Ioan Gruffud: Mr. Fantastic Threads Merged

[Head>On<Collider]

OK everyone, I'm jealous of Ioan Gruffud getting to be Jessica's love interest. Jealousy is not good. It's bad. I need to change. But the key to heal myself of such jealousy is to be able to look apon the face of whom I envy.I need to discuss and express my frustrations. And I also need to become accepting of who he is. Therefore I open the Ioan Gruffud as Mr. Fantastic thread. Hopefully I'll be fully healed by next July......

[Kel]

Soooooo wheres the BIO oh Reed???

[surfergirl]

OK everyone, I'm jealous of Ioan Gruffud getting to be Jessica's love interest. Jealousy is not good. It's bad. I need to change. But the key to heal myself of such jealousy is to be able to look apon the face of whom I envy.I need to discuss and express my frustrations. And I also need to become accepting of who he is. Therefore I open the Ioan Gruffud as Mr. Fantastic thread. Hopefully I'll be fully healed by next July......
i'm sure you will be fully healed and you will be able to accept Ioan for who he is and as Reed by July! after seeing him in interviews, whats not to love! he is definetly the most soft spoken member of the cast.

[Head>On<Collider]

Soooooo wheres the BIO oh Reed???Who is he?


Dr. Reed Richards is a scientist, who, prior to Issue #1 had
been working on a space craft, which was about to have its funding
cut off. In a last ditch attempt to get the flight off the ground,
Reed, his fiance (Sue Storm), his fiance's brother (Johnny Storm),
and one of his college classmates and a test pilot (Ben Grimm),
snuck through security to take the shuttle for a test flight. Turns
out that there wasn't enough shielding, and the Fantastic Four was
born.
Reed is the brains behind the FF, and he was basically their
leader for the first 381 Issues or so, until his "death". Since then
the team's leadership has come into question.
He and Sue were married in Annual #3, and their child,
Franklin was born in Annual #6. Reed's father, Nathaniel Richards,
was introduced in Issue #273.



What are his powers?


Reed has the ability to stretch or reform his body in just
about any way that he chooses. He can stretch to about 1500 feet
before the onset of pain. He can use his body as a sort of a
catapault for both objects and people; this catapaulting ability
can be used to fire projectiles back at their original firer. He
often uses his body to wrap around people that he wishes to detain.
He can reduce his molecular cohesion, and become a "blob" of sorts.
He can expand his body and use it as a makeshift glider. He can
slim down enough for his body to fit through the eye of a needle.
Mr. Fantastic is often considered the weakest member of the
group, although there he must have some element of super strength,
considering the people and items that he has picked up/catapaulted/
ferried, etc.

The Old Mr. Fantastic :

http://www.ocf.berkeley.edu/~arlen/reed1.gifhttp://www.ocf.berkeley.edu/~arlen/reed2.jpghttp://www.ocf.berkeley.edu/~arlen/reed3.jpghttp://www.ocf.berkeley.edu/~arlen/reed4.jpgThe New Mr. Fantastic :

http://www.ocf.berkeley.edu/~arlen/reed5.jpghttp://www.ocf.berkeley.edu/~arlen/reed6.jpg

[Head>On<Collider]

i'm sure you will be fully healed and you will be able to accept Ioan for who he is and as Reed by July! after seeing him in interviews, whats not to love! he is definetly the most soft spoken member of the cast.Well......I did think he was pretty cool in Titanic..............

[Head>On<Collider]

Ioan's Filmography:
http://www.ioanonline.com/video/taurusstuntshow.zip king arthur presentation clip
Film
2005 - Fantastic Four (http://www.ioanonline.com/gallery/view_album.php?set_albumName=album118) (Reed Richards/Mr Fantastic)
2004 - King Arthur (http://www.ioanonline.com/gallery/view_album.php?set_albumName=album49) (Lancelot)
2003 - This Girl's Life (Daniel)
2002 - Man and Boy (http://www.ioanonline.com/gallery/view_album.php?set_albumName=album07) (Harry)
2002 - The Forsyte Saga (http://www.ioanonline.com/gallery/view_album.php?set_albumName=album17) (Phillip Bosinney)
2002 - The Gathering (http://www.ioanonline.com/gallery/view_album.php?set_albumName=album16) (Dan)
2001 - Black Hawk Down (http://www.ioanonline.com/gallery/view_album.php?set_albumName=album15) (Ranger Beale)
2001 - Happy Now (http://www.ioanonline.com/gallery/view_album.php?set_albumName=album14) (Max Bracchi)
2000 - 102 Dalmatians (http://www.ioanonline.com/gallery/view_album.php?set_albumName=album12) (Kevin)
2000 - Shooters (http://www.ioanonline.com/gallery/view_album.php?set_albumName=album13) (Freddy Guns)
2000 - Another Life (http://www.ioanonline.com/gallery/view_album.php?set_albumName=album11) (Freddie Bywater)
2000 - Very Annie Mary (http://www.ioanonline.com/gallery/view_album.php?set_albumName=album08) (Hob)
1998 - Solomon and Gaenor (http://www.ioanonline.com/gallery/view_album.php?set_albumName=album05) (Solomon)
Nominated for an Oscar for Best Foreign Film, 2000 Academy Awards
1997 - Titanic (http://www.ioanonline.com/gallery/view_album.php?set_albumName=album03) (Fifth Officer Lowe)
Winner of 11 Oscars, 1998 Academy Awards
1997 - Wilde (http://www.ioanonline.com/gallery/view_album.php?set_albumName=album03) (John Gray)

Television
2003 - Century City (http://www.ioanonline.com/gallery/view_album.php?set_albumName=album52) (Lucas Gold)
2003 - Hornblower and the Hotspur (http://www.ioanonline.com/gallery/view_album.php?set_albumName=album27) (Commander Horatio Hornblower)
2000 - Hornblower II (http://www.ioanonline.com/gallery/view_album.php?set_albumName=album26) (Horatio Hornblower)
2000 - The Miracle Maker (Gwr y Gwyrthiau) (Voice of Jesus in the Welsh Version)
1999 - Warriors (http://www.ioanonline.com/gallery/view_album.php?set_albumName=album10) (John Feeley)
Winner: Best Drama, 1999 South Bank Awards
Winner: Best Single Drama, Royal Television Society Awards.
Winner: Best Single Drama Award, Broadcasting Press Guild Awards.
1999 - Love in the 21st Century (http://www.ioanonline.com/gallery/view_album.php?set_albumName=album06) episode "Masturbation" (Jack)
1999 - Great Expectations (TV) (http://www.ioanonline.com/gallery/view_album.php?set_albumName=album09) (Pip)
1998 - Hornblower (http://www.ioanonline.com/gallery/view_album.php?set_albumName=album21)(Horatio Hornblower)
Winner: Best Miniseries, 1999 Emmy Awards
Winner: Best Actor in a drama series, 1999 Biarritz International Television Festival
1997 - A Mind to Kill episode "Strange Territory" (http://www.ioanonline.com/gallery/view_album.php?set_albumName=album53) (Karl Stranger)
1996 - Poldark (http://www.ioanonline.com/gallery/view_album.php?set_albumName=album02)(Jeremy Poldark)
1995 - Double Exposure - A Relative Stranger (http://www.ioanonline.com/gallery/view_album.php?set_albumName=album50) (Nigel)
? - William Jones (Arfon)
1989-1994 - Pobol Y Cwm (Gareth Wyn)
? - Austin (Defi Lewis)

Theatre
? - The Decameron (A play at the Gate Theater)
? - Untitled Nick Ward Play (Royal National Studio)

Audio
? - Hornblower Audio Books
2004 - Essential Poems (to fall in love with) (http://www.amazon.co.uk/exec/obidos/ASIN/B000171RUO/aprilspalace05)
2002 - When Love Speaks (http://www.amazon.co.uk/exec/obidos/ASIN/B00006357N/aprilspalace05)
2002? - Siwan (http://www.sain.wales.com/english/new/newproducts/2002/07/2355.htm)
2000 - DK Read and Listen: Robin Hood (http://www.amazon.com/exec/obidos/ASIN/0789454629/aprilspalace)
1998 - Diana: A Dedication in Seven Ages (http://www.amazon.com/exec/obidos/ASIN/9626346574/aprilspalace)

[Hunter Rider]

wow flight..when you open a thread you certainly go all out.
I can understand your jealousy but remember you have a lady so take comfprt in that:)
Of all the cast he was the only one i was unsure of.I'm a big chiklis and Jess fan and julian is class in nip/tuc so again i was happy with the choice.I'd never heard of evans until i saw he'd got the FF part but i was just happy it wasn't paul walker..lol.
Now as for Ioan i know he can act but i'm just hoping he can keep his american accent all the way through as his welsh one is very strong.

[Head>On<Collider]

wow flight..when you open a thread you certainly go all out.
I can understand your jealousy but remember you have a lady so take comfprt in that:)
Of all the cast he was the only one i was unsure of.I'm a big chiklis and Jess fan and julian is class in nip/tuc so again i was happy with the choice.I'd never heard of evans until i saw he'd got the FF part but i was just happy it wasn't paul walker..lol.
Now as for Ioan i know he can act but i'm just hoping he can keep his american accent all the way through as his welsh one is very strong. Before they announced him for the role, who did you think they were gonna pick?

[Hunter Rider]

Before they announced him for the role, who did you think they were gonna pick?
Don't hate me but George clooney.I personally quite liked josh brolin for the role or michael weatherly.

[Kmack]

I wanted George Clooney for Reed soooooooooooooooooo bad before they started casting.

[Head>On<Collider]

I wanted George Clooney for Reed soooooooooooooooooo bad before they started casting.As for what I've read, I heard that back in January, they almost gave the job to Steven Soderbergh for the very reason that he'd be able to bring Clooney along. They even almost picked him over Sean Austin.:p

[Hunter Rider]

As for what I've read, I heard that back in January, they almost gave the job to Steven Soderbergh for the very reason that he'd be able to bring Clooney along. They even almost picked him over Sean Austin.:p
Soderbergh would have made the "look at us, how achingly cool are we" FF movie:rolleyes:
Wasn't there also talk of Renee Zellwegger as Sue ? *shudder*

[Head>On<Collider]

Soderbergh would have made the "look at us, how achingly cool are we" FF movie:rolleyes:
Wasn't there also talk of Renee Zellwegger as Sue ? *shudder*Sean Austin would've been perfect......he was probably too expensive.

[The Flash]

I like Ioan for Reed. He was very well cast. George Clooney would've been terrible.

[Head>On<Collider]

I like Ioan for Reed. He was very well cast. George Clooney would've been terrible.I think after B&R, Clooney swore off comic book adapts. for life. Poor guy blames himself for that movie.....:p :batman:

[Kel]

I like Ioan for Reed. He was very well cast. George Clooney would've been terrible.
I love George Clooney...ALOT!....but he would have been 53 by the end of the F4 run on the big screen......hmmmmmmmm......I need to go watch "Oceans 11"

[Head>On<Collider]

I love George Clooney...ALOT!....but he would have been 53 by the end of the F4 run on the big screen......hmmmmmmmm......I need to go watch "Oceans 11"you mean Ocean's 12? I'm sure gonna see it.Like you I knew there was nooooooooo frigginway he was about to do F4. People were just associating him with Mr. Fantastic because of his hair being white on the sides. Had they snagged him before Batman, and if he were younger, he would have revolutionized comic book movies with this role,. I loved him in "From Dusk 'till Dawn"! Clooney also LOOKS like a superhero!

[homestarrunner]

ioan will do a superb job, i have faith. a good thing to note is that he comes off o nthe screen as a leader but more importantly as a man who isn't afraid to admit he;s wrong every now and then despite how smart it he is and is able to keep the team together, he has that look about him.. damn why does this have to come out i nthe summer:rolleyes:

[Rebel_Ace]

Reed Richards in about another 40 years:
http://www.ncsoftware.com/images/SuperHeroNursingHome.jpg

[surfergirl]

Well......I did think he was pretty cool in Titanic..............
that's a step in the right direction! :p i am looking forward to King Arthur coming out on dvd i wanted to see it

[Ioan Fan]

First of all , thank you for starting this thread "flight26"!!

If you need to feel better, I suggest getting yourself over to www.ioanonline.com (http://www.ioanonline.com/) where you'll find a lot of others who suffer from your malady! If you want to "look upon that face" there is a huge Gallery of pics on which to gaze...some of which have already been posted here by "albafan" and myself.

As far as worrying about his strong Welsh accent (as showcased in the video link in the above filmography post) and whether or not he can pull off an "American" one....don't worry. Just check out this video link from ioanonline and I think you'll see that he does a great job. especially after listening to both links!.....

http://www.ioanonline.com/video/CCep2-c.zip

Other than the recent "King Arthur" film, most of his work has been in the UK. It's too bad that a lot of these projects are hard to come by to watch, as most are on PAL version of VHS tapes, if available. His best work, in my opinion, have been in these roles.....Solomon in "Solomon and Gaenor" which was nominated for an academy award for "Best Foreign Film".....and Lt. John Feeley in "Warriors".

Of course playing "Horatio Hornblower" was what finally made people sit up and take notice. It paved his way for getting his foot in the door and his subsequent gamble on moving to America and trying to make it in Hollywood. There's talk of continuing to make additional episodes, now that the estate of the author of these books, on which the series is based, has been settled.

