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Timstuff
04-30-2005, 06:40 PM
If you wanna know my preference, read my sig. ;)
Two-Face
04-30-2005, 06:44 PM
I'm not saying Charlize Theron can't do Selina Kyle I think she can do it if she's been cast as Selina, I would not be disspointed but I still prefer Angelina Jolie to the role.
Maxwell Smart
04-30-2005, 07:19 PM
If you want to know my preference, read my sig..
Captain_Obvious
04-30-2005, 10:06 PM
FOR THE LAST ****ING TIME, **** THAT PIECE OF **** MOVIE AND THE HORSE IT RODE IN ON. I WILL NOT HAVE IT RUIN MY SECOND FAVORITE CHARACTER BESIDES THE BATMAN HIMSELF'S CHANCE AT REPRESENTATION ON THE BIG SCREEN IN THIS GREAT NEW FRANCHISE.
**** CINO **** CINO **** CINO. I HAVE NEVER SEEN THIS FILM, AND I REFUSE TO EVER SEE IT. I DO MY BEST TO IGNORE IT'S EXISTANCE.
There. *breathes out heavily* I'm done. http://www.superherohype.com/forums/images/smilies/tongue.gif
that was pretty pointless...I want my 10 seconds back :(
thought you'd have a valid argument, but I was mistaken :mad:
ps your choice for Portman...eh..*blah* :up:
CConn
04-30-2005, 11:00 PM
Actually, Portman would be a great Catwoman...if she were a woman. Sadly, she's still in the little girl phase. :o
Actually, Portman would be a great Catwoman...if she were a woman. Sadly, she's still in the little girl phase. :o
Ouch. C'mon now, don'cha think that's a bit harsh? Sticks have feelings too.
http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v132/Dex4788/Smilies/Innocent/001.gif
Spidey-Bat
04-30-2005, 11:34 PM
I doubt Portman would want to play a prostitue-turned socialite/theif.
DOO BEE
05-01-2005, 02:56 AM
she played a prostitue in closer, right or well stripper whats the difference, just borderline i guess
Two-Face
05-01-2005, 07:16 AM
I doubt Portman would want to play a prostitue-turned socialite/theif.
Nolan does not have to go with Year One storyline with Selina, Nolan could go with TAS version with Selina storyline or something different.
Voyeur
05-01-2005, 09:00 AM
But I think Nolan will find the Year One storyline more interesting. I love Portman...she's drop dead gorgeous...but she seems too, I don't know...delicate (for lack of a better word) for Selina.
Two-Face
05-01-2005, 09:30 AM
Batman Begins movie is bit from TAS mixed with Year One so why can't he change "prostitue" storyline and use TAS - "socialite/theif"?
Riven
05-01-2005, 09:44 AM
she played a prostitue in closer, right or well stripper whats the difference, just borderline i guess
Thank you for having such a subtle understanding of society.
:rolleyes:
Batman Begins movie is bit from TAS mixed with Year One
What would you say is TAS influenced in Begins?
so why can't he change "prostitue" storyline and use TAS - "socialite/theif"?
As long as they stay FAR away from the stupid wildlife environmentalist angle of stealing jewels to try and save the cougars.
Maxwell Smart
05-01-2005, 10:12 AM
Whatever you guys. Portman is hot, and she is one of the best actresses under 30 today, and she is NOT just a little girl, I think she has matured a lot. And who says Catwoman has to big or something? Michelle Pffeifer was not very big.
And who says Natalie Portman wouldn't play a prostitute or a cat burglar? Shes an actress! The fact that you wouldn't immediately picture her in such a role is more motivation for her to try it. And besides, like was mentioned, she did play a 'sexual' character in Closer already.
I think people are just trying to shoot down any viable alternatives to Jolie.
DarkKnightJRK
05-01-2005, 10:40 AM
Batman Begins movie is bit from TAS mixed with Year One so why can't he change "prostitue" storyline and use TAS - "socialite/theif"?
Maybe because the "prostitute steals to get into high society" angle's better?
I'd put Catwoman in like this: Selina Kyle is from the "wrong side of the tracks," if you can forgive the cliche'. She never knew her father (though she believes that it's possibly Carmine Falcone), and her mother died when she was young. During this time, she becomes a runaway, trapt in Gotham's East End (or the Hallows, as it's put in BB), and resorts to essentially becoming a domenatrix/prostitute. After seeing the works of the vigilantie known as Batman, she's inspired and finds a way out. She makes her costume and becomes a Robin Hood-esque theif known as Catwoman. I say Robin Hood-esque because she doesn't steal from anyplace other than rich society types. She'd meet Batman in one of these stealings and the rest, as they say, is history.
Spidey-Bat
05-01-2005, 10:55 AM
Maybe because the "prostitute steals to get into high society" angle's better?
I'd put Catwoman in like this: Selina Kyle is from the "wrong side of the tracks," if you can forgive the cliche'. She never knew her father (though she believes that it's possibly Carmine Falcone), and her mother died when she was young. During this time, she becomes a runaway, trapt in Gotham's East End (or the Hallows, as it's put in BB), and resorts to essentially becoming a domenatrix/prostitute. After seeing the works of the vigilantie known as Batman, she's inspired and finds a way out. She makes her costume and becomes a Robin Hood-esque theif known as Catwoman. I say Robin Hood-esque because she doesn't steal from anyplace other than rich society types. She'd meet Batman in one of these stealings and the rest, as they say, is history.
I like it:up:
And who says Natalie Portman wouldn't play a prostitute or a cat burglar? Shes an actress! The fact that you wouldn't immediately picture her in such a role is more motivation for her to try it. And besides, like was mentioned, she did play a 'sexual' character in Closer already.
Portman often choses roles that can be considered a role model. I don't think Catwoman would be her field of acting. Plus she's not really hot enough and IMO too young to complement Bale.
I think people are just trying to shoot down any viable alternatives to Jolie.
Not all Jolie fans are like that man. Like me and many others here before said, I can definitely see Theron, and to a lesser degree Portman in the part. I just think Jolie's the most fitting for the role above the other contenders, that's all. :up:
Captain_Obvious
05-01-2005, 11:58 AM
Whatever you guys. Portman is hot, and she is one of the best actresses under 30 today, and she is NOT just a little girl, I think she has matured a lot. And who says Catwoman has to big or something? Michelle Pffeifer was not very big.
But Michelle Pffeifer was sexy :confused:
and looked like a woman...
oddly enough.
I think people are just trying to shoot down any viable alternatives to Jolie. And for the people who don't want Jolie to begin with? :)
what assumptions have you made for us? :)
Maxwell Smart
05-01-2005, 12:01 PM
But Michelle Pffeifer was sexy :confused:
and looked like a woman...
oddly enough.
Did you see those pics I posted? Natalie Portman is a woman. And she is VERY, VERY sexy. Oh my god is she ever.
Maxwell Smart
05-01-2005, 12:03 PM
Portman often choses roles that can be considered a role model. I don't think Catwoman would be her field of acting. Plus she's not really hot enough and IMO too young to complement Bale.
I don't think Portman is really a moralist or anything. She'd take the role.
And shes very hot imo.
Captain_Obvious
05-01-2005, 12:05 PM
Did you see those pics I posted? Natalie Portman is a woman. And she is VERY, VERY sexy. Oh my god is she ever.
you posted like 3 head shots and one of her looking dazed..
....
to each his own, I guess :(
DarkKnightJRK
05-01-2005, 12:08 PM
I like it:up:
Portman often choses roles that can be considered a role model. I don't think Catwoman would be her field of acting. Plus she's not really hot enough and IMO too young to complement Bale.
Thankie-Sai. :D
I don't think Catwoman would be really considered a ROLE MODEL, but I can see regular girls rooting for her, she's essentially a scorned girl trying to get even with society.
Two-Face
05-01-2005, 12:38 PM
Maybe because the "prostitute steals to get into high society" angle's better?
I'd put Catwoman in like this: Selina Kyle is from the "wrong side of the tracks," if you can forgive the cliche'. She never knew her father (though she believes that it's possibly Carmine Falcone), and her mother died when she was young. During this time, she becomes a runaway, trapt in Gotham's East End (or the Hallows, as it's put in BB), and resorts to essentially becoming a domenatrix/prostitute. After seeing the works of the vigilantie known as Batman, she's inspired and finds a way out. She makes her costume and becomes a Robin Hood-esque theif known as Catwoman. I say Robin Hood-esque because she doesn't steal from anyplace other than rich society types. She'd meet Batman in one of these stealings and the rest, as they say, is history.
Ok it could work....:up:
ArmsHeldOut
05-01-2005, 10:46 PM
Damn! Look at all the Jolie fans!! lol
doggabyte
05-03-2005, 08:09 PM
This is another good example why people from this board should not go into the casting industry. I laugh every time I see these posts, Lets do a movie with the people that are the hottest right now.....Lets replace Bale for Brad Pitt, ammm....Morgan for Morpheus...then lets put Jolie in for cat women..yeah sounds great!!! <---Give me a break. Thank god alot of you aren't castin Directors or we would have another Batman & Robin on are hands.
Don't confuse good looks and recognizable for Good acting and And Great performance.
doggabyte
05-03-2005, 08:13 PM
Portman is too smart for any normal person, she is like Friggin witty
Hunter Rider
05-03-2005, 08:17 PM
This is another good example why people from this board should not go into the casting industry. I laugh every time I see these posts, Lets do a movie with the people that are the hottest right now.....Lets replace Bale for Brad Pitt, ammm....Morgan for Morpheus...then lets put Jolie in for cat women..yeah sounds great!!! <---Give me a break. Thank god alot of you aren't castin Directors or we would have another Batman & Robin on are hands.
Don't confuse good looks and recognizable for Good acting and And Great performance.
wrong,Im perfectly happy with this cast as everyone is,but laurence fishburne is a good actor and so is pitt,or did you miss seven,fight club and 12 monkeys ? as for Jolie her being "hot" right now has jack**** to do with picking her as catwoman,its about all the things she would bring to the role and if you'd read through this thread, myself,dorkyfresh and BK have provided many reasons and visual comparisons to prove why we belive Jolie is the best choice for Selina
Maxwell Smart
05-03-2005, 08:54 PM
Portman is too smart for any normal person, she is like Friggin witty
I don't know about that..but her performance in certain films have certainly been nuanced(imo). I'm thinking Garden State. God, I love that movie. As you can so tell from my av. http://www.superherohype.com/forums/images/smilies/biggrin.gif
Two-Face
05-04-2005, 06:15 AM
This is another good example why people from this board should not go into the casting industry. I laugh every time I see these posts, Lets do a movie with the people that are the hottest right now.....Lets replace Bale for Brad Pitt, ammm....Morgan for Morpheus...then lets put Jolie in for cat women..yeah sounds great!!! <---Give me a break. Thank god alot of you aren't castin Directors or we would have another Batman & Robin on are hands.
