The Official Brandon Routh IS Superman thread.

[The Sage]

Actually, I don't know what Welling wants. He never said he did WANT it. And he never said he didn't. So I don't know. But I do know Caviezel wants it.

Yeah I do too. But I've always wanted an unknown. I'm willing put my faith in Singer on this one.

[triplet]

desk makes good points
Yeah, I agree but he had at least one factual error in regards to Crowe:

He wasn't a child star in Australia.

His parents were set caterers during that period of his life so he got cast in at least one episode of the Antipodean TV drama Spy Force as a child extra.

He had no lines and was shown only in one scene, and that was from a distance...

Also, I'm not sure Crowe was scrubbed due to his success after LA Confidential, that was made three years prior to X-Men. He had several indie films in between LAC and The Insider/Gladiator time frame. He may have just been too busy, after all Gladiator was released just before X-Men.

Anyway: just thought I'd mention it since I'm a know it all ;) and about the only actor I know more about than Tom Welling is Russell Crowe.

Btw and back on topic: I'm not sure I like Routh but I don't know anything about him...

I guess I'll wait and see what the reviews say before I decide whether or not I'll see this one, but I'm willing to give Singer the benefit of the doubt until then.

[hame4479]

I don't get it. why are so many people think that Brandon Routh can't play Sups? i've seen so many of the remarks here for the last 3 1/2 years that people want an unknown for sups. Now that we have that, floks are crying like school girls(NOT TO DISRESPECT ANYONE HERE, BUT ITS THE TRUTH). Its been said that Brandon can't act. I've never seen so many "movie critics" before in my life. "He can't act, He has not been in any stage plays" so what cry me a river. he who has seen his audition cast the first stone. Please my fellow sup fans wait to see him in action before you say his not ready for the roll because the one who is writting his million dollor check says he is ready. if i have offend anyone one here please forgive me.
p.s i do respect everyones opinion here i just don't agree with all of them. thx:) norm
Really none of you have any idea if Brandon can act or not. Singer knows what he is doing and I'm sure it will kick a**. Plus tom welling SUCKS.

[GREEN =w= DAY]

Superman is finally cast. thank God!!!! i've never seen this Routh guy act, so i can't judge him on that. but he does have the right look. i wish this guy the best of luck. if all turns out well, hopefully we can have Routh and Bale together in Batman/Superman film.

[StarvingArtist]

Caviezel could've possibly attracted more attention to the movie. I mean, ''The man that played Jesus Christ, now playing Superman?'' That to me, had alot of potential. But instead, they go with Brandon Routh. A guy who looks nothing like Superman, and is too young. He's just 5 months older than me..... Ya know, I understood all of your points, but this one REALLY bothers me because I never understand why people have to associate Superman with Jesus. Why would you assume EVERYONE in this world would love the idea of a guy who played Jesus Christ playing Superman? Not everyone is Christian my friend, and the idea of watching "Super-Christ" isn't all that appealing or spiritual to everyone. That's one of my reasons for Superman to be played by ANYONE but Jim Caveizal. BTW, I hated the way Menkawitz treated the Superman movie script by throwing in metaphors for Christ. Caviezal brings waaaayy too much baggage to the role. Maybe it would be ok for you to watch someone who is pretty much as identified as Jesus Christ as Reeve was Superman, and feel a certain extra spark of spirituality, but to a lot of others, it would do nothing but leave a bad taste in their mouths. The unkown is the best choice not only because it's not Jim Caviezal, but also because it helps the believablity of what you're seeing on screen. There are no other roles attached to the actor, you can't see him as anything else but Superman, which is the way it should be; at least in my opinion. I could be wrong. However I do know that I do not want to see an actor whom I can't see as anyone other then Jesus Christ (or maybe as the dude from Frequency,) playing a hero that is supposed to appeal to everyone on this earth. The creators of Superman sure didn't intend for Superman to be treated as a symbol for Christ by any means whatsoever.

[Dark Knight]

Yeah. We do have the originals. I'm actually suprised someone hates this decision. It seems everybody here likes it all of the sudden.

It's just that, a while back ago, there were many people saying that nobody wanted to take on the role because they were afraid of type-casting. Fine, forget them then, we have a guy out there right now who is more than willing to take the role, no questions asked. He is Jim Caviezel. He seems to be the only one out there that WANTS the role. And speaks out about it. He says over and over that he wants to play Superman. But Bryan Singer, who seems to be set in his ways, wanted to cast an unknown. Sure, I'm the first to admit that casting unknowns pays off sometimes, but this time around, I would've rather had a name actor like Caviezel (If not Tom Welling).

Caviezel could've possibly attracted more attention to the movie. I mean, ''The man that played Jesus Christ, now playing Superman?'' That to me, had alot of potential. But instead, they go with Brandon Routh. A guy who looks nothing like Superman, and is too young. He's just 5 months older than me.

I don't care what people have to say about Brandon Routh, I don't like this decision, at all. I don't hate the guy one bit. I have no reason to hate him, I just don't like the fact he was cast as Superman. I would've gladly accepted him for young Clark, but not Supes whatsoever. I guess the casting auditions were for nothing then. A total waste of time IMO.


The only reason why some of these people seem like to this is because Singer has said he wants an unknown....thats it.....(which is dumb IMO) to lay all your eggs on the table of an inexperienced actor for a big time franchise who has a huge nose. So these people just think....."Oh...well Mr. Singer wants a complete unknown.....so..well....that means i want a complete unknown" without thinking logically. Some in here are just being total brown-nosers and butt-kissers.....it's obvious.

[triplet]

Good question.


People I don't want this turnd into another Welling thread, Either stay on topic or get out.
It was a rebuttal to prove a point. I got that and it was on topic: kinda. Probably should have had a comparison photo of Routh in there... it would have better helped prove the point in any case.

[Venom71]

Oh yeah....and Singer cares soooooooooo freakin much about you SpiderFreddie or Daniel or whatever you are......haha......Singer loves you man......he really really loves youuuuuu! hahaha.....lol......and i never wanted Singer to care about me.....unlike some in here obviously.......lol..... :p
Someone needs to go back to the Batcave and take a time out...taking all this waaaay too seious IMO. It is just a movie. :D

Ohh Yea ROUTH IS :supes: :D

[norminator]

Does anybody think logically around here who are actually for this guy as Superman?? Besides telling me the weak......Oh...."Reeve was a complete unknown actor so why can't this guy be?" Reeve was not a complete unknown actor....he was well trained. This guy has not been. Whats the other argument....Oh " you haven't seen him yet" you can't judge wah..wah...wah.....i don't have to have seen him to KNOW that he is not as good of an actor as JC is. Or Bailey, or Cavill,.......oh boy......some fo you need to think logically and stop reaching and kissing Singers butt.........eeeeek......ack....Dark Knight, i'm not kissing anyone butt.
1. How do you know if he has or has not been trained?
2. What about his look that displease you? If is that his ti skinny that can and will be fixed.
thx:):up: norm

[gdw]

i don't have to have seen him to KNOW that he is not as good of an actor as JC is. Or Bailey, or Cavill,.......oh boy......some fo you need to think logically and stop reaching and kissing Singers butt.........eeeeek......ack....

WOW. That is one of the most ignorant things I have ever seen. Either that or you are an incredible judge of talent. I mean if you know how good an actor is without ever even seeing them. My god that's amazing.

On an other note, Reeves really didn't look anything like Superman beforr the first movie. I know that sound odd, but we've all seen the pics of him that were released when he was cast.

I wish I could find them again. They pretty much dismiss any one who is debating a look based on comparison to Reeve. Also, in regards to training, there are many ***** actors who went to prestigous (SP) acting schools and there are also many Great actors who were not trained at all.

Stop being prejudice. You are simply pre-judging Routh's acting and his ability to hold up as Superman. I am not jumping for joy over his casting (yet) although I am jumping for joy about the fact that someone HAS been cast finaly. I am holding my judgment untill I actuall have something to base it on.

Do you act like this when you find out an artst you've never heard of is taking over a book. "I don't have to see his work to know he can't draw compaired to Jim Lee."

[Dark Knight]

Ya know, I understood all of your points, but this one REALLY bothers me because I never understand why people have to associate Superman with Jesus. Why would you assume EVERYONE in this world would love the idea of a guy who played Jesus Christ playing Superman? Not everyone is Christian my friend, and the idea of watching "Super-Christ" isn't all that appealing or spiritual to everyone. That's one of my reasons for Superman to be played by ANYONE but Jim Caveizal. BTW, I hated the way Menkawitz treated the Superman movie script by throwing in metaphors for Christ. Caviezal brings waaaayy too much baggage to the role. Maybe it would be ok for you to watch someone who is pretty much as identified as Jesus Christ as Reeve was Superman, and feel a certain extra spark of spirituality, but to a lot of others, it would do nothing but leave a bad taste in their mouths. The unkown is the best choice not only because it's not Jim Caviezal, but also because it helps the believablity of what you're seeing on screen. There are no other roles attached to the actor, you can't see him as anything else but Superman, which is the way it should be; at least in my opinion. I could be wrong. However I do know that I do not want to see an actor whom I can't see as anyone other then Jesus Christ (or maybe as the dude from Frequency,) playing a hero that is supposed to appeal to everyone on this earth. The creators of Superman sure didn't intend for Superman to be treated as a symbol for Christ by any means whatsoever.

See..your take doesn't make sense.....how does casting Jim Caviezel bring too much "baggage" to the role of Superman?? How..? Does he have a huge ego??? I think not......is he difficult to work with during production perhaps?? I think not.......Does he demand chanegs in scripts?? Haven't heard much about that.....so the "baggage" is because he has acted in 6 or 7 other films before.....some B-movie and some hits??? That is what you call baggage?? Am i missing something here or......?? I just don't see how JC would bring "baggage" to any role......sorry.....this is laughable....

[The Sage]

See..your take doesn't make sense.....how does casting Jim Caviezel bring too much "baggage" to the role of Superman?? How..? Does he have a huge ego??? I think not......is he difficult to work with during production perhaps?? I think not.......Does he demand chanegs in scripts?? Haven't heard much about that.....so the "baggage" is because he has acted in 6 or 7 other films before.....some B-movie and some hits??? That is what you call baggage?? Am i missing something here or......?? I just don't see how JC would bring "baggage" to any role......sorry.....this is laughable....

I think he means with JC being a known actor, it would make it hard for some to see him as Superman, while with an unknown like Routh, it would make it easier.

[superfever]

Does anybody think logically around here who are actually for this guy as Superman?? Besides telling me the weak......Oh...."Reeve was a complete unknown actor so why can't this guy be?" Reeve was not a complete unknown actor....he was well trained. This guy has not been. Whats the other argument....Oh " you haven't seen him yet" you can't judge wah..wah...wah.....i don't have to have seen him to KNOW that he is not as good of an actor as JC is. Or Bailey, or Cavill,.......oh boy......some fo you need to think logically and stop reaching and kissing Singers butt.........eeeeek......ack....

as if your beloved welling is well trained. :o

[The Sage]

as if your beloved welling is well trained. :o

http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v396/sage1047/wellingowned.jpg

[green]

Some in here are just being total brown-nosers and butt-kissers.....it's obvious.



That's frickin hilarious....There is so much for people to gain by kissing but on an internet forum to someone who probably wont even read this, now whos being irrational.
Its quite simple and clear that a known actor would bring baggage to this role especially JC, Not only that but he has never fit the profile of what Singer was looking for.
I can understand people being skeptical of Routh ( if this turns out to be official ), nobodys really seen him work. It's a bit of a leap of faith the only people who really know are the ones who have gotten to his screen tests and unless you are one of them you really have no basis for making judgments.
If you dont like the news you are hearing thats ok, move on get over it, stop acting like immature children, ITS A MOVIE.

[Dark Knight]

WOW. That is one of the most ignorant things I have ever seen. Either that or you are an incredible judge of talent. I mean if you know how good an actor is without ever even seeing them. My god that's amazing.

On an other note, Reeves really didn't look anything like Superman beforr the first movie. I know that sound odd, but we've all seen the pics of him that were released when he was cast.

I wish I could find them again. They pretty much dismiss any one who is debating a look based on comparison to Reeve. Also, in regards to training, there are many ***** actors who went to prestigous (SP) acting schools and there are also many Great actors who were not trained at all.

Stop being prejudice. You are simply pre-judging Routh's acting and his ability to hold up as Superman. I am not jumping for joy over his casting (yet) although I am jumping for joy about the fact that someone HAS been cast finaly. I am holding my judgment untill I actuall have something to base it on.

Do you act like this when you find out an artst you've never heard of is taking over a book. "I don't have to see his work to know he can't draw compaired to Jim Lee."


i don't think it's ignorant at all actually.......it's about finding the BEST actor for the role buddy..do you know what that means does that have any significance to you at all as a fan??..It does me..... i would bet a whole lot more money with JC as Supes ahead of this Rushnore guy.......sorry you don't agree Singer kiss-butt. Fine i'll give the guy a chance...just for you....so you can feel more secure....k? I have a feeling some of you Rushmore Routh backers are YES people.....you know never challenging authority and always saying "YES Boss.....of course boss...anything for you boss"......haha....

[The Sage]

i don't think it's ignorant at all actually.......it's about finding the BEST actor for the role buddy..do you know what that means does that have any significance to you at all as a fan??..It does me..... i would bet a whole lot more money with JC as Supes ahead of this Rushnore guy.......sorry you don't agree Singer kiss-butt. Fine i'll give the guy a chance...just for you....so you can feel more secure....k? I have a feeling some of you Rushmore Routh backers are YES people.....you know never challenging authority and always saying "YES Boss.....of course boss...anything for you boss"......haha....

Funny, I seem to recall the days of you being opposed to JC...

[triplet]

Really - tell me more about it. :)

A search (http://www.google.com/search?hl=en&lr=&safe=off&q=norwalk+theater+performing+arts) on Google fails to turn up a single reference to a "Norwalk Theater of Performing Arts," as listed in Routh's biography.

And I would caution that it might be unwise to assume that this provided any sort of theatrical training - it might easily be the name of a local theater used by amateur dramatic groups.
Interesting...

[Pdiddy]

Brandon Routh "Official" Fan Club (http://www.geocities.com/BrandonRouthFanClub/brofc.html)

Think of it as the place to go for Routh stuff. Hopefully Routh approves this. =]

great idea/job...although i dont think you're allowed to say "official"...since you really arent!

we're working on something too....its not up yet, but it will be at www.brandonrouth.com

probably wont be anything out there for a bit...

[Dark Knight]

That's frickin hilarious....There is so much for people to gain by kissing but on an internet forum to someone who probably wont even read this, now whos being irrational.
Its quite simple and clear that a known actor would bring baggage to this role especially JC, Not only that but he has never fit the profile of what Singer was looking for.
I can understand people being skeptical of Routh ( if this turns out to be official ), nobodys really seen him work. It's a bit of a leap of faith the only people who really know are the ones who have gotten to his screen tests and unless you are one of them you really have no basis for making judgments.
If you dont like the news you are hearing thats ok, move on get over it, stop acting like immature children, ITS A MOVIE.

Immature child.......? Huh? I making valid arguments pal......nothign wrong with getting into it.....right? Move on get over it? You mean conform to seems to what may be happening? NEEEEVERRRR....hahaha........I'll wait until the trades and WB's make an official announcement....and then I'm back to the Batman boards.....don't worry....

[green]

Immature child.......? Huh? I making valid arguments pal......nothign wrong with getting into it.....right? Move on get over it? You mean conform to seems to what may be happening? NEEEEVERRRR....hahaha........I'll wait until the trades and WB's make an official announcement....and then I'm back to the Batman boards.....don't worry....



Valid arguments do not need to be condescencing.

[superfever]

batgirl & pdiddy, you girls are moving real fast. :D

[Dark Knight]

Funny, I seem to recall the days of you being opposed to JC...

Oh boy.....MUST we go over this again........I'm for anyone Caviezel, Cavill, Bailey, hell even Welling ahead of a complete unknown actor with limited acting experience like what this guy is. That's it please.....i can't repeat myself again.....too tired....

[Dark Knight]

Valid arguments do not need to be condescencing.


Tell that to other people also....not just me.....

[The Sage]

Oh boy.....MUST we go over this again........I'm for anyone Caviezel, Cavill, Bailey, hell even Welling ahead of a complete unknown actor with limited acting experience like what this guy is. That's it please.....i can't repeat myself again.....too tired....

Oh, and what the heck do you think Welling had when you were religiously backing him? He certainly didn't have a wealth of experience. :o

[triplet]

I'll agree a little. Routh doesn't look like Superman. Yet, neither does Welling. Both only look like Reeve. Reeve is the one who looked like Superman. They don't. Just IMO.
This makes absolutely no sense whatsoever.

If Welling and Routh look like Reeve, how can it be that only Reeve looks like Superman?

:confused:

http://www.sfrisch.com/images/merry_go.jpg

[The Sage]

Interesting...

Might help if you read the biography. The theater is part of the college Routh attended.

[The Sage]

This makes absolutely no sense whatsoever.

If Welling and Routh look like Reeve, how can it be that only Reeve looks like Superman?

:confused:

http://www.sfrisch.com/images/merry_go.jpg

Because Reeve was cast based on his resemblance to Superman, while the other two were IMO, cast mostly on their resemblance to him. Just because Reeve looked like Superman doesn't mean if you cast someone who has some simlarities to him will as well.

[Pdiddy]

batgirl & pdiddy, you girls are moving real fast. :D

girls?

[Dark Knight]

Dark Knight, i'm not kissing anyone butt.
1. How do you know if he has or has not been trained?
2. What about his look that displease you? If is that his ti skinny that can and will be fixed.
thx:):up: norm


Cool....he is lucky he gets a nose job..paid for by Singer himself....sweet! what a lucky guy......someone mentioned his background in another post somewhere and i looked on the internet.

[Dark Knight]

Oh, and what the heck do you think Welling had when you were religiously backing him? He certainly didn't have a wealth of experience. :o

yeah well....the guy ahs been training to be Superman for 4 years.....good enough for me. Plus can you imagine the marketing with Welling.....the movie might have had a chance to break Spidey's records with Welling.

[triplet]

Because Reeve was cast based on his resemblance to Superman, while the other two were IMO, cast mostly on their resemblance to him. Just because Reeve looked like Superman doesn't mean if you cast someone who has some simlarities to him will as well.
Oh, I see...

So are you saying that because Routh was allegedly only cast based on his resemblance to Reeve, that's it's bogus choice?

[Dark Knight]

what did you call me???? ohhhhhh...boy......oh yeah....bring it on!! come get some!.....now where is Superman the mod to put this person on probation? haha.....lol.....


oh and by the way...i know alot of were for an unknown in here...i used to roam here about 2 years ago when all the crazyness was happening.....some of you were adament about wanting a complete unknown.....probably writing nutty petitions to WB's and the directors and all that stuff.

[triplet]

Might help if you read the biography. The theater is part of the college Routh attended.
That makes sense.

My hubby's a lighting designer and works in academic theatre. Many academic theatre programs have rep theatre companies attached to them...

[The Sage]

Oh, I see...

So are you saying that because Routh was allegedly only cast based on his resemblance to Reeve, that's it's bogus choice?

Oh no not at all. I doubt that's why, at least not just a reason. I'm sure Routh won through acting. Though I wouldn't doubt his resemblance to Reeve wasn't a deciding factor. Just IMO.

[IT is Batgirl]

girls?

I am, but I don't believe Pdiddy is.

[Venom71]

oh and by the way...i know alot of were for an unknown in here...i used to roam here about 2 years ago when all the crazyness was happening.....some of you were adament about wanting a complete unknown.....probably writing nutty petitions to WB's and the directors and all that stuff.

I thnik I hear them calling you back too the Batman boards...you should go and see what they want and stay for awhile :D

ROUTH IS :supes:

[StarvingArtist]

See..your take doesn't make sense.....how does casting Jim Caviezel bring too much "baggage" to the role of Superman?? How..? Does he have a huge ego??? I think not......is he difficult to work with during production perhaps?? I think not.......Does he demand chanegs in scripts?? Haven't heard much about that.....so the "baggage" is because he has acted in 6 or 7 other films before.....some B-movie and some hits??? That is what you call baggage?? Am i missing something here or......?? I just don't see how JC would bring "baggage" to any role......sorry.....this is laughable....
.....um....I think you need to chill out and learn how to read first before lashing out....I never said Jim Caviezel has a huge ego or any of what you claim I mean. I thought I had made my definition of baggage fairly obvious but I'll spell it out for you. BAGGAGE in this case is refering to what we already associate with Jim Caviezal. The reference to the movie "Frequency" was sarcasm (and it's not a b-movie either, try not to exaggerate to the point of making yourself look insane.) The whole world associates Jim Caviezel with the Passion of the Christ, and if you disagree with me on that, well you're just wrong because it became the highest grossing rated R film in US box office history and the controversy that surrounded it was heard from here to Timbuktu. That is my definition of baggage in this case. Now why is baggage bad when it comes to Superman? Read my response again and figure it out for yourself. However, the whole point of my response had more so to do with people identifying Superman with Jesus and that just pisses me off. On a different note though, if you really get that peeved at my disregard for Jim Caviezel as Superman, then maybe you should work on one or two other things besides learning how to exrapolate points from other people's statements.

[The Sage]

yeah well....the guy ahs been training to be Superman for 4 years.....good enough for me. Plus can you imagine the marketing with Welling.....the movie might have had a chance to break Spidey's records with Welling.

I doubt it, especially after this past week. Reeve's passing, though unfortunate, will end up helping put the film out there on the market more than Welling could ever do.

[IT is Batgirl]

Oh no not at all. I doubt that's why, at least not just a reason. I'm sure Routh won through acting. Though I wouldn't doubt his resemblance to Reeve wasn't a deciding factor. Just IMO.

Well sure, because like it or not, people associate Reeve's look with Superman. I think there would be backlash if Singer cast someone who didn't resemble Reeve at all. It would throw everyone for a loop. I think Routh resembles Reeve just enough to give him that mystery.

[The Sage]

That makes sense.

My hubby's a lighting designer and works in academic theatre. Many academic theatre programs have rep theatre companies attached to them...

Right.

[The Sage]

Well sure, because like it or not, people associate Reeve's look with Superman. I think there would be backlash if Singer cast someone who didn't resemble Reeve at all. It would throw everyone for a loop. I think Routh resembles Reeve just enough to give him that mystery.

Perhaps.

[triplet]

Oh no not at all. I doubt that's why, at least not just a reason. I'm sure Routh won through acting. Though I wouldn't doubt his resemblance to Reeve wasn't a deciding factor. Just IMO.
Gotcha.

But, just to be a know-it-all: You got a double negative in that last sentence, Sage. So right now you're not saying what you meant to say.

[Stephen K. Hone]

The only reason why some of these people seem like to this is because Singer has said he wants an unknown....thats it.....(which is dumb IMO) to lay all your eggs on the table of an inexperienced actor for a big time franchise who has a huge nose. So these people just think....."Oh...well Mr. Singer wants a complete unknown.....so..well....that means i want a complete unknown" without thinking logically. Some in here are just being total brown-nosers and butt-kissers.....it's obvious.



Something tells me that Bryan Singer is a much better judge of someone's acting ability than you. If he has selected Routh, then it is because he has total confidence in him to pull this role off. You are just so hopelessly biased in favour of another candidate, that you lack any objectivity. A lot of us on these boards had favourites for the role other than Routh. However the majority of us are willing to let Singer get on with this movie with Routh as Superman, as we believe he knows what he is doing. If we are wrong, feel free to let us know sometime in July 06. :)

[The Sage]

Gotcha.

But, just to be a know-it-all: You got a double negative in that last sentence, Sage. So right now you're not saying what you meant to say.

You're right...you are a know-it-all...


JUST KIDDING. :D

[C. Lee]

I want the posting of the "F" word to stop....there's no need for that on here.

[Stephen K. Hone]

Well sure, because like it or not, people associate Reeve's look with Superman. I think there would be backlash if Singer cast someone who didn't resemble Reeve at all. It would throw everyone for a loop. I think Routh resembles Reeve just enough to give him that mystery.



I think Brandon looks in some of the photos very much like CR. His nose is a bit thicker, but it has a similar bone structure to Reeve. Imo Though, I don't think Tom Welling looks like Reeve at all, but that is not to say that he would not make a good Superman. :)

[C. Lee]

Dark Knight...gdw....read my pm to you.

[MJZ]

Something tells me that Bryan Singer is a much better judge of someone's acting ability than you. If he has selected Routh, then it is because he has total confidence in him to pull this role off. You are just so hopelessly biased in favour of another candidate, that you lack any objectivity. A lot of us on these boards had favourites for the role other than Routh. However the majority of us are willing to let Singer get on with this movie with Routh as Superman, as we believe he knows what he is doing. If we are wrong, feel free to let us know sometime in July 06. :)

That's a nice spin. :D

As soon as Bryan Singer says Routh is playing the starring role in Superman then you may have a valid point.

bwahahaha

[triplet]

Something tells me that Bryan Singer is a much better judge of someone's acting ability than you. If he has selected Routh, then it is because he has total confidence in him to pull this role off. You are just so hopelessly biased in favour of another candidate, that you lack any objectivity. A lot of us on these boards had favourites for the role other than Routh. However the majority of us are willing to let Singer get on with this movie with Routh as Superman, as we believe he knows what he is doing. If we are wrong, feel free to let us know sometime in July 06. :)
Good comments, Stephen.

I agree. While I'm disappointed my pick didn't get the nod, I'm not bashing Routh because of it.

To be honest I'm a bit concerned with Routh's lack of a solid acting CV, but to be fair: potential isn't always spelled out in your resume.

Harrison Ford got so discouraged with his early lack of success in acting that he took up carpentry for years until he was cast in American Grafitti. And he's a guy who can hold his own with some of the best.

So Routh may be better than we all hope he is.

In any case Stephen's right, we'll find out for sure in July 06.

[triplet]

Dark Knight...gdw....read my pm to you.
I hope that's over now... Thanks, C.

[triplet]

You're right...you are a know-it-all...


JUST KIDDING. :D
:D

I am a know-it-all... It's official, actually.

I spaced a meeting at work this morning and apparently they were all "Where is she, she'd know the answer to that..."

I had a lot of emails waiting for me when I got back to my desk. ;) :) To which I gladly answered all their questions.

[IT is Batgirl]

I still love this picture.

http://img97.exs.cx/img97/8408/halloween5.jpg

[IT is Batgirl]

Here's the Routh/Bale pic again.

http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v71/yarrum/batsup.jpg

[The Sage]

Here's the Routh/Bale pic again.

http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v71/yarrum/batsup.jpg

BALE OWNS AGAIN. :p

[sithgoblin]

Bale would smash him in a fight.

[Stephen K. Hone]

That's a nice spin. :D

As soon as Bryan Singer says Routh is playing the starring role in Superman then you may have a valid point.

bwahahaha


Will you have learned to read a little more carefully by then? I said "IF", but you were so quick with your unbridled enthusiasm to pick what I said apart, you missed that little detail. ;)

[The Sage]

Now this is more like it...

http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v396/sage1047/brandonrouth.jpghttp://img.photobucket.com/albums/v396/sage1047/thebale.jpg

[triplet]

Now this is more like it...

http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v396/sage1047/brandonrouth.jpghttp://img.photobucket.com/albums/v396/sage1047/thebale.jpg
Actually, that looks like a pretty good pairing...

[Honey Vibe]

Wow... and you can say that based only on seeing a few photos? I probably would not admit to being that prejudiced.

As has been pointed out by numerous posters, it's hard to shoot down the choice of Routh without admitting you would have had the same reaction to the casting of Reeve... another tall, relatively scrawny unknown actor with only some experience on a soap opera and a few blank-look dewey-eyed fanzine publicity photos to his credit.

What a surprise... most Caviezel fans don't like Routh, most Welling fans don't like Routh, and there's a lot of pouting and posturing about losing interest in the movie, etc.

Maybe Singer should make the tag line for this movie, "You will believe an unknown can act!" Excellent post.

You've hit "the fanboy" right in his tender underbelly :up:

[IT is Batgirl]

Hey guys. I added all of the Routh manips to the Routh Fan Club. Link is in my signature. If there are any I missed, please, let me know. I'd be happy to add whatever you guys make. =]

[Kryptonite X]

Funny how people believe what suits them, maybe this is why I'm saying this and I don't think I would be liked for this.
Routh is not going to be Superman.

The movie takes place 6 years after Superman has gone away (if this is true) and it uses the first two films as backround (if that is true). Superman was in his 30's in those films, how can he become younger in 6 years?

Not that I would mind him for Superman, he's always been in my top 5 contenders and at least he's better than most contenders we had.
I'm just not falling for this... yet

[IT is Batgirl]

Superman ages slower than humans.

[johnsonuk]

Superman ages slower than humans.
that is what i was going to say.But that does not explaine how lois gets younger.Maybe they will just do a bond and replace old for new and assume everyone will go with it.

[Kryptonite X]

He can age slower but he can't become younger.
Maybe they (team Singer) have a genuis plan up their sleeves, but I can't see him doing that, his movies anchor too much in reality.

[johnsonuk]

well the truth is we realy do not know if routh is supes and we realy don't know the story......yet.

[dragonpryde]

I've alwayts thought Welling should be the one to reprise the role since I saw the first episode of Smallville. despite his lack enthusiasim. This feeling was re-asserted by the fact the he was also the choice of Reeve's, but I when I read the Routh article and saw his picture so quickly after the tragic death, I felt a sense of confident content that Superman had been found. If this is so, I wish Routh all the luck in the world, and I'll have faith that he can return the character to movie prominence - to iconic greatness once more.

[White_Howling]

tall, black hair, blue eyes, thin lean built..

I say go for it.. good luck for Routh

[JcDc]

I've alwayts thought Welling should be the one to reprise the role since I saw the first episode of Smallville. despite his lack enthusiasim. This feeling was re-asserted by the fact the he was also the choice of Reeve's, but I when I read the Routh article and saw his picture so quickly after the tragic death, I felt a sense of confident content that Superman had been found. If this is so, I wish Routh all the luck in the world, and I'll have faith that he can return the character to movie prominence - to iconic greatness once more.


We will never know if Welling was Reeve's choice or not. What was he gonna say while being a supporter of the superman universe and having cameos on smallville... "Oh Welling isn't fit to where the cape, btw it was fun doing this episode of smallville"

[Desk]

Might help if you read the biography. The theater is part of the college Routh attended.
Please cite your source for this claim.

Routh attended the University of Iowa, and after extensive searching I've been unable to find any connection to the name "Norwalk."

I've only encountered variations on one version of Routh's biography, and it states...

Routh was born in Des Moines, Iowa and grew up in nearby Norwalk. He attended the University of Iowa and starred in many productions at the Norwalk Theater of Performing Arts.

There is no explicitly stated connection between the University of Iowa and this mysterious Norwalk Theater of Performing Arts.

Wouldn't its very name suggest that the theater is located in the town of Norwalk, where Routh grew up, rather than have any connection to the University of Iowa, which is located in Iowa City?

[Pdiddy]

for some reason, i have a bad feeling about this whole routh story.....

s-v STILL hasnt posted anything....

[Ita-KalEl]

for some reason, i have a bad feeling about this whole routh story.....

s-v STILL hasnt posted anything....

IMO this probably doesn't mean nothing. There are only problems for the updates of SV; Scott yesterday talked with his sources but wants to put his news on the site and not on the project voice message board. So we're only waiting for Dan.

[Carmine Falcone]

Here's the Routh/Bale pic again.

http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v71/yarrum/batsup.jpg

BALE DAMMIT!!! :mad:


sorry, couldn't resist.....:o

[Bad Superman]

Well. . . no official news have come about. . .

I think we've been fooled once again. This false news game has gotten old fast.

[Desk]

This was posted on the BlueTights forum.. no idea of its veracity...



I have been reading eveybody's posting here since the WW casting started. I know all of you are sceptic of new members jumping in with their opinions. I too was one of the many men that auditioned for the role of Superman. I heard about it because I work in the film industry. I even got a call back. I didn't make any further than that, but then again, I have never acted. I work for a company that rents the camera to production companies. I know a lot of camera assistants. I also know that on Oct. 6th they shot screen tests with 35mm and 65mm.

What I was "told" from my friends is that only one guy screen tested (there was a girl for Lois). I was told that he was the same guy that tested with the previous director. (My friends was on that test as well) That person looks to me as Brandon Routh. My friends also told me his "Clark Kent" was scary close to Christopher Reeve's "Clark".

I also work out at the same gym as Mike O'Hearn. He is a nice guy. I have talked to him about his auditions. He told me this weekend that he has two months to drop his size down to 235 lbs. He can retest then.

I know that some of you don't think a fitness person should be in the role. It is the only thing I disagree with. I am 6'4" 225 lbs and I work out 3 to 4 days a week. Superman better be fit with visible muscles. Superman has always been drawn with muscles. I have never seen a drawing of him skinny and meak. He is confident, strong, fit and something to look up to. Near the perfect being.

There's my 2 cents.

We should just wait until the offical announcement.

BTW, it is very interesting to see them test with 65mm. I imagine they are testing the 65mm for plates (backgrounds) and not for the movie itself even though they shot the actual screen test in 65mm.

A Clark Kent "scarily close" to Reeve's version? As much a fan as I am of the Reeve films I'm not very keen to see the clutzy, clumsy, bumbling 2D comedy character Clark Kent revisited on the big screen.

All the reports suggest that Singer is single-mindedly looking to recreate the Reeve films... and I can't say that an exercise in faithfully recreating what's already been done makes me particularly excited.

[The Sage]

I agree with Desk, for once. :)

[The Sage]

I've alwayts thought Welling should be the one to reprise the role since I saw the first episode of Smallville. despite his lack enthusiasim. This feeling was re-asserted by the fact the he was also the choice of Reeve's, but I when I read the Routh article and saw his picture so quickly after the tragic death, I felt a sense of confident content that Superman had been found. If this is so, I wish Routh all the luck in the world, and I'll have faith that he can return the character to movie prominence - to iconic greatness once more.

Please point me to the quote of Reeve selecting Welling...

[Bad Superman]

This was posted on the BlueTights forum.. no idea of its veracity...



A Clark Kent "scarily close" to Reeve's version? As much a fan as I am of the Reeve films I'm not very keen to see the clutzy, clumsy, bumbling 2D comedy character Clark Kent revisited on the big screen.

All the reports suggest that Singer is single-mindedly looking to recreate the Reeve films... and I can't say that an exercise in faithfully recreating what's already been done makes me particularly excited.

:up: Well said.

[Superman1980]

Apparently Singer doesn't care about you. Thank god. Thank god Singer is casting an unknown. You're a fan but you sure don't know a **** about making movies. Singer does and a lot!! Let the man do his job. Did he disappoint x-men fans with his x-men movies? No!! So be cool and give the guy a chance.

SpiderDaniel is right, I don't know anything about this Brandon Routh guy and to be honest, i really don't care. I'm just glad that after so many years of waiting, we finally seem to be getting somewhere with the Superman movie. There's alot of people on these boards that aren't happy with Brandon, i respect your opinion and that's fine for you to think like that but why not give Singer a chance. As SpiderDaniel said, did he f**k up with the X-Men.....NO. They were kick arse movies and I'm sure this one will be too. Give him a chance and see what happens. Once we've seen the movie, if it's s**t, we can slag him off then and trust me, i'll be the first in line to do that. but lets see what he gives us first.

[The Sage]

Please cite your source for this claim.

Routh attended the University of Iowa, and after extensive searching I've been unable to find any connection to the name "Norwalk."

I've only encountered variations on one version of Routh's biography, and it states...



There is no explicitly stated connection between the University of Iowa and this mysterious Norwalk Theater of Performing Arts.

Wouldn't its very name suggest that the theater is located in the town of Norwalk, where Routh grew up, rather than have any connection to the University of Iowa, which is located in Iowa City?

Good point. I don't know where the name Norwalk comes from. But there is a theatre of performing arts at the university.

[The Sage]

for some reason, i have a bad feeling about this whole routh story.....

s-v STILL hasnt posted anything....

Dan's been away for a while though...

[The Sage]

You know, thinking about it...has anyone ever thought the synopsis of the story is a PR stunt, designed to get us talking?

[Superman1980]

You know, thinking about it...has anyone ever thought the synopsis of the story is a PR stunt, designed to get us talking?

i'd be VERY surprised if it was

[The Sage]

Or maybe the synopsis is close to the real deal, but the words are altered to make us think one thing. Let's not forget that drafts and rewrites do happen...

[Rob Lobo]

now this is Brandon Routh as Superman.

http://www.fanartists.com/gallery/data/507/192sufortress2g.jpg

[Bad Superman]

Or maybe the synopsis is close to the real deal, but the words are altered to make us think one thing. Let's not forget that drafts and rewrites do happen...

If that's the case they may get a very similar response from some of us as the JJ Abraham's script.

[Desk]

now this is Brandon Routh as Superman.

http://www.fanartists.com/gallery/data/507/192sufortress2g.jpg
Great manip, but is this meant to be encouraging?

[Rob Lobo]

yes imo only, i'll give the dude a chance. at least its not kutcher or other dumb annoying teen flick actor.

[The Sage]

If that's the case they may get a very similar response from some of us as the JJ Abraham's script.

Yep, and we all know about the many rewrites that script had. LOL

[Atlas Park]

You know, thinking about it...has anyone ever thought the synopsis of the story is a PR stunt, designed to get us talking?
I believe it's more than possible. There has been a lull in the news and "buzz" was silent for a while and of course with Christopher Reeve passing. They may have wanted to stir it up - hopefully it's not the hornet's nest.

[murp27]

now this is Brandon Routh as Superman.

http://www.fanartists.com/gallery/data/507/192sufortress2g.jpg

Well, I like it.

[superfever]

look good. i like it too. :)

[raybia]

See..your take doesn't make sense.....how does casting Jim Caviezel bring too much "baggage" to the role of Superman?? How..? Does he have a huge ego??? I think not......is he difficult to work with during production perhaps?? I think not.......Does he demand chanegs in scripts?? Haven't heard much about that.....so the "baggage" is because he has acted in 6 or 7 other films before.....some B-movie and some hits??? That is what you call baggage?? Am i missing something here or......?? I just don't see how JC would bring "baggage" to any role......sorry.....this is laughable....


Maybe because Caviezel would make a better Jor-El or Pa Kent than playing Superman.

[newbrando]

I didn't hear about the Routh news until yesterday. I decided to take a day to just digest it and then see what I thought..... I still don't really feel anything. I don't know what that means. Routh is just blahhh, but you know what, maybe that means Singer can make him into something GREAT!

Singer made his choice and that's what's important. I probably won't be seeing this movie in the theaters, just because the premise isn't appealing to me right now. Maybe I'll change my mind once all the publicity starts. And I still hope the movie does very well so we can have a Batman/Superman sequel. I'm REALLY excited about Batman now.

[raybia]

What. The. F***. Brandon Routh?! What the hell was Bryan Singer, or whoever was in charge of casting, thinking? If this is indeed true, I have officially lost interest in this movie. But I don't care, I have the other 4 Superman movies to watch. They're all I need anyway.

Routh is a joke. Bryan Singer is a joke. And WB is a joke.

Thanks alot WB. :rolleyes:

Since you lost interest in this movie and you no longer care then I guess this was you last post on the Superman boards. So long.

[triplet]

A Clark Kent "scarily close" to Reeve's version? As much a fan as I am of the Reeve films I'm not very keen to see the clutzy, clumsy, bumbling 2D comedy character Clark Kent revisited on the big screen.

All the reports suggest that Singer is single-mindedly looking to recreate the Reeve films... and I can't say that an exercise in faithfully recreating what's already been done makes me particularly excited.
Not sure it excites me much either....

[smsvmos]

Hello Guys well im not a casual writer on this board but I do read what has been goin on and well here are my 10 cents on the matter at hand... Brandon Routh is an ok guy but for Superman I tend to be skeptick on that matter cause Superman has many faces. But Singer is not thinking clear since Brandon is only 25 (yes he looks older but he is still 25) and they have older looking actors that can play the part and also better looking. About this movie being a sequal, I dont like this Idea one bit cause it wont fit, and the part about Superman beign away for 6 years its just plain stupid and guys dont tell me that Superman dosnt age the same as any one cause that still dosent do it right cause Lois and Jimmy and Perry and Lex still do age and they will have to be way older than in the SUperman II movie. So I dont like that idea just one bit. My dream about this movie would have been that I took my son to the movies and a re-start would have been seen in the big screen and my son would have understood where Superman came from and what happend but now I have to explain to him where he came from and well another thing that I will have to explain is why the guy from TV (TOM WELLING/ He calls him SUPERMAN :) ) is not Superman . Some one said in this boards that every Decade we have a Superman and in the 70's we had Reeve and in the 90's we had Dean Cain and now we are goin to have 2 Superman(Welling / Routh)( Guys dont say that Welling is not Superman and that he is just Clark Kent cause u guy are wrong. Clark is Superman and Superman is the Costume), that is just 2 much to take in one decade. I just hope Singers re-considers this action and not make the mistake of the century ,cause if Singers Concern is about not carrying 2 much baggage well I think that he is hawling the mother load on his back by trying to do a sequal on Superman II and bringing Zod and alll the other stuf along. Well here are my 10 cents on the matter

[Bad Superman]

Hello Guys well im not a casual writer on this board but I do read what has been goin on and well here are my 10 cents on the matter at hand... Brandon Routh is an ok guy but for Superman I tend to be skeptick on that matter cause Superman has many faces. But Singer is not thinking clear since Brandon is only 25 (yes he looks older but he is still 25) and they have older looking actors that can play the part and also better looking. About this movie being a sequal, I dont like this Idea one bit cause it wont fit, and the part about Superman beign away for 6 years its just plain stupid and guys dont tell me that Superman dosnt age the same as any one cause that still dosent do it right cause Lois and Jimmy and Perry and Lex still do age and they will have to be way older than in the SUperman II movie. So I dont like that idea just one bit. My dream about this movie would have been that I took my son to the movies and a re-start would have been seen in the big screen and my son would have understood where Superman came from and what happend but now I have to explain to him where he came from and well another thing that I will have to explain is why the guy from TV (TOM WELLING/ He calls him SUPERMAN :) ) is not Superman . Some one said in this boards that every Decade we have a Superman and in the 70's we had Reeve and in the 90's we had Dean Cain and now we are goin to have 2 Superman(Welling / Routh)( Guys dont say that Welling is not Superman and that he is just Clark Kent cause u guy are wrong. Clark is Superman and Superman is the Costume), that is just 2 much to take in one decade. I just hope Singers re-considers this action and not make the mistake of the century ,cause if Singers Concern is about not carrying 2 much baggage well I think that he is hawling the mother load on his back by trying to do a sequal on Superman II and bringing Zod and alll the other stuf along. Well here are my 10 cents on the matter

I agree. This movie will either put Superman back on the spotlight (which I'm doubting after the latest rumors) or will destroy the franchise for good. Just compare what the rumored story is with Spiderman 1 and 2 and the upcoming Batman Begins. . . .

[Thunder Emperor]

Hello Guys well im not a casual writer on this board but I do read what has been goin on and well here are my 10 cents on the matter at hand... Brandon Routh is an ok guy but for Superman I tend to be skeptick on that matter cause Superman has many faces. But Singer is not thinking clear since Brandon is only 25 (yes he looks older but he is still 25) and they have older looking actors that can play the part and also better looking. About this movie being a sequal, I dont like this Idea one bit cause it wont fit, and the part about Superman beign away for 6 years its just plain stupid and guys dont tell me that Superman dosnt age the same as any one cause that still dosent do it right cause Lois and Jimmy and Perry and Lex still do age and they will have to be way older than in the SUperman II movie. So I dont like that idea just one bit. My dream about this movie would have been that I took my son to the movies and a re-start would have been seen in the big screen and my son would have understood where Superman came from and what happend but now I have to explain to him where he came from and well another thing that I will have to explain is why the guy from TV (TOM WELLING/ He calls him SUPERMAN :) ) is not Superman . Some one said in this boards that every Decade we have a Superman and in the 70's we had Reeve and in the 90's we had Dean Cain and now we are goin to have 2 Superman(Welling / Routh)( Guys dont say that Welling is not Superman and that he is just Clark Kent cause u guy are wrong. Clark is Superman and Superman is the Costume), that is just 2 much to take in one decade. I just hope Singers re-considers this action and not make the mistake of the century ,cause if Singers Concern is about not carrying 2 much baggage well I think that he is hawling the mother load on his back by trying to do a sequal on Superman II and bringing Zod and alll the other stuf along. Well here are my 10 cents on the matter



I totally agree with you

[Thunder Emperor]

BALE OWNS AGAIN. :p


Yeah he does but I still prefer Bale and Tom welling

[Thunder Emperor]

Here's the Routh/Bale pic again.

http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v71/yarrum/batsup.jpg


God this guys is just not superman

[gdw]

Sorry, I lost my temper. I can't find the post, so I imagine it was already altered/deleted. again, sorry.

[darkzombiemutt]

So, how long do you think S-V is going to make us wait before the even acknowledge the Routh info? I mean, could something be fishy? Could the current Caviezel, and Routh rumors just be casting stunts? Or do you think they are just varifing info? Talk about slow on the draw. I know they want accurate info, but now many days are going to pass since this info hit before they act on it?

[muscles]

I think we could get something today

[C. Lee]

Sorry, I lost my temper. I can't find the post, so I imagine it was already altered/deleted. again, sorry.
I appreciate that...thank you.

[The Sage]

God this guys is just not superman

Luckily that picture is A) old, and B) before the makeover the actor will go through.

[GYVEN2FLY]

Oh my god my eyes hurt. 65 pages.

[GYVEN2FLY]

I am gone for 3 days to celebrate my anniversary, and I miss this. I am never leaving home again :)

[GYVEN2FLY]

Anyways, if this is true, I can see it work. After all if this is a continuation of Donner's work, then it would make sense to have someone who looks at least similar to CR. No he isn't a dead ringer, but he looks more like him that people like Bailey, Welling and JC to name a few (and I wouldn't have minded seeing Welling or JC in the role myself.) We really need to wait this out however and see what singer has in mind with this script of his before we get too jumpy.

[ultimatefan]

Well, we haven´t had either an official note from WB kind of announcement or a denial from either WB or Routh´s agent... So I guess the is he/is he not argument continues...

As I expected, people are judging Routh heavily based on their personal preferences and manips that won´t reflect the final look without even knowing his work... That´s fanboys for you. I find it funny to imagine what people would have said if there was Internet when the soaps star/skinny Chris Reeve got cast as Superman...

[triplet]

I just hope Singers re-considers this action and not make the mistake of the century ,cause if Singers Concern is about not carrying 2 much baggage well I think that he is hawling the mother load on his back by trying to do a sequal on Superman II and bringing Zod and alll the other stuf along. Well here are my 10 cents on the matter While I'm not sure Singer having cast Routh is the mistake of the century (even as much as I would have liked Welling in the role, I can't quite rise to that level of hyperbole), I am also very concerned about the story reports.

I would have preferred an origin story to all this vague sequel nonsese. Imitating Donner's work isn't an homage, it's a cop out.

[IT is Batgirl]

Has anyone called Routh's people yet? I have the info at the Brandon Routh Fan Club (www.geocities.com/BrandonRouthFanClub/brofc.html) under "Contact."

[Retroman]

Brandon is an awesome choice as Superman. I support Singer's descion.

[newbrando]

I find it funny to imagine what people would have said if there was Internet when the soaps star/skinny Chris Reeve got cast as Superman...

Just a note on these remarks… they are empty rebuttals because they could be used if ANYBODY were cast. For instance: Ralph Macchio is cast as Superman. People complain about it saying he doesn’t have the build, is a terrible actor, not suited for the role. Someone posts, “Well they said the same things about Reeve! Let’s not prejudge.” It doesn’t make sense.

When people criticized the casting of Reeve in the 70’s they were using BASELESS/ UNINFORMED arguments. People said Reeve couldn’t act BUT he was a classically trained stage actor. People said Reeve didn’t look the part BUT he was over 6’2 and had blue eyes. None of the critics of Routh are baseless because they are valid. Instead of Routh being a classically trained actor, we get an actor who was fired from a soap opera. Instead of Routh being as tall or taller than Reeve we get that he is 6’2 and must wear contacts. These critics of Routh are valid and not nitpicks. Go back and find that thread that listed what people felt they MUST see in Superman. Routh does not fit the criteria for obvious reasons and it’s annoying when people try to use the blanket, “Well, they criticized Reeve.” Let’s take each argument on its own merits instead of making blanket statements that trivialize people’s concerns.

Oh and so as not to be negative, I support Singer’s decision though. In truth, I feel like I just have to say that or someone’s going to jump on me. It’s like how people would get angry and say you didn’t support the troops whenever one would criticize the war after 9/11.

[2222]

I saw a manip with him haivng blue contacts and it looks cool, it kinda gives him a alien kind of look. Just like Superman

[muscles]

He might have two inch soles on the boots

[IT is Batgirl]

I saw a manip with him haivng blue contacts and it looks cool, it kinda gives him a alien kind of look. Just like Superman

Yup. It's a good manip.

[LexLuthor]

Lex Luthor here. I just watched ABC News entertainment segment (Channel 8 in Dallas, TX), and they announced Brandon Routh as Bryan Singer's choice to play the next Superman. They showed his Halloween pic of him in the Clark Kent/Superman outfit. They said something about Topher Grace trying out for Jimmy, and someone trying out for Lois Lane, but I missed that part. So, I guess things are really starting to shape up, hopefully for the best.

[raybia]

Hello Guys well im not a casual writer on this board but I do read what has been goin on and well here are my 10 cents on the matter at hand... Brandon Routh is an ok guy but for Superman I tend to be skeptick on that matter cause Superman has many faces. But Singer is not thinking clear since Brandon is only 25 (yes he looks older but he is still 25) and they have older looking actors that can play the part and also better looking. About this movie being a sequal, I dont like this Idea one bit cause it wont fit, and the part about Superman beign away for 6 years its just plain stupid and guys dont tell me that Superman dosnt age the same as any one cause that still dosent do it right cause Lois and Jimmy and Perry and Lex still do age and they will have to be way older than in the SUperman II movie. So I dont like that idea just one bit. My dream about this movie would have been that I took my son to the movies and a re-start would have been seen in the big screen and my son would have understood where Superman came from and what happend but now I have to explain to him where he came from and well another thing that I will have to explain is why the guy from TV (TOM WELLING/ He calls him SUPERMAN :) ) is not Superman . Some one said in this boards that every Decade we have a Superman and in the 70's we had Reeve and in the 90's we had Dean Cain and now we are goin to have 2 Superman(Welling / Routh)( Guys dont say that Welling is not Superman and that he is just Clark Kent cause u guy are wrong. Clark is Superman and Superman is the Costume), that is just 2 much to take in one decade. I just hope Singers re-considers this action and not make the mistake of the century ,cause if Singers Concern is about not carrying 2 much baggage well I think that he is hawling the mother load on his back by trying to do a sequal on Superman II and bringing Zod and alll the other stuf along. Well here are my 10 cents on the matter


There has been alot of recent information that has come out and so far none of it has been confirmed. I have to ask myself, what if Singer is as much of a fan of Superman as me or the rest us or even more. Don't you think he would share many of the concerns that we all share? And I'm also sure that he has played devil's advocate and asked, "If I cast Welling, I know that I will make fans of Smallville happy, but how will everyone else who are either not fans of the show, never seen it, or think that Welling does not fit the description, feel." As far as Caviezel, yeah maybe he would be a good Superman, but if the movie is a success, then how long could he play Superman until you have to recast because of noticable aging. Singer has to cast who he think will be best to not only please everyone, but to also please himself as a fan and a director. I will support Singer and go see this movie whether its Routh, Welling or Caviezel as Superman. Singer has to not only attract Smallville and Superman comic and movie fans, but also the mainstream audience as well. He has $200 million and his rep riding on this. Plus, unlike all of us, he is an accomplished, talented, and proven director and I trust that after the actors have been casted and the storyline has been confirmed that the direction he is taking will make more sense. I think most of us will be happy once we find out, but the real test is how all of the critics and public responds to it. He cannot make everyone happy in terms of casting, storyline, villian, costume, etc. but I think once this movie is made, inspite of any minor shortcoming, we will have a Superman movie that all fans will be proud of. (Even STM & S:II have many flaws.)

[IT is Batgirl]

Lex Luthor here. I just watched ABC News entertainment segment (Channel 8 in Dallas, TX), and they announced Brandon Routh as Bryan Singer's choice to play the next Superman. They showed his Halloween pic of him in the Clark Kent/Superman outfit. They said something about Topher Grace trying out for Jimmy, and someone trying out for Lois Lane, but I missed that part. So, I guess things are really starting to shape up, hopefully for the best.

Good. Bring on the media!

[IT is Batgirl]

Robert called Brandon's people. He said he got the "I can't say" line after some giggles from the secretary.

[raybia]

While I'm not sure Singer having cast Routh is the mistake of the century (even as much as I would have liked Welling in the role, I can't quite rise to that level of hyperbole), I am also very concerned about the story reports.

I would have preferred an origin story to all this vague sequel nonsese. Imitating Donner's work isn't an homage, it's a cop out.

We all have stories that we would prefer so there is no way Singer can please everyone with that, but this whole thing is vague to you because at this point it is vague. Singer has not confirmed the storyline, has given us bits and pieces, and clues. But I haven't seen anything yet to where it can be said he is imitating Donner or even critizing the guy as a cop out. Those who are familar with Singer's work and career should have some confidence that this is a guy who is competence and is a Superman fan. I think he'll rise to the occassion and prove the naysayers wrong.

[ultimatefan]

Lex Luthor here. I just watched ABC News entertainment segment (Channel 8 in Dallas, TX), and they announced Brandon Routh as Bryan Singer's choice to play the next Superman. They showed his Halloween pic of him in the Clark Kent/Superman outfit. They said something about Topher Grace trying out for Jimmy, and someone trying out for Lois Lane, but I missed that part. So, I guess things are really starting to shape up, hopefully for the best.
Hmm, this is getting a little too official to be just a publicity stunt. ABC News is a big thing, it´s not just another "rumor site" (not that SHH is such a thing, but you have the skepticals).

[triplet]

Robert called Brandon's people. He said he got the "I can't say" line after some giggles from the secretary.
This doesn't confirm anything, they could be getting a good laugh out of it because they're getting a million of these calls.

[blueboy]

i have no problem with him... i just want some conformation from the WB.... After all these years and rumors people do get skeptical..

[triplet]

Hmm, this is getting a little too official to be just a publicity stunt. ABC News is a big thing, it´s not just another "rumor site" (not that SHH is such a thing, but you have the skepticals).
I wouldn't be so sure. The rumor mill is just getting reported by the mainstream media. It's what passes for news, nowadays.

Both Warner's and Routh's agent have neither confirmed nor, interestingly enough, denied a thing...

It's looking good that he's got it, but nothing is official. Yet.

[MJZ]

Do you know what this whole thing reminds me of? HUGH DANCY WILL BE NOLAN'S BATMAN. "SIGNED, SEALED, AND DELIVERED."

Look how that turned out.

EDIT: Oops, I meant Hugh. I actually have a friend named Luke Dancy, that's why, heh. Hugh Dancy, the medic in Black Hawk Down, among other roles.

[IT is Batgirl]

Hmmm. Hugh Dancy... Meh.

[ultimatefan]

Do you know what this whole thing reminds me of? HUGH DANCY WILL BE NOLAN'S BATMAN. "SIGNED, SEALED, AND DELIVERED."

Look how that turned out.

EDIT: Oops, I meant Hugh. I actually have a friend named Luke Dancy, that's why, heh. Hugh Dancy, the medic in Black Hawk Down, among other roles.
Yeah but that was just an anonymous scoop, SHH never said it confirmed it with independent WB sources.

[Zing79]

Do you know what this whole thing reminds me of? HUGH DANCY WILL BE NOLAN'S BATMAN. "SIGNED, SEALED, AND DELIVERED."

Look how that turned out.

EDIT: Oops, I meant Hugh. I actually have a friend named Luke Dancy, that's why, heh. Hugh Dancy, the medic in Black Hawk Down, among other roles.
I want to believe...but we're on VERY different islands as to why. You want Cavz, and you know who I want :D

[MJZ]

Yeah but that was just an anonymous scoop, SHH never said it confirmed it with independent WB sources.

Just like their official Wayne Industries logo too right? Please.

Hey, just show me a press release and I'll bite.

Afterall, Millar claims his sources are "chums at WB." There's no denying the man knows people there. Interestingly, he also works on the title that Singer was going to write. Make of it what you will.

I also find it interesting that WB folks would risk telling Latino Review anything now, considering they were the ones behind the Batman Begins script leak.

[MJZ]

I want to believe...but we're on VERY different islands as to why. You want Cavz, and you know who I want :D

Oh I'd still take TW, and frankly, given all this "Donner sequel" talk (which I HATE), Welling would be the appropriate choice as opposed to Mr. Undressed. Cripes, what a ****e choice, DAMMIT! :D

[Pickle-El]

Just like their official Wayne Industries logo too right? Please.

Hey, just show me a press release and I'll bite.

Afterall, Millar claims his sources are "chums at WB." There's no denying the man knows people there. Interestingly, he also works on the title that Singer was going to write. Make of it what you will.

I also find it interesting that WB folks would risk telling Latino Review anything now, considering they were the ones behind the Batman Begins script leak.

Well then, let me ask you something. In this time of CR passing, it would be in horrible taste to start throwing publicity stunts in lieu to what has happened recently. Do you really think they would go that route?

No, you know why, because they know anything Superman related right now is a sensative issue....this woudl have been shot down by a WB representative by now.

[Zing79]

Oh I'd still take TW, and frankly, given all this "Donner sequel" talk (which I HATE), Welling would be the appropriate choice as opposed to Mr. Undressed. Cripes, what a ****e choice, DAMMIT! :D
If WB had laid down the law from the very beginning of Smallville I think they could have had a cash cow given the direction they're taking this film. If they had only made sure Smallville was a prequel to the movies, that the show would lead up to the first film, imagine the cash cow box set they could have released after Singer's movies were done.
Smallville series DVD, STM, SII, Singer's Superman Films. A $200 US box set we'd all happilly pay for.

[ultimatefan]

Just like their official Wayne Industries logo too right? Please.

Hey, just show me a press release and I'll bite.

Afterall, Millar claims his sources are "chums at WB." There's no denying the man knows people there. Interestingly, he also works on the title that Singer was going to write. Make of it what you will.

I also find it interesting that WB folks would risk telling Latino Review anything now, considering they were the ones behind the Batman Begins script leak.

They also didn´t say the logo was confirmed by WB that I recall.

Millar got a lot of details wrong with the McG/Singer thing. He said the movie wasn´t going to come out till 2007 and that the director´s movies had made billions at the BO.

[ultimatefan]

Well then, let me ask you something. In this time of CR passing, it would be in horrible taste to start throwing publicity stunts in lieu to what has happened recently. Do you really think they would go that route?

No, you know why, because they know anything Superman related right now is a sensative issue....this woudl have been shot down by a WB representative by now.
Yeah, a cheap publicity stunt - which is what this would be if isn´t true - would be in terrible taste so soon after Reeve´s death.

[MJZ]

Well then, let me ask you something. In this time of CR passing, it would be in horrible taste to start throwing publicity stunts in lieu to what has happened recently. Do you really think they would go that route?

No, you know why, because they know anything Superman related right now is a sensative issue....this woudl have been shot down by a WB representative by now.

Oh c'mon. This is getting sickening now. No offense, but some of you need to start letting go of Reeve. Yes, he was an admirable man and gave a historic performance, but I seem to be only one of a handful that can separate the character of Superman from the man Christopher Reeve. Superman existed long before Reeve played him on screen and will continue to do so after his passing. It's time to move on. I want something fresh, but that seems to be a minority position around here.

As far as "PR stunts" are concerned, I have no idea what Millar can mean by that, but why do you assume it's negative somehow? Isn't the whole point of PR stunts to drum up buzz and excitement for the product in question?

[MJZ]

They also didn´t say the logo was confirmed by WB that I recall.

Millar got a lot of details wrong with the McG/Singer thing. He said the movie wasn´t going to come out till 2007 and that the director´s movies had made billions at the BO.

Find us the original quote then. It's been awhile since I read it.

[ultimatefan]

I don´t have it either. I´m certain other posters can confirm it.

[Pickle-El]

Oh c'mon. This is getting sickening now. No offense, but some of you need to start letting go of Reeve. Yes, he was an admirable man and gave a historic performance, but I seem to be only one of a handful that can separate the character of Superman from the man Christopher Reeve. Superman existed long before Reeve played him on screen and will continue to do so after his passing. It's time to move on. I want something fresh, but that seems to be a minority position around here.

As far as "PR stunts" are concerned, I have no idea what Millar can mean by that, but why do you assume it's negative somehow? Isn't the whole point of PR stunts to drum up buzz and excitement for the product in question?

I think that first part about Reeve is pretty weak.....and I still don't understand why you take Millars word as if written in a holy scripture.

S-V has pretty much confirmed the story now...

[ultimatefan]

Oh c'mon. This is getting sickening now. No offense, but some of you need to start letting go of Reeve. Yes, he was an admirable man and gave a historic performance, but I seem to be only one of a handful that can separate the character of Superman from the man Christopher Reeve. Superman existed long before Reeve played him on screen and will continue to do so after his passing. It's time to move on. I want something fresh, but that seems to be a minority position around here.

As far as "PR stunts" are concerned, I have no idea what Millar can mean by that, but why do you assume it's negative somehow? Isn't the whole point of PR stunts to drum up buzz and excitement for the product in question?
It justs feels in poor taste to make a "publicity stunt" fake cast announcement less than a week after the much beloved actor who played Superman passed away.

[bytebuster]

It justs feels in poor taste to make a "publicity stunt" fake cast announcement less than a week after the much beloved actor who played Superman passed away.

:up: Agreed
There are much better ways to drum up support for the movie. This would be plain dumb

MJZ: I like Millar's writing a lot. But it ends there. I wouldn;t put too much stock in what he says

[BH/HHH]

This isn't a publicity stunt I wish WB's would just realy confirm this I so want it to be true and I am believing it.

[MJZ]

It justs feels in poor taste to make a "publicity stunt" fake cast announcement less than a week after the much beloved actor who played Superman passed away.

That's the thing. THERE HAS BEEN NO ANNOUNCEMENT. What's the old dictum? "Until it's reported in the trades, don't believe it."

[MJZ]

I think that first part about Reeve is pretty weak.....and I still don't understand why you take Millars word as if written in a holy scripture.

S-V has pretty much confirmed the story now...

Well I think the "we can't go on" attitude is pretty lame. Different strokes for different folks I guess.

Confirmed what? I know a thing or two about S-V, and they're merely repeating the latest news in their latest report.

Again, I'll bite when there's an official press release.

[bytebuster]

Well I think the "we can't go on" attitude is pretty lame. Different strokes for different folks I guess.

Confirmed what? I know a thing or two about S-V, and they're merely repeating the latest news in their latest report.

Again, I'll bite when there's an official press release.

MJZ, there is obviously something more than Millar's word that has you convinced that JC will don the cape. Cmon dude! What is it :D

[MJZ]

MJZ, there is obviously something more than Millar's word that has you convinced that JC will don the cape. Cmon dude! What is it :D

Just the sum total of all the events up to this point. And that Production Weekly listing helps, but most on here don't seem to give two ****s about it.

[The Sage]

Do you know what this whole thing reminds me of? HUGH DANCY WILL BE NOLAN'S BATMAN. "SIGNED, SEALED, AND DELIVERED."

Look how that turned out.

EDIT: Oops, I meant Hugh. I actually have a friend named Luke Dancy, that's why, heh. Hugh Dancy, the medic in Black Hawk Down, among other roles.

Show me the quote about Dancy delivered as Batman. I only remember reading about him testing for the role.

[MJZ]

Show me the quote about Dancy delivered as Batman. I only remember reading about him testing for the role.

I believe it was that bastion of journalistic accuracy, Dark Horizons.

[ultimatefan]

That's the thing. THERE HAS BEEN NO ANNOUNCEMENT. What's the old dictum? "Until it's reported in the trades, don't believe it."
But it has been stated all over the web and quoted WB as a source. If it isn´t true and they didn´t intend to put it out there, they should have denied it, especially in face of Reeve´s death.

[The Sage]

I believe it was that bastion of journalistic accuracy, Dark Horizons.

The same bastion you say can't be trusted. Wow what a trusted source!! :rolleyes:

Dismissed.

[The Singularity]

There is an oddity to the fact that we're still without official confirmation... although WB's "There is no official announcement at this time..." is intriguing. A change to the usual "cannot confirm nor deny those rumours". Still we wait and see. It seems that if it isn't going to be Routh then its going to be another total unknown. We all win.

[MJZ]

The same bastion you say can't be trusted. Wow what a trusted source!! :rolleyes:

Dismissed.

Hello? That's the point here, sailor boy.

[The Sage]

Hello? That's the point here, sailor boy.

It was only after SHH gave some confirmation did I start buying into the Routh rumor, and I'm still waiting for confirmation. :o

[The Sage]

There is an oddity to the fact that we're still without official confirmation... although WB's "There is no official announcement at this time..." is intriguing. A change to the usual "cannot confirm nor deny those rumours". Still we wait and see. It seems that if it isn't going to be Routh then its going to be another total unknown. We all win.

Yep.

[ultimatefan]

There is an oddity to the fact that we're still without official confirmation... although WB's "There is no official announcement at this time..." is intriguing. A change to the usual "cannot confirm nor deny those rumours". Still we wait and see. It seems that if it isn't going to be Routh then its going to be another total unknown. We all win.
A possible explanation for the delay in the official announcement is that Routh has a verbal agreement and they´re working out the details of the contract.

[The Singularity]

A possible explanation for the delay in the official announcement is that Routh has a verbal agreement and they´re working out the details of the contract.

True. Maybe Reeve's untimely passing threw a spanner in the works. Routh was signed sealed and delivered but before an announcement was made Reeve died. Announcement got delayed and word got out of Routh's involvement. WB probably don't want to be forced into announcing it. Either that they're just want to announce a Lois Lane and Lex Luthor all at the same time. Who knows? A myriad of possibilities.

[Ra's Al Fool]

now this is Brandon Routh as Superman.

http://www.fanartists.com/gallery/data/507/192sufortress2g.jpg


OMG,,,,,,,What the Hell is this?!?

Who wants this guy??? He looks like he would get back handed by one of the Olsen Twins, fall to the ground beggibg them to stop beating him in a sobbing cry! On behalf of these directors in my same age group,,,I AM SORRY>

lol

[ItsMeTrev]

That has to be the funniest shot I've seen yet.
Olsen Twins LOL!

[Serene]

I'm not really a huge MTV viewer (although I was back in the day,when they actually showed music videos;))... so what exactly is MTV Undressed?

[blueboy]

This is what I think of superman....



http://www.elmstreet.co.uk/nightmare6/favourite.jpg
































http://www.ebaumsworld.com/forumfun/newbie6.jpg

[johnsonuk]

This is what I think of superman....



http://www.elmstreet.co.uk/nightmare6/favourite.jpg
:rolleyes:

[IT is Batgirl]

Omg It's Meathead

[Surge92]

I think Brandon Routh will do just fine. I can't wait to see him in costume. He looks the part and is about the right age. I'm sure many people had the same criticisms about Christopher Reeve back in 1978. What I'm excited about is Singer's comments about all the equipment, etc. they have built to create the flying sequences, etc. Hopefully this means that a real live actor will do the flying, not some lame video game graphic (does anyone else think that ruined Spider-Man?). I'm praying that Singer follows the lead of Chris Nolan and bans all cheeseball cgi from this film. The fans deserve a superhero film that finally keeps it real.

[Pickle-El]

Omg It's Meathead

Looks like Freddy Krueger to me

[IT is Batgirl]

Looks like Freddy Krueger to me

No, the poster Meathead. Remember months ago he was saying how Superman is not a hero or something. That the real heroes are the firefighters and policemen and such....

[KrypJonian]

Good thing this has it's own thread :rolleyes:

But I agree with you

[green]

I'm not really a huge MTV viewer (although I was back in the day,when they actually showed music videos;))... so what exactly is MTV Undressed?



Serene, MTV undressed was a shortly lived sitcom like show that was suppose to be quite racey....it wasnt very good and didnt last very long. There should be some info and pics of it somewhere on the net, when I saw he was on it I searched but couldnt find much.

[IT is Batgirl]

Serene, MTV undressed was a shortly lived sitcom like show that was suppose to be quite racey....it wasnt very good and didnt last very long. There should be some info and pics of it somewhere on the net, when I saw he was on it I searched but couldnt find much.

I think I saw two episodes at a friend's house.

[KrypJonian]

Sing, what happened to the Blue font?

[SuperDaniel]

Phew...it's funny that the Wellingnites and the Caviezelholics will never accept that Tom Welling and Jim Caviezel are out....Look at the Tom Welling thread. They are as stubborn as a mule!!

[MEATHEAD22]

Omg It's Meathead
Did you miss me Batgirl?:rolleyes:

[topdog1]

Phew...it's funny that the Wellingnites and the Caviezelholics will never accept that Tom Welling and Jim Caviezel are out....Look at the Tom Welling thread. They are as stubborn as a mule!!

This isn't just fanboy sniveling. I can guarantee you that if Routh is Superman that many non-diehards won't pay to see this movie. I'm not a Superman diehard. I like the character and watch Smallville but I won't shovel out cash to support this film just because it's Superman. I know many friends and family who feel the same way. Welling would work as would an older, established actor. This casting news has turned me from a positive stance to a negative stance and I'm not alone. Remember the Catwoman Internet buzz? If this casting holds, I can guarantee you that the negative buzz around this film will hurt the bottom line down the road. I personally will look forward to bashing this film at every turn.

http://images5.fotki.com/v58/photos/6/66924/713212/thumbs_down-vi.jpg

[IT is Batgirl]

All right. Inside Edition reported on the rumor about Routh being cast. They showed two clips of Routh from Will and Grace and One Life to Live. He had one line in the W&G clip and his face was covered by the huge black cowboy hat the character wore. I will say that his voice sounded great; very manly. He's big too, lol. The second clip from OLTL was much longer. Great voice as well. The clip showed him slightly off profile. I have to say that the picture's we've seen online really suck at capturing how great he looks on film. I really do wish I taped the segment so I could watch the clips again.

Also, the host closed with "the WB couldn't comment because no contract has been signed yet."

[IT is Batgirl]

From www.etonline.com

Superman Lives On
October 19, 2004

After the recent, tragic death of 'Superman' actor CHRISTOPHER REEVE, it seems Warner Bros. is more anxious than ever to bring the legendary character he made so famous back to the big-screen. Although the company remains tight-lipped about who will play the caped superhero, several entertainment Web sites are hinting that a relatively unknown actor, BRANDON JAMES ROUTH, may just be their chosen one to take on the role. The 25-year-old reportedly got his start on soaps, such as "One Life to Live" and has also made guest appearances on shows like "Will & Grace" and "Gilmore Girls." The new anticipated 'Superman' movie, the first in almost 20 years, is reportedly set to begin filming in Australia early next year.

[IT is Batgirl]

www.imdb.com
More of the same...

Superman Finally Found
Director Bryan Singer has finally ended his quest to find an aspiring star capable of transporting Superman into the 21st century - he's settled on little known actor Brandon Routh. X-Men film-maker Singer signed up to direct Superman Returns in the summer and announced he was searching for an unknown actor to fill the Man of Steel's red boots - a role made famous by the late Christopher Reeve. And he deems 25-year-old Routh - whose resume is limited to a number of appearances in TV shows like Will & Grace - the perfect choice to reprise the comic book role, according to Britain's The Sun newspaper. Meanwhile, The OC star Mischa Barton and Topher Grace from That '70s Show are also reportedly in negotiations to play Lois Lane and Jimmy Olsen respectively.

[Thunder Emperor]

www.imdb.com
More of the same...

Superman Finally Found
Director Bryan Singer has finally ended his quest to find an aspiring star capable of transporting Superman into the 21st century - he's settled on little known actor Brandon Routh. X-Men film-maker Singer signed up to direct Superman Returns in the summer and announced he was searching for an unknown actor to fill the Man of Steel's red boots - a role made famous by the late Christopher Reeve. And he deems 25-year-old Routh - whose resume is limited to a number of appearances in TV shows like Will & Grace - the perfect choice to reprise the comic book role, according to Britain's The Sun newspaper. Meanwhile, The OC star Mischa Barton and Topher Grace from That '70s Show are also reportedly in negotiations to play Lois Lane and Jimmy Olsen respectively.

the only thing I am worried is that all these website are posting stuff they have no conformation for . I even saw a front page aricle the found the new superman with rouths picture on the newyork post

[IT is Batgirl]

They're all jumping on the bandwagon. There's no problem with that. It's just bringing exposure to Superman. And to Routh.

[Thunder Emperor]

They're all jumping on the bandwagon. There's no problem with that. It's just bringing exposure to Superman. And to Routh.
who Routh yes for superman yes and no if it is not true that is

[IT is Batgirl]

who Routh yes for superman yes and no if it is not true that is

I don't understand what you wrote. =[

[Thunder Emperor]

I don't understand what you wrote. =[



oopps I meant for an actor like Routh with no experince either it is great for him but for the studio it might not be good if there rumor is false and we come to know that there are the bastards that generated it in the first place

[Mace Bloodstone]

I hope Singer doesn't put rainbow colors on the "S" ...

[Ita-KalEl]

mmmh it seems like a really good marketing strategy. After the death of Reeve the WB's greatest problem is how to communicate to the world the fact that they've chosen their new superman. An official announcement? Probably not, too offensive after the tragic death of Christopher Reeve. Wait 2 or 3 mounths? But we have to move to Australia for November with the lead role cast...
So the the geniuses of WB thought that: an important cinema site will give the news under the form of "rumor" or "super scoop", so the new superman will be accepted by the world before an official announcement. Nobody will think about the "bad guys" of WB that have already forgotten Reeve, and the entire project will be able to go ahead without stops.

[The Guard]

How the hell would an official announcement from WB be considered disrepectful to Reeve? To whoever asked, a PR stunt isn't supposed to shock and amaze people...it's supposed to drum up interest in the film. And this is certainly doing that. Look at all the media outlets, as someone said, "jumping on the bandwagon".

[Wayne Banner]

Wait, what happened to whatshisname Jesus?

[Wayne Banner]

I hope Singer doesn't put rainbow colors on the "S" ...
Oh. cause He's gay. Yeah, that's pretty funny. I geuss. If that's what you like. Oh wait, I just got it on another level. Yeah ,I liked the first one better.

[triplet]

I think that first part about Reeve is pretty weak.....and I still don't understand why you take Millars word as if written in a holy scripture.

S-V has pretty much confirmed the story now...
Did they?

They basically said the same thing everyone else is saying: someone's signed but they won't say who... The suggestion is that it's Routh but no one's officially confirmed it.

[SuperDaniel]

Sorry but this story is in two many reliable sites to be just a rumour.

[triplet]

Sorry but this story is in two many reliable sites to be just a rumour.
But they're all reporting on the same report from Latinoreview... This is what passes for journalism nowadays: reporting on other people's reporting, without adequate confirmation.

No one has confirmed it. No one. Because Warner's isn't talking.

Does that mean Routh isn't the guy? Maybe, maybe not but we don't know because no one has confirmed a thing.

[The Sage]

I think the talk about the script could be a PR stunt....:o

[BK]

How I wish....

[The Sage]

You never know. Millar did mention PR stunts. And talking about the script so early. That would spoil the build up they blurted it out, wouldn't it?

[Thunder Emperor]

But they're all reporting on the same report from Latinoreview... This is what passes for journalism nowadays: reporting on other people's reporting, without adequate confirmation.

No one has confirmed it. No one. Because Warner's isn't talking.

Does that mean Routh isn't the guy? Maybe, maybe not but we don't know because no one has confirmed a thing.

could you tell me how to put an avatar up, casue i do have a pick i would like to use

[SuperDaniel]

But they're all reporting on the same report from Latinoreview... This is what passes for journalism nowadays: reporting on other people's reporting, without adequate confirmation.

No one has confirmed it. No one. Because Warner's isn't talking.

Does that mean Routh isn't the guy? Maybe, maybe not but we don't know because no one has confirmed a thing.

Superhero Hype confirmed the Brandon Routh story with WB. An official announcment is comming.

[ROBOCOP CPU001]

We should have been expecting an anouncement lets face it because of the untimely death of the only true Superman,now would be the perfect time to anounce the "new" superman.

Why? because everybody is interested in superman at the minute because of Mr Reeves death.

[triplet]

could you tell me how to put an avatar up, casue i do have a pick i would like to use
You have to get 300 posts first, then you go to the User CP link in the navigation bar. You change in there, under Options I think.

[triplet]

Superhero Hype confirmed the Brandon Routh story with WB. An official announcment is comming.But it's not official, you even said so yourself:

"An official announcement is comming."

It's not official, so how has SHH confirmed it? An anonymous source that may or may not be the same anonymous source for LR and DH and S-V, et al.

I won't totally buy Routh until I hear it officially. I'm a bit of a skeptic, but you can't blame me for that. There have been dozens of supposedly confirmed reports (albeit confirmed by anon. sources) on one aspect of this film or another that have later turned out to be false.

Everyone is reporting that Warner's is not saying anything and that LR and DH had anonymous tips that Routh is it.

Other than that, we got nothing in the way of facts here.

[King Krypton]

Superhero Hype confirmed the Brandon Routh story with WB. An official announcment is comming.

Assuming the negative reaction doesn't sway WB into scrapping Routh and denying he was ever in contention....

[JLR]

http://www.variety.com/index.asp?layout=upsell_article&articleID=VR1117912211&categoryID=13&cs=1

Routh is expected to sign, with production beginning next month.

EDIT:

Here's the article:
Though a deal has not yet been inked, relative unknown Brandon Routh is expected to take on the role of Superman for the long-in-the-works feature. Singer and his crew are headed to Australia next month to begin production.

Routh's credits include "One Life to Live," "Gilmore Girls," "Will & Grace" and "Cold Case." He recently wrapped his first feature role in "Deadly," starring opposite "That '70s Show" star Laura Prepon.

Routh, 25, was raised in Norwalk, Iowa, just 100 miles south of Woolstock -- the hometown of TV's original Superman, George Reeves.

Josh Hartnett (news) was at one time in contention for the role but rejected an offer from then-director Brett Ratner. Matt Bomer was Ratner's next choice, but the studio rejected "The Guiding Light" star.

When McG came on the project, he shot test footage with candidates including Jason Behr (news), Henry Cavill and Jared Padalecki.

[Lone]

THANK YOU JLR!!

Finally! :D

[IT is Batgirl]

Assuming the negative reaction doesn't sway WB into scrapping Routh and denying he was ever in contention....

That will be too bad though. Singer casts Routh but the internet 'geeks' don't like the choice because of some 5 year-old pictures with a less than Julliardian resume... *sigh*

[MJZ]

Bah, strangely still nothing concrete. Odd.

[Paul-el]

Yeah!!!!!!!!!!!!!

[IT is Batgirl]

Surprise!

[IT is Batgirl]

Bryan Singer appears to have found his Man of Steel. Though a deal has not yet been inked, relative unknown Brandon Routh is expected to take on the role of Superman for the long-in-the-works feature. Singer and his crew are headed to Australia next month to begin production....

[Lighthouse]

Though I think Routh is our next Superman, it won't be concrete until I hear a quote from Singer. Anyone remember the article about Hartnett and Ratner?

[SuperDaniel]

MJZ, or either you're very stupid or too blind to see the truth. Get over man. Routh is Superman! Who r you? Mark Millar??

[Pickle-El]

Thank You

[Ceb-Man]

Oh Yeah!
Variety confirms it! Variety is the source for all things Hollywood!
Brandon James Routh is the new Superman.
Millar better get that checkbook ready.

Take It To The Bank!
The Ceb-Man!

[IT is Batgirl]

Can someone get the whole story?

[Lone]

Bah, strangely still nothing concrete. Odd.

Hype confirmed it, S-V more or less confirmed it and now Variety.

Even if God Himself whispered it to you in your sleep you'd still say it wasn't concrete.

[bytebuster]

Can someone who has login acccess to variety post some excerpts from the full article

Thanks

[SuperDaniel]

Oh Yeah!
Variety confirms it! Variety is the source for all things Hollywood!
Brandon James Routh is the new Superman.
Millar better get that checkbook ready.

Take It To The Bank!
The Ceb-Man!

YEAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAHH!! The wait is finally over!!

[JLR]

Can someone get the whole story?

The full story should be up at http://news.yahoo.com/news?tmpl=index2&cid=1944 within the next few hours. Variety syndicates some of their news to Yahoo. I'd expect to see the full article soon. :)

[MJZ]

Morons. Hell Hulk pointed out the number of "verbal agreements" and "expected to signs" that have occured with this franchise.

Bale wasn't "expected to sign." He actually signed!

The drama continues, sigh.

At least it may prompt another response from Millar...

[IT is Batgirl]

The full story should be up at http://news.yahoo.com/news?tmpl=index2&cid=1944 within the next few hours. Variety syndicates some of their news to Yahoo. I'd expect to see the full article soon. :)

My thoughts exactly. Thank ye.

[BK]

Morons. Hell Hulk pointed out the number of "verbal agreements" and "expected to signs" that have occured with this franchise.

Bale wasn't "expected to sign." He actually signed!

The drama continues, sigh.

At least it may prompt another response from Millar...
What will you say when he does get signed?

[MJZ]

Hype confirmed it, S-V more or less confirmed it and now Variety.

Even if God Himself whispered it to you in your sleep you'd still say it wasn't concrete.

Aren't you cute. All I need is a press release from WB, just the same as they did with Bale.

[SuperDaniel]

It's funny how this JLR is the one who gets all the exclusives and scoops....intriguing...

[King Krypton]

That will be too bad though. Singer casts Routh but the internet 'geeks' don't like the choice because of some 5 year-old pictures with a less than Julliardian resume... *sigh*

Or because he's not Welling or Caviezel, which is the real issue with these complaints. People are mad because he's not THEIR pet actor.

I'm not getting my hopes up about his chances anymore. The fan reaction has been so disgusting that, frankly, I can easily see WB denying he was ever a candidate and giving him the boot. The formal announcement of his casting may NEVER come, and I'm beginning to think it never will. In which event, I will no longer support the movie, because I don't think it's right for such close-minded, selfish creeps to dictate what Singer, a guy who knows what he's doing, can and can't decide. I'm now at the point where I don't believe the "fans" have any right to say anything about the comic book movies, because I don't think they know the first thing they're talking about. The attacks on Routh are a case in point. Instead of giving him a fair chance, people are demanding his head on a stake. Does this seem right to you?

[JLR]

Here ya go, folks!

Though a deal has not yet been inked, relative unknown Brandon Routh is expected to take on the role of Superman for the long-in-the-works feature. Singer and his crew are headed to Australia next month to begin production.

Routh's credits include "One Life to Live," "Gilmore Girls," "Will & Grace" and "Cold Case." He recently wrapped his first feature role in "Deadly," starring opposite "That '70s Show" star Laura Prepon.

Routh, 25, was raised in Norwalk, Iowa, just 100 miles south of Woolstock -- the hometown of TV's original Superman, George Reeves.

Josh Hartnett (news) was at one time in contention for the role but rejected an offer from then-director Brett Ratner. Matt Bomer was Ratner's next choice, but the studio rejected "The Guiding Light" star.

When McG came on the project, he shot test footage with candidates including Jason Behr (news), Henry Cavill and Jared Padalecki.

[bytebuster]

Morons. Hell Hulk pointed out the number of "verbal agreements" and "expected to signs" that have occured with this franchise.


Agreed! But MJZ, how can you discount the fact that Singer et co in recent interviews have explicitly stated that they will be going with an unknown?

[Pickle-El]

Agreed! But MJZ, how can you discount the fact that Singer et co in recent interviews have explicitly stated that they will be going with an unknown?


:hyper:

[hickboy]

Wow, King Krypton, and you were so fair with Welling. Seems you do protest too much. You and others didn't like Welling and were more than willing and bit too eager to force your opinions on others. And now that others do the same thing you are complaining. Not fun is it? Well well well. Life sucks, get over it.

If you and others had been more open minded and fair you WOULD HAVE A POINT. But since you were not, you deserve the same. Should make you think the next time, shouldn't it?

[JLR]

It's funny how this JLR is the one who gets all the exclusives and scoops....intriguing...

I wouldn't call them "scoops." I just know where to look. I have sent news to sites like SHH and they are very late posting them. If you read most of my posts, much of the news, including Ottman, etc. was stuff I posted from stories... It's out there. I just happen to beat SHH! to the punch.

I also happen to run a rather large website that does work with companies like WB for their animation field. It's just a hobby, but it's fun. I'd cover superheroes, but it's a lot of work. :)

Anyway...I am psyched that we have some "close enough" to official news now. No more rumors. ;)

[IT is Batgirl]

FULL STORY (http://story.news.yahoo.com/news?tmpl=story&cid=1940&ncid=2020&e=1&u=/variety/20041019/va_fi_ne/singer_buffs_up_next_choice_for_superman)


Movies - Variety
Variety
Singer buffs up next choice for Superman

Tue Oct 19, 7:10 PM ET

Add to My Yahoo! Movies - Variety

Cathy Dunkley, STAFF

Bryan Singer appears to have found his Man of Steel.



Though a deal has not yet been inked, relative unknown Brandon Routh is expected to take on the role of Superman for the long-in-the-works feature. Singer and his crew are headed to Australia next month to begin production.

Routh's credits include "One Life to Live," "Gilmore Girls," "Will & Grace" and "Cold Case." He recently wrapped his first feature role in "Deadly," starring opposite "That '70s Show" star Laura Prepon.

Routh, 25, was raised in Norwalk, Iowa, just 100 miles south of Woolstock -- the hometown of TV's original Superman, George Reeves.

Josh Hartnett (news) was at one time in contention for the role but rejected an offer from then-director Brett Ratner. Matt Bomer was Ratner's next choice, but the studio rejected "The Guiding Light" star.

When McG came on the project, he shot test footage with candidates including Jason Behr (news), Henry Cavill and Jared Padalecki.

[Lone]

Aren't you cute.

Thanks..I get that a lot.

[King Krypton]

http://www.variety.com/index.asp?layout=upsell_article&articleID=VR1117912211&categoryID=13&cs=1

Routh is expected to sign, with production beginning next month.

On the one hand, I'm pleased to hear this. I WANT this guy to get it. If Singer thinks he's the guy, then he's the guy. That, and this role NEEDS an unknown.

On the other hand, I dread how much worse the backlash will get. It's already at the point of lynch-mob mentality. When the deal is done, what depths will the Singer/Routh haters sink to?

As for Mark Millar, I have only this to say:
http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v294/kingkrypton/ShutUpMillar.jpg

[IT is Batgirl]

On the one hand, I'm pleased to hear this. I WANT this guy to get it. If Singer thinks he's the guy, then he's the guy. That, and this role NEEDS an unknown.

On the other hand, I dread how much worse the backlash will get. It's already at the point of lynch-mob mentality. When the deal is done, what depths will the Singer/Routh haters sink to?

As for Mark Millar, I have only this to say:
http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v294/kingkrypton/ShutUpMillar.jpg


HEHE.

Oh, I think people will shut up once the WB releases some new pictures.

[IT is Batgirl]

Let's see what other news sites have to say. *drool*

[Xander]

Or because he's not Welling or Caviezel, which is the real issue with these complaints. People are mad because he's not THEIR pet actor.

I'm not getting my hopes up about his chances anymore. The fan reaction has been so disgusting that, frankly, I can easily see WB denying he was ever a candidate and giving him the boot. The formal announcement of his casting may NEVER come, and I'm beginning to think it never will. In which event, I will no longer support the movie, because I don't think it's right for such close-minded, selfish creeps to dictate what Singer, a guy who knows what he's doing, can and can't decide. I'm now at the point where I don't believe the "fans" have any right to say anything about the comic book movies, because I don't think they know the first thing they're talking about. The attacks on Routh are a case in point. Instead of giving him a fair chance, people are demanding his head on a stake. Does this seem right to you?
I couldn't have said it better myself, so I won't.

[SuperDaniel]

Milar, one advice to you. Keep writing comics but shut your big mouth up when regarding to movies.

[Michael Corleone]

Bah, strangely still nothing concrete. Odd.


It is strange isnt it? What is strange is way back when Welling was supposedly supposed to sign(if there was any truth to it) and now someone is expected to sign? I'd like to know what this deal is their offering. Not to say Routh is reluctant but why it is taking so much for them to sign on?

but im just speculating.

[IT is Batgirl]

It is strange isnt it? What is strange is way back when Welling was supposedly supposed to sign(if there was any truth to it) and now someone is expected to sign? I'd like to know what this deal is their offering. Not to say Routh is reluctant but why it is taking so much for them to sign on?

but im just speculating.

I'm thinking Routh is going to need a lawyer to go over the paperwork and talk about a deal.

[Pickle-El]

On the one hand, I'm pleased to hear this. I WANT this guy to get it. If Singer thinks he's the guy, then he's the guy. That, and this role NEEDS an unknown.

On the other hand, I dread how much worse the backlash will get. It's already at the point of lynch-mob mentality. When the deal is done, what depths will the Singer/Routh haters sink to?

As for Mark Millar, I have only this to say:
http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v294/kingkrypton/ShutUpMillar.jpg


Someone HAS TO post this on Millars website!!!!!!!

[King Krypton]

I never accused Welling of being gay, of "robbing" someone else of a job, or taken anti-Semetic swipes at him the way the Routh-bashers have attacked Routh. I've only criticized his looks and acting ability. I NEVER sank to the depths Routh's attackers have. Further, Welling has a body of work that can be judged. Routh doesn't.

And believe me, as much as I dislike Welling, it doesn't even BEGIN to compare to the hatred I have toward the people who've been spreading slander around here. I even stuck up for Welling when people tried to use Reeve's death as an excuse to guilt Welling into replacing him. I think that's MORE than fair to the man.

[Michael Corleone]

Yeah...they must have just "offered" it to him.

[IT is Batgirl]

http://img73.exs.cx/img73/1212/brandonrouth21.jpg

DAMMIT!!!!!

[The Sage]

Wow, King Krypton, and you were so fair with Welling. Seems you do protest too much. You and others didn't like Welling and were more than willing and bit too eager to force your opinions on others. And now that others do the same thing you are complaining. Not fun is it? Well well well. Life sucks, get over it.

If you and others had been more open minded and fair you WOULD HAVE A POINT. But since you were not, you deserve the same. Should make you think the next time, shouldn't it?

Open minded and fair huh? Tell me, are you okay with the possible casting of Routh? Are you with Singer on it?

[The Sage]

I never accused Welling of being gay, of "robbing" someone else of a job, or taken anti-Semetic swipes at him the way the Routh-bashers have attacked Routh. I've only criticized his looks and acting ability. I NEVER sank to the depths Routh's attackers have. Further, Welling has a body of work that can be judged. Routh doesn't.

And believe me, as much as I dislike Welling, it doesn't even BEGIN to compare to the hatred I have toward the people who've been spreading slander around here. I even stuck up for Welling when people tried to use Reeve's death as an excuse to guilt Welling into replacing him. I think that's MORE than fair to the man.

Those last two sentences are dead on. :up:

[JLR]

I assume we shall hear from Warner Bros. very soon if production begins next month. The next few weeks are going to be big for fans!

On an unrelated note: Brandon is going to need a bigger web server. ;)

[The Sage]

On the one hand, I'm pleased to hear this. I WANT this guy to get it. If Singer thinks he's the guy, then he's the guy. That, and this role NEEDS an unknown.

On the other hand, I dread how much worse the backlash will get. It's already at the point of lynch-mob mentality. When the deal is done, what depths will the Singer/Routh haters sink to?

As for Mark Millar, I have only this to say:
http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v294/kingkrypton/ShutUpMillar.jpg

I'd like to see what Routh's detractors say when we get a new pic of the guy. Could change a lot of tones...

[MJZ]

I'm thinking Routh is going to need a lawyer to go over the paperwork and talk about a deal.

Yeah, he gets just so many bloody offers, ha.

[IT is Batgirl]

I assume we shall hear from Warner Bros. very soon if production begins next month. The next few weeks are going to be big for fans!

On an unrelated note: Brandon is going to need a bigger web server. ;)

Ha..yes. And me too. *SIGH*





Brandon's going to need this:


http://msnbcmedia.msn.com/j/msnbc/Components/Photos/041011/041011_superman_cape_bcol.small.jpg

[Pickle-El]

This kids world is gonna get turned upside down...I wish him luck. There's no hiding under a mask ala Spiderman or Batman....

[MJZ]

It is strange isnt it? What is strange is way back when Welling was supposedly supposed to sign(if there was any truth to it) and now someone is expected to sign? I'd like to know what this deal is their offering. Not to say Routh is reluctant but why it is taking so much for them to sign on?

but im just speculating.

Certainly odd. Didn't expect the full article to be so short and vague. Interesting how they point out all the past contenders and how they never came to pass. Just re-inforces the fact that nothing's a done deal.

And no, I'm not in denial. Just give me an official press release, and if Routh is there on the first day of shooting then I'll believe it.

[IT is Batgirl]

Yeah, he gets just so many bloody offers, ha.

With a movie as GARGANTUAN as this, I don't think anyone would just sign blindly on the proverbial dotted line.........................

[Pickle-El]

SHH just put it up on the mainpage....

[JLR]

This kids world is gonna get turned upside down...I wish him luck. There's no hiding under a mask ala Spiderman or Batman....

Most definitely. I wish him the best of luck. Being cast in this movie in the lead role will most certainly be his career "defining" role. He's going to be Superman to a whole new generation of fans. Pretty exciting, if you ask me!

[triplet]

Or because he's not Welling or Caviezel, which is the real issue with these complaints. People are mad because he's not THEIR pet actor.

I'm not getting my hopes up about his chances anymore. The fan reaction has been so disgusting that, frankly, I can easily see WB denying he was ever a candidate and giving him the boot. The formal announcement of his casting may NEVER come, and I'm beginning to think it never will. In which event, I will no longer support the movie, because I don't think it's right for such close-minded, selfish creeps to dictate what Singer, a guy who knows what he's doing, can and can't decide. I'm now at the point where I don't believe the "fans" have any right to say anything about the comic book movies, because I don't think they know the first thing they're talking about. The attacks on Routh are a case in point. Instead of giving him a fair chance, people are demanding his head on a stake. Does this seem right to you?Maybe it's not right, but it's true and like it or not the fans (here and elsewhere) that are complaining are Superman's fan base.

As anyone politician knows: you don't want to alienate your base.

You go against your base, you might as well pack it up and pack it in. Take that Catwoman film for example.

That disaster is still fresh in Warner's cultural consciousness. So I wouldn't blame Warner's for stepping back and a taking a very deep breath before they make anything official.

Perhaps the "publicity stunt" faction isn't entirely wrong. Maybe this isn't a stunt, maybe the leak is Warner's testing the waters...

That I'd buy.