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flickchick85
05-10-2008, 12:16 AM
Kate Winslet is my Poison Ivy
That's not a bad idea, either! Though I doubt we'll be seeing her in the Nolan-verse. But ya never know. I just want to see her work with Christian and Chris one way or another. :)

ETA: Cheers, jmc. :up::up:

Crook
05-10-2008, 02:49 AM
Well, I know she wouldn't pass you most of you guys' "hotness requirement," but I would love to see the other Kate, Kate Winslet, in this role. Granted, this is a female perspective, but I just think Selina should be more of a classic beauty than "hot." Winslet has this retro-beauty look that I think could be perfect. Plus, I've always wanted to see her do a movie with Christian Bale (since they are 2 of my favorite actors), and be directed by Chris Nolan. She's also the right age for Christian. And for the record, I do think both Kate Winslet and Cate Blanchett are two of the best actresses (if not THE BEST) of all-time. They're just amazing.

Charlize or Kate Beckinsale wouldn't be bad choices either, but I would not want to see Angelina as Catwoman.
While I adore Winslet, I think she'd be miscast here. Selina always gave off the thrilling, youthful, sophisticated sexpot vibe, and Winslet doesn't encompass ANY of those traits at all. Ditto for Blanchett.

ModestMr.Green
05-10-2008, 02:55 AM
For the record, Jolie couldn't possibly portray a believable Catwoman. How could Bruce not make the connection between Selina Kyle's enormous lips and the equally large lips hanging out of Cat's mask? I mean, come on.

Crook
05-10-2008, 03:01 AM
That's not much of an argument. The Catwoman mask itself isn't a good disguise itself. No matter who it is under that mask, she'll be fairly recognizable at a good first glance. Not Jolie's fault in the least.

But the point is moot, since not only is Catwoman rarely seen at her job, but Batman figures out who she is anyway.

Laderlappen
05-10-2008, 07:26 AM
Well, I know she wouldn't pass you most of you guys' "hotness requirement," but I would love to see the other Kate, Kate Winslet, in this role. Granted, this is a female perspective, but I just think Selina should be more of a classic beauty than "hot." Winslet has this retro-beauty look that I think could be perfect. Plus, I've always wanted to see her do a movie with Christian Bale (since they are 2 of my favorite actors), and be directed by Chris Nolan. She's also the right age for Christian. And for the record, I do think both Kate Winslet and Cate Blanchett are two of the best actresses (if not THE BEST) of all-time. They're just amazing.

Charlize or Kate Beckinsale wouldn't be bad choices either, but I would not want to see Angelina as Catwoman.Let me begin to say that I think Kate W is more beautiful than any of the choices thrown around here.

I do agree that Selina should have a classic beauty intead of a typical hollywood look. Selina should be somewhere between. She should be sexual, and hot without having any inch of ****tyness or looking like a nympho. But there is something about these really great actors like Kate and is hard to explain. Its like that are too great. Like they dont really belong here. A supporting member shouldnt be a bigger actor than the one lead.

jmc
05-10-2008, 08:31 AM
Let me begin to say that I think Kate W is more beautiful than any of the choices thrown around here.

I do agree that Selina should have a classic beauty intead of a typical hollywood look. Selina should be somewhere between. She should be sexual, and hot without having any inch of ****tyness or looking like a nympho. But there is something about these really great actors like Kate and is hard to explain. Its like that are too great. Like they dont really belong here. A supporting member shouldnt be a bigger actor than the one lead.

Whilst I see where you're coming from, I'm going to have to disagree with this statement, numerous occasions the supporting actor has been a greater actor than the lead, if anything it enhances the film to have someone of such talent on board. There's no such thing as too great an actor, to say they don't belong in a superhero film role sort of indicates that role is not good enough for them, but real actors are those who are willing to take on any number of varied roles and give a fantastic performance regardless of the films genre or subject matter, no matter if they're the lead or on screen for only a few moments. Kate Winslet is a real actress, she's a good enough actresses to do any genre, as long as the script and the character is good a superhero film is not beneath her. Whilst she might not be everyone's first choice, I ask, would anyone really complain if an actress of such quality was cast as Catwoman? And given Nolan's casting record for this Batman series where he's cast the actor first and not the character, would it really surprise anyone that he'd cast someone like Winslet for the role?

Laderlappen
05-10-2008, 10:14 AM
Its a bit hard to explain what I feel. I dont really think anybody actually is too good. Like for example Kate, Im very sadisfied with what she's doing and what roles and movies she takes. And that she doesnt make any mainstreem movies like these. Not that theres anything wrong with this.

elgato
05-10-2008, 10:33 AM
Catwoman should be beautiful, and sexy, not in a whore-ish way, but a mysterious dark one, not wearing a skin-tight leather suit, she would look ****ty, she should wear a leather-kind suit, not skin tight leather like a fetish model, but a material like the takara catwoman cool girl has, and adding cat burglar arsenal and even pieces of Batman' suit.
Selina Kyle MUST be beautiful and sexy, but also not looking ****ty
We need a solid actress who can play a sexy woman without making her look like a hooker, someone that has the right profile to fit into Nolan's casting, a beautiful -non whorish- sexy actress, that's why they should cast any of these three ladies, who I think are the best ones to play the cat:

1-Marion Cotillard

2-Keri Russell

3-Eliza Dushku

batboy99
05-10-2008, 10:50 AM
My choices are
Eliza Dushku(of course),marion cotillard,Keri Russell, Kate Beckinsale(shes grown on me as catwoman)
I wouldnt mind someone like Kate Winslet(as mentioned above), though i dont see Emily Deschanel as Catwoman, IMO,shes just too cute for me as selina,but she is a good actress

Darkfly
05-10-2008, 10:55 AM
Just wondering but does anybody honestly think they will ever cast somebody like Kate Winslet or Kate Beckinsale, Winslet being a great actress and all but I really can't see her pulling off Catwoman (just can't see her doing the bad girl & seductive image very well) & really does anybody seriously think Beckinsale has even the slightest chance of ever becoming Catwoman.

EDIT:
I'd love somebody like Evangeline Lilly to do Catowoman, I'm sure its been said before but she at least ticks all the boxes (good actress, decent height, right body shape, natural dark hair, right kinda age, & hot) & I really honestly think she could pull it off. Look at the picture & honestly tell me if you can't see her being Catwoman/Selina Kyle:

http://www.mathies.com/blog/evangeline-lilly-esquire02.jpg

batboy99
05-10-2008, 10:57 AM
its a possibility, not saying it will happen, but it could

regwec
05-10-2008, 10:58 AM
Why wouldn't she? What were the chances of Michael Caine as Alfred, Morgan Freeman as Lucius, or Heath Ledger as The Joker? Converesely, why was Katie Holmes involved with the film?

For me, an actress of a similar physical type to Sienna Guillory or Jaime Murray would be most pleasing.

Darkfly
05-10-2008, 11:01 AM
Why wouldn't she? What were the chances of Michael Caine as Alfred, Morgan Freeman as Lucius, or Heath Ledger as The Joker? Converesely, why was Katie Holmes involved with the film?

For me, an actress of a similar physical type to Sienna Guillory or Jaime Murray would be most pleasing.

I've never been blown away & never thought why did they pick him or her for any of the casting choices for BB or TDK (yeah Ledger was an usual choice but I have nothing against the guy & he was great actor who could do comedy & drama before hand, go figure), & I had never seen Katie Holmes in anything since BB so I wasn't like WTF are you doing in the film though now I know why everybody is upset.

elgato
05-10-2008, 11:36 AM
My choices are
Eliza Dushku(of course),marion cotillard,Keri Russell, Kate Beckinsale(shes grown on me as catwoman)
I wouldnt mind someone like Kate Winslet(as mentioned above), though i dont see Emily Deschanel as Catwoman, IMO,shes just too cute for me as selina,but she is a good actress

Totally agree with batboy :woot:

Crook
05-10-2008, 12:26 PM
She should be sexual, and hot without having any inch of ****tyness or looking like a nympho.


Selina Kyle MUST be beautiful and sexy, but also not looking ****ty
We need a solid actress who can play a sexy woman without making her look like a hooker, someone that has the right profile to fit into Nolan's casting, a beautiful -non whorish- sexy actress
It shouldn't be hard to avoid that. Hell, that's probably the easiest thing you can do since most actresses don't look ****ty or whorish in the first place. As long as the actress can look beautiful and very sexually alluring, then we've reached an ideal choice.

Unless ya'll are one of "those" guys that immediately call a girl ****/whore not because of how they act or what they wear....but because their face is too sexy. :funny:

Kate Winslet is a real actress, she's a good enough actresses to do any genre, as long as the script and the character is good a superhero film is not beneath her. Whilst she might not be everyone's first choice, I ask, would anyone really complain if an actress of such quality was cast as Catwoman? And given Nolan's casting record for this Batman series where he's cast the actor first and not the character, would it really surprise anyone that he'd cast someone like Winslet for the role?
Depends on what you mean by surprise. If he ever cast someone like Winslet, I feel I'd immediately know where he's going with the character. Something I've always feared is he'd forcibly stray away from the flirtatious/slinky traits of Selina, in favor of trying to portray a "real" woman in the process. Winslet just does not have that innate vibe of a sexual and fun girl. Yes, she's a great actress, but completely wrong for this role. Frankly I'm thinking she'd probably come off as boring.

Laderlappen
05-10-2008, 12:33 PM
I dont think Evangeline Lilly ticks all the boxes. The biggest reason against her is that I dont think anybody would actually see anything else than Kate from Lost. And Kate from Lost isnt actually what Id call a brilliant acting performance.

Laderlappen
05-10-2008, 12:37 PM
It shouldn't be hard to avoid that. Hell, that's probably the easiest thing you can do since most actresses don't look ****ty or whorish in the first place. As long as the actress can look beautiful and very sexually alluring, then we've reached an ideal choice.
No, I dont think its that hard to do with a great actress. As long as the character is portrayed with some class an intellegens it comes natural. It was mostly a comment of how I think the character should be portrayed.

Darkfly
05-10-2008, 12:38 PM
I only said Lilly was a good actress, but a role like this is exactly what more actresses should have nowadays to show what they can truly do, look at Matthew Fox he's not just Jack he's been in Vantage Point & Speed Racer alone in the last few months playing completely different type's of characters. But she's not the only actress I can think of to play Catwoman (hell, somebody else suggested her to me) just one of the actresses I'd be more happy with playing Catwoman.

Two-Face
05-10-2008, 01:13 PM
For the record, Jolie couldn't possibly portray a believable Catwoman. How could Bruce not make the connection between Selina Kyle's enormous lips and the equally large lips hanging out of Cat's mask? I mean, come on.

You say something about Bruce Wayne, he disappears when Batman is around the people around don't seem to get that it's the same guy.:whatever:

batboy99
05-10-2008, 03:00 PM
that is a really dumb reason not to cast her as catwoman. as two-face said, bruce always disappears when batman comes, thats a suspison

regwec
05-10-2008, 03:02 PM
Actually, both Bruce Wayne and Selina Kyle have arranged for decoy Batmen/Catwomen to appear when they are in public.

Two-Face
05-10-2008, 03:19 PM
that is a really dumb reason not to cast her as catwoman. as two-face said, bruce always disappears when batman comes, thats a suspison


Exactly :up:

Actually, both Bruce Wayne and Selina Kyle have arranged for decoy Batmen/Catwomen to appear when they are in public.

