:

Part 1 of my latest Venom fanfic is up in my fanfic thread. Completely original, lengthy, and not for the faint of heart, go check it out and watch me give Millar the finger (so to speak).

That primitive screwheads thing was a joke.

fever red

11-17-2004, 12:15 PM

I AM a primitive screwhead...does that make me a joke?!
Why, you li'l bunny b@stard! You think I'm a clown, here for your amusement?

The Navigator

11-17-2004, 02:58 PM

I AM a primitive screwhead...does that make me a joke?!
Why, you li'l bunny b@stard! You think I'm a clown, here for your amusement?

Well, hello, mister Fancypants. You ain't leadin' but two things right now, Jack and ****. And Jack left town.
;)

fever red

11-17-2004, 03:00 PM

I'm here to kick rabbit @ss and chew bubble gum...and I'm all out of bubble gum!

The Navigator

11-17-2004, 03:08 PM

First you wanna kiss me, then you wanna kill me. (spits) Blow.

The Navigator

11-17-2004, 03:31 PM

http://www.samruby.com/SpidC/Large/Spiderman108.JPG
Don't know if this has been posted, but it's a vewwy cool cover. (Can't speak for the issue)

fever red

11-17-2004, 03:34 PM

Hey, Rabbit, I got nothing to match that last quote. Game, set, and match...you.
Yeh, I just got my @ss beat by a bunny. D@mn.

The Navigator

11-17-2004, 03:38 PM

:)
:carnage:
:venom:
Thanks. From ALL of us.

The Navigator

11-17-2004, 03:39 PM

http://www.comicheroes.co.uk/spiderman_gifs13.htm
And there you can find some good moving gifs of "venom."

Dr.Dude

11-17-2004, 05:00 PM

First you wanna kiss me, then you wanna kill me. (spits) Blow.Gimme some sugar, baby. http://www.superherohype.com/forums/images/smilies/wink.gif

:carnage: http://img49.exs.cx/img49/6831/Carnage.gif

http://www.superherohype.com/forums/images/smilies/redface1.gif http://www.superherohype.com/forums/images/smilies/wink.gif

The Navigator

11-18-2004, 03:05 PM

http://www.comicheroes.co.uk/movies_marvel.htm
And if you go here and click on the top right red x, you'll find an interesting little Spidey flash animation that climaxes with a cool Spidey/Venom fight (alas--it's short).

The Navigator

11-18-2004, 03:55 PM

http://www.comicheroes.co.uk/microheroes16d-3.htm
And on this page, you'll find several cool Venom/Carnage microheroes.

Venom_uk

11-20-2004, 03:13 PM

Wow! It's been busy in here lately! :up: Nice one

I got some pretty cool Venom thingys the other day off the net...

I got a 3" Venom fig that u have to build yourself, which they sell in Japan in kiddies vending machines. Really cool figure, I was suprised how good he actually looks. Debating whether or not to glue all the pieces together or not now.

Other thingy I got was the Venom 'Kubrick' figure. Looks cool, his face is just evil. Classic Venom :D:up:

I would take a pic of them but my digi cam is playing up!

CKayote

11-20-2004, 10:51 PM

http://www.comicheroes.co.uk/microheroes16d-3.htm
And on this page, you'll find several cool Venom/Carnage microheroes.
Cool. Do you know who Shathra is? I know all the others.

Wow! It's been busy in here lately! :up: Nice one

I got some pretty cool Venom thingys the other day off the net...

I got a 3" Venom fig that u have to build yourself, which they sell in Japan in kiddies vending machines. Really cool figure, I was suprised how good he actually looks. Debating whether or not to glue all the pieces together or not now.

Other thingy I got was the Venom 'Kubrick' figure. Looks cool, his face is just evil. Classic Venom :D:up:

I would take a pic of them but my digi cam is playing up!
Hmm. Always get a kick out of the stuff they sell in Japanese vending machines.

Post pics once you get chance!

CKayote@worldnet.att.net

The Navigator

11-22-2004, 01:18 PM

Cool. Do you know who Shathra is? I know all the others.

Shathra is one of JMS' villian contributions, and actually a pretty cool one at that. Also called the "Spider-Wasp," Shathra is only interested in Spider-Man so she can reduce him to his base- animal instincts--and then paralyze him and feed him to her children. :eek: I'd love to see Venom and Shathra go at it.

Come to think of it, that might be good for my next fanfic...

Venom_uk

11-22-2004, 04:11 PM

Awhile back, a black & white pic of Venom in a Santa hat, with Spidey behind about to take it off. Really cool/funny pic, unfortunatly I can't find the damn thing anywhere, & I want it! lol

It wasn't posted in here unfortunatly so I can't back-track to find it.
Has anyone got this pic or know where I can find it? Thanks in advance. :)

Symbiotica

11-22-2004, 09:35 PM

I am the one who found that pic in the first place.... back when I had time to cruise eBay :(

PM me your email address and I will send. It's by a guy named Raney[?]

....In other news, no one has ANYthing to say about that Bowen Venom statue prototype I posted a link to in Products? Wow. He's much nicer than that Milestones thing with hands for feet, IMO.

The Navigator

11-23-2004, 03:26 PM

http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v488/RabbitSamurai5/Venomchoking.jpg
http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v488/RabbitSamurai5/Venom.jpg

Some pictures I scanned to keep this thread alive.

Venom_uk

11-23-2004, 03:59 PM

Venom_uk

11-23-2004, 04:02 PM

Nice pics Rabbit. Good stuff. :):up:

JRjr does a pretty wicked Venom I think. Hands tend to be abit 'off' at times but still good. :up:

The Navigator

11-23-2004, 04:03 PM

I always liked how JRjr's Venom looked and moved a lot like a bigger, more evil version of Spider-Man. :up: You go, Romita Jr.

The Navigator

11-23-2004, 04:13 PM

http://www.comicscontinuum.com/stories/0411/19/spidergirl83.jpg

Oh, yeah...

Venom_uk

11-23-2004, 04:17 PM

That is one SWEET cover! :eek::up:

To bad it's for Spider-girl, oh well...

The Navigator

11-23-2004, 04:19 PM

Wouldn't make a great modification to change that to Spider-Man....I'm sure they could even retool that for an ASM 300 cover. Now THAT would be sweet.

Venom_uk

11-24-2004, 06:19 PM

Thanks for sending me the pic Sym. Great stuff :D:up:

& here it is folks, the pic I was going on about...

http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v426/Venom_uk/VenomSanta.jpg

Hehehe, love it :up:

Symbiotica

11-30-2004, 09:07 PM

.... Will this thread die? Hell, no!

*EDIT* pic...

The Navigator

11-30-2004, 09:08 PM

I command Venom to live!

.....in my latest fan-fic tbhat I'm shamelessly plugging! Click the link to see more Venom-related goodness! (the "Read" link, preferrably)

Otherwise, stay here to find more pictoral and reader's responses to the life and times of Eddie Brock, alien-possessed nutcase!

Symbiotica

11-30-2004, 09:09 PM

Picturetrail is resizing my images, and I really dislike that.

*EDIT* pic...

The Navigator

11-30-2004, 09:10 PM

Which one is that from?

Symbiotica

11-30-2004, 09:10 PM

*EDIT* pic... lack of space...

The Navigator

11-30-2004, 09:11 PM

Oops. Doofus.

Symbiotica

11-30-2004, 09:11 PM

*EDIT* some more...

Symbiotica

11-30-2004, 09:12 PM

Snippity-doo-dah....

Symbiotica

11-30-2004, 09:14 PM

Snippity-hey.... *EDIT* that's all, folks.

For now. :gg:

The Navigator

11-30-2004, 09:19 PM

Ah....so that IS Bagley's work....I was wondering about that. :up:

I wish, I wish, I WISH I had 375...

CKayote

11-30-2004, 09:31 PM

Ahh. The olden days when they knew how to write Venom.

CKayote@worldnet.att.net

The Navigator

11-30-2004, 09:33 PM

What....I don't?! :mad:
;)
Kidding. Yeah, those were good times.

