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kakarot
11-05-2004, 08:45 AM
i think that the most powerfull Character would be Apocalypse because we was the first mutant anyone think i am wrong please tell me who is the most powerfull mutant in marvel character. thanks.

DBM
11-05-2004, 09:18 AM
I totally think you are wrong. If you are talking the strongest mutant then Nate Grey, Cable, Magneto, and Xavier are all capable of taking Apocalypse down so I would say they are all more powerful.

If you are talking most powerful of all Marvel characters, and not just mutants, then Apocalypse doesn't even make it into the top twenty.

newnoiseimage
11-05-2004, 09:18 AM
there are tons more powerful than him, there is the hulk, galactus, the living tribunal, silver surfer, sentry, hyperion, the celestials etc.

you have to be more specific as to what the limitations are, and search the threads, this has been discussed to death.

Doc Destruction
11-05-2004, 09:20 AM
Eternity and Death. The end.

kakarot
11-05-2004, 09:33 AM
who is the strongest mutant then in a fight tell death

Morg
11-05-2004, 09:37 AM
i think that the most powerfull Character would be Apocalypse because we was the first mutant anyone think i am wrong please tell me who is the most powerfull mutant in marvel character. thanks.


Apocalypse is hardly the most powerful mutant. Frankie Richard is probably one of most powerful(at full strength) mutant, most powerful Marvel character?
celestials, living tribunal, galactus, watchers, thanos. are a few of the heavy weights :)

Goldenage Batman
11-05-2004, 10:42 AM
I really don't know that much about this stuff but what about the phoenix or sabertooth < I think he would go in the most dangerous mutant section wouldn't he? Or magneto, wolverine's got that healing facter so he can keep on going for awhile.But in my own little thoughts I think it's rouge.

DBM
11-05-2004, 10:45 AM
I really don't know that much about this stuff but what about the phoenix or sabertooth < I think he would go in the most dangerous mutant section wouldn't he? Or magneto, wolverine's got that healing facter so he can keep on going for awhile.But in my own little thoughts I think it's rouge.

Sabertooth? :confused: You've got to be kidding.

And it's Rogue, not rouge.

Gambit8370
11-05-2004, 10:46 AM
I have an old Rogue action figure from X-Men animated where she had on too much rouge.

Goldenage Batman
11-05-2004, 10:55 AM
Sabertooth? :confused: You've got to be kidding.

And it's Rogue, not rouge.
Umm sorry ok I misspelled "Rogue" shoot me. And what's wrong with Sabertooth? If he has his eyes on something he wants to kill he'll do it and kill it, he's the perfect killing machine. He's heartless unlike wolverine who would only kill those who he sees as a threat, now as Sabertooth he'll just kill everyone around him, even women and childern. He is a true monster mutant.:xmen:

DBM
11-05-2004, 10:55 AM
I have an old Rogue action figure from X-Men animated where she had on too much rouge.

It's because she's Southern. Tramp.

Gambit8370
11-05-2004, 11:01 AM
Umm sorry ok I misspelled "Rogue" shoot me. And what's wrong with Sabertooth? If he has his eyes on something he wants to kill he'll do it and kill it, he's the perfect killing machine. He's heartless unlike wolverine who would only kill those who he sees as a threat, now as Sabertooth he'll just kill everyone around him, even women and childern. He is a true monster mutant.:xmen:
So who would win in a Sabertooth Vs. Galactus fight in your opinion?

Goldenage Batman
11-05-2004, 11:11 AM
Sabertooth wouldn't be afraid to fight him, it's just that he'd be smart enough to avoid him. But if they did fight I'd say Galactus i mean it took the ff, avengers and others to take him down so although I love Sabertooth, the fight would go to Galactus.:(

newnoiseimage
11-05-2004, 11:15 AM
i think he was being sarcastic by asking you that question. sabretooth isnt even one of the most powerful mutants, for example and telepath and beat him, juggernaut, etc. sabretooth is a mid range villain, he has no super strength, he is basically an angry dude with claws, spider-man is stronger than him.

Goldenage Batman
11-05-2004, 11:21 AM
That doesn't mean he's not dangerous. He sure gives the X-men a run. Wolverine would rather cut off his ear than fight sabertooth. You guys would crap yourselfs if you were to meet him in a dark alleyway. So don't think he's just a big cat because he'll cut ya.

newnoiseimage
11-05-2004, 11:27 AM
see the title of the thread is "who is the most powerfull Marvel Character" not who is dangerous and scary.

and lets not forget that if you ever met a comic book character in an alley, your last problem would be if the character is dangerous or not.

Goldenage Batman
11-05-2004, 11:35 AM
Well I said rogue but evryone was like "Who cares about rogue why did you pick Sabertooth?" But I'm done fighting and I pick the Hulk, or Thor.

Gambit8370
11-05-2004, 11:40 AM
i think he was being sarcastic by asking you that question.

WHO???

ME???

Well I never...