In Comics Bruce uses Alfred as a decoy but Selina Kyle? How she use someone as a decoy?

batboy99
05-10-2008, 03:24 PM
ya, i dont see Michael Caine in a batsuit anytime soon ;)

jmc
05-10-2008, 04:07 PM
Depends on what you mean by surprise. If he ever cast someone like Winslet, I feel I'd immediately know where he's going with the character. Something I've always feared is he'd forcibly stray away from the flirtatious/slinky traits of Selina, in favor of trying to portray a "real" woman in the process. Winslet just does not have that innate vibe of a sexual and fun girl. Yes, she's a great actress, but completely wrong for this role. Frankly I'm thinking she'd probably come off as boring.

I don't understand why casting Winslet would mean Nolan is going to take away the Selina's traits from the character, it just means he's casting a great actress, he's just adding to an already fantastic cast (which I'm betting no-one expected prior to this Batman series). There's no reason she can't still be sexy and fun even if he wants the character to be more real and have more depth. And as for her being boring, that I'll have to disagree with.

Crook
05-10-2008, 05:09 PM
I don't understand why casting Winslet would mean Nolan is going to take away the Selina's traits from the character, it just means he's casting a great actress, he's just adding to an already fantastic cast (which I'm betting no-one expected prior to this Batman series).
Because Winslet conveys a certain aura about her that you know how she'll play the role. And what she gives off isn't much of a Selina vibe at all. Heath and Oldman aside, Nolan cast the other crew because of the "type" they usually play. Winslet plays the somber/innocent girl in dramas, very well in fact, but not much of anything else.

As I said before, Selina should exude youth and sexiness. I don't care how much they dress up Winslet, she just doesn't have that X factor.

There's no reason she can't still be sexy and fun even if he wants the character to be more real and have more depth. And as for her being boring, that I'll have to disagree with.
"Not fun" if you wanna put it another way.

Laderlappen
05-10-2008, 05:20 PM
Are you trying to say that Kate Winslet can only play one type of character?! :wow: :csad:
Gordon is the ultimate good guy, and Joker is the ultimate bad guy. None of the other characters besides Batman or really any type of types. Its hard to find a "left field" choice for example Rachel Dawes or Alfred.
Christian Bale has played killers in almost all of his biggest movies. So Bale isnt really typecasting to me.

Crook
05-10-2008, 05:24 PM
Are you trying to say that Kate Winslet can only play one type of character?! :wow: :csad:
Kinda. But "type" is a broad term anyway. I'm aware she has acting range, just not in the level of say, DDL or Blanchett.

Gordon is the ultimate good guy, and Joker is the ultimate bad guy. None of the other characters besides Batman or really any type of types. Its hard to find a "left field" choice for example Rachel Dawes or Alfred.
Christian Bale has played killers in almost all of his biggest movies. So Bale isnt really typecasting to me.
I'm not suggesting we go for a left-field choice. I'm saying that because Winslet's usual acting is so far away from what Selina would be, she'd basically have to pull a "Heath" to convince us.

I'd be much more satisfied with someone that already embodies Selina from the get-go.

jmc
05-10-2008, 06:19 PM
So her lack of roles similar in type to the Selina character means she can't be a good choice? And I'd hardly call her acting usual, although I will agree she's not at Blanchett's level.

batboy99
05-10-2008, 06:22 PM
why does an actress have to do a role similar to catwoman to be a good choice? i dont see the point,it would basically be the same thing we have already seen that actress do

az824
05-10-2008, 06:26 PM
Christian Bale has played killers in almost all of his biggest movies. So Bale isnt really typecasting to me.
Whether good or bad he always plays the dark, insane characters. he hasnt really done anything different except maybe 3:10 to Yuma

to those who were talking about Jolie: Christian Bale's lips are very recognizable too, theyre sort of weird looking. plus why not have him figure it out that way? they kiss as batman and catwoman, then theyre kissing as bruce and selina. he figures it out, backs away and she asks, "whats wrong?"

az824
05-10-2008, 06:28 PM
oh and selina could have an assistant (like in BTAS) who can dress up like catwoman to take away the doubts

anrrd_2
05-10-2008, 06:29 PM
Whether good or bad he always plays the dark, insane characters. he hasnt really done anything different except maybe 3:10 to Yuma

to those who were talking about Jolie: Christian Bale's lips are very recognizable too, theyre sort of weird looking. plus why not have him figure it out that way? they kiss as batman and catwoman, then theyre kissing as bruce and selina. he figures it out, backs away and she asks, "whats wrong?"

change jolie to theron and im on board:woot:

regwec
05-10-2008, 07:08 PM
In Comics Bruce uses Alfred as a decoy but Selina Kyle? How she use someone as a decoy?
Holly.

Laderlappen
05-10-2008, 07:37 PM
Whether good or bad he always plays the dark, insane characters. he hasnt really done anything different except maybe 3:10 to Yuma
Thats true. He tends to play very dark characters.
But still, if you compare Batman to his performances in for example American Psycho or The Mashinist, the characters are very different. Equilibrium is maybe the closest, but the characters are still different.

Crook
05-10-2008, 07:37 PM
So her lack of roles similar in type to the Selina character means she can't be a good choice?
No, how she acts in all these types of roles indicates she fits a certain niche (which isn't bad), coupled with the lack of any quality Selina traits, is what makes her not so good of a choice.

why does an actress have to do a role similar to catwoman to be a good choice? i dont see the point,it would basically be the same thing we have already seen that actress do
1) I never said a role had to be similar to Selina. I said the actress had to naturally embody the qualities of Selina. Big difference.
2) That is really funny, considering who your choices are. Not exactly inspired actresses. In fact, they're pretty damn obvious.


to those who were talking about Jolie: Christian Bale's lips are very recognizable too, theyre sort of weird looking. plus why not have him figure it out that way? they kiss as batman and catwoman, then theyre kissing as bruce and selina. he figures it out, backs away and she asks, "whats wrong?"
Batman Forever and Spider-Man 1 covered this already.

batboy99
05-10-2008, 07:42 PM
No, how she acts in all these types of roles indicates she fits a certain niche (which isn't bad), coupled with the lack of any quality Selina traits, is what makes her not so good of a choice.


1) I never said a role had to be similar to Selina. I said the actress had to naturally embody the qualities of Selina. Big difference.
2) That is really funny, considering who your choices are. Not exactly inspired actresses. In fact, they're pretty damn obvious.


Batman Forever and Spider-Man 1 covered this already.so? im not saying they cant cast an actress who has done similar roles, im just saying why do they have to? i read your post wrong,im sorry, and yes,the actresses i like have done some sort of role that is kind of similar, but that isnt the only reason why i like them, and im open to having an actress who hasnt done a role like catwoman(marion cotillard and keri russell for example, and i only like 2 actresses who have done similar typed roles, Eliza eho has done alot of action type, bad girl roles and kate beckinsale,actually besides them, i dont think the other two are that obvious outside of these message boards)

Crook
05-10-2008, 07:45 PM
so? im not saying they cant cast an actress who has done similar roles, im just saying why do they have to?
No one here said that was a requirement. :huh:

i read your post wrong,im sorry, and yes,the actresses i like have done some sort of role that is kind of similar, but that isnt the only reason why i like them, and im open to having an actress who hasnt done a role like catwoman(marion cotillard and keri russell for example, and i only like 2 actresses who have done similar typed roles, Eliza eho has done alot of action type, bad girl roles and kate beckinsale,actually besides them, i dont think the other two are that obvious outside of these message boards)
I'm just not looking at those 4, but the 15 or so candidates you've named within the past year for this role. :o

batboy99
05-10-2008, 07:57 PM
the past is the past,plus i hardly think someone like scarlett johansson was an obvious choice(why i wanted her, god only knows) someone like theron though, yes i have to agree shes pretty obvious and i havent liked that many actresses for catwoman this year, probably from the whole time ive been on these boards, but not in this year, the only actresses iv liked this year are eliza,marion,theron, and russell, ive just started warming up to beckinsale as catwoman, but im still ify on that. and i thought that your post meant that they needed to do a orle similar to selina, again my bad, i read the post wrong

Crook
05-10-2008, 08:14 PM
the past is the past,plus i hardly think someone like scarlett johansson was an obvious choice(why i wanted her, god only knows)
Hot, young, sexually alluring, good actress, worked with Nolan. Sounds obvious to me.

someone like theron though, yes i have to agree shes pretty obvious and i havent liked that many actresses for catwoman this year, probably from the whole time ive been on these boards, but not in this year, the only actresses iv liked this year are eliza,marion,theron, and russell, ive just started warming up to beckinsale as catwoman, but im still ify on that.
I have no problem with obvious candidates. Left-field choices are pretty much a shot in the dark anyway.

American_Idiot
05-10-2008, 08:14 PM
I'm all for Jolie. She's a good actress and actually looks the part.

Beckinsale would work under Nolan's direction.

As for Cuthbert - no way. She'd be better suited for Harley Quinn.

batboy99
05-10-2008, 08:18 PM
Cuthbert for no one,please

American_Idiot
05-10-2008, 08:50 PM
Cuthbert's hot, but she's yet to prove herself worthy to be in this franchise. She hasn't quite reached Katie Holmes' level - and she got the axe.

batboy99
05-10-2008, 09:07 PM
oh yea,h shes smokin, but she cant act for ****,but yeah, shes extreamly hot

American_Idiot
05-10-2008, 09:38 PM
I wouldn't go as far as to say she can't act for ****, but she certainly isn't on the same level as Bale, Ledger, Eckhart, Oldman, Caine, etc.

Harley is a pretty complex character - therefore, it may require someone of higher calibre for the part. Catwoman is most definitely a complex character and would require someone who is damn good.

The Navigator
05-10-2008, 10:03 PM
I'm all for Jolie. She's a good actress and actually looks the part.

She looks too old for Bale now. But agreed with everything else.

Beckinsale would work under Nolan's direction.

As for Cuthbert - no way. She'd be better suited for Harley Quinn.

...and no to both of them.

batboy99
05-10-2008, 10:41 PM
She looks too old for Bale now. But agreed with everything else.Agreed,about 5 yrs ago, she woulda been great



...and no to both of them.No to Cutbert definetly, and im on the wall about Kate, I'm liking her more andm ore, but im still a bit iffy about her acting,honestly, Whiteout is gonna make it or break it for me. Ive seen most of her stuff, i mean, she isnt horrible, but she hasnt really impressed me either,id give her a chance though

American_Idiot
05-10-2008, 11:34 PM
To each their own. I think Beckinsale, under Nolan's direction, would be good.

Before Eckhart was officially cast as Harvey/Two-Face, I'm sure/I know people would've been "meh" about that choice too, but based on the trailers, he looks great in the role.

flickchick85
05-10-2008, 11:54 PM
Because Winslet conveys a certain aura about her that you know how she'll play the role. And what she gives off isn't much of a Selina vibe at all. Heath and Oldman aside, Nolan cast the other crew because of the "type" they usually play. Winslet plays the somber/innocent girl in dramas, very well in fact, but not much of anything else.

"Not fun" if you wanna put it another way.
I have to disagree with ya there, Crook. Winslet's character was neither somber nor innocent in Eternal Sunshine of the Spotless Mind, and she was pitch perfect in that role. She can be fun. She was freakin' hilarious poking fun at herself on Extras.

I doubt Nolan's Catwoman will be of the sexpot variety. I think he'll go with someone who's got a sophisticated air about her, who comes across as Bruce's intellectual equal, but the one difference between them is that she enjoys her double life. I can easily see Winslet playing that, but it's totally understandable if you can't. :yay:

Crook
05-11-2008, 12:06 AM
She looks too old for Bale now.


Agreed,about 5 yrs ago, she woulda been great
Lemme get this straight. This is apparently too old for Bale:

http://img99.imageshack.us/img99/9382/angelinajolie2008sagawand6.jpg

Give me about a minute to laugh at that erroneous statement. :funny:

I have to disagree with ya there, Crook. Winslet's character was neither somber nor innocent in Eternal Sunshine of the Spotless Mind, and she was pitch perfect in that role.
Her role in Eternal was somewhere in the middle. She's a good dramatic actress, but again, lacks that young and energetic vibe for Selina.

She can be fun. She was freakin' hilarious poking fun at herself on Extras.

The cute fun. Not the "jumping off rooftops, try to chase me because I'm a dangerous girl" type of fun. :o

I doubt Nolan's Catwoman will be of the sexpot variety. I think he'll go with someone who's got a sophisticated air about her, who comes across as Bruce's intellectual equal, but the one difference between them is that she enjoys her double life. I can easily see Winslet playing that, but it's totally understandable if you can't. :yay:
I have yet to see Winslet play anything that really suggests the mischievous, slinky, thrillseeker. Hence my apprehension towards her. Well, that and she just doesn't have the "look" and is too old.

As I said before, even if you just take out the sexpot trait for Selina, that's a pretty damn big deviation. Honestly, who DOESN'T associate that with Catwoman? Of course she's much more than a beautiful pin-up girl, but you don't have to sacrifice sexual allure in favor of sophisticated emotional character arcs. Pheiffer struck a good balance, no reason it can't be done again.

ModestMr.Green
05-11-2008, 12:11 AM
Jennifer Morrison.

- Attractive.
- Looks the part.
- Good actress.
- Right age.

http://aratriel.files.wordpress.com/2007/11/jennifer-morrison.jpg

http://www.koolweb.it/up_img/news/Jennifer-Morrison%204.jpg

Any questions?

flickchick85
05-11-2008, 12:12 AM
Well, we'll have to agree to disagree Crook. But for the record, Winslet's not too old - she's younger than Christian Bale. But it sounds like we both just want 2 very different "looks" for Catwoman.

Jolie_Desastre
05-11-2008, 12:15 AM
i was actually shocked at how old she was, always thought she was middle aged back when she was about 27 even.

American_Idiot
05-11-2008, 12:23 AM
Yeah, Jolie being too old next to Bale is a joke. I'm not sure just how old Jolie is, but whatever the number, it doesn't show onscreen. Even the Pitt - as old as he looks in that picture - usually looks years younger than his actual age in the movies (with an exception of Babel).

Crook
05-11-2008, 12:32 AM
Well, we'll have to agree to disagree Crook. But for the record, Winslet's not too old - she's younger than Christian Bale.
"Looks" too old. Last I saw her, was in Little Children, and youthful was far from what she was looking.

But it sounds like we both just want 2 very different "looks" for Catwoman.
Not necessarily. I basically agree that Selina does need to look sophisticated and beautiful. You just apparently don't like the addition of a slinky sexual side. I can't imagine why though, that's been apart of the character since her inception.

flickchick85
05-11-2008, 12:59 AM
Winslet was made up to look frumpy for Little Children, just like the women of The Office. And I don't disagree that there should be something sexual about Catwoman, but I'm a girl, and I think where you see "slinky," I see "trashy." Well, not quite that extreme, but something along those lines. I, as a member of the female audience, want to actually like Catwoman. And I won't like her if she comes off as kinda ****ty.

Sorry, I feel like I should have stated this earlier: I'm not a reader of the comics, so obviously, you're more familiar with the character than I am. My only exposure to Batman was the Animated Series in the early 90's, and obviously, they would have toned down Catwoman's sexual side for the kids. So I guess I'm basing my vision of Catwoman more on what I think Nolan's interpretation of that character should be, simply because that's the only Catwoman I know.

Crook
05-11-2008, 01:14 AM
Winslet was made up to look frumpy for Little Children, just like the women of The Office. And I don't disagree that there should be something sexual about Catwoman, but I'm a girl, and I think where you see "slinky," I see "trashy." Well, not quite that extreme, but something along those lines. I, as a member of the female audience, want to actually like Catwoman. And I won't like her if she comes off as kinda ****ty.
You're mixing the terms up. Slinky doesn't equal trashy, nor ****ty. That's not what I'd want either. I understand the female perspective of wanting a character that strives for more than eye candy. But trust me when I say that if Selina is done RIGHT, then your wishes will be fulfilled. Again, a little bit of sexuality does not deter her as a smart and useful character.

Sorry, I feel like I should have stated this earlier: I'm not a reader of the comics, so obviously, you're more familiar with the character than I am. My only exposure to Batman was the Animated Series in the early 90's, and obviously, they would have toned down Catwoman's sexual side for the kids. So I guess I'm basing my vision of Catwoman more on what I think Nolan's interpretation of that character should be, simply because that's the only Catwoman I know.
That's fine, really. BTAS put out a fantastic take on the character, that's faithful to the comics. But the slinky and flirtacious side was very much present in that incarnation as well. Plenty of occassions where she'd kiss up on Batman, in the middle of a fight or chase. She's playful like that.

ModestMr.Green
05-11-2008, 02:20 AM
Exhibit B.

http://www.vacuumboy9.com/tlh/1p6.jpg

http://i27.photobucket.com/albums/c178/plasticsaint/1622.jpg

flickchick85
05-11-2008, 02:59 AM
Fair enough, Crook. You're totally right that Winslet's never played anything like this character before. But it seems that where we differ is, I'd really like to see her do it for the first time here, and I believe she'd be capable of pulling it off if she wanted to. But as you said, this doesn't seem to be the type of role she'd gravitate to, so the whole scenario is just highly improbable, and the point is kinda moot. And I guess slinky doesn't automatically lead to trashy. You've got me there. ;)

So back to other candidates, as I've mentioned before, I would prefer an old-fashioned retro type of beauty than a modern day "hot chick." I'd place Angelina somewhere in between those 2 categories, and I don't think she looks too old, but she definitely wouldn't be my choice for Catwoman. I thought Kate Beckinsale and Christian Bale had ZERO chemistry in Laurel Canyon, so I wouldn't want her, either. Charlize Theron's not a bad choice.

Someone else who has the look that I imagine for Selina (mainly because she looks so much like Kate Winslet, haha) is Sophia Myles, from Art School Confidential, Underworld, and Tristan + Isolde. She seems like a decent actress, and although she's British, she seems to do a very good American accent on that vampire show she's on now. That said, she's a little younger than most of these other candidates (28), but considering all the cries of "too old," maybe that's a good thing. Has she been mentioned before?

PS. Here's what she looks like:

http://www.the-word-is-not-enough.com/blog/rob/images/_movie_underworld_22-tm.jpg

http://bp1.blogger.com/_BnOj0l4tXYk/R-ElZrTED0I/AAAAAAAAAzg/lUQQMMYmQjc/s400/Sophia+Myles+as+Moonlight%27s+Beth+Turner+Photo+Wa llpaper.jpg

Majik1387
05-11-2008, 03:34 AM
I like Sophia.:up:

Not a fan of Morrison though.:down

jmc
05-11-2008, 04:09 AM
Being British is irrelivant flickchick, 90% of the dark knight cast and crew already is. :woot: As for Sophia Myles, not familiar with her work.

Darkfly
05-11-2008, 04:39 AM
Ah man Sophia Myles, love her, she was Penelope in the awful Thunderbirds live action film & last thing I saw her in was a Doctor Who episode & Underworld Evolution, the only redeeming thing about any of those shows/films.

regwec
05-11-2008, 04:42 AM
Kate Winslet, to my mind, is too little and chunky to play Catwoman.

Darkfly
05-11-2008, 04:45 AM
She is a bit solid but my biggest problem with Winslet is she just doesn't have a sophisticated yet bad girl image going on.

jmc
05-11-2008, 04:47 AM
Kate Winslet, to my mind, is too little and chunky to play Catwoman.

I think 'chunky' is a poor choice of words, I think solid would be a little better, but she's still beautiful. :cwink: Besides, it's nothing a few trips to the gym can't fixed.

Laderlappen
05-11-2008, 04:59 AM
Jennifer Morrison.

- Attractive.
- Looks the part.
- Good actress.
- Right age.
'Good actress' is really not enough. We should get somebody whos really great like the rest of the cast. Jennifer Morrison doesnt have that much acting skills. She have atleast not proven them. How challenging is her performance in HOUSE really?

regwec
05-11-2008, 05:08 AM
I think 'chunky' is a poor choice of words, I think solid would be a little better, but she's still beautiful. :cwink: Besides, it's nothing a few trips to the gym can't fixed.
I don't think that's really true. She has a kind of stocky build, with a large head in relation to her body. She also has quite a heavy jaw. She could tone and trim herself, but she would still be the same physical type. In a similar way, I am of average height and similarly square. If I devoted myself to the gym, then I might achieve a physique like Daniel Craig's, but I wouldn't ever look like David Tennant.

Kate's very pretty, but she simply looks like someone other than Selina, to me.

American_Idiot
05-11-2008, 05:54 PM
^ Agreed. Kate is pretty in her own way, but there are definitely better choices out there for Catwoman. Kate would do better as Vicki Vale or one of Bruce's future love interests.

batboy99
05-11-2008, 07:29 PM
Winslets talents would be wasted if she was Vicki IMO

American_Idiot
05-11-2008, 07:39 PM
^ Nah. Thats like saying Freeman's talents were/are wasted as Luscious Fox, Caine as Alfred.

anrrd_2
05-11-2008, 07:45 PM
^ Nah. Thats like saying Freeman's talents were/are wasted as Luscious Fox, Caine as Alfred.

too true, i think kate would be an excellent vicki

Two-Face
05-11-2008, 07:58 PM
Fair enough, Crook. You're totally right that Winslet's never played anything like this character before. But it seems that where we differ is, I'd really like to see her do it for the first time here, and I believe she'd be capable of pulling it off if she wanted to. But as you said, this doesn't seem to be the type of role she'd gravitate to, so the whole scenario is just highly improbable, and the point is kinda moot. And I guess slinky doesn't automatically lead to trashy. You've got me there. ;)

So back to other candidates, as I've mentioned before, I would prefer an old-fashioned retro type of beauty than a modern day "hot chick." I'd place Angelina somewhere in between those 2 categories, and I don't think she looks too old, but she definitely wouldn't be my choice for Catwoman. I thought Kate Beckinsale and Christian Bale had ZERO chemistry in Laurel Canyon, so I wouldn't want her, either. Charlize Theron's not a bad choice.

Someone else who has the look that I imagine for Selina (mainly because she looks so much like Kate Winslet, haha) is Sophia Myles, from Art School Confidential, Underworld, and Tristan + Isolde. She seems like a decent actress, and although she's British, she seems to do a very good American accent on that vampire show she's on now. That said, she's a little younger than most of these other candidates (28), but considering all the cries of "too old," maybe that's a good thing. Has she been mentioned before?

PS. Here's what she looks like:

http://www.the-word-is-not-enough.com/blog/rob/images/_movie_underworld_22-tm.jpg

http://bp1.blogger.com/_BnOj0l4tXYk/R-ElZrTED0I/AAAAAAAAAzg/lUQQMMYmQjc/s400/Sophia+Myles+as+Moonlight%27s+Beth+Turner+Photo+Wa llpaper.jpg


Looks the part but acting is any good?

batboy99
05-11-2008, 08:11 PM
sophia is someone id see as harley(thanks to miranda fox)

Two-Face
05-11-2008, 08:39 PM
If chosen I prefer if she played Selina (I'm only saying this cos of pure look of her)

jmc
05-11-2008, 11:26 PM
Forgot to post this here. :whatever:

Any complains regarding the design can be addressed to PO Box 100 I Like The Design As Is Road, Australia. :woot:

http://fc07.deviantart.com/fs27/f/2008/132/8/9/Catwoman___No_Allegiance_by_joshwmc.jpg

Majik1387
05-12-2008, 12:21 AM
I actually really like it a lot, design included.

Only one thing bothers me, but if sewn correctly on the fabric, it wouldn't be a bother. Just the line above her breast connected to the zipper.

::mails comment::

;)

flickchick85
05-12-2008, 02:09 AM
Wow, that's really great, jmc. :up: :up: I really hope that's the direction they go in for the Nolan-verse Catwoman, with one possible addition: goggles (night-vision?). I just think it would help with the suspension of disbelief with Bruce not recognizing her if her eyes are covered.

jmc
05-12-2008, 02:16 AM
Thanks flickchick. I'll be honest, I've never been a fan of the whole goggles thing, I've always felt they look out of place, I've done designs with alternate types of eye wear but it never seems to work well so I figured if it's giving me some many problems, it's easier just to get rid of them.

The Navigator
05-12-2008, 02:43 AM
I like the goggles...:(

But this is a great design. I just noticed the lights on her arm/hand, very nice.

Darkfly
05-12-2008, 03:47 AM
pretty damn sweet design

flickchick85
05-12-2008, 02:28 PM
Thanks flickchick. I'll be honest, I've never been a fan of the whole goggles thing, I've always felt they look out of place, I've done designs with alternate types of eye wear but it never seems to work well so I figured if it's giving me some many problems, it's easier just to get rid of them.
That's cool, jmc. Your design, your rules.:woot:

MiniBond
05-12-2008, 02:35 PM
I'm still not sold at all on the rucksack......sounds like Selina going to school !:o:woot::woot:

Crook
05-12-2008, 03:58 PM
It makes sense, to store her stolen goods. I never liked how she was a cat burglar, yet carried absolutely nothing but a whip.

batboy99
05-12-2008, 04:51 PM
If you dont like the actress,just ignore the face, this is my concept for catwoman(i dont expect her costume to look like this in a movie,especially the boots,but i wouldnt be suprised if she has a more armoured/high tech-y suit)
http://fc05.deviantart.com/fs25/i/2008/133/8/7/Catwoman_on_a_rooftop_2_by_batboy99.jpg

And for Beckinsale fans
http://fc03.deviantart.com/fs26/i/2008/133/4/0/Catwoman_on_a_rooftop_by_batboy99.jpg

Majik1387
05-12-2008, 04:53 PM
Maybe she just needs a different looking bag

And very nice Dushku manip Batboy

batboy99
05-12-2008, 04:56 PM
Maybe she just needs a different looking bag

And very nice Dushku manip Batboy
Thanks Majik, means alot coming from you :)

elgato
05-12-2008, 07:39 PM
http://i239.photobucket.com/albums/ff133/gatochico/3.jpg

Majik1387
05-12-2008, 08:11 PM
Elgato, your manips are improving as well.:up:

elgato
05-12-2008, 09:52 PM
Elgato, your manips are improving as well.:up:

Thanks Majik!! :yay:

elgato
05-12-2008, 09:58 PM
I may do something more this week, you can also see more at my DA gallery, your new Teen Titans look awesome!!!

Dark Knight
05-14-2008, 04:42 PM
My choices would be in no particular order....

1. Kate Winslett
2. Kate Beckinsale
3. Angelina Jolie
4. Natalie Portman (my current favorite)

Dark Knight
05-14-2008, 04:44 PM
Fair enough, Crook. You're totally right that Winslet's never played anything like this character before. But it seems that where we differ is, I'd really like to see her do it for the first time here, and I believe she'd be capable of pulling it off if she wanted to. But as you said, this doesn't seem to be the type of role she'd gravitate to, so the whole scenario is just highly improbable, and the point is kinda moot. And I guess slinky doesn't automatically lead to trashy. You've got me there. ;)

So back to other candidates, as I've mentioned before, I would prefer an old-fashioned retro type of beauty than a modern day "hot chick." I'd place Angelina somewhere in between those 2 categories, and I don't think she looks too old, but she definitely wouldn't be my choice for Catwoman. I thought Kate Beckinsale and Christian Bale had ZERO chemistry in Laurel Canyon, so I wouldn't want her, either. Charlize Theron's not a bad choice.

Someone else who has the look that I imagine for Selina (mainly because she looks so much like Kate Winslet, haha) is Sophia Myles, from Art School Confidential, Underworld, and Tristan + Isolde. She seems like a decent actress, and although she's British, she seems to do a very good American accent on that vampire show she's on now. That said, she's a little younger than most of these other candidates (28), but considering all the cries of "too old," maybe that's a good thing. Has she been mentioned before?

PS. Here's what she looks like:

http://www.the-word-is-not-enough.com/blog/rob/images/_movie_underworld_22-tm.jpg

http://bp1.blogger.com/_BnOj0l4tXYk/R-ElZrTED0I/AAAAAAAAAzg/lUQQMMYmQjc/s400/Sophia+Myles+as+Moonlight%27s+Beth+Turner+Photo+Wa llpaper.jpg



I actually thought Bale and Beckinsale had good chemistry and Canyon.

flickchick85
05-14-2008, 05:31 PM
^Fair enough. I suppose chemistry is just as subjective as beauty.

bethehero7404
05-15-2008, 10:14 AM
For the record, Jolie couldn't possibly portray a believable Catwoman. How could Bruce not make the connection between Selina Kyle's enormous lips and the equally large lips hanging out of Cat's mask? I mean, come on.

It is the same as Clark Kent/Superman with or without glasses. Lois couldn't tell. Why would this be any different.

Good point none the less.

bethehero7404
05-15-2008, 10:14 AM
For the record, Jolie couldn't possibly portray a believable Catwoman. How could Bruce not make the connection between Selina Kyle's enormous lips and the equally large lips hanging out of Cat's mask? I mean, come on.

It is the same as Clark Kent/Superman with or without glasses. Lois couldn't tell. Why would this be any different.

Good point none the less.

Laderlappen
05-15-2008, 11:14 AM
Ive always felt that was kinda stupid. He puts on a pair of glasses and nobody recognises him? Sounds like a Bugs Bunny cartoon.

elgato
05-15-2008, 12:11 PM
Marion Cotillard for Catwoman, nuff said

http://i291.photobucket.com/albums/ll318/margochanning_2008/imdb4.jpg

anrrd_2
05-15-2008, 12:19 PM
Ive always felt that was kinda stupid. He puts on a pair of glasses and nobody recognises him? Sounds like a Bugs Bunny cartoon.

heh
http://www.passfailstudios.com/comics/39.jpg

Crook
05-15-2008, 12:46 PM
It is the same as Clark Kent/Superman with or without glasses. Lois couldn't tell. Why would this be any different.

Good point none the less.
No, it is not a good point. At all. Don't encourage moronic statements.

Marion Cotillard for Catwoman, nuff said

http://i291.photobucket.com/albums/ll318/margochanning_2008/imdb4.jpg
WHOA, mama! :wow:

Is there more like this? I always thought Marion looked good and had potential, but she looks stunning here! Love the blonde hair, too!

elgato
05-15-2008, 01:14 PM
No, it is not a good point. At all. Don't encourage moronic statements.


WHOA, mama! :wow:

Is there more like this? I always thought Marion looked good and had potential, but she looks stunning here! Love the blonde hair, too!

Marion's the complete package crook, looks, sexyness, elegance, and astonishing acting, besides, she looks like my g/f :woot:

Crook
05-15-2008, 01:18 PM
PM pics ftw! :cmad:

Or more pics of Marion from that shoot. Either one will do. :o

elgato
05-15-2008, 01:27 PM
PM pics ftw! :cmad:

Or more pics of Marion from that shoot. Either one will do. :o

Easy tiger, I will post some Marion pics, or do you want pics of my g/f?!!! :cmad:

Crook
05-15-2008, 01:30 PM
Why not both, you selfish bum?! :cmad:

elgato
05-15-2008, 01:36 PM
There's no more from that photoshoot but here's more from Marion:

http://i239.photobucket.com/albums/ff133/gatochico/Taxi_021.jpg

http://i239.photobucket.com/albums/ff133/gatochico/011.jpg

http://i239.photobucket.com/albums/ff133/gatochico/002.jpg

http://i239.photobucket.com/albums/ff133/gatochico/OUT944974-1.jpg

MORE TO COME SOON!!

elgato
05-15-2008, 01:37 PM
Why not both, you selfish bum?! :cmad:

Hey!! I post pics of her you post pics of yourss!!!!! :cmad:

:oldrazz:

Crook
05-15-2008, 01:45 PM
http://i239.photobucket.com/albums/ff133/gatochico/Taxi_021.jpg

Butt....sex.? :huh:

Hey!! I post pics of her you post pics of yourss!!!!! :cmad:

:oldrazz:
But I don't have a gf, so ha! :cmad:
Best I can do is pm some ex's. lol :o

jmc
05-15-2008, 03:31 PM
http://i291.photobucket.com/albums/ll318/margochanning_2008/imdb4.jpg

Never seen her as a blond before. Whoa. :wow:


http://i239.photobucket.com/albums/ff133/gatochico/OUT944974-1.jpg

MORE TO COME SOON!!

Hmm, this looks familiar....:cwink:

elgato
05-15-2008, 03:43 PM
Never seen her as a blond before. Whoa. :wow:



Hmm, this looks familiar....:cwink:

TRUE! That's the one you used for your painting, isn't it?

Laderlappen
05-15-2008, 05:09 PM
Anybody that hasnt seen La Vie En Rose, see it! Marion is soo great in it. The greatest performance Ive seen by an actress in over 10 years.

jmc
05-15-2008, 05:41 PM
TRUE! That's the one you used for your painting, isn't it?

Except I had a much bigger version to work off. Anybody that hasnt seen La Vie En Rose, see it! Marion is soo great in it. The greatest performance Ive seen by an actress in over 10 years.

She was great in it, I've seen her in a number of French films now and rest assure doubters, the girl is good. She would be a great choice as Catwoman.

elgato
05-15-2008, 06:12 PM
Anybody that hasnt seen La Vie En Rose, see it! Marion is soo great in it. The greatest performance Ive seen by an actress in over 10 years.

Trust ladderlappen, Marion Cotillard had the oscar in her hands even before the ceremony (i mean for her acting)

Crook
05-15-2008, 07:46 PM
Shame her accent might get in the way though. :(

jmc
05-15-2008, 08:01 PM
Shame her accent might get in the way though. :(

I don't see it as an issue for two reasons, firstly she speaks very good English to the point where her French accent is very subtle and not you're stereotypical 'Pepe Le Pew' style French accent. Second, dialect coach can help with any vocal anomalies. Plus I think what most Americans don't realise is that their accent is actually not that hard to do as most of the planet is bombarded with American content day in day out in some form or another.

Majik1387
05-15-2008, 08:03 PM
Which she could work on, since the majority of the BB cast worked on their accents as well.

Crook
05-15-2008, 08:14 PM
I don't see it as an issue for two reasons, firstly she speaks very good English to the point where her French accent is very subtle and not you're stereotypical 'Pepe Le Pew' style French accent. Second, dialect coach can help with any vocal anomalies. Plus I think what most Americans don't realise is that their accent is actually not that hard to do as most of the planet is bombarded with American content day in day out in some form or another.
I don't know if that's easy. I've watched most of the interviews with her on youtube, and while her accent isn't terribly bad, it's still noticeably French. And not to dog the French, but they have the worst accent when speaking English. :o

It's not like the British or Australians, where they can still speak the language very easily. With the French, every word and syllable sounds like a struggle.

jmc
05-15-2008, 08:27 PM
I don't know if that's easy. I've watched most of the interviews with her on youtube, and while her accent isn't terribly bad, it's still noticeably French. And not to dog the French, but they have the worst accent when speaking English. :o

It's not like the British or Australians, where they can still speak the language very easily. With the French, every word and syllable sounds like a struggle.