Venom Drool

11-30-2004, 10:31 PM

i miss venom when he was good:(

Stevens25

11-30-2004, 11:26 PM

Venom rocks!!!!!!!

http://www.spyder-25.com/covers/venom/venom_12.jpg

Ace Gunman

12-02-2004, 06:00 AM

Yes, Venom does rock, i'm a HUGE Venom fan. I've read pretty much everything he's ever been in, and I will continue to do so. You may no think that's that much, but it is, he's had over 300 guest appearances in various comics (That's counting his guest apps in alternate timlines). He's had 18 Mini-series, 1 ongoing series (that ended at issue 18), Several one-shots, even comic crossovers. I mean jeez, Venom has even fought Superman! And i've read'em all, you may say i'm a bit obsessed.....and you'd be right :p

Speaking of Venom though, I hope Eddie Brock is finally dead (As he seems to be in MK: Spider-Man #08). Don't get me wrong, I loved Eddie, but the guy had a really hard life, and all he really wanted to do is lay down and die. The symbiote has eovlved so much over the years that it no longer needs Eddie to retain the Venom persona, infact, lately....IT seems to be the one in control. :venom:

Venom_uk

12-02-2004, 04:18 PM

Ooooooooh...look at all the pretty pics of Venom :eel: *drools*

I see someones been busy with there scanner. Nice one Sym :up:

I just got myself a digi-cam today so I'll be posting a few pics over the weekend hopefully. Share my Venom collection with my fellow Venomites ;)

Nice to see a few new faces in here too. More the merryer! :D:up:

Stevens25

12-02-2004, 04:53 PM

http://www.picturedot.com/FetchImageJPG.asp?ImageType=P&ImageFormat=H&ImageID=121030

I like this pick very much...cool!!!
:up: Can someone resize this for me? I'd like it to be about 125x125

The Navigator

12-02-2004, 04:54 PM

Oh, that is nice. Very classy. :up:

The Navigator

12-02-2004, 04:54 PM

Venom_uk

12-02-2004, 05:00 PM

merrier. ;)

I'm making some drawings that should be finished and scanned soon. Maybe by monday.
Dude! Don't start correcting my spellings or we'll be here all night...trust me on this! I can't sepll! ;):p

I actually tried both 'merrier' & 'merryer', neither looked right. I gambled...I lost...You live & learn... :D

The Navigator

12-02-2004, 05:01 PM

Dude! Don't strart correcting my spellings or we'll be here all night...trust me on this! I can't sepll! ;):p

I actually tried both 'merrier' & 'merryer', neither looked right. I gambled...I lost...You live & learn... :D

The inocent live adn learn....but you are guilty! OF NOT BEING ABLE TO SPELL! :venom:

Mmmm....branes.....
;)

Symbiotica

12-02-2004, 08:06 PM

I like this pick very much...cool!!!
:up: Can someone resize this for me? I'd like it to be about 125x125

125X125... what? Its already 320x227 pixels.

This image is high enough quality to resize without too much pixelation; if you want it, PM me. I dont feel like uploading it for general download but I will resize if requested.

That is a neat, if unusual, pic.

CKayote

12-03-2004, 12:16 AM

I like this pick very much...cool!!!
:up: Can someone resize this for me? I'd like it to be about 125x125
I did it for you. Post your email address so I can send it to you.

CKayote@worldnet.att.net

Karem-Knight

12-04-2004, 09:44 AM

http://64.4.61.250/cgi-bin/getmsg/VenomMovie.bmp?curmbox=00000000%2d0000%2d0000%2d00 00%2d000000000001&a=e60eee5d1e9fabcc066299aabc84ca38&msg=F64112AF-8272-417A-AA3C-6957CBB36545&start=0&len=291951&mimepart=7&disk=10.1.118.12_d2992&login=venmon_180&domain=hotmail%2ecom&hm___sig=d9a189c601c4da17b719d8307a9fc8e9d4aae0f56 ad15770
some thing I did for a venom movie design (not a good drawing) but wat u think

The Navigator

12-04-2004, 09:50 AM

Can't see nothing but a red X, Karem. :(

Symbiotica

12-04-2004, 10:00 AM

The Navigator

12-04-2004, 10:13 AM

I need to ask you people who have read all of the recent Venom stand-alone title something.... I own the Run TPB and I have the singles for Twist, have not yet gotten around to getting the first TPB [put it off due to the art]... and now I need it.

