View Full Version : I Miss X-men Evolution!!!!!
Kmack
09-20-2004, 05:41 PM
I'm so pissed this cartoon does not come on anymore!! It was so awesome. I bet Moonstar would have joined the team in the next Season!! I am so pissed!!
There are waaaay too many stupid cartoons out nowadays (Teen Titans is awful and so is the new Batman cartoon). I need some X-MEN!!!!!!!!!! :p
There need to be some new X-men cartoon this is torture!!!!
Phew, glad to get that out of my system. :) :xmen:
Magneto29
09-20-2004, 09:24 PM
Yeah, now I've seen commercials for some stupid Robot Monkeys ? How stupid.
Atleast the original 90's version of X-Men is still on.
Super Saiyan
09-20-2004, 09:37 PM
Stupid Cartoon Network never gave us the new episodes.
Kmack
09-20-2004, 10:17 PM
I know!!! How stupid of them!!!
Kmack
09-20-2004, 10:19 PM
Atleast the original 90's version of X-Men is still on.
Yes, I'm happy for that...but I still wish Evolution. The rest of the episodes should come out on DVD! They rocked!! :cool:
phoephoe
09-20-2004, 10:44 PM
LOL I was just watching my VCD copies i downloaded because I miss the show. It was a good show to watch before bed.
ock220
09-20-2004, 10:44 PM
Yes, I'm happy for that...but I still wish Evolution. The rest of the episodes should come out on DVD! They rocked!! :cool:
Just what I was thinking I loved X-Men Evolution and I hope they all come out on dvd like the Apocolypse saga that one was the best IMO. :xmen: :wolverine :cyclops: X-Men rules
Magneto29
09-21-2004, 05:57 AM
I know I have a few episodes on VHS, but I can't remember which ones. I know I had Target X and the Last episode, but I think I may have taped over Target X at one point.
phoephoe
09-21-2004, 08:07 AM
Is the original X-Men airing here in the states still? If they do what channel is it. I wonder if I get it here.
Kmack
09-21-2004, 08:42 AM
Yes they still air. On Fox Family, they air on Saturday.
Magneto29
09-21-2004, 03:01 PM
For me it's channel 20, or I sometimes called it the Seventh Heaven channel, cause it's on like non-stop. It gets really annoying.
Valechan
09-22-2004, 03:11 AM
X-Men Evolution rocks!! Why were tehy cancelled?
Kmack
09-22-2004, 06:56 AM
Because they are idiots!! lol.
Jan Irisi
09-22-2004, 08:59 AM
Well, we all know that Kid's WB had to make room on their schedule for the sublime Mucha Lucha, the incredible Pokemon what-ever-the-name-is-now, and of course, everyone's favorite....Xiaolin Showdown.
I had a small hope that Cartoon Network would pick up the ball and possibly push for new episodes, but I guess everyone involved felt it better just to cancel it altogether.
phoephoe
09-22-2004, 12:45 PM
Yes they still air. On Fox Family, they air on Saturday.
Cool, I'll be looking for it this weekend. LOL Its on after an hour of Spiderman so I guess I'll be excited to watch Saturday morning cartoons again.
Slim_X
09-22-2004, 08:39 PM
cartoon network still airs it at 4:30 pm in mexico. god i hate wb! :mad:
Sauron
09-23-2004, 04:32 PM
I hate the WB aswell. I miss Evolution. I need about 3 more dvd's and I'll have all of them 'till they come out with more that is. They'll probably release about 4 more and that should be all of the episodes . At least I hope they come out with more. :xmen:
Magneto29
09-23-2004, 04:55 PM
I would think they would come out with them all. They'd be stupid not to.
Slim_X
09-23-2004, 04:57 PM
maybe by the time X3 is released they'll air a new cartoon but i loved the evolution concept and everything was drawn so great.
Gambit8370
09-23-2004, 05:18 PM
X-Men Evolution was cancelled for a damn good reason.
Having 7 or 8 continuities within the X-Men franchise was getting to be too ****ing much.
Here's the deal...
Marvel floods the market.
They keep what sells the most.
They ****-can the rest.
Now you can go ahead and knock what you'll claim are "just my opinions" and call me names if it makes you feel better, but if you are a young Marvel fan, it's my duty as a "old" Marvel fan to warn you...
Marvel nowadays is all about re-packaging old ideas for younger audiences.
None of the new ideas can even begin to compare to the original concepts.
None of the new ideas or re-imagined versions of the original characters ever last. Ever.
If you've got a Jones for the re-imagined versions, get ready for a world of disappointments.
My best advice to you is to go check out what's going on in the comics in the regular Marvel universe. Definately try to pick up some reprints and TPBs of the classic stuff. There are also a lot of great stories reasonably prices in the back issue bins.
In regards to cartoons, Marvel doesn't have their game on at all in regards to cartoons.
In the 90's they were close, but the toy market was too involved as the driving factor behind those. Definately true of Evolution as well.
Marvel has promised better cartoons in the future. We'll see. If they make them with the primary intent of selling toys, it may be popular with the kids for a short time, but it will be transparent to the discriminate fan and ultimately fail.
Here's hoping that they'll finally get it right.
Neptune
10-09-2004, 12:17 PM
dude....... Marvel sucks :(
Kmack
10-09-2004, 01:54 PM
Marvel ROX!:up::up:
But they suck for cancelling X-men Evolution:o
Punisher RULES
10-10-2004, 12:51 PM
X-Men Evolution was a great series for all us X-Fans,now we can only imagine what would happen in X-Men Evo.
Quidam
10-11-2004, 01:32 PM
I just bought every ep on EBAY. Cost me an arm and a leg though. :p
Dread
10-11-2004, 10:18 PM
Love Evolution or hate it, it was Marvel's longest running and best animated cartoon series since the 90's (which had two classic X-Men and Spider-Man runs).
I liked X-Men Evolution. It was a revision of the universe through new eyes and continuity, yet had an imagination all it's own, and stayed true to the cores of many of the characters. Sure, there were redesigns and revampings, most notably of Rogue, who was the standout star of the series. Evolution's version of her, while admittedly overexposed and overused towards the end, was the best version of the character in my opinion, one that Vaughn is running with for his Ultimate run.
The series had it's flaws, it's downs to coinside with it's ups (about half of the episodes of Season Two was mediocre at best and crippled by an influx of mutants filling screen time). But it also had it's strengths, and many notable outings.
The 90's series was a classic, but towards the end the storylines become bigger than the characters, and I remembered those vividly. But in Evolution, I recall the character dynamics better than the rumbles of the week.
The series ended on a high note, and it's a shame they didn't have another season. Who knows what could have been accomplished.
The comic book series based on the cartoon, written by Devin Grayson and drawn by UDON, wasn't bad either (until issue #9, their last).
And considering that they're selling this series (slowly) on DVD, it's a shame and a mistake that Cartoon Network never got the last 12 episodes of the series; one would think having it on the line-up would help their DVD sales to those who didn't get to catch it early mornings on the WB, plus new fans who only saw it on CN. Plus, the last few episodes have never been reaired.
Where there better cartoons? Sure. But X-Men Evolution was a good show if one let go of the past and sat back. I certainly enjoyed it, and I'm a viewer known for being hard on cartoons. It has been missed, and if the hundreds of fan-sites and Evo-based RPG's and fan-fics are any indicator, I am not alone.
"No matter what await us, terrible or wonderous, my X-Men will always be there. And of that, I am proud."
At least it ended on a high, somber, almost optimistic note. Rare for the X-Men.
SolidNinja
10-12-2004, 04:16 PM
Dude Evolution had a crappy ending and they draged it on by showing little blocks at a time, I stoped watching it but started up again after they got a deeper story plot.
Sauron
10-12-2004, 05:26 PM
Evolution Rocked!
RogueyStars2004
10-13-2004, 06:20 PM
evolution kicked ass,
so did the 90's one,i miss the 90's more than anything,all the episodes of friends on t.v
the spiderman animated series,the batman animated series.
i guess it depends on what generation your from to like a t.v show.
Hey Spider,
:xmen: The 90's cartoon comes on every Saturday morning at 11:30 on ABC Family channel. I always make sure that I watch it and my kids who are 3 and 2 love it as well. My son who is three can name all the main characters of the X-Men. I think it is fantastic. LOL! Go X-Men! They ROCK! They also loved watching the Evolution cartoon.:xmen:
~RogueyStars2004~
Robin91939
10-15-2004, 10:39 PM
listen to this, i saw EVERY EP.....but the last one, and havnt seen it yet, does anyone know the name of the ep, or have the file they can send me so i can see it, please, thanks
-R
Dread
10-16-2004, 12:44 AM
The last episode would be "Ascension- Part Two".
baby_webhead
10-16-2004, 01:02 AM
I haven't even seen season 4! It never got aired where I live.
usagicassidy
10-22-2004, 06:46 PM
Yeah! It was obviously aired where I live but I miss every single episode! They need to skip the first two seasons and just release DVDS of the last two!!
david howder
10-27-2004, 02:42 PM
Not to make any XME fans mad but that show sucked.
usagicassidy
10-27-2004, 11:17 PM
How so? You can't just come into a forum where everyone's been talking about how much they loved it and simply say it "sucks" without providing any logical argument. So, we will get "mad" and call you an idiot and a "newbie". Personally, I would love to see what it is about the show that you don't like.
Liquid Ice
10-28-2004, 03:02 AM
The show was tight it was just getting better, and then they killed it. Liquid sad. Tear. Holla.
Langoth
10-28-2004, 05:08 AM
I loved X-men Evolution very much, seasons 1-3 really captivated me.
I feel the entirety of season 4 was a waste.
The gross underpowering of foes like Apocolypse and Omega Red (X23 beats Omega Red with a *kick* and Logan beats him with a trip! Rogue defeats a 7'4 600 pound Apocolypse, powers or not... just... *sigh*) really ticked me off. And how Rogue effortlessly saved the day where everyone else could not. I felt season 4 wasted whole episodes (the second X-23 episode was aweful) and I feel that they could have saved us time, by not doing foolish things like introduce Legion in one episode as a villain, a potentally major one, and then never seeing him again.
I did love the show though, aside from season 4.
I am infact on an RPG for it, still.
It was a great show, and really deserved 2-3 more seasons on the air. But to say the least, season 4 did not impress me, and did waste a lot of time that they could have spent on better things.
david howder
10-28-2004, 10:00 AM
How so? You can't just come into a forum where everyone's been talking about how much they loved it and simply say it "sucks" without providing any logical argument. So, we will get "mad" and call you an idiot and a "newbie". Personally, I would love to see what it is about the show that you don't like.
I'll tell you why it sucks. First of all Wolverine looked like a wimp, nightcrawler was just retarded, when one of the X-kids would have a problems' they always said something like " look's like someone has a math test or school final's getting to you Huh? Something dumb like that. Prof. X was as good of a teacher as Bush is Pres. The fights were lame, the story lines were thin and WHy the Hell didi they change Toad's name? That is why I think XME sucks, And yes I am a "Newbie" and I'm going to make everyone on this site Know my name. Thank You.
Goldenage Batman
10-28-2004, 02:11 PM
^ (david howder) One word. "JERK":mad: That show was great.
Liquid Ice
10-28-2004, 02:36 PM
The show was nice. It started slow, but it did get better. Newbie howder it wasnt that bad, and SS2 it wasnt that great. It was in between. Holla.
david howder
10-28-2004, 03:05 PM
You both suck. Holla at that while ss2 goes !#&*off. Bicthes.I'm out.
Liquid Ice
10-28-2004, 03:09 PM
Newbie please remove the voltron lion from your a@#. Thank you.
Newbie Howder-"Im the dungeon master"
Goldenage Batman
10-28-2004, 03:14 PM
Ha Ha Take that and smoke it howder. jerk
C. Lee
10-28-2004, 04:40 PM
Ha Ha Take that and smoke it howder. jerk
Just so that everyone knows...."super saiyan 2" and "david howder" are the same person...he is arguing with himself in a couple of threads....he now has 7 days off to think upon why that was not a good thing to do.
Gambit8370
10-28-2004, 04:50 PM
Hey C. Lee,
Am I the same person as anyone else?
You know, I've argued with A LOT of people in my time, but I just can't seem to remember if I've ever gotten into a heated debate with MYSELF before...:rolleyes:
Cyclops
10-28-2004, 04:54 PM
I know I have. Like this one time, I stood in front of the refrigerator, getting into a passioned argument with myself over whether or not I should eat the last slice of cake. I wasn't hungry, but it was the last slice of cake, you know?
But yeah, usually when a moderator says that two people are the same person, they've checked on things.
Peoples is crazy onna Internet. Most will do ANYTHING to get attention, even stage an argument with themselves.
phoephoe
10-28-2004, 05:52 PM
Toonami isn't available where I live. It truly sucks because there are so many more reasons to watch the channel aside from Evo....
Peoples is crazy onna Internet.
I saw this and the only thing I could think of was seeing Albert Einstein saying it and with Bugs Bunnys voice.... It's been a long day...
Liquid Ice
10-28-2004, 10:42 PM
Wow howder/ss2 is a crazy muthafludpucker. Anywho, who wants grape koolaid. Holla.
C. Lee
10-29-2004, 03:49 AM
Hey C. Lee,
Am I the same person as anyone else?
You know, I've argued with A LOT of people in my time, but I just can't seem to remember if I've ever gotten into a heated debate with MYSELF before...:rolleyes:
Well, I thought you were me for a while....but we talked it over for a week or two, and now I plead the Fifth.
Surely you remember that time last year when you got mad at yourself for....hey, wait a second...how would I know about that...unless....I were you, or you were me, or...........schizophrenia, the multi player game you play by yourself.
Liquid Ice
10-29-2004, 02:55 PM
????? if a man makes love to himself does that mean he is a homosexual, or a rapist if he didnt want to do but forced himself to. Things that make you go hmmmmmmm. Holla.
Midnight Ice
11-01-2004, 08:29 PM
i think you can get all the episodes off of people from ebay! :xmen:
psylockolussus
11-12-2004, 05:00 AM
i miss x-men evolution hoping to see season5
jaydawg
11-22-2004, 03:45 AM
You guys all realize that until the show ditched the whole high school bull****, it sucked far more than TT? It took 2 seasons of crap to make a DECENT show. And people are already *****ing about The Batman.
Kmack
11-22-2004, 06:47 PM
Because The Batman is horrible, and it did first 2 seasons were not as good as the others but that doesn't mean they "sucked" I thought they were rather good....
jaydawg
12-02-2004, 06:54 PM
They were horrible and you know it. Save for the 2 part finales of each season and that Arcade episode, it was really, really bad. So 5 decent episodes in 2 season. Yeah, it was great......
usagicassidy
12-02-2004, 10:32 PM
Oh my god. They weren't horrible. Horrible is Wiggles. And the last seasons of Evolution were fabulous in my opinion.
Kmack
12-02-2004, 11:21 PM
I agree!:)
Dylliel
12-05-2004, 10:28 AM
So buy the DVDs. That's what I did. ._.;
Dread
12-06-2004, 04:54 PM
You guys all realize that until the show ditched the whole high school bull****, it sucked far more than TT? It took 2 seasons of crap to make a DECENT show. And people are already *****ing about The Batman.
They were horrible and you know it. Save for the 2 part finales of each season and that Arcade episode, it was really, really bad. So 5 decent episodes in 2 season. Yeah, it was great......
To each their own. I just feel the need to reply because you compare Evolution to "The Batman", which I don't think is fair.
The main criticism against Evolution usually was, as you noted it, "the high school bull****". Yet, for those who didn't want said bull, we had 5 seasons of the 90's X-Men cartoon (a classic in it's own right, on the same shelf as B:TAS and TMNT). Unfortunately, most fans in their comic adaptations want nothing new and only want near-blind repetition of the comic material again...and again...and again. I wonder how many times folks can see "The Dark Pheonix" story happen. This then is what brought out the hate of Evolution. It wasn't a blind carbon copy of what worked before. It dared to try something new.
True, it was far from perfect. I could write a long post regarding the fundamental flaws throughout the series. But I could also write a long post regarding it's strengths.
It revamped not only character ages and costumes, but the HISTORY of the X-Men as a team for the post "X-Men" movie crowd. It was a whole new continuity and universe, one made in many ways simplier. The characters, for better or worse were boiled down to their essence and revisioned from there. Some were actually quite faithful to some of their teenage counterparts (remember, some of the X-Men actually WERE teenagers when they joined). Others were fresh takes, most notably Rogue (who, alas, went on to hog much of the spotlight, even moreso than Wolverine). It started on a good foundation. I'd dare say the Evolution universe dared to be more original than a lot of the Ultimate X-Men's universe, frankly, in some ways.
The first season to me was a good foundation, with some core strengths and stories, but I felt it did not fully tap it's potential, and the 2-part finale to Season One, "The Cauldron", I felt was sub-par. And of course Spyke brought on more ire than Bendis killing as many Avengers as he liked.
The second season I will admit wasn't much of an improvement as they attempted to fill the screen with additional 12 or so mutants while the core 7 had not been fleshed yet. It therefore was cluttered with too many mutants vying for space and thus about half of the episodes were hit-or-miss. However, the last half of Season Two improved, and the finale for that season, "Day of Reckoning", brought on excellance that would continue for the rest of the 3rd season.
The third season ended the old status quo of mutants being a secret and established them into the public. Risks became more real and the story had more maturity and mood. Barring some stumbles it ended well.
The last season, unfortunately, had too many one-shot episodes that merely introduced new characters, rather than flesh old ones. X23 quickly became boring and Legion was a bit pointless. Still, their rendition of Apocalypse I loved not because of his power level (which is all that matters to 65% of fans), but his character, who was more than a standard "omnipotent villian" but actually felt he was doing what he had to. The series finale ended on a bang with an emotional few minutes that forever will be cemented into my memory.
I think one more season could have been excellent. But it is not to be.
"The Batman", on the other hand, offers us nothing we have not seen before and attempts to revamp Batman and his rogues for an attention starved generation raised on PS2 and dubbed, imported, merchadise-peddling anime, or at least it written like it is. It rarely has any depth, has poor lines, and even it's action oriented focus stumbles. Out of 9 episodes I can think of maybe 3 that were any good. Evolution fared much better with me in it's first season.
But...to each their own. Folks hated Evolution then and still do now. Much like anything else, we all have varying tastes.
I don't like Evolution because it was flawless, because it sure wasn't. I liked it because it was original, unique, and tried to do something new. I'll remember more of the emotions and the revamps in the series/universe moreso than the battles or costumes. But I can be funny that way.
Kmack
12-06-2004, 09:44 PM
Whoa, you people are the first that I've encountered in my life that has hated X-men Evolution...and you talk as if it was hated by the majority of the X fans. Which I can assure you is false (on these boards anyway). Back in the "good ol days" when the X-men Evolution forum was still around I never ran across a negative thread. And I'm not saying that all X-men fans liked it, but most of the regulars in the X-forums had nothing but good things to say about the show and how they were dying with anticipation for the next episodes....
Dread
12-07-2004, 08:25 PM
Oh, back in the "ol' days" when we had an Evolution forum, we got plenty of posters who didn't like the show, hated it, and would either bash it sporatically or such. They were a minority, though.
Most of those who didn't like Evolution didn't watch much of it and didn't post about it often.
But, yes, I have been aware of posters around here who didn't like it for a while. The largest complaints then, as now, were, "I hated the high school crap" and "it wasn't the 90's series", as well as "They're all kids, but some aren't...arrgh!"
Everyone's entitled to an opinion.
usagicassidy
12-07-2004, 10:01 PM
My biggest complaint has always been with Spyke. Other than that I loved it!
The episodes with Magneto and Sabertooth, Gambit, Pyro, and Colossus...what season was it in? And was it the beginning, middle, or end of the season>?
Kmack
12-08-2004, 12:36 AM
I agree, my only complaint also lied in Spyke...such an uninteresting (and just plain horrible) character.
TheVileOne
12-08-2004, 02:23 AM
X-men Evolution showed signs of improvement and maturity in the second and third seasons. I'd credit some of that to Curt Geda who became a director for the show around that time. To me, it still lacked the sophistication of the 90's X-men series, which I thought was able to be pretty bold for a Saturday morning cartoon at times.
X-men Evolution in the end had 4 seasons, 52 episodes, which isn't bad. At least the series had somewhat of a formal ending, even though there were plot threads implied or hinted at if they so decided to continue. I think fans should be happy that the series didn't end on a cliffhanger like Exo-Squad whom's season 2 ending was pretty heinous because there was nothing after it.
Kmack
12-08-2004, 07:29 PM
What's Exo-Squad:confused:
Dread
12-09-2004, 06:04 PM
Exo-Squad was a cartoon series that ran in 1993-1994. It was based in the future where hunger and war were eliminated, until the genetically created "servant" race, Neo-Sapiens, start a war for dominance. I never watched it but TvTome lists it as having 52 episodes, 49 of which aired in the second season.
usagicassidy, the episodes with those characters you listed were "Day of Reckoning" Parts 1 & 2 from the end of Season Two; that was the 2-part season finale.
Spyke was usually the symbol of hatred on the Evolution board. I feel the writers for a while didn't know what to do with him, and as such he remained a pile of sterotypes and tidbits until he followed in the steps of his inspiration, Marrow, and joined the Morlocks.
And of course, the initially interesting, but overall bland, X23 has been tapped by Marvel, likely seeking their own version of a Harley Quinn. Quinn's legacy is safe. :p
Kmack
12-09-2004, 11:05 PM
I HATED X23 WORST CHARACTER EVER!!!!!!!!!!!! I feel that I could endure D.E.R.B.I.E. even more than her:o
jaydawg
12-18-2004, 02:56 PM
It was the High School thing that bothered me the most. Just the logicstics of living at a School and going to a High School... what the hell? Sabertooth was butchard and it was full of retarded After school special subplots. I didnt mind that they were in high school, because like you stated, they were teens when the X-men were created. But so much of it was like, Does he like me? Does he like her? Shadowcat was written as a typical valley girl. No one talks like that. If I wanna see school problems, I'll go watch Spider-man. If I wanna see oppression, I'll go watch X-men. The series became decent overall once 3rd and 4th season happened and started getting more in tune with the defining themes in the comics, but theres no denying it, most of season 1 and 2 episodes were just plain bad. Particularly season 2 in which the team was overloaded (JLU anyone?). I respect if for trying to be different, dont get me wrong, but it was so different that things were just bad. Look at TMNT. Its completly different than the 80s show and totally kicks that shows ass.
Dread
12-18-2004, 03:44 PM
You're right, Season Two was overloaded with too many mutants. That was it's main problem and the episodes were hit-or-miss that season. There are a few episodes from Season Two I just want to forget...forever. But it picked up for the finale that season and went on from there. And there were some notable episodes in Season Two, even though it was the worst season of Evolution, IMO.
The "valley girl" thing for Kitty was annoying, but she WAS a major ditz in the comics when she joined at 13. Anyone remember some of her Sprite get-ups? She needed time to get smarter and she did in the show. She was leading a team of mutants in the series finale. Plus, she hadn't seen animation since the "Pryde of the X-Men" TV pilot. Evolution allowed for a lot of characters that the 90's series more or less ignored to get a chance for a new look, or just to be animated. Nightcrawler was a main star in Evo, while in the 90's series he was in all of 2 episodes (3 if you count an alternate reality, non-speaking cameo). Iceman was in one episode of the 90's series, barring flashbacks. In Evolution he had a few pivotal episodes.
As for the high school stuff, it depends on your tastes. I think a lot of people found it more relatable. It allowed them some time to be like normal teenagers before the spit started hitting the fan; but the X-Universe and it's fan are usually used to overloads of angst and darkness, so I can understand many folks not liking those bits. Functionally, it did seem a little lame to put the X-Men in the same school as the Brotherhood, but I saw it as practicing what they preached; getting out of the Mansion and INTERACTING with people, or at least learning to, as well as keeping your enemies close (as the saying goes).
That stuff may have also allowed Evolution to be a hit for an audience no one anticipated; girls. The ratings at the time showed that it was a strong seller for girls aged 9-15. Considering that half the characters were girls and Rogue got the most focus of any X-Man, it's no wonder. I don't think that fact should be overlooked so easily.
And Sabretooth wasn't much better in the 90's series, frankly. He was a little creepier there, but he didn't show up too much, either. Maybe 5 episodes. Although he did lay out Wolverine in Season One. Sabretooth never made or broke anything for me anyway. He's pretty much there to be Wolverine's enemy, and that's that.
Plus, TMNT honestly had an easier time beating the 80's series fundamentally than Evolution had of beating out the classic, beloved, 90's series, of which it was always in the shadow of.
Do I think TMNT is better than Evolution? Yes. I remember being more frustrated with Evolution and disapointed in it more often than I was/am with TMNT. But I still liked Evolution quite a bit.
jaydawg
12-21-2004, 07:52 PM
On your Iceman point, the one episode he was in was classic. The sole thing I remember Iceman doing in the several XE episodes he was in was watching Beast's back in the original 5 X-men episode. True XE did allow several minor characters spotlight, which isnt a bad thing, but it didnt really help out the show. Who honestly cared for Beserker? Boom Boom? Multipule Man (who was nothing more than a running joke that got old extremly fast.... I mean bumping him made him use his power....every god damn episode....)? BTW I'm not trying to measure XE to the classic 90s show, but it was hardly up to par with its constant quality.
Dread
12-22-2004, 07:12 PM
In Evolution, Iceman seemed to be the unofficial "leader" of the "New Mutant" type recruits. He really shined in Season Three when he hung around the core X-Men to rescue their allies in "Day of Recovery" and then fighting Juggernaut in an excellent battle in "Stuff of Heroes". And yes, allying with the other "classic" X-Men in "Under Lock and Key".
A constant figure throughout a few seasons who had his ups and downs, or one sole episode, then never to be seen again. I'll take the former.
Boom-Boom was a waste, I'll admit, an annoying character who sadly got her own episode. Berserker was stale and his connection to the Morlocks was unrevealed (although in canon he WAS one). But while Multiple was a 12 year old kid in Evolution, in the 90's series, he...was in one episode, too. That very same one with Iceman, where the X-Men battled X-Factor.
Don't get me wrong, I loved the 90's series. But Evolution at least allowed many classic mutants a chance to be on TV, and even to have a few moments. I can recall two memories of Multiple from Evolution; when he tackled who he thought was Sabretooth fearlessly in "Self Posessed" and helping Boom-Boom (they REALLY should have went with her other codename, Meltdown) fight a posessed Xavier in "Ascension Part 2".
It's apples and oranges, and in the eyes of some fans, a no-win battle. Had Evolution been more or less the SAME cartoon as the 90's series, all we would have heard was, "Why are they just ripping off the old show" or "why didn't they just bring the old show back?" It would have been ripped for lack of originality. Instead, it's ripped for not being a carbon copy of the 90's show. As I said above, some fans just want the same thing over...and over...and over. They want to see the Pheonix Saga done 5 different ways. Days of Future Past 4 different ways. Over and over and over. This recycling of stuff is really what can kill comic-related mediums.
Evolution wasn't quite a 100% success, sure. It had many flaws and blunders. But it was something unique. And I feel it managed to carve it's own niche in the history of animated comic cartoons, not just in the shadow of the 90's series.
The 90's series had a lot of maturity and managed to include all the sci-fi, hokey bits of the X-Men comics (like aliens and time-travel) and managed to make it all work with flowing storyarcs. On the other hand, after Season 2 Wolverine pretty much was the star, and many characters were completely ignored or used rarely, despite their roles in the X-mythos. I also recall the epic battles a lot more than the interpersonal relations for a good reason.
Evolution I feel was more about interpersonal stuff than fighting. I'll remember their revamped Nightcrawler and his relationship with Kitty and then Amanda longer than I'll recall anyone he beat up.
Trying to compare the two for me is like comparing two different things, because they're very distinct, each on their own path.
Hey, I got season one box set on DVD. In "Shadowed Past" at the beginning, when Rogue is having the dream she sees Mystique running from the castle calling Magneto a monster and him chasing ehr. I dont know if this was something made for the show that just wasnt fully explained or of their is any history in the comics with this particular event. I know its her son, but did Magneto do somethign to maker him blue, what would he have done to him that made her so frightened,a nd why would she still end up working for him 15 years later. Hmmm.
Dread
12-26-2004, 09:24 PM
Magneto likely tested an early version of his "genetic enhancer" on Kurt, since that is the machine he made in the season finale of the first season. As for why Mystique would continue to work for him years later...I don't know. One of the flaws of the series is that a lot of the focus was slanted towards the teenagers, and a lot of interesting bits from the adults were ignored.
Oh. I spoke to soon. Just watched the spcial features. producer Boyd Kirkland said in the castle it was puposely unclear because they were doing something that wasnt true to thye comics to a tee. But he said Magneto awoken Kurt's x-gene as a baby.
Dread
12-27-2004, 09:32 PM
Which makes sense, therefore, that he tested an early prototype for his Genetic Enhancer on baby Kurt. That was always my assumption, since that machine would turn up shortly after "Shadowed Past" aired.
apexone09
01-02-2005, 12:05 AM
Yeah, now I've seen commercials for some stupid Robot Monkeys ? How stupid.
Atleast the original 90's version of X-Men is still on.Really?? What channel in SCV can u watch it on?? I wanna watch!!
Kimpossible
01-02-2005, 05:09 PM
Evolution really grew on me. Just as I feel it's getting to the best point, they pull the plug. :(
Silver Sable
01-10-2005, 10:48 PM
Why did they stop airing it? It was getting so good! :confused: :mad:
Kmack
01-11-2005, 07:40 AM
I know:( I think they could have went further into the Phoenix saga in the next season....
Apparently, when shows based on comics do well its mandatory for them to pull them off the air. However they dont do this with other successful shows like Pokemon or anything.
Dread
01-19-2005, 05:00 PM
I don't know off hand why Kid's WB didn't renew X-Men Evolution. They had contracted 52 episodes and even after an 8 month gap of reruns and haitus before the last 12 episodes were shown, the ratings were still pretty decent (for anything non-Pokemon at the time, anyway). But despite the cult status they never renewed for another season. In fact, the last 12 episodes (which was the end of Season 3 and the entire Season 4, which had 9 episodes) have never been reaired...anywhere.
It still seems to be the intention to peddle the series out on DVD, since the most recent one, which has the end of Season Two, came out at the end of November.
WB hasn't been exactly flawless in the distribution or handling of some of their series.
I agree, the show was getting good (although Season Four had it's share of bungles) and ended on a high note. The finale even gave an excellent reason for totally revamping the show a bit for a Season Five, but it was an option not taken.
Silver Sable
01-19-2005, 11:10 PM
if the show was still on, I was hoping to see an episode where Magma and Pyro 1st meet and possibly fall for each other
XmEnfAn
01-19-2005, 11:17 PM
Man I miss the show too, it was really getting good and then they discontinue it... sucks.
apexone09
01-21-2005, 05:48 AM
they used to show it on kids central rite? So hard to believe it was replaced by ninja turtles....WTH!!
XmEnfAn
01-21-2005, 07:06 PM
Ninja turtles?! X Men Evolution is way better. Well for me at least. :)
Magneto29
01-21-2005, 10:38 PM
I remember Ninja Turtles from when I was like 6, lol.
apexone09
01-21-2005, 11:44 PM
Ninja turtles?! X Men Evolution is way better. Well for me at least. :)LOL i totally agree with tat
XmEnfAn
01-22-2005, 01:28 PM
If there was actually some smart person out there, they would start making X Men evolution again if they know what's best for them :p I mean didn't they get high ratings for this show, who wouldn't watch it?
Kmack
01-22-2005, 03:54 PM
Ninja turtles?! X Men Evolution is way better. Well for me at least. :)
I agree:up:
XmEnfAn
01-22-2005, 11:47 PM
Man and it was getting really good too. :(
Kmack
01-24-2005, 09:41 AM
Seriously and my hopes were so high! I wanted more Moonstar!:mad:
Canadian-beauty
01-24-2005, 10:05 AM
I am assuming that the majority of the people missing x-men evolution is young because this cartoon in no way represents any of the x-men characters in the books. And it is misleading so many viewers into believing that these storylines appeared in the x-books. If you want a better understanding of what I am talking about then watch the family channel. Because they are currently showing the x-men cartoon according to how it is written in the books.
Dread
01-24-2005, 04:30 PM
I don't want to get into TMNT here. I love the show adamently and don't want to bring this topic on the wrong course.
I think it's a bit dumb to not air Evolution anywhere, yet peddle out the DVD's. Reruns would at least allow new fans to discover it and likely boost sales. It works for other shows (especially dubbed anime), so why not do it here?
Evolution had a lot of potential and it's a shame it had to go. But at least it ended on a peak.
Kmack
01-25-2005, 09:03 PM
I am assuming that the majority of the people missing x-men evolution is young because this cartoon in no way represents any of the x-men characters in the books. And it is misleading so many viewers into believing that these storylines appeared in the x-books. If you want a better understanding of what I am talking about then watch the family channel. Because they are currently showing the x-men cartoon according to how it is written in the books.
It isn't good to assume. Kinda why you got ate alive in the FF forums. For assuming things about Jessica Alba and not backing them with facts:o
Anyhow, I probably know as much as you do about the comics and I definetely have read and own a lot of the comics. I am 16 and know that what is put on TV isn't always accurate. And I don't think the creators of X-men Evolution really wanted to be accurate. They just wanted to take the X-men Universe and create something orginal, which they did.
Slim_X
01-26-2005, 12:26 AM
to those around the area, cartoon network is airing x-men evolution in mexico, saturdays at 2pm and sundays at 3am
Kmack
01-26-2005, 07:36 AM
*packs up and travels to Mexico*:D
apexone09
01-26-2005, 08:29 AM
to those around the area, cartoon network is airing x-men evolution in mexico, saturdays at 2pm and sundays at 3amWhat?! Seriously?! Only mexico?? This is crap man...I wana watch x-men again...wana see Beast in action!!
AnnoyingSilence
01-26-2005, 12:44 PM
i remember when i was about... i think 8,9 maybe(23 now) when it first came out. i can't get away from what voices they had back then, even now. exspecially on hte xmen legends game... makes me sick to hear thier voices...
Slim_X
01-26-2005, 01:53 PM
What?! Seriously?! Only mexico?? This is crap man...I wana watch x-men again...wana see Beast in action!!
i think most of latin america too.
Magneto29
01-27-2005, 10:43 AM
Here is America we're stuck with the old original X-Men cartoons. I never liked those the stories and episodes didn't connect very well.
Kmack
01-27-2005, 05:50 PM
I have to admit, I like Evolution better than TAS:o
homez
01-27-2005, 06:55 PM
I didn't like Evolution at first, then as the series went on, and each season got better, I started to love it. They still play it in Canada, on YTV every Saturday morning, and I still watch it every week, even though I've seen every episode a hundred times :)
I love TAS series as well, and it isn't played here, I miss that series sooo much! LoL
apexone09
01-28-2005, 05:13 AM
i think most of lating america too.America?Oooh man i feel so depress now...cause i am in singapore not mexico nor amrica....*sob*
Magneto29
01-28-2005, 04:51 PM
hmmm, If it is still in Canada, I wonder if my grandfather gets it where he lives. He's still in the U.S, but only like a mile from the border. He gets some Canadian stations.
Slim_X
01-28-2005, 10:45 PM
you can watch the trailer for the new evo dvd here: http://www2.warnerbros.com/video/xmen_mystiques/
apexone09
01-29-2005, 07:39 AM
wow,kinda awsome,thanks for showing the tralier pal.Feeling a bit better now,now all i got to do is find where to buy the DVD.Had to watch the tralier 3 times cause my grandmother was nagging at me for coming back home so late...dammit it was only 7pm!!My head is gonna burst!!
Kmack
01-30-2005, 06:49 PM
Thanx for the link Slim:)
XmEnfAn
01-31-2005, 10:37 PM
Man watching the trailer makes me want to watch the episodes again. :(
Gambit
02-20-2005, 03:43 PM
I hated xmen evolution it is not like the real xmen From GAMBIT
Kmack
02-20-2005, 08:30 PM
I hated xmen evolution it is not like the real xmen From GAMBIT
WTF:confused: Anyway, welcome to the Hype:)
guyverfanboy
03-02-2005, 02:20 PM
How many episodes was X-Men Evolution?
Lethal Venom
03-02-2005, 02:24 PM
I think over 30. I'm not to sure :confused: I haven't seen many.
guyverfanboy
03-02-2005, 02:25 PM
I think over 30. I'm not to sure :confused: I haven't seen many.
That's not much. I wish they would release the dvds faster!
Lethal Venom
03-02-2005, 02:27 PM
:( I miss seeing the episodes. I live in England and they hardly show many :angry:
Liam Goody UK
03-02-2005, 04:08 PM
I live In England too, they have only got it on Toonami and I had to switch to Telewest TV about 4 months ago and I havent had it since.....
Lethal Venom
03-02-2005, 04:10 PM
:( Thats a shame I never manange too see it now :(
digigirl02
03-31-2005, 06:44 PM
I loved Evo, its what got me into the X-Men universe, I would love if they would bring it back, especially on CN(who I am mad at for cancelling DBZ) since I missed some of the later episodes. I now try to get my X-Men fix, on ABC Family with the classic X-men.
addismad
04-01-2005, 02:06 PM
it had 4 seasons, 52 episodes in total, there is about 10 i havnt seen and i really want them on DVD asap
Kmack
05-01-2005, 11:20 PM
Does anyone know what seasons are on DVD:confused:
XmEnfAn
05-02-2005, 10:05 PM
Sorry Kmack, I'm not quite sure.
Slim_X
05-02-2005, 11:49 PM
Does anyone know what seasons are on DVD:confused:
all the episodes from season 1 and 2
Magneto29
05-03-2005, 05:16 PM
I used to have a few on vhs tapes, but they've probably been taped over by now.
The Storm
05-04-2005, 03:45 PM
I looked in HMV the other day they only had a few episodes on DVD and they were from the first season. Try CDWOW or Playusa, Play has a Europeon site as well.
X-Freak
05-04-2005, 07:39 PM
i LOVED the last episode, where it showed phoenix, and rogue was flying too, that was AWESOME!
Dread
05-04-2005, 09:20 PM
The last episode was very good. Especially since it actually was upbeat and hopeful. Honestly a lot of X-Stuff is very dark and leads to them being all hunted and killed by Sentinals in dark futures. The end of "Ascension" provided a realistic but still positive message. I liked that.
bored
05-31-2005, 11:55 AM
CN is playing repeats again, for those interested.
Duneboy
05-31-2005, 08:20 PM
I have the 1st season of X men Evoltution & it's nowhere near as great as the FOX cartoon from the mid 90's. Yet, I would like to see the further episodes from *Evolution* & why Marvel/Fox haven't released the 90's cartoon in a dvd collection is beyond me!! Atleast we're getting the Fantatsic Four cartoon collection this summer.
tristapussy
06-05-2005, 06:05 PM
i LOVED the last episode, where it showed phoenix, and rogue was flying too, that was AWESOME!
Best episode ever...
Chick
06-08-2005, 08:37 AM
Gambit from Evolution is wierd . . . THE HAIR!!! What's with his hair!!!! They butchered his hair!!!
Doomed Hero Rising
06-11-2005, 06:12 PM
I liked the episodes involving Apocolypse where like they had magneto team with the X-men.Also Quicksilver was in it now that was cool and Toad was cool in it to. PS Has the mutant Spyke from the show who was created for it been in any X-men comics
Zues4Life
06-13-2005, 05:37 PM
I thought that it was coming back but that was 2 years ago.I hope that they make a new X-Men cartoon that doesn't get canceled cuz X-Men Evolution was a great show.
The X-Men cartoon of the 90's was good too and lasted a while.
EnSabahNur
06-16-2005, 03:57 PM
I liked the episodes involving Apocolypse where like they had magneto team with the X-men.Also Quicksilver was in it now that was cool and Toad was cool in it to. PS Has the mutant Spyke from the show who was created for it been in any X-men comics
im pretty sure he was but not as a main character
Zues4Life
06-17-2005, 11:56 PM
Spyke was a good character but to bad that he left the X-Men at the end of the show.I totally wanted to see that resolved.
FieryBalrog
06-18-2005, 02:54 AM
I am assuming that the majority of the people missing x-men evolution is young because this cartoon in no way represents any of the x-men characters in the books. And it is misleading so many viewers into believing that these storylines appeared in the x-books. If you want a better understanding of what I am talking about then watch the family channel. Because they are currently showing the x-men cartoon according to how it is written in the books.
my, how patronizing... I've read all the back issues of X-men- Uncanny, X-men, most of the important miniseries... and I still liked Evolution a lot. I actually liked it BETTER than the original series, which was at times quite over-the-top, silly and had little to no character development for people not named Wolverine.
EnSabahNur
06-19-2005, 08:44 AM
yeah the diferent comics sometimes dont follow each other either
giz_19
06-19-2005, 04:44 PM
i missed the last ep but a friend said @ the end ther were shots of the x-men in the future, does any1 hav pics of these????:hyper:
StormDragon318
06-20-2005, 01:43 PM
i missed the last ep but a friend said @ the end ther were shots of the x-men in the future, does any1 hav pics of these????http://www.superherohype.com/forums/images/smilies/hyperhead.gif
If you go to Beyond Evolution http://www.x-men.toonzone.net (http://www.x-men.toonzone.net/) there is a navigation list at the left - click on Image Gallery and you should find the pictures your looking for when you click on the last episode in the list that comes up.
Gambit from Evolution is wierd . . . THE HAIR!!! What's with his hair!!!! They butchered his hair!!!
Yeh Gambit's bowl cut was definitely stupid but the rest of their haircuts, and character designs in general, improved from the 90s series. Their costume designs were much better and Rogue and Storm had realistic hair instead of just big messes.
RangerKing
06-20-2005, 02:07 PM
Big hair was in back then so from the time it aired it was realistic.
DOG LIPS
06-25-2005, 09:08 PM
I found a few tapes full of eps of Evo, and I had really forgotten how good the series was. I used to just record them cause it was X-men, but didn't really LOVE the show, but now that I've watched a couple dozen eps I really miss it too. :(
I wish that after X-Men: Evo ended they had made a Spider-Man evolution type of show. In wake of the first or second movie, and then the new FF toon could have been the same type.
It would be nice to have a Marvel Animated Universe with proper co-existance and continuuity to it.
Duneboy
07-04-2005, 03:09 PM
the MTV Spidey cartoon took place after the 1st film.
Langoth
07-04-2005, 07:32 PM
X-men Evolution's last season was just not cool IMO.
I loved Season 1, season 2 was good, and Season 3 was ok. But I thought Season 4 was plain bad...
And for the record, the Fox Animated Series is still 100X better then Evolution, any season.
Chris Wallace
07-04-2005, 09:28 PM
I'm so pissed this cartoon does not come on anymore!! It was so awesome. I bet Moonstar would have joined the team in the next Season!! I am so pissed!!
There are waaaay too many stupid cartoons out nowadays (Teen Titans is awful and so is the new Batman cartoon). I need some X-MEN!!!!!!!!!! :p
There need to be some new X-men cartoon this is torture!!!!
Phew, glad to get that out of my system. :) :xmen:
I hated that show.
the MTV Spidey cartoon took place after the 1st film.
I know, but I meant they should have made a new Spider-Man animated series in th syle of Evo. Like animation and story arc wise. It could exist in the same time frame as Evo. To show that characters exist in the same world. The MTV series had nothing to do with any other shows.
I just meant Marvel could have used this oppurtunity to make a proper new Marvel animated universe.
spiderxxman
07-18-2005, 10:15 PM
I'm so pissed this cartoon does not come on anymore!! It was so awesome. I bet Moonstar would have joined the team in the next Season!! I am so pissed!!
There are waaaay too many stupid cartoons out nowadays (Teen Titans is awful and so is the new Batman cartoon). I need some X-MEN!!!!!!!!!! :p
There need to be some new X-men cartoon this is torture!!!!
Phew, glad to get that out of my system. :) :xmen:
That was such an awsome show!!! I really miss it too!:( And I really don't like the other one.:down It's okay I guess.:(
Sauron
07-24-2005, 02:40 PM
I went to Suncoast video about two months ago and asked for some of those dvd's that I missed and he said they're out of print but, they're putting out a box set of dvds.
I hope this is true and has anyone heard of anything, I missed the last few episodes of Evolution, did they at least get to finish the story line they were in or did it just stop?
Hellion
08-23-2005, 11:51 PM
I miss Evolution too! I did enjoy TAS more than Evolution, but Evolution's finale was way better. At least they still show reruns of TAS. They should just release the remaining episodes/seasons of both (TAS and Evolution) on dvd. Not what they did in the past...release a few episodes on a dvd, in no particular order...but put out the entire series of 1 or the other or both on dvd. Maybe when X3 comes out...but we'll probably get another Legend of Wolverine type dvd. I'd also do anything for a set that wasn't from ebay.
http://smileys.smileycentral.com/cat/4/4_9_7.gif (http://www.smileycentral.com/?partner=ZSzeb001_ZCxdm492YYUS)
Hellion
08-23-2005, 11:53 PM
Hopefully the rumours about bringing back evolution or a new X-men cartoon are true!
Schemer
06-11-2006, 03:07 AM
"I have the 1st season of X men Evoltution & it's nowhere near as great as the FOX cartoon from the mid 90's. Yet, I would like to see the further episodes from *Evolution* & why Marvel/Fox haven't released the 90's cartoon in a dvd collection is beyond me!! Atleast we're getting the Fantatsic Four cartoon collection this summer."
Thats terrible I watched both. The Animated series stuck more to the comic canon, true but had bad animation, especially in the last season and was full of corny dialogue and horrible one liners. Watch the first episode Wolverine says "I go where I wanna go" at least 10 times. There's not really any character development and everything looks very cheesey the cartoon was produced in the 90's yet has a mid 80's feel to it. Evolution went towards a young audience and changed a lot of backstory angering many older fans but watchin the full series you see much much better character development and the story telling is more to the point and done better. The animated series randomly through story lines from the comics without really tying them together well. Theyd beat apcalypse than the next episode would pop Mr.Sinister in out of nowhere than next episode back to the sentinels. I think if Evolution were continued they were woulda went a lil darker with The Phoenix saga, Nimrod Saga etc. Maybe WB was concerned and pulled the plug. In terms of char development Evolution was better than the three movies and the first cartoon...
CapBeerCino
06-11-2006, 12:57 PM
Maybe WB was concerned and pulled the plug. In terms of char development Evolution was better than the three movies and the first cartoon...
Lol true. (it had more time to develope characters than the movies though)
Punisher RULES
06-11-2006, 11:13 PM
It was a good show to watch before bed.
i agree:up: :up:
Silver Sable
06-12-2006, 10:09 PM
I didn't know where else to post this (besides my art thread) but I'm a huge Amara/Pyro shipper fan and I just wanted to show you my drawings of them.I hope you all will like them
http://i15.photobucket.com/albums/a390/Dazzler619/SleepingLovers.jpg
http://i15.photobucket.com/albums/a390/Dazzler619/SleepingBeauty.jpg
http://i15.photobucket.com/albums/a390/Dazzler619/Scan0034.jpg
http://i15.photobucket.com/albums/a390/Dazzler619/AmaraandSt.jpg
DarknessOfDeath
06-12-2006, 10:38 PM
Holy smokes...how do u get away with posting that?
Last friday, I spent half the day watching all of X-Men evolution. LOL ... though there are episodes I've already seen a while back, but nothing wrong with watching them again. hehe. good stuff. ... too bad it ended.
Abaddon
06-12-2006, 10:51 PM
You made Amara look like Kurt's girlfriend.
Silver Sable
06-12-2006, 11:13 PM
Well Amara and Amanda both look like each other a little :O
Kmack
06-12-2006, 11:50 PM
Ooooh steamy:up:
Abaddon
06-12-2006, 11:55 PM
Well Amara and Amanda both look like each other a little :O
whatever,perv.:p
Cyclops
06-13-2006, 12:12 AM
Awww, cute sex. Based on a kids' cartoon.
Egad, Sable, get some therapy!
Darth Rockwell
06-13-2006, 11:12 AM
so there were only three seasons sadness. I just picked up the third season and am enjoying it. Wonder what it would take to get people to think about bringing it back or maybe just making animated movies based off of it like they did with BTA.
Abaddon
06-13-2006, 12:29 PM
There were four seasons.
Nathan
06-13-2006, 12:32 PM
Something I found while searching for Jean pics on google. :eek:
http://hostingprod.com/@suechan.com/art/reflectvekiss.jpg
November Rain
06-13-2006, 12:33 PM
the best of evolution rival the best of any animated marvel production, even the majority of dcau...
the problem were too many unnecessary fillers, if you cut the fat and leave all the blissful episodes, (around 12) then it's purely sublime.
Nathan
06-13-2006, 12:35 PM
Were there any plans to continue the Evolution cartoon?
ILuvCyclops
06-13-2006, 12:39 PM
Were there any plans to continue the Evolution cartoon?
I have no idea, but I hope there were. Was such a good show.
Nathan
06-13-2006, 12:42 PM
I hated it that we only got a glimpse of the Future. :(
http://img233.imageshack.us/img233/1572/phoenix9eh.gif (http://imageshack.us)
Silver Sable
06-13-2006, 03:31 PM
Egad, Sable, get some therapy!
For what? :mad:
Darth Rockwell
06-14-2006, 12:58 AM
so there were four seasons? Anyone know when season four will be released on dvd?
November Rain
06-14-2006, 04:44 AM
I hated it that we only got a glimpse of the Future. :(
http://img233.imageshack.us/img233/1572/phoenix9eh.gif (http://imageshack.us)future glimpses were some of the best bits....
i only wished we got more, so many things were implied, like death of wolverine, gambit joining the team at some oint and then leaving his jacket for rogue (who i believe had now gained the ability of flight) etc...
it would have been nice to see cable and bishop...
i wonder what kinda story lines would be available if they wished to progress the show further...
ILuvCyclops
06-14-2006, 06:21 AM
I hated it that we only got a glimpse of the Future. :(
http://img233.imageshack.us/img233/1572/phoenix9eh.gif (http://imageshack.us)
Her face is scary....
Abaddon
06-14-2006, 09:59 PM
http://tatooine.fortunecity.com/bear/353/rachel1.jpg
future glimpses were some of the best bits....
i only wished we got more, so many things were implied, like death of wolverine, gambit joining the team at some oint and then leaving his jacket for rogue (who i believe had now gained the ability of flight) etc...
it would have been nice to see cable and bishop...
i wonder what kinda story lines would be available if they wished to progress the show further...
There was no implication about Logan's death,and Rogue appeared to be wearing Gambit's coat. Also,its worth noting that she wasn't wearing gloves.:confused:
Yellow Ranger
06-14-2006, 10:28 PM
the last 5 minutes of the last episode were my favorite moments of the series. i remember when it ended, it was up in the air if the show would return for a fifth season or not. everyone waited and waited, then they decided to cancel production. i was so angry.
November Rain
06-15-2006, 10:22 AM
http://tatooine.fortunecity.com/bear/353/rachel1.jpg
There was no implication about Logan's death,and Rogue appeared to be wearing Gambit's coat. Also,its worth noting that she wasn't wearing gloves.:confused:well he wasn't in the line up and x23 had joined up and i wouldn't understand why the team would require people of the same abilities (although an older x23 could technically be better than wolvie). his absence in my mind is an indication of death rather than simplly being somewhere else.
interesting about the gloves thing...she did look pretty badass in that last scene, heh, maybe she just did a training session and knocked wolverine out, and that's why she had a moody look on her face and would also explain his absence.
i do have to say both nightcrawler's initial costume and future costume are his best in the marvel universe. he looked so damn cool. and wanda looked incredibly hot...reminds me of how jean looked in the last stand, probably that was there motivation...
jean's presence reminded me of what wanda might had been like. in the x-men films...
Darth Rockwell
06-15-2006, 11:06 AM
but does anyone know when season four will be released on dvd?
Abaddon
06-15-2006, 04:02 PM
well he wasn't in the line up and x23 had joined up and i wouldn't understand why the team would require people of the same abilities (although an older x23 could technically be better than wolvie). his absence in my mind is an indication of death rather than simplly being somewhere else.
I actually never noticed he wasn't in that scene until you mentioned it,but Logan was probably just on hiatus much like he was when the show first premiered. What I found most interesting,apart from the glove thing,was that Jean was not in that scene. The show never really dealt with death(though Rogue destroying Mystique came pretty damn close),so I wouldn't expect any character to bite it in the future.
DarknessOfDeath
06-15-2006, 04:15 PM
Her face is scary....
just like in x3 :eek::p
Yellow Ranger
06-15-2006, 07:08 PM
http://i73.photobucket.com/albums/i222/yellowranger1/char_design_01_04p03.jpg
Yellow Ranger
06-15-2006, 07:09 PM
http://i73.photobucket.com/albums/i222/yellowranger1/char_design_01_04p01.jpg
Nathan
06-15-2006, 07:15 PM
I'm still wondering how X-23 can actually grow when her bones are laced with Adamantium.
Schemer
06-15-2006, 11:38 PM
here was no implication about Logan's death,and Rogue appeared to be wearing Gambit's coat. Also,its worth noting that she wasn't wearing gloves.:confused:
The costumes seem to suggest the future x-men based off ulimate X-men. Where rogue absorbs Gambits power just before his death, and some how can touch again (Could be wrong).
Also for the person who mentioned no Jean Grey.. the future x-men comes up just after a Phoenix clip so guess they killed her off for a while.
Darth Rockwell
06-15-2006, 11:49 PM
Hmm I just ordred season one from Amazon. I hate waiting. GGGRRRR
Abaddon
06-15-2006, 11:50 PM
The costumes seem to suggest the future x-men based off ulimate X-men. Where rogue absorbs Gambits power just before his death, and some how can touch again (Could be wrong).
Also for the person who mentioned no Jean Grey.. the future x-men comes up just after a Phoenix clip so guess they killed her off for a while.
Nah,Evolution ended long before Rogue absorbed Gambit.
Decay
06-16-2006, 11:14 AM
X-men Evolution was a really good show. I don't think I'll ever see new episodes of it...that's sad:(.
Yellow Ranger
06-17-2006, 12:18 AM
X-men Evolution was a really good show. I don't think I'll ever see new episodes of it...that's sad:(.
hey, family guy was brought back after a massive boost in popularity. maybe if cartoon network would start playing episodes and evolution got a large following, they'd start making new episodes...................but that's just wishful thinking.
Schemer
06-17-2006, 06:48 PM
I meant the scene at the end where the show her flying with no gloves and gambits coat.
Abaddon
06-17-2006, 07:51 PM
I meant the scene at the end where the show her flying with no gloves and gambits coat.
So did I.
Darth Rockwell
07-11-2006, 10:10 PM
My order finally got here!!! It is great. So many awsome episodes but not enough :( I wish there were more. Can't wait for season two when I get enough money!!!
DarknessOfDeath
07-12-2006, 12:47 PM
I miss it. -sighs- Its weird cause Logan is apart of the X-Men but shows no sign of having any feelings for Jean LOL... its funny.
Nathan
07-12-2006, 12:58 PM
Maybe because she wasn't legal in the show?
DarknessOfDeath
07-12-2006, 01:03 PM
I suspect that, but still. it makes me laugh but at the same time, relieved that its only scott who has his eyes for Jean. awww.
Darth Rockwell
07-12-2006, 03:55 PM
I really wanted it to be different from the other stuff. I really liked the relationship that they toyed with for a bit between Rogue and Cyc. See I would have liked that developed. Oh well. Anyway that is just my feeling opinion.
As for Logan, well I would have liked him to hit on Storm and help get the stick out of her butt.
DarknessOfDeath
07-12-2006, 04:30 PM
what stick? :eek:
*xmenfan*
07-13-2006, 07:50 AM
I loved evolution i have seen every single episode! I whished they kept it going and have a pheonix saga init. o well .... :(
Shadow_Knight
07-13-2006, 03:30 PM
Man I loved this show and I wish it comes back I used to watch it 20 4 seven infact I still do on DVD.
Lil_Flip246
07-13-2006, 10:38 PM
I'm so pissed this cartoon does not come on anymore!! It was so awesome. I bet Moonstar would have joined the team in the next Season!! I am so pissed!!
There are waaaay too many stupid cartoons out nowadays (Teen Titans is awful and so is the new Batman cartoon). I need some X-MEN!!!!!!!!!! :p
There need to be some new X-men cartoon this is torture!!!!
Phew, glad to get that out of my system. :) :xmen: If you miss it you can go to YouTube where fans have posted some videos!! :)
Lil_Flip246
07-13-2006, 10:39 PM
There's an Xmen tv show in the works. It's based mainly on Wolverine. It will be a mixture of 2D/3D animation. It will come to your televisions screens in 2007.
Darth Rockwell
07-14-2006, 12:45 AM
what stick? :eek:
Storm was my least favorite character on that sow. She was just a total stuck up snob it seemed.
Abaddon
07-14-2006, 12:49 AM
Storm was my least favorite character on that sow. She was just a total stuck up snob it seemed.
:confused:
Kmack
07-14-2006, 11:23 AM
Storm was my least favorite character on that sow. She was just a total stuck up snob it seemed.
LOL! She didn't even have enough "screentime" to have that much of an impact.
Kmack
07-14-2006, 11:25 AM
If you miss it you can go to YouTube where fans have posted some videos!! :)
I know! I've been watching them:D
November Rain
07-14-2006, 11:34 AM
I actually never noticed he wasn't in that scene until you mentioned it,but Logan was probably just on hiatus much like he was when the show first premiered. What I found most interesting,apart from the glove thing,was that Jean was not in that scene. The show never really dealt with death(though Rogue destroying Mystique came pretty damn close),so I wouldn't expect any character to bite it in the future.true, although perhaps his death and jean's were intertwined, like the last stand...
:o:o
I don't see why they would show pics of a full squad and have them absent if not for a specific week.
i would understand why jean wouldn't be there, at the time in question is probably went she turned to the dark pheonix since it's highlighted.
xavier isn't there either and magneto is teaching the younger ones which may show that maybe something comes up that leads to his demise, i don't see any other reason why magneto would join the x-men personally unless something had happened to xavier.
there was plenty of things to explore in that short clip, i love future clips, they keep the mind agile and on its toes while never given any true indication on how the present will eventually meet that future.
November Rain
07-14-2006, 11:37 AM
I'm still wondering how X-23 can actually grow when her bones are laced with Adamantium.that's a great point.
although do we know her claws are actually made of adamantium or is that purely an assumption?
Abaddon
07-14-2006, 02:03 PM
LOL! She didn't even have enough "screentime" to have that much of an impact.
It was pretty sad. She would only show up when it dealt Spyke,or if they needed someone to make a wind or something.:(
DarknessOfDeath
07-14-2006, 03:17 PM
I liked that Episode. it showed a little of Rolo which I liked. I liked storm in evolution but she only showed up in certain scenes when the X-Men needed her most which was fine but still I liked her a lot here than movieverse. :D
The_Vision
07-14-2006, 04:09 PM
I thought the episode with Captain America was one of the best!!
DonnyLebeau
07-15-2006, 01:22 PM
I thought the episode with Captain America was one of the best!!
It certainly was... it seemed like the episode "On Angels Wings" was the turning point of the series. Almost every episode made after it was superb and the show hit its high point.
There were limitless possibilities for the series and it is a REAL shame that it didn't get a fifth season. The fact was, it was not a marketing juggernaut like Pokemon, Digimon, Yu-Gi Oh, etc. and that is why it got cancelled.
When the show's nature tailored more towards an older audience in Seasons 3 & 4, Kids WB! dropped it and would not allow the final 12 episodes to air on ANY other network.
I am glad I bought a bootleg version of the ENTIRE series on DVD and can enjoy it at my leisure. It is really amazing the work Boyd Kirkland and crew did and it's becuz of guys like them that we can enjoy such quality animated programming:up:
Darth Rockwell
07-17-2006, 01:04 AM
there were 12 unaired eps?!?!?!
Abaddon
07-17-2006, 01:08 AM
they aired,they just never reaired.
Neptune
07-23-2006, 11:55 AM
they aired,they just never reaired.
Are those the episodes with Apocalypse? Those were great. Especially the last one where they showed a few things to come: Jean going Dark Phoenix, The Brotherhood working for the governement and Gambit with the X-men.
Bastila
07-23-2006, 12:55 PM
^
Those ones are on YouTube if you want to see them?
Telekinetic
07-23-2006, 06:28 PM
i loved the eps when magneto was bringing everyone to astroid M and everyone was battleing to get in and mystique and storm fight, that was one of my favorite fights on the show.
if the show wasnt cancelled psylocke and emma frost would of made appearences since the evolution counterparts were already drawn out.
usagicassidy
09-14-2006, 01:42 AM
So I know I'm digging this thread up...but does any one have any clue when season 4 is going to come out on DVD?! You'd think they'd want to do it around the release of the X3 DVD, seeing as how there's no other 'X-movies' coming out any time, but there's been no word on it, or has there?
Telekinetic
09-16-2006, 04:11 PM
i have no clue. hopefully soon.
Bastila
09-16-2006, 04:14 PM
i loved the eps when magneto was bringing everyone to astroid M and everyone was battleing to get in and mystique and storm fight, that was one of my favorite fights on the show.
Never saw that one.
Also on some kids channel here every morning at 9:30 they show evoloution so i try to catch it, I really liked Evolution so cool.
TKing
09-16-2006, 05:24 PM
Never saw that one.
He's thinking of the season 1 episodes, The Cauldron Part 1 and 2.
Well, here in the UK, only season 1 has been released on DVD and the first volume from season 2. I'm getting worried. :cmad: I hope they release the other volumes soon.
trustyside-kick
09-17-2006, 01:12 PM
X-Men Evolution was a great show; I enjoyed it a whole lot. Why did the stop making episodes?
Telekinetic
09-17-2006, 06:09 PM
here is what emma and psylocke would of looked like later in the show if it kept on going. they look cool to me:hyper:
http://evolution.eracerx.com/images/misc/sketchbook_psylocke.jpg
http://evolution.eracerx.com/images/misc/sketchbook_emma.jpg
Avalanche
09-17-2006, 06:14 PM
Not a massive fan of the Psylocke look. They've not quite nailed it. Love the Emma Frost one however. It would have been great to see them making appearances.
November Rain
09-18-2006, 05:13 AM
here is what emma and psylocke would of looked like later in the show if it kept on going. they look cool to me:hyper:
http://evolution.eracerx.com/images/misc/sketchbook_psylocke.jpg
http://evolution.eracerx.com/images/misc/sketchbook_emma.jpgwhat do you mean by 'kept on making'
frost looks like she should be older than the other students but that psylocke looks very old indeed...
Would they have just skipped to the timeline the professor saw in his visions from apocalypse or would they have continued in the normal timeline.
if it is the latter, than psylocked looks out of place, i prefer the younger look mystique was using and i'm not too sure such a revealing costume would be appropriated for a youngster....
besides, the good thing about the x-men is the fact that they look like a team, especially in evolution. Psylocke doesn't look like she fits into that team look with that outfit.
November Rain
09-18-2006, 05:16 AM
I'm still wondering how X-23 can actually grow when her bones are laced with Adamantium.going back to this point...
I read on Wikipedia that she isn't fully laced with adamantium and it is only located in the regions of her claws....
i take it her hands and feet won't grow so much so using the adamantium lacing in those locations was deemed suitable.
perhaps...
who knows....:dry:
Chris B
08-19-2007, 08:54 PM
I consider X-Men: Evolution to be one of my favorite cartoons. I was disappointed when it was cancelled because I think they could've continued it for one or two more seasons and have maintained the high quality that the show had acquired. I would really would want to see it continued in some way. Since the new cartoon seems to have a lot of the same creative team behind it, I surprised that it wont be a sequel series. If they could cut through the red tape, I would love to see Marvel produce a few DTV's.
Chris B
08-19-2007, 09:03 PM
I wish that after X-Men: Evo ended they had made a Spider-Man evolution type of show. In wake of the first or second movie, and then the new FF toon could have been the same type.
It would be nice to have a Marvel Animated Universe with proper co-existance and continuuity to it.
I recall hearing a similar idea proposed by other people about a Evo Marvel Animated Universe. I agree that it would've bee cool if they had done that.
In regards to a similar topic, I always liked the idea of having an Avengers spin-off, where the team is created by the government. Quicksilver and the Scarlet Witch had already been established, unthaw Captain Amerca, and bring in Iron Man and 2-3 other characters.
TKing
08-20-2007, 06:56 AM
I'm loving that Emma Frost concept. :D
Canemacar
08-20-2007, 07:20 AM
I really liked how Gambit did in the Evo series despite getting little screentime(and the Cajun spice episode, but it was only made when the creators knew they were getting canceled so it doesn't count). He had a cool looking costume, good-lines, a neat modernization of the Guilds, and making him an elite merc for the badguys was a stroke of genius IMO.
Kmack
08-20-2007, 10:05 PM
I'm loving that Emma Frost concept. :D
::nods:: She has killer legs. The Psylocke one isn't showing enough skin.
TKing
08-21-2007, 05:11 AM
I'm not a fan of her complexion though. Tanned is the way to go. :up:
Havok83
08-21-2007, 06:34 AM
what do you mean by 'kept on making'
frost looks like she should be older than the other students but that psylocke looks very old indeed...
Would they have just skipped to the timeline the professor saw in his visions from apocalypse or would they have continued in the normal timeline.
if it is the latter, than psylocked looks out of place, i prefer the younger look mystique was using and i'm not too sure such a revealing costume would be appropriated for a youngster....
besides, the good thing about the x-men is the fact that they look like a team, especially in evolution. Psylocke doesn't look like she fits into that team look with that outfit.they could have been teachers like Storm, Beast and Wolverine. Or they could have been allies like Angel
union_jak
08-22-2007, 07:17 AM
I miss it too. They ended it just as it became to form a style similar to TAS. I could have really seen the TAS stories working from the new Evolution season onwards, but it won't happen now.
November Rain
08-22-2007, 08:06 AM
they could have been teachers like Storm, Beast and Wolverine. Or they could have been allies like Angel
psylocke and emma are far too interesting to have as adults...
alright, i could give you emma being like an older woman that cyclops is tempted by but i really don't see any reason to have an older psylocke...
unless that is she starts off as an old brit and then due to some unforseen circumstances ends up in the body of a teenage ninja in training. The stress of being inside a child's body could actually bring up some interesting storylines....
Green Goblin 1964
08-22-2007, 11:38 PM
Wow, I was watching some X-Men Evolution on www.tv-links.co.uk and I was really impressed and I LOVE the show. Definitely one of the better/god toons out there at the time...
I didn't watch the show when it originally aired,not one episode, but now I regret it since I'm enjoying it SOOOO much and I'm going to watch more now! :yay: I really liked the Season 2's finale ALOT! AWESOME IMO.
Season 3 and 4 were orgasmic.
TKing
08-23-2007, 01:14 PM
The season finales were amazing. :up:
union_jak
08-23-2007, 02:50 PM
I really enjoyed seeing them all work in teams against the Horsemen.
Telekinetic
08-24-2007, 11:52 AM
i liked the gauntlet arc where they all compete against each other.
Green Goblin 1964
08-24-2007, 11:57 AM
I just finished watching Season 3 and DAMN! It was A-MA-ZING! Great season!
Especially the finale was INCREDIBLE! I wish they had these kindof shows on today :csad:
Telekinetic
08-24-2007, 11:58 AM
yeah nothing rite now can compare to this.
unless you watch avatar, which is really good.
Green Goblin 1964
08-24-2007, 08:58 PM
yeah nothing rite now can compare to this.
unless you watch avatar, which is really good.Nah, I don't watch Avatar all that much...not my kind of show...
TKing
08-25-2007, 06:48 AM
I just finished watching Season 3 and DAMN! It was A-MA-ZING! Great season!
Especially the finale was INCREDIBLE! I wish they had these kindof shows on today :csad:
Season 3 is probably my favourite of the four. I love the episode Blind Alley, the introduction of X-23 and a fantastic double-episode finale. :up:
alfmartinez
09-15-2007, 01:32 AM
it lacks cable, bishop..
but
Apocalypse's quotes are the best ones
"Since when has mankind ever know what it needs..."
Abaddon
09-15-2007, 01:34 AM
Apocalypse had like 3 lines in the whole series.
I don't know if anything Apocalypse says in Evolution can beat his over-the-top, nonsensical lines from The Animated Series.
"I know more of this world than you have ever dreamed. That is why I must destroy it!"
What does that even mean???
TKing
09-15-2007, 07:19 AM
Evolution had far better writing than TAS, I think.
Abaddon
09-15-2007, 03:27 PM
I disagree.
TKing
09-15-2007, 03:29 PM
I thought it was more heartfelt. The Animated Series had great moments, too. But sometimes I just felt it was action, action, action. :(
Abaddon
09-15-2007, 03:30 PM
True, but they always played that lame sappy music in the background during the heart felt scenes.:o
TKing
09-15-2007, 03:37 PM
I don't remember it. Either way it beats the crapfest that was Jean using her powers in TAS. :p
Abaddon
09-15-2007, 03:38 PM
"can't...lift...pencil....gaaaaaaahhhhhhh SCOTT!!!!!!!!!!!!!!" *faints*
TKing
09-15-2007, 03:41 PM
I'm still looking forward to this new series. Even if the rest of the X-Men are just glorified cameos. :o
TKing
09-15-2007, 03:42 PM
Oh, and Johnny Depp. :heart:
Coldqueen
09-21-2007, 04:51 AM
What does Johnny Depp have to do with anything?
Abaddon
09-21-2007, 04:06 PM
He was referring to the Edward Scissorhands avatar I was using.
Ratcrawler
09-22-2007, 10:40 PM
A bit of a weird observation but...does anybody else think Berzerker woulda made an awesome Havok?
http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v739/TheivingDeath/X-MEN/Evolution/Berzerker/Berzerker09.gif
http://i42.photobucket.com/albums/e334/zkp/X-Men/havok.jpg
His weird marijuana mohawk coulda replace that even weirder crest.
The idea first crossed my mind in the X-23 episode when Cyke & 'Zerk were the last two mutants conscious at the institute and I thought, "Damn, they actually have some brotherly chemistry there." Short though it was, there's a passing resemblence between the two. Iceman may have been the most popular of the new recruits but Berzerker seemed to be the unofficial leader. Plus his voice actor was the best cast. Not the INCREDIBLY effeninate surfer twerp we got instead.
http://i69.photobucket.com/albums/i64/flipping_flying_monkey/x-men/xme112_00.jpg
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