Don't confuse good looks and recognizable for Good acting and And Great performance.
Brad Pitt is good actor as well looking good, he's like Bale cos Bale has acting chops and looking good, watch after Begins Women will drool all over Bale just like Pitt. Jolie has acting chops as well beautiful woman just cos she's famous that does not mean she can't do acting she's got famous for her work as well has one of the been beautiful women.
aboutnici
05-04-2005, 08:56 AM
Angelina Jolie as Selina Kyle a.k.a "Catwoman"
Two-Face
05-07-2005, 12:32 PM
Angelina Jolie as Selina Kyle a.k.a "Catwoman"
Yes agree
http://us.movies1.yimg.com/movies.yahoo.com/images/hv/photo/movie_pix/twentieth_century_fox/mr____mrs__smith/angelina_jolie/smith.jpg
Kmack
05-07-2005, 12:35 PM
She'd be perfect:up:
Two-Face
05-07-2005, 12:43 PM
http://us.movies1.yimg.com/movies.yahoo.com/images/hv/photo/movie_pix/twentieth_century_fox/mr____mrs__smith/angelina_jolie/smith5.jpg
P. Cushing
05-07-2005, 06:19 PM
http://img236.echo.cx/img236/8734/jbangelinajolie051sk.jpg
Yummmmmm...
Does anyone else dread the day Jolie becomes old and gray, and we're all in our mid-50's reminiscing on how damn hot she was? http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v132/Dex4788/Smilies/Sad/012.gif
Riven
05-07-2005, 07:21 PM
Uhmmm... :o
I don't mean to be cruel or anything, but how long has it actually been since Angelina Jolie has been in a GOOD movie, giving us an EXCELLENT performance?
by my count, not since 1999...
http://www.imdb.com/name/nm0001401/
*rubs magic ball*
Mr. and Mrs. Smith
:D
Riven
05-07-2005, 07:30 PM
You hope. ;)
Obsidian
05-07-2005, 08:08 PM
Dagmara Domincyk
or
Navi Rawat (House of Sand and Fog, Numb3rs)
http://www.numb3rs.org/gallery/albums/userpics/10112/normal_aDwarf_Navi_Rawat@Numb3rs_S01E01.jpg
DorkyFresh
05-07-2005, 08:13 PM
She looks better for Talia IMO.
DorkyFresh
05-07-2005, 08:44 PM
http://www.imdb.com/name/nm0001401/bio
Click that and look at her nickname............nuff said....
Two-Face
05-08-2005, 08:08 AM
Angelina Jolie is prefect role of Selina can worlk well with Christian Bale.
HBKfan28
05-09-2005, 08:40 PM
Angelina Jolie, maybe Eliza Dushku
Spidey-Bat
05-09-2005, 09:01 PM
Does anyone else dread the day Jolie becomes old and gray, and we're all in our mid-50's reminiscing on how damn hot she was? http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v132/Dex4788/Smilies/Sad/012.gif
Hopefully she'll be like Sophia Loren and doesn't get wrinkly.
P. Cushing
05-10-2005, 03:00 AM
I like Jolie for the part. The part is unlikely to be outside of her acting range and she looks fantastic for it.
http://img154.echo.cx/img154/6493/1aj8tz.jpg
http://img13.imagevenue.com/loc49/th_f01_Angelina_Jolie_TR_Promo01.jpg (http://img13.imagevenue.com/img.php?loc=loc49&image=f01_Angelina_Jolie_TR_Promo01.jpg)
http://img6.imagevenue.com/loc36/b88_joliers06.jpg
http://img59.echo.cx/img59/9918/jolie691024x7686lc.jpg
Timstuff
05-10-2005, 11:26 PM
OK, you've obviousely posted enough pictures of Jolie by this point that anyone who doesn't agree with you isn't changing their mind at this point.
If I wanted I could easily flood this place with some über sexy Charlize Theron pics (she did a really nice photo shoot in a suana. ahh :)), but that's not going to make a better case for why she should play Catwoman, and all it shows is that I spend lots of time looking for pictures of her to ogle that I could spend doing something productive. I think Theron is a very talented actress with a beautiful face and body and has the purr-fect look I'd want for Catwoman. I think her work should speak for itself.
DorkyFresh
05-11-2005, 12:20 AM
Jolie dammit!!!
http://users.teol.net/~stevopfc/Pictures/Angelina%20Jolie/Angelina%20Jolie%20(8).jpg
P. Cushing
05-11-2005, 02:57 AM
I think Theron is a very talented actress with a beautiful face and body and has the purr-fect look I'd want for Catwoman. I think her work should speak for itself.
I like her for the part too, but there's no excuse for that pun.
Timstuff
05-11-2005, 09:04 AM
I too am sick of the pun. I was hoping that by writing it down and putting it on the internet I could get it out of my head, but I guess that doesn't work. :p
DrMylesOBoogie
05-11-2005, 09:59 AM
[QUOTE=Timstuff]OK, you've obviousely posted enough pictures of JolieQUOTE]That makes no sense to me. You can never post enough pictures of Angie.
Timstuff
05-11-2005, 11:33 AM
Well, if that's to be the attitude of this discussion...
http://charlizeonline.com/gallery/albums/addons/03-07-05/talk/talkmagazine08.jpg
Gentlemen, Selina Kyle. :)
DorkyFresh
05-11-2005, 12:11 PM
Gentlemen, Selina Kyle. :)
She DOES look like Selina Kyle in that picture...but she doesn't always look like that.
Two-Face
05-11-2005, 12:25 PM
Well, if that's to be the attitude of this discussion...
http://charlizeonline.com/gallery/albums/addons/03-07-05/talk/talkmagazine08.jpg
Gentlemen, Selina Kyle. :)
That's not best picture her, anyway Jolie is Selina
http://us.movies1.yimg.com/movies.yahoo.com/images/hv/photo/movie_pix/twentieth_century_fox/mr____mrs__smith/angelina_jolie/smith.jpg
Timstuff
05-11-2005, 12:33 PM
Well if Theron looked the way she looked in that picture in the movie, I think she'd be an excellent choice. She clearly can look like Selina Kyle, so it'd be up to the makeup and hair department to ensure she's got the right look for the movie.
I wish I could post the rest of the pics from that photoshoot, but they're a little too PG-13 to post directly on this forum, so I won't post them. But it's not like it'd be that hard for you to check the image's location and find them yourself though. :)
Two-Face
05-11-2005, 12:40 PM
1.Charlize Theron ain't a bad choice for Selina Kyle.
2.I don't like the picture you posted of Theron that's worst picture of her.
3.I prefer Jolie to play Selina.
4.I would not complain if Theron is selected for the role.
5. it seems you hate Jolie so much you know you're "anti-Jolie"
Timstuff
05-11-2005, 01:03 PM
I don't hate Jolie... I just find her extremely annoying. :D
If she were cast as Catwoman I would be able to live with it. But I think Theron is a much better choice.
P. Cushing
05-12-2005, 07:23 AM
What about Liv Tyler?
http://img47.echo.cx/img47/6235/livtyler0048uu.jpg
http://img47.echo.cx/img47/3764/livtyler0031wo.jpg
http://img47.echo.cx/img47/2057/livtyler0026ye.jpg
DorkyFresh
05-12-2005, 12:46 PM
I definitely wouldn't complain if Liv Tyler gets the part...
Timstuff
05-12-2005, 01:08 PM
Liv Tyler could be an OK selection, but I'm not so sure about her voice. She was able to change it for Lord of the Rings, and while she sounded great for Arwen, I don't really imagine Catwoman sounding like that. And her natural voice wouldn't do at all, because it would make Catwoman come off as being flakey. I wouldn't rule her out unless I've seen a screen test though.
http://charlizeonline.com/gallery/albums/magazines/allure/char-allure03.jpg http://www.allstarz.org/angelina/014.jpg
Who does the tongue roll better? :o
DorkyFresh
05-12-2005, 03:54 PM
Angelina Jolie looks more natural and sexier IMO. Her appearance alone just SHOUTS "Catwoman". Her attitude cements it.
Two-Face
05-12-2005, 03:56 PM
Agree with DorkyFresh. :up:
Timstuff
05-12-2005, 04:00 PM
I don't like Theron's haircut in that pic, but my "best tounge roll" vote goes to her. :)
With the right hair and makeup she looks exactly how I imagine Selina in live action.
Ok, well who has the more seductive look for the role? I'll provide the Jolie ones...someone else do the other candidate(s) :o
http://www.beautifulangelina.com/coppermine/albums/userpics/10001/rs2307.jpg
http://www.beautifulangelina.com/coppermine/albums/userpics/10001/rs2305.jpg
http://www.wutheringjolie.com/nuke/modules/Gallery/data/media/832/Esquire%20magazine%2011.04%20-%200005.jpg
http://www.wutheringjolie.com/nuke/modules/Gallery/data/media/832/Esquire%20magazine%2011.04%20-%200001.jpg
Anyone wanna take bets? http://www.superherohype.com/forums/images/smilies/hyperhead.gif
Spidey-Bat
05-12-2005, 05:15 PM
Jolie no doubt.
Timstuff
05-12-2005, 05:30 PM
Good lord, I shouldn't have to sink that low. This is rapidly becoming a pic posting contest. :o
Don't you think it would've been easier to just say, "No BK, there's no way I can find competing pics"? :o
http://www.superherohype.com/forums/images/smilies/tongue.gif
Timstuff
05-12-2005, 07:05 PM
I could, but if you wanna ogle some Charlize Theron pics I don't see why you can't look 'em up yourself.
Well I could, but the point was for everyone else to post pics to show off the actresses' range in emotions for the role. Despite what you may think, I was honestly doing it for the thread. :o
Timstuff
05-12-2005, 07:25 PM
Magazine scans aren't gonna show you what kind of range an actress has. The best way to find that out is by watching an actresses' movies. I think people just like having excuses to post lots of pictures of their favorite actresses (Jolie fans in particular).
DorkyFresh
05-12-2005, 07:34 PM
Magazine scans aren't gonna show you what kind of range an actress has.