While I'm looking around on evilBay, perhaps you people can please help me with this little question: exactly how does Patricia Robertson end up at the Antarctic research-facility in the 1st place? Is she a SHIELD agent? [I'm guessing no] Is she assigned there as part of a military unit guarding the facility? Why is she there?

I really need to know, and I don't want to wait two weeks while someone gets around to mailing the TPB to me. I can't find it locally. :(

Hehehe.....I happen to have all 3 TPBs, so I can help you there.

The Northern Arctic Circle Radar station is a military base of some sort or another. It's abysmally dull, too. Patricia Robertson (the only female army person in the bunch) is resorted to going to that Ararat station just to pick up movies.
It's during one of these routine runs that she hears a desperate cry for help from inside. Strapping on her rifle, she investigates--to find black slime everywhere and a huge massacre. Bodies are dead, strewn everywhere--except for one lone survivor, locked in the freezer. Patricia buckles his nearly catatonic body on her dogsled and mushes it back to the arctic base. A little freaked out herself (and understandibly so) she doesn't get much better when Ivan, the lead dog, barks at something behind them. She can't see anything and continues into the base, where she tells her tale to the commanding officer.
He dismisses it as the work of polar bears and then asks her if the civvy was in the freezer, who was she talking to on the intercom?
She suddenly realizes she's made a big mistake--and then that civvy starts convulsing with surprising strength. Delacroix and Jackson, two of the other guys stationed there, can barely hold him down.
And meanwhile, someone's on Robertson's trail....some strange guy in a black suit...
Jackson, the local medic, decides to examine him after his fit's passed--and then Patricia hears the dogs barking. And that's where the fun begins.
I won't spoil the rest, but I hope I've answered your questions.

Karem-Knight

12-04-2004, 10:35 AM

Can't see nothing but a red X, Karem. :(God Dammit not again

The Navigator

12-04-2004, 10:36 AM

God Dammit not again

Sorry, man.

Symbiotica

12-04-2004, 10:58 AM

Thaaaaaaaaaaaaaank You, Rabbit!

The Navigator

12-04-2004, 11:00 AM

I try. :D

Venom_uk

12-04-2004, 11:10 AM

Heres a few pics I've just taken of some of my Venom related things that inhabit my room...

http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v426/Venom_uk/VenomStuff01.jpg

Above are all my Venom toys, statues & models ect. Don't ask why the 'Kubrick' Venom down the front is dancing...I don't think even he knows!

http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v426/Venom_uk/VenomPainting.jpg

This is a piece of fanart that I won on an eBay auction a few weeks back. The artists name is Gordon Bruce, & it is just an awesome bit of work. The pic above really dosn't do it justice either in all fairness...

The Navigator

12-04-2004, 11:16 AM

That's some good stuff--is that first action figure on the far left part of the Sinsiter Six set?

American_Hobo

12-04-2004, 11:18 AM

Venom_uk

12-04-2004, 11:35 AM

That's some good stuff--is that first action figure on the far left part of the Sinsiter Six set?
Yep, it is indeed :up:

:venom:

The Navigator

12-04-2004, 11:37 AM

http://jerome.galica.free.fr/marvel/Spiderman/SpideyAnimation.gif
Hehe...

The Navigator

12-04-2004, 12:01 PM

Oh, and here's some SM3 teaser poster stuff I did:
http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v488/RabbitSamurai5/Spidey3teaser.jpg
http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v488/RabbitSamurai5/spidey3venomteasercopy.jpg

Venom_uk

12-04-2004, 12:09 PM

Nicley done. I especially like the 2nd one :up:
On the first one though it says 'May 3rd 2004'...typo???

