Random Comic Stuff

[DBM]

I thought I’d make a thread for random comic stuff. Comic related stuff that I didn’t think warranted it’s own thread.


Like Wednesdays.

I love Wednesdays.

Most days I take a lunch break at around 1pm because I like to avoid the traffic and I prefer a late lunch.

But not on Wednesday. I always go to lunch at 11am on Wednesday. Hell, I’d go earlier but the comic shop doesn’t open until 11. I’ll be leaving within a few minutes.

It’s such a fun day to go to the comic store and see all the new issues spread out on the racks, to discover those ones I hadn’t been expecting, to talk with all the other fans who are just as excited to be there as me.

I’m such a geek.

Off to the comic store.

[Gambit8370]

I'll race ya...

[Jewel]

Replace the word Wednesday, with the word Thursday for me, and you're on the money.

[iloveclones]

Everyone that knows me, knows that Wednesdays are Comic Book Day. For me they should just rename the day.


Since this is random stuff..... Did you have a place that you went to read your new acquisitions. When I was a kid, and would ride my bike to the drug store (before comic shops...right off the spinning rack), I had a little clearing in the woods where I would indulge in DD, Xmen, Spidey, Avengers, and usually a pretty good sugar high. Sometimes the 1 minute that it took to ride my bike there was too long!!!

[DBM]

I'll race ya...

Already got mine. And I read AXM 5, Avengers 502, and UFF 11. I'll read the rest when I get home tonight.

Since this is random stuff..... Did you have a place that you went to read your new acquisitions. When I was a kid, and would ride my bike to the drug store (before comic shops...right off the spinning rack), I had a little clearing in the woods where I would indulge in DD, Xmen, Spidey, Avengers, and usually a pretty good sugar high. Sometimes the 1 minute that it took to ride my bike there was too long!!!

Nowadays I usually just read them while sitting on my couch. But when I was a kid, I used to sit in this attic area of our house. It was carpeted and finished in but we just used it for storage. I found a box of 60's and 70's Marvel comics up there when I was 8 or 9 that had belonged to my uncle. That was how I discovered comics. I moved everything around up there and made myself a little reading area and every time I bought comics (or actually my parents bought me comics) I'd go up there to read them.

[Doc Destruction]

Everyone that knows me, knows that Wednesdays are Comic Book Day. For me they should just rename the day.

Haha, I call it Comic Book Day here at work...in fact, I yell it to my co-workers as I leave for lunch to head out to the store. Yep, EVERY week! :xmen:

[iloveclones]

By the way, my Fortress of Comics Solitude today is usually a coffee shop, or somewhere I can sit and drink some coffee with some old friends ( Pete, Scott, Steve, Hank,Matt, etc., etc.)

[Gambit8370]

Already got mine. And I read AXM 5, Avengers 502, and UFF 11. I'll read the rest when I get home tonight.


I was being facetious.

Really though, although we goof on each other I consider many of you SHH guys and gals as my friends (except for maybe twenty or thirty of you who absolutely HATE me, but hey).

It reminds me of when I was a kid. I had a (small) group of comic book geek friends. We would bike over to the comic store and the drug store to get our comics together. Then we'd read them and talk about them.

I know it sounds queer, but trust me it wasn't.

Anyways, all that fell apart when we discovered girls.

I'm glad I've got a place to go to bull**** about comics.

Thanks SHH!

[Gambit8370]

BTW I read maybe 2 or 3 of the ones I can't wait to read in the truck, and then the rest after dinner at home.

When I was a kid (damn I feel old every time I say that), I would read them on the front porch when I got home.

[DBM]

I was being facetious.



You're just saying that now because I beat ya.

LLLLLOOOOOOSSSSEEEERRRR!!!!

[Gambit8370]

You're just saying that now because I beat ya.

LLLLLOOOOOOSSSSEEEERRRR!!!!

I gave you AN HOUR HEAD START (which you would actually NEED were we truly racing :D).

I go at 12.

[iloveclones]

It reminds me of when I was a kid. I had a (small) group of comic book geek friends. We would bike over to the comic store and the drug store to get our comics together. Then we'd read them and talk about them.


Did you all buy different ones and swap? I would've loved that when I was a kid.

[DBM]

I gave you AN HOUR HEAD START (which you would actually NEED were we truly racing :D).

I go at 12.


Bah. I could have got there faster. The comics store is literally a 2 minute drive from my office.

I AM THE WINNER.

[Gambit8370]

Bah. I could have got there faster. The comics store is literally a 2 minute drive from my office.

I AM THE WINNER.

Okay, next week, we race.

Then we we come back to the boards, I'll laugh my ****s off when you tell everyone how you got a speeding ticket on the way to the comic store.

:D

[Gambit8370]

Did you all buy different ones and swap? I would've loved that when I was a kid.

Sometimes we traded.

One of the kids was actually female.

Yeah...

Circa 1977 a female read comic books.

I wish I would have stayed in contact with her.

She had an awesome collection.

[Elijya]

and lo, elijya did join in the conversation, and he did say...

I get to read the advance copies of books that come out a week before they hit the stands. Sucks to be you guys! :P

[newnoiseimage]

i wont get my books til october, one of the few drawbacks of pre-ordering.

and gambit, am i in that group?
hehehehe

[DBM]

and lo, elijya did join in the conversation, and he did say...

I get to read the advance copies of books that come out a week before they hit the stands. Sucks to be you guys! :P

That's nothing special. :p

Everyone at my local store gets to do that if they want. The owner puts them on a stand on the counter and you can stand there and read them if you want. I don't because I like to wait until they are actually released.

Okay, next week, we race.

Then we we come back to the boards, I'll laugh my ****s off when you tell everyone how you got a speeding ticket on the way to the comic store.

:D

You're on. :D

[iloveclones]

I wish I would have stayed in contact with her.

She had an awesome collection.


Did you mean that to be that funny??

[Gambit8370]

and gambit, am i in that group?
hehehehe

Hell.

Who knows?

You could secretly be the president of the I-Hate-Gambit8370 club and I wouldn't even know it.

[DBM]

Did you mean that to be that funny??

He must be serious because I have yet to see Gambit8370 say anything funny.

[Gambit8370]

Did you mean that to be that funny??

No I was serious.

She got me into some great comics back then that I would have never known about until years later.

[Gambit8370]

He must be serious because I have yet to see Gambit8370 say anything funny.

Vice President.

[newnoiseimage]

Hell.

Who knows?

You could secretly be the president of the I-Hate-Gambit8370 club and I wouldn't even know it.

Alright who let the secret out?!?!?!!?

anyway yeah, i wish that i could get them when they come out, i just save so much by pre-ordering and i ensure i get everything i want. i actually started waiving free shipping so i can get bi-monthly shipping. that way i am least somewhat current.

[iloveclones]

Hell.

Who knows?

You could secretly be the president of the I-Hate-Gambit8370 club and I wouldn't even know it.

I hope you don't really think that. Disagree does not = hate. :(

[iloveclones]

Besides, I'm only the treasurer.

[Gambit8370]

I hope you don't really think that. Disagree does not = hate. :(
Gee. Thanks. That's so nice of you to say...
Besides, I'm only the treasurer.
:(

I'm leaving now.

[DBM]

Gee. Thanks. That's so nice of you to say...

:(

I'm leaving now.

If you're into self-loathing you could join. We currently need a Recording Secretary.

[newnoiseimage]

well now that the secrets out, i might as well put my title in my sig, DBM and Clones, you should do so as well.

[iloveclones]

OK, I'm game. Sorry for completely derailing your thread DBM. I was kind of enjoying it.

[Gambit8370]

:mad:

[DBM]

well now that the secrets out, i might as well put my title in my sig, DBM and Clones, you should do so as well.

Done and done.

OK, I'm game. Sorry for completely derailing your thread DBM. I was kind of enjoying it.

No prob. We'll bring it back around eventually.

:mad:

:p

[DBM]

So I'm thinking today, always a dangerous thing, and I've decided I don't mind a lack of continuity that much. Hear me out here.

I think what I dislike is when history is ignored not continuity.

For example, lets look at the current She-Hulk series. The stories in it are obviously not continuous to the things going on in Avengers but they don’t ignore her previous history at all. She is the same character that has developed over the years.

But if we look at Avengers as it’s going on now, it would appear that the history of characters is being ignored. For example, Hank Pym recently has been still categorized as a “wife-beater” repeatedly in the past few months even though it has been firmly established that he and his colleagues have forgiven him and moved on.

Continuity is not being ignored because the Avengers and Avengers-related titles are continuous right now but history is being ignored.

So it's not continuity being ignored that upsets me, it's history being ignored.

[iloveclones]

Well, I think you're gonna get flamed for this one, DBM, but I can put up a bit of a firewall.

I like continuity, and I think it's what made Marvel so friggin cool when I was a kid, but I don't think that they should completely shackle themselves to it. I want to read good stories. And if some writer is stopping himself from writing it because villain X said Y in issue Z, well so be it. Write the story and move on. That doesn't mean that evreything is fair game. It's just like everything else in life: cost vs. benefit.

[Gambit8370]

I don't care anymore.

[DBM]

Well, I think you're gonna get flamed for this one, DBM, but I can put up a bit of a firewall.

I like continuity, and I think it's what made Marvel so friggin cool when I was a kid, but I don't think that they should completely shackle themselves to it. I want to read good stories. And if some writer is stopping himself from writing it because villain X said Y in issue Z, well so be it. Write the story and move on. That doesn't mean that evreything is fair game. It's just like everything else in life: cost vs. benefit.

Hopefully there won't be any flaming.

I guess I should have said that I also like continuity. But I can deal with continuity problems much easier than I can deal with ignorance of the history. I'll use She-Hulk as an example again. Obviously the She-Hulk series and the Avengers series are not taking place at the same time. Therefore they would seem to not be continuous. But I think that it can be reasoned that the She-Hulk series is taking place at some time before or after the current Avengers storyline. The continuity can be established at a later date to connect the two.

I start having problems when the history, meaning things that have been established as being in the past, are ignored thus causing problems in the present.

[DBM]

I don't care anymore.

Quitter. :p

[Gambit8370]

Quitter. :p
Whatever.

[DBM]

Whatever.

C'mon. Of all people, I know you have an opinion on this subject.

[Gambit8370]

C'mon. Of all people, I know you have an opinion on this subject.
No one who actually writes comics nowadays seems to give a damn.

Why should I?

[DBM]

No one who actually writes comics nowadays seems to give a damn.

Why should I?

Because you're better than them.

[Darthphere]

Two weeks ago I went to a different store to get a copy of Ex Machina #3 since my store had run out. I absolutley hate this store and I realized once again why. I go up to the guy and ask him if he has a copy. First off he yells to another employee across the room and asks her. Its not a big thing but I dont really want my selctions to be announced to the whole store. Then hes like no we ran out we dont have any copies left. Im like damn this other store ran out as well. And then this is what he says," Well yeah our members come first over walk-ins" This pissed me off, it made me feel like I was a insect to them. It was the way he said it to. All arrogant and snobbish. I just have to vent on this topic.

[iloveclones]

Two weeks ago I went to a different store to get a copy of Ex Machina #3 since my store had run out. I absolutley hate this store and I realized once again why. I go up to the guy and ask him if he has a copy. First off he yells to another employee across the room and asks her. Its not a big thing but I dont really want my selctions to be announced to the whole store. Then hes like no we ran out we dont have any copies left. Im like damn this other store ran out as well. And then this is what he says," Well yeah our members come first over walk-ins" This pissed me off, it made me feel like I was a insect to them. It was the way he said it to. All arrogant and snobbish. I just have to vent on this topic.

It always amazes me when businesses (whatever they are) feel that they can disregard their customers. Here was a perfect opportunity for this guy to try and sign you up as one of THEIR regulars, and he blew it. Or he could have said, "Leave your name and number. If we get any in, we'll give you a call. Oh by the way, if you wanna sign up on our pull list...." I hate to say this, especially since mine is run by great guys, but I feel like a great number of comic shops are run with this same type of arrogance and exclusivity. It's very off-putting (and they wonder why they have trouble attracting new fans)

[Unthinkable]

and lo, elijya did join in the conversation, and he did say...

I get to read the advance copies of books that come out a week before they hit the stands. Sucks to be you guys! :P

As do I...

Has anyone almost gotten into a fistfight about comics?

[newnoiseimage]

nope, thats too much. i have had to defend the validity of them though.

and i dislike most stores myself. some are cool and you get too look around, but others have games going on in them, and you are more a nuisance (to the players, not the owner) than anything. annoying.

[DBM]

Know what I love?

The smell of old comics.

I bought some 1970's issues this weekend at my local store because all back issues where 15% off. When I got home and opened the bags, I got a big whiff of that old paper smell. Kinda musty, kinda sweet.

I love that smell.

[iloveclones]

OK, here's one for you:

Did any of you stop reading for a significant amount of time and come back and why to both?

I stopped completely for a year or so not long after the clone saga ended. This wasn't in protest or anything ( I liked the clone saga, up until the ending). It just seemed like nothing interesting was going on anywhere. (Irony #1 since most people left during and because of the clone saga)

I came back because I heard Byrne was gonna revamp Spidey (Irony #2 considering how that turned out. :eek: ) The guy at my comic shop likes to point out to me when I have my pile for the week, that my first words to him were, "No, just Amazing. I don't want to get totally sucked in again....." Ah sweet irony...

[Unthinkable]

Know what I love?

The smell of old comics.

I bought some 1970's issues this weekend at my local store because all back issues where 15% off. When I got home and opened the bags, I got a big whiff of that old paper smell. Kinda musty, kinda sweet.

I love that smell.

:up:

[Elijya]

OK, here's one for you:

Did any of you stop reading for a significant amount of time and come back and why to both?



nope, been consistently reading since the fourth grade. Although, I did read all the x titles for many a year until when claremont came back, and the books got so bad I dropped them all, but I was reading plenty of other books

[newnoiseimage]

OK, here's one for you:

Did any of you stop reading for a significant amount of time and come back and why to both?


i stopped for about 8 or so years. quit after knightfall and started up again this year. quit because it cost alot and i lost a little interest, mainly the cash aspect. started again because there were some good stories, and i never stopped liking the characters or the movies.

[DBM]

OK, here's one for you:

Did any of you stop reading for a significant amount of time and come back and why to both?

I stopped completely for a year or so not long after the clone saga ended. This wasn't in protest or anything ( I liked the clone saga, up until the ending). It just seemed like nothing interesting was going on anywhere. (Irony #1 since most people left during and because of the clone saga)

I came back because I heard Byrne was gonna revamp Spidey (Irony #2 considering how that turned out. :eek: ) The guy at my comic shop likes to point out to me when I have my pile for the week, that my first words to him were, "No, just Amazing. I don't want to get totally sucked in again....." Ah sweet irony...

I pretty much quit while I was in undergrad. I just didn't have any money so I couldn't buy comics. I read an issue here and there but not that many.

[Gambit8370]

OK, here's one for you:

Did any of you stop reading for a significant amount of time and come back and why to both?

I quit for about 2 years back in the mid-to-late 80's.

To give you a perspective of time, my last issue of Uncanny was 201 and I didn't pick up another issue until 224.

I was 16 or 17 and discovered that the money I was spending on comics could be better spend getting some wheels and picking up chicks.

Then when I got a better job and could afford it again, I started up again spending more and more as each week passed.

The painful part was going back and picking up the two years of comics that I had missed.

And I haven't missed a week since.

[DBM]

This probably belongs elsewhere but since this is my Random Comic Stuff thread I'll stick it here anyway.

What was your favorite comic line that is now defunct?

Like Valiant, Defiant, Malibu, Charleston, Topps, Broadway, etc., and the newest to join the defunct list, Crossgen.

I was a huge Malibu fan, especially the Ultraverse. In fact I just bought a couple hundred Malibu comics off ebay last week. I'm working on having every Malibu comic made, which is not turning out to be that hard considering I appear to be the only person in the world who wants Malibu Comics

I loved Malibu because it was superheroes (which I love) that were typically well written, there was consistent continuity, and I got in from the ground floor. Malibu was a great company with great stories being put out as Marvel and DC were running themselves into the ground in the early 90s. Unfortunately Marvel bought them up and killed it off. :(

I also really enjoyed some of the Defiant stuff, specifically Dark Dominion.

How about you?

[Elijya]

I had an issue of Dinosaur's for Hire confiscated when I was in 4th grade :D

that teacher was a ***** :mad:

[Gambit8370]

This probably belongs elsewhere but since this is my Random Comic Stuff thread I'll stick it here anyway.

What was your favorite comic line that is now defunct?

Okay, this is going WAY back.

I'm talking early 80's, so some of you may not have even been BORN yet. (well okay, if you were alive you were probably reading Smurfs and Strawberry Shortcake comics).

But the comic book company I miss the most was 'Capital Comics' originally, which shortly became 'First Comics'.

The three titles that they published that I distinctly remember enjoying were 'Whisper', 'Badger', and 'Nexus'. :cool:

[DBM]

Okay, this is going WAY back.

I'm talking early 80's, so some of you may not have even been BORN yet. (well okay, if you were alive you were probably reading Smurfs and Strawberry Shortcake comics).

But the comic book company I miss the most was 'Capital Comics' originally, which shortly became 'First Comics'.

The three titles that they published that I distinctly remember enjoying were 'Whisper', 'Badger', and 'Nexus'. :cool:

I've got a few issues of Nexus from here and there. I don't remember the others though.

[Elijya]

Okay, this is going WAY back.

I'm talking early 80's, so some of you may not have even been BORN yet. (well okay, if you were alive you were probably reading Smurfs and Strawberry Shortcake comics).

But the comic book company I miss the most was 'Capital Comics' originally, which shortly became 'First Comics'.

The three titles that they published that I distinctly remember enjoying were 'Whisper', 'Badger', and 'Nexus'. :cool:


the Badger RULES

[Gambit8370]

Of the 3 mentioned, I liked Whisper the most.

Female ninja.

Someone's answer to Elektra I suppose.

I also remember it as being very adult themed (i.e. questionably high levels of graphic violence and sexual references) for a comic book being read by a 13/14 year old.

[iloveclones]

What's the most that you ever demeaned yourself to get some $$$ for your fix? In college, I was donating plasma twice a week, and taking the check from the bank to the comic shop. (Actually, there was a pizza shop right across from the joint that would cash the check if you bought a slice of pizza.....timeless memories of light-headedness, marinara sauce, and comics.)

[Gambit8370]

I whore myself everyday to corporate America.

[Elijya]

What's the most that you ever demeaned yourself to get some $$$ for your fix? In college, I was donating plasma twice a week, and taking the check from the bank to the comic shop. (Actually, there was a pizza shop right across from the joint that would cash the check if you bought a slice of pizza.....timeless memories of light-headedness, marinara sauce, and comics.)


wow... that's pretty low

[Darthphere]

Why is it that when you tell someone you read comic books, they reactlike this. "You read comic books?!" I never understood that reaction.

P.S. This was their reaction to me reading Sin City at school.

[Dissonance]

An even greater (or, rather, stranger) reaction is someone finds out that you read comics and you're a GIRL.

[Elijya]

I enjoy correcting all the un-informed people, especially the ones who take the cartoons as canon :D

[newnoiseimage]

An even greater (or, rather, stranger) reaction is someone finds out that you read comics and you're a GIRL.
girls read comics?

[Dissonance]

I know.

I amaze me too.

[DBM]

So I go to the comic book store on my lunch break today, as I do every Wednesday, and I’m standing in line to check out behind a couple other people. The guy in the front of the line is talking to the comic store employee about some comics. Specifically he asked, “What do you think about what’s going on in Avengers?”

The comic store employee then answers, “I don’t read that.” To which the customer replies, “Oh, so what do you read?” The comic store employee replies, “I don’t read comic books at all. I just don’t enjoy them.”

My jaw dropped to the floor. I was astounded.

Now I’ve been going to this store long enough to recognize that the employee is the “Gaming Guy” (as I refer to him in my head). He’s the one that sets up the gaming tournaments and knows all about the different card games, figurines, dice, etc. So I can understand if comics aren’t his thing really.

But for ****s sake, WHY THE HELL WOULD HE TELL A CUSTOMER THAT HE DOESN’T ENJOY COMIC BOOKS?

It’s like a waiter saying, “I wouldn’t eat the food here” when a customer asks him to recommend something from the menu.


I’m mean fine, the guy doesn’t like comics, I can deal with that. Lots of people don’t. But you don’t tell customers that. You tell them something like, “I’m not really keeping up on stuff because we’ve been so busy. Maybe you should talk to Dave over there, he knows a lot.” Hell, he could have even lied and said “I like Superman and Batman mostly,” because everyone at least knows who those are.

I’m just ranting here because it annoyed the hell out of me. If I was his boss, I’d give him a good swift kick in the pants and then teach him a little something about salesmanship.

[newnoiseimage]

almost everyone i know looks at comics as juvenille so i get that same reaction (the you read comics?!?! reaction, not dbm's random story about a comic clerk) my close friends lay off because they finally understand that they arent for kids, mainly becuase i verbally assaulted them. but the stigma is still in full swing.

[Dissonance]

A conversation with one of my newer co-workers prompts this little story:

She and I were talking about money/paychecks/salaries/etc. when I passively mentioned that I spend a good portion of my paycheck on, as I jokingly referred to it, "my comic book habit." She asked me how much I spend per week on said habit, to which I replied "Oh, about $20. Depending on what comes out that week." That somehow led her to ask the question "What's so special about comics anyway? I mean, they're just lots of pictures and not really stories." Now, I possibly could have gotten a word or two in about that if this girl didn't always talk so damn fast. She just kept going on and on about something until the conversation took on a whole new topic, leaving me stewing in her question/statement.

What I think is that she was under the delusion that "all comics are for kids" and they can't really hold any true storytelling value that, say, a novel can. That kind of struck me because as a reader and (hopefully) someday writer of comics, I have read some really powerful and profound comics that have affected me more closely than most novels have.

[Elijya]

it's called ignorance, Dissonance. Besides, she probably just reads romance novels in her free time, I sincerely doubt she's got Hemingway tucked away in her purse

[newnoiseimage]

most comics are more believable than most soap-operas, and people can fly in comics.

[Dissonance]

it's called ignorance, Dissonance. Besides, she probably just reads romance novels in her free time, I sincerely doubt she's got Hemingway tucked away in her purse

No no no... She told me who her favorite author was (in great detail, might I add): Nicholas Sparks.

[Elijya]

you shoulda told her yours was NEil Gaimen

[Phoney Bone]

I enjoy correcting all the un-informed people, especially the ones who take the cartoons as canon :D
Yeah, I hate it when people try to challenge my comic book intellect. Telling me stupid ****, I just come back and explain the Flash legacy and grin my brilliant smile as the wallow in their pee, hiding in the corner.

[Elijya]

I had a guy tell me venom made a cameo in Spider-man 2? "where!?" I ask. "The dude Mary Jane was gonna marry, he brought venom back from the moon."


:groan:

[Dissonance]

you shoulda told her yours was NEil Gaimen

In hindsight, I should have. Then again... she probably would have cut in and started talking about how Nicholas Sparks is the greatest thing since the invention of the sandwich.

[Gambit8370]

In hindsight, I should have. Then again... she probably would have cut in and started talking about how Nicholas Sparks is the greatest thing since the invention of the sandwich.

Clarification: NO MAN is the greater than the invention of the sandwich. :cool:

[Elijya]

not even Dr. Bong?

[Dissonance]

What about the Red Ghost and his Indescribable Super-Apes? Surely THAT is a landmark of our time.

[Gambit8370]

How do you know Dr. Bong is a MAN?

[Elijya]

cause he had a wife, and same sex marriages are illegal

[Gambit8370]

cause he had a wife, and same sex marriages are illegal

Because we all know how SUPER-VILLAINS are so mindful about things like that...:rolleyes:

[Elijya]

his real name is lester

[Gambit8370]

his real name is lester

Oh yeah?

Well maybe Lester was his name BEFORE the operation...:rolleyes:

[Elijya]

you should write comics, you've got better ideas than bendis :p :D

[Gambit8370]

I can't tell if you're serious or kidding.

[newnoiseimage]

so i just pre-ordered for December, and i realized i spend 3 times more on marvel than on dc.

[Gambit8370]

so i just pre-ordered for December, and i realized i spend 3 times more on marvel than on dc.

Makes sense.

There's 3 main Marvel universes now:

1) 616
2) Marvel Age
3) Ultimate

[DBM]

Makes sense.

There's 3 main Marvel universes now:

1) 616
2) Marvel Age
3) Ultimate

Ya know what we need?



Ultimate New Universe.


Nuff said.

[TheCorpulent1]

Aw, Ultimate Starbrand would so ROCK! And don't even get me started on the possibilities of an Ultimate Super-Pro...

[DBM]

Aw, Ultimate Starbrand would so ROCK! And don't even get me started on the possibilities of an Ultimate Super-Pro...

Starbrand is so sweet. And an angsty, younger, different raced, version that cusses a lot and says "meatball" would be even sweeter.

Ultimate Super-Pro...


...oooohhhh...


...geekgasm. :eek:

[TheCorpulent1]

I bet Ultimate Super-Pro would look identical to Michael Vick. Gotta keep up that recognizability factor. :D

[newnoiseimage]

Makes sense.

There's 3 main Marvel universes now:

1) 616
2) Marvel Age
3) Ultimate

dont buy marvel age (as i am well above the intended age)

only buy ultimate secret, weapon, whatever the hell it is, and ultimats v2, so thats only 2 or 3.

[The Hero]

My comic book store has an entire arcade section in the back that I've never entered(or seen,for that matter) mainly because it contains a Dance Dance Revolution machine,and I have a fear of nerds dancing badly.Maybe one day I'll get the courage to go in and laugh my ass off at a DDR tournament.But until then,it is but a pipe dream.:(

Come to think of it,if I've never seen their arcade section,how do I know if it's realy there?:confused:

[newnoiseimage]

My comic book store has an entire arcade section in the back that I've never entered(or seen,for that matter) mainly because it contains a Dance Dance Revolution machine,and I have a fear of nerds dancing badly.Maybe one day I'll get the courage to go in and laugh my ass off at a DDR tournament.But until then,it is but a pipe dream.:(

Come to think of it,if I've never seen their arcade section,how do I know if it's realy there?:confused:
fear of nerds? you collect comics? do you see the irony?

[The Hero]

fear of nerds? you collect comics? do you see the irony?
Not of nerd,of nerds dancing badly.I'm a nerd,but at least all I do is an occasional Conan OBrien-style robot dance.:o

[newnoiseimage]

Not of nerd,of nerds dancing badly.I'm a nerd,but at least all I do is an occasional Conan OBrien-style robot dance.:o
nice, thanks for the clarification.

and for the record, i have ssen that game, it isnt dancing, it is stomping your feet in patterns while sweating profusely, slight difference.

put it this way picture one of the guys who play that game, going to a dance club, smoothly walking up to a girl, taking her out into the middle of the dance floor, and them blasting into his spastic foot stomping routine. not only will the terrified girl leave, but people in the crowd would probably tackle the guy thinking he is having a seizure from too much ecstasy.

[Darthphere]

So when the hell are we gonna get a SHIELD comic book? It seems like it could be popular with whats going on in the world and especially with the success of Secret War.

[DBM]

So when the hell are we gonna get a SHIELD comic book? It seems like it could be popular with whats going on in the world and especially with the success of Secret War.

Hell yeah.

NEVER YIELD
BACK SHIELD

[Darthphere]

Hell yeah.

NEVER YIELD
BACK SHIELD

We are the biggest SHIELD whores on this site arent we?

http://www.chez.com/theballbreaker/comics/05.jpg

[TheCorpulent1]

I kinda don't want a SHIELD comic. I like how they're portrayed as a ubiquitous, behind-the-scenes organization by appearing in the background of tons of different titles. Since... y'know... they are actually a ubiquitous, behind-the-scenes organization.

[Darthphere]

I kinda don't want a SHIELD comic. I like how they're portrayed as a ubiquitous, behind-the-scenes organization by appearing in the background of tons of different titles. Since... y'know... they are actually a ubiquitous, behind-the-scenes organization.


They can still be that but now we get to see how they work on the inside and how they react to certain situations and crisis.

P.S. How do you say the plural of crisis?

[TheCorpulent1]

"Crisisisisisisis." Give or take an "is."

It's "crises." :)

[Darthphere]

Ok but you spell it the same as crisis right, but pronounce it crises. :confused:

[DBM]

We are the biggest SHIELD whores on this site arent we?

http://www.chez.com/theballbreaker/comics/05.jpg


I think so. :)

[TheCorpulent1]

Ok but you spell it the same as crisis right, but pronounce it crises. :confused:
No, you spell it "crises" and pronounce it cry-seez.

[The Hero]

I think he's just screwing with your head,darth.:o

[DBM]

Came across this old article (http://www.silverbulletcomicbooks.com/buddy/98824655168524.htm) about how comic writers today are sissies. It's a fun read.

Here's part of it. Talking about writers in the Silver Age.
Back then, writers created stories under the direction of tough, gruff editors who smoked cigars and used bad words. I can just imagine working at DC in the 1960s. Legendary editor Julie Schwartz would call his writers in for a meeting...

"Okay, men, it`s fat month," Julie would say, and nobody would snicker at his girly-man name. "And fat month means all of our superheroes are fat. Busting at the seams fat. Flash will be too fat to run. Superman will be too fat to fly. You know what I`m getting at, men. Now go write."

"Aww, Julie, that`s ridiculous," someone would invariably moan. "Fat superheroes will seem silly to the reader, and..."

And Julie would toss him out the window of a skyscraper to his death. Just to make a point.

And everyone ran back to their typewriters and wrote stories about fat superheroes, and didn`t even complain that they were now short one writer. That was true grit.

[The Hero]

Came across this old article (http://www.silverbulletcomicbooks.com/buddy/98824655168524.htm) about how comic writers today are sissies. It's a fun read.

Here's part of it. Talking about writers in the Silver Age.
LMAO:D

[Elijya]

for some reason I can't load the Javascript from that page. anyone wanna post the rest of the article?

[The Hero]

for some reason I can't load the Javascript from that page. anyone wanna post the rest of the article?
Comic Writers Are Sissies

By Buddy Scalera
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Mark Waid is a sissy. Yeah, I said it. So is Garth Ennis, Brian Michael Bendis, Kurt Busiek, and all those other guys I used to admire as writers.

I mean, not for nuthin`, but those guys can`t WRITE. I mean, really. Big whoop, so they can jot down a story once a month and sit back to get big fat royalty checks. Like I should be impressed.

You know who the REAL comic book writers were? Guys like Gardener Fox, Robert Kanigher, and John Broome were writers. True grit, baby.

Pick up one of those old DC Archive Editions that reprint classic stories from the Golden and Silver Age. These books are a window into a time when editors made writers work for their scratch.

Back then, writers created stories under the direction of tough, gruff editors who smoked cigars and used bad words. I can just imagine working at DC in the 1960s. Legendary editor Julie Schwartz would call his writers in for a meeting...

[IMG2R]"Okay, men, it`s fat month," Julie would say, and nobody would snicker at his girly-man name. "And fat month means all of our superheroes are fat. Busting at the seams fat. Flash will be too fat to run. Superman will be too fat to fly. You know what I`m getting at, men. Now go write."

"Aww, Julie, that`s ridiculous," someone would invariably moan. "Fat superheroes will seem silly to the reader, and..."

And Julie would toss him out the window of a skyscraper to his death. Just to make a point.

And everyone ran back to their typewriters and wrote stories about fat superheroes, and didn`t even complain that they were now short one writer. That was true grit.

Later, when Julie was closing the lights and going home to his family, the men kept on typing. They typed hard and fast about fat superheroes and all the trouble it caused. And in the morning, when Julie returned, they were excited that Julie wanted super-smart gorillas in every issue. Because they were writers.

[IMG3R]They wrote vigorously about superheroes in space. Superheroes in the future. Superheroes in the Old West. Superheroes who get amnesia. Superheroes who have been shrunk down in their own apartments.

Today, we would call these events, and no writers would plummet to their death. I call them sissies. All of them.

Plus, back then, an artist would draw something because he liked it or it looked cool, and the artist would have to come up with a story line to match the pictures. One of my favorites is `Superman-Red and Superman-Blue`. Some artist or editor said, "Hey wouldn`t it be not-at-all-stupid-or-implausible to split Superman in half by COLOR?!?"

And the artist would say, "Yeah, that`s great! Let`s tell the writer to make up a story!"

[IMG4R]And the editor would say, "Nah, just draw it and we`ll figure out the story later." (NOTE: This historic technique was used many years later with stunning success on Youngblood.)

Do you think that Joe Kelly or Jeph Loeb would do a Superman issue if Mike Carlin told them "The cover is already drawn and Superman has to be a big fat guy this month"? Not likely. They have, whachamacallits... oh yeah, "ethics and artistic integrity". (Which I have found to be overrated.)

Do you think J. Michael Straczynskinopolous would write an issue of Amazing Spider-Man because Stuart Moore told him "He`s gotta be silent for the whole issue"? Don`t be ridiculous.

[IMG5R]Writers today are not real manly men, like they were back in the Silver Age. They`re not willing to take a bullet for their art form. Writers today say to have a good story, you need to open a vein and "bleed on the page".

In the Silver Age, writers really meant it.

[Elijya]

lol, I've met Buddy Scalera, and he's in his 40-'s, like most other comic writers these days :P

Plus, he wrote the extremely ****ty "funeral for a freak" arc in deadpool

[DBM]

Just read this good, and informative, article about variant covers over at Newsarama.

http://www.newsarama.com/pages/Rick_SheaVariants.htm

[DBM]

It's Comic Day, it's Comic Day, it's Comic Day, hey, hey, hey.

:D :D :D

[newnoiseimage]

is it? i should receive my september shipment on friday.

[Gambit8370]

Man, that would just make me nuts.

Comic Book Day is an essential part of a nutricious breakfast (or something like that)!!! :D:up:

[Elijya]

and it's FREE comicbook day for me. I got a $50 gift certificate to my store for my birthday

[newnoiseimage]

im too lazy to walk to the store, so it suits me fine, although i am switching two a bi-monthly shipment plan for november, the waiting is rough.

and elijya, you got way too much for your birthday.

[Elijya]

I have three older brothers and a sister, and an assload of aunts and uncles. Big family=lots of presents

[Gambit8370]

You're 22.

In most families that I know, the big present giving usually stops or at least slows down at 21.

Not judging, just saying.

Just be sure to appreciate those people who take good care of you by being there for them when they need your help.

[The Hero]

You're 22.

In most families that I know, the big present giving usually stops or at least slows down at 21.

Not judging, just saying.

Just be sure to appreciate those people who take good care of you by being there for them when they need your help.
.....so you can scam them out of more free stuff.:up:

[Elijya]

You're 22.

In most families that I know, the big present giving usually stops or at least slows down at 21.



well, geeze, I'm soooo sorry my family is off a year from your made up statistic :rolleyes:


(not trying to insult, but seriously, man, do the families you know honestly have a rule that says at 21, presents slow down?)

[Darthphere]

Off topic but would you rather get thoughtful, well thought out presents or just cash money fool?

[Dissonance]

For the meager sum of $150, I am now the proud owner of:

http://ksacomics.com/fant/1/48.gif

It's in REALLY good condition, too. I'm still in disbelief.

[newnoiseimage]

congrats, welcome to the club.

(I myself own 2 :) )

[TheCorpulent1]

lol, I've met Buddy Scalera, and he's in his 40-'s, like most other comic writers these days :P

Plus, he wrote the extremely ****ty "funeral for a freak" arc in deadpool
Didn't Frank Tieri write that? :confused:

[Gambit8370]

well, geeze, I'm soooo sorry my family is off a year from your made up statistic :rolleyes:


(not trying to insult, but seriously, man, do the families you know honestly have a rule that says at 21, presents slow down?)

It wasn't a "made up statistic". Seriously, in most families that I know, the big gift giving slows down after the 21st birthday. After that it's pretty much just limited to just the milestone birthdays (25, 30, 40, 50, etc.) when someone throws you a big surprise party.

But then again, no one that I know, other than you, has gotten something as cool as Amazing Fantasy #15, the first appearance of Spider-Man, as a birthday present.

So chances are pretty good that you may very well have the coolest family, and Dad, that I have ever even HEARD OF!!! :cool: :eek: :D:up: :eek: :cool:

[The Hero]

For the meager sum of $150, I am now the proud owner of:

http://ksacomics.com/fant/1/48.gif

It's in REALLY good condition, too. I'm still in disbelief.
Very nice find,even though Elijya either already has ten copies,or will soon be sending a fleet of solid gold Elijya-Bots to liberate it from your collection.:(

[Elijya]

solid gold elijya-bots? :confused:

my dear Hero, that's what I have YOU for. go fetch

:D

and actually, that's one that I don't own

[The Hero]

solid gold elijya-bots? :confused:

my dear Hero, that's what I have YOU for. go fetch

:D

and actually, that's one that I don't own
But last time I got caught by a fanboy and had to listen to a five-hour speech about how varient covers are "bound to be worth a ton one day".And then he cried.:(

[Dissonance]

Very nice find,even though Elijya either already has ten copies,or will soon be sending a fleet of solid gold Elijya-Bots to liberate it from your collection.:(

Believe you me, if it ever came to that, I'd fight DIRTY.

Never come between a girl and her comics.

[newnoiseimage]

its an awesome book, it just always felt its a shame they drew the wathcer with a butt face.

[Gambit8370]

Believe you me, if it ever came to that, I'd fight DIRTY.

Never come between a girl and her comics.

Lady, you're just asking for trouble talking to a bunch of geeked out comic nerds like that.

Just warnin' ya.

[Dissonance]

Oh damn. Sometimes I forget where I am.

Let me rephrase that...

If it ever came to that, I'd probably scream rape.

[newnoiseimage]

Oh damn. Sometimes I forget where I am.

Let me rephrase that...

If it ever came to that, I'd probably scream rape.

that'll still be closer than more than half these guys will ever get.

[Dissonance]

You don't see me arguing.

[DBM]

that'll still be closer than more than half these guys will ever get.

Ouch.

Harsh.

[Gambit8370]

So which half are the three of us in since we're the only ones brave enough to talk to the (gasp) female comic book fan?

[newnoiseimage]

well your married, so you are in the better half (or worse depending on perspective) im almost there with you (as in near marriage ), and i dont really know much about DBM, but being as he seems cool, ill give him the benefit of the doubt, althoug he does know a hell of a lot about comcis, which is usually a prerequisite for the lonely half.....
:hulk:

[Gambit8370]

In the past, I've heard that DBM claims to be quite the gigalo.





A telltale sign that he's never gotten any. :p

[DBM]

In the past, I've heard that DBM claims to be quite the gigalo.





A telltale sign that he's never gotten any. :p

I'm not a gigalo. I'm a ****. Gigalo's make the women pay.

Actually I'm in a more or less committed relationship right now, which is a new thing for me.

And she's not a stripper like the last one. Which makes my family happy, because it was always awkward at church when friends of the family asked Bailey what she did for a living.

[newnoiseimage]

its probably more hygenic for you as well.

[Gambit8370]

Reminds me...

I'm hosting a bachelor party.

Can I have your ex-girlfriend's phone number?

[DBM]

Reminds me...

I'm hosting a bachelor party.

Can I have your ex-girlfriend's phone number?

EDITED: Because apparently people care about some stripper they've never even met.

She moved to TN. I might know someone closer to your area though.

What town do you live in?

[inner monologue]Hopefully the fool will answer and my plan to destroy him shall be set forth. BWAHAHAHAHAHA[/inner monologue]

[newnoiseimage]

you know every horny pre-teen on the marvel boards just called that number, don't you.

:doom:

[Gambit8370]

Get that phone number off of there!!!

Are you goofy?

Poor girl.

I don't know what she did to you, but whatever it was she still doesn't deserve 3 A.M. crank calls from guys like Clown Shoes over here!!!

[DBM]

Get that phone number off of there!!!

Are you goofy?

Poor girl.

I don't know what she did to you, but whatever it was she still doesn't deserve 3 A.M. crank calls from guys like Clown Shoes over here!!!

Fine, I'll fix it.

[DBM]

Fine, I'll fix it.

Fixed.

Golly gee, Gambit8370, you must really have a heart in there underneath all that bitter Bendis-angst, to tell me to take it down.

[newnoiseimage]

Here is a number for you horny pre-teens...

212-867-5309

Her name Jenny, tell her you got her number on the wall.

[Gambit8370]

Fixed.

Golly gee, Gambit8370, you must really have a heart in there underneath all that bitter Bendis-angst, to tell me to take it down.

I can't believe you just said "Golly gee"...

Okay Opie, go get Goober and Barney and meet me down at the fishin' hole.

Don't forget to tell Aunt Bea that we'll be home in time for supper.

[DBM]

I can't believe you just said "Golly gee"...

Okay Opie, go get Goober and Barney and meet me down at the fishin' hole.

Don't forget to tell Aunt Bea that we'll be home in time for supper.


Well, technically, I didn't say "golly gee." I typed it. And I did grow up in Kentucky, so it's not like I've never said golly gee before.


BTW, Andy Griffith is the ****ing greatest. I've already pre-ordered the first season on DVD.

[newnoiseimage]

Well, technically, I didn't say "golly gee." I typed it. And I did grow up in Kentucky, so it's not like I've never said golly gee before.


BTW, Andy Griffith is the ****ing greatest. I've already pre-ordered the first season on DVD.

wow, i've never said golly gee in a non sarcastic manner.

[DBM]

wow, i've never said golly gee in a non sarcastic manner.

Well in my house growing up, if you said anything worse than "golly gee" as an expletive, my mother would slap you across the mouth.

So you learned to speak nicely, pretty quick.

[newnoiseimage]

o in the house i wasnt allowed to curse, but damn hell and stuff that like that werent really considered curses.

i guess new york city and kentucky are slightly different paths. :)

[Gambit8370]

I obviously was raised on classic TV sitcoms too.

It amazes me how often I'll reference them in the normal day-to-day.

Good memories, all of them. :D:up:

Too bad that they all belong to fictional tv characters...:rolleyes:

[DBM]

i guess new york city and kentucky are slightly different paths. :)

True.
:)

[newnoiseimage]

that may be why im a cynical *********
:doom: :doom: :doom: :doom:

[Gambit8370]

I was raised in a pretty strict household.

Then when Dad died, I became the man of the house and made my own new rules.

Cussing was now okay, smoking in the house was now okay, etc.

I was just an asshat back then.

Thankfully, I grew up.

Sorry Dad. You were right.

Old rules still apply today.

[Elijya]

I think we're a bit away from "random comic stuff" now.....

[newnoiseimage]

yeah, gambit broke the board.

[Gambit8370]

Sure blame Gambit.

Dinner burnt? Blame Gambit.

Car won't start? Blame Gambit.

L'il Newnoiseimage laying down on the job? Blame Gambit.

It's all my fault.

All of it.

[The Hero]

I hated Sincere Comics.It was way too small for the amount of comics they had,with a long vertical row of tables with box-after-box of back-issues on them between the counter and sales rack,with only about three-and-a-half feet beteen the table and the walls.Not to mention the annoying techno music that played around the clock.

And then,the magnificent Groundzero Comics opened,the mom-and-pop grocery store to Sincere's heartless conglomorate.Groundzero flourished,while Sincere went out of business.

And that's what Columbus Day means to me.:o

[newnoiseimage]

Sure blame Gambit.

Dinner burnt? Blame Gambit.

Car won't start? Blame Gambit.

L'il Newnoiseimage laying down on the job? Blame Gambit.

It's all my fault.

All of it.

that sounds familiar.....
hmm....

;)

[DBM]

I think we're a bit away from "random comic stuff" now.....

Well, we're all comic fans and we're pretty random sometimes, so I think it fits.

[The Hero]

Well, we're all comic fans and we're pretty random sometimes, so I think it fits.
So random that you had to kill the thread?:mad:

[DBM]

So random that you had to kill the thread?:mad:

I BROUGHT THIS THREAD INTO THE WORLD AND I CAN TAKE IT OUT IF I WANT!!!


It's not dead though.

I sat down this weekend and bagged and boarded all the comics that I've bought in the last couple of months. I bagged and boarded over 500 comics on Sunday.

That ****ing takes forever.

I hate ebay. It makes it so easy to buy tons of comics at a cheap price.

[Gambit8370]

So random that you had to kill the thread?:mad:
No no, I killed the thread.

Come on. Give credit where credit is due.

[newnoiseimage]

well i got the first appearance of x-51, my aquiring of obscure first apearances continues!

[The Hero]

I wish Renuad Man was still here."Gambit hates Bendis" jokes just aren't cutting it anymore.:(

[Gambit8370]

I wish Renuad Man was still here."Gambit hates Bendis" jokes just aren't cutting it anymore.:(
I'm sick of it too.

So what do you want to talk about?

[DBM]

I'm sick of it too.

So what do you want to talk about?

What's the most comics you've ever bought at one time?

I recently bought over 400 Malibu comics off of ebay as one single lot.

I think the most I've ever bought at one time, in a comic store is about 100.

[The Hero]

I'm sick of it too.

So what do you want to talk about?
So.....uh...........are there any current Marvel comics that you do like?

[newnoiseimage]

astonishing was funny this month.

still going through my pre-order.

oh and when did hawkeye gain flight?

identity disc is the comic version of usual suspects.

and hawkeyes not like this is remeniscent of the matrix.

[Gambit8370]

I bought 126 comics at the Chicago Wizard World this past summer.

That was a record for me.

[newnoiseimage]

I bought 126 comics at the Chicago Wizard World this past summer.

That was a record for me.

never been to a con and dont know if i will. can you get good deals on the keys? the SA holy grails? otehrwise its a wash for me.

[Gambit8370]

So.....uh...........are there any current Marvel comics that you do like?

Depends on the definition of 'like'.

In certain respects I guess you could say that I 'like' them all.

That is what most people don't get about my posts.

If I didn't 'like' a title, I'd just shut up and not ever make a comment one eay or another.

Or as people often suggest to me, 'vote with your wallet'. I do. I do not buy any comics that I don't 'like'. That would make me a fool. You know what they say about a fool and his money, right?

But what Marvel Comics do I really 'like'?

What like my top three?

Okay.

Astonishing. I haven't seen the X-Men written so well since, damn, well since, Claremont/Byrne. Whedon's got the character interactions pretty much down, although the Cyclops/White Queen thing just bugs me. But that's a leftover from Morrison that we have to deal with until someone writes it out of there.

FF. Waid has breathed life back into Marvel's First Family that was missing since before the Defalco run.

DD. Bendis greatness on DD comes in spurts. Good arc. Bad arc. Exciting arc. Fill-in arc. The great stuff every fourth month is worth putting up with the three months of mediocre stuff.

Normally, I enjoy Hulk, Iron Man, Cap, Thor, & Avengers. I haven't missed issues of any of those in years. Their current series are pretty much all being killed off/cancelled/&relaunched and honestly I'm considering just ending my love for those characters right there. That my friend is exactly why I've been up in arms lately. Not because I hate something as much as because things that I 'like' are being discarded like yesterday's trash.

[Gambit8370]

never been to a con and dont know if i will. can you get good deals on the keys? the SA holy grails? otehrwise its a wash for me.
There are two types of vendors that sell at the cons:

The ones who know exactly what they have and how much it's "worth"...

And the ones who don't know and just want to get rid of them.

This differences is usually obvious by the price tags on their comics.

I'm a bargain shopper.

I'm looking for the low-priced deals on the keys and the holy grails.

I buy some crap too, mainly because I'm a completist. But I rarely pay cover price.

[The Hero]

Depends on the definition of 'like'.

In certain respects I guess you could say that I 'like' them all.

That is what most people don't get about my posts.

If I didn't 'like' a title, I'd just shut up and not ever make a comment one eay or another.

Or as people often suggest to me, 'vote with your wallet'. I do. I do not buy any comics that I don't 'like'. That would make me a fool. You know what they say about a fool and his money, right?

But what Marvel Comics do I really 'like'?

What like my top three?

Okay.

Astonishing. I haven't seen the X-Men written so well since, damn, well since, Claremont/Byrne. Whedon's got the character interactions pretty much down, although the Cyclops/White Queen thing just bugs me. But that's a leftover from Morrison that we have to deal with until someone writes it out of there.

FF. Waid has breathed life back into Marvel's First Family that was missing since before the Defalco run.

DD. Bendis greatness on DD comes in spurts. Good arc. Bad arc. Exciting arc. Fill-in arc. The great stuff every fourth month is worth putting up with the three months of mediocre stuff.

Normally, I enjoy Hulk, Iron Man, Cap, Thor, & Avengers. I haven't missed issues of any of those in years. Their current series are pretty much all being killed off/cancelled/&relaunched and honestly I'm considering just ending my love for those characters right there. That my friend is exactly why I've been up in arms lately. Not because I hate something as much as because things that I 'like' are being discarded like yesterday's trash.
Bubaker's Cap looks good.:o

[DBM]

Good/Entertaining Article about Comic Writers.

http://www.ninthart.com/display.php?article=932

Excerpt:
Yeah, as jobs go, writing comics is a pretty easy gig. There are pressures, there are obstacles, and you're still answerable to your editors, your publishers, your audience and your bank manager, but it's a job you choose, not one that you take just to pay the bills, and it's a job where you create, not one where you get fired for daydreaming in the office.

OK, so it's not quite as good as being eleventh in line to the throne, or the heir to an international hotel chain; you still have to work for a living, and even if you work really hard, you're unlikely to ever make your fortune. But anyone who does write comics for a living has at least one good reason to be cheerful.

Which begs the question; why does such a good job produce so many prissy, pissy, egotistical prima donnas?

If you read comics long enough, you'll see the transformation take place. People who start out grateful for a break and eager to prove themselves slowly evolve into stompy, stroppy, self-important stage school brats. And if you really pay attention, you'll see the signs. The seven habits of defective comic writers. And that includes the writer/artists. And a lot of the artists, too. And the inkers. And most of the editors, now I come to think of it.

[newnoiseimage]

being a subscriber to Entertainment Weekly i occasionally read it (the sub is for someone else) over the last 2-3 months i have seen 3 comics featured in their "whats hot" list. Identity Crisis, Ex-Machina, and most recently Loki.
not bad for our hobby.

[The Hero]

Good/Entertaining Article about Comic Writers.

http://www.ninthart.com/display.php?article=932

Excerpt:
My neck hurts from agreeing too much.:(

No,it doesn't.But still.:o

[DBM]

My neck hurts from agreeing too much.:(

No,it doesn't.But still.:o

I know what you mean.

When you put couple it with this article (http://www.silverbulletcomicbooks.com/buddy/98824655168524.htm), it gives a very different perspective on comic writers.

Gambit8370, did you read these? They're right up your alley.

[Gambit8370]

I know what you mean.

When you put couple it with this article (http://www.silverbulletcomicbooks.com/buddy/98824655168524.htm), it gives a very different perspective on comic writers.

Gambit8370, did you read these? They're right up your alley.

No not yet, checking it out now...

[Gambit8370]

Those were pretty good. I think I found a new sig.

The thing I don't get is why in God's name do I still want to become a comic book writer someday?

Maybe I must become that which I hate in order to drive out the demons in my own soul.

[DBM]

Those were pretty good. I think I found a new sig.

The thing I don't get is why in God's name do I still want to become a comic book writer someday?

Maybe I must become that which I hate in order to drive out the demons in my own soul.

Maybe you just enjoy punishing yourself. I hear flagellation works well too.

[Gambit8370]

I hear flagellation works well too.
Really. Where did you hear THAT from?

[DBM]

Really. Where did you hear THAT from?

Your wife.

OH. ZING.

:p

[newnoiseimage]

she shouldnt talk with her mouth full.












too far? ;)

[Gambit8370]

Your wife.

OH. ZING.

:p
GUFFAW!

:p Good one...

:wolverine rackin-frackin-rick-rackin-ruckin-fruckin

[DBM]

she shouldnt talk with her mouth full.



too far? ;)


Probably just a little. :)

[DBM]

GUFFAW!

:p Good one...

:wolverine rackin-frackin-rick-rackin-ruckin-fruckin


Thanks.

[Gambit8370]

she shouldnt talk with her mouth full.












too far? ;)
He must've wrestled the chocolate truffles from her death-grip...

Kidding honey if you ever read this...

Not that you'd ever condescend to ever take an interest in my comic book interests or my message board antics.

[DBM]

He must've wrestled the chocolate truffles from her death-grip...

Kidding honey if you ever read this...

Not that you'd ever condescend to ever take an interest in my comic book interests or my message board antics.

I can understand that though.

Chocolate truffles are frikkin good.

Oh, and Mrs. Gambit8370, we didn't really mean you're a ****.

Just in case she ever reads this, I've got your back Gambit8370.

[The Hero]

Click it 'cuz I did (http://www.silverbulletcomicbooks.com/buddy/106167675292744.htm)

[Elijya]

Click it 'cuz I did (http://www.silverbulletcomicbooks.com/buddy/106167675292744.htm)


I can never read articles from that site, please post it. Although, I can see the title, and I like where it's going

[DBM]

Click it 'cuz I did (http://www.silverbulletcomicbooks.com/buddy/106167675292744.htm)

That's a good one. I read it before.

Elijya, are you looking at that site with something other than IE? I find that I can't read it using Firefox sometimes. Try IE and see if you can.

Just in case you can't I'll post it anyway.

Forget The Kids... Market Comics To Adults

By Buddy Scalera
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Forget the kids. Seriously, it’s a lost cause. Forget ‘em.

If we continue marketing comics to kids, we’re surely doomed.

First, a very quick background. Hang in there, this has a point…

Most creators, publishers, retailers, and other industry professionals grew up reading comic books. We remember buying comics on the newsstand, and then later at specialty shops. It was a great time because comics – compared to other forms of entertainment – were cheap.

And everyone at that time knew…comics were for kids. Period.

As the 80s rolled in, a new wave of creators helped comics mature. Vertigo and the independent comics offered some sophisticated literature, which expanded dramatically in the 90s.

The mass media followed our industry lead. The new mantra became: “comics aren’t just for kids anymore.” (Many articles started off with the obligatory “pow, bang, comics aren’t just for kids anymore” lead. While that was cute for a little while, it’s just downright annoying now.)

Note that in the last paragraph, I say that the mass media followed OUR lead. That’s right. Us. We. The industry professionals. They listened to our message which was, if you were paying attention, “pow, bang, comics aren’t just for kids anymore.”

The good news: our message got through. Yay.
The bad news: our message got through. Uh oh.
Want to know WHY that’s bad news? Well, it’s clear that parents stopped buying comics for kids.

As a father, I don’t buy products for my daughter that are clearly marketed toward adults. I buy my kid products specifically designed for children like Barney, Elmo, and The Wiggles.

That’s where the mixed marketing message screwed us up. We wanted the rest of the world to respect the art form of comic books. So we reconfigured our marketing message to attract adults, which it did. Many more adults are aware of the fact that comic books are often written for mature minds.

But we still hear many people say that we need more kids reading comic books. WRONG.

We LOST a generation of kids to video games and the Internet. And they’re NOT coming back to comics. They have enough distractions.

My idea (I told you there would be a point to all of this) is to market comic books to adults, almost exclusively. That is, emulate mass-market publishers and book retailers. Turn comic books into an adult hobby.

If you walk into Barnes and Nobles, you can assume that MOST of the books are written for adults. There are sections for Business, Health, Fiction, Automobiles, etc. Then there is a SPECIFIC AREA for kids.

And yet…people walk into a comic book store and assume that the products are mainly for kids. And that they have to look for the product geared toward adults. This is wrong.

Kids don’t have money. Yes, yes, I know, kids have some money, but not compared to adults who work full-time jobs. Adults control most of the big cash in the real world, so it makes sense to market your products clearly and consistently to them.

Let’s stop marketing comic books half to kids and half to adults. Let’s market comic books to adults. Let’s get more adults reading good, intelligent, mature stories. Then let’s rope off a section in the comic book store that is geared towards children.

Market dirty books to adults, and kids will want them.
Market automobiles to adults, and kids will want them.
Market R movies to adults, and kids will want them.
Market Rated-M-for-Mature video games to adults, and kids will want them.
And….

Market comics to adults, and kids will want to read comics.

Look, it works for big publishers and mainstream bookstores, it will work for us. People make their decision based on where books are racked. Unless otherwise specified, most new books are marketed to adults. These books are racked in the main part of the store. This is true for fiction and nonfiction. If a new Stephen King novel comes out, you know that it’s probably intended for adults, right? If a new book on business etiquette comes out, you know that too is intended for adults. Same with politics, science, history, etc. All racked in the main (or adult) part of the store. The mainstream retail bookstore is an adult environment. Family friendly, yes, but definitely designed, decorated, and marketed to adults with adult prices.

Books specifically geared toward kids are racked in the children’s section. Plain and simple. It’s an easy purchase because parents know that they can trust that section of the store to carry age-appropriate stories. The children’s section of a mainstream bookstore is designed, decorated, and marketed with colors and displays for kids.

Mainstream retailers know that you need to market product separately for children and adults. The marketing message of Toys R Us is much different than Starbucks.

And yet comic stores must straddle the line and market the EXACT SAME PRODUCT to both kids and adults. Imagine how a 35-year-old man may feel when he’s buying the same comics as an 11-year-old boy.

As a child matures to pre-teen and teen stories, a parent gives the child some latitude to select their own books. Often, these books come from a line of books marketed specifically to the teen bracket.

As the teen grows into his or her adult years, not only do they graduate primary school, they graduate to adult literature. They want to read adult books, not censored, watered-down, “safe” books. They want the “good stuff.”

We see this in Hollywood too. Kids go from Rated G, to PG, to PG-13, to R. Getting into an R film is a big deal for most kids. They WANT to see the adult films.

Given a choice, most teenagers would rather go see Terminator 3 (Rated R) than Spy Kids (Rated PG). Why? Well, duh, if you’re a self-respecting teenager, the only reason you’re seeing Spy Kids is as a babysitter. You go see Terminator 3 with your friends. Because that’s how we market and advertise those films.

But comic books…gee…we want to market comic books so that an 11-year-old boy, a 20-year-old guy, and a 31-year-old man can buy the same issue of Avengers. All three age groups may enjoy the Avengers story…but the 31-year-old and the 20-year-old don’t want to be perceived as immature for reading a story aimed at an 11-year-old boy.

Stated more simply, the 11-year-old boy may want to emulate the maturity of the 20-year-old man by reading mature literature. But the 20- or 31-year-olds do NOT want to be reading stuff geared toward 11-year-olds.

Again, if we marketed comic books specifically to adults, we would start to remove the stigma for older readers. It would be okay for that 31-year-old guy to read comics in public. It would be assumed that he was reading a mature-level comic.

And if someone saw that 11-year old boy reading a comic, people would assume that the kid was reading either (a) something appropriate to his age or (b) something beyond his age.

But marketing the same product to everybody is not working. Hell, even Harry Potter – proudly read by MANY adults – is still marketed to kids. Adults may choose to read Harry Potter because it’s the “in” thing. But I doubt many of those same people are running out to read Sweet Valley High.

That is, adults don’t want to read ALL kids books, just Harry Potter because it’s special.

Marvel and DC now publish books that are generally adult, yet accessible to teens. For some reason, we persist in marketing these comics to kids. As a result, a huggggge majority of adult readers assume that they have outgrown comics. Don’t believe me? Take a look at Barnes and Nobles on a Saturday night. Lots of adults browsing and buying books. Adults can be seen buying books for themselves and for their kids, but they’re probably not the same books.

Let’s market comics to adults. We’ll continue to make comics for kids, but let’s make kids want to graduate to adult comics. Let’s create the mystique that better, more mature comics are just around the corner.

The kids reading Harry Potter today are going to graduate to Sweet Valley High, then to books by Stephen King, Dean R. Koontz, and others.

With comics, we can guide kids through the same path. A kid today can graduate from Archie to Batman Adventures to Avengers to Batman to Daredevil to Vertigo and other mature books. It’s a natural path and they can continue to read kid-safe titles, if they want.

But for now, forget the kids. They’re off doing other kid things. Let’s concentrate on making comics into an adult hobby by changing how the rest of the world perceives this form of media. Repositioning comic books as an adult art form will extend an invitation to adult shoppers.

Most importantly, adults interested in comic books will find themselves surrounded by other adults….rather than children.



Buddy Scalera is a freelance comic book writer with credits at Marvel and several independents. He is the publisher of Visual Reference for Comic Artists and Necrotic.

[Darthphere]

being a subscriber to Entertainment Weekly i occasionally read it (the sub is for someone else) over the last 2-3 months i have seen 3 comics featured in their "whats hot" list. Identity Crisis, Ex-Machina, and most recently Loki.
not bad for our hobby.

They also mentioned Y the Last Man a while back.

[DBM]

Seems like this thread is often me posting a link that I think is interesting. But I'll continue to do it.

Here's a link the the Tilting at Windmills (http://www.newsarama.com/pages/Tilting/Tilting10.htm) column at Newsarama. If you aren't reading it you should. It's a column about the comic industry written by an actual retailer. It's really interesting stuff. The newest column is about ordering comics from Diamond and how he determines the amout he orders.

What I find really interesting is this section.

Then come the What If…? Books. This sounds sorta like a neat idea, but, ****, they all come out in one week. That’s a nasty mistake. Why? Because I have to consider them as a set, with less attention paid to their individual merit because that is how the customers will view them. Plus they’re not even coming out in a “dead” week – Avengers and Iron Man #2 both ship then as well as Ultimate Secret #1. Yikes!

If I had to order What if Jessica Jones had joined The Avengers? by Bendis and Gaydos as What if…? #1 of a new monthly series, I’d probably have ordered 70 copies. As part of 8 books in an already crowded Marvel week, during the last week of the month when every small publisher ships everything so as not to be late? No, 40 copies then. If subs come in high, I’ll re-evaluate that, but I don’t want to be caught with leftover stacks if this bombs.

What if Karen Page Had Lived? could have been a 60 copy book, downgrading to 35. The rest seem mediocre, 15-20 copies each.

This is something I didn't understand either when Marvel solicited the new What ifs? Why would they do them all in one week. Here's a retailer himself who says he would have bought significantly more issues if they had been spread out over time. And I think the actual customers would have done the same. I know buying an additional 8 books in one week is going to put a major dent in my comic budget.

This just seems like really poor marketing on Marvel's part.

[Gambit8370]

I am... perplexed... by their logic on this as well.

They did the same thing with the 2099 books, which honestly, I said PFFT... I can do without.

I would normally be pretty damn excited about a new What If? series.

But this, IMO, is just not the right way to go about it.



(Does it sound like I'm holding back? I am.)

[DBM]

(Does it sound like I'm holding back? I am.)

Bah, don't hold back.

I think, as the columnist mentioned, that this would have been much better as an ongoing series, or at the very least add 4 more issues and make a maxi-series. The only reason I can think of them not doing this is that they think there isn't a market for the What if?s. Unfortunately by releasing them like this they may create the illusion that there isn't a market, just because people can't afford to buy them all at once.

[iloveclones]

In regards to the article about marketing towards adults: I have to admit that I've found it ridiculous for a while to be reading these things and noticing the ads in them. Candy, video games, etc. It got me to wondering what you would advertise in "adult marketed" comics. Because I would find it equally as odd to be following the adventures of Spider-Man alongside ads for Buicks and Captain Morgan. The other problem that I have with "adult" comics, is that it always seems to imply an overabundance of swearing, violence, and boobies. I would rather "adult" mean telling a story with a more adult audience in mind rather than gratuitous swearing, violence, and boobies. Other than that, I would like ALL comics to be written with just me in mind. Let kids fend for themselves. They have enough entertainment geared towards them. (Too much, in fact.....Go to your room and do your d*** homework!)
And yeah, I agree, that What If deal is screwed up. Major blunder on Marvel's part. If they were going to do this, why not just release it as a TPB only?

[newnoiseimage]

CAPTAIN MORGAN!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

and about your adult book comment, i posted about this a while ago, the max line started out with HBO syndrome (nudity for no reason other than you can) but through titles like punisher and Supreme Power have become a legitamite outlet for somewhat tasteful adult books.

[Elijya]

In regards to the article about marketing towards adults: I have to admit that I've found it ridiculous for a while to be reading these things and noticing the ads in them. Candy, video games, etc. It got me to wondering what you would advertise in "adult marketed" comics. Because I would find it equally as odd to be following the adventures of Spider-Man alongside ads for Buicks and Captain Morgan.

hehehe. And don't forget the "Tobacco is Whacko if your a Teen" ads, and all the hip trendy clothing lines


And yeah, I agree, that What If deal is screwed up. Major blunder on Marvel's part. If they were going to do this, why not just release it as a TPB only?


that's very risky, there's less profit involved, and if the tpb bombs, it's a bigger loss than if the issues bomb. I don't believe marvel has ever attempted releasing a tpb for something that wasn't originally printed in issues (if they have I simply can't think of one). DC has only done it a few times, with books like I, Papprazzi, Poe, and Orbiter (and I'm probably the only one on this board who has read those, and most of you have probably never heard of them either)

[Elijya]

CAPTAIN MORGAN!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

and about your adult book comment, i posted about this a while ago, the max line started out with HBO syndrome (nudity for no reason other than you can) but through titles like punisher and Supreme Power have become a legitamite outlet for somewhat tasteful adult books.


:rolleyes: yeah, there's no gratuitous nudity in Supreme Power....

[iloveclones]

that's very risky, there's less profit involved, and if the tpb bombs, it's a bigger loss than if the issues bomb. I don't believe marvel has ever attempted releasing a tpb for something that wasn't originally printed in issues (if they have I simply can't think of one).

I was really just being sarcastic more than anything else. With how fast they put them out on other things, it seems like they would release the 27 What If's they have planned for that day, and release the TPB 2 weeks later. After reading that article, the only upside to doing this seems to be to "trick" the retailer into buying all of them. Certainly, this is the case at my comic shop. Their pull form has it listed as "What If?" which means that they'll pull all of them for you. I'm sure if you asked, they'd pull just the ones you wanted (they're pretty accommodating). That's really the only benefit I see other than making a big splash for the start of a series (Is that what this is supposed to be or just a bunch of one-shots?).

[iloveclones]

:rolleyes: yeah, there's no gratuitous nudity in Supreme Power....

The bummer about that was I was letting my nephew read it. (Now, he's probably stealing from my bro and hiding it under his mattress or something ;) )

[newnoiseimage]

i dont think it was gratuitous at all, i felt that it fit the character. gratuitous would be having a conversation in a strrip club, even though it doesnt need to be taken in a strip club.

see the difference?

you have an alien not used to our customs, while it was a little much i dont think it was gratuitous.

[newnoiseimage]

so i got my stitches out yesterday (lost a couple teeth in my hockey league) and i got a change to catch up on last months comics, not a bad month, there were actually a couple laugh out loud moments, nightcrawler, black widow and gambit were all pleasant surprises...

your thoughts?

[arachnidkeeper]

i read nightcrawler i was inpressed with it also i'm gonna start picking it up now

[DBM]

When reading Identity Disc (which pretty much sucked other than the fact Nick Fury was cool enough to let the Vulture help his own daughter0 last night, I got to thinking about the Prison System in the MU.

Two things stand out to me.

1) Considering that villains are constantly "just getting out of prison," the judges in the Marvel Universe must be very lenient when giving out sentences. It seems as if they only serve a very short time and then are let out.

Judge: Mr. Kassidy, you went on a murderous rampage through Manhattan killing hundreds of people, recruit a half dozen other superpowered criminals to help you, spread rage throughout the population and caused nearly 17 billion dollars in property damage. Considering the jury has found you guilty on all counts, I hereby sentence you to 17 days in a minimum security prison. With weak windows. And an escape hatch.

Carnage: **** you fatty. I'll skewer your body, shove my hand up your ass and use you as a hand puppet.

Judge: That's quite enough. Just for that outburst I'll add on 2 weeks of house arrest after you finish your 17 days. You'll have to report daily to a blind, deaf, mute probation officer who cannot walk and must rely entirely on the honor system and your promise that you are not committing any crimes.

2) The actual security at the Marvel Universe prisons must be atrocious.

How many times can the Vulture escape? Really? How tough is it to keep an 80 year old man with a heart condition and cancer locked up. Aparrently it's pretty tough because he keeps escaping.

And I know that several times he has created a temporary flying harness to escape. But what kind of dumbass warden allows a convicted supervillian who is an engineering genius near the advanced electronics needed to create a flying harness.

I swear to god, do they even interview the prison staff? Or do they just go down to the local Soup Kitchen and pick up the first drunken, mumbling, vagrant they can find that fits the uniform and put him in charge.



Just a little rant. :)

[Gambit8370]

Well, they gave Frank the chair for killing an L.M.D. of Nick Fury...

[DBM]

Well, they gave Frank the chair for killing an L.M.D. of Nick Fury...

And you see what good that did.
:)

[Guyverjay]

Carnage got sent to Ravencroft

[DBM]

Carnage got sent to Ravencroft

I know that. :rolleyes:

I was just using it as an example.

[Guyverjay]

Well it wasn't a very good one http://img57.exs.cx/img57/9734/rolleyes4.gif

[DBM]

Well it wasn't a very good one http://img57.exs.cx/img57/9734/rolleyes4.gif

Maybe you just couldn't understand it. :p

[Guyverjay]

The Vulture example was a good one:o

[Elijya]

When reading Identity Disc (which pretty much sucked other than the fact Nick Fury was cool enough to let the Vulture help his own daughter0 last night, I got to thinking about the Prison System in the MU.

Two things stand out to me.

1) Considering that villains are constantly "just getting out of prison," the judges in the Marvel Universe must be very lenient when giving out sentences. It seems as if they only serve a very short time and then are let out.

Judge: Mr. Kassidy, you went on a murderous rampage through Manhattan killing hundreds of people, recruit a half dozen other superpowered criminals to help you, spread rage throughout the population and caused nearly 17 billion dollars in property damage. Considering the jury has found you guilty on all counts, I hereby sentence you to 17 days in a minimum security prison. With weak windows. And an escape hatch.

Carnage: **** you fatty. I'll skewer your body, shove my hand up your ass and use you as a hand puppet.

Judge: That's quite enough. Just for that outburst I'll add on 2 weeks of house arrest after you finish your 17 days. You'll have to report daily to a blind, deaf, mute probation officer who cannot walk and must rely entirely on the honor system and your promise that you are not committing any crimes.

2) The actual security at the Marvel Universe prisons must be atrocious.

How many times can the Vulture escape? Really? How tough is it to keep an 80 year old man with a heart condition and cancer locked up. Aparrently it's pretty tough because he keeps escaping.

And I know that several times he has created a temporary flying harness to escape. But what kind of dumbass warden allows a convicted supervillian who is an engineering genius near the advanced electronics needed to create a flying harness.

I swear to god, do they even interview the prison staff? Or do they just go down to the local Soup Kitchen and pick up the first drunken, mumbling, vagrant they can find that fits the uniform and put him in charge.



Just a little rant. :)


well, in one of the few occassions where I believe a reason was given for a supervillain being let loose, Mysterio specified in Guardian Angel that he was let out because he was dying of cancer. Yeah, that makes sense... :rolleyes:

another strong possibilty is that the heroes don't hang around after beating a villain. They just beat them up, and drop them off at the police station, with no evidence to prosecute them with

[Gambit8370]

It doesn't say much for Matt Murdock's law skills if his entire rogue's gallery keeps getting off on 'reasonable doubt' now does it?

[iloveclones]

It doesn't say much for Matt Murdock's law skills if his entire rogue's gallery keeps getting off on 'reasonable doubt' now does it?

That makes me wonder, have they dealt in DD, now that everyone knows who he is, how that has affected cases that he's argued? I'd imagine there have been cases where his capturing a villain as DD conflicts with his role as a lawyer. Just curious. I've been reading DD, but I don't remember anything like that.

[Gambit8370]

That makes me wonder, have they dealt in DD, now that everyone knows who he is, how that has affected cases that he's argued? I'd imagine there have been cases where his capturing a villain as DD conflicts with his role as a lawyer. Just curious. I've been reading DD, but I don't remember anything like that.
See, now you're drifting a little too close to some sembance of continuity, a word clearly absent from Marvel's vocabulary.

[iloveclones]

What is this strange language you speak to me: con-teen-uuu-eee-teee. What strange culture you must come from. (And stop trying to sell us that damn island!)

[DBM]

Where the **** is everyone?

This place (specifically the Marvel Board) has been uber-dead lately.

[newnoiseimage]

Where the **** is everyone?

This place (specifically the Marvel Board) has been uber-dead lately.

ive been busy since the "accident" and really havent been in the mood to chat.

(the accident being getting high-sticked and losing 2 front teeth and getting stitches in my face, leading me to get 3 root canals in hte past week, and losing 7 pounds because i can't eat solid food DAMMIT!!!! sorry)

[Gambit8370]

Where the **** is everyone?

This place (specifically the Marvel Board) has been uber-dead lately.
I'm here, but I'm trying to keep my posting to a minimum.

No more long-winded rants.

[DBM]

I've not been posting as much because of my current workload.

But every time I do get a chance to post, it seems like there's no one else around, so that makes me post even less.

I blame Joe Quesada for this.

I don't particularly have a reason to, but I do anyway.

[newnoiseimage]

he usually is at fault for something.

[iloveclones]

Ok, I'll try to drum something up. You see a lot of "best of" threads around here, so I could start a new thread, but I like this thread so I thought I'd try it in here.

What, in your opinion, is the best comic story told (let's limit it to superheroes) in which DEATH is not a major plot point? You could argue what "major" is, but I'll give you a few examples of stories that I would disqualify:
Dark Phoenix
Death of Gwen Stacy
Watchmen
The Kid who collected Spider-Man
Kraven's Last Hunt


I wouldn't say that Wolvie or Punisher killing some nameless thug counts UNLESS it directly advances the plot of the story.

The reason I'm curious is because when these lists are made, they tend to have a lot of these types of stories listed among them.

[DBM]

My comic store's shipment is late today. No comics at lunchtime for me.

:(

Now I have to wait until tomorrow because I don't have time after work.

DAMN YOU UPS!!! :mad:

[newnoiseimage]

all of my october stuff gets shipped out today to arrive next friday. so chear up, it could be worse.

[DBM]

all of my october stuff gets shipped out today to arrive next friday. so chear up, it could be worse.

It could be worse, but this is bad enough.

I just didn't know what to do.

Every Wednesday (assuming I'm not out of town on business) I go down to the comic shop on my lunch hour, buy my comics, and then go to this little deli down the street to get something to eat and read comics.

My whole routine was thrown off. I was lost.

Comics are my life. What can I do without them? Nothing.

...

OK, maybe it wasn't quite that bad. But it was still a little bit annoying.

[fifthfiend]

I'm here, but I'm trying to keep my posting to a minimum.

No more long-winded rants.

See, this is the problem with message boards.

Every time a good *****fest gets going, there're those whiny *******s who are all like "Nyeah, stop makin fun of my favorite comic, people aren't allowed to have negative opinions toward things of which I have a positive opinion, if you don't like something go back in time and tell yourself you shouldn't have read it to begin with" and eventually they whine so much that everyone just says to hell with it and shuts up, and the whining bastards can't be bothered to pick up the slack in the conversation because when you get right down to it, nobody wants to sit around saying "well gee, I guess Gwen Stacy's desecration at the hands of Stracinsky isn't all that awful, if you look at it in the right light," and the board ****ing dies.

[Gambit8370]

See, this is the problem with message boards.

Every time a good *****fest gets going, there're those whiny *******s who are all like "Nyeah, stop makin fun of my favorite comic, people aren't allowed to have negative opinions toward things of which I have a positive opinion, if you don't like something go back in time and tell yourself you shouldn't have read it to begin with" and eventually they whine so much that everyone just says to hell with it and shuts up, and the whining bastards can't be bothered to pick up the slack in the conversation because when you get right down to it, nobody wants to sit around saying "well gee, I guess Gwen Stacy's desecration at the hands of Stracinsky isn't all that awful, if you look at it in the right light," and the board ****ing dies.
It's more to the fact that I just really don't give a **** anymore.

I'm this close, ||, to saying, "**** it" and just giving up on the entire comic book collecting hobby altogether.

[DBM]

It's more to the fact that I just really don't give a **** anymore.

I'm this close, ||, to saying, "**** it" and just giving up on the entire comic book collecting hobby altogether.

I'll give you a dollar for your comics collection. I'll even come pick it up.

:D

[Gambit8370]

I'll give you a dollar for your comics collection. I'll even come pick it up.

:D
Not bloody likely.

When I die the specific instructions in my Last Will And Testament are to shred my entire comic book collection with the paper shredder and use the massive heap of shredded paper as the kindling to my funeral pyre.

[DBM]

Not bloody likely.

When I die the specific instructions in my Last Will And Testament are to shred my entire comic book collection with the paper shredder and use the massive heap of shredded paper as the kindling to my funeral pyre.

:eek:

That's a great idea.

Note to self, change will.

[Elijya]

I think it's a stupid idea. at least give it to a community center so some kid's can enjoy it, nevermind helping your family along financially after you're gone by instructing them to sell it

[Gambit8370]

It will provide minutes of warmth and entertainment as my loved ones get to watch me burn to cinders.

Hell.

I'd bet that half of the posters on SHH and all of the execs at Marvel would pay to watch me burn too.

[DBM]

I think it's a stupid idea. at least give it to a community center so some kid's can enjoy it, nevermind helping your family along financially after you're gone by instructing them to sell it


Well...you're a stupid idea.

Hah.

Take that.

Actually, I'm hoping to have kids to some day pass mine along to.

Can you imagine if you were a kid with a love for comics and your dad had tens of thousands of comics for you to read? I know I would've been in heaven. I just have to make sure to raise my kids with the same love of comics that I have.

[Elijya]

It will provide minutes of warmth and entertainment as my loved ones get to watch me burn to cinders.

Hell.

I'd bet that half of the posters on SHH and all of the execs at Marvel would pay to watch me burn too.

bit of an ego there? I doubt any would care :p :D

[Elijya]

Can you imagine if you were a kid with a love for comics and your dad had tens of thousands of comics for you to read? I know I would've been in heaven. I just have to make sure to raise my kids with the same love of comics that I have.


but then it's not as cool unless you raise him to love comics, then, one day say "surprise! I have this HUGE collection for you".

IMO, the real problem is going to be A. teaching them how to take care of the books and not destroy my collection and B. understand that part of daddy's collection, the box labeled "Vertigo" is not for them until they're a bit older

[Gambit8370]

bit of an ego there? I doubt any would care :p :D
You're probably right.

:(

[DBM]

but then it's not as cool unless you raise him to love comics, then, one day say "surprise! I have this HUGE collection for you".

I'll raise him on comics as I was and I'll keep him out of the basement (which is full of my comic collection) for years until I think he's old enough. Then one day we'll walk down the stairs together and I'll say (kinda like Mufasa to Simba in the Lion King):

Look out across this room. One day all you see will be yours.

And then we'll hug and share the most emotional father-son moment in history.

IMO, the real problem is going to be A. teaching them how to take care of the books and not destroy my collection

I'll raise my son on his own collection never letting him know about mine until that glorious day when all is revealed.

[Cap1970]

I'll raise my son on his own collection never letting him know about mine until that glorious day when all is revealed.
You must have a huge house or a nifty storage facility - my collection has overgrown every closet in the house! My kids are going to grow up around the comics. The best ones, though, I do believe in separating and keeping locked up safe and sound until they are ready.....

They can shred my X-Force and Youngblood books......

[DBM]

You must have a huge house or a nifty storage facility -

Little bit of both.

I have a pretty good size basement. It's the full size of my house and is about 800 sq. ft., give or take a little, with about an 8 ft ceiling. It's just one big open space other than an area I walled in that has the furnace and water heater. The size of the basement was one of the reasons I bought the house.

It's fully finished too. I've got an area I've set up as a home office and another little area set up as a small living room-type area with a couch, a couple chairs, a TV and whatnot.

And the crowning achievement is that I've built floor to ceiling wooden bookcases to hold my comics in. Picture library shelves, kinda, but each shelf holds about 8 short boxes and there are four shelves to a bookcase. And there are three bookcases currently but someday I may have to build a couple more if I keep buying at the rate I'm going.

Then I've got my framed comic art hanging on the walls around the room. And a couple smaller bookcases that I built to match that hold GNs and TPBs.

I need to break down and buy a scanner so I can show it off sometime.

[Cap1970]

And the crowning achievement is that I've built floor to ceiling wooden bookcases to hold my comics in. Picture library shelves, kinda, but each shelf holds about 8 short boxes and there are four shelves to a bookcase.
Floor to ceiling? That's cool. This summer I built a four-shelf rack that holds five long boxes per shelf and thought that was a great accomplishment. You really ought to post a pic of it.

Then again, my wife would kill me for starting another project in "my" room!

[Elijya]

Little bit of both.

I have a pretty good size basement. It's the full size of my house and is about 800 sq. ft., give or take a little, with about an 8 ft ceiling. It's just one big open space other than an area I walled in that has the furnace and water heater. The size of the basement was one of the reasons I bought the house.

It's fully finished too. I've got an area I've set up as a home office and another little area set up as a small living room-type area with a couch, a couple chairs, a TV and whatnot.

And the crowning achievement is that I've built floor to ceiling wooden bookcases to hold my comics in. Picture library shelves, kinda, but each shelf holds about 8 short boxes and there are four shelves to a bookcase. And there are three bookcases currently but someday I may have to build a couple more if I keep buying at the rate I'm going.

Then I've got my framed comic art hanging on the walls around the room. And a couple smaller bookcases that I built to match that hold GNs and TPBs.

I need to break down and buy a scanner so I can show it off sometime.


1. how old are you again?

2. you could get a disposable camera, take a bunch of pictures of your stuff, and when you get it devloped, check the box that says you also want the pictures on computer disc. That's how I got my pictures of my collection here

[DBM]

1. how old are you again?

2. you could get a disposable camera, take a bunch of pictures of your stuff, and when you get it devloped, check the box that says you also want the pictures on computer disc. That's how I got my pictures of my collection here

1. I turn 30 in January.

2. That's a good idea. I never thought of it.

[DBM]

Floor to ceiling? That's cool. This summer I built a four-shelf rack that holds five long boxes per shelf and thought that was a great accomplishment. You really ought to post a pic of it.

Then again, my wife would kill me for starting another project in "my" room!

Well, I'm not married, and woodworking/furniture making is my other hobby besides comics so it was anything to do this. I really enjoyed it when I was remodeling the basement. It allowed me to do a project that combines my two hobbies.

[newnoiseimage]

just buy a digital camera, they are getting less and less expensive, and there are so many uses for them....

not married huh? big time comic collector? seems to fit :p