The Official Brandon Routh IS Superman thread.

[IT is Batgirl]

What kind of boots give you three inches in height? Frankestein monster's ones?

Routh's close to 6'3. So with those boots, he looks about 6'5.

[Captain Villa]

Why the name change? ^

It was far too long.

[green]

What kind of boots give you three inches in height? Frankestein monster's ones?


You know they can also put lifts inside the boots that would add about 2-3 inches without making the boots platforms....you can buy them at most convenient stores.

[King Krypton]

You seem to know a lot about this, maybe you can help me out. I know Reeve, Christopher Reeve wore lifts that boosted him up, but I'm not sure what they boosted him to. Was Reeve naturally 6'3 and he went up to 6'4 or '5, or was he already 6'4?

Reeve was reportedly 6'4" in real life. Any lifts he may have worn would have put him over that.

[Wilde]

Here are two updated versions of my Routh manip, based on the two different descriptions:

Enigma2k Version:

http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v252/wildezc/supermancostumeEnigma2ksmall.jpg

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IT is Batgirl Version:

http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v252/wildezc/supermancostumeItisBatgirlupdate2.jpg

Apperntly, one of these suits is what we will be getting in the film.

Enjoy!

[Stephen K. Hone]

Here are two updated versions of my Routh manip, based on the two different descriptions:

Enigma2k Version:

http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v252/wildezc/supermancostumeEnigma2ksmall.jpg

______________________

IT is Batgirl Version:

http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v252/wildezc/supermancostumeItisBatgirlupdate2.jpg

Apperntly, one of these suits is what we will be getting in the film.

Enjoy!



I'm counting on a third version! :)

[The Sage]

I'm counting on a third version! :)

Good luck, LOL.

[The Sage]

Reeve was reportedly 6'4" in real life. Any lifts he may have worn would have put him over that.

So Reeve was most likely 6'5 with the lifts.

[Stephen K. Hone]

So Reeve was most likely 6'5 with the lifts.



I don't think Reeve's boots had lifts. Go watch STM. The boots are more like socks at the sole which is how it was drawn in most of the comics in the 50's 60's 70's. Brandon is only an inch or so shorter. They really don't need to add lifts unless they want to for a particular look. They can make him look taller with camera angles and stuff.

[Orko Is King]

After having posted some info on the suit, I'm going to spill some stuff about BJ.

He stands around 6'5" as Superman due to the boots.

He looks like a, and I quote, a "gorilla." He has HUGE biceps. He is, and I quote again, "ginormous."

His abs are similar to Pitt's abs in "Fight Club" in that when he flexes, the ab muscles pop out. Even without the muscle suit underneat the actual suit, you can see his ab muscles through the suit when he flexes.

His hair as Superman won't look like Reeve's. Instead of one shellacked curl forced into an S, he will have one or two strands or pieces just placed on his forehead. It will look...natural. His hair won't be as short as Reeve's. As they haven't done Clark Kent tests yet, I have no idea how his hair/attire will look.

He will wear blue contacts. The blue is pretty hard to explain. It's a blue that doesn't contrast with the blue of the suit. Kinda hard to explain. Either way, it will be blue. It won't be some completely alien blue.

Many many people are impressed and excited with how big BJ is right now. He looks intimidating, even moreso when he puffs out his chest.

Two months before Routh was officially cast, Singer knew he was the guy. Remember that convo they had at Coffee Bean in LA? That was pretty much the deal-maker. Singer showed the WB Routh's test as CK with a certain Lois candidate (not Bosworth) and told them how important it was to have Routh cast as Supes/CK. We know who the studio choices were...

So much for him being smaller than Reeve... :p ;)

[KAZUYA]

http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v340/Kazzz/Manips/NewBrS.jpg

Diff pic using the enigma description.

[KAZUYA]

Ok when did batgirl see the suit?

[Dark Knight]

I'm counting on a third version! :)


yeah...so am i...

[Stephen K. Hone]

Ok when did batgirl see the suit?



I don't think she did. It was described to her. Enigma is describing it to us also. Sometimes stuff gets lost in the translation. Look at the kerfuffle over the Collar. If people knew the difference between a neckline, and a collar a lot of confusion could have been avoided!

[Stephen K. Hone]

http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v340/Kazzz/Manips/NewBrS.jpg

Diff pic using the enigma description.



I'm lost for words. Actually I'm not, but I can't type them here or I'll be banned for sure lol! ;)

[Stephen K. Hone]

After having posted some info on the suit, I'm going to spill some stuff about BJ.

He stands around 6'5" as Superman due to the boots.

He looks like a, and I quote, a "gorilla." He has HUGE biceps. He is, and I quote again, "ginormous."

His abs are similar to Pitt's abs in "Fight Club" in that when he flexes, the ab muscles pop out. Even without the muscle suit underneat the actual suit, you can see his ab muscles through the suit when he flexes.

His hair as Superman won't look like Reeve's. Instead of one shellacked curl forced into an S, he will have one or two strands or pieces just placed on his forehead. It will look...natural. His hair won't be as short as Reeve's. As they haven't done Clark Kent tests yet, I have no idea how his hair/attire will look.

He will wear blue contacts. The blue is pretty hard to explain. It's a blue that doesn't contrast with the blue of the suit. Kinda hard to explain. Either way, it will be blue. It won't be some completely alien blue.

Many many people are impressed and excited with how big BJ is right now. He looks intimidating, even moreso when he puffs out his chest.

Two months before Routh was officially cast, Singer knew he was the guy. Remember that convo they had at Coffee Bean in LA? That was pretty much the deal-maker. Singer showed the WB Routh's test as CK with a certain Lois candidate (not Bosworth) and told them how important it was to have Routh cast as Supes/CK. We know who the studio choices were...



?? So if the contacts don't contrast with the suit, then they are the same as the suit, No?? Or they compliment the suit? Yours sincerely Confused. Stephen ;) BTW. If your contacts have seen him all done up as Supes, Surely they can give us a clue as to when WB will issue a picture?

[Pickle-El]

IIB, thanks for that.

He sounds like a friggin bodybuilder by this description.

[Stephen K. Hone]

IIB, thanks for that.

He sounds like a friggin bodybuilder by this description.



That's a cool quote from Spacey! BTW I was thinking if Routh stands 6' 5" in the boots, that means (He is in real life 6' 2" or 6' 2.5") he has 2.5 to 3" heels. Those are pretty big heels. If Reeve was 6' 4" wouldn't an inch or so heel be sufficient? He is already pretty tall so this smacks of overkill imo.

[The Sage]

?? So if the contacts don't contrast with the suit, then they are the same as the suit, No?? Or they compliment the suit? Yours sincerely Confused. Stephen ;) BTW. If your contacts have seen him all done up as Supes, Surely they can give us a clue as to when WB will issue a picture?

How could the contacts know when WB will issue a picture when it's not even clear whether the description is for the final suit?

[superfever]

Here are two updated versions of my Routh manip, based on the two different descriptions:

Enigma2k Version:

http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v252/wildezc/supermancostumeEnigma2ksmall.jpg

______________________

IT is Batgirl Version:

http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v252/wildezc/supermancostumeItisBatgirlupdate2.jpg

Apperntly, one of these suits is what we will be getting in the film.

Enjoy!
i like the way you design the buckle. i'm fine with it.

[Uncle Bingo]

Great Manips...I love them. Except for the Superman symbol on the belt.

[green]

Great Manips...I love them. Except for the Superman symbol on the belt.


The one constant in all the descriptions of the suit has been the symbol on the belt.....as much as some dont like the concept it's probably a good idea to start getting used to it, just for your own peace of mind ;) .

[gdw]

Nothing really new hear but I hadn't seen this before. I found it in an oldish Mclains magazine.

I haven't seen this exact pic either.

Dammit, I'm having trouble uploading the pic.
I'll get it up in a bit.
Glenn

[johnsonuk]

The one constant in all the descriptions of the suit has been the symbol on the belt.....as much as some dont like the concept it's probably a good idea to start getting used to it, just for your own peace of mind ;) .
could it be SUIT IN A BELT?





:o i'll get my coat

[bweurk]

I'll add to that list any spanish President... :o

Spain has no president, Spain has a king......

The man who rules Spain is their prime minister... if you meant you can't trust him because Spain retired their soldier from Irak, then you ay learn that a new prime minister has been elected, and that spanish people elected him because he said he would bring back spanish soldier....

[green k]

I like the cape length in the 1st manip,the larger s symbol in the 2nd.

[Alonsovich]

Spain has no president, Spain has a king......

The man who rules Spain is their prime minister... if you meant you can't trust him because Spain retired their soldier from Irak, then you ay learn that a new prime minister has been elected, and that spanish people elected him because he said he would bring back spanish soldier....

Dude... I'm from Spain. Spain has NO prime minister. We call him "Presidente del Gobierno", which technically means he IS a president. And no... we didn't choose Zapatero because of that. We chose him because the former government lied about who had done the bombings of the train the 11th of March (elections were the 14th). The former government was saying it was ETA when everybody already knew it was Al-Qaeda. All the polls were giving them as the winners up until then, in fact the only doubt there was was if they would have absolute majority or not. In 8 years of government the ONLY mistake of the former government had been the Irak thing and we weren't going to kick them out for only one mistake. They screwed it in 3 days (from the 11th to the 14th of March) by trying to gain power by any means which included lieing. Since we had a dictatorship not so long ago we were quite susceptible in that matter and it hurt us in such a way that we just HAD to give them a lesson about democracy and kick them out though the oposition had NO programme... now the current socialist government is paying the consequences of this and although they were popular for certain decisions (Soldiers coming home, gay marriage...) their popularity is going down because those popular decisions don't mean crap when the economy is going to hell and the prices are shooting up like a rocket. The former government party is already ahead again in the polls (and most probably will win the next elections if this continues lik it is) and if there is (God forbid) another Al-qaeda attack in Spain (since the socialist party promised that we would never suffer islamist terrorism attacks) it'll mean the anticipated end of this government... the other day the current socialist Defense Minister was beaten up in a protest in favor of the terrorism victims for the concessions they're making to the Bask nationalists, tat's the real situation of Sapin right now. In the government change Iraq had NOTHING to do, and if you think it's a stable government you're very wrong. The international press has been feeding with a lot BS and misinformation regarding our political situation. What's more scary is that we're leaning towards a radicallity of political thinking that is too similar to the ones that lead to our Civil War... we just don't learn about our mistakes...

[Antonello Blueberry]

The former government was saying it was ETA when everybody already knew it was Al-Qaeda. All the polls were giving them as the winners up until then. They screwed it in 3 days and Iraq had NOTHING to do. The international press has been feeding with BS regarding this matter.
Was it ever proven it was Al Qaeda? I remember someone got arrested with the explosive, but was anyone really condemned as being part of Al-Qaeda and connected with the bombings?

[Alonsovich]

Was it ever proven it was Al Qaeda? I remember someone got arrested with the explosive, but was anyone really condemned as being part of Al-Qaeda and connected with the bombings?

It was. There have been already 150 detentions (one of them was the boss of Al-Jazeera in Madrid... talk about impartial press... :o ), although 6 of them bacame suicide bombers in a flat in Leganes killing a policeman when they were about to be arrested. It was a ramification of Al-Qaeda named Islamic Group of Moroccan Combatants. Most of them were from Morocco and were also responsable for the attack in Casablanca the year before. Their boss was arrested in Italy (Milan, I believe)... his name was Mohamed "The Egyptian". It seems they were planning the attack since way before 9-11 according to what he said to the police.

[Ruthmarks]

He sounds like a friggin bodybuilder by this description.

What's frustrating is that there will still be naysayers complaining about how Routh isn't somehow "big enough." :rolleyes:

But from what Batgirl has said, things are looking good. Huge biceps and abs that could stand out through the suit when he flexes is always a good thing (especially if you're of the female persuasion). Add the height to it, and he'll look the part, when all is said and done.

And needless to say, I can't wait to see Routh do this ... :supes:

[superfever]

Great Manips...I love them. Except for the Superman symbol on the belt.
i think it's a nice touch, the way wilde did it. :D

[Wilde]

Thanks Superfever!

[gdw]

I did this sketch based on the descriptions. Although Routh probably wont look this bulked when we see him ;)


http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v499/gdwgdw/supermancostumesketch.jpg

[superfever]

:up: looks cool! nice artwork, gdw!

[IT is Batgirl]

I did this sketch based on the descriptions. Although Routh probably wont look this bulked when we see him ;)


http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v499/gdwgdw/supermancostumesketch.jpg

Wow!

[gdw]

Thanks Batgirl.

So is it close you think??

[IT is Batgirl]

Thanks Batgirl.

So is it close you think??

Sure. It matches what I was told.

[gdw]

k
thanks.

I so wanna see this suit soon.

[Orko Is King]

I did this sketch based on the descriptions. Although Routh probably wont look this bulked when we see him ;)


http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v499/gdwgdw/supermancostumesketch.jpg

Methinks it should be colored.

[IT is Batgirl]

k
thanks.

I so wanna see this suit soon.

Son of Jor-El said he can color your sketch if you PM him a high res version.

[Superman]

I did this sketch based on the descriptions. Although Routh probably wont look this bulked when we see him ;)


http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v499/gdwgdw/supermancostumesketch.jpgIf it looks like this I'll be very happy and this movie will be just fine. :up: :)

[Son of Jor-El]

Son of Jor-El said he can color your sketch if you PM him a high res version.

gladly :D :up:. it's cool someone's a fan of my coloring (besides my mom....i mean...uh oh..)

[Son of Jor-El]

btw, what the hell is you avatar batgirl? looks like some kinda horse statue...but then again i am an idiot

[The Watchman]

edit

[IT is Batgirl]

btw, what the hell is you avatar batgirl? looks like some kinda horse statue...but then again i am an idiot

A wax lion from "Wonderfalls."
http://wonderfalls.story-teller.org/gallery/101/9.jpg

[Wilde]

Here is an updated version of the my manip based on Enigma2k's description. I gave the suit a better texture, and made some other touch-ups.

According to Enigma2k this is really close to what the suit looks like:

http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v252/wildezc/supermancostumeEnigma2klargeupdate.jpg

I really don't see why people seem to hate this design, I think it looks pretty cool!

Anyway, Enjoy!

[Son of Jor-El]

hm...interesting.


by the way does anyone have any issues with the textures i've been using with my new suit drawings over in the supersuit thread? if gdw wants me to color it in i wanna do it justice

[superfever]

wilde, i think the belt should look broader. \S/ should be lower a bit. cape should tug into the shirt and more on his shoulder. and something wrong with the trunk cutting.

[Stephen K. Hone]

wilde, i think the belt should look broader. \S/ should be lower a bit. cape should tug into the shirt and more on his shoulder. and something wrong with the trunk cutting.



I agree but if he makes the changes then it is moving closer and closer to the real classic look. That's okay by me though! ;) Oh, Sorry! apart from those dopey ass boots! IIB's version is a better starting point.

[superfever]

isn't they doing modification on the classic suit?

[bweurk]

Dude... I'm from Spain. Spain has NO prime minister. We call him "Presidente del Gobierno", which technically means he IS a president. And no... we didn't choose Zapatero because of that. We chose him because the former government lied about who had done the bombings of the train the 11th of March (elections were the 14th). The former government was saying it was ETA when everybody already knew it was Al-Qaeda. All the polls were giving them as the winners up until then, in fact the only doubt there was was if they would have absolute majority or not. In 8 years of government the ONLY mistake of the former government had been the Irak thing and we weren't going to kick them out for only one mistake. They screwed it in 3 days (from the 11th to the 14th of March) by trying to gain power by any means which included lieing. Since we had a dictatorship not so long ago we were quite susceptible in that matter and it hurt us in such a way that we just HAD to give them a lesson about democracy and kick them out though the oposition had NO programme... now the current socialist government is paying the consequences of this and although they were popular for certain decisions (Soldiers coming home, gay marriage...) their popularity is going down because those popular decisions don't mean crap when the economy is going to hell and the prices are shooting up like a rocket. The former government party is already ahead again in the polls (and most probably will win the next elections if this continues lik it is) and if there is (God forbid) another Al-qaeda attack in Spain (since the socialist party promised that we would never suffer islamist terrorism attacks) it'll mean the anticipated end of this government... the other day the current socialist Defense Minister was beaten up in a protest in favor of the terrorism victims for the concessions they're making to the Bask nationalists, tat's the real situation of Sapin right now. In the government change Iraq had NOTHING to do, and if you think it's a stable government you're very wrong. The international press has been feeding with a lot BS and misinformation regarding our political situation. What's more scary is that we're leaning towards a radicallity of political thinking that is too similar to the ones that lead to our Civil War... we just don't learn about our mistakes...

sorry for my mistakes, in France, on the news, they always say "prime minister of Spain"......

[SuperYo]

Agree with this!!!

http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v252/wildezc/supermancostumeEnigma2klargeupdate.jpg

[Alonsovich]

sorry for my mistakes, in France, on the news, they always say "prime minister of Spain"......

Well... it's actually the same thing more or less... it's just the name that changes. The function is the same as a Prime Minister. No problem with what you said. I just wanted to play a joke on how bad our politicians are...

[Bad Superman]

So. . . Brandon Routh is Superman. . . .any news of him?

[Crazymaverick]

How can anyone honestly say Welling looks more like Superman than this guy?

http://www.brandonrouth.com/images/fanart/starvingartist3.jpg

[King Krypton]

Agree with this!!!

http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v252/wildezc/supermancostumeEnigma2klargeupdate.jpg

No thanks. I'd rather have this:
http://tinypic.com/1iby2o

[bweurk]

Well... it's actually the same thing more or less... it's just the name that changes. The function is the same as a Prime Minister. No problem with what you said. I just wanted to play a joke on how bad our politicians are...

I think, politicians are always bad..... may be people expect too much from them...

[Lobo]

When does "Deadly" come out? And are you going to see it to see Routh's acting ability or do you want the first time you see Routh on screen to be \S/ ?

[The Incredible Hulk]

How can anyone honestly say Welling looks more like Superman than this guy?

http://www.brandonrouth.com/images/fanart/starvingartist3.jpg


Welling looks more like Superman than this guy.... and his head is proportional to his body too :p

http://www.net-connection-now.com/Welling/images/TWlarge.jpg

But it is, as they say, a moot point at this juncture...

[SHAZAM!]

Welling looks more like Superman than this guy.... and his head is proportional to his body too :p

http://www.net-connection-now.com/Welling/images/TWlarge.jpg

Now that is MY Superman! If they really tried, they could have gotten Welling, but they didn't even bother because Singer wanted an unknown, an unknown who looks NOTHING like Superman obviously. But there's nothing we can do now.

How could they do this to Superman fans? What a disgrace... :(

And I'm actually suprised there are Welling fans still out there. It seems to me everyone dumped on him when Routh got the role.

[Venom71]

Now that is MY Superman! If they really tried, they could have gotten Welling, but they didn't even bother because Singer wanted an unknown, an unknown who looks NOTHING like Superman obviously. But there's nothing we can do now.

How could they do this to Superman fans? What a disgrace... :(

And I'm actually suprised there are Welling fans still out there. It seems to me everyone dumped on him when Routh got the role.
They didn't do it too Superman Fans they did it too Welling Fans.....Big Difference...Welling isn't Superman! ROUTH IS! :supes: :venom:

[StarvingArtist]

You know, I hate to perpetuate another Welling rant, but how the hell can anyone go so far as to say Routh looks NOTHING like Superman and say Welling does? Welling doesn't have a square jaw, his nose is wide with constantly flaring nostrils, and his lips are ginormous. Superman.....doesn't.....look.....like....that. Period. He has in general hardly ever been drawn with any of those features let alone all of those features together. Sure an artist here and there may have put their personal stamp on their rendering of Superman by giving him whatever feature; but all around, Superman has thinner lips, a big square jaw, and a smallish nose sans raging bull nostrils. They chose Welling because he has a boyish face and would attract female fans because Smallville is Dawson's Creek but with Superman. Not because he was the spitting image of Superman per se. Routh's Jaw is huge, his nostrils aren't gaping, and his lips aren't nearly as Jolie as Wellings. Welling could very well be "an interpretation" of superman (he's not even superman, if anything he's the equivalent of superboy) but that's it. Routh fits that generic Superman look so much more, not to mention his voice is a hell of a lot deeper then Wellings.

[The Sage]

Welling looks more like Superman than this guy.... and his head is proportional to his body too :p

http://www.net-connection-now.com/Welling/images/TWlarge.jpg

But it is, as they say, a moot point at this juncture...

That is like one of the worst TW manips, ever. He face looks round, plus he looks like a babyface in that picture. Not to mention a bit feminine. :down

You could've picked a better one than that. :p

[The Sage]

(he's not even superman, if anything he's the equivalent of superboy) but that's it. Routh fits that generic Superman look so much more, not to mention his voice is a hell of a lot deeper then Wellings.

Yes it is, indeed.

[Ruthmarks]

Now that is MY Superman! If they really tried, they could have gotten Welling, but they didn't even bother because Singer wanted an unknown, an unknown who looks NOTHING like Superman obviously. But there's nothing we can do now.

How could they do this to Superman fans? What a disgrace... :(

:rolleyes:

Don't you mean, "How could they do this to Smallville fans?"

Look, I think Tom Welling is certainly attractive. But come on. Saying that Brandon Routh looks "nothing like Superman" at this point is just fanboy bitterness on parade (especially if Batgirl's description of his ripped body is anywhere close to accurate). At least wait until the movie comes out before you talk about Singer's casting of the role being a "disgrace."

And am I the only person who's tired of the Welling vs. Routh nonsense?

[King Krypton]

Now that is MY Superman! If they really tried, they could have gotten Welling, but they didn't even bother because Singer wanted an unknown, an unknown who looks NOTHING like Superman obviously. But there's nothing we can do now.

How could they do this to Superman fans? What a disgrace... :(

Uh...I hate to break it to you, but WELLING DIDN'T WANT TO PLAY THE ADULT SUPERMAN. He had his chance and turned it down repeatedly.

If you're going to be a "Superman fan," the least you could do is respect Welling's decision. If he didn't want it, Singer was well within his rights to cast someone else. (And as for this Superman fan, I would have avoided this film like the plague if it had been a Smallville spinoff, so color me pleads that Wellign turned it down.)

[superfever]

feel sad for welling as his fans can only see him as clark kent. afraid that his acting career will come to an end after smallville.

[Pookie Begins]

feel sad for welling as his fans can only see him as clark kent. afraid that his acting career will come to an end after smallville.

I wouldn't be surprised, if it doesn't he'll just get typecasted into playing a young farm boy in tv movies.

[triplet]

And I'm actually suprised there are Welling fans still out there. It seems to me everyone dumped on him when Routh got the role.

Speak for yourself, but you're not helping things but bringing this **** up again.

It'll just keep goin' round and round, with no end in site.

http://www.sfrisch.com/images/merry_go.jpg

Believe me, been there. Done that.

The posts between this one and yours is probably all the proof you need to see for yourself the level of victriol that most around are more than eager to jump into should anyone speak even the remotest like they don't like Singer's choice.

And the rest of you should be ashamed of yourselves.

Come on, he's obviously just a noobie trying to stir things up and you all fell for it.

I guess I'm going to be taking another little break from here until the Welling bash fest dies down...

What Ruthmarks said: enough is enough and I'm sick of the arguing.

You should all stop it right now before it degenerate further.

[The Sage]

:rolleyes:

And am I the only person who's tired of the Welling vs. Routh nonsense?

Nope.

[The Sage]

And the rest of you should be ashamed of yourselves.

Come on, he's obviously just a noobie trying to stir things up and you all fell for it.



Can't help it, the **** gets annoying. :mad:

[The Incredible Hulk]

That is like one of the worst TW manips, ever. He face looks round, plus he looks like a babyface in that picture. Not to mention a bit feminine. :down

You could've picked a better one than that. :p


Happy now?? :confused:

http://home.comcast.net/~briteuf/cloud.jpg

Also gonna tell Dan El from S-V that you ragged on his manip skills :p

[The Sage]

Happy now?? :confused:

http://home.comcast.net/~briteuf/cloud.jpg

Better. :p

[The Watchman]

Man, I thought all this Welling stuff would've died out by now...

[The Incredible Hulk]

If only people would stop bringing him up in every thread it would...

[The Watchman]

Don't look at me...


...hey, whatever happened to Zing, I liked that guy.

[The Incredible Hulk]

He's around the Smallville forum on occasion, like a good number of posters who posted here more regularly over the past year.

[The Sage]

If only people would stop bringing him up in every thread it would...

Tell the newbs that...

[The Incredible Hulk]

Tell the newbs that...


Who am I? Newb Vader? I dont control them, they work on their own.... (man I feel like Yasir Arafat now... :p )

[Serene]

Who am I? Newb Vader?

*snort*

Actually, that's not a bad screen name. :)

[superfever]

i thought you were the one brought him into discussion, TI HULK? and he is in your sig too.

[The Watchman]

semantics semantics...

[Thunder Emperor]

feel sad for welling as his fans can only see him as clark kent. afraid that his acting career will come to an end after smallville.



funny, lets see where Routh career goes after superman. let me think hmmm ... wait nowhere. ;)

[Thunder Emperor]

Agree with this!!!

http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v252/wildezc/supermancostumeEnigma2klargeupdate.jpg


nice try but that suit looks like :rolleyes: crap.

[superfever]

funny, lets see where Routh career goes after superman. let me think hmmm ... wait nowhere. ;)
i was just trying to tell the welling fans to view him as an actor and don't take him as the farmboy clark kent. he can play different roles and he needs that to develop his career. jesus, what's wrong with you? i thought you're an actor.

[The Sage]

funny, lets see where Routh career goes after superman. let me think hmmm ... wait nowhere. ;)

So many ways to twist this post...

[The Incredible Hulk]

i thought you were the one brought him into discussion, TI HULK? and he is in your sig too.

apparently your reading comprehension skills have failed you. As I did not bring up his name, I merely answered a question of someone who had...


http://www.superherohype.com/forums/showpost.php?p=4947464&postcount=5557 ;)

[superfever]

i fail all the time.

.
.
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success comes from failure, you know? :D

[Thunder Emperor]

i was just trying to tell the welling fans to view him as an actor and don't take him as the farmboy clark kent. he can play different roles and he needs that to develop his career. jesus, what's wrong with you? i thought you're an actor.


jeeez that was a reply to your previous comment that sounded stupid.

[darkzombiemutt]

This is an honest question to everyone here. Do you think we'll get a Routh's own take on Superman/Clark Kent or do you think he'll just try to mimic Reeve's performance? I'm not sure what we should expect, if BJ really is a fan, I'd hope he'll bring something else to the role, but I have this horrible feeling they want a Reeve impersonator (more or less). I don't know if this is true or not, but I thought I read somewhere that he does a great Reeve/clark impersonation. If thats right, I personally hope thats not why he was chosen. I want to see the character's portrayal evolve.

[The Sage]

This is an honest question to everyone here. Do you think we'll get a Routh's own take on Superman/Clark Kent or do you think he'll just try to mimic Reeve's performance? I'm not sure what we should expect, if BJ really is a fan, I'd hope he'll bring something else to the role, but I have this horrible feeling they want a Reeve impersonator (more or less). I don't know if this is true or not, but I thought I read somewhere that he does a great Reeve/clark impersonation. If thats right, I personally hope thats not why he was chosen. I want to see the character's portrayal evolve.

I doubt he'll impersonate Reeve's Clark Kent, considering that Reeve played him a bit over the top and it seems that this film won't be campy like the past ones. If anything I bet we'll see a more mild-mannered Clark Kent instead of the bumbler, but we'll probably see a shy and soft spoken CK, which is a couple of the characteristics I see in CK.

Superman, I'm not sure. How different can Routh's be? Reeve was pretty dead on.

[Zing79]

Don't look at me...


...hey, whatever happened to Zing, I liked that guy.
This is what happened to Zing. He got sick of being associated with Welling everytime he had an opinion (even when the opinion had nothing to do with his casting). So he got his ass out of dodge.

"When you wrestle with a pig you get dirty, and the pig gets happy."
I'll just stay out of this forum, and let people have their place to circle jerk without interruption.

As for the recent question -- how so many people can see Welling as Superman moreso then Routh? They just can, and questioning it isn't going to change that fact.

[Pickle-El]

"When you wrestle with a pig you get dirty, and the pig gets happy."
I'll just stay out of this forum, and let people have their place to circle jerk without interruption.



What's the matter, didn't you like the taste of this 'circle jerk'?



Cute backhanded remarks...I could say the same thing about so many other threads.

[The Sage]

As for the recent question -- how so many people can see Welling as Superman moreso then Routh? They just can, and questioning it isn't going to change that fact.

I agree, and it's also because Welling is currently playing a version of the character while we have yet to see Routh in the role.

[Zing79]

What's the matter, didn't you like the taste of this 'circle jerk'?
Cute backhanded remarks...I could say the same thing about so many other threads.
You lost me. Like seriously lost me.
I'm assuming you're implying that this circle jerk is no differnent then previous circle jerks that might have involved Welling. Slight flaw in your logic if that is so. Nay BIG flaw. First the 'circle jerk' refers to EVERYTHING about this movie, not just selective casting. You can't say a negative thing about the film if you previously supported Welling, cause it's just going to come back to that. And I don't recall you being driven away from the Super forum as a result of a Welling 'circle jerk'.

And that shall be my last comment on that tought -- which is now grossing me out :)

[The Sage]

Umm, is anyone gonna reply to either me or darkzombiemutt's posts about how Routh will portray CK or Superman, or will this just be another Welling debate? :rolleyes:

[triplet]

i was just trying to tell the welling fans to view him as an actor and don't take him as the farmboy clark kent. he can play different roles and he needs that to develop his career. jesus, what's wrong with you? i thought you're an actor.

What's wrong with you?

Who said that the only thing Welling fans could see Welling as is Clark Kent?

As if...

I don't know why the man hasn't worked more, probably because he's got a new wife he likes to spend time with on his vacations.

However, I wish he would just so he could finally put to rest all the "Welling can't act" bs that people seem to spew at the slightest excuse.

The man can act and he does it very well.

Please refer to his performance in the Smallville episode Transference where he wasn't playing Clark at all, but Lionel, and did a ****ing brilliant job.



'Nough said about that.




It's over and done with and you Routh fans shouldn't react to newbs either too dumb to know it's a fruitless endeavour to bring up casting in here or too trollish that they're just trying to stir things up.

Either way, people from now on should ignore those kinds of posts in here. It only opens up a lot of old wounds...

[1985evs]

Whos Brandon Roth

[The Incredible Hulk]

He's curvy where it counts.... :up:

[darkzombiemutt]

Im hoping to see Routh get the familiarity of Reeve's Kent and Superman, but with a new take. Like you know him, but its new.

[triplet]

He's curvy where it counts.... :up:

http://img17.exs.cx/img17/4816/bjcurvy1zl.jpg

[green]

I doubt he'll impersonate Reeve's Clark Kent, considering that Reeve played him a bit over the top and it seems that this film won't be campy like the past ones. If anything I bet we'll see a more mild-mannered Clark Kent instead of the bumbler, but we'll probably see a shy and soft spoken CK, which is a couple of the characteristics I see in CK. [QUOTE/]

I hope so. Im not sure why people are worried about a camp factor with this movie? Just cause Singer is using the first two as vague history (whatever that term implies ) doesnt mean he's going to use that element of them. He's never made a campy movie before, if anything he went out of his way to avoid it in the X-Men movies, listen to the commentary of them and he expresses this.

[QUOTE]Superman, I'm not sure. How different can Routh's be? Reeve was pretty dead on.

But there's always room for improvement. ;)

[SHAZAM!]

Speak for yourself, but you're not helping things but bringing this **** up again.

It'll just keep goin' round and round, with no end in site.

I didn't know, I haven't visited here that much. I don't know what's going on in this forum.

I think I'm the only one who hasn't responded to Routh as Superman. I just wanted to say my piece and be done with it. I didn't mean to bring up whatever I brought up.

All I wanted to say is I hate the fact that Routh is playing Superman. And I wanted Welling as Superman. That's all. Why did everyone thrash me for stating my opinion? I actually thought things would've changed by now, but I was wrong.

[Zo Knows]

All I wanted to say is I hate the fact that Routh is playing Superman. And I wanted Welling as Superman. That's all. Why did everyone thrash me for stating my opinion? I actually thought things would've changed by now, but I was wrong.

I personally don't understand your logic...You assumed that, given some time, more people would start to be more receptive to the idea of Welling in the role that Routh won than they were BEFORE Routh won it? Particularly given the fact that subsequent exposure to Routh in the Cold Case clips, various manips, and insider reports have been nothing but encouraging?

I don't see why people WOULDN'T get fed up with self-righteous "fans" claiming they will boycott the movie because their choice isn't the star. Please, people, a physically-appropriate actor with a respect for the character is not going to hurt this movie in the SLIGHTEST. It's just asinine narrow-mindedness why some people REFUSE to accept another actor in the role when they cannot even make a compelling argument for WHY Tom Welling should be Superman. Because he already plays a young version of the character on a TV show? There is nothing definitive or benchmark about Welling's portrayal OR the show in general, nor is there any reason why the show should be connected to the movie. Sure they've done some things well and different, but that is at LEAST balanced by the mistakes and cliches. Besides, no reason to disrespect the Superman character to the point of making him a TV-spinoff character.

Smallville and Tom Welling have no bearing on Bryan Singer's Superman. Least of all in terms of ticket sales. People will go see the movie in droves so long as it 1.) has a compelling story, and 2.) is entertaining. I'd go so far as to make a blind bet that it will succeed in both those areas.

If you want to see SHAZAM!'s Superman, or if I want to see Zo's Superman, or if Joey Finkleberry wants to see Joey Finkleberry's Superman, then I encourage you (or me or Joey) to pursue screenwriting, filmmaking, comic book writing, etc. and translate your vision. Exorcise the demons. If you want to see a modern, differentiated and entertaining take on Clark Kent as a teenager, go enjoy Smallville. I know I do. And if you want to see a professional and respected filmmaking team's take on Superman and be entertained, then wait a year and a half and go watch that big beautiful red S on Brandon Routh's chest fade in on a bigass ole screen. I know I will.

Simple. :)

[triplet]

I didn't know, I haven't visited here that much. I don't know what's going on in this forum.

Sorry I was so harsh, then, but you coulda guessed. There was a lot of fighting in regards to casting this past summer and I also had thought that things would have cleared up, but emotions are still raw....

It's just best not to bring any casting controversy issues up in here at all... Just an FYI.


I think I'm the only one who hasn't responded to Routh as Superman.

You're not, but if you like Welling you might want to try this forum (http://www.superherohype.com/forums/forumdisplay.php?f=161) instead.

You'll find you have a lot more in common with the folks over there. Trust me.




I just wanted to say my piece and be done with it. I didn't mean to bring up whatever I brought up.

All I wanted to say is I hate the fact that Routh is playing Superman. And I wanted Welling as Superman. That's all. Why did everyone thrash me for stating my opinion? I actually thought things would've changed by now, but I was wrong.

Tempers are still short despite the fact that lensing starts in a month, I have my own theories on why that is, but again it's best not to bring up other potential actors in Routh's thread, if you can help it.

I will sometimes debate still, but it depends on the sitch and who I'd be debating with....

[The Sage]

I personally don't understand your logic...You assumed that, given some time, more people would start to be more receptive to the idea of Welling in the role that Routh won than they were BEFORE Routh won it? Particularly given the fact that subsequent exposure to Routh in the Cold Case clips, various manips, and insider reports have been nothing but encouraging?

I don't see why people WOULDN'T get fed up with self-righteous "fans" claiming they will boycott the movie because their choice isn't the star. Please, people, a physically-appropriate actor with a respect for the character is not going to hurt this movie in the SLIGHTEST. It's just asinine narrow-mindedness why some people REFUSE to accept another actor in the role when they cannot even make a compelling argument for WHY Tom Welling should be Superman. Because he already plays a young version of the character on a TV show? There is nothing definitive or benchmark about Welling's portrayal OR the show in general, nor is there any reason why the show should be connected to the movie. Sure they've done some things well and different, but that is at LEAST balanced by the mistakes and cliches. Besides, no reason to disrespect the Superman character to the point of making him a TV-spinoff character.

Smallville and Tom Welling have no bearing on Bryan Singer's Superman. Least of all in terms of ticket sales. People will go see the movie in droves so long as it 1.) has a compelling story, and 2.) is entertaining. I'd go so far as to make a blind bet that it will succeed in both those areas.

If you want to see SHAZAM!'s Superman, or if I want to see Zo's Superman, or if Joey Finkleberry wants to see Joey Finkleberry's Superman, then I encourage you (or me or Joey) to pursue screenwriting, filmmaking, comic book writing, etc. and translate your vision. Exorcise the demons. If you want to see a modern, differentiated and entertaining take on Clark Kent as a teenager, go enjoy Smallville. I know I do. And if you want to see a professional and respected filmmaking team's take on Superman and be entertained, then wait a year and a half and go watch that big beautiful red S on Brandon Routh's chest fade in on a bigass ole screen. I know I will.

Simple. :)

Great post.

[superfever]

The new movie is going to break box office records like never before, 20 years since the last movie! i know for a fact, every person on the planet will watch this movie!
Forget Spiderman, Superman is the biggest superhero ever! and that is fact!
:up: i really hope to see this happening.

btw, some of the fans here make me wonder... do they want a superman movie or a TW movie actually? it's simply sad to an example like shazam.

[superfever]

What's wrong with you?

Who said that the only thing Welling fans could see Welling as is Clark Kent?

As if...

I don't know why the man hasn't worked more, probably because he's got a new wife he likes to spend time with on his vacations.

However, I wish he would just so he could finally put to rest all the "Welling can't act" bs that people seem to spew at the slightest excuse.

The man can act and he does it very well.

Please refer to his performance in the Smallville episode Transference where he wasn't playing Clark at all, but Lionel, and did a ****ing brilliant job.



'Nough said about that.




It's over and done with and you Routh fans shouldn't react to newbs either too dumb to know it's a fruitless endeavour to bring up casting in here or too trollish that they're just trying to stir things up.

Either way, people from now on should ignore those kinds of posts in here. It only opens up a lot of old wounds...

then, why still crying out loud for not giving the role to TW? half a year not enough??? want to whine for more??? if you fan can see him beyond clark kent and believe him as a good actor, you don't think he can make his way through and success in the acting industry??? maybe he can play james bond, perhaps other superhero or action hero or some roles that requires critical acting skill. why just for superman when it's already a done deal. pls, TW can do more than just a farmboy!!!

[triplet]

then, why still crying out loud for not giving the role to TW? half a year not enough??? want to whine for more??? if you fan can see him beyond clark kent and believe him as a good actor, you don't think he can make his way through and success in the acting industry??? maybe he can play james bond, perhaps other superhero or action hero or some roles that requires critical acting skill. why just for superman when it's already a done deal. pls, TW can do more than just a farmboy!!!

Did you actually read my post?

Going by what you've said, I'm guessing not.

:rolleyes:

[superfever]

well, perhaps i'm not refering you. ;)

[triplet]

well, perhaps i'm not refering you. ;)

Then why did you quote my post?

That was the biggest clue I had that you were talking about what I said.

[superfever]

hmmm... cause there is a 'quote' button below. :D

[triplet]

hmmm... cause there is a 'quote' button below. :D

LOL!

I can't tell if you're really joking or not, but the quote button is when you want to refer to a specific post in your reply.

If you want to reply without quoting, hit the "quick reply" button instead (it's the button with the quill and the little piece of paper).

[superfever]

thanks.
btw, tripet, do you think you can get a more macho looking of TW as your avatar? the current one looks too boyish beautiful.

[triplet]

thanks.
btw, tripet, do you think you can get a more macho looking of TW as your avatar? the current one looks too boyish beautiful.

I'll see what I can do... :D :up:

[Ruthmarks]

I'll see what I can do... :D :up:

You need Agent Pat's old avatar where Welling is wearing a wet, white T-shirt that's clinging to his chest and abs as the camera just wanders over it ... ;)

Anyway, back to the topic:

Am I the only one who really wants to see Routh flexing his muscles with his shirt off after Batgirl's description? It really does sound like he's been hitting the weights hard. :)

[green]

Am I the only one who really wants to see Routh flexing his muscles with his shirt off after Batgirl's description? It really does sound like he's been hitting the weights hard. :)


Dare I say, you are not alone. ;)

[triplet]

You need Agent Pat's old avatar where Welling is wearing a wet, white T-shirt that's clinging to his chest and abs as the camera just wanders over it ... ;)

Actually, I think I downloaded that file! LOL! What a great bod. Yummy.



Anyway, back to the topic:

Am I the only one who really wants to see Routh flexing his muscles with his shirt off after Batgirl's description? It really does sound like he's been hitting the weights hard. :)

Mmmmm.... I guess we'll see.

[triplet]

thanks.
btw, tripet, do you think you can get a more macho looking of TW as your avatar? the current one looks too boyish beautiful.

Ok, I changed it, not that I think boyishly beautiful is a bad thing...


;)

[superfever]

not that i'm nitpicking... he looks like demi moore's boy friend now. :( perhaps the 'wet white t-shirt' is better.

[triplet]

not that i'm nitpicking... he looks like demi moore's boy friend now. :( perhaps the 'wet white t-shirt' is better.

Ashton Kutcher?

Mmmm... no.

I guess you can't please everyone, right?

LOL!

[superfever]

no? well...

[<borkis>]

Better. :p

ok, wait... Sage, I can understand how you didn't agree with the
previous comparison between Routh and Welling due to the fact
that the poster chose a weak Welling photo.

But you can't honestly say that this photo is a better likeness of TW
and therefore more acurately depicts what Welling would have looked
like in the super-suit.

In this photo, TW has undergone such extensive manipulation that it
looks more like Christopher Reeve than it does like himself. If anything,
this is the 'worst' photo you could choose to show as TW because
it is so misleading. He'll never look like that no matter how much he
works out. Unless of course the entire budget is going towards
reconstructing the size and shape of TW's head to make him look more
like Superman.

Anyhow, TW ain't superman, he never will be, c'est la vie.

[Thunder Emperor]

"funny, lets see where Routh career goes after superman. let me think hmmm ... wait nowhere"

HAHA At least Routh will be immortilised as the Superman of the new generation forever! unlike Welling! a tv show star,

Routh will be the big screen Supes,
just like everyone sees Reeve as the Ultimate Superman,
the new generation will view Routh the same!

is it that bad to be known as superman? In my mind, Reeve WAS a Superman, on screen and off screen,
and Routh will also be one in years to come,

The new movie is going to break box office records like never before, 20 years since the last movie! i know for a fact, every person on the planet will watch this movie!
Forget Spiderman, Superman is the biggest superhero ever! and that is fact!



fact this movie won't beat spiderman. it just has too much going against it

fact Routh will never be immortalized as superman, not when reeve passed away less than a year and half of the movies premire.

fact Routh will never be in the same league as Reeve

Fact Routh's acting career ends with superman.for the simple reason as did reeve's. :D

[Saint]

I love it when people pretend that their personal theories are "fact."

[Thunder Emperor]

I love it when people pretend that their personal theories are "fact."


funny but you know all i just stated will be true

i really don't see the movie making more than spiderman. it just doesn't sound like it will specailly with all the synopsis we have been hearing.

also routh will never be immortalized as superman, no one except reeve will be for a very long time

as for his acting career. he doesn't come off as an a list caliber actor that can differeniate roles. heck like i siad even reeve was not able to pull that off, as with everyone esle that follows :batman:

[Saint]

funny but you know all i just stated will be true

i really don't see the movie making more than spiderman. it just doesn't sound like it will specailly with all the synopsis we have been hearing.

also routh will never be immortalized as superman, no one except reeve will be for a very long time

as for his acting career. he doesn't come off as an a list caliber actor that can differeniate roles. heck like i siad even reeve was not able to pull that off, as with everyone esle that follows :batman:
That's great. Unfortunately, restating your opinions in longer sentences still does not validate them as fact. Don't get me wrong--I don't like Routh that much either, but I'm open to the possibility that I may be wrong, and I'm not going to conjure up poorly thought-out opinions and pass them off as fact.

[superfever]

fact this movie won't beat spiderman. it just has too much going against it

fact Routh will never be immortalized as superman, not when reeve passed away less than a year and half of the movies premire.

fact Routh will never be in the same league as Reeve

Fact Routh's acting career ends with superman.for the simple reason as did reeve's. :D

did routh just kill your mother?
i believe you not gonna enjoy the next superman movie...
sad... plain sad. what is happening to you? so much hatre...

we are not asking you to be routh's fan and as a matter of fact, we are not his fan, at least not yet. but as a fan of superman, we do hope him can succeed, we do hope that he can perform as well as reeve and make the people believe again, in 'goodness', we do hope that the movie can truimph in the big screen...
but you... just waiting and wishing the movie to fail... what is inside your head... just because your lovely doll didn't get the role and you want superman to fail...
you make me really upset...

[johnsonuk]

fact this movie won't beat spiderman. it just has too much going against it

fact Routh will never be immortalized as superman, not when reeve passed away less than a year and half of the movies premire.

fact Routh will never be in the same league as Reeve

Fact Routh's acting career ends with superman.for the simple reason as did reeve's. :D
FACT......you have no idea what is going to happen.....FACT.
try seeing the film first and then by all means slate it to death.

[Ruthmarks]

Dare I say, you are not alone. ;)

There ain't nothing like an athletic, muscular young guy without his shirt on, is there?

Or should I say, ripping his shirt open. ;) :p

[StarvingArtist]

Damn, these boards used to be cheeky and fun...now they're just cruel and tragic.....

[The Sage]

fact this movie won't beat spiderman. it just has too much going against it

fact Routh will never be immortalized as superman, not when reeve passed away less than a year and half of the movies premire.

fact Routh will never be in the same league as Reeve

Fact Routh's acting career ends with superman.for the simple reason as did reeve's. :D

What a bitter man...

[Phlashman]

Fact Routh's acting career ends with superman.for the simple reason as did reeve's. :D

FACT: After Superman Reeve was offered Loads of big roles. Total Recall, The Running Man, Romancing the Stone, Hannibal, Body Heat, The Bounty and American Gigolo where all big films he got asked to do but turned them down.

I don't think typecasting is an issue anymore.

[The Sage]

FACT: After Superman Reeve was offered Loads of big roles. Total Recall, The Running Man, Romancing the Stone, Hannibal, Body Heat, The Bounty and American Gigolo where all big films he got asked to do but turned them down.

I don't think typecasting is an issue anymore.

I knew he was offered Recall, but I didn't know about the others. Does this mean that Reeve's career didn't last long because of typecasting, or because of his own decisions?

[lazur]

I knew he was offered Recall, but I didn't know about the others. Does this mean that Reeve's career didn't last long because of typecasting, or because of his own decisions?

Well, since he was the one who turned the roles down, I'd imagine he contributed to the outcome of his own career, no?

http://www.imdb.com/name/nm0001659/bio

Check out the link for his biography at IMDB.

[C. Lee]

Some people aspire to be great "actors"...not just a movie star.

[Puckenstein]

I could totally see Reeve in Total Recall and The Running Man.

[darkzombiemutt]

Damn, these boards used to be cheeky and fun...now they're just cruel and tragic.....

Cheeky and fun? I must have missed that memo.

[darkzombiemutt]

Reeve wanted to be in roles opposite of anything like Superman. He wanted to do strange films in fear of typecasting. He later admitted that maybe it was a mistake on his part that he had such an adverse reaction to the types of roles he was offered after Superman.

[Thunder Emperor]

What a bitter man...


so you think... :D

[Thunder Emperor]

That's great. Unfortunately, restating your opinions in longer sentences still does not validate them as fact. Don't get me wrong--I don't like Routh that much either, but I'm open to the possibility that I may be wrong, and I'm not going to conjure up poorly thought-out opinions and pass them off as fact.


you think they are poor thoughts of opinon, no need for you all to get worked up about it. 2006 will state it clearly for all to see. so please don't cry over a non issue :D

[Antonello Blueberry]

Infact he accepted parts that were so distant from the handsom hero.
See "Noises off" or Deathtrap.
Btw, for the "Nine degrees of Superheroes" Reeve worked in those movies with Michael Caine (Alfred in Batman Begins) in those movies. And with Michael Keaton in Speechless.

[Lone]

fact this movie won't beat spiderman. it just has too much going against it

fact Routh will never be immortalized as superman, not when reeve passed away less than a year and half of the movies premire.

fact Routh will never be in the same league as Reeve

Fact Routh's acting career ends with superman.for the simple reason as did reeve's. :D

Fact - Welling will be forgotten by the masses as soon as Smallville ends

Fact - You get dumber with every post

Fact - You're not a Superman fan if you're hoping this movie will bomb

Fact - You like Welling's man-meat

[The Incredible Hulk]

Fact - people who answer stupid posts with even stupider ones, look worse than the original poster.... :up:


In other news:
We should all hope this movie does well for Superman's sake above all else. Even though I find myself having doubts, I still hope it scores well. The character has been shat upon for long enough, a popular move along with an already popular TV series would be welcomed

[Thunder Emperor]

Fact - Welling will be forgotten by the masses as soon as Smallville ends

Fact - You get dumber with every post

Fact - You're not a Superman fan if you're hoping this movie will bomb

Fact - You like Welling's man-meat



fact is this is just a dumb post,and you are dumb to post such a reply :D

fact if you read my original post I said this movie will not surpass the original spider, i never said it would bomb in the box office. those are two different statements.

the last stetment I won't even comment. its like me say i t hink Routh is sucking of Singer, so please don't insult me.



final fact I don't need to prove my love for the character to you or anyone else.

[Thunder Emperor]

non of these are facts except the the fact he won't match Reeve as superman as the fanboy's wont let him.


that is true and that was what i was relating to


but the is also the fact that from what we have been hearing about the script. it will make lots of money but it will be hard to beat spiderman.

[Hunter Rider]

fact this movie won't beat spiderman. it just has too much going against it

fact Routh will never be immortalized as superman, not when reeve passed away less than a year and half of the movies premire.

fact Routh will never be in the same league as Reeve

Fact Routh's acting career ends with superman.for the simple reason as did reeve's. http://www.superherohype.com/forums/images/smilies/biggrin.gif

non of these are facts except the the fact he won't match Reeve as superman as the fanboy's wont let him.

[Hunter Rider]

that is true and that was what i was relating to


but the is also the fact that from what we have been hearing about the script. it will make lots of money but it will be hard to beat spiderman.

I agree money-wise it will struggle to beat Spidey but it could still be a better movie

[Crazymaverick]

You know, I hate to perpetuate another Welling rant, but how the hell can anyone go so far as to say Routh looks NOTHING like Superman and say Welling does? Welling doesn't have a square jaw, his nose is wide with constantly flaring nostrils, and his lips are ginormous. Superman.....doesn't.....look.....like....that. Period. He has in general hardly ever been drawn with any of those features let alone all of those features together. Sure an artist here and there may have put their personal stamp on their rendering of Superman by giving him whatever feature; but all around, Superman has thinner lips, a big square jaw, and a smallish nose sans raging bull nostrils. They chose Welling because he has a boyish face and would attract female fans because Smallville is Dawson's Creek but with Superman. Not because he was the spitting image of Superman per se. Routh's Jaw is huge, his nostrils aren't gaping, and his lips aren't nearly as Jolie as Wellings. Welling could very well be "an interpretation" of superman (he's not even superman, if anything he's the equivalent of superboy) but that's it. Routh fits that generic Superman look so much more, not to mention his voice is a hell of a lot deeper then Wellings.


Hear! Hear!

[The Sage]

Some people aspire to be great "actors"...not just a movie star.

Very true.

[Thunder Emperor]

keep ranting starvingartist, just keep ranting.

[Puckenstein]

You know, I hate to perpetuate another Welling rant, but how the hell can anyone go so far as to say Routh looks NOTHING like Superman and say Welling does? Welling doesn't have a square jaw, his nose is wide with constantly flaring nostrils, and his lips are ginormous. Superman.....doesn't.....look.....like....that. Period. He has in general hardly ever been drawn with any of those features let alone all of those features together. Sure an artist here and there may have put their personal stamp on their rendering of Superman by giving him whatever feature; but all around, Superman has thinner lips, a big square jaw, and a smallish nose sans raging bull nostrils. They chose Welling because he has a boyish face and would attract female fans because Smallville is Dawson's Creek but with Superman. Not because he was the spitting image of Superman per se. Routh's Jaw is huge, his nostrils aren't gaping, and his lips aren't nearly as Jolie as Wellings. Welling could very well be "an interpretation" of superman (he's not even superman, if anything he's the equivalent of superboy) but that's it. Routh fits that generic Superman look so much more, not to mention his voice is a hell of a lot deeper then Wellings.

Ok, I'm not a huge Schmelling fan, but I have to address some of your points. You're right - many times Schmellign doesn't look like Superman. He does have features which aren't traditionally drawn on Superman (I stress drawn, because that's what Superman is - a drawing - how can anyone look identical to a sketch of a fictional character?)

But Routh is in the same boat. Routh doesn't look exactly like Superman either, from the pictures we've seen. You see, that's where costume designers, trainers, makeup and artists come into play.

Routh is putting on pounds of muscle to make him have more of Superman's physique. I'm sure he'll meet up with a hair stylist at some point which will crop that mane of his and give him the signature curl.

Bottom line - BOTH Routh and Welling need changes made to themselves physically in order to look more like Superman. You can argue all day long that Welling doesn't look like Superman, but at the end of the day, neither does Routh until they are groomed. If you put them in the proper attire, with the proper physique and the proper style, they BOTH look like Superman.

http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v221/puck420/welling2.jpg

[The Sage]

keep ranting starvingartist, just keep ranting.

Please do, as we need someone to counterbalance your ranting. ;):p

[gdw]

I agree with you mostly SA, but it's interesting that you described Superman as 'Thin lipped and small nosed' Add his squintyish eyes in there and it's everything Rouith is not actually, lol.

Just playing devils advocate here for fun

The square jaw mind you definatly.
But Routh has still big lips, especially his lower one, and a big nose and very wide eyed, Superman is not wide eyed.

But he does look more like Superman then Welling. It is only because Welling has become accepted so much by being on Smallville for so long. If they had cast Routh on Smallville then he would be far more accepted as well. I remember when I first saw the pic of Routh when he was cast I though 'I could see him being cast in Smallville too' but we got Welling there, and he suits the role and we have just grown acustom to his face, hehe.

But he is not Superman. Although I'm sure he could be made to look alot older, he would still not look as good as Superman, IMO, and he most definately could not pull it off acting wise. Although his acting has improved andprobably will continue to he is not that great.

I don't know how good or bad Routh is mind you, but I DO know that Welling is not good enough.

[Thunder Emperor]

Ok, I'm not a huge Schmelling fan, but I have to address some of your points. You're right - many times Schmellign doesn't look like Superman. He does have features which aren't traditionally drawn on Superman (I stress drawn, because that's what Superman is - a drawing - how can anyone look identical to a sketch of a fictional character?)

But Routh is in the same boat. Routh doesn't look exactly like Superman either, from the pictures we've seen. You see, that's where costume designers, trainers, makeup and artists come into play.

Routh is putting on pounds of muscle to make him have more of Superman's physique. I'm sure he'll meet up with a hair stylist at some point which will crop that mane of his and give him the signature curl.

Bottom line - BOTH Routh and Welling need changes made to themselves physically in order to look more like Superman. You can argue all day long that Welling doesn't look like Superman, but at the end of the day, neither does Routh until they are groomed. If you put them in the proper attire, with the proper physique and the proper style, they BOTH look like Superman.

http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v221/puck420/welling2.jpg


thank you for a clear post there.

[Thunder Emperor]

Please do, as we need someone to counterbalance your ranting. ;):p



hey he is straving and needs a job. so i say he should go for it.

Goi starvingartist, go and keep ranting...

[Thunder Emperor]

I agree with you mostly SA, but it's interesting that you described Superman as 'Thin lipped and small nosed' Add his squintyish eyes in there and it's everything Rouith is not actually, lol.

Just playing devils advocate here for fun

The square jaw mind you definatly.
But Routh has still big lips, especially his lower one, and a big nose and very wide eyed, Superman is not wide eyed.

But he does look more like Superman then Welling. It is only because Welling has become accepted so much by being on Smallville for so long. If they had cast Routh on Smallville then he would be far more accepted as well. I remember when I first saw the pic of Routh when he was cast I though 'I could see him being cast in Smallville too' but we got Welling there, and he suits the role and we have just grown acustom to his face, hehe.

But he is not Superman. Although I'm sure he could be made to look alot older, he would still not look as good as Superman, IMO, and he most definately could not pull it off acting wise. Although his acting has improved andprobably will continue to he is not that great.

I don't know how good or bad Routh is mind you, but I DO know that Welling is not good enough.


its all a matter of opion. inmy view routh looks tomuch like reeve and les like superman.but that is an opinon. in the end we will see how Routh copes with all the pressure. and all thsoe stupid routh fan, can please shu up. they have never seent he guy act in anything concrete. so no one know how well he will pull it off, and also since he has no experince. all we can say is that his credit rating as an actor is 1.

[Crazymaverick]

I agree with you mostly SA, but it's interesting that you described Superman as 'Thin lipped and small nosed' Add his squintyish eyes in there and it's everything Rouith is not actually, lol.

Just playing devils advocate here for fun

The square jaw mind you definatly.
But Routh has still big lips, especially his lower one, and a big nose and very wide eyed, Superman is not wide eyed.

But he does look more like Superman then Welling. It is only because Welling has become accepted so much by being on Smallville for so long. If they had cast Routh on Smallville then he would be far more accepted as well. I remember when I first saw the pic of Routh when he was cast I though 'I could see him being cast in Smallville too' but we got Welling there, and he suits the role and we have just grown acustom to his face, hehe.

But he is not Superman. Although I'm sure he could be made to look alot older, he would still not look as good as Superman, IMO, and he most definately could not pull it off acting wise. Although his acting has improved andprobably will continue to he is not that great.

I don't know how good or bad Routh is mind you, but I DO know that Welling is not good enough.

Well put, and BTW kudos on the new Superman art! :)

[StarvingArtist]

Cheeky and fun? I must have missed that memo.

I was referencing supertroopers

[Zo Knows]

we are not asking you to be routh's fan and as a matter of fact, we are not his fan, at least not yet. but as a fan of superman, we do hope him can succeed, we do hope that he can perform as well as reeve and make the people believe again, in 'goodness', we do hope that the movie can truimph in the big screen...

Well done. :up:

Nobody thinks Routh is a great actor. I mean, come on, it's not like anyone was petitioning the guy for the role, much less had anyone even heard of him before. It's impossible to judge his acting, because we haven't seen him deliver more than, what, 10 lines of dialogue? However, we all just want to give him a chance to prove himself before writing him off, simply because he IS in the role, it's his, no questions about it, and just by that fact, he's key to the movie's success. And ultimately, we'd all like to see this movie break every kind of record (which no one can say it won't, seeing as we have NO reliable info...not even a correct WB press release!...on the film's content yet). Why do we all want to jump on the bandwagon? Not because anyone thinks Singer is the second coming of Orson Welles or Stanley Kubrick...But because - dammit - the public needs a good dose of Superman again! It's been long enough!

I ask you, all the people who complain about "narrow-mindedness" in this forum...Is that so wrong?

[Ruthmarks]

Well done. :up:

Nobody thinks Routh is a great actor. I mean, come on, it's not like anyone was petitioning the guy for the role, much less had anyone even heard of him before. It's impossible to judge his acting, because we haven't seen him deliver more than, what, 10 lines of dialogue? However, we all just want to give him a chance to prove himself before writing him off, simply because he IS in the role, it's his, no questions about it, and just by that fact, he's key to the movie's success. And ultimately, we'd all like to see this movie break every kind of record (which no one can say it won't, seeing as we have NO reliable info...not even a correct WB press release!...on the film's content yet). Why do we all want to jump on the bandwagon? Not because anyone thinks Singer is the second coming of Orson Welles or Stanley Kubrick...But because - dammit - the public needs a good dose of Superman again! It's been long enough!

I ask you, all the people who complain about "narrow-mindedness" in this forum...Is that so wrong?

I agree with you completely, Zo.

Unfortunately, the people taking a consistently negative view towards the film aren't going to see it that way. Usually it's because (a) they didn't get their choice for Superman and will complain bitterly until the film is released, or (b) from what little they've heard, these people are convinced that the movie is going to be a disaster. Anyone who suggests that it's best to wait, or that the people who are consistently griping about the movie are simply being pessimistic to the point of headache-inducing repitition, is called "narrow minded" or told to "shut up." On the flip side, there's also been a lot of Tom Welling bashing going around, when quite honestly it's a dead subject and shouldn't be used to start flame wars in this thread (that goes for all parties on both sides).

Look, I have no idea what this movie is going to be like. I know that I love the original "Superman: The Movie." I love the character. And he's been out of sight for too long. I'm staying positive that the movie will be a fun and sweeping moviegoing experience that will hopefully make us all feel like kids again, even if it's just for two hours.

As Zo says, there's nothing wrong with that.

Keep your collective chins up. Singer is a good director, and his writers are quite capable.

As for Brandon Routh -- again, there's no way of telling what he'll be like. We've heard that he loves the character (Spacey), that he's been working out like a demon and has a ripped body (Batgirl), and that he gave a great series of auditions. Again, I'm going to do the smart thing here -- and I guess it comes down to three little words:

Wait and see.

If the movie comes out and you hate it, then you can let loose with all the cannons firing. But until then, give it a rest.

[Saint]

I'll certainly agree that there is a lot of narrow-mindedness on these boards--from both camps. A chunk of the Routh supporters have already branded him as the ultimate Superman of all-time, and those against him constantly conjure up thin reasons as to why he'll be the lamest person to ever be on screen in the history of the universe.

That said, what drives me nuts is that the negative people treat the positive people like sheep, and the positive people treat the negative people like trolls. You know--and this might come as a shock--both camps have valid points, so everybody needs to quit moaning about it. Debate is fine, but in here it always degenerates into mud-slinging.

[The Singularity]

A chunk of the Routh supporters have already branded him as the ultimate Superman of all-time

You mean like Bale being the ultimate Batman of all time...

http://mysite.wanadoo-members.co.uk/singularitygroup/images/8-picture2.gif?0.6331824676317747

[Stephen K. Hone]

fact this movie won't beat spiderman. it just has too much going against it

fact Routh will never be immortalized as superman, not when reeve passed away less than a year and half of the movies premire.

fact Routh will never be in the same league as Reeve

Fact Routh's acting career ends with superman.for the simple reason as did reeve's. :D




FACT! Everything you have stated as FACT, is in FACT opinion. Hypothosis, Theory, prediction, A hunch, An Educated guess, Pure speculation, YES!.... BUT IT IS NOT FACT! ;)

[Thunder Emperor]

FACT! Everything you have stated as FACT, is in FACT opinion. Hypothosis, Theory, prediction, A hunch, An Educated guess, Pure speculation, YES!.... BUT IT IS NOT FACT! ;)


specular that will be a fact, come 2006 :D

[Saint]

You mean like Bale being the ultimate Batman of all time...

http://mysite.wanadoo-members.co.uk/singularitygroup/images/8-picture2.gif?0.6331824676317747
No. There's a huge difference there, because Christian Bale is an experienced actor, whose acting can be viewed in a slew of roles and a slew of films. We've even seen him act in roles that are somewhat Batman-esque (John Preston, anyone?). Moreover, we've seen him as Bruce Wayne and as Batman in both pictures AND footage. You see, there is reasonable basis for people to make assumptions about Bale's performance.

Routh, however, has only been seen in old pictures and miniscule parts that provide little opportunity for him to demonstrate anything we can judge. As such, it's silly to say "Routh will kick ass" or "Routh will suck" because there's simply no information to base that on. With Christian Bale, that is not the case.

And in any case, I don't see how the bat-fan opinion of Christian Bale has anything to do with the Super-fan opinion of Routh.

[Lone]

Fact - people who answer stupid posts with even stupider ones, look worse than the original poster.... :up:

Wow! Fortune cookie wisdom!! :eek: So that makes you the biggest idiot for replying to my post? :confused: :up:


In other news:
We should all hope this movie does well for Superman's sake above all else. Even though I find myself having doubts, I still hope it scores well. The character has been shat upon for long enough, a popular move along with an already popular TV series would be welcomed

Like I said:

You're not a Superman fan if you're hoping this movie will fail just because your choice actor didn't get the role.

[Lone]

fact is this is just a dumb post,and you are dumb to post such a reply :D

You're admitting your own stupidity...that's progress. :up:

fact if you read my original post I said this movie will not surpass the original spider, i never said it would bomb in the box office. those are two different statements.

You've been saying this movie would bomb ever since you registered.

the last stetment I won't even comment. its like me say i t hink Routh is sucking of Singer, so please don't insult me.

You have insinuated that on previous occasions.

final fact I don't need to prove my love for the character to you or anyone else.

Yeah...you can't anyway.

[Thunder Emperor]

You're admitting your own stupidity...that's progress. :up:



You've been saying this movie would bomb ever since you registered.



You have insinuated that on previous occasions.



Yeah...you can't anyway.


i always said, that i don't think this movie will do to welll as expected, never said it will bomb. like i siad two different things are never the same.


also it wasn't my statement that was stupid.it was your dumb reply ;)



who theh ell are you to open your mouth and expect me to prove anything to your lame ass.

[The Sage]

i always said, that i don't think this movie will do to welll as expected, never said it will bomb. like i siad two different things are never the same.


But you do hope it does...

[Lone]

i always said, that i don't think this movie will do to welll as expected, never said it will bomb. like i siad two different things are never the same.


also it wasn't my statement that was stupid.it was your dumb reply http://www.superherohype.com/forums/images/smilies/wink.gif

What was your statement again?

fact this movie won't beat spiderman. it just has too much going against it

fact Routh will never be immortalized as superman, not when reeve passed away less than a year and half of the movies premire.

fact Routh will never be in the same league as Reeve

Fact Routh's acting career ends with superman.for the simple reason as did reeve's. http://www.superherohype.com/forums/images/smilies/biggrin.gif


Spouting that crap from your Welling-worshipping mind and saying it as a fact ranks pretty high on the stupidity list.

And as a joke, it's not even funny.

Hell, you're a bigger joke than that.


who theh ell are you to open your mouth and expect me to prove anything to your lame ass.

I think it's safe to say that anyone who hopes this movie fails sure as hell ain't a fan of the character.

Remember the times you PMed me? Remember all the advice I gave you? Judging from your posts, I think not. Ever the delusional dumbass.

Well, look at it this way, at least all your idiotic rants are making you spell better.



























Not really. And I'm dropping this before this thread gets killed.

[Superman4ever]

I hate the idea of Routh, and I cringed at the idea of Welling (Thank G-d we dodged that bullet, among many others…Smallvillians need to face the fact that he’s a crap actor), but I've decided to put my feelings aside and SUPPORT THE HELL out of this movie. This is SUPERMAN, not a movie about Routh [or another name you please] and it's about a character I LOVE, and have done so unrelentingly since I was three. Yeah, Spider-man was OK, so were the X-men and Batman, but they all PALE in comparison to my Superman - always and forever! I know this movie will score HUGE, it’s Superman! He's etched in the worlds' consciousness, unlike any other. June 30, 2006...a man with clouds between his knees…It’s about time! I say bring of the X-men or any other would be stooge, just bring it.


We have great actors, a determined production company and a studio that’s been wanting this time in history for a long time!

[ohmshalone]

Passing by and thought I'd mention something you guys might be interested in....

I showed a girl (who obviously isn't a comix-nut, but like everyone else in the world, she has a sub-conscious idea of what the general superman looks like) the pic of brandon routh standing against that grey wall (in the official press release on this website). She replied, "Woah! If Superman was real, that's what he'd look like."

So I think that's a VERY good sign of the public's reaction to routh. Let me know what you think :supes:

EDIT: sorry, if I can truly recall the quote, it was "that's REALLY what he'd look like"

[The Sage]

Nice. :up:

[Lara]

I can't believe everyone is still arguing about Welling sigh......

[King Krypton]

Passing by and thought I'd mention something you guys might be interested in....

I showed a girl (who obviously isn't a comix-nut, but like everyone else in the world, she has a sub-conscious idea of what the general superman looks like) the pic of brandon routh standing against that grey wall (in the official press release on this website). She replied, "Woah! If Superman was real, that's what he'd look like."

Bulls-eye. :up:

[superfever]

We should all hope this movie does well for Superman's sake above all else. Even though I find myself having doubts, I still hope it scores well. The character has been shat upon for long enough, a popular move along with an already popular TV series would be welcomed
:up: hope everyone will get this right.

[superfever]

Well done. :up:

Nobody thinks Routh is a great actor. I mean, come on, it's not like anyone was petitioning the guy for the role, much less had anyone even heard of him before. It's impossible to judge his acting, because we haven't seen him deliver more than, what, 10 lines of dialogue? However, we all just want to give him a chance to prove himself before writing him off, simply because he IS in the role, it's his, no questions about it, and just by that fact, he's key to the movie's success. And ultimately, we'd all like to see this movie break every kind of record (which no one can say it won't, seeing as we have NO reliable info...not even a correct WB press release!...on the film's content yet). Why do we all want to jump on the bandwagon? Not because anyone thinks Singer is the second coming of Orson Welles or Stanley Kubrick...But because - dammit - the public needs a good dose of Superman again! It's been long enough!

I ask you, all the people who complain about "narrow-mindedness" in this forum...Is that so wrong?
:up: hope everybody can understand it.

[superfever]

why can't a 26 plays 36 while a 28 can play 18? :D

[Ruthmarks]

Passing by and thought I'd mention something you guys might be interested in....

I showed a girl (who obviously isn't a comix-nut, but like everyone else in the world, she has a sub-conscious idea of what the general superman looks like) the pic of brandon routh standing against that grey wall (in the official press release on this website). She replied, "Woah! If Superman was real, that's what he'd look like."

And that picture was before he got ripped for the role ... :)

[superfever]

just feel like to putting it up here. :o
http://www.capedwonder.com/Chris_Reeve_shirt1.jpg

[superfever]

how well built routh should be?

[KAZUYA]

how well built routh should be?Should Routh be,,lol

I think close to this maybe a tad smaller,, I so dont want fake muscles :hulk:
http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v340/Kazzz/Manips/BATMANSUPERMANm.jpg

[Margomuljo]

Source: Maarten
February 13, 2005

'Maarten' says the Superman cast is starting to arrive for filming:

Got some information from the MX newspaper here in Melbourne, dated February 11th, and I thought you might be interested;

"US Actor Kate Bosworth, tipped to play Lois Lane in the new Superman flick, has flown into Sydney.

Filming is not due to start until next month so it seems Bosworth has some R&R planned."

Stay tuned for lots more on the production.

[patrickbateman]

i JUST SAW BRANDON IN THAT GILMORE GIRLS EPISODE HE WAS PLAYING ASHTON KUTCHER FROM DUDE WHERES MY CAR ? I TOLD MY MOM THAT'S SUPERMAN SHE WAS LIKE THE MOVIE IS DOOMED THIS MORRON CANT BE SUPES NO ONE CAN REPLACE CHRIS REEVES .

[Puckenstein]

Why does everyone feel the necessity to bring their mom's into it??? My mom says this, my mom says that...who gives a **** what your mom thinks?!

[patrickbateman]

I Told My Mom I Trust In Singer She Said In That Case U Can Wait Till Next Year

[Michael Corleone]

Why does everyone feel the necessity to bring their mom's into it??? My mom says this, my mom says that...who gives a **** what your mom thinks?!


Well keeping the whole mom thing out of it. I guess it could be a way that gerneration could view the film. I certainly have had mixed feelings from people that are in that age range. I could see some reluctance in accepting anyone other than Reeve in the role. But that is a problem that the film will face no matter what.

[patrickbateman]

Why does everyone feel the necessity to bring their mom's into it??? My mom says this, my mom says that...who gives a **** what your mom thinks?!


cause our moms represent the fans that made Chirs Reeve an icon , our moms were those females who went crazy for Reeve as superman. Hence its good to get reviews from the older generations escpecially if singer's superman is in touch with the original superman.

[Puckenstein]

Tell your mom to get over it.

[patrickbateman]

Tell your mom to get over it.

told her a long time ago when smallville started both she and dad we like this chick aint gonna be superman, when Bradon became superman they were like this guy is the love child of that pearl harbour guy + the nutcase from 70's show.

[superfever]

Should Routh be,,lol

I think close to this maybe a tad smaller,, I so dont want fake muscles :hulk:
http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v340/Kazzz/Manips/BATMANSUPERMANm.jpg

whose superman body is it?

[Murdough]

whose superman body is it?

Looks like a manip of a shot from that World's Finest trailer Collora did as a follow up to Batman: Dead End.

[superfever]

wow, that's the body builder champion!!! this is difficult to get into that size. i thought we don't need that 'BIG'.

[KAZUYA]

Ya hes big,, its a pic from comiccon.
I think hes too big there,, I could have made him smaller but I wanted to go for a TAS feeling.

[TheDarkRevenger]

I think everyone is dissing Routh WAY too much. I mean come on, It wasn't long ago everyone HATED the choice of Tobey Macguire for Spiderman for fear "He could pull off Peter Parker, But he can't pull off Spiderman himself". Just because he's a newcomer, doesn't mean he'll suck. Nobody even knew who Chris Reeve was in 1978, Now he's regarded one of the best actors in Hollywood history. Calm down and give the guy a chance. :supes:

[Phaser]

Not again...

[superfever]

btw, i want him to look BIG too as superman. :p

[Thunder Emperor]

this thread is not need, and all routhies should also stop their usless welling remakes. when the have no defense on issue with the movie.

[The Incredible Hulk]

Why does everyone feel the necessity to bring their mom's into it??? My mom says this, my mom says that...who gives a **** what your mom thinks?!


I thought Mom always knew best? :D

[Venom71]

this thread is not need, and all routhies should also stop their usless welling remakes. when the have no defense on issue with the movie.
HUH??? :confused:

[The Sage]

this thread is not need, and all routhies should also stop their usless welling remakes. when the have no defense on issue with the movie.

What are you talking about? :confused:

[Orko Is King]

this thread is not need, and all routhies should also stop their usless welling remakes. when the have no defense on issue with the movie.

Are you channeling bakeyboy? :confused:

[Thunder Emperor]

What are you talking about? :confused:


lol it was for the Stop Dissing Routh thread which was merged with this.

[Ruthmarks]

i JUST SAW BRANDON IN THAT GILMORE GIRLS EPISODE HE WAS PLAYING ASHTON KUTCHER FROM DUDE WHERES MY CAR ? I TOLD MY MOM THAT'S SUPERMAN SHE WAS LIKE THE MOVIE IS DOOMED THIS MORRON CANT BE SUPES NO ONE CAN REPLACE CHRIS REEVES .

But you left out how she also said, "Batman is doomed! No one can replace Adam West!"

[The Sage]

But you left out how she also said, "Batman is doomed! No one can replace Adam West!"

And what about when she heard that Jamie Foxx would be portraying Ray Charles, did she say "not that fool off of In Living Color" or "Not the star of that crappy show!" :rolleyes:

[triplet]

Nobody even knew who Chris Reeve was in 1978, Now he's regarded one of the best actors in Hollywood history. Calm down and give the guy a chance. :supes:

Why do people insist on comparing Routh to Reeve... he isn't even close to the same ballpark as Reeve.

Go take a look at Reeve's BIO (http://www.imdb.com/name/nm0001659/bio) on IMDB (http://www.imdb.com/name/nm0001659/). And then come back here and tell me that you still think Routh is anything at all like Reeve...

[IT is Batgirl]

Why do people insist on comparing Routh to Reeve... he isn't even close to the same ballpark as Reeve.

Go take a look at Reeve's BIO (http://www.imdb.com/name/nm0001659/bio) on IMDB (http://www.imdb.com/name/nm0001659/). And then come back here and tell me that you still think Routh is anything at all like Reeve...

The only difference pre-Superman is that Reeve had Julliard training.

[The Sage]

The only difference pre-Superman is that Reeve had Julliard training.

That's actually a big difference, LOL. Not ragging on Routh or anything...

They're alike in that they were relatively unknown.

[triplet]

The only difference pre-Superman is that Reeve had Julliard training.

Did you read his BIO?

That isn't the only difference, but I'm not going to get into this again which is why I posted the link.

The next time the A&E biography plays on Reeve, you should give it a gander.

Routh may be fine, he may even be talented, but he still isn't in Reeve's league.

[IT is Batgirl]

Did you read his BIO?

That isn't the only difference, but I'm not going to get into this again which is why I posted the link.

The next time the A&E biography plays on Reeve, you should give it a gander.

Routh may be fine, he may even be talented, but he still isn't in Reeve's league.
I don't know why you're so obsessed with comparing two actors' bio and resume. I assume that when people are comparing Routh and Reeve, they're comparing their "unknownness."

[The Sage]

Catfight!

*hits the deck*

[triplet]

I don't know why you're so obsessed with comparing two actors' bio and resume.

I'm just trying to prove how UNLIKE they are...


I assume that when people are comparing Routh and Reeve, they're comparing their "unknownness."


Not even that is alike... Routh had done like four or five things and maybe ten people knew who he was.

Reeves had been a working pro actor in the best known summer rep company (Williamsport Theatre Fest) in the country since the age of 16...

He was a working and well respected actor since he was a teen. So, maybe he hadn't done much TV and only that one bit part in Gray Lady Down, but he was far more known in some circles than Routh was...

What had Routh done: a soap, a few bit parts and a local dinner theatre?

Not even in the same league.

:sigh:



Oh, I give up.

Believe what you want, but they are nothing alike, except in general appearance.

[The Sage]

I'm just trying to prove how UNLIKE they are...




Not even that is alike... Routh had done like four or five things and maybe ten people knew who he was.

Reeves had been a working pro actor in the best known summer rep company (Williamsport Theatre Fest) in the country since the age of 16...

Oh, I give up.

Believe what you want, but they are nothing alike, except in general appearance.

But...I thought Reeve was an unknown? :(

[Lobo]

I thought Mom always knew best? :D


Well acording to TV "Father knows Best" ;)

[triplet]

But...I thought Reeve was an unknown? :(

read my revised post... He wasn't unknown.

Not in the East Coast theatre circles anyway. He was on broadway and worked steadily as a pro actor.

I'm not dissing Routh, but I think it's disrepectful of Reeve to lump him in with Routh as just another "unknown"...

Maybe he wasn't well known outside New York, but he wasn't an unknown.

[The Sage]

read my revised post... He wasn't unknown.

Not in the East Coast theatre circles anyway. He was on broadway and worked steadily as a pro actor.

I'm not dissing Routh, but I think it's disrepectful of Reeve to lump him in with Routh as just another "unknown"...

Maybe he wasn't well known outside New York, but he wasn't an unknown.

Ah I see. I guess that's where the phrase "relatively unknown" comes into play.

[IT is Batgirl]

For all of Reeve's acting background, he landed a soap and a bit part in a film before landing Superman. (I assume he did these plays and what-not before getting actual tv/film gigs.)

For Routh's less-than-Julliardian background, he landed a soap, some tv spots, and a bit part in a film before landing Superman.

That's how I look at this. That's what I see when I look at their filmographies. Although their acting backgrounds are different, the jobs they landed because of those backgrounds are eeriely similar.

[The Sage]

And just when I thought this argument would be settled...

THE GODS JUST WON'T STOP!

[triplet]

For all of Reeve's acting background, he landed a soap and a bit part in a film before landing Superman. (I assume he did these plays and what-not before getting actual tv/film gigs.)

For Routh's less-than-Julliardian background, he landed a soap, some tv spots, and a bit part in a film before landing Superman.

That's how I look at this. That's what I see when I look at their filmographies. Although their acting backgrounds are different, the jobs they landed because of those backgrounds are eeriely similar.

Yeah, I can see that but their acting backgrounds are world's apart and even though Chris was "relatively unknown" he had a fairly high profile in certain circles.

I'm not sure the same could be said of Routh. Maybe he had a relatively high profile among casting directors, it probably took quite a bit of work for him to get the parts he did, and soap fans prolly loved him.

But he still isn't in the same league acting wise as Reeve.

Not to say he's not talented, I'm not trying to diss him, but Reeve had a serious and very impressive acting CV which Routh does not have.

[The Incredible Hulk]

What is this supposed to prove again? :confused: *looks at "From Justin to Kelly" DVD*

[patrickbateman]

And what about when she heard that Jamie Foxx would be portraying Ray Charles, did she say "not that fool off of In Living Color" or "Not the star of that crappy show!" :rolleyes:

nah she actual approved abt jamie since Ray himself was supportive towards Jamie plus the dude had a great vocal range similar to Ray even D washington never came close to it. Her prediction is in the next 20 yrs jim carrey will be what robin williams is today.

[triplet]

What is this supposed to prove again? :confused: *looks at "From Justin to Kelly" DVD*

I think you'd have to go back a page or two to understand the context.

;) :up:

[The Sage]

nah she actual approved abt jamie since Ray himself was supportive towards Jamie plus the dude had a great vocal range similar to Ray even D washington never came close to it. Her prediction is in the next 20 yrs jim carrey will be what robin williams is today.

Yeah Carrey is simply amazing, and both Carrey and Foxx are alumni from In Living Color.

[Thunder Emperor]

routh simple is not in the same league, as also he is not in the same league as spacey.

[The Incredible Hulk]

I think you'd have to go back a page or two to understand the context.

;) :up:


I did, just making a point about the types of jobs people landing being an indicator of talent... :up:

[patrickbateman]

But you left out how she also said, "Batman is doomed! No one can replace Adam West!"


she hated Adam WEst what can i say that show was goofy,the darker batman is cool heck when all the other parents were complianing abt the horrors of BATMAN RETURNS she had no clue what the fuss was abt. I've had the VHs of Empire of the sun ever since i was a kid , the day Bale became batman i was rejoicing like a mad man , when she asked me who bale was i popped in the DVd of Empire of the sun , she always wondered what the heck haped to that kid he should have got an award for that movie.


ITS NOT THAT SHE HATES bRANDON ROUTH is just that this guy seems more towards the tobey maguire type casting hero Superman/clark kent should not look like Peter parker he should look like a man not a boy, i hope they make brandon look matured in the movie. what really bugs her the most is after making the superb decision of ignoring ashton, josh harnet and colin farrel they actual casted some one who look like a hybrid of the 3. most importantly his acting skills are even lower than Dean Cain. what amazing is towards the end she sort of gave up and said let that chick from smallvile take over as superman (i guess deep down she felt that this was reeves choice ) REGARDLESS OF WHAT SHE SAYS I TRUST IN SINGER NOT IN ROUTH BUT SINGER

[The Sage]

routh simple is not in the same league, as also he is not in the same league as spacey.

Well no kidding, that's so obvious that it didn't need to be stated. But who knows? Maybe the guy will surprise people. :o

[The Sage]

she hated Adam WEst what can i say that show was goofy,the darker batman is cool heck when all the other parents were complianing abt the horrors of BATMAN RETURNS she had no clue what the fuss was abt. I've had the VHs of Empire of the sun ever since i was a kid , the day Bale became batman i was rejoicing like a mad man , when she asked me who bale was i popped in the DVd of Empire of the sun , she always wondered what the heck haped to that kid he should have got an award for that movie.


ITS NOT THAT SHE HATES bRANDON ROUTH is just that this guy seems more towards the tobey maguire type casting hero Superman/clark kent should not look like Peter parker he should look like a man not a boy, i hope they make brandon look matured in the movie. what really bugs her the most is after making the superb decision of ignoring ashton, josh harnet and colin farrel they actual casted some one who look like a hybrid of the 3. most importantly his acting skills are even lower than Dean Cain. what amazing is towards the end she sort of gave up and said let that chick from smallvile take over as superman (i guess deep down she felt that this was reeves choice ) REGARDLESS OF WHAT SHE SAYS I TRUST IN SINGER NOT IN ROUTH BUT SINGER

Chick from Smallville? Oh no...LOL

[triplet]

Well no kidding, that's so obvious that it didn't need to be stated. But who knows? Maybe the guy will surprise people. :o

He'll surprise some more than others, no doubt! ;) :up: LOL!

[The Batman]

Broken Records....

[triplet]

Chick from Smallville? Oh no...LOL

Chick? :confused:



He must want Erica Durance for Supes...

LOL!

[The Incredible Hulk]

Broken Records....

Irrelevant postings...

[green]

What is this supposed to prove again? :confused: *looks at "From Justin to Kelly" DVD*


I hope you dont really own that. :rolleyes:

[patrickbateman]

Chick? :confused:



He must want Erica Durance for Supes...

LOL!


nah my mom keeps calling Tom Welling a chick when ever smallville's on tv

[triplet]

nah my mom keep calling Tom Welling a chick when ever smallville's on tv

Weird....

[The Batman]

Irrelevant postings...


Ah, but at least irrelevant postings are different.....

[Thunder Emperor]

Well no kidding, that's so obvious that it didn't need to be stated. But who knows? Maybe the guy will surprise people. :o


true, but i highly doubt.

[Thunder Emperor]

nah my mom keeps calling Tom Welling a chick when ever smallville's on tv


i guess only your mom thinks in your house. :D

[The Incredible Hulk]

Ah, but at least irrelevant postings are different.....


Maybe the broken record is relevant? :D

[The Batman]

it's relevant, but when you've heard both sides say the same thing over and over...

eh, i dunno....

[triplet]

it's relevant, but when you've heard both sides say the same thing over and over...

eh, i dunno....

It does keep going 'round and 'round, don't it?

http://www.sfrisch.com/images/merry_go.jpg

[Eliud]

http://www.geocities.com/televisioncity/9779/pubgal/br2.jpghttp://www.geocities.com/televisioncity/9779/pubgal/br1.jpgI want new pictures!!!!
if some of us doesn't like him yet is just because of those crappy pics that we have!

[johnsonuk]

try http://www.brandonrouth.com/
for all the pics,nothing new in a while.could it be the next pics we get are of clark/superman?

[IT is Batgirl]

try http://www.brandonrouth.com/
for all the pics,nothing new in a while.could it be the next pics we get are of clark/superman?

I have some pics I haven't uploaded to the site yet, but they're old and I've already posted them here.

We won't see Routh as Superman anytime soon I believe. Clark? Maybe.

[Eliud]

i hoope soooo.....

[johnsonuk]

batgirl you don't have the most recent pic at the alan horns bash,do you?
also have you had anyone intouch because of the site name..ie routh or representative?

[Eliud]

what are you talking about john?..

[IT is Batgirl]

batgirl you don't have the most recent pic at the alan horns bash,do you?
also have you had anyone intouch because of the site name..ie routh or representative?
December 04. Pre-strenous workout.
http://img204.exs.cx/img204/1247/variety7ln.jpg

[triplet]

batgirl you don't have the most recent pic at the alan horns bash,do you?
also have you had anyone intouch because of the site name..ie routh or representative?

You mean this one?

http://img132.exs.cx/img132/4524/vpioneerrouth3gy7lr.jpg

EDIT: beaten to the punch...