Animals Are Not Ours To Wear

[Knightsaber Priss]

seriously, its like i enjoy torturing myself...i know i wont be able to sleep..but i continue watching.

I watched a special on Jack the Ripper where they actually were showing pictures of the victims and I couldn't sleep without a light on for days.

[Holly Goodhead]

i had to leave my light on 2 nights ago :(

[TheAlmightyFuzz]

TLC shows those whole 2 hour thingies about 1 haunting, that stuff is freaky.

[Mr. Edward Hyde]

I watched a special on Jack the Ripper where they actually were showing pictures of the victims and I couldn't sleep without a light on for days.
Those pictures aren't even that bad.

[Holly Goodhead]

when i was little i didnt sleep for about a week after i watched the movie The Gate with little stephen dourff?

[Mr. Edward Hyde]

when i was little i didnt sleep for about a week after i watched the movie The Gate with little stephen dourff?
That movie was the shiznite. I saw it when I was like...five and I was scared that whenever I dropped something it would turn into fifty little demons and run off.

[TheAlmightyFuzz]

I was watching Wishmaster 2 yesterday and noticed that the dude the plays the devil is 5000x creepier in human form than in demon form. http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v355/luckytrix/Wishmaster2.jpg He kept smiling but had weird teeth, a jacked up voice, and skin like edward james olmos.

[bluejake01]

Please start skinning people? Please? C'mon...the little fuzzy bunnies demand vengence...

[Mr. Edward Hyde]

I was watching Wishmaster 2 yesterday and noticed that the dude the plays the devil is 5000x creepier in human form than in demon form. http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v355/luckytrix/Wishmaster2.jpg He kept smiling but had weird teeth, a jacked up voice, and skin like edward james olmos.
He doesn't look scary at all. I thought you were a hard core mutha ****a that wasn't scared of anything.

[Knightsaber Priss]

Those pictures aren't even that bad.

Well, since, how shall I say it, I do not have a predilection towards authentic, real life violence and dead people, (Nor do I like gory horror movies all that much either.) it is kind of shocking for me to see people with slit throats, slashed up faces and all around hacked to pieces bodies. I'm of course referring to Jack the Ripper's last victim.

[Holly Goodhead]

He doesn't look scary at all. I thought you were a hard core mutha ****a that wasn't scared of anything.
http://www.latenightgames.com/labynight/gallery/talhu/wish96.jpg

[TheAlmightyFuzz]

He doesn't look scary at all. I thought you were a hard core mutha ****a that wasn't scared of anything.
that's the only picture I could find of him, watch the movie, the ****er is creepy as all hell

[Mr. Edward Hyde]

Well, since, how shall I say it, I do not have a predilection towards authentic, real life violence and dead people, (Nor do I like gory horror movies all that much either.) it is kind of shocking for me to see people with slit throats, slashed up faces and all around hacked to pieces bodies. I'm of course referring to Jack the Ripper's last victim.
Yeah, that poor hooker was everywhere.

[lovesteppenwolf]

Of course wearing animals are wrong, you surpose to eat them!:up: :up: :D

[Elijya]

I thought the dude in Wishmaster was a Djinn, or Genie, not the devil

[Mr. Edward Hyde]

that's the only picture I could find of him, watch the movie, the ****er is creepy as all hell
But I don't wanna.

[Elijya]

I watched a special on Jack the Ripper where they actually were showing pictures of the victims and I couldn't sleep without a light on for days.
try watching an HBO Autopsy special :up:

[lovesteppenwolf]

"With so many wonderful alternatives to wool, fur, and leather, there's simply no need to use animal skins to cover your own skin. For every wool sweater, leather belt or jacket, or bit of fur trim, animals are tortured and mutilated in ways that would make any compassionate person's skin crawl. Sheep, cows, foxes, rabbits, minks, and other animals used for their fleece, fur, or skins feel pain and suffer just like the dogs and cats in our own homes, yet chunks of their flesh are hacked off, they are electrocuted, their necks are snapped, and their throats are slit open, often without any painkillers. Join kind people everywhere and shed your skins-wear only compassionate, animal-free clothing." - PETA

Wearing animal fur is disgusting. :( Here's some more gross information: http://www.furisdead.com/animals.html

I didn't want to post any pictures because they're nauseating.


:)


you have your opinion and i have mine.i will not try to kill you or get you banned but i DO hate you :down :mad: :down :mad:

[Holly Goodhead]

you have your opinion and i have mine.i will not try to kill you or get you banned but i DO hate you :down :mad: :down :mad:

omg i almost cared.:rolleyes:

[lovesteppenwolf]

up yours

[TheAlmightyFuzz]

I thought the dude in Wishmaster was a Djinn, or Genie, not the devil
he is but he always talks about hell, sooooo annoying

I think he creeps me out more when he smiles
http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v355/luckytrix/wish2-57.jpg http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v355/luckytrix/wish2-47.jpghttp://img.photobucket.com/albums/v355/luckytrix/wish2-36.jpghttp://img.photobucket.com/albums/v355/luckytrix/wish2-31.jpg

[Oakley]

I never wear fur, but I love me some leather.

ditto

[Electrix]

Animal cruelty is wrong! :mad:

[Arkady Rossovich]

Animals are equal or more important than humans themselfs.For animals were around before modern humans,they shall be around after humans are extint.

[Exabyte]

I think killing an animal to wear is only "right" when you are like a mountain man and you do it for cloths and warmth, but how many accually use it for that reason is none. Wearing them for looks etc is horrible.

[Flexo]

Animals are equal or more important than humans themselfs.For animals were around before modern humans,they shall be around after humans are extint.

How does that possibly make them more important than us? So what, they've been around longer. Does that mean sharks are more important than most other things? :rolleyes:

[TheAlmightyFuzz]

How does that possibly make them more important than us? So what, they've been around longer. Does that mean sharks are more important than most other things? :rolleyes:
No! Roaches and horseshoe crabs are.

[bluejake01]

How does that possibly make them more important than us? So what, they've been around longer. Does that mean sharks are more important than most other things? :rolleyes:

Not to mention the fact that we ARE animals.

