Official Legion of Super-Heroes Thread

[Themanofbat]

No.1 comes out in December... written by Mark Waid.

I loved the Legion as a kid in the late 70's, but the title has served little purpose with me since Crisis & Zero Hour. However, I'm getting this book largely in part to Mark Waid.

Anyone else picking this up?
:)

[Movies205]

The TT/Legion special was really cool so I'll be picking this up.

[Doc Destruction]

It's going to be really hard to beat Giffen's run IMO, but I may check it out.

[Lobo]

I never read LoSH but I'm looking forward to this Waid is great and I figure this will be a great place to start reading Legion. Should I get the archives?

[Rurouni-KJS]

I'm a LSH die-hard, so I'm in.

You don't really need to bother with the archives unless you just want to read some fun, goofy Silver Age comics. Waid appears to really be recreating the Legion from scratch. Where the Zero Hour reboot version involved some retelling of classic stories (or lame twists on same), Waid is on record as saying he plans nothing of the sort for this series. In fact, he says he's told the editor to fire him if he proposes a story involving Universo or Darkseid (the respective heavies of "The Universo Project" and "Great Darkness Saga," two classic LSH arcs).

'Course, Bendis once said he'd never write Ultimate Carnage. And frankly, he should've stuck to his guns. But I digress......

[Johnny Blaze]

Never got into the Legion back in the day, but I will definitely be picking it up now. Especially with Mark Waid writing it; that's an added bonus. :) :up:

[starlancer]

Being a LSH fan all my life i started to shake each time i heard the word revamp . So far each revamp has stayed true to the Leigon . If you can understand all the revamps .. all the different story lines you should have no trouble understanding
pre-crisis DCU.

"Long Live The Legion!"

[The Leaguer]

I've never had any desire to read Legion, but I'll be buying this new relaunch. It looks pretty cool.

[Lackey]

Count me in with everyone else... I'll be reading this because of Mark Waid

[Tropico]

I've been buying Legion a little before the batch SW-6 started appearing and haven't stopped since. I'm looking forward to this new version. If it takes Mark Waid to bring in more people, all the more power to DC. I just hope when Waid leaves that we'll be left with new Legion fans and not just Waid groupies. The story looks good up to this point, I would have preferred a different artist though.

[Ultimate_Superman]

I am still a big ol'school fan of them when they had Superboy.

[Matthew E]

I'm supposed to be subscribing to Legion, but there was a five-month period where the subscription department couldn't get it together to renew me. I don't even remember how many times I called them. Anyway, it's supposed to be all sorted out now, but I still haven't received any comics from them since early summertime. So we'll see.

For me, Legion was that comic book I just couldn't shake. I started and stopped collecting it more times than I can remember. I first started around the time of the first Annual, around when Blok joined. (This is mid-'80s.) Then, for reasons irrelevant to this thread, I stopped collecting comics altogether for a long time. I only started again a couple of years ago, and only with Legion. (Man, I missed a lot in the interim.) I think they've got me for life this time.

[Themanofbat]

I'm supposed to be subscribing to Legion, but there was a five-month period where the subscription department couldn't get it together to renew me. I don't even remember how many times I called them. Anyway, it's supposed to be all sorted out now, but I still haven't received any comics from them since early summertime. So we'll see.

For me, Legion was that comic book I just couldn't shake. I started and stopped collecting it more times than I can remember. I first started around the time of the first Annual, around when Blok joined. (This is mid-'80s.) Then, for reasons irrelevant to this thread, I stopped collecting comics altogether for a long time. I only started again a couple of years ago, and only with Legion. (Man, I missed a lot in the interim.) I think they've got me for life this time.

Too bad about the subscription problems... I hope things work out.

I had the same problem with Spider-Man in the late 90's. After collecting all the Spidey books from 1978 to 1997, I finally stopped. I had had enough. My last issue of Amazing was #421. In 2001, I picked up issue #471 (the first JMS one), and being the completist that I am, I managed to scoop up the missing 50 issues to complete my Spidey collection. Like yourself, I am probably hooked for life this time.

Welcome aboard... :)

[The Batman]

Will this book have Superboy?

[Themanofbat]

Will this book have Superboy?

Not unless they can have the new Superboy show up... which I doubt, since he's in the Titans.

So I would probably say no.

[Lord Blackbolt]

I buying this. Next to Geoff Johns, Waid is my favorite writer.

[Matthew E]

Will this book have Superboy?

I suspect eventually it will, in some way. This is the big problem with Legion: they have to have Superboy, or at least they think they do, but on the other hand this causes continuity problems and they aren't always allowed to. Why else have there been so many reboots? Anyway, I just get the feeling that they can't help pressing that Superboy button.

[Themanofbat]

No.1 comes out next week.

:)

[DBM]

I've barely read any Legion stories fromt the past but I'm going to pick this up.

And the reason?

Mainly because I think the cover to #1 looks cool. It's as simple as that. Mark Waid is a bonus though.

[Franklin Richards]

Go Saturn Girl!!!


:thing: :doom: :thing:

[3dman27]

could someone post the cover please ?thanks

[Lackey]

http://dccomics.com/media/covers/2221_400x600.jpg

[Lackey]

covers for issues #2 and #3 also...

http://dccomics.com/media/covers/2548_400x600.jpg

http://dccomics.com/media/covers/2681_400x600.jpg


By the way... Waid and Kitson did a series together a while back called Empire, I recommend it to all Waid fans. :up:

[Movies205]

i also believe it's 3 bucks for 42 pages every issue, that's the way it shoudl be :o At least I'm getting a bang for my extra 50 cents :)

[3dman27]

i like the triplicate girl/triad cover but isn't star boy white?and isn't that shadow lass /umbra next to him?

[DBM]

Good article with Kitson at CBR. Has lots of Character sketches and stuff.

http://www.comicbookresources.com/news/newsitem.cgi?id=4599


I find it kind of fun that Element Lad is described as "our Dr. Fate figure. Or a teenaged Dr. Strange" on the sketch sheet because I remember TheCorpulent1 mentinoning that the costume looked like Dr. Fate's in another thread.

[TheCorpulent1]

Wow, go me. I had absolutely no idea what I was talking about at the time, either. :D :up:

[DBM]

Wow, go me. I had absolutely no idea what I was talking about at the time, either. :D :up:

I thought you'd get a kick out of that. :)

[TheCorpulent1]

I suspect eventually it will, in some way. This is the big problem with Legion: they have to have Superboy, or at least they think they do, but on the other hand this causes continuity problems and they aren't always allowed to. Why else have there been so many reboots? Anyway, I just get the feeling that they can't help pressing that Superboy button.
Why do they need Superboy? :confused:

They started out with Superboy, but hasn't there been enough work with the Legion's other characters that they can now forge their own path, without Superboy or any stand-ins for him like M'onel?
I thought you'd get a kick out of that. :)
Yeah. I'm curious to see how they work that aspect into the story, too. I just read the first Books of Magic TPB and they said that magic had all but died out by the Legion's time. The fact that Mordru's the only big magic user and he's evil seems to cast magic on the "bad guy" side of the magic vs. technology conflict, too. I wonder what effect that and Mordru's inevitable appearance will play on Element Lad's new status... wow, lots of possibilities from a simple costume change.