From the statements of people who have worked with him, both cast and crew, to the lucky few fans from our own Ioan board who have had the pleasure of personally meeting him, they say he's the most down to earth, friendly, humble human being they've met. I just know he'll be the "Dr. Reed Richards you're all looking for in this film!

(BTW......just thought I'd mention that there are two "d's" in the spelling of his last name.)

[Kel]

you mean Ocean's 12? I'm sure gonna see it.Like you I knew there was nooooooooo frigginway he was about to do F4. People were just associating him with Mr. Fantastic because of his hair being white on the sides. Had they snagged him before Batman, and if he were younger, he would have revolutionized comic book movies with this role,. I loved him in "From Dusk 'till Dawn"! Clooney also LOOKS like a superhero!
Nooooooooooooo I meant "Oceans 11"...."Oceans 12" is the sequel.... and I didn't like "From Dusk 'till Dawn"...:cool:

[surfergirl]

i think Ioan is perfect as Reed, he has that handsome dorkiness look down :) i could see where they thought Clooney would be a good Reed though because of his age, look, name etc but i think Ioan was the better choice because Clooney would be really old by the end of the third movie. Ioan just fits in with the rest of the cast perfectly IMO

[Hunter Rider]

The real player vid doesnt work for me:( still the word of the ladies on the board is good enough for me:)

[Kel]

Ioanfan could probably do a much better Bio on Ioan than I can...so I'll leave this one to the expert...LOL

[Kel]

Ohhh BTW...I too think Ioan will be perfect for Reed...I first heard that Chiklis had the part of Ben and I was so excited...then I went to see King Arthur...and I thought who is that good-lookin guy playing Lancelot...later I found out he had the part of Reed and again I thought they made the perfect choice...I then heard that Jessica was up for the part of F4 and I knew they had a certain direction they were wanting to go with this movie and I liked the direction...I didn't know that much about Chris but after I saw him in "Cellular" I knew they had made the right choice...so to make a long story short...I'm excited about this cast...

[Obi-Ron]

Here's a question...has Marvel ever made any books that focus on Reed and Victor's pre-FF #1 days? Supposedly they were friends/rivals before Doom's attempt to contact his mother in the netherworld, but all I've ever seen are flashbacks of Doom's origin.

Since the movie will most likely reference a prior Reed/Doom connection, I was wondering if there was anything we had to connect it to, like the young Xavier/Magnus stories from the X-Men. Besides, wouldn't it be cool to see the two as young men teaming up against those pre-Marvel monsters like "Receptico, the trash can that walked like a man" ?

[Head>On<Collider]

Here's a question...has Marvel ever made any books that focus on Reed and Victor's pre-FF #1 days? Supposedly they were friends/rivals before Doom's attempt to contact his mother in the netherworld, but all I've ever seen are flashbacks of Doom's origin.

Since the movie will most likely reference a prior Reed/Doom connection, I was wondering if there was anything we had to connect it to, like the young Xavier/Magnus stories from the X-Men. Besides, wouldn't it be cool to see the two as young men teaming up against those pre-Marvel monsters like "Receptico, the trash can that walked like a man" ?Have you read Ultimate FF? I like your idea...F4 against Fin Fang Foom!

[Paradoxium]

Ohhh BTW...I too think Ioan will be perfect for Reed...I first heard that Chiklis had the part of Ben and I was so excited...then I went to see King Arthur...and I thought who is that good-lookin guy playing Lancelot...later I found out he had the part of Reed and again I thought they made the perfect choice...I then heard that Jessica was up for the part of F4 and I knew they had a certain direction they were wanting to go with this movie and I liked the direction...I didn't know that much about Chris but after I saw him in "Cellular" I knew they had made the right choice...so to make a long story short...I'm excited about this cast...
It went like this for me:

Gruffudd/McMahon - both very interesting choices, before the casting I was predicting Gruffudd would get a superhero film role

Evans - sounds good, unknown - big bonus (not a flavour of the month)

Chicklis - really good casting

Alba - wtf, the world is doooooomed :(

[Hunter Rider]

Alba - wtf, the world is doooooomed :(
i know your mod but i dont care...BITE ME:mad: :p

[Head>On<Collider]

http://www.ncsoftware.com/images/SuperHeroNursingHome.jpg
Priceless!!!^^^^^
Well as argumentative as comicbookgeeks are (us @ SHH), I being one, must humbly ask all of you to understand me at least expressing where I'm coming from here. I say this because the reason I diss Ioan the way I do even sounds lame even to me.....
Me being a 26 year old who sells his sculpture and does extra shoots (freelance100%) not only for a living but also to passionately be a guitar player/ song writer,I have to face a few realities that I'm sure many of you all here face just fine. The S>O>Bs (mainly with the sculpture, extras agents are pretty leinient) I constantly have to impress in order to recieve my paycheck with the most stupid minute details year after year have made me live in a reality that has made me see life like," OK, well it used to be me being the designer leading the way, now it's them deciding what they're gonna buy from me, I must only do the stuff they want...they lead the way." Money$$.
Marvel used to deal with the same ups and downs (only on a way larger level:rolleyes: ) as I'm sure you all know. Broke as hell at times but still relied on risky as hell projects that could have made a difference in whether or not anyone ate or not. Marvel silver age is one of my favorite success stories ever.They still almost lost their A**! As much as alot of people on these SHH boards despise Avi Arad, he is in fact responsible for pulling Marvel ent. out of bankruptcy. Now Marvel is juggling with Millions instead of thousands. It's as risky as the music industry.
Now back to the music industry, there once was a time as I'm sure you all know, where the whole industry was based on CD(/tape/record/8track) sales. Now it's live shows and performances(thanx to ol'WWW). A change in a band member could destroy everything! Ronnie James Dio will never hold up to Ozzy for Black Sabbath.Van Halen without David Lee Roth will always be "Van Hagar", Van Halen with Gary Cherone knocked VH off the chess set. Dave Navarro could have killed the Chili Peppers had John Frusciante not returned,, and NOOOOONE I know will ever accept Snoop Dog in Easy E's place fronting NWA> how many tickets are not gonna be bought here.........< So WHAT THE HELL DOES ANY OF THIS HAVE TO DO WITH IOAN GRUFFUD?
Lets look at Jessica Alba..... I don't just have a guess here. I have an educated guess here. After the news she was cast, I thought for about one whole minuit and then I was....SHE'S PERFECT!!. This came from years of doing what I do but also from looking at singers like the one from that 80's cheese metal band Krokus (they weren't that bad),in the same kind of light that Beavis and Butthead would look at him,"That Hairdo SUCKS! Look at his head" Every one who feels that way about Alba may not be about to rush out and go see the F4! Well, seeing who plays A major personality like Reed Richards is probably gonna bring some attention.....not always the best but oh, well. ..
Ioan just doesn't do it for me as Reed Richards. They could have picked someone better and it's not my job to find that perfect someone, it's theirs. I have given them the benifit of the doubt on a lot of thing so far, but I'm finding myself reminding myself..."oh they know what they're doing, think of how noone wanted Huge Jackman ..etc" DO THEY REALLY KNOW WHAT THEY'RE DOING? Risks is the name of the game in the movie making world, but...they really could have done better than Ioan.
Sorry, not convinced yet....thanks anyway.
Ioanfan, I promise to watch all the stuff you mentioned as it is within my convenience (but I will do so respectfully). Albafan, you need to rethink Clooney's performance in Dusk....
Surfer, I'm buying King Arthur ASAP.........
wat up Hunta?

[Hunter Rider]

Well flight i think i followed you reasoning and i can see where your coming from;) Hopefully he'll do a jackman for ya:)

[Iphus04]

Ioan Gruffud is an excellant actor, as anyone who saw his work on Hornblower can attest to. I feel confident he'll more than do justice to Reed Richards.

[Head>On<Collider]

http://www.sneakpeektv.com/sitebuildercontent/sitebuilderpictures/plasticmangreatgunsrubberband.jpg (http://www.milehighcomics.com/cgi-bin/welcome.cgi?wcomet)

http://www.sneakpeektv.com/sitebuildercontent/sitebuilderpictures/plasticmancarreycoverpolice_24.jpg (http://www.milehighcomics.com/cgi-bin/welcome.cgi?wcomet)



In the wake of Fox upcoming feature "FANTASTIC FOUR", and the big screen debut of the Marvel character 'Mr. Fantastic' (able to stretch EVERY part of his body into super-lithe positions), the ("Matrix") Wachowski Bros., Warner Bros and Steven Spielberg's Amblin are closer to greenlighting "PLASTIC MAN", based on the 1940's comic book character, pre-dating all other 'elongated man' super heroes.

Jim Carrey remains front-runner to portray 'Eel O'Brien' a reformed criminal who acquires the powers of 'elasticity'.

Created by Jack Cole in 1941, "Plastic Man" was published by Quality Comics, then to DC Comics beginning in 1966.


OMG:eek: :confused: So Is it really true that Plasticman got his powers from drinking Coke?

[Hunter Rider]

Nice pics flight and dammit i want some powers from coke;) .......A cola that is:p

[Kel]

It went like this for me:

Gruffudd/McMahon - both very interesting choices, before the casting I was predicting Gruffudd would get a superhero film role

Evans - sounds good, unknown - big bonus (not a flavour of the month)

Chicklis - really good casting

Alba - wtf, the world is doooooomed :(

Thats ok Par....C.Lee is still my favorite Mod.....LMAO...;)

[surfergirl]

Ohhh BTW...I too think Ioan will be perfect for Reed...I first heard that Chiklis had the part of Ben and I was so excited...then I went to see King Arthur...and I thought who is that good-lookin guy playing Lancelot...later I found out he had the part of Reed and again I thought they made the perfect choice...I then heard that Jessica was up for the part of F4 and I knew they had a certain direction they were wanting to go with this movie and I liked the direction...I didn't know that much about Chris but after I saw him in "Cellular" I knew they had made the right choice...so to make a long story short...I'm excited about this cast...
ditto :up: i think they chose the right people for all the parts and can't wait to see them bring the characters to life!

[Mr_Incredible]

Hi surfergirl.

[Head>On<Collider]

http://www.sneakpeektv.com/sitebuildercontent/sitebuilderpictures/ff5.jpg

Ioan (http://filmforce.ign.com/bond/articles/567/567367p1.html)as 007? Interesting.....

http://filmforce.ign.com/bond/articles/567/567367p1.html

[surfergirl]

Hi surfergirl.
hello :)

[Head>On<Collider]

http://www.ez-entertainment.net/Gruffudd_Ioan.jpg...

[Kel]

http://www.ncsoftware.com/images/SuperHeroNursingHome.jpg
Priceless!!!^^^^^
Well as argumentative as comicbookgeeks are (us @ SHH), I being one, must humbly ask all of you to understand me at least expressing where I'm coming from here. I say this because the reason I diss Ioan the way I do even sounds lame even to me.....
Me being a 26 year old who sells his sculpture and does extra shoots (freelance100%) not only for a living but also to passionately be a guitar player/ song writer,I have to face a few realities that I'm sure many of you all here face just fine. The S>O>Bs (mainly with the sculpture, extras agents are pretty leinient) I constantly have to impress in order to recieve my paycheck with the most stupid minute details year after year have made me live in a reality that has made me see life like," OK, well it used to be me being the designer leading the way, now it's them deciding what they're gonna buy from me, I must only do the stuff they want...they lead the way." Money$$.
Marvel used to deal with the same ups and downs (only on a way larger level:rolleyes: ) as I'm sure you all know. Broke as hell at times but still relied on risky as hell projects that could have made a difference in whether or not anyone ate or not. Marvel silver age is one of my favorite success stories ever.They still almost lost their A**! As much as alot of people on these SHH boards despise Avi Arad, he is in fact responsible for pulling Marvel ent. out of bankruptcy. Now Marvel is juggling with Millions instead of thousands. It's as risky as the music industry.
Now back to the music industry, there once was a time as I'm sure you all know, where the whole industry was based on CD(/tape/record/8track) sales. Now it's live shows and performances(thanx to ol'WWW). A change in a band member could destroy everything! Ronnie James Dio will never hold up to Ozzy for Black Sabbath.Van Halen without David Lee Roth will always be "Van Hagar", Van Halen with Gary Cherone knocked VH off the chess set. Dave Navarro could have killed the Chili Peppers had John Frusciante not returned,, and NOOOOONE I know will ever accept Snoop Dog in Easy E's place fronting NWA> how many tickets are not gonna be bought here.........< So WHAT THE HELL DOES ANY OF THIS HAVE TO DO WITH IOAN GRUFFUD?
Lets look at Jessica Alba..... I don't just have a guess here. I have an educated guess here. After the news she was cast, I thought for about one whole minuit and then I was....SHE'S PERFECT!!. This came from years of doing what I do but also from looking at singers like the one from that 80's cheese metal band Krokus (they weren't that bad),in the same kind of light that Beavis and Butthead would look at him,"That Hairdo SUCKS! Look at his head" Every one who feels that way about Alba may not be about to rush out and go see the F4! Well, seeing who plays A major personality like Reed Richards is probably gonna bring some attention.....not always the best but oh, well. ..
Ioan just doesn't do it for me as Reed Richards. They could have picked someone better and it's not my job to find that perfect someone, it's theirs. I have given them the benifit of the doubt on a lot of thing so far, but I'm finding myself reminding myself..."oh they know what they're doing, think of how noone wanted Huge Jackman ..etc" DO THEY REALLY KNOW WHAT THEY'RE DOING? Risks is the name of the game in the movie making world, but...they really could have done better than Ioan.
Sorry, not convinced yet....thanks anyway.
Ioanfan, I promise to watch all the stuff you mentioned as it is within my convenience (but I will do so respectfully). Albafan, you need to rethink Clooney's performance in Dusk....
Surfer, I'm buying King Arthur ASAP.........
wat up Hunta?
I cannot believe I read the whole thing....now to the point of Clooney's role in Dusk....his role was not the problem...I just don't like violent movies...thats all....;)

[Ioan Fan]

Here's a pic that should please both the guys and the gals. That's his girlfriend of almost four years, British actress Alice Evans.....


http://img.villagephotos.com/p/2003-10/432055/UKpremierec.jpg

[snazzy J]

Here's a pic that should please both the guys and the gals. That's his girlfriend of almost four years, British actress Alice Evans.....Wow, that's quite a revealing dress. I think I see a hint of a nipple.

