The Official Tom Welling Thread

[KalKai]

It was similar to that in Season 2.

[Kane]

I cant remember. Its all the same to me.

[DvilDog]

Wait i got its this it guys. Clark cant fly yet because he has too much hair. And its not aero-dynamic enough to help him stay off the ground. So slick it down with glue and add a couple ailerons and TEFS and lets get him off the ground in season 6

[DvilDog]

Wow i need to go to bed LOL:)

[BareKnucklez]

Wow i need to go to bed LOL:)

heh don't forget to...
http://i2.tinypic.com/zmgsxt.jpg

:p

[DvilDog]

wow he almost looks sinister in that pic. thats pretty sweet

[KalKai]

http://img370.imageshack.us/img370/632/f3917382aad022cc8d86e8bca18455.jpg

http://img63.imageshack.us/img63/9907/7aef4b5b1ae901a208831ea4b59256.jpg

[green]

Dayum....they need to let Tommy grow a beard more often.:up:

[user123456789]

When were those taken?

[KalKai]

Today lol.

[user123456789]

Today lol.
Is there a link to view all pics? Any group shots?

[KalKai]

No group shots.

http://tomwelling.org/multimedia/appearance_2006-05-18_cw_upfront/
http://www.kristinkreukweb.com/gallery/thumbnails.php?album=243

Allison, Michael, Erica and Annette - http://editorial.gettyimages.com/source/search/FrameSet.aspx?s=EventImagesSearchState%7c0%7c1%7c0 %7c28%7c0%7c0%7c0%7c1%7c0%7c0%7c0%7c57635513%7c0%7 c0%7c0%7c0%7c0%7c%7c%7c0%7c0%7c0%7c0%7c0&p=&tag=4

[KalKai]

I just noticed, Batista and Booker T were there too lol.

[AgentPat]

http://img370.imageshack.us/img370/632/f3917382aad022cc8d86e8bca18455.jpg

http://img63.imageshack.us/img63/9907/7aef4b5b1ae901a208831ea4b59256.jpghttp://www.patcostello.com/smileys/shocked.gif

Oh my ****'n... GAAAAHHHHHD!!!!!!!!














http://www.patcostello.com/smileys/ghost.gif

[Zing79]

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That's my day right there

[MJZ]

Eh, the facial hair doesn't work for him.

[avidreader]

Eh, the facial hair doesn't work for him.

You are kidding right? :eek: He's such a handsome devil.


My hubby always stops shaving during vacation time. Surely you guys can relate.

[user123456789]

Eh, the facial hair doesn't work for him.

IMO it's his hair. He needs to trim the sides/back.

[MJZ]

You are kidding right? :eek: He's such a handsome devil.


My hubby always stops shaving during vacation time. Surely you guys can relate.

Sure me too but he looks like a street bum or something. :)

Maybe it's the stache.

[rumpuso]

Oh I don't know, I think his long, curly hair, smokey eyes, close cropped beard and "Dare me" expression is working quite well for him.

But that's just me.

(And Pat up there too, apparently. LOL)

(and Avid, ...)

[MJZ]

No group shots.

http://tomwelling.org/multimedia/appearance_2006-05-18_cw_upfront/
http://www.kristinkreukweb.com/gallery/thumbnails.php?album=243

Allison, Michael, Erica and Annette - http://editorial.gettyimages.com/source/search/FrameSet.aspx?s=EventImagesSearchState%7c0%7c1%7c0 %7c28%7c0%7c0%7c0%7c1%7c0%7c0%7c0%7c57635513%7c0%7 c0%7c0%7c0%7c0%7c%7c%7c0%7c0%7c0%7c0%7c0&p=&tag=4

Tyra Banks sure looks great. Dayum!

[MJZ]

IMO it's his hair. He needs to trim the sides/back.

Everyone wants to be Johnny Damon anymore. ;)

[AgentPat]

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That's my day right thereYou? That's my freakin' YEAR. Holy coronary, Batman! That moment when I clicked on this thread... UNBELIEVABLE. There are no words. Honest.

DTS has a whole bunch of 'em up.

I'm over the utter shock of it all, but I still can't take my eyes off these pics. Jeezes!!!

http://www.patcostello.com/temp/cw-upfronts06-1.jpg

[The Incredible Hulk]

did Welling and Rosenbaum have an offseason beard competition? LOL I think I could take them, my goatee is coming in quite nicely....

[Zing79]

Tyra Banks sure looks great. Dayum!
Look again my man...you'll NEVER see her the same way again...there's one high rez image kicking around from that event that will scare the holy crap out of you.
Actually let me save you the trouble -- ph33r (http://idontlikeyouinthatway.com/image_pages/tbcwhires.html)!!

[Zing79]

You? That's my freakin' YEAR. Holy coronary, Batman! That moment when I clicked on this thread... UNBELIEVABLE. There are no words. Honest.

DTS has a whole bunch of 'em up.

I'm over the utter shock of it all, but I still can't take my eyes off these pics. Jeezes!!!

http://www.patcostello.com/temp/cw-upfronts06-1.jpg
You know I'm talking about your reaction right?? Just to be sure...
Reaction = priceless
Tom = i'm straight

Just sayin, that's all :)

[KalKai]

Nice mustache Tyra.. LOL.

[MJZ]

What a buzz kill. Thanks Zing. :(

[Zing79]

Nice mustache Tyra.. LOL.
I can only see it once without a near gag reflex.

[AgentPat]

You know I'm talking about your reaction right?? Just to be sure...
Reaction = priceless
Tom = i'm straight

Just sayin, that's all :)No need to explain. I knew what you were talking about.

And yes, I did completely and utterly sliiiiiide off my chair *ahem* when I saw that first shot. :O

[Zing79]

What a buzz kill. Thanks Zing. :(
Just saving you from the inevitable ackward moment, when you and Tira are about to make out (it could happen), and you came face to face with that stash.

See now you can focus on other better things. Like Erica and her plastic ;)

[MJZ]

Just saving you from the inevitable ackward moment, when you and Tira are about to make out (it could happen), and you came face to face with that stash.

See now you can focus on other better things. Like Erica and her plastic ;)

She loves showin them off. :up:

I didn't even recognize Rosenbaum in there.

Damn looks like Sam from Supernatural's been working out.

[triplet]

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That's my day right there

LOL!

Too funny....

Yeah. He's looking awesome but those shoes... brown shoes with a black suit?

Yikes...

http://i32.photobucket.com/albums/d36/suetomup/CWUP_038.jpg

Poor Tom can't dress himself.... ;)

Oh, well. He's still gorgeous.

[The Incredible Hulk]

thats probably like a $2,000 suit he has on...judging by the cut

[MJZ]

EDIT: Double-post.

[triplet]

Look again my man...you'll NEVER see her the same way again...there's one high rez image kicking around from that event that will scare the holy crap out of you.
Actually let me save you the trouble -- ph33r (http://idontlikeyouinthatway.com/image_pages/tbcwhires.html)!!

Hasn't she ever heard of waxing?

:eek:

Yikes...

[The Incredible Hulk]

I wouldnt kick her out of bed for having that moustache.... now if she started talking on the other hand.... ;)

[triplet]

thats probably like a $2,000 suit he has on...judging by the cut

And those are probably $200 shoes, but he still shouldn't wear them together...

[AgentPat]

:confused:

Shoes? You guys are talking about SHOES?

:rolleyes:

Wow!

:p

<- Didn't even SEE the shoes, much less notice what color they were.

[The Incredible Hulk]

And those are probably $200 shoes, but he still shouldn't wear them together...

why not? You can wear redish/brown shoes with a dark blue suit......:supes:

[jas01724]

why not? You can wear redish/brown shoes with a dark blue suit......:supes:Of course "can wear" doesn't necessarily equate to "should wear". :p

[AgentPat]

why not? You can wear redish/brown shoes with a dark blue suit......:supes:http://www.patcostello.com/smileys/hahaha.gif



Niiiiice!!! :up: :D

[user123456789]

rofl at toms shoes.

[avidreader]

Oh I don't know, I think his long, curly hair, smokey eyes, close cropped beard and "Dare me" expression is working quite well for him.

But that's just me.

(And Pat up there too, apparently. LOL)

(and Avid, ...)

Without a doubt! And double ditto to everything you said. :up: :)

[avidreader]

And those are probably $200 shoes, but he still shouldn't wear them together...

Maybe he forgot to pack his black ones. :)

The suit may not be as dark as it appears on camera, in which case dark tan shoes would work.

[Milkman95]

Clean yourself up Tom, yikes.........

[avidreader]

Clean yourself up Tom, yikes.........

He's probably giving his face a well deserved rest from shaving twice to three times a day.

[Milkman95]

^True..........I hate shaving..........

[AgentPat]

He's probably giving his face a well deserved rest from shaving twice to three times a day.He should "rest" more often. http://www.patcostello.com/smileys/lick.gif

[Kaboom]

yea, tom and mike seem to be sporting full beards. chad michael murray looks like he tried to get in on the action. unfortunaetly, it looks like he has not been through puberty yet, and cant grow a full one.

[user123456789]

Maybe he forgot to pack his black ones. :)

The suit may not be as dark as it appears on camera, in which case dark tan shoes would work.

lol avid, come on now.

[user123456789]

He's probably giving his face a well deserved rest from shaving twice to three times a day.
2-3x a day!?!?! WTF?!?! How do you know? And isn't that freakishly abnormal fast growth?
yea, tom and mike seem to be sporting full beards. chad michael murray looks like he tried to get in on the action. unfortunaetly, it looks like he has not been through puberty yet, and cant grow a full one.
rofl I saw him... yea he looks like keanu reeves with missing patches here and there

[triplet]

2-3x a day!?!?! WTF?!?! How do you know? And isn't that freakishly abnormal fast growth?

He can't really have any five o'clock shadow in the show so he has to shave at least twice, sometimes three times if he's working an especially long day.

There's only so much make-up can do to cover up the stubble...

[user123456789]

He can't really have any five o'clock shadow in the show so he has to shave at least twice, sometimes three times if he's working an especially long day.

There's only so much make-up can do to cover up the stubble...

damn im glad im asian. no suspect no beard for years to come. rofl :up:

[Serene]

Gotta tell ya... seeing these new pics from the CW thing TOTALLY makes it worth dragging myself out of bed.

Dayumm.. who needs painkillers when there pictures like these to look at. :eek:

They need to bottle these pictures and sell them as a cure-all. ;)

http://img78.imageshack.us/img78/9039/cwuptom45jx.jpg

http://img286.imageshack.us/img286/2590/cwupboys5rf.jpg

[avidreader]

lol avid, come on now.

I was just trying to cut him some slack seeing as how everyone seemed to be on his case about the shoes. ;) :)

[avidreader]

Gotta tell ya... seeing these new pics from the CW thing TOTALLY makes it worth dragging myself out of bed.

Dayumm.. who needs painkillers when there pictures like these to look at. :eek:

They need to bottle these pictures and sell them as a cure-all. ;)

http://img78.imageshack.us/img78/9039/cwuptom45jx.jpg

http://img286.imageshack.us/img286/2590/cwupboys5rf.jpg

I'm sorry, I just had to quote it. Damn that's hot stuff!

Hope you feelin' better Serene.

Kisses and hugs.

[Darthphere]

Was a beard required for this event?

