Cast "Sin City: Hell and Back".........

[Darko]

The Main Two Characters.

Wallace- I think Christian Bale wouldn't be a bad Wallace, neither would Orlando Bloom.:cool:
http://www.staciwilson.com/ROF/Christian_Bale3a.jpg
http://www.alicia-logic.com/capsimages/pc_219OrlandoBloom.jpg

Esther- Esther Baxter!!!!!:p J/K. Someone young and talented, not to mention beautiful, like Gabrielle Union or Meagon Good.
http://www.rci.rutgers.edu/~mkstyles/girlpics/gabrielle1.jpg
http://www.leesmovieinfo.net/images1/wboprofile/MeaganGood010.jpg

as for the other characters.

Purvis-Steve Buscemi

Scientist#1-John Malkovich

Scientist#2- _ _ _ _ _ _

Manson- _ _ _ _ _ _

Manson's partner Bundy-

Corrupt Cop Liebowitz-James Gandolphini

Delia- _ _ _ _ _ _

Jerry- Michael Rosenbaum

Manute-Michael Clarke Duncan

Assassin/Sniper- Danny Trejo

Maxine- _ _ _ _ _ _

Liebowitz's Son, Josh- Scott Mouter

Mariah- Nikki Cox

Herr Walanquist- _ _ _ _ _ _

[Boss]

Johnny Depp I say!

*HEAR HEAR*

[Darko]

For who?

[Boss]

For Who?

FOR ESTHER DAMMIT!!

No, for Wallace.

y'know, from the beginning it was gonna be Hell & Back, and Johnny Depp signed on ?

[Darko]

Did He???? hmm....that's interesting. He would definitely work for Wallace though.

[strangelove]

ditch Gabrielle Union and Orlando Bloom and i'll co-sign.
there was talks about Depp being affiliated with Hell and Back
but i'm not sure how solid the talks were if anything was agreed.
the dude would make a great main char.

[Darko]

agreed. Depp would work, he's just a bit older now and seems real busy.

[Boss]

Yes, And He's Stuck in a lot of Chocolate right now.

[Darko]

LOL^ Depp looks pale as f**k in da teaser poster too.

[Boss]

Yeap, hope he doesnt SCARE the children in the movie.

But if i know Burton, he'll make something in the middle...

[Kade]

Depp for Wallace, and the orange chick, I've forgot her name, should Eva Mendes play. The scientist with the creepy needle, Ed Harris. No doubt.

[Darko]

Depp for Wallace, and the orange chick, I've forgot her name, should Eva Mendes play. The scientist with the creepy needle, Ed Harris. No doubt.
The name was Mariah.:):up:

[Kade]

Aa, cool. Mariah then.

[Kade]

And the corrupt cop should be played by Gary Busey.

[Darko]

Be specific on which corrupt cop LOL.:D;)

[Kade]

Liebowitz 'course. Also, the short story "Daddy's Little Girl" shoudl be the intro to Sin City 2.

[Darko]

Liebowitz needs to be bald. Busey isnt. Is he bald and round now??

[Kade]

Nah. But they could make him.

[Darko]

That's true. Nick Stahl is a perfect example.

[Kade]

Yeah.

[Darko]

I can picture Busey as Liebowitz now, now Gandolphini however, wouldn't require any prostatics. Cheaper for production.;)

[Nancy Callahan]

Becky: An Old Town prostitute. She is working for the Colonel, mainly due to the fact the Colonel holds her mother hostage.

The Colonel: Shadowy crime boss seen only occasionally. He seems to be involved in everything, including assassination, vice, kidnapping, and smuggling. He works for Wallenquist.

Is Becky bad?

[Darko]

She is a treacherous little b***h, yes. Gail and the oldtown girls couldv'e protected her mom, it was the insane amount of cash they offered her that led to the inevitable betrayal of young Becky, and in TBFK she gave them Gail, who had to be exchanged for Jacky-Boy's head....

[Nancy Callahan]

I'm confused..

[Darko]

I'm confused..

To make it simple. Yes, Becky is evil and bad. :)

[Robozilla]

Wallace - Johnny Depp (long rumored for the role, mentioned by RR previously)
Esther - Gabrielle Union is young and voluptious, perfect for the role
Delia - not sure

[Darko]

Halle Berry should be Delia or Ava Lord. :p

[Nancy Callahan]

Marsha Thomason should play Esther...unless they want someone younger, they should go with someone like Gabrielle.

[Darko]

Marsha Thomason should play Esther...unless they want someone younger, they should go with someone like Gabrielle.

She is young enough. SHe definitely looks good, Marsha Thomason would work fine.:up:

[Nancy Callahan]

Yeah, she's really pretty.

Would they devot the whole film to Hell and Back or could they mix other stories in?

[Darko]

Yeah, she's really pretty.

Would they devot the whole film to Hell and Back or could they mix other stories in?
"A Dame To Kill For" would most likely be attached if a sequel is officially announced. Hopefully "Hell and Back" is attached as well.:D

[Nancy Callahan]

i haven't read either yet.. i feel very behind all of you

[Darko]

Don't feel behind.:( We will catch you up to speed if you're lost.:D:up:

[Boss]

I think that the sequel will have more of a "Femme Fatale" direction, like Kade said;

daddy's little Girl for intro

and then a mix of Adtkf and HAB.

Theres only dangerous Dames in those!

[Nancy Callahan]

Don't feel behind.:( We will catch you up to speed if you're lost.:D:up:
Everywhere I go they're sold out...i'll just order em online.

[Darko]

Everywhere I go they're sold out...i'll just order em online.

great idea.:up:

[Postman]

Am I the only one that didn't really like Hell and Back? I think it's one of the weaker books from the collection.

[Darko]

I think "Hell And back" didn't measure up to "AdKTf" or "TBFK" either, but it's still a good read even though the ending was a bit screwy....

Oh, and Christian Bale or Johnny Depp for Wallace!!!

[Keyser Soze]

Liebowitz is being played by fab character actor Jude Ciccolella in "Sin City".

[Darko]

We know.:up:

[Kade]

Hell And Back is the most epic Sin City tale...I liked it alot. And no Henri Ducard, A Dame To Kill For isn't the most epic one...=)

[Kade]

This is how I would see SIN CITY 2

Intro: Daddy's Little Girl

Story 1: A Dame To Kill For

Story 2: Family Values

Story 3: Hell And Back

[Darko]

I am sure if there will be a sequel, "Hell and Back" will definitely be the basis of the movie, "ADKTF" should also be in the sequel, maybe played before "Family Values" to avoid confusion with the Post-op Dwight. While I wouldn't mind "Daddy's Little Girl" for the intro, (which perfectly showed us how the temptations of SIN where implemented in this movie), I think we still need some story with Marv and why not give him a smashing epilogue like "Just Another Saturday Night" or "Silent Night" to kick things off.:)

[Boss]

Hell And Back is the most epic Sin City tale...I liked it alot. And no Henri Ducard, A Dame To Kill For isn't the most epic one...=)
Well, that's your opinion :o

[Kade]

I am sure if there will be a sequel, "Hell and Back" will definitely be the basis of the movie, "ADKTF" should also be in the sequel, maybe played before "Family Values" to avoid confusion with the Post-op Dwight. While I wouldn't mind "Daddy's Little Girl" for the intro, (which perfectly showed us how the temptations of SIN where implemented in this movie), I think we still need some story with Marv and why not give him a smashing epilogue like "Just Another Saturday Night" or "Silent Night" to kick things off.:)

I think you know, Marv is in A Dame To Kill For, that's enough. The ending for HAB would be perfect for the movie.

[Crashorama]

I know he is Batman (he will own that role) but Bale is a great choice for Wallace. (Great character)

[Darko]

I know he is Batman (he will own that role) but Bale is a great choice for Wallace. (Great character)

My thoughts exactly.

[Boss]

Mm. First the ADTKF ending, then Wallace and e..thel.. riding out in the night That'll be great.

[Kade]

Open up with "Daddy's Little Girl", jump right into "A Dame To Kill For", have "Family Values" right after as a small little sequel, and then let us have the big epic Sergio Leone thing, "Hell And Back".=)

That should be the title also, "Sin City: Hell And Back", would be cool.

[TarantullaH]

I say Christopher Walken for the Colonel. And Depp for Wallace. Eva Mendes would be quite a nice Delia, and please keep Halle Berry away from any motion picture achievements for the next.. don´t know, 100 years?

[Kade]

Hey man, the Colonel is already casted, Josh hartnett. Any MAJOR Sin City knows this, the hitman in "The Customer Is Always Right" is the Colonel (Hence, hartnett).

[spiderfreek182]

whats the story for hell and back?

[Kade]

An old veteran, Wallace, saves a young girl from taking suicide. Then she gets kidnapped and Wallace is on to it.

[Boss]

I tried to change Hartnett's name from "The Salesman" to "The Colonel" on IMDB, but they wouldnt approve :(

[Kade]

Those F UCKERS

[TarantullaH]

Hey man, the Colonel is already casted, Josh hartnett. Any MAJOR Sin City knows this, the hitman in "The Customer Is Always Right" is the Colonel (Hence, hartnett).

Wait, I missed that. Come again? The Salesman and the colonel are the same person?

Anyway, I can´t really see Josh Hartnett fit the role, specially in Hell and Back.

[Kade]

I think Hartnett will fit...he's a much better actor than everyone says. Otherwise, I would cast Val Kilmer in the role.

[spideylover89]

I think they should just do HAB and ADTKF as the two main stories for the sequel because HAB is one of the longer Sin City books. Coupled with ADTKF it would take up planty of screen time. I would prefer them doing maybe like two main stories with a short for the intro instead of cutting 3 stories down to fit the 2 hour time.

[Kade]

Forget everything I've said, this is how I think Sin City 2 should look like:

Intro: Daddy's Little Girl

Jimmy - William H. Macy
Dad - Val Kilmer
Amy - Sarah Jessica Parker (erase lines to make her look younger)

A Dame To Kill For

Dwight - Clive Owen (buried in prostestics in the beginning)
Ava Lord - Maria Bello
Damien Lord - Jude Law (muscleees on him...)

Family Values
Dwight - Clive Owen
Miho - Devon Aoki
Girl that gives Dwight info behind the bar - Kristin Davis

Hell And Back

Wallace - Johnny Depp
Esther - Marsha Thomason
Purvis - Steve Buscemi
Delia - Kate Bosworth
Dr. Frederic - Ed Harris
Manute - Michael Clarke Duncan
Liebowitz - Ciccolella
Colonel - Ray Winstone
Mariah - Eva Mendes
Wallenquist - Brian Cox

Epilogue: Silent Night

Marv - Mickey Rourke
Cigar smoking chick - Lara Flynn Boyle

[Boss]

Whats with the Sex and the City ensemblé Kade? :p

[Kade]

Hah! You're right...ehem...let's see. TWO ACTORS out of 21 actors...mjem...=)

[spideylover89]

Forget everything I've said, this is how I think Sin City 2 should look like:

Intro: Daddy's Little Girl

Jimmy - William H. Macy
Dad - Val Kilmer
Amy - Sarah Jessica Parker (erase lines to make her look younger)

A Dame To Kill For

Dwight - Clive Owen (buried in prostestics in the beginning)
Ava Lord - Maria Bello
Damien Lord - Jude Law (muscleees on him...)

Family Values
Dwight - Clive Owen
Miho - Devon Aoki
Girl that gives Dwight info behind the bar - Kristin Davis

Hell And Back

Wallace - Johnny Depp
Esther - Marsha Thomason
Purvis - Steve Buscemi
Delia - Kate Bosworth
Dr. Frederic - Ed Harris
Manute - Michael Clarke Duncan
Liebowitz - Ciccolella
Colonel - Ray Winstone
Mariah - Eva Mendes
Wallenquist - Brian Cox

Epilogue: Silent Night

Marv - Mickey Rourke
Cigar smoking chick - Lara Flynn Boyle

I like that whole list except Kate Bosworth...I would prefer she stayed away from Sin City :yellow:

[Crashorama]

I don't know why, but I just don't buy Depp as Wallace.

[Kade]

I like that whole list except Kate Bosworth...I would prefer she stayed away from Sin City :yellow:

Who would you have instead then?

[Kade]

Who would you cast instead?

[Crashorama]

I don't know if that was directed at my remark about Jonny Depp, but I could see Christian Bale as Wallace.

[Capt Throbberson]

I don't know why, but I just don't buy Depp as Wallace.
Me niether

[TheBatboy]

I think Depp would be great!

[Nancy-Twin]

Both are awsome if Johnny couldn't do it (he's got alot of movies lately) Bale would be great!!! I would love to see him more scruffy looking anyway...he would own!

[Kade]

Depp is an awesome choice.

[ThePhenom]

I think Ava Lord requires a someone very particular. Either a big actress or a significant model.

My personal choices would be: Angelina Jolie or Alyssa Milano.

[Mr. McCarthy]

Maybe Halle Berry?

[Kade]

Halle Berry is like...black?

[Boss]

It's an intern joke. "Shooting Halle Berry for Catwoman"

[Nancy-Twin]

Ava Lord?...umm what no Maria Bello? Everyone kept posting her up everwhere on cast lists for the first Sin City

[Darko]

Halle Berry is like...black?

You didn't......know?

[spideylover89]

I think Ava Lord requires a someone very particular. Either a big actress or a significant model.

My personal choices would be: Angelina Jolie or Alyssa Milano.

Dude when I was reading ADTKF I thought the same thing, Angelina jolie would be perfect for Ava. She's got the look and she plays seductive and manipulative really well. I think she would be awesome for it :up:

[Kade]

You didn't......know?

I know. THat's why I found it oooodd, because Ava Lord is not black.

[Brucewayne777]

Speaking of people not knowing that Hartnets character was the dude from Hell and Back, Libowitz's character was the guy beating Hartigan to a bloody pulp in the movie. Minor character, but I thought he did a fine job, no need to re-cast him.:joker:

And if they are going to start with, "A Dame to Kill For", then "Hell and Back", I'd rather see them do "Blue Eyes" in between, then end with "The Babe Wore Red" instead of "Family Values". And if that's not enough story, then start with "Just Another Saturday Night", which would be cool, cause it overlaps "That Yellow Bastard" and they've already shot the seen.

[ConverseKiller]

Speaking of people not knowing that Hartnets character was the dude from Hell and Back, Libowitz's character was the guy beating Hartigan to a bloody pulp in the movie. Minor character, but I thought he did a fine job, no need to re-cast him.:joker:

Agreed, recasting is a bad idea when u have quality actors to play the parts

[Kade]

Speaking of people not knowing that Hartnets character was the dude from Hell and Back, Libowitz's character was the guy beating Hartigan to a bloody pulp in the movie. Minor character, but I thought he did a fine job, no need to re-cast him.:joker:

And if they are going to start with, "A Dame to Kill For", then "Hell and Back", I'd rather see them do "Blue Eyes" in between, then end with "The Babe Wore Red" instead of "Family Values". And if that's not enough story, then start with "Just Another Saturday Night", which would be cool, cause it overlaps "That Yellow Bastard" and they've already shot the seen.

To have Blue Eyes before HAB is pretty stupid...huge spoiler..

[Brucewayne777]

That's how the comics came out. And, I think that would build suspense, not spoil it. That's how Frank meant for it to be, and who are we to argue with him?

[Mr. McCarthy]

I know. THat's why I found it oooodd, because Ava Lord is not black.

I think Halle Berry would be an acception.

[MarvX]

Most of that cast I could see, he has worked with most of them I'm sure they would jump at the chance.

Bale would be awesome choice. That dude got soem skill, ever see The Machinist holy Skinny Batman, that movie rocked.

[RockSP]

Halle Berry is like...black?

No one seems to have a problem with Rosario as Gail...

[Edd Extraordinaire]

Rosario was a great Gail.

[RockSP]

Rosario was a great Gail.

Not saying she wasn't...just that Gail in the comics was white...at least I always thought so. So if Gail could change, so could Ava.

[Kade]

ROsario is not black. She's a latino..

[Boss]

Ava Lord cant be black. she's got to have that unbelievable sexy/manipulative look, which Berry lacks.

[RockSP]

ROsario is not black. She's a latino..

I know she is latina, the point is she's not white like Gail. So if that change is okay then Ava changing should be okay too.

[RockSP]

Ava Lord cant be black. she's got to have that unbelievable sexy/manipulative look, which Berry lacks.

Don't even know how to respond to this one. A black woman can't be unbelievably sexy or manipulative?

[Brucewayne777]

Seriously. Let me know if you can find someone as sexy as Halle Berry. Man, I think that Angelina is right for the role, but god damn. Halle is sexy as hell. I'd be happy as hell to see her as Ava. As a matter of fact, I 'd like to see her play anyone in Sin City.

[Boss]

Ava Lord cant be black. she's got to have that unbelievable sexy/manipulative look, which Berry lacks.

YIKES! that REALLY came out wrong! I'm talking bout Berry not being Suit for Ava Lord. -Im not a rasist.

And i wonder still, from the beginning it was just a joke so you could "shoot her" - but now its going in to a serious choice!

Still, Maria Bello is my choice for now;

http://www.villagefair.com/MelGibson/payback/images/maria.jpg

[Kade]

I think she's the best choice. She can be sexy too, look at "Coyote Ugly".

[Jackie Boy]

Wallace - Johnney Depp
Esther - Naomie Harris(28 days later) or Gabrielle Union(Bad Boys 2)
Delia - Charlize Theron with curly hair
The Colonel - Pierce Brosnan
Gordo - Ethan Suplee(Mallrats)
Mariah - Rene Russo(Get Shorty)
Liebowitz - Jude Ciccolella(already cast, he's the guy beating up Hartigan)
The Captain - Unknown
Jerry -Unknown
Peggy - Melanie Griffith
Doctor Fredric -Unknown
Josh Liebowitz-Unknown
Hannah Liebowitz -Unknown
Maxine -Unknown
Mrs. Mendoza -Unknown

[Jackie Boy]

oh yeah

Hitman shot though the eye - Christopher Walken

[TarantullaH]

Still, Maria Bello is my choice for now;

http://www.villagefair.com/MelGibson/payback/images/maria.jpg

Good choice, that is. She´s beautiful, and her screen presence is great. Just saw her at Assault on 13th D.P (is that the name?). She has no huge..uh.. assets, though, you know. Which Ava has. Well, CGI boobs?? Just kidding... but really?

[Kade]

assault on precint 13...

[Darko]

oh yeah

Hitman shot though the eye - Christopher Walken


I'd say Danny Trejo would work better.:up:

[ThePhenom]

I still think Johnny Depp is perfect for Wallace, maybe with some prosthetics to make him look a little seedier but otherwise perfect. If not Johnny Depp then I've got another idea. Colin Farrell with long hair and prosthetics, I think it could work.

http://img117.echo.cx/img117/7162/wallace1yc.jpg

[RockSP]

I still think Johnny Depp is perfect for Wallace, maybe with some prosthetics to make him look a little seedier but otherwise perfect. If not Johnny Depp then I've got another idea. Colin Farrell with long hair and prosthetics, I think it could work.

I'm curious as to what prosthetics you think would be needed (besides a wig). Wallace was just a normal unshaven dude IMO...

[ThePhenom]

I figured that just to make Colin Farrell look more like Wallace, like Benicio Del Toro already looked like Jackie Boy and they put prosthetics on him. I just mean subtle ones, also I don't think a wig's necessary Colin Farrell had grown his hair in for many movie roles.

[Kade]

Depp looks more like Wallace than Farrel. And Farrel is too cocky for Wallace..

[Nancy-Twin]

If only Aliayah were still alive she'd be a perfect Esther IMHO

[silentflute]

Jared Leto would pe perfect for Wallace.

It's also interesting to note that Wallace is almost the exact physical description of John Rambo in David Morrel's novel,First Blood.

[Kade]

Ehrm...very interesting...

[silentflute]

Ehrm...very interesting...

Isn't it though?

[ScottishFogg]

Hell and Back was originally going to be part of the (what is now) the first Sin City, with Depp attached as Wallace, but then it got cut.

[Kade]

No, it was just a rumour. Depp was offered the role of Jackie Boy, but he had to pass.

[Nivek]

I havn't read Hell and Back yet, but I can see Depp as this Wallace character. from what I seen in the book, and noting he enjoyed working with Rodrigez on OUATM, I think this is right up his Alley.


My concern is casting Maria Bello as Ava Lord. Personally, I think Selma Hayak would be perfect, especially given the body she has, over Maria Bello. remember, Ava is nude through quite a bit of ADTKF.

And the other thing I want is more Marv. Hell, open with Another Saturday Night, have him cameo with ADTKF, and have him close with the Santa Tale, or have Miller bookend with an all new Marv story.

[Kade]

Marv doesn't have a cameo in A Dame To Kill For. It's a good supporting role.

[Maxwinner]

Can someone post pics of the characters in hell and back!?I havent read it

[The Broox]

I havn't read Hell and Back yet, but I can see Depp as this Wallace character. from what I seen in the book, and noting he enjoyed working with Rodrigez on OUATM, I think this is right up his Alley.


My concern is casting Maria Bello as Ava Lord. Personally, I think Selma Hayak would be perfect, especially given the body she has, over Maria Bello. remember, Ava is nude through quite a bit of ADTKF.

And the other thing I want is more Marv. Hell, open with Another Saturday Night, have him cameo with ADTKF, and have him close with the Santa Tale, or have Miller bookend with an all new Marv story.

What is Santa Tale?

[Nivek]

The story out of Broads, Babes, and Bullets where he get'sa the little girl back from White Slavers.

[cerealkiller182]

^^^^I thought that was Silent Night, it be real cool if they made that short real slow with no sound except for a girl singing Silent Night (as if it was the little girl) and it stops when Marv comes in and he says his line and they walk into the background with the singing starting again.


Wallace- Eric Bana
The Detective- Michael Chiklis

[Iambaytor]

My question is... how are they gonna do that big color hallucination sequence when he gets drugged? Aren't there gonna be a lot of copyright deals and makeup work involved there?

[cerealkiller182]

My question is... how are they gonna do that big color hallucination sequence when he gets drugged? Aren't there gonna be a lot of copyright deals and makeup work involved there?

never thought of the copyrights before. Might be easy to get the rights to picture them for 30 seconds. Thats all it they would be in the movie for anyway.

[Iambaytor]

It would be cool if at the end of the hallucination when the captain turns into Hellboy, if they actually had Ron Perlman in full makeup.

[Mr. Socko]

Sin City: H&B sucked, I would certainly have doubts about seeing it in theaters.

[PhotoJones]

bale won't do it.

[Eddie Dean]

Sorry to bump this, but...

Wallace - Eric Bana
Esther - Gina Torres
Delia - Rebecca Romijn
Liebowitz - Michael Ironside
Captain - Ron Perlman
Doctor Frederic - Jeffrey Combs
Colonel - Josh Hartnett
Mariah - Jamie Luner
Manute - Michael Clarke Duncan
Wallenquist - Brian Cox
Jerry - Michael Biehn