[DBM]

Yeah. I'm curious to see how they work that aspect into the story, too. I just read the first Books of Magic TPB and they said that magic had all but died out by the Legion's time. The fact that Mordru's the only big magic user and he's evil seems to cast magic on the "bad guy" side of the magic vs. technology conflict, too. I wonder what effect that and Mordru's inevitable appearance will play on Element Lad's new status... wow, lots of possibilities from a simple costume change.

Well, they haven't really said how Element Lad's powers are going to work. I'm assuming they stick with the same basis for them and not make them magically based. It sounds like he's going to be philosphically/attitude like Dr. Fate rather than powers that are similar. But I could be wrong.

[TheCorpulent1]

Kitson mentioned alchemy in the design notes. Alchemy describes Element Lad's existing powers pretty well, but it also carries a heavy mystical connotation with it. I figured it wouldn't just be Element Lad, same as before, with a costume and an attitude like Fate's; I thought it'd be that his whole perception of himself and his powers would change, so that even if his powers aren't mystical in nature, he maybe views them as having some sort of mysterious, magical component. Or I'm talking out of my ass.

[Dwarf lord]

I made the decision tonight to get it and I was wondering who else is getting it.

[Lackey]

I'll be getting Legion

http://superherohype.com/forums/showthread.php?t=149446

[TheCorpulent1]

I'll be getting it.

[The Leaguer]

Me, too.

[3dman27]

who are your favorite legionarres in my case its a draw between aparition and karate kid

[NightRiver]

Me too! I always wanted to read the legion but didnt know where to start, now is my chance.

[Johnny Blaze]

Same here; Waid and Kitson rule all!

[DBM]

I got it. Haven't had a chance to read it yet but I bought it.

[Johnny Blaze]

I'll be going to pick it up here in a few myself. :D

[X]

Probably pick it up. They relaunch this ****ing book again in two years and DC Headquarters is going to burn to the ground.

[TheCorpulent1]

I think I'm gonna brave Miami traffic and go for it now.

[Lobo]

I got it. My favorite character in the issue was Sun Boy

[Darthphere]

I think I'm gonna brave Miami traffic and go for it now.


HA-HA! I feel you man, I feel you.

[Ben Urich]

Wait, is Legion the team of lame kids from the silver age with names like "Superhero Lad" and all that?

[Harlekin]

Wait, is Legion the team of lame kids from the silver age with names like "Superhero Lad" and all that?
Not necessarily names like THAT, but yeah its the Legion of Superheroes. They're from the future, created in the Silver Age and had all kinds of wacky adventures.

Not sure yet if I'm going to pick it up.

[X]

Wait, is Legion the team of lame kids from the silver age with names like "Superhero Lad" and all that?

Silence! Those "lame" kids starred in one of the best books The Silver Age ever saw. :mad:

[Anubis]

I'm gonna get it.

[Movies205]

I got it, haven't read it yet though :(

[The Leaguer]

F***! I knew the blank spot on the new comics table in my comics shop was something important! I'll have to check my other shop tomorrow.

[TheCorpulent1]

Missed this one 'cause the crappy comic shop here is moving to a new location. I'm gonna go to the new place tomorrow and see if they have it. I have an even bigger interest in this now, besides just wanting to read it, thanks to Element Lad.

Although, in all fairness, the kids of the Legion do have some goofy names. Element Lad just sounds silly. I hope they modernize a few of the names a bit.

[Johnny Blaze]

Got it. Read it. Loved it.
I really enjoy the combo of Waid and Kitson. I hope they stay on this book for a nice long run. :)

And sorry Corp, no Element Lad (at least not yet) and no updating of the names.

[Lackey]

you know, we got a thread for this already that TMOB made

http://superherohype.com/forums/showthread.php?t=149446

[Matthew E]

They started out with Superboy, but hasn't there been enough work with the Legion's other characters that they can now forge their own path, without Superboy or any stand-ins for him like M'onel?

Oh, I agree. As far as I'm concerned, they don't need Superboy. I actually prefer the Legion without him. But then, they haven't asked us. I think DC thinks they need him.

[Matthew E]

I'm supposed to be subscribing to it. Supposed to, I say again. We'll see.

[Ben Urich]

Element Lad?
Well, ****, they got right to the point when they came up with their names.

[The Watchman]

Got it, read it, not bad, waiting on the next couple of issues to really hook me in.

[Agentdemon]

can't get it, my comic budget is too high :( .

[Tropico]

Missed this one 'cause the crappy comic shop here is moving to a new location. I'm gonna go to the new place tomorrow and see if they have it. I have an even bigger interest in this now, besides just wanting to read it, thanks to Element Lad.

Although, in all fairness, the kids of the Legion do have some goofy names. Element Lad just sounds silly. I hope they modernize a few of the names a bit.

They did that a while back when there was the adult Legion and the a teenage Legion running around at the same time. Element Lad was named Alchemist. From what I've read of the new Legion ongoing is that they wanted to go back to basics INCLUDING the code names. So, yes, all codenames will probably have "lad, lass, boy, girl, kid" attached to them.

[yenaled]

I just love the art on this series. It makes me want to pick it up so badly.

[Dwarf lord]

Element Lad?
Well, ****, they got right to the point when they came up with their names.

It's silver age fun at it's best. More comics should be like this.

[Dwarf lord]

Well, he's not in this series. They just spent a whole issue on why he won't be in it (See Teen Titans/Legion Special)

[Matthew E]

Well, he's not in this series. They just spent a whole issue on why he won't be in it (See Teen Titans/Legion Special)

Well, I haven't read it (subscription problems again!), so I can't speak to that part of your post. But I predict that if this series goes on long enough, Superboy will show up in some way. I think they just can't help it.

[Johnny Blaze]

I'll have to go back and re-read that TT/Legion crossover again. :o

[TheCorpulent1]

I don't think Superboy's necessarily barred from ever returning to the Legion. He chose the Titans, true, but that doesn't mean he can't head into the future every now and then.

[Lord Blackbolt]

But with him going into the future the last time...didn't he cause this relaunch by messing with Time? Causing the team to restart

[Tropico]

This is why I didn't want DC messing with time again... I don't wonder if Superboy will be in the Legion or if he will be able to go back (I don't doubt it would be possible). What I DO wonder is, if the future changed so much where the #$*@ did Impulse come from?! I love the Legion, but the TT crossover brought more problems than solutions.

[TheCorpulent1]

Impulse is supposed to be immune to time distortions now. He's there for the long haul regardless of what happens to the timeline. Plus, it doesn't necessarily mean that the timeline is different enough now that he isn't born and sent back anyway.

[3dman27]

It's silver age fun at it's best. More comics should be like this.you've got THAT right

[Themanofbat]

you know, we got a thread for this already that TMOB made

http://superherohype.com/forums/showthread.php?t=149446

Well, this post confused the hell outa me... :mad: :mad: :mad:

:)

My shop hasn't had the new comics out yet (due to the holidays), so they'll probably be out tomorrow.

But I have my copy reserved.

:cool:

[Johnny Blaze]

Well, this post confused the hell outa me... :mad: :mad: :mad: It was from another Legion thread that someone started (can't remember who off hand), and I guess a mod merged the threads.

[Themanofbat]

It was from another Legion thread that someone started (can't remember who off hand), and I guess a mod merged the threads.

Well thanks for clearing that up.

:)

[Themanofbat]

Well, I picked up No.1 today, and the art looks fantastic.

I'll probably get around to reading it tomorrow.

Happy New Year everyone.

:)

[TheCorpulent1]

What does the Legion: Foundations TPB cover? I bought it on a whim and while flipping through it I saw Superboy appear. Is that part of it supposed to be what happened during the time that elapsed in Teen Titans between when Kon disappeared at dinner with Cassie and reappeared in the old school Superboy costume in Titans Tower?

[Tropico]

What does the Legion: Foundations TPB cover? I bought it on a whim and while flipping through it I saw Superboy appear. Is that part of it supposed to be what happened during the time that elapsed in Teen Titans between when Kon disappeared at dinner with Cassie and reappeared in the old school Superboy costume in Titans Tower?

Yes, more or less that time. To the Legion readers Superboy came out of practically nowhere. It wasn't until the TT comic that we see where he was taken into the future, it confused the hell out of me at the time.

Sorry, Corp, I've been meaning to answer your question in the DTL about Foundations but always forget about it. I think the Element Lad that you see there is the version that has the crystalline body and Lightning Lad's "soul". Lightning Lad with Element Lad's powers. :up: :D

[TheCorpulent1]

Yeah, I just read past that part. That scene between him and Saturn Girl where he tries to put his hand on hers but she gets called away was kind of heartbreaking. :(

Reading this really makes me wish I could find a goddamn copy of the new Legion comic. But no, the comic shop in Miami had to be sold out and now the one here in Gainesville is, too. Son of a b****. :mad:

[DBM]

Here's an article that I hadn't noticed before. Some character sketches I hadn't seen yet either.

http://www.comicon.com/cgi-bin/pulse.cgi?http%3A//www.comicon.com/cgi-bin/ultimatebb.cgi%3Fubb%3Dget_topic%26f%3D36%26t%3D00 3270

http://www.comicon.com/pulse/images_3/1kitson2.jpg

http://www.comicon.com/pulse/images_3/1kitson3.jpg

[DBM]

http://www.comicon.com/pulse/images_3/1kitson4.jpg

http://www.comicon.com/pulse/images_3/1kitson10.jpg

http://www.comicon.com/pulse/images_3/1kitson5.jpg

http://www.comicon.com/pulse/images_3/1kitson6.jpg

http://www.comicon.com/pulse/images_3/1kitson7.jpg

http://www.comicon.com/pulse/images_3/1kitson8.jpg

http://www.comicon.com/pulse/images_3/1kitson9.jpg

[TheCorpulent1]

I FINALLY found a copy! Wow, it was really good. I like how Waid recast the Legion as political ideologists viewed as one step shy of terrorists as opposed to the adored heroes. After reading it, I rescind my comment about Element Lad too. Consciously retro makes perfect sense in the context. I'm curious about how Brainy will be. Given the cover, it looks like he might be taking a more grim and less upbeat personality shift, which would kind of suck for me. I liked Brainy a lot as he was.

Colossal Boy/Micro Lad was hilarious. :D

[Tropico]

I guess I might be one of the few who wasn't that blown away by this first issue. I'm still uncomfortable with the Legion's "rebel" approach, but we still have a lot to see on how this universe is run; they just might be the voice of freedom in a police state. I'll also miss the use of their made up curses (nass, sprock, etc.) and other particular words that had stuck through all the incarnations. "Eat it, grandpa" as a battle cry? Err, okay; I guess its appeal is lost on older readers. I'm a bit confused at some of the measures that have been taken against the Legion kids: gracity bulldozers and armed warfare? It clashes with the "boring, pacifistic" society they're supposed to live in.

It's still good though. The art and story don't disappoint. The Star Boy and Micro Lad bits were funny. Most of the classic (and fan favorite) characters are there. I just hope we get something good comes out of this Lallor mess. The champions of Lallor were another Legion-like group that I liked seeing and would like to see represented again. Maybe in the next issue? For the moment, with issue #1 I can still say one of the old battle cries: Long Live the Legion. :D

[TheCorpulent1]

Well, they did say it was the first Legion battle-cry. Maybe they'll work their way up to "Long live the Legion." :)

[DBM]

Preview to issue 2.

http://www.popcultureshock.com/reviews.php?id=3791

[TheCorpulent1]

I saw it. Hence the new sig. :)

[DBM]

Great issue out today. Very interesting take on a society of precogs. And Braniac seems to be an interesting character.

And it's a lot of fun to see how the Legionairres are still teens through the pranks they play on each other.

Even considering that this comic is longer than the standard comic, I wish it was longer still because there is just so much going on in it that I crave more as soon as I'm done.

[TheCorpulent1]

Brainiac and Dream Girl were excellent in this issue. I'm looking forward to seeing more of Brainy now. He's just snarky enough to be hilarious. :)

[Johnny Blaze]

Awesome issue.
Loved the dialogue between Brainiac and Dream Girl...
The whole deal with DG's people making the kids unable to dream was cool, and the whole thing about the coming war is lookin' mighty interesting.
Did anyone who's read any previous LoS series recognize the face in Dream Girl's vision of the war?

Also, I wonder when they'll re-introduce some of the old Legion villains?

[TheCorpulent1]

Yeah, I'm looking forward to a bona-fide supervillain in the book, especially someone like the Composite Man or Mordru, but I think Waid's gonna focus on the political angle at first.

[Johnny Blaze]

True, the way it's shaping up, it does looks like the whole political angle will be the focal point for the first arc or two.
Still, that doesn't mean we won't see a bona-fide supervillain.

[TheCorpulent1]

One day... one day...

Besides, they live in the future of a universe that's been populated by super-powered characters from the beginning of time. At least ONE of them had to have gone bad in their time period. Speaking of the beginning of time, it'd be cool to see Vandal Savage or Darkseid show up.

[Johnny Blaze]

Vandal Savage would be cool. :)
Far as I know it's been a while since he's been in a book, so he could use some time in the lime light. Plus, I'm interested to see how Kitson would update his look for the future. :up:

[Ultimate_Superman]

I just have a question about this series how big of a part does Superboy of TT play in this? Is this taking place after he went back to his own time or before?

[Johnny Blaze]

He's not in it at all; not even mentioned.
As for the when, my guess'd be after the crossover.

[daredevillogan]

Just to be picky, CLASSIFIED AS LAME: Dream Girl's costume, Brainiac's attitude(Batman Jr?), Karate Kid's outfit, the idea that they call each other by hero name rather than Bill or George (I do realize it is probably to help the reader ID the hero) and the fact they had Star Boy (also a lame name) on the cover but nowhere does he appear in the book. Also, let's get Cosmic Boy out there doing some Magneto s**t.

Does anyone know if Mon-el is scheduled to appear? Where is Lightning Lad?

[Ultimate_Superman]

Mon-el better be in there back in the old days right after Superboy he was the best one. I still remember how Superboy(pre-crisis) kicked his butt in one issue :) ah the good ol' days

[Dwarf lord]

Just to be picky, CLASSIFIED AS LAME: Dream Girl's costume, Brainiac's attitude(Batman Jr?), Karate Kid's outfit, the idea that they call each other by hero name rather than Bill or George (I do realize it is probably to help the reader ID the hero) and the fact they had Star Boy (also a lame name) on the cover but nowhere does he appear in the book. Also, let's get Cosmic Boy out there doing some Magneto s**t.

Does anyone know if Mon-el is scheduled to appear? Where is Lightning Lad?

Sounds like you don't like the Legion. If I remember correctly, this is pretty close to what the Legion was back in the day.