Americans and Aussie speak the same language yet how many Americans can do an Australian accent well? I can tell you, very few, the reason, Americans get very little content from us so you don't hear what we sound like, America dishes out so much content compared to the rest of the world in terms of film, TV and music, it's hard not to hear the accent, even in countries were English is not the native are bombarded with Yank content everyday, anyone who can speak even basic English can put on an American accent because they hear it more often than any other foreign accent.

Crook
05-15-2008, 08:32 PM
It's easy for those people because English is their native language. Not so for the French. Hence why when you hear an Australian or British person speak, it's very fluid, albeit in a different accent.

That's much different with a French person, who tend to speak slowly and mumble the words because it's not an easy language for them to speak in.

flickchick85
05-15-2008, 09:40 PM
I agree, Cotillard's English is not so great. That's the only issue I'd have with her being Catwoman, the fact that she'd almost definitely have a French accent. But it's not a deal breaker for me. I think she could be good.

jmc
05-15-2008, 11:46 PM
It's easy for those people because English is their native language. Not so for the French. Hence why when you hear an Australian or British person speak, it's very fluid, albeit in a different accent.

That's much different with a French person, who tend to speak slowly and mumble the words because it's not an easy language for them to speak in.

Like I said, US media content bombards the four corners of the planet everyday, you hear something long enough you'll eventually pick it up in some form and Cotillard being an actress who speaks good English already would probably pick it up faster than others, who knows, she may be practicing now for all we know to broaden her appeal to Hollywood studios. I agree, Cotillard's English is not so great. That's the only issue I'd have with her being Catwoman, the fact that she'd almost definitely have a French accent. But it's not a deal breaker for me. I think she could be good.

I don't know what you've seen recently of her, but from what I've seen, the girl has great English, better than most English speaking Frenchmen.

Laderlappen
05-16-2008, 04:41 AM
I LOOOVE Marions accent when she speaks english.

I dont really know what to judge on her accent. I dont think anybody of us could or should. She's french so its very normal for her to speak with a french accent. And theres no reason for her to speak with an american accent in the interviews she has done. She hasnt ever played an american character. I think her english has getting better.

If you've heard Javier Bardem in interviews, his english isnt that good either. But he can pull of a pretty decent one still.

batboy99
05-16-2008, 06:20 AM
Marion Cotillard for Catwoman, nuff said

http://i291.photobucket.com/albums/ll318/margochanning_2008/imdb4.jpgShe looks great here!:wow: Though some other pics ive seen her as a blonde didnt really suit her, but she looks awesome here

anrrd_2
05-16-2008, 07:27 AM
Marion Cotillard for Catwoman, nuff said

http://i291.photobucket.com/albums/ll318/margochanning_2008/imdb4.jpg

well, shes officially on my list for selina...not my #1 but still im pulling for her.

theron, russell, cottilard, beckinsale, deschanel

flickchick85
05-16-2008, 11:04 AM
Like I said, US media content bombards the four corners of the planet everyday, you hear something long enough you'll eventually pick it up in some form and Cotillard being an actress who speaks good English already would probably pick it up faster than others, who knows, she may be practicing now for all we know to broaden her appeal to Hollywood studios.

I don't know what you've seen recently of her, but from what I've seen, the girl has great English, better than most English speaking Frenchmen.
I was referring to her Oscar interviews. She's definitely not completely fluent. That said, speaking in person and memorizing lines are two very different things, the latter of which she does well, if The Good Year was any indication. And like you said, I'm sure she's been practicing. But speaking English totally without a French accent? I think that's still a few years off for her.

Like I said, though, that's not a deal breaker for me. The name Selina has both Greek and French origins, so it could totally make sense for her to have a French accent. But...she couldn't speak to Batman as Catwoman, or he'd put 2 and 2 together.

batboy99
05-16-2008, 01:59 PM
deshanel? No way, the only deschanel id like in batman is Zooey as harley

jmc
05-16-2008, 06:04 PM
I was referring to her Oscar interviews. She's definitely not completely fluent. That said, speaking in person and memorizing lines are two very different things, the latter of which she does well, if The Good Year was any indication. And like you said, I'm sure she's been practicing. But speaking English totally without a French accent? I think that's still a few years off for her.


Well it's a good thing Batman 3 is three years away then. :cwink:

regwec
05-16-2008, 06:12 PM
At least. We might not see another Batman movie for much longer than that, if TDK bombs.

In which case, the next actress to play Catwoman could be anything between 30 and 15 years of age at the moment. All bets are off, I suppose!

az824
05-16-2008, 06:59 PM
i dont think thats going to happen but anything is possible

David Rice
05-16-2008, 07:43 PM
The Dark Knight will not bomb.

Crook
05-16-2008, 07:45 PM
At least. We might not see another Batman movie for much longer than that, if TDK bombs.

In which case, the next actress to play Catwoman could be anything between 30 and 15 years of age at the moment. All bets are off, I suppose!
In which case I have a few candidates at the nearby junior high school. :o

Laderlappen
05-16-2008, 07:45 PM
Its expected to be one of the biggest box-office hits of the year. Why would it bomb?

flickchick85
05-16-2008, 07:57 PM
Well it's a good thing Batman 3 is three years away then. :cwink:
Ha, you kid, but that's actually a good point. She could very well master English by then (and the accent), in which case, she would definitely be one of my top candidates.

jmc
05-16-2008, 09:17 PM
Like it or not Ledger's death will ensure Dark Knight is not a bomb.

az824
05-17-2008, 12:04 PM
true. i have mixed feelings about that. but i know several people going to see the movie for that reason

jmc
05-17-2008, 04:47 PM
^ I get what you mean, one one hand I would like a critical and commercially successful film, however part of me wishes people would see the film for the right reasons and not for the novelty factor of seeing a famous actors last performance (well almost last). Not much you can do about it though.

project13
05-20-2008, 05:23 PM
A LIGHTER SIDE TO THE FELINE FATALE

How about we give Catwoman a more heroic role than she has in the comics?

Just as Nolan made Two-Face a "murderous vigilante", Catwoman would be a Robin-Hood-esque vigilante. She would be a cat bugalar who would steal to help the downtrodden and destitute of Gotham (stealling ill-gotten valuables,especially jewelry, and anonymously donate the procceds to charity).Catwoman would be far less serious than Batman (having a cold, humorous nature) and sometimes finds her battles with Batman, Two-Face and Riddler as amusing and would mess with their heads. This would make Selina Kyle the "Fire" to Bruce Wayne's "Ice" in both their romance and crime-fighting. Selina would be an example of what the Batman would be like if he were a bit more...loose.

Catwoman's robberies would come into conflict with Batman arriving to the "East End" to apprehend her for her crimes,just as she was pulling off a heist that involves some "cats-eye" crystal that is sold on the black market. She would have great fighting skills, though it would be second only to the Dark Knight. After, helping Bruce in taking down Two-Face and the Riddler, he leaves the protection of the East End to Catwoman, though he doesn't agree with her methods. Selina would lament to herself that although she's irritated with Bruce's cold,serious, and cynical nature, she sees Bruce as a remakable man and "would one day be the one" (and by "the one", she means the one that will be her lover.

elgato
05-20-2008, 05:30 PM
A LIGHTER SIDE TO THE FELINE FATALE

How about we give Catwoman a more heroic role than she has in the comics?

Just as Nolan made Two-Face a "murderous vigilante", Catwoman would be a Robin-Hood-esque vigilante. She would be a cat bugalar who would steal to help the downtrodden and destitute of Gotham (stealling ill-gotten valuables,especially jewelry, and anonymously donate the procceds to charity).Catwoman would be far less serious than Batman (having a cold, humorous nature) and sometimes finds her battles with Batman, Two-Face and Riddler as amusing and would mess with their heads. This would make Selina Kyle the "Fire" to Bruce Wayne's "Ice" in both their romance and crime-fighting. Selina would be an example of what the Batman would be like if he were a bit more...loose.

Catwoman's robberies would come into conflict with Batman arriving to the "East End" to apprehend her for her crimes,just as she was pulling off a heist that involves some "cats-eye" crystal that is sold on the black market. She would have great fighting skills, though it would be second only to the Dark Knight. After, helping Bruce in taking down Two-Face and the Riddler, he leaves the protection of the East End to Catwoman, though he doesn't agree with her methods. Selina would lament to herself that although she's irritated with Bruce's cold,serious, and cynical nature, she sees Bruce as a remakable man and "would one day be the one" (and by "the one", she means the one that will be her lover.

That's exactly what I want for Catwoman!! COOL WOORK MAN!!

regwec
05-20-2008, 06:19 PM
Yeah, all of that has been represented in the comics, and I think a movie would have to condense her character arc from villain to benign villain to anti-heroine to heroine. Good thoughts, '13.

jmc
05-20-2008, 06:19 PM
A LIGHTER SIDE TO THE FELINE FATALE

How about we give Catwoman a more heroic role than she has in the comics?

Just as Nolan made Two-Face a "murderous vigilante", Catwoman would be a Robin-Hood-esque vigilante. She would be a cat bugalar who would steal to help the downtrodden and destitute of Gotham (stealling ill-gotten valuables,especially jewelry, and anonymously donate the procceds to charity).Catwoman would be far less serious than Batman (having a cold, humorous nature) and sometimes finds her battles with Batman, Two-Face and Riddler as amusing and would mess with their heads. This would make Selina Kyle the "Fire" to Bruce Wayne's "Ice" in both their romance and crime-fighting. Selina would be an example of what the Batman would be like if he were a bit more...loose.

Catwoman's robberies would come into conflict with Batman arriving to the "East End" to apprehend her for her crimes,just as she was pulling off a heist that involves some "cats-eye" crystal that is sold on the black market. She would have great fighting skills, though it would be second only to the Dark Knight. After, helping Bruce in taking down Two-Face and the Riddler, he leaves the protection of the East End to Catwoman, though he doesn't agree with her methods. Selina would lament to herself that although she's irritated with Bruce's cold,serious, and cynical nature, she sees Bruce as a remakable man and "would one day be the one" (and by "the one", she means the one that will be her lover.

Not sure of the whole 'Robin Hood' angle, the thing I like about Selina is she walks the same line as Bruce except on the opposite side, making her a charity worker crosses her over to the same side of the line as Batman, it suddenly makes her a good guy, where as Catwoman has always been ambiguous, her allegiance never fully defined, her motives always questionable, basically she's does what she does to look after herself. I agree she should be a good fighter, a real street fighter, learned from a tough childhood. I think one angle for her in film 3 would be if she's merely caught between a Batman-Two Face war, and doing what she needs to do to survive, whether it's allying with Bruce, Dent or both throughout the film.

flickchick85
05-20-2008, 11:19 PM
I actually like the concept. I don't think it puts her on the same side of Batman, simply because they'd still be on opposite sides of the law. He's a vigilante, but he works with the approval of Gordon and the Police, whereas she would constantly be committing robberies against very rich and powerful people. That would still make her a criminal, and it would still technically be Batman's job to capture her. That's the one thing I would change- Batman letting her continue. Though I can see him eventually letting her go as long as she agrees to stop the robberies and focus on simply being a crime fighter in her turf. But it ultimately wouldn't work out since she enjoys every aspect of her double life, including the thrill of stealing from the rich, so temptation would eventually get the better of her, and she and Batman would forever continue their little dance along the ethical line. And she'd be in and out of prison, of course, thanks to him, but he'd always want to help her walk the straight-and-narrow once she was out.