[Ioan Fan]

Ioanfan could probably do a much better Bio on Ioan than I can...so I'll leave this one to the expert...LOLThank you albafan! Here it is.....

BIOGRAPHY........

Ioan Gruffudd (pronounced Yo-Awn Griffith) was born on October 6, 1973 in Cardiff, Wales to teachers, Peter and Gillian Gruffudd. Ioan is the eldest of three siblings. He has a brother Alun and a sister named Siwan. Welsh is Ioan's mother tongue, but like all people of Wales, they must master English as well.

He developed an early interest in performing. This interest was directed at music, rather than acting, and Gruffudd developed into an accomplished oboist and singer while he was growing up. At the age of eleven, he decided to give acting a whirl, and two years later, he became a professional actor with a role in the Welsh soap opera "Pobol Y Cwm" ("People of the Valley").

Gruffudd's interest in acting proved lasting, and he was accepted at London's Royal Academy of Dramatic Arts when he was eighteen. Graduating in June of 1995, he almost immediately got work. His early projects included: a role in The Decameron, a play at the Gate Theater; and in a 1996 UK tv detective series "A Mind to Kill" episode titled "Strange Territory". Winning a plum role as Jeremy Poldark in a remake of the popular British "Poldark" saga, in 1996, could have launched his career as a major star, but the film was not as popular as the original mini-series and no more episodes were scheduled.

The year 1997 was when Ioan started garnering notice from a world-wide audience. Simultaneously he played two supporting roles: John Grey in "Wilde" and the role that would win him acclaim from fans, Fifth Officer Lowe in the Hollywood blockbuster, "Titanic". Fans marvelled at his acting ability and good looks, as well as identifying with the character he played. Fifth Officer Lowe was the only person who went back to rescue survivors from the icy water.

It was his title role in "Horatio Hornblower" that catapulted Ioan to full-fledged stardom. An exquisitely made miniseries, Ioan's ability to embody the role of Horatio dazzled fans and critics alike. Other leading roles followed. He won strong notices for his performance in the role of Solomon in the 1998 film "Solomon and Gaenor", and that same year he earned additional raves for playing Pip in the 1999 Masterpiece Theater rendition of "Great Expectations". Ioan joined an ensemble cast, playing Lt. John Feeley in the 1999 BBC film "Warriors". He also played Jack, in the "Masturbation" episode in the controversial British series Love in the 21st Century in 1999. In 2000 he filmed "Another Life", where he played Freddie Bywater, and Disney's 102 Dalmations where he played Kevin. Ioan also stared with his friend Matthew Rhys in the Welsh made film "Very Annie Mary".

Other numerous films followed (see "filmography" at the beginning of this thread)

Ioan is 5'11, right-handed, and wears contacts. He's Christian and from all reports, is quite serious about his faith. His favorite sport is rugby and he used to play it as a teenager. His favorite bands are: Manic Street Preachers, Catatonia, Stereophonics, and Oasis. He enjoys going to the movies, the theatre, and the pub. He loves drinking beer and tea, but not at the same time of course. He's single, although he's been with his steady girlfriend, British actress Alice Evans for quite some time now. Currently, Ioan lives in Los Angeles with Alice while pursuing his Hollywood career.

Originating from Wales, Ioan’s dedication to his family and loyalty to his native country are apparent by his fierce determination not to lose sight of the important things in life such as family, history and culture. He is a strong promoter of Welsh education, and the arts.

(credit to ioanonline.com and yahoo for the bio info.)

[The Bruce]

Someone made a post about Plastic Man - Could you guys tell what this is (http://home.online.no/~bhundlan/scripts/PlasticMan.txt)?

[surfergirl]

thanks for the bio Ioan Fan!

[Head>On<Collider]

Someone made a post about Plastic Man - Could you guys tell what this is (http://home.online.no/~bhundlan/scripts/PlasticMan.txt)?Not too bad so far ( i've read 1/3rd)............being the worlds dumbest superhero and all.......... I like the way they described his polymerization and the way the room itself was distorting. The "W. brothers" have a good sense of humor.:D I wish we all had the whole script to the script they're using for F4. Can you score me one? If so please PM it to me.





Believe it or not, I read that article from ioanonline already before you posted it...I think he's even too Welsh for Hunter Rider........The photo is cute; Alice kind of reminds me of Linda McCartney. Serious though, I think Ioan is cool as hell, he kind of reminds me of myself, only alot prettier.:p :cool:

[Kel]

I knew you would do an awesome job on Ioan bio...IF thanks....

[Head>On<Collider]

Nooooooooooooo I meant "Oceans 11"...."Oceans 12" is the sequel.... So are you watching ocean's 12? :batman:

[Kel]

So are you watching ocean's 12? :batman:
Yep...

[Head>On<Collider]

Yep...Well, the reason I ask is because they're gonna have the BB trailer and.....I never knew for sure how you felt about The Bat. I have been seriously traumatized by B&R. So I must say I've come a long way to even look at Batman.Yes, I know:rolleyes: F4 is our favorite but in all fairness as a comic book movie fan's outlook (as I respect yours) what's your honest take?.:) Oh and I've been hunting for as many badgirl-friendly photos of Iowan, but not having any luck. He's too darn classy;)

[Hunter Rider]

http://www.efavata.com/CBM/images/human_torch.gif http://www.efavata.com/CBM/images/mrfantastic.gifhttp://www.efavata.com/CBM/images/invis_woman.gifhttp://www.efavata.com/CBM/images/thing.gif

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[Head>On<Collider]

http://www.efavata.com/CBM/images/human_torch.gif http://www.efavata.com/CBM/images/mrfantastic.gifhttp://www.efavata.com/CBM/images/invis_woman.gifhttp://www.efavata.com/CBM/images/thing.gif

----NoNONONO>>NONO! Ioan Pics Damnit! And anyone who can come up with such awesome DarkClaw pics certainly has no excuse but to post nothing but the best Mr. Fantastic art evr! WHERE'S YOUR HONOR BOY?

[Kel]

Well, the reason I ask is because they're gonna have the BB trailer and.....I never knew for sure how you felt about The Bat. I have been seriously traumatized by B&R. So I must say I've come a long way to even look at Batman.Yes, I know:rolleyes: F4 is our favorite but in all fairness as a comic book movie fan's outlook (as I respect yours) what's your honest take?.:) Oh and I've been hunting for as many badgirl-friendly photos of Iowan, but not having any luck. He's too darn classy;)
So I am thinking that you are asking my opinion of Batman????? Well I'm not a major Batman fan...I have seen all the Batman movies...enjoyed them for the most part...I really thought the first with Michael Keaton was the best...but I enjoyed looking at George, even if I didn't particularly enjoy his rendition of the Bat...as a kid I really had a hard time understanding why these heros wanted to keep their identity a secret, and why they never allowed themselves the freedom to find love...I guess thats why I love F4, those are 2 things that make them stronger I believe...so though I really have nothing against the Bat...he is not particularly interesting to me...but he is to others and that is fine with me....LOL...I'll help you out in finding photos of IOAN;)

[Hunter Rider]

NoNONONO>>NONO! Ioan Pics Damnit! And anyone who can come up with such awesome DarkClaw pics certainly has no excuse but to post nothing but the best Mr. Fantastic art evr! WHERE'S YOUR HONOR BOY?
*tips hat* "sorry mister flight sir":p

Ioan as mr F and his summer rival batman.

http://img67.exs.cx/img67/9328/20-batman_new1.jpg

http://img67.exs.cx/img67/7965/af-FF_ioan.jpg

Now i'll leave the Ioan Pics to the ladies but Will return with Mr Fantastic Comic pics;)

[Hunter Rider]

http://img50.exs.cx/img50/84/83-f4a.gif


http://img50.exs.cx/img50/968/50-fantastic_four.jpg



http://img12.exs.cx/img12/8069/a2-Mister20Fantastic.jpg

http://img117.exs.cx/img117/8555/48-mrfantastic.jpg

http://img77.exs.cx/img77/7039/7b-MrFantastic1.jpg

http://img33.exs.cx/img33/7263/04-mrfantst.jpg

http://img59.exs.cx/img59/4866/96-reed.jpg

[Head>On<Collider]

*tips hat* "sorry mister flight sir":p

Ioan as mr F and his summer rival batman.

http://img67.exs.cx/img67/9328/20-batman_new1.jpg

http://img67.exs.cx/img67/7965/af-FF_ioan.jpg

Now i'll leave the Ioan Pics to the ladies but Will return with Mr Fantastic Comic pics;)I meant Mr. Fantastic as far as you're concerned. The Ioan SHOUT was a broadcast. Your job is to score an acceptable supply of the finest eyecandy of Reed Richards out there. As soon as I've seen enough to my satisfaction, it will be then and only then when I finally post my long awaited long overdue here by popular demand "Why Silver Surfer had to learn the hard way not to mess with The Things woman thread".... ;) :p

[Hunter Rider]

That Thread sounds fantastic:p

This isn't art but i thought it deserved to be seen.:cool:

http://img48.exs.cx/img48/6738/c3-SILVERSURFER.jpg

[Head>On<Collider]

That Thread sounds fantastic:p

This isn't art but i thought it deserved to be seen.:cool:

http://img48.exs.cx/img48/6738/c3-SILVERSURFER.jpgYeah, I got that at walmart 7 months ago. You're dissappointing me:doom: I like the Mr. Fantastic one with the giant hands that could be used as a cupholder.;)

[ZippyChippy]

Ioan is a fine actor, and from all accounts, a really lovely guy. Intense jealousy prevents me from making any constructive comments about his girlfriend. As to his girlfriend's nipple...well, I heard nipples are the new black.

ZC

[Hunter Rider]

http://img44.exs.cx/img44/4949/99-ff503v3.jpg-

[Kel]

A few more little tidbits on Mr. Gruffudd...

Awards
• Won, Golden FIPA
TV Series and Serials: Actor
For the "Hornblower" series of films.

Trivia
Shares a flat in London with old friend and fellow Welsh actor Matthew Rhys

He played the oboe in the South Glamorgan Youth Orchestra for several years.

He learned Yiddish for his role in the film Solomon & Gaenor.

Had the honor of lighting the National Millennium Beacon for Wales in Cardiff City Centre for the New Year's Eve 2000 celebration.

Won the BBC Radio Cymru Showbusnesan Award for Best Actor. [28 March 2001]

graduated from London's Royal Academy of Dramatic Art

An Associate Member of RADA.

Lives in Los Angeles (for 2 years as of July 2004)


Real Life Quotes
'The arses on the trousers aren't very tight. They're very loose and baggy and I like tight trousers. And the shoes - the shoes have got a bit of a heel, and it's a strange sensation for a man. Especially when you're running.' He mimes a mincing trot. 'I am mighty Hornblower! Watch me run like a girl!'

On his Titanic experience: "Yeah, I was lucky because I didn't have to spend hours in freezing water. There weren't many people my age on set so Kate, Leo and I hung out together. We would pile into Leo's dressing room, which was full of PlayStations, mini basketball hoops and the like."

On Horatio Hornblower: "I think people are attracted to the character because he's not a hero in the traditional sense. He's not a natural leader, he's just a young man with a very bright mind. He's compassionate, he hates injustice and he will stand up and fight when he's pushed to the limit."

"I'm determined not to lose my name. It's who I am. It has neither aided my progress nor hampered it. It's just who I am. My character. . . My make-up. My culture and heritage is a very rich one. So what if it's difficult for people to pronounce? We all learned how to say Schwarzenegger."

[Kel]

http://img97.exs.cx/img97/531/da-ioan13.jpghttp://img83.exs.cx/img83/1561/2a-ioan8.jpghttp://img39.exs.cx/img39/1294/67-ioang02.jpg
Just a few more pics of Mr. Fantastic!