BK didn't ask to post pictures of the actress's range.....he asked which one was more seductive.
Two-Face
05-12-2005, 07:51 PM
Magazine scans aren't gonna show you what kind of range an actress has. The best way to find that out is by watching an actresses' movies. I think people just like having excuses to post lots of pictures of their favorite actresses (Jolie fans in particular).
Hold on there min, I watch lot of movies and post who could good in a Batman movie. Jolie fans in particular" what hell is that mean?? I wouldn't mind Theron, Beckinsale etc... came on board to play Selina cos they can act same goes with Angelina Jolie I still think she's perfect for the role.
Timstuff
05-12-2005, 07:58 PM
Well, I'm in a good mood, and if that's what this is all about then fine. Here's some seductive looking pics of Theron.
http://charlizeonline.com/gallery/albums/photosessions/blackdresswall/charlize23.jpg
http://charlizeonline.com/gallery/albums/photosessions/whitehalter/charlize-theron229.jpg
http://charlizeonline.com/gallery/albums/photosessions/whitesheets/charlize-theron203.jpg
http://charlizeonline.com/gallery/albums/photosessions/nudes/charlize-theron060.jpg
This one's a bit to big to post directly, so here's the link.
http://charlizeonline.com/gallery/albums/addons/03-07-05/vlife/vlife-extra09.jpg
It's still my opinion that posting pics isn't terribly productive. It will reinforce someone's existing opinion, but it's not gonna make anyone switch sides.
It's still my opinion that posting pics isn't terribly productive. It will reinforce someone's existing opinion, but it's not gonna make anyone switch sides.
Someone needs to go old-school and post that Jolie/Selina comparison. That pic alone convinced at least 12 people that thought Jolie was "meh" for the role. And I last counted about a year ago. :o
DorkyFresh
05-13-2005, 01:42 AM
Well, I'm in a good mood, and if that's what this is all about then fine. Here's some seductive looking pics of Theron.
Those are some sexy pictures for sure, but she doesn't look as lustful as Jolie does. She looks beautiful, like I want to make love to that woman. With Jolie....I wanna **** her brains out.
Catwoman should be sexy and lustfull. Theron CAN be sexy, but in a more elegant way. Catwoman needs to be sexy in an erotic way.
darknite17
05-13-2005, 11:37 AM
Here are my choices...
http://www.estoeshollywood.com/Scarlet-Johanson.gif
http://www.geekroar.com/film/archives/liv4.jpg
http://lawprofessors.typepad.com/photos/uncategorized/beckinsale.jpg
Those are some sexy pictures for sure, but she doesn't look as lustful as Jolie does. She looks beautiful, like I want to make love to that woman. With Jolie....I wanna **** her brains out.
I've been looking for a way to describe how I want my Catwoman...and that was perfect! http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v132/Dex4788/Smilies/Laughing/006.gif
DorkyFresh
05-13-2005, 12:42 PM
I've been looking for a way to describe how I want my Catwoman...and that was perfect! http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v132/Dex4788/Smilies/Laughing/006.gif
True story!
Timstuff
05-13-2005, 02:23 PM
The poll on this thread has been up for almost a year. I wish we could have a new poll that could potentially better reflect current opinions. I'm doubtful many people have swayed away from voting Jolie though.
Two-Face
05-13-2005, 04:56 PM
The poll on this thread has been up for almost a year. I wish we could have a new poll that could potentially better reflect current opinions. I'm doubtful many people have swayed away from voting Jolie though.
You know people make right choice when selecting Jolie for Selina, That's why you want other theard/poll go with it.
Timstuff
05-13-2005, 05:16 PM
No, I just want to see what makes up the other 56%.
And choosing Jolie isn't the right choice, but people are too stupid to realise it and change their minds, so I don't expect her margin to shrink anytime soon. Saying you don't like Angelina Jolie on the internet is pretty much like saying you don't like Beer in a bar.
Chomp
05-13-2005, 07:42 PM
I agree with Tim. I don't want Jolie...nor do I want Theron.
I think someone a little "lesser" known needs to be cast as the role of Catwoman. This new franchise is about the actual film and story, rather than the people acting in it.
DorkyFresh
05-13-2005, 08:05 PM
And choosing Jolie isn't the right choice, but people are too stupid to realise it
Alright...there's no reason for you to call Jolie fans stupid just because we like Jolie. If that's the case, you're stupid for NOT liking her.
P. Cushing
05-13-2005, 08:20 PM
I think any of the following people would be excellent in the role:
Angelina Jolie
Charlize Theron
Kate Beckinsale
rystalI agree with Tim. I don't want Jolie...nor do I want Theron.
I think someone a little "lesser" known needs to be cast as the role of Catwoman. This new franchise is about the actual film and story, rather than the people acting in it.
If it was any other role, I'd absolutely agree. Though for Catwoman, a character whose embodiment is sex, lust, desire, etc....I just can't see anyone do it better than Jolie. Sure there are other things that come with the character, but really, are any of those, things Jolie can't do?
Timstuff
05-14-2005, 11:24 AM
I have a very specific image in my head of what a live-action Catwoman should look like, and so far Charlize Theron is the closest thing to a real version of that mental image I've seen. But that doesn't mean she's perfect, just that she's close enough that I'd be happy if she were selected. It all comes down to a matter of preference. Some people focus in on different aspects of certain characters, and they develope their own strong opinions about what the actors who play them should be.
One of my reasons for why I will never jump on the Jolie bandwagon unless she actually were to get the job, is because to me she feels like a shallow choice. Yeah, there's plenty of comparison pics around showing her looking very catwoman like, there's no doubt she has looks. But I really am not impressed with her work in recent years. All the baggage of her high-profile flops and hits alike will be coming with her. When I read someone talking about Angelina Jolie on the internet, I can't help but think of a special "Internet Etiquette guide" episode of "Red vs. Blue" that I got on a DVD. "DO YOU LIKE ANGELINA JOLIE? I LOVE ANGELINA JOLIE! SHE'S GOT BIG LIPS!" I thought it was really funny when I saw it, but partly because I bump into people like that on the internet everywhere, all the time.
I don't mean to disrespect the people on this site who want Jolie to play Catwoman. Most of them probably have perfectly intelectual reasons for wanting her in the role. But for others, I think that fanboy bais plays hevily into the selection. It's you're own opinion, and there's nothing I can do to change it. But I certainly don't have to agree with it.
Well put. But you certainly can't be talking about the majority of the Jolie supporters here are you? I'm pretty sure most of us have made valid reasons in why she should at least be tested.
Timstuff
05-14-2005, 12:28 PM
No, I'm not talking about you guys. The people who are posting in this poll, for the most part are simply stating their opinion on why they think actress X should play Catwoman, and for the most part everyone has been making rational statements. I'm talking about the alleged 94 voters who voted Jolie on the poll. Too bad it wasn't a public poll, I'd like to know who's voting on it. Or the random people who will occasionally come up out of no-where and say "JOLIE DANGIT". Many of those people are the same people who go into pretty much every casting-related thread there is and say "Angelina Jolie!" wether it's Wonder Woman or Metroid. I'm not saying the people here are like that, but when you nominate an actress for a role it's nice to have at least a little reassurance that there's a good reason why you want the actress in a role, and not just because you're a fanboy.
There's really not much that can be done about it though. Everyone is entitled to an opinion, and even if it's a stupid opinion there's nothing that can really be done. But that's why I really hope that whoever is heading up casting on the sequels doesn't simply put it to a public vote and makes the selection based on who is truly the best for the role. If it happens to be an actress I'd like in the role, fine. If it happens to be Jolie, also fine.
metr0man
05-14-2005, 04:00 PM
Here are my choices...
http://www.estoeshollywood.com/Scarlet-Johanson.gif
Great choice. Not only is she a great actress, and gorgeous, but she has larger expressive lips which will look good in a *good* catwoman costume.
The lips are really the only reason Jolie looks good in the catsuit (in those manips), but with Scarlett you get the lips, and a better actress, and someone younger you can rope in for possible sequels.
Also, she's got interesting cat-like eyes in that picture.
I like how people post hot looking pictures of a woman's body thinking that means naything anymore... 90 Percent of any women even REMOTELY in contention are smoking hot. That's not even an issue. And they are so close to each other in hotness. Hell, halle berry is a smoking hot woman. You cant get to that point in Hollywood without being smoking hot (unless you're that fat chick from The Practice or Rosie ODonnel).
The things to look for are: a) EYES, and b) lower face, which will stick out of the mask, structure of their lower face.
Timstuff
05-14-2005, 04:07 PM
How old is she? I'd like for the actress who plays Catwoman to be at least within 2 years of Bale's age (I think he turned 30 recently). She looks like she could be a good choice.
metr0man
05-14-2005, 04:07 PM
so Catwoman shoudl be TWENTY EIGHT!?!? Why so old?
(Scarlett is considerably younger than that, probably early 20s)
28 is old?! http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v132/Dex4788/Smilies/Confused/007.gif
I think with Catwoman, it's important for her to be close to Bruce's age, which is around 30. Besides, if you look at the top choices for the role (Theron and Jolie), do they really look old to you in the least? Selina should be in her prime as a woman, not a teen.
Timstuff
05-14-2005, 09:13 PM
Yes, that I can agree with you on. She's CatWOMAN, not Catgirl. 28 is hardly old. 45 is old. There are 28 year old college students for Pete's sake! (Well, not very bright ones, but they're there.) Catwoman definately should be a woman in her prime. If you get some 22 year old playing opposite of Bale who's 30, it screws things up. Selina Kyle needs to come across as a mature woman, not a ****ty college freshmen. At least Jolie is the right age to be playing across from Bale, and I'd definately choose her over an actress who's the wrong age for the part.
Maxwell Smart
05-14-2005, 09:38 PM
I still want Portman. :)
Eww. She has like...a little boy's body. :o
I'd still hit it 20 times over though. She has such a pretty face. http://www.superherohype.com/forums/images/smilies/redface.gif
Timstuff
05-14-2005, 10:24 PM
How dare you speak about my Natalie that way! :mad:
But she's not mature looking enough to play Catwoman, and she's too young.
Maxwell Smart
05-14-2005, 10:47 PM
How dare you speak about my Natalie that way! :mad:
But she's not mature looking enough to play Catwoman, and she's too young.
I disagree. :mad: http://www.superherohype.com/forums/images/smilies/redface1.gif
How dare you speak about my Natalie that way! :mad:
You can't honestly looks at pics of her, and say she has a woman's body, can you? :o
Timstuff
05-14-2005, 11:48 PM
I take it you didn't watch Star Wars Episode 2 very attentively...
