Catwoman Casting Thread [Merged x6]

[batboy99]

shes still hot, but as CC said, shes trashy.

[elgato]

She's way hot, but sometimes she looks like a junkie

[CaptainClown]

She looks like the girls I went to school with whos sole function in life was to receive my seed. They never brought anything to the conversation and just used their looks to become popular. She has the expression of girls I have seen who would go to thebathroom to snort coke. I really don't want selina to looklike that at all

[batboy99]

She looks like the girls I went to school with whos sole function in life was to receive my seed. They never brought anything to the conversation and just used their looks to become popular. She has the expression of girls I have seen who would go to thebathroom to snort coke. I really don't want selina to looklike that at all
SIGWORTHY!:woot:

[elgato]

CONCLUSION:

Megan Fox, not for Catwoman, not for any role!

[batboy99]

CONCLUSION:

Megan Fox, not for Catwoman, not for any role!QFT:o

[Super_Ludacris]

So we all agree? Megan Fox for Catwoman.

Great, lets move on.

[CaptainClown]

If you want to put it in your sig go for it... just hope I don't get in trouble =)
Anyway lets not go back to Megan Fox, Jessica Biel, or Jessica Alba or any female that has been talked about on Spikes mens awards.

[batboy99]

i agree CC

[Majik1387]

So we all agree? Megan Fox for Catwoman.

Great, lets move on.

Why have you become such a troll lately in threads like this? :huh:

[Super_Ludacris]

Cause its bloddy redundant and people are overthinking this role. Truth be told she probably wont even be in the movie. YEEEEARS ago I said Charlize Theron should get the role but I doubt she would take it. To be honest, the more I think about I dont even care if Selina is not in the movie. I really would like them to tackle another character. Hell, bring Talia in instead, switch it up.

[Majik1387]

If you think it's redundant and people are over thinking it, and that if you don't care if Selina is not in the movie, why bother coming into the thread? Wouldn't it be just a waste of your time and energy?

[elgato]

Are you drunk or something?!
If you don't care about Selina I don't see why are you posting in this thread :o (no offense)

[Super_Ludacris]

Cause I can really.

**** it. Matter of fact Emily Blunt for Selina Kyle. She's a class, maturity and swagger that transends her age of 25. Hell of an actress too. I'd put her for Selina or Talia.

[batboy99]

Ivy :o

[Super_Ludacris]

There aint gonna be no Ivy in this series

[Laderlappen]

Cause its bloddy redundant and people are overthinking this role. Truth be told she probably wont even be in the movie. YEEEEARS ago I said Charlize Theron should get the role but I doubt she would take it. To be honest, the more I think about I dont even care if Selina is not in the movie. I really would like them to tackle another character. Hell, bring Talia in instead, switch it up.by people suggesting actresses that don't suck ass? :huh:

[Super_Ludacris]

by people suggesting actresses that don't suck ass? :huh:

You got people voting for Beckinsale, Jolie and Alba (who are all lovley and have had there moments but lets be honest....) so stop coming late to the party newbie.

[Laderlappen]

It was just a question. What did you mean by "over-thinking the role"? By not chosing somebody like megan fox? Maybe it's not we who are over-thinking the role, maybe it's you who are under-thinking. How can anybody overthink one of the main characters?
Chill out man. Your nerves are to close to your skin.

And nobody says newbie anymore.

[Super_Ludacris]

Im not on my nerves, thats just how I am lol. And you talking about who is over or under thinking is overthinking this whole thing lol. 5 years on, I have apathy for these casting calls, especially for Catwoman. At this point, Im confident that Nolan and a good cast negates any questionable choice for Selina Kyle. I dont buy the Katie Holmes/Rachel Dawes argument neither cause Selina has to be a more dimensional character than Rachel, so the onus is on the scriptwriter rather than said actress to deliver the standard.

Everything else is "My chick is a better choice than your chick" message board talk.

Plus I want Megan to get the role for the sheer entertainment and humour factor of 50% of the board saying "B-b-b-but she cant act" and the other 50% saying "Yeah but shes playing Catwoman not Ann Boylen and she looks hot in a catsuit now lets post some HQ pics"

[batboy99]

There aint gonna be no Ivy in this series
who says theres gonna be talia or selina either? Its just wishful thinking at this point

[Super_Ludacris]

who says theres gonna be talia or selina either? Its just wishful thinking at this point

1)The rumour of her cameo at the end of TDK (Selina)

2)We've seen Ra's in this franchise, so there is a good linkage of a story to bring Talia in

3) I doubt a villian that was in Batman & Robin shows up in this franchise. Even Bane and Freeze...eeeh just a hunch. Call it stigmata.

4) lol@ Nolan brining Ivy to his world of realism. This is a character who's main power is to grow large deadly mutated plants around the city and make men fall in love with a second hand perfume that looks like it was brought from the gift shop at the airport in Newark. Hows he gonna explain the science behind that when there's debate over the microwave emitter in BB (which btw if you go back and look at some of the threads on that when the movie came out, made my summer from a comedic view point)

[batboy99]

1)ok so, rumours mean nothing
2) still doesnt mean anything, but i think shes the most likely to appear
3)that doesnt mean anything
4) they character can be changed around. She doesnt need to have powers or make men fall in love with her.Or she could make men fall in love with her using some perfume(as she does) or a gas. Scarecrow has fear gas that makes people helucinate(sp?), why cant ivy have something that puts people under some sort of ''spell''?

[jmc]

Keep the Ivy talk for the Ivy thread you lot. Kitty cats only in here thank you. :woot:

[batboy99]

i agree.

[Super_Ludacris]

1)ok so, rumours mean nothing
2) still doesnt mean anything, but i think shes the most likely to appear
3)that doesnt mean anything
4) they character can be changed around. She doesnt need to have powers or make men fall in love with her.Or she could make men fall in love with her using some perfume(as she does) or a gas. Scarecrow has fear gas that makes people helucinate(sp?), why cant ivy have something that puts people under some sort of ''spell''?

1) Worked with Harvey Dent back mid-05
2) Thanks for disagreeing yet agreeing with my point
3) I can almost gaurntee you wont see a villian from there
4) Mother****er like what? lol go on then, tell me:woot:

[batboy99]

thats stupid, rumours dont always come true. what about the rumour of emily watston being harley? or harley even being in the movie? hmm i didnt see that happen, and nolan confirmed harley isnt in TDK so that was just a rumour

rumours dont mean anything, someties they come true, sometimes they dont

[Mr. Socko]

Nolan won't be using Harley, and I highly doubt we'll see Catwoman. Poison Ivy making an appearance in Batman 3 is probably none to none. Talia is the only one I think Nolan would possibly use.

We simply like to talk about who we'd like to see cast. :)

[jmc]

If Nolan can't find room for Catwoman, so be it, I'd rather the character not appear than risk another Spiderman 3 style incident where she's added just to appease the fans.

[batboy99]

^ i agree.

[anrrd_2]

If Nolan can't find room for Catwoman, so be it, I'd rather the character not appear than risk another Spiderman 3 style incident where she's added just to appease the fans.

^kinko that:yay:

[anrrd_2]

so, taking a second to step away from all the name dropping....lets focus on what we expect of the character should she appear. what is you vision for a nolan based catwoman? how do you want the character to evolve? should there be an ongoing thing between cat/bat AND bruce/selina? what are her struggles and how should the character evolve throughout the film?

lets here some theories....

[metal666]

IMO I think that if catwoman or selina does appaer the part should be pretty small, I wish there would be a mention about a bunch of break-ins in TDK then a thief just barely gets away from batman. Then more of a story in the thrid movie.
I kind of want her part to be small so there's less chance of the character getting even more screwed over.

[anrrd_2]

^ ya i meant in the potential third movie.

[jmc]

so, taking a second to step away from all the name dropping....lets focus on what we expect of the character should she appear. what is you vision for a nolan based catwoman? how do you want the character to evolve? should there be an ongoing thing between cat/bat AND bruce/selina? what are her struggles and how should the character evolve throughout the film?

lets here some theories....

