The Official Brandon Routh IS Superman thread.

[superfever]

look cheerful. nicely done, kazuya.
and see you in 2006, uga2000 :D

[IT is Batgirl]

Pretty good for an old picture.

[KAZUYA]

Pretty good for an old picture.Ya well there is not many to chose from,,lol

[KAZUYA]

look cheerful. nicely done, kazuya.
and see you in 2006, uga2000 :DYa last one was called creepy so I was going for something cheerful ;)

[Superchan]

Whoa the dude is big! and he's got a good voice to boot! best of luck to him (and us!)

[IT is Batgirl]

I think I'm going to come out and say that the shirtless picture I found over at a Routh yahoo group is not Brandon. However, I don't think we will have to worry about Routh's size when shooting starts.

[Rage]

Yes we shall see. But judging from some of Routh's pic, it looks very very, plausible.

Bottom line if they can turn skinny...
http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v396/sage1047/cap007.jpg

Into gold...
http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v396/sage1047/cap011.jpg

And can turn pussy...
http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v516/knight13/Tom_Welling03.jpg

Into it too
http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v396/sage1047/welling5.jpg

Then imagine what they can do with this:
http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v396/sage1047/imdb1.gif

Get the picture? :)

Good points all :D

Rage

[superfever]

i like his jaw line. :)

[Rage]

I think I'm going to come out and say that the shirtless picture I found over at a Routh yahoo group is not Brandon. However, I don't think we will have to worry about Routh's size when shooting starts.

The one in the tightey whitey's? That was Routh for sure.

Rage

[Superman]

Go to www.BrandonRouth.com to see and/or hear Routh's appearance on "Will & Grace" which reran this past Monday.

Thanks to Linn for the mp3 and sage1047 for the video clip.




Superman, feel free to merge after people have seen this thread.

I think they all have seen it now.....

[The Sage]

I think they all have seen it now.....

Including yourself? :)

[IT is Batgirl]

The one in the tightey whitey's? That was Routh for sure.

Rage

I regret to say that's not him. :[

[Superman]

Including yourself? :)Yeah i saw it, He has the voice for it but that's all you can tell from the clip. :)

[gdw]

I regret to say that's not him. :[

Which one is this?

I thought you had confirmed that it was him?

[IT is Batgirl]

Which one is this?

I thought you had confirmed that it was him?

The most recent shirtless picture of him. The one I thought was him. It turns out it's not. Damn, I feel like a donkey's behind.

[Ruthmarks]

The most recent shirtless picture of him. The one I thought was him. It turns out it's not. Damn, I feel like a donkey's behind.

We all make mistakes. Besides, I can't say that random pictures of shirtless guys in this thread is a bad thing by any stretch. ;)

And we do have that nice pic of him from "Undressed" ...

[Ruthmarks]

that's quite recent. guess he still have a long way to go to buff up.

With all the personal trainers he's got, I wouldn't worry ... ;)

[The Sage]

Yeah i saw it, He has the voice for it but that's all you can tell from the clip. :)

Of course, just wanted the people to sample his voice.

[Butters]

Sage owns the Superman forums....

[The Sage]

LOL, why is that?

[The Sage]

I know John Schneider is very tall, and Welling is as tall as he is. Either, it's not a big enough deal to get into an argument over. Welling is still taller though.;) Welling still has the bigger, better physique!:)

Sage, you know better than to look for accurate info at IMDB. ;)

I just realized I missed this comment.

IMDB or an unofficial site? Hmm, who to use for accuracy...;)

Currently, unless Routh already began to bulk way before the announcement was made, Welling has the bigger physique...for now. :)

But Routh has the better voice. :D

[gdw]

Butters is that Bush in your av??

[The Sage]

Go to www.BrandonRouth.com to see and hear Routh's appearance on "Will & Grace!"

Bump.

:D:up:

[IT is Batgirl]

But Routh has the better voice. :D

'Tis true!

[triplet]

I just realized I missed this comment.

IMDB or an unofficial site? Hmm, who to use for accuracy...;)
If you look at any Smallville ep when Jonathan and Clark are standing next to each other, Tom is clearly taller than John.

Tom's IMDB profile says 6'2" and John's says 6'3"...

Even given he might be wearing heavier soled boots than JS, I'd say Tom is at least 6'3", if not taller.

Still, it's only a half inch or so, right? ;)


Currently, unless Routh already began to bulk way before the announcement was made, Welling has the bigger physique...for now. :)

But Routh has the better voice. :D
Mmm... yeah, maybe. That was one very short sentence in the W&G ep, and he was pushing his voice down...

He didn't sound all that great in that Gilmore Girls episode, his voice was higher pitched and kinda nasal if I remember correctly.

I did like him in the W&G ep, from what little was there to see, but I wasn't at all impressed with the Gilmore Girls ep.

He had four lines in that and was on screen longer, but the lighting stunk. He looked awful, but so did everyone else.

I thought, except for the shadow on his face caused by the hat, that he looked pretty damn good in that W&G ep. Kinda skinny, but broad shouldered and tall enough.

Sage, I'm sure you're right: he'll bulk up.

He better. ;)

[superfever]

i wonder where are routh's families members, cousins, friends, coursemates, roomates, schoolmates and colleagues? why they didn't put up their photos together with him? if you're one of them, would you?

[The Sage]

If you look at any Smallville ep when Jonathan and Clark are standing next to each other, Tom is clearly taller than John.

Tom's IMDB profile says 6'2" and John's says 6'3"...

Even given he might be wearing heavier soled boots than JS, I'd say Tom is at least 6'3", if not taller.

Still, it's only a half inch or so, right? ;)


Haha. I don't know, I thought he was 6'3 at first, then Imdb listed him as 6 and a half. Gotta do some more digging.


Mmm... yeah, maybe. That was one very short sentence in the W&G ep, and he was pushing his voice down...

He didn't sound all that great in that Gilmore Girls episode, his voice was higher pitched and kinda nasal if I remember correctly.

I did like him in the W&G ep, from what little was there to see, but I wasn't at all impressed with the Gilmore Girls ep.

He had four lines in that and was on screen longer, but the lighting stunk. He looked awful, but so did everyone else.

I thought, except for the shadow on his face caused by the hat, that he looked pretty damn good in that W&G ep. Kinda skinny, but broad shouldered and tall enough.

Sage, I'm sure you're right: he'll bulk up.

He better. ;)

Heh.

His Gilmore appearance was three years ago, it's relative to assume he improved in acting.

[ReaderOfPosts]

i wonder where are routh's families members, cousins, friends, coursemates, roomates, schoolmates and colleagues? why they didn't put up their photos together with him? if you're one of them, would you?
It could be that they have been told from the MAN himself not to do something like that. Or being Iowans...they respect the whole "unknown" angle; and therefore don't want to let lose any photos they have of him.

[triplet]

Heh.

His Gilmore appearance was three years ago, it's relative to assume he improved in acting.
It wasn't really the acting that was the problem, although I guess it was an aspect of it... His delivery was a bit on the dead side, which wasn't a problem in the Will & Grace ep, but his voice did sound different back then.

Maybe he's had some vocal training since... :confused:

[The Sage]

It wasn't really the acting that was the problem, although I guess it was an aspect of it... His delivery was a bit on the dead side, which wasn't a problem in the Will & Grace ep, but his voice did sound different back then.

Maybe he's had some vocal training since... :confused:

Three years can do a lot for acting ability. Someone else I know came a long way in acting in three years, I won't give any names. ;)

[The Singularity]

...I won't give any names. ;)

Kristen Kreuk...? :o

[The Sage]

Kristen Kreuk...? :o

She's not the only one...:o

[KAZUYA]

I think I'm going to come out and say that the shirtless picture I found over at a Routh yahoo group is not Brandon. However, I don't think we will have to worry about Routh's size when shooting starts. I told you so,, Lol I just had to say it... ;)

[triplet]

Three years can do a lot for acting ability.
I did say that he was better in the W&G ep, didn't I?

Just because I'm a gnilleW fan doesn't mean you need to be defensive about what I say about Routh....


Someone else I know came a long way in acting in three years, I won't give any names. ;)
:up: :up: :up: :D

[The Sage]

I did say that he was better in the W&G ep, didn't I?

Just because I'm a gnilleW fan doesn't mean you need to be defensive about what I say about Routh....




Just a habit from dealing with bashing, that's all.

[triplet]

Just a habit from dealing with bashing, that's all.
Likely story....

;)

[jas01724]

Haha. I don't know, I thought he was 6'3 at first, then Imdb listed him as 6 and a half. Gotta do some more digging.
IMDb gets much of its bio information from fans who submit it - highly reliable way to gain info if you ask me. ;)

Tom's at least 6'3" - after all, he only looks marginally shorter than Schneider in the indoor scenes, and Tom films those with sandals on! Watch season one; he's always taller than JS. Then watch season two onwards; he's around the same height. No coincidence.

Oh, topic. Impressive deep voice on the W&G ep. I wonder about those curves he was talking about...

[The Sage]

IMDb gets much of its bio information from fans who submit it - highly reliable way to gain info if you ask me. ;)

Tom's at least 6'3" - after all, he only looks marginally shorter than Schneider in the indoor scenes, and Tom films those with sandals on! Watch season one; he's always taller than JS. Then watch season two onwards; he's around the same height. No coincidence.

Oh, topic. Impressive deep voice on the W&G ep. I wonder about those curves he was talking about...

That doesn't sound right, taller than JS in season one, but around the same height in the next two seasons?

Glad you're impressed by Routh's voice.

[jas01724]

That doesn't sound right, taller than JS in season one, but around the same height in the next two seasons?
Yes, because in season one he wore boots that made him taller than everyone, including JS, but from season two onwards he was told to wear sandals or just bare feet in any shots where they can get away with it. It knocks a couple of inches off his height. And even with bare feet, he's still about the same height as JS.

This is on one of the season two commentaries...

[Ruthmarks]

Glad you're impressed by Routh's voice.

I'm actually curious as to whether Brandon Routh will try to disguise his voice as Clark Kent while adopting a deeper, natural tone for Superman (much like Christopher Reeve in the earlier films, and used a bit more emphatically by Bud Collyer in the old "Superman" cartoons from the 60's) -- or if he'll just go the route of Tim Daly and Dean Cain (a single tone used for both identities).

Personally, I'm hoping for something closer to the former. What about the rest of you?

[IT is Batgirl]

I'm actually curious as to whether Brandon Routh will try to disguise his voice as Clark Kent while adopting a deeper, natural tone for Superman (much like Christopher Reeve in the earlier films, and used a bit more emphatically by Bud Collyer in the old "Superman" cartoons from the 60's) -- or if he'll just go the route of Tim Daly and Dean Cain (a single tone used for both identities).

Personally, I'm hoping for something closer to the former. What about the rest of you?

Two unique tones!

[ReaderOfPosts]

Two unique tones!

Fair Enough...

It will be two unique tones I am quite certain...

After all the last I knew they were 2 different "people"...

[Ruthmarks]

Two unique tones!

Agreed.

I always thought it helped differentiate the two identities (aside from the obvious things like posture, the glasses, the suit and tie vs. the costume), so I'm hoping that Routh employs it in his performance. I'm glad he has a deep voice that he could use for Superman, but I'm hoping he can also lighten it up substantially for Clark Kent.

[The Singularity]

Routh isn't getting enough fan appreciation for my liking. I'd like to see fanboys idolise his like the batfans idolise pussy-Bale... :o

[The Sage]

Routh isn't getting enough fan appreciation for my liking. I'd like to see fanboys idolise his like the batfans idolise pussy-Bale... :o

WHAT DID YOU JUST SAY? :mad::p

[Ruthmarks]

Routh isn't getting enough fan appreciation for my liking. I'd like to see fanboys idolise his like the batfans idolise pussy-Bale... :o

Excuse me, Sing ... but I just looked up "pussy" in Webster's Dictionary and got this:

http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v516/knight13/Tom_Welling03.jpg

[green]

Yes we shall see. But judging from some of Routh's pic, it looks very very, plausible.

Bottom line if they can turn skinny...
http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v396/sage1047/cap007.jpg

Into gold...
http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v396/sage1047/cap011.jpg

And can turn pussy...
http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v516/knight13/Tom_Welling03.jpg

Into it too
http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v396/sage1047/welling5.jpg

Then imagine what they can do with this:
http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v396/sage1047/imdb1.gif

Get the picture? :)



Sage, that was one of the funniest posts ever!

[The Sage]

Sage, that was one of the funniest posts ever!

It's so much easier to outwit someone with humor rather than flaming. :)

[Alonsovich]

Routh isn't getting enough fan appreciation for my liking. I'd like to see fanboys idolise his like the batfans idolise pussy-Bale... :o

Pussy-Bale? Ehhhhhhhh....







































BWAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA!!!

[Phaser]

Routh isn't getting enough fan appreciation for my liking. I'd like to see fanboys idolise his like the batfans idolise pussy-Bale... :o

That's because Routh is still nowhere near the perfect Superman that the "pussy" Bale is for Batman. :o

Also, I find it funny because mostly, isn't it Supes who is acting like a pussy in the comics? :D

[C. Lee]

I think everyone needs to stop with the "P" reference...there's no need to continue it.

[The Sage]

That word isn't allowed?

[StarvingArtist]

What the hell kind of conversation is this. We've officially run out of things to talk about.

[triplet]

That word isn't allowed?
It's offensive. So, it should be added to the filters.

C. Lee, you listening?

[The Sage]

It's offensive. So, it should be added to the filters.

C. Lee, you listening?

Very true. From now on I'll use stars or whatnot when applying that word. :o

[triplet]

Very true. From now on I'll use stars or whatnot when applying that word. :oI'm sure most female members of the forum would appreciate it, as I do.

Thanks.

[C. Lee]

It's offensive. So, it should be added to the filters.

C. Lee, you listening?
Yes...I asked that this be done a while back....I'll have to re submit it. It hadnt been used much until the last couple days.

[triplet]

Yes...I asked that this be done a while back....I'll have to re submit it. It hadnt been used much until the last couple days.
Thanks.

http://deephousepage.com/smilies/praise2.gif

[gdw]

I believ you are adding conotations to it that are not neccissary. In that way it is mor of a dirivative of wussy.

[Ruthmarks]

I believ you are adding conotations to it that are not neccissary. In that way it is mor of a dirivative of wussy.

That's pretty much how I took it as well. But as a woman, I can definitely understand why triplet and other people would find it offensive. I don't think Sing meant any harm by it (and I did laugh as sage's reference in his own "argument" for Routh, which I reffered to), but it's probably best just to drop the entire thing.

That being said, can we leave good Mr. Bale to the Bat fans and continue our discussion of Mr. Routh? :)

[IT is Batgirl]

Routh's getting into the best shape of his life!

[green]

That being said, can we leave good Mr. Bale to the Bat fans and continue our discussion of Mr. Routh? :)



You can say that again.
So what kind of PR stunt do you think WB will pull to intoduce Routh as Superman to the world?

[The Sage]

You can say that again.
So what kind of PR stunt do you think WB will pull to intoduce Routh as Superman to the world?

They'll probably have a press conference and introduce us to Clark Kent, and hold Superman for the movie. :D

[Puckenstein]

We're gonna pump Routh up!
http://mirrorimageorigin.collegepublisher.com/media/paper343/stills/2k59h12b.jpg

[green]

They'll probably have a press conference and introduce us to Clark Kent, and hold Superman for the movie. :D


I dont know about that.
The leading trend in Super-hero movies is to get the costume out there first...
Batman
Fantastic Four
Catwoman
...some with better results than others.
I get the feeling we will get some sort of professional photograph (not a set pic) of him in the suit first.

[Hunter Rider]

http://66.78.34.190/%7Ebollywoo/wallpapers/superman/imgs/superman02.jpgSpeaking of costumes does anybody know if the one in this pic is from an actual book or is it just an artist making there own look up??

[Alonsovich]

http://66.78.34.190/%7Ebollywoo/wallpapers/superman/imgs/superman02.jpgSpeaking of costumes does anybody know if the one in this pic is from an actual book or is it just an artist making there own look up??

That's from the Superman Blue era... :o

[Hunter Rider]

That's from the Superman Blue era... :oThe Superman blue era?
Which graphic novels contain that material?

[Alonsovich]

The Superman blue era?
Which graphic novels contain that material?

I'm not sure about GNs. There was a time that it became the new image of Superman during the 90s and it was done in the monthly comics...

[Hunter Rider]

I'm not sure about GNs. There was a time that it became the new image of Superman during the 90s and it was done in the monthly comics...
were they any good?
did you like the look?:)

[The Singularity]

I don't think Sing meant any harm by it (and I did laugh as sage's reference in his own "argument" for Routh, which I reffered to).

I enjoy taunting our fellow bat fans...:)

[Alonsovich]

were they any good?
did you like the look?:)

Meh, weak at the very least. They eventually went back to the traditional look because their sales went down very fast...

[Hunter Rider]

Meh, weak at the very least. They eventually went back to the traditional look because their sales went down very fast...ah well i won't loose any sleep over them,Thanks for the info:up:

[C. Lee]

It seemed more like just a publicity stunt....have him change costume and powers, get on the news....then have him change back, and get on the news.

[Hunter Rider]

It seemed more like just a publicity stunt....have him change costume and powers, get on the news....then have him change back, and get on the news.
ah! youve gotta love cheap gimmiks:p :)

[BH/HHH]

I just watched the episode of Will & Grace with Routh in I thought he sounded a bit loike Tom Cruise. sounds good.

[Hunter Rider]

I just watched the episode of Will & Grace with Routh in I thought he sounded a bit loike Tom Cruise. sounds good.
That is good,I love TC but rouths taller right ?:D

[BH/HHH]

Yeah ha, ha he is a lot taller I was thinking whilst watching wo he's big. Only thing was he wasn't in the episode until the end and when he was he was only in it for a minute his line was:

"I'm curvy, where it counts"

[Hunter Rider]

Yeah ha, ha he is a lot taller I was thinking whilst watching wo he's big. Only thing was he wasn't in the episode until the end and when he was he was only in it for a minute his line was:

"I'm curvy, where it counts"hmmm......Sounds like a line for lois.......still he's taller than Tc PHEW !!!!;)

[BH/HHH]

It was pretty funny.

[The Sage]

I enjoy taunting our fellow bat fans...:)

I noticed that. :p

[ReaderOfPosts]

I just watched the episode of Will & Grace with Routh in I thought he sounded a bit loike Tom Cruise. sounds good.

I think I heard it from someone somewhere that people have made references to Routh/Cruise looking similar.

Which certainly can't be bad for Routh.

I would have to agree that there is resemblance, although in my opinion Routh's voice is deeper than Tom. (Cause' Cruise and I are on a first name basis or something, jeez).

:wolverine

[IT is Batgirl]

I have to agree that from that clip, Routh has a deeper voice than Cruise.

[BH/HHH]

I have to agree that from that clip, Routh has a deeper voice than Cruise.

I would agree its a deeper voice than Cruise but I don't think he bears any physical or facial resemblance to Cruise

[green]

I would agree its a deeper voice than Cruise but I don't think he bears any physical or facial resemblance to Cruise


And thank god, cause Cruise is like 5'6".

[KAZUYA]

Are we talking about Tom Cruise as Superman, My god that would be lame.

[IT is Batgirl]

Are we talking about Tom Cruise as Superman, My god that would be lame.

No. They're talking about how Routh has a Cruise-like voice, only deeper.

[KAZUYA]

No. They're talking about how Routh has a Cruise-like voice, only deeper.Oh ya I didnt hear that, They dont sound similar to me.

[Son of Jor-El]

"help me to help you, lois...help me....to help...you..."

[The Batman]

"Lois...You...complete me..."

[Son of Jor-El]

"you had me at 'truth'..."

[The Singularity]

SHOW ME THE MONEY!!!!!

[The Nose Goblin]

SHOW ME THE MONEY!!!!!
*opens wallet to show Sing three one dollar bills, a quarter, a movie ticket stub, and one Trojan laxex condom...ribbed.*

[The Incredible Hulk]

for her pleasure of course ;)

[Ruthmarks]

"I feel the need ... "

...

"The need for speed ... "

[IT is Batgirl]

"I feel the need ... for speed ... "

"I feel the need..the need for speed!"

Top Gun rules. Tom Cruise rules.

Brandon Routh will rule as Superman!

[King Krypton]

I think I heard it from someone somewhere that people have made references to Routh/Cruise looking similar.

Which certainly can't be bad for Routh.

I would have to agree that there is resemblance, although in my opinion Routh's voice is deeper than Tom. (Cause' Cruise and I are on a first name basis or something, jeez).

:wolverine

I saw a lot of Tom Cruise in Routh's face in the press photo WB released with the formal casting announcement, and my dad couldn't get over the resemblance when he saw the pic. So yeah, I can see where they're coming from.

[Superchan]

There was a picture of routh, posted on the superman homepage, where he looked so much like cruise it was almost uncanny.

[IT is Batgirl]

There was a picture of routh, posted on the superman homepage, where he looked so much like cruise it was almost uncanny.

This one?
http://www.brandonrouth.com/images/photos/pressrelease.gif

[Alonsovich]

I saw a lot of Tom Cruise in Routh's face in the press photo WB released with the formal casting announcement, and my dad couldn't get over the resemblance when he saw the pic. So yeah, I can see where they're coming from.

Interesting. He kind of has a resemblance to Keanu Reeves for me... :confused:

[The Sage]

Some say Tom Cruise, some say Keanu Reeves, some say Christopher Reeve. Put them together and you have Routh...:o

[Sverdlovski]

He looks like Clark Kent to me...:o

[The Singularity]

He looks like...



















































Tom Welling...:o

[The Sage]

He looks like...



















































Tom Welling...:o

Hehe, don't start Sing.
He does seem to look more manly doesn't he?

[Sverdlovski]

He looks like...



















































Tom Welling...:o
DIE!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!:mad: :mad: :p :D

[BH/HHH]

I'm curvy where it counts:

http://www.brandonrouth.com/audio/Brandon%20Routh%20speaks.mp3

[Alonsovich]

He looks like...



















































Tom Welling...:o

I don't blame you... I blame crack... :o

[Ruthmarks]

Some say Tom Cruise, some say Keanu Reeves, some say Christopher Reeve. Put them together and you have Routh...:o

:up:

[triplet]

Oh ya I didnt hear that, They dont sound similar to me.
I don't think so either... Cruise has a very nasal sound to his voice, which Routh didn't have in that W&G clip.

[triplet]

He looks like...








Tom Welling...:o
He does not...

[The Sage]

He does not...

Yes he does. :p


Seriously, I showed Routh's pic to a friend of mine who watches Smallville. He said Routh and Welling look like brothers. He also says both look like they could be Reeve's sons. Imagine that.

[The Singularity]

He does not...

Observe...

Welling looks like Chris Reeve...
Routh is Superman...
Ergo, Routh is Chris Reeve...
Vis-a-vie, Routh looks like Welling...

:o

[triplet]

Yes he does. :p


Seriously, I showed Routh's pic to a friend of mine who watches Smallville. He said Routh and Welling look like brothers. He also says both look like they could be Reeve's sons. Imagine that.
I guess in a vague sorta way they're similar, but they're hardly "look-a-likes"...

Welling has a much more square looking face and Routh's is longer.

You don't really want me to post a Welling head shot in this thread, do you?

;)

[IT is Batgirl]

Spare us.

[triplet]

Observe...

Welling looks like Chris Reeve...
Routh is Superman...
Ergo, Routh is Chris Reeve...
Vis-a-vie, Routh looks like Welling...

:o
Yeah, sure. Whatever you say...

[Alonsovich]

I guess in a vague sorta way they're similar, but they're hardly "look-a-likes"...

Welling has a much more square looking face and Routh's is longer.

You don't really want me to post a Welling head shot in this thread, do you?

;)

There's one every time you post...

*points at avatar*

:o

[triplet]

Spare us.
:D

Just don't make me...

[The Sage]

I guess in a vague sorta way they're similar, but they're hardly "look-a-likes"...

Welling has a much more square looking face and Routh's is longer.

You don't really want me to post a Welling head shot in this thread, do you?

;)

It's your choice, but I won't be blamed if that head shot was...X-ed out. ;)


Sage likes to play dirty games.

[Alonsovich]

Observe...

Welling looks like Chris Reeve...
Routh is Superman...
Ergo, Routh is Chris Reeve...
Vis-a-vie, Routh looks like Welling...

:o

Wow, that crack must be good... :)

[triplet]

There's one every time you post...

*points at avatar*

:o
True... :up:

You know, I wish I had a good pic of me and my two sisters that crops down well to 50x50 pixels and my screen name would be reflected in my avatar. I just don't.

Most photos of the three of us have us in a row, so they just don't crop well.

[The Singularity]

Sage likes to play dirty games.

Winner of The Singularity's DOUBLE ENTENDRE of the week prize...! :up:

[triplet]

It's your choice, but I won't be blamed if that head shot was...X-ed out. ;)


Sage likes to play dirty games.
I usually link to Supermanhomepage, not your images, for just this reason.

;)

[The Singularity]

Wow, that crack must be good... :)

Multo bene crack...:o

[Alonsovich]

Multo bene crack...:o

Pssst... Barça won 3-0 to Real Madrid... :o

[The Sage]

I usually link to Supermanhomepage, not your images, for just this reason.

;)

Very slick. :D

[The Sage]

Winner of The Singularity's DOUBLE ENTENDRE of the week prize...! :up:

:D:up:

[The Singularity]

Pssst... Barça won 3-0 to Real Madrid... :o

:eek: :eek: :eek:

Holy crap!

La Liga is over. Might as well hand it over to Barca now. Who scored?

[IT is Batgirl]

Dammit, I wanna see Intl football on American tv...

[Alonsovich]

:eek: :eek: :eek:

Holy crap!

La Liga is over. Might as well hand it over to Barca now. Who scored?

Eto'o, Van Bronckhorst and Ronaldinho... :o

[Sverdlovski]

Observe...

Welling looks like Chris Reeve...
Routh is Superman...
Ergo, Routh is Chris Reeve...
Vis-a-vie, Routh looks like Welling...

:o
Whoa.... I'm The One, dude... and I didn't understand a word you said...:o

[The Singularity]

Whoa.... I'm The One, dude... and I didn't understand a word you said...:o

Then you are not The One...

[The Singularity]

Eto'o, Van Bronckhorst and Ronaldinho... :o

Holier crap!

[The Sage]

Whoa.... I'm The One, dude... and I didn't understand a word you said...:o

LOL

[IT is Batgirl]

I got it...

[Alonsovich]

Holier crap!

Roberto Carlos certified he's ready for retirement in Eto'o goal. Anyway, I'm happy Valencia won too. They've passed Real... :up:

[Sverdlovski]

Eto'o, Van Bronckhorst and Ronaldinho... :o
As a Brazilian I must say that Ronaldinho Gaúcho sucks ass and looks more like a horse than Welling...:o

[The Singularity]

Roberto Carlos certified he's ready for retirement in Eto'o goal. Anyway, I'm happy Valencia won too. They've passed Real... :up:

Real seem to be heading to the stage Barca were a few years back... with a team full of hopeless individuals. I didn't really fancy Rikaard this season as he totally reshuffled the pack but it seems to have paid off for him.

Damn 3-0. The b*tch slap to end all b*tch slaps!

[Alonsovich]

As a Brazilian I must say that Ronaldinho Gaúcho sucks ass and looks more like a horse than Welling...:o

You should see how he's playing here. The best player of La Liga by far... :o

[The Singularity]

You should see how he's playing here. The best player of La Liga by far... :o

Just like Welling...:o

[Sverdlovski]

You should see how he's playing here. The best player of La Liga by far... :o
Yes, I watch the Spanish League. And it amazes me how bad Ronaldinho Gaúcho plays when he's on the Seleção...

[BH/HHH]

Oh god I hate football living in the UK I get it 24-7 I think it is a dire sport I like Ice Hockey.

[Sverdlovski]

http://www.thewb.com/THEWB/Images/Dynamic/i48/SM-TWelling-R_2x3_240.jpg
Tom Welling

Looks like
http://www.alicia-logic.com/email/Horse%20Face.jpg
A horse, who looks like

http://www.irmostars.com/fotos/ronaldinho.jpg
Ronaldinho Gaúcho, who looks like

http://www.silverbulletcomicbooks.com/ambi/images/BLACKSUPES.jpg
This fella. This fella is

http://www.supermanhawaii.com/Ssymbol.jpeg
Superman, so...












http://www.thewb.com/THEWB/Images/Dynamic/i48/SM-TWelling-R_2x3_240.jpg is :supes: !!!!!

[Alonsovich]

Yes, I watch the Spanish League. And it amazes me how bad Ronaldinho Gaúcho plays when he's on the Seleção...

That happens to most players today anyway. Just look at the spanish team... :o

[The Singularity]

Seleção...

Translation...?

[Sverdlovski]

Brazilian national team

Seleção means 'scratch team'

[The Singularity]

Thanks.

[Sverdlovski]

All good national teams have 'nicknames'... Brazil is the Seleção, Italy is the Azzurra, Spain the Fúria (sp) etc...

[The Singularity]

I love the Italian league team nicknames. Personally, I'm a Rossoneri fan...

[Alonsovich]

All good national teams have 'nicknames'... Brazil is the Seleção, Italy is the Azzurra, Spain the Fúria (sp) etc...

Furia is without the accent... :)

[Sverdlovski]

Thanks... my Spanish is worse than my English......:o

[Alonsovich]

Thanks... my Spanish is worse than my English......:o

Shouldn't be... it's very similar to portuguese... :confused:

[Sverdlovski]

Shouldn't be... it's very similar to portuguese... :confused:
Yeah, but that's the reason... I'm too lazy to study more...;) I definetely can understand Spanish, but speaking and writing get me all confused...:(

[The Incredible Hulk]

Does Routh play soccer in SPain now? Or has this thread gotten really off topic? sorry I didnt go back to read the last 4 pages

[IT is Batgirl]

Routh is Superman

[Sverdlovski]

Does Routh play soccer in SPain now? Or has this thread gotten really off topic? sorry I didnt go back to read the last 4 pages
How come you didn't know that????? Not only he plays soccer in Spain, but he scored twice today!!!!:o

[Butters]

Routh is Superman
You certainly own this thread, lol. :cool:

[triplet]

Very slick. :D
Thank you... :D

[triplet]

Dammit, I wanna see Intl football on American tv...You can: get DirecTV, they have a soccer.. er... football.... package.

It's very expensive, however. I don't remember the price, but I do remember the bruise I got when my jaw hit the floor. ;)

[uGa2000]

Some say Tom Cruise, some say Keanu Reeves, some say Christopher Reeve. Put them together and you have Routh...
LOL! Too bad I don't have a laugh icon sage. He's wishes. Reeve, Reeves, and Cruiser, all look like men. Routh looks like a punk kid. :)

[The Sage]

LOL! Too bad I don't have a laugh icon sage. He's wishes. Reeve, Reeves, and Cruiser, all look like men. Routh looks like a punk kid. :)

I hope you're here to pick a fight, I'm in the mood. :unishr:

[IT is Batgirl]

Nothing new:

http://www.sun-sentinel.com/features/lifestyle/sfl-21namedropnov21,0,980013.story?coll=sfla-features-headlines

Routh a lot like Reeve

Information, please, about the new Superman, Brandon Routh. Is he a worthy successor to Christopher Reeve?

You'll have to wait for an answer to that question for another 18 months, when the first Superman movie in nearly 20 years will arrive in theaters. Not much is known about Routh, though it's already clear that his career bears an uncanny similarity to that of the late Reeve.

Reeve was 25 when he was cast as Superman, and so is Routh. Like Reeve, Routh was chosen over several better known names (Josh Hartnett, Ashton Kutcher and Jude Law were said to be interested), and like Reeve, he started in a soap (Reeve, Love of Life; Routh, One Life to Live). Also like Reeve, he will make his movie debut shortly before appearing in Superman. In Reeve's case it was a brief role in 1978's Gray Lady Down; Routh will be seen next April in a modest thriller, Deadly, which stars That '70s Show's Laura Prepon.

[Lone]

LOL! Too bad I don't have a laugh icon sage. He's wishes. Reeve, Reeves, and Cruiser, all look like men. Routh looks like a punk kid. :)

Aww..your choice actor didn't get cast?

Boo-phuckin-Hoo.

Deal with it...punk.

[triplet]

I hope you're here to pick a fight, I'm in the mood. :unishr:
I guess he wasn't....

[The Incredible Hulk]

Nothing new:

http://www.sun-sentinel.com/features/lifestyle/sfl-21namedropnov21,0,980013.story?coll=sfla-features-headlines

Routh a lot like Reeve

Information, please, about the new Superman, Brandon Routh. Is he a worthy successor to Christopher Reeve?

You'll have to wait for an answer to that question for another 18 months, when the first Superman movie in nearly 20 years will arrive in theaters. Not much is known about Routh, though it's already clear that his career bears an uncanny similarity to that of the late Reeve.

Reeve was 25 when he was cast as Superman, and so is Routh. Like Reeve, Routh was chosen over several better known names (Josh Hartnett, Ashton Kutcher and Jude Law were said to be interested), and like Reeve, he started in a soap (Reeve, Love of Life; Routh, One Life to Live). Also like Reeve, he will make his movie debut shortly before appearing in Superman. In Reeve's case it was a brief role in 1978's Gray Lady Down; Routh will be seen next April in a modest thriller, Deadly, which stars That '70s Show's Laura Prepon.

notice how they leave out the fact that Reeve studied at Juliard beforehand, whereas Routh has the past experience of "MTV Undressed"... Like I've said before, if Routh can show me he can act, I'm all for him. However based on what I've seen of him, I dont have a world of confidence in the guy

[The Sage]

I see you've missed the point of the article. :o

[IT is Batgirl]

Omg Routh didn't go to Julliard? Teh picture is rooined!


P.S. George Reeves had no acting experience before landing Gone With the Wind and Superman.

[The Sage]

I didn't know that about Reeves. :o

I don't recall gnilleW having any experience before SV. Bottom line: every man that's played Superman has been either inexperienced or has had less experience. :o

[The Batman]

exactly. Had Welling been cast, no one would care if he went to a school or not...

[IT is Batgirl]

You don't hear people saying "Julliard graduate Robin Williams and Val Kilmer," do you?

[The Sage]

exactly. Had Welling been cast, no one would care if he went to a school or not...

I doubt they'll be saying "British trained actor" Christian Bale when they roll the credits for Batman Begins. :o

[JackBauer]

and it's not like people talk about "abercrombie & fitch's Tom Welling"... :D

[triplet]

I didn't know that about Reeves. :o

I don't recall gnilleW having any experience before SV. Not trying to stir the hornets next but:

Actually, he did have some experience. He did a remarkable 6 episode arc as Amy's love interest in Judging Amy. It was originally slated for three eps but he was brought back for another three due to very positive fan response.

Nothing like acting at Juliard or on Broadway or several summers at the most respected Summer Rep theatre in the country (ahem... Routh upon closer exam probably isn't all that much like Reeve), but he did pretty well considering he hadn't really done much acting before JA.


Bottom line: every man that's played Superman has been either inexperienced or has had less experience. :oTrue.

That said: Not all of my doubts have been erased, he's not nearly as accomplished as Reeve was, but I'm won over by Singer's recent comments on Routh. He seems to be a natural. Anyway at this point, we're just going to have to take Singer's word for it. there's very little evidence either way so I think you have to give him the benefit of the doubt.

Schooling isn't always necessary for someone to be a good actor.

Russell Crowe has never taken a single acting class. He didn't even actually graduate high school - he dropped out at 16 to pursue music and acting as a career, and busked on the street of Sidney for several years before getting his first big break on stage.

He was stellar from the get go with absolutely no training whatsoever. And he's one of the best, most natural actors out there.

I'm not saying Routh is anything like Crowe, who is a highly disciplined and an exacting perfectionist, but you can find diamonds in the rough almost anywhere if you know what you're looking for. And Singer did.

[IT is Batgirl]

Actually, I thought Welling sucked horribly in his JA eps. I saw them all this past week on TNT. The guy cannot insert emotion into his voice. So flat, so flat...

[triplet]

Actually, I thought Welling sucked horribly in his JA eps. I saw them all this past week on TNT. The guy cannot insert emotion into his voice. So flat, so flat...
I disagree... I thought he was wonderful, considering what he had to work with. An he's learned a lot since then...

[The Sage]

True.

That said: Not all of my doubts have been erased, he's not nearly as accomplished as Reeve was, but I'm won over by Singer's recent comments on Routh. He seems to be a natural. Anyway at this point, we're just going to have to take Singer's word for it. there's very little evidence either way so I think you have to give him the benefit of the doubt.

Schooling isn't always necessary for someone to be a good actor.

Russell Crowe has never taken a single acting class. He didn't even actually graduate high school - he dropped out at 16 to pursue music and acting as a career, and busked on the street of Sidney for several years before getting his first big break on stage.

He was stellar from the get go with absolutely no training whatsoever. And he's one of the best, most natural actors out there.

I'm not saying Routh is anything like Crowe, who is a highly disciplined and an exacting perfectionist, but you can find diamonds in the rough almost anywhere if you know what you're looking for. And Singer did.

I did not know that about Russell Crowe. He's a pure natural actor. :eek:

[gdw]

I'm not saying Routh is anything like Crowe, who is a highly disciplined and an exacting perfectionist, but you can find diamonds in the rough almost anywhere if you know what you're looking for. And Singer did.

Hopefully ;)

[The Singularity]

Time for Operation "Routh Idolisation Equating to Bale" to begin...

[triplet]

I did not know that about Russell Crowe. He's a pure natural actor. :eek:Yep... His best friend, Billy Dean Cochrane, went with him from from New Zealand to Sidney to start a careers there, they ended up busking (street performing, for those who don't know what that means) to make ends meet.

Him and Billy had been band mates back in New Zealand, in a band called the Romantix but the band was a bust. But they still play together some 20 + years later...

Crowe had often said he'd rather be singing than acting.

But I'm so glad his other career didn't work out. He's so much better at acting than singing, I've got all his bands CD's so I know. I do enjoy their music quite a bit, Billy is one hell of a lead guitar player, but I love Crowe's acting more.

They do give one hell of a good live show, however....

[triplet]

Hopefully ;)
I'm hoping he wasn't a compromise, as some have suggested, and that he was the real choice...

From what Singer's said, I think he was.

[The Sage]

Same here.

[The Singularity]

Time for Operation "Routh Idolisation Equating to Bale" to begin...

Phase One:

Begin "I'm curvy where it counts..." bandwagon...

[IT is Batgirl]

Phase One:

Begin "I'm curvy in the right places..." bandwagon...

I'm curvy where it counts.

[Wilde]

Hey guys, here is my new movie poster design, with Routh as Superman, Spacey as Lex, and Lilly as Lois. Here are two slightly different versions:

http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v252/wildezc/SupermanPoster.jpg

http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v252/wildezc/SupermanPoster2.jpg

Hope you like them!

(**Note: The Superman body in my poster was taken from original artwork by Carlo Pagulayan.**)

[The Singularity]

I'm curvy where it counts.

I was reading MJZ's post over at BlueTights when I wrote this. Got the wrong quote in my head...

[IT is Batgirl]

I was reading MJZ's post over at BlueTights when I wrote this. Got the wrong quote in my head...

hehe, thought so.

[ILoveHugh!]

they're really good! :)

[King Krypton]

http://www.thewb.com/THEWB/Images/Dynamic/i48/SM-TWelling-R_2x3_240.jpg
Tom Welling

Looks like
http://www.alicia-logic.com/email/Horse%20Face.jpg
A horse, who looks like

http://www.irmostars.com/fotos/ronaldinho.jpg
Ronaldinho Gaúcho, who looks like

http://www.silverbulletcomicbooks.com/ambi/images/BLACKSUPES.jpg
This fella. This fella is

http://www.supermanhawaii.com/Ssymbol.jpeg
Superman, so...












http://www.thewb.com/THEWB/Images/Dynamic/i48/SM-TWelling-R_2x3_240.jpg is :supes: !!!!!

Classic.

[IT is Batgirl]

From 2001-2002 with Rachel Boston, Routh's then girlfriend. Courtesy www.rachel-boston.com

http://img27.exs.cx/img27/8162/gf1.jpg
http://img27.exs.cx/img27/4577/gf3.jpg
http://img27.exs.cx/img27/5058/gf4.jpg

[BK]

Damn, she looks pretty damn young.

[IT is Batgirl]

Damn, she looks pretty damn young.

She's 22.

[BK]

And looks 17. :o

[IT is Batgirl]

And looks 17. :o

Well, she was 19-20 when those pictures were taken. I think she looks better now. ;)

[C. Lee]

My wife watches "American Dreams"....must be why she looked familiar.

[triplet]

My wife watches "American Dreams"....must be why she looked familiar.
I love that show. She had a really good episode tonight with JJ coming home and all.

Excellent show.

[Darko]

http://www.latinoreview.com/scoops/images/brandonrouth21.jpg

Routh in his 2003 halloween costume.

Rather IRONIC, don't you think?

[johnsonuk]

http://www.latinoreview.com/scoops/images/brandonrouth21.jpg

Routh in his 2003 halloween costume.

Rather IRONIC, don't you think?
i think the thread title should have been "Has any one NOT seen" ;)that is one of the first pics that came up months ago when he was rumourd to have tested for mcg.also bryan singer went on the net just after he met the guy and stumbled upon that same pic.

[Mentok]

:thumb:

yeah singer said he found it on google after routh first tested for the part.

[LKemps]

Newbee in the forum...pls. allow me to make an off the wall opinion-
Been a fan for over 20 years, including chronicling the ever growing inconsistencies of his storyline, some good some just confusing. Abilities etc.
It seems that Christopher Reeves is ever the defining embodiment of this character but doesn't seem to really look like the how the comics ever really drew him. This guy Routh is almost a carbon copy, but still short of looking like Reeves. Brendon Frazier actually looks alot closer to the original fifties square jawed version of the comic. (I'm not saying it should be him) I'm just saying they shouldn't try so hard to remake something that is constantly evolving.
Even regarding Lois Lane Why does she have to be stick thin? Margot Kidder was homely enough, no need to remake her. Let's try sexy this time around.
Sorry I wrote so much, but this is the place to write this so.......

[Lone]

Welcome to The Hype, LKemps.

"Watch your step, this place can get a lil rough..." ;)

[The Singularity]

http://www.latinoreview.com/scoops/images/brandonrouth21.jpg

Routh in his 2003 halloween costume.

Rather IRONIC, don't you think?

Not quite ironic... more of a case of "dramatic irony" and foreshadowing.

Irony would be playing the yougn Clark Kent on a tv show and never getting to put on the costume.

[The Sage]

Had to say it, didn't you Sing? :D

[hickboy]

Actually irony would be not putting on the suit and having a much bigger career than the guy who does but has not talent. That is irony

[The Singularity]

Had to say it, didn't you Sing? :D

:o

[INSERT EVIL LAUGH]

[The Incredible Hulk]

Omg Routh didn't go to Julliard? Teh picture is rooined!


P.S. George Reeves had no acting experience before landing Gone With the Wind and Superman.

I didnt say one had to go to Juliard to be successful you nit. My point was that I'm sick of people trying to say that Routh's casting is similar to Reeve's, when the underlying talent aspect seems to be sorely missing. Not that I'd expect you to notice that.

BTW, what the hell does George Reeve have to do with comparisons of Reeves and Routh? :confused: Regardless, your comment is wrong, take a look at Reeves' extensive background of work before doing Superman in 1951

http://www.imdb.com/name/nm0001660/


Good Humor Man, The (1950) .... Stuart Nagle


Adventures of Sir Galahad, The (1949) .... Sir Galahad
Great Lover, The (1949) .... Williams
Samson and Delilah (1949) .... Wounded Messenger
Special Agent (1949) .... Paul Devereaux
Mutineers, The (1949) .... Thomas Nagle
... aka Pirate Ship (1949)
Jungle Jim (1948) .... Bruce Edwards
Thunder in the Pines (1948) .... Jeff Collins
Jungle Goddess (1948) .... Mike Patton
Sainted Sisters, The (1948) .... Sam Stoaks
Champagne for Two (1947) .... Malone
... aka Musical Parade: Champagne for Two (1947) (USA: series title)
Winged Victory (1944) (as Sgt. George Reeves) .... Lt. Thompson
Bar 20 (1943) .... Lin Bradley
Kansan, The (1943) (uncredited) .... Jesse James
... aka Wagon Wheels (1943) (UK)
So Proudly We Hail! (1943) .... Lt. John Summers
Colt Comrades (1943) .... Lin Whitlock
Leather Burners, The (1943) .... Harrison Brooke
Buckskin Frontier (1943) .... Jeff Collins
... aka Iron Road, The (1943) (UK)
Border Patrol (1943) .... Don Enrique Perez
Hoppy Serves a Writ (1943) .... Steve Jordan
Mad Martindales, The (1942) .... Julio
Blue, White and Perfect (1942) .... Juan Arturo O'Hara
Man at Large (1941) .... Bob Grayson
Lydia (1941) .... Bob Willard
... aka Illusions (1941)
Throwing a Party (1941) .... Larry Scoffield
Blood and Sand (1941) .... Captain Pierre Lauren
Dead Men Tell (1941) .... Bill Lydig
Strawberry Blonde, The (1941) .... Harold
Meet the Fleet (1940) .... Benson
... aka Anchors Aweigh (1940)
Father Is a Prince (1940) .... Mr. Gary Lee
... aka Big-Hearted Herbert (1940)
... aka Father Knows Best (1940)
Always a Bride (1940) .... Michael 'Mike' Stevens
Knute Rockne All American (1940) (uncredited) .... Distraught Player
... aka Modern Hero, A (1940) (UK)
Calling All Husbands (1940) .... Dan Williams
Argentine Nights (1940) .... Eduardo
Gambling On the High Seas (1940) .... Excited Reporter on Phone
Ladies Must Live (1940) .... George Halliday
... aka Bridegroom Misbehaves, The (1940)
... aka Hometowners, The (1940)
Man Who Talked Too Much, The (1940) (scenes deleted) .... Hotel clerk
... aka Broadway Lawyer (1940)
... aka Sentence, The (1940)
My Love Came Back (1940) (uncredited) .... Sears (trailer only)
Pony Express Days (1940) .... Bill 'Billy' Cody
... aka Buffalo Bill and the Pony Express (1940)
... aka Wild West Days (1940)
Lady and the Lug, The (1940) .... Doug Abbott
Torrid Zone (1940) .... Sancho, Rosario's Henchman
Tear Gas Squad (1940) .... Joe McCabe
... aka State Cop (1940)
'Til We Meet Again (1940) .... Jimmy Coburn
Virginia City (1940) (uncredited) .... Maj. Drewery's telegrapher
Calling Philo Vance (1940) (uncredited) .... Steamship clerk
Fighting 69th, The (1940) (uncredited) .... Jack O'Keefe


Four Wives (1939) (uncredited) .... Laboratory Man Typing Blood
Gone with the Wind (1939) .... Stuart Tarleton
On Dress Parade (1939) (uncredited) .... Southern soldier in trench
... aka 'Dead End' Kids 'On Dress Parade', The (1939) (USA: complete title)
... aka Dead End Kids at Military School (1939) (USA: changed title)
Monroe Doctrine, The (1939) .... John Sturgis
Smashing the Money Ring (1939) (uncredited) .... Trial spectator
... aka Queer Money (1939)
Espionage Agent (1939) (uncredited) .... Warrington's Secretary
Ride, Cowboy, Ride (1939) .... Pancho Dominguez


looks like a fair bit of experience to me...

[Puckenstein]

I love that show. She had a really good episode tonight with JJ coming home and all.

Excellent show.

:up:

Been quite the tear-jerkers for me the past couple of weeks.

[Puckenstein]

Regardless, your comment is wrong, take a look at Reeves' extensive background of work before doing Superman in 1951




And unless I'm mistaken, Reeves began acting in a day and age when "actors" didn't necessairly study acting. They just became actors, or were discovered, or what have you. You didn't need an extensive acting background to be an actor in 1945.

[triplet]

I didnt say one had to go to Juliard to be successful you nit. My point was that I'm sick of people trying to say that Routh's casting is similar to Reeve's, when the underlying talent aspect seems to be sorely missing. Not that I'd expect you to notice that.
I'm kinda sick of that too.

Although I disagree about the talent aspect. Yes, Reeve was a more accomplished actor but I have very little idea of Routh's level of talent. However, Singer seems convinced he's extremely talented and that's about the best evidence right now that he can act his way outta a paper bag.

From what I've personally seen his performances are uneven: his turn in W&G was humorous and charismatic (if short) but his Gilmore Girls role and that soap stint were less than stellar. I would like to catch his Cold Case episode, however. Some said he did very well, while others have said they barely remembered him from that... I'd like to see for myself how he did.

Although a relative uknown to the wider world, Reeve was a truly accomplished actor before getting the STM role. The summer rep company he worked for from when he was a teen is probably the most respected in the country. Top broadway and hollywood talent work there. That's how he got his Equity card at 16. That is highly unusual, btw.

He worked on Broadway, off-Broadway and had a very successful stint on a soap while studying at Juliard.

Routh's resume is extremely flimsy in comparison.

Again, I'm not saying Routh isn't talented because of all this. That doesn't necessarily follow, he could be the greatest actor ever, but no one should diminish Reeve's accomplishments by saying that Routh is like him.

He clearly isn't, except in some very vague and superficial ways.

[IT is Batgirl]

Whatever. Routh got the role. No one else did. Doesn't that say something?

[triplet]

:up:

Been quite the tear-jerkers for me the past couple of weeks.
Yep. Last night's was especially good, but that Ford featurette after last nght's ep was just weird...

It was strange how it echoed the plot in the show a bit...

[triplet]

Whatever. Routh got the role. No one else did. Doesn't that say something?Didn't you read what I said?

Sometimes I'm too verbose and I know people skim, so I'll post the most salient part:

Again, I'm not saying Routh isn't talented because of all this. That doesn't necessarily follow, he could be the greatest actor ever, but no one should diminish Reeve's accomplishments by saying that Routh is like him.

He clearly isn't, except in some very vague and superficial ways.My point wasn't that he didn't deserve to be cast but instead that he doesn't deserve to be compared favorably to Reeve in regards to their accomplishments.

I believe Hulk was basically saying the same thing.

Anyone saying they're the same in order to justify his being cast is being disengenous, if that person knows anything at all about Reeve's acting career prior to STM.

[IT is Batgirl]

Hmm, if reporters keep on making parallels to Routh and Reeve, there must be some sort of comparison there. They may not come from the same acting background, but there's enough there to draw similiarities.

Edit: Superificial comparisons.

[The Sage]

Enough...

http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v396/sage1047/endargument.jpg

[triplet]

Enough...

http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v396/sage1047/endargument.jpgI guess I should give up.. I'm not arguing the wisdom of casting Routh at all.

What I'm arguing is that he's being favorably compared to Reeve in terms of where they were in their acting careers before Supes and shouldn't be.

I've said this before: Routh is no Reeve.

Let me clarify I mean that in terms of their resumes, not in their talent. He could be the most talented guy out there...

Howver, it surprises me that so many people 'round here seem to worship the ground Reeve walked on and yet say Routh is like him when he clearly isn't. It seems disrespective of Reeve's accomplishments, which is why I'm bothered by it and wanted to argue my perspective on the issue.

To Batgirl: just because some reporter draws the same conclusions that others have doesn't make those conclusions correct, especially when those conclusions are based on incomplete data. That reporter clearly didn't research Reeve a whole lot prior to writing that report.

So I agree that while there are some points of comparison, those points are extremely superficial.

Whatever... I'm shouting into the wind here.

[The Sage]

Oh I know Routh is no Reeve in terms of experience, but he's like Reeve in terms of being an unknown and not having any real exposure before Superman. That's all.

[Hunter Rider]

http://www.intuitivewebdesigns.com/comics/graphics/superman/Superman_Standing.jpg

"Sage has spoken":p

[IT is Batgirl]

Routh isn't Reeve...

Reeve is Reeve. Routh is Routh. They're different, but similiar when it comes to their tv and film experiences before landing Superman. That's all.

[The Sage]

http://www.intuitivewebdesigns.com/comics/graphics/superman/Superman_Standing.jpg

"Sage has spoken":p

LOL

Nice pic, did you design it yourself?

[Hunter Rider]

LOL

Nice pic, did you design it yourself?
I wish i dont have much artistic skill:( I got it from this site:

http://www.icehousedesigns.com/community/viewtopic.php?t=884

[IT is Batgirl]

http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v46/Adenjo/KC_wallpaper1new.jpg

[The Sage]

http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v46/Adenjo/KC_wallpaper1new.jpg

That is a very good pic. :up:

[triplet]

Routh isn't Reeve...

Reeve is Reeve. Routh is Routh. They're different, but similiar when it comes to their tv and film experiences before landing Superman. That's all.
Yes. This is true and what I was basically arguing.

However, what many have said is that since they are a similar kind of unknown and Reeve worked out so well it follows that Routh's casting is a good idea.

Reeve's suitability for the part in the earlier Superman movies will absolutely not act as any kind of barometer with which to measure Routh's suitability for Singer's film, which is why I think most people seem to want to make this comparison.

Routh could be better than Reeve, I have no idea what he'll do until I see it for myself.

But to make the conclusion that just because Reeve looks like and is similar to Routh that Routh will be just as good as Reeve is astounding...

[triplet]

http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v46/Adenjo/KC_wallpaper1new.jpgI like the darker colors of the suit, but the face isn't quite right somehow... the shadows don't match but otherwise one of the better ones I've seen.

[Puckenstein]

Whatever. Routh got the role. No one else did. Doesn't that say something?

You're never wrong, are you?

Yep. Last night's was especially good, but that Ford featurette after last nght's ep was just weird...

It was strange how it echoed the plot in the show a bit...

Last night was great. Last week's I liked, too. Did you notice the 3 (or more) For references during the actual show? LOL :D Yeah, the featurette was terrible - horribly written and horribly acted (not that Ford has a keen eye for talent). My favorite part about it was the end where they said, "To watch the Ford featurette again, visit http://www.whatthehellever.com" Like som epoor bastard is gonna log on to rewatch it.

[IT is Batgirl]

You're never wrong, are you?

All the time. In fact, I was wrong lots of times on my Fluid Dynamics midterm. :p

[muscles]

Still think Welling should have got it :(

[muscles]

Lets hope that Dockers secret message is decoded soon :D

[The Sage]

Still think Welling should have got it :(

http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v396/sage1047/endargument.jpg

[The Sage]

Lets hope that Dockers secret message is decoded soon :D

http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v396/sage1047/jokerdiss.jpg

[Hunter Rider]

http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v396/sage1047/endargument.jpg
I second this:up: I used to like welling but the smallvillains are turning me against him,As far as i'm concerned TW can go blow sheep.:p

[muscles]

Sage dont let docker here you say that :P

LONG LIVE THE DOCKER MESSAGE!

Oh and long live Mcgibble! (best actor ever!) :)

[Puckenstein]

All the time. In fact, I was wrong lots of times on my Fluid Dynamics midterm. :p

I meant on the matter of Superman, Routh, and this film.

[gdw]

Not quite ironic... more of a case of "dramatic irony" and foreshadowing.

Irony would be playing the yougn Clark Kent on a tv show and never getting to put on the costume.

I'd say ironic would have been him showing up as Batman, or maybe Lois :D

[The Sage]

Sage dont let docker here you say that :P

LONG LIVE THE DOCKER MESSAGE!

Oh and long live Mcgibble! (best actor ever!) :)

Tell him what I said when you hop on that yellow bus. :o

[The Singularity]

What is this "Docker message" you speak of...?

Enlighten me so I can go forth with sarcasm...:o

[The Sage]

What is this "Docker message" you speak of...?

Enlighten me so I can go forth with sarcasm...:o

Right here. :D
Docker: What is my purpose Sage?

Singularity: To be his b*tch?

[The Singularity]

Right here. :D

:D Never gets old...:D

[muscles]

Docker's message deals with his "sources" saying Tom Welling still has a small chance at getting the role. He says that several higher ups are still upset at the pick of Routh. Small chance but hey its still a chance :)

[JackBauer]

*sigh* let it go, just let it go... :rolleyes:

[The Singularity]

Docker's message deals with his "sources" saying Tom Welling still has a small chance at getting the role. He says that several higher ups are still upset at the pick of Routh. Small chance but hey its still a chance :)

Oooooo...

Almost as cryptic as the cave paintings...:rolleyes:

[muscles]

and as cryptic as Brandon Routh acting experience :)

[muscles]

Will & Grace OOOOOOOOHHHH :P

[The Singularity]

I know... I'm so disappointed the model-turned-actor didn't get it instead... :(

http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v46/Adenjo/KC_wallpaper1new.jpg

[gdw]

Um, those obsessing with the idea that Routh is a modern day equivalent to Reeves, you are running with something without knoying it all.

Those who are so against the compariso, well, the casting of Routh is what is VERY parallel to the casting of Reeve. Just because there are things that are different (they aren't the same person so they have to have differences) doesn't mean that there aren's similarities that warrent comparisson.

The role has been cast with a relatively unknown actor. That same actore seems to be destined to be surounded with big name actors *cough*to appease WB*cough*

The likes of Spacey haven't been confirmed but we do see that they seem to be going the same route is all.

STM-Superman cast as near complete unknown and surounded by big names to help carry movie; works out incredibly
SR- Superman cast as near complete unknown and Director persuing bigger names to surround him, performance yet to be seen.

This is all that we can compare I guess.

So what are we suppsed to be talking about??

[The Singularity]

Routh isn't Reeve...

Routh's equivalent is Bale. Although Bale has a long way to go to reach Routh's standards...:o

[The Sage]

Docker's message deals with his "sources" saying Tom Welling still has a small chance at getting the role. He says that several higher ups are still upset at the pick of Routh. Small chance but hey its still a chance :)

You know what Docker's source is right? I'll tell you now if you don't know.

[Hunter Rider]

this thread should be retitled "Brandon Routh is superman Tom welling is Clark kent now F***ing deal with it Smallvillains"

[The Sage]

Routh isn't Reeve...

Routh's equivalent is Bale. Although Bale has a long way to go to reach Routh's standards...:o

What did you say? :mad:

[Venom71]

Docker's message deals with his "sources" saying Tom Welling still has a small chance at getting the role. He says that several higher ups are still upset at the pick of Routh. Small chance but hey its still a chance :)
Let me see...Brandon Routh cast as Superman.....yea I would say that means Welling did not get the part...time too move on my friend and fight a different fight that you might have a chance at winning....cause this one is WAAAY over. :p

[IT is Batgirl]

Will & Grace OOOOOOOOHHHH :P

NBC. Major network. Will & Grace: Emmy nominated series. ;)

[Ruthmarks]

http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v396/sage1047/endargument.jpg

I think this is worth repeating ...

On a side note, I had no idea that Superman got a few fillings in his back bottom teeth. I'm assuming the dentist needed a Kryptonite drill to fill those cavities.