[taskmaster]

If they want to live they can defend themselves. Now I'm going to bite into this steak while wearing a leather jacket.

[Holly Goodhead]

Animals are equal or more important than humans themselfs.For animals were around before modern humans,they shall be around after humans are extint.

lets be friends

[Flexo]

No! Roaches and horseshoe crabs are.

Ah, silly me. :D

[C. Lee]

he is but he always talks about hell, sooooo annoying

I think he creeps me out more when he smiles
http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v355/luckytrix/wish2-57.jpg http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v355/luckytrix/wish2-47.jpghttp://img.photobucket.com/albums/v355/luckytrix/wish2-36.jpghttp://img.photobucket.com/albums/v355/luckytrix/wish2-31.jpg
That's Andrew Divoff http://www.imdb.com/name/nm0228678/ ....he's good at playing the bad guy...but he's actually real intelligent, he speaks 9 different languages.
















........and he eats small furry critters raw.

[Holly Goodhead]

9?!

[TheAlmightyFuzz]

That's Andrew Divoff http://www.imdb.com/name/nm0228678/ ....he's good at playing the bad guy...but he's actually real intelligent, he speaks 9 different languages.
















........and he eats small furry critters raw.
funny, I was looking at that earlier today

[C. Lee]

9?!
Yep. I've read articles on him before....he speaks and writes about 9 languages (the IMDB site says 9...I thought I read somewhere else 10).

[Holly Goodhead]

theres not even 9 languages :rolleyes: you cant fool me

[TheAlmightyFuzz]

Who the hell speaks Catalan, I mean really?

My uncle speaks several languages, one of which is Swahili. I find myself wondering why.

[C. Lee]

Reads, writes and speaks 9 languages: English, Spanish, Italian, French, German, Romanian, Catalan, Portugese and Russian.

[C. Lee]

Who the hell speaks Catalan, I mean really?

My uncle speaks several languages, one of which is Swahili. I find myself wondering why.
Is that any worse than people who can speak Klingon?

[Alexia Dark]

He was on Highlander :up:.

Although, I hated that first ep. Garbage skewers? I mean, really :(.

[C. Lee]

He was on Highlander :up:.

Although, I hated that ep. Garbage skewers? I mean, really :(.
But he got to kill Wil Wheaton in "Toy Soldiers". :)

[TheAlmightyFuzz]

Is that any worse than people who can speak Klingon?No, that's worse but I'm not going to go out and learn Sanskrit or something. I was listening to some Swahili tapes in my uncle's car and I remember a lot of it...what I'm I going to use that for?:(

[Holly Goodhead]

i speak 37 languages

[C. Lee]

i speak 37 languages
One for each personality? :)

[Mr. Smash'n Bash]

i go to an art college, were twins!


Which one? :confused:

[TheAlmightyFuzz]

Which one? :confused:
she means "liberal arts college" :o

[Mr. Smash'n Bash]

she means "liberal arts college" :o


Oh .. :o

[Oakley]

I think killing an animal to wear is only "right" when you are like a mountain man and you do it for cloths and warmth, but how many accually use it for that reason is none. Wearing them for looks etc is horrible.

I'm assuming you don't wear sneakers?

[The Riddler]

animals are ours to eat, not wear. :up:

[Batty for Bats!]

Might aswell make that dead corpse's skin into a nice leather jacket, other wise, it would be wasteful.

[Cyclops]

32 pages dedicated to mind-numbing PETA drivel?

WHAT'S WRONG WITH YOU PEOPLE?!

[The Riddler]

Might aswell make that dead corpse's skin into a nice leather jacket, other wise, it would be wasteful.
yeah, why not?

[Holly Goodhead]

Which one? :confused:

columbia college chicago

[Holly Goodhead]

32 pages dedicated to mind-numbing PETA drivel?

WHAT'S WRONG WITH YOU PEOPLE?!

when you get mad cow disease dont come *****ing.:o

[Mister Sinister]

Have you seen what a sheep looks like with unsheared wool, it's hilarious.

[Holly Goodhead]

Have you seen what a sheep looks like with unsheared wool, it's hilarious.

yeah real funny. :rolleyes:

"In Australia, the most commonly raised sheep are Merinos, specifically bred to have wrinkly skin, which means more wool per animal. This unnatural overload of wool causes animals to die of heat exhaustion during hot months, and the wrinkles also collect urine and moisture. Attracted to the moisture, flies lay eggs in the folds of skin, and the hatched maggots can eat the sheep alive. To prevent “flystrike,” Australian ranchers perform a barbaric operation—mulesing—or carving huge strips of flesh off the backs of unanesthetized lambs’ legs and around their tails. This is done to cause smooth, scarred skin that won’t harbor fly eggs, yet the bloody wounds often get flystrike before they heal.3

Within weeks of birth, lambs’ ears are hole-punched, their tails are chopped off, and the males are castrated without anesthetics. Male lambs are castrated when between 2 and 8 weeks old, with a rubber ring used to cut off blood supply—one of the most painful methods of castration possible.4 Every year, hundreds of lambs die before the age of 8 weeks from exposure or starvation, and mature sheep die every year from disease, lack of shelter, and neglect.5 Faced with so much death and disease, the rational solution would be to reduce the number of sheep so as to maintain them decently. Instead, sheep are bred to bear more lambs to offset the deaths."

thats so silly, want to see a picture of mulesing? its hilarious. :o ugh

[Mister Sinister]

I'm saying that shearing sheep is harmless if done right and humanely and in many ways, they need it.

[The Riddler]

ugh.

all this talk is making me hungry.

[Holly Goodhead]

i really want to post pics but theyre too disturbing.

[The Riddler]

i never quite understood why one would like to wear the skin of another animal.

fetish?

[Mister Sinister]

Fine.

Take this guy...

http://www.madraff.co.uk/shrek-the-sheep.jpg

Shrek the Sheep, found after only a month and he looked like this.

Now tell me that he shouldn't be sheared.

[Holly Goodhead]

i have to stop looking at these pictures or ill start crying. :( especially the puppies :o

[Holly Goodhead]

Fine.

Take this guy...

http://www.madraff.co.uk/shrek-the-sheep.jpg

Shrek the Sheep, found after only a month and he looked like this.

Now tell me that he shouldn't be sheared.

aw! :) he makes me happy

[bluejake01]

yeah real funny. :rolleyes:

"In Australia, the most commonly raised sheep are Merinos, specifically bred to have wrinkly skin, which means more wool per animal. This unnatural overload of wool causes animals to die of heat exhaustion during hot months, and the wrinkles also collect urine and moisture. Attracted to the moisture, flies lay eggs in the folds of skin, and the hatched maggots can eat the sheep alive. To prevent “flystrike,” Australian ranchers perform a barbaric operation—mulesing—or carving huge strips of flesh off the backs of unanesthetized lambs’ legs and around their tails. This is done to cause smooth, scarred skin that won’t harbor fly eggs, yet the bloody wounds often get flystrike before they heal.3

Within weeks of birth, lambs’ ears are hole-punched, their tails are chopped off, and the males are castrated without anesthetics. Male lambs are castrated when between 2 and 8 weeks old, with a rubber ring used to cut off blood supply—one of the most painful methods of castration possible.4 Every year, hundreds of lambs die before the age of 8 weeks from exposure or starvation, and mature sheep die every year from disease, lack of shelter, and neglect.5 Faced with so much death and disease, the rational solution would be to reduce the number of sheep so as to maintain them decently. Instead, sheep are bred to bear more lambs to offset the deaths."

thats so silly, want to see a picture of mulesing? its hilarious. :o ugh


SO if the problem is in Australia, why are you *****ing here? Run off to the land down under and do something about it...

[Electrix]

Animals are not ours full stop!

[Riggs15382]

if you what guys are saying is true. I guess they arent ours to eat either. how about that?

[Holly Goodhead]

SO if the problem is in Australia, why are you *****ing here? Run off to the land down under and do something about it...

id rather get an education first.

[TheSumOfGod]

I once saw sheep being castrated in Australia on tv. The herders, I s**t you not, rip the sheep's balls off with their bloody freakin' TEETH! Bloody hell!

[taskmaster]

thats the most hilarious thing I have ever heard

[Riggs15382]

Wtf!?!?!?!?!!@#$%^&*()+_)(*&^@!?!?!>?!?!

[Holly Goodhead]

I once saw sheep being castrated in Australia on tv. The herders, I s**t you not, rip the sheep's balls off with their bloody freakin' TEETH! Bloody hell!

i hope australia sinks

[War Lord]

Fine.

Take this guy...

http://www.madraff.co.uk/shrek-the-sheep.jpg

Shrek the Sheep, found after only a month and he looked like this.

Now tell me that he shouldn't be sheared.

I'd just keep him in my room and snuggle with him for warmth every night.

[TheSumOfGod]

i hope australia sinks

Now, now, that's where Nicole Kidman came from.

[Holly Goodhead]

i think i hate her..

[Mr. Smash'n Bash]

i hope australia sinks


I personally wish that all PETA members and affiliates would get on a boat and sail to a remote island so we could nuke them into oblivion, but not all wishs can come true. :o

[Holly Goodhead]

I personally wish that all PETA members and affiliates would get on a boat and sail to a remote island so we could nuke them into oblivion, but not all wishs can come true. :o

you need a spanking. :o

[Mr. Smash'n Bash]

you need a spanking. :o


No, I need a nice T-Bone steak, thank god theres one cooking now. :up:

[Holly Goodhead]

i hate you :(

[Corinthian™]

Fun Fact about the cows:

You can actually use everthing.. from skin to brains and bones... even their crap!:o

[Mr. Smash'n Bash]

i hate you :(


I know. :o

[Holly Goodhead]

Fun Fact about the cows:

You can actually use everthing.. from skin to brains and bones... even their crap!:o

ugh, you barbarian :down

[Addendum]

If it wasn't for the cows, obtaining shrooms would be tough. So I'll give them that. But I enjoy their milk and personally enjoy cows cooked medium rare with a twice-baked potato, caramelized apples, and a salad with blue cheese dressing, and some guinness to wash it down.

[Holly Goodhead]

apparently intelligence is a rare luxury here..

[TheAlmightyFuzz]

If it wasn't for the cows, obtaining shrooms would be tough. So I'll them that. But I enjoy their milk and personally enjoy cows cooked medium rare with a twice-baked potato, caramelized apples, and a salad with blue cheese dressing, and some guinness to wash it down.
bleu cheese dressing and guinness? *vomit*

[Holly Goodhead]

im allergic to bleu cheese

[Addendum]

Then don't eat it

[TheAlmightyFuzz]

I'm sick to my stomach just thinking about it, that stuff is rancid.

[Holly Goodhead]

thanks for the stellar advice.

[The Lumberjack]

I don't eat meat unless I'm given pictures of how the animals died. They had to have gone painfully. You can taste their fear and anguish in every juicy bite and that's what makes it oh so sweet.:yellow:

[Holly Goodhead]

I'm sick to my stomach just thinking about it, that stuff is rancid.

im going to switch your shampoo with blue cheese :o

[Holly Goodhead]

I don't eat meat unless I'm given pictures of how the animals died. They had to have gone painfully. You can taste their fear and anguish in every juicy bite and that's what makes it oh so sweet.:yellow:

i think its to the point where everyone comes in this thread just to purposely irritate me.:mad:

[Addendum]

Go right ahead, since it's nothing more than a typical anonymously posted "internet threat"

[The Riddler]

I don't eat meat unless I'm given pictures of how the animals died. They had to have gone painfully. You can taste their fear and anguish in every juicy bite and that's what makes it oh so sweet.:yellow:
haha.

i'd make that my sig but all my sigs have to be involving me. :o

[Holly Goodhead]

Go right ahead, since it's nothing more than a typical anonymously posted "internet threat"

i wasnt even talking to you, chode.