[user123456789]

Tom probably grew out his beard to show he's NOT the 19 year old kid on smallville in real life.

[AgentPat]

The suit may not be as dark as it appears on camera, in which case dark tan shoes would work.Yeah, they'll brighten the colors up in post...

Oh wait... you were talking about the Upfronts?

:p

Killer pics, Rene! And you're gonna laugh, but I know somebody who looks very close to that picture of Welling with Ackles. Took me a second to realize it, but then it hit me. Wow! They're almost like twins.

[Scooter]

That guy from Supernatural is tall...

[user123456789]

That guy from Supernatural is tall...

Maybe he's standing on a box :p

[KalKai]

He is, he's 6'4.

[AgentPat]

Oh, this is priceless! Here's a blurb in the latest PeopleNews about the CW upfronts:

The crowd cheered for Supernatural stars Jensen Ackles and Jared Padalecki, who appeared alongside Smallville's teen Superman, Tom Welling. Ackles couldn't help but tease Welling: "I think you look amazing in tights," he joked. "Tommy Tights is all I'm saying." Makes ya wonder if this sort of taunt is an on-going joke with Welling. :p

http://people.aol.com/people/articles/0,19736,1196079,00.html

[KalKai]

LOL I wish we had a video of that.

[AgentPat]

LOL I wish we had a video of that.Yeah, that WOULD be cute! LOL

[Serene]

That's okay.. Tom got him back.. ;)

From TheWashingtonPost:
The WB's teen-angst Superman drama "Smallville" will be followed by the WB's teen-angst paranormal drama "Supernatural" on Thursday nights. "Smallville" star Tom Welling, looking like he spent hours in front of the mirror, came onstage with the two guy leads from "Supernatural" to entertain the several hundred ad execs with his clever banter about how the "Supernatural" guys always are also behind him on the golf course. Okay, that one wasn't cynical; that was just snark.

[AgentPat]

^ These are great anecdotes. Keep 'em coming. :D :up:

[user123456789]

I don't get the golf one :confused:

[Serene]

I don't get the golf one :confused:
The implication is that he beats them in golf as well. Jensen mentioned in an interview a while back that he plays golf with Tom.

This is so cute. Look at the belt buckle on the "Everybody Loves Chris" kid.

I believe the credit goes to Jana for this one..
http://img392.imageshack.us/img392/2745/chadmichaemazur86990556006ok.jpg

[MJZ]

The implication is that he beats them in golf as well. Jensen mentioned in an interview a while back that he plays golf with Tom.

This is so cute. Look at the belt buckle on the "Everybody Loves Chris" kid.

I believe the credit goes to Jana for this one..
http://img392.imageshack.us/img392/2745/chadmichaemazur86990556006ok.jpg

Great pic. :up:

[Kaboom]

i like his belt buckle

[Serene]

Two more fun with boys pictures...

I can hardly imagine having all that hotness in one room...

http://img530.imageshack.us/img530/3787/cwupboys32gh.jpg

I think I'll have to photoshop the luckybitsch out of this one and put me in there instead. ;) :D
http://img312.imageshack.us/img312/9688/cwupboys22oh.jpg

*not sure where I snagged these from (my brain is still hazy, okay?) either DTS or someone's LJ.

[avidreader]

The implication is that he beats them in golf as well. Jensen mentioned in an interview a while back that he plays golf with Tom.

This is so cute. Look at the belt buckle on the "Everybody Loves Chris" kid.

I believe the credit goes to Jana for this one..
http://img392.imageshack.us/img392/2745/chadmichaemazur86990556006ok.jpg

Is this shot from yesterday? They changed their clolthes.

[KikiDee]

i like his belt buckle

http://img392.imageshack.us/img392/2745/chadmichaemazur86990556006ok.jpg

Didn't anyone tell him Tom isn't playing Superman?;)

[KikiDee]

Two more fun with boys pictures...

I can hardly imagine having all that hotness in one room...

http://img530.imageshack.us/img530/3787/cwupboys32gh.jpg

I think I'll have to photoshop the luckybitsch out of this one and put me in there instead. ;) :D
http://img312.imageshack.us/img312/9688/cwupboys22oh.jpg

*not sure where I snagged these from (my brain is still hazy, okay?) either DTS or someone's LJ.

Hee, I agree with you on about the midget woman. Is that Dawn? I wish Tom had smiled in more of the pics. He just lights up the room when he smiles.

[avidreader]

Hey, I snagged these from DTTW
http://i32.photobucket.com/albums/d36/suetomup/CWTomWelling2.jpg

http://i32.photobucket.com/albums/d36/suetomup/CWTomWelling.jpg

[avidreader]

http://i32.photobucket.com/albums/d36/suetomup/CWTomWelling4.jpg

http://i32.photobucket.com/albums/d36/suetomup/CWTomWelling3.jpg

http://i32.photobucket.com/albums/d36/suetomup/CWTomWelling6.jpg

http://i32.photobucket.com/albums/d36/suetomup/CWTomWelling5.jpg

[KalKai]

Nice, CAREFUL TOM BOOKER T IS BEHIND YOU LOL.

[KalKai]

Tom signing autographs:

http://img156.imageshack.us/img156/6240/000t9re94ih.gif

http://img156.imageshack.us/img156/6806/000taeyg1qh.gif

http://img156.imageshack.us/img156/1226/000tbeth7ra.gif

http://img156.imageshack.us/img156/7290/000tcc0c9dl.gif

Thanks to http://ladyjaida.livejournal.com/ & http://tomwelling.org/

[AgentPat]

These are AWESOME photos! It's so cool to see the actors outside of their on screen roles. Big thank yous to everybody posting. :up: :up: :up:

[user123456789]

rofl looks like Tom has his own secret service... wtf?

[MJZ]

Tom looks like he's ready to sell a '76 Oldsmobile.

[Serene]

Anyone else think about all these new pictures -- aaaallll night?
Just me? Okay then. :O

So what I kept wondering (that I can share ;)) is if he's growing his hair out and going all Grizzly Adams for a reason other than - just because he can.

Although, if he had a movie role lined up for this hiatus, it seems like he would have had to start on it already. Maybe he's taking this summer off.. a little personal R&R?

Oh, and while snooping blogs last night, I did read in one girl's that her friend "met" Tom in Vegas, at the Bellagio (of course!), Thursday night.. I think. Could just be a bit of teen-inflated braggadocio.. but who knows? Maybe a pit-stop between Vancouver and NY?

Vegas and Tom.. my brain would literally explode.

[AgentPat]

...I did read in one girl's that her friend "met" Tom in Vegas, at the Bellagio (of course!), Thursday night...I think you might have just bummed out MJZ a wee bit. I know I would be considering, where MJZ works. :eek:

[triplet]

Something might be up with the slightly more trim look combined with the longer hair... he'd let his hair grow out the last few episodes and the only time he'd done that before was last season when he was Nick Castle on the weekeneds...

If he's working on something, it's pretty low key since no one's heard about it so maybe it's unlikely.

I think it's possible he's just taking the summer off from shaving and having his hair cut... he's done that before, hasn't he?

[rumpuso]

Could be possible that his time in the Phantom Zone is longer than we anticipate. No way to cut his hair inside that thing, I imagine.

And yes Serene, I definitely have thought of these pictures one hour too many. :)

[Kaboom]

Could be possible that his time in the Phantom Zone is longer than we anticipate. No way to cut his hair inside that thing, I imagine.

And yes Serene, I definitely have thought of these pictures one hour too many. :)

Super-mullet Returns!

[MJZ]

I think you might have just bummed out MJZ a wee bit. I know I would be considering, where MJZ works. :eek:

Heh well I'm a big fan of him on the show but am not interested in him the way you ladies are. :)

Anywho, haven't heard anything about any TW sightings here, he doesn't strike me as the type but anything's possible. We've got the rich and famous coming in and out of here by the hour. Clint Eastwood walked past me once, which was a real thrill. My friend ran up and shook his hand, but she's a really hot blonde so she was able to get away with it. I think I would've been KO'd.

Saw Pam Anderson too once. Surprisingly, she's quite stunning in person.

[KalKai]

http://img122.imageshack.us/img122/445/twcast9wt.jpg

[user123456789]

awesome pic

who's the guy in the middle?

[triplet]

awesome pic

who's the guy in the middle?

He's probably a network suit.... He looks somewhat familiar, but I'm not sure where I've seen him before.

[The Caped Knight]

http://img122.imageshack.us/img122/445/twcast9wt.jpg

Who's the guy in the middle ?

[The Kid]

wow tom looks like jesus christ

[bulok]

are they all wearing black to mourn the loss of WB? i was pretty peeved when i found out about the sale of WB. No more Smallville freebies for me >:(

[KalKai]

http://xs100.xs.to/xs100/06200/twcast2.jpg

[avidreader]

Keep 'em coming Kal. These are great.

That reception place looks neat.

[Sawyer]

Tom looks like Lionel...

[user123456789]

Who's the guy in the middle ?

Looks like a younger Emeril Lagasse.

[The Kid]

Who else thinks they should go with this look for the show?

[rumpuso]

http://img122.imageshack.us/img122/445/twcast9wt.jpg
I didn't realize that Tom was that much taller than Erica. I knew, of course, that he was taller, but that picture is quite telling.

[Serene]

I didn't realize that Tom was that much taller than Erica. I knew, of course, that he was taller, but that picture is quite telling.

Great picture, KalKai! :up:

I saw a picture of Erica not too long ago, and was surprised at how petite she looked. I would assume that all the girls have heels on in that picture too.

[Whiteflag]

Great pictures, Kalkai. Thanks!

[Lara]

That's actually my favorite look for him with the longer hair and beard. I don't think I'm ever going to get that period movie though =(

[AgentPat]

That's actually my favorite look for him with the longer hair and beard.:up: :D

I'm with ya girl!

http://www.patcostello.com/temp/swordfish2.jpg

I don't think I'm ever going to get that period movie though =(Give him time. ;)

[triplet]

I'm with ya girl!

http://www.patcostello.com/temp/swordfish2.jpg

I'm with you both... yummilicious.

:up: :D

Give him time. ;)

I hope he does something this summer and that's why he's growing out the beard and hair.... :(

I would love to have that look permenantly in DVD form anyway... ;)

[Whiteflag]

So beautiful!

I wish he did something this summer, but at the same time I'd like himto rest. He works too hard the rest of the year.

He's the only man I find adorable with a beard. And I definitely LOVE the long hair!

[AgentPat]

I hope he does something this summer and that's why he's growing out the beard and hair.... I just figured that was his relaxed-for-the-summer look. They start back up in July sometime, so he doesn't have much time if he IS doing another project. But wouldn't we have heard about it by now?

I would love to have that look permanently in DVD form anyway... ;)No argument there. We've got S5 to look forward to in August though, so I'll be happy with that in the mean time. :)

[triplet]

I just figured that was his relaxed-for-the-summer look. They start back up in July sometime, so he doesn't have much time if he IS doing another project. But wouldn't we have heard about it by now?

He could have a small part in a large film and that wouldn't make any waves... *shrug* Maybe, but that's probably wishful thinking.

It is more likely at this point, not having heard anything, that he's just giving his razor the summer off... ;) :D

Which is okay too since he might need some time off.

