The Official Tom Welling Thread

[Serene]

LMAO!! Check out one of the newly posted promo shots from "Devoted" that K-site posted yesterday:

http://www.kryptonsite.com/devotedgallery14.htm

Notice anything out of the ordinary in that photo? ;)
(Hint - look at the woman in pink in the background. Note the W/T and ID badge. Can you say, PA? Hee!)

Guess we know why that shot didn't make it into the final cut. ;)

[triplet]

LMAO!! Check out one of the newly posted promo shots from "Devoted" that K-site posted yesterday:

http://www.kryptonsite.com/devotedgallery14.htm

Notice anything out of the ordinary in that photo? ;)
(Hint - look at the woman in pink in the background. Note the W/T and ID badge. Can you say, PA? Hee!)
Notice she's got her eyes on Tom? he he he he ;)

Who wouldn't, working that set?

But she needs to seriously rethink her wardrobe choices..... yikes.... :eek:

[AgentPat]

...you get the sensation of moving VERY fast and often falling off the edges of buildings and the like.Oh gosh, I don't think that's for me.

Oh, and it's well worth the $$ to stay on property if you can, that way you get speedpasses that literally let you bypass almost every line.Lines? What lines? Remember, my bud has worked there for 20 years. I don't wait in any lines when I go. It's VIP all da way. Gotta luv friends in high places. ;)

[AgentPat]

Notice she's got her eyes on Tom? he he he he ;)She's not the only one. Looks like ALL of them are looking his way. Too funny, eh?

[Serene]

Oh gosh, I don't think that's for me.

You HAVE to try it. I give you my personal guarantee that you won't die.
Might want to wear some Depends though. :D


Lines? What lines? Remember, my bud has worked there for 20 years. I don't wait in any lines when I go. It's VIP all da way. Gotta luv friends in high places. ;)

That works even better then. :)
Oh.. and there's an attraction called "Poseidon's Fury" that is a riot...

[AgentPat]

BTW, that football photo reminded me of something...

You know you're a SV fan when you look for real NFL QBs whose numbers are the same as Clark's. LMAO!!

http://www.buccaneers.com/team/playerdetail.aspx?player=Griese,Brian,8

[triplet]

She's not the only one. Looks like ALL of them are looking his way. Too funny, eh?
Yeah.... very funny.

[rumpuso]

LMAO!! Check out one of the newly posted promo shots from "Devoted" that K-site posted yesterday:

http://www.kryptonsite.com/devotedgallery14.htm

Notice anything out of the ordinary in that photo? ;)
(Hint - look at the woman in pink in the background. Note the W/T and ID badge. Can you say, PA? Hee!)


What does W/T and PA mean??

[jas01724]

Walkie Talkie and Personal Assistant.

Oh, and that's nothing, some of the ep stills have unedited safety wires, booms, you name it...

[RakuMon]

To quote Herc from aintitcool:

3) SMALLVILLE. Chloe’s alive again. Clark isn’t mad at Lex anymore. Lionel isn’t going to die after all. Lana and Clark aren’t together. Everyone’s back in high school. Yippee.

My interest in “Smallville” has waned drastically, and it may not be entirely because it now airs opposite “Lost.” Every time I see a cheerleader gulping krypto-Gatorade, or Clark’s rival using superpowers to make Clark fumble the football, I feel like I’m overdosing on status quo. (And does anyone besides me see Clark’s new gridiron career as a massive betrayal of Glen Ford’s sage words in the Richard Donner film?)

Having said all this, here’s why Bryan Singer, who’s directing the first new “Superman” movie in nearly two decades, needs to watch tonight’s repeat. About 20 minutes into the second hour (if memory serves) we get one of the coolest superhero moments ever to grace filmed entertainment: Kal-El (wearing Clark’s pants) rockets into the stratosphere under his own power, overtakes Lex’s plane, rips open its fuselage, snatches a Krytonian artifact, and disappears before anyone can get a decent look at the culprit. If you believed a man could fly in 1978, wait till you get a load of this. It manifests one of the most important bars over which Singer’s team must jump, so hopefully it's had a look at what it's up against (if it hasn’t already).

First of all, Herc must have never read "Man of Steel" if he thought Clark's HS football career was a surprise. Secondly, aintitcool has never been a supporter of SV, so the fact that he was so impressed with "Crusade" proves that, if done right, even so-called "non-fans" of Smallville could have gotten behind a film with SV cast members. I also agree that the flying scene in Crusade has already made me believe Tom Welling can fly. Singer and company damn sure better be able to make me believe HTOUR JB can fly.

[darkzombiemutt]

Thats pretty cool that even though he obviously doesnt care for the show too much, he can still appreiciate it when something is so supurbly handled. But yeah, the football thing is part of a life lesson Clark is learning, you need to watch more then one episode before you judge it. Also, Glen Ford isnt in the TV show and its not 1978, get over it. Also, JS version of Pa Kent has given Clark much better sage like advice.

[Lara]

BTW I love the Spiderman ride I kept screeming then laughing.. Has anyone heard anythig else about Tom being at the premiere. Who covers things like that? I'm wonderig if there is a show I should watch. Although with all the big stars there we might not see him. Remember though it was at a premiere that we got the JC quote.

[triplet]

BTW I love the Spiderman ride I kept screeming then laughing.. Has anyone heard anythig else about Tom being at the premiere. Who covers things like that? I'm wonderig if there is a show I should watch. Although with all the big stars there we might not see him. Remember though it was at a premiere that we got the JC quote.
I would think that the Entertainment news mag shows (ET, The Insider, E! News, etc) will have coverage of the premiere, but since the preem is post deadline for most of those (7pm in LA, 10pm in NYC) then most coverage for those orgs won't come until tomorrow.

Online there may be coverage tonight on places like Yahoo, MSN and CNN....

Pat did point out that the News Wire service will also have pix from the event to show the next day.

[Lara]

Thanks! I checked those out and I believe The INsider says it will be covering it on my digital tv guide thingy. So I'll tape it.

[AgentPat]

First of all, Herc must have never read "Man of Steel" if he thought Clark's HS football career was a surprise. Secondly, aintitcool has never been a supporter of SV, so the fact that he was so impressed with "Crusade" proves that, if done right, even so-called "non-fans" of Smallville could have gotten behind a film with SV cast members. I also agree that the flying scene in Crusade has already made me believe Tom Welling can fly. Singer and company damn sure better be able to make me believe HTOUR JB can fly.:up: :up: :up:

Beautiful! I'd add that it's more than just believing he can fly; it's believing he exists at all. There's a "human" element that all too often is left out, or made overly cliché in today's super hero films. In order to appreciate who Superman is, one must be able to convey what drives him to do what he does. It's easier for a character like Batman, but Superman isn't as easily understood. And while writing and direction are very important, getting an audience to believe in the character falls squarely on the actor's shoulders, IMHO. All the visual effects in the world are not going to facilitate his ability to do this. Believing he can do fantastic feats is one thing, believing he exists for two and half hours is quite another.

Superman is a pretty complex character. Witness all of the debates by fans on his multiple personalities - which one is dominant, which one is the disguise, etc. Even though he has yet to wear the suit, TW has had the advantage to slowly peal the onion in a way that no other actor has been given. We've developed an intimate pathos for Clark because we can relate to his problems. How he deals with these matters is important to understanding what makes him tick.

Clark wants to be like everybody else, but his biology dictates otherwise. He doesn't want to be alone, but it's in his destiny nonetheless. He wants to be himself, but he knows he can't most of the time. His upbringing has created a morality that drives him to do what he feels is right, even at his own expense. But hiding his abilities when he wants to use them openly has created such an inner conflict that he often feels like two different people. The solution is a simple one, but Clark hasn't figured it out yet. When he does, the breakthrough will be exhilarating because the audience will have gotten to see the whole process from problem to solution. And the length of time it's taken to illustrate this adds another sense of realism to the character.

With a six year absence and a "vague" history, Singer expects his audience to already know these character traits about Superman and accept them at face value. Folks filing into the theaters in 2006 will be asked to already believe that Superman exists, and oh yeah... that he looks like this other guy. Meh. I wish them all the luck. They're gonna need it.

[Lara]

I agree Agent Pat. TW has over and over stated that he wants Clark to be relatable. He has worked so hard to give us a "real" Superman with flaws and complicated emotions. He hasn't in anyway condescended to the audience or protrayed him like a cartoon. He should have the utmost respect from fans more so than any actor jumping up and down trying to get the movie role.

[rumpuso]

Great post Agent Pat! I agree completely. Christopher Reeve has left such an untouched legacy with the Superman he created on screen that I firmly believe for another person to successfully fill those very big shoes, he's going to have to earn it. Tom Welling has earned it. We've seen both his character and himself develop greatly over the last 4 seasons of Smallville and he has earned high marks for his believable performance of our most favorite superhero. Brandon Routh has "won" the coveted role on the big screen because Singer says so. However, that doesn't mean squat if the public is not willing to embrace a 3rd person for this role. You see, first there was the great Christopher Reeve. Then, Tom Welling has warmed his way slowing, but surely into our hearts in this beloved role. And now, Brandon Routh will take over the reigns because Singer thinks that's for the best...silly man!

[Gmanofsteel]

To quote Herc from aintitcool:

3) SMALLVILLE. Chloe’s alive again. Clark isn’t mad at Lex anymore. Lionel isn’t going to die after all. Lana and Clark aren’t together. Everyone’s back in high school. Yippee.

My interest in “Smallville” has waned drastically, and it may not be entirely because it now airs opposite “Lost.” Every time I see a cheerleader gulping krypto-Gatorade, or Clark’s rival using superpowers to make Clark fumble the football, I feel like I’m overdosing on status quo. (And does anyone besides me see Clark’s new gridiron career as a massive betrayal of Glen Ford’s sage words in the Richard Donner film?)

Having said all this, here’s why Bryan Singer, who’s directing the first new “Superman” movie in nearly two decades, needs to watch tonight’s repeat. About 20 minutes into the second hour (if memory serves) we get one of the coolest superhero moments ever to grace filmed entertainment: Kal-El (wearing Clark’s pants) rockets into the stratosphere under his own power, overtakes Lex’s plane, rips open its fuselage, snatches a Krytonian artifact, and disappears before anyone can get a decent look at the culprit. If you believed a man could fly in 1978, wait till you get a load of this. It manifests one of the most important bars over which Singer’s team must jump, so hopefully it's had a look at what it's up against (if it hasn’t already).

First of all, Herc must have never read "Man of Steel" if he thought Clark's HS football career was a surprise. Secondly, aintitcool has never been a supporter of SV, so the fact that he was so impressed with "Crusade" proves that, if done right, even so-called "non-fans" of Smallville could have gotten behind a film with SV cast members. I also agree that the flying scene in Crusade has already made me believe Tom Welling can fly. Singer and company damn sure better be able to make me believe HTOUR JB can fly.


cool :up:

*plays the battle hymn of the republic* :D

[newbrando]

Just wanted to be the beacon of positivity, for once. This is more Smallville related than TW related, but anyway...

Yesterday, I was off work, sitting at home waiting for some workers to come and fix the heat in my apartment. I got bored and started watching my season 3 Smallville DVD - My mom bought it for me. Isn't that sweet. She understands that I'm not spending anymore money on Smallville. Anyway, when the workers rang the buzzer, I turned off the show and answered to door, when they came to my bedroom to check the heat one of the guys saw the Smallville DVD cover on my bed. He picks that out of all the stuff strewn around my room and he's like, "Hey, you like Smallville. I love that show." I told him I had just been watching the season 3 DVD and we talked about Smallville a little. I forgot to ask him what he thought about the new Superman movie coming out. But anyway, anytime I go anywhere people are just in love with Smallville. It makes me wonder how accurate the rating really are because sooo many people watch it and talk about it. It so different when I tell people I watch Laguna Beach or High School Reunion and they just laugh at me. So there you go, just a little story.

[Serene]

He picks that out of all the stuff strewn around my room and he's like, "Hey, you like Smallville. I love that show." I told him I had just been watching the season 3 DVD and we talked about Smallville a little.

It always makes me smile a little to meet another SV fan. I still have a picture in my office of TW (long story) and time and time again, I have patients ask me why I have Superman's picture up. :)
(The women always add a comment or two on what nice picture it is) ;)

[Bruce_Wayne29]

Just wanted to be the beacon of positivity, for once. This is more Smallville related than TW related, but anyway...

Yesterday, I was off work, sitting at home waiting for some workers to come and fix the heat in my apartment. I got bored and started watching my season 3 Smallville DVD - My mom bought it for me. Isn't that sweet. She understands that I'm not spending anymore money on Smallville. Anyway, when the workers rang the buzzer, I turned off the show and answered to door, when they came to my bedroom to check the heat one of the guys saw the Smallville DVD cover on my bed. He picks that out of all the stuff strewn around my room and he's like, "Hey, you like Smallville. I love that show." I told him I had just been watching the season 3 DVD and we talked about Smallville a little. I forgot to ask him what he thought about the new Superman movie coming out. But anyway, anytime I go anywhere people are just in love with Smallville. It makes me wonder how accurate the rating really are because sooo many people watch it and talk about it. It so different when I tell people I watch Laguna Beach or High School Reunion and they just laugh at me. So there you go, just a little story.

Makes me wonder as well. In my country it never entered the top 20 most rated shows but it was voted the second most popular show blowing away every tv legend of our Portuguese tv and their high rated shows and stayed there this whole time (bare in mind new episodes haven't aired since March) .

On a side note I'm gonna make an experiment: I'm gonna make myself a t-shirt with my 2 favourite TW Superman manips and I'm gonna walk around in shopping malls and on the street and get the ppl's reaction. I'm betting it will draw big reactions especially in the light of how popular the show is here and due the fact the Superman movie is coming out.

[Bruce_Wayne29]

[QUOTE=AgentPatWith a six year absence and a "vague" history, Singer expects his audience to already know these character traits about Superman and accept them at face value. Folks filing into the theaters in 2006 will be asked to already believe that Superman exists, and oh yeah... that he looks like this other guy. Meh. I wish them all the luck. They're gonna need it.[/QUOTE]

Absolutly and not only that, tonight's repeats will only serve to revive memories of what could have been. And even though I'm just speculating, you gotta wonder if those repeats are not a "let's test the waters while we can still do something about it" due to the big outcry of protest regarding Routh's casting.

[Venom71]

[QUOTE=AgentPatWith a six year absence and a "vague" history, Singer expects his audience to already know these character traits about Superman and accept them at face value. Folks filing into the theaters in 2006 will be asked to already believe that Superman exists, and oh yeah... that he looks like this other guy. Meh. I wish them all the luck. They're gonna need it.

Absolutly and not only that, tonight's repeats will only serve to revive memories of what could have been. And even though I'm just speculating, you gotta wonder if those repeats are not a "let's test the waters while we can still do something about it" due to the big outcry of protest regarding Routh's casting.[/QUOTE]
:rolleyes:

[AgentPat]

...I forgot to ask him what he thought about the new Superman movie coming out.See, now that would have been interesting. It always fascinates me to hear what the "general" public thinks about something that for all intents and purposes, is just idle chit chat. You usually get the most honest opinions in those type of discussions.

It makes me wonder how accurate the ratings really are because sooo many people watch it and talk about it.Various networks have begun adding other ratings sources to their viewership figures for that very fact. They know that Nielsen has its limitations. For example, SV routinely places in the TOP 20 of recorded TIVO shows and is often referenced as one of the more surprising anomalies in their ratings statistics.

So there you go, just a little story.My early X-mas present to myself this year (LOL!) was the new Jim Lee Superman statue (mate to last year's Batman statue). I have it proudly displayed on my desk at work. It's slowly becoming a great conversation piece. The folks I work with are industry geeks, so no surprise there, but only one person knew about the film. They all know SV though....

...Must. Stay. On. Topic...