[TheAlmightyFuzz]

im going to switch your shampoo with blue cheese :o
I'm gonna vomit on your face.

[Holly Goodhead]

I'm gonna vomit on your face.

that turns me on

[TheAlmightyFuzz]

that turns me onyea, I know what ya like

there's probably going to be a sonic boom tonight :(

[Holly Goodhead]

should i wear a helmet?

[The Lumberjack]

haha.

i'd make that my sig but all my sigs have to be involving me. :o
Is this better:
I don't eat The Riddler's meat unless I'm given pictures of how it died. It had to have gone painfully. You can taste the fear and anguish in every juicy bite and that's what makes it oh so sweet.:yellow:

[TheAlmightyFuzz]

should i wear a helmet?yes, who the hell ever heard of landing a shuttle at 4:45am?

[Holly Goodhead]

wait..i thought they were landing it tomorrow night?

[Wilhelm-Scream]

i think its to the point where everyone comes in this thread just to purposely irritate me.:mad:That's because you suffer from a pathological and unfounded egocentricity and narcissism, with a dash of paranoia and a quart of delusional elitism thrown in. :(
Believe me, outside of these boards, "Toven" only sounds like a Swedish word for fungal infection. :(

[Holly Goodhead]

That's because you suffer from a pathological and unfounded egocentricity and narcissism, with a dash of paranoia and a quart of delusional elitism thrown in. :(
Believe me, outside of these boards, "Toven" only sounds like a Swedish word for fungal infection. :(

why are you talking to me?

[The Riddler]

Is this better:
my meat?! :eek:

[TheAlmightyFuzz]

wait..i thought they were landing it tomorrow night?
pay attention

[Addendum]

Well, if the shuttle breaks up again and a piece lands on the balcony of my apartment, then I finally have something to put up on my mantle

[Holly Goodhead]

pay attention

its landing tonight?

[TheAlmightyFuzz]

its landing tonight?
tommorow morning, 4 something am, in your driveway

[Holly Goodhead]

in your ass..

[The Lumberjack]

my meat?! :eek:
:ghost: BLEH!!! :ghost:

[TheAlmightyFuzz]

you're not as big as you think you are :rolleyes:

[Holly Goodhead]

you're not as big as you think you are :rolleyes:

you would know, ****ty mc**** ****

[TheAlmightyFuzz]

you're not as good at the one thing as you think you are either.

that's right, you're a terrible bowler

[Holly Goodhead]

dont tell everyone!!

[TheAlmightyFuzz]

I'm going to tell everyone I can.

You deserve it after that awful thing you did to me.

I can't believe you turned off the alarm so I'd be late. :mad:

[Holly Goodhead]

lets call boys and hang up, haha.

[TheAlmightyFuzz]

ok, I'll call some people over and we can have a pillow fight and tell ghost stories, and the I can kick someone in the kneecap

[Holly Goodhead]

and then we can feel my moms new boob job.

[Winter Spleen]

http://img265.imageshack.us/img265/3800/brandowned2uo.png

...

[TheAlmightyFuzz]

and then we can feel my moms new boob job.I don't like your mom, last time I came over, I sat down, she bit me and then ran down to the basement.

[Holly Goodhead]

like mother like daughter..:(

[TheAlmightyFuzz]

your mom's a frickin vampire, and not the good kind

[bluejake01]

apparently intelligence is a rare luxury here..

What, pray tell does eating meat have to do with intelligence? I think it's a lack of intelligence that drives people to deny the food chain and the way of nature.

[TheAlmightyFuzz]

instinct isn't really intelligence

[Holly Goodhead]

What, prey tell does eating meat have to do with intelligence? I think it's a lack of intelligence that drives people to deny the food chain and the way of nature.

ok bye:confused:

[Winter Spleen]

What, prey tell does eating meat have to do with intelligence? I think it's a lack of intelligence that drives people to deny the food chain and the way of nature.

Nature told me to take a piss about 30 minutes ago, and I did.

I'm such a friggin' genius. :o

[The Riddler]

:ghost: BLEH!!! :ghost:
i sort of consider you a friend, but you eating my meat is going way to far. :down

[bluejake01]

instinct isn't really intelligence

There is NOTHING instinctual about raising livestock for consumption. That is what sets man apart. Butchering, preparing and cooking, also not instinct. I am a pagan and can't stand the way livestock is treated for mass consumption. Besides being cruel, the meat tastes bad. I also believe when I eat meat I am ingesting that animals suffering, which is why I am sure to buy only free range chicken, and pork or beef raised on small farms, in good conditions, slaughtered humanely. I pray to the father god and mother goddess in thanks for the meat, and thank and bless the animal. I prepare the meat with love, and do my best to give back to the earth when I take from it. There are alternatives to mass production and animals cruelty. I have gone hunting, and when I kill an animal I eat the meat and tan the hide for shoes, belts and clothing. Nothing should be wasted. Practicality makes it impossible for me to hunt my own food often, but I do what I can where I can. What I hate about PETA is the extreme nature of their beliefs and actions.

[bluejake01]

Nature told me to take a piss about 30 minutes ago, and I did.

I'm such a friggin' genius. :o

If there was an award for missing the point you would win by a landslide.

[Holly Goodhead]

There is NOTHING instinctual about raising livestock for consumption. That is what sets man apart. Butchering, preparing and cooking, also not instinct. I am a pagan and can't stand the way livestock is treated for mass consumption. Besides being cruel, the meat tastes bad. I also believe when I eat meat I am ingesting that animals suffering, which is why I am sure to buy only free range chicken, and pork or beef raised on small farms, in good conditions, slaughtered humanely. I pray to the father god and mother goddess in thanks for the meat, and thank and bless the animal. I prepare the meat with love, and do my best to give back to the earth when I take from it. There are alternatives to mass production and animals cruelty. I have gone hunting, and when I kill an animal I eat the meat and tan the hide for shoes, belts and clothing. Nothing should be wasted. Practicality makes it impossible for me to hunt my own food often, but I do what I can where I can. What I hate about PETA is the extreme nature of their beliefs and actions.

i agree with PETA, if people wont listen...then make them listen. :)

[Winter Spleen]

If there was an award for missing the point you would win by a landslide.

::sigh::

I've never won an award before. :(

[Jolie_Desastre]

i hate you lucy :) and i mean that in the most lovable way

[Addendum]

Just like Hitler, Stalin, Mussolini and other totalitarian despots did. PETA....just continuing in a long tradition of hatred for those who have the audacity to think different

[bluejake01]

i agree with PETA, if people wont listen...then make them listen. :)

Listen to what? Propaganda, lies, and terrorism? Who would listen to such drivel? Who are you to judge the whole of the human race?

[Holly Goodhead]

i hate you lucy :) and i mean that in the most lovable way

lets go spray paint old women wearing fur coats.

[The Lumberjack]

i sort of consider you a friend, but you eating my meat is going way to far. :down
I always considered you a brother in arms more than a friend. It's not easy being a true condascending ass-hole and we need to support each other whenever possible.

[Holly Goodhead]

Just like Hitler, Stalin, Mussolini and other totalitarian despots did. PETA....just continuing in a long tradition of hatred for those who have the audacity to think different
yes, correct.

[Jolie_Desastre]

lets go spray paint old women wearing fur coats.

do you want the yellow one or the red one

[Holly Goodhead]

Listen to what? Propaganda, lies, and terrorism? Who would listen to such drivel? Who are you to judge the whole of the human race?
who are YOU to judge the role of animals?

[Holly Goodhead]

do you want the yellow one or the red one

red..duh

[bluejake01]

::sigh::

I've never won an award before. :(

How about an award for never winning an award? But If I give it to you..you would no longer be eligible...damn.

[Addendum]

Bluejake, just give the kid a No-prize

[bluejake01]

who are YOU to judge the role of animals?

The top of the food chain...

now shuffle back to the bottom, the lions are getting hungry.

[bluejake01]

Bluejake, just give the kid a No-prize

Old school Marvel style?

[taskmaster]

who are YOU to judge the role of animals?

Who are YOU to judge the role of animals?

[Holly Goodhead]

The top of the food chain...

now shuffle back to the bottom, the lions are getting hungry.

you need to be mauled by a bear.:up:

[Holly Goodhead]

Who are YOU to judge the role of animals?
im not the one eating their flesh.

[taskmaster]

Who cares if you eat an animal. I don't care how they get to my plate as long as it tastes good. I don't care how they were treated, it's no of my concern. Out of sight and out of mind.

[Winter Spleen]

im not the one eating their flesh.

But it tastes sooo good!

[bluejake01]

you need to be mauled by a bear.:up:

You see, early man had that problem...but then we learned to make tools and weapons, effectively pwning the bears. Now they have nowhere to live and it's sad. We used to fear and respect nature...then we learned to live in harmony with it...then we overcame it and we have been traveling downward ever since. Either way, I have things the bear doesn't...a big ****ing gun, and the sense NOT to piss off a bear. I met a couple of bears in Canada and Montana...communicated with them and came to an understanding.

[Holly Goodhead]

Who cares if you eat an animal. I don't care how they get to my plate as long as it tastes good. I don't care how they were treated, it's no of my concern. Out of sight and out of mind.
nice life :rolleyes: i see you going places:up: like Hell

[Winter Spleen]

nice life :rolleyes: i see you going places:up: like Hell

Nice place to roast a ham.

[taskmaster]

I don't believe in heaven or hell.:up:

[bluejake01]

im not the one eating their flesh.

That's wonderful that you CHOOSE not to...but it's un-natural. BTW...I mentioned that I am a Pagan, and I believe all living things have a life force and spirit...so according to my beliefs eating a plant is just as inhumane as eating an animal...should I threaten you over it?

[Holly Goodhead]

You see, early man had that problem...but then we learned to make tools and weapons, effectively pwning the bears. Now they have nowhere to live and it's sad. We used to fear and respect nature...then we learned to live in harmony with it...then we overcame it and we have been traveling downward ever since. Either way, I have things the bear doesn't...a big ****ing gun, and the sense NOT to piss off a bear. I met a couple of bears in Canada and Montana...communicated with them and came to an understanding.
oh my god..seriously, no matter how much you "pray" to mother goddess or whatever the **** it doesnt make it right, its disgusting. youre hurting living creatures that feel pain just like humans. voiceless victims

[Winter Spleen]

I don't believe in heaven or hell.:up:

Just because you don't believe in it doesn't mean it's not there. :o

[Holly Goodhead]

That's wonderful that you CHOOSE not to...but it's un-natural. BTW...I mentioned that I am a Pagan, and I believe all living things have a life force and spirit...so according to my beliefs eating a plant is just as inhumane as eating an animal...should I threaten you over it?

plants cant feel pain. :rolleyes:

[bluejake01]

nice life :rolleyes: i see you going places:up: like Hell

Well if you mean hell as in the Christian hell, no he won't. The Bible makes it clear we are lord over the plants and animals, they are ours to do with as we wish...That is if you mean the Christian Hell...I personally never bought into that sort of thinking.

[Holly Goodhead]

Well if you mean hell as in the Christian hell, no he won't. The Bible makes it clear we are lord over the plants and animals, they are ours to do with as we wish...That is if you mean the Christian Hell...I personally never bought into that sort of thinking.
were obviously never going to see eye to eye. lets break up

[taskmaster]

Just because you don't believe in it doesn't mean it's not there. :o

Then if thats what it takes to eat meat then I guess I'm going.

[bluejake01]

plants cant feel pain. :rolleyes:

You can't prove that. They have a nervous system, it'a just different than an animals. They repond to stimuli and react to emotional states and physical harm. Just because YOU don't understand how something works, doesn't mean that it doesn't work. SO I challange you to prove that they don't. Of course I can't prove that they can, but that is what makes it an OPINION. SO I ask again, should I threaten physical harm against you for not thinking the way I do? It works so well for you.

[Wilhelm-Scream]

Just because you don't believe in it doesn't mean it's not there. :oYou realize of course that your post is meaningless...'cause I can just as easily say, "Just because you don't believe in Allah and the Mighty Morphin' Power Rangers and the way they united to end global pollution with a combustion engine that runs on mayonaise and emits pure gold coins, doesn't mean they don't exist...and didn't do that."
:rolleyes:

[Jolie_Desastre]

plants cant feel pain. :rolleyes:

but it's a living thing

[bluejake01]

were obviously never going to see eye to eye. lets break up

Why is your typical response to a challenge you can't answer, to change the subject?

[Winter Spleen]

You realize of course that your post is meaningless...'cause I can just as easily say, "Just because you don't believe in Allah and the Mighty Morphin' Power Rangers and the way they united to end global pollution with a combustion engine that runs on mayonaise and emits pure gold coins, doesn't mean they don't exist...and didn't do that."
:rolleyes:

Yes. Of course. I just wanted my post count to go up, you fool.

Now leave me alone in my bliss. :o

[Holly Goodhead]

Why is your typical response to a challenge you can't answer, to change the subject?

quit flirting with me..ugh

[Holly Goodhead]

but it's a living thing

they dont have brains, no nervous system. they cant feel.

[bluejake01]

oh my god..seriously, no matter how much you "pray" to mother goddess or whatever the **** it doesnt make it right, its disgusting. youre hurting living creatures that feel pain just like humans. voiceless victims

When I die I will be eaten, by bacteria, that will **** me out. Plants will eat that **** and grow, animals will eat the plants, other animals will eat those animals, they will die and be eaten by bacteria. It is an endless cycle. It is a chain that cannot be broken. It is nature, it is life, it is beautiful and horrible...it is reality...join it.

[Wilhelm-Scream]

plants cant feel pain. :rolleyes:Plants do feel pain. They're the ultimate "voiceless victims". You can't hear them scream so you assume they aren't "alive", but they're very alive and they definitely feel pain. They mate, have musical preferences and people ignore they're feelings just because we don't have a common ground for communication. :o

[Addendum]

"And the angel of the Lord came unto me, snnatching me up from my place of slumber. And took me on high, and higher still until we moved to the spaces betwixt the air itself. And he brought me into a vast farmlands of our own midwest. And as we descended, cries of impending doom rose from the soil. One thousand, nay a million voices full of fear. And terror possesed me then. And I begged, "Angel of the Lord, what are these tortured screams?" And the angel said unto me, "These are the cries of the carrots, the cries of the carrots! You see, Reverend Maynard, tomorrow is harvest day and to them it is the holocaust." And I sprang from my slumber drenched in sweat like the tears of one million terrified brothers and roared, "Hear me now, I have seen the light! They have a consciousness, they have a life, they have a soul! Damn you! Let the rabbits wear glasses! Save our brothers!" Can I get an amen? Can I get a hallelujah? Thank you Jesus"

[bluejake01]

they dont have brains, no nervous system. they cant feel.

Why would they need what you call a brain? They do have a central nervous system, it's just not meat. Why would a plant, made of different cells than meat need to operate like meat in order to operate? They are different life forms entirely. I KNOW that plants feel. I have communicated with them. They have spirits, they feel pain...they RESPOND to it. We can measure their responses with specialized equipment. They emit energy, and waves similar to brain waves.

[Holly Goodhead]

Why would they need what you call a brain? They do have a central nervous system, it's just not meat. Why would a plant, made of different cells than meat need to operate like meat in order to operate? They are different life forms entirely. I KNOW that plants feel. I have communicated with them. They have spirits, they feel pain...they RESPOND to it. We can measure their responses with specialized equipment. They emit energy, and waves similar to brain waves.
youre psychotic

[bluejake01]

youre psychotic

Uhm...yeah...If someone doesn't think just like you then by all means insult and threaten them. You are a gem.

[SLVRSR4]

Musical preferences? I wonder if strawberries grow faster if you play strawberrry fields forever then? Taskmaster:up:

[Holly Goodhead]

Uhm...yeah...If someone doesn't think just like you then by all means insult and threaten them. You are a gem.

right...go talk to the plants some more....tell them i said "hi"

[taskmaster]

I don't think I've ever hated some that I've never met in person before as much as this.

[bluejake01]

right...go talk to the plants some more....tell them i said "hi"

They don't like you, and I'd rather they not know that I have even spoken with you...you are bad for my social standing.

[Holly Goodhead]

They don't like you, and I'd rather they not know that I have even spoken with you...you are bad for my social standing.

:( well the animals like me better :o

[bluejake01]

:( well the animals like me better :o

Nope...sorry they also told me you are a prat. The Bears laugh at you but the rodents are quite fond of you...all up until harvest time when you and other vegetarians give no thought at all to the millions of them that you kill for your food.

[Holly Goodhead]

you win some you lose some. :o

[Winter Spleen]

Nope...sorry they also told me you are a prat. The Bears laugh at you but the rodents are quite fond of you...all up until harvest time when you and other vegetarians give no thought at all to the millions of them that you kill for your food.

I was amused.

[bluejake01]

you win some you lose some. :o

There is the truth behind your rambling...you don't REALLY care about living things, or animals...you just want to feel better about something in your pathetic little life. Being PETA nazi appeals to the little girl with no firends. I guess it's nice to belong somewhere.

[Holly Goodhead]

lol

[Wilhelm-Scream]

don't bite my styles. K, cupcake?

[bluejake01]

don't bite my styles. K, cupcake?

DO what now?

[Wilhelm-Scream]

Don't bite my styles. K, cupcake?

[Winter Spleen]

He makes a point.

[taskmaster]

Wth?

[bluejake01]

Don't bite my styles. K, cupcake?

If you were talking to me...I might have to remind you that I have been on this site since 2001 and have been posting in that "style" ever since then. I should accuse you of biting my style, but I realize there is room for more than one ******* on this board.

[bluejake01]

He makes a point.

Nah...he really doesn't. I have been at this for over 4 years...he has been here less than 1.

[Winter Spleen]

wow. Total disbelief.

[Wilhelm-Scream]

hrrm, you(bluejake) were the last thing on my mind when I said that, champ.

[bluejake01]

hrrm, you were the last thing on my mind when I said that, champ.


That's good then...Here is me eating crow. My apologies.

[Batty for Bats!]

Don't bite my styles. K, cupcake?
I love your avatar, but can't quite place it. It looks like a snow tiger (kinda). I think thats whats so intriguing about it. Don't tell me, let me speculation.
Strawberry pancakes, don't make me wait for it.
Strawberry pancakes, I'm coming for you!
Here I come, on my bike.
I'm looking for Pancakes!
Pancakes, Pancakes, Pancakes!
Give me your pancakes!
Here I come, on my lovely girl bike.
Its a girl bike, you can tell thats its a girl bike because the cross bar is very low...

edit: crap, left out some.

[Winter Spleen]

hrrm, you were the last thing on my mind when I said that, champ.

I blame it on the flowers and all their devil-talk. :mad:

[Holly Goodhead]

I love your avatar, but can't quite place it. It looks like a snow tiger (kinda). I think thats whats so intriguing about it. Don't tell me, let me speculation.
Strawberry pancakes, don't make me wait for it.
Strawberry pancakes, I'm coming for you!
Here I come, on my bike.
I'm looking for Pancakes!
Pancakes, Pancakes, Pancakes!
Give me your pancakes!
Here I come, on my lovely girl bike.
Its a girl bike, you can tell thats its a girl bike because the cross bar is very low...

edit: crap, left out some.

holy ****

[Addendum]

I prefer Raspberry pancakes

[bluejake01]

I blame it on the flowers and all their devil-talk. :mad:

It's the poppies...it's gotta be.

[Wilhelm-Scream]

Now We're getting somewhere.
Thanks all for reminding me of why it is that I come here when I can't sleep at night. :up:

[bluejake01]

Pancakes are for girls...and bears...and oranges...and sometimes small monkeys.

[Human Shield]

Animals are property, they are a renewable resource. They can't hold responsiblity.

"That the concept of a species ethic is part of the nature of the world may be seen, moreover, by contemplating the activities of other species in nature. It is more than a jest to point out that animals, after all, don’t respect the “rights” of other animals; it is the condition of the world, and of all natural species, that they live by eating other species. Inter-species survival is a matter of tooth and claw. It would surely be absurd to say that the wolf is “evil” because he exists by devouring and “aggressing against” lambs, chickens, etc. The wolf is not an evil being who “aggresses against” other species; he is simply following the natural law of his own survival. Similarly for man. It is just as absurd to say that men “aggress against” cows and wolves as to say that wolves “aggress against” sheep. If, furthermore, a wolf attacks a man and the man kills him, it would be absurd to say either that the wolf was an “evil aggressor” or that the wolf was being “punished” for his “crime.” And yet such would be the implications of extending a natural-rights ethic to animals. Any concept of rights, of criminality, of aggression, can only apply to actions of one man or group of men against other human beings.

There is, in fact, rough justice in the common quip that “we will recognize the rights of animals whenever they petition for them.” The fact that animals can obviously not petition for their “rights” is part of their nature, and part of the reason why they are clearly not equivalent to, and do not possess the rights of, human beings. And if it be protested that babies can’t petition either, the reply of course is that babies are future human adults, whereas animals obviously are not."

[bluejake01]

Now We're getting somewhere.
Thanks all for reminding me of why it is that I come here when I can't sleep at night. :up:

Pancakes?

[Holly Goodhead]

Animals are property, they are a renewable resource. They can't hold responsiblity.

"That the concept of a species ethic is part of the nature of the world may be seen, moreover, by contemplating the activities of other species in nature. It is more than a jest to point out that animals, after all, don’t respect the “rights” of other animals; it is the condition of the world, and of all natural species, that they live by eating other species. Inter-species survival is a matter of tooth and claw. It would surely be absurd to say that the wolf is “evil” because he exists by devouring and “aggressing against” lambs, chickens, etc. The wolf is not an evil being who “aggresses against” other species; he is simply following the natural law of his own survival. Similarly for man. It is just as absurd to say that men “aggress against” cows and wolves as to say that wolves “aggress against” sheep. If, furthermore, a wolf attacks a man and the man kills him, it would be absurd to say either that the wolf was an “evil aggressor” or that the wolf was being “punished” for his “crime.” And yet such would be the implications of extending a natural-rights ethic to animals. Any concept of rights, of criminality, of aggression, can only apply to actions of one man or group of men against other human beings.

There is, in fact, rough justice in the common quip that “we will recognize the rights of animals whenever they petition for them.” The fact that animals can obviously not petition for their “rights” is part of their nature, and part of the reason why they are clearly not equivalent to, and do not possess the rights of, human beings. And if it be protested that babies can’t petition either, the reply of course is that babies are future human adults, whereas animals obviously are not."

not even gonna bother reading this, because youre wrong. :down

[bluejake01]

not even gonna bother reading this, because youre wrong. :down
I concur...for once.

[Batty for Bats!]

Pancakes?
incase doesn't have a freakin idea to anything that i said. www.weebls-stuff.com

[bluejake01]

Except I did read it...still thought it was flawed.

[Holly Goodhead]

I concur...for once.

first sign of the apocalypse..:(

[bluejake01]

incase doesn't have a freakin idea to anything that i said. www.weebls-stuff.com

So now there is a world OUTSIDE the HYPE? Damnit.

[Winter Spleen]

first sign of the apocalypse..:(

Ya'll must make love now and watch the world implode.

[Holly Goodhead]

id rather eat my hair

[bluejake01]

Ya'll must make love now and watch the world implode.

But she's a bottom feeder and I am at the top of the food chain with the other humans...that would be interspecies relations...and it would be wrong. Just ask PETA.

[bluejake01]

id rather eat my hair

Better your hair than a defenseless plant.

[Human Shield]

not even gonna bother reading this, because youre wrong. :down

Bull****. There is no explanation for the source of animal rights.

[Holly Goodhead]

Better your hair than a defenseless plant.
im going to sneak into your house at night and eat all your defenseless houseplants.

[Batty for Bats!]

first sign of the apocalypse..:(
Did anyone else think of Jay from Dogma at the end? Anyone... I'm a lost soul.

[Cyclops]

Well, if you stand up against cruelty to animals, you'd be a hypocrite if you didn't stand up against cruelty to plants.

Both are living beings. Both are part of the natural world and deserve the right to live. We are in no position to take life away from either animals or plants because it is immoral and unethical.

Which is bull****. PETA and Animal Rights activists are stupid. There.

[Wilhelm-Scream]

id rather eat my hairYUM! with Ranch on the side?

[Batty for Bats!]

YUM! with Ranch on the side?
I also prefer BBQ sauce whenever I eat my hair. But thats just me.:) you can be 'weird' and eat it with Ranch.

[Wilhelm-Scream]

yeah. I'm an Iconoclast. :o

[TheAlmightyFuzz]

There is NOTHING instinctual about raising livestock for consumption. That is what sets man apart. Butchering, preparing and cooking, also not instinct. I am a pagan and can't stand the way livestock is treated for mass consumption. Besides being cruel, the meat tastes bad. I also believe when I eat meat I am ingesting that animals suffering, which is why I am sure to buy only free range chicken, and pork or beef raised on small farms, in good conditions, slaughtered humanely. I pray to the father god and mother goddess in thanks for the meat, and thank and bless the animal. I prepare the meat with love, and do my best to give back to the earth when I take from it. There are alternatives to mass production and animals cruelty. I have gone hunting, and when I kill an animal I eat the meat and tan the hide for shoes, belts and clothing. Nothing should be wasted. Practicality makes it impossible for me to hunt my own food often, but I do what I can where I can. What I hate about PETA is the extreme nature of their beliefs and actions.What the **** are you talking about, freak? I'm talking about eating meat, not raising livestock, I'm not a ****ing farmer. You'd let deer overtake your house.

[Batty for Bats!]

What the **** are you talking about, freak? I'm talking about eating meat, not raising livestock, I'm not a ****ing farmer. You'd let deer overtake your house. I think I lost you.

[bluejake01]

What the **** are you talking about, freak? I'm talking about eating meat, not raising livestock, I'm not a ****ing farmer. You'd let deer overtake your house.

I have been banned for less than what you just said...

[Avalanche]

*struts in wearing a bear, a mink, an elephant and a seal*

Don't I look pretty?

In all seriousness, I wouldn't do it myself, but that's possibly because animal skins really don't look that good. That said, I own leather belts.

[Mr. Smash'n Bash]

i agree with PETA, if people wont listen...then make them listen. :)


Yes, make them listen by adopting bunchs of homeless little puppies, then killing them and stuffing their dead decaying bodies in dumpsters.










:o

[Atrax robustus]

http://www.pubfoto.com/albums/Immagini/eat_more_chicken.sized.jpg

[Holly Goodhead]

Well, if you stand up against cruelty to animals, you'd be a hypocrite if you didn't stand up against cruelty to plants.

Both are living beings. Both are part of the natural world and deserve the right to live. We are in no position to take life away from either animals or plants because it is immoral and unethical.

Which is bull****. PETA and Animal Rights activists are stupid. There.


"I believe that our consciousness is intimately connected to our brain and nervous system. By the term "consciousness", I am referring to the ability to feel sensations such as pain, suffering, and a desire to live. Once a person is brain dead, he is no longer able to feel such sensations. Therefore, since plants do not possess anything even remotely resembling a nervous system, I believe it is extremely unlikely that plants can feel pain or suffering.

Furthermore, plants do not exhibit any behavior which would indicate consciousness, nor does the ability to feel pain give plants an evolutionary survival advantage. An animal's survival depends on reacting to situations which may cause pain and suffering. On the other hand, plants can not run away from a predator, nor can plants change their position to avoid a forest fire. Therefore, it is unlikely that plants would develop the ability to feel pain when it confers no survival advantage."

[Holly Goodhead]

choke on it :up:

[Human Shield]

Animals are useful in many ways (http://www.bigducky.com/funny_extreme_videos/minefields_animals.htm)

[Holly Goodhead]

your mom is useful in many ways. :up:

[Jolie_Desastre]

oh shut up lucy your screwing the ice cream man and that is very anti-peta of you :o

[Holly Goodhead]

oh shut up lucy your screwing the milk man and that is very anti-peta of you :o

milk men still exist?

[Addendum]

That was a cool vid

[Jolie_Desastre]

milk men still exist?

oh s*** did i write milk man i meant ice cream man! that is very anti-peta you dairy whore:eek:

[Holly Goodhead]

id suck the cream:o:o out of his popsicle. :mad:and so would you if you saw him. :o

[Jolie_Desastre]

i probably would! :eek: you seem to have good taste in men why not

oh crap i just made a pun:eek:

[Holly Goodhead]

hes so hot, if only he didnt have a loser job then maybe i could date him. :up:

[Jolie_Desastre]

i knew there was a catch, ;)

but he can just be your boytoy

[Holly Goodhead]

oh well, atleast i can put ice cream cones on my nips :(

[Jolie_Desastre]

get yourself a rich guy and use your coneboy on the side :up:

[Holly Goodhead]

i want a cowboy

[Jolie_Desastre]

don't hog them all to yourself!

remember monday-coneboy, tuesday-cowboy we gotta share :o

[Holly Goodhead]

what the **** does SHARE mean?!:o

[Jolie_Desastre]

god that crystal meth really screwed you up, i gotta teach you again

[Holly Goodhead]

i dont "share". im selfish

[Jolie_Desastre]

what about that night with the mail man

oh wait you knocked me unconcieous and i woke up in bora bora?

[Holly Goodhead]

i still have your virginity...its somewhere around here..

[Jolie_Desastre]

you have it, thank god i thought i lost it......wait :confused:

oh well i still have your credit card!

[Holly Goodhead]

you little nazi you

[Jolie_Desastre]

so whatever happened to you and the mail man

[Holly Goodhead]

i had sex with him then ate him.