Your dreaming if you think Venom's gonna be in S-M3 btw. ;)

The Navigator

12-04-2004, 12:11 PM

Well....I made it right after SM1 came out. I was hopeful and just forgot to change it. ;)

Venom_uk

12-04-2004, 12:12 PM

Well....I made it right after SM1 came out. I was hopeful and just forgot to change it. ;)
Oooooh right.

Damn! You where hopefull! lol :)

The Navigator

12-04-2004, 12:13 PM

Yes, I was. And still am. :D

Spike_x1

12-05-2004, 09:38 PM

Hi guys. I've been mostly out of the loop concerning Venom for a while now, but I'm trying to get back in the swing of things.
I hope to God that Eddie isn't dead. I don't want him to die like a wuss, but somehow I wasn't really surprised by this turn of events. The writing concerning Eddie has taken a huge dive over the last couple of years. He used to be an incredible badass, had a hilarious sense of sick humor (furthering his twisted reflection of Spider-man), and had a morbid sense of morals which set him apart from most of the other villains. Refer to picture below.
http://img76.exs.cx/img76/2656/e7evenom1.jpg
Ahh... memories. :D

The Navigator

12-06-2004, 05:02 PM

Ah, yes. His really strange set of values was always what made him interesting to me....not the "slobber and drool" aspect we saw later. :(

Spike_x1

12-06-2004, 05:18 PM

The Navigator

12-06-2004, 06:46 PM

It did--just not in the US. Thanks, Marvel. :mad:

Spike_x1

12-06-2004, 08:39 PM

That includes Canada, doesn't it? :(

Venom Drool

12-06-2004, 10:08 PM

yea me thinks :(

Venom_uk

12-07-2004, 01:01 PM

When is the DVD of the Venom Saga from the animated series come out? IMO that was undoubtably the best storyarc in that entire series, which was also good because they built up Eddie's character throughout the episodes until his real time to shine, instead of introducing him just one or two issues before he became Venom like in the comics. :venom: :up:
Yeah, theres some legal issue going on between Marvel & Disney right now which is basically stopping Marvel from releasing the 'Venom Saga' in the US (& Canada) but not here in the UK. Which is strange but there ya go! Which propably means we wont get to see another Spider-man cartoon DVD until they sort this s**t out.

venom892

12-07-2004, 08:08 PM

The Navigator

12-07-2004, 08:16 PM

Hey guys I recently started a New message board in which you can talk about comics,games,Anime,etc.I was wondering if any of you whould want to join.Here's a link http://venom89.proboards37.com/

Also to stay on topic I love Venom!

You'd better. :mad:
;)

How does the registration work? Because I wanna start posting fanfic stuff on that sight right now, instead of waiting for e-mail confirmation.

venom892

12-07-2004, 08:26 PM

Well as soon as you register you get an e-mail with your password.After you login you can post and edit your profile.

The Navigator

12-07-2004, 08:27 PM

Well, yeah, but I can't check e-mail on this computer. :mad:
Ah, well.

venom892

12-07-2004, 08:33 PM

Why can't you?

The Navigator

12-07-2004, 08:35 PM

Because I can't. This library doesn't have the e-mail service I do. :mad:

venom892

12-07-2004, 08:51 PM

When you get a chance you can post your fan fics.

The Navigator

12-07-2004, 08:56 PM

Thankee. You read 'em?

venom892

12-07-2004, 09:10 PM

I read alot of fan fics.Recently however haven't read any.

The Navigator

12-07-2004, 09:13 PM

Ah. Gotcha.

Venom_uk

12-09-2004, 01:42 PM

Whey hey! My Venom collection continues to grow. Got this sweet looking Venom figure from the 90's cartoon show in the mail today off of eBay...

http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v426/Venom_uk/Venom10.jpg

Slight sticker damage to one corner, other then that, excellent condition considering its about 9-10 years old!

:D:up:

venom892

12-09-2004, 02:16 PM

I scored that ebay a long time ago.Have hanging on my wall.

Venom_uk

12-09-2004, 02:25 PM

I scored that ebay a long time ago.Have hanging on my wall.
Yeah, theres quite afew on there actually, going pretty cheap too. I only payed £6.99 (including P&P) which for a figure like this is pretty good I think.

Symbiotica

12-09-2004, 10:17 PM

fever red

12-10-2004, 09:33 AM

Aaah! Oh, God, it's, d@mn, oh, wow, niiiice. Ohh, man! What a concept, Nemo, the framed faces; her posture is so perfect; I do love her hand. I always love your pencil work, with just the simple lines. The color is nice for the added texture and surface sensuality, but I always prefer the direct, frank communication of the lines- the body language that you speak so well. You must e-mail it to Bad S! Do you have her e-mail? If not, I could forward it to her. Also, I can give your address to her, if you'd like. I'm sure she'll want to compliment you once she sees this.
Seriously, I prefer your work to any career fantasy artist.

Venom_uk

12-10-2004, 10:38 AM

Cool pic, UK.... I'd never be able to resist deboxing him, though. I have the Carnage from that series and he was deboxed before you could say "slice and dice!" [love the rest of your collection as well...!] Kept the box, but Carny had to be free, you know how he is about confinement http://img49.exs.cx/img49/6831/Carnage.gif

I like this Venom, maybe I need one of these, too. Dammit I am STILL looking for the S6 boxed set, guess I'll have to get it off eBay one day...
Thanks Sym, glad you like the little fellow. I've got to admit, I am very tempted to rip the blighter out of the box, purley to see what exactly his 'Jaw Chomping Action' is all about! & If I had abit more space in my room right now, I think I would have. But my Marvel Legends Juggernaut & Apocalypse are taking up the space of 3 additinal figures by themselves! Big buggers that they are! lol
I also have a Spider-man Classics Carnage & Ultimate Lizard stored away in the attitic, because I don't have room to display them right now :(
I've seen the Carnage from this series on the back of the Venom box. Looks nice. Comes with inter-changable weapons & big evil grin! :up:
I need some new shelves for X-Mas I think...
I can't believe your having trouble finding the Sinister 6 boxset! EVERY toy shop in my area, from the big corporate ones down to the little private ones sells it in my area. Only thing around here you can get that has 'Marvel Legends' on it infact! lol
I would offer to pick one up for you & send it over, but it would probably cost more then what you could get it for on eBay! Pound to the Dollar is not so hot right now.
In other news, to celebrate my passing a final today that determined the entire *future* of my career, no joke... I shall post this subversive cropped spoiler-pic that will be here only a short while. I never leave my pix up long, I think they bore people anyways. Pencil rough, a lot of stuff will change esp. her hand on Venom's chest, which I'm having BUNCHES of trouble with.

This takes place underwater, for those of you who have not read the book; the positioning isn't quite as out-there as it may appear. Reduced gravity, y'know.

http://pic3.picturetrail.com/VOL17/812957/5809649/76144106.jpg

This is a different interpretation of a scene from Venom #15...? I think it was. I dunno about body-proportions, I think her body might be too big. They'll both end up wearing the spider-emblem, of course.... Great scene, really fired my imagination, even if I doubt the water in NY's sewers is quite the crystal-clear aqua-color we saw in the book. [as if...!]

Go ahead, throw stuff - I'm deranged, I know it. I like to paint the most uh, unusual stuff. Warped. That is me.

WAITING for finals to be OVER:
~n.
Congrats on passing your final Sym. I have no idea what the hell that means, but I'm sure it's a good thing, so very well done :):up:

Also, you artwork continues to impress me. How you come up with this stuff is beyond me. You just have on hellofa imagination to think this stuff up! I love the way the to Symbiotes seem to flow & connect to each other effortlessly. Very nicley done.
Can't wait to see this piece finished. Good work :up:

Venom_uk

12-10-2004, 10:49 AM

OMG!!!

Remember that super cool, kick ass 12" Venom figure that was showen in here a few weeks back? No? Ok, this one then...

http://www.action-figure.com/images/04/11/venom/v1.jpg

Remember now? Yes? Good :)

Well, I've just managed to find an online UK retailer that will hopefully (fingers crossed) be selling this bad boy! I've already placed my order with them so hopefully, within the next month or so, I'll have him! hehehehe! :venom:
For once I wont have to hunt through eBay! YES!!! :D

Oh yeah, you can find him here Epicheros.com (http://www.epicheroes.com/webshop/byproductCategory.asp?ParentCategoryID=6&ChildParentID=1369&SubName=Real%20Action%20Heroes%20Action%20Figures) for a very reasonable £99.99. Although I did just recieve an e-mail off them saying that it's not a sure thing 'cos only 1000 are being made so you might get your oreder cancelled or something! Anway, good luck fellow Venomites! :up:

Symbiotica

12-10-2004, 03:10 PM

Thank you for your praise, you guys...

Years ago I bought this book by Howard Schatz called "Waterdance," its a book of photographs he took of various ballet-dancers posing underwater, most of the photos are nudes or almost-nudes. I've been using poses out of that thing for years in various projects! I took the basic pose for this piece out of that. I'd post a scan, but both the people in it are completely naked & I'd get banned :gg:

Sure, if you think Bad S. would like to see this I'm willing to email her a copy, Fever. Or just post a link to this exact page over on KM; either is fine with me.

UK: "Congrats on passing your final Sym. I have no idea what the hell that means, but I'm sure it's a good thing, so very well done"

The short version: Yesterday I took my Administration of Medications final exam [I'm a student nurse.] This is a math-based course, we had to calculate dosages for both by-mouth and IV medications, and those IV problems can get very complex. We had 33 questions and if we missed more than 3... we were out. We'd either have to retake the course, or if we'd screwed up in any other class too, we'd get kicked completely OUT of the program. So literally everything was on the line, our whole futures as nurses.

As we finished, we'd hand in our test and then had to go hang around in the hall till the instructor graded our tests. There's about 70 people in the class, so we had to wait a bit... he'd grade 5 or 6, and come out and tell those people if they passed or not.

Everybody in the class was just about sick from tension and fear. It was just awful, we were all so scared. The best students in the class were scared. EVERYBODY.

When I found out I passed, I felt like I had fought in a war: just totally emotionally drained.

Finals are alllllll-most over, I am so looking forward to being able to work on:

this picture

my Venom-Patricia fanfic

my "Consumption" Venom resin kit

my long-gathering-dust Volks 1/6 scale "Corporal Hicks" conversion: I took a Volks 12" action-figure that looks kinda like Michael Biehn and sculpted Colonial Marine armor onto him...

my Horizon GG rescue...

And finishing my Horizon Venom - who's waited all semester to get his paint finished!

So I'm in a pretty good mood these days :gg: Seriously, I think yesterday took a YEAR off my life!

Venom_uk

12-10-2004, 03:27 PM

The short version: Yesterday I took my Administration of Medications final exam [I'm a student nurse.] This is a math-based course, we had to calculate dosages for both by-mouth and IV medications, and those IV problems can get very complex. We had 33 questions and if we missed more than 3... we were out. We'd either have to retake the course, or if we'd screwed up in any other class too, we'd get kicked completely OUT of the program. So literally everything was on the line, our whole futures as nurses.

As we finished, we'd hand in our test and then had to go hang around in the hall till the instructor graded our tests. There's about 70 people in the class, so we had to wait a bit... he'd grade 5 or 6, and come out and tell those people if they passed or not.

Everybody in the class was just about sick from tension and fear. It was just awful, we were all so scared. The best students in the class were scared. EVERYBODY.

When I found out I passed, I felt like I had fought in a war: just totally emotionally drained.
:eek: Damn! That sounds like a hellova lot of work! My hat off to you.

Very well done on passing :up::up::up: & good luck becoming a nurse too. Hopefully all your hard work will have payed off.
A cousin of mine passed her nurses exam a few years back now, she loves it.

I must admit, I don't envy anyone doing this kinda thing, exams ect. I had enough of that in school.

Anyway, once again, congrats :):up:

Symbiotica

12-10-2004, 04:48 PM

fever red

12-10-2004, 07:04 PM

Wheee! Now Nemo can come out to play! Yaaay!
I'm giddy, mostly for you, and a bit for me.
I feel you on the Venom thing. Should have been Eddie. And why two of the saddest, most wasteful, anguished possible deaths had to be inflicted- cancer AND suicide? What's NEXT, he pulls through, and they give him necrotizing fasciitis?

CKayote

12-10-2004, 11:39 PM

They'll bring him back to life and reunite him with the symbiote only for him then to discover that Angelo had another horrible disease that the symbiote just happens to not be able to cure, and that it just happens to have been transfered to him via the other.

Oh, and Nemo, your art kicks ass. And congrats on your final.

CKayote@worldnet.att.net

Venom_uk

12-11-2004, 09:47 AM

I'm not going to say this in the Comics forum, because it'll just start a big argument in there. I've just finished reading MK-Spidey #8 [yeah, I'm way behind, I know it.]

This was an absolutely beautiful issue to see, it really was. The art was perfect, just about. That was a fabulous fight between Spidey and... Venom?

But that wasn't really Venom, was it? Every time we saw his face we were forcefully reminded of that. In every other way Venom looked just about perfect. Right size, not stupid-looking, not the size of a 747 - but still huge and intimidating. Beautiful, in his own way.

The setup was just great, the atmosphere was great. Night-time fight, we don't see many of those. That shot of Spidey going through the windshield of the delivery-truck is just perfect, he's in such top form here. Dodson does great fights, he really gets the physicality of what's going on across.

The only redeeming factor with "Venom" here was we actually got to see the symbiote jump ship, after telling the unfortunate 90-lb. weakling, "You know your problem, Angelo?... You just don't have enough Venom." Now THAT was sweet indeed.

I just REALLY do not want them to let Brock die, I really do NOT want to see that, I hope the symbiote returns to him and saves his life. Brock was the one who deserved to have this fight-sequence, he's earned it. But no. Some 90-lb. weakling has to be Venom during the best symbiotic fight-sequence we've seen in a long, long time.

it ain't right.
Yeah, probably safer posting in here. Comic forums can get abit hostile sometimes. Especially when Venom's concerned!

I agree with you that the might between Spidey & *cough* Venom was indeed a good fight to watch unfold. Full of action. Very nicley done by Dodson. But like you said, it wasn't Venom, Eddie's Venom fighting Spidey so it did feel abit 'empty', like, do we really care how this ends up???
As it happens the Symbiote saw the light & dumped the little gimp in mid air from about 50 stories up. BEST part of the issue. No question. That brought a huge smile to my face I have to admit.
Theres your new fancy, kick ass VenomII people! Laying on the floor, bloodied in his boxers! MUHAHAHAHAHA!!! :venom:
As for the whole Eddie comiting suicide thing & being dead, nope, I'm not buying it. It didn't actually say he was dead. They just implyed that he was. Said he was dying & that he might not last the night & left it like that. For all we know, the Symbiote might have headed straight off to find Eddie & 'revived' him so to speak. So Eddie dead? No chance. :up:

venom892

12-11-2004, 11:47 AM

Have you guys read MKSM #9?Because it seems that Mac gargan will become the new Venom

Venom_uk

12-11-2004, 12:37 PM

Have you guys read MKSM #9?Because it seems that Mac gargan will become the new Venom
I havn't read it yet no. I'll be getting my copy next week hopefully.
I knew that Scorpion was behind Aunt Mays kidnapping but I didn't know that he was going to be the new Venom! That kinda sucks to be honest! :(

CKayote

12-11-2004, 01:02 PM

Dang, I hate when they merge villans. Venom's going to look rather odd with a tail.

Though I suppose they could have found someone worse.

CKayote@worldnet.att.net

Venom_uk

12-11-2004, 01:06 PM

Dang, I hate when they merge villans. Venom's going to look rather odd with a tail.

Though I suppose they could have found someone worse.

CKayote@worldnet.att.net
Yeah, could be ALOT worse I guess. But, we'll have to wait & see I suppose...

Symbiotica

12-11-2004, 02:42 PM

... I don't see Scorpion wearing the symbiote long, to be honest. I don't know why, I just don't. They dont seem like a good match.

And now, in the best symbiotic tradition, time for a little sadistic amusement:

http://pic3.picturetrail.com/VOL17/812957/5809649/76294207.jpg