The Official Green Lantern Thread

[LadyVader]

It was resolved really, really badly.

Oh, I'm so glad I'm not the only who thinks that way. Horrible ending, but I suppose Johns needed to prove to everyone that Hal's redemption is complete, which kinda sucks. :(

[Assassin]

marz had the best run

[TheCorpulent1]

Oh, I'm so glad I'm not the only who thinks that way. Horrible ending, but I suppose Johns needed to prove to everyone that Hal's redemption is complete, which kinda sucks. :(
Finally. Thanks, I thought I was gonna be the lone naysayer around here.

[Antitang]

Wow the plants in Green Lantern Issue #7 are the coolest things ive seen in a long time.

Called Black Mercy Parasitic Plants.
Point of Origin: Space Sector 2811
"Parasite feeds off host's bio-e;ectric aura until organism dies.
Usually attaches itself to host with main roots while needle-like vines enter the skin and fuse with the nervous system. Pleassure centers of brain are flooded with nano-spores creating a lifelike fantasy in perfect conjunction with host;s desiires, leaving it unaware of any danger."

Creepy but utterly sweet.

Did Mongul bring the plants with him? and will we ever know what Mongul's plan was after he has GL and Green Arrow trapped at the plants mercy?

[Anubis]

Best use of the Black Mercy: Alan Moores' For the man who has everything.

[Tamanon]

Wow the plants in Green Lantern Issue #7 are the coolest things ive seen in a long time.

Called Black Mercy Parasitic Plants.
Point of Origin: Space Sector 2811
"Parasite feeds off host's bio-e;ectric aura until organism dies.
Usually attaches itself to host with main roots while needle-like vines enter the skin and fuse with the nervous system. Pleassure centers of brain are flooded with nano-spores creating a lifelike fantasy in perfect conjunction with host;s desiires, leaving it unaware of any danger."

Creepy but utterly sweet.

Did Mongul bring the plants with him? and will we ever know what Mongul's plan was after he has GL and Green Arrow trapped at the plants mercy?

Yeah Mongul's got access to them regularly. He(or it might've been his father) used them in the comic "For the man who has everything" a CLASSIC!. Also even used them in the Justice League Unlimited episode of the same name. Interesting and evil stuff!

[The Leaguer]

The punch in issue 9 was great, because it un-did that lame moment in Rebirth. Everything else about it sucked. Also, the GL uniform mixed with Batman's uniform looks really stupid.

[TheCorpulent1]

Yeah, the mixed costume really did look bad.

[Assassin]

i still liked the varient cover

[Silicon Surfer]

The Black Mercy was introduced pre crisis when Mongul used it against Superman only to have Robin use it against him.

[TheCorpulent1]

Hehehe, yeah, in one of the few worthwhile things Jason Todd ever did in his first life. :)

[Silicon Surfer]

yeah, Mongul shouldn't have made his "almost intelligent " crack

[King_Mungi]

I was suprized the scene with Mongul jr. and his sister...yesh! bad blood.

[Antitang]

I was suprized the scene with Mongul jr. and his sister...yesh! bad blood.

Oh yeah when Mongul knocked his sisters head off. That was shocking although I can see his point about taking care of his weakness'. Thats what seperates the villains from the heroes I suppose.

[The Batman]

The Real Mongul should return and kill his son

[Antitang]

eh? why?

[Anubis]

No more bringing back dead people. Just make his son more like him.

[Pksoze]

I was suprized the scene with Mongul jr. and his sister...yesh! bad blood.


I think Johns killed her because he hated her name Mongal.

[Antitang]

Hah if Mongal is actually her name I woulda killed her off too.

[The Batman]

eh? why?


Because this current version sucks, and the precrisis version was ten times cooler than this guy. Especially seeing him on Justice League. I dont know what the hell DC was thinking when they brought in the mongul family.

I know we shouldnt bring back the dead...but just this ONE time....

[Green Lantern]

I think Johns killed her because he hated her name Mongal.Mongul was like George Foreman, naming all his kids after himself :o

[Anubis]

He kinda looked like George Foreman too.

[TheCorpulent1]

No more bringing back dead people. Just make his son more like him.
His son's already identical to Mongul except for his clothes. Which Mongul Jr. ripped off in that arc anyway because his dumb ass didn't know about the removal of the yellow weakness, which probably happened like 2 or 3 ****ing years ago in comic time. Ignorant yellow bastard. :o

[Manwithoutpeer]

What happened in the current issue with Batman on the cover? That is the current issue isn't it?

[GoldenAgeHero]

i liked issue 9 and the ending was'nt horrible. you guys should just face it your not ginna get your hal needs to be "ounished for what he did". so quit bashing on the books on that alone.

[TheCorpulent1]

What happened in the current issue with Batman on the cover? That is the current issue isn't it?
As you can see in the above post, GAH and some others have accepted that Johns is going to be lazy and take shortcuts to put Hal back at his Silver Age status quo. I thought the whole issue and the resolution to the Batman/Hal feud was incredibly contrived and crappy, though.

[Harlekin]

The moment itself is great, but a bit too early.

The scene:
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[Pksoze]

Anybody else find it weird that Hal hasn't really had an effect on the Crisis?

[Anubis]

I thought it went okay. You have to take into account that Bats seems to be trying to be less of a Douche. Not being a prick to Hal is a start. Plus, he did give him a little peace of mind by letting him use the ring. Besides, it's not over yet. As they stated in the book, Hal has to watch his back around other GL's. They haven't forgiven him. And I know theres an issue coming where he is gonna have to deal with that.

[regwec]

It was good to see a degree of resolution to the rivalry between the two characters that was respectful to both. The issue actually developed Batman's character in a somewhat promising direction.

The punch-back was only marginally less silly than the original punch, however (what is the point in a ring if it doesn't even block elementary physical attacks?), and I am fairly furious that, with Batman's reconciliation with Hal, the latter has now been entirely "let off the hook" from all the skeletons in his closet, without even the barest character development.

[hippie_hunter]

I love Johns as a writer but his Batman sucks. He's way too much of a douche and still hasn't gotten over his parents' death despite the fact that other writers such as Rucka have developed great stories where Batman has gotten over it.

[hippie_hunter]

Also Hal voted to mindwipe Batman, something to add on top of the Paralax incident. Batman is just meant to hate Hal Jordan.

[GoldenAgeHero]

I love Johns as a writer but his Batman sucks. He's way too much of a douche and still hasn't gotten over his parents' death despite the fact that other writers such as Rucka have developed great stories where Batman has gotten over it.

how does his batman suck? he doesnt even write the book, he wrote this gl issue with him in it and it's post chrisis yet, so his non douchness hasnt kicked it in yuet. I dont think anyone would like to get over thier parents death, not the way his parents were taken away from him.

[hippie_hunter]

how does his batman suck? he doesnt even write the book, he wrote this gl issue with him in it and it's post chrisis yet, so his non douchness hasnt kicked it in yuet. I dont think anyone would like to get over thier parents death, not the way his parents were taken away from him.

Johns's Batman is just too much of a douchebag in my opinion. And Batman got over his parent's ghosts in Death and the Maidens. His parent's ghosts confort him not haunt him.

[Manwithoutpeer]

I didn't really care for his take on Bats when he wrote the Flash either.

GoldenAgeHero you need to add the Incredible Hulk to your "Marvel Books Worth Mentioning"...:)

[Anubis]

I still don't see where this "Completely off the hook" thing comes from. They said, in that very issue, that some GLs would be gunning for Hal. Maybe some of the heros on earth have forgiven him, but he has a long way to go before he can get universal forgiveness. As it should be. He saved Earth in his last act as Paralax, he didn't save the rest of the universe. I could care less if bats hates him or not, I would much rather see how he stands with the 7200 motha f**kas he has to work with.

http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v485/AnubisGOD/DC%20II/GL-Cv11-Solicit.jpg

[TheCorpulent1]

I'm guessing you're referring to regwec's post, Anubis. For myself, I can only say that other GLs' gunning for Hal should be a cool story that actually takes advantage of his past sins and helps to develop him further, but it still doesn't change the fact that Batman's seemingly total forgiveness of Hal--to the extent that he said he was glad to have him back--felt really rushed and contrived to me. It's always a herculean effort for Batman to admit that he cares about the people closest to him who have only ever supported and cared for him, let alone Hal, whom he has a justifiable reason to hate. I wish it had been a subplot that created a gradual character arc for both of them. One issue just didn't seem to do it justice given how much big a deal Johns seemed to make of it in Rebirth.

[Anubis]

Whose to say what Bats thinks. I seem to recall him deciding to stop being a Douche Bag to his family after the Murder/Fugitive arc, yet, he was still a Douche. Even more of a Douche really. Just because he called him Hal again doesn't mean he's forgiven him. I think you guys are reading too much into this. As if this is some definitve proof that all is forgiven when all we really got out of it was a somewhat peaceful team up between Bats and Hal that ended on a good note. Same thing happened between Green Arrow and Carter Hall.

[TheCorpulent1]

Ollie and Carter hated each other because they had political differences. Batman hates Hal because Hal destroyed the universe. I'd say Batman's got a stronger basis for his conflict with Hal and thus needs a stronger chain of events to create a satisfying resolution. Bruce was also less of a douche after the Murderer/Fugitive stuff, they just cranked the douche-o-meter into overdrive again to create conflict for Infinite Crisis. Plus, his resurgence in douchyness was explained by his memories of the mindwipe resurfacing, which presumably took place after Murderer/Fugitive.

If I had to break the Batman/Hal resolution down to one thing that really irked me, it'd be that "glad to have you back" line. I could've accepted the resolution as not quite a resolution, but more of a start to their building towards a resolution if not for that line. Somehow I just don't see Batman telling someone he's glad they're back in the saddle with a weapon that can devastate entire fleets unless he's completely forgiven them.

[Anubis]

Bah, I'm betting that the next time we see Hal and Bats together Bats is still gonna be pissy at him. Likely to happen in JLA.

[TheCorpulent1]

If that's the case, I'll be somewhat appeased. As it stands right now, though, this issue certainly looks like it was intended to resolve the Batman/Hal conflict altogether.

[Anubis]

I highly doubt it. As a matter of fact, i'm so confindent that they will be back at each others throuts agian, that If it is, I'll let you live an extra ten years.

[TheCorpulent1]

Sweet, I'm almost up to 30 now!

[Anubis]

Yeah, more time to finally lose your virginity.

[TheCorpulent1]

No kidding. So, what are you doing later, Annie? Can I call you Annie? ;)

[Anubis]

My name is RON!

[TheCorpulent1]

All right, then, Ronnie. You still haven't told me what you're doing later.

[Anubis]

Getting very drunk and passing out in a ditch.

[TheCorpulent1]

Sweet, that makes my job a whole lot easier. Where is this ditch, exactly?

[LinternaVerde]

uhm. but bats is going to work with hal in next infinite crisis episode... with hal and the new blue beetle

[Anubis]

Well we'll see how they interact then.

[Anubis]

Sweet, that makes my job a whole lot easier. Where is this ditch, exactly?

Do you really wanna admit to date rape online? I mean when it eventually happens, you wont have a leg to stand on.

[TheCorpulent1]

Do you really wanna admit to date rape online? I mean when it eventually happens, you wont have a leg to stand on.
Neither will you, if I pull it off right.

[Doomed_hero]

I liked the ending esp. after reading the convo between Nightwing and Batman in IC. IT shows Batman is trying to show he does care and trust people.

[LinternaVerde]

I really like GL 9... It was a funny tandem. And Hal and Bats trying to be funny.

[yenaled]

I ejoyed the issue till the last few pages.

That was so forced and really quite stupid. The new tattooed man is cool though.

[Manwithoutpeer]

I thought it was a decent issue and the stuff with Bats was ok with me. Maybe he just realizes that another conflict is not what the world needs.

[Antitang]

the resolution to the Batman/Hal feud was incredibly contrived and crappy.

Yeah I agree.

[Antitang]

Is Green Lantern Legacy: The will and testimate of Hal Jorden a good TPB?

[Anubis]

It's pretty good. Great artwork. But rather pointless now that Hal's back. It marked the resurrection of Kilowog though.

[GoldenAgeHero]

i really like kilowag, i wouldnt mind if he got his own ongoing. i would buy the books, over hal's anyday.

[TheCorpulent1]

Kilowog and Guy look like they'll be the main characters of the GL Corps ongoing. I'm a big Kilowog fan myself. I like that he represents the power and strength of the Corps in its purest form, pretty much.

[Guy Gardner]

Kilowog and Guy look like they'll be the main characters of the GL Corps ongoing. I'm a big Kilowog fan myself. I like that he represents the power and strength of the Corps in its purest form, pretty much.
more Guy Gardner = more of my $$$$$ to DC

[GoldenAgeHero]

Kilowog and Guy look like they'll be the main characters of the GL Corps ongoing. I'm a big Kilowog fan myself. I like that he represents the power and strength of the Corps in its purest form, pretty much.

i think the corps well be a team book based on the characters on the new cover.

[TheCorpulent1]

Duh. :confused:

[regwec]

I am disturbed that, with the re emergance of Ion, Guy will become the new lynchpin of the book. In my opinion, Guy along with Sub-pargirl are the two least likeable heroes in the DCU.

[TheCorpulent1]

Guy's pretty likable to me. As the Guardians pointed out, beneath his brusque exterior he's actually a true hero. Plus, Kilowog's there to smack him back into line. I find it hilarious that Guy now outranks Hal, though. :D

[regwec]

True. But I really find "attitude" heroes unbearably tedious. Any character whom a marketing executive might describe as "extreme" should be deleted.

[Guy Gardner]

True. But I really find "attitude" heroes unbearably tedious. Any character whom a marketing executive might describe as "extreme" should be deleted.
to be fair, a marketing exec would refer to Wolverine as 'extreme' as well...and the appeal of the Guy Gardner character is that he's the most human of all the Earth GL's

[regwec]

Can't abide Wolverine, either. Guy probably is very human, but he represents a sort of human being that I, personally, could live without.

[Green Lantern]

and the appeal of the Guy Gardner character is that he's the most human of all the Earth GL'sI'll disagree with this comment. That was the whole REASON for Kyle Rayner's creation, is that he was just your every day Joe Schmoe in the right place at the right time. Noone is more human than Kyle.

[GoldenAgeHero]

im probably the only one who dislikes wolverine the character is extremely overrated. some other character needs to come in put him in his place.

[TheCorpulent1]

You're not even close to the only person who dislikes Wolverine around here.

[Antitang]

What happened when batman used GL's ring? I know that he summoned those bats but was it all of his built up anger or something?

[regwec]

I think the ring sort of gave physical presence to all of his repressed emotions.

[That-Guy]

You're not even close to the only person who dislikes Wolverine around here.


I've never liked Wolverine, which is why I was so surprised that I liked him in the X-Men movies. Maybe because they didn't make him such an unbeatable, wise-cracking jackass... they actually gave him some humanity. Still, I don't think I'd hate Wolverine so much if his fans weren't so damned annoying. They act like he can beat ANYONE (much like a lot of DC fans think Batman can do the same thing... but I don't mind that as much because at least Batman isn't usually written as a two-dimensional character). I remember I was talking to one of them once and he was attempting to explain to me that the only way to kill Wolverine would be to atomize every single cell of his body, otherwise it would just regenerate itself. I don't know if that is actually true according to the comic books, but if it is, that makes no sense at all. If that were true, then every time Wolvie got a piece of skin scraped off of him, that piece would have to grow another Wolverine. Which, I suppose, would actually be a cool power to have, but as far as I know, this has never happened to Wolverine, so this idea that you could barbacue his heart and his brain along with the rest of him but if a fingernail was still intact, he would come back to life is utter bullsh**.

[Anubis]

Couldn't you just drown the hairy bastard? Or can he breath underwater now?

[Antitang]

I saw the Xmen movie a long time ago but didnt Wolverine fight the lady who was just like Wolverine and then he pumped her up with that metal? I think that finished her and didnt look like it was all that hard to do.

Batman > Wolverine heh

[Tazer]

Yo.

I'll disagree with this comment. That was the whole REASON for Kyle Rayner's creation, is that he was just your every day Joe Schmoe in the right place at the right time. Noone is more human than Kyle.
of course, that could also apply to Jordan when ya think about it. :)




Tazer

[regwec]

How? Hal was basically a less refined, more jock-esque Han Solo even before he got the ring. Kyle was an artist.

[TheCorpulent1]

I think he means his origin as a GL. Hal originally stumbled onto Abin Sur's ship, didn't he? And Abin just gave him the ring because he was close at hand and he was too injured to find a more suitable replacement.

[TheCorpulent1]

Couldn't you just drown the hairy bastard? Or can he breath underwater now?
The Hulk's more sophisticated regeneration ability allowed him to breathe underwater after he'd basically died of drowning in Peter David's recent Hulk arc. I'm just waiting for some douchebag writer to make Wolverine's healing factor comparable. It's not even a "healing" factor anymore, it's more like an immortality factor.

And yes, I know I double posted and I don't care! :mad:

Actually, I just forgot to copy and paste this stuff into my previous post. :(

[Green Lantern]

Yo.


of course, that could also apply to Jordan when ya think about it. :)




TazerNot really, Hal was in a flight simulator that Abin Sur pulled off its block and flew through the air hundreds of miles. Kyle was in an alley way with a hobo. Which one is more right place, right time?

[Guy Gardner]

I'll disagree with this comment. That was the whole REASON for Kyle Rayner's creation, is that he was just your every day Joe Schmoe in the right place at the right time. Noone is more human than Kyle.
and I'll disagree with this comment...the whole reason Kyle was created was because Kevin Dooley hated the Hal Jordan character and Ron Marz couldn't exactly think of a good way to introduce a new GL without disgracing 3 others

Kyle may have grown into being a well-written, solid character...but don't try to tell me he was created because the Green Lantern lacked humanity

[Guy Gardner]

How? Hal was basically a less refined, more jock-esque Han Solo even before he got the ring. Kyle was an artist.
Hal came long before Han...but the whole purpose that Hal was written that way was because of the times he was created in. Young kids were fascinated with their althletic heroes far more than they are today, and the concept of being a pilot and the idea of space-travel were still new concepts that young readers wanted to read about.

But at least Hal was able to adapt as a character because of the writers he had, re: Denny O'Neil. Hal tackled serious social issues and became a relevent, near reality based, character during the 70's and was victim of bad writing in the 80's. Even during Winnick's run, which for whatever reason people champion as a good run, Kyle's most powerful social issue was Metrosexuality.

Kyle's a difficult character to write because he was so poorly created.

[Green Lantern]

Even during Winnick's run, which for whatever reason people champion as a good run, Kyle's most powerful social issue was Metrosexuality.
Wow... just wow... did you read ANY of Winick's run? In that Kyle dealt with the tough issues of a teenager coming out of the closet and hate crimes. Both of which are on a par with most of the O'Neil run on Hal.

[TheCorpulent1]

Kyle's a difficult character to write because he was so poorly created.
Wow, you're pretty biased against Kyle. I don't see how anyone could read Morrison, Waid, and Kelly's JLA and still maintain that he's a "difficult character to write." Those three made him pretty interesting and impressive for me.

I'm not even touching that metrosexuality comment. :o

[Guy Gardner]

Wow... just wow... did you read ANY of Winick's run? In that Kyle dealt with the tough issues of a teenager coming out of the closet and hate crimes. Both of which are on a par with most of the O'Neil run on Hal.
Yes, I did read them and I thought they were contrived and forced.

I just don't think Winnick's a good writer and there's plenty of GL fans and even more Bat-Fans that would agree with me.

[LadyVader]

They're just not posting in this thread. :)

[TheCorpulent1]

Yes, I did read them and I thought they were contrived and forced.

I just don't think Winnick's a good writer and there's plenty of GL fans and even more Bat-Fans that would agree with me.
Wait, wait, wait... you thought Winick's social issues in GL were forced, but you praise O'Neil's?? O'Neil's social issues were about as forced as they come. Do I really need to remind you of John Stewart, who, as introduced by O'Neil, was basically a gestalt of every single black stereotype of the '70s?

[Guy Gardner]

Wait, wait, wait... you thought Winick's social issues in GL were forced, but you praise O'Neil's?? O'Neil's social issues were about as forced as they come. Do I really need to remind you of John Stewart, who, as introduced by O'Neil, was basically a gestalt of every single black stereotype of the '70s?
Never said I liked how John Stewart was introduced or what he was for the first five years or so he was around, I like what the character evolved into...and especially what he became during Mosaic which might be Gerard Jones's most unappreciated work.

But as for you argument that Kyle was well written in JLA, I won't disagree, especially with those writers, all of which are mountains above the people who worked on Kyles solo book. Ben Raab? Please....Kyle as a solo character is too difficult to write, he's far easier to handle and far more interesting in a team environment, which is why I was all for the GLC book featuring him, Guy and Kilowog...all three of those characters need the team environment to be strong characters.

[TheCorpulent1]

I don't agree that Kyle needs a team environment. He works just fine as his own man, in my opinion. If anything, I think Hal could use the team environment a hell of a lot more than Kyle could. His current series has been pretty lackluster.

[regwec]

His current series has been pretty lackluster.
And it has only sparkled when he had a more interesting character with which to ally himself.

[Green Lantern]

Yeah, I think it all stems down to your own hatred and bias against Kyle. Lots of people liked Kyle, and that was evident by the fact that in polls it almost always showed Kyle and Hal at a dead heat.

[Guy Gardner]

I don't agree that Kyle needs a team environment. He works just fine as his own man, in my opinion. If anything, I think Hal could use the team environment a hell of a lot more than Kyle could. His current series has been pretty lackluster.
The current series did start out slow...very slow, but it's picked up tremendously and I think it's only going to get better, but the problem with the new GL series was that following ReBirth you had to establish Hal the man again, not Hal the GL.

Johns drew it out a bit much, but the book is moving in a very positive direction now.

I've said it before, and I'll say it again, I don't hate the character of Kyle, I hate the writing of the men who were charged with writing his solo book, and I hope Marz proves me wrong with Ion.

[TheCorpulent1]

And it has only sparkled when he had a more interesting character with which to ally himself.
The GA issues were pretty good. The Batman one, not so much. All right, euphemisms aside, I hated the Batman issue.
The current series did start out slow...very slow, but it's picked up tremendously and I think it's only going to get better, but the problem with the new GL series was that following ReBirth you had to establish Hal the man again, not Hal the GL.
I disagree. Outside of some surface changes, I think Johns has rushed to make Hal pretty much indistinguishable from his Silver Age self. He's a test pilot with authority issues (again), he's generally considered a great GL among the Corps (again), he's generally considered a great hero on Earth (again), he's cocky to a fault (again), etc. The only element I've really liked and appreciated as growth from the current series is the stuff between Hal and his brother. Other than that, Hal's slid back into his Silver Age status quo so quickly and seamlessly that it's bored me.

[regwec]

The Batman issue was irritating because it effectively threw away a lot of important plot points and character development, but as a self contained story, I thought it was quite entertaining.

[TheCorpulent1]

I guess it was all right in that respect. The whole point of a Batman/GL story after Rebirth would kind of have to be focused on those plot points and character developments you mentioned, though, if you want to be true to the characters at all. Which, coincidentally, I thought Johns really, really was not.

[Sentry2005]

john's writing hal is like a fan boy having a wet dream while awake; personally i don't think he should be writing Green Lantern. it's just not clicking.

I liked the idea of Green Lantern Corps, but i really didn't like the villains of the story. they just didn't do it for me. i did like Guy stepping into a leadership role however :D that was awesome

[TheCorpulent1]

The Spider Guild has a pretty long history with the GL Corps, if I recall correctly. There could've been more of a focus on them and their attack, since it seemed kind of tacked-on, but overall I thought it was a cool finish to the Recharge mini.

[regwec]

I thought The Spider Guild was a really imaginative concept. I hope to see more of them in the future.

[TheCorpulent1]

Provided any of them survived having a sun blasted at them, you mean? ;)

[regwec]

You know they will. Spiders are good survivors.

[TheCorpulent1]

Yeah, they'll probably just shed their skin, form cocoons, and come back to fight the GLs with a bunch of new powers that make no sense. :)

[The Leaguer]

Then they get weird suits of armor that only have three extra arms and they start siding with the American government.

[GoldenAgeHero]

spiderman got pwnt! i dont evencare anymore, i dropped asm. anywho the spider guild concept was great, johns is really imaginative when it comes to creating villians.

[Lackey]

Yeah, they'll probably just shed their skin, form cocoons, and come back to fight the GLs with a bunch of new powers that make no sense. :)


that was good :D:up:

[Antitang]

Hal originally stumbled onto Abin Sur's ship, didn't he? And Abin just gave him the ring because he was close at hand and he was too injured to find a more suitable replacement.

Nah I don't think so im pretty sure Abin Sur used his ring to scan the area for someone worthy of the mantel of Green Lantern. The ring then lifted Hal up and pulled him to the ship.

[The Leaguer]

Yeah, Hal was in some sort of flight simulator and Abin was like, "dude, that's awesome, give me a ride" and he brought it over then Hal was like, "dude, my turn just started, and besides, you're dying" and the Abin guy was like, "haha, ur right, here, have this ring" and Hal was like, "lol, k, I'll call myself the Green Lantern, on accounta this here battery." Unfortunately, explaining what the f*** was going on was not Abin's forte.

[Antitang]

^ yeah something like that heh

[TheCorpulent1]

I could've sworn I read somewhere that Guy was supposed to be Green Lantern if the Guardians ever needed a GL from Earth, but Abin gave Hal the ring because he happened to be closer or something.

[The Leaguer]

They may have retconned that in, but that wasn't the case in the beginning. In beginning, it all revolved around a really fun-looking flight simulator.

[TheCorpulent1]

There's such a thing as a fun flight simulator? :confused:

[Antitang]

I could've sworn I read somewhere that Guy was supposed to be Green Lantern if the Guardians ever needed a GL from Earth, but Abin gave Hal the ring because he happened to be closer or something.

Well I doubt that the ring could have searched the whole world before Abin Sur died so maybe it just searched within a couple of miles for someone that would do.

[The Leaguer]

Hey, I said fun-looking, not fun. Hell, Hal designed it, so it was most likely made out of bran cereal boxes and duct tape, and the point of the simulator is to fly in a straight line while avoiding any interesting character development.

[TheCorpulent1]

Harsh, man. Harsh. :(

[The Leaguer]

The truth sometimes is.

[TheCorpulent1]

Especially in this case.

[regwec]

Does anyone know exactly how the Spider Guild qualifies as a guild? It seems just to mean that it is controlled by a small oligarchy, but I wonder if there is more to it.

There is something inately unnerving about a giant man-spider in monastic robes. The artwork was commendable in that respect.

[The Leaguer]

They all play World of Warcraft together.

[regwec]

Okay, that's a reference that is beyond the horizons of my own personal geekism. :)

[The Leaguer]

My geekism has no limit, therefore I am clearly superior to you!

[That-Guy]

Does anyone know exactly how the Spider Guild qualifies as a guild? It seems just to mean that it is controlled by a small oligarchy, but I wonder if there is more to it.

There is something inately unnerving about a giant man-spider in monastic robes. The artwork was commendable in that respect.


Wait... MAN-SPIDER? Parker, is that you? :D

[TheCorpulent1]

My geekism has no limit, therefore I am clearly superior to you!
Yes, "superior" is definitely the word I'd choose...

[The Leaguer]

Yes, "superior" is definitely the word I'd choose...
Good, I'm glad you agree. :up:

[TheCorpulent1]

Your sarcasm detector is obviously sadly inferior. :(

[Silicon Surfer]

Hal Jordan was indeed in a flight simulator that was pulled to Abin Surs location. There was never any mention of how far he scanned or of any other candidates. Abin Sur broke the Guardians rules by giving the ring to Hal since the Guardians alone can decide who give a ring to. Also they had decided that no Earthman would ever become a Green Lantern since they knew of the proliferation of super beings that would arise on the planet in the near future. Hal was summoned to Oa within a few months and put through grueling tests to prove his worth and was also trained by Sinestro.

[Varient]

Boy this thread has desolved into hard-geek-humor.

(raising shields)

[Amazing Afroman]

I FIGURED IT OUT!!!! I know why the people will distrust Hal Jorday OLY. It's quite simple if you think about it....


























...He's a pr!ck!
http://luchins.com/dickery/Flash_1974_%23227_15.jpg

[LadyVader]

Nah, he is just written that way.

[regwec]

I FIGURED IT OUT!!!! I know why the people will distrust Hal Jorday OLY. It's quite simple if you think about it.......He's a pr!ck!
http://luchins.com/dickery/Flash_1974_%23227_15.jpg
I've just changed my mind. Hal is a top bloke.

[Odin's Fury]

Hal Jordan was indeed in a flight simulator that was pulled to Abin Surs location. There was never any mention of how far he scanned or of any other candidates. Abin Sur broke the Guardians rules by giving the ring to Hal since the Guardians alone can decide who give a ring to. Also they had decided that no Earthman would ever become a Green Lantern since they knew of the proliferation of super beings that would arise on the planet in the near future. Hal was summoned to Oa within a few months and put through grueling tests to prove his worth and was also trained by Sinestro.

Actually, in the original story, the lantern itself chose Hal. And considering the ring can act at the speed of light (at least), it could very quickly have scanned pretty much the whole globe.

And also, if the Guardians never liked Earth, why in the world do they keep picking more humans to be GLs?

[Silicon Surfer]

Actually, in the original story, the lantern itself chose Hal. And considering the ring can act at the speed of light (at least), it could very quickly have scanned pretty much the whole globe.

And also, if the Guardians never liked Earth, why in the world do they keep picking more humans to be GLs? Presumably since humans are writing the stories in which they exist they decided it was prudent to change their minds. :)

[TheCorpulent1]

Or, if you want to leave the fourth wall intact, humans have proven to be highly effective Green Lanterns. Hal was the greatest of the Corps in his day, Kyle kept the Corps alive when no one else could, John was made a Guardian, and Guy just saved Oa's ass.

[Anubis]

GL corps really made me come to appritiate Guy.

[The Leaguer]

Well, just as long as you're not appreciating him, I guess it's okay.

[TheCorpulent1]

Making fun of people for misspelling things is so snobbish. :rolleyes:

[The Leaguer]

You're just mad I got to it first.

[Silicon Surfer]

Everyone keeps mentioning Hal, Kyle, John, and Guy. Name the other human Green lantern.

[TheCorpulent1]

Alan Scott, the first and still the best. Duh. :p

[Silicon Surfer]

I meant the other human member of the GL corp.

[TheCorpulent1]

Who's that? :confused:

[regwec]

Captain Arsegoblin.

[TheCorpulent1]

That's so not a real Lantern. :o

[The Leaguer]

Sure he is, but what regwec failed to mention is that he is also known as Hal Jordan.

[TheCorpulent1]

Then he's already on the list so I don't care about him. :o

[The Leaguer]

Well, yeah, no one cares about Hal Jordan.

[regwec]

Nobody cares about him.

[regwec]

Dammit. Our hatred ties.

[The Leaguer]

Nuh uh, my hatred is 2 minutes ahead of yours.

[regwec]

Pfft. You love him really.

[The Leaguer]

I do not, you do.

[Silicon Surfer]

The other Green Lanterns name is Charlie Vickers. I don't know his story but he had a sector on the other side of the universe. I don't remember for certain but I think there was once a mention of him being exiled from earth.

[Anubis]

He's right.

http://www.supermanartists.comics.org/silverage/charleyvickers-GL55.JPG

[Antitang]

Presumably since humans are writing the stories in which they exist they decided it was prudent to change their minds. :)

Bah I seriously hate when people say stuff like this.:down:(

[regwec]

I do not, you do.
You do so love him. You want to kiss his ring.

[TheCorpulent1]

He's right.

http://www.supermanartists.comics.org/silverage/charleyvickers-GL55.JPG
Man, how could I have forgotten such a major cornerstone of the Green Lantern mythos? :o

[Anubis]

Well, you're right too.

[TheCorpulent1]

I usually am. :cool:

[Anubis]

Yeah, but nobody likes a know it all.

[TheCorpulent1]

It's true, I am pretty lonely. :(

[The Leaguer]

It's okay, you have deemar to keep you company.

[TheCorpulent1]

Yeah. Are we still on for that double-date with you and The Batman next week?

[The Leaguer]

Actually, let's move it to this Friday. We can all go see V for Vendetta together, and canoodle in the back row.

[TheCorpulent1]

I have a strict "No Canoodling in Public" policy. :o

[The Leaguer]

I'm sure deemar will awaken the animal within you.

[TheCorpulent1]

The animal within me is a poodle. :(

[The Leaguer]

And as well all know, every poodle loves to canoodle.

[TheCorpulent1]

You just couldn't resist the rhyme, could you? :o

[The Leaguer]

Shut up, I knew you'd be jealous.

[TheCorpulent1]

I totally am. Jealous of your ability to wield humor with all the subtlety and wit of a retarded, paraplegic two-year-old. :(

[The Leaguer]

Yeah, I imagine its rough having the subtlety and wit of a retarded, paraplegic one-year-old.

I have to ask, though, what does being a paraplegic have to do with it?

[TheCorpulent1]

Pun on "wielding." And thanks for proving my point.

Plebeian. :o

[fifthfiend]

Seriously can the two of you just **** each other in the ass already and get it out of your systems?

[The Leaguer]

What makes you think we're not?

[TheCorpulent1]

We're doing that right now, in fact. Leaguer brought his computer over so we could both post while we were at it.

[The Leaguer]

New meaning to the term "laptop."

[TheCorpulent1]

Where's a rimshot when you need one? :eek:

Not that kind, Leaguer! :mad:

[The Leaguer]

Yeah, right, like you don't like it.

[fifthfiend]

New meaning to the term "laptop."

Wouldn't that be more like a "backtop"?

[TheCorpulent1]

Not the way we do it. :o

[The Leaguer]

No. No, it wouldn't.

[Anubis]

Jesus you two are gay. Not that theres anything wrong with that.

[The Leaguer]

We're not gay, we just have sex with men.

[Anubis]

Oh right well why didn't you say so.

[The Leaguer]

It's okay, I just did.

[Anubis]

So whos the top and whose the bottom in this realtionship.

[The Leaguer]

The answer is yes.

[Anubis]

Ah I see.

[The Leaguer]

There's always room for a third...

[Anubis]

No thanks. I only have sex with fictional characters and sock puppets.

[Hush]

I thought I was the only one Anubis!!! Finally another!!!

[TheCorpulent1]

Ion #3:

http://www.newsarama.com/dcnew/June06/DCU/IonCv3.jpg

MOOOOOOGOOOOOOO!!!! I can't wait! :D

[Assassin]

he's baaaaaack

[yenaled]

MOGO :D

God dammit, Mogo stories are always good.

I love that cover too.

[TheCorpulent1]

Yeah, I wish Kalman were doing the interiors. What I've seen of Tocchini's work on Ion does not look good at all. :(

[Odin's Fury]

no way. Mogo's back! This is gonna be so sweet. Mogo should have his own book. And Kilowogg.

[The Watchman]

Yeah, I wish Kalman were doing the interiors. What I've seen of Tocchini's work on Ion does not look good at all. :(
No, it looks confusing and muddled, that and the starface thing are really holding this back for me, I mean, I'm still gonna buy it I'm just not as excited for it. :(

[TheCorpulent1]

Yeah, I'm really not digging the star face.

[Anubis]

It only works on Capn' Marv.

[Assassin]

Major force is back, i really thought Kyle killed him in the last issue of marz run

[The Watchman]

everyone knows talking heads in GL bubbles launched into space always return :rolleyes:

:)

[Anubis]

No, he didn't kill him. You can't kill him. He just put him in a bubble and launched him into deep space.

[TheCorpulent1]

I wonder if that applies to Captain Atom, too... Not being able to kill him, I mean.

[The Watchman]

depends on whether or not he has a weiner, I mean, you don't have to kill someone to KILL someone if you know what I'm saying...







...what I'm saying is he would die on the inside if you cut off his cock. :up:

[Assassin]

yea we got it the first time lol

[Tamanon]

Newsarama's got a preview of the OYL Green Lantern. Artwork looks pretty damn good.:)

[ssj wolverine]

I didn't follow the comics to know if they had fought before.

[Guy Gardner]

Sinestro Corps? Sinestro Corps?


I actually really like this idea, and I think it's got a lot of potential....although the name is certainly going to need some work.

[GoldenAgeHero]

yeah johns really did well with this issue. plus it looks like hal was a POW towards the ending of 52. and hal is a criminal in the eyes of the world. be casue defies the power treaty.

[GoldenAgeHero]

nvm

[Guy Gardner]

yeah johns really did well with this issue. plus it looks like hal was a POW towards the ending of 52. and hal is a criminal in the eyes of the world. be casue defies the power treaty.
I must agree with you...Johns really stepped it up with the story; I can only hope that the people who dropped the book pick it back up after hearing about this story

[GoldenAgeHero]

yeah i knew he wouldnt dissapoint. i think it was crisis and the other books that was bogging down his writing.

[Guy Gardner]

so true, and I have to hand it to Ivan Reis as well, his art looks amazing, almost like a cross between Pacheco and EVS's styles...it goes really well with the character

I can't wait for this arc to continue with the return of Hank Henshaw

[GoldenAgeHero]

yeah i can se the similarities between the three artisist also. btw are the rocket reds new characters or old? i was never exposed tot hem before.

[Guy Gardner]

the Rocket Reds have been around since the mid-80's.... IIRC, they were formed by the Russian gov't and trained by Kilowog

Rocket Red 7 was a regular player for the Justice League International

While the characters aren't new, they haven't been used very often for I'd say the last seven years or so

[yenaled]

Just incase anyone was interested, the New Global Guaridans

http://webpages.charter.net/jblazer/Global.jpg

Are;

Jet (Mach Two - Jamaica)
Gloss (China)
Tasmanian Devil (Australia)
Manticore (new version - Greece)
Sandstorm (new character - Syria)

[The Leaguer]

Um, Johns definitely did not step it up with this issue. This was as disappointing as the rest of the series has been. I'm glad to see Hal is even more hateable post-OYL than he was pre-.

[GoldenAgeHero]

Um, Johns definitely did not step it up with this issue. This was as disappointing as the rest of the series has been. I'm glad to see Hal is even more hateable post-OYL than he was pre-.

glad to know your opinion.:up:

[GoldenAgeHero]

bump

[Antitang]

Um, Johns definitely did not step it up with this issue. This was as disappointing as the rest of the series has been. I'm glad to see Hal is even more hateable post-OYL than he was pre-.

I too am glad to know your opinion but I couldn't dissagree more.

[Antitang]

Um, Johns definitely did not step it up with this issue. This was as disappointing as the rest of the series has been. I'm glad to see Hal is even more hateable post-OYL than he was pre-.

bah posted double

[Manwithoutpeer]

Um, Johns definitely did not step it up with this issue. This was as disappointing as the rest of the series has been. I'm glad to see Hal is even more hateable post-OYL than he was pre-.

I think for the most part it's been great since Rebirth... one or two issues were hit or miss but he has also been setting up a lot of things (ie: Manhunters) just like he did in his amazing Flash run. A few of his 1st 15 issues were so-so as well.

[GoldenAgeHero]

http://i26.photobucket.com/albums/c108/goldenage/11glanternpg022km.jpg

a page form GL11

[TheCorpulent1]

I love the Ken-doll hair on that alien on the bottom left of the top panel. :)

[GoldenAgeHero]

haha yeah, i thought that was a helmet at first.

[GoldenAgeHero]

panels from GL#11

http://img84.imageshack.us/img84/5521/gl1102a4fe.jpg

http://img122.imageshack.us/img122/3225/gl1104a7ad.jpg


^^ doomsday's brother?

[Harlekin]

It is so totally cafeteria-brawl time for Guy and Hal. :D I'm almost tempted to pick it up.

[TheCorpulent1]

Ivan Reis' pencils and the hope that Johns eventually manages to do something constructive with Hal in spite of his Silver Age fanboyism are why I'm buying it.

[yenaled]

Haha. The "ken haired guy" is Deeter. I think he is was in IC #7 too actually.

[TheCorpulent1]

Huh... the new Lantern symbols have taken on new meaning, basically becoming the GLs' badges. I wonder if that white-on-black Lantern the cook's wearing denotes Oa's service personnel.

[The Question]

I don't think so. There are other GLs in that picture with black on white. Maybe they just take shifts working in the mess hall, like they do in some private schools.

[TheCorpulent1]

I don't think so. There are other GLs in that picture with black on white. Maybe they just take shifts working in the mess hall, like they do in some private schools.
White on black. And I don't see any other Lanterns in there with a symbol like that.

[The Question]

Oh. Yeah. I read it wrong. I don't know, you may be right. Still, I like my idea. Mainly because it would be funny to put Kyle and Guy on mess hall duety together.

[TheCorpulent1]

Something tells me Kyle isn't going to be on any kind of duty anymore.

[The Question]

True. Still, one can dream. And in any event, Guy being on mess hall duty with anyone would be comedy gold.

[TheCorpulent1]

Guy on mess hall duty by himself would be comedy gold. :)

[The Question]

Very true. But alas, DC seems bent on taking the funny away. :(


Also, on an only vaguely related note: Have you noticed that Alan Scott has an eye patch now? WIth him being one of the head honchos of the new Checkmate, that's kind of laying on the S.H.E.I.L.D. parallels a little strong, don't you think?

[Anubis]

How can you say that with a pic of that guy with that freaky hair on the same page?

[The Question]

How can you say that with a pic of that guy with that freaky hair on the same page?



Well, that's more of an accidental kind of funny. Like what you'd find on Superdickery.com.

[TheCorpulent1]

Also, on an only vaguely related note: Have you noticed that Alan Scott has an eye patch now? WIth him being one of the head honchos of the new Checkmate, that's kind of laying on the S.H.E.I.L.D. parallels a little strong, don't you think?
Others noticed that, although I admit it slipped by me initially. For some reason I just don't equate Checkmate with SHIELD at all. It is pretty silly if they did that as an in-joke.

[The Question]

It seems odd. Especiall since Alan is technically a sentient construct, so he could just regenerate his eye by concentraiting on it.

[TheCorpulent1]

Yeah, some of us had a discussion about that a while back, too. I theorized that maybe, since Alan's always rejected the idea that he's no longer actually human, he subconsciously decided to leave his eye as it was after he'd lost it, since no normal human could just regrow an eye.

[The Question]

Good point. Still, the way they're handling it now, I'm half expecting this particular one eyed hero of WWII to start smoking cigars and swearing more.

[TheCorpulent1]

That'd really be overkill. At least he has both eyes when he's in costume.

[The Question]

That'd really be overkill.

Hey, I could see it happening. Easily. He's already got two things in common with Nick. And Rucka's got a weird sense of breaking the fourth wall humor.

[TheCorpulent1]

I hope it never happens. Alan's already got more than enough of his own identity to not need ham-fisted parallels to Nick Fury.

[GoldenAgeHero]

anyways im really digging this new direction geoff is develping for the book. and im really looking forward to the gl corps. it's really a shame that kyle is not in any of them. these are gonna be my main gl titles.

[TheCorpulent1]

What new direction? Silver Age, take 2?

[The Question]

I hope it never happens. Alan's already got more than enough of his own identity to not need ham-fisted parallels to Nick Fury.


If it ever did happen, it probably wouldn't go past the level of an in joke. I doubt he'd retool Alan's personality.