Ack! Too late. Oh well... :D

On a side note I'm gonna make an experiment: I'm gonna make myself a t-shirt with my 2 favorite TW Superman manips and I'm gonna walk around in shopping malls and on the street and get the ppl's reaction.Oh Bruce, let us know what folks say. You've got me curious.

Anyhoo, here's a quick two cap panel. That phone booth scene from Exile was one of the highlights of the entire series for me. Welling ran a nice gamut of emotions from the burning shirt rip [Pat waves to Ruthmarks], to the silently painful phone call home, to the drug like RedK fix and subsequent evil grin. And he did it all without uttering one word of dialog. :)

http://www.patcostello.com/temp/exile6.jpg

[triplet]

That phone booth scene from Exile was one of the highlights of the entire series for me. Welling ran a nice gamut of emotions from the burning shirt rip [Pat waves to Ruthmarks], to the silently painful phone call home, to the drug like RedK fix and subsequent evil grin. And he did it all without uttering one word of dialog. :)

http://www.patcostello.com/temp/exile6.jpg
Excellent scene, truly.

This scene, and others like it where he's been given free reign to not just pose for the camera, prove that as an actor he's come a long way, baby.

:sigh:

What coulda been....

Acting well without saying a word of dialogue is usually a sign that someone is able to move onto feature work and this was last year...

So, just where is this boy's features deal?

[Pickle-El]

I can't help but giggle....

[AgentPat]

Some very nice images from last night's Ocean's Twelve preem are now up at Wireimage. K-Site has already posted two and "Tomadict" from DTS has been kind enough to upload to a linkable server...

http://img91.exs.cx/img91/2318/oceanstw9wf.jpg http://img94.exs.cx/img94/5603/oceanstj9ay.jpg

I'll post a few more at lunchtime if I get the chance. I'm at work now and don't have access to my server here.

[RakuMon]

Ya know, I liked the fact that rather than airing back to back episodes last night, they instead aired it like a 2-hr movie. THAT was really cool! In fact, I feel I've already watched my Superman movie. If Singer's film is an instant classic. That's gravy. If it bombs, no worries. I've seen a Superman movie that was dramatic (Clark's discovery of Lex's secret room, Lois' confrontation w/ Lionel), emotional (Kara and Clark floating, Clark at the airport, Martha confronting "Kal," the Kent reunion in Jonathan's hospital room), suspenseful (the operatic climax of Covenant, Kal taking flight), humorous (Lois & Clark). Seriously, I didn't expect the repeats of a season finale and opener to play so well together. This is probably my favorite of the Smallville movies. "Tempest; Vortex," "Exodus; Exile; Phoenix," "Pilot; Metamorphisis" being the others. Though I don't think WB's ever aired "Exodus" though "Phoenix" seamlessly. Though THAT would be an awesome "movie" as well.

[Lara]

http://img91.exs.cx/img91/2318/oceanstw9wf.jpg http://img94.exs.cx/img94/5603/oceanstj9ay.jpg
Ok someone more fasionable than me must explain if that shirt bow tie thing is as weird as it looks. :p Still looks gorgeous though.

[Serene]

Some very nice images from last night's Ocean's Twelve preem are now up at Wireimage. K-Site has already posted two and "Tomadict" from DTS has been kind enough to upload to a linkable server....


GettyImages has 2 images on this page:
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I don't have an account so the enlarged pictures are watermarked. Still, nice to see. That one of Tom alone is very nice. Not so sure about the ensemble though.. I don't mind the tie, it's kind of an updated looking bow tie, but the shirt..not so much.

Maybe when Tom becomes a little better known in H'wood, they won't refer to his wife as "a friend" anymore. ;)

[AgentPat]

"Exodus; Exile; Phoenix." ... I don't think WB's ever aired "Exodus" though "Phoenix" seamlessly. THAT would be an awesome "movie" as well.http://www.patcostello.com/smileys/worthy.gif

You said it, Lokmon! Of all the episodes I might decide to watch at any given time, THOSE are the ones most likely to be played. There's something so very "classic" about Exile, especially. Clark's apt scenes in Metropolis alone set this episode apart from all others in the series. The elevator rides, the gloomy city backgrounds (looked more like Gotham City, not Metropolis LOL), the scenes with Chloe and Edge - they were so unique and different, it was like watching a different show.

[Serene]

There's something so very "classic" about Exile, especially. Clark's apt scenes in Metropolis alone set this episode apart from all others in the series. The elevator rides, the gloomy city backgrounds (looked more like Gotham City, not Metropolis LOL),

I agree.. Tom did an awesome (again, dialogue-free) acting job in those segments. The elevator ride was particularly well-done. I loved the lighting of those scenes as well.. just perfect.

Pat - any word on the ratings for last night's two-parter? I'm really curious how it did as not just a repeat, but as a double repeat with flight. I know I have friends who made the effort to tune in since they missed it the first time around.

[AgentPat]

GettyImages has 2 images on this page:
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Darn watermark!

Nice to see Tom's keeping the long hair. Mrrrrow! LOL Not sure why people are harping on the bowtie. C'mon folks; it aint THAT bad. You'd think he'd know not to wear such a closely striped shirt though (raises hell with video cameras.) And he must re-heeeely loathe shaving. But I guess having to do it twice a day on SV might have something to do with that. ;)

[newbrando]

GettyImages has 2 images on this page:
I don't have an account so the enlarged pictures are watermarked. Still, nice to see. That one of Tom alone is very nice. Not so sure about the ensemble though.. I don't mind the tie, it's kind of an updated looking bow tie, but the shirt..not so much.


Aw, he looks like such a dork! I wonder if he did that on purpose. Like he was thinking, "How can I steal some attention away from Clooney and Pitt, I know, wear the worst outfit ever!!" He looks so happy though. He always looks so happy when he's hanging out with his wife.
No sound bites from him yet, I assume. Too bad.

[AgentPat]

Pat - any word on the ratings for last night's two-parter? I'm really curious how it did as not just a repeat, but as a double repeat with flight. I know I have friends who made the effort to tune in since they missed it the first time around.Zap2It posts overall prelims in a few hours. Variety will follow with prelim demos later in the day. Final figures won't be available till next week though. That said, I owe Lokmon the figures from Thanksgiving eve. I got those on Monday and forgot to post 'em, but The WB came in dead last - big surprise there.

[AgentPat]

While doing a quick check to see if the prelims were available yet, I came across this quote and just had to repost it. Off topic here, but VERY funny. Just wanted folks to get a good laugh...

"We don't call them 'AOL Comics' because of their AOL-Time Warner owners. We call them 'AOL Comics' because it bugs them."
- Bill Jemas (of Marvel Comics) about DC

LMFAO!!

[Serene]

This one is really nice...

http://cache.gettyimages.com/comp/51840623.jpg?x=x&dasite=MS_GINS&ef=2&ev=1&dareq=E2399169AC85D6DE7F9CD95D11365232495D660AEAC5 6A75621B2AC3A62513D3

Oh yeah.. ;)
Not even a watermark can mess that one up.


Nice to see Tom's keeping the long hair. Mrrrrow!

That "just rolled out of bed" hairstyle really works well on him. *ahem*


LOL Not sure why people are harping on the bowtie. C'mon folks; it aint THAT bad. You'd think he'd know not to wear such a closely striped shirt though (raises hell with video cameras.) And he must re-heeeely loathe shaving. But I guess having to do it twice a day on SV might have something to do with that. ;)

Like I said, I'm cool with the bow tie, it's not a standard issue one, it's kind of funky in a cool way. The shirt though.. bleh. Imagine a solid midnight blue instead.. Yum. I like the little bit o'stubble look he's sporting. I have to wonder if there's some thought out intention there to not look like the teenager that he plays on TV.

[darkzombiemutt]

"We don't call them 'AOL Comics' because of their AOL-Time Warner owners. We call them 'AOL Comics' because it bugs them."
- Bill Jemas (of Marvel Comics) about DC

LMFAO!!


LMAO, thats great.

[newbrando]

Question, is Tom always that tan? He has a beautiful skin color if that's just his skin color, but I didn't think he was naturally that tan. Also, I thought he wasn't supposed to go out and get a tan. Are they on hiatis for Smallville or something?

[AgentPat]

That "just rolled out of bed" hairstyle really works well on him. *ahem*No argument there. :D

I like the little bit o'stubble look he's sporting.We're two for two. :up:

I have to wonder if there's some thought out intention there to not look like the teenager that he plays on TV.I've often wondered that myself, but the non-shaven "look" has been pretty popular among celebs for quite some time. That said, Welling doesn't strike me as somebody who dresses for a certain "look." ;) I think he's just more comfy not shaving. They must make him shave constantly on the show for the character, so any opportunity to avoid the razor probably qualifies as a good day LOL.

[triplet]

Some very nice images from last night's Ocean's Twelve preem are now up at Wireimage. K-Site has already posted two and "Tomadict" from DTS has been kind enough to upload to a linkable server...

http://img91.exs.cx/img91/2318/oceanstw9wf.jpg http://img94.exs.cx/img94/5603/oceanstj9ay.jpg

I'll post a few more at lunchtime if I get the chance. I'm at work now and don't have access to my server here.
He needs to seriously rethink that shirt.... :eek:

[Bruce_Wayne29]

:up: :up: :up:

Beautiful! I'd add that it's more than just believing he can fly; it's believing he exists at all. There's a "human" element that all too often is left out, or made overly cliché in today's super hero films. In order to appreciate who Superman is, one must be able to convey what drives him to do what he does. It's easier for a character like Batman, but Superman isn't as easily understood. And while writing and direction are very important, getting an audience to believe in the character falls squarely on the actor's shoulders, IMHO. All the visual effects in the world are not going to facilitate his ability to do this. Believing he can do fantastic feats is one thing, believing he exists for two and half hours is quite another.

Superman is a pretty complex character. Witness all of the debates by fans on his multiple personalities - which one is dominant, which one is the disguise, etc. Even though he has yet to wear the suit, TW has had the advantage to slowly peal the onion in a way that no other actor has been given. We've developed an intimate pathos for Clark because we can relate to his problems. How he deals with these matters is important to understanding what makes him tick.

Clark wants to be like everybody else, but his biology dictates otherwise. He doesn't want to be alone, but it's in his destiny nonetheless. He wants to be himself, but he knows he can't most of the time. His upbringing has created a morality that drives him to do what he feels is right, even at his own expense. But hiding his abilities when he wants to use them openly has created such an inner conflict that he often feels like two different people. The solution is a simple one, but Clark hasn't figured it out yet. When he does, the breakthrough will be exhilarating because the audience will have gotten to see the whole process from problem to solution. And the length of time it's taken to illustrate this adds another sense of realism to the character.

With a six year absence and a "vague" history, Singer expects his audience to already know these character traits about Superman and accept them at face value. Folks filing into the theaters in 2006 will be asked to already believe that Superman exists, and oh yeah... that he looks like this other guy. Meh. I wish them all the luck. They're gonna need it.

It's funny that when I first heard about the synopsis I thought it made sense, the Christopher Reeve movies were basically sacred in ppl's minds and SV was on the air as an origin story so to them the only way to avoid comparisson was to move forward. But now that I think more and more about it I think they just themselves on the foot, and more so they shot their boy Brandon Routh because that will a bigger task on his shoulders.
They're expecting the public to believe that Superman exists (who they never see "born" on the silver screen or any place else) and not only that
that he is that Superman we all love and worship that we saw on 2.
No one is gonna believe that (well maybe the members of Singer's cult) and I sincerely think that not even TW could've pulled that one).
If they wanted Routh so much they should've taken the time to do an origin story so he could have a better chance. So the public could see him since the beginning like Reeve and Welling.
If I was the director and I was working with Welling it would only made since to begin the movie where the show stops (doesn't mean it's SV the movie !) or do a new origin story and I truly believe those were the options on the table when Welling was involved. We all heard for months how it was gonna be a new origin. This new synopsis only appeared when they got rid of Welling.
As you said I wished them luck and especially Routh because now that I think about ...he got a raw deal in this.

[Pickle-El]

It's funny that when I first heard about the synopsis I thought it made sense, the Christopher Reeve movies were basically sacred in ppl's minds and SV was on the air as an origin story so to them the only way to avoid comparisson was to move forward. But now that I think more and more about it I think they just themselves on the foot, and more so they shot their boy Brandon Routh because that will a bigger task on his shoulders.
They're expecting the public to believe that Superman exists (who they never see "born" on the silver screen or any place else) and not only that
that he is that Superman we all love and worship that we saw on 2.
No one is gonna believe that (well maybe the members of Singer's cult) and I sincerely think that not even TW could've pulled that one).
If they wanted Routh so much they should've taken the time to do an origin story so he could have a better chance. So the public could see him since the beginning like Reeve and Welling.
If I was the director and I was working with Welling it would only made since to begin the movie where the show stops (doesn't mean it's SV the movie !) or do a new origin story and I truly believe those were the options on the table when Welling was involved. We all heard for months how it was gonna be a new origin. This new synopsis only appeared when they got rid of Welling.
As you said I wished them luck and especially Routh because now that I think about ...he got a raw deal in this.


The whole point of NOT doing an Origin was to not tread on you! (Smallville fans) If they wanted an origin, they could just as easily left McG at the helm and gotten Tom Welling the precccccccious, to do this film.

It's funny, you guys get so pissed at Singer, yet you forget to mention there was a snowballs chance in hell of Tom even considering this until Bryan Singer signed on....I guess he was more interested in a NON-Origin movie based script with an actual director who knew his stuff. Funny how that flies over so many heads. If it's true that he read and liked the script, I wonder how you would all be talking if he DID sign on.

[AgentPat]

The whole point of NOT doing an Origin was to not tread on you! (Smallville fans)Aren't *you* a SV fan too, Pickle? Why do these discussions always devolved into "us vs. them?"

If they wanted an origin, they could just as easily left McG at the helmWas Abrams' script an origin story?

and gotten Tom Welling the precccccccious, to do this film.There you go again. Why the attitude? :(

It's funny, you guys get so pissed at Singer,We do? As a directory, Singer is probably the only *good* thing about this film in my mind.

yet you forget to mention there was a snowballs chance in hell of Tom even considering this until Bryan Singer signed on....Nobody has ever really argued that point. In fact, that combined with his refusal to do both film and skein at the same time is probably one of the few non-official factoids everybody can agree on.

I guess he was more interested in a NON-Origin movie based script with an actual director who knew his stuff. Funny how that flies over so many heads.Since Welling has never publicly stated what he wanted or didn't want in a script, there's nothing to fly over anybody's heads. All we really know is that he didn't want to be "owned" by Warners for ten years, and if he did the film, SV would have to end.

If it's true that he read and liked the script, I wonder how you would all be talking if he DID sign on.All we really know about the script is the six year absence, and this "vague" history thing. You and everybody else knows how most SV fans feel about Welling being cast in the film. We all knew that Singer and Co didn't want a Smallville movie. Most people were and still are fine with that decision, regardless of stated preferences to the contrary. I have said since Day One that I preferred it not to be Smallville: The Movie, but I didn't really care either way. The point has always been wanting an actor who we've come to accept and believe IS Superman based on an emotional and intellectual attachment that's been embedded in many people's psyches over the last four years. And those who don't watch SV wouldn't care either way, so why not target as many people as possible?

Gah! How many times have we debated this? :rolleyes:

[jas01724]

Oh. My. Lord. Tom, take that shirt off now! Okay, so i'd want him to do that even if it was a nice shirt, but yikes - that's just hideous.

The write-up on my site -- short as it is -- says it all about what I think.

[AgentPat]

Hey James, didn't you want to say in your review that "a bright tablecloth shirt WOULD look out of place on Neil Diamond?"

[jas01724]

Hey James, didn't you want to say in your review that "a bright tablecloth shirt WOULD look out of place on Neil Diamond?"
No. It wouldn't look out of place on Neil Diamond, because he always dresses horrendously and I expect it from him. I didn't expect this from Thomas. *pouts*

[AgentPat]

Oh, okay. I thought you were making a comparison of extremes. eg: If it looks out of place on ND, then it must be re-heeeeely baaaaaaad - which arguably, it is. I'm with you though; Tom should have gone shirtless. LOL ;)

[jas01724]

Oh, okay. I thought you were making a comparison of extremes. eg: If it looks out of place on ND, then it must be re-heeeeely baaaaaaad - which arguably, it is. I'm with you though; Tom should have gone shirtless. LOL ;)
Unfortunately no... as bad as it is, Neil Diamond is still far worse. Sad.

I often get the feeling that Tom does it deliberately, as if he's trying to make a point...

[rumpuso]

You know though, with the happiness that was radiating off his face, with his wife by his side, I wouldn't have cared if he word a burlap sack. I'm just thrilled he actually appeared in public somewhere for us. It's been far too long!

[jas01724]

I think he'd look better in a burlap sack. :p

[AgentPat]

I often get the feeling that Tom does it deliberately, as if he's trying to make a point...And what would that point be? Does he want to be labeled fashionably challenged in the tabloids, or not be invited to any more red carpet events? ;) It's not like he doesn't have the funds to hire a professional fashion consultant. Or maybe he has, but they're on drugs or something? LOL

[jas01724]

And what would that point be?
"Hi, I'm Tom Welling, and in my former life I was a 1970's porn star!"

[AgentPat]

LOL! You guys are so cruel. Okay, so the ensemble leaves a lot to be desired. I still wouldn't kick him outta the bed. Who's looking at the clothes anyway?

[jas01724]

Well I DID say he should take his clothes off... ;)

[AgentPat]

DTS has a few more shots up now...

http://www.devotedtosmallville.com/modules.php?op=modload&name=News&file=article&sid=234&mode=thread&order=0&thold=0

Such a handsome man.

[rumpuso]

James, do you know if Tom was interviewed on his way up the red carpet? Or, did they just take pretty pictures of him? I was secretly hoping that he would divulge the mysterious movie he alluded to at the TCAs (providing it wasn't Superman, of course).

[jas01724]

I have no idea. All I can suggest is that you watch the entertainment news shows tonight and over the next few days. :)

[Thunder Emperor]

myabe its just me or doesn't tom wife have a lois feel to him as she clings onto him in those pics on dts. i think so, do anyone?

[Thunder Emperor]

myabe he ws going for the clark kent young professional look

[newbrando]

James, do you know if Tom was interviewed on his way up the red carpet? Or, did they just take pretty pictures of him? I was secretly hoping that he would divulge the mysterious movie he alluded to at the TCAs (providing it wasn't Superman, of course).

rumpuso, it says this over at DTS:
OMG....wireimage has the video interview with Tom up on their site......Someone go find it......NOW......Please.......

I don't see any interview though. Someone will probably transcribe something soon.

(smacks self in the forehead) I forgot that they said the Ocean's 12 was a "formal" event. Is that why Tom is wearing the "Aw shucks" tuxedo? I get it now, Tom. You were trying to make a funny. Hee hee, hee. (No, just no to funny clown suits.)

ETA: I think Tom's wife is beautiful. I can see a little Lois. I never understood why people said she was busted. They are an interesting couple though. He's always so smiley and shiny and good natured. And she's so classy and stately and gaunt. (shrugs) How the heck did he find a wife that doesn't look completely obsessed with him, I don't understand?

[Lara]

I think he has a plan. Maybe a see I can look weird and play roles that don't need me to be drop dead gorgeous. It's probably to his advantage to ugly up a bit. Or he lost a bet? He was afraid no one would recognize him without the god awlful plaid Clark shirts. His mom gave it to him as an early Christmas present. See I'm really trying here. The sad part is I just find it adorable.

[jas01724]

I don't see any interview though. Someone will probably transcribe something soon.
WireImage has a video section now, but as far as I know the videos are only available to pro/research clients. And it's not an "interview" as such, it's just a video of his arrival at the theatre. Watch E! or ET and you'll possibly see something very similar.

[jas01724]

The sad part is I just find it adorable.
Heh, me too... but I still make fun even though it's cute.

[AgentPat]

Jeeze... look at the list of people that were there, beginning with Alan Horn...

http://www.wireimage.com/GalleryListing.asp?navtyp=gls====&evntI=1110&PageNum=1

That must have been some shindig!

[jas01724]

This is one of WB's biggest releases, it's not surprising really - heh, I wonder if Tom will be at the prem of "Batman Begins" or "Superman Whatever It's Called"?

[AgentPat]

This is one of WB's biggest releases, it's not surprising really - heh, I wonder if Tom will be at the prem of "Batman Begins" or "Superman Whatever It's Called"?HAHAHAHA!! Now aint that a funny thought. Well, it would be great to see him at either. Actually, I think I'd be surprised if he *wasn't* there.

Here's an interesting read regarding my comments about TIVO and viewership information:
http://www.dtvprofessional.com/articles/viewarticle.jsp?id=29573

And the FIRST show that person lists? Yup, you guessed it: SMALLVILLE. LOL!! There ya go!

As to last night's ratings... well, could have been better, but I suppose it could have been worse. From zap2it:

"Lost" scored an 11.4/18 for ABC at 8 p.m., the show's highest ratings in several weeks. CBS was a distant second with "60 Minutes," 5.9/9, and the NBC special "A Clay Aiken Christmas" was third at 5.6/9. FOX's broadcast of the Billboard Music Awards was fourth for the hour. "America's Next Top Model" was fifth with a 3.5/6. The first of two repeats of "Smallville" on The WB came in sixth.

At 9 p.m., the Barbara Walters "10 Most Fascinating People of 2004" special kept ABC in front with an 11.0/17. NBC moved into second with "The West Wing," 8.3/13. "The King of Queens," 6.5/10, and "Center of the Universe," 5.8/9, put CBS in third. The Billboard Awards averaged 4.7/7 for FOX. The second hour of "Smallville," 2.4/4, bumped The WB up to fifth, ahead of a "Kevin Hill" repeat on UPN.

[jas01724]

It's also interesting to note that "Scare" didn't do as badly as some thought it did. The WB's final tally shows that although it had a lower overall ranking and viewer number than "Bound", the share in the all-important key demos was far higher.

[AgentPat]

It's also interesting to note that "Scare" didn't do as badly as some thought it did. The WB's final tally shows that although it had a lower overall ranking and viewer number than "Bound", the share in the all-important key demos was far higher.I've tried to drill this concept a few times with folks to no avail. All laypeople seem to be interested in is total viewership, which really means squat to advertisers. Sponsors *target* their audiences with their products, which is why they look at demographic breakdowns such as age and gender. "Soap operas," for example, were originally labeled as such *because* of the content and advertising, which specifically targeted homemakers.

[jas01724]

I've tried to drill this concept a few times with folks to no avail.
Yeah. I lost some younger and older viewers, but the 18-whatever was pretty much as it has been all season, if not marginally higher than average. I suspect the young 'uns were watching Rudolph. :p

Oh, and Tom's retro gear is growing on me. The lapels on that jacket combined with the shirt and tie really makes me think he was going for 70's-modern/retro-cool. It failed spectacularly, but I think that was the idea...

[rumpuso]

How the heck did he find a wife that doesn't look completely obsessed with him, I don't understand?



I imagine that was the appeal. Not only does she treat him like a regular guy (I imagine) and love him for himself (not for his fame) but they also were a couple before his fame hit so she has known him when he was just normal like the rest of us. He's a lucky guy to have found someone in this world who loves him for the person he is and not for his looks or what he portrays onscreen. That is probably of great value to him now that he is thick in the business.

They do make a lovely couple.

[Pickle-El]

Aren't *you* a SV fan too, Pickle? Why do these discussions always devolved into "us vs. them?"

-Yes, me , you, and hateful little fellas like this guy.

Was Abrams' script an origin story?

-Yes it was.

There you go again. Why the attitude? :(

-What, isn't he precious to all? ;)

We do? As a directory, Singer is probably the only *good* thing about this film in my mind.

-Not from the Singer is an idiot type posts I've read on all kinds of sites. I think you've read the lack of intelligence used in some of statements. They've ranged from utmost stupidity to blatant ignorant predjudice.....


Nobody has ever really argued that point. In fact, that combined with his refusal to do both film and skein at the same time is probably one of the few non-official factoids everybody can agree on.

-From what I've gathered that only applies if Tom would have gotten the role, I don't see anyone on this forum (actually maybe 3-4) supporting Singer and the same idea he pitched to Tom Welling (as far as we know) these days.

Since Welling has never publicly stated what he wanted or didn't want in a script, there's nothing to fly over anybody's heads. All we really know is that he didn't want to be "owned" by Warners for ten years, and if he did the film, SV would have to end.

I recall a 'he blew it' somewhere in there....and a no room for being difficult. I was all for TW as Supes, then again I was all for John Kerry as president....things happen. We ALL gotta move on and adjust to the changes. Doesn't mean you have to like it, but doesn't mean we should have a civil war over it either. ('What's so civil about war anyway?')

All we really know about the script is the six year absence, and this "vague" history thing. You and everybody else knows how most SV fans feel about Welling being cast in the film. We all knew that Singer and Co didn't want a Smallville movie. Most people were and still are fine with that decision, regardless of stated preferences to the contrary. I have said since Day One that I preferred it not to be Smallville: The Movie, but I didn't really care either way. The point has always been wanting an actor who we've come to accept and believe IS Superman based on an emotional and intellectual attachment that's been embedded in many people's psyches over the last four years. And those who don't watch SV wouldn't care either way, so why not target as many people as possible?

-I truly believe considering there is about 12 Smalllville internet fans on this forum, it's is a misrepresentation of all Smallville fans out there. Some may not like the decision of TW not getting the role for whatever reason, but Spacey as Lex? Bryan Singer directing? The team behind X2? Come on! This is the best thing that could have happened to this franchise. I think *most* Smallville fans will watch this movie anyway....you can't stop the monster that is cinema/TV promotion. Or the nostalgia a Superman commercial with John Williams theme playing in the background can bring...I think it's such a petty thing to hold a grudge on Routh for (which is who lots of fans are taking it out on, check kryptonsite) I'm so passed that at this point, it's time to start getting excited! Filming commences in 3 little months!


Gah! How many times have we debated this? :rolleyes:

-Too many times. Yet we always keep making left turns.


I'm so bad at this quote thing.

[triplet]

I imagine that was the appeal. Not only does she treat him like a regular guy (I imagine) and love him for himself (not for his fame) but they also were a couple before his fame hit so she has known him when he was just normal like the rest of us. He's a lucky guy to have found someone in this world who loves him for the person he is and not for his looks or what he portrays onscreen. That is probably of great value to him now that he is thick in the business.

They do make a lovely couple.
While I agree with this for the most part, I think the biggest problem with your hypothesis is that Tom was never a normal guy.

My God. Just look at him.... Is that normal?

I wish.... ;)

[Serene]

And what would that point be? Does he want to be labeled fashionably challenged in the tabloids, or not be invited to any more red carpet events? ;) It's not like he doesn't have the funds to hire a professional fashion consultant. Or maybe he has, but they're on drugs or something? LOL

I'm pretty sure I read in one of his interviews that he usually lets his wife help him with his wardrobe. Maybe he didn't this time.. and he should have. Or, maybe he did, and he shouldn't have.

I voting with the "shirtless" crowd. From now on all his public appearances should be shirtless. He could keep the bow tie even.. gives him sort of a Chippendale look. ;)

[Serene]

Scratch all that... A man who looks like this can wear whatever the hell he wants.

http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v322/pinaymaria123/pics/tw-ot-thumb-02.jpg(from DTS (http://www.devotedtosmallville.com/modules.php?op=modload&name=News&file=article&sid=234&mode=thread&order=0&thold=0) )

[newbrando]

While I agree with this for the most part, I think the biggest problem with your hypothesis is that Tom was never a normal guy.

My God. Just look at him.... Is that normal?

I wish.... ;)

Yeah, I was kind of thinking the same thing, but wasn't going to say anything. I think it's nice if she loves him for him and sees his inside and all. But I remember when he told that story about when he first met her and he went up to talk to her and she basically blew him off and he was all, "I'm not trying to hit on you" (which obviously he was, hee). I don't even know if that story is true, because I also heard they met through Ashton Kutcher. But when I hear these stories and see her looking so bored, I'm thinking, "What is going on in her head?"

Off topic - that is why I love Allison Mack, she has this obvious chemistry with TW that you would think any women would have. Even when I was watching the behind the scenes on the DVD, there is a cast and crew picture of like 200 people. Tom Welling is right in the middle and right beside him is Allison (no one else in the cast is any where near them). But Allison has her leg crossed toward Tom and her hand on his leg. She's practically laying on him. And she's always like that. Even in her scenes, she's always hugged up on him. I'm reminded of that episode with Cyrus where Chloe is leaving the shop room and before she leaves she runs her finger over Clark shoulder for. no. reason. Hilarious. I don't know, that's just how I would picture someone in love with him would act. You know, they would appreciate his humor, and his inteligence, but they would also find him hot. Perhaps Mrs. Welling keeps that to herself. More power to her.

[Lara]

Well you know it is different when you've slept with someone a bazillion times. You lose that can't keep your hands off each other thing no matter how gorgeous someone is. Besides she seems very classy. Maybe overly so I wish she would literally let her hair down. I saw the back of them on a good day show thing her hair is loooong.

[triplet]

Yeah, I was kind of thinking the same thing, but wasn't going to say anything. I think it's nice if she loves him for him and sees his inside and all. But I remember when he told that story about when he first met her and he went up to talk to her and she basically blew him off and he was all, "I'm not trying to hit on you" (which obviously he was, hee). I don't even know if that story is true, because I also heard they met through Ashton Kutcher. But when I hear these stories and see her looking so bored, I'm thinking, "What is going on in her head?"
I'm not sure she's bored, she probably doesn't enjoy the spotlight.... Were I in her shoes, I would also hate all the photogs snapping away all the time. She's probably a homebody like Tom and would rather stay home with Tom than share him with a bunch of paparazzi.

I don't blame her for looking aloof....


Off topic - that is why I love Allison Mack, she has this obvious chemistry with TW that you would think any women would have. Even when I was watching the behind the scenes on the DVD, there is a cast and crew picture of like 200 people. Tom Welling is right in the middle and right beside him is Allison (no one else in the cast is any where near them). But Allison has her leg crossed toward Tom and her hand on his leg. She's practically laying on him. And she's always like that. Even in her scenes, she's always hugged up on him. I'm reminded of that episode with Cyrus where Chloe is leaving the shop room and before she leaves she runs her finger over Clark shoulder for. no. reason. Hilarious. I don't know, that's just how I would picture someone in love with him would act. You know, they would appreciate his humor, and his inteligence, but they would also find him hot. Perhaps Mrs. Welling keeps that to herself. More power to her.
I think she's a very private person, like Tom.

She's probably keeping a lot to herself... (including Tom ;) Lucky woman.)

[jas01724]

If you think they're never all over each other (including in public), you ain't seen what i've seen ...

I say no more. :p

[AgentPat]

I'm so bad at this quote thing.Iz easy: {QUOTE}Text here{/QUOTE} Except use the straight brackets [] instead of the squiggly ones {}.

Okay, now to decipher the mess...

Yes, me , you, and hateful little fellas like this guy.Oh c'mon. Folks are allowed to have an opinion, even if it differs from yours. Bruce isn't hateful. He's just opinionated. For example, ask King Krypton what he thinks about Welling. Ahem. Moving on...

What, isn't he precious to all?:rolleyes: I give up. LOL

Not from the Singer is an idiot type posts I've read on all kinds of sites. I think you've read the lack of intelligence used in some of statements. They've ranged from utmost stupidity to blatant ignorant predjudiceI hope you're not lumping us all together with the likes of FanboyExtreme?

Compared to posts about McG, Singer has NUTHIN' to worry about. One negative post among the praises of hundreds doth not a rebellion make.

From what I've gathered that only applies if Tom would have gotten the role,What applies? Fans being satisfied with the direction of the film? Pah! Remember, you can't please ALL the people, ALL the time. There's ALWAYS gonna be folks who complain. In fact, some of the very people who are waving the Singer flag today were pissing and moaning about him right after S-V posted the now infamous "Singer offers Welling the role" report. So don't complain about a few outspoken Welling fans. He had his detractors too. :p

I don't see anyone on this forum (actually maybe 3-4) supporting Singer and the same idea he pitched to Tom Welling (as far as we know) these days.Back then, we were COMPLETELY clueless about the script, not to mention the fact that it's gone through a few rewrites since then.

I recall a 'he blew it' somewhere in there....and a no room for being difficult.What's that have to do with his interest, or lack thereof, in a NON-Origin movie or working with a director who knew his stuff? On top of that, the "he blew it" remark has never been explained, and "no room for being difficult" could apply to anything, not the least of which his reluctance to do both film and skein. Regardless, you were trying to make a point about facts flying over people's heads, yet the only "facts" that I see being flagrantly disregarded or ignored is Welling's involvement with the film to begin with. Not to put too fine a point on it, but we were *this* close to having similar arguments with folks who were exasperated with Welling being confirmed as the next Superman for the silver screen. But something happened when a butterfly flapped its wings in Jakarta four years ago, I guess. The rest is history.

We ALL gotta move on and adjust to the changes.People adjust to new homes, new friends, new jobs, tax increases and when their dog Spot dies. But I don't think casting choices for a Hollywood film qualifies as something folks HAVE to adjust to. How do you think Superboy would react if you told him he'd HAVE to adjust to Welling being cast as Superman? Oh yeah, that would go over well. NOT! LMFAO!! People will either see the film or they won't. Simple as that.

Doesn't mean you have to like it, but doesn't mean we should have a civil war over it either.Who's having a war? I thought we were discussing preferences in our choice of entertainment? And when I spend 20 bucks at the multiplex, I EXPECT to enjoy what I see. So yeah, I BETTER like it. Otherwise I'm gonna be pissed.

I truly believe considering there is about 12 Smalllville internet fans on this forum, it's is a misrepresentation of all Smallville fans out there. Some may not like the decision of TW not getting the role for whatever reason, but Spacey as Lex? Bryan Singer directing? The team behind X2? Come on! This is the best thing that could have happened to this franchise. I think *most* Smallville fans will watch this movie anyway....you can't stop the monster that is cinema/TV promotion. Or the nostalgia a Superman commercial with John Williams theme playing in the background can bring...I think it's such a petty thing to hold a grudge on Routh for (which is who lots of fans are taking it out on, check kryptonsite) I'm so passed that at this point, it's time to start getting excited! Filming commences in 3 little months!Ah, so much said here. Okay, first off, what would you expect from folks posting at Kryptonsite? Seriously. That site caters to all things Smallville. Oh yeah, people posting there are gonna welcome Brandon Routh (who?) as THEIR next Superman? Get real!

2. There's a whole lot more than just 12 SV fans in this forum. Most people discuss the show here. Duh. When the film *does* come up however, it's usually only mentioned in this thread or the TW for Supes thread. Big surprise there huh? So if it's just a few people grousing, ignore it. It's not like it will change anything, but people may want to discuss their opinions with other like-minded folks regardless. And given the ever decreasing places where such discussion is "allowed" these days, I don't think it's too much to ask to just let people get their frustrations out.

3. NOBODY is holding a grudge against Routh. But he has been cast as Superman, and comparisons WILL be made. Get used to it. You think it's bad now? Pah! Just wait till the film unspools. I'm not saying it's going to be bad, but every critic with an opinion will inevitably compare him to Reeve first because of the first four films, and possibly Welling second because his characterization will be freshest in people's minds. Time will tell. And any minor humor lobbed here is NOTHING compared to the tasteless diatribes Welling fans had to endure for months from posters who to this day, continue to attack Welling for everything from his appearance to his acting prowess.

4. Last but not least, I was overjoyed months ago when Singer was announced as the new director, and it appeared that Welling would be cast, Dick Donner would be producing, and Chris Reeve was going to be involved in some capacity. Of those four *amazing* things, only one panned out in the end: Singer.

I have nothing against Spacey, but his being cast doesn't blow my skirt up. None of the actresses mentioned as possible Lois's do anything for me, though I have said I didn't care if Madonna were cast as Lois as long as Welling were Superman, so I guess Lois is neither here nor there. LOL I have mixed feelings about the Williams' theme being used, mainly because I wanted this Superman to be new and different - and ORIGINAL! And finally, I DID want a new origin. By starting with an established Superman, Singer and Co are bypassing the most heartwarming parts of the myth, IMHO. In fact, an origin tale is the only reason NOT to use Welling in my mind, since that might have been a bit odd seeing the same actor play out similar scenes with different people. But it's NOT going to be an origin film, yet Routh was cast anyway? http://www.patcostello.com/smileys/sick.gif

So I stand by my original opinion: Singer is the best thing going for this film right now. Everything else, the casting in particular, is just... I dunno, meh! I'm still hoping Singer can get either Steve Martin or Russell Crowe to be in the pic. At least THAT would qualify as "inspired" casting. *sigh*

***************

Anyhoo... onto other subjects.

http://www.patcostello.com/temp/oceans1.jpg

This photo is just wonderful. I agree with Serene - he can wear whatever the hell he wants.

Newbrando, I've also noticed those things with Chloe/Mack. It's really cool to see them have such a close working relationship. The door swings both ways too, apparently. Mack has said in interviews that Tom is very supportive during her more emotional scenes. After the director cuts the action, Tom is usually there to give her a big hug at the end of the scene. I remind folks YET again: these people actually get PAID to do this stuff. LOL!! ;)

Finally, James, I don't blame her one bit. Not one freakin' bit. I'd be "all over him" too. LMFAO!! :D

[jas01724]

Word of caution: I wouldn't post pics from Corbis unless you know a few things about their tracking methods, because they track their images like a sniffer dog. And they, unlike many other images sites, rarely give a first warning before suing your butt.

[Serene]

If you think they're never all over each other (including in public), you ain't seen what i've seen ...

I say no more. :p

Are referring to a set of three paparazzi-ish pictures that I've seen posted on a website or two?

[jas01724]

Are referring to a set of three paparazzi-ish pictures that I've seen posted on a website or two?
You may be referring to a set of three that I found and that were nabbed and put on other sites, but I'm talking about the full set of nine... ;)

Those three aren't the best ones.

[AgentPat]

Word of caution: I wouldn't post pics from Corbis unless you know a few things about their tracking methods, because they track their images like a sniffer dog. And they, unlike many other images sites, rarely give a first warning before suing your butt.Which photo are you referring to? The one I posted? I got that off K-site. If Corbis is gonna sue anybody, I think they'd go after K-site first, not some schmo on an I-net msg board. ;)

[triplet]

http://us.news2.yimg.com/us.yimg.com/p/fwd/20041210/capt.fwd112b20041209jpg.jpg



This one was number nine of 119 in Yahoo's slideshow on the preem....

Pretty sweet smile on his face, but why did they cut off poor Jamie?

[jas01724]

I think they'd go after K-site first, not some schmo on an I-net msg board. ;)
I think they'd go after both. :(

[AgentPat]

I think they'd go after both. :(Eh. I aint worried. But thanks for the heads up nonetheless.

Off to the Land of Nod. Cya's in the ayem.

[Serene]

It's not like it will change anything, but people may want to discuss their opinions with other like-minded folks regardless. And given the ever decreasing places where such discussion is "allowed" these days, I don't think it's too much to ask to just let people get their frustrations out.

*snip*And any minor humor lobbed here is NOTHING compared to the tasteless diatribes Welling fans had to endure for months from posters who to this day, continue to attack Welling for everything from his appearance to his acting prowess.

I'm still hoping Singer can get either Steve Martin or Russell Crowe to be in the pic. At least THAT would qualify as "inspired" casting. *sigh*


I'd just like to give a big :up: to all of the above.



http://www.patcostello.com/temp/oceans1.jpg

This photo is just wonderful. I agree with Serene - he can wear whatever the hell he wants.

Are my eyes going wonky on me, or does that picture also reveal a pattern in the jacket? :eek:
*snicker*
May I just repeat the infamous and very appropriate words of SV's own Lois Lane... "Just look at his face, just look at his face.." :D

Newbrando, I've also noticed those things with Chloe/Mack. It's really cool to see them have such a close working relationship. The door swings both ways too, apparently. Mack has said in interviews that Tom is very supportive during her more emotional scenes. After the director cuts the action, Tom is usually there to give her a big hug at the end of the scene. I remind folks YET again: these people actually get PAID to do this stuff. LOL!! ;)

Every interview I have ever read with anyone who has ever worked with him is unanimous is their praise. If he was some sort of prima donna you'd think they'd just not say anything, but people seem to go out of their way to talk about what a great, down to earth, supportive guy he is. It's nice to hear.

[Lara]

Well he wasn't on any of the entertainment shows at least that I saw. I wasn't expecting him to be though not with such huge stars in the cast. Did any of you guys see anything?

[triplet]

Well he wasn't on any of the entertainment shows at least that I saw. I wasn't expecting him to be though not with such huge stars in the cast. Did any of you guys see anything?
Nope, I didn't see a thing, although Extra comes on at 2am here so I had TiVO'd it....but I don't expect that to have anything either.

Too many bigger stars walking the carpet so the journos were spending way too much time chatting up Clooney, Pitt and Damon.

[AgentPat]

Posted by Brat_Angel at DTS:

http://img65.exs.cx/img65/7662/otp6cm.jpg

Tom and Jamie are on the far right. Not much to see, but still a cool photo.

[triplet]

Posted by Brat_Angel at DTS:

http://img65.exs.cx/img65/7662/otp6cm.jpg

Tom and Jamie are on the far right. Not much to see, but still a cool photo.
Cool photo... shows just how daunting that red carpet can be. What a circus it musta been.

[AgentPat]

Cool photo... shows just how daunting that red carpet can be. What a circus it musta been.Circus is a good word for it. Some memories these people are gonna have when they're seventy and bouncing their grandchildren off their knees. ;)

[triplet]

Circus is a good word for it. Some memories these people are gonna have when they're seventy and bouncing their grandchildren off their knees. ;)
With the kind of scrutiny people get in these kinds of things, you'd think they'd all dress better.

As awful as that shirt of Tom's was, it's not half as bad as what some choose to wear... It's a bit daring, fashion wise, in fact. It may have looked better in person than on film.

Did you see what Sharon Stone looked like? Her dress was OK but her hair was truly awful...

The cast members of Ocean's 12 all looked pretty good, but I had seen some photos of other people and there were some hideious looks...

Is the actor or actress that's at fault? Or are they victims of stylists who convince them some awful dress or outfit looks good on 'em?

[AgentPat]

Is the actor or actress that's at fault? Or are they victims of stylists who convince them some awful dress or outfit looks good on 'em?Yes. Oh, and yes. ;)

It's gotten to the point where badly dressed celebs are expected, and the ones that are exceptionally spiffy get the press. Remember all the ooos and ahhs over Halle Berry at the Academy Awards? (That WAS a nice dress.)

[muscles]

Docker has the source!!!! :)

[rumpuso]

Docker has the source!!!! :)


What?

[triplet]

Yes. Oh, and yes. ;)

It's gotten to the point where badly dressed celebs are expected, and the ones that are exceptionally spiffy get the press. Remember all the ooos and ahhs over Halle Berry at the Academy Awards? (That WAS a nice dress.)
Yes, that was a nice dress.

She has impecable taste, but I was watching this fashion crimes show on E! a few days back and they even had an awful dress by the usually tasteful Barbara Striesand...

It was this hideous pink velvet thing that was draped oddly around her shoulders. Made her look like she was wearing a sack...

So, even actors with normally good taste sometimes make bad decisions.

Tom always seems to be well dressed, to get back on topic. That shirt is OK, but it would not have been a choice I woulda supported, however. (Had he asked my opinion... As if! LOL! ;) )

[AgentPat]

...Tom always seems to be well dressed...Welllllll... um... kinda sorta, I guess. To channel the words of the pimp from Superman 1, Tom's worn some baaaad outFITS! LOL There's this brown corduroy jacket, and that baseball cap, and... well, you've seen the photos. http://www.patcostello.com/smileys/refuse.gif

But he looks great in leather and denim (DUH!) http://www.patcostello.com/smileys/smug.gif

Maybe he should just stick with that look? http://www.patcostello.com/smileys/thumbsup.gif

[newbrando]

If you think they're never all over each other (including in public), you ain't seen what i've seen ...

I say no more. :p
Aw, I want to see!! (crosses arms and pouts)

Welllllll... um... kinda sorta, I guess. To channel the words of the pimp from Superman 1, Tom's worn some baaaad outFITS! LOL There's this brown corduroy jacket, and that baseball cap, and... well, you've seen the photos.
See, I've always liked that style. It just makes me think it's a throw back to his Ambercrombie days, you know, getting preppied out to the 9's. Heck, he never went to college, maybe he feels like he wants to embrace this time to wear his tee shirt, baseball cap, khakhi wardrobe.

Here's the things I'm thankful for - He married someone classy. I could NOT be a fan of his if he was dating a bunch of Paris Hilton types.

He doesn't wear tee-shirts with annoying phrases like: Have you seen my weiner? (cough, I won't say names) Or, Bush For President. (shutters) His relationships and his fashion sense could be far worse. The tux has to go though.

[jas01724]

There's this brown corduroy jacket, and that baseball cap, and... well, you've seen the photos.
I really like that brown corduroy jacket, the colour suits him - and incidentally, I have a pair of jeans made of exactly the same fabric, really nice quality stuff.

And the baseball caps are justplain cute! He was a surfer boy, after all. :p

[triplet]

Welllllll... um... kinda sorta, I guess. To channel the words of the pimp from Superman 1, Tom's worn some baaaad outFITS! LOL There's this brown corduroy jacket, and that baseball cap, and... well, you've seen the photos. http://www.patcostello.com/smileys/refuse.gif Well, I actually like almost everything I've seen him in, even the cordoroy and baseball caps. He looks cute in the caps, actually. And the cordoroy doesn't bother me.


But he looks great in leather and denim (DUH!) http://www.patcostello.com/smileys/smug.gif

Maybe he should just stick with that look? http://www.patcostello.com/smileys/thumbsup.gifhttp://www.patcostello.com/smileys/thumbsup.gifhttp://www.patcostello.com/smileys/thumbsup.gifhttp://www.patcostello.com/smileys/thumbsup.gif

Cool idea, maybe you should alert his manager! ;)

[newbrando]

And the baseball caps are justplain cute! He was a surfer boy, after all. :p
Get out! No way! Are you just joking? He was a surfer??!!

One rainy day, I just want to sit at James feet and listen to Tom Welling stories.

In best British accent: "Picture it. It was 1995 and a young boy leaves the sand and surf to follow a dream..." :D

[jas01724]

Get out! No way! Are you just joking? He was a surfer??!!
Not exactly ... he tries to surf, but he can't actually do it. Too tall, feet too big for the board, or something. But for me, spending time on the beach *trying* to surf still qualifies him for the status of "surfer". ;)

[Serene]

Maybe he should just stick with that look? http://www.patcostello.com/smileys/thumbsup.gif

Black. All black.
Yum.

[triplet]

Not exactly ... he tries to surf, but he can't actually do it. Too tall, feet too big for the board, or something. But for me, spending time on the beach *trying* to surf still qualifies him for the status of "surfer". ;)
Well, maybe for you.... ;)

I doubt real surfers would agree.

[triplet]

Black. All black.
Yum.
Yum is right... ;)

[jas01724]

I doubt real surfers would agree.
Have I ever come across as the kind of person who would actually care what they think? ;)

He even had the long sun-bleached hair going on for a while ...

[triplet]

Have I ever come across as the kind of person who would actually care what they think? ;)
My hubby knew surfers in high school (he grew up in Northern California) and I had dealings with an assistant for the guy who did the artwork for the Endless Summer poster (a classic surfer movie from the sixties) and had looked into that a bit...

It's a whole different world..

http://a1259.g.akamai.net/f/1259/5586/1d/images.art.com/images/PRODUCTS/large/10086000/10086458.jpg


He even had the long sun-bleached hair going on for a while ...
I'd like to see a photo of that...

[jas01724]

It's a whole different world..For sure, but my point was that it's a world you can be a part of even if you can't actually stand up on a surfboard ... looking the part will get you far.

Which still doesn't convince me to care what they think, of course. :p

I'd like to see a photo of that...If you've seen his Abercrombie pictures, you have seen that.

[triplet]

For sure, but my point was that it's a world you can be a part of even if you can't actually stand up on a surfboard ... looking the part will get you far.

Which still doesn't convince me to care what they think, of course. :p True. :up:


If you've seen his Abercrombie pictures, you have seen that.I think I have seen those, and I thought that he looked kinda dumb with that blonde streak... It didn't really go with his coloring.

The longer hair was really good, however.

I like guys with long hair. In fact, I fell head over heels with my hubby when he had shoulder length hair.

It was thick and beautiful with a slight wave and golden highlights, and I loved to run my fingers through it. :D

However, it turned out the only reason he had shoulder length hair was because he was too broke to get a hair cut. :(

I've known him for almost 20 years and he hasn't had shoulder length hair since, darn it. :mad: ;)

[Ardrhielle]

That gray shirt that he wore to the Oceans Twelve Premiere, must be one he pulled out of his closet. I've seen pictures where he's worn that out for other things (but without the bowtie and a few buttons undone--MUCH better look for it IMO).
*Points to Pat* Pat, you've actually posted a pic on the boards where he's wearing that shirt, I think it was when you were showing people (who thought Superman could have brown eyes) what nice blue eyes Tom had.

Now, how do I post images, or can I even do that with such a meager post count??

[Mandrill]

That gray shirt that he wore to the Oceans Twelve Premiere, must be one he pulled out of his closet. I've seen pictures where he's worn that out for other things (but without the bowtie and a few buttons undone--MUCH better look for it IMO).
*Points to Pat* Pat, you've actually posted a pic on the boards where he's wearing that shirt, I think it was when you were showing people (who thought Superman could have brown eyes) what nice blue eyes Tom had.

Now, how do I post images, or can I even do that with such a meager post count??


You have to upload your pictures to some webspace.Copy the url paste it in the reply box and put

(IMG) POST URL HERE (/IMG)

But change the () to [ ]

[jas01724]

I've seen pictures where he's worn that out for other things (but without the bowtie and a few buttons undone--MUCH better look for it IMO).
I've never seen him wearing that exact shirt, but he did wear a very similar (or the same) style at the CbtD premiere last year - it was blue and far more subtle. The stark contrast of the white/grey/black one is the main problem I have...

But he seems to do that a lot, wearing the same style shirt in different colours; he wore a blue striped shirt about two years ago, and then wore pretty much the exact same style, only in white, to the Paley festival.

[Serene]

That gray shirt that he wore to the Oceans Twelve Premiere, must be one he pulled out of his closet. I've seen pictures where he's worn that out for other things (but without the bowtie and a few buttons undone--MUCH better look for it IMO).

Do you mean this one, Ardie? It's similar but not exactly the same.
http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v410/Serene23/tw7.jpg

[Ardrhielle]

Yeah, Serene, I guess I did mean that one. :) Now that I see it that close up, it's obvious it's not the same (I missed the blue stripes). Oh well...
It always surprises me when former models make ummm....maladroit fashion choices (a la bowtie). Where is Helmut Lang when you need him? Lol.

[Lara]

You know now that I keep seeing the pictures it's not that bad. Especially if the shirt was of a very dressy fabric. Most of the people there did have on bow ties it was formal. I guess it just grew on me.

[Thunder Emperor]

Do you mean this one, Ardie? It's similar but not exactly the same.
http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v410/Serene23/tw7.jpg


ok i am a guy,but i must say TW is a handsome individual and he definetly screams superman /clark. damn the tourture i will have to go through watching Brandon Routh on screen. well did any one see the new batman trailer, i know its off topic, but it looks like its goign to be great. ;)

[triplet]

ok i am a guy,but i must say TW is a handsome individual and he definetly screams superman /clark. damn the tourture i will have to go through watching Brandon Routh on screen. well did any one see the new batman trailer, i know its off topic, but it looks like its goign to be great. ;)
Yeah, Tom is way better looking that that other guy... Oh, well.

Success is the best revenge. Tom will probably go off and have a great career doing bigger roles while BJ is is stuck in the blue tights for the next ten years.

[triplet]

You know now that I keep seeing the pictures it's not that bad. Especially if the shirt was of a very dressy fabric. Most of the people there did have on bow ties it was formal. I guess it just grew on me.
I think the shirt is growing on me too... I thought the bow tie was too big, but that is in style.

[Serene]

Yeah, Serene, I guess I did mean that one. :) Now that I see it that close up, it's obvious it's not the same (I missed the blue stripes). Oh well...

It's an understandable mistake, they are oddly similar shirt patterns, except for the blue stripe. I wonder if they are both from a favorite shirtmaker?

That is probably my favorite picture of TW. I have a hard time tearing my eyes away from it. I mean.. damn.. I'm not sure a man can get any better looking than that.

[triplet]

It's an understandable mistake, they are oddly similar shirt patterns, except for the blue stripe. I wonder if they are both from a favorite shirtmaker?

That is probably my favorite picture of TW. I have a hard time tearing my eyes away from it. I mean.. damn.. I'm not sure a man can get any better looking than that.
The image I made my new avatar from is Probably my favorite, but that web site is down... I can't hotlink to it anymore. (I'm glad I downloaded that image... ) he he he he

[triplet]

Is this here where we've talked about the ratings? No one talked about this week's, I looked it up...

It's kinda hard to read on Mediaweek, but it looks like it came in last. Again. Trailing even America's Top Model and a repeat of Kevin Hill.

:(

[AgentPat]

In life, there are fans, and then there are FANS.

Some yahoo with deep pockets recently laid down 1625 smackeroos for... Tom Welling's jeans? LMFAO!!! Not fer nuthin, but that's just WAY too over the top for moi.
http://cgi.ebay.com/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem&item=3856935330

The KK nuts were a little more reserved, however. Only 430 beans for her junior misses. LOL
http://cgi.ebay.com/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem&item=4057559318

Well, at least a charity is benefiting. But still... :rolleyes:

[Lara]

I think it's all a matter of degrees. If I were really wealthy it might not seem so extravagant. Hopefully the person can really afford it. I'd hate to think it's just an average person that got caught up and cant pay their rent now..

[Pickle-El]

Yeah, Tom is way better looking that that other guy... Oh, well.

Success is the best revenge. Tom will probably go off and have a great career doing bigger roles while BJ is is stuck in the blue tights for the next ten years.


You can't have a bigger role on this planet than Superman or Jesus...

[Lara]

You can't have a bigger role on this planet than Superman or Jesus...
One role does not a career make. :p

[Lara]

I have to say I saw that new young guy from Desperate Houswives on Ellen Wow what an immature idiot. It just reminds me how well Tom has handled his fame at such a young age.

[Thunder Emperor]

You can't have a bigger role on this planet than Superman or Jesus...


yes you can, and to prove it. the onl person to havethe highest sucess withsuperman is reeves. even though many other have taken the mantle.

[Pickle-El]

I'm talking about a major motion 170 Million Dollar Hollywood Blockbuster FRANCHISE about the most well known Comic character on this earth my friend.....NOT TV shows.

Think of it this way.....where does Tobey Maguire go from here? He'll be known as Spiderman for the rest of his life.....I doubt he'll get a higher coveted role. I can't think of one....Same goes for Jim Caviezel, everything you do is a step down from these iconic figures. Welling has the luxury of never putting on the tights and flying around on movie screens. He can do whatever he wants...so long as he chooses his roles right. Then again, Smallville will be around for another year or so. He has time to think about it.

[triplet]

I have to say I saw that new young guy from Desperate Houswives on Ellen Wow what an immature idiot. It just reminds me how well Tom has handled his fame at such a young age.
You mean the guy who played Van McNulty, Jesse Metcaffe?
I caught that too.

He was cute enough, I suppose, but probably not the brightest bulb in the pack...

[triplet]

Boy, I made what I thought was an off-hand remark and look at what I started...

My point was mostly that I thought that Tom is better looking than Routh. Also I think he has a pretty good chance at having a very nice career without having to do at least three films playing the same character he's already been playing for almost 4 years...

[Pickle-El]

Boy, I made what I thought was an off-hand remark and look at what I started...

My point was mostly that I thought that Tom is better looking than Routh. Also I think he has a pretty good chance at having a very nice career without having to do at least three films playing the same character he's already been playing for almost 4 years...

Point taken. Though, I don't think his awesomely good looks will land him in a Spielberg film. He needs Movie pratice....a few indie films would be good..hell let him grow a beard....anything that seems different for him.

[triplet]

Point taken. Though, I don't think his awesomely good looks will land him in a Spielberg film. He needs Movie pratice....a few indie films would be good..hell let him grow a beard....anything that seems different for him.
That goes without saying... he needs to something completely different, which is why CBTD was probably a mistake. Charlie Baker was too similar to Clark...

Grow a beard, he doesn't apparently like to shave anyway ;), do something edgy and totally different. Even play a bad guy.

Hopefully he knows this...

[Pickle-El]

he and MR could do a cop buddy flick ala SuperTroopers....haha

[triplet]

he and MR could do a cop buddy flick ala SuperTroopers....haha
I don't know about that, but doing a romantic comedy would also be a good choice... He's been pretty funny in some of the lighter episodes and has expressed some interest in doing a romantic comedy.

It's the polar opposite of what MR has gone through, he'd been known up until Smallville as a comedian. Now he's so well known as Lex, he probably couldn't get arrested on the set of a comedy.

[Venom71]

I don't know about that, but doing a romantic comedy would also be a good choice... He's been pretty funny in some of the lighter episodes and has expressed some interest in doing a romantic comedy.

It's the polar opposite of what MR has gone through, he'd been known up until Smallville as a comedian. Now he's so well known as Lex, he probably couldn't get arrested on the set of a comedy.

Maybe TW & MR could do the movie version of Bosom Buddies :p

[triplet]

Maybe TW & MR could do the movie version of Bosom Buddies :pMR already did that, it was called Sorority Boys.

[Gmanofsteel]

MR already did that, it was called Sorority Boys.
hee hee :p

[triplet]

hee hee :p
He he he he :D

[AgentPat]

...Though, I don't think his awesomely good looks will land him in a Spielberg film...Yeah, you're right. Spielberg wouldn't work with actors who started out as popular sex symbols doing teen-oriented fare...

http://www.extractando.com/entretenimiento/image/DiCaprio_06.jpg http://www.hollywoodteenmovies.com/Risky80'sTitleMenuPic.jpg

DOH!! :p

Give Welling time. He's smart, talented, well-liked in the industry, and already has a following of devoted fans. He's got one helluva future in front of him.

[Serene]

I had a response to this all typed up earlier this evening.. but the Windy City is living up to it's name right now, and we lost electicity just as I was posting it! Grrrrr...

Think of it this way.....where does Tobey Maguire go from here? He'll be known as Spiderman for the rest of his life.....I doubt he'll get a higher coveted role. I can't think of one....Same goes for Jim Caviezel, everything you do is a step down from these iconic figures.

I have to disagree about these two guys. Both had established good acting credentials before they did their iconic roles. Although I really liked the Spidey movies, it's Tobey's role in Seabiscuit that is most memorable in my mind. The guy was robbed of a nomination, IMO. As far as Caviezel goes, he's also been around enough before doing Jesus to keep him from being typecast. I do think that playing Jesus may affect his career slightly, but it certainly won't derail it.

Welling has the luxury of never putting on the tights and flying around on movie screens. He can do whatever he wants...so long as he chooses his roles right. Then again, Smallville will be around for another year or so. He has time to think about it.

Let's hope TW chooses wisely and performs well. He is well known for playing Clark/Supes on TV, but he has yet to prove himself on the big screen. CBTD was more of a family film, and his role wasn't large enough to give him a lot of exposure or establish big screen credentials.

Routh is the one who is most in danger of being typecast. His career so far has been virtually non-existent. This is the role that will establish him. Although.. he may not care if he's typecast or not. As long as the movie and subsequent sequels do well, he will end up a very rich young guy and probably will never have to work again, unless he wants to.

[AgentPat]

Maria from DTS posted the latest SV magazine cover. The issue is due on newsstands Dec 21st...

http://www.devotedtosmallville.com/files/smallville/images/svmag4.jpg

Looks like a great issue. I love that cover photo, too. http://www.patcostello.com/smileys/love.gif

As to the whole typecasting thing, I don't think Welling - or Routh - has much to be worried about. But while the former can go off and do whatever the hell he wants post SV, the latter has to run it by the Brothers Warner until the Supes' sequels are off the docket - and until they're done owning his ass.

http://www.patcostello.com/smileys/wink.gif

[Pickle-El]

Maria from DTS posted the latest SV magazine cover. The issue is due on newsstands Dec 21st...

http://www.devotedtosmallville.com/files/smallville/images/svmag4.jpg

Looks like a great issue. I love that cover photo, too. http://www.patcostello.com/smileys/love.gif

As to the whole typecasting thing, I don't think Welling - or Routh - has much to be worried about. But while the former can go off and do whatever the hell he wants post SV, the latter has to run it by the Brothers Warner until the Supes' sequels are off the docket - and until they're done owning his ass.

http://www.patcostello.com/smileys/wink.gif

The same way Clarky got owned by that krypto bullet in S3? ;)

[triplet]

Yeah, you're right. Spielberg wouldn't work with actors who started out as popular sex symbols doing teen-oriented fare...

http://www.extractando.com/entretenimiento/image/DiCaprio_06.jpg http://www.hollywoodteenmovies.com/Risky80'sTitleMenuPic.jpg

DOH!! :p

Give Welling time. He's smart, talented, well-liked in the industry, and already has a following of devoted fans. He's got one helluva future in front of him.
:up: :up: :up:

Yep...

[triplet]

Maria from DTS posted the latest SV magazine cover. The issue is due on newsstands Dec 21st...

http://www.devotedtosmallville.com/files/smallville/images/svmag4.jpg

Looks like a great issue. I love that cover photo, too. http://www.patcostello.com/smileys/love.gif

As to the whole typecasting thing, I don't think Welling - or Routh - has much to be worried about. But while the former can go off and do whatever the hell he wants post SV, the latter has to run it by the Brothers Warner until the Supes' sequels are off the docket - and until they're done owning his ass.

http://www.patcostello.com/smileys/wink.gif:up:

Tom has got a great future in front of him.

Looks like a great issue, but WTF is up with Gough and Millar doin' talkin' about the third season?

:mad:

Haven't they noticed that we would rather hear about Season 4?

NOTE: Didn't they used to asterisk out ass? Since when can we can put that in posts?

[Serene]

NOTE: Didn't they used to asterisk out ass? Since when can we can put that in posts?

Shhhh.. they might be listening.

[triplet]

Shhhh.. they might be listening.
LOL!

:D

[Lara]

That cover is drop dead gorgeous..I'm looking foreward to reading that interview. I actually hope he gets attached to something big I think he's ready.

[RakuMon]

Anyone catch EW's breakout stars of the future? They listed He Who Shall Not Be Named But Whose Name Sounds Like South, and directly underneath was featured good ole Lois, Erica Durance.

Just thought it was interesting that hte editors of EW (a Time/Warner publication) would (subconsciously) link the Superman movie with Smallville. Goes to show, even the general public might be wondering why Superman's not playing Superman.

[AgentPat]

WTF is up with Gough and Millar doin' talkin' about the third season?Annoying, isn't it?

NOTE: Didn't they used to asterisk out ass? Since when can we can put that in posts?LOL! I never even thought about it, but now that you mention it... ;)

That cover is drop dead gorgeous.Indeed. What's funny is just how different they can make him look on the show verses IRL. I mean, it's clearly the same guy, but the make-up people are geniuses.

I'm looking forward to reading that interview. I actually hope he gets attached to something big I think he's ready.Ditto! But I also hope he doesn't rush out of SV too fast. Getting an hour fix of new material every week - with him in the leading role no less - is far more desirable than a two hour film once a year, y'know? :(

Anyone catch EW's breakout stars of the future? They listed He Who Shall Not Be Named But Whose Name Sounds Like South...LMFAO!!!

and directly underneath was featured good ole Lois, Erica Durance.

Just thought it was interesting that the editors of EW (a Time/Warner publication) would (subconsciously) link the Superman movie with Smallville.Who said it was subconscious? ;)

Goes to show, even the general public might be wondering why Superman's not playing Superman.Goes to show that T/W may try some covert cross-promotion anyway. Audiences may or may not care who dons the tights in the end, but they do know there's a difference. They are curious, and they're definitely not stupid. It's going to be interesting to see how these projects' marketing departments dance around each other over the next 18 months. :D

[triplet]

Goes to show that T/W may try some covert cross-promotion anyway. Audiences may or may not care who dons the tights in the end, but they do know there's a difference. They are curious, and they're definitely not stupid. It's going to be interesting to see how these projects' marketing departments dance around each other over the next 18 months. :DOK, I wanna bring up something that IT is Batgirl brought up REeeheaally late last night: She said that Warner's is keeping a tight leash on He Who Shall Not Be Named But Whose Name Sounds Like South ;) thread over on the Superman forum.

She said they actually shooed him from a party early when it got out to the photogs that he was there...

I had argued earlier that his low profile-ness wasn't probably deliberate, and she came out with that anecdote.

With your experience, why would they care if the paparazzi take his picture? Her contention was that Warner's didn't want him overexposed, otherwise he wouldn't be an unknown anymore...

I thought that was silly, this isn't 1950 after all and he isn't under some draconian contract where he can't date people they don't approve or go to parties unless they OK it, or is he?

What are your thoughts on that?

[Thunder Emperor]

i don't think hiding brandon routh is nessacry. i mean when they announced bale as batman, he didn't go into hiding and. which i thought the should have done for that movie considering its history. think sommething is up with wb, casue i have the ew mag thta br was mentioned in. in there it say he was close to signing a deal not that he already has as we have been lead to believe . i would think a mag like ew will get their fact right or is something up. who knows.

[AgentPat]

What are your thoughts on that?Gee Trip, I don't know what to think. Was it a Warners' party? If so, what industry party *doesn't* have Paparazzi waiting to snap elusive photos of unsuspecting stars? Does HWSNBN have bodyguards to shoo him away from the Paparazzi if and when they appear? But he's not even a "star" yet. There was more hoopla when Jake G. and James C. were rumored, and Brendan F. and Josh H. go without saying. If they wanted to keep him a secret, why announce his name AND release a publicity photo if they didn't want the public to "see" him yet?

Only thing I can think is that Warners didn't expect the initial negative reaction among fanboys and is now backpedaling any publicity the lead actor might receive until they deem him ready. Whatever. You can never be fully ready for a role like this. That said, some actors would have been more prepared and versed at handling it, I think. *ahem*

Anyhoo, the whole unveiling thing is ridiculous, IMHO. They've already announced him. What's left to unveil? How much of a make-over is necessary? Is he going in for plastic surgery? [snicker] But seriously, improvements in physique will easily be hidden under clothing - just look at the photos of Bale in that silk suit over in the drool thread. And hair color and style can be altered the day before they start shooting. Even eye color is "fixed" in post, or with the use of contacts. So what ELSE is there to make over? Honestly, I think the reason "we" haven't seen more photos of HWSNBN is because interest in him among the general public is low, and the Paparazzi knows it. Just a hunch.

Wait till they start lensing. Interest *should* pick up when Warners releases some on-set photos like they did with BB. They'll HAVE to get the publicity machine in motion at some point. It's just too early right now, but I really don't think HWSNBN is actively being hidden under lock and key. How ridiculous. Even Tom Cruise is "seen" shopping in grocery stores The reason why HWSNBN isn't is because nobody knows who he is yet. And quite frankly, the general public probably could care less at this point.

[triplet]

Gee Trip, I don't know what to think. Was it a Warners' party?
She didn't say, but she said he wanted to stay but wasn't allowed or something...


If so, what industry party *doesn't* have Paparazzi waiting to snap elusive photos of unsuspecting stars? Does HWSNBN have bodyguards to shoo him away from the Paparazzi if and when they appear? But he's not even a "star" yet. There was more hoopla when Jake G. and James C. were rumored, and Brendan F. and Josh H. go without saying. If they wanted to keep him a secret, why announce his name AND release a publicity photo if they didn't want the public to "see" him yet?
Good point.


Only thing I can think is that Warners didn't expect the initial negative reaction among fanboys and is now backpedaling any publicity the lead actor might receive until they deem him ready. Whatever. You can never be fully ready for a role like this. That said, some actors would have been more prepared and versed at handling it, I think. *ahem*
Yeah, really... LOL! :D


Anyhoo, the whole unveiling thing is ridiculous, IMHO. They've already announced him. What's left to unveil? How much of a make-over is necessary? Is he going in for plastic surgery? [snicker] But seriously, improvements in physique will easily be hidden under clothing - just look at the photos of Bale in that silk suit over in the drool thread. And hair color and style can be altered the day before they start shooting. Even eye color is "fixed" in post, or with the use of contacts. So what ELSE is there to make over? Honestly, I think the reason "we" haven't seen more photos of HWSNBN is because interest in him among the general public is low, and the Paparazzi knows it. Just a hunch.

Wait till they start lensing. Interest *should* pick up when Warners releases some on-set photos like they did with BB. They'll HAVE to get the publicity machine in motion at some point. It's just too early right now, but I really don't think HWSNBN is actively being hidden under lock and key. How ridiculous. Even Tom Cruise is "seen" shopping in grocery stores The reason why HWSNBN isn't is because nobody knows who he is yet. And quite frankly, the general public probably could care less at this point.
Yeah, that was my general reaction until she said "but it is deliberate"... Glad I'm not foolin' myself that not I'm more clueless than I thought...

[Venom71]

Only thing I can think is that Warners didn't expect the initial negative reaction among fanboys and is now backpedaling any publicity the lead actor might receive until they deem him ready. Whatever. You can never be fully ready for a role like this. That said, some actors would have been more prepared and versed at handling it, I think. *ahem*

You don't really think that the Brother's Warner really care what the fans want? If so all the Wellingites would be jumping for joy because their "Superman" got the job and not the unknown. I don't know why ROUTH has not been out in public and is not getting much publicity but I highly dought that is because of the negitive reaction. Superman may have all that power but the Wellingites sure don't. :rolleyes: JMHO :D

[triplet]

You don't really think that the Brother's Warner really care what the fans want? If so all the Wellingites would be jumping for joy because their "Superman" got the job and not the unknown. I don't know why ROUTH has not been out in public and is not getting much publicity but I highly dought that is because of the negitive reaction. Superman may have all that power but the Wellingites sure don't. :rolleyes: JMHO :DWith the recent spate of "Superman IS Jesus," and HWSNBN IS Superman bs that I've seen lately (sometimes even in the same post - meaning, I guess that HWSNBN is actually Jesus!??? :eek: :confused: :mad: ) I've sorta lost any interest I may have had on that topic...

If that level of fanaticism is what it takes to be a "real" Superman fan, then I'm glad I'm not one and I actually hope that HWSNBN stays in whatever spider hole WB's have put him into.

Anyway, I thought Singer said he "was" Superman to anyone who looked at him...

HWSNBN has been the annointed one for so many but if he is so worthy and IS Superman, why is it taking so long for him to be "prepped" for the role?

Why do they need to wait to unveil HWSNBN as Superman if he's so spot on for the part now?

You can't have it both ways.

It's all sanctimonious and rub it into Wellingite faces bull****....

I'll stay over here on the Smallville forum and be safely Tom obsessed without worrying over much about that other guy any more.

[AgentPat]

She didn't say, but she said he wanted to stay but wasn't allowed or something... LOL. Okay. :rolleyes: ;)

Yeah, that was my general reaction until she said "but it is deliberate"... Glad I'm not foolin' myself that not I'm more clueless than I thought...Well, it may HAVE been deliberate. My point though is that deliberate or not, it's just plain silly. People just don't care, and if Warners thinks the general public gives a flying you-know-what at this point, they're only fooling themselves.

...Or perhaps, they're trying to MANUFACTURE buzz?? By saying they're keeping their new golden boy under lock and key and out of the public eye, they may be trying to create interest. It's sort of reverse psychology, but sometimes it works. Of course, they already blew that plan when they released his promo photo.

Psssst... Hey Warners? Get a clue. We've already seen his picture. We aint impressed. Try again. ;)

You don't really think that the Brother's Warner really care what the fans want?... http://www.patcostello.com/smileys/confused.gif

Umm... what part of my post made you arrive at that assumption, Venom? It's precisely because they DO care that all of the smoke and mirror stuff continues.

I don't know why ROUTH has not been out in public and is not getting much publicity but I highly doubt that is because of the negative reaction.:rolleyes: I didn't say that, but just to be clear, IF Warners is intentionally keeping the lid on further publicity involving HWSNBN, there must be a reason for it. And since a publicity mug has *already* been released, and Singer and Co. have *already* issued statements to press about their new wonder boy and how much he already looks like Superman *cough* yada yada, then SOMETHING is up. So either they're trying to keep potential bad buzz from continuing, or they're trying to manufacture good buzz through the mystique - or both. Regardless, I don't see it working.

...If that level of fanaticism is what it takes to be a "real" Superman fan, then I'm glad I'm not one and I actually hope that HWSNBN stays in whatever spider hole WB's have put him into...LOL! Well, I'm a big Superman fan, and will more than likely see the film in the theaters, but I'm not bowing at the Singer altar until after I see the movie. And I can honestly say I won't be bowing at Routh's altar before *or* after. Warner's best promo photo of the dude is okay at best. Just don't put it next to anybody else's 'cause he'd be one of the first ones I'd vote off the island. LOL



PS: Is it me, or is the board server wigging out today?

Edited because spelling and grammar are too easily nitpicked LOL.

[muscles]

Pat do you think welling still has a shot?

[AgentPat]

Pat do you think welling still has a shot?Maybe in a parallel universe, Muscles. ;)

[triplet]

LOL! Well, I'm a big Superman fan, and will more than likely see the film in the theaters, but I'm not bowing at the Singer altar until after I see the movie. And I can honestly say I won't be bowing at Routh's alter before *or* after. Warner's best promo photo of the dude is okay at best. Just don't put it next to anybody else's 'cause he'd be one of the first ones I'd vote off the island. LOL LOL!


PS: Is it me, or is the board server wigging out today?Yeah, it's been doing that a lot lately. I had posted some long ass reply to one of your posts actually and lost it and lost interest in trying to recreate it when it kept crapping out on me trying to just get back on the forums....

I'm just all around cranky today, I guess, and am totally tired of people putting up HWSNBN up on that ****ing tall pedastal they got him on... When he falls off that sucker, it's not gonna be pretty.

And comparing him to Jesus (even by inference) was just the last straw.

I'll be better tomorrow. ;) I promise.

[AgentPat]

Yeah, it's been doing that a lot lately. I had posted some long ass reply to one of your posts actually and lost it...I've had that happen more times than I care to. Of course, ONCE is bad enough. Now I cut and paste to notepad before posting, just in case.

I'm just all around cranky today, I guess, and am totally tired of people putting up HWSNBN up on that ****ing tall pedestal they got him on... When he falls off that sucker, it's not gonna be pretty.Eh, don't let it get to ya. I was over at Blue Tights this morning myself and LMAO. Y'know, they're STILL arguing in the Welling thread over there? Who'da thunk! That just made my day. Hee!

And comparing him to Jesus (even by inference) was just the last straw.Who did that? I musta missed that post, thankfully.

I'll be better tomorrow. ;) I promise.Oh, don't get "better" on our account. It's good when folks stay passionate about what they believe in, even if it IS just a silly movie. ;)

[Venom71]

Pat do you think welling still has a shot?
I think he does...he has a great shot at being in CBTD 2 :p

[Lara]

Guess what I was flipping channels today and in a live interview the View was asking Jude Law if he'll be Superman. WTF?... maybe alot of people still don't know. Ha maybe HWSNBN was drunk at the party now that would be bad. What's funny about that EW snippit lokomon was referring to they actually said "meanwhile".. clearly linking the two.

[AgentPat]

Guess what I was flipping channels today and in a live interview the View was asking Jude Law if he'll be Superman. WTF? Indeed! More interesting would be Law's answer. (He should have said yes LMAO!!)

maybe a lot of people still don't know.There's still LOTS of people who don't even know another Superman film is in pre production. I've had the weirdest reactions from people too. Some say why bother, as if there's no reason to re-make the Donner film. Well.... I may not agree with that mentality, but I can definitely understand where folks are coming from. I honestly don't see ANY live action comic book film ever beating the classic feel and epic qualities that Donner achieved in 1978. It really was a masterpiece.

What's funny about that EW snippet lokomon was referring to they actually said "meanwhile".. clearly linking the two.Just wait! I KNOW they're not gonna let this marketing opportunity slip through their fingers. And if they do, they're more dumb than a box of rocks. (I'm sure James would vote for the latter LOL.)

[Pickle-El]

Well, it may HAVE been deliberate. My point though is that deliberate or not, it's just plain silly. People just don't care, and if Warners thinks the general public gives a flying you-know-what at this point, they're only fooling themselves.

Bring up the name Superman and it creates attention....they basically just gave a face to go with the 'Unknown' BR. That's pretty much all they did, nothing more.


...Or perhaps, they're trying to MANUFACTURE buzz?? By saying they're keeping their new golden boy under lock and key and out of the public eye, they may be trying to create interest. It's sort of reverse psychology, but sometimes it works. Of course, they already blew that plan when they released his promo photo.

Bingo. Get the name out....I don't see how they 'blew it'. Maybe in your eyes, but not in the general public.

Psssst... Hey Warners? Get a clue. We've already seen his picture. We aint impressed. Try again. ;)

He's obviously not as good looking as the precious ;), but he does have a deeper voice and older look IMO. Everything else is just speculation at this point.


:rolleyes: I didn't say that, but just to be clear, IF Warners is intentionally keeping the lid on further publicity involving HWSNBN, there must be a reason for it. And since a publicity mug has *already* been released, and Singer and Co. have *already* issued statements to press about their new wonder boy and how much he already looks like Superman *cough* yada yada, then SOMETHING is up. So either they're trying to keep potential bad buzz from continuing, or they're trying to manufacture good buzz through the mystique - or both. Regardless, I don't see it working.

Bad Buzz???? This is the internet, it's what people here do. Anonymously slander others....I doubt they have lost a wink of sleep over it. The now divine Batman script didn't get 100% positive feedback when that script was leaked.You had people who hated it...I doubt Nolan really cared. Besides, it's Batman's turn to shine....they aren't dumb enough to have Routh all over the place this early when Superman doesn't come out for another 1 1/2 years. 05 will be all about Batman, you don't throw a wrech in those wheels the size of Superman right now...THAT would piss of fans.

LOL! Well, I'm a big Superman fan, and will more than likely see the film in the theaters, but I'm not bowing at the Singer altar until after I see the movie. And I can honestly say I won't be bowing at Routh's altar before *or* after. Warner's best promo photo of the dude is okay at best. Just don't put it next to anybody else's 'cause he'd be one of the first ones I'd vote off the island. LOL


How does it go...oh yeah!
:rolleyes:

:D

ps. See, I learned to use the quote thing!

[Venom71]

Bring up the name Superman and it creates attention....they basically just gave a face to go with the 'Unknown' BR. That's pretty much all they did, nothing more.



Bingo. Get the name out....I don't see how they 'blew it'. Maybe in your eyes, but not in the general public.

He's obviously not as good looking as the precious ;), but he does have a deeper voice and older look IMO. Everything else is just speculation at this point.



Bad Buzz???? This is the internet, it's what people here do. Anonymously slander others....I doubt they have lost a wink of sleep over it. The now divine Batman script didn't get 100% positive feedback when that script was leaked.You had people who hated it...I doubt Nolan really cared. Besides, it's Batman's turn to shine....they aren't dumb enough to have Routh all over the place this early when Superman doesn't come out for another 1 1/2 years. 05 will be all about Batman, you don't throw a wrech in those wheels the size of Superman right now...THAT would piss of fans.


How does it go...oh yeah!
:rolleyes:

:D

ps. See, I learned to use the quote thing!

:up: Great post and some really great points!

[jas01724]

(I'm sure James would vote for the latter LOL.)
Even a box of rocks would know not to miss a cross-promotion opportunity like this.

This circuitous discussion is mind-numbing.

[AgentPat]

Pickle, I *think* we're probably arguing the same things here, eg: we shouldn't be arguing at all 'cause we're saying the same thing. We've both pointed out that it's too early to be doing ANY publicity for Superman, particularly because BB is due out in six months. So trying to foster any buzz over who they cast for their Superman film - a property not due to unspool for over a year and a half - is silly. The lead has already been announced, displayed (so to speak) and discussed openly in the media. The fanfare is over. If people really cared, journalists wouldn't be asking Jude Law if he was going to play Superman because they'd already know an unknown landed the part. So my point wasn't to come up with reasons why Warners *should* be playing smoke and mirrors with HWSNBN, but to point out how silly it is for them to be doing so, if they even are at all. People. Just. Don't. Care. And the only ones who do are the "anonymous" posters who frequent "Internet message boards" and like to "slander others."

BTW, if you don't think what's said in places like these matters, you should read that article recently posted over in the Supes' forum. Or did you forget about that un? ;)

[AgentPat]

This circuitous discussion is mind-numbing.Damn, you got THAT right! Why do I even bother? Don't answer that! LOL

[Pickle-El]

Pickle, I *think* we're probably arguing the same things here, eg: we shouldn't be arguing at all 'cause we're saying the same thing. We've both pointed out that it's too early to be doing ANY publicity for Superman, particularly because BB is due out in six months. So trying to foster any buzz over who they cast for their Superman film - a property not due to unspool for over a year and a half - is silly. The lead has already been announced, displayed (so to speak) and discussed openly in the media. The fanfare is over. If people really cared, journalists wouldn't be asking Jude Law if he was going to play Superman because they'd already know an unknown landed the part. So my point wasn't to come up with reasons why Warners *should* be playing smoke and mirrors with HWSNBN, but to point out how silly it is for them to be doing so, if they even are at all. People. Just. Don't. Care. And the only ones who do are the "anonymous" posters who frequent "Internet message boards" and like to "slander others."

BTW, if you don't think what's said in places like these matters, you should read that article recently posted over in the Supes' forum. Or did you forget about that un? ;)

What article is that?

[Serene]

Ha maybe HWSNBN was drunk at the party now that would be bad..

Since we're playing spin the speculation...
I'm going with Lara's. Perhaps HWSNBN has public behavior issues. It would be unseemly to have your new Superman dancing on tabletops with a lampshade on his head. :D

(not that there's anything wrong with dancing on tabletops.. ahem)

[Bruce_Wayne29]

Pickle, I *think* we're probably arguing the same things here, eg: we shouldn't be arguing at all 'cause we're saying the same thing. We've both pointed out that it's too early to be doing ANY publicity for Superman, particularly because BB is due out in six months. So trying to foster any buzz over who they cast for their Superman film - a property not due to unspool for over a year and a half - is silly. The lead has already been announced, displayed (so to speak) and discussed openly in the media. The fanfare is over. If people really cared, journalists wouldn't be asking Jude Law if he was going to play Superman because they'd already know an unknown landed the part.

I think people can't believe that this is really the guy who will be playing the role so they prefer to believe it hasn't been cast yet. Those who accept it do it out of loyalty for Singer and not so much because they believe in him.
What I really wish for Christmas this year is that someone inside Warner Bros. would link the promo shots Tom supposedly took with the suit during the McG era... Then we could have a real interesting discussion.
Oh and Pat when I do my little research with the TW as Superman t-shirt I decided I'm also gonna go on my country's biggest and most respected comic book shop. Those guys really know what they're talking about and are really hardcore about everything comic book related. I've already heard them mention SV once or twice regarding Loeb's involvement. I'm gonna be real interested in what they have to say when I come walking the door with the t-shirt.

[AgentPat]

What article is that?Excerpt of interview with David Goyer:

Q: The Internet plays a big role in the marketing of films like Blade and Batman, but how does it affect you when something happens like the Batman script leak? How does it affect how you work?

Goyer: In the case of that leak, and again it was an early draft and I had done a draft after that, generally the response was so good it didn't matter. Warner Bros was happy - they weren't happy it leaked, but they were happy the response was good. It was sort of the polar opposite of what happened when the Superman script leaked. If it leaks and people generally say it's great, then fine.

But you just have to - there are pros and cons to what's happening with the Internet. The fan response on the Internet definitely pushed Warner Bros to make decisions about Batman and Superman because there was so much outrage about where things were being developed that they felt they needed to go with more credible directors. And a more fan-credible writer. The general response on Batman was so good that that emboldened Warner Bros to go for Bryan Singer, even though it was a very painful decision for them because they were very far down the line with McG. It does have an effect.

http://www.comics2film.com/FanFrame.php?f_id=10837

[triplet]

I've had that happen more times than I care to. Of course, ONCE is bad enough. Now I cut and paste to notepad before posting, just in case.
I've been copying it just to the system clipboard, but hadn't been real good about it... it bit me in the ass earlier. (Hey, I really am getting to like being able to say ASS ... ;) )


Eh, don't let it get to ya. I was over at Blue Tights this morning myself and LMAO. Y'know, they're STILL arguing in the Welling thread over there? Who'da thunk! That just made my day. Hee!
I don't like going over there, Wraith drives me batty.


Who did that? I musta missed that post, thankfully.
Over on Superman boards, I think it was in Sage's "are we ready to talk about this" thread - which is about Clark's or Superman's character and how human he should be played... it actually started out as a really cool discussion, where :eek: people were actually saying how much they liked what Smallville did with Clark's character... What a shock!

Then somebody posted some Mark Millar rant about how Superman is like Jesus and how he is godlike and then someone else said Routh IS Superman and then some Noob comes back and says the rest of us don't just get it unless we come to understand that Superman is Jesus...

So, to use the ol' equations that people are liking lately, this is how I saw that thread going:

If Routh=Superman and Superman=Jesus, then Routh=Jesus...

I'm not an evangelical or anything, but there's something about this line of reasoning that totally creeps me out....


Oh, don't get "better" on our account. It's good when folks stay passionate about what they believe in, even if it IS just a silly movie. ;)
Well, I wasn't really talking about the topic, I was referring to my mood and how cranky I've been feeling all day.

My "wonderful" day at work didn't help that at all either...

I'll still think comparing a comic character to Jesus is stretching it, although I can see the parallels in a very vague way, but saying that he is Jesus is just going too far.

Yeah, I woulda loved Tom to get that part, but I doubt even my extreme joy and enthusiasm for that idea would have carried me to such self-serving, overblown sanctamonious bull**** as that.

And to say that ROUTH is SUPERMAN like he's some sort of gift from Heaven to all of Superman Fandom is reeaaheallly stretching it...

Not all superman fans love this guy, btw.

(I thought I'd just point that out, if all ya'll didn't get the memo...;) )

[AgentPat]

Oh, I got the memo. Months ago, in fact. LOL
Here... lemme cheer ya up a bit before I head off to the Land of Nod.

I've seen photos of TW where I've thought, gosh, there's just no WAY he could ever look better than this.

Photos like this one from a few years ago:
http://www.patcostello.com/temp/TW-TCA.jpg

He then goes and proves me wrong...
http://www.patcostello.com/temp/oceans2.jpg

Un-phuckin-believable. http://www.patcostello.com/smileys/thud.gif

Night, night. Don't let the trolls bite. :D

[Venom71]

And to say that ROUTH is SUPERMAN like he's some sort of gift from Heaven to all of Superman Fandom is reeaaheallly stretching it...

Not all superman fans love this guy, btw.

(I thought I'd just point that out, if all ya'll didn't get the memo...;) )

Not all Superman Fans Love Welling either :p

BTW Like My Signature :D

[triplet]

Oh, I got the memo. Months ago, in fact. LOL
Here... lemme cheer ya up a bit before I head off to the Land of Nod.

I've seen photos of TW where I've thought, gosh, there's just no WAY he could ever look better than this.

Photos like this one from a few years ago:
http://www.patcostello.com/temp/TW-TCA.jpg

He then goes and proves me wrong...
http://www.patcostello.com/temp/oceans2.jpg

Un-phuckin-believable. http://www.patcostello.com/smileys/thud.gifYeah.... :sigh:

You know, someone asked me why I like him so much... he looks like such a kid, you've heard that one before I'm sure, and I said I wasn't really sure but there was just something about him...

I said that I thought that he'd look better as he gets older, and he's proven me right since.

He keeps getting better and better lookin' each year...

If he's this good looking at 27, what is he gonna look like at 37?

I can't wait!


Night, night. Don't let the trolls bite. :DI'll try not to let them get to me...

thanks for the nice pix.

http://deephousepage.com/smilies/grouphug.gif

[Serene]

Eh, don't let it get to ya. I was over at Blue Tights this morning myself and LMAO. Y'know, they're STILL arguing in the Welling thread over there? Who'da thunk! That just made my day. Hee!


You know.. I don't think I'd ever wandered into that thread before you posted this. I try to avoid banging my head against a wall whenever possible. I did like your post though. :)

I like BT, but bringing up Welling there is like asking for a beating. S'okay though..there are some friendly enough people there.

[Serene]

Not all Superman Fans Love Welling either :p

Venom, I'm still trying to figure out if you're here because you actually watch SV, or if you're just here to be an antagonizing pain in the ass.


BTW Like My Signature :D

Voila'.. and there's my answer.

[Serene]

http://www.patcostello.com/temp/oceans2.jpg

Un-phuckin-believable. http://www.patcostello.com/smileys/thud.gif

I don't think I could say it any better than Pat just did. Un-phuckin-believable is right.

Trip is also right.. he gets better looking as he gets older.

[Venom71]

Venom, I'm still trying to figure out if you're here because you actually watch SV, or if you're just here to be an antagonizing pain in the ass.



Voila'.. and there's my answer.

Yes I am a Smallville fan & no I am not an antagonizing hemoroid...I think it is a great show and I never miss a new episode. I just like to take digs at him too stir things up because quite a few people here take things too seriously...me included sometimes. When it comes down too it the big arguments on these boards are about a TV show and a movie...their are far more important things in life than either the movie or Smallville. Some people really need to get a sense of humor and learn to have a little fun and not obsess over who got the part and will he get fired or does such in such still have a chance? I'n just trying to have a little fun at Wellings expense...what's wrong with that? Don't hear him complaining :D

[triplet]

Not all Superman Fans Love Welling either :p Maybe not, but I'd like to think I wouldn't be rubbing it in other people's faces all the time if the situation had worked out differently.


BTW Like My Signature :DWhat do you think?

You know, I think you're basically harmless but the whole HWSNBN being God because he's Superman is getting old. It's really all that funny...

It's just a movie and he's just an actor.

As Pat so rightly pointed out, most people have no idea that someone has been cast much less who.

When they do find out it's not Tom they're usually surprised.

:sigh:

As much as we all got wrapped in who was or wasn't cast, in the end it's still just a movie and Routh (and Tom) are still just actors.

No one is saving lives or winning Nobel Prizes here...

In the grand scheme, there are a lot more important things to be worried about.

[Venom71]

Maybe not, but I'd like to think I wouldn't be rubbing it in other people's faces all the time if the situation had worked out differently.

What do you think?

You know, I think you're basically harmless but the whole HWSNBN being God because he's Superman is getting old. It's really all that funny...

It's just a movie and he's just an actor.

As Pat so rightly pointed out, most people have no idea that someone has been cast much less who.

When they do find out it's not Tom they're usually surprised.

:sigh:

As much as we all got wrapped in who was or wasn't cast, in the end it's still just a movie and Routh (and Tom) are still just actors.

No one is saving lives or winning Nobel Prizes here...

In the grand scheme, there are a lot more important things to be worried about.
Ok Trip I want too apologize I should of never made that post directed towards you. I am sorry. I do want you to know that I don't know anything about comparing Routh too Jesus and too be honest I am not sure what that HWSNBN means.
I agree that both Routh & Welling are just actors and not God(s)

Again I am very sorry.

[triplet]

Ok Trip I want too apologize I should of never made that post directed towards you. I am sorry. I do want you to know that I don't know anything about comparing Routh too Jesus and too be honest I am not sure what that HWSNBN means.
I agree that both Routh & Welling are just actors and not God(s)

Again I am very sorry.
That's ok, I'm just having a very lousy day and as my husband helpfully pointed out, my sense of humor has disappeared and is nowhere to be seen.

I'm prolly taking this all to an extreme level but my bad day was an epic one, one perhaps worthy of a poem or other appropriate literary treatment...

:sigh:

Anway, to answer your question:

HWSNBN = He Who Shall Not Be Named = Routh = a reference to the general dislike magical folk have in speaking the name Voldemort in the Harry Potter books and films...

A dislike I have come to feel when it comes to You Know Who mainly because I am so disgusted with the whole thing.

Like I said, you're basically harmless (I understand you don't mean to be vindictive) but there are some in the anti-Welling forces that take pure delight in rubbing it in that Tom didn't get the part.

So I think I'm probably not alone in finding the "Routh IS Superman" type posts not at all funny when posted in the Smallville forum.

But this, like all of America, is a place where you are free to speak your mind, so I have spoken mine.

[AgentPat]

Maria from DTS posted the latest SV magazine cover. The issue is due on newsstands Dec 21st...

http://www.devotedtosmallville.com/files/smallville/images/svmag4.jpgHey, has anybody seen the original promo photo used for this cover? I thought I had it, but the one I have is slightly different and not as nice as this one. Anybody have this version? Buehler? Buehler? James? ;)

[triplet]

Hey, has anybody seen the original promo photo used for this cover? I thought I had it, but the one I have is slightly different and not as nice as this one. Anybody have this version? Buehler? Buehler? James? ;)
I've seen this one, which is similar but not quite the same.... prolly from the same shoot.

http://www.smallvilleph.net/gallery/data/media/107/s4-clark.jpg

[AgentPat]

I've seen this one, which is similar but not quite the same.... prolly from the same shoot...[/img]Yeah, there were a whole bunch of 'em. I've got that one too, but not the one on the SV magazine cover, which is re-heeely nice. [pouts] :mad:

[triplet]

Yeah, there were a whole bunch of 'em. I've got that one too, but not the one on the SV magazine cover, which is re-heeely nice. [pouts] :mad:
I dunno... I think he's wearing too much make-up.

I prefer less, or even none.

The photos from the Oceans 12 preem are killer.

[AgentPat]

*** ANNOUNCEMENT ***

Tom Welling is skedded to be on NBC's Last Call with Carson Daily on Tuesday, December 21st, along with Jennifer Connelly and David Banner (I'm laughing at those two names together.) Let's hope he makes this appearance!!

http://www.nbc.com/Last_Call_with_Carson_Daly/line_up.shtml

[Pat wonders if she's scooped James again.] ;)

[triplet]

*** ANNOUNCEMENT ***

Tom Welling is skedded to be on NBC's Last Call with Carson Daily on Tuesday, December 21st, along with Jennifer Connelly and David Banner (I'm laughing at those two names together.) Let's hope he makes this appearance!!

http://www.nbc.com/Last_Call_with_Carson_Daly/line_up.shtml

[Pat wonders if she's scooped James again.] ;)
Interesting, makes me wonder if he'll be doing other NYC based shows: Conan, Letterman, The View, the net morning shows, etc?

[Venom71]

*** ANNOUNCEMENT ***

Tom Welling is skedded to be on NBC's Last Call with Carson Daily on Tuesday, December 21st, along with Jennifer Connelly and David Banner (I'm laughing at those two names together.) Let's hope he makes this appearance!!

http://www.nbc.com/Last_Call_with_Carson_Daly/line_up.shtml

[Pat wonders if she's scooped James again.] ;)
When is Last Call on After Conan ?

[triplet]

When is Last Call on After Conan ?
Yeah, I'm not sure I'll stay up for that but that's what TiVO is for.

[Serene]

*** ANNOUNCEMENT ***

Tom Welling is skedded to be on NBC's Last Call with Carson Daily on Tuesday, December 21st, along with Jennifer Connelly and David Banner (I'm laughing at those two names together.) Let's hope he makes this appearance!!

http://www.nbc.com/Last_Call_with_Carson_Daly/line_up.shtml

[Pat wonders if she's scooped James again.] ;)


First of all.. Yay! :D
Do you think this is just to promo the show mid-season? Or dare we hope for some other career-related announcement?

(we need a Stirring the Pot icon for this forum) ;)

[AgentPat]

First of all.. Yay! :D
Do you think this is just to promo the show mid-season? Or dare we hope for some other career-related announcement?I would venture a guess, it's to promote SV. But I'll be waiting with baited breath to hear what's said about the Supes' film. And if they sidestep the question completely, I'll be freakin' pissed. :mad: LOL

If I'm not mistaken, it was on Carson Daily's show that Welling first discussed his being approached for the film under then director, Brett Ratner.

BTW... is it "Daily," or "Daly?"

(we need a Stirring the Pot icon for this forum) ;)Heh! Yeah, really. Give it time... I'm sure Muscles will be by soon with one of his eyeroll-worthy posts. LOL

[Serene]

Hey, has anybody seen the original promo photo used for this cover? I thought I had it, but the one I have is slightly different and not as nice as this one. Anybody have this version? Buehler? Buehler? James? ;)

This one is reeeally close.. but slightly different. Actually, I think I like this one a better.
http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v410/Serene23/tw26.jpg

[Serene]

I ran across this picture last night and it reminded me of the "green eye" discussion we had here. It really shows the blue-green hazel of his eyes next to the brown-green eyes of hers.

(sorry it's so big)http://www.slipped-away.com/tom/sitoweb/immagini2/ipts3_big.jpg

[triplet]

I ran across this picture last night and it reminded me of the "green eye" discussion we had here. It really shows the blue-green hazel of his eyes next to the brown-green eyes of hers.

(sorry it's so big)http://www.slipped-away.com/tom/sitoweb/immagini2/ipts3_big.jpg
Well, I think the image Pat put up yesterday shows his eyes off reaheallly well:

http://www.patcostello.com/temp/oceans2.jpg

They're sorta bluish-green, not really hazel...

My hubby has a lot of green in his blue eyes, but they're darker in hue than Tom's... it's an interesting combination.

My son's eyes are a deep sky blue... gorgeous. I love blue (or even bluish-green ;) ) eyes.

[Serene]

I just found some more pics from the O12 premiere. Anyone know who the guy greeting Tom with the Lex Luthor haircut is?
IESB.net (http://inlandempirestrikesback.net/v-web/gallery/Oceans-Twelve?page=8)

[AgentPat]

Anyone know who the guy greeting Tom with the Lex Luthor haircut is?LMFAO!! That, m'dear, is BRUCE WILLIS!! And what a great Lex he'd make, ahuh! http://www.patcostello.com/smileys/crazyhappy.gif

[Serene]

LMFAO!! That, m'dear, is BRUCE WILLIS!! And what a great Lex he'd make, ahuh! http://www.patcostello.com/smileys/crazyhappy.gif

No way! It really doesn't look like him at all..that's not his face. Are you sure? Have you seen another pic with the two of them?

[newbrando]

*** ANNOUNCEMENT ***

Tom Welling is skedded to be on NBC's Last Call with Carson Daily on Tuesday, December 21st, along with Jennifer Connelly and David Banner (I'm laughing at those two names together.) Let's hope he makes this appearance!!

http://www.nbc.com/Last_Call_with_Carson_Daly/line_up.shtml

[Pat wonders if she's scooped James again.] ;)

Doh! That's a rerun. Unless in some weird coincidence TW is on Daly with same exact people he was on last time. I doubt it though. He already did the episode with Connelly and Banner. I remember because all the fangirls that went complained that no one even knew who David Banner was and they cut off TW's interview just to go to him.

I hope Tom does do something new soon.

[jas01724]

[Pat wonders if she's scooped James again.] ;)
For that, it would have to be a new interview. :p This (as newbrando points out) is a rerun unless exactly the same guests are on with Tom two years in a row.

So nyah! ;)

[RakuMon]

http://inlandempirestrikesback.net/v-web/gallery/albums/Oceans-Twelve/Tom_Welling_and_guest_O12_02.jpg

There is NO WAY this is Bruce Willis.

[triplet]

http://inlandempirestrikesback.net/v-web/gallery/albums/Oceans-Twelve/Tom_Welling_and_guest_O12_02.jpg

There is NO WAY this is Bruce Willis.
I don't think it is either...

Anyway, whoever he was Tom looked real glad to see him... ;)

[The Navigator]

Could be Michael Chiklis--or Brian Bendis.

[Lara]

Maybe it's an executive, producer or something. He doesn't look like an actor. I'll catch the Carson rerun I never saw it the first time which annoyed the hell out of me so yah for me!

[AgentPat]

No way! It really doesn't look like him at all..that's not his face. Are you sure?Hmmm... No, I'm not sure. I *thought* it was him? http://www.patcostello.com/smileys/ponder.gif

This photo is definitely Bruce:
http://inlandempirestrikesback.net/v-web/gallery/albums/Oceans-Twelve/Bruce_Willis_O12_01.sized.jpg


As to the Daly interview, that sux if it's a repeat. :mad:

*sigh*

That really, REALLY SUX!!! http://www.patcostello.com/smileys/cry.gif

[AgentPat]

Here's another:

http://inlandempirestrikesback.net/v-web/gallery/albums/Oceans-Twelve/Bruce_Willis_O12_04.sized.jpg

Looks like the same tie? LOL

[The Navigator]

Well.....basing it on the tie......geez....

[AgentPat]

Okay, I just took a stroll through seven pages of WireImage photos of the event. Photos start HERE (http://www.wireimage.com/GalleryListing.asp?navtyp=GLS====91079&str=&styp=&sfld=&nbc1=1&sortval=3a&PageNum=1).

I honestly don't know who else it could be? [shrugs] Doesn't change my original opinion though. Willis WAS there, and he'd make a great Lex Luthor, so nyah! LOL http://www.patcostello.com/smileys/tongue.gif

BTW, who's Nadia Bjorlin? Holy cow! What a knockout!! Wow.

[The Navigator]

Apparently some actress from "Days of our lives."

[jas01724]

That really, REALLY SUX!!! http://www.patcostello.com/smileys/cry.gifAwww, cry your heart out. :p

Looks like the same tie?Similar perhaps, but a different collar.

[jas01724]

http://inlandempirestrikesback.net/v-web/gallery/albums/Oceans-Twelve/Tom_Welling_and_guest_O12_02.jpg

There is NO WAY this is Bruce Willis.
Do I get to be a smart ass now? That looks like Brian Lourd, from CAA; Tom will probably know him quite well, for fairly obvious reasons.

[The Navigator]

The picture in your siggy's link makes Welling look eeeeeeeeevil.

[jas01724]

The picture in your siggy's link makes Welling look eeeeeeeeevil.
Good.

[AgentPat]

Awww, cry your heart out. :pOh SHUSH! Commiserate with me, will ya! LOL

[jas01724]

Oh SHUSH! Commiserate with me, will ya! LOL
In a word: NO. lol

[AgentPat]

Do I get to be a smart ass now?Since when have you needed to ask? :p

That looks like Brian Lourd, from CAA; Tom will probably know him quite well, for fairly obvious reasons.By George, me thinks you're right...

http://www.wireimage.com/GalleryListing.asp?nbc1=1&navtyp=SRH&str=Brian+Lourd&sfld=C&nvc=E&nvv=15332

Those are the ONLY two photos of Lourd on WireImage. How appropo the first is with PDiddy (currently MIA, but not forgotten), and the other Brett Ratner. Too funny!

[triplet]

Okay, I just took a stroll through seven pages of WireImage photos of the event. Photos start HERE (http://www.wireimage.com/GalleryListing.asp?navtyp=GLS====91079&str=&styp=&sfld=&nbc1=1&sortval=3a&PageNum=1).

I honestly don't know who else it could be? [shrugs] Doesn't change my original opinion though. Willis WAS there, and he'd make a great Lex Luthor, so nyah! LOL http://www.patcostello.com/smileys/tongue.gif

BTW, who's Nadia Bjorlin? Holy cow! What a knockout!! Wow.
Mmm... I think she's from Desperate Housewives, but I don't watch it so I'm not sure.

[jas01724]

Since when have you needed to ask? :p
Good point. *whistles*

By George, me thinks you're right...
Oh, how exciting that is! *whistles s'more*

[AgentPat]

Mmm... I think she's from Desperate Housewives, but I don't watch it so I'm not sure.Well, wherever she's from, she's a beautiful lady. Just sayin'. Love the dress too. Very risqué.

And James... http://www.patcostello.com/smileys/bonk.gif



LOL :p

[jas01724]

I.

Um.

Who just hit me?

;)

[The Navigator]

You no likey Welling, Jas?

:mad:
;)

[triplet]

Well, wherever she's from, she's a beautiful lady. Just sayin'. Love the dress too. Very risqué.
Actually, I just checked IMDB (IMDB is your friend) and she is from "Days of Our Lives." Rabbit Samurai was right.



And James... http://www.patcostello.com/smileys/bonk.gif



LOL :p
BTW: I love the whack-a-James smilie... ;)

[The Navigator]

Actually, I just checked IMDB (IMDB is your friend) and she is from "Days of Our Lives." Rabbit Samurai was right.



Woo-hoo!

:D

[jas01724]

You no likey Welling, Jas?

:mad:
;)Well considering that the site in my sig is mine... ;)

BTW: I love the whack-a-James smilie...A plague on you and your toaster oven!

[AgentPat]

I.

Um.

Who just hit me?

;)Hehehehehe http://www.patcostello.com/smileys/boxer.gif

You no likey Welling, Jas?

:mad:
;)He HATES him. :p
[how really ridiculous rumors get started]

Actually, I just checked IMDB (IMDB is your friend) and she is from "Days of Our Lives." Rabbit Samurai was right.http://www.patcostello.com/smileys/thumbsup.gif Way to go, RS!

BTW: I love the whack-a-James smilie... ;)I've only used that gif twice, and both times was to smack James. Too dern funny! LOL

[triplet]

A plague on you and your toaster oven!
RAOTFLMAO!

:D

How did you know I had a toaster oven? Not everyone has one....

[The Navigator]

I'm not sure if I should be happy that I confirmed someone as a soap-opera star. But I'll take the compliment anyway.

[The Navigator]

RAOTFLMAO!

:D

How did you know I had a toaster oven? Not everyone has one....

A myth developed by the communists. EVERY good American has a toaster oven....don't we, chum?

[jas01724]

He HATES him. :pYep, I'd like to slap 'im silly.

Too dern funny! LOLO thonk yie smuckad my vuwils unta tho wrung erdir.

[The Navigator]

Yep, I'd like to slap 'im silly.


In what sense? Because I'm pretty sure Welling's straight.
;)

[jas01724]

How did you know I had a toaster oven? Not everyone has one....
I didn't know, I just know that anyone who DOES have one gets rather grumpy when they break. ;)

[jas01724]

In what sense? Because I'm pretty sure Welling's straight.
;)
I'm sure if I hit him hard enough I can make part of him not as straight as it used to be - like the bridge of his nose. :p

[triplet]

A myth developed by the communists. EVERY good American has a toaster oven....don't we, chum?
But I don't want my toaster oven cursed... I love my toaster oven!

:(

James, take back your plague....

[triplet]

I didn't know, I just know that anyone who DOES have one gets rather grumpy when they break. ;)
Then why did you curse mine! :confused:

Damn you.... :mad:

;)

[The Navigator]

I'm sure if I hit him hard enough I can make part of him not as straight as it used to be - like the bridge of his nose. :p

LOL! :D

[The Navigator]

But I don't want my toaster oven cursed... I love my toaster oven!

:(

James, take back your plague....

Don't you start with that touchy-feel crap, you pinko. Back to red country if you're gonna whine when they target the toaster oven. :mad:
;)

[AgentPat]

How did you know I had a toaster oven? Not everyone has one....Aren't they like microwave ovens and cell phones? eg: sort of necessary these days - or at least we *think* they're necessary?

Yep, I'd like to slap 'im silly.Oh, I BET you would! :cool:

O thonk yie smuckad my vuwils unta tho wrung erdir.Nah. It was intentional.

In what sense? Because I'm pretty sure Welling's straight.;)[checks URL] Nope, we're not on the IMDb boards. Phew!

[jas01724]

James, take back your plague....
Only if you take back your sponsorship of whack-a-James.

[AgentPat]

Only if you take back your sponsorship of whack-a-James.Awwww! No fair! :(

James is playing dirty.

[triplet]

Only if you take back your sponsorship of whack-a-James.No, I won't. I love that smilie and you deserved it, you snarky Brit.

:mad:

A plague on your... your.... ah... your tea cozy!

[jas01724]

Oh, I BET you would! :cool:
That's spanking, not slapping; and aside from that, I have no comeback. This is a tragedy.

Give me a minute and i'll think of something clever...

[triplet]

Awwww! No fair! :(

James is playing dirty.I won't give in, Pat. You can count on me... I cursed his tea cozy.

That'll get 'im... ;)

[jas01724]

James is playing dirty.Oh don't you start, we already got told off for talking about mud wrestling a few weeks back...

A plague on your... your.... ah... your tea cozy!You could have at least plagued something interesting... :cool:

How about plaguing my DVD player? I'd like an excuse to get a new one.

[AgentPat]

BTW, just to keep this thread semi sorta on topic so the mods don't lose it with us, I believe the photo on the right below was taken on the Carson Daly show:

http://www.patcostello.com/temp/profile.jpg

James can probably verify if that is the same show that's being repeated next week. I believe the show aired last December, so the interview will be a year old already. *sigh*

[jas01724]

http://www.patcostello.com/temp/profile.jpg
Ah, my dear fuzzy-face...

*ahem*

Yes, that was from his interview with Carson Dozy.

[triplet]

Oh don't you start, we already got told off for talking about mud wrestling a few weeks back...
Who told you off for talking about mud wrestling? I don't remember that convo...


You could have at least plagued something interesting... :cool:

How about plaguing my DVD player? I'd like an excuse to get a new one.
Well, now it won't be funny if I plague your DVD player.....

Wasn't the tea cozy bit at least a little bit funny? A little?

[jas01724]

Who told you off for talking about mud wrestling? I don't remember that convo...Ardhielle did. She's bossy. ;)

Well, now it won't be funny if I plague your DVD player.....It will be for me. :D

Wasn't the tea cozy bit at least a little bit funny? A little?

Yes, yes it was. *pats triplet on the head*