No argument there. We've got S5 to look forward to in August though, so I'll be happy with that in the mean time. :)

Yep. Me too.

[AgentPat]

He could have a small part in a large film and that wouldn't make any waves... *shrug* Maybe, but that's probably wishful thinking.

It is more likely at this point, not having heard anything, that he's just giving his razor the summer off... ;) :D

Which is okay too since he might need some time off.Yeah, I'm with Carol on that. I think I'd rather him have the time off. He deserves it. I hope he can get as far away from press and annoying paparazzi too. He needs a break. I know I would.

[Milkman95]

Find a barber Tom, hilarious.......

[green]

He could have a small part in a large film and that wouldn't make any waves... *shrug* Maybe, but that's probably wishful thinking.




They should give him a small role in 300:eek:

And if you've seen any of the production diaries Im sure you can figure out why I say that.;)

[triplet]

Huh? :confused:

300?

[KalKai]

http://imdb.com/title/tt0416449/

[green]

Huh? :confused:

300?


Trip....

http://www.apple.com/trailers/wb/300/feature5/

Watch this.

We have a whole forum for the movie here.

http://www.superherohype.com/forums/forumdisplay.php?f=317

I know Id pay to see Welling in a red cape and leather loin cloth.:D
Even though Gerard Butler looks to be more than uh capable.

[triplet]

Trip....

http://www.apple.com/trailers/wb/300/feature5/

Watch this.

We have a whole forum for the movie here.

http://www.superherohype.com/forums/forumdisplay.php?f=317

I know Id pay to see Welling in a red cape and leather loin cloth.:D
Even though Gerard Butler looks to be more than uh capable.

I'd pay to see Welling read the yellow pages in a burlap sack, so you know I'd be totally up on seeing him wearing a loin cloth... :D ;)

I have no idea what this film is still but I'm thinking I like the eye candy and the featurette made the film look exciting... I'll probably see it.

:up:

Thanks, green.

http://imdb.com/title/tt0416449/


ETA: Oh, interesting...

LOL! I guess it takes a graphic novel to get fanboys interested in history!

:D Too funny...

I'll probably go see it now...

Thanks, Kal.

[green]

I'd pay to see Welling read the yellow pages in a burlap sack, so you know I'd be totally up on seeing him wearing a loin cloth... :D :up:

I have no idea what this film is still but I'm thinking I like the eye candy and the featurette made the film look exciting... I'll probably see it.

:up:

Thanks, green.

"Based on the epic graphic novel by Frank Miller, "300" is a ferocious retelling of the ancient Battle of Thermopylae in which King Leonidas (Gerard Butler) and 300 Spartans fought to the death against Xerxes and his massive Persian army. Facing insurmountable odds, their valor and sacrifice inspire all of Greece to unite against their Persian enemy, drawing a line in the sand for democracy. The film brings Miller's (Sin City) acclaimed graphic novel to life by combining live action with virtual backgrounds that capture his distinct vision of this ancient historic tale."


I think its gonna be rather good.:up:

You're welcome.:)

BTW have you ever come across the script Nick Cave wrote for Gladiator 2?
I can find a ton of stuff on it but no actual links to the script.

[triplet]

"Based on the epic graphic novel by Frank Miller, "300" is a ferocious retelling of the ancient Battle of Thermopylae in which King Leonidas (Gerard Butler) and 300 Spartans fought to the death against Xerxes and his massive Persian army. Facing insurmountable odds, their valor and sacrifice inspire all of Greece to unite against their Persian enemy, drawing a line in the sand for democracy. The film brings Miller's (Sin City) acclaimed graphic novel to life by combining live action with virtual backgrounds that capture his distinct vision of this ancient historic tale."


I think its gonna be rather good.:up:

Sounds like it and I loved Gladiator, of course I was in major lust with Russell Crowe at the time it came out so that may have had something to do with my ardor... ;) :D



BTW have you ever come across the script Nick Cave wrote for Gladiator 2?
I can find a ton of stuff on it but no actual links to the script.

No, I'd love to read it... he recently wrote a film down under that got good reviews but I haven't seen it (The Proposition starring Guy Pearce.)

I think he's twisted (yet so smart) as a song writer so I would love to see what he can deliver as a script writer....

His reasoning for putting the skimpily clad girls in his video "Bring it On" was because he thought he'd get more air time on MTV if he did.

It worked... :D

Too funny.

[Pickle-El]

Based on looks alone (from that CW pick) Tom should have taken Orlando's spot for Troy.....AND, he sorta resembles Eric Bana.

Though, Tom is probably much bigger than Eric...probably wouldn't have worked since Hector was the older brother.

[Pickle-El]

Actually, now that I think about it.....Bloom didn't have any facial hair. Guess it wouldn't have worked at all. :O

[avidreader]

Based on looks alone (from that CW pick) Tom should have taken Orlando's spot for Troy.....AND, he sorta resembles Eric Bana.

Though, Tom is probably much bigger than Eric...probably wouldn't have worked since Hector was the older brother.

Eric Bana is 6'3"

[green]

Sounds like it and I loved Gladiator, of course I was in major lust with Russell Crowe at the time it came out so that may have had something to do with my ardor... ;) :D

Oh I am well aware of your Crowe love.:up:

No, I'd love to read it... he recently wrote a film down under that got good reviews but I haven't seen it (The Proposition starring Guy Pearce.)

I think he's twisted (yet so smart) as a song writer so I would love to see what he can deliver as a script writer....

His reasoning for putting the skimpily clad girls in his video "Bring it On" was because he thought he'd get more air time on MTV if he did.

It worked... :D

Too funny.


LOL...
I love Nick Cave, Let Love In is one of my all time favorites.
The Proposition is getting excellent reviews.:up:

[Pickle-El]

Eric Bana is 6'3"


Dang....I thought he was like 5'11 or something. Maybe HE should have been Superman !!! :supes:


;)

[triplet]

Oh I am well aware of your Crowe love.:up:

:D

I think I probably would have loved Gladiator in any case, it was a fun movie, but it's hard to really know for sure.

He was so sexy in that film and totally made the drek-filled dialogue watchable... I can't imagine anyone else speaking such horrible lines and still somehow made it all work.

It was like magic. ;) :D

LOL...
I love Nick Cave, Let Love In is one of my all time favorites.
The Proposition is getting excellent reviews.:up:

I'm not sure I've hear Let in Love, but I did love Bring it On...

[avidreader]

Dang....I thought he was like 5'11 or something. Maybe HE should have been Superman !!! :supes:


;)

.... from green skin. Eh, I dont think so. ;)

[triplet]

Actually, now that I think about it.....Bloom didn't have any facial hair. Guess it wouldn't have worked at all. :O

Actually, at the time of this film beards were standard in Grecian society.

According to Wikipedia, shaving the beard wasn't poplularized until later...

(Grecian) Men grew beards until Alexander the Great created a vogue for shaving....

FYI

So, the furry face woulda worked for this film and Bloom shoulda been wearing one in Troy, which was set in 1250 BC...

[green]

:D

I think I probably would have loved Gladiator in any case, it was a fun movie, but it's hard to really know for sure.

Crowe made that movie for me personally.:up:

He was so sexy in that film and totally made the drek-filled dialogue watchable... I can't imagine anyone else speaking such horrible lines and still somehow made it all work.

It was like magic. ;) :D


Hmm, you know I can completely relate, I feel almost the same way about a particular tv show.;) :D
I still love it though.:up:


I'm not sure I've heard Let in Love, but I did love Bring it On...

Check it out, its considered by many to be a masterpiece.

[Pickle-El]

Actually, at the time of this film beards were standard in Grecian society.

According to Wikipedia, shaving the beard wasn't poplularized until later...

[/COLOR]

FYI

So, the furry face woulda worked for this film and Bloom shoulda been wearing one in Troy, which was set in 1250 BC...


Orlando was just too wimpy.....Tom could easily pull off that Grecian look IMO.

[triplet]

Crowe made that movie for me personally.

He did for me too...


Hmm, you know I can completely relate, I feel almost the same way about a particular tv show.
I still love it though.

"Almost," green?

:p

Check it out, its considered by many to be a masterpiece.

I'd love to...

You got a link? *cough*yousendit*cough*

:D ;)

Orlando was just too wimpy.....Tom could easily pull off that Grecian look IMO.

Oh, he definitely could.

Bloom is pretty but Tom's pretty and yet very masculine at the same time. (I'm not sure how he does it but he does.)

:up:

He could easily pull off the ancient and deadly warrior thing... I know he does angry tons better than Bloom even dreams of doing it.

I can't imagine feeling scared seeing Orlando Bloom running at me across a battle field but I know I would be petrified if Tom were.

:eek:

So big and musclely....

Which under different (and more candle lit) circumstances is very, very appealing and not at all scary... ;)

*ahem**cough*

[Serene]

Trip....

http://www.apple.com/trailers/wb/300/feature5/

Watch this.

We have a whole forum for the movie here.

http://www.superherohype.com/forums/forumdisplay.php?f=317

I know Id pay to see Welling in a red cape and leather loin cloth.:D
Even though Gerard Butler looks to be more than uh capable.

Wow.. that looks pretty interesting. Gerard Butler, huh? Yum.. I mean, uh.. he's a really good actor. :D

I'll definitely add that one to the list.

I can't imagine feeling scared seeing Orlando Bloom running at me across a battle field but I know I would be petrified if Tom were.

LOL... If Tom was running across a battlefield towards me, I don't think "petrified" would describe how I'd be feeling. "Ecstatic," would be a more appropriate adjective. ;)

[green]

"Almost," green?

Well there are a few other redeeming qualities but I think you know the main reason I tune in every Thursday.:D



I'd love to...

You got a link? *cough*yousendit*cough*

When I get home from work you'll get a pm.:up:




I can't imagine feeling scared seeing Orlando Bloom running at me across a battle field but I know I would be petrified if Tom were.

:eek:

So big and musclely....

Which under different (and more candle lit) circumstances is very, very appealing and not at all scary... ;)

*ahem**cough*


LMAO...:D

Can Bloom even grow a full beard:confused:

[triplet]

Well there are a few other redeeming qualities but I think you know the main reason I tune in every Thursday.:D

Well, the eye candy is extraordinary but there's more to it that, surely?

:D

When I get home from work you'll get a pm.

Thanks... :D :up:




LMAO...

Yeah... Tom can play really scary-angry. I can't imagine being scared of Orlando at all... He's just too... metro-sexual looking... ;)

Can Bloom even grow a full beard:confused:

LMAO! I don't think he can...

could be why he had to forgo the more accurate look with a beard.

:D

[triplet]

LOL... If Tom was running across a battlefield towards me, I don't think "petrified" would describe how I'd be feeling. "Ecstatic," would be a more appropriate adjective. ;)

Well, there's that too...

;) :D

[uga2002]

Dang....I thought he was like 5'11 or something. Maybe HE should have been Superman !!!

Nope! Bana's legs are too skinny. Great upper body in Troy, skin and bones for legs. Plus he's a bit bow-legged. You can't have a bow-legged Superman.

[\S/JcDc\S/]

http://www.patcostello.com/smileys/shocked.gif

Oh my ****'n... GAAAAHHHHHD!!!!!!!!














http://www.patcostello.com/smileys/ghost.gif

Get a room for yourself :eek:

[AgentPat]

http://www.patcostello.com/temp/vessel8.jpg



Avid -> http://www.patcostello.com/smileys/nervous.gif


Triplet -> http://www.patcostello.com/smileys/rolleyes.gif


Serene -> http://www.patcostello.com/smileys/refuse.gif


Hulk -> http://www.patcostello.com/smileys/guns.gif


Kal-El 8 -> http://www.patcostello.com/smileys/mad.gif


Michael Corleone -> http://www.patcostello.com/smileys/thumbsup.gif


Pat -> [big arse grin]



Did I get 'em right? LOL

[triplet]

http://www.patcostello.com/temp/vessel8.jpg


Triplet -> http://www.patcostello.com/smileys/rolleyes.gif




Did I get 'em right? LOL

I have no clue why I'm still up but is this (http://www.patcostello.com/smileys/rolleyes.gif) supposed to be an "oh, brother?"

If so, you are right. That probably that's I how feel when I think about it....

You know, not mentioning the "kiss" in my review (other than in the recap) got me the most comments in my review thread. People didn't understand how I *couldn't* have mentioned it. It was such an *ahem* important moment in the series...

:D

Too funny, but probably not surprising considering where I do my reviews...

;)

[The Caped Knight]

http://www.patcostello.com/temp/vessel8.jpg


Kal-El 8 -> http://www.patcostello.com/smileys/mad.gif




Since Tom isn't SUPERMAN yet . I official don't give a rat ass about that pic or smallville.

http://img437.imageshack.us/img437/1504/201jl1.gif
^^^For this scene alone is going top every smallville romance scenes that I've seen or will ever see on smallville. I can't wait for June 30th THE MAN OF STEEL RETURNS & is reunited with his true love Lois Lane.:supes:

[Serene]

Serene -> http://www.patcostello.com/smileys/refuse.gif

You were really close for me.

This is closer though. http://www.deephousepage.com/smilies/puke.gif

:D

[user123456789]

Where do you all find those interesting smileys.

[C. Lee]

Since Tom isn't SUPERMAN yet . I official don't give a rat ass about that pic or smallville.

http://img437.imageshack.us/img437/1504/201jl1.gif
^^^For this scene alone is going top every smallville romance scenes that I've seen or will ever see on smallville. I can't wait for June 30th THE MAN OF STEEL RETURNS & is reunited with his true love Lois Lane.:supes:
But I give a rodents' posterior about trolling....take 3 days off.

I have repeadedly told people to stop acting childish like this...now it's time to send them to their room without supper.

[KalKai]

He's just obsessed with Clark & Lois being together.

[C. Lee]

He's just obsessed with Clark & Lois being together.
If people are going to act like they are in the second grade...then I will treat them that way.

[Ultimate_Superman]

As I said before C. Lee your going to have this problem till the movie comes out because although the show is Smallville it is about Superman and SV clearly takes from the Donner movie which the project that shall not be named is a follow up too. So people are always going to talk it just depends on how out of hand it will get. Also come on C. Lee over 17,000 post and still living in the 50 x 50 era.

[C. Lee]

As I said before C. Lee your going to have this problem till the movie comes out because although the show is Smallville it is about Superman and SV clearly takes from the Donner movie which the project that shall not be named is a follow up too. So people are always going to talk it just depends on how out of hand it will get. Also come on C. Lee over 17,000 post and still living in the 50 x 50 era.
As I have said before......leave it out of here....it's not hard to do.

I didn't even make this avatar (Joesph Freefall made it and gave it to me).....I don't worry about things like that.

[Ultimate_Superman]

As I have said before......leave it out of here....it's not hard to do.

I didn't even make this avatar (Joesph Freefall made it and gave it to me).....I don't worry about things like that.I agree with you all I am saying is you got a job on your hands. Because then its like you got to ban the SV posters who bring it up as well even if they refer to it in other names to set an example. Just saying but its cool.

[KalKai]

lol it depends in WHAT WAY you bring it up. Kal-El 8 was being childish and annoying like usual.

You also gotta see who brings up SV or Welling in the other forum which happens A LOT OF TIMES, more than here.

[Ultimate_Superman]

lol it depends in WHAT WAY you bring it up. Kal-El 8 was being childish and annoying like usual.

You also gotta see who brings up SV or Welling in the other forum which happens A LOT OF TIMES, more than here.I agree with you in that was a childish way on how he did it though it is a nice clip. I just am saying it has to be fair and go both ways because I have seen other people bring it up as well. I just think the best way to deal with things is leave it alone altogether but as I said before it will be hard see it both are dealing with Superman and taking from the same movie.

[Brainiac 8]

http://www.patcostello.com/temp/vessel8.jpg



Avid -> http://www.patcostello.com/smileys/nervous.gif


Triplet -> http://www.patcostello.com/smileys/rolleyes.gif


Serene -> http://www.patcostello.com/smileys/refuse.gif


Hulk -> http://www.patcostello.com/smileys/guns.gif


Pat -> [big arse grin]



Did I get 'em right? LOL

You forgot me Pat.:(

Brainaic 8: Wishing it was me and not TW.;)

[avidreader]

http://www.patcostello.com/temp/vessel8.jpg



Avid -> http://www.patcostello.com/smileys/nervous.gif




Wow! That's a beautiful picture. Does my little smiley indicate that I'm sheepishly enjoying it. :) :up:

[AgentPat]

I have no clue why I'm still up but is this (http://www.patcostello.com/smileys/rolleyes.gif) supposed to be an "oh, brother?"Basically. LOL I was thinking more along the lines of, "here we go again..." ;)

You know, not mentioning the "kiss" in my review (other than in the recap) got me the most comments in my review thread. People didn't understand how I *couldn't* have mentioned it. It was such an *ahem* important moment in the series...It may or may not be important depending on where they go next season. There were so many parallels with Commencement, both in dialog and character interaction, the Chloe/Clark scene could swing either way. The writers were smart though and left themselves an out. I'm thinking a LOT will depend on what happens with the film. If for some reason they're prevented from moving Lois in the direction she *should* go, then I'd say expect the unexpected.

You were really close for me. This is closer though. http://www.deephousepage.com/smilies/puke.gifhttp://www.patcostello.com/smileys/ohwell.gif

Looks like I'm striking out big time LOL. I liked that shot because...

1. It was fun to make - from an artistic POV (I dig the colors - very Talon-esque)
2. Any chance to live vicariously with Clark is okay by me. Lana, Chloe, Alicia, Lex.... :p - bring it on babe. LOL
3. It was a memorable scene, and if some happiness comes out of it for Clark next season (short though it would likely be), I'm all for it.

Don't get me wrong; Clark "discovering" Lois can't come soon enough. But he's gotta get out of his mopey funk and realize there are indeed other fish in the sea. He keeps saying he can't imagine loving anybody else. Gah! [Pat slaps Clark upside the head] Dude! Wake up man. LOL

So, if Chloe can be the catalyst to Lois and Clark's glue, lets get that show on the road, and PRONTO!

Where do you all find those interesting smileys.I collect the ones that I like and save 'em for future use. In a world where intent isn't always clear based on words alone, smileys are invaluable.

Wishing it was me and not TWHeh! Pat -> wishing it were me and not AM. :D



Kal-El 8, hmm... okay. I get the hint. Was only trying to bring some levity to the forum, but I'll abstain from directing that kind of show humor your way.

Tony, it was a completely unnecessary comparison. Please, just listen to C. Lee and let it go. I had no idea Kal was so touchy about it, so I won't joke with him any more on the subject.

Hey Avid, you wondered why I wasn't around much? Well, there ya go babe. Is it July yet? *sigh*

[avidreader]

It may or may not be important depending on where they go next season. There were so many parallels with Commencement, both in dialog and character interaction, the Chloe/Clark scene could swing either way. The writers were smart though and left themselves an out. I'm thinking a LOT will depend on what happens with the film. If for some reason they're prevented from moving Lois in the direction she *should* go, then I'd say expect the unexpected.


Don't get me wrong; Clark "discovering" Lois can't come soon enough.

I'm thinking that we wont see any Lois and Clark, just the not so subtle hints that we keep getting.

I was watching Fade the other day and Lois's comment to Graham about Clark not being her boyfriend in this lifetime told me exactly what they are or arent going to be doing with their relationship.

It struck back to Margot Kidder's comment in Crusade when she was speaking about Dr. Swann and her having a relationship in another lifetime.


some happiness comes out of it for Clark next season (short though it would likely be), I'm all for it.

Yeah, Clark needs some happy. :) He had a tough Season 5.


Heh! Pat -> wishing it were me and not AM. :D

Me, me, me, me! :D


Hey Avid, you wondered why I wasn't around much? Well, there ya go babe. Is it July yet? *sigh*

Yeah, I get your meaning. :up:

Tony you keep saying that its inevitable that the movie is brought into discussion, but there appears to be only two or three posters who keep bringing it into a conversation in a big way.

Most of the time its just referred to as

"the film"

Kal8 you said you wanted to be my friend. You have to play nice if you want friends. :)

[Ultimate_Superman]

I'm thinking that we wont see any Lois and Clark, just the not so subtle hints that we keep getting.

I was watching Fade the other day and Lois's comment to Graham about Clark not being her boyfriend in this lifetime told me exactly what they are or arent going to be doing with their relationship.

It struck back to Margot Kidder's comment in Crusade when she was speaking about Dr. Swann and her having a relationship in another lifetime.



Yeah, Clark needs some happy. :) He had a tough Season 5.




Me, me, me, me! :D




Yeah, I get your meaning. :up:

Tony you keep saying that its inevitable that the movie is brought into discussion, but there appears to be only two or three posters who keep bringing it into a conversation in a big way.

Most of the time its just referred to as

"the film"

Kal8 you said you wanted to be my friend. You have to play nice if you want friends. :)but why bring it up all? Thats all I am saying if you guys bring it up your really just giving anybody an open door to talk about it . Then gyou get upset afterwards why not just leave it out of the SV thread altogether and the problem is solved.

[KalKai]

lol we don't bring it up, it always starts from the other side, i've seen it happening lots of times now.

[avidreader]

but why bring it up all? Thats all I am saying if you guys bring it up your really just giving anybody an open door to talk about it . Then gyou get upset afterwards why not just leave it out of the SV thread altogether and the problem is solved.

Well to answer your question. I think there was a discussion between Pat and Triplet regarding the Lois, Chloe & Clark relationship. Pat answered that depending on what happens with the film will show just how far they can go with Lois and Clark on Smallville.

Often then, someone who is very emotionally attached to the film will come along and elaborate turning it into a big discussion about the film.

Get my point.:rolleyes:

[Ultimate_Superman]

Well to answer your question. I think there was a discussion between Pat and Triplet regarding the Lois, Chloe & Clark relationship. Pat answered that depending on what happens with the film will show just how far they can go with Lois and Clark on Smallville.

Often then, someone who is very emotionally attached to the film will come along and elaborate turning it into a big discussion about the film.

Get my point.:rolleyes:I get what your saying now. When the movie is talked about it is mostly in saying depending on what happens in the movie is how far SV can go with things then people blow it up to something bigger then what it is meant to be got you.

[avidreader]

:up:

[Pixiedust]

http://www.patcostello.com/temp/vessel8.jpg






Things like that should come with a warning tag. ;)

*Tells lunch to stay where I put it*

Sorry, Pat, your pics usually make me want to drool in a good way, but that makes me have a bad reaction. And I've been so good to stay away from the bad places *Chloe=Lois discussions* *cough*

I know there is a possibility that they will go with a Chloe/Clark relationship next year and I just don't know how I'm going to feel about it. To me, Clark has never felt that way about Chloe. She's been a great friend to him all year and I know relationships can grow out of friendships like that but there are usually hints of interest along the way and I just have never seen that from Clark's side of the fence so if he all of the sudden decided Chloe was the girl for him that would just come too out of the blue for me.

Way back in Devoted he said he didn't feel that way about her, at least not at that point but I haven't seen that change. In fact, I think it was pretty obvious leading up to the finale that he still loved Lana, even though he accepted that being with her would never work out. So a sudden interest in Chloe (just because she grabbed him and kissed him again---seems to be her pattern) would be out of character for Clark.

I guess I don't trust Al and Miles to build up a relationship slowly between the two, showing that Clark and even Chloe want to take it slow. I imagine them throwing the two into an all out romance which I just don't think I could buy.

I'm all for Clark moving on from Lana and getting ready for the relationship he will one day have with Lois, but I just don't want Chloe to be the stepping stone he uses to do it.

But I do have to admit Tom looks really hot in that pic. Of course he always looks hot so that's nothing new. But there is just something about him with his eyes closed. Or open. Oh heck, I'm easy.

[triplet]

Basically. LOL I was thinking more along the lines of, "here we go again..." ;)

Well, that too but Serene's smiley (http://www.deephousepage.com/smilies/puke.gif) might be closer to the mark...

:D


It may or may not be important depending on where they go next season. There were so many parallels with Commencement, both in dialog and character interaction, the Chloe/Clark scene could swing either way. The writers were smart though and left themselves an out. I'm thinking a LOT will depend on what happens with the film. If for some reason they're prevented from moving Lois in the direction she *should* go, then I'd say expect the unexpected.

Well, I didn't see it as being as important as some people apparently did.

I agree with Pixie on one thing: I just don't see Clark going there right now. They haven't foreshadowed a major change in his attitude toward her. Not. At. All.

If they do go with Clark and Chloe getting it on and, as nauseating as him hooking up with Chloe is, if it will get him over his intimacy issues then it might work in a larger sense as far as his character arc is concerned. That said, I think they will have to tread lightly and build up to it if they do go that route....

A light can't just go off and he wake up one morning head over heels in love with her. That'd be stretching it, really...

[Ultimate_Superman]

Well I for one thinks he should not hook up with Chloe. I mean come on this swapping thing has got to stop. I mean its like the Young and the Restless everybody slept with or made out with one another some where down the line. Clark needs to go solo and the only person who he needs to hook up with is Lois.

[thebigtree95]

So the consensus here is that Chloe is not liked by most posters?
I'm still getting the hang of it here.

[triplet]

It's not that I don't like Chloe, I love her... she's great.

I just don't think she's good romantic interest material for Clark.

I mean, they have a very brother/sister type relationship to me. I'd be grossed out by it like seeing Shannon and Boone doing it on Lost.

That was major ewww even though they were step siblings...

I think Clark and Chloe doing would have a similar eww factor for me because of that.

[thebigtree95]

Ah.

[triplet]

Welcome, btw....

:D :up:

[Pixiedust]

I'm with Trip. It's not that I dislike Chloe. I actually like her a lot as Clark's best friend and she and Lois have a great relationship as cousins that is so fun to see.

My two biggest problems with Chloe are 1) her supposed fans (chloe=lois)=ugh and the fact that she has been used more as a plot device this season than a flesh and blood character with flaws that she has been before.

But I actually like Chloe. Just don't want her with Clark.

[Serene]

I'm with Trip. It's not that I dislike Chloe. I actually like her a lot as Clark's best friend and she and Lois have a great relationship as cousins that is so fun to see.

My two biggest problems with Chloe are 1) her supposed fans (chloe=lois)=ugh and the fact that she has been used more as a plot device this season than a flesh and blood character with flaws that she has been before.

But I actually like Chloe. Just don't want her with Clark.
Ditto. :)

[Brainiac 8]

So the consensus here is that Chloe is not liked by most posters?
I'm still getting the hang of it here.

Most are indifferent and just don't like how much attention they spend on her.

Me Personally Thebigtree, I love her character. She is one of the three characters I find most interesting.:up: :)

[triplet]

I'm with Trip. It's not that I dislike Chloe. I actually like her a lot as Clark's best friend and she and Lois have a great relationship as cousins that is so fun to see.

My two biggest problems with Chloe are 1) her supposed fans (chloe=lois)=ugh and the fact that she has been used more as a plot device this season than a flesh and blood character with flaws that she has been before.

But I actually like Chloe. Just don't want her with Clark.

Exactly! :up:

[avidreader]

It's not that I don't like Chloe, I love her... she's great.

I just don't think she's good romantic interest material for Clark.

I mean, they have a very brother/sister type relationship to me. I'd be grossed out by it like seeing Shannon and Boone doing it on Lost.

That was major ewww even though they were step siblings...

I think Clark and Chloe doing would have a similar eww factor for me because of that.

I agree with you here, although I dont think it would drive me to spew if they did hook up. ;)

They have such a great platonic relationship why spoil it with a romance.

Even though Clark has never shown any romantic feelings to Chloe and has stated the opposite, they could have it that once he finally gets over Lana he does actually wake up and see that the "right girl" has been in front of him all long.

I dont see that happening though and just rewatching some of the episodes since Clark and Lana broke up, I cant say I'm too thrilled with the way that Chloe has been telling Clark to get over Lana.

For instance, telling Clark that the choices Lana makes are her business despite the fact that Chloe knows very well what Lex is capable of.

Chloe knows Clark still cares about Lana as he does about alot of people, so why shouldnt he show concern for Lana's well being, when the reason he broke up with her was because he wanted her to be happy.

Chloe's attitude and approach is showing signs of her swooping in and trying to win Clark over. I'm not sure I like that.

[Ultimate_Superman]

The back cover to Look up in the sky is out and no Welling either now this may be old news but I am kind of upset about this one.

[Serene]

I should clarify since I was running out before.. (besides, one-word "ditto" posts usually annoy me. ;)).

My puking smiley had nothing to do with Pat's artwork. As usual, I loooove Pat's pictures - but the subject matter in this case, is just really distasteful to me. To be blunt - I hate the whole idea of "Chlark." What's bad, is that I hate it so much that if the show actually does go there, I'm going to have to fast-forward through it and miss bits of Clark. Now that's really bad (and upsetting :() but yeah.. that's how strongly I feel about it.

Granted, Lana's my girl, and the only one I want to see him with.. but I loved his scenes with Alicia. The big difference there is that I thought he had some really good (and hot) chemistry with Alicia, but with Chloe, it's like oil and water and nails scraping a chalkboard.. both at once. *shivers*

I'm still not all there for the Clois that I do think is going to happen. I am curious to see how it plays though. I can see them throwing in some Clois kisses similar to the way they threw in a few of the Chloe ones.. with Clark and Lois having to "pretend" and kiss each other while trying to solve something. Meh.. the Lois-foreshadowing works fine IMO, but they need to refrain from the sledgehammer to the face WINK-WINK moments. I think the Clois should be a more natural progression for all of them..

Honestly, and I don't mean this to sound like Chloe-hatred, because I don't hate her character at all.. but now that they have Lois, and if they really are going to utilize her more and more - I find Chloe more expendable and obtrusive than ever. Lana should be his go-to hometown close friend, and Lois is the investigative partner/future girlfriend.

And can I just say here that I KNEW Chloe still had feelings for Clark that she's never gotten over - but I guess it's hard to blame the girl for that.
In Reckoning, when Clark told Chloe that he proposed to Lana.. first she just about **** herself - then she wants to know how SHE reacted :rolleyes:. That scene with her was much more revealing than I think most people picked up on.

"Losing track" of Lana at the political rally (you know, after promising to not take her eyes off of her) was probably intentional... ;) With roomies like Chloe, Lana better learn to sleep with one eye open.

[avidreader]

And can I just say here that I KNEW Chloe still had feelings for Clark that she's never gotten over - but I guess it's hard to blame the girl for that.
In Reckoning, when Clark told Chloe that he proposed to Lana.. first she just about **** herself - then she wants to know how SHE reacted :rolleyes:. That scene with her was much more revealing than I think most people picked up on.

"Losing track" of Lana at the political rally (you know, after promising to not take her eyes off of her) was probably intentional... ;) With roomies like Chloe, Lana better learn to sleep with one eye open.

Edit.

Moved comment to Relationships Thread.

[Serene]

Although I dont think Chloe deliberately lost Lana at the Victory Party, she just wasnt that interested in keeping as close an eye on her as Clark had asked her to do.

I was just kidding (and snarking) about that.. (see my little winky?) :)

[AgentPat]

My puking smiley had nothing to do with Pat's artwork...Thanks, Rene. It seemed as if everybody got so hung up on what was IN the picture, nobody gave a second thought to how much time and effort that went into MAKING it, which kinda bummed me out. :(

I have no overriding 'ship preference for Clark. I know he ends up with Lois eventually, but until the writers are allowed to venture down that path, I'm TOTALLY open to whomever they want him to take a detour with. If Chloe is that person, so be it.

There have been instances throughout the show where Clark expressed more than just a friendship for Chloe. In Crush, he told Lana that he felt him and Chloe could be more than friends and admitted to being a little jealous when he saw Chloe with Justin. At the end of the ep, Clark offered to spend time with her at the journalism convention in Metropolis. She accepted, and they held hands, smiling at each other. In Obscura, Clark told Martha he had feelings for Chloe and asked Chloe to go to the Spring Formal with him as his date. She accepted, and he apologized for not asking sooner. In Tempest, Chloe had a panic attack that Clark would just leave her alone at the Spring Formal. He kissed her and assured her that he wasn't going to the dance with her by default, but because he wanted to. When Chloe picked him up to go to the Formal, they exchanged corsage and boutonnière as well as affectionate stares at each other. They slow danced at the Formal and embraced, looking into each other's eyes. If it wasn't for the tornado warning announcement, they would have kissed.

That's just the first season. To say he never was attracted to Chloe or had feelings for her is inaccurate. Obviously, he has. Now he may have changed his tune in episodes like Devoted, but Lana has flip flopped on the Clark topic MANY times as well, so they're all guilty of changing their romantic preferences - or at least the writers are. ;)

Honestly, I don't understand the disgust some folks have with Clark dating Chloe. Right now, of all the characters on the show, Clark has the most in common with Chloe. Other than friendship with others and reporter confidentiality, they keep no secrets between each other. They are an open book and trust each other implicitly. Chloe loves Clark, knows he's an alien and would die for him. That's not disgusting, that's beautiful. Who else besides Martha would do that at this point in the show? Lex's vision in Lexmas was so on point, it was scary.

Anyway, if the writers are going to do the relationship shuffle, I think it would be more touching and meaningful to keep the relationships centric to the main cast. Bringing in new characters for that purpose only serves to water down the show as a whole. They shook things up by moving Lana over to Lex. There's only two other women left for Clark. Pick one. I really don't want to see him pine for Lana anymore. Being concerned for her safety and welfare is one thing - Clark cares about EVERYBODY - but it's time to replace the teen angst with some adult drama. Just the way I see it.

[Serene]

I really don't want to see him pine for Lana anymore. Being concerned for her safety and welfare is one thing - Clark cares about EVERYBODY - but it's time to replace the teen angst with some adult drama. Just the way I see it.

I agree completely about replacing the teen angst, but I can't agree about Chloe. I think the adult drama should be with Clark and Lana.. but I'm just an old school SV fan and they are *the* SV couple to me.

There's no point in arguing it though.. Unfortunately, the writers don't seem to be calling either one of us for advice. ;) (Idiots!)

But hey.. you've got a better chance of Chlark happening next season than I do of having them "fix" Clark and Lana. Ah, well... I'll deal.

Back to the pretty.. something we can ALL agree on. :D
I know some of these have already been posted, but since I threw these together I thought I'd post them anyway.
http://img210.imageshack.us/img210/2489/twx6copy4zt.jpg

[user123456789]

I've got to find out how he gets his teeth so white.

[The Kid]

Is time in the phantom zone moving faster than time on earth? I'd like to know because I think it'd be cool and awesome if he came out of the phantom zone years older with a lot of facial hair. I'm thinking moses type of facial hair.

Then that'll help explain the age progression. And he could be more mature too.

[avidreader]

Thanks, Rene. It seemed as if everybody got so hung up on what was IN the picture, nobody gave a second thought to how much time and effort that went into MAKING it, which kinda bummed me out. :(

I did. :(

Wow! That's a beautiful picture.



I have no overriding 'ship preference for Clark. I know he ends up with Lois eventually, but until the writers are allowed to venture down that path, I'm TOTALLY open to whomever they want him to take a detour with. If Chloe is that person, so be it.

There have been instances throughout the show where Clark expressed more than just a friendship for Chloe. In Crush, he told Lana that he felt him and Chloe could be more than friends and admitted to being a little jealous when he saw Chloe with Justin. At the end of the ep, Clark offered to spend time with her at the journalism convention in Metropolis. She accepted, and they held hands, smiling at each other. In Obscura, Clark told Martha he had feelings for Chloe and asked Chloe to go to the Spring Formal with him as his date. She accepted, and he apologized for not asking sooner. In Tempest, Chloe had a panic attack that Clark would just leave her alone at the Spring Formal. He kissed her and assured her that he wasn't going to the dance with her by default, but because he wanted to. When Chloe picked him up to go to the Formal, they exchanged corsage and boutonnière as well as affectionate stares at each other. They slow danced at the Formal and embraced, looking into each other's eyes. If it wasn't for the tornado warning announcement, they would have kissed.


I set up a thread to discuss all this, did you miss the memo. ;)

You should repost this there, as there's some valid points for a good discussion.



Awesome Montage Serene. :up:

Weyseed, I was thinking that too. If he came back to earth a little bit hairy and did his thing for saving the day. He could then go back to clean cut Clark Kent from the Farm, people wont recognise him.

[SatEL]

Welling really has gotten bigger during the years i think his biggest was season4 am i right ladies?

[triplet]

Thanks, Rene. It seemed as if everybody got so hung up on what was IN the picture, nobody gave a second thought to how much time and effort that went into MAKING it, which kinda bummed me out. :(



Oh, sorry you got bummed. It was a true beaut of an image.

:up:

Good job, Pat.

[AgentPat]

I set up a thread to discuss all this, did you miss the memo. ;)Oh, yeah, I saw it. I just wanted to wrap up my thoughts here though because it sort of started with that artsy promo shot.

You should repost this there, as there's some valid points for a good discussion.Mmmm... I dunno. I think it could turn into a "shipper" debate, and it's really not like that to me at all. I just want to see less angst and mistrust between antagonists. They're all adults now, so I'm looking forward to seeing more mature relationships between characters. That's not to say there shouldn't be any drama though; I think Clark should be MORE bullheaded than he already is LOL. He should be one step short of major feather ruffling into the 6th season. Ironically, that's good, because it's IN character for him to act that way.

Chloe fans are worried because they don't want to see her get burned again, but I don't see that happening. By skewing the characterization more towards the version of Superman that fans are familiar with, we'll start to see how Clark would be too much for even Chloe to handle. She won't be able to put up with him for very long on an intimate level. Lois, on the other hand... ;)

And that's when fans should begin to see how the conundrum of being himself at the expense of emotional intimacy will weigh heavier on Clark than it ever has before. Hopefully, we'll get to see all that play out in the seventh and final season. That's when I'd like to see the facade version of CK show up in Metropolis and rumors of a mysterious super dude (LOL) start to circulate around the city.

Welling really has gotten bigger during the years i think his biggest was season4 am i right ladies?Tough to say w/o screen caps. Anybody got any pictures?

http://www.patcostello.com/smileys/halo2.gif

[avidreader]

Oh, yeah, I saw it. I just wanted to wrap up my thoughts here though because it sort of started with that artsy promo shot.


That's okay you're allowed to. I wasnt trying to tell you what to do.

I just wanted to start a discussion that was about Smallville. I'm tired of seeing all the threads that evolve around comic books and Big Budge Movies.


Mmmm... I dunno. I think it could turn into a "shipper" debate,

I dont think that there are enough people in this forum who are that passionate about their ships. I know Serene loves Clana and I do too, although not as much as Serene, but Serene's always great for an intelligent conversation.

and it's really not like that to me at all. I just want to see less angst and mistrust between antagonists. They're all adults now, so I'm looking forward to seeing more mature relationships between characters. That's not to say there shouldn't be any drama though; I think Clark should be MORE bullheaded than he already is LOL. He should be one step short of major feather ruffling into the 6th season. Ironically, that's good, because it's IN character for him to act that way.

What did DeKnight say, there'll still be angst it will just be adult angst. ;)
I'm always up for a bullheaded Clark. :up:

And that's when fans should begin to see how the conundrum of being himself at the expense of emotional intimacy will weigh heavier on Clark than it ever has before. Hopefully, we'll get to see all that play out in the seventh and final season. That's when I'd like to see the facade version of CK show up in Metropolis and rumors of a mysterious super dude (LOL) start to circulate around the city.

See this is the sort of discussion that you can take to the other thread. Intelligent, dealing with repercussions etc. etc. :)

Tough to say w/o screen caps. Anybody got any pictures?

http://www.patcostello.com/smileys/halo2.gif

LOL! That coming from the lady with more screen caps than anyone I know, except James maybe. :D

[AgentPat]

That's okay you're allowed to. I wasnt trying to tell you what to do.LOL! Don't sweat it. ;)

I just wanted to start a discussion that was about Smallville. I'm tired of seeing all the threads that evolve around comic books and Big Budge Movies.Aye freakin' MEN sistah!!!

LOL! That coming from the lady with more screen caps than anyone I know, except James maybe. :DLOLOL!!! I was gonna say something like, well THERE's a topic we haven't discussed [/sarcasm], but if SatEL hasn't been here, he/she wouldn't get the "joke."

Fourth season "size matters" caps? Hmmm.... Yeah, I think I may have one or two, yes yes. :)

[avidreader]

Aye freakin' MEN sistah!!!

Just noticed my typo for the word "Budge" it was supposed to say Budget, but I think budge could work too. :D

LOLOL!!! I was gonna say something like, well THERE's a topic we haven't discussed [/sarcasm], but if SatEL hasn't been here, he/she wouldn't get the "joke."

Fourth season "size matters" caps? Hmmm.... Yeah, I think I may have one or two, yes yes. :)

No time like the present to get someone familiar with posters. Post away. ;) :D

[Whiteflag]

Post away, AgentPat! :)

[SatEL]

Just been over some of the threads and it seems your a fitness expert Agentpat therefore i am guessing you might have an understanding of my next question, Do you think welling is a ecto or mesmo?

[AgentPat]

Just been over some of the threads and it seems your a fitness expert Agentpat therefore i am guessing you might have an understanding of my next question, Do you think welling is a ecto or mesmo?Well, I'm not an "expert," but I'd say that right now, Tom is *definitely* meso.

Before SV, he looked fairly ectomorphic, and you can see that in his early modeling photos...

http://www.patcostello.com/temp/model3.jpg

Of course, he was still quite young and probably just focused on staying in shape. He wasn't trying to be Superman or anything like that LOL.

After being cast in SV however, I'm sure he put a little more effort into building a more defined physique. By the third season, he had nice vascularity in his hands and arms, and was quite cut...

http://www.patcostello.com/temp/phoenix.jpg

Beginning in the summer of 2004 however, I think he changed his workout slightly. It became very apparent in the fall when episodes like Transference and Spell aired...

http://www.patcostello.com/temp/transference11.jpg

http://www.patcostello.com/temp/spell.jpg

Hmm. Bulking up a little, are we Tom? :P

By the fifth season, he's full blown mesomorphic...

http://www.patcostello.com/temp/aqua11.jpg

Time was, he'd only look big in profile because of the thickness of his chest. Well, not anymore...

http://www.patcostello.com/temp/hypnotic1.jpg

As you might imagine, we've speculated quite a bit about intent. Is it purposeful or just an age thing? Is it lack of time due to his busy schedule? Nobody really knows. I have other theories though, because he clearly is still lifting. He just doesn't look like he's doing much aerobic exercise any more.

If *I* were giving out free advice (LOL) to somebody cast as a young Clark Kent-soon-to-be-Superman, I'd expect the same kind of results. David Prowse worked C. Reeve to the point of puking, but he also told him to eat. Eat. EAT! Welling has had five years (going on six) to sculpt a physique of lean, thick muscles with great stability. He's looking real good now, in my ever-so-biased opinion. :D

[Serene]

Oooh.. a body habitus question!

Love the illustrations, Pat. :up:

I'd have to say that Tom was never really an ectomorph, even in his early days though. Although he was thinner, with less body mass, he was still a relatively "big" guy compared to your typical ectomorph.

Of course, he's just a brickhouse of a mesomorph now. :D

[SatEL]

Well, I'm not an "expert," but I'd say that right now, Tom is *definitely* meso.

Before SV, he looked fairly ectomorphic, and you can see that in his early modeling photos...

http://www.patcostello.com/temp/model3.jpg

Of course, he was still quite young and probably just focused on staying in shape. He wasn't trying to be Superman or anything like that LOL.

After being cast in SV however, I'm sure he put a little more effort into building a more defined physique. By the third season, he had nice vascularity in his hands and arms, and was quite cut...

http://www.patcostello.com/temp/phoenix.jpg

Beginning in the summer of 2004 however, I think he changed his workout slightly. It became very apparent in the fall when episodes like Transference and Spell aired...

http://www.patcostello.com/temp/transference11.jpg

http://www.patcostello.com/temp/spell.jpg

Hmm. Bulking up a little, are we Tom? :P

By the fifth season, he's full blown mesomorphic...

http://www.patcostello.com/temp/aqua11.jpg

Time was, he'd only look big in profile because of the thickness of his chest. Well, not anymore...

http://www.patcostello.com/temp/hypnotic1.jpg

As you might imagine, we've speculated quite a bit about intent. Is it purposeful or just an age thing? Is it lack of time due to his busy schedule? Nobody really knows. I have other theories though, because he clearly is still lifting. He just doesn't look like he's doing much aerobic exercise any more.

If *I* were giving out free advice (LOL) to somebody cast as a young Clark Kent-soon-to-be-Superman, I'd expect the same kind of results. David Prowse worked C. Reeve to the point of puking, but he also told him to eat. Eat. EAT! Welling has had five years (going on six) to sculpt a physique of lean, thick muscles with great stability. He's looking real good now, in my ever-so-biased opinion. :D

Thanks agent pat its been something i have been wondering about for a while, i know this question is out of content but where would you class Brad Pitt i would say ecto but opinions might vary.

[Whiteflag]

Thanks for the lesson, AgentPat!

I'd gladly expend every day of every week studying this interesting subject.

More lesson would be appreciated. You know, I need to make sure I pass my exam. :)

[jas01724]

Well, I'm not an "expert," but I'd say that right now, Tom is *definitely* meso.
You don't really become one or the other, it's the genetics you're born with. I think he's a pretty clear combo ecto-mesomorph, which is a mesomorph with a number of ectomorphic traits.

[Darthphere]

Tom shook my hand and ive had 5 surgeries on my wrist.:(

[avidreader]

Okay, dummy's got her hand up here for a question.

Excuse me Miss, but what's the difference between an ectomorph and a mesomorph?

[green]

Okay, dummy's got her hand up here for a question.

Excuse me Miss, but what's the difference between an ectomorph and a mesomorph?

http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v662/markofort/becker3d.jpg

Endomorph

An Endomorph's biggest concern should be the losing of fat and adopting a lifestyle that keeps it off. Strength training should be done to get a better muscle to fat ratio and therefore improve metabolism. Use moderate weights at a fast training pace (very little rest between sets and exercises). You should lower your calorie intake (but not try to starve yourself) and should eat frequent but small meals. Sugars, sweets and junk food should be eliminated from your diet. Engage daily in some activity like brisk walking, biking, etc., and try to increase the amount of time you spend each week.

Mesomorph

A Mesomorph has a naturally fit body but to maintain it or improve it they should exercise and diet corretly for their type. Strength training can be done more often and for longer sessions then would be good for an Ectomorph, but you must still be carefull not to overdo it. You should train with moderate to heavy weighs and at a moderate pace, not resting too long between sets. You will find you gain muscle quite easy (some women and even men might not want to get too bulky, but this won't happen suddenly. When you are happy with your muscle size simply train to maintain it). Stick to a good healthy diet to keep you lean and muscular, and watch for any slow creeping fat gains. Engage in and enjoy aerobic activities, sports, etc. but do not overdo.

Ectomorph

Ectomorphs should concentrate on gaining weight in the form of good lean muscle tissue (some women that are too thin may also want to put on a little fat to look more feminine). Weight training should be done but not too often or for too long each session. Weight should be fairly heavy and workout pace slower (longer rest periods between sets). Diet should be high in calories (good quality food not junk) and you should eat more then you're used to and often. Aerobic and other activities (sports, dancing, etc.) should be kept to a minimum, at least until you are happy with your weight and looks.

[avidreader]

^^^^ Cool! Thanks green.:up: :)

[AgentPat]

You don't really become one or the other, it's the genetics you're born with. I think he's a pretty clear combo ecto-mesomorph, which is a mesomorph with a number of ectomorphic traits.Yes, I agree. I should note that I was talking about his general appearance, which *can* change drastically. I have no clue what his metabolism is like or how his body responds to various types of training regimens, which is really the whole point of assessing body type to begin with: a person should tailor their training according to his/her genetics. :)

[green]

^^^^ Cool! Thanks green.:up: :)

No problem...sorry my visual aid wasnt as fantastic as Pats.:D

[jas01724]

I should note that I was talking about his general appearance, which *can* change drastically.
Yeah, it can. :)

This is just another of my little pet peeves, of which there are many. If you're just talking about a person's general size, you're not really talking ecto/meso/endo, since anyone can pretty much get themselves any kind of body with the right training and enough effort. Ecto/meso/endo are descriptive of the underlying body type, and that'll stick around no matter what you pile on top of it.

Dammit, now I'm thinking of protein shakes again. :p

[AgentPat]

This is just another of my little pet peeves, of which there are many. If you're just talking about a person's general sizeBut I wasn't talking just size. :( Morphic categories explain why a person looks like they do based on their genetics, but you can use them to describe appearance for appearance sake. Body fat percentage, muscle definition, and vascularity vary from person to person. If I said a person was more ectomorphic than endomorphic, you wouldn't picture a burly lumberjack type guy, but that same guy *could* potentially look ectomorphic with the proper training.

I had the same pet peeve when all the comments were made after those Aqua pics were released. I joke about the "size matters" thing all the time, but there's more to it than just height and girth.

[MJZ]

Generally I don't put too much stock into those soma-types, I think bone structure is the more overriding issue but they do have some merit. TW might be more accurately classified as "ecto-mesomorphic" in an untrained state, i.e. naturally thin but with a propensity to get muscular. A pure ecto would be like a marathon runner-type, whereas the pure endo is the stereotypical fat guy. Most people share traits of all three.

That's not to say there aren't exceptions to the rule. Here's Arnold in his teens, the freak:

http://www.schwarzenegger.it/gallery/musclegallery5/m670.jpg

[AgentPat]

...Here's Arnold in his teens, the freakLMAO!!! Indeed.

You're too funny, MJZ. :D :up:

[Scooter]

Yeah, Tom Welling isn't really jump-right-out-at-you or obviously attractive, huh? Gotta' look for it...

[jas01724]

But I wasn't talking just size. :(
I know, but it was the part about him looking "fairly ectomorphic" before, and being "full blown mesomorphic" now. To me, with or without the bulk, with or without the vascularity, body fat, etc., he's never looked that much different. Even if he lost 75 pounds, you'd still see the bone structure and know that he's no fragile little thing. And if he ever put on weight, like Marlon Brando (I hope he never does, but these things can happen), you'd still see the shape of his shoulders and the set of his jaw, and know that genetically he's no endomorph. Superficially he would resemble one, but that's all.

It's just a pet peeve, kinda like when people interchange hi-resolution and hi-quality when talking about images. They really mean two entirely different things, but the words have fallen into common usage as a term that simply means "this picture is big". Just because you can use the words to mean two things, it doesn't mean you always should. I make no apologies for being a stickler - and you'd wonder where the real James has gone if I ever stop being one. ;)

As for Arnold, despite his bulk, his frame doesn't look so big. I'd say he's possibly ecto-mesomorphic, too.

[MJZ]

As for Arnold, despite his bulk, his frame doesn't look so big. I'd say he's possibly ecto-mesomorphic, too.

Yeah that's what he claims to be. I know there's some dispute about his real height but suffice it to say he's pretty tall for a bodybuilder.

I think you're likely to find the pure mesos in the NFL and such.

[Pickle-El]

These guys look like they know how to party!

http://previews4.wireimage.com/images/preview/8699055Buddy82528200630136AM.jpg

[avidreader]

These guys look like they know how to party!

http://previews4.wireimage.com/images/preview/8699055Buddy82528200630136AM.jpg

Which guys? I only see a little red x. :(

[Pickle-El]

I want to be a female idol like THESE guys!

http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v519/DaBadGuy82/8699055Buddy82528200620605PM.jpg

[user123456789]

Thanks agent pat its been something i have been wondering about for a while, i know this question is out of content but where would you class Brad Pitt i would say ecto but opinions might vary.
Tom's an ecto-meso, brad's an ecto
You don't really become one or the other, it's the genetics you're born with. I think he's a pretty clear combo ecto-mesomorph, which is a mesomorph with a number of ectomorphic traits.
lol agreed. ecto, meso, and endo are BONE STRUCTURES. tom can't "change" his bone structure in his 20s, but he's definately ecto-meso. wide face, long arms, broad shoulders, etc.

PS: ARNOLD IS THE BEST.

[AgentPat]

ecto, meso, and endo are BONE STRUCTURES.No, it's not *just* bone structure, it's musculature and fat percentages as well.

tom can't "change" his bone structure in his 20s, but he's definitely ecto-meso. wide face, long arms, broad shoulders, etc.You can't change your bone structure, but you *can* change your somatotype. There's a bunch of different examples in Arnold's book (Enc. of Modern Bodybuilding). The first example is of Steve Davis, who was very endomorphic when he started bodybuilding and who looked "very mesomorphic" a few years later.

PS: ARNOLD IS THE BEST.Agreed!

Of course, no one is totally one type but rather a combination of all three types...

Any body type can be developed by proper training and nutrition, but individuals with different body types will find it necessary to initially approach their training with different objectives, even though they may share the same long-term goals...

There have been champions with every kind of body type. Steve Davis once weighed in at around 270 pounds, which means he tends heavily toward the endomorphic. Losing fat and replacing it with quality muscle was necessary before he could hope to win a bodybuilding title. Ken Passariello, lightweight Mr. Universe, came down from 250 pounds to win the title at 156 pounds, which puts him in the same category. Frank Zane, on the other hand, is much more ectomorphic. Muscle-mass gains have always taken Frank a long time to achieve, but this did not keep him from becoming Mr. Olympia three times. I am mesomorphic enough to be able to build muscle mass relatively easily, and at one point bulked up to 240 pounds, bu my natural physique tended to be lean, which makes me more an ecto-mesomorph than an endo-mesomorph...

Understanding your own body type can save you a lot of time and frustration. An ectomorph who trains like an endomorph will overtrain and not grow. The endomorph who thinks he is more mesomorphic will grow, but will always have trouble keeping his body fat down. Certain principles of training are the same for everybody. But how you organize your training and how you integrate it with diet and nutrition can be profoundly different depending on what kind of body type nature has given you.As I've said, I'm no expert on this stuff, but Arnold makes it easier to grasp with copious photos. I'd recommend his book to anybody.

[Whiteflag]

I'm learning a lot here! Thanks!

Whatever type Tom is, he certainly looks GOOD! :)

[avidreader]

I'm learning a lot here! Thanks!

Whatever type Tom is, he certainly looks GOOD! :)

:up: Yeah, I'll stay in your corner Whiteflag. Tom looks great and that's all that matters to me. :)

[AgentPat]

http://www.patcostello.com/temp/oracle3.jpg

http://www.patcostello.com/smileys/cloud9.gif

[triplet]

I'm learning a lot here! Thanks!

Whatever type Tom is, he certainly looks GOOD! :)

This is all so far over my head that I'm not sure I'm even feeling any breeze when it blows by me...

:D ;)

I don't care what type he is, he is just gorgeous. Every single living inch of him.

http://www.patcostello.com/smileys/cloud9.gif


http://www.patcostello.com/temp/oracle3.jpg

See. There's the proof right there.

Gorgeous... http://www.patcostello.com/smileys/cloud9.gif

*sigh*

[Serene]

^Lovely pic, Pat. :)

This is an old KK interview, but one that I never saw before. I'm posting it here because I just love to read nice things that people say about Tom off-screen.

So, I guess the amazing eyes aren't just a camera trick... ;)

* On working with Smallville star Tom Welling: "The thing about Tom is that he's a great guy, and he's obviously beautiful and has the most stunning eyes. But he's such a good person, and he's funny and nice to be around, and he's really grounded and true to himself, and that makes it so wonderful to be around him at work."

http://www.comicscontinuum.com/stories/0205/08/kreuk.htm

[Scooter]

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[Zing79]

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[RakuMon]

I want to be a female idol like THESE guys!

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Check out Lil Chris' belt buckle!! :up:

But doesn't he realize Tom's not Superman?!

[AgentPat]

LMAO!!

Okay Scooter, only YOU can get away with that. :p

Check out Lil Chris' belt buckle!! :up:

But doesn't he realize Tom's not Superman?!Hehehehe. There's another picture of just the two of them and "Chris" is doing the same thing with his belt buckle. It's really cute. They must be happy to have both shows on the same network now. No more competing time slots among friends.

[triplet]

I'm confused about the picture of the deer...

:confused:

Is it just me and there is there some kinda reference that's obvious to everyone else that I'm not getting?

[AgentPat]

Scoots is implying the screen cap I posted of Clark reminds him of the look of a deer-caught-in-the-headlights.

Like I said, Scooter is one of the few people we'll let get away with that. :p

http://www.patcostello.com/temp/unsafe7.jpg

[triplet]

Scoots is implying the screen cap I posted of Clark reminds him of the look of a deer-caught-in-the-headlights.

Like I said, Scooter is one of the few people we'll let get away with that. :p

http://www.patcostello.com/temp/unsafe7.jpg

Oh, gotcha... LOL! :D

You have to understand I'm working severely sleep deprived here... The hubby took us a couple of hours south on the coast to see the X-Man film. The dolt.

I didn't think of it but after the trek south we ended up getting back at like 10pm and I have to get up at 2:30am so I'm really fried...

Long story too long: I'm being a total nitwit so never mind me and I'm even rambing which is worse....

I'll be better after I get some sleep.

:yawn:

[Jedi Master]

Scoots is implying the screen cap I posted of Clark reminds him of the look of a deer-caught-in-the-headlights.
Q
Like I said, Scooter is one of the few people we'll let get away with that. :p

http://www.patcostello.com/temp/unsafe7.jpg


hmm maybe tom welling looks good for gambit...looks good in red eyes

[green]

Oh, gotcha... LOL! :D

You have to understand I'm working severely sleep deprived here... The hubby took us a couple of hours south on the coast to see the X-Man film. The dolt.

I didn't think of it but after the trek south we ended up getting back at like 10pm and I have to get up at 2:30am so I'm really fried...

Long story too long: I'm being a total nitwit so never mind me and I'm even rambing which is worse....

I'll be better after I get some sleep.

:yawn:

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http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v662/markofort/starbucks.jpg
:D

[triplet]

:(
http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v662/markofort/starbucks.jpg
:D

Thanks, green!

:D

I'll have to hold off on the caffiene until the ayem, however... Don't want to be wired in the next few hours when I should be sleeping.

;)

Too bad the heathens in this city have the only starbucks way out of my way when I'm heading into work and neither of them are open 24/7...

:eek:

I lived in a sleepy college town in Colorado before moving here and we had a Starbucks that was open 24/7 that was only a few blocks from my house.

Yet I thought that town was backward because it didn't have a decent stadium seating theatre. Silly me...

It surprised the hell out of me when I discovered that it was far more forward thinking than the hick town in Florida I'm now living in....

*shrug*

Who knew?

[green]

Thanks, green!

:D

I'll have to hold off on the caffiene until the ayem, however... Don't want to be wired in the next few hours when I should be sleeping.

;)

Too bad the heathens in this city have the only starbucks way out of my way when I'm heading into work and neither of them are open 24/7...

:eek:

I lived in a sleepy college town in Colorado before moving here and we had a Starbucks that was open 24/7 that was only a few blocks from my house.

Yet I thought that town was backward because it didn't have a decent stadium seating theatre. Silly me...

It surprised the hell out of me when I discovered that it was far more forward thinking than the hick town in Florida I'm now living in....

*shrug*

Who knew?

We've got a Starbucks on literally every corner here. Its kinda over kill. Three blocks away there is seriously a Starbucks next door to a Peet's that's across the street from a Martha Bro's...its a friggin smargasboard(sp?).:D

What did you think of X3?
Ohh maybe you should answer in the Talon so we arent taking up Toms space.:cool:

[triplet]

We've got a Starbucks on literally every corner here. Its kinda over kill. Three blocks away there is seriously a Starbucks next door to a Peet's that's across the street from a Martha Bro's...its a friggin smargasboard(sp?).:D

What did you think of X3?
Ohh maybe you should answer in the Talon so we arent taking up Toms space.:cool:

I'll reply in the Talon thread... poor Tommy ain't getting any love right now in this thread and that is just not right.

:D

I'll fix that right now...


http://img367.imageshack.us/img367/6704/s4tw028725x5900ph.jpg

*sigh*

[green]

I'll reply in the Talon thread... poor Tommy ain't getting any love right now in this thread and that is just not right.

:D

I'll fix that right now...


http://img367.imageshack.us/img367/6704/s4tw028725x5900ph.jpg

*sigh*

Tommy needs a new suit:(
That ones getting a work out.

[Serene]

^I'll buy him a new suit.
Of course, multiple fittings may be required.

:D

[triplet]

^I'll buy him a new suit.
Of course, multiple fittings may be required.

:D

I'll volunteer to do the tailoring...

Of course, I'll have to triple check *ahem* the inseam and seat rise measurements...

I'd wanta make sure the man's assets got plenty of room, dontcha know?



:eek:

Ooops...


Did I say that out loud... ;) :p :D How embarrassing... :O

[green]

^I'll buy him a new suit.
Of course, multiple fittings may be required.

:D


He could just do without it period.;)

[Serene]

He could just do without it period.;)

I like the way you think. :)

[green]

I like the way you think. :)


It is summer after all.:up:

[triplet]

Lol!

:D

[Serene]

There's a new interview clip with Kristin from E! that features a snippet of Tom talking about how he was responsible for his own "look" at the CW thing.

I had to cap a few pics.. he looks so good.

http://img63.imageshack.us/img63/3840/ecap20nj.jpghttp://img277.imageshack.us/img277/436/ecap12ly.jpg
Sorry for the fuzziness.. Someday I'll learn how to capture streaming video. :D

[AgentPat]

There's a new interview clip with Kristin from E! that features a snippet of Tom talking about how he was responsible for his own "look" at the CW thing.

I had to cap a few pics.. he looks so good.

http://img63.imageshack.us/img63/3840/ecap20nj.jpghttp://img277.imageshack.us/img277/436/ecap12ly.jpg
Sorry for the fuzziness.. Someday I'll learn how to capture streaming video. :DNice!

That comment was cute. Something to the effect of, "there's a lot of people on SV who are responsible for my look, but I was responsible for it today." As if to say, "I'm to blame if it looks bad." Hah! Don't sweat it, Tom, you could dress in a burlap sack and you'd still look good. :D :up:

Here's the link for folks who want to see the vid:
http://www.eonline.com/On/Enews/index.html

[Whiteflag]

There's a new interview clip with Kristin from E! that features a snippet of Tom talking about how he was responsible for his own "look" at the CW thing.

I had to cap a few pics.. he looks so good.

http://img63.imageshack.us/img63/3840/ecap20nj.jpghttp://img277.imageshack.us/img277/436/ecap12ly.jpg
Sorry for the fuzziness.. Someday I'll learn how to capture streaming video. :D

Those caps are wonderful! Thanks!:up:

Could we hope for a few more, please? :)

(And thanks AgentPat and Triplet for the gorgeous pics. There's never enough Tommy love going around!

[avidreader]

Those caps are wonderful! Thanks!:up:

Could we hope for a few more, please? :)

(And thanks AgentPat and Triplet for the gorgeous pics. There's never enough Tommy love going around!

There's plenty around here. You should hang out more often. :)

[Whiteflag]

There's plenty around here. You should hang out more often. :)

I can try. :)

Gushing about Tom... What a terrible sacrifice! :D

[avidreader]

join the party

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[AgentPat]

[Pat muses into the ether]

Y'know, I may not post that much, but I do get around various Superman boards across the Net. I see a LOT of things on a daily basis - pictures, drawings, screen caps, promo photos, trailers - you name it! All sorts of stuff. Most of the time, it registers like data being entered into a computer - no real emotion involved - just pieces of information logged for posterity.

But then I see a picture like this, TW as Clark...

http://www.patcostello.com/temp/vessel5b.jpg

...and it's no longer an analytical observation or a piece of cold data for archival. An emotional connection is made. There's no "thinking" involved anymore; it's all feeling. Sometimes it's happy. Sometimes it's sad. And sometimes it just hurts. But it's always heartfelt.

That kind of love and pathos isn't easily transferable. At this point, I'd rather attempt to hold back the ocean with a broom. I think that would be an easier task...

http://www.patcostello.com/smileys/superman3.gif

[triplet]

Nice!

That comment was cute. Something to the effect of, "there's a lot of people on SV who are responsible for my look, but I was responsible for it today." As if to say, "I'm to blame if it looks bad." Hah! Don't sweat it, Tom, you could dress in a burlap sack and you'd still look good. :D :up:

Here's the link for folks who want to see the vid:
http://www.eonline.com/On/Enews/index.html

Okay, I have no idea where the clip is from that link you gave...

Any hints on how to get there?

[Serene]

Okay, I have no idea where the clip is from that link you gave...

Any hints on how to get there?

Already told you. :)
But for anyone else...
Go here:
THE VINE @ E! Online (http://www.eonline.com/thevine/player.jsp?channelID=enewsandgossip&mediaID=16059)
Then scroll down to Relaxed Looks.

[Serene]

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http://img164.imageshack.us/img164/9975/aquahr328copy3ik.jpg

[triplet]

http://img435.imageshack.us/img435/1051/aquahr299a4xl.jpg



http://img164.imageshack.us/img164/9975/aquahr328copy3ik.jpg

Those are beautiful, 'Rene....

*sigh*

[avidreader]

Wow! I agree Triplet. Rene and Pat those pictures are totally awesome and breathtaking. :)

[Whiteflag]

Those pics are so beautiful! They give me very special emotions.

Brilliant words, AgentPat. I can relate to those feelings. :)

[AgentPat]

Okay, this is very much a TW piece of information - and ED too! Well, kinda sorta. It's only really applicable if you live in Germany, but any TW/ED fan will likely find it interesting, to say the least LOL. That said, I BEG EVERYBODY to NOT comment on this news here though - go THERE and comment if you wish!!

Aight.... Go. Now. Read! But put your drinks down first. You WILL spray your monitor otherwise...
http://www.bluetights.net/theplanet/showthread.php?t=13739

I freakin' peed my pants I laughed so hard. http://www.patcostello.com/smileys/tongue2.gif

JUST REMEMBER, NO COMMENTS ABOUT IT HERE! I didn't post the information to start yet another stupid war. :mad:

Don't even reply to this post. PM me if you'd like to snark about it. :p

[KalKai]

German is so funny, NEIN, THATCH, NEIN.. LOL. :D

Lex Luthor's voice made me laugh so hard, you can't even concentrate when watching that.

[TKodami]

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Nice job on both of the manips, Serene. This one's definitely my favorite. I absolutely love the borders; they really give it an elegant touch. :up:

[JackMercy]

Hey Pat, you ever been to Germany during the summer?

I hear a certain Mr. W is bigger than Hasselhoff there...


;)