Pink Ranger
11-05-2004, 01:35 PM
I kind of stopped reading comics from 1988-1994 before starting again, but what about the Molecule Man? Immortal, omniscient and can restructure anything, without any "cosmic limitations" that guys like Eternity and Galactus have.

Anubis
11-05-2004, 01:37 PM
The Living Tribunal aka God.

DBM
11-05-2004, 01:39 PM
The Living Tribunal aka God.

I don't think the LT is God, he just works for God. Kinda like the Spectre.

Guyverjay
11-05-2004, 01:40 PM
I don't think the LT is God, he just works for God. Kinda like the Spectre.

Yeah except a helluva lot more powerful:up:

Anubis
11-05-2004, 01:41 PM
I always thought he was the closest thing to god in the MU. Though you may be right.

DBM
11-05-2004, 01:42 PM
Yeah except a helluva lot more powerful:up:

I don't know about that. The Spectre can be pretty powerful on occasions.

Guyverjay
11-05-2004, 01:43 PM
Yeah on occasions and on other occasions he gets telepathically probed by J'onn, stuck in a planet, beat up by Parallax and held up by Dr fate:up:

DBM
11-05-2004, 01:45 PM
Yeah on occasions and on other occasions he gets telepathically probed by J'onn, stuck in a planet, beat up by Parallax and held up by Dr fate:up:

Well, there is that. :D

jbone55
11-05-2004, 02:44 PM
Didn't Wizard have Silver Surfer #1 with like Thor and Superman 2 and 3? Professor X was like 10 and Galactus and Hulk were in the list.

Doc Destruction
11-05-2004, 02:50 PM
Eternity is the UNIVERSE. Death is DEATH, Lol...I think they win.

I. B. Abadman
11-05-2004, 03:16 PM
i think that the most powerfull Character would be Apocalypse because we was the first mutant anyone think i am wrong please tell me who is the most powerfull mutant in marvel character. thanks.
define character.

4 example,.. the weakest celestial can whoop one on one ANY marvel hero I'm aware of.

Lightning Strykez!
11-05-2004, 03:24 PM
There was an official list published by Marvel last year sometime that listed the most powerful mutants. I do recall some of those listed in the top 10, but I don't remember the exact placing. But Xavier, Phoenix, Apocalypse, Storm and Magneto were there. I think Phoenix was 5 and Storm was No. 6 or reversed. I remember because I was thinking, hmmm, the only two females in the top 10 are back-to-back and yet neither is in the top four? I don't see how Magneto could possibly be more powerful than either woman, since Jean and Storm are classified as "elementals" (beta-class?).

But whatever.

stiltman
11-05-2004, 04:50 PM
Sabertooth? Wasn't he Iron Fist's punching bag for a number of years? He's the type of character that would give Daredevil or Wolverine or maybe Captain America a run for their money, but not Marvel heayweights like the Hulk or Thing or Silver Surfer or Thor.

Most powerful? Depends on where your setting your limits, I guess. Go with the likes of Galactus or the Celestials or one of those crazy cosmic types.

VICTORVONDOOMX
11-05-2004, 06:30 PM
In a Multi-verse where knowledge is power, Thanos, Reed & Doom must always be considered. Each, on occaision has thwarted even the Cosmic Powers mentioned here.

fifthfiend
11-05-2004, 06:58 PM
Don't think he's been mentioned yet, but Onslaught was pretty bloody powerful -- heck, he was pretty much all of the most powerful mutants rolled into one, after all.

Proteus was pretty bad-ass, I mean, warping reality at will'll put you pretty high up there.

X
11-05-2004, 08:01 PM
Sabertooth wouldn't be afraid to fight him, it's just that he'd be smart enough to avoid him. But if they did fight I'd say Galactus i mean it took the ff, avengers and others to take him down so although I love Sabertooth, the fight would go to Galactus.:(

The same Sabertooth that was made to scream like a ***** by The Shiver Man?

X
11-05-2004, 08:07 PM
Yeah on occasions and on other occasions he gets telepathically probed by J'onn, stuck in a planet, beat up by Parallax and held up by Dr fate:up:

An old scene from Alan Moore's Swamp Thing that comes to mind... The Phantom Stranger and Swamp Thing where in front of this brilliance, like a sun. Slowly, it started getting smaller, still dwarfing them but they could slowly see the whole picture. It was on of The Spectre's eyes.

Don"t forget his fight with the multi universe destroying Anti Monitor among other feats, he almost stalemated him. And, it was said, if The Spectres head was in the right place, The Crisis could of been nipped in the bud.

demento
11-05-2004, 09:12 PM
I have an old Rogue action figure from X-Men animated where she had on too much rouge.

You put make-up on your action figures? That's just... adorable.

Thanos
11-05-2004, 09:21 PM
Powerful is a subjective term. Many would say that Batman is the most powerful DC character because of his intelligence, many would say Superman is the most powerful DC character because of his super-powers.

To me, the most powerful Mutant in Marvel is Thanos. Because of his super-powers and intelligence.

Franklin Richards
11-05-2004, 09:30 PM
Franklin Richards created an entire universe that contained duplicates of most of the people mentioned above, including Galactus. When that boy has the power switched on, he is awesome. He made Mephisto go away with a few words and a blast outta his eyes. "Go away, Badman!"

Franklin is like his own Infinity Gem. Specifically the Reality Gem, but with the mind of a child. Which is good and bad, I think.

I like that fact that when he grew up in a few alternate timelines, he hooked up with Rachael. The child of Scott Summers and Jean Grey. Those two made a great pair. Reality Warping meets the Phoenix Force. OWCH!

Somethin' about a mutant born of Cosmic Ray Mutates. They are tough.


:thing: :doom: :thing:

X
11-05-2004, 09:32 PM
I was under the belief he created a mini-universe...

And full power Galactus would beat Franklin in my opinion. He's had fights that have destroyed entire realities, he's come back from near death and then effortlessy shuffled around galaxies. Billions of years of experience don't hurt either.

Morg
11-05-2004, 09:46 PM
Eternity is the UNIVERSE. Death is DEATH, Lol...I think they win.


Not when Thanos had those gems, he beat both of them.

VICTORVONDOOMX
11-05-2004, 10:58 PM
Let's start a chant...THANOS...THANOS...THANOS...


Robber:So, which one is your wallet, Mr. Thanos?
Thanos: The one that says Bad Mother -shut yo' mouf-

Johnny Blaze
11-05-2004, 11:18 PM
So who would win in a Sabertooth Vs. Galactus fight in your opinion? Heh, I can see it now...it'd be just like the old school Monty Python show with the giant foot coming down from the heavens. :D

And on topic, baring any cosmic deities and the like, I'd have to put my money on Thanos or the Fury. Both are extremely powerful and very resourceful characters who can go toe-to-toe with, and beat, damn near anyone. :up:

X
11-06-2004, 09:54 AM
Meh, The Surfer is just as powerful as Thanos. He beat him, no powers, in a magical dimension. He beat two Thanos constructs on Titan that Thanos made when he had The Infinity Gauntlet... He took a beating from a pissed off Thanos with the IG... He wasn't trying to kill him, of course, but still. Thanos is simply always going almost all out, The Surfer, not so much. Don't forget The Gamora/Thanos fight... :D

And Thanos with a cosmic cube was beaten by Spider-Man before... And led away by police in handcuffs. :D :o

batmanyearone
11-06-2004, 11:26 AM
spiderman is the most powerful mutant, alive!! just jk. i would definitly say silver surfer,

Elijya
11-06-2004, 11:32 AM
I really don't know that much about this stuff but what about the phoenix or sabertooth < I think he would go in the most dangerous mutant section wouldn't he? Or magneto, wolverine's got that healing facter so he can keep on going for awhile.But in my own little thoughts I think it's rouge.


::mocks the newbie::

Kirsten-Is-Hot!
11-06-2004, 01:11 PM
I say Thanos, or Galactus,

X
11-06-2004, 02:22 PM
I say Thanos, or Galactus,

Quite the difference between the two, in case you haven't noticed. :o

Elijya
11-06-2004, 02:25 PM
I say Thanos, or Galactus,


Thanos<Galactus<Eternity<Living Tribunal<unnamed/unshown God of the MU

Guyverjay
11-06-2004, 02:27 PM
Brother from Marvel vs DC:p

X
11-06-2004, 02:27 PM
Hah, Thanos has also failed to beat two Elders. Well, he won by using his head but that doesen't make him more powerful by a stretch.

Thor and The Hulk have beaten him as well. Both fights were a bit circumstancial, but still, it was done.

X
11-06-2004, 02:28 PM
Brother from Marvel vs DC:p

Man, that made me want to throw up. They're fighting in a single universe? It looked like it was contained to one galaxy. And these guys are supposed to dwarf the LT and well written Spectre? Those swords should of been cutting through universes, reality should of been going crazy everywhere. The Molecule Man vs. Kubik or whoever had more reprasuccsions. :mad:

Guyverjay
11-06-2004, 02:31 PM
Hah, Thanos has also failed to beat two Elders. Well, he won by using his head but that doesen't make him more powerful by a stretch.

Thor and The Hulk have beaten him as well. Both fights were a bit circumstancial, but still, it was done.


Thnaos couldn't even beat Walker:D

X
11-06-2004, 02:33 PM
Well, Walker wasn't a pushover, to say the least. He needs to be used more. :up:

Wait, don't forget Thanos's "power ups". He said himself in his own series he had become more powerful. That's like what, the 10th time this has happened? I don't buy into that ****. He was capable of being killed by Rigellian tech in his own series, Galactus still almost killed him, and he was left almost dead by that cosmic cube chick.

Guyverjay
11-06-2004, 02:38 PM
Thanos got beaten by Quoi as well. What ever happened to him?

X
11-06-2004, 02:42 PM
Magus kicked the crap out of him too.

Quoi, I'm not sure what ever happened with him. I don't think too much was done with him beyond Celestial Quest.

Kmack
11-07-2004, 09:15 AM
This lady right here;)
http://www.dreamers.com/thedarkphoenixsaga/galeria/postales/postal16.jpg

X
11-07-2004, 11:35 AM
This lady right here;)
http://www.dreamers.com/thedarkphoenixsaga/galeria/postales/postal16.jpg

The one Galactus has managed to beat, and Firelords been able to go toe to toe with, right?

Horrible picture, by the way.

Strange
11-07-2004, 05:18 PM
Thanos is very powerful and he cannot die. Although there are people more powerful than him he is also very resourceful and would never head into a fight without some advantage on his side. He can and has been beat but he will always come back and keep fighting.

Elijya
11-07-2004, 07:07 PM
Thanos is very powerful and he cannot die.

and where did it say this?

X
11-07-2004, 07:16 PM
He actually coulden't at one point, he was immortal. Not sure if that still stands though.

Elijya
11-07-2004, 07:27 PM
whoa, WTF? where'd the "Mr." go?

X
11-07-2004, 07:29 PM
It got sick of me and left. :(

Elijya
11-07-2004, 07:31 PM
no, really. I thought the mods vehiemently refused to change anyone's username

ragingdemon155
11-07-2004, 07:47 PM
There are a couple of Very powerful Marvel Characters that come to mind.

Jean Grey/Pheonix
Sue Richards- So freaking underrated, one of the strongest characters in marvel period
Thor
Hulk

and the list can go on and on but for some reason I will just stick with Pheonix.

X
11-07-2004, 08:21 PM
no, really. I thought the mods vehiemently refused to change anyone's username

Well, I'm special.

Unthinkable
11-07-2004, 08:28 PM
Well, I'm special.

So am I. :o

And I'm just gonna throw in Captain Marvel because I'm a Capain Marvel whore.

Strange
11-07-2004, 08:54 PM
and where did it say this?

His love lady Death has refused him so he can never die. It has not changed and is still that way in the comics now.

X
11-07-2004, 09:11 PM
Well, Death was certainly warming up to him in the second Thanos arc...

Strange
11-07-2004, 09:15 PM
Well, Death was certainly warming up to him in the second Thanos arc...

Yeah and she also looked 14, that was kinda nasty. Thanos was looking like a pedophile, but I think she made herself look that way to throw him off.

Superfly
11-07-2004, 09:22 PM
Not too sure about this one. a few come to mind, though:

Thor
Phoenix
Gladiator
Thanos
Captain Marvel (current version)

BTW, if anyone here plays heroclix, you'll want to check out the new stats posted for the new Gladiator heroclix. This guy has the best defense, next to Galactus himself!!!
Here's a link:

http://www.wizkidsgames.com/heroclix/marvel/figuregallery.asp?unitid=6262

Yim
11-07-2004, 09:29 PM
Living Tribunal, without a doubt.

Elijya
11-07-2004, 09:55 PM
Living Tribunal, without a doubt.

why are we even debating this? we all know this is the answer

VICTORVONDOOMX
11-08-2004, 01:36 AM
Well, Death was certainly warming up to him in the second Thanos arc...
I was really left hanging after that. I was LOVING that book, then -poof-...gone.

kakarot
11-08-2004, 04:47 AM
now reading all these replies i have changed my mind and now i think it is between the Living Tribunal and galactus who would win in a fight till death

Hulkzilla
11-08-2004, 05:04 AM
Hulk Is Strongest One Of All!!

VICTORVONDOOMX
11-08-2004, 05:12 AM
now reading all these replies i have changed my mind and now i think it is between the Living Tribunal and galactus who would win in a fight till death
If it was to the death, the Living Tribunal would look into Galactus' heart, see all the soul-searching and suffering he'd gone through since time's re-beginning, then judge himself (itself?) unworthy and de-rez.
But, yeah, I'd go with Living Tribunal as most powerful.

Anubis
11-08-2004, 11:55 AM
The thing that nobody can agree on is who is the most powerful non-cosmic.

Guyverjay
11-08-2004, 11:56 AM
Dr Strange:up:

Elijya
11-08-2004, 01:31 PM
The thing that nobody can agree on is who is the most powerful non-cosmic.


well, what qualifies as cosmic? from outerspce? what about Phoenix?

Guyverjay
11-08-2004, 01:32 PM
Phoenix = cosmic

Elijya
11-08-2004, 01:41 PM
well, what's the criteria? is Gladiator Cosmic?

Guyverjay
11-08-2004, 01:42 PM
Yup

DBM
11-08-2004, 01:44 PM
Yup

Why is Gladiator Cosmic?

He seems like he would just be a reguler (though very powerful) character.

I almays thought "cosmic" characters were the ones who were pretty much forces of nature or aspects of the universe.

Guyverjay
11-08-2004, 01:47 PM
Its a combination of different things to be honest. Things such as where he is from, his powers, the company he keeps and the type of titles he appears in

Anubis
11-08-2004, 01:49 PM
All this stops at the Surfer. Because although he is blessed with the power cosmic, he's still just a dude who had it given to him. Same as the FF only more powerful. Thanos, Adam Warlock, Thor, guys like that qualify as non-cosmic, even though they aren't human. Then you got humans, mutants, etc., also count as non-cosmic. Everybody else, Phoenix, Infinity, Tribunal, even the Champion of the universe, count as cosmic. Basically beings that have survived and will survive the end of the universe.

Guyverjay
11-08-2004, 01:50 PM
So Eternity isn't a cosmic?:confused:

Anubis
11-08-2004, 01:52 PM
You mean because he is the universe and if the universe ends then he dies? yeah, I guess there is a flaw in my reasoning there.

DBM
11-08-2004, 01:53 PM
So Eternity isn't a cosmic?:confused:

I think he's one of those entities that goes beyond cosmic. I mean, he is the universe.

Doobie88
11-08-2004, 02:02 PM
No one mentioned the Beyonder??? I mean the guy is an entire universe of power.

Guyverjay
11-08-2004, 03:34 PM
No one mentioned the Beyonder??? I mean the guy is an entire universe of power.


No he isn't:o

Unthinkable
11-08-2004, 03:51 PM
If we're going with "non" Cosmics (I dunno how you define it) but I see six people that are up there.

1)Dr.Strange
2)Silver Surfer
3)Captain Marvel
4)Thanos
5)Thor
6) Gladiator

Under that class would be:

1)Warlock
2)Most other heralds
3)Prof. X
4) Hulk
5)Sentry

Note that the upper class can be interchanged, as can be the lower, but whatever, that's what I consider.

Guyverjay
11-08-2004, 03:53 PM
Why is sentry number 5??

Franklin Richards
11-08-2004, 03:59 PM
The thing that nobody can agree on is who is the most powerful non-cosmic.

Franklin Richards :up:


:thing: :doom: :thing:

Unthinkable
11-08-2004, 03:59 PM
I said they were in no particular order. Unless you don't want him to be there in the first place. :confused:

Guyverjay
11-08-2004, 04:01 PM
I said they were in no particular order..


Did you?:confused:

Unthinkable
11-08-2004, 04:05 PM
Did you?:confused:

In really bad language, yes. :o

Elijya
11-08-2004, 04:20 PM
I don't understand why gladiator is cosmic being. I mean, he's just an alien, same as superman

Guyverjay
11-08-2004, 04:23 PM
So what is your definition of a cosmic.

Technically LT, Eternity etc are Abstract entities not cosmics imo

X
11-08-2004, 05:29 PM
Dr Strange:up:

I'd say so. He's managed to beat Shuma Gorath (Who's bonded to an entire reality) beat The Mindless Hulk... Dormannu, one way or another more then once, the guy who can actually fight Eternity... He's also beaten Galactus and held him another time.

X
11-08-2004, 06:17 PM
now reading all these replies i have changed my mind and now i think it is between the Living Tribunal and galactus who would win in a fight till death

The Living Tribunal, obviously. Thanos with the IG killed Galactus... The Living Tribunal snapped his fingers and the IG no longer worked.

Unthinkable
11-08-2004, 06:51 PM
I'd say so. He's managed to beat Shuma Gorath (Who's bonded to an entire reality) beat The Mindless Hulk... Dormannu, one way or another more then once, the guy who can actually fight Eternity... He's also beaten Galactus and held him another time.

Dr.Strange himself has said many times that if Dormammu went all out on him, he wouldn't stand a chance. I mean, Strange has to call on him to perform some spells. :D

X
11-08-2004, 07:01 PM
Dr.Strange himself has said many times that if Dormammu went all out on him, he wouldn't stand a chance. I mean, Strange has to call on him to perform some spells. :D

Back in the Strange Tales days maybe, I've read them myself. It came to a stalemate of sorts. Strange was holding his own, he was obviously going to lose, but still. This is also before a number of things happened... Strange fighting in the thousands of years long god war... Him becoming immortal (to age anyhow) and him becoming all around more powerful. Strange actually beat Dormannu without any powers once.

And Strange only called on Dormannu right after he became a sorceror. When he found out who Dormannu was, back in, I don't know, 1964, he stopped doing it.

hulkamania85
11-09-2004, 01:35 PM
Wolverine of course.

Why would he be in every book if he wasn't all powerful? :)

Dartagnon
12-16-2006, 12:22 AM
I'm gonna go ahead and be the one that sais this discussion is absolutely absurd.
First off, because most of these mutants/beings have very, if not most similar powers.

I'll go ahead and throw in my realistic opinion though.

'Cosmic'
Beyonder, preferrably because he can manipulate anything.
Thanos, preferrably because of the manipulation as well as the mind control.
Galactus, preferrably also because of manipulation as well as denying physics and controlling galactic forces.

'Non-Cosmic'
Mr. Sinister, let's see: Superhuman everything, shape-shifting, fast healing, telepathy, telekinesis, immortality, did i miss anything?
Apocolypse, Superhuman everything, invulnerable, manipulating, rearranging things, teleportation, telepathy, telekinesis, immortality, mind transferral.
Toad - Because i had to give an absurd answer, you know.. like spider-man, batman, sabretooth, wolverine, etc.

On a side note, those of you that mentioned things like "oh spider-man defeated thanos, and they took him away in cuffs" or whatever, let's all just remember one thing, its a damn comic book, the good guy wins 90% of the time. Think more realistically, ok? thanks.

herakles
12-16-2006, 02:44 AM
Eternity and Death. The end.

Also Beyonder!

kytrigger
12-16-2006, 03:14 AM
Like many have said LT, and the abstracts are the most powerful. If you aren't counting them, then I would say Photon has a shot at being the most powerful if he uses his powers to the fullest.

torkibe
12-16-2006, 10:09 AM
I'm gonna go ahead and be the one that sais this discussion is absolutely absurd.
First off, because most of these mutants/beings have very, if not most similar powers.

I'll go ahead and throw in my realistic opinion though.

'Cosmic'
Beyonder, preferrably because he can manipulate anything.
Thanos, preferrably because of the manipulation as well as the mind control.
Galactus, preferrably also because of manipulation as well as denying physics and controlling galactic forces.

'Non-Cosmic'
Mr. Sinister, let's see: Superhuman everything, shape-shifting, fast healing, telepathy, telekinesis, immortality, did i miss anything?
Apocolypse, Superhuman everything, invulnerable, manipulating, rearranging things, teleportation, telepathy, telekinesis, immortality, mind transferral.
Toad - Because i had to give an absurd answer, you know.. like spider-man, batman, sabretooth, wolverine, etc.

On a side note, those of you that mentioned things like "oh spider-man defeated thanos, and they took him away in cuffs" or whatever, let's all just remember one thing, its a damn comic book, the good guy wins 90% of the time. Think more realistically, ok? thanks.

I'm gonna go ahead and be the one that tells you that you joined the boards in order to bump a two year old thread about something that has been discussed ad-nauseum in many other threads since.

Next time, read more before you post, ok? Thanks.

3dman27
12-16-2006, 10:41 AM
i'd say the mighty thor

Warhammer
12-16-2006, 11:04 AM
I can't wait for someone to say Hulk.

supermarvelman
12-16-2006, 02:36 PM
I'm gonna go ahead and be the one that tells you that you joined the boards in order to bump a two year old thread about something that has been discussed ad-nauseum in many other threads since.

Next time, read more before you post, ok? Thanks.

Another anal thread enforcer.

supermarvelman
12-16-2006, 02:37 PM
I can't wait for someone to say Hulk.

Well he is one of the most powerful characters, if we are not counting abstract characters amd cosmic-level beings, which say includes Dr. Strange.

Norkie
12-16-2006, 02:59 PM
Another anal thread enforcer.



http://www.alexanderpringwilson.org/images/emoticons/rofl2.gif.

Mr. Smash'n Bash
12-16-2006, 05:35 PM
Sinister!

http://thegeekhouse.com/gallery/d/30-2/owned-xavier.jpg

Norkie
12-17-2006, 05:32 AM
Sinister!

http://thegeekhouse.com/gallery/d/30-2/owned-xavier.jpg

Oh and than kyou for making me question my humantity by laughing at a cripple being thrown down the stairs thanks you just hand delivered me straight to hell.

BAH HUMBBUG!
12-19-2006, 04:47 AM
http://www.toonopedia.com/imposman.jpg
DUH!!

3dman27
12-19-2006, 06:20 AM
http://www.toonopedia.com/imposman.jpg
DUH!!
LOL

BAH HUMBBUG!
12-19-2006, 03:15 PM
LOL

I found it appropiate in such a repetative thread :D :up:

LivingTribunal
12-27-2006, 11:09 PM
i think that the most powerfull Character would be Apocalypse because we was the first mutant anyone think i am wrong please tell me who is the most powerfull mutant in marvel character. thanks.

The Living Tribunal is the most powerful being
Franklin Richards or Hyperstorm for mutants

BAH HUMBBUG!
12-27-2006, 11:13 PM
Yes, we all know this. It has been long since established.

I believe the question is directed more towards other non cosmic beings.

Mr_Ant
01-04-2007, 06:47 AM
Apocalypse is hardly the most powerful mutant. Frankie Richard is probably one of most powerful(at full strength) mutant, most powerful Marvel character?
celestials, living tribunal, galactus, watchers, thanos. are a few of the heavy weights :)

According to SHIELD and Tony Stark, The Sentry has no weaknesses by which he can be killed. In other words, there is nothing that can kill him. Nothing. On top of that his strength easily rivals that of the strongest Marvel heroes such as Thor and the Hulk, he has telepathy,he is photokinetic, and he can fly. There is no doubt he is the most powerful figure in Marvel Comics.
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Sentry_(Robert_Reynolds)

http://www.marvel.com/universe/Sentry_(Robert_Reynolds)

And Marvel itself has declared the Sentry to be the most powerful superhero in the Marvel Universe:
http://www.marvel.com/news/all.47

BAH HUMBBUG!
01-12-2007, 07:45 PM
According to SHIELD and Tony Stark, The Sentry has no weaknesses by which he can be killed. In other words, there is nothing that can kill him. Nothing. On top of that his strength easily rivals that of the strongest Marvel heroes such as Thor and the Hulk, he has telepathy,he is photokinetic, and he can fly. There is no doubt he is the most powerful figure in Marvel Comics.
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Sentry_(Robert_Reynolds (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Sentry_%28Robert_Reynolds))

http://www.marvel.com/universe/Sentry_(Robert_Reynolds (http://www.marvel.com/universe/Sentry_%28Robert_Reynolds))

And Marvel itself has declared the Sentry to be the most powerful superhero in the Marvel Universe:
http://www.marvel.com/news/all.47


Wrong, The LT would disintergrate him with less effort than it takes you to fart. Not to mention there are several non cosmic Marvel characters that could handle him or give him a run for his money, he has been shown to be very inconsistent so far. Not to mention that Nick Fury hardly has the entire universe of powerful beings on catalog.

Mistress Gluon
01-12-2007, 07:46 PM
Wrong, The LT would disintergrate him with less effort than it takes you to fart. Not to mention there are several non cosmic Marvel characters that could handle him or give him a run for his money, he has been shown to be very inconsistent so far. Not to mention that Nick Fury hardly has the entire universe of powerful beings on catalog.


Hmmm.... No. But I've explained why more than fifteen times.

Silicon Surfer
01-12-2007, 09:35 PM
There was an apparently ordinary guy that appeared in an issue of FF who had so much dormant power that it was necessary for the Watcher to exile him outside of time and space to prevent him from accidentally destroying the universe. The guy agreed to it for the sake of everyone else.

XSpidercideX
01-13-2007, 01:06 AM
People, The Living Tribunal is way beyond Eternity and Death.

Galactus < Eternity/Death < The Living Tribunal < The One Above All

The One Above All (the LT's boss) is the most powerful though.

XSpidercideX
01-13-2007, 01:11 AM
Hmmm.... No. But I've explained why more than fifteen times.

Um, The Living Tribunal could blink and make Sentry to have never existed.

BAH HUMBBUG!
01-13-2007, 02:22 AM
People, The Living Tribunal is way beyond Eternity and Death.

Galactus < Eternity/Death < The Living Tribunal < The One Above All

The One Above All (the LT's boss) is the most powerful though.

Becareful with that xSpidercidex, there is a Celestial by the same name, so make sure you basically say GOD.

BAH HUMBBUG!
01-13-2007, 02:23 AM
Hmmm.... No. But I've explained why more than fifteen times.

Then PLEASE, explain for the 16 time how the Sentry could possibly stand up against The Living Tribunal?

3dman27
01-13-2007, 06:21 AM
bad writing

XSpidercideX
01-13-2007, 03:52 PM
Becareful with that xSpidercidex, there is a Celestial by the same name, so make sure you basically say GOD.

I know about the Celestial by the same name, but I assume everyone knows that I'm talking about The One Above All as the God of the MU, because I put (LT's boss) right next to it. If I was talking about The One Above All as the leader of the Celestials than I would have said something like (the head of the Celestials) right next to it. :oldrazz:

Cyrusbales
01-13-2007, 03:56 PM
The one abvove LT is not scrictly a character as they never directly portray him/her/it, so LT is the strongest. Although I remember an arc where Thanos stood against him with the infinity gauntlet...

comicgeek65000
01-13-2007, 03:56 PM
check out the hulk thread we have been tossing names back anf forth for a few days. its still up in the air.

BAH HUMBBUG!
01-13-2007, 09:06 PM
The one abvove LT is not scrictly a character as they never directly portray him/her/it, so LT is the strongest. Although I remember an arc where Thanos stood against him with the infinity gauntlet...


No Thanos did not stand against the LT with the Infinity Guantlet, it may have been the heart of the Universe. Plus the One Above All, basically God is more powerful than the LT, since the LT has stated before more than once that his power is derived from The One Above All, aka God.

BAH HUMBBUG!
01-13-2007, 09:07 PM
check out the hulk thread we have been tossing names back anf forth for a few days. its still up in the air.

Anyone bring up Magog? (sp) The Champion? The Runner?

Franklin Richards
01-13-2007, 09:15 PM
http://i8.photobucket.com/albums/a21/FranklinRichards/Franklin/FR_ad_sm.jpg


:ff: :ff: :ff:

BAH HUMBBUG!
01-13-2007, 09:31 PM
Yes we saw this already and Sorry he is dwarfed by the LT. Badly.

comicgeek65000
01-13-2007, 09:34 PM
Anyone bring up Magog? (sp) The Champion? The Runner?
i'm not sure the thread is 136 pages long. I have only been reading it for the last 25 pages or so. But probably i think we have been through everyone. Magog is a good call. I have my money on doomsday, galactus, imperiex, and a few other gods/devils

BAH HUMBBUG!
01-13-2007, 09:38 PM
Well hands down there should be no Discussion. It should go

1. The Living Tribunal


10. Eternity/Death/Infinity
11. FULL POWERED GALACTUS/Franklin Richards (PSI LORD) Hyperstorm
12. Celestials
13. Other Cosmic Beings
14. does it matter from here?

comicgeek65000
01-13-2007, 09:44 PM
^ thats why i don't read a lot of cosmic comics. it seems like they have a hard time finding a match.

BAH HUMBBUG!
01-13-2007, 09:49 PM
^ thats why i don't read a lot of cosmic comics. it seems like they have a hard time finding a match.

Well the Cosmics are more beings that appear from time to time in other characters comics. If you haven't read Infinity Guantlet, do so asap. Hands down IMHO the best cosmic/universe spanning Marvel Comic series ever. Of course it makes it even better if you read The Thanos Quest first. :up: :up: :up: :up: :up:

XSpidercideX
01-13-2007, 09:59 PM
Well hands down there should be no Discussion. It should go

1. The Living Tribunal


10. Eternity/Death/Infinity
11. FULL POWERED GALACTUS/Franklin Richards (PSI LORD) Hyperstorm
12. Celestials
13. Other Cosmic Beings
14. does it matter from here?

What about the Infinites? Would they be more powerful than the Celestials and/or Galactus?

http://www.knightmare6.com/faq/cosmic_entities_marvel/infinites.html

The Infinites are gigantic omniversal entities that rearrange realities to make them more stable and run smoothly. Think of them as gigantic defrag programs on a multiversal PC or Feng Shui practioners. The average size of an Infinite is a light year tall at least.....

Infinites are usually served by different sized drones that resemble their parent, and the drones come in waves. The first wave is human-size beings standing about six to seven feet tall, but each wave afterwards they begin to grow and grow. The drones perform different functions, from eliminating any opposition to shifting around planetary bodies within the reality.


It seems like it because they are about a light year tall....:wow:

BAH HUMBBUG!
01-13-2007, 10:09 PM
What about the Infinites? Would they be more powerful than the Celestials and/or Galactus?

http://www.knightmare6.com/faq/cosmic_entities_marvel/infinites.html

The Infinites are gigantic omniversal entities that rearrange realities to make them more stable and run smoothly. Think of them as gigantic defrag programs on a multiversal PC or Feng Shui practioners. The average size of an Infinite is a light year tall at least.....

Infinites are usually served by different sized drones that resemble their parent, and the drones come in waves. The first wave is human-size beings standing about six to seven feet tall, but each wave afterwards they begin to grow and grow. The drones perform different functions, from eliminating any opposition to shifting around planetary bodies within the reality.


It seems like it because they are about a light year tall....:wow:

Yeah...before you even posted this I was thinking about this. Pretty much any character, Marvel wants to create or designate as the MOST POWERFUL. I hadn't heard of those guys, so yeah I guess so.

XSpidercideX
01-13-2007, 10:19 PM
Yeah it looks like the Infinites are close to the LT in power since their jobs are to rearrange realities among the multiverse. I don't think their authority is as high as the LT, bc apparently NO ONE can defy his decrees except for TOAA. So that would put the LT above them, I believe, on the cosmic scale.

Mistress Gluon
01-15-2007, 10:23 AM
Well hands down there should be no Discussion. It should go

1. The Living Tribunal


10. Eternity/Death/Infinity
11. FULL POWERED GALACTUS/Franklin Richards (PSI LORD) Hyperstorm
12. Celestials
13. Other Cosmic Beings
14. does it matter from here?


Actually, a full powered Galactus would be on par with Eternity (at least, that's what Eternity says). And Franklin Richard's power seems to extend past the others in it's higher, still undeveloped, regions. I'd also say he'd be on par if, and only if, we're talking about the universe creating eschelon of his powers.

Warhammer
01-15-2007, 10:25 AM
This is too hard. :csad:

LivingTribunal
01-15-2007, 01:20 PM
The Living Tribunal is the most powerful being
Franklin Richards or Hyperstorm for mutants


truelivingtribunal is greater than the heart of the infinite:cwink:

Cyrusbales
01-15-2007, 02:49 PM
franklin richards is depowered now, so we can exclude him I guess, if he can burn out his powers like that, when the others can't, that means the others are better I feel.

Mistress Gluon
01-15-2007, 05:27 PM
He's been depowered before. And like I said, his current upper eschelon of powers still makes him more powerful. We're just asking about who's more powerful, not who's more capable.

BAH HUMBBUG!
01-16-2007, 07:37 PM
Actually, a full powered Galactus would be on par with Eternity (at least, that's what Eternity says). And Franklin Richard's power seems to extend past the others in it's higher, still undeveloped, regions. I'd also say he'd be on par if, and only if, we're talking about the universe creating eschelon of his powers.

Yeah but just because Eternity says that doesn't mean it's true. If you think about it logically (which shouldn't be applied to comics ever), but if you do just for fun. Everything in the universe with the exception is part of Eternity, so therefore so is Galactus, which means even at full might he still would have a hard time being on par with Eternity.

But it is just comics. Still haven't heard you explain for the 16 time why Sentry is the most powerful?