But she does look a bit teenager-ish, I'll give ya that. I'm a a teenager though, so I guess that seems normal to me. :p
I take it you haven't seen a naked woman either? :D
ArmsHeldOut
05-14-2005, 11:53 PM
You can't honestly looks at pics of her, and say she has a woman's body, can you? :o
Now I wanna see some pix of her. Then again I can't imagine her as Catwoman so "scratch" that. Pun intended.
http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v428/MrMotto/natalieportmanglobe037jo.jpg (http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v428/MrMotto/natalieportmanglobe037jo.jpg)
See, nothing really womanly about that body. A girl maybe.... :o
Timstuff
05-15-2005, 12:11 AM
I've always thought of her more as a girl and not really as a full-fledged woman, but I still like her. :P
But this is getting completely off-topic. She ain't catwoman, and that's that.
DorkyFresh
05-15-2005, 02:28 AM
Portman is beautiful.....but a Catwoman she is not.
Timstuff
05-15-2005, 06:24 AM
Portman is beautiful.....but a Catwoman she is not.
^^^^^
DrMylesOBoogie
05-15-2005, 06:47 AM
Portman is gorgeous but she does look a little young to be play Catwoman opposite Bale's Batman.
Two-Face
05-15-2005, 06:56 AM
This is Selina for me in future Batman movies
http://us.movies1.yimg.com/movies.yahoo.com/images/hv/photo/movie_pix/twentieth_century_fox/mr____mrs__smith/angelina_jolie/smith.jpg
S_H_F_4839
05-15-2005, 07:53 AM
I voted for kate beckinsdale, I think she would nale the role, and hey we know she looks good in leather.
S_H_F_4839
05-15-2005, 07:55 AM
http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v428/MrMotto/natalieportmanglobe037jo.jpg (http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v428/MrMotto/natalieportmanglobe037jo.jpg)
Anyone else notice how much older she looks after being in closer.
Two-Face
05-15-2005, 09:46 AM
I voted for kate beckinsdale, I think she would nale the role, and hey we know she looks good in leather.
Let me correct you, it's Kate Beckinsale. :)
BurgessMeredith
05-16-2005, 01:47 PM
This is Selina for me in future Batman movies.
http://us.movies1.yimg.com/movies.yahoo.com/images/hv/photo/movie_pix/twentieth_century_fox/mr____mrs__smith/angelina_jolie/smith.jpg
I couldn't agree more.
http://img14.echo.cx/img14/5826/jolieascatwoman8xo.jpg
Two-Face
05-16-2005, 01:57 PM
That's great! how did you do that?
Riven
05-18-2005, 07:49 AM
Angelina Jolie... while not my first pick... is really becoming one of my favorites.
I still think we could go for more inspired casting, but I have to agree, she would be really good for the part.
Visionboy
05-18-2005, 10:34 AM
I read an early review of "Mr & Mrs. Smith" in which the reviewer commented who Jolie totally looks believable in her fight sequences and that they would want her on their side.
Jolie + Catwoman=:up:
Maxwell Smart
05-18-2005, 03:23 PM
PORTMAN, DAMMIT! :p
Two-Face
05-18-2005, 04:01 PM
http://us.movies1.yimg.com/movies.yahoo.com/images/hv/photo/movie_pix/twentieth_century_fox/mr____mrs__smith/angelina_jolie/smith.jpg
Timstuff
05-22-2005, 08:04 PM
http://img14.echo.cx/img14/5826/jolieascatwoman8xo.jpg
That illustration of Selina looks too much like Michael Jackson. Now I feel all weirded out. :|
Two-Face
05-24-2005, 08:31 AM
That illustration of Selina looks too much like Michael Jackson. Now I feel all weirded out. :|
Jolie is perfect for Selina Kyle and best drawing by Tim Sale TLH one of the best books written by Jeph Loeb, enough with the anti-Jolie stuff. Have you seen me bashing Theron?
Timstuff
05-24-2005, 10:29 AM
I didn't say Jolie looked like Jackson.
Two-Face
05-24-2005, 10:35 AM
Ok my bad sorry, but I love TLH Tim Sale and Jeph Loeb are my favorite best book written that look of Selina in TLH reminded me of Anglina Jolie first I read it since then I'm supporting Jolie for Selina in BB sequels.
T-1000
05-24-2005, 07:02 PM
Charlize Theron
Riven
05-24-2005, 08:31 PM
I like Shannyn Sossamon (the Rules of Attraction) more and more...
http://www.ukpoliticsmisc.org.uk/weblog/images/shannyn_sossamon.jpg
Batty for Bats!
05-24-2005, 10:06 PM
She is definently on the petite, acrobatic side of things... But would she look good in tight leather? :p
Mr. Beck
05-24-2005, 10:29 PM
don't know if she's been mentioned yet by vote is
Vanessa Marcil
check her out on the cover of maxim
Ok my bad sorry, but I love TLH Tim Sale and Jeph Loeb are my favorite best book written that look of Selina in TLH reminded me of Anglina Jolie first I read it since then I'm supporting Jolie for Selina in BB sequels.
I'll have to disagree there. While Jolie is my first choice, I don't see any resemblance to Sale's drawing. Tim's right, his rendition does look like Jackson. :p
I love Sale's style don't get me wrong, but I think a lot of his design for women's faces are just off. He draws bodies fine though. Pretty nice curves. :o
Timstuff
05-25-2005, 02:30 PM
I'll have to disagree there. While Jolie is my first choice, I don't see any resemblance to Sale's drawing. Tim's right, his rendition does look like Jackson. :p
I love Sale's style don't get me wrong, but I think a lot of his design for women's faces are just off. He draws bodies fine though. Pretty nice curves. :o
Ditto
Two-Face
05-29-2005, 04:36 PM
i was looking Angelina Joile's Bio, I came cross this:
"Nickname
Angie
Catwoman"
her nicknmae is "Catwoman"
http://www.imdb.com/name/nm0001401/bio
Did anyone read that Jolie interview in the current Vanity Fair magazine? Boy, if you thought she was a freak before.... http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v132/Dex4788/Smilies/Laughing/001.gif
She pointed out 3 months after her divorce with Billy Bob, she called up 2 good guy friends and asked them, "do you want to be my lover?". Needless to say, none of them said no. :p So what's my point? Currently she's pimpin' 2 guys for sex with no strings attached while raising a kid. Ok...not really a point, but god damn. :o
Hunter Rider
05-29-2005, 05:28 PM
Did anyone read that Jolie interview in the current Vanity Fair magazine? Boy, if you thought she was a freak before.... http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v132/Dex4788/Smilies/Laughing/001.gif
She pointed out 3 months after her divorce with Billy Bob, she called up 2 good guy friends and asked them, "do you want to be my lover?". Needless to say, none of them said no. :p So what's my point? Currently she's pimpin' 2 guys for sex with no strings attached while raising a kid. Ok...not really a point, but god damn. :o
I wanna be one of those guys:(
ApocolypseNow
06-02-2005, 12:33 AM
Christina ricci...she has the acting chops, wants the role, and is a beautiful woman, also is probably the perfect age. http://christinaricci.s5.com/main.jpg
DarkKnightJRK
06-02-2005, 12:37 AM
Did anyone read that Jolie interview in the current Vanity Fair magazine? Boy, if you thought she was a freak before.... http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v132/Dex4788/Smilies/Laughing/001.gif
She pointed out 3 months after her divorce with Billy Bob, she called up 2 good guy friends and asked them, "do you want to be my lover?". Needless to say, none of them said no. :p So what's my point? Currently she's pimpin' 2 guys for sex with no strings attached while raising a kid. Ok...not really a point, but god damn. :o
Yeah, I also remember recently reading about her in Mr. & Mrs. Smith that ups the freak-o-meter quite a bit.
It seems that during the sex scene involving her, the director tried to make her do just about the nastiest things he could think of, and while she does pause at them, it's not because she doesn't know them or doesn't want to do them, it's because she's trying to remember the last time she did them.
I heard that and I felt the "Dictinary of Sexual Terms" spin through my head and if it's the same for that director...:eek:
DarkKnightJRK
06-02-2005, 12:38 AM
Christina ricci...she has the acting chops, wants the role, and is a beautiful woman, also is probably the perfect age. http://christinaricci.s5.com/main.jpg
She looks preety good there. She could probably do a good Catwoman, though I think she'd be best as Harley Quinn.
Doc Holliday
06-02-2005, 03:02 AM
I like that...Christina Ricci as Harley Quinn...
Anyway, I voted Kate Beckinsale cause she's hotter than Angelina Jolie, but either of them would be perfect for the part.
Yeah, I also remember recently reading about her in Mr. & Mrs. Smith that ups the freak-o-meter quite a bit.
It seems that during the sex scene involving her, the director tried to make her do just about the nastiest things he could think of, and while she does pause at them, it's not because she doesn't know them or doesn't want to do them, it's because she's trying to remember the last time she did them.
I heard that and I felt the "Dictinary of Sexual Terms" spin through my head and if it's the same for that director...:eek:
Wait...which movie is this again? :eek:
DarkKnightJRK
06-02-2005, 12:27 PM
Wait...which movie is this again? :eek:
Mr. & Mrs. Smith.
Timstuff
06-02-2005, 01:27 PM
Jolie is way too wierd for me. :o
Phantasm
06-02-2005, 03:13 PM
People who want Jolie for the role simply do so based on their personal desire/fantasies circling around her and a catsuit!
Two-Face
06-02-2005, 03:16 PM
People who want Jolie for the role simply do so based on their personal desire/fantasies circling around her and a catsuit!
Not only that but she can act as Selina she has cat eyes the body
she will be great.
Dark Knight
06-02-2005, 06:02 PM
Jolie IS Selina/Catwoman......and Beckinsale IS Talia. Realize this......however don't expect Catwoman to be in the sequel.....CINO ruined that chance!
Timstuff
06-03-2005, 12:22 PM
Not only that but she can act as Selina she has cat eyes the body
she will be great.
She could be great, if the director shares your POV. But that's very up in the air. :o
Timstuff
06-03-2005, 12:24 PM
Jolie IS Selina/Catwoman......and Beckinsale IS Talia. Realize this......however don't expect Catwoman to be in the sequel.....CINO ruined that chance!
I wouldn't necessarily say that. CINO will be nothing but a bad memory by the time Catwoman shows up in one of the Batman sequels, and afterall, it's a BATMAN movie, so if someone goes in expecting it to be like CINO just because they heard Catwoman was in it then they are a true dunce.
Yeah, but I still wish it wouldn't have took place in the first place. That was a bad start for WB to rebirth their DC films, lol.
Timstuff
06-03-2005, 01:13 PM
Yeah, but I still wish it wouldn't have took place in the first place. That was a bad start for WB to rebirth their DC films, lol.
Indeed. If I had a time machine I'd send an army of Ninja Assasins to stop the movie from being made.
Dark Knight
06-03-2005, 01:45 PM
I wouldn't necessarily say that. CINO will be nothing but a bad memory by the time Catwoman shows up in one of the Batman sequels, and afterall, it's a BATMAN movie, so if someone goes in expecting it to be like CINO just because they heard Catwoman was in it then they are a true dunce.
yeah..well alot of the movie going public are dunces to the world of Batman. I can see people going....."Catwoman is in this film?" Where is Halle and that dumb costume??" Then us Batman fans would have to try and explain things.....ugh...it gets so tiring....
Two-Face
06-03-2005, 02:47 PM
She could be great, if the director shares your POV. But that's very up in the air. :o
Attacking Jolie not gonna help your case, I'm getting tired of it. :rolleyes:
regwec
06-03-2005, 02:55 PM
He didn't attack her. He simply said that she may not be cast in the role, which is indisputably true.
Two-Face
06-03-2005, 03:02 PM
Yeah I know Catwoman not in BB2 cos of CINO anyway.
Timstuff
06-03-2005, 06:16 PM
I think ideally, Catwoman would appear in the third movie. Selina Kyle could possibly be introduced in the second film though.
P. Cushing
06-03-2005, 07:15 PM
http://images1.imagehigh.com/imagehigh/02062005205939_angelina-allurenerble3.jpg
http://images1.imagehigh.com/imagehigh/02062005211859_angelina-GQ2replace.jpg
http://images1.imagehigh.com/imagehigh/02062005211900_angelina-GQ4.jpg
http://images1.imagehigh.com/imagehigh/02062005213201_angelina-0604GQrussia4.jpg
P. Cushing
06-03-2005, 07:17 PM
http://images2.imagehigh.com/imagehigh/02062005214224_angelina-jameswhite3.jpg
http://images2.imagehigh.com/imagehigh/02062005214227_angelina-jameswhite4.jpg
http://images1.imagehigh.com/imagehigh/02062005224358_angelina-random14a.jpg
http://images2.imagehigh.com/imagehigh/02062005230839_angelina-mrssmith9.jpg
http://images1.imagehigh.com/imagehigh/02062005221300_angelina-tombraider1.jpg
Two-Face
06-03-2005, 07:18 PM
I think ideally, Catwoman would appear in the third movie. Selina Kyle could possibly be introduced in the second film though.
Yeah like Pre-Selina Kyle who's just met Bruce Wayne.
P. Cushing
06-03-2005, 07:28 PM
http://images2.imagehigh.com/imagehigh/02062005230829_angelina-mrssmith7.jpg
http://images1.imagehigh.com/imagehigh/02062005220330_angelina-rollingstones5.jpg
http://images1.imagehigh.com/imagehigh/02062005220356_angelina-rollingstones11.jpg
You forgot the hottest Jolie pic to ever be photographed:
http://www.sexydesktop.co.uk/jo/jolie1891024x768.jpg
I swear to god the porn industry reeeaaalllly messed up this time... http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v132/Dex4788/Smilies/Cool/003.gif
DarkKnightJRK
06-03-2005, 08:25 PM
I swear to god the porn industry reeeaaalllly messed up this time... http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v132/Dex4788/Smilies/Cool/003.gif
She preety much is perfect for the porn industry, she even has the same amount of acting ability as the porn stars out there.
Now that's just messed up. :D
You know she'd win the Oscars for like every role...but not for the acting. ;)
Timstuff
06-03-2005, 09:25 PM
Why don't you guys just start a new thread just for Jolie pics? :o
P. Cushing
06-04-2005, 06:43 AM
Good idea.
P. Cushing
06-04-2005, 06:53 AM
http://www.superherohype.com/forums/showthread.php?p=5848858
Captain_Obvious
06-04-2005, 12:46 PM
NOT Jolie, Alba or Ricci :up:
Two-Face
06-04-2005, 02:39 PM
Alba is 24 now add three years she will be 27 and Bale will be 34, Alba is young to be Catwoman same with Ricci. Angelina Joilie fit the bill with age, cat eyes lips, body and of course acting chops.
Captain_Obvious
06-04-2005, 03:31 PM
Nope :)
What criteria for Catwoman doesn't she fit? Honestly. :confused:
DorkyFresh
06-04-2005, 06:09 PM
NOT Jolie, Alba or Ricci :up:
Alba pretty much, can't act (and has already starred in 2 comic book films) and Ricci doesn't look like the sexy Catwoman we all know and love...
Captain_Obvious
06-04-2005, 10:32 PM
Alba pretty much, can't act (and has already starred in 2 comic book films) and Ricci doesn't look like the sexy Catwoman we all know and love...
hmmm...well who on EARTH is left :o
Yeah, you're right. If they can find that perfect one...great. :up:
But as of now Jolie has nailed every part needed for the role to a T, so imo she's the best choice so far.
Captain_Obvious
06-05-2005, 10:31 AM
O_o
why you had the need to post that exact thing in the Talia suggestion thread is beyond me.
The board messed up the posting I guess, it's since been fixed... :o
Timstuff
06-05-2005, 12:18 PM
http://www.superherohype.com/forums/showthread.php?p=5848858
Well, now you people know where to keep it. Hopefully you won't need to flood this thread with hundreds of Jolie pics now, and we can stay on topic.
DarkKnightJRK
06-05-2005, 01:01 PM
Now that's just messed up. :D
You know she'd win the Oscars for like every role...but not for the acting. ;)
Messed up? Yes. True. Most definately.
She really is like a porn star. All the movies she's in where she's not naked is her acting like a clone of posh spice, and in the early roles she was in where she was naked ALL THE TIME, she was tolorable. If that's not a porn star actress, I don't know who is.
aboutnici
06-06-2005, 09:40 PM
My main reason why I've decided that Angelina Jolie is the perfect Selina Kyle a.k.a "catwoman" is this:
http://forum.souliejolie.com/index.php?act=Attach&type=post&id=11481
P. Cushing
06-07-2005, 01:57 AM
*Balls Explode*
Two-Face
06-07-2005, 07:42 AM
My main reason why I've decided that Angelina Jolie is the perfect Selina Kyle a.k.a "catwoman" is this:
http://forum.souliejolie.com/index.php?act=Attach&type=post&id=11481
Join the club. :up:
Philly Phanboy
06-07-2005, 09:41 AM
http://www.davidtitlow.com/images/shots/portfolio/leather.jpg
Has Eva Green been mentioned yet?
Captain_Obvious
06-07-2005, 09:49 AM
Eva's been mentioned more in the Talia thread
Philly Phanboy
06-07-2005, 03:24 PM
Eva's been mentioned more in the Talia thread
My bad. I never looked in that thread. :p
Captain_Obvious
06-07-2005, 03:27 PM
no worries :up:
just wanted to let you know...everyone in this thread is hung over Jolie..
..haha hung.
Timstuff
06-07-2005, 03:42 PM
no worries :up:
just wanted to let you know...everyone in this thread is hung over Jolie..
..haha hung.
Everyone? I guess that means I'm not part of everyone.
Two-Face
06-07-2005, 03:45 PM
97 people is, haha
Captain_Obvious
06-07-2005, 03:51 PM
Everyone? I guess that means I'm not part of everyone.
I'm sorry :(
Next time I'll be sure to check all 78 pages before I come to general consensus.
Infamy
06-10-2005, 02:40 PM
Angelina Jolie interview from MTV.com
And I quoute
"Her favorite scene involved leaping off a building in a dominatrix outfit. "It's something I've always wanted to do," she said. "I want to be a leather superhero; I want to be in plastic, jumping off a building."
*cough*Catwoman*cough*
Link
Jolie MTV Interview (http://www.mtv.com/movies/movie/239765/news/articles/1503791/story.jhtml)
hey yo its sean
06-10-2005, 02:55 PM
She preety much is perfect for the porn industry, she even has the same amount of acting ability as the porn stars out there.
.. because all the porn stars win Oscars, right?
Angelina Jolie interview from MTV.com
And I quoute
"Her favorite scene involved leaping off a building in a dominatrix outfit. "It's something I've always wanted to do," she said. "I want to be a leather superhero; I want to be in plastic, jumping off a building."
*cough*Catwoman*cough*
Link
Jolie MTV Interview (http://www.mtv.com/movies/movie/239765/news/articles/1503791/story.jhtml)
Like Bale, all her career moves are just leading her to the destined role.. :o :up:
Two-Face
06-10-2005, 07:35 PM
Angelina Jolie interview from MTV.com
And I quoute
"Her favorite scene involved leaping off a building in a dominatrix outfit. "It's something I've always wanted to do," she said. "I want to be a leather superhero; I want to be in plastic, jumping off a building."
*cough*Catwoman*cough*
Link
Jolie MTV Interview (http://www.mtv.com/movies/movie/239765/news/articles/1503791/story.jhtml)
I'm hoping WB heard that:up: so she can play Catwoman in next Batman sequels.
Captain_Obvious
06-11-2005, 01:22 AM
I'm hoping WB heard that:up: so she can play Catwoman in next Batman sequels.
Here's some logic my brothter came up with :)
"They've casted wholesome Holmes and now look at what the hell that girl is doing to this movie. Taking account of the Jolie's obvious media hype and media attention, I doubt WB would want to risk casting some woman who can't keep her mouth shut about being in activist, cutting her wrists and who's face is plastered every tabloid. Yes, I'm sure the Pitt love affair saga will end soon enough, but you know damn well she'll be in the papers for something else.
I say the WB should forget big name women and concentrate on either unknowns or highly underrated actresses."
...zoinks!
DorkyFresh
06-11-2005, 02:06 AM
Here's some logic my brothter came up with :)
"They've casted wholesome Holmes and now look at what the hell that girl is doing to this movie."
Well....considering Katie Holmes isn't that great of an actress, it's unfair to compare Holmes to Jolie. Jolie can put out awesome performances when under the right circumstances...
Here's some logic my brothter came up with :)
"They've casted wholesome Holmes and now look at what the hell that girl is doing to this movie. Taking account of the Jolie's obvious media hype and media attention, I doubt WB would want to risk casting some woman who can't keep her mouth shut about being in activist, cutting her wrists and who's face is plastered every tabloid. Yes, I'm sure the Pitt love affair saga will end soon enough, but you know damn well she'll be in the papers for something else.
I say the WB should forget big name women and concentrate on either unknowns or highly underrated actresses."
...zoinks!
Unlike Holmes/Cruise, neither Jolie nor Pitt are advertising this whole "affair". It's not their fault they're like the hottest people in Hollywood.
And the only thing Jolie talks about now, is her son and maybe tidbits into her sex life. All that other **** you said ended like 2 years ago. Ever since she adopted Maddox, she's been...tamed so to speak. :o
So no, I don't get what the point here is. Unless Jolie in the next 2 years does something to her reputation that will ruin her career, there's nothing bad about publicity. If anything, her public sex life will probably be praised as being perfect for this role. :p
Two-Face
06-11-2005, 09:50 AM
Here's some logic my brothter came up with :)
"They've casted wholesome Holmes and now look at what the hell that girl is doing to this movie. Taking account of the Jolie's obvious media hype and media attention, I doubt WB would want to risk casting some woman who can't keep her mouth shut about being in activist, cutting her wrists and who's face is plastered every tabloid. Yes, I'm sure the Pitt love affair saga will end soon enough, but you know damn well she'll be in the papers for something else.
I say the WB should forget big name women and concentrate on either unknowns or highly underrated actresses."
...zoinks!
Tell your brother that his logic sucks.
Captain_Obvious
06-11-2005, 09:50 AM
never said he made any sense, lol.
I only fully agree w/the last line of his e-mail anyway :D
Unknown/Underrated Woman Dammit!
Tell your brother that his logic sucks.
why?
Too much of a ***** to tell him yourself :o :cool: :)
...I take too much to heart :(
Two-Face
06-11-2005, 09:51 AM
Jolie for Catwoman/Selina Kyle dammit!
Unknown/Underrated Woman Dammit!
If we can find her. :up:
deDIKnight
06-11-2005, 10:26 AM
Jaime Goddamn Presley For Catwoman/selina Kyle Godammmmmittttt!!!!!!!
Why don't you do Jolie/Catwoman manips so you can see she really is perfect for the part. ;)
Two-Face
06-11-2005, 10:31 AM
Angelina Jolie is the Catwoman/Selina Kyle for me.
deDIKnight
06-11-2005, 10:36 AM
Angelina Jolie just doesnt strike me as catwoman
Jamie pressly does
And BK you want me to do Jolie as catwoman
Give me poses, the costume ref you want and Jolie facial pics
I'm real busy doing my own stuff just now - and for paid work commissioned by board members
So If you want a manip done - please do the necessary Googling
The Deadeye cant manip if you dont equip
Captain_Obvious
06-11-2005, 10:38 AM
I can't believe Dushku, Birch, Knightly and Alba are apart of this poll :confused:
Never taken the time to truly look over the nominations...and christ...they ****ing suck :up:
*googles Jolene Blalock*
OMFG HER FACE :eek: http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v190/InsayneJayne/Smilies/ga_fun_smiley8.gif
Angelina Jolie just doesnt strike me as catwoman
Jamie pressly does
Jolie doesn't strike you as Catwoman at all?! You do know her nickname's Catwoman right (http://www.imdb.com/name/nm0001401/bio)? :p
And just to show the resemblance:
http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v132/Dex4788/joliecatwoman.jpg
I'll get the reference pics to you as soon as I can. But I'm sure other Jolie supporters would GLADLY help me with this...right guys?! :mad:
Captain_Obvious
06-11-2005, 11:14 AM
...not a real Jolie supporter but I'll help b/c I'm really bored :)
http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v190/InsayneJayne/jolieascatwoman8xo.jpg
Riven
06-11-2005, 11:18 AM
I can't believe Dushku, Birch, Knightly and Alba are apart of this poll :confused:
Never taken the time to truly look over the nominations...and christ...they ****ing suck
Most of these casting polls suck beyond belief. Usually they're just attempts at getting a personal favorite voted in while nobody else cares and other, more supported choices are ousted.
Of the choices available, only Angelina Jolie, Shannyn Sossamon, Keira Knightly Charlize Theron and Kate Beckinsale deserve to be in this poll. The others are really bad ideas, in my opinion. I voted for Thora Birch cause I think she's a cutie, not cause I think she should be Catwoman.
...not a real Jolie supporter but I'll help b/c I'm really bored :)
http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v190/InsayneJayne/jolieascatwoman8xo.jpg
I hate how Sale draws women. I swear to god that's Michael Jackson in his night-wear. :o
Find more CATWOMAN pics will ya? :p
Two-Face
06-11-2005, 11:26 AM
here manip of Jolie as Catwoman I found on Google
http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v83/Geijutsuka/Manips/joliewoman2.jpg
I don't know who made it I'm sure someone here or at CS.net did it anyone know who did it?
Riven
06-11-2005, 11:32 AM
I hate how Sale draws women. I swear to god that's Michael Jackson in his night-wear.
That's just a really bad picture. Sale draws a much nicer looking Selina later in TLH and definitely in DV and When In Rome.
here manip of Jolie as Catwoman I found on Google
http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v83/Geijutsuka/Manips/joliewoman2.jpg
I don't know who made it I'm sure someone here or at CS.net did it anyone know who did it?
I'm pretty sure DorkyFresh made that one.
Riven
06-11-2005, 11:35 AM
http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v83/Geijutsuka/Manips/joliewoman2.jpg
Meow.
deDIKnight
06-11-2005, 11:36 AM
Oh I think I know who did that one........
Want a different Catwoman suit instead of Pfeiffers
And NO - not Berry's either
Theres only one black Catwoman - Eartha Kitt!
And yeah I did Know Jolies nickname is Catwoman - bit Tall aint she?
Always pictured Catwoman as slight and slinky - sorta Kirsten Kreuk build
Milla Jovovich would be good if she was shorter
Didnt like Halle as Storm - to young looking to small - Storm was wonder woman proportions
Still think Halle Berry had the right build and height for catwoman - but MAn did that movie suck the flies of a dead dogs pucker
Captain_Obvious
06-11-2005, 11:36 AM
I hate how Sale draws women. I swear to god that's Michael Jackson in his night-wear. :o
Find more CATWOMAN pics will ya? :p
I would've agreed with you...until I started reading When in Rome and liked the body proportions a little :p
http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v190/InsayneJayne/cats.jpg
deDIKnight
06-11-2005, 11:39 AM
Think he was talking about the face and hair
I like Tim's art - he's a great guy to know too
Captain_Obvious
06-11-2005, 11:41 AM
http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v190/InsayneJayne/joliewoman4.jpg
http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v190/InsayneJayne/joliewoman3.jpg
...
BALE!http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v190/InsayneJayne/Bale/04.jpg
http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v190/InsayneJayne/joliewoman1.jpg
http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v190/InsayneJayne/catjolie1.jpg
Kmack
06-11-2005, 11:45 AM
Whoa, those are damn good:up:
Two-Face
06-11-2005, 11:46 AM
I'm pretty sure DorkyFresh made that one.
I wanted to know who did it and it looks cool, where credit is due
thanks Fresh.
deDIKnight
06-11-2005, 11:48 AM
Yeah I think the whole point captain was I was meant to do a NEW ONE
not look at stuff already done
But out them all - I really like that last one with the Yellow lighting
nice stuff - wish folk signs their work
Captain_Obvious
06-11-2005, 11:49 AM
Think he was talking about the face and hair
I like Tim's art - he's a great guy to know too
well he said I hate how Sale draws women so I assumed he was speaking in general :up:
Staying on Sale...I hate most of his character designs
...just thought I'd repeat my opinion on him for the 105th time :o:up:
Captain_Obvious
06-11-2005, 11:51 AM
Yeah I think the whole point captain was I was meant to do a NEW ONE
not look at stuff already done
But out them all - I really like that last one with the Yellow lighting
nice stuff - wish folk signs their work
...um ok :confused:
I was just posting them for BK after the Find more CATWOMAN pics will ya? :p comment
...'scuse me.
deDIKnight
06-11-2005, 12:09 PM
Erm.....>_>
Erm.....<_<
Your Excused Captain
Just I thought I was going to get a preferred costume and Jolie poses to manip - if its pfeiffers one - so be it
Personally I like a cross between the BTAS one and a suit with the whip built into the costume - like a cats tail
but wound round the waist when not in use
Dont like the purple one much
Riven
06-11-2005, 12:11 PM
...just thought I'd repeat my opinion on him for the 105th time
It's okay... *pats you on the back* :D Don't worry about it, nobody's forcing you to like or read his stuff.
aboutnici
06-12-2005, 03:03 AM
Damn, the graphics of Angie as catwoman are amazing! I take that back is da bomb!
DorkyFresh
06-12-2005, 03:45 AM
thanks Fresh.
no problem...i'll probably make more in the future
DrMylesOBoogie
06-12-2005, 06:40 AM
http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v83/Geijutsuka/Manips/catwoman1.jpg
And yeah I did Know Jolies nickname is Catwoman - bit Tall aint she?