I like it. Not only does it make Selina even more of an equal to Bruce, but it also differentiates her from the on-screen incarnations we've seen of the character before, whether they be the conflicted villain (Pfeiffer) or hero (Berry). She'd be an anti-hero version of Catwoman, a fresh angle for audiences who think they know the character.

az824
05-21-2008, 06:23 PM
no, one thing that makes their relationship so interesting and special is the fact that he lets her escape. to change that it would really sort of damage their relationship and it wouldnt be the same

Crook
05-21-2008, 07:44 PM
There are a couple instances in the animated series that he does turn her over. I don't think it ruined the dynamic at all in those cases.

jmc
05-21-2008, 08:16 PM
I actually wouldn't mind see on film Bats turning her over to the cops, only to help her escape if he needs her help toward the end of the film.

FaT_tONle
05-21-2008, 08:59 PM
Someone who is following everything TDK... is Selina in it or not? Tell me we are not getting another love triangle with Rachel in the forefront and no other female interests (supermodels not included). Get Selina in there for the setup for BB3 Nolan!!!

David Rice
05-21-2008, 09:35 PM
A LIGHTER SIDE TO THE FELINE FATALE


How about we give Catwoman a more heroic role than she has in the comics?

Just as Nolan made Two-Face a "murderous vigilante", Catwoman would be a Robin-Hood-esque vigilante. She would be a cat bugalar who would steal to help the downtrodden and destitute of Gotham (stealling ill-gotten valuables,especially jewelry, and anonymously donate the procceds to charity).Catwoman would be far less serious than Batman (having a cold, humorous nature) and sometimes finds her battles with Batman, Two-Face and Riddler as amusing and would mess with their heads. This would make Selina Kyle the "Fire" to Bruce Wayne's "Ice" in both their romance and crime-fighting. Selina would be an example of what the Batman would be like if he were a bit more...loose.

Catwoman's robberies would come into conflict with Batman arriving to the "East End" to apprehend her for her crimes,just as she was pulling off a heist that involves some "cats-eye" crystal that is sold on the black market. She would have great fighting skills, though it would be second only to the Dark Knight. After, helping Bruce in taking down Two-Face and the Riddler, he leaves the protection of the East End to Catwoman, though he doesn't agree with her methods. Selina would lament to herself that although she's irritated with Bruce's cold,serious, and cynical nature, she sees Bruce as a remakable man and "would one day be the one" (and by "the one", she means the one that will be her lover.

Nice! Good ideas!

Someone who is following everything TDK... is Selina in it or not? Tell me we are not getting another love triangle with Rachel in the forefront and no other female interests (supermodels not included). Get Selina in there for the setup for BB3 Nolan!!!

There are only rumors at this point.

flickchick85
05-21-2008, 10:15 PM
There are a couple instances in the animated series that he does turn her over. I don't think it ruined the dynamic at all in those cases.
And that's where I'm coming from, since my only education on Batman stories has been the Animated Series.

Bim
05-21-2008, 10:18 PM
I'm skipping it if Catwoman shows up and it's Jolie, seriously :csad::cmad:

batboy99
05-22-2008, 06:24 AM
Why? shed be a great choice, she is ideal. Though i dont really want her as Selina eithe,r i wouldnt be mad if she got it

anrrd_2
05-22-2008, 09:53 AM
I'm skipping it if Catwoman shows up and it's Jolie, seriously :csad::cmad:

really? thats alittle extreme.....jolie certainly isnt my 1st choice, and yes her casting would take something away from the movie in my eyes...but my dislike for jolie doesn't outway my interest in batman

Crook
05-22-2008, 01:27 PM
If anything, Jolie being cast would give me more incentive to enter a midnight showing with vaseline and kleenex in hand. :o

regwec
05-22-2008, 01:31 PM
Her Catwoman could stalk Gotham's rooftops, stealing babies from ethnic minority families.

bethehero7404
05-22-2008, 01:53 PM
Just finished DARK VICTORY, the follow up to THE LONG HALLOWEEN and the Catwoman in DV would work great for a set up. Falcone and Maroni mob boss struggle and his children fighting for power, Catwoman is always around and there is no reason why. batman is to investigate. Nothing is revealed until the end why she was always around and stealing from them.

Those who have read these two, they need to have the third film have what BB and TDK dont have in it. These two graphic novels were the best ones I have read. They need more of the Holiday, Hangman Killer type storylines where Batman is the Investigator and the villains just seem to pop up. Scarecrow, Joker, Two-Face, Solomon Grundy, Freeze, Poison Ivy, Penguin, Mad Hatter all make appearences in these.

Sky's the limit for Batman 3.

Verdammt
05-22-2008, 02:33 PM
Here's your Catwoman.....


http://i111.photobucket.com/albums/n146/VerdammtV/tb27.jpg

batboy99
05-22-2008, 03:18 PM
who is that?

Majik1387
05-22-2008, 03:20 PM
No thanks to Thora Birch

batboy99
05-22-2008, 03:28 PM
Thats Thora?

Love her, but no thanks

Verdammt
05-22-2008, 04:08 PM
I tried.

She does look good in that picture though.

If only she could act. Although she was ok in Ghost World.

jmc
05-22-2008, 04:22 PM
Thora Birch? Haven't heard that name in years.

Keyser Soze
05-22-2008, 04:28 PM
For a long time, I've been uncertain about who I'd cast as Catwoman. But I think I've finally settled on who I think is a great choice to fill the role of Selina Kyle:

http://img232.imageshack.us/img232/3622/gage06hv8.jpg

Michelle Monaghan.

I think she's a very talented actress, who I've been a fan of since "Kiss Kiss, Bang Bang". She has a very human, relatable charisma you don't see in a lot of actresses these days, while still maintaining an old-style sex appeal. And both are a good match for Selina. Plus, at 32, I think she's the perfect age for the part.

MiniBond
05-22-2008, 04:38 PM
For a long time, I've been uncertain about who I'd cast as Catwoman. But I think I've finally settled on who I think is a great choice to fill the role of Selina Kyle:

http://img232.imageshack.us/img232/3622/gage06hv8.jpg

Michelle Monaghan.

I think she's a very talented actress, who I've been a fan of since "Kiss Kiss, Bang Bang". She has a very human, relatable charisma you don't see in a lot of actresses these days, while still maintaining an old-style sex appeal. And both are a good match for Selina. Plus, at 32, I think she's the perfect age for the part.


Uh uh......yeah I like her too !:woot::woot::woot:

sasquatchs
05-22-2008, 04:54 PM
God, I can't wait for a female character from this series with a bit of an edge. Joker's the perfect antidote to Ra's excessive earnestness, and Catwoman should erase the memories of Rachel's tedious chastity

I love the idea of Monaghan, she was so sweet yet world weary and in control in KKBB

batboy99
05-22-2008, 05:10 PM
I tried.

She does look good in that picture though.

If only she could act. Although she was ok in Ghost World.she can act. shes just not right for the role, but she usually plays the smartass typed role

regwec
05-22-2008, 06:57 PM
http://img232.imageshack.us/img232/3622/gage06hv8.jpg

Michelle Monaghan.

Well, my (rather discerning) girlfriend just saw the screen, and acknowledged that she "would do her".

So, Michelle FTW!

jmc
05-22-2008, 07:11 PM
^ I never believe chicks who say that. :woot:

regwec
05-22-2008, 07:32 PM
Yeah, but I know her!

Bim
05-22-2008, 10:14 PM
Her Catwoman could stalk Gotham's rooftops, stealing babies from ethnic minority families.
:hehe:

I know it sounds extreme that i wouldnt see it if Jolie is Catwoman, but i just think her acting is way overrated, and i'd hate to have to sit thru a batman movie with her in it :csad:

Nepenthes
05-23-2008, 05:03 AM
For a long time, I've been uncertain about who I'd cast as Catwoman. But I think I've finally settled on who I think is a great choice to fill the role of Selina Kyle:

http://img232.imageshack.us/img232/3622/gage06hv8.jpg

Michelle Monaghan.

I think she's a very talented actress, who I've been a fan of since "Kiss Kiss, Bang Bang". She has a very human, relatable charisma you don't see in a lot of actresses these days, while still maintaining an old-style sex appeal. And both are a good match for Selina. Plus, at 32, I think she's the perfect age for the part.

wow, not bad at all.

the only immediate concern i'd have is that she doesn't have the zing that the right kind of star appeal can bring to a role. Catwoman is iconic. At the risk if being misunderstood I do think it's better if the actor has some level of status of her own. The effect is evident in Nicholson as joker, Ledger, Liam Neeson, Michelle Pfieifer, Devito, even Keaton and Bale. In all these actors there's just something that matches them to the character, whether it be similairites or contrasts or just curiosity. Thing is, this depends on the audience actually being familiar with the actor before hand.

Laderlappen
05-23-2008, 05:55 AM
I tried.

She does look good in that picture though.

If only she could act. Although she was ok in Ghost World.So you just suggested somebody you dont think can act?

secretsquirrely
05-23-2008, 07:05 AM
Jolie is the worst possible choice for Catwoman in my opinion, especially considering the route Nolan has gone for casting thus far. She is TOO A-list. Not a single actor in either BB or TDK are the poster children of yesterday and tomorrow (ie, Tom Cruise, Brad Pitt and co.). Also, although she can be sexy at the bets of times, I think for one she is too old for the role by now, and for another she's just not THAT good of an actress. I'd personally take someone known but more fresh like Keira Knightley (if they can work on her god awful American accent) or Scarlett Johansson (hair dyed of course). For me Mia Kirshner would be an amazing choice as well. In fact I see nothing similar between Jolie and Catwoman's appearance besides being curvy and having long brown hair. Don't get me wrong, I hit puberty for a second time when I saw Beowulf in cinemas, but I would hate to see her in a Nolan-Batman movie.

Verdammt
05-23-2008, 07:52 AM
So you just suggested somebody you dont think can act?

When I typed that, images of Dungeons & Dragons was flowing through my head. She was good in Ghost World and The Hole, not to mention American Beauty.

Keyser Soze
05-23-2008, 09:38 AM
wow, not bad at all.

the only immediate concern i'd have is that she doesn't have the zing that the right kind of star appeal can bring to a role. Catwoman is iconic. At the risk if being misunderstood I do think it's better if the actor has some level of status of her own. The effect is evident in Nicholson as joker, Ledger, Liam Neeson, Michelle Pfieifer, Devito, even Keaton and Bale. In all these actors there's just something that matches them to the character, whether it be similairites or contrasts or just curiosity. Thing is, this depends on the audience actually being familiar with the actor before hand.

I can see what you're saying. But I don't think Michelle Monaghan is exactly a complete unknown. I kinda think she's the casting choice Nolan has generally gone for in this franchise, in that she's actually a respected actress - who's gained critical praise for her performances in films like "Kiss Kiss, Bang Bang" and "Gone Baby Gone" - but she's not a big headline star. Yet.

She's been the love interest in a few big movies, such as "Mission Impossible III", and is the female lead in that upcoming Spielberg project "Eagle Eye", with Shia Lebouf. But she's not quite had that one role to propel her into A-list status, despite having all the tools to fill that role. In a way I think she's kinda like a female Aaron Eckhart, in this regard. Aaron Eckhart was like "Oh, that guy, I've seen in him in stuff!" without really being a big name. And I think Michelle Monaghan has something of an "Oh, that girl..." quality about her. Hell, you could even argue that despite the critical acclaim he received for "Brokeback Mountain", it would have been his role as The Joker that would have cemented his A-list headliner status. I think playing Catwoman could be the role to do that. And I think it's a smarter choice than bringing in a more obvious candidate like Angelina Jolie, who's already a big star.

Crook
05-23-2008, 10:34 AM
I'd personally take someone known but more fresh like Keira Knightley (if they can work on her god awful American accent) or Scarlett Johansson (hair dyed of course). For me Mia Kirshner would be an amazing choice as well.
Those are some subpar choices. :o

Keira's too frail, young, and can't pull of a decent accent. Scarlett's just too young. And Mia has a very limited acting range.

In fact I see nothing similar between Jolie and Catwoman's appearance besides being curvy and having long brown hair.

http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v132/Dex4788/joliecatwoman.jpg

I can see what you're saying. But I don't think Michelle Monaghan is exactly a complete unknown. I kinda think she's the casting choice Nolan has generally gone for in this franchise, in that she's actually a respected actress - who's gained critical praise for her performances in films like "Kiss Kiss, Bang Bang" and "Gone Baby Gone" - but she's not a big headline star. Yet.
Incidentally, those are the only 2 movies I haven't seen her in. Is she really good in them? She never really struck me as a girl with a good acting range, but that's probably because I've seen him in limiting roles. Admittedly, she has a very good look for the role.

Laderlappen
05-23-2008, 03:15 PM
Say what you want about Jolie, but too old is anything she is not. Keira and Scarlett however happens to be far too young.

Ive seen Gone Baby Gone. Shes good in it but shes overshined by the rest of the cast. Then again her role isnt very interesting.

project13
05-23-2008, 05:27 PM
A LIGHTER SIDE TO THE FELINE FATALE




How about we give Catwoman a more heroic role than she has in the comics?

Just as Nolan made Two-Face a "murderous vigilante", Catwoman would be a Robin-Hood-esque vigilante. She would be a cat bugalar who would steal to help the downtrodden and destitute of Gotham (stealling ill-gotten valuables,especially jewelry, and anonymously donate the procceds to charity).Catwoman would be far less serious than Batman (having a cold, humorous nature) and sometimes finds her battles with Batman, Two-Face and Riddler as amusing and would mess with their heads. This would make Selina Kyle the "Fire" to Bruce Wayne's "Ice" in both their romance and crime-fighting. Selina would be an example of what the Batman would be like if he were a bit more...loose.

Catwoman's robberies would come into conflict with Batman arriving to the "East End" to apprehend her for her crimes,just as she was pulling off a heist that involves some "cats-eye" crystal that is sold on the black market. She would have great fighting skills, though it would be second only to the Dark Knight. After, helping Bruce in taking down Two-Face and the Riddler, he leaves the protection of the East End to Catwoman, though he doesn't agree with her methods. Selina would lament to herself that although she's irritated with Bruce's cold,serious, and cynical nature, she sees Bruce as a remakable man and "would one day be the one" (and by "the one", she means the one that will be her lover).

The items that Selina stole would come from the black market. So, technically, she would steal from the greedy and the corrupt.

az824
05-23-2008, 05:34 PM
the good things is jolie's gained a lot of weight being pregnant! so she's almost back to the way she was before except for the huge stomach

Ibn
05-23-2008, 10:05 PM
God, I can't wait for a female character from this series with a bit of an edge. Joker's the perfect antidote to Ra's excessive earnestness, and Catwoman should erase the memories of Rachel's tedious chastity

I love the idea of Monaghan, she was so sweet yet world weary and in control in KKBB


:hehe:

flickchick85
05-23-2008, 11:53 PM
Oooh, Michelle Monaghan's a good choice. I hadn't thought of her, but she seems to have pretty good range based on the few movies I've seen her in, and while her character in Kiss Kiss, Bang Bang wasn't really like Catwoman, it does convince me that she could play Catwoman, because that character was very self-assured, playful, and independent-minded. She played that confidence well, so I have no doubt she could carry those traits over to Selina. Nice suggestion, Keyer Soze. :up: :up:

MiniBond
05-24-2008, 06:55 AM
someone just suggested her to me....

http://www.maxitmag.com/images/stories/eric/Heigl/heigl.jpg

http://www.agencenews.com/uploads/commonfiles/Julierheaume/HeiglInstylecover2.jpg


Katherine Heigl !!!!:cwink::cwink::cwink:

batboy99
05-24-2008, 11:06 AM
I love Heigl, shes beautiful, but she isnt selina or catwoman to me. Id prefer her as someonel ike Ms. Marvel

MercuryEnigma
05-24-2008, 11:24 AM
Jolie is the worst possible choice for Catwoman in my opinion, especially considering the route Nolan has gone for casting thus far. She is TOO A-list. Not a single actor in either BB or TDK are the poster children of yesterday and tomorrow (ie, Tom Cruise, Brad Pitt and co.). Also, although she can be sexy at the bets of times, I think for one she is too old for the role by now, and for another she's just not THAT good of an actress. I'd personally take someone known but more fresh like Keira Knightley (if they can work on her god awful American accent) or Scarlett Johansson (hair dyed of course). For me Mia Kirshner would be an amazing choice as well. In fact I see nothing similar between Jolie and Catwoman's appearance besides being curvy and having long brown hair. Don't get me wrong, I hit puberty for a second time when I saw Beowulf in cinemas, but I would hate to see her in a Nolan-Batman movie.

I agree full-heartedly with you, Secret. The way Nolan is doing things is working out beautifully. And you need a lesser-known actress because he'll probably put Catwoman in very little and use her for the next movie (if there is one) and while I think Angelina is great for the role personally, I'd like to see another girl have a chance, so we can kind of retain an element of surprise and unfamiliarity, which is part of catwoman's M.O.: unpredictability. However, even though seeing a catwoman performance from Knightley, Johansson and Kirshner would be very left-field, I still think they are too "frail."

Laderlappen
05-24-2008, 12:01 PM
Greys Anatomy and Knocked Up isnt exactly what I would refer to as great acting. Good acting or ok maybe, but its not great.

David Rice
05-24-2008, 02:16 PM
someone just suggested her to me....

http://www.maxitmag.com/images/stories/eric/Heigl/heigl.jpg

http://www.agencenews.com/uploads/commonfiles/Julierheaume/HeiglInstylecover2.jpg


Katherine Heigl !!!!:cwink::cwink::cwink:

Nice! Give her some dark hair and we're ready to go!

batboy99
05-24-2008, 03:12 PM
na,h shes no selina, as i said, i love her ,but shes not selina.

oh and david, why isnt your site working?

flickchick85
05-24-2008, 04:30 PM
I agree. I really don't think Heigl has the natural charm OR acting chops to pull off Selina.

batboy99
05-24-2008, 04:38 PM
Shes a good actress from what ive seen(though they arent the hardest roles to pull off). Id rather see her as someone like Ms.Marvel though

jmc
05-24-2008, 05:14 PM
someone just suggested her to me....

http://www.maxitmag.com/images/stories/eric/Heigl/heigl.jpg

http://www.agencenews.com/uploads/commonfiles/Julierheaume/HeiglInstylecover2.jpg


Katherine Heigl !!!!:cwink::cwink::cwink:

Ah, the wonders of Photoshop.

David Rice
05-24-2008, 05:54 PM
na,h shes no selina, as i said, i love her ,but shes not selina.

oh and david, why isnt your site working?

I like her.

Well, I've had to change hosting servers and I just got the first few pages working today. The forum is still not all fixed

batboy99
05-24-2008, 06:33 PM
i like her too, doesnt mean shes right for Selina, she usually only does things like romantic comedies, nothing that really proves her acting abilities, let alone proving she can pull off a role like this

Keyser Soze
05-24-2008, 07:13 PM
Selina's a toughie to cast, because while the temptation is to just look at the hottest Hollywood starlet you can find, that's not really Selina. I'm not saying don't cast an attractive actress - of course you should - but it should be a very old-style beauty. Selina Kyle should look like she's just stepped out a film noir from the 1940s. And not all of today's actresses - certainly not a good few of the names on the poll - have that.

batboy99
05-24-2008, 07:41 PM
i know what you mean keyser. My choices are still eliza,marion and keri,but i know they dont have the ''ideal'' look for the character. Whoever is cast, i know there will be people who like her and people who dont.

Drizzle
05-24-2008, 09:08 PM
Empire magazine suggested their own "dream cast" for the third film. They suggested Emily Blunt for Selina Kyle/Catwoman. I wholeheartedly agree with them.

http://i26.tinypic.com/2zeasf5.jpg

batboy99
05-24-2008, 09:10 PM
i wouldnt mind her, but shes ivy to me. When i look at her, i see ivy, she looks like someone with that lust and charm that ivy should have imo, and the red hair certainly helps

Drizzle
05-24-2008, 09:13 PM
i wouldnt mind her, but shes ivy to me. When i look at her, i see ivy, she looks like someone with that lust and charm that ivy should have imo, and the red hair certainly helps
I can sort of see it, but I doubt we'll ever see Ivy in a live-action Batman movie again. At least not one that Chris Nolan's directing.

But in regards to Catwoman herself, I want to actually see her as a cat burglar and not just jumping around performing random acts of vandalism like in "Batman Returns".

batboy99
05-24-2008, 09:18 PM
well, thats true, but who knows if we will see catwoman either. Granted, catwoman is probably more likely to show up, but both characters have an equal chance at this point.

I can see see emily more as ivy that catwoman, both in regards to look and acting

Laderlappen
05-25-2008, 04:59 AM
I think Emily Blunt is a great actress. But I think she too young looking.

MiniBond
05-25-2008, 06:29 AM
Blunt was pretty noticeable in Charlie Wilson's war, even if it was a small part !


She had that mysterious sexy vibe while wearing Tom Hank's shirt half naked!:woot::woot::woot:

jmc
05-25-2008, 08:48 AM
Empire magazine suggested their own "dream cast" for the third film. They suggested Emily Blunt for Selina Kyle/Catwoman. I wholeheartedly agree with them.

http://i26.tinypic.com/2zeasf5.jpg

She looks like Gabrielle Anwar in that image.

elgato
05-25-2008, 10:07 PM
Emily Blunt would be a very good casting choice for Nolan's franchise, tho I would see her more as Poison Ivy

flickchick85
05-25-2008, 11:50 PM
Selina's a toughie to cast, because while the temptation is to just look at the hottest Hollywood starlet you can find, that's not really Selina. I'm not saying don't cast an attractive actress - of course you should - but it should be a very old-style beauty. Selina Kyle should look like she's just stepped out a film noir from the 1940s. And not all of today's actresses - certainly not a good few of the names on the poll - have that.
That's exactly what I was trying to say a few pages back, Keyser. :up: Another reason I can't see Heigl in the part. I can see people like Winslet, Sophia Myles, Michelle Monaghan, Marion Cotillard, and Charlize Theron playing the old-Hollywood type, but definitely not Heigl. Emily Blunt's not a bad suggestion, though.

MiniBond
05-26-2008, 05:05 PM
I likle her too........

http://img171.imageshack.us/img171/3945/024ydvu4.jpg

http://img165.imageshack.us/img165/3903/0805170105313317687ca6.jpg

batboy99
05-26-2008, 05:11 PM
ugh, god no. Granted Portman is an awesome actress, but she aint no selina either

MiniBond
05-26-2008, 05:17 PM
I agree to disagree !:woot:

batboy99
05-26-2008, 05:34 PM
What do see in Natalie Portman as Selina Kyle? SHes a beautiful girl, but she doesnt have selina kyles type of ''beautiful.'' And she looks too young, theres nothing about her that I see that says ''Selina Kyle/ Catwoman.''
This isnt Selina Kyle
http://www.imdb.com/media/rm3014432512/nm0000204
She looks young for her age still, especially compared to someone like Christian Bale

regwec
05-27-2008, 05:06 AM
Agreed- Natalie Portman's appeal rests quite heavily on her girlish beauty, Selina should look a bit more mature and wordly, in my opinion.

Dark Knight
05-27-2008, 04:34 PM
I find your some your guys' lack of faith regarding Portman as Selina disturbing.

(Proceeds with Vader choke method using his fingertips)

Portman would do a heckuva job as Selina and Catwoman IMO.