[Hunter Rider]

we need more jess:p

[Kel]

we need more jesshttp://www.superherohype.com/forums/images/smilies/tongue.gif
NOT ON THIS THREAD WE DON'T!!!!!!


http://smileys.smileycentral.com/cat/4/4_2_204v.gif (http://www.smileycentral.com/?partner=ZSzeb001_ZSxdm519)

[Hunter Rider]

NOT ON THIS THREAD WE DON'T!!!!!!




http://smileys.smileycentral.com/cat/4/4_2_204v.gif (http://www.smileycentral.com/?partner=ZSzeb001_ZSxdm519)
Well then get some in the Sue thread http://smileys.smileycentral.com/cat/10/10_1_102v.gif (http://www.smileycentral.com/?partner=ZSzeb001_ZNxdm22764GB)

[Head>On<Collider]

we need more jess:pnot a single picture of Mr. Fantastic:batman:

[Kel]

Well then get some in the Sue thread http://smileys.smileycentral.com/cat/10/10_1_102v.gif (http://www.smileycentral.com/?partner=ZSzeb001_ZNxdm22764GB)

I am only one person....I can't do 2 things at 1 time....I'm not multi-task oriented!... http://smileys.smileycentral.com/cat/10/10_9_205.gif (http://www.smileycentral.com/?partner=ZSzeb001_ZSxdm519)

[Kel]

My favorite couple these days....

http://img75.exs.cx/img75/7033/ec-cc015.jpg

[Hunter Rider]

Now i'm a romance cynic but that is sweet i can see the chemistry

[Hunter Rider]

not a single picture of Mr. Fantastic:batman:
What about the five i did of Mr Fantastic a few posts back ?:p

[ZippyChippy]

we need more jess

Speak for yourself. More Ioan is always a very, very good thing.

ZC

[Franklin Richards]

mmmmm.... Ioan.... <homershudder>


http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v418/AuntPetunia/mr_fan.gifhttp://img.photobucket.com/albums/v418/AuntPetunia/mr_fan.gifhttp://img.photobucket.com/albums/v418/AuntPetunia/mr_fan.gif

[Head>On<Collider]

Thank you albafan! Here it is.....

BIOGRAPHY........

Ioan Gruffudd (pronounced Yo-Awn Griffith) was born on October 6, 1973 ........................My birthday's on October 29th. I'm not much of a zodiac guy, but doesn't that mean we 're the same sign?

[Hunter Rider]

My birthday's on October 29th. I'm not much of a zodiac guy, but doesn't that mean we 're the same sign?
Happy belated birthday flight http://smileys.smileycentral.com/cat/28/28_4_10.gif (http://www.smileycentral.com/?partner=ZSzeb001_ZNxdm22764GB)

[Ioan Fan]

Believe it or not, I read that article from ioanonline already before you posted it
Well maybe parts of it! I don't want people to think I just "cut and pasted" it from that site. I spent close to an hour re-working several online bios that I found, editing and updating info. as I went.

[Head>On<Collider]

Well maybe parts of it! I don't want people to think I just "cut and pasted" it from that site. I spent close to an hour re-working several online bios that I found, editing and updating info. as I went.Oh, cool. I hope you don't think that's what I meant, I.F.I posted that to show that I'm holding true to my word here that I'll read up and give your boy Ioan every benifit of the doubt. I do like Ioan as an actor in general. He'll make a great James Bond and I'm looking forward in great interest how he adds to this movie. I had my doubts about Huge Jackman too. He turned out to not only bring Wolverine to Dirty Harrydom but also iconized the Wolverine to stand alone as a film presence in his own right. Maybe Ioan will do the same

[Hunter Rider]

Oh, cool. I hope you don't think that's what I meant, I.F.I posted that to show that I'm holding true to my word here that I'll read up and give your boy Ioan every benifit of the doubt. I do like Ioan as an actor in general. He'll make a great James Bond and I'm looking forward in great interest how he adds to this movie. I had my doubts about Huge Jackman too. He turned out to not only bring Wolverine to Dirty Harrydom but also iconized the Wolverine to stand alone as a film presence in his own right. Maybe Ioan will do the same
Ahh the sweet joys of a solo wolverine movie:wolverine ;)

[Head>On<Collider]

Speak for yourself. More Ioan is always a very, very good thing.

ZCYeah Zippy, the more pix you post, the better;)

[surfergirl]

i think there is a lot of chemistry between Ioan and Jessica in pictures I have seen. i definetly agree with everybody on that :up: also, i had to babysit tonight and the little girl had me watch 102 dalmations, staring none other than Ioan and his wife Alice Evans. he was excellent even though it was a very predictable disney type movie. he was the only character in the movie that seemed like a real person that you could relate too lol. so even with a poor script he played his role convincingly!

[Megatron]

You asked for the pics? ok here's a load of them!

http://www.zuhlu.com/ioan/horatio11.jpg
http://www.zuhlu.com/ioan/lancef.jpg
http://www.zuhlu.com/ioan/forff.jpg

mamma i want that mouth!

[surfergirl]

thanks megatron and welcome to the hype! :)

[Ioan Fan]

Oh, cool. I hope you don't think that's what I meant, I.F.I posted that to show that I'm holding true to my word here that I'll read up and give your boy Ioan every benifit of the doubt. I do like Ioan as an actor in general. He'll make a great James Bond and I'm looking forward in great interest how he adds to this movie. I had my doubts about Huge Jackman too. He turned out to not only bring Wolverine to Dirty Harrydom but also iconized the Wolverine to stand alone as a film presence in his own right. Maybe Ioan will do the sameOh no offense taken! That's not what I meant at all! Since a lot of what I did write was taken from the ioanonline.com bio, when you mentioned you had just read it, I wanted to clarify myself. I just didn't want it to look like I didn't have the time and took the easy way out and posted the entire bio by "cutting and pasting".

.....to stand alone as a film presence in his own right. Maybe Ioan will do the sameNicely put!

[VICTORVONDOOMX]

Poor casting. That is the dorkiest looking "hero" ever.

It should have been Alexis Denisof.

[Hunter Rider]

Poor casting. That is the dorkiest looking "hero" ever.

It should have been Alexis Denisof.

Yeah but Mr Fantastic is Dorky,That's part of his charm.

[VICTORVONDOOMX]

With that nose, he'd be a great candidate to play Plastic Man. Same profile!

...and Reed is not dorky... he's just not significantly socially sophisticated regarding intracultural iconography.;)

[surfergirl]

most people would consider a scientist dorky so Ioan is great for Reed. plus he fits well with the rest of the cast, Ioan will make Reed someone the audience can relate to

[Ioan Fan]

That is the dorkiest looking "hero" ever.

Hey, when was the last time you were featured in "People" magazine's top 100 sexiest stars? :rolleyes: http://smilies.jeeptalk.org/contrib/ruinkai/biglaugh.gif Ioan won the "Sexiest Import" category!

He also was the "Aqua di Gio" man of the year. I don't think they hand out awards to "dorks"! http://instagiber.net/smiliesdotcom/cwm/cwm/uhoh.gif

I respect your opinion, though, (even though I want to jump through the monitor and strangle you. LOL!!!... only kidding).

[surfergirl]

Hey, when was the last time you were featured in "People" magazine's top 100 sexiest stars? :rolleyes: http://smilies.jeeptalk.org/contrib/ruinkai/biglaugh.gif Ioan won the "Sexiest Import" category!

He also was the "Aqua di Gio" man of the year. I don't think they hand out awards to "dorks"! http://instagiber.net/smiliesdotcom/cwm/cwm/uhoh.gif

I respect your opinion, though, (even though I want to jump through the monitor and strangle you. http://instagiber.net/smiliesdotcom/otn/evil/mlaughevil.gif LOL!!!... only kidding).
he is sexy :up: :up: he is hot in a more "average" guy kind of way if that makes any sense. i love his "dorkiness!"

[Hunter Rider]

he is sexy :up: :up: he is hot in a more "average" guy kind of way if that makes any sense. i love his "dorkiness!"
love cheat:p

[surfergirl]

love cheat:p
sorry hunter rider lol i just had to defend Ioan :p

[Hunter Rider]

sorry hunter rider lol i just had to defend Ioan :p
It's Okay sweety...I forgive you:D ;)

[surfergirl]

It's Okay sweety...I forgive you:D ;)you're still # 1 :cool:

[Kel]

Reed is...

1). Main Entry: sci·en·tif·ic
Pronunciation: "sI-&n-'ti-fik
Function: adjective
Etymology: Medieval Latin scientificus producing knowledge, from Latin scient-, sciens + -i- + -ficus -fic
Date: 1589
: of, relating to, or exhibiting the methods or principles of science
2). Main Entry: dis·tin·guished
Function: adjective
Date: 1714
1 : marked by eminence, distinction, or excellence
2 : befitting an eminent person
3). Main Entry: chiv·al·rous
Pronunciation: 'shi-v&l-r&s
Function: adjective
Date: 14th century
1 : VALIANT
2 : of, relating to, or characteristic of chivalry and knight-errantry
3 a : marked by honor, generosity, and courtesy b : marked by gracious courtesy and high-minded consideration especially to women

AND IOAN ENCOMPASSES ALL OF THOSE THINGS ALONG WITH AN UNCANNY RESEMBLANCE TO REED...HE'S PERFECT FOR THE PART...

HE IS REED RICHARDS!

And they look great together!
http://img70.exs.cx/img70/9688/9f-cc060.jpg

[surfergirl]

Reed is...

1). Main Entry: sci·en·tif·ic
Pronunciation: "sI-&n-'ti-fik
Function: adjective
Etymology: Medieval Latin scientificus producing knowledge, from Latin scient-, sciens + -i- + -ficus -fic
Date: 1589
: of, relating to, or exhibiting the methods or principles of science
2). Main Entry: dis·tin·guished
Function: adjective
Date: 1714
1 : marked by eminence, distinction, or excellence
2 : befitting an eminent person
3). Main Entry: chiv·al·rous
Pronunciation: 'shi-v&l-r&s
Function: adjective
Date: 14th century
1 : VALIANT
2 : of, relating to, or characteristic of chivalry and knight-errantry
3 a : marked by honor, generosity, and courtesy b : marked by gracious courtesy and high-minded consideration especially to women

AND IOAN ENCOMPASSES ALL OF THOSE THINGS ALONG WITH AN UNCANNY RESEMBLANCE TO REED...HE'S PERFECT FOR THE PART...

HE IS REED RICHARDS!

And they look great together!


http://img70.exs.cx/img70/9688/9f-cc060.jpg

well done Kel!!! Ioan definetly does fit all of those characteristics & has Reed's look down as well. they make a great Reed and Sue i can't wait to see how their chemistry works out in the movie :D

[Kel]

http://smileys.smileycentral.com/cat/5/5_5_137.gif (http://www.smileycentral.com/?partner=ZSzeb001_ZSxdm519) thank you, thank you vury much!

[surfergirl]

http://smileys.smileycentral.com/cat/5/5_5_137.gif (http://www.smileycentral.com/?partner=ZSzeb001_ZSxdm519) thank you, thank you vury much!
^^^ that smiley is so cute! you are very welcome :)

we need more Mr. Fantastic love in here!

[Hunter Rider]

you're still # 1 :cool:http://smileys.smileycentral.com/cat/36/36_3_13.gif (http://www.smileycentral.com/?partner=ZSzeb001_ZNxdm22764GB) http://smileys.smileycentral.com/cat/36/36_3_11.gif (http://www.smileycentral.com/?partner=ZSzeb001_ZNxdm22764GB)

[Hunter Rider]

Reed is...

1). Main Entry: sci·en·tif·ic
Pronunciation: "sI-&n-'ti-fik
Function: adjective
Etymology: Medieval Latin scientificus producing knowledge, from Latin scient-, sciens + -i- + -ficus -fic
Date: 1589
: of, relating to, or exhibiting the methods or principles of science
2). Main Entry: dis·tin·guished
Function: adjective
Date: 1714
1 : marked by eminence, distinction, or excellence
2 : befitting an eminent person
3). Main Entry: chiv·al·rous
Pronunciation: 'shi-v&l-r&s
Function: adjective
Date: 14th century
1 : VALIANT
2 : of, relating to, or characteristic of chivalry and knight-errantry
3 a : marked by honor, generosity, and courtesy b : marked by gracious courtesy and high-minded consideration especially to women

AND IOAN ENCOMPASSES ALL OF THOSE THINGS ALONG WITH AN UNCANNY RESEMBLANCE TO REED...HE'S PERFECT FOR THE PART...

HE IS REED RICHARDS!

And they look great together!


http://img70.exs.cx/img70/9688/9f-cc060.jpg
as always kel you bring the goods:up:

[Head>On<Collider]

as always kel you bring the goods:up:It's nice to see someone is:batman:

[Hunter Rider]

It's nice to see someone is:batman:
kiss my a$$:p

http://img75.exs.cx/img75/6558/abFantasticFour.jpg

http://img90.exs.cx/img90/8928/8cfantasticfourcover.jpg

http://img117.exs.cx/img117/9674/52FantasticFourunthi.jpg

http://img77.exs.cx/img77/6375/b4ff.jpg

http://img46.exs.cx/img46/5619/32mrfantastic.gif

[Hunter Rider]

as with the others there not all solo Mr Fantastic but i think youll agree it's pretty cool artwork:cool:


http://img117.exs.cx/img117/3261/29MrFantasticAd.gif

http://img37.exs.cx/img37/6093/0dMrFantastict.gif

http://img77.exs.cx/img77/4664/a6reed.jpg

http://img77.exs.cx/img77/3116/21UFF01a.jpg

[Ioan Fan]

....ALONG WITH AN UNCANNY RESEMBLANCE TO REED...HE'S PERFECT FOR THE PART...No Kidding!!! http://smilies.jeeptalk.org/cwm/3dlil/eek2.gif.....


http://img.villagephotos.com/p/2003-10/432055/Ioancomparisonaa.jpg

[surfergirl]

No Kidding!!! http://smilies.jeeptalk.org/cwm/3dlil/eek2.gif.....


http://img.villagephotos.com/p/2003-10/432055/Ioancomparisonaa.jpg
thank you Ioan Fan! that needed to be done for any of those out there with doubts. Ioan is perfect as Reed :)

[Hunter Rider]

No Kidding!!! http://smilies.jeeptalk.org/cwm/3dlil/eek2.gif.....


http://img.villagephotos.com/p/2003-10/432055/Ioancomparisonaa.jpg
Did you cut that from the pic i posted ?

[Ioan Fan]

Did you cut that from the pic i posted ?Yes....am I in trouble?? http://instagiber.net/smiliesdotcom/contrib/Bizkit/ponder.gif When I saw the pic you posted it reminded me of one that I had in my file that was from his TV series "Century City". I thought the similarities were remarkable!

[Hunter Rider]

Yes....am I in trouble?? http://instagiber.net/smiliesdotcom/contrib/Bizkit/ponder.gif
Of course not,I just found them on google images i was just wondering If that was how you'd done it,I'm just glad my little post helped create your Cool work as it's the closest i'll get to doing manips or any of that stuff.:)

[Kel]

Yes....am I in trouble?? http://instagiber.net/smiliesdotcom/contrib/Bizkit/ponder.gif
No, I'll take care of HR....;)

http://smileys.smileycentral.com/cat/10/10_9_205.gif (http://www.smileycentral.com/?partner=ZSzeb001_ZSxdm519)

[Hunter Rider]

No, I'll take care of HR....;)

http://smileys.smileycentral.com/cat/10/10_9_205.gif (http://www.smileycentral.com/?partner=ZSzeb001_ZSxdm519)
check my post before you attack me little miss texas http://smileys.smileycentral.com/cat/36/36_1_28.gif (http://www.smileycentral.com/?partner=ZSzeb001_ZNxdm22764GB):p

[Ioan Fan]

Of course not,I just found them on google images i was just wondering If that was how you'd done it,I'm just glad my little post helped create your Cool work as it's the closest i'll get to doing manips or any of that stuff.:)Whew!

That was a great cartoon pic. I'm gonna post it on my ioan board.

It's not very hard to do once you know the basics. Just a matter of using the "crop" tool from your editing software. Most 'puters come with a basic program. That's all I use. I don't know the real high tech stuff.

I then just created a blank mat or canvas, and "cut and pasted" the two pics on it, after resizing the pics so they were the same length.

[Kel]

You posted it at the same time I was typing....I already told you I can't do 2 things a 1 time....

[Hunter Rider]

Whew!

That was a great cartoon pic. I'm gonna post it on my ioan board.

It's not very hard to do once you know the basics. Just a matter of using the "crop" tool from your editing software. Most 'puters come with a basic program. That's all I use. I don't know the real high tech stuff.

I then just created a blank mat or canvas, and "cut and pasted" the two pics on it, after resizing the pics so they were the same length.
Well it looked great and shows how right Ioan is for the role...Well done:up:

[Hunter Rider]

You posted it at the same time I was typing....I already told you I can't do 2 things a 1 time....
well i can do 2 women....*coughs*...things at once but i'forgive you miss tex-ass:p :)

[Kel]

well i can do 2 women....*coughs*...things at once but i'forgive you miss tex-ass:p :)
Now that was...*coughs*...funny....the 2 women part...*coughs*...;)

[Hunter Rider]

Now that was...*coughs*...funny....the 2 women part...*coughs*...;)
hey angelina on one arm jess on the other the 3 way hokie pokie is on the road baby!!! http://smileys.smileycentral.com/cat/36/36_1_8.gif (http://www.smileycentral.com/?partner=ZSzeb001_ZNxdm22764GB)

[Ioan Fan]

I photo manip this pic by adding the "throw pillow". Don't want to be thrown off this board!!!!. It's from "The Gathering".......

http://img.villagephotos.com/p/2003-10/432055/GatheringA1acoveredaa.jpg

Lucky Christina Ricci! http://instagiber.net/smiliesdotcom/contrib/guus/ogen.gif

[surfergirl]

this thread has just gotten sexier now didn't it lol!

[Kel]

hey angelina on one arm jess on the other the 3 way hokie pokie is on the road baby!!! http://smileys.smileycentral.com/cat/36/36_1_8.gif (http://www.smileycentral.com/?partner=ZSzeb001_ZNxdm22764GB)
:rolleyes: keep dreamin baby....keep dreamin.... http://smileys.smileycentral.com/cat/29/29_1_9.gif (http://www.smileycentral.com/?partner=ZSzeb001_ZSxdm519);)

[Hunter Rider]

:rolleyes: keep dreamin baby....keep dreamin.... http://smileys.smileycentral.com/cat/29/29_1_9.gif (http://www.smileycentral.com/?partner=ZSzeb001_ZSxdm519);)
I only Dream of You and surfergirl:p

[Hunter Rider]

I photo manip this pic by adding the "throw pillow". Don't want to be thrown off this board!!!!. It's from "The Gathering".......

http://img.villagephotos.com/p/2003-10/432055/GatheringA1acoveredaa.jpg

Lucky Christina Ricci! http://instagiber.net/smiliesdotcom/contrib/guus/ogen.gif
UGHHHH........Weve went from corn to porn http://smileys.smileycentral.com/cat/36/36_1_31.gif (http://www.smileycentral.com/?partner=ZSzeb001_ZNxdm22764GB)

[Kel]

UGHHHH........Weve went from corn to porn http://smileys.smileycentral.com/cat/36/36_1_31.gif (http://www.smileycentral.com/?partner=ZSzeb001_ZNxdm22764GB)


LOL....NOW THAT IS FUNNY!:cool:

[surfergirl]

UGHHHH........Weve went from corn to porn http://smileys.smileycentral.com/cat/36/36_1_31.gif (http://www.smileycentral.com/?partner=ZSzeb001_ZNxdm22764GB)
lmao :p

[Megatron]

thank you for the welcome, surfergirl!

and Ioan Fan, thanks for that comic con picture! she seems very comfy with him, that must be a good sign. i really wonder how the entire cast are with one another at the end of the day? i can see ioan and chiklis going out for a beer, they have that 'vibe' of being good pals.

[surfergirl]

thank you for the welcome, surfergirl!

and Ioan Fan, thanks for that comic con picture! she seems very comfy with him, that must be a good sign. i really wonder how the entire cast are with one another at the end of the day? i can see ioan and chiklis going out for a beer, they have that 'vibe' of being good pals.
you're welcome! :)

i could see the cast getting along and hanging out off set too maybe having dinner and things like that together. i can also see Ioan and Michael going out for beers together too :cool:

[ZippyChippy]

The topic of dorkiness compels me to post this:

http://www.shamelesstourist.com/hottestgeekever.jpg

I don't know which is sillier:

- someone claiming that Ioan's being dorky is anything but a beautiful, beautiful thing;

or

- someone else claiming that Ioan isn't dorky at all!

Ioan is, in fact dorky, and this quality is absolutely intrinsic to his preturnatural bodaciousness. This is not just any dork we are talking about. This is the Hottest Dork in the Universe (tm).

Good heavens, you people, grab a clue from the clue bag! ;)

ZC

[Ioan Fan]

The topic of dorkiness compels me to post this:

http://www.shamelesstourist.com/hottestgeekever.jpg

I don't know which is sillier:

- someone claiming that Ioan's being dorky is anything but a beautiful, beautiful thing;

or

- someone else claiming that Ioan isn't dorky at all!

Ioan is, in fact dorky, and this quality is absolutely intrinsic to his preturnatural bodaciousness. This is not just any dork we are talking about. This is the Hottest Dork in the Universe (tm).

Good heavens, you people, grab a clue from the clue bag! ;)

ZCAaaaaaaah...give the guy a break. ;) He just arrived in Tokyo at 7:00AM after a long "red eye" flight and hadn't gotten his contacts in yet. (I guess that's why they call it red eye!). http://instagiber.net/smiliesdotcom/contrib/ed/sec.gif He was totally embarassed at the way he looked, and he admitted to a few of our Japanese ioanonline.com members that he didn't expect anyone to show up that early to greet him. I do have to admit that he definitely needs a new pair of glasses, though!

[Ioan Fan]

and Ioan Fan, thanks for that comic con picture! she seems very comfy with him, that must be a good sign.
That was albafan, not me. Don't want to take the credit for something I didn't do!

That is a great pic of the the two of them. The chemistry seems right on.

[ZippyChippy]

He just arrived in Tokyo at 7:00AM after a long "red eye" flight and hadn't gotten his contacts in yet.

Contacts, schmontacts! As far as I'm concerned, he can do without
'em!

He was totally embarassed at the way he looked, and he admitted to a few of our Japanese ioanonline.com members that he didn't expect anyone to show up that early to greet him.

Good for him! Underestimating the madness of others shows refreshing naivetee!

I do have to admit that he definitely needs a new pair of glasses, though!

Touch. Not. The. Glasses.

<shakes head in disbelief>

I do hope that Reed puts on glasses at least once in this film, instead of stretching his eyeballs to compensate for near/farsightedness or astigmatism!

ZC

[Ioan Fan]

UGHHHH........Weve went from corn to porn http://smileys.smileycentral.com/cat/36/36_1_31.gif (http://www.smileycentral.com/?partner=ZSzeb001_ZNxdm22764GB)Just wanted to show that not all of his roles are the typical "choir boy" or in "G" rated films! :) This http://instagiber.net/smiliesdotcom/contrib/blackeye/SHOCKED.gifscene was only a few seconds of one of those typical three minute obligatory scenes in a film where "guy meets girl..... girl needs comfort...guy comforts girl.... guy and girl go to bed. The rest of the time the sheets were strategically placed in all of the "right spots". ;)

This film was a supernatural thriller and that scene did not show in the European version. I got my copy from someone that lives where the censorship codes were more lenient, like here, where a scene like that would probably only warrrant a "PG-13".

[Ioan Fan]

<<<Contacts, schmontacts! As far as I'm concerned, he can do without
'em!>>>

Well then he's gonna be walking into a lot of walls. http://instagiber.net/smiliesdotcom/otn/ez/ezhappydead.gif http://instagiber.net/smiliesdotcom/contrib/sally/lol.gif Bad eyesight, so I hear.


<<<Good for him! Underestimating the madness of others shows refreshing naivetee!>>>

That's what we love about him. Seems to come naturally.

There's a very popular story about him which he tells himself in interviews. Two women fans from America were over in London and found out where he lived. They rang his bell at a fairly late hour and I guess expressed their admiration for him. He didn't know quite what to do so he invited them in and asked them if they'd like a cup of tea! He said at the time he was just so flabbergasted. I don't think he'll be doing that any time again too soon. (although he is very accommodating to those fans he does meet).


<<<Touch. Not. The. Glasses.>>>

(shakes head in disbelief)

Sorry. I can't be swayed on this one.


<<<I do hope that Reed puts on glasses at least once in this film, instead of stretching his eyeballs to compensate for near/farsightedness or astigmatism!>>>

Ooooooooooooh...not a pretty sight! http://instagiber.net/smiliesdotcom/contrib/lilly/eek1bluegreen.gif

[ZippyChippy]

That's what we love about him. Seems to come naturally.

Amen, sister!

There's a very popular story about him which he tells himself in interviews.

Very familiar with it. Hopefully he's found better ways to deal with stalkers!

Sorry. I can't be swayed on this one.

Let us put our differences regarding the best corrective visual aids aside! We're Ioan fans with work to do: educating these heathen! ;)

ZC

[Ioan Fan]

Let us put our differences regarding the best corrective visual aids aside! We're Ioan fans with work to do: educating these heathen! ;)

Sounds good to me! http://mindscraps.com/s/contrib/dday/yes.gif

[Hunter Rider]

Sounds good to me! http://mindscraps.com/s/contrib/dday/yes.gif
Hey i'm not heathen http://smileys.smileycentral.com/cat/36/36_1_28.gif (http://www.smileycentral.com/?partner=ZSzeb001_ZNxdm22764GB)I just questioned his accent abilities:p

[Kel]

Did someone just call me a heathen???.....ohhh well....I've been called worse...LOL

[surfergirl]

i don't think you were being called a heathen Kel

[Kel]

i don't think you were being called a heathen Kel
Just making sure....:rolleyes: But I have been called worse...and I've been educating myself about Ioan over the past few weeks...therefore I am no longer a heathen from lack of knowledge about Ioan...now I could be called that for other reasons...maybe...;)

[Ioan Fan]

Hey i'm not heathen http://smileys.smileycentral.com/cat/36/36_1_28.gif (http://www.smileycentral.com/?partner=ZSzeb001_ZNxdm22764GB)I just questioned his accent abilities:pAh gee....no one mentioned any names! We won't try to pound it into your head too much that Ioan will be great as Reed. http://mindscraps.com/s/contrib/ruinkai/spanka.gif.

I thought I had posted a link to a video clip here where you can see Ioan in "Century City". Can't seem to find it even after doing a "search". He did an American accent in that and pulled it off very convincingly.

I'd go and link it now, but ioanonline.com has been down for three days after the server was hacked into. When it comes back up, I'll post it. Maybe it'll help alleviate some of the worries some of you have. (and then again, maybe not!).

[Kel]

Ah gee....no one mentioned any names! We won't try to pound it into your head too much that Ioan will be great as Reed. http://mindscraps.com/s/contrib/ruinkai/spanka.gif.

I thought I had posted a link to a video clip here where you can see Ioan in "Century City". Can't seem to find it even after doing a "search". He did an American accent in that and pulled it off very convincingly.

I'd go and link it now, but ioanonline.com has been down for three days after the server was hacked into. When it comes back up, I'll post it. Maybe it'll help alleviate some of the worries some of you have. (and then again, maybe not!).
Ohhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhh IF thats not a big deal....he will do fine....and don't worry about those with worries.....If I tried to expel all of the doubters about Jessica...I would be in an insane asylum right now....;) They'll come around...

[Hunter Rider]

Ah gee....no one mentioned any names! We won't try to pound it into your head too much that Ioan will be great as Reed. http://mindscraps.com/s/contrib/ruinkai/spanka.gif.

I thought I had posted a link to a video clip here where you can see Ioan in "Century City". Can't seem to find it even after doing a "search". He did an American accent in that and pulled it off very convincingly.

I'd go and link it now, but ioanonline.com has been down for three days after the server was hacked into. When it comes back up, I'll post it. Maybe it'll help alleviate some of the worries some of you have. (and then again, maybe not!).
Actually you did post the link,but it didn't work for me,and as kel will tell you i am totally convinced in the cast i'm jjust interested in his accent capabilities as bad accent's are a pet hate of mine:)

[Ioan Fan]

Actually you did post the link,but it didn't work for me,and as kel will tell you i am totally convinced in the cast i'm jjust interested in his accent capabilities as bad accent's are a pet hate of mine:)
Oh, O.K. I knew I did but started to doubt myself when I couldn't find it!

I wish you could hear that link. I think you'll be pleased, so don't worry.

[ZippyChippy]

Ah gee....no one mentioned any names!

Yes, no one mentioned any names! Please, don't be defensive about your heathenish ways. You can't help it, unbaptised in the Way of the Welshcake as you are. But don't worry, you will be assimilated by the time this is all said and done. Resistance is futile.

ZC

[Hunter Rider]

Ah gee....no one mentioned any names!

Yes, no one mentioned any names! Please, don't be defensive about your heathenish ways. You can't help it, unbaptised in the Way of the Welshcake as you are. But don't worry, you will be assimilated by the time this is all said and done. Resistance is futile.

ZC
LMAO:up:

[Kel]

Hmmmmmmmm Zipster over there is taking on the personality of Doom......I wonder how that happened???........

[Hunter Rider]

Hmmmmmmmm Zipster over there is taking on the personality of Doom......I wonder how that happened???........
NOOOOOOOOOOO!!!!!!!!!!!!!! Shes becoming a ...a....a....DOOMITE:eek:

[Kel]

NOOOOOOOOOOO!!!!!!!!!!!!!! Shes becoming a ...a....a....DOOMITEhttp://www.superherohype.com/forums/images/smilies/eek.gifOr maybe she's just wanting us to think she's becoming a Doomite...hmmmmmmmmmmmmhttp://smileys.smileycentral.com/cat/4/4_1_7v.gif (http://www.smileycentral.com/?partner=ZSzeb001_ZSxdm519)

[ZippyChippy]

Hmmmmmmmm Zipster over there is taking on the personality of Doom

Now, I'm pretty new here, so bear with me. Reading through some of these threads, I notice that this Doom fellow seems pretty well-liked. So, that, combined with his name, leads me to believe he must be a pretty nice guy. So being like him is a good thing, right?

Right?

ZC

[VICTORVONDOOMX]

No. No love for Doom here. :( -snif-

[VICTORVONDOOMX]

Hey, when was the last time you were featured in "People" magazine's top 100 sexiest stars? :rolleyes:

He also was the "Aqua di Gio" man of the year. I don't think they hand out awards to "dorks"!

1) Two years ago;)

2) Apparently they do :p

[Kel]

No. No love for Doom here. :( -snif-
Yeah about 4 threads worth......:rolleyes:

[Kmack]

Seriously, they are all over this forum...just look around;)

[VICTORVONDOOMX]

I was just being silly Kmack.

[Kmack]

Me too:D
But believe me, if Doom didn't have so many dedicated threads by his disciples:p then I would have started a Doom Discussion Thread when the rest of these threads started popping up:doom:;)

[VICTORVONDOOMX]

Bless you.

[Kmack]

And you in return:D

[Hunter Rider]

And you in return:D
Cool/Hot new avvy Kmack:up:

[Kmack]

Thanx!:D It isn't really new...and it took me ages to finally decide to change my Psyloke avvy for awhile.....I miss her already:(

[Hunter Rider]

Thanx!:D It isn't really new...and it took me ages to finally decide to change my Psyloke avvy for awhile.....I miss her already:(
well you could always alternate between the two;)

[Kel]

Thanx!:D It isn't really new...and it took me ages to finally decide to change my Psyloke avvy for awhile.....I miss her already:(
You could add a normal pic of Chris to your Avvy and it will be perfect...

[surfergirl]

Kmack your icon warrants 2 thumbs way up! :up: :up:

[Kel]

http://img124.exs.cx/img124/1403/E09.jpg
http://img22.exs.cx/img22/90/E26.jpghttp://img31.exs.cx/img31/1936/E29.jpg

[Head>On<Collider]

Ah gee....no one mentioned any names!

Yes, no one mentioned any names! Please, don't be defensive about your heathenish ways. You can't help it, unbaptised in the Way of the Welshcake as you are. But don't worry, you will be assimilated by the time this is all said and done. Resistance is futile.

ZC Jeeeeeez ZC, Not only are you a bigger fan of Ioan Gruffud than Ioanfan, you've done been brainwashed:p . Ioan would probably even say so....LOL;)
:joker: So, can you answer me one thing, if Ioan were so all powerful, then why is it only girls here praising him. Are you all that much materialistic and all about being skin deep that no heterosexual male is here sharing your same beliefs?

:mad: YOU'LL NEVER CONVERT US!!! ;)

[Kel]

Jeeeeeez ZC, Not only are you a bigger fan of Ioan Gruffud than Ioanfan, you've done been brainwashed:p . Ioan would probably even say so....LOL;)
:joker: So, can you answer me one thing, if Ioan were so all powerful, then why is it only girls here praising him. Are you all that much materialistic and all about being skin deep that no heterosexual male is here sharing your same beliefs?

:mad: YOU'LL NEVER CONVERT US!!! ;)
Because the guys around here are too chicken to admit they really like this guy....;)

[Head>On<Collider]

Because the guys around here are too chicken to admit they really like this guy....;)Hi Albafan.:cool:
I do like the roles he's done thus far. I just don't think he was the PERFECT choice.....you know me,................being a perfectionist and all plus I'm straight.............I'm sure Hunter thinks he's hot (or is just going with whatever Surfergirl says).:p j/k;)

[Kel]

Hi Albafan.:cool:
I do like the roles he's done thus far. I just don't think he was the PERFECT choice.....you know me,................being a perfectionist and all plus I'm straight.............I'm sure Hunter thinks he's hot (or is just going with whatever Surfergirl says).:p j/k;)
Hey watch it....:cool: Don't diss my kid...;)

[Head>On<Collider]

Hey watch it....:cool: Don't diss my kid...;)It was a compliment....besides you never know when I'll be stepdad.;)

[Kel]

It was a compliment....besides you never know when I'll be stepdad.;)
LOL.....:)

[Hunter Rider]

who's your kid kel?:confused:

wow there is some weird stuff on the ioan thread,:p

hi flight:D

[Kel]

who's your kid kel?:confused:

wow there is some weird stuff on the ioan thread,:p

hi flight:D
If you have to ask, we are a pretty sad family around here...:cool:

[Head>On<Collider]

LOL.....:)You know it baby....:cool:

[Hunter Rider]

If you have to ask, we are a pretty sad family around here...:cool:
Sorry i'm very confused,Flight wants to be stepdad to me and i'm only a year younger than him and me and SG are to old to be your kids unless you mean kid brother.....Ah yes mr fantastic thats what this thread is about,I think ioan will do a good job as long as the effects are good and don't make him look stupid

[surfergirl]

we are a happy dysfunctional family!!

[Head>On<Collider]

who's your kid kel?:confused:

wow there is some weird stuff on the ioan thread,:p

hi flight:DSurfergirl is AF's kid:cool: . Hi Hunter

[Head>On<Collider]

Sorry i'm very confused,Flight wants to be stepdad to me and i'm only a year younger than him and me and SG are to old to be your kids unless you mean kid brother.....Ah yes mr fantastic thats what this thread is about,I think ioan will do a good job as long as the effects are good and don't make him look stupidAll of our family roles here are subject to change from time to time.

[Kel]

I am old enough to be a young, hip mom to many of you...well the younger ones anyway....LOL

[Darko]

The age ratio for a young hip mother would beeeeeeeee............????

15-25??
20-40??
30-40??

[Kel]

The age ratio for a young hip mother would beeeeeeeee............????

15-25??
20-40??
30-40??
LOL...all of the above...of course....;)

[Head>On<Collider]

The age ratio for a young hip mother would beeeeeeeee............????

15-25??
20-40??
30-40??15-25: Washington State
20-30: Texas and most of USA
30-40: California

[Kel]

15-25: Washington State
20-40: Texas and most of USA
30-40: California
I disagree on 2 of those...;)

[Darko]

15-25: Washington State
20-30: Texas and most of USA
30-40: California

30-40???? For California???? More like 15-30.......

[Kel]

Well for women...

30 is the new 20
and 40 is the new 30...

Don't really know what that means...I just read it in Cosmo...

[Head>On<Collider]

30-40???? For California???? More like 15-30.......Actually, when a California mother says she's 22, she's really 15:p ; when she says she's 20-30, she's actually 30-40. When she's 40-up, she's telling the truth cause there's no more room for denial:p

[Kel]

Actually, when a California mother says she's 22, she's really 15:p ; when she says she's 20-30, she's actually 30-40. When she's 40-up, she's telling the truth cause there's no more room for denial:p

LMAO!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! WOW....thats so true...

[Kmack]

Okay, I don't know what you guys are talking about, but I'm sure its not about Mr. Fantastic:p

[Darko]

http://www.smh.com.au/ffxImage/urlpicture_id_1044927661149_2003/02/12/gruffudd.jpg
Ioan Gruffudd

Date of birth (location)
6 October 1973
Cardiff, Wales, UK
Mini biography
Welsh Actor Ioan Gruffudd (Pronounced YO-an GRIFF-ith) got his start at... (show more)
Sometimes Credited As:
Ioio Gruffoid
Filmography

Fantastic Four (2005) (filming) .... Reed Richards/Mr. Fantastic


King Arthur (2004) .... Lancelot
"Century City" (2004) TV Series .... Lukas Gold
This Girl's Life (2003) .... Daniel
Y Mabinogi (2003) (voice) .... King Bendigeidfran
... aka Otherworld (International: English title) (UK)
Hornblower: Duty (2003) (TV) .... Commander Horatio Hornblower
Hornblower: Loyalty (2003) (TV) .... Commander Horatio Hornblower
... aka Horatio Hornblower 3 (USA)
The Gathering (2002) .... Dan Blakeley
"The Forsyte Saga" (2002) (mini) TV Series .... Phillip Bosinney
Man and Boy (2002) (TV) .... Harry Silver
Black Hawk Down (2001) .... 2 Lt. John Beales
Hornblower: Retribution (2001) (TV) .... 3rd Lt. Horatio Hornblower
... aka Horatio Hornblower: Retribution (USA)
Hornblower: Mutiny (2001) (TV) .... 3rd Lt. Horatio Hornblower
... aka Horatio Hornblower: The Mutiny
Happy Now (2001) .... Sgt Max Bracchi
Very Annie Mary (2001) .... Hob
... aka Annie-Mary à la folie! (France)
Another Life (2001) .... Freddy Bywaters
102 Dalmatians (2000) .... Kevin Sheperd
The Miracle Maker (2000) (TV) .... Voice of Jesus (in Welsh version. Welsh title: Gwr y Gwyrthiau)
Shooters (2002) .... Freddy Guns


Warriors (1999) (TV) .... Lt. John Feeley
... aka Peacekeepers
"Love in the 21st Century" (1999) TV Series .... Jack (episode "Masturbation")
Solomon and Gaenor (1999) .... Solomon Levinsky
... aka Solomon & Gaenor (USA)
Great Expectations (1999) (TV) .... Pip
Hornblower: The Frogs and the Lobsters (1999) (TV) .... Horatio Hornblower
... aka Horatio Hornblower: The Wrong War (USA)
Hornblower: The Duchess and the Devil (1999) (TV) .... Horatio Hornblower
... aka Horatio Hornblower: The Duchess and the Devil (USA)
Hornblower: The Examination for Lieutenant (1998) (TV) .... Acting Lt. Horatio Hornblower
... aka Horatio Hornblower: The Fire Ship (USA)
Hornblower: The Even Chance (1998) (TV) .... Midshipman Horatio Hornblower
... aka Horatio Hornblower: The Duel (USA)
Titanic (1997) .... Fifth Officer Harold Godfrey Lowe
Wilde (1997) .... John Gray
... aka Oscar Wilde (Japan: English title)
Poldark (1996) (TV) .... Jeremy Poldark
A Relative Stranger (1995) (TV) .... Nigel Fraiman


"Pobol y Cwm" (1974) TV Series .... Gareth Wyn Harries (1987-1994)



Filmography as: Actor, Himself, Notable TV Guest Appearances

Himself - filmography

Quest for King Arthur (2004) (TV) .... Host
Dal: Yma/Nawr (2004)
... aka Still: Here/Now
The Orange British Academy Film Awards (2001) (TV) .... Hinself



Filmography as: Actor, Himself, Notable TV Guest Appearances

Notable TV Guest Appearances

"This Morning" playing "Himself" 16 July 2004
"Mondo Thingo" playing "Himself" (episode # 1.20) 15 July 2004
"Richard & Judy" playing "Himself" 14 July 2004
"GMTV" playing "Himself" 2 July 2004
"The Priory" playing "Himself" (episode # 1.6) 14 December 1999
"A Mind to Kill" playing "Karl Stranger" in episode: "Strange Territory" (episode # 2.6) 1996

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Is it me, or do all welsh people look older than they really are??? I mean, I once thought Christian Bale was 35-40, but it turns out the guy is younger than Paul Walker, who looks like he's barely turned 21!!! Ioan Grufford caught me off guard as well, he looks like he's also in his mid-30's, but really, he's only thirty one......:)

[Head>On<Collider]

Ioan DOES look 40 to me.........

[Darko]

http://sweb.cz/carreen/christian%20bale.jpghttp://www.omelete.com.br/imagens/cinema/news/atores/ioan_gruffudd.jpg

They do not look young, but they are. It's fairly ironic.
http://www.asianweek.com/2001_12_28/images/arts_movies_ocean.jpghttp://www.onlineshrine.net/walker/images/paul_walker.jpg

Young looking but old. In Paul's case, he's still young, but I didn't know he was that old......

[Ioan Fan]

Jeeeeeez ZC, Not only are you a bigger fan of Ioan Gruffud than Ioanfan, you've done been brainwashed:p .http://instagiber.net/smiliesdotcom/cwm/cwm/eek2.gif OMG!! Don't even go there! You don't fool with serious Ioan fans! http://mindscraps.com/s/contrib/edoom/blowingup.gif http://instagiber.net/smiliesdotcom/contrib/ruinkai/biggrinangelA.gif

I just don't want to embarrass myself here. http://instagiber.net/smiliesdotcom/otn/realhappy/biglaugh.gif Over on ioanonline.com, it's a whole 'nother story! http://smilies.jeeptalk.org/contrib/lynx/redwink.gif

[Kel]

http://instagiber.net/smiliesdotcom/cwm/cwm/eek2.gif OMG!! Don't even go there! You don't fool with serious Ioan fans! http://mindscraps.com/s/contrib/edoom/blowingup.gif http://instagiber.net/smiliesdotcom/contrib/ruinkai/biggrinangelA.gif

I just don't want to embarrass myself here. http://instagiber.net/smiliesdotcom/otn/realhappy/biglaugh.gif Over on ioanonline.com, it's a whole 'nother story! http://smilies.jeeptalk.org/contrib/lynx/redwink.gif
Awwww come on IF....let it all hang out!!!!!!!!! Or are you all talk.....;)

http://smileys.smileycentral.com/cat/10/10_5_2.gif (http://www.smileycentral.com/?partner=ZSzeb001_ZSxdm519)

[Ioan Fan]

Here are some screencaps that were taken from the "King Arthur" DVD that came out last week in Australia. The U.S. has to wait till Dec 21st. :(

I want to thank kathyf from ioanonline.com for these great caps! (used with permission)....

http://img.villagephotos.com/p/2003-10/432055/cap16HP500.jpg

http://img.villagephotos.com/p/2003-10/432055/cap18HP.jpg

http://img.villagephotos.com/p/2003-10/432055/cap20HP500.jpg

[Ioan Fan]

Awwww come on IF....let it all hang out!!!!!!!!!Don't like wiping drool off of my keyboard! http://instagiber.net/smiliesdotcom/contrib/geno/wink.gifhttp://smilies.jeeptalk.org/contrib/dday/laugh.gif



Or are you all talk.....;)That's the problem....all I do is talk!....proud to say I'm one of the top five posters on my ioan site. But you guys put my numbers to shame!http://instagiber.net/smiliesdotcom/contrib/sarge/Yikes_anim.gif

Being serious for a moment. I had no previous knowledge of the "Fantastic Four" comic book until our board announced that Ioan was going to be starring in it. I didn't want to cause any resentment amongst the die hard "FF" fans here, knowing I arrived here based on that fact. It's was a little intimidating, to say the least! It still is! For the most part, I like just sitting in the background and reading what you guys/gals have to say! I'll jump in from time to time if I have any Ioan news/pics to share.

I'm glad I found this site! I've learned sooooooo much info. about the comic, it's history, and the characters, (that's both the "comic book ones and some of you board members!) which I've passed along many a time to my Ioan site.

I guess this is sort of a "win-win" situation, in that we've all benefited from the exchange of these bits of knowledge....even though the percentage has probably been around 98/2 in favor of me learning a hell of a lot more about "FF" than you have about Ioan! :rolleyes:

[Hunter Rider]

http://instagiber.net/smiliesdotcom/cwm/cwm/eek2.gif OMG!! Don't even go there! You don't fool with serious Ioan fans! http://mindscraps.com/s/contrib/edoom/blowingup.gif http://instagiber.net/smiliesdotcom/contrib/ruinkai/biggrinangelA.gif

I just don't want to embarrass myself here. http://instagiber.net/smiliesdotcom/otn/realhappy/biglaugh.gif Over on ioanonline.com, it's a whole 'nother story! http://smilies.jeeptalk.org/contrib/lynx/redwink.gif
look what youve started flight....the ioan luv war:mad: :p

[Kel]

Don't like wiping drool off of my keyboard! http://instagiber.net/smiliesdotcom/contrib/geno/wink.gifhttp://smilies.jeeptalk.org/contrib/dday/laugh.gif



That's the problem....all I do is talk!....proud to say I'm one of the top five posters on my ioan site. But you guys put my numbers to shame!http://instagiber.net/smiliesdotcom/contrib/sarge/Yikes_anim.gif

Being serious for a moment. I had no previous knowledge of the "Fantastic Four" comic book until our board announced that Ioan was going to be starring in it. I didn't want to cause any resentment amongst the die hard "FF" fans here, knowing I arrived here based on that fact. It's was a little intimidating, to say the least! It still is! For the most part, I like just sitting in the background and reading what you guys/gals have to say! I'll jump in from time to time if I have any Ioan news/pics to share.

I'm glad I found this site! I've learned sooooooo much info. about the comic, it's history, and the characters, (that's both the "comic book ones and some of you board members!) which I've passed along many a time to my Ioan site.

I guess this is sort of a "win-win" situation, in that we've all benefited from the exchange of these bits of knowledge....even though the percentage has probably been around 98/2 in favor of me learning a hell of a lot more about "FF" than you have about Ioan! :rolleyes:
Well we are glad you are around definitely....and hey I came here with "Albafan" as my SN....to some that might have looked like suicide...LOL...but the people around here accepted it...and only talked behind my back...LOL J/K...I stayed through alot of complaints...mainly because I am a F4 fan....of the cartoon mostly...and knew some about the comic....I too have learned and immense amount of info. about the F4....and have enjoyed every minute of it....well almost every minute....early on was kinda tough...but its all good.....:cool:

[ZippyChippy]

Jeeeeeez ZC, Not only are you a bigger fan of Ioan Gruffud than Ioanfan, you've done been brainwashed.

I am as big a Ioan fan as it is possible to be without being a danger to society. That is my niche, teetering on a precarious knife-edge of sanity. I cannot speak for Ioan Fan on this matter. Only she knows how far she is willing to go. :rolleyes:

Ioan would probably even say so....LOL

Who cares what he says! He speaks Welsh half the time! Who can understand him?

So, can you answer me one thing, if Ioan were so all powerful, then why is it only girls here praising him.

Everyone knows women are way smarter than men, that's why? Sheesh! You had to ask? I rest my case!

Are you all that much materialistic and all about being skin deep that no heterosexual male is here sharing your same beliefs?

A little defensive, aren't you? Jealous? Good! Raise those standards to Ioan-like heights! Dorky's fine, but try to have a little style! Be polite and gracious, and speak with a delightful and slightly mysterious accent. Be sophisticated enough to appreciate the finer things, and yet enough of a hick from the sticks to fall for the old "fake traffic stop" trick. Then laugh at your own foibles in a warm, musical manner, accompanied by a smile containing enough megawatts to power Cleveland through the winter. That's all you need do! Don't feel inferior!

YOU'LL NEVER CONVERT US!!!

By the time your assimilation process is complete, you will have lost the capacity for such silly thoughts. Please, enjoy them now, while you still can!

ZC

[Hunter Rider]

Jeeeeeez ZC, Not only are you a bigger fan of Ioan Gruffud than Ioanfan, you've done been brainwashed.

I am as big a Ioan fan as it is possible to be without being a danger to society. That is my niche, teetering on a precarious knife-edge of sanity. I cannot speak for Ioan Fan on this matter. Only she knows how far she is willing to go. :rolleyes:

Ioan would probably even say so....LOL

Who cares what he says! He speaks Welsh half the time! Who can understand him?

So, can you answer me one thing, if Ioan were so all powerful, then why is it only girls here praising him.

Everyone knows women are way smarter than men, that's why? Sheesh! You had to ask? I rest my case!

Are you all that much materialistic and all about being skin deep that no heterosexual male is here sharing your same beliefs?

A little defensive, aren't you? Jealous? Good! Raise those standards to Ioan-like heights! Dorky's fine, but try to have a little style! Be polite and gracious, and speak with a delightful and slightly mysterious accent. Be sophisticated enough to appreciate the finer things, and yet enough of a hick from the sticks to fall for the old "fake traffic stop" trick. Then laugh at your own foibles in a warm, musical manner, accompanied by a smile containing enough megawatts to power Cleveland through the winter. That's all you need do! Don't feel inferior!

YOU'LL NEVER CONVERT US!!!

By the time your assimilation process is complete, you will have lost the capacity for such silly thoughts. Please, enjoy them now, while you still can!

ZC
anybody else worried about the mental stability of zippychippy?:p

[ZippyChippy]

Is it me, or do all welsh people look older than they really are???

...and then sometimes they get all tricksy on you and show up looking half their age. To whit, this very recent photo of Ioan:

http://www.shamelesstourist.com/underage.JPG

I don't know about you, but if I owned a 7/11 and this guy walked in and tried to buy cigarettes, I'd card him.

ZC

[Kel]

You would card him so you could get his address ya freak.....LMAO.....;) :p

[Head>On<Collider]

LMAO!!!!!!!!

I am as big a Ioan fan as it is possible to be without being a danger to society. That is my niche, teetering on a precarious knife-edge of sanity. I cannot speak for Ioan Fan on this matter. Only she knows how far she is willing to go. :rolleyes:
If I were Ioan and I heard that, I'd put a restraining order..........

Who cares what he says! He speaks Welsh half the time! Who can understand him?
I'm not too sure now whether or not you're....................well.....let me put it to you this way, THAT IS KIND OF LIKE SOMETHING ONLY A GUY WOULD SAY:wolverine Whassup w'dat?:p j/k (is this also a Rick James Fan?)

Everyone knows women are way smarter than men, that's why? Sheesh! You had to ask? I rest my case!
It's only the homely looking girls who have time to read alone in the library who are as smart as you.......cuz it takes their mind off of all the rejection:joker: But not you, You're the exception to the rule....:p

A little defensive, aren't you? Jealous? Good! Raise those standards to Ioan-like heights! Dorky's fine, but try to have a little style! Be polite and gracious, and speak with a delightful and slightly mysterious accent. Be sophisticated enough to appreciate the finer things, and yet enough of a hick from the sticks to fall for the old "fake traffic stop" trick. Then laugh at your own foibles in a warm, musical manner, accompanied by a smile containing enough megawatts to power Cleveland through the winter. That's all you need do! Don't feel inferior!

Well, I do get a little defensive around serious drug users; they may be fun to watch, but not too much fun to try engaging in any type of sub=quasi-intellectual conversation with.I'm jealous of you right now ....cuz whatever you're on, it seems like some real good S***. The rest of your paragraph, however, makes me feel sorry for your boyfriend."Dorky's fine, but try to have a little style! Be polite and gracious, and speak with a delightful and slightly mysterious accent. Be sophisticated enough to appreciate the finer things, and yet enough of a hick from the sticks to fall for the old "fake traffic stop" trick. Then laugh at your own foibles in a warm, musical manner, accompanied by a smile containing enough megawatts to power Cleveland through the winter. That's all you need do" MAN!!! POOR GUY!


By the time your assimilation process is complete, you will have lost the capacity for such silly thoughts. Please, enjoy them now, while you still can!
Silly? ....girl, you don't know silly.....you don't know the meaning of the word ,SILLY. SILLY IS MY MIDDLE NAME!!!!!!!!!:xmen:

Besides that ZC, you've got some good points and a good head on those shoulders of yours.....don't you dare stop posting.

[Ioan Fan]

Is it me, or do all welsh people look older than they really are???

...and then sometimes they get all tricksy on you and show up looking half their age. To whit, this very recent photo of Ioan:

http://www.shamelesstourist.com/underage.JPG

I don't know about you, but if I owned a 7/11 and this guy walked in and tried to buy cigarettes, I'd card him.

ZC



But just think of the advantages this attribute brings....he can play from 16-35!!

[surfergirl]

i can't see him passing as a teenager, but someone in his 20s yes!

[Head>On<Collider]

Guess what SG<:) thee ole chap is beginning to rub off on me. I'll see the light before you know it.:p

[Hunter Rider]

Guess what SG<:) thee ole chap is beginning to rub off on me. I'll see the light before you know it.:p
:eek:

[Head>On<Collider]

:eek:http://www.violentnation.com/visuals/blackbook/shut_up.jpg
Don't even go there!!!!!:p :wolverine

[Hunter Rider]

http://www.violentnation.com/visuals/blackbook/shut_up.jpg
Don't even go there!!!!!:p :wolverine
NOOOOOOOOOO!!!!!! im shocked that you....yes you....are being won over:p

[Head>On<Collider]

NOOOOOOOOOO!!!!!! im shocked that you....yes you....are being won over:pYou don't suppose I'm just becoming "whipped" do you?;)oh, and BTW, "NOOOOOOOOOOOO?" whats up with the tude Hunter? You were such a nice boy .....don't let ME rub off on you.:p

[Kmack]

http://www.asianweek.com/2001_12_28/images/arts_movies_ocean.jpg
Soooo hot!:eek:

[Hunter Rider]

You don't suppose I'm just becoming "whipped" do you?;)oh, and BTW, "NOOOOOOOOOOOO?" whats up with the tude Hunter? You were such a nice boy .....don't let ME rub off on you.:p
you whipped my brother never.....well unless you like that **** of course:p
my tude only pops out occasionally i was just messing.
you heard the news about the wolverine director ?

[surfergirl]

Guess what SG<:) thee ole chap is beginning to rub off on me. I'll see the light before you know it.:p
i am very proud of you Flight :D

[Kel]

Yep.....*shakes head*....the women....are showing their strength on this board....yep....LOL

[Head>On<Collider]

you whipped my brother never.....well unless you like that **** of course:p
my tude only pops out occasionally i was just messing.
you heard the news about the wolverine director ?who's directing?:wolverine

[surfergirl]

Soooo hot!:eek:
i agree i <3 Brad Pitt! :)

[Hunter Rider]

who's directing?:wolverine
wellthe rumour is that len weisman the lucky bastard thats lobbing it hot to kate beckinsale and directed underworld has been approached for the job,theres a thread on the X3 forum about it.

[Head>On<Collider]

Yep.....*shakes head*....the women....are showing their strength on this board....yep....LOLLMAO
yep..........I agree:p :p

[ZippyChippy]

You would card him so you could get his address ya freak.....LMAO.....

I'm shocked, shocked, that you would suggest such a thing! Is my reputation in this forum so completely shot already?

<weeps quietly in shame>

ZC

[Head>On<Collider]

You would card him so you could get his address ya freak.....LMAO.....

I'm shocked, shocked, that you would suggest such a thing! Is my reputation in this forum so completely shot already?

<weeps quietly in shame>

ZCnot at all!!:up: your posts are cool as hell.....:)

[ZippyChippy]

Yep.....*shakes head*....the women....are showing their strength on this board....yep....LOL

Once this particular thread on this particular topic was introduced, it was only a matter of time, you know... :)

ZC

[Kel]

Bumping to the front page......Zipster how could you let this thread go to the 2nd page.....you should be ashamed of yourself.

[ZippyChippy]

Bumping to the front page......Zipster how could you let this thread go to the 2nd page.....you should be ashamed of yourself.

In general, I like to wait until I have posted on a forum for more than a month or so before manipulating the boards so that my pet threads are always on top. But since you've given me leave, I'll start early! ;)

ZC

[Kel]

Well I think these 4 threads should stay on the front page...for information purposes as well as entertainment...

[surfergirl]

Well I think these 4 threads should stay on the front page...for information purposes as well as entertainment...
i agree with you Kel :) these need to stay on the front page

[Hunter Rider]

i agree with you Kel :) these need to stay on the front page
yep and the WOTW ones need to be closed IMO...No offense lightnin;)

[ZippyChippy]

<raises hand, wearing an expression of Reed-like gravity>

I do solemnly swear that I will never again let this thread fall from page 1 again, even until the ending of the world, or decomissioning of this BB, whichever comes first.

<lowers hand>

Goodness, I haven't taken an oath so solemn since I was sworn in as a Brownie.

ZC

[Ioan Fan]

I guess I better jump in here and help you out also ZC! I've been rather negligent myself. SHAME on me!

Thought I'd dig up some past screencaps of Ioan in various hair styles....some dating way back to 1995 and his first roles. (what I had to do to get my hands on these rare VHS tapes recorded by people in the UK!!) :rolleyes: .


http://img.villagephotos.com/p/2003-10/432055/Haircollageaa.jpg
1- "Strange Territory" (1997)

2- "A Relative Stranger" (1995)

3- "Poldark" (1996)

4- "Wilde" (1997)

5- "Titanic" (1997) wearing a wig that covers all of his real hair in pic #4! He filmed both at the same time.

6- "Shooters" (2001) wig (Thank God!)

7-"Black Hawk Down" (2001)

8- "Horatio Hornblower" (1999-2003) ponytail extension

9- "Century City" (2004)

10- " L'uomo" magazine shoot (2004)

[Head>On<Collider]

<raises hand, wearing an expression of Reed-like gravity>

I do solemnly swear that I will never again let this thread fall from page 1 again, even until the ending of the world, or decomissioning of this BB, whichever comes first.

<lowers hand>

Goodness, I haven't taken an oath so solemn since I was sworn in as a Brownie.

ZCdamn! :p

[Lord Valumart]

was Ioan in 102 dalmations?

[ZippyChippy]

was Ioan in 102 dalmations?

Was he ever!

I saw that flick three times in the theatres, so I feel highly qualified to make such a definitive answer on the subject.

ZC

[surfergirl]

was Ioan in 102 dalmations?

Was he ever!

I saw that flick three times in the theatres, so I feel highly qualified to make such a definitive answer on the subject.

ZC
3 times? wow! i saw it twice in a row babysitting one night when the Disney channel played it back-to-back.

[Hunter Rider]

3 times? wow! i saw it twice in a row babysitting one night when the Disney channel played it back-to-back.
have you recovered ..?

[Head>On<Collider]

have you recovered ..?how would you know that it takes recovery, Hunter?

[surfergirl]

i did need to recover! Ioan was the only one besides Glen Close that could act in the movie. if i wasn't so interested in seeing him act i wouldn't have survived the movie both times lol its a great movie for younger kids though. Ioan plays a dorky nice guy very well too

[Hunter Rider]

how would you know that it takes recovery, Hunter?
Ive seen It:D first was better....But ive never seen it twice in a row hence the recovery question:rolleyes:

[Head>On<Collider]

Ive seen It:D first was better....But ive never seen it twice in a row hence the recovery question:rolleyes:Ah, but you did see it once knowing very well the jist of the storyline and how it is solely for the sesame street croud . At least Gidget had no choice being that she was baby sitting as Zippy had no choice either being that she's an avid Ioan watcher.............so, what's your excuse?Huh?HUH?HUH?:batman:

[Hunter Rider]

Ah, but you did see it once knowing very well the jist of the storyline and how it is solely for the sesame street croud . At least Gidget had no choice being that she was baby sitting as Zippy had no choice either being that she's an avid Ioan watcher.............so, what's your excuse?Huh?HUH?HUH?:batman:
i watched it of my own free will as i like dogs:p

[Head>On<Collider]

i watched it of my own free will as i like dogs:pSo did you like Cujo?

[Kel]

So did you like Cujo?
:eek: OMG!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! St. Bernard's still freak me out.......I couldn't enjoy "Beethoven" because of that movie......

[Hunter Rider]

So did you like Cujo?
No that film smelled of rat piss......But i like sue thomas FBeye...Levi is "THE DOG":up:

[Head>On<Collider]

:eek: OMG!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! St. Bernard's still freak me out.......I couldn't enjoy "Beethoven" because of that movie......You think you're scared? I've got TRUE ST. BERNARD STORIES FROM MY CHILDHOOD:( !!!!!!!!!

[Head>On<Collider]

No that film smelled of rat piss......But i like sue thomas FBeye...Levi is "THE DOG":up:Nver seen.....It IS on cable now right?
:o So.......you like to listen to Snoop and 'Da Dog Pound? :rolleyes:

[Hunter Rider]

:o So.......you like to listen to Snoop and 'Da Dog Pound? :rolleyes:
I prefer eminem,kanye and 50 but snoop is cool.........dude we are way of topic..LOL:rolleyes:

[Head>On<Collider]

I prefer eminem,kanye and 50 but snoop is cool.........dude we are way of topic..LOL:rolleyes:I read all the trashy smut you and Lightnin' were posting with the pix.....over on the Sue thread, I've got a couple of questions:

1)where?
2) now that you'all are "beyond" that discussion, is it now appropriate or inappropriate to post the Cindy Crawford meets Mr. Fantastic pic? I mean there's nothing there any worse ............

[Hunter Rider]

I read all the trashy smut you and Lightnin' were posting with the pix.....over on the Sue thread, I've got a couple of questions:

1)where?
2) now that you'all are "beyond" that discussion, is it now appropriate or inappropriate to post the Cindy Crawford meets Mr. Fantastic pic? I mean there's nothing there any worse ............
if by where you mean are the removed pix..you'll have to ask lightnin as he's the one who moved em...beware pig sue with manbits though:eek:
in the answer to your other question...yes post it...it's just pure comedy and we need a lift on the ff forum...stick it in kel's thread as it fits with her and surfergirls call for positivity.

[Head>On<Collider]

if by where you mean are the removed pix..you'll have to ask lightnin as he's the one who moved em...beware pig sue with manbits though:eek:
in the answer to your other question...yes post it...it's just pure comedy and we need a lift on the ff forum...stick it in kel's thread as it fits with her and surfergirls call for positivity.Nah, I'm mean but not THAT mean.........

google safesearch....
http://home.ptd.net/~lyons777/mrfant.jpg
Anyway, this pic is rather stupid as hell as far as ...well..............WTF? Who put this together? When? Why Mr. Fantastic, and why Cindy Crawford? :confused:

[Hunter Rider]

Nah, I'm mean but not THAT mean.........

google safesearch....
http://home.ptd.net/~lyons777/mrfant.jpg
Anyway, this pic is rather stupid as hell as far as ...well..............WTF? Who put this together? When? Why Mr. Fantastic, and why Cindy Crawford? :confused:
not sure about who or when but as for why..i'd say mr fantastic cos it's funny that he can tweak her ass from a distance and then escape...as for cindy well maybe she was the in thing when it was done....I'd forgotten how hot she was and how great her ass was

[Kel]

not sure about who or when but as for why..i'd say mr fantastic cos it's funny that he can tweak her ass from a distance and then escape...as for cindy well maybe she was the in thing when it was done....I'd forgotten how hot she was and how great her ass was
Was?....please....

[Hunter Rider]

Was?....please....yes was... she's an old bird now..the clock has ticked and the cukoo of age has popped out and said "times up" she now just looks at jess and scarlett and crys in her mocha dreaming of the days when she was hittable and her ass had roundness...prove me wrong:D

[Head>On<Collider]

not sure about who or when but as for why..i'd say mr fantastic cos it's funny that he can tweak her ass from a distance and then escape...as for cindy well maybe she was the in thing when it was done....I'd forgotten how hot she was and how great her ass wasBeing Mr. Fantastic must be great.... He could tweek any woman, several at once, If his girl lets him, he could wrap her and cop a good feel from every inch.....:up:

[Head>On<Collider]

yes was... she's an old bird now..the clock has ticked and the cukoo of age has popped out and said "times up" she now just looks at jess and scarlett and crys in her mocha dreaming of the days when she was hittable and her ass had roundness...prove me wrong:DGuy at Work, is that you? What have you done with Hunter?

[Kel]

yes was... she's an old bird now..the clock has ticked and the cukoo of age has popped out and said "times up" she now just looks at jess and scarlett and crys in her mocha dreaming of the days when she was hittable and her ass had roundness...prove me wrong:D
You remember my top 10 count earlier today.....you are treading on very shakey ground......:mad: earthquake as a matter of fact...

http://smileys.smileycentral.com/cat/10/10_9_137.gif (http://www.smileycentral.com/?partner=ZSzeb001_ZSxdm519)

[Hunter Rider]

You remember my top 10 count earlier today.....you are treading on very shakey ground......:mad: earthquake as a matter of fact...

http://smileys.smileycentral.com/cat/10/10_9_137.gif (http://www.smileycentral.com/?partner=ZSzeb001_ZSxdm519)prove me wrong post a recent pic that shows she's still hot...anyway i heard she didn't like pumping so she's dull to boot.as well as old http://smileys.smileycentral.com/cat/4/4_15_5.gif (http://www.smileycentral.com/?partner=ZSzeb001_ZNxdm22764GB)

[Head>On<Collider]

prove me wrong post a recent pic that shows she's still hot...anyway i heard she didn't like pumping so she's dull to boot.as well as old http://smileys.smileycentral.com/cat/4/4_15_5.gif (http://www.smileycentral.com/?partner=ZSzeb001_ZNxdm22764GB)Hmmmmmmmmmm.......I sense a little wee bit of a tude there Hunter, I also notice how you coincidentally removed your " proud alba fan fan " thing from your sig.........does it happen have any thing to do with her shooting you down cold a week or so ago?:joker: