Liefeld Appreciation Thread

[Phoney Bone]

Thanks, for making us feel better about our art.:up:


http://adlo.dreamers.com/estudios/comparativas.htm(Different Language, but you'll get the point)

http://www.milehighcomics.com/firstlook/marvel/xforce1/10.jpg

Notice how Domino's chest is the same in every angle.....

http://www.milehighcomics.com/firstlook/marvel/xforce1/cover.jpg

Cable: Dammit, lost my elbow again.........

http://ape-law.com/GAF/Page06/index.html

A little commentary on his Captain Erica run.....


And we'll top it off with a classic.

http://img26.photobucket.com/albums/v77/DBMstuff/liefeld_cap.gif

[Phoney Bone]

Here's fun for the whole family. Catch the differences in these two pages.

Page 1

http://images.comicbookresources.com/litg/XFORCE2pg4.jpg

http://images.comicbookresources.com/litg/XFORCE2pg5.jpg

[masteryoda]

Originally posted by bmfunny


http://img26.photobucket.com/albums/v77/DBMstuff/liefeld_cap.gif
Nice jugs on Cap. :o

[Phoney Bone]

I concur.:up:

[WeeZiTe]

I remember the thread devoted to that Cap picture. :up:

Liefield's creativeness and artistic abilities always astonished me. Taking "Slade" and making it "Wade." If that isn't brilliant, I don't know what is.

[Elijya]

wow. that spanish page is BAD. I never realized he was such a rip-off

[Mr. Edward Hyde]

Liefeild sucks ass. I dont even know how to pronounce his name. I bought some back issues of captain america like , two years ago, then when i got home and started to read it i ripped it up and put it in the trash.

Hint: It was by Liefeild.

[newnoiseimage]

the guuy gardner pic is exact, even the position of the fingers.

WOW!

[Tropico]

I can just hear Domino yelling "SHORYUKEN" as she gives that uppercut in the first panel. MAn, I thought it was bad enough with Liefield repeating the same stuff, but I have a lower view of him since seeing that Spanish page. Tributes my a$$.

[Unthinkable]

:(

[Démon]

So Liefield's a rip-off artist, as well as a horrible one when it comes to proportions? Pretty sad. He can't ever rip-off other people's art properly.

[X]

DIE! ALL OF YOU!!! :mad: :mad: :mad:

[Elijya]

um, why x?



is it me, or has he actually gotten worse?

[X]

Bleh, I just... I just... hate liefeld so much... :( :( :(

[Majin Boo]

http://image2.milehighcomics.com/istore/images/fullsize/56757119524.93.GIF

[Movies205]

It not that he's a bad artist, it just he never took time to master the craft or polish his skills so now everything he draws looks awkward and silly:(

[Kable24]

It's funny because in the 90's I thought he was an awesome artist and I really liked his stuff, but damn he is a major ass clown with the ripping off and Yes his art style has gotten worse.

[PaleRider]

I have never been a fan of his EVER, but seeing that spanish page just blew my mind, then seeing that Cap pic?! How does this guy have a job in comics?!

[Elijya]

someone link to an online translator, I wanna see what our amigo is saying

[Kunstpark_Ost]

That Cap pick is pretty bad but I was a big fan of his during New Mutants and early X-Force. Hell I got my letter printed in X-Force 7. I bought the first few issues of YOungblood and thought the art was good but his writing was kindergarten quality. He was lauded as a real talent in the late 80s early 90s alongside Mcfarlane, Lee, Keown and Portacio.

[Elijya]

Liefeld's problem is this: most artist actually learn to draw through classes and books and real-life study. Liefeld learned to draw from looking at comics.

if someone actually taught him things like proportion and anatomy, different facial expressions, and backgrounds, he could actually be an amazing artist, but unfortunately, I don't think he's ever cared or had the dedication to improve himself in these areas

[Elijya]

figured we should bring these over here

http://www.penny-arcade.com/images/2004/20040722l.jpg
http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v73/incurock31/liefield.jpg


I think I want to put that Liefeld Rules pic on a t-shirt, could probably sell a few, to boot

[TheCorpulent1]

Originally posted by Elijya
Liefeld's problem is this: most artist actually learn to draw through classes and books and real-life study. Liefeld learned to draw from looking at comics.

if someone actually taught him things like proportion and anatomy, different facial expressions, and backgrounds, he could actually be an amazing artist, but unfortunately, I don't think he's ever cared or had the dedication to improve himself in these areas
That's true. That Spanish comparison page has one pic that Liefield ripped off of an actual photograph and it is by far the best figure on there. I learned to draw mostly from comics myself, but once I started really getting into art and drawing from observation a lot of the proportion stuff just fell into place. I don't mean to brag because I don't think I'm that great an artist myself, but judging from that page with Domino and her incredible shrinking head up there, I think I have a better handle on most proportion and anatomy aspects than our Mr. Liefield.

Elijya: Good to see you are still master of the funny comic strips. That first pic is great. :D :up:

[Elijya]

here's a (bad computer) translation of the first article

Al to see you join these two images, there is who finds a test of the ones that calls "the kidnappings of Liefeld". It is sad that there be thus, incapable people to see slightly more than drawings on role, without knowing to interpret them.

Certain it is that it there is some seemed among these two images: the disposition of the vignettes, the base in the ice (but nobody it says that George Pérez plagiarized to George Lucas, not), a group of superhéroes young, etc.

But is likewise certain that there are many significant differences. Only an assiduous reader would be able to carry out the connection among both images, but only a True Lover of the Cómics would be able to understand what occurs.

Therefore does not be a matter of a kidnapping, not. It is neither a coincidence, therefore Rob does not leave anything al chance. Speaking of homage would be too much formalism.

Is a matter of a simple joke. A joke. A wink al reader.

It given that it seems that it there is incapable people to understand it, I see me in the always ridiculous situation, to explain the joke to the ones that it they have not caught to the first one.

For it we go back until a few years TO.R. (Before Rob), that would correspond with the first half of the decade of the 80. We recall: a single collection of mutant, Secret Wars as unica great saga cross-overiana, Rob in the anonymity, and ¡The War of Editorial!

It was an epoch in which Marvel and DC dominated the market in a position oligopolística, what conducted to inevitable confrontations, that always we finished in condemnations, accusations, despotriques... in short.

In that context, Marvel removed al market a new collection that today is point of indispensable reference for the industry of the cómic, not by being the first one "spin-off" of the Patrol X, lider indisputable for sale, but by being the collection where later, Rob (¡Aleluya!) would bring himself to light al public in general. If gentlemen, yes. I am speaking of the mythical one "The New Mutants" (The New Mutant).

Immediately, the collection suffered hard criticisms on the part of the followers of DC, and they accused it of being a calco of their collection "Teen Titans". Calco. Kidnapping. Hard words without doubt. All we know it.

Nevertheless, you said attacks did not avoid that the collection to rise like the foam and it was consolidated as one of the collections spoiled of Marvel.

But everything that rises drop, and in full decadence of the collection, and when nothing seemed to be able saving it, He arrived. Rob!

The remainder is history. Apparition of Cable, elimination of soft personages, reform of the group, transformation in X-FORCE and the start of a new one Was for the cómics. Was the year 1 D.R.

Inevitably, Rob felt a great affection by the collection that the opportunity to show gave it its was worth, for which in the first pages of its first number of X-FORCE, defended al young group of superhéroes with a small joke. For it, it began the history with subtle references to one of the most significant numbers of the collection supposedly "plagiarized" : the 39 of "Teen Titans" (that now has acquired an astronomical price in the circles of collectors, thanks to Rob).

In fact, examining with detail the vignettes, we find things as the phrase "Experience is all" (the experience is it all) in clearly allusion to the difference of age among the tanned leader of X-FORCE and in callow leader of the Titans. Thus same, if we ask someone that understand the language of signs, will tell ourselves that the poses of the personages of X-FORCE in the robbery to the base is not coincidental, but read in War Tube-Path Bullet sequence-Feral-Star Broken-Cable we obtain the phrase "We till not Teen neither Titans" (we are Not adolescents neither titans). Sublime.

Thus therefore we see that to accuse this imágen of kidnapping is not to have understood anything. Not it to have grasped the subtle humor of Rob. Not know the epoch TO.R. that although lacked the presence of Rob (and because of it can seem that it lacks interest), already it had some its prophet as Al Milgrom.

It is ridiculous that they have you to explain the joke for reírte, and to do it when the others already have stopped to laugh.

[TheCorpulent1]

Originally posted by Elijya
here's a (bad computer) translation of the first article
The sad part is that that translation is still more readable than some English-speaking posters' posts around here... :(

[Elijya]

someone find out rob's email address

[Elijya]

:scared and scarred for life:


I'm not sure what's more frightening, the page, or the background

http://www.sketchyorigins.com/comics/forumdisplay.php?f=40

[Elijya]

oh, wait, it's a joke forum, it's right next to the official bill jemas appreciation forum

[Elijya]

the Fighting American story...

http://members.aol.com/chrisv82/america.htm

[Elijya]

http://www.silverbulletcomicbooks.com/features/97082851826138.htm

an old interview with him, where he addresses some of the "flack" that he gets. pretty interesting, but I don't think the interviewer digs hard enough

[The Hero]

Originally posted by bmfunny
Here's fun for the whole family. Catch the differences in these two pages.

Page 1

http://images.comicbookresources.com/litg/XFORCE2pg4.jpg

http://images.comicbookresources.com/litg/XFORCE2pg5.jpg I don't get it.:(

[Tropico]

I didn't bother to read the Spanish pages (even though Spanish is my main language), but I did now that I says the "translation". I didn't bother reading them because I thought they were critisizing Liefield for plagiarism. I was surprised to see it was the total opposite.

Bear in mind that the page is made by Liefield cultists, in essence "Rob's b!+ches". The Teen Titan comparison they justify taht it was a joke, a wink of the eye to the reader. The gist of it is that only the TRUE comic conosseur would catch THAT meaning, that Liefiled meant it as a good humored joke. I wouldn't even bother to debate with these people as the even use B.R. (Before Rob) and A.R. (After Rob). There's much to be said about people that quantify the comic era as "before or after Rob Liefield". I can simpathyze with being a fan, but this is Extreme.

[Tropico]

I was reading the other comparisons in the Spanish comics page, but I can't go on. I'm physically revolted. I can't understand how people with such obvious intelligence from the way they write couls, at the same time, be so ignorant. I'm glad that you people can't read Spanish,

[Phoney Bone]

Originally posted by The Hero
I don't get it.:( Spot all the changes between the character from the first to the second page. Ex. First page, the brown strips around his leg are thin and featureless, second page they're thick pouches.

[Phoney Bone]

Originally posted by Elijya
figured we should bring these over here

http://www.penny-arcade.com/images/2004/20040722l.jpg
That was my sig for a bit.:D

[Marcdachamp]

Ha ha ha, that's from Penny arcade, right? Oh man, that's funny.

[Darthphere]

The thing I dont gte is that Rob knows nobody likes him and so does Marvel but he keeps drawing and Marvel keeps hiring. Chuck Austen got the message why cant he?

[Elijya]

I posted a link to an interview with him where they talk about it up there, go read it

[Unthinkable]

http://ofoulon.free.fr/data/couvertures/marvel/x-force/x-force%201.jpg

The "classic" X force 1.

[Zev]

Originally posted by Unthinkable.50
http://ofoulon.free.fr/data/couvertures/marvel/x-force/x-force%201.jpg

The "classic" X force 1.

Cable's shoulders are as big as duffel bags filled with bowling balls!

[Darthphere]

Originally posted by Unthinkable.50
http://ofoulon.free.fr/data/couvertures/marvel/x-force/x-force%201.jpg

The "classic" X force 1.

The sad thing is I have 2 copies of that.:(

[Elijya]

I have three :D
the REALLY sad part? somebody paid $25,000 for all the orginal artwork from that issue

[Movies205]

It was popular at the time, imagine the people who bought pet rocks:D

[Kable24]

I have three copies of that still and I can find tons of them in my comic book stores 50 cent bin.

[Majin Boo]

Originally posted by Kable24
I have three copies of that still and I can find tons of them in my comic book stores 50 cent bin.

that's prolly because they printed a zillion of them, because people like you guys were buying 3 at a time, thinking it would be worth $$$ tomorrow.

[Symbiotica]

Liefeld's problem is that he has absolutely no understanding of perspective. He also has little understanding of biomechanics.

That, and he puts the face of a mongoloid ten-year-old girl on every man he draws. Why does everyone he draws have a pin-head? It's just stupid-looking.

[MicroLives]

My comic store had about three of all the X-Force issues from about 1-20. They're all a dollar.

Rob's work really is bad, and even though new X-Force means Shatterstar's coming bac, I'm finding it really hard to get excited. I like Nicieza's work though, but I don't think he can save it.

[DBM]

Liefield's art was OK to begin with. It was novel and new. But sadly, whereas most artists grow in the trade over the years and expand their abilities for the better, Liefield did not.

[The Leaguer]

Originally posted by bmfunny
http://images.comicbookresources.com/litg/XFORCE2pg5.jpg

Does the dude with the black hair look like Shang Tsung from the first Mortal Kombat movie to anyone else?

[MicroLives]

"Your Soul is Mine!"

[Elijya]

tomorrow I'm getting the "Liefeld Rules" Image put on a T-Shirt, and hopefully will wear it to Wizard World Chicago this weekend

[punishermax]

I'm going there too

[CantThinkOfAName]

Originally posted by Elijya
tomorrow I'm getting the "Liefeld Rules" Image put on a T-Shirt, and hopefully will wear it to Wizard World Chicago this weekend haha:D

[Elijya]

I'm debating whether or not to have a few of them made and try to sell or trade them there

[DBM]

Originally posted by Elijya
tomorrow I'm getting the "Liefeld Rules" Image put on a T-Shirt, and hopefully will wear it to Wizard World Chicago this weekend

That would be ****ing sweet. And you should make two and give me one for free because I'm the one who discovered the picture for it.

I'm hoping to have time to go to WWC on Saturday so maybe I'll see you wearing it.

[Elijya]

rioght now it's a maybe, but I'll pm you my cell number if it becomes definite, and we should hook up for lunch or something

[DBM]

Originally posted by Elijya
rioght now it's a maybe, but I'll pm you my cell number if it becomes definite, and we should hook up for lunch or something

Sounds cool. I don't know if I'll be there or not yet because of work but if I am it'd be cool to get together.

[Elijya]

yeah, I wasn't planning on going, but I'd mentioned it in passing to my dad a few weeks ago, and the other day he calls me wanting to know when it is. I debated for awhile, because if we go, we'll have to rush all the arrangements,. plus, I don't have as much $$$ as I'd like to for a con

but I can get free Artist alley passes.....

[Unthinkable]

Damn you and your connections. :mad:

[Nitehawk013]

Originally posted by Elijya
the Fighting American story...

http://members.aol.com/chrisv82/america.htm


You know...both of these guys look about 10,00 times more impressive than our Captain America. I really don't get all the flack Liefield gets. "He can't draw proportions right". Big deal...it's a comic. Personally I am a Jim Lee fan above all other artists, but Liefield wasn't that bad in my opinion.
If you are going to diss him for improper proportions or illogical drawings, why not attack others. Whoever draws the Hulk should not draw him as a cut and defined muscle monster. With his strength there is no weight on earth pretty much that would provide enough resistance for his muscles to be ripped an dcut the way he is drawn. If anything he should just be a big green guy with the build of a stalky guy.

[DBM]

Originally posted by Nitehawk013
You know...both of these guys look about 10,00 times more impressive than our Captain America. I really don't get all the flack Liefield gets. "He can't draw proportions right". Big deal...it's a comic. Personally I am a Jim Lee fan above all other artists, but Liefield wasn't that bad in my opinion.
If you are going to diss him for improper proportions or illogical drawings, why not attack others. Whoever draws the Hulk should not draw him as a cut and defined muscle monster. With his strength there is no weight on earth pretty much that would provide enough resistance for his muscles to be ripped an dcut the way he is drawn. If anything he should just be a big green guy with the build of a stalky guy.

Big difference between drawing the Hulk and and a regular person like Captain America for instance. The Hulk is supposed to be freakishly huge and unproportioned, that's his bit.

Captain America is supposed to be the pinacle of human perfection and therefore should be drawn as such not as

http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v77/DBMstuff/liefeld_cap.gif

And Jim Lee, while not my favorite artist, is lightyears ahead of Liefield.

[Darthphere]

Originally posted by Nitehawk013
You know...both of these guys look about 10,00 times more impressive than our Captain America. I really don't get all the flack Liefield gets. "He can't draw proportions right". Big deal...it's a comic. Personally I am a Jim Lee fan above all other artists, but Liefield wasn't that bad in my opinion.
If you are going to diss him for improper proportions or illogical drawings, why not attack others. Whoever draws the Hulk should not draw him as a cut and defined muscle monster. With his strength there is no weight on earth pretty much that would provide enough resistance for his muscles to be ripped an dcut the way he is drawn. If anything he should just be a big green guy with the build of a stalky guy.

Step away from the crack.

[TheCorpulent1]

Originally posted by DBM
And Jim Lee, while not my favorite artist, is lightyears ahead of Liefield.
I don't think light years quite conveys it. Jim Lee is so far beyond Liefield that there's really no comparison.

[Darthphere]

12 parsecs.

[Phoney Bone]

Originally posted by Elijya
tomorrow I'm getting the "Liefeld Rules" Image put on a T-Shirt, and hopefully will wear it to Wizard World Chicago this weekend It'd be so cool if he was there.:D

You should totally get a picture with him in it.

[Averagelad]

Ah...Liefeld appreciation...I appreciate that I don't see much of his work these days...

[CantThinkOfAName]

Originally posted by Elijya
I'm debating whether or not to have a few of them made and try to sell or trade them there Id buy it:o

[Unthinkable]

I'd buy it. :up:

[MicroLives]

If people wanna defend Liefeld, that's fine. But please don't defend his use of terrible proportions. With so many other artists who CAN draw right, there's no reason for Liefeld to not take the time to say "Wow, Cable's head looks like it's the size of a pea, maybe I should make it bigger."

[Elijya]

yeah, I've decided I'm gonna make 5 or 10 Liefeld Rules shirts, and either trade em or give em away. I can't legally sell them, I don't think

although, that may be one of the perks of my artist alley pass, I may be able to sell them

[The Hero]

Originally posted by Elijya
yeah, I've decided I'm gonna make 5 or 10 Liefeld Rules shirts, and either trade em or give em away. I can't legally sell them, I don't think

although, that may be one of the perks of my artist alley pass, I may be able to sell them If Liefeld's there,sell them right in front of him.He might actualy think someone is giving him a complement.:o

[Elijya]

Liefle'd going to be at chicago con this weekend!!! I get to meet him! he's totally getting a Liefeld Rules T-Shirt

I have a new opinion on rob: from now on, he's just going to be one of those lame celebrities I'm fond of, like Mr. T or Hasselhoff

[Doc Destruction]

http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v73/incurock31/liefield.jpg

OMG, I just spewed coffee all over my workspace. Thanks alot! Hahahahaha!

[Elijya]

you're welcome (although, you can thank Ben Urich if you see him around)

[NightRiver]

Man, that should be against the law! Shouldnt the artist who he ripped off be pist! I know I would. :mad:

[Elijya]

he's not ripping them off, they're "homages" :rolleyes:

[Elijya]

ooo, oo, brb with a goodie

[Elijya]

I believe this belongs here

Originally posted by Elijya
http://img59.photobucket.com/albums/v180/elijya/undercovers/2000yb.jpg

[NightRiver]

Super Hombre RULES TO THE MAX!!

[Elijya]

hmm, I'm actually going to see if Rob will give me a shattertsar sketch

[The Hero]

Just when you thought it was safe to go back to your comic book store.....




http://www.mycomicshop.com/webpics/BACAT001.JPG



Someone should buy it and scan it,just so we can mock each individual sketch.:up:

[Darthphere]

It doesnt look that bad.....



Ummm actually it does. Sorry.

[The Hero]

http://www.nuklearpower.com/sosaguestcomics/sosacomic1.gif

[Phoney Bone]

Hilarious.

[NightRiver]

Just when you thought it was safe to go back to your comic book store.....




http://www.mycomicshop.com/webpics/BACAT001.JPG




Well, that picture actually doesnt look too bad. I wonder where he stole it, oh excuse me, "homaged" it from.

[PaleRider]

TheHero, that was hilarious. I'll be laughing at that for awhile.

[The Hero]

TheHero, that was hilarious. I'll be laughing at that for awhile.
Alas,'twas not me who made it.

Click here and be schooled (http://www.nuklearpower.com/)

[Elijya]

http://ape-law.com/GAF/Page06/

[Phoney Bone]

I posted that in my initial post idiot.:p

[Phoney Bone]

NEW CRAP!

First his "Ultimate Youngblood Cover". Wow, could Rock Man and Helmet Head's positions be anymore impossible? According to this peice, Rock Boy's lower jaw goes all the way to his neck, so he must look similar to that Terrence & Phillip from "South Park" when he speaks. I'm not sure how Big Perky Rack Girl can stand. Those have gotta hurt.

http://img77.exs.cx/img77/8687/bloodsport.jpg


Now, this isn't actually by him, it's from one of his apprentices(yeah, really) and this guy is following spotlessy in Rob's filled with **** footsteps. First off, you get 100 points for naming who these chracters exactly look like! That one dude's name is Thor, which they technically are allowed to do since Marvel doesn't hold the rights. BUT WHAT I WANT TO KNOW is how Thor's huge hammer names suck a small hole through that guys' head!?

http://img77.exs.cx/img77/7520/newsyb3.jpg

[Mr. Edward Hyde]

...wait, wait, wait...I don't understand, is that a new ultimate series? :confused: And isn't that quicksilver?

[Phoney Bone]

No, he's just ripping off the design. No, wait. I'm mistaken. It's a "homage".:rolleyes:

Yes, it is Quicksilver, minus the bolt along his chest.

[The Hero]

WHAT?There's an Ultimate Youngblood now?:confused:

And who are the Avengers look-alikes?

[Barbelith]

How has Liefeld collared both Mark Millar and Robert Kirkman to write his new Youngblood series'? HOW? My god, that's like me getting Phil Jiminez to work on one of my scripts.

[The Hero]

NEW CRAP!

First his "Ultimate Youngblood Cover". Wow, could Rock Man and Helmet Head's positions be anymore impossible? According to this peice, Rock Boy's lower jaw goes all the way to his neck, so he must look similar to that Terrence & Phillip from "South Park" when he speaks. I'm not sure how Big Perky Rack Girl can stand. Those have gotta hurt.
Holy crap,a teenaged comic fan actualy protests the use of Big Perky Rack Girl.:up:

http://img77.exs.cx/img77/7520/newsyb3.jpg

And I'll admit,I kinda like the design of the Cap rip-off.But that's it.:o

[Wolverwam]

Are they "homages" or just HOMELY

[White_Howling]

whats the name of the guy with the hammer?

[The Lumberjack]

whats the name of the guy with the hammer?

Believe it or not, Thor. :rolleyes:

[Elijya]

anyody know the names of the rest of the characters?

[White_Howling]

great... a Thor, a Captain America, Wonderwoman, wolverine, Quicksilver, and wait whats this another captain america!!!

great... wait whats the name of the silver haired girl? Glory?

[Elijya]

huh? dude, there's only one cap rip off, the other's an Iron Man

[Cyclops]

And I'll admit,I kinda like the design of the Cap rip-off.But that's it.:o

And that's just because all that was really done was a color change from Captain Britain's outfit.

[DBM]

http://www.pvcomics.com/free/image.php?c=yirhowto&p=yirhowto02.gif

From

http://www.pvcomics.com/free/view.php?c=yirhowto

[Phoney Bone]

Heh. Yeah, McFarlane does own everything.

[Phoney Bone]

C'MON LEIFELD! It doesn't count if you copy your own peices.:D

Original peice.

http://images.comicbookresources.com/litg/FC1cover.jpg


X-Force #2

http://images.comicbookresources.com/litg/xforce18.jpg

[newnoiseimage]

it would help if you told us where or when the first was made

[Phoney Bone]

It was some unrealeased Cable series. He seems to just being using all the art from it for this.:rolleyes:

[newnoiseimage]

that is so awesomely bad.

[Saph]

Jesus Christ.

[CobraCommander]

I paged through X-Force #2 out of morbid curiosity, and oh my god.... The art is SO bad it hurts.

I mean, this is like worse than fan submissions. I can't understand how Marvel would even publish it.

I mean... I have to give Rob an OUNCE of credit. His art has an excitement about it. It has a style, and it does catch your eye. Except he never refined himself, he never evolved, he never grew out of his little confined box, he just copied and copied and copied. And the end result is the utter trash you see above. Terrible. Just terrible.

[Cyclops]

"My cheekbones are higher than yours!"
"Oh yeah? Well my eyes are beadier than yours!"
"You think that's somethin'? I've got huger thighs than you do!"
"Well, check this, ***** - I was traced off of a vintage Jack Kirby!"
".... damn."

[CobraCommander]

That about sums it up.

But don't forget "I've got a bigger gun AND sword than you!"

[The Hero]

http://home.earthlink.net/~fanboyprime/avengers/048.jpg
http://home.earthlink.net/~fanboyprime/avengers/

[NightRiver]

http://home.earthlink.net/~fanboyprime/avengers/048.jpg
http://home.earthlink.net/~fanboyprime/avengers/

HAHAHAHHAHAHAHA! Thats freakin' hilarious!!! :p

Let me add another the cover to X-Force 5, featuring Cable's new chicken wing pose:
http://marvel.com/comics/onsale/covers/1204/XFORC005_COV.jpg

[Cyclops]

Damn. Benjy's had himself a MASSIVE growth spurt. Ten feet tall, I'd guess.

[Unthinkable]

That's sadly the best Liefeld I've ever seen.

[Elijya]

actually, that's a pretty cool looking Thing

[PaleRider]

I've said it before and I'll say it again (just like everyone else one this board) How does this guy get work? I've run out of things to say bad about him.

[Elijya]

through sheer grit

actually, he probably has blackmail evidence on everybody in the industry

[Saph]

Where are the Thing's knuckles?

[Elijya]

in the sandwich he's about to serve you

:snaredrum:

[Stikmann]

Liefeld created Cable right? Or at least his look? Maybe I'm wrong but isn't the scar supposed to be on his RIGHT EYE? Since this new Xforce has come out, Liefeld has been putting it on the flashing left eye. From what I remember (and going by the action figure), it's left eye flashes, right eye scarred.

[Cyclops]

Where are the Thing's knuckles?

Nowhere. Thing doesn't need knuckles, or palms... or wrists... he's all fingers, baby.

[Symbiotica]

.... Does Cable not have SHOULDERS these days...?! Those arms are ridiculous and they are TOO SHORT!!!! Better too long than too short! Look at the elbows! Elbows tuck neatly into the curve of the waist. Or they should.

Damn that's ****ing BAD art. I am sorry, I hardly ever trash other people's art, whether its to my taste or not but that's so God-awful BAD I just can't help it. 20 lashes with a bamboo cane on the soles of the feet for this disgrace to artists everywhere, and then puree a copy of "How To Draw The Marvel Way" in a blender, add milk and make him drink it. He must be punished for abusing everyone's eyes so badly. DAMN!

Plus everyone he draws has that same damn "GRRR!" expression on their face! Male, female, it don't matter: GRRRR! All GRRRR!, all the time. I am tired of looking at it! Rant over!

[Phoney Bone]

HAHAHAHHAHAHAHA! Thats freakin' hilarious!!! :p

Let me add another the cover to X-Force 5, featuring Cable's new chicken wing pose:
http://marvel.com/comics/onsale/covers/1204/XFORC005_COV.jpg
Oh, God. What has he done to Ol Blue-Eyes?
That's so sad.:(
And wasn't Cable's metal arm the right one before?

[Barbelith]

HAHAHAHHAHAHAHA! Thats freakin' hilarious!!! :p

Let me add another the cover to X-Force 5, featuring Cable's new chicken wing pose:
http://marvel.com/comics/onsale/covers/1204/XFORC005_COV.jpg
Apparently, Johnny Storm's face, hair and pants have all melted off.
And doesn't it look like the Thing's lower jaw is actually a rocky football helmet?

[NightRiver]

Oh, God. What has he done to Ol Blue-Eyes?
That's so sad.:(
And wasn't Cable's metal arm the right one before?

Naw, Cable's metal arm was always the left one. But the scar has always been on his right eye and his left eye was the glowing one.

You know when I went to the Wizard World East Philly in july i went to the Quesada Q&A session, and someone had the cojones to ask: "So, did you guys send Liefield back to drawing school?" THe place erupted in laughter and applause. JQ got so pist and totatlly ignored the comment. Hilarious.

[Barbelith]

Naw, Cable's metal arm was always the left one. But the scar has always been on his right eye and his left eye was the glowing one.

You know when I went to the Wizard World East Philly in july i went to the Quesada Q&A session, and someone had the cojones to ask: "So, did you guys send Liefield back to drawing school?" THe place erupted in laughter and applause. JQ got so pist and totatlly ignored the comment. Hilarious.
That's totally awesome.
Big ups for whoever did that, and maybe a beer in his future if I can find him.

[Phoney Bone]

Apparently, Johnny Storm's face, hair and pants have all melted off.
And doesn't it look like the Thing's lower jaw is actually a rocky football helmet?
Ah, that means that his bottom jaw connects directly into his chest like that, so basically, he has no neck. Another "Terrence and Phillip" talker.

[Elijya]

Naw, Cable's metal arm was always the left one. But the scar has always been on his right eye and his left eye was the glowing one.

You know when I went to the Wizard World East Philly in july i went to the Quesada Q&A session, and someone had the cojones to ask: "So, did you guys send Liefield back to drawing school?" THe place erupted in laughter and applause. JQ got so pist and totatlly ignored the comment. Hilarious.


great, first he ignores internet criticism, now he ignores in person criticism. his time is done


and yo, let's hook up next year, I'm a philly boy too

[NightRiver]

great, first he ignores internet criticism, now he ignores in person criticism. his time is done


and yo, let's hook up next year, I'm a philly boy too

Course man! Where do you get your new stuff? What shops?

[The Hero]

http://vu.morrissey-solo.com/moz/perez/news/010327-1.jpg

That bastard.:mad::(

[The Hero]

So this is the face of evil...

http://www.universohq.com/quadrinhos/images/rob_liefeld.jpg

[Zev]

You know, I'm wondering why no Liefeld has made it into Worst Moments in Comic Books. So... C'mon, you've got nothing?

[The Victor]

[makes joke about how Liefeld's books are late, then makes joke about how he has no sense of proportion]
[then makes joke about his physical appearance]
The man looks like he works as a mechanic along with a guy named 'Mookie'.

[Elijya]

Course man! Where do you get your new stuff? What shops?
I get my books from Showcase in Bryn Mawr, but I'm friends with the guys at showcase/atomic city down on south street too

[Phoney Bone]

*Shakes head*


X-Force #2

http://images.comicbookresources.com/litg/20041004/xforce2.jpg


Samauri Jack

http://images.comicbookresources.com/litg/20041004/samuraijack1-art_sm.jpg

[Phoney Bone]

Bah. Here.

http://comicbookresources.com/columns/?column=13

[The Hero]

Bah. Here.

http://comicbookresources.com/columns/?column=13
It's one thing to rip off Jack Kirby,but when you rip off Samauri Jack...well,lets just hope the afterlife provides far more punishment than a message board ever could..:o

[Crimson Dynamo]

This thread is great! It gets my seal of approval:

http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v381/Crimson_Dynamo/CD_Seal_Of_Approval.jpg

http://tinypic.com/4ev5j

[Crimson Dynamo]

Apparently, Johnny Storm's face, hair and pants have all melted off.
And doesn't it look like the Thing's lower jaw is actually a rocky football helmet?

His head probably looks the same upsidedown.

[Saph]

His head probably looks the same upsidedown.

No he doesn't. I checked. I think i broke my neck. :) -thud-

[Crimson Dynamo]

It's not worth the effort..not for Liefeld anyway. :)

[Saph]

Ugh. I just read my X-Men: The Ultimate Guide, and I saw a panel obviously done by Liefeld. Basically, there's this girl who, judging by this certain picture, appears to have her head growing from her left shoulder. I kid you not.

[Saph]

Bump

[Saph]

http://www.blacklinefever.com/artists/liefeld/LiefeldProphet1cvr.jpg

[The Hero]

http://www.blacklinefever.com/artists/liefeld/LiefeldProphet1cvr.jpg
:eek:AHHHHH!It's big and pointy and wishes me harm.:(

[Elijya]

:eek:AHHHHH!It's big and pointy and wishes me harm.:(


lol :D

[Saph]

http://www.milehighcomics.com/firstlook/111704/images/xforce4p1.gif

It's.. grotesque..

[Elijya]

look, mom! no feet!

[Saph]

Let us list the problems shall we:

His torso is extremely wide.

His arms are just wrong.

One leg is longer than the other.

His chest has a face on it.

The costume is wrong.

His lips are a pink circle.

There are no shines coming from his metal, reflective claws, yet he appears to be reflecting light off his yellow costume, and opaque flesh.

Those claws can't cut butter.

Eyes are too far away from each other.


Can you find more?

[Elijya]

http://www.milehighcomics.com/firstlook/111704/images/xforce4p1.gif

It's.. grotesque..


it has an.. interesting muscle structure

[Symbiotica]

.... *What* is this muscle-structure in the armpit area? His latissimus dorsi [?spell...] are under his arms?! The Hell?

What happened to his pectorals? .... Anyone wanna guess? I don't.

What is going on with the proverbial "six-pack"? It's a six-pack that got ripped in half, then pieced back together or something...

Where is the shading to reinforce the foreshortening effect of the upper arms?

WHY DOES HE HAVE HAIR on the undersides of his arms?! Have you ever seen anyone with hair there?! Not me!

Somewhere some worthy artist is going hungry, so ~this~ person can work at Marvel. It ain't right.

[DBM]

Has anyone else seen Liefeld's rejected cover for X-Force #2?

http://silverbulletcomicbooks.com/rage/images/041219/xforce2rejectedcover.jpg

Apparently after the last X-force series ended Tabitha (AKA Boom-Boom, AKA Boomer, AKA Meltdown, AKA whatever) decided to delve heavily into the S&M seen and Domino was there to help out.

Seriously, what the **** are they wearing? Superhero costumes aren't exactly practicaly to begin with but that's ridiculous.

[Elijya]

OMG....

that's the worst yet

so, is domino 8 feet tall now? she gonna join the WWF and wrestly Chyna?

[Symbiotica]

.... Why does that person in back have a right breast half again as large as her left?

That picture looks so Eighties to me, for some reason.

[DBM]

.... Why does that person in back have a right breast half again as large as her left?

That picture looks so Eighties to me, for some reason.

Actually they're very Nineties.

[PaleRider]

wow. I can't believe Marvel would let him put a female charcter in something like that. Looks like it was drawen by Larry Flint.

[Stikmann]

It's good to see Rob is as original as ever. I liked Dominos costume the first time I saw it....When Masamune Shirow came up with it.

http://www.bulletsofautumn.com/shirow-art/heroic11_nov.jpg

[CobraCommander]

Ah Rob... still lifting everything he draws I see.

[Phoney Bone]

He can't even be original with his sucky drawings! AAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAA!!!!!!1

[Elijya]

http://images.somethingawful.com/mjolnir/images/cg12212004/Cecotroph.jpg

[PaleRider]

I still think that Cap. pic is the worst thing any comic artist has ever drawn, EVER.

[Saph]

http://images.somethingawful.com/mjolnir/images/cg12212004/Cecotroph.jpg

That can't be real, surely? It just looks too blatantly crap.

[Capt Throbberson]

http://images.somethingawful.com/mjolnir/images/cg12212004/Cecotroph.jpg
****, beat me too it

[Darthphere]

http://images.somethingawful.com/mjolnir/images/cg12212004/Cecotroph.jpg


Timmy's an idiot.

[Elijya]

That can't be real, surely? It just looks too blatantly crap.


the picture of cap is real, the "guide to anatomy" is fake. Go, and learn from somethingawful...


www.somethingawful.com (go check out the photoshop phridays and comedy goldmines)

[Elijya]

Timmy's an idiot.


timmy doesn't exist, it's what we humans call " a joke"

[Saph]

the picture of cap is real, the "guide to anatomy" is fake. Go, and learn from somethingawful...


www.somethingawful.com (go check out the photoshop phridays and comedy goldmines)

I knew the book was fake, but I don't know how anyone would ever print that Captain America.

[Symbiotica]

PaleRider: "I still think that Cap. pic is the worst thing any comic artist has ever drawn, EVER."

I'll second that motion.

I literally laughed out loud when I saw that.

[Unthinkable]

Look. At. Those. Boots.

http://perso.wanadoo.fr/extremegenesis/PromoCapAmerica6.jpg

[Unthinkable]

Some more:

http://perso.wanadoo.fr/extremegenesis/Avengers4.jpg

[Unthinkable]

Body to head proportion anyone?

http://perso.wanadoo.fr/extremegenesis/FCpinup1.jpg

[The Hero]

That's...that's...WHY?:(

[Darthphere]

timmy doesn't exist, it's what we humans call " a joke"


It was my attempt at a joke as well. :(

[Saph]

I'll give one thing to LieFeld, his art is pretty cool-looking. If he got his proportions right, and worked on his faces, he could be the next Jim Lee. He'd better stop copying too.

[Symbiotica]

But that's the one thing you'll never, ever see with Liefeld: progression. He is one of the few artists I have ever seen, professional or not, who's art does not change and grow with the passage of time. This makes me think perhaps he doesn't practice that much, but only draws when he actually has an assignment.

I can sympathize with the small-head-large-body problem because it is one I continually battle myself in my work. But criminey, at least make an EFFORT to overcome it. It appears that so far from finding this disproportionality a fault, Liefeld actually thinks it looks good.

[Saph]

But that's the one thing you'll never, ever see with Liefeld: progression. He is one of the few artists I have ever seen, professional or not, who's art does not change and grow with the passage of time. This makes me think perhaps he doesn't practice that much, but only draws when he actually has an assignment.

I can sympathize with the small-head-large-body problem because it is one I continually battle myself in my work. But criminey, at least make an EFFORT to overcome it. It appears that so far from finding this disproportionality a fault, Liefeld actually thinks it looks good.

Well in the last pic he's in a sort of Robot battlesuit. True, Liefeld can't of drawn that much, because he hasn't changed. When I come across my old drawings, I'm surprised at how different it is. I've reached a point in my life where i'm not 100% happy with my work. Liefeld probably copied out of comic books as a kid, developed a 'talent', and got a job drawing comics. I suspect he lost the ambition to be a great one, and is now drawing for the money. He probably doesn't bother checking for mistakes, as shown in the drawing with Cable's giganto boots.

[Elijya]

I'll give one thing to LieFeld, his art is pretty cool-looking. If he got his proportions right, and worked on his faces, he could be the next Jim Lee. He'd better stop copying too.


but the problem is, for a brief time back in the early 90's, he WAS as popular as lee, so as far as he is concerned, he is as good as him

[Symbiotica]

saph: "True, Liefeld can't of drawn that much, because he hasn't changed. When I come across my old drawings, I'm surprised at how different it is. I've reached a point in my life where i'm not 100% happy with my work. Liefeld probably copied out of comic books as a kid, developed a 'talent', and got a job drawing comics. I suspect he lost the ambition to be a great one, and is now drawing for the money. He probably doesn't bother checking for mistakes, as shown in the drawing with Cable's giganto boots."

That's because you're a normal human being who, ahem, changes and grows. I'd say probably almost every artist [of any type] flips through their portfolio every now & then and goes, "Oh, man.... that was AWFUL!" Reaching a point where you're not 100% happy with your work shows maturity, and that's what allows you to get more proficient - you see what's wrong, you try to fix it. Personally I think my art sucks - but that pushes me to do better.

I can't understand how someone could be so complacent as to not check their work; amazing hubris. But... In this instance I could believe it. No other explaination makes sense. As far as Liefeld being once as popular as Lee, incredible: I don't understand exactly *how* but I don't doubt it. It's like the old saying: "Maybe [your] purpose in life is to serve as a warning to others."

In this case the warning being, "Don't get complacent."

[Elijya]

http://i.somethingawful.com/inserts/articlepics/photoshop/04-22-05-variety/6StringSamurai.jpg

[Zaptoitnow]

That hurts to look at.

[Tropico]

Has anyone else seen Liefeld's rejected cover for X-Force #2?

http://silverbulletcomicbooks.com/rage/images/041219/xforce2rejectedcover.jpg

Apparently after the last X-force series ended Tabitha (AKA Boom-Boom, AKA Boomer, AKA Meltdown, AKA whatever) decided to delve heavily into the S&M seen and Domino was there to help out.

Seriously, what the **** are they wearing? Superhero costumes aren't exactly practicaly to begin with but that's ridiculous.

WTF?! times infinity!!! Was Marvel gonna throw another of their Marvel Illustrated swimsuit issues or something? You know, I'm guilty for giving this guy money. I bought the first 3 issues of X-Force for nostalgia's sake but I couldn't keep buying it, it was too horrible. I look at the pic above and I go WTF was I thinking?!

[HighVoltage]

A LieFeld Appreciation Thread??:eek:

What the.......

Now I´m going to find;

"The Chuck Austen Appreciation Thread".:p :p

[DBM]

We've all been waiting for it.

Rob Liefeld's new website.

http://www.robliefeld.net/


Go and bask in the glory of his mediocrity.

[Elijya]

site's actually got a really cool lay out...

[DBM]

site's actually got a really cool lay out...

Yeh, it'd be a really good site if it didn't have all that Liefeld art all over the place.

[Saph]

Look at Cyborgs legs..

http://www.robliefeld.net/images/teentitans/titans5.jpg

[Elijya]

check this out! this puts that Cap picture in an even better perspective

http://home.earthlink.net/~grotesqueanatomy/sitebuildercontent/sitebuilderpictures/capnekkid2.jpg

[DBM]

check this out! this puts that Cap picture in an even better perspective

http://home.earthlink.net/~grotesqueanatomy/sitebuildercontent/sitebuilderpictures/capnekkid2.jpg

Not showing up.

[Saph]

check this out! this puts that Cap picture in an even better perspective

http://home.earthlink.net/~grotesqueanatomy/sitebuildercontent/sitebuilderpictures/capnekkid2.jpg
A body like that would be unsuitable for even the Hulk..

[Elijya]

works for me....

[Zev]

check this out! this puts that Cap picture in an even better perspective

http://home.earthlink.net/~grotesqueanatomy/sitebuildercontent/sitebuilderpictures/capnekkid2.jpg

I always knew Liefeld was a dick...

[Darthphere]

I always knew Liefeld was a dick...


ZING!

[Démon]

Hahaha! That's hilarious! :up:

[JackBauer]

aaaah, to see the work of such a master...

http://adlo.dreamers.com/estudios/galeria/prophet/proph_01.jpg

http://adlo.dreamers.com/estudios/galeria/sindialogos/chic_01.jpg

http://www.robliefeld.net/images/covers/warchild/warchild2.jpg

let's see... 1, 2, 3... FOUR FINGERS?!?!
http://www.robliefeld.net/images/covers/fightingamerican/FA2.jpg

trust Liefeld to rip himself off...
http://www.robliefeld.net/images/covers/newmutants/NewMutants3.jpg

http://www.robliefeld.net/images/covers/youngblood/Youngblood18.jpg

[Saph]

trust Liefeld to rip himself off...
http://www.robliefeld.net/images/covers/newmutants/NewMutants3.jpg

http://www.robliefeld.net/images/covers/youngblood/Youngblood18.jpg
That's hilarious :D

[jnspath]

I hate to admit it but I've bought a fair amount of Liefeld stuff over the years. I got into comics right when Image was taking off and his work sucked me into the hype. Now his work just sucks.

[screech_turbo]

http://i.somethingawful.com/inserts/articlepics/photoshop/04-22-05-variety/6StringSamurai.jpg

hahaha!!!

[TheS4ndman]

im one of the liefieled haters but i pity him...i dunno why ...

[TheS4ndman]

no wait ....look at his teen titans ARGGH my eyes MY eyes it hurts so bad !!!!!!

his TT look like men and ladys .last time i recall they were teenagers

[JackBauer]

im one of the liefieled haters but i pity him...i dunno why ...

pity him? why? the man's kinda like Paris Hilton, making big bucks by being clueless...

[PaleRider]

That is a great comparison, from now on I will refer to him as the Paris Hilton of comics.

[MaraJanesSlave]

http://adlo.dreamers.com/estudios/galeria/sindialogos/chic_01.jpg


Gah! Her left arm has two elbows!

~Mara Jane

[JackBauer]

Gah! Her left arm has two elbows!

~Mara Jane

no to mention the gun she's holding with that freaky arm is thinner than the actual bullets...

[Phoney Bone]

no wait ....look at his teen titans ARGGH my eyes MY eyes it hurts so bad !!!!!!

his TT look like men and ladys .last time i recall they were teenagers
Correction: His TT look like MEN. ALL of them.


Wondergirl's got a bulge.:(

[DBM]

Was reading Penny Arcade and read this.

Rob Liefeld has a new website. I honestly don't know how he keeps getting work but whatever. He has his own online comic called "Shrink!" that you can check out on his site.

Reading his strips and his journal is like staring into the mouth of madness. He has essentially been the whipping boy of the comic book industry for ten years. The experience has apparently driven him totally bat sh** f**king loco. I mean, these are the sorts of jokes I would expect to read from a seven or eight year old.

For example, the fire guy tells the therapist he gets "hot under the collar". Then as if that wasn't enough he goes on to say that he also gets "fired up" and needs to "let off some steam"! I get it Rob, the ****ers made of fire. I guess you could also say he's hot headed or maybe he's tired because he's been burning the midnight oil. Oh, or maybe he's sick of his job, you know...really just burnt out. HAH! Oh wait, I bet his favorite movie is Weekend at BURNie's. I'm sorry, I know some of these ideas are pretty half baked. OH ZING!

-Gabe out

And here's what he's talking about. (http://www.robliefeld.net/shrink.htm)

http://www.robliefeld.net/images/shrink/shrink2.jpg

[Zev]

That's still better than the dick jokes... the horrible, horrible dick jokes... I think telling them is banned by the Geneva Convention.

[DBM]

That's still better than the dick jokes... the horrible, horrible dick jokes... I think telling them is banned by the Geneva Convention.

http://www.robliefeld.net/images/shrink/shrink5.jpg

[Zev]

My Eyes! My Eyes!

[Elijya]

and the guy's name is actually Mr. Inches.....

why is there no smiley for sheer disgust and utter horror?

[lars573]

*checks Liefeld's website* OMG and WTF Wondergirl does have a bulge in her pants.:eek: And Impluse doesn't. :bomb:

[Elijya]

on what image does wonder girl have a bulge?

[Doc Destruction]

http://julien-gautier.club.fr/rob_copie.jpg

LOL blissfully stolen from another thread. What a losah!

[lars573]

on what image does wonder girl have a bulge?

Click on the link to his site, click gallery, then Teen Titans. And look threw then and you'll see.

[Elijya]

if you mean this, it looks like it's actually the colorists fault

http://www.robliefeld.net/images/teentitans/titans4.jpg

[Zev]

Liefeld can't draw Impulse's feet... imagine that!

[DBM]

http://www.silverbulletcomicbooks.com/rage/111195363490019.htm

Scroll down to find Passion of the Liefeld. Comic genious, thou art named Liefeld.

Looky here.

[Harlekin]

And before any confusion comes up, Rob wrote that. Ed Benes is the artist.

[Frank]

I'm completely speechless....

[Zev]

Wait a minute... if Liefeld's a Christian... then does that I mean I have to share an afterlife with him?

MUST... GET... CLEAN...

[Phatman]

I have to wonder if Liefeld uses a lightbox to trace over the basic shapes of panels he likes and then adds the details in. It's clear in some panels he stole shots from other artists. In his own work It's clear that most of the bodies are horribly misproportioned. Wonder Girl's torso is just TOO LONG. Her abs are built like a guy's. In one pic Cyborg has no crotch. Robin is built like Brock Lesnar. These are TEENAGERS, their bodies should be a bit slimmer and less muscular. The Titans shown here look like members of the JLA on steroids induced with crack.
Referencing the pic with Domino and Boom Boom. WTF? Those costumes are ridiculous. Not to mention both of the women look butch, especially in the face. Doesn't he know to draw women characters with SOFTER lines than you do men? I've been drawing women for over 10 years and I know to use soft lines when drawing a female character, especially in the face. It makes them look pretty and appealing.
And why is everyone either scowling, sad or screaming in his pics? Can't he draw any other facial experessions? Bemused, grimacing, despondent? Doesn't this guy know how to read a face?
And that Cap pic is one of the worst things I have ever seen drawn in the history of comics. No one is THAT BIG.

[Charlesx]

What can I add that hasn't been already said? Yeah, I can appreciate that Rob Liefeld is probably the king of bad comic book art. He's, like, the Ed Wood of comics. Makes you want to laugh and cry at the same time, just like that "Dungeons and Dragons" movie with Jeremy Irons. What a waste.

[Frank]

Everytime I think about how much money he's made I cry.

[Démon]

It may be the work of Liefeld, but you have to admit that Jesus kicking the Greek gods' collective asses is priceless.

[TheCorpulent1]

That is a pretty funny concept. :)

[Elijya]

He's, like, the Ed Wood of comics.

that's how my comicbook shop guy refers to him :up:

[PaleRider]

I don't know Ed Wood movies are acually half way enjoyable, thier so bad thier funny, Liefeild just sucks no matter how you look at it.

[Zev]

http://www.planetaryalignment.the-family-archives.com/xforce4-1.jpg
http://www.planetaryalignment.the-family-archives.com/xforce4-2.jpg

I demand to know what scary fetish Liefeld has with those oversized crotches. And what's with the second guy's armored nipples? "Ha ha ha, your titty twisters are useless against me!"

[The Mad Bomber]

ROFLMOA.

Either Stryfe is 'packing the heat' or Rob has Freudian issues that need to be addressed.

[Spider-Man9X17]

Thought this was kinda funny. Labeled as the "Rob Liefeld Version"

http://jerome.galica.free.fr/marvel/Avengers/cap/cap-liefeld-reborn.gif


http://jerome.galica.free.fr/marvel/Avengers/cap/captain.htm

[Elijya]

;et's play a game! it's called "count the pouches!"

http://perso.wanadoo.fr/extremegenesis/XForce8.jpg

[Saph]

;et's play a game! it's called "count the pouches!"


I bet the pouches are used to hold.. more pouches. Because they're certainly not gonna fit even the smallest gun Liefeld can draw in those things.

[DBM]

;et's play a game! it's called "count the pouches!"



I've always wondered what's in those pouches. They always seem to be bulging because they're so full. But what's in there. It's not like these people are Batman and they carry a lot of gadgets around.

I mean, one of those guys is Grizzly. He just tears stuff up. What's in his pouches. I'm thinking handi-wipes. To clean of the blood and gore after ripping a man in half.

[The Mad Bomber]

It is obvious that the pouches are phallic symbols, created by Liefield's subconcious to represent testicles and scrotums. Therefore, the more pouches a character has, the more virile and masculine they are. It is quite concerning that Domino seems to have several around her waist...

[Th'Dude]

It is obvious that the pouches are phallic symbols, created by Liefield's subconcious to represent testicles and scrotums. Therefore, the more pouches a character has, the more virile and masculine they are. It is quite concerning that Domino seems to have several around her waist...

Not so concerning since the "extremely well endowed" stryfe from a picture a coupel of posts back was actually Domino from the future.:o

[WildChild]

;et's play a game! it's called "count the pouches!"

http://perso.wanadoo.fr/extremegenesis/XForce8.jpg
My god, look at all the pouches!

[ShadowBoxing]

;et's play a game! it's called "count the pouches!"

http://perso.wanadoo.fr/extremegenesis/XForce8.jpg

I actually liked him in early new mutants/X-Force. However it was because his style of art fit the book. X-Force and Cable were meant to be extreme, and his art represents x-tremeness. IT is a difinitive 90s style. However I do not wish to remember the 90s

[Muze]

Not so concerning since the "extremely well endowed" stryfe from a picture a coupel of posts back was actually Domino from the future.:o

gahhh! Stryfe as Domino?! that's sucktastic.

P.S. i just love the thigh to head ratio those guys above. Kane could outjump the Toad with those legs.

[ShadowBoxing]

http://julien-gautier.club.fr/rob_copie.jpg

LOL blissfully stolen from another thread. What a losah!

Most artists at one time or another use other artists work for reference (especially when going from Kirby's work)....but this guy is ridiculous

[Lazlo Panaflex]

After seeing all those horrible images I still can't believe Rob is still working, I have early issues of Wizard magazine that kept touting that Rob's titles were like the second coming of God.

[DarkKnightJRK]

All I have to say is, if Liefeld can get a job in the comics biz, then even I would be a sure thing. :)

[WebSpinner]

http://robliefeld.net/oc55.htm

I couldnt believe this, take a gander at the bottom left...

[Unthinkable]

http://robliefeld.net/oc55.htm

I couldnt believe this, take a gander at the bottom left...

Dear God in heaven...

[Elijya]

I went to the DC panel at Wizard World Philly. They basicly went through every book DC was doing, and the crowd gave applause for each book as a show of support. Then they came to Rob on Titan's and teh crowd booed. The DC editor actually had to defend Rob, it was sad

[Doc Destruction]

Oh wow...was Rob there?

LOL...that's sad.

[Elijya]

no, he wasn't there

[Doc Destruction]

Good thing...he would have loved to hear that, I'm sure.

[souloffire]

Then they came to Rob on Titan's and teh crowd booed. The DC editor actually had to defend Rob, it was sad
As they should have.

[Eyeballing]

Liefeld's problem is this: most artist actually learn to draw through classes and books and real-life study. Liefeld learned to draw from looking at comics.

if someone actually taught him things like proportion and anatomy, different facial expressions, and backgrounds, he could actually be an amazing artist, but unfortunately, I don't think he's ever cared or had the dedication to improve himself in these areas


As has happend many times before i have to agree with Elijya here. Lefield sucks ass. But who knows maybe he has taken some art classes, maybe that is just his style which if it is, really sucks ass! :D