She is a very good actress. All she would have to do is tone up a bit.

Majik1387
05-27-2008, 04:40 PM
And age a bit...

Spider-Fan83
05-27-2008, 04:49 PM
I likle her too........

http://img171.imageshack.us/img171/3945/024ydvu4.jpg

http://img165.imageshack.us/img165/3903/0805170105313317687ca6.jpg

not bad

oh wait, is this the casting thread for catwoman or robin

ummm, nevermind

lol

az824
05-27-2008, 06:20 PM
actually she looks a lot like adam hughes' interpretation of catwoman (thats not saying i want her for the role though)

jmc
05-27-2008, 06:23 PM
I agree that Nat looks to young, sadly, she's just one of those actresses who gonna look 21 for the next 15 years.

Laderlappen
05-27-2008, 07:27 PM
I do think Natalie's look would be acceptable as a version of Catwoman, but I do think she looks a bit young and there are other actresses I prefer more. I still think she's a good actress.

Nepenthes
05-27-2008, 08:19 PM
Actors have to evole sometime or another. Often it takes a great role to do it. If she pulled it off, the mature and worldy woman that we're talking about, it would certainly be a refreshing performance no, a breakthough role of another sort. A director would have to look at her and decide if she's got it hidden away, growing, ready to unveal. She very well might.

Leenie
05-27-2008, 08:26 PM
I wouldn't mind seeing Portman as Catwoman at all, actually. Maybe I'm biased, because I think that Natalie Portman is quite awesome.

My other choice would be Kate Beckinsale, though I'd much rather see her as Wonder Woman ... But that's a whole other topic.

batboy99
05-27-2008, 08:30 PM
Actors have to evole sometime or another. Often it takes a great role to do it. If she pulled it off, the mature and worldy woman that we're talking about, it would certainly be a refreshing performance no, a breakthough role of another sort. A director would have to look at her and decide if she's got it hidden away, growing, ready to unveal. She very well might.
well its not that she cant pull it off, itsj ust she looks too young
I agree that Nat looks to young, sadly, she's just one of those actresses who gonna look 21 for the next 15 years.agreed, shes like chrisina ricci

David Rice
05-27-2008, 10:24 PM
I find your some your guys' lack of faith regarding Portman as Selina disturbing.

(Proceeds with Vader choke method using his fingertips)

Portman would do a heckuva job as Selina and Catwoman IMO.

She is a very good actress. All she would have to do is tone up a bit.

You should get used to it man, there is a BIG lack of faith with SOME of the guys around here. :cwink:

elgato
05-29-2008, 06:47 PM
This is my Catwoman:

http://i239.photobucket.com/albums/ff133/gatochico/005.jpg

http://i239.photobucket.com/albums/ff133/gatochico/marion_cotillard.jpg

http://i239.photobucket.com/albums/ff133/gatochico/002.jpg

Crook
05-29-2008, 07:13 PM
*heartmelt*

batboy99
05-29-2008, 07:47 PM
what a beauty, i was gonna use that first pic for a manip...

MaJiN
05-29-2008, 08:55 PM
I likle her too........

http://img171.imageshack.us/img171/3945/024ydvu4.jpg

http://img165.imageshack.us/img165/3903/0805170105313317687ca6.jpg
:wow::wow::wow:
My only concern is she might be a bit short. And she needs to bulk up some. Other than that, she fits.

jmc
05-29-2008, 11:57 PM
This is my Catwoman:

http://i239.photobucket.com/albums/ff133/gatochico/005.jpg

http://i239.photobucket.com/albums/ff133/gatochico/marion_cotillard.jpg

http://i239.photobucket.com/albums/ff133/gatochico/002.jpg

Seriously, if I had the power, I would give this girl a blank cheque to play Catwoman. Love the images, I could watch this girl act all day.

Killing Joke926
05-30-2008, 01:11 AM
How do you guys feel about Carrie-Anne Moss or Rachel Weisz for CatWoman? :word: :brucebat:

http://stalker.hautetfort.com/images/medium_carrie_anne_moss_004.jpg

http://img265.imageshack.us/img265/6136/rachelweiszbv0.jpg

Laderlappen
05-30-2008, 06:18 AM
This is my Catwoman:

http://i239.photobucket.com/albums/ff133/gatochico/005.jpg

http://i239.photobucket.com/albums/ff133/gatochico/marion_cotillard.jpg

http://i239.photobucket.com/albums/ff133/gatochico/002.jpgI didnt really meant to post a comment. I just think these pics deserves another look. :cwink:


My only concern is she might be a bit short. And she needs to bulk up some. Other than that, she fits.I personally have no problem if Selina is a little short.


How do you guys feel about Carrie-Anne Moss or Rachel Weisz for CatWoman?
Rachel would be alright. Carrie-Anne not so much.

Two-Face
05-30-2008, 06:23 AM
Carrie-Anne Moss as Selina? No way.


As to Rachel as Selina hell yes! call Nolan!

batboy99
05-30-2008, 06:24 AM
Rachel, yes
Carrie Ann, no ,too old in age and in look

elgato
05-30-2008, 09:49 AM
I am starting to like Rachel as Catwoman, but she's my Talia Al Ghul, and I already have my purrfect feline, god how I like french girls!

MiniBond
05-31-2008, 02:04 PM
god how I like french girls!


Reaaaaaaaaaaaaally ??????????:woot::woot::woot:











http://img229.imageshack.us/img229/2929/10zu6.jpg
http://img144.imageshack.us/img144/4396/normal9lw5.jpg

batboy99
05-31-2008, 03:38 PM
http://i46.photobucket.com/albums/f111/batboy99/petersom_05.jpg
http://i46.photobucket.com/albums/f111/batboy99/elizanew.jpg
http://i46.photobucket.com/albums/f111/batboy99/session14_02.jpg
http://i46.photobucket.com/albums/f111/batboy99/session14_03.jpg

Two-Face
06-01-2008, 11:55 AM
Reaaaaaaaaaaaaally ??????????:woot::woot::woot:











http://img229.imageshack.us/img229/2929/10zu6.jpg
http://img144.imageshack.us/img144/4396/normal9lw5.jpg

Me too I like fit French women:wow:

Laderlappen
06-01-2008, 02:39 PM
Love the Marion love around here.

regwec
06-01-2008, 02:52 PM
Loving the love sounds like a recipe for excellent karma.

flickchick85
06-01-2008, 05:50 PM
An interesting thing they could do if Marion got the role would be to have her use her regular French accent as Selina, and use an American one as Catwoman. That would be the only way I could buy Bruce not realizing who she is. As I've said before, I doubt she could keep a solid American accent throughout the whole movie, but I bet she could do it for just a few lines as Catwoman.

regwec
06-01-2008, 05:57 PM
That actually recalls the very early Batman radio plays, in which Bruce Wayne used a British accent as Batman. I would really enjoy hearing Christian Bale do that.

union_jak
06-01-2008, 05:57 PM
I've never heard a Frenchwoman manage to speak in any other accent than French. Eva Green tries to speak with an English one in Casino Royale and does her best, but it's still pretty French.

Laderlappen
06-01-2008, 06:16 PM
Well, Eva Green's acting skills are limited.

elgato
06-01-2008, 06:21 PM
http://img229.imageshack.us/img229/2929/10zu6.jpg
http://img144.imageshack.us/img144/4396/normal9lw5.jpg

:heart::heart::heart::heart::heart:

regwec
06-01-2008, 06:22 PM
Her "acting skills" are fine, she just isn't very good at accents, which is a speciality peculiar to a few.

jmc
06-01-2008, 07:07 PM
An interesting thing they could do if Marion got the role would be to have her use her regular French accent as Selina, and use an American one as Catwoman. That would be the only way I could buy Bruce not realizing who she is. As I've said before, I doubt she could keep a solid American accent throughout the whole movie, but I bet she could do it for just a few lines as Catwoman.

That could possibly work, sort of in the same way Bruce puts on the gravely voice when he's Batman. And whether she can keep the accent all the way through is not a huge issue, ADR sessions can help fix any dramas.

batboy99
06-01-2008, 07:54 PM
I actually wouldnt min d that idea, but probably only for Marion, i cant see anyone else being able to pull of a french accent(my choices anyway)

Captain_BluTac
06-02-2008, 09:41 PM
If they introduce Catwoman, I think the actress should be Alyssa Milano, no question.
Her
http://images.askmen.com/galleries/actress/alyssa-milano/pictures/alyssa-milano-picture-2.jpg
How she should look
http://www.newsarama.com/dcnew/Jan06/CatwomanCv51.jpg

David Rice
06-02-2008, 09:42 PM
If they introduce Catwoman, I think the actress should be Alyssa Milano, no question.
Her
http://images.askmen.com/galleries/actress/alyssa-milano/pictures/alyssa-milano-picture-2.jpg
How she should look
http://www.newsarama.com/dcnew/Jan06/CatwomanCv51.jpg

I like her, but I should warn you man. She won't be very popular around this thread. :csad:

Captain_BluTac
06-02-2008, 09:45 PM
I like her, but I should warn you man. She won't be very popular around this thread. :csad:

Why, cus of Charmed?

David Rice
06-03-2008, 12:44 AM
Why, cus of Charmed?

That and I can hear "them" now...

"She can't act!"

"She's not the same caliber of actor as the rest of the cast!"

I'm sure I'm going to get some heat over this, but it seems anytime someone who is well known gets suggested out comes all the dogs to rip her apart. Gets kinda old. :yay:

batboy99
06-03-2008, 06:24 AM
well,she really isnt and i do like her actually, just not for the role

Darkfly
06-03-2008, 06:44 AM
Alyssa Milano is a crap actress, did anybody see her in Embrace of the Vampire, complete rubbish, **** actress she'll NEVAH! be Catwoman, j/k :D

She isn't that bad but she ain't great & I can't picture her as Catwoman/Selina.

Laderlappen
06-03-2008, 06:45 AM
She really is a mediocre actress. The only thing she has is good looks.

jmc
06-03-2008, 08:03 AM
Milano is average at best.

NinjaTurtleFan
06-03-2008, 09:40 AM
She really is a mediocre actress. The only thing she has is good looks.

Eliza Dushku is the same really though I know that'll piss batboy off for me saying that. Keri Russell isn't much either.

Darkfly
06-03-2008, 09:48 AM
Eliza Dushku is the same really though I know that'll piss batboy off for me saying that. Keri Russell isn't much either.

I have to agree though it pains me to say it, Eliza isn't much of an actress not saying she isn't bad just no great, but Keri Russel is a bit above Eliza & Alyssa.

Laderlappen
06-03-2008, 11:58 AM
Eliza Dushku is the same really though I know that'll piss batboy off for me saying that. Keri Russell isn't much either.Now THAT is ridiculous. Did you never see Waitress? Most people(not just me) find her in that movie to be one of the greatest performance by an actress of last year. And last year was a really great year.

Darkfly
06-03-2008, 12:05 PM
She was gorram awesome in Waitress (one of my favourite films) as was Nathan Fillion's performance :D

anrrd_2
06-03-2008, 12:15 PM
keri russel..."not much better than dushka"....my mind has officially exploded.

but as much as i love russel, she is 2nd on my list to charlize theron

Laderlappen
06-03-2008, 01:51 PM
She was gorram awesome in Waitress (one of my favourite films) as was Nathan Fillion's performance :DI think all 6 members were great in it. Other than Keri, I think Adrienne Shelly(RIP +-) was just wonderful and totally underrated.

Darkfly
06-03-2008, 01:56 PM
I think all 6 members were great in it. Other than Keri, I think Adrienne Shelly(RIP +-) was just wonderful and totally underrated.

yeah they were all great, & Shelly was indeed underrated, have to go watch it again tonight now :)