"Susan's Garden": The Invisible Woman Threads Merged

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"Susan's Garden": The Discussion Thread For The Invisible Woman
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Welcome to the first official thread dedicated solely to Susan Storm Richards--the Invisible Woman of The Fantastic Four. Here, I would like to invite my awesome fellow Forum Members to discuss all things Invisible, in relation to Susan Storm (hint, hint): Her roles in film, TV, and in print. Let's talk about the live action actresses that have embodied this character over the years, the potential impact Susan Storm could have on women of the world when 2005 rolls around and her relationships with Reed, Ben, and Johnny. Also feel free to post your favorite pictures of this fantastic First Lady Of Marvel.

BIOGRAPHICAL DATA
Codename:The Invisible Girl
Real Name:Susan Storm-Richards
Sex:Female
Race:Human
Occupation:Adventurer
Identity: Publicly known
Legal Status:Citizen of the United States with no criminal record
Other Aliases:None
Place of Birth:Glenville, Long Island, New York
Marital Status:Married
Known Relatives:Franklin Storm - father; Mary Storm - mother; Jonathan Storm (Human Torch II) - brother; Reed Richards (Mr. Fantastic) - husband; Franklin Richards - son; Nathaniel Richards - father-in-law
Current Group Membership:The Fantastic Four
Former Group Membership:None
Base of Operations:The Baxter Building

PHYSICAL DESCRIPTION

Height:5' 6"
Weight:120 lbs
Eyes:Blue
Hair:Blond
Other Distinguishing Features:None
Strength Level:The Invisible Girl possesses the normal human strength of a woman of her age, height, and build who engages in regular exercise.

Known Superhuman Powers:The Invisible Girl possesses the psionic ability to manipulate ambient cosmic energy for the following effects. Can mentally bend light around herself without distortion to render herself invisible. Somehow, she enables light to penetrate her eyes so she can see while invisible.
Her body cells produce an unknown form of energy that she can mentally project around other persons or objects to render them invisible. Can use this energy to render visible persons and objects rendered invisible by other means, and energy that is normally invisible.
Her brain cells produce psionic force that she can project in relatively simple forms (rectangular planes, globes, cylinders, cones, domes, etc). Can mentally project protective force fields that are highly resistant to concussive force. Can travel through the air by projecting columns of psionic force beneath her.
Other Abilities:The Invisible Girl is a fair hand-to-hand combatant


*Note: Thanks to my buddy A1ant for the inspiration.

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To kick things off I'd like to make this point: Some people (including myself at one time) feel that Jessica Alba, although drop-dead gorgeous, is "too sexy" or exotic to play the role of Susan Storm. However, I think the casting choice is dead on, as shown in this picture comparisons I developed. Jessica possesses many of the same features--the full lips, the doe-eyes and the general facial structure--that artists have depicted for Susan in recent years.
http://img13.exs.cx/img13/559/SusanComp.jpg

The same can be said for the characteristics Jessica shares with actor Chris Evans ("Johnny Storm").
http://img86.exs.cx/img86/5121/JessieChris.jpg

Also, Susan's look has evolved many, many times over the years. At first, she was very modest, and simple--in the 60's. But as time has gone on, she's transcended that "damsel-in-distress" personna into one of Marvel's most striking beauties. The following is a gallery showcasing the various transformations Susan Storm Richards has undergone.

http://philippe.tromeur.free.fr/marvel/images/InvisibleWoman.jpg
http://perso.wanadoo.fr/encyclopedie.univers.marvel/Rubriques/Etat%20civil/Storm%20Susan_1.jpg
http://superherohype.com/nextraimages/may27intlposter1.jpg
http://members.aol.com/thefightingfury/whoclix/ig.gif
http://www.angelfire.com/tn2/avengers/images/Invisible_Woman.jpg

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Gallery II

http://www.pmkane.com/tomderenick/SueStorm.jpg
http://www.comicboards.com/fantasticfour/attachments/030405193904/70.jpg
http://www.intuitivewebdesigns.com/comics/graphics/ff/sue.jpg
http://www.fantasyisland2001.de/assets/images/Invisible_Girl.jpg

The last one is one of my favorites...;)

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http://www.psu.edu/dept/inart10_110/inart10/s_ff004b.jpghttp://ksacomics.com/fant/1/48.gif (http://ksacomics.com/fant/1/48b.htm)



http://ksacomics.com/key/2.gif (http://javascript<b></b>:history.back(1))http://img71.exs.cx/img71/3698/f4_031.jpgLike I posted on the Re: My First Official Thread (All pics are welcome) thread yesterday:
Damn, anyone who says that she doesn't resemble Sue has GOTTA look twice at those old original Silver Age comics.!
SHE LOOKS EERILY LIKE CLASSIC SUE STORM< IT'S ALMOST SCARY!

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The Invisible Woman Of Yesterday: Rebecca Staab (1994 "The Fantastic Four")
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The Invisible woman Of Today: Jessica Alba (2005 "Fantastic Four)
http://img71.exs.cx/img71/3424/f4_033.jpghttp://images.image-data.com/1/thumbs/23424/23424301.jpg
http://mico-media.com/photos/a/alba_jessica/Main_Pics/1.jpg
http://antiherocomics.com/images/TheInvisibleWoman.jpg

So for all those who are whining "But they got it right with the other chick from 1994", as you can see, nothing has been lost with the new millenium's version of The Invisible Woman. Just better.

[bweurk]

In France, her name is Jane Storm-Richards......yeah i know it is weird.... but there is worse.... Dr Doom is called Dr Fatalis

[Rebel_Ace]

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In France, her name is Jane Storm-Richards......yeah i know it is weird.... but there is worse.... Dr Doom is called Dr Fatalis:p What's the F4 called? Le quarte fantasique?

[bweurk]

:p What's the F4 called? Le quarte fantasique?

Les quatre fantastiques (the exact translation of fantastic four)

[bweurk]

and few years ago, Wolverine was still called Serval....

[bweurk]

but there is a reason...... the exact french translation of Wolverine is Glouton (Glutton).... would you find cool a Superhero called Glutton?

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On topic: Do you guys think it's pivotal that Jessica portrays a "maternal" side in this origin film? Part of me wants to see that, but part of me also feels that that is a quality she could develop more in the sequel, especially if Franklin is coming.

Don't get me wrong--I don't want to see The Jessica "Kick-Ass Girl" for the whole film, but some are caught up in this "She doesn't look 'motherly' enough." And I'm like, "Motherly' for WHO? She's more of a guardian of the group in the beginning than a mother figure. The "motherly" deal comes into play after she becomes Susan Richards--inspired by the roles of being a wife and motherhood.

I don't think it's a critical quality for this film.

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but there is a reason...... the exact french translation of Wolverine is Glouton (Glutton).... would you find cool a Superhero called Glutton?That's not fair......no one here's changing FANTOMAS' name....

[Head>On<Collider]

On topic: Do you guys think it's pivotal that Jessica portrays a "maternal" side in this origin film? Part of me wants to see that, but part of me also feels that that is a quality she could develop more in the sequel, especially if Franklin is coming.

Don't get me wrong--I don't want to see The Jessica "Kick-Ass Girl" for the whole film, but some are caught up in this "She doesn't look 'motherly' enough." And I'm like, "Motherly' for WHO? She's more of a guardian of the group in the beginning than a mother figure. The "motherly" deal comes into play after she becomes Susan Richards--inspired by the roles of being a wife and motherhood.

I don't think it's a critical quality for this film.Funny, I completely think she does has a motherly/ sisterly vibe to her. I mean, her facial expressions are perfect for this.

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Susan's Story

Susan Storm Richards
(known aliases include: Invisible Girl, Malice, Susan Benjamin)
Susan Storm is the eldest of the two children of Dr. Franklin and Mary Storm. She was born in Glenville, New York and was raised like most children, with the exception of one thing: her father was jailed for performing illegal medical procedures. When she was 12, she met Reed Richards (then 23) at her aunt's bording house. She was quite infatuated and tried to keep tabs on Reed for years to come.

As Susan grew older, she became interested in acting and got a few small television roles. Upon learning that Reed was moving to California, she left to pursue both of her dreams: Reed Richards and a career in Hollywood. She quickly captured Reed's heart and to pledge her faith in him, she offered her and her younger brother, Johnny, as human guinea pigs for his experimental rocket ship.

Sue was the first to find her super powers after the rocket crashed just outside of Central City, California. Initially, Sue could only become invisible at will; but over the years she gained the strength to render other objects invisible as well as create invisible force fields. Reed and his father, Nathaniel, have theorized the her powers stem from Hyperspace, giving her virtually a limitless supply of energy.
Shortly after the creation of the Fantastic Four, Susan designed their first uniforms. And not long afterwards she married Reed Richards and bore him a son, Franklin. Her first pregnancy was filled with complications, and she would have died if the remaining members of the FF borrow Annihilus' Cosmic Control Rod to save her life. Although her second pregnancy was not as life-threatening, their second child was believed to be still-born. This child, in reality, was transported into the future where she was born under unusual complications.

After Reed's apparent death, Sue took up leadership of the Fantastic Four. She quickly became more than a power to be reckoned with. After Reed's return however, she had been somewhat reluctant to give up her status of authority. Since her son was captured by Onslaught, and his powers severely depleted by creating and maintaining the Franklinverse, Susan seems to be returning to a more motherly role, hoping to raise her children in a more stable environment.

[Sardaukar]

So, did Alba use makeup to lighten her face for this role, or what?

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"Malice"--WHAT IS IT???
by Jeanne Burch
What is this thing? The entity known as Malice has possessed the bodies of Alison Blaire (the Dazzler), Wolverine, Rogue, Ororo (Storm), Lorna Dane (Polaris), Beatrice Conners, Alex Summers (Havok), and Sue Richards (the Invisible Woman). The Sue Richards' version of Malice appears to be a psychological manifestation of Sue's own dark side left over from the Infinity Wars; in any case, it is not the mutant of the same name that dogs the X-Folks.
First appearance: Well, something named Malice showed up in Jungle Action 8.
Died in: The mutant Malice was caught with nowhere to go in X-Factor 105. The alternate personality Malice...well, those alternate personalities never really die, do they?

Team affiliation: When in league with Mister Sinister, Malice was partial to Polaris of X-Factor (Uncanny X-Men 221-222) although left on her own she tried to destroy Polaris rather than be permanently tied to her (X-Factor 102-105). Malice was the field leader for Sinister's Marauders during the Mutant Massacre. The Invisible Woman attempted to integrate Malice into her own personality (Fantastic Four 368), which made her very cranky for a considerable period of time.
Powers: Malice is a strongly empathic entity with no known corporeal form. She specializes in disrupting the emotional center of the brain, emphasizing the emotions at the expense of rational thought. (This, incidentally, works for both versions of Malice...)

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So, did Alba use makeup to lighten her face for this role, or what?

:rolleyes:

Yep. And she applied a thin layer of make-up to her chest, arms and legs too. And Michael Jackson is her stylist.

http://img71.exs.cx/img71/3424/f4_033.jpg

[Kel]

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Jessica's BIO...
Born: 28 April 1981, Pomona, California, USA (age 23)
Birth Name: Jessica Marie Alba
Height: 5' 7" (1.70 m)
Nickname: Sky Angel
Also Known As: Jessica Alba / Jessica Marie Alba

Filmography:
1994Camp Nowhere (http://www7.jmazone.de/?file=jessica.php&page=camp)
1995Venus Rising (als Eve)
1996Too Soon For Jeff (als Christy)
1998P.U.N.K.S. (http://www7.jmazone.de/?file=jessica.php&page=punks)
1999Never Been Kissed (http://www7.jmazone.de/?file=jessica.php&page=nbk)
1999Idle Hands (http://www7.jmazone.de/?file=jessica.php&page=ih)
1999Paranoid (http://www7.jmazone.de/?file=jessica.php&page=paranoid)
2001The Sleeping Dictionary (http://www7.jmazone.de/?file=jessica.php&page=sd)
2003Honey (http://www7.jmazone.de/?file=jessica.php&page=honey)
2005Into the Blue (http://www7.jmazone.de/?file=jessica.php&page=itb)
2005Sin City (http://www7.jmazone.de/?file=jessica.php&page=sincity)
2005Fantastic Four (http://www7.jmazone.de/?file=jessica.php&page=fantasticfour)
2006Sonic
200?Surprise Party
200?Beautiful Killer
200?Fathom
200?The Wedding

TV Series
1994The Secret World of Alex Mack (http://www7.jmazone.de/?file=jessica.php&page=am)
1995 - 1997Flipper (http://www7.jmazone.de/?file=jessica.php&page=flipper)
1996Chicago Hope (http://www7.jmazone.de/?file=jessica.php&page=chicagohope)
1997Brooklyn South (http://www7.jmazone.de/?file=jessica.php&page=brooklynsouth)
1998Love Boat: The Next Wave (http://www7.jmazone.de/?file=jessica.php&page=loveboat)
1998Beverly Hills, 90210 (http://www7.jmazone.de/?file=jessica.php&page=beverlyhills)
2000 - 2002Dark Angel (http://www7.jmazone.de/?file=jessica.php&page=darkangel)
2003MAD TV (http://www7.jmazone.de/?file=jessica.php&page=madtv)2003
Rock Me Baby (http://www7.jmazone.de/?file=jessica.php&page=rmb)
2004Entourage (http://www7.jmazone.de/?file=jessica.php&page=ent)


Awards:
Nominated for Golden Globe. Another 5 wins & 10 nominations
ALMA Awards (http://pro.imdb.com/event/ev0000016/)
2002
• Nominated, ALMA AwardOutstanding Actress in a Television Series for James Cameron's Dark Angel (http://pro.imdb.com/title/tt0204993/) (2000)
2001
• Won, Special Achievement AwardBreakthrough Actress of the Year
• Nominated, ALMA AwardOutstanding Actress in a New Television Series for James Cameron's Dark Angel (http://pro.imdb.com/title/tt0204993/) (2000)
Academy of Science Fiction, Fantasy & Horror Films, USA (http://pro.imdb.com/event/ev0000004/)
2002
• Nominated, Saturn AwardBest Actress in a Television Series for James Cameron's Dark Angel (http://pro.imdb.com/title/tt0204993/) (2000)
2001
• Won, Saturn AwardBest Actress on Television for James Cameron's Dark Angel (http://pro.imdb.com/title/tt0204993/) (2000)
DVD Exclusive Awards (http://pro.imdb.com/event/ev0000861/)
2003
• Won, DVDX AwardBest Actress in a DVD Premiere Movie for The Sleeping Dictionary (http://pro.imdb.com/title/tt0242888/) (2003)
Golden Globes, USA (http://pro.imdb.com/event/ev0000292/)
2001
• Nominated, Golden GlobeBest Performance by an Actress in a TV-Series - Drama for James Cameron's Dark Angel (http://pro.imdb.com/title/tt0204993/) (2000)
TV Guide Awards (http://pro.imdb.com/event/ev0000664/)
2001
• Won, TV Guide AwardBreakout Star of the Year for James Cameron's Dark Angel (http://pro.imdb.com/title/tt0204993/) (2000)
• Nominated, TV Guide AwardActress of the Year in a New Series for James Cameron's Dark Angel (http://pro.imdb.com/title/tt0204993/) (2000)
Teen Choice Awards (http://pro.imdb.com/event/ev0000644/)
2004
• Nominated, Teen Choice AwardChoice Breakout Movie Star - Female for Honey (http://pro.imdb.com/title/tt0322589/) (2003)
• Nominated, Teen Choice AwardChoice Movie Actress - Drama/Action Adventure for Honey (http://pro.imdb.com/title/tt0322589/) (2003)
• Nominated, Teen Choice AwardChoice Movie Chemistry for Honey (http://pro.imdb.com/title/tt0322589/) (2003)
Shared With: Mekhi Phifer (http://pro.imdb.com/name/nm0001616/)
• Nominated, Teen Choice AwardChoice Movie Liplock for Honey (http://pro.imdb.com/title/tt0322589/) (2003)
Shared With: Mekhi Phifer (http://pro.imdb.com/name/nm0001616/)
2001
• Won, Teen Choice AwardTV - Choice Actress for James Cameron's Dark Angel (http://pro.imdb.com/title/tt0204993/) (2000)
Young Artist Awards (http://pro.imdb.com/event/ev0000716/)
2001
• Nominated, Young Artist AwardBest Performance in a TV Drama Series - Leading Young Actress for James Cameron's Dark Angel (http://pro.imdb.com/title/tt0204993/) (2000)
YoungStar Awards (http://pro.imdb.com/event/ev0000718/)
1998
• Nominated, YoungStar AwardBest Performance by a Young Actress in a Daytime TV Program for The New Adventures of Flipper (http://pro.imdb.com/title/tt0111964/) (1995)

Credited Years: 1994 - 2006

Biography
Born in Pomona, CA on April 28, 1981, Jessica and her family moved to Biloxi, Mississippi when she was an infant. Three years later, her Air Force father brought the family back to CA, then to Del Rio, Texas, before finally settling in Southern California when Jessica was nine. In love with the idea of becoming an actress from the age of five, Jessica was 12 before she took her first acting class. Nine months later, she was signed by an agent. A gifted young actress, Jessica has already played a variety of roles ranging from light comedy to gritty drama since beginning her career. She made her feature film debut in 1993 in Hollywood Pictures comedy Camp Nowhere. Originally hired for two weeks, she got her break when an actress in a principal role suddenly dropped out. Jessica cheerfully admits it wasn't her prodigious talent or charm that inspired the director to tap her to take over the part. It was her hair, which matched the original performer's. The two week job stretched to two months, and Jessica ended the film with an impressive first credit.


Real Life Quotes

"I'm good at being sarcastic with guys. They don't want the quiet, prissy little things."
"I like Spongebob Squarepants. He's goofy, like me."
Best advice mother has given to her: "Speak your mind. That's a good one. Unfortunately, I speak my mind a little too often."
"I don't like to schmooze, and I don't like to talk to people I don't know. I'm not going to go up and talk to them just because they're someone who makes films. If they want me to be in their movie, they're going to call my agents and ask for a meeting. They're not going to care if they saw me at a party and offered me their number. That's bullsh**."
Us Weekly quotes Jessica Alba talking about her character in 'Sin City': "It was originally drawn naked. But I couldn't really imagine my father seeing me butt-naked."
Asked what's on her Tivo by Us Weekly, Jessica Alba responded, "The Food Network. I think I'm a chef, but I'm not!"
Trivia

Sister of Joshua Alba
Was #1 on Maxim's Hot 100 Babe List. [2001]
Her mother has a French-Danish heritage, while her father descends from Mexican- Indian and Spanish lineage
Was voted the fifth Sexiest Female Star for 2002 in a Hollywood.com poll.
Vote #4 in the Top 10 Sci-Fi Babes in 2002 for her role as Max in Dark Angel
Loves to play golf.
Trained in martial arts and gymnastics for 11 months prior to the start of the filming of Dark Angel.
Jessica Alba narrowly avoided death as a safety harness began twisting uncontrollably around her body during shooting on the Dark Angel set. Alba admits, "It was so scary. It was literally squeezing me to death." Jessica's screams were drowned out by a fan blowing air on her during the scene.
Trained in dance and Tae Bo three months prior to the start of scheduled filming on her new film, Honey. [July 2002]
Voted in at #6 in FHM's Sexiest Girls of 2002 poll, American edition. [June 2002]
Graduated high school at age 16.
Has a tatoo of a daisy with a ladybug on it on the back of her neck.
Her second cousin is skateboarding legend Steve "Salba" Alba.
Was "Punk'd" on the Ashton Kutcher-hosted MTV show in 2003. Dax Shepard showed up fully nude at a clothing store Jessica was patronizing, following Miss Alba around the store and exposing his "business" to the blushing actress as she tried to shop for clothes. The soon-to-be Mrs. Michael Weatherly was a good sport after being informed it was all a practical joke, taped for the short-lived MTV show.
Though it is common for actresses and female pop stars to strip down to various states of undress for magazine layouts and movie/TV scenes, she has stated that she is a very modest girl and would never do a nude scene or pose topless in a magazine. The future Jessica Marie Weatherly has posed for men's magazines fully dressed, however, they are not engaged anymore.
Ranked #12 in Stuff magazine's "102 Sexiest Women in the World" (2002).
The character 'Max Guevara' Jessica's character on Dark Angel was ranked #17 in TV Guide's list of the "25 Greatest Sci-Fi Legends" (1 August 2004 issue).

[Sardaukar]

It's just a question. :rolleyes:

Her face does seem lighter to me in the FF previews than it does normally. Maybe it's just the lighting, or maybe not, I dunno...




:rolleyes:

Yep. And she applied a thin layer of make-up to her chest, arms and legs too. And Michael Jackson is her stylist.

http://img71.exs.cx/img71/3424/f4_033.jpg

[Kel]

"Malice"--WHAT IS IT???
by Jeanne Burch
What is this thing? The entity known as Malice has possessed the bodies of Alison Blaire (the Dazzler), Wolverine, Rogue, Ororo (Storm), Lorna Dane (Polaris), Beatrice Conners, Alex Summers (Havok), and Sue Richards (the Invisible Woman). The Sue Richards' version of Malice appears to be a psychological manifestation of Sue's own dark side left over from the Infinity Wars; in any case, it is not the mutant of the same name that dogs the X-Folks.
First appearance: Well, something named Malice showed up in Jungle Action 8.
Died in: The mutant Malice was caught with nowhere to go in X-Factor 105. The alternate personality Malice...well, those alternate personalities never really die, do they?

Team affiliation: When in league with Mister Sinister, Malice was partial to Polaris of X-Factor (Uncanny X-Men 221-222) although left on her own she tried to destroy Polaris rather than be permanently tied to her (X-Factor 102-105). Malice was the field leader for Sinister's Marauders during the Mutant Massacre. The Invisible Woman attempted to integrate Malice into her own personality (Fantastic Four 368), which made her very cranky for a considerable period of time.
Powers: Malice is a strongly empathic entity with no known corporeal form. She specializes in disrupting the emotional center of the brain, emphasizing the emotions at the expense of rational thought. (This, incidentally, works for both versions of Malice...)Actually "Malice" is a form of PMS....:)















I'm sorry...you have started a really cool thread here...and I've just derailed it...me of all people...I'm so ashamed...

I blame it on "Malice";)

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It's just a question. :rolleyes:

Her face does seem lighter to me in the FF previews than it does normally. Maybe it's just the lighting, or maybe not, I dunno...

The girl just tans well that's all. ;) She does have a strong European background, so I'm sure those genes impact her complexion. However, the other ethnicity running in her blood obviously allows her to tan well too. So she's got the best of both worlds, no big deal. The point is, she has been able to tone her body up and be groomed in a way to portray this role effectively. And that's an "actress" for ya.

[bweurk]

That's not fair......no one here's changing FANTOMAS' name....

A french director has made a movie in USA (a big crap), this movie is "Just visiting" with Jean Reno.... The name of the director is Jean marie Poiré... but the studio execs decided Poiré was too difficult to say for American people, so they changed it into Jean Marie Gaubert........ Who is not fair???

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From what I've been told no. The trend these days in Hollywood is to use bronzers...I have a feeling alot of the tan we saw on Jessica early on was from Bronzers...she is very aware of sun damage...so probably there was very little lightener used if any...also in Dark Angel (which was filmed in Vancouver)...by the 3rd episode she had lost much of the tan she started out with...there just isn't alot of sunlight in Vancouver...and from friends that live there...they have had a particularly rainy fall this year.

You know what? Hollywood isn't the only that uses those things---they've become more mainstream. My boss uses them. She's white as a sheet of Xerox paper without it. But when she comes out--she's practically as dark as I am--albeit looks rather otherworldly on her. But...whatever. I never understood why white people want to tan their skin darker, especially with all the risks out there from skin cancer and sun damage. I mean, some tan naturally well, but some try sooooo hard, to the point of wrinkling their skin. Then 20-something year olds start looking like 50.

But my father is white, and he jokingly claims he does it to keep up with my mom. LOL

[bweurk]

And Rogue is called Malicia
The Green Gobelin= Le bouffon vert (bouffon means jester)
Marvel Girl= Strange Girl (never understood why replacing an english name by another english name)
Nightcrawler=Diablo
etc

[bweurk]

And in France, Jean Claude Van Damme is a famous humorist, but don't tell he doesn't know this

"oxygen, it's important, if you remove the oxygen, all the birds will fall from the sky"

"you know, all these stuffes with Adam, Eve and th apple.... I don't believe in it.... you know, Apple is good for you, it is full of pectine"

"In life there are good moments and bad moments... if at the moment it is not the moment, so this is not the moment"

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I really flipped when I saw this pic in a comic book. It resembles Jessica so closely it's downright scary. I think this deserves to be developed into a thread blaster of some kind--ya know, something for the haters. Anyone got any ideas? :D

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So, did Alba use makeup to lighten her face for this role, or what?Why do you ask, Sardaukar?:p I don't think she did....at least nothing beyond Rachel Mc Adam's standard way of powdering HER face...., Hey Alba fan, can you please post some pictures of Jessi, ones that are too old to show any sign of her doing this role PLEASE, PRETTY PLEASE ?....because from what I've seen, she does in fact have lots of photos with light hair looking just like she does now, minus the blue eyes. Lets see the proof.

[Lightning Strykez!]

And in France, Jean Claude Van Damme is a famous humorist, but don't tell he doesn't know this

"oxygen, it's important, if you remove the oxygen, all the birds will fall from the sky"

"you know, all these stuffes with Adam, Eve and th apple.... I don't believe in it.... you know, Apple is good for you, it is full of pectine"

"In life there are good moments and bad moments... if at the moment it is not the moment, so this is not the moment"

Aaaaaaaand...how does any of this relate in any form or fashion to Susan Storm Richards AKA The Invisible Woman? We've already got an "Official Off-topic" thread in existence. So can we please stay on topic in this one--it's too early for this young thread to be derailed already. Damn.

[C. Lee]

A french director has made a movie in USA (a big crap), this movie is "Just visiting" with Jean Reno.... The name of the director is Jean marie Poiré... but the studio execs decided Poiré was too difficult to say for American people, so they changed it into Jean Marie Gaubert........ Who is not fair???
I've seen the French version that Jean Reno did first, but haven't seen the American one yet. Did the same director do both?


When it was first announced that Alba would play Sue, I along with many others was apprehensive.....but as pics were released and I saw how they had her looking, I am pleased with the casting now.

[Head>On<Collider]

A french director has made a movie in USA (a big crap), this movie is "Just visiting" with Jean Reno.... The name of the director is Jean marie Poiré... but the studio execs decided Poiré was too difficult to say for American people, so they changed it into Jean Marie Gaubert........ Who is not fair???I stand corrected, Can you ever forgive me of my ignorance? I was aware of the pulverization we did with the great comedy "Le Chev"(w/ young Gerard Depardieu)..and how we turned it into "Pure Luck"(with Martin Short and Danny Glover) though....you must give me THAT one...:batman:

[Hunter Rider]

Nice thread lightnin,:up:
To me Jess seem's to enbody a nice mix of sexiness, strength and protectiveness in the little bits weve seen so far.
To me rather than mothering i see her simply as the glue that holds the group together,She's the only one that really understands reed and can give him support but at the same time she can rationalise things if his scientific mind is getting out of hand,She also keeps johnny and ben in check when their fighting gets out of hand.I think when sheuse her shiled to protect the FF from physical attack it is kind of symbolic of how she protects her family period.

[Head>On<Collider]

Aaaaaaaand...how does any of this relate in any form or fashion to Susan Storm Richards AKA The Invisible Woman? We've already got an "Official Off-topic" thread in existence. So can we please stay on topic in this one--it's too early for this young thread to be derailed already. Damn.We're just seeing to it that the French doesn't get ahold of this movie and redo it as payback for the horrendous degregregation we did with LE CHEV....

[Lightning Strykez!]

I stand corrected, Can you ever forgive me of my ignorance? I was aware of the pulverization we did with the great comedy "Le Chev"(w/ young Gerard Depardieu)..and how we turned it into "Pure Luck"(with Martin Short and Danny Glover) though....you must give me THAT one...:batman:

And here I was thinking Bweurk was referring to PITOF (Catwoman)! Well, that was crap too!

Anyway, Hunter Rider, I haven't seen Jessica act before, and I'm trying to avoid seeing her in action until next summer. I don't want any preconcieved notions in my head. But Kel (Albafan) says she will be able to portray the essence of Susan Storm perfectly, and I trust Kel's judgement on such matters regarding Jessica. So...we'll see.

At first, I was BEYOND pissed when I heard of Jessica's casting--talk about MALICE! But...I'm looking forward to it now.

[bweurk]

I've seen the French version that Jean Reno did first, but haven't seen the American one yet. Did the same director do both?


yes it was the same director.... with this director, each movie he makes is crapier than the previous

[bweurk]

We're just seeing to it that the French doesn't get ahold of this movie and redo it as payback for the horrendous degregregation we did with LE CHEV....

Please... say "la chevre" and not "le chev"
but you are right

[bweurk]

And here I was thinking Bweurk was referring to PITOF (Catwoman)! Well, that was crap too!

Anyway, Hunter Rider, I haven't seen Jessica act before, and I'm trying to avoid seeing her in action until next summer. I don't want any preconcieved notions in my head. But Kel (Albafan) says she will be able to portray the essence of Susan Storm perfectly, and I trust Kel's judgement on such matters regarding Jessica. So...we'll see.

At first, I was BEYOND pissed when I heard of Jessica's casting--talk about MALICE! But...I'm looking forward to it now.

I still can't understand how after watching Pitof's Vidocq, Warner execs did get the idea to give a movie to this director..... after watching Vidocq, i would not even give him my camera for my vacation movie

[Hunter Rider]

And here I was thinking Bweurk was referring to PITOF (Catwoman)! Well, that was crap too!

Anyway, Hunter Rider, I haven't seen Jessica act before, and I'm trying to avoid seeing her in action until next summer. I don't want any preconcieved notions in my head. But Kel (Albafan) says she will be able to portray the essence of Susan Storm perfectly, and I trust Kel's judgement on such matters regarding Jessica. So...we'll see.

At first, I was BEYOND pissed when I heard of Jessica's casting--talk about MALICE! But...I'm looking forward to it now.
Kel's right she will do an excellent job as Sue,She deserves more credit then she's given but with FF and sin city next year i think people will come around.

[Lightning Strykez!]

"Hopefuls"

In recap, here is the official Fox listing of actresses who competed for the 2005 "Susan Storm/Invisible Woman" role in Fantastic Four:

http://www.lesliehassler.com/actors/outdoors/1/Kadee.jpg
Kadee Strickland

http://users.ev1.net/~alternity/tv/pageboy/Julia_Stiles.jpg
Julia Stiles

http://www.felicitypage.com/imgs/felicity_new.jpg
Keri Russell

http://www.celebstation.org/actresses/rachel_mcadams/Racquel_McAdams-002.jpg
Rachel McAdams

http://entimg.msn.com/i/150/ce/0301/KBosworth_150x218.jpg
Kate Bosworth

EDIT: Other actresses i.e. Elisha Cuthbert and Sarah Wynters proved to be only rumors propelled by the media to drum up further controversy among fans.

[Head>On<Collider]

"Hopefuls"

In recap, here is the official Fox listing of actresses who competed for the 2005 "Susan Storm/Invisible Woman" role in Fantastic Four:

http://www.lesliehassler.com/actors/outdoors/1/Kadee.jpg
Kadee Strickland

http://users.ev1.net/~alternity/tv/pageboy/Julia_Stiles.jpg
Julia Stiles

http://www.felicitypage.com/imgs/felicity_new.jpg
Keri Russell

http://www.celebstation.org/actresses/rachel_mcadams/Racquel_McAdams-002.jpg
Rachel McAdams

http://entimg.msn.com/i/150/ce/0301/KBosworth_150x218.jpg
Kate BosworthKadee Strickland, maybe; but otherwise' I think they made the wisest choice.http://img71.exs.cx/img71/3424/f4_033.jpg

[Lightning Strykez!]

I agree NOW Flight. NOW I can't picture any of those actresses looking as good as this in the classic navy-blue FF uniform:

http://antiherocomics.com/images/TheInvisibleWoman.jpg

And that's the power of the retrospective: I didn't know THEN what I know NOW. :D It's apparent that the casting directors knew what options they were working with a bit more than some of us fans did.

[Hunter Rider]

none of those actress look right to me,my only other choice was elisha cuthbert but i think we have the right lady for the job.

[Lightning Strykez!]

Aye, Hunter Rider--ESPECIALLY that Kaydee chick. I saw her in "Anacondas: The Hunt For the Blood-Red Orchid" and while her acting was decent, she just looked terrible to me. I remember sitting in the theatre thinking "And they were considering THIS for Susan Storm?" Even though she was obviously young, she came across OLD. And she isn't that attractive--she had very strong and hard facial features, and a rather gumpy body. And while I love Julia Stiles, her face is simply too big for the role. It's just round...like the sun.

We have to keep in mind that the on-screen chemistry between the actress and Ioan Gruffudd has to be hot and believable. Looking at those choices, I can't see ANY of those actresses making a good-looking couple with Ioan. Period. Rachel was my choice for a while, but after Ioan was cast, I was thinking, "she's gonna look pubescent next to him."

[Head>On<Collider]

I agree NOW Flight. NOW I can't picture any of those actresses looking as good as this in the classic navy-blue FF uniform:

http://antiherocomics.com/images/TheInvisibleWoman.jpg

And that's the power of the retrospective: I didn't know THEN what I know NOW. :D It's apparent that the casting directors knew what options they were working with a bit more than some of us fans did.Aside from her being as fierce as she is, I'm in awe of her personalty/role combo. Doesn't she just LOOK COOL? I remember going out and buying the USA Today(I never buy that crappy newspaper, I prefer the times) so I could have those excusive pixx, and it was like looking at Halle Berry as Storm(same lighting even!), only THIS time,it's Jessica Alba! It had nothing to do with getting turned on, I was blown away! She looked so ******'(<:rolleyes:) awesome! I stared at it for a LLOOOONNNGGG time!.....

[Hunter Rider]

Aye, Hunter Rider--ESPECIALLY that Kaydee chick. I saw her in "Anacondas: The Hunt For the Blood-Red Orchid" and while her acting was decent, she just looked terrible to me. I remember sitting in the theatre thinking "And they were considering THIS for Susan Storm?" Even though she was obviously young, she came across OLD. And she isn't that attractive--she had very strong and hard facial features, and a rather gumpy body. And while I love Julia Stiles, her face is simply too big for the role. It's just round...like the sun.

We have to keep in mind that the on-screen chemistry between the actress and Ioan Gruffudd has to be hot and believable. Looking at those choices, I can't see ANY of those actresses making a good-looking couple with Ioan. Period. Rachel was my choice for a while, but after Ioan was cast, I was thinking, "she's gonna look pubescent next to him."
first off lightnin have you recoverd from seeing anacondas 2?
I agree that the connection between sue and reed must be hot and believable and jess despite her age is all woman and very mature,they look great together in the interviews imo.

[Kel]

Well here are some pics of Jessica pretty much what her natural skin tone is...I really didn't want to get into a debate on skin color...but was asked to find some pics...

All are with her normal hair color...and of course the last few are the most recent pics with blond hair...

This pic was last July right before she colored her hair again for the part of Sue...in fact there is a picture with her and Hutch Parker from Fox talking, probably hammering out last minute details for the part of Sue...
http://img19.exs.cx/img19/2385/irobot011.jpg

These are a good representation of what she naturally looks like on any given day...this was pretty much the look on Dark Angel...and what most people think of when they think of Jessica Alba...

http://img9.exs.cx/img9/7289/jump001.jpghttp://img19.exs.cx/img19/2603/jump010.jpg

And these are the most recent pics...
http://img80.exs.cx/img80/9726/steplunch159.jpg

OK thats my input on the subject...and thats all I've got...

[Lightning Strykez!]

Oh I totally am with you on that Flight! The Invisible Woman is probably my favorite Marvel heroine, second only to the Weather Goddess Storm. While I love Halle Berry and think she coooould be the consummate Ororo Munroe, I can't stand the way the Fox movie writers and Bryan Singer have portrayed her in X1 and X2. Both films leave a lot to be desired. So that's why I can really relate to that angst that fills my fellow comrades in this forum regarding Dr. Doom.

When the news suddenly hit that Jessica Alba was up for this role, I was furious--ask Kel--I was like a tornado out of control. Like I said, the IW is like my 2nd fave Marvel female character of ALL TIME. So after jacking up Storm and then I was seeing all of these darkly-tanned Alba pics swirling on the net, I was like "What the f*** is Fox's problem in casting female heroes in their movies? Why can't they get it right?"

;) I'm calm now. Because at least aesthetically, for Susan Storm, they've got it right--and I'm sure I'll have no complaints after seeing the finished product in live action.

[Kel]

Kadee Strickland is a beautiful young lady...but that Georgia accent....IS STERRRRROOOOOOOONNNNNNNGGGGGGGGGG......LOL

[Head>On<Collider]

Plus I remember when I first found out they picked her,,,I thought she was perfect for it personality wise. I can't find it now, but I remember looking at this one photo with her between her parents at an award show (she was all little compared to the two) In the picture she had this really huge,really sweet smile on her face as she had them both in this really secured hug:p . My thoughts were this: A face like that could stop Dr. Doom from blowing up France(j/k)!!Her sincerity shows on her smile. America won't help but fall in love with her..this is the role that's gonna do it for her....she's gonna be HUGE after this movie! Ioan was another story, but that's for a different thread.

[Lightning Strykez!]

Kadee Strickland is a beautiful young lady...but that Georgia accent....IS STERRRRROOOOOOOONNNNNNNGGGGGGGGGG......LOL


Thick like eggnog it is!! I don't think she'd be able to lose it for the film either...Perhaps that's why she lost the role.

[Kel]

Plus I remember when I first found out they picked her,,,I thought she was perfect for it personality wise. I can't find it now, but I remember looking at this one photo with her between her parents at an award show (she was all little compared to the two) In the picture she had this really huge,really sweet smile on her face as she had them both in this really secured hug:p . My thoughts were this: A face like that could stop Dr. Doom from blowing up France(j/k)!!Her sincerity shows on her smile. America won't help but fall in love with her..this is the role that's gonna do it for her....she's gonna be HUGE after this movie! Ioan was another story, but that's for a different thread.
http://img26.exs.cx/img26/7340/foto165.jpg

[Head>On<Collider]

http://img26.exs.cx/img26/7340/foto165.jpgTHAT'S IT!!!!!!!!!!!!:p That face could melt steel!

[Kel]

THAT'S IT!!!!!!!!!!!!:p That face could melt steel!

Damn I'm good..... http://smileys.smileycentral.com/cat/10/10_1_20.gif (http://www.smileycentral.com/?partner=ZSzeb001_ZSxdm519)

[Hunter Rider]

THAT'S IT!!!!!!!!!!!!:p That face could melt steel!
it kinda does in the movie.

[The Dude]

it kinda does in the movie.
Good point

[Hunter Rider]

http://img56.exs.cx/img56/7097/invisible-woman.jpg

http://antiherocomics.com/images/TheInvisibleWoman.jpg

[Kel]

http://img56.exs.cx/img56/7097/invisible-woman.jpg


Ummmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmm....... no.


THAT IS NOT SUE!......THAT IS AN IMPOSTER......;)

[Hunter Rider]

Ummmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmm....... no.
*sniffle* whats wrong with it it was the best i could find:(

[Lightning Strykez!]

http://img56.exs.cx/img56/7097/invisible-woman.jpg



Is she...uh....rubbing on her bizness here?

[snazzy J]

And I'm like, "Motherly' for WHO?Johnny. She raised him for a good deal of her life.

[The Dude]

classy

[snazzy J]

Rachel was my choice for a while, but after Ioan was cast, I was thinking, "she's gonna look pubescent next to him."Well she is supposed to be eleven years younger.

[snazzy J]

Well here are some pics of Jessica pretty much what her natural skin tone is...I really didn't want to get into a debate on skin color...but was asked to find some pics...

All are with her normal hair color...and of course the last few are the most recent pics with blond hair...

This pic was last July right before she colored her hair again for the part of Sue...in fact there is a picture with her and Hutch Parker from Fox talking, probably hammering out last minute details for the part of Sue...
http://img19.exs.cx/img19/2385/irobot011.jpg

These are a good representation of what she naturally looks like on any given day...this was pretty much the look on Dark Angel...and what most people think of when they think of Jessica Alba...

http://img9.exs.cx/img9/7289/jump001.jpghttp://img19.exs.cx/img19/2603/jump010.jpg

And these are the most recent pics...
http://img80.exs.cx/img80/9726/steplunch159.jpg

OK thats my input on the subject...and thats all I've got...
Wow, I hadn't realized she had changed that much.

[The Dude]

really, that much younger

[Lightning Strykez!]

Johnny. She raised him for a good deal of her life.

True. But I don't think she has to be necessarily "Aged" like that in THIS movie however. In the sequels to come yeah, but being Johnny's guardian doesn't require the "nurturing" aspect does it? She's keeping his, Ben's and Reed's azzes in line. But she doesn't "nurture" them though--if anything, she only "nurtures" Franklin and Valeria--her children.

[Hunter Rider]

http://jerome.galica.free.fr/marvel/Fantastic%20Four/sue/1_sue_storm.gifhttp://jerome.galica.free.fr/marvel/Fantastic%20Four/sue/Invisible%20Woman%201.gifhttp://jerome.galica.free.fr/marvel/Fantastic%20Four/sue/InvisibleGirl-FF1.gifhttp://jerome.galica.free.fr/marvel/Fantastic%20Four/sue/F7_asm01_invisible_girl.gifhttp://jerome.galica.free.fr/marvel/Fantastic%20Four/sue/InvisibleGirl-FF3.gifhttp://jerome.galica.free.fr/marvel/Fantastic%20Four/sue/InvisibleGirl-Kirby1.gifhttp://jerome.galica.free.fr/marvel/Fantastic%20Four/sue/Invisible%20Girl%201%20TA.gif

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[Hunter Rider]

http://jerome.galica.free.fr/marvel/Fantastic%20Four/sue/InvisibleGirl-Kirby2.gifhttp://jerome.galica.free.fr/marvel/Fantastic%20Four/sue/Invisible%20Girl%202%20TA.gifhttp://jerome.galica.free.fr/marvel/Fantastic%20Four/sue/3_invisible_girl.gifhttp://jerome.galica.free.fr/marvel/Fantastic%20Four/sue/InvisibleWoman02.gifhttp://jerome.galica.free.fr/marvel/Fantastic%20Four/sue/InvisibleGirl-FFAnnual3.gifhttp://jerome.galica.free.fr/marvel/Fantastic%20Four/sue/2_invisible_girl_invisible.gifhttp://jerome.galica.free.fr/marvel/Fantastic%20Four/sue/2_invisible_girl.gif

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[Hunter Rider]

http://jerome.galica.free.fr/marvel/Fantastic%20Four/sue/InvisibleGirl-Kane.gifhttp://jerome.galica.free.fr/marvel/Fantastic%20Four/sue/InvisibleGirl.gifhttp://jerome.galica.free.fr/marvel/Fantastic%20Four/sue/Invisible%20Girl%20Disappearing.gifhttp://jerome.galica.free.fr/marvel/Fantastic%20Four/sue/InvisibleGirl-1970s.gifhttp://jerome.galica.free.fr/marvel/Fantastic%20Four/sue/Invisible_Girl_Classic.gifhttp://jerome.galica.free.fr/marvel/Fantastic%20Four/sue/Invisible_Woman.gifhttp://jerome.galica.free.fr/marvel/Fantastic%20Four/sue/Invisible_Woman_2.gif



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[The Dude]

Sue is the glue that hold the FF together. with out them who knows what hijinxs Reed, Ben, and johnny whould be in

[Kel]

Decided to bring an oldie back and then a newbie....
http://www.kellcom.pwp.blueyonder.co.uk/FF-Combined_Doom1.jpg
http://img35.exs.cx/img35/5360/fa195.jpg

[snazzy J]

really, that much younger
No, I mean her skin color.

[Kel]

Well she is supposed to be eleven years younger.
Well Jessica is younger than Rachel...by 5 years I believe.

Rachel is 3 years younger than Ioan...and Jessica is 8 years younger...

But I agree Lightnin...Rachel doesn't look anywhere near her age...she looks 16...LOL

[Hunter Rider]

Decided to bring an oldie back and then a newbie....
http://www.kellcom.pwp.blueyonder.co.uk/FF-Combined_Doom1.jpg
http://img35.exs.cx/img35/5360/fa195.jpg
did you make these ?

[Kel]

did you make these ?
Nope...I'd have to go back and see who made them...which I should...I like giving credit where credit is due...

MutantCircus might have made the first one...I can't remember...and I actually don't think I know who made the second one...or maybe mutantcircus made that one.......I don't remember.:rolleyes: But it wasn't me....I have zilch talent in that area...

[snazzy J]

True. But I don't think she has to be necessarily "Aged" like that in THIS movie however. In the sequels to come yeah, but being Johnny's guardian doesn't require the "nurturing" aspect does it? She's keeping his, Ben's and Reed's azzes in line. But she doesn't "nurture" them though--if anything, she only "nurtures" Franklin and Valeria--her children.
I just don't want her to be all "even though I'm a girl, I can still kick ass" the whole movie, just like I don't want her being a damsel in distress or anything. I want her to seem like an ordinary woman thrust into extraordinary circumstances. Sure, she can fight if she needs to and be a mother to the rest, but that's not what she's usually like. Usually she's just an everyday, normal person because, if anybody on the team is normal, it's her.

[Hunter Rider]

Nope...I'd have to go back and see who made them...which I should...I like giving credit where credit is due...

MutantCircus might have made the first one...I can't remember...and I actually don't think I know who made the second one...or maybe mutantcircus made that one.......I don't remember.:rolleyes: But it wasn't me....I have zilch talent in that area...
you and me both:(

[snazzy J]

Well Jessica is younger than Rachel...by 5 years I believe.

Rachel is 3 years younger than Ioan...and Jessica is 8 years younger...

But I agree Lightnin...Rachel doesn't look anywhere near her age...she looks 16...LOL
I'm not lobbying for Rachel or anything; I don't think she looks the part all that much. I'm just saying that, going by Ioan's age, Sue should look pretty darn young.

[Kel]

I just don't want her to be all "even though I'm a girl, I can still kick ass" the whole movie, just like I don't want her being a damsel in distress or anything. I want her to seem like an ordinary woman thrust into extraordinary circumstances. Sure, she can fight if she needs to and be a mother to the rest, but that's not what she's usually like. Usually she's just an everyday, normal person because, if anybody on the team is normal, it's her.
I think thats exactly how she is going to play it...in the TRL interview he started one of the questions out with..."Now I know you are determined not to be the heroin..." so maybe in the conversation before that they talked about that aspect...who knows....now as far as the "damsel in distress"...LOL I don't think she's really into those roles...LOL

[Kel]

I'm not lobbying for Rachel or anything; I don't think she looks the part all that much. I'm just saying that, going by Ioan's age, Sue should look pretty darn young.
Oh no, no, no...I didn't read it that way at all Snaz...I was just puttin the facts out there...LOL;)

[Hunter Rider]

http://img55.exs.cx/img55/4899/ig.gifI could see Jess doing something like this as sue .:cool:

[Head>On<Collider]

Wow, I hadn't realized she had changed that much.:rolleyes: whatever:rolleyes:

[Kel]

Ohhhhhhhhhhhhhh and btw....this is from the fabulous...."wobbly" himself.....
http://www.kellcom.pwp.blueyonder.co.uk/FF-Combined_Doom1.jpg

and Blindside01 from over at the Jmazone.de made this one....
http://img35.exs.cx/img35/5360/fa195.jpg


Great job guys!!!!! http://smileys.smileycentral.com/cat/4/4_17_208.gif (http://www.smileycentral.com/?partner=ZSzeb001_ZSxdm519)

[Lightning Strykez!]

I'm not lobbying for Rachel or anything; I don't think she looks the part all that much. I'm just saying that, going by Ioan's age, Sue should look pretty darn young.

Yeah but when you get into all of the current controversies surrounding pedophiles like R.Kelly with underage fledglings, it makes me wonder if they (Fox) steered clear of the 16 year age gap between Reed and Sue ON PURPOSE, and instead adopted the "Ultimate Fantastic Four" timeline.

[Lightning Strykez!]

I just don't want her to be all "even though I'm a girl, I can still kick ass" the whole movie, just like I don't want her being a damsel in distress or anything. I want her to seem like an ordinary woman thrust into extraordinary circumstances. Sure, she can fight if she needs to and be a mother to the rest, but that's not what she's usually like. Usually she's just an everyday, normal person because, if anybody on the team is normal, it's her.

Agreed. Technically speaking Sue Richards really didn't become a "kick-ass chick" until after Reed's "Death" when she assumed leadership of the team. This is a graphic from those years...when she was dangerous...

http://www.gifmaniacos.com/4_fantasticos/invisiblegirl01.gif

She was equally dangerous as Malice, but we can't really count that one because she temporarily lost her sanity during that era. I remember reading the Malice issues and thinking, "Damn, Sue is on some different **** in these stories!"

[snazzy J]

I think thats exactly how she is going to play itThat's good to hear.

[snazzy J]

Oh no, no, no...I didn't read it that way at all Snaz...I was just puttin the facts out there...LOL;)Alright, as long as were clear on that. ;)

[snazzy J]

Yeah but when you get into all of the current controversies surrounding pedophiles like R.Kelly with underage fledglings, it makes me wonder if they (Fox) steered clear of the 16 year age gap between Reed and Sue ON PURPOSE, and instead adopted the "Ultimate Fantastic Four" timeline.
Well, to me, Jessica doesn't look any older than about 23 (her actual age, coincidentally) so, if they were aiming to avoid that issue, they didn't do too well. Ioan and her still look about 10 years apart. It'll be pretty hard to buy her as a 29-year-old doctor of genetic research.

[Kel]

Well people can say alllllll they want.......I think they look like a damn fine couple...older distinguished man...beautiful young woman.....perfect.....

http://img132.exs.cx/img132/5822/f4_010.jpg

[Kel]

And with her hair up like this....I think she looks very sophisticated...and very scientificy...LOL

http://img46.exs.cx/img46/2246/f4_006.jpg

[the a1ant]

"Susan's Garden"????

LightnenStrikez :confused: :rolleyes: :o

lol :p

cool :) :D

[snazzy J]

It's not that I think she looks stupid or anything, she just looks too young to be in graduate school, let alone to be a Director of Genetic Research at a large corporation.

[Kel]

It's not that I think she looks stupid or anything, she just looks too young to be in graduate school, let alone to be a Director of Genetic Research at a large corporation.
Ok.....first of all...I did not read your post as saying "Jess looks stupid" and #2...and I had my masters by age 23...

[snazzy J]

Ok.....first of all...I did not read your post as saying "Jess looks stupid" and #2...and I had my masters by age 23...Okay, maybe I should have said "have a doctorate" instead of "be in graduate school."

[Head>On<Collider]

It's not that I think she looks stupid or anything, she just looks too young to be in graduate school, let alone to be a Director of Genetic Research at a large corporation.But she's not just any girl....what would be the point of making a movie about someone too normal. I think her age being so young gives her a mark that she's exceptional. It's her emotional side that needs the natural normalities Marvel exploits with their characters.....but they don't send simpletons into space (except Justin Timberlake, they even changed their mind about him)!:p

[the a1ant]

It takes about four/five years to gain your doctorate after undergraduate studies, so most graduates would be around 25/26/27. She looks that age. :)

[Kel]

Okay, maybe I should have said "have a doctorate" instead of "be in graduate school."
LOL....well had I stayed with it I could have had my doctorate easily by 29...but not enough time...and I don't need my doctorate to become Secretary of Education....LMAO.....I'm kidding....I just got tired of school...;)

[snazzy J]

But she's not just any girl....what would be the point of making a movie about someone too normal. I think her age being so young gives her a mark that she's exceptional. It's her emotional side that needs the natural normalities Marvel exploits with their characters.....but they don't send simpletons into space (except Justin Timberlake, they even changed their mind about him)!:p
But Reed is supposed to be the super genius, not Sue. In the comics, she was an aspiring actress, for god's sake! I'm not saying she should be a moron, but...Director of Genetic Research? That's pushing it.

[Kel]

But she's not just any girl....what would be the point of making a movie about someone too normal. I think her age being so young gives her a mark that she's exceptional. It's her emotional side that needs the natural normalities Marvel exploits with their characters.....but they don't send simpletons into space (except Justin Timberlake, they even changed their mind about him)!:p
Actually that was Lance Bass of NSync, not Justin Timberlake...but I agree with the rest...LOL

[snazzy J]

LOL....well had I stayed with it I could have had my doctorate easily by 29...but not enough time...and I don't need my doctorate to become Secretary of Education....LMAO.....I'm kidding....I just got tired of school...;)
She not only has her doctorate at 29, she holds a very high position in a major corporation and looks like a 23-year-old.

[Kel]

But Reed is supposed to be the super genius, not Sue. In the comics, she was an aspiring actress, for god's sake! I'm not saying she should be a moron, but...Director of Genetic Research? That's pushing it.
But Sue has to be able to understand what Reed is saying...and in order to respect him as much as she does she has to be able to understand the complexity of what he does....and well I'll have to think alittle longer on it...I'll come up with more later...LOL;)

[snazzy J]

But Sue has to be able to understand what Reed is saying...and in order to respect him as much as she does she has to be able to understand the complexity of what he does....and well I'll have to think alittle longer on it...I'll come up with more later...LOL;)
I'd be perfectly fine if she was aspiring to be the Director of Genetic Research. In fact, she could be a graduate student or at least a lower-level experimental scientist. Instead, she's already climbed to the top of the ladder before she's hit 30. This isn't really something I have a big problem with; it just doesn't seem logical and a lot of people may kinda' do a double take when they hear it.

[Kel]

I'd be perfectly fine if she was aspiring to be the Director of Genetic Research. In fact, she could be a graduate student or at least a lower-level experimental scientist. Instead, she's already climbed to the top of the ladder before she's hit 30. This isn't really something I have a big problem with; it just doesn't seem logical and a lot of people may kinda' do a double take when they hear it.Yeah its as logical as a big orange guy....LMAO....this is why I love the movies....they don't always have to be logical...;) And I really don't think the audience will have any problem with it AT ALL.....

[Head>On<Collider]

But Reed is supposed to be the super genius, not Sue. In the comics, she was an aspiring actress, for god's sake! I'm not saying she should be a moron, but...Director of Genetic Research? That's pushing it.Well, maybe in the movie they'll keep true to the actress thing. That would make even MORE sense. Looks can go a looooonnnggg way in this world.That would even make more sense about her working at Von Doom industries......:p

[Kel]

Well, maybe in the movie they'll keep true to the actress thing. That would make even MORE sense. Looks can go a looooonnnggg way in this world.That would even make more sense about her working at Von Doom industries......:p
:rolleyes: :rolleyes: :rolleyes: http://smileys.smileycentral.com/cat/4/4_13_3.gif (http://www.smileycentral.com/?partner=ZSzeb001_ZSxdm519)

[snazzy J]

Yeah its as logical as a big orange guy....LMAO....this is why I love the movies....they don't always have to be logical...;) And I really don't think the audience will have any problem with it AT ALL.....
I'm so tired of that argument. Just because they have superpowers doesn't mean nothing has to make sense. Why not just give them all flying unicorns to ride?

The key to good sci-fi is to make it believable. The best way to go about this is by sticking to the "leap of faith" theory, which I believe was thought up by TheSlag. See, because it is sci-fi, there has to be some bending of the truth and the audience has to go along with this; a "leap of faith", if you will. But this doesn't mean that other laws don't apply and that anything goes. The best sci-fi requires only one leap of faith and sticks to the truth in all other aspects. In the case of the Fantastic Four, that leap is that these characters are granted with these amazing abilities. Everything else should make perfect sense and be quite logical. Otherwise, the story no longer becomes believable and the audience just won't care. Asking them to believe that Sue could advance so far in the scientific field at such a young age would be another leap and could very easily take them out of the movie. Logic like this is extremely important in a movie like this because, without out it, the movie just won't make sense and the people will be unable to become involved while watching it.

[snazzy J]

Well, maybe in the movie they'll keep true to the actress thing. That would make even MORE sense. Looks can go a looooonnnggg way in this world.That would even make more sense about her working at Von Doom industries......:p
Well, she is sleeping with the president.

[Kel]

I'm so tired of that argument. Just because they have superpowers doesn't mean nothing has to make sense. Why not just give them all flying unicorns to ride?

The key to good sci-fi is to make it believable. The best way to go about this is by sticking to the "leap of faith" theory, which I believe was thought up by TheSlag. See, because it is sci-fi, there has to be some bending of the truth and the audience has to go along with this; a "leap of faith", if you will. But this doesn't mean that other laws don't apply and that anything goes. The best sci-fi requires only one leap of faith and sticks to the truth in all other aspects. In the case of the Fantastic Four, that leap is that these characters are granted with these amazing abilities. Everything else should make perfect sense and be quite logical. Otherwise, the story no longer becomes believable and the audience just won't care. Asking them to believe that Sue could advance so far in the scientific field at such a young age would be another leap and could very easily take them out of the movie. Logic like this is extremely important in a movie like this because, without out it, the movie just won't make sense and the people will be unable to become involved while watching it.
I hear ya...but I just don't see that as a big deal...she will pull it off just fine...

[surfergirl]

great thread idea Lightnin'! i for one didn't have any doubts when i heard Jessica got the role of Sue. i was optimistic and wanted to give her a chance, and from the pictures and press so far i am very pleased! Jessica looks very classy, sophisticated and mature in all of the on set pictures we have seen so far. she has the nuturing personality, but its subtle! she will be the one that holds the group together when things get chaotic and Ben and Johnny are having one of their disputes. like others have said, her and Ioan make a great on screen couple :) Jess and Chris also share a lot of similar facial characteristics like Lightnin pointed out as well. i'm very happy with Jessica as Sue Storm :up: :up:

[Kmack]

Whoa! How long has this thread been around and were was I!? Anyhow, great thread Lightnin;)

[Kel]

Whoa! How long has this thread been around and were was I!? Anyhow, great thread Lightnin;)
It just started today...I think its time to start a thread for Ioan...;)

[Kmack]

Maybe Julian first:p
Then Ioan:D

[Kel]

Maybe Julian first:p
Then Ioan:D
Works for me...but dang Doom already has about 20 threads in this place...LOL

[surfergirl]

Whoa! How long has this thread been around and were was I!? Anyhow, great thread Lightnin;)thats how i felt at first when i came on this afternoon. i read through all the posts to see everyones thoughts before replying

i think there should be a separate post for each of the Fantastic Four cast members: Ioan, Chris, Michael, and Julian! its only fair to spread the love :p

[Kel]

thats how i felt at first when i came on this afternoon. i read through all the posts to see everyones thoughts before replying

i think there should be a separate post for each of the Fantastic Four cast members: Ioan, Chris, Michael, and Julian! its only fair to spread the love :p
My sentiments exactly my thread has just gotten WAY TOO BIG...it would be nice to have individual theads for each...

[Hunter Rider]

And with her hair up like this....I think she looks very sophisticated...and very scientificy...LOL



http://img46.exs.cx/img46/2246/f4_006.jpg
"scientificy" great word usage there kel:)
Now snazzy you need to lighten up your gonna give yourself a brain anurism your overtinking it so much;)

[surfergirl]

My sentiments exactly my thread has just gotten WAY TOO BIG...it would be nice to have individual theads for each...
its because your thread is the coolest :cool:

[snazzy J]

"scientificy" great word usage there kel:)
Now snazzy you need to lighten up your gonna give yourself a brain anurism your overtinking it so much;)
Meh, I got nothing better to do. Aside from homework. But that's not gonna' happen.

[Kel]

its because your thread is the coolest :cool:
Awwwww thanks Gidget!

[Hunter Rider]

Meh, I got nothing better to do. Aside from homework. But that's not gonna' happen.
Dont let Kel here you say that:)

[Kmack]

Speaking of homework, I have a six page report to do on Maragret Mitchell.....

[Hunter Rider]

Speaking of homework, I have a six page report to do on Maragret Mitchell.....
Fight the system Kmack ......Dont let them beat you:p ;)

[Kel]

I moved Jessica's Bio to the first page...:)

[Hunter Rider]

Outstanding work AF,Who thinks surfergirl would have made a good Sue ?
Look at her pic:)

http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v38/RYEPiE/me.jpg

[Head>On<Collider]

I think the one thing that got me into Alba in the first place is the flawless Portfolio James Cameron has. James Cameron is like the Dr. Dre of action/scifi movies. When he spots you, you know you have camera mojo.:cool:

[Kel]

Fight the system Kmack ......Dont let them beat you:p ;)
What is the heresy I am reading....

http://smileys.smileycentral.com/cat/10/10_16_2.gif (http://www.smileycentral.com/?partner=ZSzeb001_ZSxdm519)

[Kel]

Outstanding work AF,Who thinks surfergirl would have made a good Sue ?
Look at her pic:)

http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v38/RYEPiE/me.jpg
Definitely!

[Hunter Rider]

I think the one thing that got me into Alba in the first place is the flawless Portfolio James Cameron has. James Cameron is like the Dr. Dre of action/scifi movies. When he spots you, you know you have camera mojo.:cool:My god flight you took the words outta my brain:)
Cameron is the MAN....just don't mention pirahna 2:p

[Hunter Rider]

What is the heresy I am reading....

http://smileys.smileycentral.com/cat/10/10_16_2.gif (http://www.smileycentral.com/?partner=ZSzeb001_ZSxdm519)
OUCH!!!!:p

[Head>On<Collider]

My god flight you took the words outta my brain:)
Cameron is the MAN....just don't mention pirahna 2:p When are you gonna realize that I'm psychic, Hunter? All martians are psychic! Damn!

[surfergirl]

i don't know if i would be a good Sue, so i will leave it up to Jessica. but it would be nice to be in her position getting to work with that group of men :) i rather hang around here with all you fine people anyway!! :cool:

[Kel]

The Dark and Light Personality of Jessica...
http://img77.exs.cx/img77/6131/aa-fs010.jpg
http://img99.exs.cx/img99/7499/c1-fs026.jpg

[Hunter Rider]

Nice pics:)

The girl even has beautiful feet;)
The second pic is one of the coolest ive ever seen

[Hunter Rider]

i don't know if i would be a good Sue, so i will leave it up to Jessica. but it would be nice to be in her position getting to work with that group of men :) i rather hang around here with all you fine people anyway!! :cool:

Well your the Sue of The FF boards gorgeous:);)

[Lightning Strykez!]

But Reed is supposed to be the super genius, not Sue. In the comics, she was an aspiring actress, for god's sake! I'm not saying she should be a moron, but...Director of Genetic Research? That's pushing it.

No Snaz, I don't think so. We have to keep in mind that these audiences that support comic movies have likely already seen Spider-Man--wherein Mary Jane Watson is already an aspiring actress. She will still be on folks minds. People will think, "So all of the female leads in these movies are 'aspiring actresses'?" So this will be a twist that we haven't seen...at least since Jennifer Connelly's character played a scientist in "Hulk".

[Lightning Strykez!]

"Susan's Garden"????

LightnenStrikez :confused: :rolleyes: :o



Hey I gave you love! Besides, men can name their threads after flowery things and still be masculine. ;)

Besides, isn't this just a really cozy thread, nestled away on this forum. It's like....sitting in.....a garden! Aaaahhhhh....:D

[MOIDANGEREUX]

Here are some pictures of Jessica growing up.

http://img21.exs.cx/img21/9162/jessbaby.jpg

http://img21.exs.cx/img21/8591/JessicaAlba511.jpg

http://img21.exs.cx/img21/7027/robinsons1.jpg

http://img27.exs.cx/img27/418/jessica_alba_young.jpg

http://img74.exs.cx/img74/7824/jessica_alba_young5.jpg

http://www.foxmovies.com/neverbeenkissed/images/castalba01.gif

[Kel]

Hey I gave you love! Besides, men can name their threads after flowery things and still be masculine. ;)

Besides, isn't this just a really cozy thread, nestled away on this forum. It's like....sitting in.....a garden! Aaaahhhhh....:D
I like the name of the thread...it fits just perfect...;)

[Lightning Strykez!]

I like the name of the thread...it fits just perfect...;)

Thanks! I had to really dig down deep and reach into my feminine side to type the words "Susan's Garden".

[Kel]

Thanks! I had to really dig down deep and reach into my feminine side to type the words "Susan's Garden".
Well ladies like a man that is in touch with the feminine side...we find that very comforting...;)

[Hunter Rider]

Well ladies like a man that is in touch with the feminine side...we find that very comforting...;)
I'm in touch with mine and would love to get in touch with jess's:D

[Lightning Strykez!]

Well ladies like a man that is in touch with the feminine side...we find that very comforting...;)

Really?

Well in THAT case...Let me dig down even further and see what I can pull out........hold on....what's this....ewwww....okay....grrrrr! This one is heavy.....man, I can barely lift this monster.....




aaahh....





Uhhhhh......






Yeeah......






GRRRRRR!!





http://img125.exs.cx/img125/8107/GARD2.jpg

WAH-LAAA!!!!! >whew<

[Lightning Strykez!]

She can stop bullets speeding faster than a speeding bullet. :D

http://continuitypages.com/fantastic4/4n5.JPG

[Hunter Rider]

Best Sue pic ever!!!...Nice one lightnin;)

[Head>On<Collider]

That picture made me think of an idea,......why couldn't they airbrush (paint) Alba's outfit on instead of make her wear that really uncomfortable spandex? Wouldn't THAT be true to the comics?

[Hunter Rider]

That picture made me think of an idea,......why couldn't they airbrush (paint) Alba's outfit on instead of make her wear that really uncomfortable spandex? Wouldn't THAT be true to the comics?
You get the paint and i'll get the brush......or maybe we could go the handpainting route:D

[Head>On<Collider]

You get the paint and i'll get the brush......or maybe we could go the handpainting route:D:(:(it'll never happen

[Kel]

That picture made me think of an idea,......why couldn't they airbrush (paint) Alba's outfit on instead of make her wear that really uncomfortable spandex? Wouldn't THAT be true to the comics?

Hmmmmmmmmmmmmm.......... I have a feeling that the motive behind your idea is not to be "true to the comics"....:rolleyes: :)

[Hunter Rider]

:(:(it'll never happen
sadly you are right,
when we getting your anticepated silver surfer thread ?:)

[Head>On<Collider]

Hmmmmmmmmmmmmm.......... I have a feeling that the motive behind your idea is not to be "true to the comics"....:rolleyes: :) Good evening and Merry Christmas AlbaFan....:p

[Kel]

sadly you are right,
when we getting your anticepated silver surfer thread ?:)
We are NOT getting a silver surfer thread before a Johnny thread....that CANNOT happen.....:mad:

[Lightning Strykez!]

You get the paint and i'll get the brush......or maybe we could go the handpainting route:D

I vote for finger-painting. ;)

[Head>On<Collider]

We are NOT getting a silver surfer thread before a Johnny thread....that CANNOT happen.....:mad: WELL WHAT ARE YOU WAITING FOR DAMNIT!!!!!!!:mad: :hulk: :bomb: :venom: :unishr:

[Hunter Rider]

I vote for finger-painting. ;)
Yes the devil is in the details:cool:

[Hunter Rider]

WELL WHAT ARE YOU WAITING FOR DAMNIT!!!!!!!:mad: :hulk: :bomb: :venom: :unishr:
A race between Kel and flight to see who opens the thread fastest.:)

[Head>On<Collider]

A race between Kel and flight to see who opens the thread fastest.:):p (mumbling like boomhaurer...) "Listen here, mmblbnmm WOMAN! mmmmmbmbbbmb like Aye said before mmmmmbmbmmmm...I'm not gonna start non' dat 'dere jonnamblbmbn Storm garbage non dat like der thread whatchamajigger.....":p

[Hunter Rider]

:p (mumbling like boomhaurer...) "Listen here, mmblbnmm WOMAN! mmmmmbmbbbmb like Aye said before mmmmmbmbmmmm...I'm not gonna start non' dat 'dere jonnamblbmbn Storm garbage non dat like der thread whatchamajigger.....":p
I think I get you... maybe... but it reminds me a bit of my Godess story,Here it is:

In 2068 ,Launched into space were 6000 pieces of cheese sent to do battle with the Ham sandwich of Death....It was a bad time to be a pickeled onion..


To Be Continued....

[Head>On<Collider]

I think I get you... maybe... but it reminds me a bit of my Godess story,Here it is:

In 2068 ,Launched into space were 6000 pieces of cheese sent to do battle with the Ham sandwich of Death....It was a bad time to be a pickeled onion..


To Be Continued....I think you might need to have spent some time in Texas to get it, Hunter....and still, maybe not then. I spent alot of time in Amarillo as a child.........WAIt . Haven't you seen "KING OF THE HILL?"

[Kel]

WELL WHAT ARE YOU WAITING FOR DAMNIT!!!!!!!:mad: :hulk: :bomb: :venom: :unishr:
Excuse me....what is the reason for the raised voice? ;)

Actually I would have already started one...but I'm at school, therefore, I do not have time...and now that I see Lightnin has done so...I will go home and work on the Bios....:)

[Lightning Strykez!]

Looking forward to that info Kel--you always do such a splendid job on that.

Shame on you Flight. Damn. ;)

[snazzy J]

No Snaz, I don't think so. We have to keep in mind that these audiences that support comic movies have likely already seen Spider-Man--wherein Mary Jane Watson is already an aspiring actress. She will still be on folks minds. People will think, "So all of the female leads in these movies are 'aspiring actresses'?" So this will be a twist that we haven't seen...at least since Jennifer Connelly's character played a scientist in "Hulk".
Read my later post where I said she should be a graduate student or at least lower-level research scientist. I wasn't actually trying to suggest she should be an actress, just that she isn't really supposed to be on the same level as Reed, intelligence-wise. Holding such a position in a company like that at that age would require her to be beyond a genius.

[Head>On<Collider]

Looking forward to that info Kel--you always do such a splendid job on that.

Shame on you Flight. Damn. ;):p Yeah Yeah, always there for the comforting understanding softy/strong "good man" who has found his inner woman role:rolleyes: .:p At least I know it's nice guys like you who end up with the leftovers after us jerks are finished getting what we want with these "broads"....................;) ( Flight runs the hell out of here before he gets his a** beaten unmercifully)

[Lightning Strykez!]

Read my later post where I said she should be a graduate student or at least lower-level research scientist. I wasn't actually trying to suggest she should be an actress, just that she isn't really supposed to be on the same level as Reed, intelligence-wise. Holding such a position in a company like that at that age would require her to be beyond a genius.

Yes I saw your latter points and agree with the direction you're coming from. However, in today's business world, young people are getting these six-figure salaries like there is no tommorrow. My job has several highly-paid women who have reached the level of director in only a few years. It boils down to whatever connections they've played, and little with the amount of smarts they have.

The same may not hold true for Susan Storm however. Besides, this movie is supposed to be set somewhat in the future.

[Lightning Strykez!]

:p Yeah Yeah, always there for the comforting understanding softy/strong "good man" who has found his inner woman role:rolleyes: .:p At least I know it's nice guys like you who end up with the leftovers after us jerks are finished getting what we want with these "broads"....................;) ( Flight runs the hell out of here before he gets his a** beaten unmercifully)

http://img32.exs.cx/img32/9222/y17.jpg

[Kel]

:p Yeah Yeah, always there for the comforting understanding softy/strong "good man" who has found his inner woman role:rolleyes: .:p At least I know it's nice guys like you who end up with the leftovers after us jerks are finished getting what we want with these "broads"....................;) ( Flight runs the hell out of here before he gets his a** beaten unmercifully)Maybe I should go back to my first Signature....



Girls "Kick-Ass", says so on a T-shirt!


BTW: I got where I am with brains, hard-work, and a relentless mother who never let her daughter settle for anything less than the best.

Looks had nothing to do with it!

Now back to the subject at hand!
Sue Storm 2005, will "Kick-Ass"
nuff said!

[Head>On<Collider]

Maybe I should go back to my first Signature....



Girls "Kick-Ass", says so on a T-shirt!


BTW: I got where I am with brains, hard-work, and a relentless mother who never let her daughter settle for anything less than the best.

Looks had nothing to do with it!

Now back to the subject at hand!
Sue Storm 2005, will "Kick-Ass"


nuff said!
:rolleyes: Oh c'mon Alba Fan, You know you love me..........:p :cool: BTW, You've calmed down ALOT since then it seems.

[Head>On<Collider]

http://img32.exs.cx/img32/9222/y17.jpgnever......

[Kel]

:rolleyes: Oh c'mon Alba Fan, You know you love me..........:p :cool: BTW, You've calmed down ALOT since then it seems.
Nahhhhhhhhhhhhhh.....I was just as calm then as now....I just felt I needed to spread the "positivity" around more than the "kick-ass"...LOL http://smileys.smileycentral.com/cat/4/4_1_204.gif (http://www.smileycentral.com/?partner=ZSzeb001_ZSxdm519)

[Hunter Rider]

Maybe I should go back to my first Signature....



Girls "Kick-Ass", says so on a T-shirt!


BTW: I got where I am with brains, hard-work, and a relentless mother who never let her daughter settle for anything less than the best.

Looks had nothing to do with it!

Now back to the subject at hand!
Sue Storm 2005, will "Kick-Ass"


nuff said!
Was this really your Sig ?
My did i miss the good ****.:(
And yes Sue Will kick all kinds of ass in 2005 so Uma can go to hell:p

[Head>On<Collider]

Uma can go to hell?:(

[Kel]

Ohhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhh AND BTW....

I meant to add....

I'm sure all the young ladies of the hype....got to where they are with the same brains and hardwork, along with someone in their lives pushing them along as well..... http://smileys.smileycentral.com/cat/4/4_12_11.gif (http://www.smileycentral.com/?partner=ZSzeb001_ZSxdm519)This would be "The Thinker" lol

[Hunter Rider]

Uma can go to hell?:(sorry flight i just think those movies and uma are overrated.;)

[Kel]

Was this really your Sig ?
My did i miss the good ****.:(
And yes Sue Will kick all kinds of ass in 2005 so Uma can go to hell:p

The "Girls Kick-Ass, says so on a T-shirt" was...its a line from DA...

[Hunter Rider]

The "Girls Kick-Ass, says so on a T-shirt" was...its a line from DA...
Yes i remember now....I must get those boxsets instead of watching repeats on Sci Fi channel.

[Kel]

Yes i remember now....I must get those boxsets instead of watching repeats on Sci Fi channel.
Dang right you need to get the DVD's....they are excellent...and being in Europe the Bloopers are uncut...you get Jessica in all her glory...LOL (language that is)...LOL

[Hunter Rider]

Dang right you need to get the DVD's....they are excellent...and being in Europe the Bloopers are uncut...you get Jessica in all her glory...LOL (language that is)...LOL
Well i guess we know what my christmas money is going on:) :up:

[Kel]

Well i guess we know what my christmas money is going on:) :up:
LOL....well I'm just sorry you don't have a Wal-Mart....its on sale there...LOL...I got them for my BF last Christmas...and then my sister got it for me last Christmas...so we have those damn DVD's everywhere...LOL

[Hunter Rider]

LOL....well I'm just sorry you don't have a Wal-Mart....its on sale there...LOL...I got them for my BF last Christmas...and then my sister got it for me last Christmas...so we have those damn DVD's everywhere...LOLYou can never have to much Jess IMO:up:
I think i can get a decent deal though ive seen some reasonable prices where i live:)

[Kel]

You can never have to much Jess IMO:up:
I think i can get a decent deal though ive seen some reasonable prices where i live:)
I hope so, cause when I bought them last year they cost me over $100.00...but I guess my BF is worth it:rolleyes:

[Hunter Rider]

I hope so, cause when I bought them last year they cost me over $100.00...but I guess my BF is worth it:rolleyes:well im not sure what that is in £'s but my estimation was about £40 for both which is not bad considering the quality on offer:cool:

[Kel]

well im not sure what that is in £'s but my estimation was about £40 for both which is not bad considering the quality on offer:cool:
I'm not sure what it is right at this moment...but its usually around

$ .71 = 1£

[Kel]

I think Jessica prefers this suit http://img110.exs.cx/img110/5379/2d-alba_web.jpg
to this suithttp://antiherocomics.com/images/TheInvisibleWoman.jpg

Not to say she isn't having fun playing the Invisible Woman...but Spandex is so...uncomfortable...LOL

[Darko]

I think Jessica prefers this suit http://img110.exs.cx/img110/5379/2d-alba_web.jpg
to this suithttp://antiherocomics.com/images/TheInvisibleWoman.jpg

Not to say she isn't having fun playing the Invisible Woman...but Spandex is so...uncomfortable...LOL

It barely looks like she can move in the Fantastic Four Suit, LOL. Still, gotta admit she looks absolutely stunning in that suit.:D

[Mr_Incredible]

wetsuits arent that easy or comfy you know.

[Kel]

Well I pretty much live in mine in the summers.....I don't have a problem with them...once they are on....LOL;)

[Mr_Incredible]

ye me too and thats what i meant. :cool:

:joker:

[Hunter Rider]

http://img110.exs.cx/img110/5379/2d-alba_web.jpg


These are Magnificent:)

[surfergirl]

Awwwww thanks Gidget!
you're very welcome! (sorry this response is way late but i couldn't get online until now)

[Mr_Incredible]

Hey surfer whos gidget?

[Kel]

Hey surfer whos gidget?
Hey Gidget, I guess you'll have to put who Gidget is in your sig...LOL


Gidget=A surfergirl series from the 60's...about a young teenager surfergirl played by Sally Fields...:cool:

[Mr_Incredible]

I havent heared of it and I surf. Both you girls surfers then?

[Hunter Rider]

I havent heared of it and I surf. Both you girls surfers then?
I think Kel is more a Scuba Diver Right Kel?:)

[Kel]

I havent heared of it and I surf. Both you girls surfers then?
Kneeboarder yes....surfer...nope...

[surfergirl]

Well your the Sue of The FF boards gorgeous:);)well its an honor :p


thanks Kel for explaining gidget :) i will put that in my sig tonight lol i might have to get a new aim sn with gidget in it.

[Kel]

Gidget: http://img94.exs.cx/img94/8719/cb-sallyfieldglynis.jpg

[Hunter Rider]

Gidget: http://img94.exs.cx/img94/8719/cb-sallyfieldglynis.jpg
SG's Way Hotter;)

[surfergirl]

SG's Way Hotter;)aww thank you hunter rider :) thanks Kel for posting that picture too!


as for Jess' FF uniform, she should be relieved that it isn't as uncomfortable as Michael's Thing suit. he is a trooper!

[Hunter Rider]

aww thank you hunter rider :) thanks Kel for posting that picture too!


as for Jess FF uniform, she should be relieved that it isn't as uncomfortable as Michael's Thing suit. he is a trooper!
Just speaking the truth:)

[Mr_Incredible]

LOL you make me laugh.

[Mr_Incredible]

Wish i had some funny people like you on my buddy list (hint)

[Hunter Rider]

Wish i had some funny people like you on my buddy list (hint)
I dont use the buddy list how does it work?
If you are talking to SG just ignore this post;)

[Head>On<Collider]

I dont use the buddy list how does it work?
If you are talking to SG just ignore this post;)HMMMMMM....Some dude named hunter rider or "Surfer Girl" to have on buddy list ...........:rolleyes:

[surfergirl]

were you talking to me mr incredible? and was it the aim buddy list or one here on the board? can someone help me make a gidget sn to use on aol? lol

[Mr_Incredible]

i was talking to the couple of you , what is a sn?

[Hunter Rider]

HMMMMMM....Some dude named hunter rider or "Surfer Girl" to have on buddy list ...........:rolleyes:
hey i love you too:rolleyes: :p if mr had quoted instead of just posting we'd know for sure....hmmmphhh

[Head>On<Collider]

were you talking to me mr incredible? and was it the aim buddy list or one here on the board? can someone help me make a gidget sn to use on aol? lol**30 people begin PMing Surfer Girl**

[Hunter Rider]

i was talking to the couple of you , what is a sn?
HAH Flight eat that one buddy:p
SN is screen Name.

[Mr_Incredible]

surfer girl i meant on here.

[Head>On<Collider]

hey i love you too:rolleyes: :p if mr had quoted instead of just posting we'd know for sure....hmmmphhhDid you see my CCONN campaign on the Avatar thread? HARD A** *****!!!!!!!:unishr: :up:

[Hunter Rider]

Did you see my CCONN campaign on the Avatar thread? HARD A** *****!!!!!!!:unishr: :up:
Saw it and i'm going to follow your lead he deserves it:cool:

[Kel]

The "Scientificy" Sue...
http://img19.exs.cx/img19/1796/37-f4_004.jpghttp://img4.exs.cx/img4/4557/02-f4_005.jpg
http://img55.exs.cx/img55/8703/43-f4_006.jpghttp://img11.exs.cx/img11/7127/9b-f4_007.jpg


And theres just one thing I want to know...why aren't people taking pics of the guys...whats wrong with this picture...I'll tell ya whats wrong...there aren't any pics of the guys on set...THATS WHATS WRONG

I want some freakin pics of the guys! Is that too much to ask!....No, its not!
http://smileys.smileycentral.com/cat/4/4_2_205.gif (http://www.smileycentral.com/?partner=ZSzeb001_ZSxdm519)

[Hunter Rider]

Of Course it's to much too ask...Who wants guys when you can have Jess:p

You should put the word Scientificy in your Sig:)

[Ratcrawler]

I haven't read the whole thread so forgive me if this came up before, but...

"When she was 12, she met Reed Richards (then 23) at her aunt's bording house. She was quite infatuated and tried to keep tabs on Reed for years to come."

Wait, what? If I may quote Dazzler in Ultimate X-Men 53, "He's gotta be, like, twice her age. That is hot."

[surfergirl]

:gets up on a soap box with albafan:

[Kel]

http://smileys.smileycentral.com/cat/4/4_2_205.gif (http://www.smileycentral.com/?partner=ZSzeb001_ZSxdm519) http://smileys.smileycentral.com/cat/4/4_2_205.gif (http://www.smileycentral.com/?partner=ZSzeb001_ZSxdm519)
Albafan Gidget



The women of hype deserve set pics of our F4 guys just as much as the guys deserve pics of Jess...actually we deserve it more...cause theres less of us...and more guys...and....and....I can't think of any more reasons.

http://smileys.smileycentral.com/cat/4/4_2_211.gif (http://www.smileycentral.com/?partner=ZSzeb001_ZSxdm519)



Disclaimer: This by no means, means I'm less of an "Albafan"... http://smileys.smileycentral.com/cat/23/23_13_12.gif (http://www.smileycentral.com/?partner=ZSzeb001_ZSxdm519)

[Head>On<Collider]

http://archives.cnn.com/2000/SHOWBIZ/TV/04/24/three.stooges/stooges.story.jpgHere's one F4 guy,,,Michael Chiklis as Curley Howard....
http://epguides.com/Commish/cast.jpgFrom the Commish....:p

[Kel]

http://archives.cnn.com/2000/SHOWBIZ/TV/04/24/three.stooges/stooges.story.jpgHere's one F4 guy,,,Michael Chiklis as Curley Howard....
http://epguides.com/Commish/cast.jpgFrom the Commish....
http://smileys.smileycentral.com/cat/10/10_9_206.gif (http://www.smileycentral.com/?partner=ZSzeb001_ZSxdm519)

[surfergirl]

http://smileys.smileycentral.com/cat/4/4_2_205.gif (http://www.smileycentral.com/?partner=ZSzeb001_ZSxdm519) http://smileys.smileycentral.com/cat/4/4_2_205.gif (http://www.smileycentral.com/?partner=ZSzeb001_ZSxdm519)
Albafan Gidget



The women of hype deserve set pics of our F4 guys just as much as the guys deserve pics of Jess...actually we deserve it more...cause theres less of us...and more guys...and....and....I can't think of any more reasons.

http://smileys.smileycentral.com/cat/4/4_2_211.gif (http://www.smileycentral.com/?partner=ZSzeb001_ZSxdm519)





Disclaimer: This by no means, means I'm less of an "Albafan"... http://smileys.smileycentral.com/cat/23/23_13_12.gif (http://www.smileycentral.com/?partner=ZSzeb001_ZSxdm519)
you're on a roll! the minority of women on this board do deserve "eye candy" just as much as the boys. plus the cast has mostly men in it, you would think it would be the other way around. more pictures of them and only few of Jess because she is the only female FF member. we want more set pictures of Ioan, Chris and Julian ..we have seen a lot of Michael as the thing too.

i don't know if that helped the cause? you had lots of good reasons already though. i am still a Jess supporter as well, i just want to see more of our FF guys :) and Julian :doom:

[Mr_Incredible]

lol just noticed gidget in your sig.

[Hunter Rider]

http://smileys.smileycentral.com/cat/4/4_2_205.gif (http://www.smileycentral.com/?partner=ZSzeb001_ZSxdm519) http://smileys.smileycentral.com/cat/4/4_2_205.gif (http://www.smileycentral.com/?partner=ZSzeb001_ZSxdm519)
Albafan Gidget



The women of hype deserve set pics of our F4 guys just as much as the guys deserve pics of Jess...actually we deserve it more...cause theres less of us...and more guys...and....and....I can't think of any more reasons.

http://smileys.smileycentral.com/cat/4/4_2_211.gif (http://www.smileycentral.com/?partner=ZSzeb001_ZSxdm519)





Disclaimer: This by no means, means I'm less of an "Albafan"... http://smileys.smileycentral.com/cat/23/23_13_12.gif

Here you go ladies some hot men for ya viewing pleasure.

http://img50.exs.cx/img50/840/17-hulk_hogan.jpg

http://img71.exs.cx/img71/8532/06-g_king_kong_bundy.jpg

http://img98.exs.cx/img98/7453/41-Earthquake_-_John.jpg

[Hunter Rider]

sorry couldnt resist found some proper guys for ya(not all FF sorry)

http://img71.exs.cx/img71/6782/02-minorityreport.jpg

this link is to julian pics galore

http://images.google.com/imgres?imgurl=http://buffy29.free.fr/julian26.jpg&imgrefurl=http://topcelebrity.free.fr/juliangalerie1.htm&h=750&w=520&sz=277&tbnid=iRtgNgq98G4J:&tbnh=139&tbnw=97&start=63&prev=/images%3Fq%3Djulian%2Bmcmahon%26start%3D60%26hl%3D en%26lr%3D%26sa%3DN

http://img88.exs.cx/img88/2538/9d-julian26.jpg


http://img71.exs.cx/img71/7965/1a-michael_chiklis_5.jpg

http://img91.exs.cx/img91/9939/8d-colin-farrell.jpg

^^^^^I like this guys philosophy on women:p

[surfergirl]

hunter rider your first pictures of men :down the second :up: lol

colin farrell doesn't appeal to me because his personality is :down

what is Julian wearing in that one pic? i swore it was pajamas at first :p

[Hunter Rider]

hunter rider your first pictures of men :down: the second :up: lol

colin farrell doesn't appeal to me because his personality is :down:
ahhh...poor colin,he's okay he just likes women...........LOTS OF THEM:D

[surfergirl]

the whole cussing like a drunking sailor thing is also a no no to me its not attractive, so its not just his few of women that makes me give him a :down .

i have no problem with cussing if its not every other word in a sentence when you are having a conversation with someone. only when its used in necessity, like when driving lol

[Hunter Rider]

the whole cussing like a drunking sailor thing is also a no no to me its not attractive, so its not just his few of women that makes me give him a :down .

i have no problem with cussing if its not every other word in a sentence when you are having a conversation with someone. only when its used in necessity, like when driving lol
I can respect that i try not to cuss in front of Ladies........$*&$,*&^5,(&%$£.............Sorry about that SurferGirl.LOL..:)

[Kel]

hunter rider your first pictures of men :down the second :up: lol

colin farrell doesn't appeal to me because his personality is :down

what is Julian wearing in that one pic? i swore it was pajamas at first :p
Even though YES I can throw the explitives out every once in awhile...I'm not particularly attracted to men that do it in every sentence...;)

[Hunter Rider]

Even though YES I can throw the explitives out every once in awhile...I'm not particularly attracted to men that do it in every sentence...;)
&^%$ Kel &*^% but &^%*$ I %£"$! Luv *&%$you:p :)

[Kel]

&^%$ Kel &*^% but &^%*$ I %£"$! Luv *&%$you:p :)
I will simply ignore this statement!:rolleyes: :cool:

[Hunter Rider]

I will simply ignore this statement!:rolleyes: :cool:

Why ?:p

[surfergirl]

Why ?:p
because its hard to determine what language you were speaking j/k :p

[Hunter Rider]

because its hard to determine what language you were speaking j/k :p
why it was the language of lurve baby!!!!:p :)

Actually i was thinking of asking you to be my Cyber Wife.....You could be Ms's WAve Rider:D :D ;)

[surfergirl]

i will consider it ;) that would be a cool username! but i am too close to 300 and an avie to change it :(

[Kel]

why it was the language of lurve baby!!!!:p :)

Actually i was thinking of asking you to be my Cyber Wife.....You could be Ms's WAve Rider:D :D ;)
You are such a dork...:p and I think....I'm old enough to be your really young mother....LOL;)

[Hunter Rider]

i will consider it ;) that would be a cool username! but i am too close to 300 and an avie to change it :(
You could just put Mr's wave rider In your sig and you know where i have marvel/Dc fan under my SN you should put Lady of the Waves IMO;)

just in case you say yes:D

http://www.anycollectibles.com/gents/11540.jpg

as for me being a dork kel...you are so right but hey..i like old ladies j/k:p

[Kel]

You are such a dork...:p and I think....I'm old enough to be your really young mother....LOL;)
Soooooo stick with Surfergirl...and enjoy the waves....LOL....I'll be happy to be Queen Mother...LOL

[Hunter Rider]

Soooooo stick with Surfergirl...and enjoy the waves....LOL....I'll be happy to be Queen Mother...LOL
You can Cyber-give her away..lol;)

[surfergirl]

i don't consider you an old lady Kel!

[Kel]

i don't consider you an old lady Kel!I don't consider myself an old lady either....LMAO....;)

But I am old enough to be a "young, hip" mom...for many of you on this board....LOL;)

[Hunter Rider]

I don't consider myself an old lady either....LMAO....;)
I just conisder you a sassy Southern Belle-lady:)

[Kel]

I just conisder you a sassy Southern Belle-lady:)
I am that as well...:cool:

[Lightning Strykez!]

Wow. So we have an aunt (Aunt Petunia) a mother figure (Albafan) a little sister (Kmack) and a Big Sister (SurferGIRL).

So what about the paternal male figures? And also, what does that make me in this FF family forum?

[Hunter Rider]

Wow. So we have an aunt (Aunt Petunia) a mother figure (Albafan) a little sister (Kmack) and a Big Sister (SurferGIRL).

So what about the paternal male figures? And also, what does that make me in this FF family forum?
The biotch...j/k:p
I guess your the Daddy;)

[Pyromania]

I guess your the Daddyhttp://www.superherohype.com/forums/images/smilies/wink.gifI second that.

[surfergirl]

we have a forum family how cool! :cool:

[Hunter Rider]

we have a forum family how cool! :cool:
well where do me and flight come in ?

[Pyromania]

I wonder what I'd be...

[Lightning Strykez!]

well where do me and flight come in ?

You two are definitiely the snotty-nosed, naughty bad-assed kids that are constantly starting stuff and need to have their asses whooped! ;).

[Lightning Strykez!]

I wonder what I'd be...

Everyone's favorite cousin and niece because you're such a sweet nymph.

[Head>On<Collider]

You two are definitiely the snotty-nosed, naughty bad-assed kids that are constantly starting stuff and need to have their asses whooped! ;).NONONONO........no.


I'm the dad............................AAAANNNDDD......... ................you're the son.




got it? good.

[Hunter Rider]

You two are definitiely the snotty-nosed, naughty bad-assed kids that are constantly starting stuff and need to have their asses whooped! ;).
:D :D :D just try it old man there's 2 of us:p ;)

[Lightning Strykez!]

NONONONO........no.


I'm the dad............................AAAANNNDDD......... ................you're the son.




got it? good.


No. Wrong.

The chicken cums before the egg muthaf@#!$&a. Now, you may call me "Papi" or "Father", or "Colonel"; it's your choice. ;)

And make sure your homework is done or else I will have to spank thine ass. Why can't you be more like you older brother Hunter? Damn.