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GoldenAgeHero
08-08-2007, 09:54 AM
Being that I'm an idiot I hope that the Ion Entity will find it's way to Hal Jordan on Qward and merge with him. Then have Kyle/Parallax and Hal Jordan/Ion go at it in a big climactic battle resulting in Hal returning the favor to Kyle for "not writing him off" during the Rebirth Saga. But that's just me and I know Hal isn't gonna let Parallax take Kyle for good without a fight. Hal respect Kyle and everything Kyle has gone through.
sounds enticing.
CLARKY
08-08-2007, 06:11 PM
Yeah I agree, good idea Izzy.
Memphis Slim
08-08-2007, 08:25 PM
sounds enticing.
I believe that will happen.
IzzyJG99
08-08-2007, 09:32 PM
I know some people are against what I said. That's okay. Eitherway I think Hal will end up kicking some butt and saving Kyle. He's got honor to repay.
GoldenAgeHero
08-09-2007, 10:19 PM
Green Lantern 22:another great issue by geoff and reis. one of the lost lanterns,chance gets offed by Kyle...i mean parallax(lol). and it looks like the sinestro corps are building a mogo of thier own..i dub it "the death star". and In return for playing his role in the "fear movement", hank henshaw will findly get what he wants..death granted by the hands of the anti-monitor. back on qward hal and the lost lanterns go and try to retreive ion..the entity. but err the creepy storyteller lady stops them before reaching guy and john, while the others are left to search for ion. we also get a glimpse of superman Prime, not much is said except for "stupid earth"
9.5/10
TheCorpulent1
08-09-2007, 11:01 PM
Anti-Monitor, dude. The Monitors are all the bearded douchebags who make Countdown so irritating.
Does anyone else find it infuriating that the lantern symbol on Kyle's new, post-Parallax costume is going to be stuck on the left side of his chest? The costume would actually look pretty good if the lantern were just in the goddamn center of his chest, like it has been for his last two costumes. But no, that one little detail makes the whole thing look like crap. :(
GoldenAgeHero
08-09-2007, 11:18 PM
did you like the ish besides taht minor slip?
TheCorpulent1
08-09-2007, 11:24 PM
I was fairly indifferent. Johns didn't do anything terrible, since I know Kyle's going to be back to normal soon and, given what he's done with Hal, Kyle will be 100% absolved of any wrongdoing while under Parallax's influence. I just hope Parakyle kicks Hal's ass at some point. That's the only enjoyment I can really get out of Johns' section of the crossover. Gibbons, on the other hand, has me anxiously anticipating what happens next in GLC with the other GLs who are actually cool.
Anubis
08-10-2007, 12:01 AM
Kyle's not gonna make it outta this event alive.
TheCorpulent1
08-10-2007, 08:12 AM
The Search for Ray Palmer covers beg to differ.
Anubis
08-10-2007, 09:42 AM
It's his ghost.
TheCorpulent1
08-10-2007, 09:57 AM
Again? I could live with that.
BrianWilly
08-10-2007, 10:01 AM
But he couldn't.
HA!
AHAHA!
HA.
Anubis
08-10-2007, 10:09 AM
Wow. You're really Jim Carey aren't you? You are sooooo funny.
BrianWilly
08-10-2007, 10:11 AM
Jim Carrey only wishes he had my power.
yenaled
08-10-2007, 06:47 PM
The Search for Ray Palmer covers beg to differ.
Multiverse. :(
LadyVader
08-11-2007, 02:24 AM
I was fairly indifferent. Johns didn't do anything terrible, since I know Kyle's going to be back to normal soon and, given what he's done with Hal, Kyle will be 100% absolved of any wrongdoing while under Parallax's influence.
They certainly hammered that point home with Parallax saying: "I can hear Kyle screaming, trying to claw his way out". Kyle is little more than a vessel at this point.
And what is with the guy's mouth!? What the hell? He's supposed to be intimidating or what? it looks like the artist wanted to turn him into an uber-vamp like the one in Blade 2. :)
CLARKY
08-11-2007, 04:35 AM
*yeah, it's something that kinda bugs me ; I would prefer a "normal" approach to the face, like Parallax was in Zero Hour.
yenaled
08-11-2007, 06:09 AM
I think it's an attempt to separate Kyle and Kylellax. Make him much more of a monster.
CLARKY
08-11-2007, 01:26 PM
yes, yes I agree, indeed. I dislike this new version of Parallax, obligatory showing the monster within. I preferred the old version. Saying that the embodiment of fear is present in their very soul, OK, but I prefered it when it stayed within.
GoldenAgeHero
08-11-2007, 03:21 PM
Then Ethan Van Sciver was asked about Sinestro Corps - "We have an amazing ending - a great wrap-up for this," Van Sciver said. Then Van Sciver told the audience what Newsarama reported from San Diego -- that he is drawing 10 pages of Green Lantern #25 that will be "a prelude to our final chapter in the trilogy that will come out around 2009," he said. "It's awhile away, but in the meantime, we're going to feed you 10 pages of teaser stuff to whet your appetite."
http://forum.newsarama.com/showthread.php?t=124941
TheCorpulent1
08-12-2007, 10:28 AM
Ugh, another two years of this junk? I hope Gibbons sticks around on GLC.
GoldenAgeHero
08-12-2007, 11:53 AM
i wonder why its going to take 2 years. thats BS.
yenaled
08-12-2007, 12:40 PM
It'll be 2 years and only 10 issues released.
Colossal Spoons
08-12-2007, 01:03 PM
Kyle's not gonna make it outta this event alive.
Don't say such things.
Oh, and I'm gonna need Superboy Prime to do something soon. Thanks
Assassin
08-12-2007, 05:11 PM
agreed with spoons.
Freakjokerxxx
08-12-2007, 10:10 PM
Can't wait till SBP confronts the heroes.
"Paybacks a *****."
Colossal Spoons
08-12-2007, 10:28 PM
Jimmy Olsen is gonna pwn SBP :o
TheCorpulent1
08-12-2007, 10:31 PM
That would actually be cool. His powers seem to scale to whatever he's facing so far. Maybe if he were faced with Superdouche Prime, he'd spontaneously develop reality manipulation or something.
Colossal Spoons
08-12-2007, 10:36 PM
Retcon Dodge!
Archer_11
08-12-2007, 10:38 PM
Basically during Raab's run DC decided they weren't going to continue the series with Kyle and going to get Hal back. Ron Marz was given the task to write a final Kyle arc for the series. Raab wasn't told that it would end so quickly and Marz didn't have time to close any of those storylines off (I actually think he didn't even know about them when he was writing - all he was told is write a story about Kyle at the end have him go into Space for Rebirth). So everything was just ignored, he put that one line to get Kyle back to Earth really quickly and the female Guardian's actions were never explained.
She has only appeared once more in the Omega Men miniseries a few months ago, but I didn't read it or know anyone that did so no idea if they explained anything in that.
Thanks all who replied to my question - very much appreciated. What a tragedy that Marz didn't have time to write a proper ending and that Raab didn't finish of his arc they way he wanted. I'm actually a little bit angry that DC ended up going with a story that in many ways ended with almost no logic or pacing. I also hate it when a writer spends so much time trying to develop something and it ends up just going nowhere.
TheCorpulent1
08-12-2007, 10:59 PM
Yeah, at least when Hal got ****ed over ten years ago, the writer got to finish that story completely.
Kitsune
08-12-2007, 11:09 PM
That would actually be cool. His powers seem to scale to whatever he's facing so far. Maybe if he were faced with Superdouche Prime, he'd spontaneously develop reality manipulation or something.
How about Giant Turtle Boy?
TheCorpulent1
08-12-2007, 11:48 PM
As long as he kicks Emoboy Prime's ass, I'm cool with it.
CLARKY
08-30-2007, 06:01 PM
I just read GL #22 and I liked it a lot. The story is fine but is not one of the best. I find that Parallax give up the fight a little too easily. There were good things but overall, I felt that the fight against Parallax was useless, that they killed Chance just in order to make it "not useless". Come on they are fighting Parallax!! And few Lanterns arrive and hop, it ends.(for now) .
The art keep being amazing, incredible but I was deveived by this part 4 of the Sinestro Corps storyline.
CaptainClown
09-03-2007, 02:44 PM
I just read GL #22 and I liked it a lot. The story is fine but is not one of the best. I find that Parallax give up the fight a little too easily. There were good things but overall, I felt that the fight against Parallax was useless, that they killed Chance just in order to make it "not useless". Come on they are fighting Parallax!! And few Lanterns arrive and hop, it ends.(for now) .
The art keep being amazing, incredible but I was deveived by this part 4 of the Sinestro Corps storyline.
Ya I agree with you
blake
09-03-2007, 04:44 PM
To all intents and purposes Rebirth is a great story, but the whole idea of Parallax being a parasitic entity was just to bring Hal back.
But what I liked about Emerald Twilight was that it showed that these heroes are human after all (well most of them) and Hal Jordan broke under the anguish and loss of his home and the people he loved.
As he later sacrificed his life in the Final Night I hoped he would stay dead (but which I seriously doubted) because after all he died as a true hero.
To me Hal was more interesting as a fallen hero... bringing him back was like, you know,
telling you Anakin Skywalker actually never really turned evil but just manipulated by a entity of the dark side called Vader.
TheCorpulent1
09-03-2007, 05:58 PM
Yeah, but that would've tarnished his Silver Age perfection, and Johns would never have that, even if it costs him heaps of great story potential.
Kitsune
09-03-2007, 06:00 PM
To all intents and purposes Rebirth is a great story, but the whole idea of Parallax being a parasitic entity was just to bring Hal back.
But what I liked about Emerald Twilight was that it showed that these heroes are human after all (well most of them) and Hal Jordan broke under the anguish and loss of his home and the people he loved.
As he later sacrificed his life in the Final Night I hoped he would stay dead (but which I seriously doubted) because after all he died as a true hero.
To me Hal was more interesting as a fallen hero... bringing him back was like, you know,
telling you Anakin Skywalker actually never really turned evil but just manipulated by a entity of the dark side called Vader.
That's the plot for episode 7
CLARKY
09-03-2007, 07:03 PM
^Tell me you are ironic.
To all intents and purposes Rebirth is a great story, but the whole idea of Parallax being a parasitic entity was just to bring Hal back. I agree but I think that the Parallax entity is a good idea after all.
But what I liked about Emerald Twilight was that it showed that these heroes are human after all (well most of them) and Hal Jordan broke under the anguish and loss of his home and the people he loved.
As he later sacrificed his life in the Final Night I hoped he would stay dead (but which I seriously doubted) because after all he died as a true hero. Yes but most of peole keep saying he was still the most boring character in the DC and Marvel universe. Anyway, I agree with you I liked that part, but human being are not limited to be failing too. I think it's a good idea to bring back Hal (and God, I hate it when people come back from the dead), because I'm part of those who like the character and think he has potential, and I think it's good to see what can be done with him in in the second millenium. Nevertheless, I agree with you, and I dislike the Parallax entity as an excuse. I like the idea, I like the concept, fine, but the whole "it's not my fault" thing ... no thanks. That makes Hal too bright. I like bright heroes, I like vertuous heroes, but I think it's bad to consider Parallax as an excuse. That's why I consider Hal "influenced" by Parallax, but not "controlled" at all (despite the well-written "Rebirth"). He was aware of his actions ; He felt sad, he was frightened, he was angry and felt betrayed, fine, he was slightly influenced, fine, but I don't consider Parallax as an excuse.
To me Hal was more interesting as a fallen hero... bringing him back was like, you know, telling you Anakin Skywalker actually never really turned evil but just manipulated by a entity of the dark side called Vader. Yeah, I understand your point and I agree with you. But I think it's not good to consider him only as a fallen hero. Nobody seemed to care about him as a hero, so I think for "most" people Hal was just "interesting" when he became a fallen hero. I liked G.Johns stories on almost verything he has done, so I wait for him to deliver what he's got for Hal, even if I don't always agree with him.
CaptainClown
09-03-2007, 07:17 PM
I'm glad I'm not the only one who liked Parallax. Back in the 90s he is what got me liking Green Lantern.
Colossal Spoons
09-03-2007, 07:20 PM
How many issues back in GL:Corps did the Sinestro Corp thing start?
BrianWilly
09-03-2007, 07:24 PM
It didn't officially start until very recently in #14, but elements of it were set into place back in #10. Nothing significant, just hints. But GL Corps is a pretty good comic and you should just read it anyway if you like the GLs.
GoldenAgeHero
09-03-2007, 09:33 PM
To all intents and purposes Rebirth is a great story, but the whole idea of Parallax being a parasitic entity was just to bring Hal back.
But what I liked about Emerald Twilight was that it showed that these heroes are human after all (well most of them) and Hal Jordan broke under the anguish and loss of his home and the people he loved.
As he later sacrificed his life in the Final Night I hoped he would stay dead (but which I seriously doubted) because after all he died as a true hero.
To me Hal was more interesting as a fallen hero... bringing him back was like, you know,
telling you Anakin Skywalker actually never really turned evil but just manipulated by a entity of the dark side called Vader.
i don't know about that, the darkside can be a powerfulforce, such as hate,fear,etc. plus he was sorta manipulated by the sith and he did redeem himself to save his son. whichpretty kuchshows he always had good in him,espeically in the scene where he's conflicted on what to do.,save his son or obey his master and do nothing.
trustyside-kick
09-03-2007, 11:48 PM
I just picked up and read the Sinestro Corps stuff with this title and GLC, and man am I loving it. Story has been enjoyable and the art is just so amazing. I'm debating about making this title a regular for me after this war is over.
CaptainClown
09-03-2007, 11:50 PM
I just picked up and read the Sinestro Corps stuff with this title and GLC, and man am I loving it. Story has been enjoyable and the art is just so amazing. I'm debating about making this title a regular for me after this war is over.
are they going to continue it? I really like the series as well.
Colossal Spoons
09-04-2007, 12:28 AM
It didn't officially start until very recently in #14, but elements of it were set into place back in #10. Nothing significant, just hints. But GL Corps is a pretty good comic and you should just read it anyway if you like the GLs.
Thanks man :up:
Miss Webb
09-04-2007, 11:39 PM
I hope Kal-l pops out of a cloud and pimp slaps Prime upside his head. :word:
TheCorpulent1
09-05-2007, 08:29 AM
I just picked up and read the Sinestro Corps stuff with this title and GLC, and man am I loving it. Story has been enjoyable and the art is just so amazing. I'm debating about making this title a regular for me after this war is over.
Make GLC your ongoing if you're into the GL Corps as a whole. The Green Lantern comic is really only for people who are interested in Hal specifically.
The Leaguer
09-05-2007, 12:10 PM
The Green Lantern comic is really only for people who are interested in Hal specifically.
AKA, people with no taste.
TheCorpulent1
09-05-2007, 12:14 PM
Eloquently put.
To me Hal was more interesting as a fallen hero... bringing him back was like, you know,
telling you Anakin Skywalker actually never really turned evil but just manipulated by a entity of the dark side called Vader.
Glorious analogy...
But think, if Parallax wasn't a seperate entity, we'd never get Ion, the space whale!
But seriously, I kinda like Ion the space whale... he just makes the Ion concept so darn huggable.
Darthphere
09-05-2007, 12:39 PM
I weep....
TheCorpulent1
09-05-2007, 12:46 PM
Johns watched Star Trek IV way too many times. :(
Doc Destruction
09-05-2007, 01:29 PM
AKA, people with no taste.
Again, from the Zauriel fan. :whatever:
Personally digging both books atm. And I never thought I'd buy a GL comic to save my life.
MagicPrime
09-05-2007, 01:32 PM
I look forward to reading GL Corps a lot more than Green Lantern. Strangely enough, when Kyle was still the main GL I always looked forward to reading Green Lantern.... hmmmmmm. I wonder what that means.
fifthfiend
09-05-2007, 01:37 PM
Ion, the space whale!
Manatee!:cmad:
The Leaguer
09-05-2007, 01:52 PM
Again, from the Zauriel fan.
Normally I try not to flaunt my credentials, but I appreciate you hyping me up like that. Most people already know how awesome I am, but a lot of the newbs could use the help, so thank you for that.
TheCorpulent1
09-05-2007, 01:53 PM
Again, from the Zauriel fan. :whatever:
You say that like it means something. Zauriel was a fantastic character in Morrison and Millar's hands.
Doc Destruction
09-05-2007, 02:45 PM
I'm sure he appreciates all his fans. All both of you.
Doc Destruction
09-05-2007, 02:45 PM
Normally I try not to flaunt my credentials, but I appreciate you hyping me up like that. Most people already know how awesome I am, but a lot of the newbs could use the help, so thank you for that.
Aww, you're welcome sugar plum!
TheCorpulent1
09-05-2007, 02:51 PM
I'm sure he appreciates all his fans. All both of you.
Willingham seems to like him too, even if he has no idea how to properly characterize him.
yenaled
09-05-2007, 03:03 PM
I like old Zauriel.
I don't like Willingham's Zauriel though.
TheCorpulent1
09-05-2007, 03:05 PM
I don't think anyone could like Willingham's (or Gerber's from that Helmet of Fate tie-in) Zauriel. He's a dick.
The Leaguer
09-05-2007, 05:58 PM
Aww, you're welcome sugar plum!
You're goddamn right I am.
I like Willingham's Zauriel because he's Zauriel. He's finally back in the public light and hopefully a better writer who actually understands his personality will pick him up and return him to his former glory.
TheCorpulent1
09-05-2007, 07:31 PM
Nah, Zauriel's well and truly ****ed. It'll be, like, ten years before someone like you breaks into the industry and we're reading on Newsarama about how he always wanted to fix Zauriel after Willingham and Gerber catapulted him to popularity with the wrong personality.
yenaled
09-06-2007, 11:22 PM
From Atom #15, new Kyle costume.
http://www.thegreenlanterncorps.com/atom-kyle.jpg
I love how his apperance is after Green Lantern #26 but before Countdown #33.
Green Lantern #26 ships in December but Countdown #33 is next week. They really got this continuity down haven't they.
Tropico
09-06-2007, 11:27 PM
I don't think anyone could like Willingham's (or Gerber's from that Helmet of Fate tie-in) Zauriel. He's a dick.
I don't think he's portraying any of the characters right.:(
CaptainClown
09-06-2007, 11:28 PM
From Atom #15, new Kyle costume.
http://www.thegreenlanterncorps.com/atom-kyle.jpg
I love how his apperance is after Green Lantern #26 but before Countdown #33.
Green Lantern #26 ships in December but Countdown #33 is next week. They really got this continuity down haven't they.
Not bad, I still like the old one though.
MagicPrime
09-06-2007, 11:55 PM
From Atom #15, new Kyle costume.
http://www.thegreenlanterncorps.com/atom-kyle.jpg
I love how his apperance is after Green Lantern #26 but before Countdown #33.
Green Lantern #26 ships in December but Countdown #33 is next week. They really got this continuity down haven't they.
I like the new look, they brought back the "crab" mask. I'm curious to see where he fits in. Maybe he'll be a member of Honor Guard?
TheCorpulent1
09-07-2007, 12:00 AM
There are elements of the new costume that I like, but overall I think it's pretty lamentable. It somehow manages to take all of the good parts of his previous costumes, spit on them, and reconfigure them or completely omit them in favor of the most boring, pedestrian design ever. This is the best a guy who made a living as an artist could come up with? Parallax must've ****ed him up worse than we thought. :o
I don't think he's portraying any of the characters right.:(
That's what I've heard, but I didn't have much knowledge of any of the other Shadowpact characters before Shadowpact except Blue Devil, and he's basically got Blue Devil down pretty well. But now that Zauriel's in the mix, it's really obvious Willingham has no idea what Zauriel's all about. Gerber either, for that matter; Willingham's portrayal keeps with Gerber's Helmet of Fate portrayal. The problem is that Gerber's portrayal was all wrong for Zauriel. He's a millennia-old angel, likely wiser than everyone on Earth put together, yet he's not above the odd wisecrack here and there. The guy is not Heaven's perfect little soldier, either. He fell from Heaven for the sake of love and later had to sway the angels of Heaven to go against the status quo and help out in WWIII (the JLA arc, not the ****ty 52 event). The guy is the living embodiment of unorthodoxy.
MagicPrime
09-07-2007, 12:25 AM
Do you think all the talk from the Guardians about Kyle being "The next step in Green Lantern" was referring to him with Ion - or with just him and we assumed that they meant Ion. What if Kyle can still use the Starheart and Corebattery powers in conjunction he's just more in line of power with Alan Scott than Ion?
Ghostrider87
09-07-2007, 01:17 AM
GREEN LANTERN #23http://www.dccomics.com/images/spacer.gifhttp://www.dccomics.com/images/spacer.gifhttp://www.dccomics.com/images/spacer.gifhttp://www.dccomics.com/images/spacer.gif»
Written by Geoff Johns; Art and Cover by Ivan Reis and Oclair Albert
Fear spreads across the universe as "The Sinestro Corps War" continues! Hal Jordan! John Stewart! Guy Gardner! Kyle Rayner! Trapped in the depths of the Sinestro Corps' Citadel and face-to-face with the Guardian of Sinestro's army of fear! What it means will change the entire tide of the war. And as Oa prepares for the ultimate attack, the Guardians come to a terrifying conclusion.
Tropico
09-07-2007, 01:35 AM
That's what I've heard, but I didn't have much knowledge of any of the other Shadowpact characters before Shadowpact except Blue Devil, and he's basically got Blue Devil down pretty well. But now that Zauriel's in the mix, it's really obvious Willingham has no idea what Zauriel's all about. Gerber either, for that matter; Willingham's portrayal keeps with Gerber's Helmet of Fate portrayal. The problem is that Gerber's portrayal was all wrong for Zauriel. He's a millennia-old angel, likely wiser than everyone on Earth put together, yet he's not above the odd wisecrack here and there. The guy is not Heaven's perfect little soldier, either. He fell from Heaven for the sake of love and later had to sway the angels of Heaven to go against the status quo and help out in WWIII (the JLA arc, not the ****ty 52 event). The guy is the living embodiment of unorthodoxy.
I disagree on BD. Practically no one has known how to use him after his series ended. I didn't read the JLA version he was part of but I think he was just another bruiser there. Plus, I hate this whole subplot that he had a larger family and his brother messed it all up for them. It's stupid and I hope it's just more lies. And the "priest" that's giving him tasks? C'mon! Can he be more evil looking? I don't know much about Zauriel so...meh.
In regards to Kyle's costume...at least he didn't get the dog collar.:o
TheCorpulent1
09-07-2007, 08:41 AM
Yes, that is one of the improvements. I like that the ridge things on his shoulders have been reduced to just three green bars now, too.
As for Blue Devil, he's been a little more grim in Shadowpact, but I just chalk that up to the stuff going on between him and Hell at the moment. He's otherwise pretty laid back and casual about everything, which is how I remember him from his old series. I haven't read too much of his old series, though, so I could be wrong about that. More than anything, Willingham's BD seems like a blue Hellboy, to be honest. I'd be very skeptical if he claimed he weren't channeling Mignola when he writes BD.
Do you think all the talk from the Guardians about Kyle being "The next step in Green Lantern" was referring to him with Ion - or with just him and we assumed that they meant Ion. What if Kyle can still use the Starheart and Corebattery powers in conjunction he's just more in line of power with Alan Scott than Ion?
I get the impression that he's back to being just a regular GL because he's wearing a ring and he hasn't gotten the star field look again when he used his powers in this week's The All-New Atom. Whenever he used his recent Ion powers, the black parts of his costume and the shadows on his face would look like they were speckled with stars. But we haven't seen him do much, so who knows? Maybe he gets Ion back but channels the power through a new, specially made ring or something. I still think Sodam Yat will be Ion and Kyle will be just the Torchbearer and/or an Honor Guard Lantern by the time this whole ordeal is over.
Doc Destruction
09-07-2007, 09:17 AM
I love how his apperance is after Green Lantern #26 but before Countdown #33.
Green Lantern #26 ships in December but Countdown #33 is next week. They really got this continuity down haven't they.
Hey, thank God we got an editor's note. As long as they keep doing that, I'm okay with the order in which books come out.
MagicPrime
09-07-2007, 09:24 AM
Yes, that is one of the improvements. I like that the ridge things on his shoulders have been reduced to just three green bars now, too.
As for Blue Devil, he's been a little more grim in Shadowpact, but I just chalk that up to the stuff going on between him and Hell at the moment. He's otherwise pretty laid back and casual about everything, which is how I remember him from his old series. I haven't read too much of his old series, though, so I could be wrong about that. More than anything, Willingham's BD seems like a blue Hellboy, to be honest. I'd be very skeptical if he claimed he weren't channeling Mignola when he writes BD.
I get the impression that he's back to being just a regular GL because he's wearing a ring and he hasn't gotten the star field look again when he used his powers in this week's The All-New Atom. Whenever he used his recent Ion powers, the black parts of his costume and the shadows on his face would look like they were speckled with stars. But we haven't seen him do much, so who knows? Maybe he gets Ion back but channels the power through a new, specially made ring or something. I still think Sodam Yat will be Ion and Kyle will be just the Torchbearer and/or an Honor Guard Lantern by the time this whole ordeal is over.
My hope would be that he has some Starheart energy in him. Maybe his constructs look like they are on fire, like Alan's. And maybe he can operate independent of the Guardians. Pipe dreams I guess.
yenaled
09-07-2007, 09:33 AM
I actually don't like that he has White Gloves.
He's never had them before, he's not Hal.
TheCorpulent1
09-07-2007, 09:35 AM
John's current costume didn't have white gloves, either. It had green bracers. But now that the Corps has reformed, it seems the white gloves are standard practice. You can vary the style, but white gloves seem to be a part of the vast majority of Corps-affiliated GLs' costumes. I took Kyle's--and John's, for that matter--adoption of white gloves as a sign of their allegiance to the renewed Corps.
My hope would be that he has some Starheart energy in him. Maybe his constructs look like they are on fire, like Alan's. And maybe he can operate independent of the Guardians. Pipe dreams I guess.
Well, if his status within the Corps is the same as it was before Parallax took him over, he pretty much can operate independent of the Guardians. He was just the Torchbearer before, free to do whatever he wanted unless he reported in to the Guardians or Salakk and specifically requested orders. At least, that's the impression I got from The Rann/Thanagar War, GLC: Recharge, and Ion.
Darthphere
09-07-2007, 09:37 AM
I hate the fact that Kyle has gotten a demotion.
TheCorpulent1
09-07-2007, 09:38 AM
We don't know that he has yet. Unless you mean a demotion in power, in which case, yeah, that sucks. I liked him as Ion.
Darthphere
09-07-2007, 09:40 AM
We don't know that he has yet. Unless you mean a demotion in power, in which case, yeah, that sucks. I liked him as Ion.
Yeah, now he'll go down to Honor Guard or something. When just like 3 months ago, he was named Torchbearer.:csad:
yenaled
09-07-2007, 09:49 AM
Maybe it is necessary to get him into the GLC comic.
If it means Kyle actually being an active presence in the DCU, or a powerful guy in limbo. I'll take the activity.
Darthphere
09-07-2007, 09:51 AM
Maybe it is necessary to get him into the GLC comic.
If it means Kyle actually being an active presence in the DCU, or a powerful guy in limbo. I'll take the activity.
But why not both? Because Johns feels so insecure about Hal's standing as the greatest GL evah!?
yenaled
09-07-2007, 09:53 AM
Well, yeah. He obviously does.
I'd love Kyle to be actively a powerful Ion, but if that means Johns won't ever use him as he thinks it makes Hal look worse, then forget it. We all know Kyle is a better GL than Hal even without the power increase.
TheCorpulent1
09-07-2007, 10:01 AM
But why not both? Because Johns feels so insecure about Hal's standing as the greatest GL evah!?
Actually, Gibbons has been good about giving Johns' boy the finger in GLC. Guy Gardner outranks Hal now, and GLC as a whole is good at showing what an insignificant part of the organization one lone Green Lantern is (unless it's Mogo, natch). Still, I'd prefer if Kyle went back to just being the Torchbearer. He could still easily be in GLC by simply choosing to work with the Guardians. His status as the Torchbearer boiled down to basically the same as Guy's status as Honor Lantern 1 back in Recharge, after all; the only difference was that Kyle could choose whether he wanted to accept missions from the Guardians while Guy was just ordered to accept the missions.
MagicPrime
09-07-2007, 10:03 AM
So we get something like this:
Green Lantern Officer - Operate in their Assigned Sector
Honor Guard - "Special Forces" of the Corps, Assigned as Needed
"Torch Bearer" - Wandering Green Lantern, free to go and do anything so long as the Guardians don't need him presently.
I think as long as Kyle can basically Wander the Universe (especially now that he has lost pretty much all connection with earth - everyone is dead) I will atleast be somewhat appeased. But if they bump him to Honor Guard #2 or 2184.3 I will be PISSED.
yenaled
09-07-2007, 10:05 AM
That seemed to be what it is.
There is also the Corpse, a black-ops section of the GLC.
MagicPrime
09-07-2007, 10:11 AM
That seemed to be what it is.
There is also the Corpse, a black-ops section of the GLC.
Which consists of a changeling and a butterfly chick that now speaks like Yoda.
I guess we could put them in the list too.
TheCorpulent1
09-07-2007, 10:20 AM
I bet if the Corpse existed earlier, Raker Qarrigat would've been a member of it. :)
Anyway, the heirarchy of the new Corps, as I understand it, goes like this:
Guardians of the Universe
Torchbearer
Salakk
Kilowog
Corpse
Honor Guard
Sector Lanterns
Recruits
Darthphere
09-07-2007, 10:35 AM
Kyle. :(
TheCorpulent1
09-07-2007, 10:36 AM
I'm curious about where Ion will fit in if Kyle no longer has it. Will Soddam Yat take the place of Torchbearer? That doesn't seem to make sense, since it was still Kyle who bore the torch while the Corps was destroyed.
BrianWilly
09-07-2007, 10:42 AM
Oddly, Kyle is still referred-to as "Ion" in the All-New Atom (you can see it in the pic in the last page, though the text is pretty small). Either it's still his title by the end of all this or Simone didn't quite get the memo yet. To be sure, it's Ryan Choi who refers to him this way, and Ryan just tends to not get memos in general.
Heheheh. "Ion" and "Atom" ohgod I need to draw teh fanart RITE NOW.
Anyway (since I'm guessing most of you haven't read it), Kyle is seen making portals with his ring leading to other dimensions (through the Bleed, permaybehaps?), so it seems like he's either still somewhat powerful or he has a ring especially programmed to travel through the multiverse.
TheCorpulent1
09-07-2007, 10:45 AM
Yeah, his Lantern emblem has a black background, too. That wouldn't strike me as a big deal, really, except I'm pretty sure literally every other GL in the Corps has a Lantern emblem with a white background. So it's possible that he's still Ion and he just decided to use a much worse costume this time around.
Darthphere
09-07-2007, 10:46 AM
Yeah, his Lantern emblem has a black background, too. That wouldn't strike me as a big deal, really, except I'm pretty sure literally every other GL in the Corps has a Lantern emblem with a white background. So it's possible that he's still Ion and he just decided to use a much worse costume this time around.
Or a consistently bad one. Considering no one ever got the last symbol right.
TheCorpulent1
09-07-2007, 10:50 AM
No, that was just a consistent stream of inconsistent artists. Tocchini himself never drew the Ion symbol the same way twice. But look at Reis' drawings of Ion and tell me that costume doesn't look awesome.
Also, I'm probably more upset than I should be that Kyle's new costume has no glowing parts. It's an awesome element that Kyle innovated. The guy invented the glowing Lantern symbol and now every other GL has one when they use their powers (or when they're just standing around, if Van Sciver draws them), but Kyle doesn't? Weak bloody sauce.
Darthphere
09-07-2007, 10:51 AM
I'm tired of this really. DC is trying the "We're ****ing up Kyle in every imaginable way, but now he'll have more exposure so you'll see more of him!" card.
TheCorpulent1
09-07-2007, 11:03 AM
I'm still hopeful. We don't know what role he's playing in his ****ty new suit, just that he'll be world-hopping alongside Donna Troy (yay), Jason Todd (bleh), and Monitor-Bob (more tolerable than the non-Bob Monitors, at least). That concept is basically a one-to-one rip-off of the Exiles about 7 years late, but it's still a decent concept. If Kyle is still Ion, I'll even excuse the god-awful costume.
I really wish Ryan were allowed to stay with them. I was actually starting to like him enough that I wouldn't mind if he stuck around after Ray is eventually found. There could always be two Atoms, or maybe Ryan could become the All-New Isotope or something.
BrianWilly
09-07-2007, 11:04 AM
Neutrino.
No, seriously; that's from this latest issue.
TheCorpulent1
09-07-2007, 11:15 AM
Neutrino.
No, seriously; that's from this latest issue.
http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v71/thecorpulent1/Neutrinos.jpg
:confused:
BrianWilly
09-07-2007, 11:22 AM
In detail: one of the characters/villains in the series who supposedly knew Ray Palmer tries to trick Ryan into thinking that Ray was a bit demented and only gave Ryan the belt because he wanted Ryan to be his sidekick named Neutrino. Well, I shouldn't say "tries to," because Ryan is a bit of a dumbass and actually falls for it for real.
Anubis
09-07-2007, 11:27 AM
I dig the new suit. Looks good. Got the Crab mask, and lots of elements of other costumes I like.
TheCorpulent1
09-07-2007, 11:27 AM
No comment on the hilarious Ninja Turtles image? Really?
:(
BrianWilly
09-07-2007, 11:29 AM
Well, there's no flying car.
TheCorpulent1
09-07-2007, 11:30 AM
Google failed me. :(
Anubis
09-07-2007, 11:34 AM
I was gonna say something about how awesome it was to see the Neutrinos again, but I forgot.
Miss Webb
09-07-2007, 12:41 PM
Some nice links for GL fans:
http://herochat.com/forum/index.php/topic,131181.msg2107371.html
alan scott respect thread.
and kyle:
http://www.comicboards.com/comicbattles/view.php?trd=050607042331
http://www.comicboards.com/comicbattles/view.php?rpl=050607042430
TheCorpulent1
09-07-2007, 12:59 PM
Sweet, I love the respect threads. :up:
I was gonna say something about how awesome it was to see the Neutrinos again, but I forgot.
You missed your shot at being awesome, then. :(
blake
09-07-2007, 07:06 PM
I don't kow about Kyle's new costume... well, it's ok but nothing specials, looks like a regular GL uniform.
I just wish they wouldn't have given his old mask, doesn't fit with the new costume.
TheCorpulent1
09-07-2007, 07:08 PM
I like the crab mask. It makes Kyle's face about as expressive as a lump of coal, but it's still cool.
GoldenAgeHero
09-09-2007, 12:22 AM
http://www.newsarama.com/dcnew/Sept07/previews/9_12previews_5.jpg
http://www.newsarama.com/dcnew/Sept07/previews/9_12previews_6.jpg
http://www.newsarama.com/dcnew/Sept07/previews/9_12previews_7.jpg
http://www.newsarama.com/dcnew/Sept07/previews/9_12previews_8.jpghttp://www.newsarama.com/dcnew/Sept07/previews/9_12previews_9.jpg
http://www.newsarama.com/dcnew/Sept07/previews/9_12previews_10.jpg
looking great so far.
TheCorpulent1
09-09-2007, 11:27 AM
Wow, Hal's family is even more boring than he is. :dry:
The stuff that actually matters looks good, though. Reis' art is great, as always. John sounds like a tool, but Guy looks and sounds awesome, so it's okay.
GoldenAgeHero
09-09-2007, 11:58 AM
Wow, Hal's family is even more boring than he is. :dry:
The stuff that actually matters looks good, though. Reis' art is great, as always. John sounds like a tool, but Guy looks and sounds awesome, so it's okay.
how are they boring?
TheCorpulent1
09-09-2007, 12:00 PM
Because they're related to Hal. Try to keep up. :o
The Leaguer
09-09-2007, 12:00 PM
Rocked.
GoldenAgeHero
09-09-2007, 12:08 PM
Because they're related to Hal. Try to keep up. :o
weak, i thought you hadsomething better.
It looks like the Earth GL trinity is about to kick some serous ass.
TheCorpulent1
09-09-2007, 12:13 PM
There is no Earth GL trinity, dude. There's a duo getting help from a superior officer. Hal and John = 2814 sector Lanterns, Guy = Honor Lantern 1 and, therefore, their superior.
weak, i thought you hadsomething better.
Relation to Hal is the best reason for being boring ever.
The Leaguer
09-09-2007, 12:14 PM
i thought you handsome
Awwwwwwwwwwwwwwww! :heart:
yenaled
09-09-2007, 12:35 PM
GLC news (http://forum.newsarama.com/showthread.php?t=128648): New writer :( But he's a great writer. So I'm being positive.
one major difference is that Kyle will be a major part of the book from here on in as was originally planned when I launched Corps with Geoff, Dave, and Patrick Gleason back in GL Corps Recharge. We had to pull Kyle out back then due to some major DCU event, but now he's back where he belongs, partnered up with Guy and getting on each others nerves.
Looks like Kyle is an Honour Guard.
TheCorpulent1
09-09-2007, 12:36 PM
Eh, I can live with him as an Honor Lantern. I suspect he'll still be regarded as the Torchbearer and just basically function as an Honor Lantern anyway. At least he's not some lowly sector Lantern like Hal. :)
yenaled
09-09-2007, 12:43 PM
I was petrified that Kyle was going to be demoted to a lowly beat Lantern but Honour Guard is basically the Torchbearer (just with orders). Kyle and Guy are a great dynamic too.
TheCorpulent1
09-09-2007, 01:10 PM
For all we know, Kyle could be Torchbearer again and just be choosing to report in to the Guardians and accept missions again, just as he did in the Ion mini. Only other things he could do, really, are return to Earth, where he has practically no connections anymore, or fly through space doing nothing.
blake
09-09-2007, 01:11 PM
I like the idea, you should be interesting to see them team up.
The Leaguer
09-09-2007, 01:21 PM
I either want Ion or I want his Jim Lee-designed costume back.
TheCorpulent1
09-09-2007, 01:27 PM
I don't know about Ion, but you're almost, kinda/sorta getting the Lee costume back. Not as good, but closer to that than any other.
I like the idea, you should be interesting to see them team up.
I'm always interesting.
The Leaguer
09-09-2007, 01:27 PM
You should be.
TheCorpulent1
09-09-2007, 01:31 PM
Which is why I am.
The Leaguer
09-09-2007, 01:32 PM
But you should be.
TheCorpulent1
09-09-2007, 01:34 PM
I should be a lot of things.
The Leaguer
09-09-2007, 01:37 PM
Most of all, interesting.
TheCorpulent1
09-09-2007, 01:39 PM
Yes.
The Leaguer
09-09-2007, 01:40 PM
blake things so, too.
TheCorpulent1
09-09-2007, 01:44 PM
blake things so, too.
I wasn't aware "thing" had become a verb.
The Leaguer
09-09-2007, 01:48 PM
blake told me.
TheCorpulent1
09-09-2007, 01:50 PM
He should be interesting to see him explain that.
The Leaguer
09-09-2007, 01:50 PM
I thing so, too.
TheCorpulent1
09-09-2007, 01:55 PM
The circle is complete.
The Leaguer
09-09-2007, 01:56 PM
Shut up, George Lucas.
TheCorpulent1
09-09-2007, 01:58 PM
Rafiki, mother****er. :cmad:
blake
09-09-2007, 04:29 PM
He should be interesting to see him explain that.
Nothing to explain... you're just interesting
GoldenAgeHero
09-09-2007, 04:53 PM
http://www.newsarama.com/dcnew/Baltimore_07/TSCCSM_Cv1.jpg
http://www.newsarama.com/dcnew/Baltimore_07/TSCPar_Cv1.jpg
cool covers.
CaptainClown
09-09-2007, 04:59 PM
Does anyone else like the Kyle Rayner Parllax (forgive my misspelling) ?
GoldenAgeHero
09-09-2007, 05:36 PM
i do
I think the design on Kyle is neat but the idea is ****errifc.
CaptainClown
09-09-2007, 05:53 PM
I have some awesome pictures of Parllax that I want to scan. He just looks crazy in some of em.
CaptainClown
09-09-2007, 10:56 PM
it is rather low on my priority list right now
TheCorpulent1
09-10-2007, 08:55 AM
Does anyone else like the Kyle Rayner Parllax (forgive my misspelling) ?
I like the fact that he's been kicking Hal's ass. That's about it.
Doc Destruction
09-10-2007, 09:21 AM
Kyle fanboyism is as annoying as Hal fanboyism I swear lol.
TheCorpulent1
09-10-2007, 09:23 AM
It's not Kyle fanboyism. I'd enjoy watching anyone kick Hal's ass. :)
MagicPrime
09-10-2007, 09:36 AM
It's not Kyle fanboyism. I'd enjoy watching anyone kick Hal's ass. :)
'tis true
Doc Destruction
09-10-2007, 10:01 AM
Okay then...REVERSE Hal fanboyism is annoying too ;)
TheCorpulent1
09-10-2007, 10:12 AM
Nah, it's necessary. We're just a reaction to all of the Hal fanboys who whined for 20 years while Kyle surpassed Hal in every way except douchebaggery. Now it's the Hal fans' turn to put up with us. Besides, Hal's clearly the premiere GL of the DC universe again and, so long as Johns and Waid and Tomasi and all the other Silver Age lovers are in charge, he'll stay that way; what does the Kyle fanboys' *****ing really matter? The Hal fans won the war, so suck it up and leave the Kyle fans what little satisfaction we can get. :o
GoldenAgeHero
09-10-2007, 10:34 AM
Nah, it's necessary. We're just a reaction to all of the Hal fanboys who whined for 20 years while Kyle surpassed Hal in every way except douchebaggery. Now it's the Hal fans' turn to put up with us. Besides,Hal's clearly the premiere GL of the DC universe again and, so long as Johns and Waid and Tomasi and all the other Silver Age lovers are in charge, he'll stay that way; what does the Kyle fanboys' *****ing really matter? The Hal fans won the war, so suck it up and leave the Kyle fans what little satisfaction we can get. :o
I'll buy that for a dollar!
TheCorpulent1
09-10-2007, 10:48 AM
Yes, hurray for creators with taste as bad as yours. :up:
CaptainClown
09-10-2007, 10:51 AM
Well i dunno if I qualify as a fanboy I just thought he was pretty cool, just wanted to hear a reaction from real good fans of green lantern.
MagicPrime
09-10-2007, 11:16 AM
So once we get all the lanterns and rings of varying colors together?
What's going to happen? Even the star sapphires are going to rings from what I saw.
Miss Webb
09-10-2007, 11:21 AM
HOO HAH! Another Kyle Vs Hal war! Let's get it started like its 1994!
Kyle stinks/is better
Hal stinks/is better
No, Hallax is better than Kylellax. But this is because Kyle's good isn't as good as Hal's good, but Hal's bad is better than Kyle's bad, making Kyle's new bad almost as good as Hal's OLD bad. Now if Kyles good becomes better than Hal's good, then that ain't bad, unless Kyle's bad becomes better than Hal's bad ever was. Which may be good or bad, I'm not certain. :wow:
MagicPrime
09-10-2007, 11:25 AM
HOO HAH! Another Kyle Vs Hal war! Let's get it started like its 1994!
Kyle stinks/is better
Hal stinks/is better
No, Hallax is better than Kylellax. But this is because Kyle's good isn't as good as Hal's good, but Hal's bad is better than Kyle's bad, making Kyle's new bad almost as good as Hal's OLD bad. Now if Kyles good becomes better than Hal's good, then that ain't bad, unless Kyle's bad becomes better than Hal's bad ever was. Which may be good or bad, I'm not certain. :wow:
http://www.fscwv.edu/users/jfairchild/facepalm.jpg
TheCorpulent1
09-10-2007, 11:25 AM
Kyle's good blows Hal's good out of the water. Badly.
So once we get all the lanterns and rings of varying colors together?
What's going to happen? Even the star sapphires are going to rings from what I saw.
Obviously, they're either going to form Voltron, create Captain Planet, or get their **** jacked by the Mandarin.
yenaled
09-10-2007, 11:27 AM
They will make WHITE the "colour" of harmony or some bull****.
Miss Webb
09-10-2007, 11:30 AM
Yes, hurray for creators with taste as bad as yours. :up:
Bad taste is 'in'. It's the new black of 2007. :woot:
I propose an adult series of GL...perhaps something even FOX network can't handle.
TheCorpulent1
09-10-2007, 11:31 AM
They will make WHITE the "colour" of harmony or some bull****.
If Johns understands the difference between pigment and light waves, he'll make white the color of unity or the precursor to all the other color things.
Tropico
09-10-2007, 11:52 AM
http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v661/DDude/Alan.jpg
MagicPrime
09-10-2007, 11:54 AM
http://www.fscwv.edu/users/jfairchild/wtf.jpg
TheCorpulent1
09-10-2007, 12:00 PM
http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v661/DDude/Alan.jpg
Cool scene, but I really wish he hadn't gone back to limiting himself the way a GL ring does.
MagicPrime
09-10-2007, 12:59 PM
Does anyone have that older frame where Kyle and Alan are standing in the field and all the fire and smoke are coming off Alan's hands?
TheCorpulent1
09-10-2007, 01:52 PM
Do you know what issue it was from?
MagicPrime
09-10-2007, 04:09 PM
Nay, it was an older Kyle issue - he was still in his original uniform. I believe the cover had both Kyle and Alan flying over a city-scape.
TheCorpulent1
09-10-2007, 04:40 PM
Nay, it was an older Kyle issue - he was still in his original uniform. I believe the cover had both Kyle and Alan flying over a city-scape.
This one?
http://image.milehighcomics.com/istore/images/fullsize/37139544386.140.GIF
Miss Webb
09-10-2007, 05:08 PM
I'm gonna see if I can scan some 'young' Alan pics for comparison. He was quite...tasty.
Hopefully Alan can reclaim a lil' bit of his bad...that would be good. And then no one would care about Kyle's good being better than Hal's bad, or Hal's bad being better than Kyle's good. Which ain't too bad in my opinion.
MagicPrime
09-10-2007, 08:56 PM
I think that was the issue - but the "scene" takes place in the comic. Alan and Kyle have a sparring match in the middle of an open field and it ends with Alan hitting Kyle with a big green boxing glove. But that is definatly my favorite Alan - fire on the fists and tons of power.
TheCorpulent1
09-11-2007, 08:30 AM
I'm gonna see if I can scan some 'young' Alan pics for comparison. He was quite...tasty.
Hopefully Alan can reclaim a lil' bit of his bad...that would be good. And then no one would care about Kyle's good being better than Hal's bad, or Hal's bad being better than Kyle's good. Which ain't too bad in my opinion.
You're really enjoying that joke, aren't you?
MagicPrime
09-11-2007, 11:00 AM
I'm gonna see if I can scan some 'young' Alan pics for comparison. He was quite...tasty.
Hopefully Alan can reclaim a lil' bit of his bad...that would be good. And then no one would care about Kyle's good being better than Hal's bad, or Hal's bad being better than Kyle's good. Which ain't too bad in my opinion.
http://www.fscwv.edu/users/jfairchild/palm.gif
MagicPrime
09-11-2007, 12:47 PM
http://www.fscwv.edu/users/jfairchild/glme.jpg
Does that make me look like a Green Lantern?
TheCorpulent1
09-11-2007, 12:48 PM
It makes you look like a fan of Photoshop. ;)
MagicPrime
09-11-2007, 12:49 PM
4 Years of college and a BS in Graphic Design has to get me something >_<
Miss Webb
09-11-2007, 04:55 PM
You're really enjoying that joke, aren't you?
I guess I've been "bad" again. :woot:
I plan to pull a few isshes out of the old archives and see what interesting things I can scan of Alan in his younger mode. BTW, Kyle's post Kyllalax costume looks pretty dull to me.
TheCorpulent1
09-11-2007, 05:02 PM
Me, too. It takes elements from all the costumes but lacks their pizzazz.
Scans of Alan at any age = good. :up:
Tropico
09-11-2007, 09:21 PM
Preview at Newsarama. (http://www.newsarama.com/dcnew/Sept07/previews/19th.html)
yenaled
09-11-2007, 09:27 PM
Hooray for Ron writing Kyle.
Ultra-Herald9
09-12-2007, 03:28 AM
I wonder if this "alternate Kyle" is gonna be a new one or just Kyle in this dudes body.
BrianWilly
09-12-2007, 06:02 AM
Uh, it's Kyle in his own body. The room represents him being trapped in his own mind.
I'm hopeful about this, but not optimistic in the least. I'm really not interested in 32 more pages of Kyle whining and whining and whining about how much DC has fcked him up. Get over it and have good stories again already, Christ.
Doc Destruction
09-12-2007, 08:09 AM
You realize that if Kyle busts out of his own mind and beats Parallax, then he's stronger than Hal, right? That's probably going to happen.
There, now all the Hal haters can wet themselves with glee.
TheCorpulent1
09-12-2007, 09:22 AM
I doubt that's how it'll go down. Hal will probably make some kind of impassioned plea that will force Kyle to think of how awesome Hal is and how Hal would get out of the situation, then draw on deep reserves of strength and willpower he never even knew he had--we'll call those "the Hal reserves," since that's probably how Johns would think of them--and boom, he busts out of Parallax's control and reclaims his old ring, free of Parallax or Ion's or any other retarded space creature's control!!!!
All because Hal's words were able to cut through Parallax's veil and get to Kyle, unlike all of Kyle's impassioned pleas to Hal while Hal was Parallax. Oh, and the last page of the crossover, of course, has "Hurray for Hal!" scrawled on it in big, green letters. :up:
MagicPrime
09-12-2007, 09:35 AM
Its almost like Corp is some kind of Oracle....:wow:
yenaled
09-12-2007, 09:37 AM
Or maybe... he is Johns? :wow: !
Shocking report at 10!
TheCorpulent1
09-12-2007, 09:43 AM
I am, in fact, not Johns. I actually ate Johns and have been channeling him uncontrollably ever since. This is the wellspring of my rage.
GoldenAgeHero
09-12-2007, 09:58 AM
I doubt that's how it'll go down. Hal will probably make some kind of impassioned plea that will force Kyle to think of how awesome Hal is and how Hal would get out of the situation, then draw on deep reserves of strength and willpower he never even knew he had--we'll call those "the Hal reserves," since that's probably how Johns would think of them--and boom, he busts out of Parallax's control and reclaims his old ring, free of Parallax or Ion's or any other retarded space creature's control!!!!
All because Hal's words were able to cut through Parallax's veil and get to Kyle, unlike all of Kyle's impassioned pleas to Hal while Hal was Parallax. Oh, and the last page of the crossover, of course, has "Hurray for Hal!" scrawled on it in big, green letters. :up:
you should write teh(yeah i know) issue!
TheCorpulent1
09-12-2007, 10:08 AM
It'd be better than what Johns comes up with. :oldrazz:
BrianWilly
09-12-2007, 10:19 AM
You realize that if Kyle busts out of his own mind and beats Parallax, then he's stronger than Hal, right? That's probably going to happen.Or he was already stronger than Hal in the first place because, when faced with the same exact temptations maybe...oh, five or six times ago in the past...he already overcame them and "beat" the Parallax power time and time again.
All of which is irrelevant, anyway; what Kyle is going through here is completely, completely dissimilar to what Hal went through in the past. Hal was not stuck in a room in his mind or some such nonsense. He was fully in-control of his actions and let his griefy rage overwhelm him.
But now, thanks to Johns, Parallax was the one doing everything and Hal was just stuck in his own head, which means that he never did anything bad and was still Teh Greatest Evar!
Miss Webb
09-12-2007, 04:45 PM
You realize that if Kyle busts out of his own mind and beats Parallax, then he's stronger than Hal, right? That's probably going to happen.
There, now all the Hal haters can wet themselves with glee.
Not really sure. Hallax seemed more like a composite personality where Hal seemed to be evident. Kylellax seems like a shell with Parallax's personality in control. Different deal.
Wonder who the mysterious visitor in Kyle's mind is?
LadyVader
09-12-2007, 04:50 PM
I think it's Ron Marz.
TheCorpulent1
09-12-2007, 04:58 PM
lolz, metafiction ftw!
I think it's Jade. A manifestation of the power she left him or something.
LadyVader
09-12-2007, 05:00 PM
Makes sense. Who else could mindf@#k him if not Jade?
Miss Webb
09-12-2007, 05:06 PM
Donna Troy, maybe?
ANYTHING but his mother's head in an ice box...:wow:
TheCorpulent1
09-12-2007, 05:12 PM
What about Alex's arm in an icebox? ;)
Actually, that's not a bad idea; maybe it's his mom, Alex, Jade, and everyone else he's cared about who's fallen victim to his lifestyle. That's what Parallax used to get in, stupid though it was, so maybe Kyle draws on the understanding that they knew what they were getting when they chose to love him to expel Parallax or something.
Makes sense. Who else could mindf@#k him if not Jade?
Ouch, I see the subject is still sore among some Kyle fans even years after that ho's death.
LadyVader
09-12-2007, 05:19 PM
I actually have nothing against her but hey... when in Rome. :)
Seriously though. I believe characters act the way writers want them to act. If Jade was written as a ****** it certainly is not the character's fault, and people tend to forget that sometimes.
TheCorpulent1
09-12-2007, 07:35 PM
Well, she was pretty much always portrayed as an ungrateful whore. The fact that Kyle came back to Earth to find her banging some other dude in his apartment was just the icing on the cake, really.
yenaled
09-12-2007, 08:15 PM
Brainwave should visit Kyle.
Yes, he should.
Dr. Fate
09-12-2007, 10:35 PM
Maybe for their next trick they'll turn Alan Scott into the new Parallax once Kyle's done being Parallax, thus giving us Allanax.
CaptainClown
09-12-2007, 10:36 PM
Old school parllax
Miss Webb
09-12-2007, 11:11 PM
Maybe for their next trick they'll turn Alan Scott into the new Parallax once Kyle's done being Parallax, thus giving us Allanax.
*bursts stuff laughing*
that's good...but only a young Alan. He could pull it off anyway, being a being of chaos and wild magic.
BTW, the original plot for REBIRTH was the temptation of Alan by the Starheart. Editorial decisions changed it later to Hal and Parallax. Then Kyle and Parallax.
That temptation may still come to pass, too. The 'other' Harlequin mystery was never solved.
Miss Webb
09-12-2007, 11:12 PM
Me, too. It takes elements from all the costumes but lacks their pizzazz.
Scans of Alan at any age = good. :up:
Kyle's post Parallax look is as bland as mayo on white toast.
MagicPrime
09-13-2007, 12:29 AM
Well, she was pretty much always portrayed as an ungrateful whore. The fact that Kyle came back to Earth to find her banging some other dude in his apartment was just the icing on the cake, really.
Jade was a *****. I lol'd when Kyle threw the guy back in the bathroom when he and Jade were fighting.
yenaled
09-13-2007, 08:13 AM
I hope Kyle tears the heads of all of Hal's family and eats their skin.
TheCorpulent1
09-13-2007, 09:25 AM
Yeah, why not? It'll all be wiped off the slate later anyway. :up:
WompuM
09-13-2007, 09:53 AM
I guess the big fear demon eats the part of his brain that makes up creative costumes.
TheCorpulent1
09-13-2007, 10:18 AM
Haha, his new costume totally blows.
MagicPrime
09-13-2007, 11:57 AM
Yeah, why not? It'll all be wiped off the slate later anyway. :up:
Nah, Johns will probably have Kyle eternally dammed because he's not Hal, and the Kyle we've seen is just a permanent construct Hal has made in Kyle's former honor.
TheCorpulent1
09-13-2007, 12:18 PM
I wouldn't put it past him.
GoldenAgeHero
09-13-2007, 02:34 PM
that'll be painfully hilarious.
TheCorpulent1
09-13-2007, 02:38 PM
Kyle's ****ty new costume is hilarious enough. Don't get greedy.
MagicPrime
09-13-2007, 03:18 PM
Kyle's ****ty new costume is hilarious enough. Don't get greedy.
Anyone who can draw:
Try drawing Kyle in an Alan-Scot-ish attire with a trench coat instead of a Cape. With a big burning Lantern on his chest.
TheCorpulent1
09-13-2007, 03:23 PM
Sounds like something to do for the night. :up:
GoldenAgeHero
09-16-2007, 12:03 PM
http://www.newsarama.com/dcnew/Dec07/GL_26_Cvr_Solicit.jpg
GREEN LANTERN #26
Written by Geoff Johns
Art by Mike McKone & Andy Lanning
Cover by Ivan Reis & Oclair Albert
Setting the stage for the Green Lanterns' role in FINAL CRISIS comes Part 1 of "The Alpha Lanterns," a new story arc written by Geoff Johns with art by Mike McKone (TEEN TITANS)! Who are the Alpha-Lanterns? What bizarre cosmic surgery have they undergone? And how will they affect the future of the Green Lantern Corps?
In the aftermath of the Sinestro Corps War, the Green Lanterns are undergoing an unprecedented reconstruction and reinvention, and the controversial Alpha-Lantern project is in full effect.
Meanwhile, with Sinestro's true machinations for his war revealed to Earth's prime Green Lanterns, Hal Jordan and John Stewart, debate rages across Oa as lines are drawn and crossed, new bonds are formed, and old ones broken.
On sale December 26 • 32 pg, FC, $2.99 US
CaptainCanada
09-16-2007, 12:05 PM
The cover is a mirror of #21, with Hal and co. instead of Sinestro and his minions.
Ugh, Countdown finally gets it's grubby fingers on the title, in preparation for Final Crisis.
TheCorpulent1
09-16-2007, 12:42 PM
GOD, Ion looks more stupid every time I see that retarded thing. :(
Where the **** are Kyle and Guy, too? Goddamn useless cover.
The Leaguer
09-16-2007, 12:46 PM
The coloring on that cover is bad to legendary proportions. I hope that isn't the final version.
TheCorpulent1
09-16-2007, 12:47 PM
Of course it's the final version. Look at the background: there are Photoshop swirlies.
The Leaguer
09-16-2007, 12:48 PM
That doesn't mean it's final. There was that Infinite Crisis cover Jim Lee drew of Power Girl with blue Photoshop rings in the background that wasn't the final cover. At least that cover was colored well.
TheCorpulent1
09-16-2007, 12:49 PM
Photoshop. ****ing. Swirlies. :cmad:
CaptainCanada
09-16-2007, 12:56 PM
Where the **** are Kyle and Guy, too?
Green Lantern Corps.
TheCorpulent1
09-16-2007, 01:02 PM
Yeah, I didn't notice that it was the start of the first post-Sinestro Corps War arc. But why's Ion all host-free in Hal's book, then? I thought Sodam Yat was becoming the new Ion and hanging around in GLC. :confused:
The Leaguer
09-16-2007, 01:04 PM
When did you hear that?
yenaled
09-16-2007, 01:05 PM
Kyle was still called Ion in Atom. Though that could be a mistake on Gail's part.
CaptainCanada
09-16-2007, 01:07 PM
Yeah, I didn't notice that it was the start of the first post-Sinestro Corps War arc. But why's Ion all host-free in Hal's book, then? I thought Sodam Yat was becoming the new Ion and hanging around in GLC. :confused:
Parallax appeared on #21 when he was inside Kyle; it's symbolic.
The Leaguer
09-16-2007, 01:07 PM
I figured it was that new Asian guy recognizing Kyle but not realizing his "demotion."
TheCorpulent1
09-16-2007, 01:09 PM
Kyle was still called Ion in Atom. Though that could be a mistake on Gail's part.
I figured it was that new Asian guy recognizing Kyle but not realizing his "demotion."
Me, too. Ryan recognized Kyle as Ion, but he wouldn't necessarily know about goings-on from the Sinestro Corps crossover.
yenaled
09-16-2007, 01:27 PM
Yeah, that makes sense.
The last issue of Green Lantern showed that it doesn't look like he will be Ion soon, but still "The Torchbearer".
The Leaguer
09-16-2007, 01:28 PM
I would prefer if Johns didn't look like he would be Green Lantern writer soon.
SouLeSS
09-16-2007, 01:54 PM
who was the guy fighting kilowag in the last issue of GLC? the one that looks basically like an evil kilowag
The Leaguer
09-16-2007, 01:56 PM
"Kilowog."
yenaled
09-16-2007, 02:00 PM
I would prefer if Johns didn't look like he would be Green Lantern writer soon.
So say we all.
Upset Spideyfan
09-16-2007, 02:55 PM
who was the guy fighting kilowag in the last issue of GLC? the one that looks basically like an evil kilowag
Arkillo, I think his name is.
The Leaguer
09-16-2007, 02:56 PM
Isn't "upset spideyfan" redundant?
Upset Spideyfan
09-16-2007, 03:00 PM
Yes. Yes it is.
SouLeSS
09-16-2007, 04:32 PM
"Kilowog."
I know, force of habbit.
edit; Thanks for the name. GTotta tell you, that guys one of the coolest looking villians I've seen in a while. Matches up wiht Kilowag good.
TheCorpulent1
09-16-2007, 04:46 PM
Probably because he's a clone of Kilowog with sharper teeth.
SouLeSS
09-16-2007, 04:49 PM
Exactly why he's awesome. How can you not like an evil Kilowag
TheCorpulent1
09-16-2007, 04:55 PM
Because he's totally unoriginal? :confused:
SouLeSS
09-16-2007, 05:27 PM
So what? He's a badass.
Tropico
09-16-2007, 07:51 PM
Who's Kilowag? Kilowog's long lost cousin that has a vestigial tail and shakes his ass a lot?:confused:
CaptainClown
09-16-2007, 07:54 PM
I haven't read many green Lantern comics and I have a question what kind of things does Green Lantern Rot Lop Fan (F-Sharp Bell) make with his power ring?
SouLeSS
09-16-2007, 08:24 PM
Who's Kilowag? Kilowog's long lost cousin that has a vestigial tail and shakes his ass a lot?:confused:
Yes
hippie_hunter
09-16-2007, 08:30 PM
I would prefer if Johns didn't look like he would be Green Lantern writer soon.
Considering how freaking awesome the Sinestro Corps War is, I'll say HELL NO to Johns leaving.
Considering how freaking awesome the Sinestro Corps War is, I'll say HELL NO to Johns leaving.
Even though in the process of this so called "awesomeness" he has completely ruined a great character, that is Kyle Rayner?
The Leaguer
09-17-2007, 02:49 AM
Considering how freaking awesome the Sinestro Corps War is, I'll say HELL NO to Johns leaving.
Funny joke.
LadyVader
09-17-2007, 03:36 AM
I just read Green lantern 23 and while I can appreciate how big the Sinestro War is getting I cannot really enjoy this series because of how incredibly wrong this whole Kylelax thing is. In this issue Johns really tops himself by having Kylelax say: "I was the last Green Lantern. I was special. I will be special again"
Is Johns utterly retarded? Does he know nothing about Kyle? He never, never wanted to be alone. He never wanted to be special. Kyle always knew that he got that ring by accident. So he tried to make good of it. That is it. He knew he wasn't destined to be a superhero, and he even tried to recreate the the Green Lantern Corps... more than once! If he wanted to be special so badly why did give up the Ion power the first time around so he could restore Oa?!
How dare Johns have Parallax say crap like that and try to make us believe it's actually Kyle. This is so frustrating. Oh, and now he has him threatening little kids. Yeah, classy.
Aw, and Hal Jordan saying that diamond rings and vows are the real nightmares. Jesus, you're a grown-ass man. Start acting like it.
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