Always pictured Catwoman as slight and slinky - sorta Kirsten Kreuk build
Tall? No. She's 5'8 which is only slightly taller than the average woman, which is good. Catwoman in the comics never had a small frame, considering she was jumping all across the city with nothing but a whip, she had to be fairly trim and built. Jolie is that plus a blessed body so it's all good. :up:
Anyway, here are some pics that could be of use:
Catwoman
http://catwoman.iquebec.com/catwoman/pfeiffer/pfeiffer_catwoman-091.jpg
http://www.batmannews.de/gotham_multimedia/bat_art/pics_big/batman_returns_wallpaper_ca.jpg
http://img256.echo.cx/img256/5360/batmanreturns7fa.jpg
http://www.trinity-grafix.de/wallpapers/big/catwoman/2.jpg
http://www.gothampublicworks.com/images/gallery/balancing-cat.jpg
http://www.popculturemadness.com/Gifts/Pictures/CatMichelle.jpg
Jolie
http://www.sexydesktop.co.uk/jo/jolie193800x600.jpg
http://www.sexydesktop.co.uk/jo/jolie189800x600.jpg
http://www.sexydesktop.co.uk/jo/jolie176800x600.jpg
http://www.sexydesktop.co.uk/jo/jolie157800x600.jpg
http://www.sexydesktop.co.uk/jo/jolie123800x600.jpg
http://www.sexydesktop.co.uk/jo/jolie112800x600.jpg
http://www.sexydesktop.co.uk/jo/jolie88800x600.jpg
http://www.sexydesktop.co.uk/jo/jolie90800x600.jpg
Ok, that's it for now. Hopefully they'll help for your manips. Some backgrounds are too bland, and some colors might be off when you put 2 together, so I'm just relying on your skills for that one. ;)
Make us proud. :o :up:
heathm
06-12-2005, 10:29 AM
jolie is not built to play catwoman, she is to built and masculine, catwoman she be slim and gymnasticy, her face is good but catwoman is a thief and that big ass could not slide between laser detectors or other things of the sort. kate beckinsale all the way
DorkyFresh
06-12-2005, 11:11 AM
jolie is not built to play catwoman, she is to built and masculine, catwoman she be slim and gymnasticy, her face is good but catwoman is a thief and that big ass could not slide between laser detectors or other things of the sort. kate beckinsale all the way
Jolie's frame isn't much bigger than Beckinsale's....also, if you think this is masculine...
http://www.cinemovie.info/AngelinaJolie/AngelinaJolie7.jpg
...then you need to get your head checked.
jolie is not built to play catwoman, she is to built and masculine, catwoman she be slim and gymnasticy, her face is good but catwoman is a thief and that big ass could not slide between laser detectors or other things of the sort. kate beckinsale all the way
http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v132/Dex4788/Smilies/Confused/008.gif
PLEASE tell me that is a sarcastic comment! http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v132/Dex4788/Smilies/Laughing/005.gif
You think this is masculine and too built?
http://www.comicbookhotties.com/images/angelina-jolie/lara-croft-angelina-jolie.jpg
http://www.asdfplus.com/Posters/T2/TombR.gif
Not to mention Jolie has been in more "physical" roles than Beckinsale has and is constantly working out. Are you that blind that you can't see those curves? http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v132/Dex4788/Smilies/Laughing/004.gif
I've heard A LOT of things said about Jolie..but this...oh man, I never expected this... In fact, I've never found a more opportune moment to use this pic, cause it says a lot right now:
http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v132/Dex4788/Fun/smart_chart.jpg
BUMP, BUMP, BUMP
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:o
Two-Face
06-13-2005, 12:17 PM
jolie is not built to play catwoman, she is to built and masculine, catwoman she be slim and gymnasticy, her face is good but catwoman is a thief and that big ass could not slide between laser detectors or other things of the sort. kate beckinsale all the way
You must be blind or just being sarcastic? which one?
regwec
06-13-2005, 01:00 PM
heathm is either a troll, a gay man, or a straight female.
Captain_Obvious
06-13-2005, 01:19 PM
oh shut up :rolleyes:
let the guy have his ****ty opinion.
The thing is, if you had eyes...you'd see that isn't even an opinion. :p
Salemdog
06-13-2005, 01:27 PM
A couple of things to take into consideration.
Jolie is hot, true enough. And I'm sure can be made to look the part. But is a hot body all we want? She hasn't had a real good turn as an actress lately and hasn't got rave reviews from Mr. and Mrs. Smith. Now this is still a few years down the road and frankly she might not want the role either.
If you going for a look there is Melinda Clarke? Seen here.
http://askmen.com/women/actress_250/290_melinda_clarke.html
Ashley Scott from Birds of Prey (funny that)
http://askmen.com/women/actress_250/281_ashley_scott.html
I'm sure Eva Longoria might not mind taking a shot at the title..
Fairuza Balk would make a very interesting choice. Leonor Varelafrom Blade II as scene here
http://askmen.com/women/actress_200/240_leonor_varela.html could be another on the list.
Hell..I wouldn't be surprised if they pull a Carla Guigino, Mia Kirshner, Bridget Moynahan or Jordana Brewster out of the hat. They all have that profile look with out having that big big name that pulls huge salaries.
Bottom line..I'm not gonna set my cap for Jolie cause though she may have some of what we're looking for I can see the people casting going with an indie prospect like Bale. Someone good, but a little more low key. Just look at the casting in general. Lot of great actors, but on the low key side. Neeson, Caine, Freeman, Oldman, Watanabe, Wilkerson. Not a lot of big budget blockbuster style films to their names. But some great films just the same. I see them heading in the same direction for the future villians. Like with Cillian Murphy.
Captain_Obvious
06-13-2005, 01:38 PM
The thing is, if you had eyes...you'd see that isn't even an opinion. :p
don't start with me :o
A couple of things to take into consideration.
Jolie is hot, true enough. And I'm sure can be made to look the part. But is a hot body all we want? She hasn't had a real good turn as an actress lately and hasn't got rave reviews from Mr. and Mrs. Smith. Now this is still a few years down the road and frankly she might not want the role either.
If you going for a look there is Melinda Clarke? Seen here.
http://askmen.com/women/actress_250/290_melinda_clarke.html
Ashley Scott from Birds of Prey (funny that)
http://askmen.com/women/actress_250/281_ashley_scott.html
I'm sure Eva Longoria might not mind taking a shot at the title..
Fairuza Balk would make a very interesting choice. Leonor Varelafrom Blade II as scene here
http://askmen.com/women/actress_200/240_leonor_varela.html could be another on the list.
Hell..I wouldn't be surprised if they pull a Carla Guigino, Mia Kirshner, Bridget Moynahan or Jordana Brewster out of the hat. They all have that profile look with out having that big big name that pulls huge salaries.
Bottom line..I'm not gonna set my cap for Jolie cause though she may have some of what we're looking for I can see the people casting going with an indie prospect like Bale. Someone good, but a little more low key. Just look at the casting in general. Lot of great actors, but on the low key side. Neeson, Caine, Freeman, Oldman, Watanabe, Wilkerson. Not a lot of big budget blockbuster style films to their names. But some great films just the same. I see them heading in the same direction for the future villians. Like with Cillian Murphy.
I respect your opinion about Jolie, but I'm wondering, what about her isn't in the vein of Catwoman? All of us here have been discussing this for well over a year and I honestly can't say she's missing any sort of trait for this role. And yes, I know people question her acting ability, which imo is only because of the lackluster movie she has been in. She's not spectacular, but she is by no means horrible and just a pretty face in Hollywood.
Out of your list, I can see Melinda Clarke in the role. She has a bit of the freaky, sexual side to her and she's not a bad actress. :up:
don't start with me :o
It leads to sex, so I must continue. :o
Captain_Obvious
06-13-2005, 02:44 PM
I'm not THAT easy, contrary to popular belief
Salemdog
06-13-2005, 04:20 PM
I respect your opinion about Jolie, but I'm wondering, what about her isn't in the vein of Catwoman? All of us here have been discussing this for well over a year and I honestly can't say she's missing any sort of trait for this role. And yes, I know people question her acting ability, which imo is only because of the lackluster movie she has been in. She's not spectacular, but she is by no means horrible and just a pretty face in Hollywood.
Out of your list, I can see Melinda Clarke in the role. She has a bit of the freaky, sexual side to her and she's not a bad actress. :up:
It leads to sex, so I must continue. :o
I didn't say anything wasn't. I just think that along the lines of the way they seem to be casting certain roles they may look for someone not so....well-known let's say. Some like a Cillian Murphy. And to be honest I think she is to noticable. Not as much as a Halle Berry of course:rolleyes: If you look at the manips done it is quite obvious it's her. Her facial features are very distinct. Especially around the mouth. Now as she is supposed to be a cat-burgular then hopefully she wouldn't be seen alot but I thought, correct me if I'm wrong, that she ran in the same circles as Wayne though due to her..ahem..wealth. And I don't, from what I've seen, think that Bale is as discernable as Batman. The mask seems to distort his features somewhat. I doubt they would want to do that with a Catwoman.
That is one thing I would have a problem with. But otherwise Jolie has the athletic look. But I also don't feel Catwoman is all about, as you said, a freaky sexual side as represent in Burton's films. To me it's been more along the lines of the freedom and danger thrill of what she does. A free-spirit if you will. An adrenaline junkie. The only sexual aspect would come with Batman maybe. As a kindred spirit albet on different sides.
If they did choose Jolie they may have to change the mask a bit, but I still think during the auditions it would still be noticable to those there it might be too difficult to hide who she is and still keep the realism aspect intact
Well I wouldn't say it's Jolie that is the problem for the mask. It's more of the mask itself. The most known mask is this:
http://www.batmannews.de/gotham_multimedia/bat_art/pics_big/Catwoman.jpg
Now, without even looking at the person under it, you can clearly tell that not even half of the mask is used to disguise the person. It's a flaw in the design I will admit. Which is why I think a mix of both the original design and the new one would work:
http://wf.toonzone.net/WF/thebatman/episodes/14batcatugly/08.jpg
http://wf.toonzone.net/WF/thebatman/episodes/06catbat/13.jpg
With the goggles on, it covers more of the face and only leaves the lower half uncovered, just like Batman's. They don't even need to have the goggles transparent, making it more useful as a disguise. I don't know what the need for the goggles are, whether it be for identity protection or simple wind resistance, but I think it looks good.
And Jolie's over the top celeb status, yea I know..it does seem to put a hamper on the chances of her being cast with the current crew. But you know, I'm still hoping that they realize how she fits the criteria very well, and a lot of the fans are gunning for her. She at least deserves a screentest. Whoever wins out though, if it's not Jolie...it better be a damn good unknown.
Salemdog
06-13-2005, 05:18 PM
Well I wouldn't say it's Jolie that is the problem for the mask. It's more of the mask itself. The most known mask is this:
http://www.batmannews.de/gotham_multimedia/bat_art/pics_big/Catwoman.jpg
Now, without even looking at the person under it, you can clearly tell that not even half of the mask is used to disguise the person. It's a flaw in the design I will admit. Which is why I think a mix of both the original design and the new one would work:
http://wf.toonzone.net/WF/thebatman/episodes/14batcatugly/08.jpg
http://wf.toonzone.net/WF/thebatman/episodes/06catbat/13.jpg
With the goggles on, it covers more of the face and only leaves the lower half uncovered, just like Batman's. They don't even need to have the goggles transparent, making it more useful as a disguise. I don't know what the need for the goggles are, whether it be for identity protection or simple wind resistance, but I think it looks good.
And Jolie's over the top celeb status, yea I know..it does seem to put a hamper on the chances of her being cast with the current crew. But you know, I'm still hoping that they realize how she fits the criteria very well, and a lot of the fans are gunning for her. She at least deserves a screentest. Whoever wins out though, if it's not Jolie...it better be a damn good unknown.
True enough about the mask, but think about one of her most discernable features. Yep, her lips. Even women with collagen injections (and sorry ladies, unless she got em when she was 12 she's all natural) find it hard to get a mouth like that. And I think she has enough natural "I wanna be one of the boys" toughness to pull it off. But I, while I can see it, just honestly feel they'll go with a semi-unknown. And like Murphy it will be the role to shoot them into the limlight. Just like with Bale as well. And face it, neither one was that well known outside certain circles. They will be now of course.
I just see Nolan pulling in more indie actors, or lessor knowns, like Bale and Murphy, to fill the major roles thus enabling the audience to better immerse themselves into the characters without them thinking "Hey, there's someone really famous playing that villian."
One reason I think most of us agree on a Liev Schrieber
Salemdog
06-13-2005, 05:24 PM
Well I wouldn't say it's Jolie that is the problem for the mask. It's more of the mask itself. The most known mask is this:
http://www.batmannews.de/gotham_multimedia/bat_art/pics_big/Catwoman.jpg
Now, without even looking at the person under it, you can clearly tell that not even half of the mask is used to disguise the person. It's a flaw in the design I will admit. Which is why I think a mix of both the original design and the new one would work:
http://wf.toonzone.net/WF/thebatman/episodes/14batcatugly/08.jpg
http://wf.toonzone.net/WF/thebatman/episodes/06catbat/13.jpg
With the goggles on, it covers more of the face and only leaves the lower half uncovered, just like Batman's. They don't even need to have the goggles transparent, making it more useful as a disguise. I don't know what the need for the goggles are, whether it be for identity protection or simple wind resistance, but I think it looks good.
And Jolie's over the top celeb status, yea I know..it does seem to put a hamper on the chances of her being cast with the current crew. But you know, I'm still hoping that they realize how she fits the criteria very well, and a lot of the fans are gunning for her. She at least deserves a screentest. Whoever wins out though, if it's not Jolie...it better be a damn good unknown.
True enough about the mask, but think about one of her most discernable features. Yep, her lips. Even women with collagen injections (and sorry ladies, unless she got em when she was 12 she's all natural) find it hard to get a mouth like that. And I think she has enough natural "I wanna be one of the boys" toughness to pull it off. But I, while I can see it, just honestly feel they'll go with a semi-unknown. And like Murphy it will be the role to shoot them into the limlight. Just like with Bale as well. And face it, neither one was that well known outside certain circles. They will be now of course.
I just see Nolan pulling in more indie actors, or lessor knowns, like Bale and Murphy, to fill the major roles thus enabling the audience to better immerse themselves into the characters without them thinking "Hey, there's someone really famous playing that villian."
One reason I think most of us agree on a Liev Schreiber, or Guy Pierce, David Suchet, Crispen Glover and others for various roles. They're not huge in the public eye but they could do the job very well.
DorkyFresh
06-13-2005, 06:28 PM
I just see Nolan pulling in more indie actors, or lessor knowns, like Bale and Murphy, to fill the major roles thus enabling the audience to better immerse themselves into the characters without them thinking "Hey, there's someone really famous playing that villian."
Ah....but you can't count out the fact that Christopher Nolan HAS worked with uber popular stars in the past such as Al Pacino and Robin Williams. He also worked with Joe Pantoliano and Carrie Anne-Moss right after the Matrix came out.
Not to mention Morgan Freeman and Liam Neeson (while not as popular among the teens and general audience) are still very popular among regular movie watchers.
Two-Face
06-13-2005, 06:48 PM
If Nolan chooses Angelina Jolie for the role, I'm sure he can handle Jolie on set like he did with Liam Nesson, Morgan Freeman and Gary Oldman.
Salemdog
06-13-2005, 09:29 PM
Ah....but you can't count out the fact that Christopher Nolan HAS worked with uber popular stars in the past such as Al Pacino and Robin Williams. He also worked with Joe Pantoliano and Carrie Anne-Moss right after the Matrix came out.
Not to mention Morgan Freeman and Liam Neeson (while not as popular among the teens and general audience) are still very popular among regular movie watchers.
Again..never said he couldn't. Never said he wouldn't. I just see them going that way. Moving away from the Uber stars as you put it, seems the right choice. Freeman and Neeson remained in supporting roles. Not to say Neeson won't be back in a larger capacity later. But can you deny the appeal of bringing in the lessor known like Bale or Murphy? There are many fine actors and actresses without the Uber appeal that could more than fill the roles and at the same time, like Bale and Murphy, allow the audience to better lose themselves of the roles presented without the problems presented by a Nicholson, Devito, Carrey, or Schwarzenegger. In other words..No one thinking that's Nicholson playing the Joker instead of just thinking...Joker.
Very few are able to lose themselves in a role. One would be Depp. When watching Pirates of the Caribbean I know most stopped thinking Depp and started thinking Jack Sparrow. I just feel that's needed for continuing success in the series.
Again, I never said Jolie wouldn't make a good Catwoman. I just feel there are better choices out there that could lose themselves in the role and make you think...Selina Kyle...instead of Jolie playing Kyle.
Salemdog
06-13-2005, 09:32 PM
If Nolan chooses Angelina Jolie for the role, I'm sure he can handle Jolie on set like he did with Liam Nesson, Morgan Freeman and Gary Oldman.
It's easy to "handle" people when they're consumate professionals.
P. Cushing
06-15-2005, 02:49 AM
What about Julia Rose (Julie Newmar in Return to the Batcave)?
antmanx68
06-15-2005, 09:17 AM
That is one thing I would have a problem with. But otherwise Jolie has the athletic look. But I also don't feel Catwoman is all about, as you said, a freaky sexual side as represent in Burton's films. To me it's been more along the lines of the freedom and danger thrill of what she does. A free-spirit if you will. An adrenaline junkie. The only sexual aspect would come with Batman maybe. As a kindred spirit albet on different sides.
If they did choose Jolie they may have to change the mask a bit, but I still think during the auditions it would still be noticable to those there it might be too difficult to hide who she is and still keep the realism aspect intact
No one really sees her during her crimes. Plus she's not likely to come in contact with the people that she's robbed except for Bruce who is bound to know eventually anyway. I definitely do agree with Catwoman not being all about a wild sexual side like in Returns... she's just more of a rogue, and I think she's just super selfish.... But like in Hush i'd like that to be something that she can outgrow. I think Jolie the person has personified a lot of the aspects of Catwoman... she could make the character very believable. She could be sexy, thrill seeking, dangerous, mischievious, playful, but then have a silver lining when it comes down to it (Once again like in Hush, which is what i'd like to see kind of in a sequel.)
And I dont know who can question her acting ability, i've never seen her turn in a bad performance no matter how much the movie stunk.
Sogmot1969
06-15-2005, 12:08 PM
Angelina Jolie has the phisicality, the gravitas, the playfulness, the animal magnetism, the feral, feline eyes, she oozes danger, mischief and sex.
She IS Catwoman.
She can handle stunts, she looks convincing doing action-heavy scenes, she has a fantastic body and she is great at playing characters with psychological scars (Her Emmy and Golden Globe winning title role in GIA and her Oscar Winning role in GIRL INTERRUPTED prove that if anything, she can play disturbed women extremely well)
Sogmot1969
06-15-2005, 12:14 PM
Angelina Jolie already played Lara Croft. I don't want her to be part of the Batman franchise. Also those pouty lips would completely destroy any credability of Batman not knowing Catwoman is Selina Kyle. "Hey Selina, why do you and Catwoman both have pouty lips?" "Uh... We have the same plastic surgeon?"
Right, because Michelle Pfeiffer's gorgeously peculiar lips and penetrating eyes are absolutely inconspicuous....("hey, Selina, why do you and Catwoman have the same collagen lips and piercingly sad blue eyes?" "We use the same contacts and the same brand of collagen...)
And BTW, Angelina's lips are real...check out her brother's lips and her pictures of her as a twelve year old.
Pfeiffer's lips on the other hand, are fake...she was a thin-lipped teenager in pics (Not to take anything from Michelle...she is gorgeous)
antmanx68
06-15-2005, 02:07 PM
Gimme a J, Gimme an O, Gimme an L, Gimme an I, Gimme an E!!!!!
Whats that spell?!?!?!
CATWOM- I mean JOLIE, but CATWOMAN TOO!
Salemdog
06-15-2005, 05:22 PM
Of course this is providing they use a Catwoman in the next two films. Between Joker and possibly Dent in the third I doubt they would make the same mistake as they 3rd and fourth films and overstock the villian element. Those two would definately need to stand on their own.
So that begs the question. Should Joker and Dent have singular roles and/or bleed into the third film? And would adding another distract from that. And we shouldn't forget that both Scarecrow and Ra's are probably still alive. So there begs another consideration. Will one or the other show up again in the second or third film?
Would Catwoman be introduced in a role similiar to Scarecrow...not major or minor but in between. While the Joker or Dent get the main time?
Just things to consider.
DarkKnightJRK
06-15-2005, 05:40 PM
Overstock the villian element? BB has FIVE villians (6 if you count Joe Chill).
Salemdog
06-15-2005, 05:51 PM
Overstock the villian element? BB has FIVE villians (6 if you count Joe Chill).
But were they a Joker or a Dent? Scarecrow seems to have been treated minorly as well. Though if he comes back he could be a more major player. Chill, what, ten minutes? Fifteen for Falcone? Can't see Joker or Dent relageted to that level.
Who else? Except for Ra's or Scarecrow who got major coverage?
Spidey-Bat
06-15-2005, 08:42 PM
Overstock the villian element? BB has FIVE villians (6 if you count Joe Chill).
This is how I see it.
1 Major Villian (Ra's)
2 Minor Villians (Crane and Falcone)
1 Very Minor villian (Chill)
Zsaz was a cameo, the Joker card was foreshadow, and Ra's Bodyguards are just Ubu cameos.
DarkKnightJRK
06-15-2005, 09:19 PM
This is how I see it.
1 Major Villian (Ra's)
2 Minor Villians (Crane and Falcone)
1 Very Minor villian (Chill)
Zsaz was a cameo, the Joker card was foreshadow, and Ra's Bodyguards are just Ubu cameos.
I think they also counted Earle as a villian, so it is 5.
Spidey-Bat
06-15-2005, 09:41 PM
Earle isn't a villian. He was just an *******.
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