One possible angle that could be used is the escape angle. Selina, young lady with a very troubled upbringing, feels trapped inside the world of thievery and knows no way out, perhaps she screws up a heist for some major mob boss, owing him millions of dollars, as a result she must continue to work for him in order to pay off the debt. Perhaps she hates what her life has become, perhaps she hates herself, all she wants is a clean slate, yet doesn't know how to get it. She looks out for herself and trusts no-one. The only thing that gives her any sort of happiness are her cats, they give her warmth, comfort and make her feel safe. Perhaps that's the reason she wears the mask when she steals, she feel safe inside it yet she longs for the day where she doesn't need it to feel that way.

[anrrd_2]

i like it, its original and very interesting....what would her connection to bruce be?

[jmc]

Perhaps her bosses require something from Wayne Enterprises, so she uses Bruce to get what ever info required to help her with the heist, schematics, passwords, etc. That part I'm a little fuzzy on. :woot:

[anrrd_2]

sounds good so far...2 points!

[jmc]

Thanks, it's the angle I went with when I did my Catwoman manip, I tried to justify why someone would wear a cat mask whilst stealing something and that idea was the best I could think of.

[anrrd_2]

yours was tha manip with the one that looked like cassie cain? and the cool movie poster scetch?

[Majik1387]

That's one of the better sort of re-imaginings of the character that I actually like.

[jmc]

yours was tha manip with the one that looked like cassie cain? and the cool movie poster scetch?

Mine was the one with Keri Russell as the model, the controversial design that didn't include skin tight leather and dared to be different! :woot:

See my deviant art link below to see it if you wish. :cwink:

[anrrd_2]

oh ya ya i remember now...that one was amazing! and then you had to do one for jolie and theron to apeize all the little crybaby *****es right?

[jmc]

oh ya ya i remember now...that one was amazing! and then you had to do one for jolie and theron to apeize all the little crybaby *****es right?

Nope, I didn't do another, if people don't like my version, that's fine, but I ain't gonna change it, I went for different and I'm pleased with results. :up:

[Vs-F-J]

oh ya ya i remember now...that one was amazing! and then you had to do one for jolie and theron to apeize all the little crybaby *****es right?

What are you ******ing about since you're a Theron supporter anyway? And I seem to remember you getting quite excited about the idea of a traditional leather Catwoman :cwink:!

As far as Pussykins' portrayal is concerned, I kinda like the BTAS take on the character and the Jim Balent series from the 90s. She has to be an independent operator in my opinion, not working for any kind of boss. And I think the most important thing to her should be the kicks, thrills and spills of cat burglary, not necessarily being a professional jewel thief. Though she should definitely be more about the jewel theft than Pfeiffer's Catwoman was.

Also, I don't think her relationship with Bruce should get as intimate as it did in BR. The BTAS Selina always saw Bruce as too dull to satisfy her, and this would fit well with Nolan's Bruce Wayne and how he created a "loser" image publically to protect his alter identity. He should be in love with her though, but she should be too infatuated with Batman to return his love (for now!)

[anrrd_2]

i never said i was excluded from that list, but i did NOT cry out for him to make similar manips of every choice, i only praised the one he made of kerri....and ya i love leather, get off my ass about it ;)

[Laderlappen]

I don't think there should be too much of a orgin. They could even use TDK as an "introduction".

[elgato]

yours was tha manip with the one that looked like cassie cain? and the cool movie poster scetch?

Actually that was mine :woot:

[jmc]

I don't think there should be too much of a orgin. They could even use TDK as an "introduction".

Perhaps, similar to the Joker, she's already 'the Catwoman' (as dubbed by the media), she just comes to Gotham for a major heist. Maybe just flashbacks of her past.

[elgato]

Mine was the one with Keri Russell as the model, the controversial design that didn't include skin tight leather and dared to be different! :woot:

See my deviant art link below to see it if you wish. :cwink:

I may not be a professional artist but I can be sure when I say that is the best catwoman i've seen ! :cwink:

[jmc]

Thank you kindly. :cwink:

[Ledlunar]

I saw this online awhile back and saved it... Im sure lots of people read and made some thoughts out of it.... what do you guys think?

Sorry if there is a thread for this already


"It may seem a little early to be worrying about a third Batman movie while the second one is still filming, but if Batman Begins has taught us anything about Christopher Nolan it’s that he plans ahead. Batman Begins set the stage for The Dark Knight, with references to the appearance of the Joker in the next film. It’s likely that Nolan will do the same thing with The Dark Knight in setting up a third Batman sequel, and we have a surprising bit of information on who may show up in it.

One of our most reliable, long time scoopers just sent us the following tidbit: “Word is that Heath Ledger could be coming back in the next sequel which will have Two Face as the main villain.” In Batman Begins, the movie’s main bad guy was dead by the time the film was over. Ledger plays the Joker in The Dark Knight and if this is true then it means that he may end up surviving to torment Batman again. Assuming Heath is any good as Mr. J, I like the idea of Joker sticking around in the background of future film, making life miserable for Bats. He is after all, his chief nemesis. It makes sense for him to keep haranguing Bats.

Even more exciting than the idea that we may get the Joker in more than one movie is the identity of another villain who may be in Batman 3. According to our source, “it could also include a certain female feline as well.” Bear in mind that the script for Batman 3 hasn’t been written yet, so it’s all just talk at this stage. But if this really is something Nolan is kicking around for a future Batman project, then don’t be surprised to see a few hints at the future arrival of Catwoman in The Dark Knight. "

By Josh Tyler: 2007-09-04 16:09:05



?????

[Max Doobermin]

There's no news there. The old rumor was that Bruce is getting ready for a date at the end. He is taking Alfred's advice about balancing things out with Bruce and Bats. So he's getting ready and Alfred asks who the woman is. And Bruce says "Selina Kyle."

It's probably not true anyway. It's about as verified as Dr. Quinzel being assigned to the Joker at Arkham.

[Ledlunar]

I like both idea's but it would be hard to wrap it all up in 1 last movie if they do make 3 which they will,,, Why don't they just do 4? I'd like them to go til Michael Caine dies if they got good story's and the same team. I just don't see Nolan messing things up he seems like yea he really does go quite deep into his movies.

[BatmanFanatic]

I like both idea's but it would be hard to wrap it all up in 1 last movie if they do make 3 which they will,,, Why don't they just do 4? I'd like them to go til Michael Caine dies if they got good story's and the same team. I just don't see Nolan messing things up he seems like yea he really does go quite deep into his movies.

They only plan to do 3, and I think that's a good thing. One director shouldn't own Batman forever, I'd like to keep seeing new interpretations. We know pretty much for sure Joker isn't going to die, we know 2-Face is going to be in #3 as the main bad guy, I think a 3rd villain would be too much. Besides, Catwoman isn't really a villain, more like a love interest with a bad habit ;)

The biggest reason I don't think they'll keep Batman going past 3 is because both Nolan and Bale are going to want to do other things after a decade spent on Batman. They don't want to be known just for doing "those Batman movies."

[Max Doobermin]

I don't know why everyone assumes the plan is for 3. That's not confirmed as far as I know. There is supposedly a contract for three, but that doesn't necessarily mean they don't plan any more. I thought Nolan and Bale both said at some point around the release of Begins that they would keep doing Batman movies as long as they thought there was a compelling story to tell.

[Gianakin_]

Nah, that was Raimi and Tobey.
Goyer and Nolan pitched a 3-movie-idea and Bale/Oldman/Caine are signed on for 3 movies. Nolan and Freeman are not, though.

[Max Doobermin]

I know Tobey and Raimi said the same thing. But I coulda swore Nolan also said it. I could definitely be wrong though. I still think there's a possibility we'll get more than 3 movies. I hope we do.

[Gianakin_]

At the moment, I'm praying that Nolan comes back for BB3. I fear the f**kheads at WB will drive him away some way or another.

[BatmanFanatic]

I know Tobey and Raimi said the same thing. But I coulda swore Nolan also said it. I could definitely be wrong though. I still think there's a possibility we'll get more than 3 movies. I hope we do.

Honestly, I don't. No matter how good the movies are, you have to know when to stop. It's like if Harry Potter became a 13 book series just because it was selling. Or if they made a Rambo movie with a 60 year old Rambo. Oh wait...

[BatmanFanatic]

At the moment, I'm praying that Nolan comes back for BB3. I fear the f**kheads at WB will drive him away some way or another.

I don't see how, I haven't heard of a single conflict with them, artistic, casting or otherwise. Not to mention he is making them a ton of money and bringing the franchise back from the brink of death.

[CrypticOne]

I wouldn't like to see Catwoman in the third one. Enough characters already. Two-Face. The Joker.

[Max Doobermin]

Honestly, I don't. No matter how good the movies are, you have to know when to stop. It's like if Harry Potter became a 13 book series just because it was selling. Or if they made a Rambo movie with a 60 year old Rambo. Oh wait...
Well of course if the third or fourth wouldn't be good then they shouldn't make it. But this could be the first comic book series to feel like a comic. Reoccurring villains, a continuing storyline and all that. It would be awesome. And I think they could do it. But once you get into the third movie you have to start planning ahead. Start laying the ground work for 4 and 5 in 3 so that they can seamlessly tie together.

[BatmanFanatic]

Well of course if the third or fourth wouldn't be good then they shouldn't make it. But this could be the first comic book series to feel like a comic. Reoccurring villains, a continuing storyline and all that. It would be awesome. And I think they could do it. But once you get into the third movie you have to start planning ahead. Start laying the ground work for 4 and 5 in 3 so that they can seamlessly tie together.

How many memebers of the cast are going to want to keep doing it? For over 10 years? They're going to keep replacing people and it will just get rediculous.

[Gianakin_]

Honestly, I don't. No matter how good the movies are, you have to know when to stop. It's like if Harry Potter became a 13 book series just because it was selling. Or if they made a Rambo movie with a 60 year old Rambo. Oh wait...

The new Rambo flick rules. Just like the 6th Rocky one.
Better than many of the bull**itty action films that come out these days.

[Gianakin_]

Oh, and... bring on Catwoman.

[Max Doobermin]

How many memebers of the cast are going to want to keep doing it? For over 10 years? They're going to keep replacing people and it will just get rediculous.
As long as they get to do other job in between i think alot of them would return for over ten years. Bale, Oldman, Ledger, Eckhart. The way they talk about these characters, if the characters keep developing then I think they would be more than happy to keep playing them.

[Gianakin_]

Just change every key member after each 3 movies and it'll be fine by me.

[CrypticOne]

How many memebers of the cast are going to want to keep doing it? For over 10 years? They're going to keep replacing people and it will just get rediculous.

I agree, the cast will get tired, as so, with the public.

Batman has the potential to be the first good superhero trilogy. It's on its way. I mean, it could really get up there with the other great trilogys, if it stays the coarse it's on.

Adding new characters, especially if you have three villains in one movie....well, we all seen Spider-Man 3. Keep the Batman Begins franchise with getting more information on Bruce Wayne, and having the Joker and Two-Face for TDK and the third one.

We don't need 10 villains to be in the movies. Keeping the Joker alive in TDK and then the addition of Two-Face for the third movie will be more than enough. At least for me.

And Rambo rocks!

[chamber-music]

At the moment, I'm praying that Nolan comes back for BB3. I fear the f**kheads at WB will drive him away some way or another.

Well at the moment WB love what Nolan has done with BB and TDK. They want him to sign on for the 3rd. The film is already one of the most anticipated across the world so unless and the Nolans would love to finish off their trilogy.

You never know with WB execs though :o

[BatmanFanatic]

Would Starwars be any good if they made 6 of them?


:woot:

[Gianakin_]

Chamber Music: It's the last sentence of your post that I fear might come true.

[Gianakin_]

Would Starwars be any good if they made 6 of them?


:woot:

Actually, it'd be a cinematically masterful saga.

[BatmanFanatic]

Actually, it'd be a cinematically masterful saga.

No, it WAS a masterful saga at 3.

At 6 it became a complete joke.

[Gianakin_]

Well, I agree. Episode 4 and 6 were kinda pushing it. I mean, Ewoks defeating the Empire tha DArth Sidious built? Yeah, I know...

[BatmanFanatic]

Well, I agree. Episode 4 and 6 were kinda pushing it. I mean, Ewoks defeating the Empire tha DArth Sidious built? Yeah, I know...

Exactly. So the thing is, not that I don't trust Nolan, but you can only keep a good thing going for so long. We have a great thing now, and we should be thankful... but if we ask for it to go on forever, it will only make it that much more likely they'll drop the ball somewhere down the line. If it's just three, they can concentrate, work really hard on those three, tie it all up together, and pass it on.

[Gianakin_]

Exactly.

Wait, wait. You agree? I thought you were bashin Episodes 1-3. I like you more now.


So the thing is, not that I don't trust Nolan, but you can only keep a good thing going for so long. We have a great thing now, and we should be thankful... but if we ask for it to go on forever, it will only make it that much more likely they'll drop the ball somewhere down the line. If it's just three, they can concentrate, work really hard on those three, tie it all up together, and pass it on.

Which is why I believe they should change the director and all of the actors after BB3. Keep it fresh, but at continuity with the Nolan Trilogy. Just like I want things to happen with the Spidey saga.

[BatmanFanatic]

Wait, wait. You agree? I thought you were bashin Episodes 1-3. I like you more now.



Which is why I believe they should change the director and all of the actors after BB3. Keep it fresh, but at continuity with the Nolan Trilogy. Just like I want things to happen with the Spidey saga.

Who would bash the classics? Only a crazy person!

Well if you change the director and all the actors then it's not really keeping it going in my mind, that is handing it over to someone else to play with. You could keep the continuity going, thats fine, I don't think anyone else is ever going to want to do a new Batman origin story. But you cant keep continuity on everything though, because I'd like to see a new directors idea of what the Batmobile should look like, and I'd like to see a Joker that isn't dripping emo-goth makeup all over his face too.

[Max Doobermin]

I think Batman Fanatic is confused about which Star Wars movies he's talking about. But everyone knows Empire is the best of them all.

[Gianakin_]

Who would bash the classics? Only a crazy person!

Well if you change the director and all the actors then it's not really keeping it going in my mind, that is handing it over to someone else to play with. You could keep the continuity going, thats fine, I don't think anyone else is ever going to want to do a new Batman origin story. But you cant keep continuity on everything though, because I'd like to see a new directors idea of what the Batmobile should look like, and I'd like to see a Joker that isn't dripping emo-goth makeup all over his face too.

Oh, you were bashing the Prequels (which are Episodes 1-3). I actually like them more than the Classic Trilogy. I'm a crazy person. And I like you less now.:cmad::woot:

Of course, you're right. I'm talking continuity story-wise. Everything else will naturally change, which is what'll keep things fresh.

[Gianakin_]

I think Batman Fanatic is confused about which Star Wars movies he's talking about. But everyone knows Empire is the best of them all.

He's a she. And I prefer Revenge. But Empire is a VERY VERY close second.

[chamber-music]

Chamber Music: It's the last sentence of your post that I fear might come true.

Yep. The execs cast Robin by asking a bunch of kids would would win in a fight between O'Donnell and Di Caprio. You don't ask an 8 year old for casting descions in a multi million dollar movie franchise.

As for Batman. Nolans should do 3 movies tops. Perhaps they could comeback in 10 years after the 3rd and do a older Bruce/Batman story, but not many directors wanna spend their whole careers making the same movies.

[Max Doobermin]

My mistake. She. Sorry BatmanFanatic ^^;

Revenge is cool. It's easily the best of the prequel trilogy, which I think were alright although I didn't like Episode I all that much. Revenge was good. I liked the allegories and all that. It was cool. But Empire will always be my favorite. And I like A New Hope as well. It's just a cool movie. And then I like the beginning of Jedi. Everything before Endor is really cool. :up:

[Gianakin_]

Chamber Music: Precisely.

[Gianakin_]

My mistake. She. Sorry BatmanFanatic ^^;

Revenge is cool. It's easily the best of the prequel trilogy, which I think were alright although I didn't like Episode I all that much. Revenge was good. I liked the allegories and all that. It was cool. But Empire will always be my favorite. And I like A New Hope as well. It's just a cool movie. And then I like the beginning of Jedi. Everything before Endor is really cool. :up:

I agree generally. Except for Ep1. It was the lightest of the Prequels, but for the 1st film of a Trilogy, it was easily darker than Ep4. So I prefer it.

[Max Doobermin]

I like the story. I like the battle in the end. I like Darth Maul. I like Sideous. I like Queen Amidala. I like the idea of the gungans. I like the battle droids. I don't like Jar-jar. I didn't like the kid who played Anakin. And although the pod race was kinda cool, I think it was strangely out of place. Replace Anakin with another kid and get rid of Jar-jar and I would have liked it a lot more.

[Gianakin_]

JarJar sucks. Jake Lloyd was fine, I think. The podrace was out of place a bit, but I enjoyed it so much (the only car race of sorts that I ever enjoyed in my life), that I forgave its misplacement (and even bought the game ad finished it multiple times- and I hate racing games).

[chamber-music]

Qui-Gon Jinn, Obi-Wan Kenobi and Dartha Maul where the only thing I liked about episode 1.

The kid who played Anakin was annoying. I don't know if it was his fault or the Lucas fault that his not a very good actors director. Jar-jar was plain terrible. I was 13 and my cousan was 7 when phantom meanace came out, we both thought Jar-Jar sucked and i'm sure my cousins age group where probabley what Jar-Jar was supposed to be for.

I've learned to live with his terrible 70s dialouge which was so apperantly out of place in Revenge Of The Sith.

[Laderlappen]

What prequels? Star Wars never made any prequels. There's only 3 movies. Star Wars, Empire Strikes Back, & Return Of The Jedi

[itsthebatman]

What prequels? Star Wars never made any prequels. There's only 3 movies. Star Wars, Empire Strikes Back, & Return Of The Jedi
QFT:up:

[CrypticOne]

I don't know why no one like The Phantom Menace, Attack of the Clones, and Revenge of the Sith. I thought those movies were pretty awesome, and I bet everyone that doesn't like them, has the movies in their collection.

[itsthebatman]

I don't know why no one like The Phantom Menace, Attack of the Clones, and Revenge of the Sith. I thought those movies were pretty awesome, and I bet everyone that doesn't like them, has the movies in their collection.
Nope. I hated Phantom Menace, and found Attack of the Clones boring beyond belief. ROTS was acceptable, although Hayden Christensen was woeful, and I did pick up the DVD for about 5 euro a while ago, so I got it. But I don't have the first two. I don't like them because they're dull, over-reliant on special effects, badly acted, and with scripts that make the original material seem like Shakespeare.

[wikum]

At the moment, I'm praying that Nolan comes back for BB3. I fear the f**kheads at WB will drive him away some way or another.

Yup me too.

As for Catwoman....I think it's going to happen.

Two Face as the main villian.

Catwoman as the anti hero.

The Joker as the last main battle.

[chamber-music]

What prequels? Star Wars never made any prequels. There's only 3 movies. Star Wars, Empire Strikes Back, & Return Of The Jedi

QFT:up:

Co-Signed

[metalhead971]

Lol, I think I've seen like ONE Catwoman comment on this whole page.

If they end up killing Rachel in TDK (as I'm sorely hoping, simply to see the effect it'll have on Batman), I'd like for there to be no leading lady in BB3. They already had one, and I don't see them introducing a romantic interest after Rachel dies, especially if there isn't much time in between TDK and BB3. Besides, on paper, Catwoman is compelling, sexy, and interesting to see interacting with Batman. On screen, however, it's a thin wire to walk between campy and well done. BR is not a good example of how to do Catwoman, cuz that's a totally different movie with a totally different atmosphere. Not to mention the fact that Two Face will already exist, more gangs will be rising up, and Joker most definitely won't be dying at the end of TDK, so 3 will already be jam packed with characters and drama. I think they should leave Catwoman alone in this franchise, focus on doing what you can with Rachel for TDK, kill her off, and then let Batman fly woman-less for the rest of the franchise. That's just my opinion, of course.

[Armored Avenger]

I dont want Catwoman in the third film as a major villain, but i wouldnt mind Selina Kyle being in the film as a love interest for Bruce.

[chamber-music]

I'm tired of Catwoman myself. I don't want her back in Nolans movies.

[metalhead971]

I just can't see Bruce willingly pursuing a love interest, if, for example, Joker guts Rachel like a fish in this movie. She's his childhood friend, someone he loves, and her words largely helped him see the world the way he does now. Her death would be beyond devastating to him, and the span of a few months (if we're taking the BB-TDK gap as a reference) wouldn't subdue that pain and anguish.

[Gianakin_]

What prequels? Star Wars never made any prequels. There's only 3 movies. Star Wars, Empire Strikes Back, & Return Of The Jedi

You know, the ones with an actually engaging plot and not the "Luke Skywalker and his merry adventures" stuff.
I'm exaggerating of course, but apart from the Jedi plotline in the OT, I found the other stuff... well, less exciting.

[Gianakin_]

I just can't see Bruce willingly pursuing a love interest, if, for example, Joker guts Rachel like a fish in this movie. She's his childhood friend, someone he loves, and her words largely helped him see the world the way he does now. Her death would be beyond devastating to him, and the span of a few months (if we're taking the BB-TDK gap as a reference) wouldn't subdue that pain and anguish.

The thing is, with Catwoman, he sees a freak like himself that is of the opposite sexx. That's what draws him. They're split right in the center, as Keaton said in BR. And that's what makes things interesting.
Bats, Joker, Two-Face and Catwoman are freaks that have much in common. But Batman can only hump one of those freaks, for obvious reasons.:woot:

[metalhead971]

The thing is, with Catwoman, he sees a freak like himself that is of the opposite sexx. That's what draws him. They're split right in the center, as Keaton said in BR. And that's what makes things interesting.
Bats, Joker, Two-Face and Catwoman are freaks that have much in common. But Batman can only hump one of those freaks, for obvious reasons.:woot:
Ewww.....


I'd still prefer not to see her in BB3. It just wouldn't sit right for him to go running into Catwoman's arms after suffering such a massive trauma as Rachel's death.

[Gianakin_]

I'd still prefer not to see her in BB3. It just wouldn't sit right for him to go running into Catwoman's arms after suffering such a massive trauma as Rachel's death.

However, I believe you're thinking too conventionally about their relationship. And that's where I disagree. It's the unconventional nature of their relationship that makes it interesting to me.
There shouldn't be any "running in each other's arms".

Quick question: Didn't you like the way they handled it in TAS?

[metalhead971]

However, I believe you're thinking too conventionally about their relationship. And that's where I disagree. It's the unconventional nature of their relationship that makes it interesting to me.
There shouldn't be any "running in each other's arms".

Quick question: Didn't you like the way they handled it in TAS?
Absolutely, I thought TAS was all around incredible. But one thing TAS didn't have was Rachel. That whole dynamic of a childhood friend/love interest that can't be had isn't featured there, it's unique to these films. I can understand that there's a sincere mutual attraction for the way they are, their uniqueness, their physical prowess, the "untamed lion" in Bruce and the "untamed lioness" in Catwoman. But whether or not there's a chemistry won't make him easily forget that the woman he grew up with, he shared his feelings with, the woman that was there for him when his parents were murdered, was violently murdered at the hands of the Joker, and he couldn't do anything to stop it (if that's indeed what happens). I agree wholeheartedly that Catwoman and Batman share a relationship that is by no means conventional. It's just not the same when you incorporate a love interest that was killed in his recent past, especially someone as close to him as Rachel is.

[Gianakin_]

You 're actually right. But because of Rachel, it'll be interesting to see how they'll overcome the challenge you propose.

[Laderlappen]

I think it would be interesting to have a love interest and an ex love interest share the screen together for the first time.

[itsthebatman]

I think it would be interesting to have a love interest and an ex love interest share a bed together for the first time.
Corrected. *crosses fingers*

[metalhead971]

Corrected. *crosses fingers*
LOL

[Sandouras]

I HATE catwoman so damn much! No catwoman for the love of GOD! But then again, it would be another male villain taken to arkham at the end of the film.
Alright then, but only if she is used as a means to further explore Bruce's psych. No *****ing on rooftops for *****ing's sake!

[jmc]

Why have we got another Catwoman thread?

[Laderlappen]

One started at The Dark Knight Forum and got moved.

[elgato]

Well, those rumors made my life came happy again when I heard them, no one gave a damn to this in the old cat-thread, so, i found this at thehahahatimes.com

http://i239.photobucket.com/albums/ff133/gatochico/hahacopia.jpg

[sethpixar]

Catwoman is a disgrace. Its best not to see her again.

[Ledlunar]

YEA those crazy Ewoks... I'll be happy as long as Nolan/Bale/Oldman/Caine/Ledger are all down, and the rest too if they all did 4 and built off the third to get it done, I'd be happy.. Man they should keep going til Micael Caine dies.

Has Nolan even done a bad film?

[Ledlunar]

Catwoman is a disgrace. Its best not to see her again.

you probably just read bad material or saw the Halle Berry movie or no little about her character read any Jeph Loeb Batman material and you'll apologize for that. Maybe you are one of those who just don't like female villains. That's cool lots of guys on super hero message boards are bitter against women as they can't get a date. or they strictly like men in films for there maximum viewing pleasure:grin:

[Reflectionist]

Pfft. Nolan can't touch the chemistry of Pfeiffer and Keaton. Case & point:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=vLmZz3als6Y
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=EXv7s5R_wTg

EDIT - Sorry, spelled Pheiffer wrong.

[Laderlappen]

It's PFEIFFER

[Reflectionist]

It's PFEIFFER

Despite that that post was completely unnecessarily rude, I fixed my spelling error.

[Ledlunar]

yea, but who's to say, maybe its a unwritten masterpiece?

[batboy99]

exactly, you cant say they cant touch what keaton and pfeiffer had, cuz quite frankly, you dont know what the writers and actors are capable of

[Crook]

But we do have past works of Nolan.

As much as I want to see Selina, I'm not even sure I wanna see her appear here. At least under Nolan's helm. There's been nothing so far to suggest he could handle such complex chemistry.

[jmc]

^ Please explain.

[JokerCheese]

Rue McClanahan for Catwoman...

http://l.yimg.com/img.tv.yahoo.com/tv/us/img/site/42/87/0000004287_20060919221144.jpg

[Crook]

In Nolan's films. I can't point out any decent portrayals of love there, at least in the romantic way. Catwoman is a slinky and outspoken woman, who has dangerous allure.

I'm not really sure Nolan can handle that. Or even worse, completely abandons that trait and go in a different direction.

[jmc]

I don't recall any of his films really having focused squarely on that sort of angle before so I'm not sure how you assume he couldn't handle it.

[Sandouras]

He handled a superhero/action movie (his first) and pwned everyone! What makes you think he cant handle catwoman/batman chemistry?

As if Burton did. Pfeifer sucked balls if you ask me. The whole catwoman plot sucked balls. "Hey, i fell from a skyscraper and some cats bite me, so i didnt die! Plus all of a sudden i can do flips and sommersaults! And bullets dont kill me! Yay! I am teh crazy b**ch!"

Gimme a break. Burton took what he wanted from the batman mythos and twisted it to suit his perverted tastes. He couldnt help himself. That doesnt make it a batman film. That is just a film about two Burton characters and a dude brooding in front of a castle window. I am surprised Ed Scissorhands didnt show up to hand out chocolates....you know...from the factory!

[batboy99]

what kind of catwoman? a DKR catwoman?

[Laderlappen]

Some people think just because a director never has portrayed example a romantic relationship, that he is not able to do it. No matter how great the director is.

[Crook]

I never said he wouldn't be able to do it, I said I wasn't sure he could. Which is....perfectly valid, considering there has been no indication of that ability from Nolan.

I don't know why people would assume that he could, just because he is a good director. People have their niche. Maybe romance isn't something for Nolan, who knows.

[elgato]

I finished finally my Shadow Of The Bat script, be prepared because it comes with a small viral camaign, posters and fan art

[jmc]

Benefit of the doubt.

[Majik1387]

I finished finally my Shadow Of The Bat script, be prepared because it comes with a small viral camaign, posters and fan art
Fail.:down:down:down:down:down:down:down

[batboy99]

theres really no other good name,as mush as it sucks, its probably one of the better titles mentioned

[Majik1387]

No, it really isn't.

[batboy99]

i havent really seen anything better(and thats pretty bad cuz SOTB isnt really a good title either)

[Laderlappen]

That's because fans suggests baaaaad titles.

[elgato]

Fail.:down:down:down:down:down:down:down

I love that name! I know some people hate it, but I can't see other title, That or BATMAN DUALITY

[Ledlunar]

shannon sossamon would make the best Catwoman ever, shes has a feline look and would look good ina black jump suit, I love Darwin Cooke's Catwoman design best, the one wiht goggles from Hush,,, but yea google her and check it out shes hot... and was in "a knights tale" with Heath haha

[elgato]

This is for Christina Ricci fans (if there are left)

http://i130.photobucket.com/albums/p242/jjetao/Ricci/46.jpg

[metal666]

Wow ^ is that a manip or did she dress up like that for real?

Edit:
Has Aishwarya Rai been mentioned? She seems like a pretty good actress and looks kinda cat-y
http://pic.aceboard.net/img/156632/313/1145031576.jpg

sorry, did not mean for that to be so huge:(

[Laderlappen]

shannon sossamon would make the best Catwoman ever, shes has a feline look and would look good ina black jump suit, I love Darwin Cooke's Catwoman design best, the one wiht goggles from Hush,,, but yea google her and check it out shes hot... and was in "a knights tale" with Heath hahashannon sossamon? Why? (I'm extremely curious)

[Ibn]

Wow ^ is that a manip or did she dress up like that for real?

Edit:
Has Aishwarya Rai been mentioned? She seems like a pretty good actress and looks kinda cat-y
http://pic.aceboard.net/img/156632/313/1145031576.jpg

sorry, did not mean for that to be so huge:(


More of her the better.

[jmc]

I love Aish's eyes, she's so pretty!

[batboy99]

no, thats a real photo of Ricci

and as much as I love Rai, id rather her be Talia(though that wont happen)Wow ^ is that a manip or did she dress up like that for real?

Edit:
Has Aishwarya Rai been mentioned? She seems like a pretty good actress and looks kinda cat-y
http://pic.aceboard.net/img/156632/313/1145031576.jpg

sorry, did not mean for that to be so huge:(

[Vs-F-J]

I don't think Catwoman would be a role Aishwarya would accept. Too risque for her cultural sensibilities (P.S. I mean that respectfully, not snidely!)

[Majik1387]

Keep Rai out of the movie please.

[batboy99]

why whats wrong with her?

[Majik1387]

She doesn't work for any of the Batman female characters.

[batboy99]

she wouldnt be bad for talia(if they keeps her middle-eastern) but i think im gonna agree

[Majik1387]

She's not right for Talia other than being the character's ethnicity.

[Ledlunar]

Shes a good actress and looks the way many artists portray her (Jim Lee for one), and yea thats all you need really,

and theres something in her eyes

[batboy99]

well, shes beautiful like talia should be, but i really dont think she would take the role anyways

[Laderlappen]

I wouldn't believe A Rai as Liam Neeson's daughter.

She's beautiful, but her acting skills is not in the same league as the rest of the cast.

[Laderlappen]

Good as in 'ok, decent', or good as in spectacular. Because looking at her filmography, if she would stand next to Bale, Caine, Oldman, Freeman, Gyllenhaal, Eckhart, & Ledger, I gotta tell you, she would look very small.

[batboy99]

shes decent, not that great...

[Ledlunar]

yea but Lots of actors have done bad films, and Heath Ledger besides being given credit for like the patriot and brokeback mountain hasnt done alot hes done teen movies all sorts, so whos to say, as the joker though I think he will blow our socks off also michael caine has done a slew of bad movies, maybe she doesnt get offered the best roles always , but I kindof like that before American Psycho Christian Bale wasnt terrific in my eyes,,, though he is. Halle Berry is a big name and look at her as Catwoman :cmad: Shes got no repect for any role just the paycheck shes only a big name for showing nipples and being a minority in my eyes,,,,,, I think Shannyn Sossamon is a much better actress she was great in the Rules Of Attraction.

[Laderlappen]

^ All actors have made bad movies(well almost all). Robert De Niro, Marlon Brando, Laurence Olivier, Meryl Streep, Bette Davis has all made bad movies. I'm not focusing on the bad movies they have done, but the good ones. I'm asctually not focusing on the quality of their movies, but more on the quality of their performances. The good ones.

[Ledlunar]

aight< Ali G voice

[elgato]

Shannynn Sossamonn would do a nice catwoman in the JLA movie

[batboy99]

i wouldnt beleive it either, i dont think shes that bad with acting, probably not up to par with the rest though as you said

[Vs-F-J]

Aishwarya Rai could certainly pull off being half caucasian (if Nolan's Talia was going to be half caucasian (father), half Arab (mother) or something like that). But I suppose there isn't much resemblance between Neeson and Rai.

[Two-Face]

You might not like her cos she's not American.

Olga Kurylenko she's also the new Bondgirl

http://i191.photobucket.com/albums/z304/Two-Face24/olga-kurylenko-front.jpg

http://i191.photobucket.com/albums/z304/Two-Face24/olga-kurylenko-lingerie06.jpg

[Vs-F-J]

You might not like her cos she's not American.

Olga Kurylenko she's also the new Bondgirl

Is she really?! Wow! :up:

I could see her for Talia but not really for Catwoman.

[Laderlappen]

You might not like her cos she's not American.

Olga Kurylenko she's also the new Bondgirl Actually, the reason I don't like her for any role is not because she's not american, but because she's the new Bond girl.

And off topic, I prefer(lookwise) the other girl. Don't know anything about their acting.

[Ibn]

She doesn't work for any of the Batman female characters.


What the hell is your problem with her? Every thread her name pops up in, you never even give a person a chance to explain. I mean I haven't seen her act alot, but she's at the very least better than f'in Katie Holmes. She's perfect for friggin Talia, in EVERY aspect. Perfect. And to some of the rest of you cats, how many mixed people do you actually know? I mean my mothers white, my fathers black, and I look like a Rican. If people can't come to "believe" that there are such things in the world as dark children who come from white parents, than we need not be concerned about if they like anything about the movie. Anything about anything come to think of it. That's ridiculous.

I don't think Catwoman would be a role Aishwarya would accept. Too risque for her cultural sensibilities (P.S. I mean that respectfully, not snidely!)


Damn. Just how sensitive are they? I never got that. My favorite choice for Talia is Indira Varma, and the movie she's famous for is nowhere near what one might call.............. appropriate.

[Laderlappen]

She's perfect for friggin Talia, in EVERY aspect. Perfect. You just said you've not seen her act much.

And to some of the rest of you cats, how many mixed people do you actually know? I mean my mothers white, my fathers black, and I look like a Rican. If people can't come to "believe" that there are such things in the world as dark children who come from white parents, than we need not be concerned about if they like anything about the movie. Anything about anything come to think of it. That's ridiculous.I hope you don't get offended of this race thing. It's not we hate mixed people or people with a different color. But you have to look at it from a filmmakers perspective. Nolan made Ra's white because of the twist. They could have kept Ken W for Ra's but it was better and more interesting this way. Not because he was white but because of the unexpected twist and ending.
And because Ra's and Talia is from the same race in the comics, you'd think it would be very clear that they would make Talia white as well.
A child with parents with different races is normal yes, but unusual. And when something is unusual on film it needs to have an explanation. Sure if its says on paper that Talia is mixed sure.
It's not just a race thing. On film fat kids often have fat parents. Or atleast one. Or somebody with glasses often has a parent tha wears glasses. They make a character look like their parents to make it more believeable.

But you're not just asking to change a character's color, but doing it without a reason that's essential to the plot of the movie.

[Vs-F-J]

Damn. Just how sensitive are they? I never got that. My favorite choice for Talia is Indira Varma, and the movie she's famous for is nowhere near what one might call.............. appropriate.

Yeah but Indira Varma is British, so she doesn't have to worry about offending her home nation. We're a pretty liberal lot here :cwink:. If she had been born and raised in India it might be a different story!

Because Ra's and Talia is from the same race in the comics, you'd think it would be very clear that they would make Talia white as well.

Well to me it would also make sense if Nolan explained that in Ra's past he met a woman of mixed Arab and Chinese descent (as in the comics), who he married and had a child with (Talia). The actress playing Talia could then be anything from white, Middle Eastern or Eastern European to Latino, Asian or mixed. As long as she looks convincing!

[Crook]

Well to me it would also make sense if Nolan explained that in Ra's past he met a woman of mixed Arab and Chinese descent (as in the comics), who he married and had a child with (Talia). The actress playing Talia could then be anything from white, Middle Eastern or Eastern European to Latino, Asian or mixed. As long as she looks convincing!
Exactly. Making Ra's white fit the twist of the movie, but it makes no sense to make Talia white as well since you don't need to.

Mixed relationships DO exist, and for someone as (supposedly) old as Ra's, miscegenation with foreigners is absolutely possible.

[Laderlappen]

Well to me it would also make sense if Nolan explained that in Ra's past he met a woman of mixed Arab and Chinese descent (as in the comics), who he married and had a child with (Talia). The actress playing Talia could then be anything from white, Middle Eastern or Eastern European to Latino, Asian or mixed. As long as she looks convincing!If that would have been explained then sure, but I can't see any possible reason why Ras' orgin should be explained. Especially not now when he's gone.

[Laderlappen]

Exactly. Making Ra's white fit the twist of the movie, but it makes no sense to make Talia white as well since you don't need to.

Mixed relationships DO exist, and for someone as (supposedly) old as Ra's, miscegenation with foreigners is absolutely possible.Need is not a very good word. I don't understand what you mean by "need to" because it's way easier to find a white actress than a mixed actress to fit the role. And it would make sense to make a white guy's daughter white. Why wouldn't it?

Actually,
it makes no sense to make Talia mixed since you don't need to.

[Vs-F-J]

If that would have been explained then sure, but I can't see any possible reason why Ras' orgin should be explained. Especially not now when he's gone.

Not Ra's origin, it would be explained in Talia's origin (and they'd need to at least explain a little about her to make it clear that she was the previous villain's daughter!)

I don't understand what you mean by "need to" because it's way easier to find a white actress than a mixed actress to fit the role. And it would make sense to make a white guy's daughter white. Why wouldn't it?

Because there are plenty of white men in the world with mixed daughters. The amount of wealthy white men with exotic wives in real life speaks for itself. Besides, Ra's is a globetrotter, so it's perfectly normal he may have met a foreign woman and had a mixed daughter. Then Talia would faithfully resemble the comic character whilst still keeping faith with Liam Neeson's Ra's al Ghul.

[Laderlappen]

Not Ra's origin, it would be explained in Talia's origin (and they'd need to at least explain a little about her to make it clear that she was the previous villain's daughter!)


Why would Talia have an orgin?


Because there are plenty of white men in the world with mixed daughters. The amount of wealthy white men with exotic wives in real life speaks for itself. Besides, Ra's is a globetrotter, so it's perfectly normal he may have met a foreign woman and had a mixed daughter. Then Talia would faithfully resemble the comic character whilst still keeping faith with Liam Neeson's Ra's al Ghul.It wouldn't make sense for a white guy to have a white daughter because there are plenty of white men in the world with mixed daughters?

Nobody has still not come up with any reason at all for Talia to be "mixed".

[jmc]

Guys, there's a Talia thread, how about leaving this thread to Cat related stuff. :cwink:

[Ledlunar]

ouch, She'd cry if she read that one.....

[Vs-F-J]

Why would Talia have an orgin?

Does she just appear out of thin air then?

Nobody has still not come up with any reason at all for Talia to be "mixed".

How about because the original character is mixed race and just because her father has now become white it doesn't automatically mean she has to change and become fully white too. She could still be depicted in the same mixed way as she is in the comics, and nobody has come up with any good reason yet for why Talia couldn't be. :cwink:

Guys, there's a Talia thread, how about leaving this thread to Cat related stuff. :cwink:

The Cats stuff has run dry for now. We gotta fill the time with something :oldrazz:! However, perhaps all Talia talk should be discontinued here.

[Laderlappen]

^Forget it. You just don't get it.

[Vs-F-J]

^Oh no, I think I get it alright. I just don't agree with it.

[elgato]

Lol

[Ledlunar]

Shannyn Sossamon is best in my opinion, Angelina wouldnt do it and if she was younger she would be great she just seems old to me, now she would have been great maybe 8 years ago,

[batboy99]

angies a year younger than bale ya know

and i like sossamon, but i dont think shes pretty enough for selina

[Majik1387]

Hell ****ing no to Sossamon. She a worse actress than Katie Holmes.

[batboy99]

i wouldnt say shes that bad, but definetly not that good

[elgato]

JMC, may I ask, where is your avvy from?

[jmc]

^ It's custom, just a little teaser. :cwink:

[elgato]

Oh :yay: thanks

[DorkyFresh]

Shannyn Sossamon is best in my opinion, Angelina wouldnt do it and if she was younger she would be great she just seems old to me, now she would have been great maybe 8 years ago,

she's a year younger than Bale...

[cerealkiller182]

Michelle Monaghan- she might not be the most curvy but i think shes a damn good actress.

[Majik1387]

Meh

[Vs-F-J]

^In all this time I still don't know what "meh" means :funny:. Help me out here, Majik!

[Majik1387]

Meh
1. Indifference; to be used when one simply does not care.
2. The verbal equivalent of a shrug of the shoulders.
3. A random word when people either don't know what to say, don't care, can't answer a question or are too drunk to form a coherent english phrase.
:yay:

[Ibn]

You just said you've not seen her act much.

I hope you don't get offended of this race thing. It's not we hate mixed people or people with a different color. But you have to look at it from a filmmakers perspective. Nolan made Ra's white because of the twist. They could have kept Ken W for Ra's but it was better and more interesting this way. Not because he was white but because of the unexpected twist and ending.
And because Ra's and Talia is from the same race in the comics, you'd think it would be very clear that they would make Talia white as well.
A child with parents with different races is normal yes, but unusual. And when something is unusual on film it needs to have an explanation. Sure if its says on paper that Talia is mixed sure.
It's not just a race thing. On film fat kids often have fat parents. Or atleast one. Or somebody with glasses often has a parent tha wears glasses. They make a character look like their parents to make it more believeable.

But you're not just asking to change a character's color, but doing it without a reason that's essential to the plot of the movie.


But you don't think that sucks though? That he's white for the sake of a twist? BTW, you my friend, are a very civilized and genuine opponent! I commend you.


Yeah but Indira Varma is British, so she doesn't have to worry about offending her home nation. We're a pretty liberal lot here . If she had been born and raised in India it might be a different story!

:wow: . She's British?! I love british women. Those accents:wow:



Guys, there's a Talia thread, how about leaving this thread to Cat related stuff.

Hehe. We got carried away.:woot:


Hell ****ing no to Sossamon. She a worse actress than Katie Holmes.

She's not THAT bad..................................

But I would like Catwoman to have some big........... assets.

[Ledlunar]

did anyone ever think of Queen Latifa?

[MiniBond]

did anyone ever think of Queen Latifa?
yes.....in some of my worse nightmare !:woot: :woot: :woot:

[Two-Face]

Shannyn Sossamon is best in my opinion, Angelina wouldnt do it and if she was younger she would be great she just seems old to me, now she would have been great maybe 8 years ago,



What? jolie is in her 30s same as Bale...

[Laderlappen]

You never seems to be satisfied with your avatars Two-Face.

[Two-Face]

I am satisfied with them, I just change them often...

[MiniBond]

nice angie on this one !:woot:

[Two-Face]

Thanks MiniBond :up:

[MiniBond]

isns't there a "just" missing in your sig ?:woot:

[batboy99]

Catwoman as Wonder Woman? hmm....
http://community.tvguide.com/blog-entry/TVGuide-Editors-Blog/Ausiello-Report/Exclusive-Keri-Russell/800030871

:p

[BuggyRose]

Dagmara Dominczyk for Catwoman

http://www.radiosrq.com/Dagmara_Dominczyk.jpg

http://www.cinemagia.ro/getimg.php?id=1637&size=m

[Laderlappen]

^What do you recommend?

[Vs-F-J]

Dagmara Dominczyk for Catwoman

http://www.radiosrq.com/Dagmara_Dominczyk.jpg

http://www.cinemagia.ro/getimg.php?id=1637&size=m

Very very attractive!!! :grin:

[batboy99]

i love dagmara, but i dont think shes right for catwoman

[CaptainClown]

ei could see that and def not complain

[MiniBond]

Dagmara would have made a great Bond girl by the way !:woot:

[Spider-Fan83]

Michelle Monaghan- she might not be the most curvy but i think shes a damn good actress.
ya, I'v thought of her, too

funny, though, latest rumors suggest she might be in the Wolverine movie
that would be fine with me, and would satisfy my interest in seeing her in a comic book movie role

but, for the recored she's plenty curvaceous IMO :cwink:

[Vs-F-J]

Dagmara would have made a great Bond girl by the way !:woot:

Absolutely! :up:

[Super_Ludacris]

Carla Guingo

[Laderlappen]

No

I do not see how people think this Dagmara woman is good enough to play Selina.

[MiniBond]

No

I do not see how people think this Dagmara woman is good enough to play Selina.
I can't wait to hear you when the selina choice will be revealed (if it happens of course)!:woot: :grin:

[Laderlappen]

I can assure you it will be somebody that has done any actual work.

[anrrd_2]

so...not to beat a dead horse or anything....but im all for theron ;)

[Super_Ludacris]

Carla Guigino

[anrrd_2]

^i like her and all....but i just dont think she would be a good selina.

how tall is she? because she seems really short...selina should be somewhat tall and lanky

[Super_Ludacris]

She aint short lol

[anrrd_2]

well the first picture of her i see in my mind is of her standing next to Marv in sin city....she looks very dwarfish next to mickey rourke lol

[Super_Ludacris]

Yo....Its Marv not mini-me lol

[Vs-F-J]

^i like her and all....but i just dont think she would be a good selina.

how tall is she? because she seems really short...selina should be somewhat tall and lanky

I agree with you 100% - whoever's cast as Selina would ideally be of a decently tall stature. I don't think you mean the word lanky though, as that means someone who's clumsily and unattractively tall. Statuesque or willowy is best, as they mean being tall in a graceful and attractive way. :cwink: :up:

[Super_Ludacris]

Carla's like 5'8 or something....where'd all this small talk come from?

[anrrd_2]

^the small talk came from me thinking she was short (based on my mental image of her next to mickey rourke)....

ya V, i meant LEGGY not LANKY.....but STATUESQUE is much better

[Vs-F-J]

Carla's like 5'8 or something....where'd all this small talk come from?

5'8" is cool :up:.

ya V, i meant LEGGY not LANKY.....but STATUESQUE is much better

Leggy's a great word too :up:!

[anrrd_2]

5'8! wow.... how tale is bale? it would be wierd if she was taller lol.

[Vs-F-J]

5'8! wow.... how tale is bale? it would be wierd if she was taller lol.

It's no problem, Bale's over 6ft tall! However, I checked Carla's height on imdb.com and she's only 5'5". That's not exactly statuesque in my book :csad:.

[anrrd_2]

ya my wife is 5'4...shes more lawn-nomb-esque than statuesque lol

[jmc]

Official DC Encyclopedia say Catwoman's height is 170cm, not exactly statuesque so I don't know why there even needs to be a Wonder Woman like argument over height.

[Majik1387]

As long as she's proportional to Bale, then the height is fine. We're not exactly going for every single detail to be in the movie.

[Laderlappen]

Length isn't a thing that matters to me. Selina doesn't necassarily have to be tall.

[Vs-F-J]

:cwink:.

[jmc]

Yeah, at least the Cat lovers are not as bad a some of the Wonder Woman fans.

[Vs-F-J]

Official DC Encyclopedia say Catwoman's height is 170cm, not exactly statuesque so I don't know why there even needs to be a Wonder Woman like argument over height.

You just enjoy being nothing but an old grump nowadays don't you? :whatever: Firstly, I think 5'7" (170cm) could be called decently tall (it ain't SHORT), but regardless of any DC Encyclopaedia I'd still prefer the Catwoman actress to be 5'7" or taller :oldrazz:. In an ideal world, of course :grin:.

[jmc]

Each to his own, I couldn't care less of height as as long the girl is a good actress.

[Vs-F-J]

So if they found a great actress for Catwoman but she was 5ft (153cm) that would be ok with you?

[jmc]

Wouldn't bother me, but the movie makers would have a criteria for the actress required so someone that small would be unlikely anyway. Height, hair colour, eye colour, etc, that stuff just doesn't bother me, it can all be faked, it's film, it's all make believe.

[Vs-F-J]

^Hmmm, quite a smart answer actually :applaud. The only reason why height bothers me is that I think it's actually one of the most difficult things to fake and still look natural. There is a noticeable difference between the overall bodily proportions of someone who's naturally tall (e.g. Charlize Theron) and someone who's naturally short (e.g. Hayden Panetierre), so lengthening the legs of someone who's 5'1" won't give them the same graceful physique as someone who's natrually 5'10".

But I like your chilled attitude towards these trivial matters :up: (even though you came across as grumpy at first :funny:).

[az824]

i think catwoman's character calls for someone who's tall as much as wonder woman. but i do think 5'3" to 5'7" should be the range of height, anything shorter or taller would be extreme for catwoman

[Vs-F-J]

^But 5'3" is a bit too short to be considered tall :huh:. In an ideal world I would be looking for actresses between 5'7"-5'11", but nothing taller than Bale.

One of the reasons for this is because I have noticed that tall women have always looked the most amazing in catsuits IMO. The garment suits their bodies better than short women and gives a sense of graceful elegance (IMO). I base this on Uma Thurman (B&R, Avengers), Charlize Theron (Aeon Flux), Famke Janssen (X-Men), Liz Hurley (Austin Powers), Julie Newmar (Batman), Diana Rigg (Avengers), Kate Beckinsale (Underworld) and so on.

Shortie Eliza Dushku looked sexy in J&SBSB, but it wasn't because of her gracefully long legs and elegant frame (which is what's ideally needed for Catwoman :cwink:).

[jmc]

^ So if you were casting this film, would you deny a great actress, one who seems perfect for the role, one who may bring something unique and special to the role similar to what Ledger is doing, simply because she's an inch too short?

[Vs-F-J]

^ So if you were casting this film, would you deny a great actress, one who seems perfect for the role, one who may bring something unique and special to the role similar to what Ledger is doing, simply because she's an inch too short?

Firstly, I wouldn't cast someone as unconventional for Catwoman as Ledger was for the Joker in the first place! I don't know what that would look like, but it would be too much of a departure from the character I know and love :cwink:.

Secondly, you're getting grumpy again! An inch or two is negotiable, but significantly under my height criterion would be a problem. It doesn't mean I'd dismiss them blindly, it means that great actresses who seem special, unique and perfect for the role AND who are within the right height range would get preference :oldrazz:.

Don't you think real casting agents operate in the same way? You said it yourself that they would have certain criteria that would need to be met (including a height range), and actresses who didn't satisfy that criteria would get the brush-off.

[Laderlappen]

I don't think Catwoman should be eye to eye if the stood next to eachother. I wouldnt like it if she was that tall. She should be shorter. Not extreme like a whole foot shorter.

Like az824 said, 5'3" to 5'7" would be fine.

[cerealkiller182]

heels come into play with the catwoman costume. should that be accounted for?

[jmc]

Firstly, I wouldn't cast someone as unconventional for Catwoman as Ledger was for the Joker in the first place! I don't know what that would look like, but it would be too much of a departure from the character I know and love :cwink:.


Why? Ledger was an odd choice yes, but it looks to have paid off. What's wrong with taking a similar risk with the Catwoman character? You might end up with something totally truly amazing and not just another version of what's been seen before.

And I'm not getting 'grumpy', I'm just asking a genuine questions.

heels come into play with the catwoman costume. should that be accounted for?

It would depend on how they design the suit, could be heels or flat boots. I'm betting on the later due to it being impractical to were heels whilst doing a heist.

[Vs-F-J]

I don't think Catwoman should be eye to eye if the stood next to eachother. I wouldnt like it if she was that tall. She should be shorter. Not extreme like a whole foot shorter.

You're absolutely right, Laderlappen. But since Bale is so tall in the first place (6ft+), the Catwoman actress can afford to be reasonably tall (e.g. 5'9", 5'10") without coming eye-to-eye with him.

heels come into play with the catwoman costume. should that be accounted for?

I can't see Nolan's Catwoman wearing stilettos whilst rushing across rooftops and free-running from building to building with the police on her tail. Her shoes might not be completely flat though.

Why? Ledger was an odd choice yes, but it looks to have paid off. What's wrong with taking a similar risk with the Catwoman character? You might end up with something totally truly amazing and not just another version of what's been seen before.

Or you might end up with Catwoman all over again! Just kidding! But honestly I'm not interested in seeing Catwoman reinvented drastically. They can pick and choose the best bits from her various incarnations and put them together to make her the best portrayal possible, but that's enough for me.

And I'm not getting 'grumpy', I'm just asking a genuine questions.

But it's the way you ask them. It can seem a bit confrontational sometimes. :cwink:

[Super_Ludacris]

^But 5'3" is a bit too short to be considered tall :huh:. In an ideal world I would be looking for actresses between 5'7"-5'11", but nothing taller than Bale.

One of the reasons for this is because I have noticed that tall women have always looked the most amazing in catsuits IMO. The garment suits their bodies better than short women and gives a sense of graceful elegance (IMO). I base this on Uma Thurman (B&R, Avengers), Charlize Theron (Aeon Flux), Famke Janssen (X-Men), Liz Hurley (Austin Powers), Julie Newmar (Batman), Diana Rigg (Avengers), Kate Beckinsale (Underworld) and so on.

Shortie Eliza Dushku looked sexy in J&SBSB, but it wasn't because of her gracefully long legs and elegant frame (which is what's ideally needed for Catwoman :cwink:).


See...thats the thing, Ive met Eliza and she is TINY! She had to be at least 5'2 and that was like a couple of years back. So with that said and also using Keaton as another example when he was cast as Batman, does the actress need to be that tall if the director can work around it? I dunno, Im asking...

[Laderlappen]

5'9", 5'10" is a bit too tall for me.

[Vs-F-J]

Ha! You're only saying that because Keri Russell is 5'4"! :funny:

But if it was the case that, out of all the candidates, the only actress suitable for the role was 5'4", I'd give her some 4 inch shoes to make her 5'8" and that would be good enough for me and problem solved! :grin:

[jmc]

See...thats the thing, Ive met Eliza and she is TINY! She had to be at least 5'2 and that was like a couple of years back. So with that said and also using Keaton as another example when he was cast as Batman, does the actress need to be that tall if the director can work around it? I dunno, Im asking...

There are always tricks to help to pull off illusions in film.

[Laderlappen]

Ha! You're only saying that because Keri Russell is 5'4"! :funny:

But if it was the case that, out of all the candidates, the only actress suitable for the role was 5'4", I'd give her some 4 inch shoes to make her 5'8" and that would be good enough for me and problem solved! :grin:No, actually I'm not.

[az824]

5'9" and above is too tall. with heels she'd be looking straight at Bruce, plus she's never been drawn/shown tall:

http://www.worldsfinestonline.com/WF/batman/btas/episodes/catandtheclawp2/30.jpg
http://www.worldsfinestonline.com/WF/batman/tnba/bios/catwoman/04.jpg
http://www.worldsfinestonline.com/WF/thebatman/episodes/06catbat/24.jpg
http://i3.photobucket.com/albums/y71/Azrael24/2.jpg

[batboy99]

Who cares about height, acting is what matters and how they portray the character. Eliza would be a great selina(shes tied with russell for me), you arent gonna rule her out just cuz shes short

[Vs-F-J]

Yeah I am actually, plus the fact that she's too young and that she doesn't meet the calibre of the other actors :cwink:

5'9" and above is too tall. with heels she'd be looking straight at Bruce, plus she's never been drawn/shown tall:

She won't be wearing high heels, so she would be more or less 5'9" straight and he'd be 6ft, which is a decent height ratio between them! Arwen and Aragorn had a similar height ratio in TLOTR, it is wasn't a problem!

But it actually doesn't matter to me how tall she is, only how short! :hehe: