The Official Green Lantern Thread

[The Batman]

This thread is to talk about the new Hal book coming out, as well as Rebirth and the corps.

[jim lee's bat]

got any info or news about either series

[The Batman]

Hmmm:

1. Hal's getting a modified Costume. Wish I can post a link, but I cant.

2. He's getting a new job And new villains.

3. The Corps are back....

4. the theme of the title is fear and how to conquer it....

5. As for rebirth, its Written by Geoff Johns and Penciled by Ethan Van Schiver. It'll feature all the GL's, the Justice League, etc. Geoff's said that Batman is kind of a villain in this.

6. The Team for the regular book is Johns and Carlos Pacheco

[The Leaguer]

2. He's getting a new job And new villains.


I thought he wasn't getting new villains so much as the old villains were getting revamped?

[The Batman]

Nope, new villains and revamped villains. There's going to be a new version of Shark as well...

[The Batman]

http://emeralddawn.com/news/images/greenlanternnew.jpg


New GL outfit

[The Leaguer]

I remember an old Superman comic that had the subtitle "Jaws of the Shark!" on the cover. I remember buying it thinking "sweet, Superman is gonna fight Jaws!" I was disappointed. :(

[The Batman]

Supes would've torn him apart anyway.


Http://emeralddawn.com/images/newhalwog.jpg

Another look at the new Hal and kilowog suits

http://emeralddawn.com/images/newmask.gif

new mask resembles Superfriends

[TheCorpulent1]

I miss Hal's gray streaks. :(

I take it by Kilowog's costume that the new Corps is going to be using John's costume as their new "uniform." I'm wondering how Johns is gonna have Kilowog not kill Hal the moment he lays eyes on him, much less rejoin the Corps...

By Batman being a "sort of" villain, do you mean he's gonna be dogging Hal, just waiting for a sign that he's turning again? Batman's made no small secret of the fact that he thinks Hal pretty much used all his chances up when he became Parallax.

[Rob Lobo]

cool info, love the new custome and some it reminds me of the original Ultraman costume though :D

[Conundrum]

I haven't been collecting GL but I know the basic history of Hal and GL and Parallax. Do you think Rebirth will be a good jumping on point?

[TheCorpulent1]

Rebirth would be pretty much the perfect jumping-on point. If you have an interest in Kyle at all, you might also want to get the last few issues of the current GL series. I think the final arc began in #176 and will end with the series' ending in #181 this month.

[Conundrum]

OK, thanks. Hopefully they'll release trades for GL and I'll be able to buy those.

[The Batman]

I miss Hal's gray streaks. :(

I take it by Kilowog's costume that the new Corps is going to be using John's costume as their new "uniform." I'm wondering how Johns is gonna have Kilowog not kill Hal the moment he lays eyes on him, much less rejoin the Corps...

By Batman being a "sort of" villain, do you mean he's gonna be dogging Hal, just waiting for a sign that he's turning again? Batman's made no small secret of the fact that he thinks Hal pretty much used all his chances up when he became Parallax.


The suits have to be finalized, so kilowog wont look like that.


I dont really know how they'll make Batman the villain. They'll probably just have him be paranoid and stuff. You'd think Batman would forgive him after Hal used his powers to help him see his parents. Thats what i heard anyway.

I think everything will be figured out in Rebirth

[NightRiver]

http://emeralddawn.com/news/images/greenlanternnew.jpg


New GL outfit

The costume looks fine to me, but that mask bugs me. I looks like a green butterfly or moth was slapped on his face.

[Pyro Man]

What do you thinks gonna happen to Kyle?

[Darthphere]

I say Guy Gardner becomes leader of the Corps.;)

[BatMan87]

I thought Kilowog was killed by Hal during Emerld Twilight? Did he come back?

[NightRiver]

I thought Kilowog was killed by Hal during Emerld Twilight? Did he come back?

Most of the people that will supposedly come back were killed by Hal i think. He destroyed the whole corps and oa.

[TheCorpulent1]

I thought Kilowog was killed by Hal during Emerld Twilight? Did he come back?
Kilowog came back as a villain, then Kyle helped resurrect him fully, which returned him to normal.

[DavidTyler]

I'd rather see the Neal Adams version of the costume.

This one looks a little lame. At least we have the rough equivalent of Hal's costume.

[WildWing]

I'm wondering how Hal is just going to get his spot back in the corps, going off the deep end and killing a bunch people. Should be intresting to see what happens, but I certainly hope Kyle isn't going to be leaving us. All the Spider-Man comparisons that ppl have made seemto be true? On how this is a real guy with real problems, looking into what's happen with him recently. That's what got me intrested in picking up the GL book.

But with Hal coming back, makes me wonder how much room is left in the DCU for this many GL's. And that maybe one of the current GL's will have to become a sacrificial lamb. And with the success of the JLA cartoon's team line-up, I don't think John Stewart is going anywhere anytime soon, but hope it's Kyle isn't either...

[fifthfiend]

The thing with the 'real guy with real problems' deal is it really shouldn't apply to a book about a guy who's supposed to have a limitless imagination, an unbreakable will, and the most powerful weapon in creation.

Only thing that bugs me about Hal coming back is... well, the guy tried to destroy the entire goddamn universe. There's guys locked up for life because they killed two or three people -- it really should take a damn sight longer than ten years to redeem you for univercide. So, that aspect of bringing him back had better be damn well addressed.

[LadyVader]

Redemption is a funny thing.
:)

funny weird, not funny haha.

[Anti-Moderator]

Toyfare shows the new Green Lantern figures that are coming out next year, this line goes hand in hand with the new series and it showed Hal, Kilowag, Black Hand, and Parallax two heros and two villains, hhmmm....you think they are gonna pull some lets split the bad Hal persona from the good Hal and that will make everything alright do ya?
That would explain Hal looking so young now.

[Motown Marvel]

i've never read any GL. i always thought he was a cool character, but just never picked up the books, but i'm thiking of jumping on with the rebirth. recently, i picked up the TPB's of the GL/GA by O'neil and Adams...rad stuff!!

but do you guys have any suggestions for the necessary GL TPBs?

[TheCorpulent1]

Toyfare shows the new Green Lantern figures that are coming out next year, this line goes hand in hand with the new series and it showed Hal, Kilowag, Black Hand, and Parallax two heros and two villains, hhmmm....you think they are gonna pull some lets split the bad Hal persona from the good Hal and that will make everything alright do ya?
That would explain Hal looking so young now.
That would kind of suck...

[WildWing]

Can someone explain the history of Parallax? I'm a Marvel fan just now jumping into the DCU.

[TheCorpulent1]

Parallax is Hal Jordan after he goes insane.

Once upon a time, there were these dudes called Mongul and the Cyborg (Hank Henshaw, not to be confused with Vic Stone, who's a good guy called Cyborg). These dudes were some baaaaad dudes. They blew up this place called Coast City to make a new gladiator-type arena 'cause Mongul dug that kind of stuff. Hal Jordan, the Green Lantern of Earth at that time, wasn't really down with that 'cause he was from Coast City. So he returned to Coast City after the two bad dudes had been driven out to find it a charred, barren crater. But he's got the Green Lantern ring, the most powerful weapon in the universe. So he used it to basically reconstruct Coast City down to the most minute detail from his memories. The Guardians (little blue guys from Oa who were basically Hal's bosses) had a rule against that sort of thing that said "Thou shalt not use thy ring for personal gain."

When Hal's ring ran out of power, the Guardians sent a little hologram (made of the same green energy that powers the ring) to bring Hal in for judgment and punishment. But instead of going quietly, Hal absorbed the hologram's power and resurrected the city again. When that power supply ran out, he decided he needed all of the Guardians' power, so he went across the galaxy to Oa, killing Green Lanterns along the way, and absorbed the Central Power Battery, the source of all the GLs' power. By that time, he realized he'd gone too far over the edge, so he renamed himself Parallax and used all the Central Power Battery's energies to try and remake the universe.

[Bat-Mantis]

The Guardians (little blue guys from Oa who were basically Hal's bosses) had a rule against that sort of thing that said "Thou shalt not use thy ring for personal gain."Well, not just that. Hal was pretty insane by that point... you don't want a nutjob running around with the most powerful weapon in the universe. Plus what Hal was doing was futile anyway, the people he resurrected were mere constructs with no real independent mind, only running how Hal thought they should run... so Hal was only building himself up just to be crushed again. And unless the Guardians did something about it, he would just slip deeper into insanity. The humane thing to do would be to strip his powers from him and make him seek counseling or something.

[TheCorpulent1]

Yeah, but I was summarizing... :(

[Bat-Mantis]

Yeah I know. I just wanted to bring that up...

[WildWing]

Yeah that does seem pretty futile but at the same time sad... But he willingly and actively when nuts, this has really got me wondering how things are just going to be all "rosey" again when he comes back..?

[The Watchman]

i've never read any GL. i always thought he was a cool character, but just never picked up the books, but i'm thiking of jumping on with the rebirth. recently, i picked up the TPB's of the GL/GA by O'neil and Adams...rad stuff!!

but do you guys have any suggestions for the necessary GL TPBs?

Bascially my essential list (excluding theGL/GA stuff since you said you have it...read in this order or die)
Emerald Dawn I and II (Hal origin, sinestro stuff)
Legend of the Green Flame (neat little story by Neil Gaiman)
Emerald Twilight (Hal going nuts)
New Dawn (Kyle origin)
Emerald Knights (Time displaced Hal and Kyle)
Latest arc by Marz (just to wrap up Kyles character, I suspect...if you like Kyle, there are other good Tpbs, but not essential, Judd Winnick rules though)
Rebirth

[TheCorpulent1]

Yeah that does seem pretty futile but at the same time sad... But he willingly and actively when nuts, this has really got me wondering how things are just going to be all "rosey" again when he comes back..?
That's supposed to be addressed in Green Lantern: Rebirth. If it's not, Johns knows damn well that there's gonna be a boatload of fanboys tearing him a new one on message boards just like this one. He also knows that if he doesn't address it, he may as well stop calling himself a writer because he clearly has no idea how to construct a story. I think we can all agree that Johns has proven himself better than that. :)

[NightwingNut]

Trust in Johns, people. This is the guy that finally made Hawkman understandable for the first time in...well, ever!

[WildWing]

Well, Watchman, what do you mean by wrap up Kyle's charcater..? What you think DC is going to do with him. Like I said I'm a Marvel fan just getting into DC. And there are plenty of characters in thier universe who [were] popular at one time had their own books and what not. But then faded into oblivion, becoming a character that you know their around and doing stuff but rarely heard from. Only showing up to guest star in someone's elses book for whatever reason. I think Kyle deserves better than that.

[TheCorpulent1]

No one knows what will happen to Kyle. DC's keeping Rebirth pretty quiet right now.

[Motown Marvel]

Bascially my essential list (excluding theGL/GA stuff since you said you have it...read in this order or die)
Emerald Dawn I and II (Hal origin, sinestro stuff)
Legend of the Green Flame (neat little story by Neil Gaiman)
Emerald Twilight (Hal going nuts)
New Dawn (Kyle origin)
Emerald Knights (Time displaced Hal and Kyle)
Latest arc by Marz (just to wrap up Kyles character, I suspect...if you like Kyle, there are other good Tpbs, but not essential, Judd Winnick rules though)
Rebirth

THANKS! i'll be sure to check some of those out. neil gaiman writing GL??? thats gotta be cool!!!

and yes...winnick does rule! i would like to see him do a GL/GA mini-series!

[WildWing]

Hope this isn't going OT. But TheCorpulent1, you explained some stuff to me about Sentinel's origin before. Which left me with even more questions about his carreer thereafter. Since he found this "mining latern" and "ring" which would obviously have to be a central power battery and power ring, that maybe somehow got misplaced? Did the Guardians just decide to let him keep it, even though he isn't and never was a corps member or have they just turned a blind eye to it. And what is or was Hal,John and Kyle's attitude toward Sentinel

[TheCorpulent1]

I don't know about the Corps' involvement with Sentinel. I'm pretty sure ONE origin of the Starheart (Sentinel's power source) is that the Guardians took a bunch of ambient magic energy throughout the universe and put it together to create the Starheart as a power source for their GL Corps. They didn't like it because the energy was too raw, so they discarded it and it eventually crashed to Earth and found its way to Alan Scott. But I'm also pretty sure that that's not the only origin of the Starheart. I'm not sure which of the origins is currently canon, but if it's the one I described, the Guardians do have at least some connection to Sentinel. Although, as far as I know, they've been content to let Alan do his thing while they concern themselves with the Corps. Maybe yenaled or dk will know. Their GL knowledge far surpasses my own.

[yenaled]

You just about got it all there Corp. The only thing I can add is what Ron Marz added in Green Lantern Quartely #7.

There was a Green Lantern hundreds of years ago, called Yalan Gur who was one of the greatest Green Lantern in the universe. After being defeated by a yellow monster the Guardians stripped his power ring of its weakness against the colour yellow, thinking the weakness was a bit stupid really. Afterwards, however, Yalan Gur went a bit mad with power and began oppressing the Chinese villagers he was supposed to protect. The Guardians responded by secretly altering Yalan Gurs ring so that it was now ineffective against wood. The rebelling villagers were able to kill Yalan Gur with wooden clubs leaving him for dead.

Essentially, the Starheart meteor (which was the Guradian's attempt to remove all magic from the universe - both good and bad) collided with Yalan Gur's dying body (trapping him inside) and fell to Earth this joining of starheart and Yalan Gur became the Green Flame of Life that granted Alan Scott his power. The Magic came from the Starheart but the guiding consciousness was the tortured soul of Yalan Gur, which explains why the Green Flame influenced Alan to shape a lantern and ring from its metal - and the weakness against wood.

This explains it much better than I have (http://glcorps.dcuguide.com/yalan_gu.php).

[TheCorpulent1]

Ah, that makes a lot more sense. I always wondered where the weakness to wood came from.

I read something about the Starheart developing its own evil consciousness. Was that really the Starheart, or was it Yulan Gur's consciousness with its evil personality?

[yenaled]

I suppose it maybe a bit of both. The Starheart was all magic, both evil and good. So in a sense when it mixed with Yalan Gur's it could have enhanced the consciousness of the Starheart itself. I know the Starheart does have a consciousness, it has been written that it seeking out someone to hold it's power for millenia then found Yalan Gur, so it was conscious before murging with Yalan Gur.

There has been so many retcons and changes to the origin of Alan Scott It is confusing what really is going on. Just like a lot of things in comics, it is all to do with who is writing.

[The Leaguer]

So does that mean Alan Scott is magic-based, where as the other GL's are energy-based? In other words, would Superman be screwed if he were to fight Scott?

[TheCorpulent1]

The way people have explained Superman's magic weakness to me, I don't think so. The Starheart IS magical energy, but Alan doesn't cast any spells with it. According to people here on the boards, Superman is only susceptible to magic that specifically bends the rules of physics. If Zatanna were to cast a spell on Superman specifically, something like "Peels Namrepus" (Superman sleep), Superman would fall over asleep. If someone were to hit Superman with magic energy like the Starheart's, however, it'd just hit him like any other form of energy would hit him. There's nothing breaking the laws of physics, which state that Superman's pretty much invulnerable to stuff hitting him. At least, that's the way I understand it from hearsay. I could be totally wrong.

[Bat-Mantis]

The way people have explained Superman's magic weakness to me, I don't think so. The Starheart IS magical energy, but Alan doesn't cast any spells with it. According to people here on the boards, Superman is only susceptible to magic that specifically bends the rules of physics. If Zatanna were to cast a spell on Superman specifically, something like "Peels Namrepus" (Superman sleep), Superman would fall over asleep. If someone were to hit Superman with magic energy like the Starheart's, however, it'd just hit him like any other form of energy would hit him. There's nothing breaking the laws of physics, which state that Superman's pretty much invulnerable to stuff hitting him. At least, that's the way I understand it from hearsay. I could be totally wrong.Hmm. I know in Kingdom Come he cut himself with Wonder Woman's magic sword. But that IS an Elseworlds...
Anyway, I think the word "magic" is used generically when it comes to the Starheart. It's probably no more "magic" than the energy the other Green Lanterns use.

But to add to what was said before: the Starheart also merged with the Green Lanterns power battery and ring as well. Talan Gur’s life force merged with his power battery and the Starheart merged with the battery. I think the metal quality of the GL battery is what gave the Starheart its metal qualities.

[TheCorpulent1]

I figured Superman cut himself on Wonder Woman's sword in Kingdom Come because it was enchanted to cut through anything. That'd make sense and keep with the magic weakness as I described it.

[LadyVader]

When is Green Lantern 181 coming out?

[The Leaguer]

September 29th, according to dccomics.com.

[Bat-Mantis]

New issue today, I believe.
Also the last issue.
So... ladies and... all you other people, start your engines.
(AKA 'bump'.)

[TheCorpulent1]

I am all aquiver with anticipation. I hope Kyle doesn't kill Major Force, though.

[The Leaguer]

I really liked the final issue. Although it was a little less exciting to find out his mother was still alive, I was happy for Kyle. And I loved how he got rid of Force. A little cruel, sure, but the bastich deserved it. It looks like Kyle is gonna play space ranger from now on, although I think it was more a way to get rid of Kyle in anticipation of Hal than anything else. They put Kyle in space to make room for Hal on earth. I suppose its still possible for him to die in Rebirth, but I don't think its very likely. Assuming he doesn't die and is cemented in his new role as a space-faring GL, I'm kinda disappointed, because it would probably mean we'd see less of him as a supporting character, unless DC gives him another title of his own, which I would love. All-in-all, I thought this was a good ending to a great arc.

[TheCorpulent1]

Well, the way I see it, Kyle proclaims that "that part [the Earth part] of [his] life is over." I think that leaves the doors wide open for Kyle to be the man behind the new Corps, training them, offering them insight into what it means to be a Green Lantern and, even more than that, what it means to be a hero. The previous incarnation of the Corps was hampered by the fact that they were basically cops doing a job. Kyle took the ring, grew to understand the weight of the responsibility, and selflessly continued despite the fact that the "job" robbed him of more than it could ever repay him for. That message is definitely at the core of Marz's story and is encapsulated perfectly in this issue, and it's a valuable message for the new Corps' members to learn. I think Kyle, during his spacefaring after #181, will get caught up in Rebirth and come out the other end of it with the full blessing of Hal, Kilowog, and Ganthet, as well as their respect. He's got the perfect experience for training newbies: he went from just another guy to one of the most powerful and inspiring heroes in the universe without any training wheels.

[The Leaguer]

Oh, I agree, this throws the doors wide open for a new Corps, which I don't have a problem with except that it would seem like it would limit Kyle's later appearances, like I said before. I'd love to see a new series featuring Kyle and the new Corps, but I don't see it happening for a bit, at least until Hal's series gets off the ground.

[TheCorpulent1]

Yeah, same here. Kind of makes you wish JLU would go off the air so John's JLA spot could be freed up again, huh? ;)

[The Leaguer]

Yes! I need my monthly dose of Kyle, dammit.

[TheCorpulent1]

Now that we're actually on the eve of Hal's return and Kyle's involvement in the new book looks to be minimal at best... I find I'm missing him a lot more than I expected to. Maybe it's just because he's the GL I know the most about, so he's kind of safe, as opposed to Hal, who's the mysterious new guy for me.

[The Leaguer]

Kyle is my favorite character. :(

[LadyVader]

^ In Kyle we trust. :)
can't wait to read 181. I'm not reading spoilers and usually I'm a spoiler junkie but this time, I genuinly want to be surprised.

[Supergirl]

You won't be disappointed Lady V. ;)

[LadyVader]

Right you are... I was NOT disappointed.
OMG! He decapitated Major Force! Brilliant! What a creative and yet classic way to get rid of the purple bi@tch! He had me worried for a while. and how can he be sure his mother isn't really dead and Force was just lying to him? Shouldn't he check first before blasting off into space?
At the end of the day, I'm happy he stopped blaming the ring for everything and took back his life. Sorta reminded me of what Buffy went through in season 6. Life isn't bliss, life is just this... it's living:
Cos all of the stars
Are fading away
Just try not to worry
You'll see them some day
Take what you need
And be on your way
And stop crying your heart out
:up:

[Stikmann]

I'm a Kyle fan but I really have never liked the Corps. If he's to become just some ring leader to a bunch of lame aliens, I have no interest in that. I liked Kyle on Earth. To me, Kyle on Earth is like Batman in Gotham. It just works better. For me, this was a farewell to Green Lantern, who's been one of my favorite heroes since Kyle took over. I'm not going to bother with Rebirth as I have no interest in Hal Jordan or the GL Corps. And I have no intention of supporting a book that had to shunt my favorite character to the side, just to exist. I'm glad I got to enjoy Kyle while he was GL, and the star of the show. And I eagerly await the day they'll give him his own title again. Hopefully I won't have to wait ten years!

[Erzengel]

I started really reading about Green Lantern when he first came on after Hal went crazy.

Now here is my question and I don't feel like looking this up so bare with me. Would everhone besides the fans be so accepting that he returned? Even Batman has constantly reminded him of what he did.

But all his fans seem to think he can just come back in as if he didn't do anything wrong. Welcome back Hal, here's your membership back into the JLA and we will just get rid of John. Does anyone know or have any ideas of how he is going to be intigrated back not even in continuity but back into trust with everyone?

[TheCorpulent1]

That's what Rebirth is supposed to cover. Johns has made it clear in several interviews that he's well aware of the fact that Hal's gonna have Parallax hanging over his head for the rest of how many ever lives DC sees fit to give him. One of the questions in a Wizard interview actually dealt with whether Hal would be coming back with a clean slate and Johns said something like no because it makes the character so much more interesting to have that baggage to put behind him.

[NightRiver]

This issue was a great closing to a good arc. Its perfect how it ends with the lead in to Rebirth. What kyle did to the Major Barney was classic! I can almost hear him yelling in space for eternity! Or until hes picked up by an evil alien scientist and attached to a powerfull body or something.

Well if Kyle gets his own book, most likely it will deal with the corps, which is ok if done right. But im with Stikmann, I think Kyle belongs on Earth not rounding up aliens for a corps.

[I am Batman]

Hey can anyone here tell me all the Green Lantern trades that have Hal Jordan in it? I want to read about him before his return.

[TheCorpulent1]

I don't know all of them, but I'm sure some of the first anyone's gonna recommend to you are the Hard-Traveling Heroes trades that feature Hal and Green Arrow.

[NightRiver]

Hey can anyone here tell me all the Green Lantern trades that have Hal Jordan in it? I want to read about him before his return.

I suggest two:

Green Lantern:Willworld
Green Lantern: Legacy: The Last Will and Testament of Hal Jordan

[Nightcrawler17]

Great issue, and loved how Kyle dealt with Major Force. With what happened at the end of the issue, I hope this does'nt mean we won't get to see Kyle anymore, he's been the Green Lantern I've grown up with, even though I'm glad Hal's coming back, I want Kyle to still be around.

[Anubis]

Emerald Dawn, Emerald Dawn II, The Road back, Emerald Twilight/New Dawn, GL/GA vol I and II, Willworld, Legacy last will and testament. Don't know if there is more, but I got all of them.

[The Watchman]

Legend of the Green Flame

[TheCorpulent1]

Which trade's the one where Kyle teams up with a younger Hal, from before he became Parallax?

[LadyVader]

Emerald Knights?

[jaydawg]

was there even much of a demand for hal to come back anyways? And although I know they wont do it, I hope John and Bats give Hal a good asskicking....

[TheCorpulent1]

Batman I could see, since he's probably anxiously been planning away in the hopes that Hal will return so he'll get a chance to kick his ass, but John couldn't kick Hal's ass on his best day.

[Erzengel]

was there even much of a demand for hal to come back anyways? And although I know they wont do it, I hope John and Bats give Hal a good asskicking....
You had a lot of Hal fan's been waiting 10 years for this return. Imagine them taking Superman or Batman (Clark and Bruce) out not a year which they have done but 10 years.

Hal going insane, Kyle and Parallax and the Spector really pissed off the Hal fans.

But there has been a lot of complaining over the past 10 years and fans of Hal will finally get their wish.

Also a recent wizard poll had Kyle and Hal almost even who should be GL. I voted for Kyle.

I see Batman being one of the biggest doubters of Hal's return. I don't even seen how Hal could make it into the JL if Batman has a say in it.

[The Watchman]

I hope Batman kills him.

[Johnny Blaze]

That would be pretty funny. :D

[Unthinkable]

I hope Hal ***** slaps Batman.

[ThePenguin]

Why does everyone hate Hal? Hal is/was/and always will be the greatest Green Lantern of all time. Im gonna get flamed for this but IMO Guy was always an a-hole, John was a pretty boring character, and Kyle was a whiny annoying little kid. I was pretty pissed off when DC decided to have Hal go crazy. And, I, for one, am pretty damn happy they're bringing him back.

[The Watchman]

Hal is a one dimensional character, but I trust in Johns...

[Anubis]

They don't hate him. Most have never even read anything about Hal as GL. They're just pissed cause Kyle is not the main GL anymore. Same as all the Hal fans when they pulled the switch 10 years ago. Now, think about it, 10 years of Kyle Rayner. You now have a large group of comic fans who have only known Kyle. And now, after growing to love the character, suddenly they dump him for the old one that went nuts and wasted half the universe. You should at least understand they're plight. After all, if anyone should feel sympathetic about characters getting screwed over, its the Hal Jordan fans.

[The Watchman]

Im a fan of both honestly, I grew up with Hal, he was actually my favorite character, but in retrospect he was very boring, one-dimensional, Kyle was a better character in my eyes, more than anything Im simply looking foreward to Johns writing the character.

[batnkevlar]

Yeah, maybe Kyle is more dimensional, but they could expand Hal, rather than having a Peter-Parker-esque Kyle...

[The Watchman]

The thing thats going to add the most depth is his struggle with what hes done as parrallax, so theres certainly room for growth.

[Unthinkable]

What! Hal, 1 dimensional?! Did ANYONE read GL/GA? That was revoultionary!

[The Watchman]

GL/GA was great for its time, but it doesn't hold up to modern stories.

[batnkevlar]

Green Lantern and Green Arrow was good... I hope Ollie and Hal team up some more when Hal comes back...

[Supergirl]

What! Hal, 1 dimensional?! Did ANYONE read GL/GA? That was revoultionary!
Yes I have read GL/GA, and found Hal extremely dull and *gasp* "1 dimensional" Ollie carried that title, and in fact thats WHY Ollie was brought into Hal's title. TO SAVE A LAGGING BOOK.

[LadyVader]

They don't hate him. Most have never even read anything about Hal as GL. They're just pissed cause Kyle is not the main GL anymore. Same as all the Hal fans when they pulled the switch 10 years ago. Now, think about it, 10 years of Kyle Rayner. You now have a large group of comic fans who have only known Kyle. And now, after growing to love the character, suddenly they dump him for the old one that went nuts and wasted half the universe. You should at least understand they're plight. After all, if anyone should feel sympathetic about characters getting screwed over, its the Hal Jordan fans.

*claps*

:)

[jaydawg]

The only thing good that ever happened to the Hal Jordan character WAS Parallax. If so many people loved him, why was his book constantly cancelled? Where were the fans there? I've read alot of things with hal as one of the central characters and the only ones I cared for were JLA: Year One and Quiver. JLA year one was good because of the characters around Hal showing how 1 dimensional he is and in Quiver he wasnt a GL, but Parallax and later on, Specter. I'd be pissed if some replaced Spidey for 10 years, but he was never a one dimensional character, even in the 60s. Hal was/ is and everyone knows it. It doesnt matter he was the GL since 60s, he was always boring and uninteresting. If the writters made comic book John the badass he is on the JL cartoon, there wouldnt be a need to bring back Hal. Just the idea of him coming back is as a hero joke. If doesnt matter whose writting the story, its a retarded idea. The man tried to wipe the universe and recreate it in his own image- like Imperiex. He killed all the Corps. Its one thing when an insane man kills a cop and is reformed back into society. Its another when you wipe out an entire presinct, or in this case everysingle cop in the world. I don't care whose writting the tale, I'll never accept the idea of a reformed Hal taking the place of Kyle as the GL of earth.

[Franklin Richards]

Maybe if you grew up with Hal you'd feel different. Superman is pretty one dimensional. Batman isn't that complex. Kyle isn't that complex either. He's been slowly turning into Hal Jordan anyway over the last ten years.

I'm glad Hal is coming back. One thing you are correct about is that this new dimension of Hal being a former killer will add to his character. And maybe that's what DC is trying to do.

:thing: :doom: :thing:

[The Watchman]

Sorry Petunia, but if you put Hal on Bruce and Clarks complexity level then I really can't take your opinion seriously.

[TheCorpulent1]

Hal could be as complex as Clark or Bruce. The material's there, it's just that no one's mined it in a way that's instantly memorable yet, like they have with Batman in Year One and Superman in "For the Man Who Has Everything" and "Whatever Happened to the Man of Tomorrow?" and other stories.

[The Watchman]

They tried making him less boring with the alcoholic thing, didnt work, he really needs an update, bring him outta the silver-age, and if anyone could do it, its Johns. Honestly Im just sick of #1's...

[batnkevlar]

True, Corpulent. Have you ever thought about playing the DCU RPG, Corpulent? If you read it right now, Hal Jordan just kicked Sinestro's ass and incinerated him...

[Erzengel]

In World's Finest, there was a scene where Superman visits Batman after the death of Jason and informs him that he killed the Kryptonians and basically Batman is disgusted and tells him to get out. Yadda yadda they talk and everything is okay. Is there any other story which deals with this story line in respect to how Batman views Superman?

This is what Hal will have to deal with. Superman has always struck me as the forgiving type. Even when Hal came back during Final Night, Superman wasn't hesitant when he offered to help but of course Batman mistrusted him.

[BULLITT]

Thanks for posting the pic Batman, but I don't see what's new. It looks exactly like Hal's costume before he went beserk.

[yenaled]

Look harder. No pants.

[yenaled]

This was the best place I could find to post this;

GREEN LANTERN REBIRTH #4 PREVIEW (http://www.popcultureshock.com/reviews.php?id=3892)

I don't know about the rest of you but I am officially the most excited person in the world right now....

...I'm going to go lay down somewhere.

[Feral Wolverine]

I need a cigarette.....And a towel.

[Supergirl]

Holy sh** that makes me force myself to save money for Wednesday...

[The Watchman]

I need a cigarette.....And a towel.

The feelings mutual...

[Dr.Fear]

holy **** what do you guys is gonna happen.

[The Watchman]

That's gotta be the best cover yet...

[Feral Wolverine]

holy **** what do you guys is gonna happen.


Sinestro and GA are going fight it out and hal comes in at the end to join the fight.


Taking into account what Sinestro said, all those constructs of Coast City and Hal's parents were Sinestro and Prallax gaining control. That feakin awesome!

[yenaled]

I still think Gathnet is under Parallax controll.

Would explain why he ordered Kyle to be stabbed and killed at the end of Ben Raab's run.

[Emerald Knight]

Holy Crap! I cannot wait for this to finally be released.

[storyteller]

so the only difference in hals suit is a new mask?

[Supergirl]

Its got sharper cuts too ;)

[Supergirl]

http://members.aol.com/missywils/melissa/Hal.gif

See how the armpit area is rounded there?

http://www.emeralddawn.com/images/newhalwog.jpg

This is the new one with sharper design ;)

[yenaled]

No pants.

Looks excellent in my opinion.

[Manwithoutpeer]

When does GL #5 come out? This is the best book out there right now. It's great watching Johns set up multiple plotlines, I have to read each issue several times to make sure I catch everything. I hope he stays on GL for 4 or 5 years!

[yenaled]

GL#5 isn't out till November 5th.

It's fastly becoming one of the biggest casulties of Infinite Crisis.

I'm sure the delays will stop when Geoff Johns gets more time.

[Manwithoutpeer]

Yeah, I read that after Infinite Crisis he is gonna give more time to his ongoing monthly comics. It sucks that a comic this great is being plagued by lateness.

[yenaled]

I hate to again be the bearer of bad news, but Green Lantern has yet again suffered another set back.

Green Lantern #5 is planned for November 16, 2005.
Green Lantern #6 is planned for December 21, 2005.
Green Lantern #7 is planned for December 28, 2005.
Green Lantern #8 is planned for January 25, 2006.

So much for two issues in a row in November. Honestly the delays are now past a joke, anyone would think Kevin Smith was writing them.

Apparantly it is all Ethan's fault. Hopefully once the art team changes we can actually have a Green Lantern monthly again. Shame because Ethans work on the title is amazing.

The curse of Hal Jordan strikes again.

[yenaled]

Green Lantern #6 pencils from Simone Bianchi.

http://img508.imageshack.us/img508/9341/gl6017op.jpg

...wow.

[The Joker™]

I bought all the rebirth stuff and the secret files and GL #1, but thats where I stopped.

Planing to pick up the last 5 issues that came out since then, this week.

Mostly because of the cover of number 6, mostly.

[GoldenAgeHero]

has anyone read the solicits to green lantern number, batman might get a gl ring!

[TheCorpulent1]

I saw it and I was immediately turned off. 1) We've already seen it in the Batman: In Darkest Knight Elseworld, and 2) giving Batman powers makes him even worse than the dreaded prep time does now.

[yenaled]

I saw it and I was immediately turned off. 1) We've already seen it in the Batman: In Darkest Knight Elseworld, and 2) giving Batman powers makes him even worse than the dreaded prep time does now.

Yeah it kind of annoyed me too. We'll see where it goes.

While I'm here:

New cover for GL10 (with correct ring now).

http://img78.imageshack.us/img78/7421/glcv10b8ab.jpg

And page 4 for #7.

http://img313.imageshack.us/img313/483/gl704a9hf.jpg

Also right from Geoff:

Green Lantern 7, 8 and 9 will be coming out within the next 6 weeks through the end of February. Carlos did a spectacular job on the Mongul story and Ethan's Batman and GL team-up...it's not quite what you're going to expect and I can't wait for it to hit the stands.

Hopefully that means Feburary is GL month.

[TheCorpulent1]

Man, what is going on with Pacheco?? That page looks awful for him. I hope it's just because he's rushing to get them out on time. I don't know what I'd do if Pacheco were actually losing his touch. :(

What ring was Hal wearing on the cover before?

[yenaled]

It was just wrong, the logo wasn't in a circle.

http://www.newsarama.com/dcnew/editors/GreenLanternCv10.jpg

I actually prefer that colouring job personally, but nice to see artists and colourists care about the ring shape.

I thought the Pacheco art was weird too, I'd like him to actually do more Green Lantern work but apparantly he asked to leave when he heard EVS was moving on.

[TheCorpulent1]

Pacheco asked to leave when he heard Ethan Van Sciver was moving to Superman/Batman? :confused:

Yeah, I found an older version of the cover after I posted. I'm glad they cared enough to show Hal wearing his old-school ring. I also like the older coloring more. I like how it's washed out with green. It makes it feel like Hal's ring is glowing more.

[yenaled]

http://img467.imageshack.us/img467/3085/glcv9alta2zj.jpg

Cover for #9.

Looks nice but can't say I'm bothered about the story, yet, Batman with a Green Lantern ring really doesn't interest me.

[Marvin]

looks like the ring finally found someone worthy...

brains and will
sounds good to me

[TheCorpulent1]

Weak sauce. Batman doesn't need to be a GL. Also, shouldn't the Guardians be kind of wary of him? Parallax itself noted that Bruce was one of its "disciples." The man wraps himself in fear and is diametrically opposed to light. :o

[Marvin]

question

can the GL corps defend their planet from Galactus and his herald(sp)????

[Marvin]

Weak sauce. Batman doesn't need to be a GL. Also, shouldn't the Guardians be kind of wary of him? Parallax itself noted that Bruce was one of its "disciples." The man wraps himself in fear and is diametrically opposed to light. :o



I guess that means Doc Doom would be a bad choice as well?

[TheCorpulent1]

Dr. Doom doesn't rely on darkness, shadows, and fear the way Batman does. :confused: He packs actual power comparable to Iron Man's in his armor, he's a great sorcerer, and he's got an entire nation of resoures at his disposal. How is that even remotely similar to Batman, who represents almost everything the GL oath denounces?
question

can the GL corps defend their planet from Galactus and his herald(sp)????
The entire Corps? Hell yeah, if they worked together against Galactus. The herald would fold like a bad poker player within 2 minutes against 7200 Green Lanterns.

[Varient]

question

can the GL corps defend their planet from Galactus and his herald(sp)????
LOL

If it OA,.. One Guardian would puase from playing checkers with Guy Gardner To swat Galactus and his Herald into the ajoining Galaxy.

If it were earth,... Any one of the GL's even the **** could handle the Herald,... While two or three gl's would push galactus through a warp into somewhere he'd have issue with,.. (event horizon of a Black Hole, Surface of a Gas Giant, Between Galaxies, etc,..) with a warning that they would kill witha a lil remorse if he wandered that way again.

[Marvin]

they way ya'll make it sound, it's like silver surfer would be owned by a lantern...

they may loath batman, but he'd still be the best one

[Marvin]

and wait...isn't galactus like the power cosmic personified?

all the power the surfer has is like a miinoote percentage of him?

I'm sure ganthat is crazy and all
and he's one of the six(or 5, can't remember) guys that protects the universe and he can make champions...like the wizard shazam..

but so can galactus...right?

[TheCorpulent1]

I think Varient's overstating it a bit. I'm not sure exactly how much power the Guardians are packing these days, but I doubt it'd be that easy to get rid of Galactus. Although, if you think about it in terms of power distribution, Galactus lends portions of his power to about 10 other characters--Silver Surfer, Terrax, Morg, Tyrant, Air-Walker, Firelord, Stardust, Nova, the first herald (whose name I can't remember), and probably a few other heralds I can't remember at the moment--and those few other characters are some of the most powerful in the universe. The Guardians lend portions of their power to 7200 other characters, rendering them some of the most powerful beings in the universe. You do the math.

And I never said Batman wouldn't make a good GL. Obviously he's got loads of willpower and, given his arsenal and his plans, lots of imagination. But everything else about Batman's character runs completely opposite to everything about the Green Lantern Corps as a concept and an institution. His being a GL doesn't make any sense. It's not how he operates and, more likely than not, the Guardians wouldn't want someone like him as a GL. Hal was perfectly stable and normal before he got the ring and look what happened to him; imagine what might happen to a guy who's already a borderline sociopath.

[yenaled]

I have the feeling Batman won't really be a GL, I think it will all tie into Hector Hammond.

That's my hope anyway, I don't want Batman having a GL ring in continuity.

[Varient]

they way ya'll make it sound, it's like silver surfer would be owned by a lantern...

they may loath batman, but he'd still be the best one

All things being Equal,.. A green Lantern should Own the surfer,.. since they deal with willpower and imagination to manipulate a powersource that even spread among 7200 beings is great enough to maintain the atmosphere around the planet Earth,... Contain a star Going Nova, Move Planets around,... things the Surfer has never done.

Of course being a fan-fav,.. the Surfer is ALWAYS written as powerfull enough to take a lantern.

He or any Herald would get Owned by the GL corps,.. and Galactus would have worse than a bad hair day trying to come eat OA,.. It would only take one Guardian to driive him off.

[Varient]

I think Varient's overstating it a bit. I'm not sure exactly how much power the Guardians are packing these days, but I doubt it'd be that easy to get rid of Galactus. Although, if you think about it in terms of power distribution, Galactus lends portions of his power to about 10 other characters--Silver Surfer, Terrax, Morg, Tyrant, Air-Walker, Firelord, Stardust, Nova, the first herald (whose name I can't remember), and probably a few other heralds I can't remember at the moment--and those few other characters are some of the most powerful in the universe. The Guardians lend portions of their power to 7200 other characters, rendering them some of the most powerful beings in the universe. You do the math.

And I never said Batman wouldn't make a good GL. Obviously he's got loads of willpower and, given his arsenal and his plans, lots of imagination. But everything else about Batman's character runs completely opposite to everything about the Green Lantern Corps as a concept and an institution. His being a GL doesn't make any sense. It's not how he operates and, more likely than not, the Guardians wouldn't want someone like him as a GL. Hal was perfectly stable and normal before he got the ring and look what happened to him; imagine what might happen to a guy who's already a borderline sociopath.

That's what I was thinking when I said it,.. Galactus doesn't have 7200 Heralds, The Guardians do,.... Galactus feeds on planets, the Guardians manipulate an Energy Field that can restart stars.


He would get his feelings hurt.

[Emerald Knight]

what about Mogo? ;)

[Silicon Surfer]

I think Varient's overstating it a bit. I'm not sure exactly how much power the Guardians are packing these days, but I doubt it'd be that easy to get rid of Galactus. Although, if you think about it in terms of power distribution, Galactus lends portions of his power to about 10 other characters--Silver Surfer, Terrax, Morg, Tyrant, Air-Walker, Firelord, Stardust, Nova, the first herald (whose name I can't remember), and probably a few other heralds I can't remember at the moment--and those few other characters are some of the most powerful in the universe. The Guardians lend portions of their power to 7200 other characters, rendering them some of the most powerful beings in the universe. You do the math.

And I never said Batman wouldn't make a good GL. Obviously he's got loads of willpower and, given his arsenal and his plans, lots of imagination. But everything else about Batman's character runs completely opposite to everything about the Green Lantern Corps as a concept and an institution. His being a GL doesn't make any sense. It's not how he operates and, more likely than not, the Guardians wouldn't want someone like him as a GL. Hal was perfectly stable and normal before he got the ring and look what happened to him; imagine what might happen to a guy who's already a borderline sociopath. What do mean borderline? It might not be that easy to defeat Galactus. Galactus not only eats power he has a vastly superhuman mind that might be capable of taking over control of the emerald energy from the lanterns and possibly even the guardians. Mantis of Apokalips once sucked the energy right out of Hal's ring when Hal tried to fight him and left the ring empty and depowered. Galactus is way beyond that.

[Varient]

What do mean borderline? It might not be that easy to defeat Galactus. Galactus not only eats power he has a vastly superhuman mind that might be capable of taking over control of the emerald energy from the lanterns and possibly even the guardians. Mantis of Apokalips once sucked the energy right out of Hal's ring when Hal tried to fight him and left the ring empty and depowered. Galactus is way beyond that.
.........................................
Apples and oranges,.. a writer would have to "twist" the way the Green Lantern tech works before you go there.

Up until recently,.. The green power couldn't be "drained" or "absorbed" and used by anything outside of OA. And if Galactus could do different sorts of power,.. why isn't he camped out near a Blue-White Star? ANY Star in our Galaxy emits more energy than the total possible from any living planet PER SECOND.

Nowadays Photon was able to suck the power out of a GL ring,.. and a GL ring was able to recharge from some Marvel comics device,... BLEH.

Bottom line,... Any group who can field their power out to thousands of ring bearers who could all move planets with that power is not gonna have issue with a being that can only eat planets.

And for a "superhuman mind" Galactus has done some pretty boneheaded stuff. If he could manipulate energy,.. He wouldn't need to "eat" planets, He wouldn't need to have some guy go find him planets to eat.

[Quantum_Goddess]

That's what I was thinking when I said it,.. Galactus doesn't have 7200 Heralds, The Guardians do,.... Galactus feeds on planets, the Guardians manipulate an Energy Field that can restart stars.


He would get his feelings hurt.

To base it on the whole Herald member count and what he eats theory is a little on the misleading side.

You gotta put that into context. Simply because Galactus doesn't have a bazillion heralds doesn't mean he can't. He's not looking to start the "Herald Corps." or something. Only certain beings who give themselves to his cause to look for planets for him to devour are heralds. Even then, he's picky as hell. Chances are, if you followed him, people would offer it to him, but he'd pass it up, seeing how he has other heralds, and just eat the planet.

As for the whole, "He only eats planets, what is he going to do to Guardians?" That kind of brings up the whole, "Why does he eat planets?" Which has to go with, "Which planets does he eat and why?"

See, Galactus can only eat certain things. That's like, why don't you eat rocks and other inorganic things? Technically, they contain most of the elements you need to survive. If it was just raw power he needed, then sure, he'd go around eating stars. There's millions of more stars in our galaxy alone than there are planets. Possibly billions. And if he could just eat ANY planet, he would've never seen Earth in the lifetime of the human race. Most comics featuring the reason why Galactus eats planets is that he consumes their actual life energy. Since he originated in the center of the universe, and our place in the universe, according to Marvel, really isn't that close at all. Factor it in, one planet a month, billions of planets, possibly trillions, before Earth. And don't forget the planet materials in the asteroids he could eat as a snack. Some comics say he consumes the forms of Celestials, who are basically as far above "gods", as "gods" are above simple ants on the ground. So going off the whole, "He only eats planets, what's he gonna do?" theory isn't just all that great.

Galactus himself wields all forms and levels of the power cosmic. To levels nobody can even imagine in the MU. Few things hold on par with him, and even fewer things are more powerful than he is. I believe only the Living Tribunal, and the One Above All are more powerful than he is. Which would basically be the most powerful being in the universe that delegates power balance, and the one who created the universe itself. I actually think Eternity is more powerful too. Maybe. I haven't really seen many feats of Eternity.

When he bestowed the power cosmic on the Silver Surfer, he wasn't delegating his own power as some sort of broadcast to the Silver Surfer, he connected the Silver Surfer, to a great extent, to the power cosmic itself, making him one with it. A thing he wouldn't do to the same extent ever again. Galactus' own powers make the Silver Surfer look like a little tadpole in an 8 oz. cup, with Galactus dropping a hydrogen bomb on top of it. As easily as he gave power to Norrin, he could take it away. But since it's of no real consequence for Norrin to have that power or not, he doesn't. He has the ability to grant life to inanimate objects, as well as bring those back from the dead if there's a body for it. (StormBreaker: Saga of Beta Ray Bill. The Alpha Ray.) His heralds can destroy planets pretty much all on their own. Except some of the weaker ones like Terrax. Silver Surfer has that power, and Stardust has that power. In fact, Stardust has the power to turn living beings into the stuff that makes stars, courtesy of Galactus. There's only a few sure fire ways to stop Galactus, but it requires objects that also have the power to destroy the universe. Extreme measures of power haven't ever seemed to have much more than dented Galactus' armor. (Though I hear that may have changed in the mini Galactus: The Devourer. I still need to read that. x.x But I only heard that his armor came off, and he just reverted to his true form, only to put his armor back on, and become the almighty Galactus again.) Odin, king of the Norse Gods, weilder of the omnipotent Odinforce, could only pretty much match up against Thanos. Thanos considers the Silver Surfer to be his greatest threat. And as Corpulent1 has pointed out in another thread, Thanos is pretty much a lazy plot device villan that's just suppossed to be so ungodly powerful, and capable of pretty much anything.

Long long long point short. You can't say a few things about Galactus without saying the WHOLE thing.

[Silicon Surfer]

Galactus can absorb any kind of energy but most of it is only " empty calories".For "nutrition" he needs the energy that makes life possible. As I understand it it is not life energy itself that sustains him although he wouldn't let it go to waste if he's destroying the planet anyway.

[LibrarianThorne]

Surfer is greater than any one Lantern. Yes, he could probably take on all of Earth's Green Lanterns and win rather handily. It's when you get outnumbered 7199: 1 that Surfer's going to have problems.

However, attacking Oa itself is another matter entirely. The Guardians of the Universe wield tremendous power (enough that, say, punking other cosmic beings is child's play to them), and on top of that you've got the 7200 man Corps featuring, you know, Mogo.

All the Lanterns and Guardians will beat Galactus and his Herald.

[Marvin]

The really interesting thing is...Ion!
(like neo)

is the key here

he is the embodiment of all of the green lantern energy...oa's nrg...

he can essentially create life..

could he

blink Galactus out of existance?

[TheCorpulent1]

I don't think even Ion's that powerful.

I wouldn't say the Surfer could beat all of Earth's GLs at once, either. I agree that he's got more power than any single Lantern, but if the Lanterns are being written at the top of their game, he doesn't have that much more power than they have. The GLs have pulled off some pretty amazing stuff with their rings, and the Earth GLs are the best the Corps has to offer. Kyle, John, Guy, and Hal would take the Surfer down, in my opinion.

[The Leaguer]

Ion would totally blink Galactus out of existance. He'd be like, "dude, that costume sucks" and then be like "peace," then Galactus would go away and then Kyle would do that to Jade, too.

[Varient]

To base it on the whole Herald member count and what he eats theory is a little on the misleading side..[/COLOR][/COLOR][/SIZE][/FONT]

No,... It's not,... Galactus in his powers and abilities as far as what he can and cannot do is very inconsistant.

Just ready the saga of Frankie Ray,... you find out that Galactus isn't too powerful as he had to take a meta-human and tweak her to be a Herald because he was "too weak" to do a complete chane from baseline human.

That tells me that he doesn't have the juice to support / create more than a few heralds at a time. I state that based on Marvel Canon,.. he couldn't field 50 "herald-class" beings at once,.. let alone thousands like the Guardians do,... He doesn't have the power.
In ref to "what he eats?"
How come the Surfer is able to "create Life" and Make it so Shalla-bal could walk on a dead planet and bring it back to life,.. yet Galactus, the person who tied him to the power Cosmic which makes his powers possible can't do the same to feed himself?


You gotta put that into context. Simply because Galactus doesn't have a bazillion heralds doesn't mean he can't. He's not looking to start the "Herald Corps." or something. Only certain beings who give themselves to his cause to look for planets for him to devour are heralds. Even then, he's picky as hell. Chances are, if you followed him, people would offer it to him, but he'd pass it up, seeing how he has other heralds, and just eat the planet.

As for the whole, "He only eats planets, what is he going to do to Guardians?" That kind of brings up the whole, "Why does he eat planets?" Which has to go with, "Which planets does he eat and why?"

See, Galactus can only eat certain things. That's like, why don't you eat rocks and other inorganic things? Technically, they contain most of the elements you need to survive. If it was just raw power he needed, then sure, he'd go around eating stars. There's millions of more stars in our galaxy alone than there are planets. Possibly billions. And if he could just eat ANY planet, he would've never seen Earth in the lifetime of the human race. Most comics featuring the reason why Galactus eats planets is that he consumes their actual life energy. Since he originated in the center of the universe, and our place in the universe, according to Marvel, really isn't that close at all. Factor it in, one planet a month, billions of planets, possibly trillions, before Earth. And don't forget the planet materials in the asteroids he could eat as a snack. Some comics say he consumes the forms of Celestials, who are basically as far above "gods", as "gods" are above simple ants on the ground. So going off the whole, "He only eats planets, what's he gonna do?" theory isn't just all that great.
Bottom line here?
In feats,... Galactus falls shorts of what the Guardians do on the regular when they could be bothered,.....
Marvel almost always falls short when compared to DC because DC works in Absolutes - The main reason that Superman Beats out Thor, Flash Beats Out Quicksilver, Wonderwoman beats out Rogue, / Storm, / Ms. Marvel,/ She-Hulk, etc,...
They are Iconic - you just don't have powerful equiv's in Marvel,.. And the ones you do fill niches with real narrow parameters,... Phoenix comes to mind.

The Surfer is extremely powerful on a personal level,.. but falls short when dealing with someone who can keep up with him,.. mimic most of his effects, and out power him on the short-run.
(I give him his Props,.. I understand that the Surfer limits himself as to how much cosmic energy he uses at one time,.. there seems to be a reduction of intelligence in direct proportion to how much he pumps into himself for use. So in a long fight, surfer would keep ramping up until he could beat THAT Lantern.)

Galactus himself wields all forms and levels of the power cosmic. To levels nobody can even imagine in the MU. Few things hold on par with him, and even fewer things are more powerful than he is. I believe only the Living Tribunal, and the One Above All are more powerful than he is. Which would basically be the most powerful being in the universe that delegates power balance, and the one who created the universe itself. I actually think Eternity is more powerful too. Maybe. I haven't really seen many feats of Eternity.

When he bestowed the power cosmic on the Silver Surfer, he wasn't delegating his own power as some sort of broadcast to the Silver Surfer, he connected the Silver Surfer, to a great extent, to the power cosmic itself, making him one with it. A thing he wouldn't do to the same extent ever again. Galactus' own powers make the Silver Surfer look like a little tadpole in an 8 oz. cup, with Galactus dropping a hydrogen bomb on top of it. As easily as he gave power to Norrin, he could take it away. But since it's of no real consequence for Norrin to have that power or not, he doesn't. He has the ability to grant life to inanimate objects, as well as bring those back from the dead if there's a body for it. (StormBreaker: Saga of Beta Ray Bill. The Alpha Ray.) His heralds can destroy planets pretty much all on their own. Except some of the weaker ones like Terrax. Silver Surfer has that power, and Stardust has that power. In fact, Stardust has the power to turn living beings into the stuff that makes stars, courtesy of Galactus. There's only a few sure fire ways to stop Galactus, but it requires objects that also have the power to destroy the universe. Extreme measures of power haven't ever seemed to have much more than dented Galactus' armor. (Though I hear that may have changed in the mini Galactus: The Devourer. I still need to read that. x.x But I only heard that his armor came off, and he just reverted to his true form, only to put his armor back on, and become the almighty Galactus again.) Odin, king of the Norse Gods, weilder of the omnipotent Odinforce, could only pretty much match up against Thanos. Thanos considers the Silver Surfer to be his greatest threat. And as Corpulent1 has pointed out in another thread, Thanos is pretty much a lazy plot device villan that's just suppossed to be so ungodly powerful, and capable of pretty much anything.

Long long long point short. You can't say a few things about Galactus without saying the WHOLE thing.

Sigh,.. We are gonna go back and forth on this ain't we?

[Quantum_Goddess]

No,... It's not,... Galactus in his powers and abilities as far as what he can and cannot do is very inconsistant.

Just ready the saga of Frankie Ray,... you find out that Galactus isn't too powerful as he had to take a meta-human and tweak her to be a Herald because he was "too weak" to do a complete chane from baseline human.

That tells me that he doesn't have the juice to support / create more than a few heralds at a time. I state that based on Marvel Canon,.. he couldn't field 50 "herald-class" beings at once,.. let alone thousands like the Guardians do,... He doesn't have the power.
In ref to "what he eats?"
How come the Surfer is able to "create Life" and Make it so Shalla-bal could walk on a dead planet and bring it back to life,.. yet Galactus, the person who tied him to the power Cosmic which makes his powers possible can't do the same to feed himself?

One. Show me in Marvel Canon, or get someone else to support the whole "50 herald" limit. Second, and I can't believe I have to say this again. It's a certain energy Galactus feeds upon. One unspecified. And since it's unspecified, and it's probably damn rare (considering how much life there seems to be out in the universe) he can't just go around eating life. And the lack of knowledge on your part shows me you probably don't know TOO much about Galactus than the rather most obvious parts.

Bottom line here?
In feats,... Galactus falls shorts of what the Guardians do on the regular when they could be bothered,.....
Marvel almost always falls short when compared to DC because DC works in Absolutes - The main reason that Superman Beats out Thor, Flash Beats Out Quicksilver, Wonderwoman beats out Rogue, / Storm, / Ms. Marvel,/ She-Hulk, etc,...
They are Iconic - you just don't have powerful equiv's in Marvel,.. And the ones you do fill niches with real narrow parameters,... Phoenix comes to mind.

The Surfer is extremely powerful on a personal level,.. but falls short when dealing with someone who can keep up with him,.. mimic most of his effects, and out power him on the short-run.
(I give him his Props,.. I understand that the Surfer limits himself as to how much cosmic energy he uses at one time,.. there seems to be a reduction of intelligence in direct proportion to how much he pumps into himself for use. So in a long fight, surfer would keep ramping up until he could beat THAT Lantern.)


Sigh,.. We are gonna go back and forth on this ain't we?

Galactus is more or less like the Guardians in the whole "doesn't do anything that he doesn't have to do." Such as feed on planets. The guy's lazy as crap. He can feed on the planets WITHOUT machines. But he uses them anyway. He could probably find the planets himself. But he doesn't. That's what subjects are for.

Someone who's only four fears are the Infinite Gauntlet, Heart of the Universe, Ultimate Nullifier, and running out of a food source, probably is just a little bit more powerful. Since two of those terms would also scare the crap (if it could be scared) out of the Living Tribunal, who's an absolute in the MU.

*Sigh* Until you provide better proof.

[Varient]

sO,.....
This "unspecified rare energy" collects only on life bearing planets,.. that only the heralds can detect and identify as something Galactus can use?



Hmmmn.

I'm not gonna trade insults with someone who believes that Galactus is lazy enough to have sumbody go find his food,... and "limit it" (the laziness) to one guy at a time where if he had "real power" he'd have more than one person running around looking.
You need to say I don't know enough about Galactus to argue the point,.. Please yourself.

Life is too short when a person (You) can ignore Canon on the many times Galactus has been caught between a rock and a hard place by folk/beings way weaker than the Guardians of OA.

Need to be a Galactus Fan,.. More power to you.

Peace.

[Quantum_Goddess]

sO,.....
This "unspecified rare energy" collects only on life bearing planets,.. that only the heralds can detect and identify as something Galactus can use?



Hmmmn.

I'm not gonna trade insults with someone who believes that Galactus is lazy enough to have sumbody go find his food,... and "limit it" (the laziness) to one guy at a time where if he had "real power" he'd have more than one person running around looking.
You need to say I don't know enough about Galactus to argue the point,.. Please yourself.

Life is too short when a person (You) can ignore Canon on the many times Galactus has been caught between a rock and a hard place by folk/beings way weaker than the Guardians of OA.

Need to be a Galactus Fan,.. More power to you.

Peace.


Is that lack of proof?

Seeing how the energy doesn't exist solely on life bearing planets, no. It's that life bearing planets have a much higher chance of a greater concentration of this energy.

Seeing how Galactus is kind of on he lazy side, preferring NOT to do things he doesn't have to. (Eat, find food, fight his own battles) As for the one herald thing. You totally ignored the 1970's to today, where he's had several heralds. Even at once. (Terrax, Nova, Plasma, two Airwalkers, though Stardust is apparently working alone nowadays). And he usually doesn't need more than one, since it's on average he needs to feed once a month. Having more than one would probably be a waste of time for him. I mean, why send out an entire squadron of heralds, when he only needs one to find a single planet consisted of this energy? Like I said before, the MU's universe is full of life. Galactus basically rubs elbows with the energy it seems. (Though sometimes, it doesn't make sense why he's so underfed. Maybe the energy is more scarce than I gave it credit for. I mean, he could just attack a few Skrull planets or something. It's not like any major military has stopped him before. Or deterred him for that matter. [see StormBreaker: Saga of Beta Ray Bill])

Man I love it when elitists have to exit. (Dislikes people like herself.)

As for me, I'm also done with it.

The only Canon lost seems to be on you.

[Silicon Surfer]

For many years the guardians were portrayed as powerless and helpless. They were taken captive or threatened routinely requiring Hal to come and protect them. They were written as completely unable to fight or protect themselves and in fact were not even shown to have any personal power other than immortality and intellect. They have been powered up only in the last 20 years or so. IN the Rom storyline Galactus teleports the entire Golden Galaxy to another distant part of the universe, a feat far beyond anything the Guardiand or the Corp eever attempted. When Terrax hid from Galactus inside a black hole Galactus told Dazzler that his mere presense inside the black hole would destroy it and Terrax.

[Anubis]

I wouldn't call the Guardians weak, just lazy.

[yenaled]

The Guardians have a very specific non-involvement policy coming from in the past when they did involve themselves they royally ****ed it all up - tearing to the empire of tears.

though i'm pretty sure this is ignored in every continuity ever.

[Varient]

The Guardians have a very specific non-involvement policy coming from in the past when they did involve themselves they royally ****ed it all up - tearing to the empire of tears.

though i'm pretty sure this is ignored in every continuity ever.

It was stated many times in Lantern Canon,... That they try not to get into it becuase they do too much damage,.. so they left it to their manhunters,.. followed by the Lanterns.

They try to guide and direct,.... but they stay out of the mix.

It's obvious by what has been written here that alot of folk don't know green lantern history.

[JewishHobbit]

Questions:

I don't read any DC really, but I have the Green Lantern Rebirth hardback and have been thinking about checking out the ongoing, and the Corps story. I'm wondering if the Corps story is a mini, and if either are out in trades yet. Thanks :)

[vog]

the green lantern corps series currently going on is a six-issue miniseries. there will be a monthly ongoing at some point after the miniseries wraps up (i can't quite remember exactly when, but sometime soon). there haven't been any trades released as of yet for either of the series.

[Guy Gardner]

the green lantern corps series currently going on is a six-issue miniseries. there will be a monthly ongoing at some point after the miniseries wraps up (i can't quite remember exactly when, but sometime soon). there haven't been any trades released as of yet for either of the series.
the GLC ReCharge mini is actually only 5 issues, and the ongoing ought to begin about a month after the OYL jump and giving us a Guy Gardner mini during the summer.

[Varient]

For many years the guardians were portrayed as powerless and helpless. They were taken captive or threatened routinely requiring Hal to come and protect them. They were written as completely unable to fight or protect themselves and in fact were not even shown to have any personal power other than immortality and intellect. They have been powered up only in the last 20 years or so. IN the Rom storyline Galactus teleports the entire Golden Galaxy to another distant part of the universe, a feat far beyond anything the Guardiand or the Corp eever attempted. When Terrax hid from Galactus inside a black hole Galactus told Dazzler that his mere presense inside the black hole would destroy it and Terrax.
I remember an issue where Hal Jordan came "to the rescue" of the guardians and afterward while walking the halls on Oa with a guardian Hal was given an attaboy and patted virtually on the head like he were a good dog for coming to take care of business. when asked by Hal as to why the guardians didn't free themselves when it was obvious that they could have,.. the guardian said to the effect that they didn't "do" that sort of thing anymore.

[The Batman]

I cant wait for Reis on GL...I saw a pic of his hal in the new wizard, and its awesome

[The Watchman]

Yeah, Reis is amazing, I feel like he'd be even more high profile if he hadn't been paired with Chuck Austen because that was some of the most solid and definitive Superman work I've seen in quite some time.

[TheCorpulent1]

I don't think being paired with Austen hurt him that much. Everyone got to know how good he is on Rann/Thanagar War.
I remember an issue where Hal Jordan came "to the rescue" of the guardians and afterward while walking the halls on Oa with a guardian Hal was given an attaboy and patted virtually on the head like he were a good dog for coming to take care of business. when asked by Hal as to why the guardians didn't free themselves when it was obvious that they could have,.. the guardian said to the effect that they didn't "do" that sort of thing anymore.
I guess that answers the question of why they're just floating their little blue asses around doing nothing in GLC Recharge right now, too. I find it hard to believe that the Spider Guild could really win in a frontal assault on Oa if the Guardians were actually involving themselves.

[Anubis]

You think they would have learned there lesson after what went down with Paralax and Hal and started getting their little blue hands dirty. I mean, Ganthet got his ass in gear a few times after the Corps fell. You'd think that with this second chance they would at least take care of the BIG threats on there own when neccesary.

[Varient]

I don't think being paired with Austen hurt him that much. Everyone got to know how good he is on Rann/Thanagar War.

I guess that answers the question of why they're just floating their little blue asses around doing nothing in GLC Recharge right now, too. I find it hard to believe that the Spider Guild could really win in a frontal assault on Oa if the Guardians were actually involving themselves.

It's a fine line that DC keeps coming back to that validates the Green Lantern Corps.

I'da thought that at least ONE Guardian would've learned from all that mess that came before that there is nothing wrong WITH DEFENDING YOURSELF.

big Sigh.:confused:

[TheCorpulent1]

I don't think the Guardians' defending their planet would really invalidate the GL Corps. I can buy that they see a need to police the universe but don't want to do it themselves. It's no different from the Senate or Parliament or any other governing body. The Guardians concern themselves with loftier things--deliberating on the laws in the Book of Oa, watching for greater threats like the Anti-Monitor, and keeping Parallax contained, that sort of thing--and leave the Corpsmen to do the grunt work around the universe. You'd think they could take time out of their lofty aims to keep themselves and their Corps from getting killed, though.

[GOODT!MES]

The OA Guardians are Smurfs. Smurfs aren't fighters, Smurfs are lovers.

[Anubis]

Smurfette is a dirty ****.

[TheCorpulent1]

Yeah, she's worse than Jade.

[The Leaguer]

Watch your mouth, no one is worse than Jade.

[Varient]

:up: You think they would have learned there lesson after what went down with Paralax and Hal and started getting their little blue hands dirty. I mean, Ganthet got his ass in gear a few times after the Corps fell. You'd think that with this second chance they would at least take care of the BIG threats on there own when neccesary.:up:
What I said.

[lceman]

Just read Rann/Thangar War Special and I cannot wait to hear how everyone feels about the way Kyle becomes ION.

[Silicon Surfer]

I don't think the Guardians' defending their planet would really invalidate the GL Corps. I can buy that they see a need to police the universe but don't want to do it themselves. It's no different from the Senate or Parliament or any other governing body. The Guardians concern themselves with loftier things--deliberating on the laws in the Book of Oa, watching for greater threats like the Anti-Monitor, and keeping Parallax contained, that sort of thing--and leave the Corpsmen to do the grunt work around the universe. You'd think they could take time out of their lofty aims to keep themselves and their Corps from getting killed, though. You'd think that wouldn't you. Even the Watchers who have an extreme non-interference policy know how to say "get out of my house" rather eloquently.

[TheCorpulent1]

Just read Rann/Thangar War Special and I cannot wait to hear how everyone feels about the way Kyle becomes ION.
I was kind of confused at first, until I remembered that Kyle had given her power as Ion in the first place. I still don't understand why his face disappeared and his costume randomly changed into a very incomplete-looking one, though. I'm looking forward to how they develop it further.

[kiuju2k]

Your telling me he gets his power from jade?Weak.

[kiuju2k]

All things being Equal,.. A green Lantern should Own the surfer,.. since they deal with willpower and imagination to manipulate a powersource that even spread among 7200 beings is great enough to maintain the atmosphere around the planet Earth,... Contain a star Going Nova, Move Planets around,... things the Surfer has never done.

Of course being a fan-fav,.. the Surfer is ALWAYS written as powerfull enough to take a lantern.

He or any Herald would get Owned by the GL corps,.. and Galactus would have worse than a bad hair day trying to come eat OA,.. It would only take one Guardian to driive him off.

Well actually surfer already kicked kyle's ass albeit he was more of a rookie then. Still surfer owned kyle twice. The first time was no contest all that juice gl's have just isn't enough. I think surfer can smash all 4 lanterns. If he beat kyle so easily.

[lceman]

I was kind of confused at first, until I remembered that Kyle had given her power as Ion in the first place. I still don't understand why his face disappeared and his costume randomly changed into a very incomplete-looking one, though. I'm looking forward to how they develop it further.

Isn't the Green Lantern costume a projection from the ring wearer's mind. That's how Kyle changed his costume the first time. Maybe with the power that he go back from Jade he projected a more cosmic image of himself. Don't know but it seems from the solicited cover of the first Ion issue he will not have the "space face" and just have a full facemask that is green.

[lceman]

double post, sry

[TheCorpulent1]

Isn't the Green Lantern costume a projection from the ring wearer's mind. That's how Kyle changed his costume the first time. Maybe with the power that he go back from Jade he projected a more cosmic image of himself. Don't know but it seems from the solicited cover of the first Ion issue he will not have the "space face" and just have a full facemask that is green.
That could be it, but I remember Marz saying something like, "Who says it's a mask?" when he was asked in a Newsarama interview about the mask on the Ion cover. That makes me think that maybe Kyle, for whatever reason, just lost his face somehow. The Guardians do mention that Kyle is the "first of a new breed." Maybe having a sparkly star face is part of his evolution.

[LadyVader]

Oh great... we've gone from sparkly star hair to sparkly faces. What's next? A sparkly duodenum? :)

[kiuju2k]

hahahahahahahahahaha.... i've just recently seen it. I wonder what his limitation s are as compared to as before. Is he still connected to everything? Can't wait to see. It looks like it will be a 12 book mini. I wonder if they will keep it going if it does well. Wait nevermind they will keep it if it goes well.

[The Leaguer]

When did they say it would be 12 issues?

[TheCorpulent1]

When did they say it would be 12 issues?
http://www.dccomics.com/comics/?cm=5099

You gonna cry? :p

[regwec]

The Spider Guild and their ships are among the coolest things I have ever seen in a comic. I really hope they become a staple of the DCU.

[The Leaguer]

http://www.dccomics.com/comics/?cm=5099

You gonna cry? :p
:mad:

[yenaled]

Green Lantern #12 cover. Look who's back...

http://www.newsarama.com/general/GeoffJohns/GL_Cv12_LayersMerged.jpg

[Anubis]

Oh snap!

[The Leaguer]

That is cool as Hell.

[regwec]

Would five rings on one hand really be better than one?

[Guy Gardner]

Would five rings on one hand really be better than one?
it is if you've just slaughtered five GL's like it appears the Cyborg has

[LanternFan]

OH, I think I know a cyborg who's about to get his ass handed to him.


Hal is gonna **** him up.

[jaydawg]

How did you reach that thought provoking conclusion?

[kiuju2k]

Simply because the cyborg was partly responsible for the destruction of coast city. Hal already knowing this has a super grudge against the guy and won't let it happen again. So hes gonna kick his ass. I myself am not too excited about it. Just another old character from the past who outlived any kind of usefulness.

[citizenpain]

i hope you all appreciate a cheap plug as much as me... cuz i LOVE 'em!! lemme get to the point tho... i have GREEN LANTERN: REBIRTH for sale over on eBay.. the black and white variant covers of issues #1 and #2. lots of other comics for sale as well. please just take a look at my auctions and who knows, maybe you'll find something of liking. check it out!

[TheCorpulent1]

Would five rings on one hand really be better than one?
Not at all. The rings can do pretty much anything within your willpower as it is, so having five of them wouldn't change anything; they'd still only operate as potently as your willpower made them. Plus, everyone knows wearing five rings on one hand is just plain tacky. :o

[The Leaguer]

Tell that to Mandarin.

[TheCorpulent1]

I did. Then he killed himself and left his rings to his equally tacky son.

[Anubis]

Hey, Tenmuwhatshisface is pretty bad ass. Guy kicked IM's can with his bare hands.

[TheCorpulent1]

Iron Man was probably drunk at the time. You know Iron Man. :o

[Anubis]

I doubt it. With the way he was kicking his ass, even if he was wasted he would have sobered up real quick.

[The Leaguer]

Does having ten rings on your fingers really count as "bare handed?"

[TheCorpulent1]

Does having ten rings on your fingers really count as "bare handed?"
He has a point.

[Anubis]

I does when one dude has a photon Cannon and Repulsor rays, and all you got is some rings that shoot magic that you don't even use to kick the unholy hell out of him. [whew ]

[TheCorpulent1]

Yeah, but his hands still weren't "bare." "Ringed hands" would've been more appropriate.

[Anubis]

........:mad:

[regwec]

How did you reach that thought provoking conclusion?
He took a couple of shots of fanboyism, filtered out the imagination, added a dash of ignorance and shook it all up.

[LanternFan]

He took a couple of shots of fanboyism, filtered out the imagination, added a dash of ignorance and shook it all up.

Thanks reg. You're one in a million.

[drastic_quench]

I picked up the Batman variant cover today for 10 bucks. The story is not what I expected at all - and I liked it. They're even.

[Guy Gardner]

I picked up the Batman variant cover today for 10 bucks. The story is not what I expected at all - and I liked it. They're even.
Ethan is by far the best artist to ever work on a GL book since Gil Kane waaaaay back in the day, it's too bad that this was his last issue, but he went out on a high note.

[King_Mungi]

Recent issue of Green Lantern was great with Batman. Heck, Batman even stopped being a dick.

[Varient]

Recent issue of Green Lantern was great with Batman. Heck, Batman even stopped being a dick.
Yeah,.... rite.

[King_Mungi]

Yeah,.... rite.

Seriously, he was really nice to Hal...even said he was glad he was back.

[Doc Destruction]

Yep, that was cool. Great issue!

[The Batman]

GL 9 was awesome. Batdick is slowly going away and i for one can not be more happy about it...

[hippie_hunter]

Recent issue of Green Lantern was great with Batman. Heck, Batman even stopped being a dick.

Impossible, Geoff Johns's Batman is the most douchebaggy of all Batmans

[TheCorpulent1]

GL 9 was awesome. Batdick is slowly going away and i for one can not be more happy about it...
I really didn't like it. That was the single easiest, least dramatic, least interesting resolution I could possibly think of to the Batman/Hal relationship.

[The Batman]

better than bats being a whiny B*tch towards him for most of OYL

[TheCorpulent1]

Not really. That'd be a far more convincing response to having to deal with Hal's return to a position where hundreds of lives depend on him any given day, given his history and Bruce's suspicious nature. Maybe after OYL when Bruce is supposed to be a kinder, gentler Batman, I could've bought this. But now it seems like the pendulum has swung way too far in the opposite direction way, way too soon.

[Tamanon]

I dunno....judging by the breakdown that Bruce had in IC and the subsequent conversation with Dick.....I think he's actually already changing to realize what his suspicious, cold-hearted nature has prevented him from finding.

[XFanTim]

Not at all. The rings can do pretty much anything within your willpower as it is, so having five of them wouldn't change anything; they'd still only operate as potently as your willpower made them. Plus, everyone knows wearing five rings on one hand is just plain tacky. :o
Well, don't most of the rings still have a limited charge? (I haven't really been following GL lately . . . ) So maybe with five you'd be able to go five times as long without rechargeging.

[Antitang]

Who is considered the best Green Lantern writter? and what books did he/she write?

[Tamanon]

Well, don't most of the rings still have a limited charge? (I haven't really been following GL lately . . . ) So maybe with five you'd be able to go five times as long without rechargeging.

They still have a limited charge. I think the concept is that the ringcan create anything that the mind wants, more willpower just means that it doesn't drain the user or the charge as much. I mean, Green Arrow was freakin' exhausted after using the ring in Rebirth.

[Pksoze]

I think Batman shouldn't be a dick, but I kind of liked Bats & Hal disliking each other.

[Antitang]

I think Batman shouldn't be a dick, but I kind of liked Bats & Hal disliking each other.

Yeah me too it kind of makes sense, Batman who uses fear to his advantage and Hal Jorden the man without fear. It is a good rivalry.

[TheCorpulent1]

Well, don't most of the rings still have a limited charge? (I haven't really been following GL lately . . . ) So maybe with five you'd be able to go five times as long without rechargeging.
It'd be beneficial in that respect if you used one ring at a time. As each ring's charge wore down, you could switch to another. But channeling one's will through five rings simultaneously wouldn't make constructs anymore powerful than the ones created by channeling one's will through one ring.
Who is considered the best Green Lantern writter? and what books did he/she write?
Dennis O'Neil is probably considered the best Green Lantern writer. He wrote the Green Lantern/Green Arrow "Hard-Travelin' Heroes" stuff. It's widely considered some of the best portrayals of both Ollie Queen and Hal Jordan, and the run itself is considered one of the best stories in comics in general.

[Pksoze]

Yeah me too it kind of makes sense, Batman who uses fear to his advantage and Hal Jorden the man without fear. It is a good rivalry.


Yeah I wish it ended with Bats stating he still didn't like Hal but he respects him.

[Guy Gardner]

Who is considered the best Green Lantern writter? and what books did he/she write?
Check out all of Gerard Jones' work from the early stages of vol 3 up to Emerald Twilight, and of course all the early Hal stuff collected in the Silver Age volumes by John Broome

[TheCorpulent1]

Marz and Winick's runs are good for Kyle. Morrison, Waid, and Kelly all did great work with him in JLA, too.

[The Watchman]

I'd be careful with the early Hal stuff, some of it is REALLY dry. Check out New Frontier, not entirely a Hal story but he's certainly featured heavily and you won't find a better read anywhere :up:

[Guy Gardner]

I'd be careful with the early Hal stuff, some of it is REALLY dry. Check out New Frontier, not entirely a Hal story but he's certainly featured heavily and you won't find a better read anywhere :up:
That is true, Broome's style isn't for everyone, especially people who are really into the current story-telling style. When you read his work you can tell that it's early silver-age and that there's an inherent fascination with deep-space and cornballishness...although it's still a fun read in its own way :up:

[TheCorpulent1]

I'd be careful with the early Hal stuff, some of it is REALLY dry. Check out New Frontier, not entirely a Hal story but he's certainly featured heavily and you won't find a better read anywhere :up:
New Frontier was good. It's too bad it's out of continuity--although Hal's origin is retold in pretty much the same way as the in-continuity origin goes, as far as I remember.

[Green Lantern]

Who is considered the best Green Lantern writter? and what books did he/she write?Depends on which GL you want to read...

Kyle's (my personal favorite) best run was definitely Judd Winick's, but most of the Ron Marz run was great too.

Hal's best was the Green Lantern/Green Arrow stuff by Denny O'Neil. I suggest looking into both of these recomendations :)

[TheCorpulent1]

I liked Marz's GL stories more than Winick's, myself. Especially the ones where Kyle was still trying to figure out how to be a hero.

[That-Guy]

That issue of GL was great. My only complaint was that it felt a little rushed... but I really liked the Bats/Hal resolve. I guess it's because back before the whole Parallax saga, I don't recall Batman and Hal ever disliking each other, but since then, everyone's been acting like even in the early days they despised each other's methods. I guess it does makes some sense that they would (Batman is ultra-cautious, Hal can be ultra-reckless, Batman uses and manipulates fear, Hal has no fear whatsoever, etc.) but I guess I can't help but have a soft spot for the Super Friends when heroes would, as Bill and Ted would say, "be excellent to each other."

On a side note... HOW BADASS IS THE TATOOED MAN?!!! I really hope we see more of this sick f**k. He was friggin' awesome. Damn, I wish this would have been a double-sized issue. Oh well.

[Harlekin]

So how was it resolved? I dropped this book after #4. Did Bats get a GL ring in the end?

[TheCorpulent1]

It was resolved really, really badly.

[Harlekin]

It was resolved really, really badly.
Then spoil it already.

[TheCorpulent1]

Hal gives Batman his ring and tells him to focus on the moment he became Batman, which is, of course, the moment his parents died. Batman struggles and works at focusing his will and then, finally, green images of his parents appear. Hal tells him to put the past behind him. Batman gets all sad and reaches a hand out to touch his parents, then they vanish and he says something like, "No. I don't want to." Then he takes the ring off, hands it back to Hal, and says he's glad Hal is back. In one fell swoop, Batman forgives Hal for murdering the entire universe and everything is hunky-dory! Huzzah! :o

[Harlekin]

What led up to that moment though? Because that really is friggin' lame.

[Lackey]

So how was it resolved? I dropped this book after #4. Did Bats get a GL ring in the end?


It's obvious Batman has a different outlook on things since the whole OMAC mess. That's why he was so quick to forgive Hal... after sucker-punching him back, of course. And it's like they were best buddies at the end of the issue either.

How can Batman hold Parallax against Hal after his part in the current crisis.

[Harlekin]

Oh, I don't so much mind Bats forgiving Hal, especially with all of the crap Bats has pulled over the years (especially the OMAC business), I'm probably just visualizing the scene very akwardly.

[TheCorpulent1]

It's obvious Batman has a different outlook on things since the whole OMAC mess. That's why he was so quick to forgive Hal... after sucker-punching him back, of course. And it's like they were best buddies at the end of the issue either.
I still don't think it was convincing at all. Regardless of what happened with the OMACs, I don't think someone shakes years and years of paranoia and forgives a man for murder that easily. Not only did he forgive him, he said he was glad that Hal was back. That part more than anything else seemed way out of character for Batman. That'd be way out of character for almost anyone, really. Forgiveness takes a lot more time than that.

[Lackey]

Oh, I don't so much mind Bats forgiving Hal, especially with all of the crap Bats has pulled over the years (especially the OMAC business), I'm probably just visualizing the scene very akwardly.


well, earlier in the issue, pretty much as soon as Hal shows up in the Batcave, Batman sucker punches him the first chance he gets and says "Now we're even" :)

[Lackey]

I still don't think it was convincing at all. Regardless of what happened with the OMACs, I don't think someone shakes years and years of paranoia and forgives a man for murder that easily. Not only did he forgive him, he said he was glad that Hal was back. That part more than anything else seemed way out of character for Batman. That'd be way out of character for almost anyone, really. Forgiveness takes a lot more time than that.


it's not like Hal just came back yesterday

[Harlekin]

well, earlier in the issue, pretty much as soon as Hal shows up in the Batcave, Batman sucker punches him the first chance he gets and says "Now we're even" :)
I don't blame him. :D

[TheCorpulent1]

it's not like Hal just came back yesterday
So? What's he really done to make up for what Batman still perceived at the end of Rebirth as nearly irredeemable sins?

[Assassin]

This is the first issue i really enjoyed. ****en greedy ppl charging 15.99 for the varient cover, and my comic shop guy didnt save me one, he had them at reg price, SOB i'm his best customer.

[TheCorpulent1]

I really hope you didn't buy it for $15.99. It'll probably be cheaper to order it from somewhere online.

[Assassin]

i didnt, like i said my real shop had them at reg price minus the 20%

he only got 4 and gave them to other ppl since he gave them the other varients.

Then i ask him to save me the Turner covers of Civil war, he say's they'll be $9.99

WTF? all of a suddon this guy is treating me like ****, my other shop gives me 25% off but i only buy trades from him, i dont buy and comics because the 1st guy used to be cool with me and get me what ever i wanted. The guy i get trades from i sthe guy who had them for 15.99

[TheCorpulent1]

**** that, you should switch to the 25% discount shop completely.

[Assassin]

he over prices almost every thing else, DCD are 15.99

Varients go from 9.99 to 24.99 to 50.00(ult hulk vs wolv sketch)

My shop had dcd figs for $12
Varients are reg price, most of the time. If he acts like an ******* again to me i'm gonna et him know, he know si get trades from there because it takes him a ****en year to get my stuff in, the other shop gets them the following wednesday.