[TheCorpulent1]

Mon-El hasn't shown up, and I don't think the new series even factors the Titans/Legion crossover into things. It's a total reimagining of the Legion concept.

[daredevillogan]

Actually, I did admit I was being picky. I like their rebellious attitude and I am a huge fan of Element Lad, Ultra Boy and Lightning Lad. I like this representation of Elemental(?) Lad (is that the name?) How many of you remember Lightning Lad had a robot arm for awhile? Element lad's candy cane-colored costume? Polar Boy (DC's version of Iceman). Damn, I am old.

Legionnaires I can do without though: Dream Girl, Bouncing Boy, Triplicate Girl (later reduced to Duo Damsel), SHrinking Violet, Princess Projectra.

[Bat-Mantis]

I just started reading Legion with this relaunch (so I haven't read any of the past incarnations) and I thought it ruled. The second issue... I wasn't a fan of AS MUCH as the first, but that doesn't mean I didn't love it.
As for certain things being "lame"... I haven't found anything to be particularly "lame" as of yet, minus the names (which were explained perfectly in issue 1). I think the costumes rule and the characters rule.
And I found myself oddly attracted to "Dream Girl" which is... odd. I'm not one of those "damn, she's a hot cartoon!" sicko's... you know who you are.
I don't know how this take differs from previous takes and I'm not corrupted by the knowledge of how Brainiac 5 used to act or what Karate Kid used to look like... I can judge it as a stand alone book, for what it is. And I think it rocks.

And also, I think it adds this sort of... darkness to the DCU. This shadow, of sorts. I'm not sure why I think of it, because this DOES take place like 10 centuries in the future, but the fact that there are no "Bat-People" and that Superman isn't whizzing around and that Wonder Woman isn't lasso-ing it up about town makes me think that maybe these guys may not be undefeatable after all. That they’ll all die one day…
Plus it makes me think of "Whatever Happened to the Man of Tomorrow?" which was my only real exposure to the Legion before this, where they go back to see Superman the day before he died.

[TheCorpulent1]

Actually, I think this incarnation of the Legion has by FAR the best costumes. Especially Karate Kid. The karate gi looks a lot better than his orange get-up. I only read the Legion Foundations TPB, which was pretty good, but I have to say, I prefer Waid and Kitson's reimagining over that. Having just come off of the absolute burn that Bendis' New Avengers is to all Avengers fans, however, I can understand where you're coming from, ddlogan.

[3dman27]

Actually, I think this incarnation of the Legion has by FAR the best costumes. Especially Karate Kid. The karate gi looks a lot better than his orange get-up. I only read the Legion Foundations TPB, which was pretty good, but I have to say, I prefer Waid and Kitson's reimagining over that. Having just come off of the absolute burn that Bendis' New Avengers is to all Avengers fans, however, I can understand where you're coming from, ddlogan.
can anyone post a pic of karate kid?

[Matthew E]

I suspect - this is entirely speculation; I have no inside knowledge of any kind - that the guy Dream Girl saw but couldn't identify will turn out to be Mon-El.

How many of you remember Lightning Lad had a robot arm for awhile? Element lad's candy cane-colored costume? Polar Boy (DC's version of Iceman). Damn, I am old.

I remember all those things. The first issue of Legion I read was the one where Blok became a member. Remember when Timber Wolf had that weird dark wolfy-face? When Dawnstar and Wildfire were the new kids on the block? When Jacques Foccart first became Invisible Kid? Good times.

[TheCorpulent1]

can anyone post a pic of karate kid?
http://www.popcultureshock.com/reviews/3791/3791_4.jpg
Guess which one he is. :)

[Lackey]

And I found myself oddly attracted to "Dream Girl" which is... odd. I'm not one of those "damn, she's a hot cartoon!" sicko's... you know who you are.


no "oddness" about it...she is hot


You should see Adam Hughes cover of Legion #35 which Gail Simone wrote right before this relaunch... it's teh hawt :)




I'd post it if I could find it :(

[3dman27]

http://www.popcultureshock.com/reviews/3791/3791_4.jpg
Guess which one he is. :)
sorry corp it didn't show up

[TheCorpulent1]

What about this one?
http://www.milehighcomics.com/firstlook/012605/images/legion2p3.gif

[Guyverjay]

Bah how long with this last anyway?

If you're a legion fan you better get used to the rug being pulled out from under you:o

[TheCorpulent1]

That's fine. I don't have any particularly strong feelings about the Legion, so I'd probably enjoy seeing new concepts for them pop up from time to time. Plus, this concept is really, really good.

[3dman27]

What about this one?
http://www.milehighcomics.com/firstlook/012605/images/legion2p3.gif
it does fine now THATS karate kid

[Matthew E]

Does anybody know of a good Legion-related website/fansite/blog/whatever that actually, you know, stays up to date? All the ones I can find are months or even years behind the times.

If there isn't one I'm gonna start my own.

[DBM]

New issue today and the only comic I read on my lunch break today.

Main story is about Triplicate Girl. She goes out on dates with Sun Boy, Ultra Lad, and Element Lad all at the same time with funny results. But the real story is that Cosmic Boy sent her on the dates to determine how the other Legionaires feel about the team and to gauge their loyalty because he thinks Braniac is going to lead an internal coup.

Great stuff. This comic hasn't disappointed yet.

[Franklin Richards]

I'm about to go buy it. I have one question. Has Saturn Girl finally showed up? She better have. :mad:


:thing: :doom: :thing:

[Johnny Blaze]

Must...resist...reading...spoilers... :o

[DBM]

I'm about to go buy it. I have one question. Has Saturn Girl finally showed up? She better have. :mad:


:thing: :doom: :thing:

Nope. But I'm sure she will eventually.

[Franklin Richards]

Nope. But I'm sure she will eventually.


:mad: :mad: :mad:

[Ultimate_Superman]

My thing is wasn't Mon-El like related to Superman in some way? I remember that he was or that he thought he was and thats how he got his name.

[3dman27]

he thought he was but he was from daxam a world with an environment and red sun simular to krypton thats why he had powers simular to the silver age superboy

[Ultimate_Superman]

he thought he was but he was from daxam a world with an environment and red sun simular to krypton thats why he had powers simular to the silver age superboyThanks I thought it was something like that.

[Johnny Blaze]

New issue today and the only comic I read on my lunch break today.

Main story is about Triplicate Girl. She goes out on dates with Sun Boy, Ultra Lad, and Element Lad all at the same time with funny results. But the real story is that Cosmic Boy sent her on the dates to determine how the other Legionaires feel about the team and to gauge their loyalty because he thinks Braniac is going to lead an internal coup.

Great stuff. This comic hasn't disappointed yet.
Yeah, I love the whole mutiny angle Waid's throwing into the mix. I wonder how it will play out, especially considering that there's a big intergalactic war that is supposed to happen sometime in the near future.
The whole re-imagining of Triplicate Girl's origin was decent. Personally, I like her origin as a sort of freak and outcast amongst her people what with her dupes not feeling the same or what not. Course, in that origin she was taken in by Mr. Brande, but, since there's aparently no Brande in this relaunch, I guess it had to be redone. Still, it was cool to see that she repopulated Cargg the way she did. :D
Though with her being the sole population one has to wonder how they will keep the Cargite race going? :confused:

And I agree, this comic has been great so far. I give it a 9 out of 10 on the Johnny Scale™. :up:

[Victor Von Doom]

This is my first D.C. Comic that i'ave ever attempted to coolect. I've only read one other D.C. TPB "JLA: The Tower of Babel."

I love this series. It's so smart and funny, it was exactly what i needed to break my way into the man o steal and the man o preptime.

[Bat-Mantis]

You need to be reading the fastest man o' live, dammit.

[Johnny Blaze]

You need to be reading the fastest man o' live, dammit.
I concur. Flash is arguably the best title DC puts out. :up:

[Lord Blackbolt]

And JSA...best team book...:)

[Victor Von Doom]

I can't seems to find JSA TPB # 1

[Victor Von Doom]

But we'll see, think i gotta find it. Every One says that it's the greatest grp book around so . . . I haven't picked up the flash series yet cause I feel like i gotta get used to the art first. I never know where to start with a long running series either. . . That's why i love the Ultimates line and the Avengers. They are all soo new that i don't feel like i'm missing out on any history or things like that.

[TheCorpulent1]

I'll agree with that: JSA is indeed the greatest team book around. The Legion looks like it could be a contender after a bit longer, although they're more of an organization than a team now.

Also, I got the first issue of the new Legion signed by Mark Waid. I was happy n' stuff. :)

[Supergirl]

Well, I grabbed the first 4 issues the other day, and loved them. When I go back tomorrow I'm picking up #5. Question: Was Brainy that egotistical pre-Crisis? If so what the hell did Kara see in him? :confused:

[TheCorpulent1]

Brainy was pretty egotistical in the Foundations TPB that I read (the story where Conner "Superboy" Kent ends up in the future to help the previous incarnation of the Legion out against Darkseid). Pretty much the only person he wouldn't condescend to was Invisible Kid. It was handled in a more comedic way than the current Brainy is though.

[Supergirl]

Oh okay, even though I'm a huge fan of both the Pre Crisis S-Boy and S-Girl, I never got into Legion. I just knew that Kara and him had quite the thing at one time...

[TheCorpulent1]

Pre-Crisis Kara goes in for the nerds, huh? ;)

[Supergirl]

She also went for Atlanteans, normal humans, and alternate dimension superheroes. :o It may have been Brainy's green skin that did it... Gar may have a shot :o

[TheCorpulent1]

Atlanteans, you say? Aqualad? :confused:

[Supergirl]

No, some sorcerer dude, if i remember correctly. He was one of her first romances.

[TheCorpulent1]

Arion?

[Supergirl]

not sure, let me check my issues real quick :o

[TheCorpulent1]

Arion was an Atlantean sorcerer from the distant past. He was set up as Power Girl's grandfather in post-Crisis continuity, until Johns debunked that with an issue of JSA where Arion's soul tells Power Girl that he lied to her.

[Supergirl]

Hmm can't find the one that references the Atlantean, but I'm sure she did :confused: Though she also had a love affair with a shapeshifting horse :confused:

[TheCorpulent1]

That's... disturbing, but not entirely surprising considering it was pre-Crisis. Those pre-Crisis comics were weird.

[Supergirl]

Found it, the Atlantean was Jerro. The horse was none other than Comet :eek:

[Supergirl]

In fact, heres a couple panels:
http://www.superherohype.com/forums/attachment.php?attachmentid=1247&stc=1
http://www.superherohype.com/forums/attachment.php?attachmentid=1248&stc=1

[TheCorpulent1]

That's... gross. :(

[Supergirl]

Oh, here's one thats somehow even worse...

















with that, I present you...



































Alabaman Kal!
http://i4.photobucket.com/albums/y115/tgirlcori/Kal.jpg
"Hey babe, ya wanna have my webfooted retarded kids?"

[KingOfDreams]

I'm liking Mark Waid's take on the Legion of Super-Heroes, though so far I've only bought one issue (either #2 or #3, I forgot which).

[Tropico]

http://i4.photobucket.com/albums/y115/tgirlcori/Kal.jpg


Hahahahahaha! Supergirl is TOTALLY freaking out in that pic! Look at her face.:D
Poor Kara, I hope Comet didn't have some horse left in him when he turned human. Otherwise, she would have been in for a BIG surprise! (Yeah, I know comics from that era would NEVER go there).

[TheCorpulent1]

I never thought comics from that era would ever go to a place where Supergirl would bone a horse dude in the first place, so who knows?

[Lord Blackbolt]

More like Super ho......


Sorry:(

[Supergirl]

The Supes one is almost as bad as that Batman "Robin, what have I done to you" pic that floats around...

On topic issue #5 ruled. It gave me a new sig :o

[Doc Destruction]

Um, ewwwww.

[Ultimate_Superman]

Oh, here's one thats somehow even worse...

















with that, I present you...



































Alabaman Kal!
http://i4.photobucket.com/albums/y115/tgirlcori/Kal.jpg
"Hey babe, ya wanna have my webfooted retarded kids?"My dear GOD:eek::eek::eek::eek: The shame.:(

[twylight]

Wow, look at the class who used to post in these forums!

TMOB! :eek: ;)

....I never got into Legion....

You have now. ;)

Anyway, on the topic of the thread.

I have to say I love this series. I picked up #6 early this yearand then I went back and bought all the back issues.
I'm a little dissapointed in the way they seem to spotlight the certain characters. It's mostly Cosmic Boy, Brainy and Invisible kid.
I hope they put a little bit more variety into it sometime.

But all in all It's one of my favorite comics.

[Varient]

I was a big fan of Mike Grells Legion,.....
This new group,... Eh,... I'll give it six more issues.

[Lackey]

Wow, look at the class who used to post in these forums!

TMOB! :eek: ;)



Yup, only the cream of the crop read Legion ;)

[Lackey]

Interview with Mark Waid about LoSH

Part 1 (http://www.newsarama.com/forums/showthread.php?threadid=45372)

Part 2 (http://www.newsarama.com/dcnew/Legion/Waid_LegionII.htm)

[Ultimate_Superman]

I am a big fan of Superboy and the Legion of Super-heroes (the real Teen Titans):mad:

[Anubis]

Well what do you know. Aint this a b***h. I put Legion of Superheros in the search and this didn't come up at all, so now I look like an idiot for making another one. :o Still say mines was better...:(

[Dr.Fear]

its been a good run so far. issue 10 was great. but i kinda feel the series has been a bit lagging on the adventures part. i was looking forward to more action and ground breaking storylines. but this fits the bill quite nicely.

[Anubis]

I've been loving it. After I read issue 10 I went back and re-read the rest of the run up until now and it's been pretty damn intense. I figure you'll get your action in the next couple of issues though.

[twylight]

I love the direction they're taking the characters. While I miss the old versions and in many ways preferred them to this new re-boot. I have to admit that it's refreshing to read this series.

As for the latest issue, the whole Imra thing was very interesting, completely threw me for a loop.
Same with the way it ended, I hate how they taunt us.

[Anubis]

Damn, don't get my comics until Monday.

[TheCorpulent1]

I was glad about Imra's "condition." It makes sense for a planet full of telepaths to have unused, basically vestigial vocal cords. I can't imagine the spoken word would be anywhere near as expressive as beaming your thoughts directly into someone else's head.

Brainy's storyline is interesting. Dream Girl was kind of flaky so I don't really miss her, but I'm glad to see Brainy so affected by something. He's been a bit robotic with his lack of all emotion except consummate arrogance. I'm looking forward to the end of this Praetor Lemnos arc to see what else Waid has in store, too.

[Anubis]

I liked Dream Girl. She was good at bringing Brainy down a peg. They played quite well off of each other. Kinda shocked she didn't know her own death was coming though.

[Dope Nose]

any more news on the rumor of the Legion being relaunched yet again under Jim Shooter?

[Anubis]

That doesn't sound like a very good idea.

[Dope Nose]

Rich Johnston mentioned it in Lying in the Gutters a couple of weeks ago or so, and someone on the DC boards is claiming to have received confirmation after running into Keith Giffen in a comic shop. supposedly it would retcon Supergirl's involvement with the title among other things.

[r8hitman]

Does anybody have any solo pics of Ultra-Boy, Superboy, and Mon-El??

[04nbod]

Does anybody have any solo pics of Ultra-Boy, Superboy, and Mon-El??

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Ultra_Boy
superboy- take your pic http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Superboy
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Mon-El
there will be links off there that will go to more stuff i assume

[r8hitman]

Thanks, but I went there already. I was looking for something a little different.
(That's my fault. I should have been more specific in my post.)

Is there a website available that would have a wide variety of pics featuring these individuals?

Finding Wolverine, Spiderman, Superman, Batman, WonderWoman etc. is really easy, but I cant seem to find any featuring these three.:huh:

[batnkevlar]

So now that Supergirl's the leader of the LoSH, when do you think she's gonna leave the future?

[TheCorpulent1]

Soon, hopefully. Unless she's a few years older when she returns to the past, which would suck.

[Lane & Kent]

Hey guys are they really going to reboot The Legion again. If so I hope the new series is called "Young Superman and the Legion of Super-heroes"
with the young Kal-El as a menber of the Legion

[Anubis]

I don't.

[TheCorpulent1]

But you seem so fond of the Silver Age Legion redux in JSA. :confused:

[Anubis]

Doesn't mean I wanna see it called "Young Superman and the Legion of Superheroes"

Legion of Superheroes would suffice.

[TheCorpulent1]

You're such a poster child for DC's "Silver Age--NOW!" campaign. :o

[Anubis]

I thought I was the poster child for Apathy?

The thing is, I don't care. As long as it entertains me. I don't got any hang ups about characters or ages or whatever. Entertain me, and i'll buy it. I could give a rats ass if it's the current Legion (Which has been very good under Waid) or the Silver Age version.

[Conan]

Then again if they do bring back Kon-El (Conner Kent) he could always rejoin the group. I mean he was a member of the group for a couple of months before the restart.

[TheCorpulent1]

They're not bringing Conner back.
I thought I was the poster child for Apathy?

The thing is, I don't care. As long as it entertains me. I don't got any hang ups about characters or ages or whatever. Entertain me, and i'll buy it. I could give a rats ass if it's the current Legion (Which has been very good under Waid) or the Silver Age version.
When a comic does stuff like swapping one team out for another or just invalidating years of stuff wholesale, it makes me wonder why I'm even bothering to read it.

[Anubis]

....For the enjoyment of the story? I mean, unless you're some kinda comic book historian, why should you bother getting your panties in a bunch? We got wars, people dying of aids in Africa, transsexual porn stars committing suicide! And yet, you pick THIS s**t to Jap out on?

[TheCorpulent1]

I generally don't care much about real world stuff. I listen to the news and keep up with what's going on, but ultimately it doesn't really evoke any passion from me.

Fictional history, on the other hand, does. Maybe my brain's wired wrong or something, but I think about how things in comics fit together with stuff that's come before more than I do about the news.

[batnkevlar]

Aww man, I hope they don't restart it... the current run's great... and how many times can you retcon the Legion?

[Anubis]

As many times as it takes for it to sell like it did back in the 70's again.

I generally don't care much about real world stuff. I listen to the news and keep up with what's going on, but ultimately it doesn't really evoke any passion from me.

Fictional history, on the other hand, does. Maybe my brain's wired wrong or something, but I think about how things in comics fit together with stuff that's come before more than I do about the news.


Me neither, though I generally put most of my attention towards porn and hookers, but you know, that's just me.

[TheCorpulent1]

Aww man, I hope they don't restart it... the current run's great... and how many times can you retcon the Legion?
That's what DC aims to find out. ;)

[3dman27]

Silence! Those "lame" kids starred in one of the best books The Silver Age ever saw. :mad:

amen to that:ninja:

[TheCorpulent1]

New artist on LoSH:

http://forum.newsarama.com/showthread.php?t=124788

http://www.newsarama.com/Chicago_07/DC/SGLEG-Cv38.jpg
http://www.newsarama.com/Chicago_07/DC/legion1.jpg

I like his overall style and the majority of the costumes, but I don't know about Brainy's. He looks like he's going on safari.

Given how prominent the Silver Age Karate Kid is now becoming, I'm wondering if he'll be transplanted into the ongoing LoSH's world. The dude in that preview pic is wearing his costume.

[3dman27]

probably only the costume

[Anubis]

Not bad.

[yenaled]

http://liam.dovka.org/matter-eater.jpg

don't **** with matter-eater lad!

[Anubis]

Ha

He bit his f**king finger off! Awesome. :up:

[Tropico]

New artist on LoSH:

http://forum.newsarama.com/showthread.php?t=124788

http://www.newsarama.com/Chicago_07/DC/SGLEG-Cv38.jpg


WTF? Oh-kaaaaay. Some costumes are improvements while others....suck. Some are obvious remakes of the Cockrum era but in a sucky way. Saturn Girl's bikini on top of clothes? WHY?!

http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v661/DDude/3-1.jpg

And Timber Wolf reminds me of Benimaru from King of Fighters and thats' NOT a good thing. Cham in chainmail? What? Did they use that old Elseworld's Annual where the Legion were like King Arthur and his round table? I gotta agree that the Brainy overalls should have stayed in the Silver Age era. And the symbol on his chest is always associated with the Computer Tyrants which fills me with dread.:(

Invisible Kid is an improvement and Phantom Girl's updated Cockrum costume was done well. The others are pretty ok. Yeah, I know I'm late for this rant. so sue me!!:p

[Xplicit Content]

Jim Shooter is officially the other half of the new creative team. Can't wait for their first issue. Francis' take on the characters is great. There are more sketches included in the Shooter interview.

http://forum.newsarama.com/showthread.php?t=128352

[TheCorpulent1]

WTF? Oh-kaaaaay. Some costumes are improvements while others....suck. Some are obvious remakes of the Cockrum era but in a sucky way. Saturn Girl's bikini on top of clothes? WHY?!

http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v661/DDude/3-1.jpg

And Timber Wolf reminds me of Benimaru from King of Fighters and thats' NOT a good thing. Cham in chainmail? What? Did they use that old Elseworld's Annual where the Legion were like King Arthur and his round table? I gotta agree that the Brainy overalls should have stayed in the Silver Age era. And the symbol on his chest is always associated with the Computer Tyrants which fills me with dread.:(

Invisible Kid is an improvement and Phantom Girl's updated Cockrum costume was done well. The others are pretty ok. Yeah, I know I'm late for this rant. so sue me!!:p
Yeah, I had a pretty even mix of costume redesigns that I liked and disliked in that preview.

Liked:

Starboy
Light Lass
Shadow Lass
Phantom Girl
Saturn Girl (I think the bikini looks pretty good over a red jumpsuit)
Colossal Boy/Micro-Lad
Karate Kid
Invisible Kid

Disliked:

Brainiac 5
Timber Wolf (it looks like he's wearing a girl's costume to me)
Lightning Lad (his costumes always look boring when they lack white)
Chameleon Boy
Element Lad (white, red, and yellow just don't look good in those proportions)
Ultra Boy (to be fair, I don't think I've ever liked one of his costumes)
Sun Boy (not sure on this, actually, but it looks like he's wearing a jacket and tights, which I don't think really makes sense for a guy who generates heat)

[The Leaguer]

Karate Kid looks like a f***head.

[Tropico]

Yeah, I had a pretty even mix of costume redesigns that I liked and disliked in that preview.

Liked:

Starboy (An upgrade would've been good. And his stayed the same.)
Light Lass
Shadow Lass
Phantom Girl
Saturn Girl (I think the bikini looks pretty good over a red jumpsuit) (Bleagh!)
Colossal Boy/Micro-Lad
Karate Kid
Invisible Kid

Disliked:

Brainiac 5
Timber Wolf (it looks like he's wearing a girl's costume to me) (Exactly! The Benimaru character I mentioned uses a woman's shirt. Think Power Girl's current top without sleeves.)
Lightning Lad (his costumes always look boring when they lack white) (Completely agree!)
Chameleon Boy
Element Lad (white, red, and yellow just don't look good in those proportions)
Ultra Boy (to be fair, I don't think I've ever liked one of his costumes)
Sun Boy (not sure on this, actually, but it looks like he's wearing a jacket and tights, which I don't think really makes sense for a guy who generates heat)

Element lad had some cool costumes that had only black and white. Heck, even the one with pink I like better than this one.
Ultra Boy is one of the characters I most like, but I have to agree that this current costumes is one of his worst ones. I liked his kinda civilian look when he was an adult.
Sun Boy has been rather unfortunate in the costume dept. I'd have to see this one closer up, but the guy has been very unlucky. The costume they made for his batch SW6/Legionnaires version was VERY good, though.

Heh, I came across this looking for an image of Ultra Boy's costume. Pervs...:woot::p

http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v661/DDude/00.gif

[TheCorpulent1]

Haha, Ultra Boy and Clark check dudes out with their X-ray visions.

Ultra Boy was really more powerful than Clark back then? That's kind of cool.

This Newsarama interview (http://forum.newsarama.com/showthread.php?t=128352) with Jim Shooter has more pictures of Sun Boy's new costume. It is indeed a jacket with tights.

[Cosmic]

I dropped this title from my pull list, today. I like the art, and the drama between the team members, but overall, it just felt like it was falling far short of what it could potentially be.

[The Leaguer]

It certainly isn't what it was under Waid, but Shooter's run has still kicked ass.

[IzzyJG99]

I always felt the Legion was a little too wimpy to be the big and tough protectors of the Universe in the 31st century.

[Arkady Rossovich]

I heard some of the stories from the 1970's were fantastic.

[Assassin]

Geoff Johns' legion in action comics is better!

[RogueDK]

I heard some of the stories from the 1970's were fantastic.


They were. Lucky for me I still have most of mine stashed away somewhere...

[Aristotle]

Geoff Johns' legion in action comics is better!Yeah, but it also shouldn't exist.

[UK_Stu]

I heard some of the stories from the 1970's were fantastic.

Probably my favourite incarnation of the legion. Problem was the comics became too much like a soap opera - more and more legionnaires, legionnaire's getting married to one another, getting into relationships, breaking up, teen angst, coping with sexual/racial tensions and discrimination - and not enough saving the galaxy :cmad:

[Kenda Man]

Geoff Johns' legion in action comics is better!

lol Stone Boy in the Legion of Substitutes was awesome with the peace signs doing his stone thing.

[Cosmic]

It certainly isn't what it was under Waid, but Shooter's run has still kicked ass.
Well, I don't think that it's bad, but it's definitely not kicking ass. I find it pretty mediocre, myself. I can't justify keeping it on my pull list any longer.

Geoff Johns' legion in action comics is better!
Well, the writing in Action Comics is superior to most stuff in general, IMO.

lol Stone Boy in the Legion of Substitutes was awesome with the peace signs doing his stone thing.
Yeah, that was great. They tossed a little humor into the mix, and it worked out really well.

[TheCorpulent1]

Waid found a way to make Supergirl interesting during his run. That alone means he's a better writer than just about everyone else at DC.

[The Leaguer]

Waid cheated and completely changed her personality. As far as I'm concerned, the Supergirl in Legion was a completely character than everywhere else in DC.

[TheCorpulent1]

Normally that would suck, but since the Supergirl found everywhere else in the DC universe is a horrendous *****, it worked for me.

[sandwraith]

Didn't Jeph Loeb make it a point to make Supergirl a horrendous *****? And have her fight Power Girl, a copy of herself, Power Girl again, Supergirl from the 60's, Power girl....God I hated that book...

[TheCorpulent1]

I don't know what Loeb was trying to do with Supergirl. I think he honestly must've just tried to come up with the absolute worst traits of all snotty, obnoxious teenagers everywhere and somehow combine them into a superhero. I can't conceive of any other way Supergirl could've turned out so amazingly annoying.

[Themanofbat]

There is an "official" LoSH thread, for the guy who started one to complain about the book...

:yay:

:csad:

[Cosmic]

I was aware of the "official" thread, but I didn't feel the need to dig up a discussion that ended over a half of a year ago...to announce that I was dropping a book from my pull list. So I started a new thread. If I have anything else to say about the issue, I'll post it there. If that's not okay with you, then contact the site admin and see if he'd be willing to launch a new forum for whatever "official" topics you want to keep reserved to single threads.

[SuGarRush]

Really? Seriously? No one else likes this book?
I've been reading it and loving it every month. The guys at my shop love it to.
I had never read legion before the reboot. ( That is a lie, I suffered through a couple issues with Supergirl and HATED IT, I LOATHE Supergirl) but now that Supergirl is gone, this book is just rocking my socks.

[yenaled]

Waid actually wrote a great Supergirl, go back and check out the TPB's.

[IzzyJG99]

LoSH has always been garbage. All this title ever told me is "By the year 3100 all of the superheroes in the Universe are emo angsty teenagers."

[Themanofbat]

lol... nah, I'm cool... I didn't know if you were aware, and I know they like to keep topics within the same threads to avoid cluttering up the boards, but it didn't bother me in the least.

Though I am disappointed at the lack of posting in this thread, considering what's going on with the Legion currently...

:huh: :huh: :huh:

:csad:

[Themanofbat]

LoSH has always been garbage. All this title ever told me is "By the year 3100 all of the superheroes in the Universe are emo angsty teenagers."

You've obviously didn't read any Legion stories from the late 70's/early 80's... :cmad: :cmad: :cmad:

:csad:

[TheCorpulent1]

Yeah, they were emo, angsty adults by then. ;)

[Varient]

lol... nah, I'm cool... I didn't know if you were aware, and I know they like to keep topics within the same threads to avoid cluttering up the boards, but it didn't bother me in the least.

Though I am disappointed at the lack of posting in this thread, considering what's going on with the Legion currently...

:huh: :huh: :huh:

:csad:

I've noticed that is a comic is done "right", But is not "outstanding" or "crappy" in some way,... you don't read it here.

LOS has gone thru some serious changes over the last three years,.. I'm happy that it's reverting back to something I recognize.

V.

[Arkady Rossovich]

Is it possible to find a Legion paperback? I don't think I've ever really seen one..

[fifthfiend]

Waid cheated and completely changed her personality. As far as I'm concerned, the Supergirl in Legion was a completely character than everywhere else in DC.

That was the only possible way anybody could have made Supergirl an interesting character.

EDIT: I actually take that back cause there was that one issue of the Brave and the Bold which Waid wrote starring Supergirl as the obnoxious Super***** we all know and loathe and she was still more interesting in that than any other comic she'd been in. So I guess the moral is just Waid = infinity times better than Loeb at everything, ever.

I don't know what Loeb was trying to do with Supergirl. I think he honestly must've just tried to come up with the absolute worst traits of all snotty, obnoxious teenagers everywhere and somehow combine them into a superhero. I can't conceive of any other way Supergirl could've turned out so amazingly annoying.

I think he just got an actual 13-year-old girl to write the comic for him.

"Supergirl shows up and she's Superman's favoritest person EVAR! And then like Wonder Woman shows up and she's like 'Supergirl is too Super-cool for you Stupid man she's going to join the Amazons and learn to KICK ASS!' An' then Darkseid tries to brainwash her and she gets a super-cool Evil Chick costume but then she's like 'nuh uh you can't brainwash mes cause I'm SUPERGIRL!' and then Batman PUNCHES DARKSEID IN TEH FACE OMG!!!!! And Superman and Supergirl race and Supergirl beats him cause she's like the coolest ever and then Supergirl beats up the entire JLA and like Nightwing TOTALLY has a crush on her omg he's totally hawt!"

[Aristotle]

I had never read legion before the reboot. ( That is a lie, I suffered through a couple issues with Supergirl and HATED IT, I LOATHE Supergirl) but now that Supergirl is gone, this book is just rocking my socks.So you hadn't read it before the creative team changed, you mean? I don't think it's a reboot. Just a fairly substantial change in creative direction.

[TheCorpulent1]

Is it possible to find a Legion paperback? I don't think I've ever really seen one..
I have a paperback from the Abnett and Lanning era. Foundations, it's called. It's mostly about Superboy (Connor) getting stuck in the future and how the different Legionnaires react to him. The conflict between Connor and Cos was pretty cool. Cos loses his respect for Connor when he realizes he's just a childish screw-up.

[Anubis]

There were some great stories supposedly from that post zero hour era, like when Live Wire (Lightning Lad) died. Or when Element Lad went nuts. I've only heard of these stories, never actually read them, but what I heard sounded promising. Too bad they haven't' collected much from that era.

[TheCorpulent1]

Foundations covers some of the aftermath of both of those things you mentioned, with Lightning Lad's spirit somehow hopping into Element Lad's body and a romantic conflict ensuing because Saturn Girl doesn't know how to act around him and all. Mostly, I liked the DnA era for X-S, 'cause every good team needs a speedster, and for helping to mature Conner Kent considerably.

[Anubis]

Yeah, I read some of those when they came out. Loved that Titans/Legion crossover which effectively ended that whole era. Something just sounds so awesome about a Fatal Five Hundred versus the Legion/and Titans. Theres really no way they should have won.

[TheCorpulent1]

Heh, yeah, that was a cool arc.

[Anubis]

With this new mini coming, and the sudden resurgence of the Legion, they really need to get off their asses and get the rest of that stuff out in trade or something.

[TheCorpulent1]

Yeah, that'd be nice. I may actually get the new Legion mini, even though I initially hated the idea of it. I suspect the more modern versions of existing characters are ultimately going to be replaced wholesale with their Silver Age counterparts, which kind of sucks, but if it also gets people like X-S back into the picture, it might be worth it. Can't go wrong with Perez art, either.

[Anubis]

Hopefully, we'll get an amalgamation of all three. In a perfect world we'd get XS, Waid Brainy, and Silver Age Karate Kid all on one team. In a perfect world....

[TheCorpulent1]

That would be pretty awesome. Only, y'know, the Silver Age Karate Kid's dead and all. :o I'd need Waid Cos on there, too. Maybe DnA Lightning Lad and Invisible Kid.

[Anubis]

Pfft, he's too badass to let death stop him.

[TheCorpulent1]

I could totally see him dropkicking Neron's ass.

God, the Waid KK was such a pussy compared to him.

[twylight]

Waid cheated and completely changed her personality. As far as I'm concerned, the Supergirl in Legion was a completely different character than everywhere else in DC.

It wasn't just your concern, it was a different character, and far more completely rounded than in any of the other writings in DC at the time.

I admit to still reading this book and I enjoy it for the same reason I enjoyed all the other Legions books. It's different. Each incarnation is different and so you get this complexity and the ability to compare/contrast with it, that you don't in other comics. Because you can't totally change a character's history like you can with the Legion.

I admit that it's not my -favorite- incarnation. But it keeps me interested, and so far the plots have held me.

[Themanofbat]

I've noticed that is a comic is done "right", But is not "outstanding" or "crappy" in some way,... you don't read it here.

LOS has gone thru some serious changes over the last three years,.. I'm happy that it's reverting back to something I recognize.

V.

Being a little kid reader of Shooter's Legion in the 70's, it's been a great read thus far...

:yay:

[twylight]

I'll try actually posting in the comic forums, now that I'm getting my comics more than once a month. :p

And yes, I am very impressed with the direction the Legion is going. :) I am such a youngling I had to go look up Shooter... But it made reading it even more interesting after I knew he had history with the Legion.

[TheCorpulent1]

The additions to the "Waid Legion" (which needs a different name, come to think of it) since Waid left have mostly sucked. Matter Eater Lad is some slick lawyer and Wildfire is an assassin. Meh.

[yenaled]

Don't they call Waid's Legion the Threeboot?

Not that it is a better name.

[TheCorpulent1]

I was never sure what Threeboot referred to. I thought it might've been the post-Zero Hour Legion.

[Aristotle]

Threeboot is the Waid Legion. Reboot is the DnA Legion. Everything from Silver Age up through the Giffen Legion is the original Legion.

[TheCorpulent1]

Where does Zero Hour fit in there?

[SuperMonkey]

Don't think I've picked this up since.... late '80s....... what's it like now?

[Aristotle]

Where does Zero Hour fit in there?The Zero Hour reboot led to the incarnation of the Legion that I (and others) call the DnA Legion, since DnA are the creators most often associated with it.

[TheCorpulent1]

Oh, okay. That's the one that introduced XS and Monstress and all those people, right?

[Aristotle]

Yeahr.

[Cosmic]

Don't think I've picked this up since.... late '80s....... what's it like now?Mediocre and stale, like a weak imitation of Uncanny X-Men.

[Anubis]

Really went to hell after Waid left.

[RockSP]

I bought like the first year under Waid but was underwhelmed and dropped it.

Picked it back up when Shooter came on board. Pretty good so far.

[Anubis]

Yeah, but you suck. So theres that. :o :p

[The Leaguer]

Matter Eater Lad as the lawyer was one of the coolest things I've read in the entire series.

[yenaled]

I liked Matter-Eater.

http://liam.dovka.org/comixz/matter-eater.jpg

:D

[The Leaguer]

God that scene kicked ass.