Spider-Man Beyond???

[SolidRoar]

Hi, Spidey fans.. I was checking out Moviehole when I found this:
A screenwriter pal tells Moviehole today that she's heard talk already of "Spider-Man" continuing on to have a fourth, fifth, sixth adventure and so on. What's envisioned is a "franchise beyond the planned trilogy stage, which Columbia Tristar has planned; less Batman Forever and Superman IV: Quest for Peace, more Batman Beyond". Could that mean Peter Parker might turn old mentor and train a new Spidey? Maybe - I suppose it's a way for Tobey Maguire to lay down the tights.
Thought you might be interested. :) Sorry, if it was already posted.

Link: http://www.moviehole.net/news/4700.html

[American_Hobo]

Is that mean they're trying to make Batman Beyond movie or something?

[Wargod]

Spiderman Beyond = Spider Girl

[American_Hobo]

Spiderman Beyond = Spider Girl
Oh okay..thanks...

[TheSlag]

When that day comes down the line, I would rather see a reimaging of SM1 through 3 like they're doing with Batman, that does the Gwen/MJ/Goblin Legacies justice.

[American_Hobo]

I hope they really make Batman Beyond movie though....

[Chris Wallace]

I wouldn't pay any attention to such a rumor. Some of this stuff is just red herrings, people.

[Alexia Dark]

I hope they really make Batman Beyond movie though....
Do you mean live-action? There have been at least two animated ones.

[American_Hobo]

Do you mean live-action? There have been at least two animated ones.
yes, live action.

I think Blight or Inque should be cool villain if they make one.

[The Dude]

Batman Beyond was great but i would be intersted to hear more of this idea.

[3dman27]

you don't think they'd base a spdey flick on spider-man unlimited?, the cartoon i mean

[BT18]

that would be idiotic and totally unfaithful to the comics. Just get new actors for Peter, Harry (if he's still alive) and MJ, who are all 22-to-25-ish, and you can get 3 more movies out of them. Keep the Bugle staff with the same actors if they want to come back, or all new actors if they don't. And introduce Black Cat, Eddie Brock, Alistaire Smyth, and Liz Allen to be new supporting characters for the second trilogy.

I mean, in the comics different artists draw characters different ways, so people would just have to accept that these are the same characters and I think it would not be a problem.

[Hyper Venom 2.0]

I think the message has been received wrong. I think what they were trying to say in the quote is that the future Spider-Man movies were not going to be done in the same style as Batman Forever and Superman 4, which is to say campy and overly comic bookish. By saying that it'll be more like Batman Beyond, I think they mean that it will be edgier, darker, and less like a kid's movie. At least that's what I got from it.

[Michael Jackson]

When that day comes down the line, I would rather see a reimaging of SM1 through 3 like they're doing with Batman, that does the Gwen/MJ/Goblin Legacies justice.
Batman Begins isn't a re-imagining of the previous films, unless you weren't actually saying that :confused:

Maguire turning mentor to train a new Spider-Man has to be one of the dumbest thoughts anyone could have. I don't need to explain that one.

[TheSlag]

Batman Begins isn't a re-imagining of the previous films, unless you weren't actually saying that :confused:

Maguire turning mentor to train a new Spider-Man has to be one of the dumbest thoughts anyone could have. I don't need to explain that one.


Re-imaging, re-do, do-over.... whatever you want to call it. I would prefer that approach to Spider-Man than say Spider-Man Beyond.

[Hyper Venom]

I think the message has been received wrong. I think what they were trying to say in the quote is that the future Spider-Man movies were not going to be done in the same style as Batman Forever and Superman 4, which is to say campy and overly comic bookish. By saying that it'll be more like Batman Beyond, I think they mean that it will be edgier, darker, and less like a kid's movie. At least that's what I got from it.
I like the way this guy thinks.

[Spider-Mania2]

i agree with hyper venom, and its kinda what i been saying all along, that these films are going to evolve from one to the next, i belive that the less its aimed at kids the better off the whole franchise will be. i mean the first couple of batman films werent aimed at kids and they were decent sort of films, i dont understand how S-M couldnt be like that.(by saying like that i mean edgy and dark, not campy and stupid)

[Silver Sable]

Do you mean live-action? There have been at least two animated ones.

Nah there was only 1 animated movie of BB

[Guyverjay]

Spider-man unlimited = crap

[Alexia Dark]

No, there's been two. One that came with the episode packs, and Return of the Joker.

[Silver Sable]

No, there's been two. One that came with the episode packs, and Return of the Joker.

You mean BB the movie which had the 2 pt episodes called Rebirth?

[Alexia Dark]

I'm not sure. I just remember seeing one with the eps, and the Return of the Joker(which kicked ass, BTW).

[OtepApe]

I think there's been ROTJ and then there was a feature length pilot that split into two episodes.

And yes, ROTJ did kick ass.

[Silver Sable]

I'm not sure. I just remember seeing one with the eps, and the Return of the Joker(which kicked ass, BTW).

Than it must have been the Rebirth one

[Lazarus440]

wait are they going to make a spider-man 2099 movie?

[Silver Sable]

wait are they going to make a spider-man 2099 movie?

I extremely doubt it

[SPIDER-MAN-ROX]

wait are they going to make a spider-man 2099 movie?

Only if they did it like the Terminator movies. Like Spidey's daughter being sent back through time to help him out in some way or what if she was sent back to kill him. Spider-Man movies like this could be made, but the question is would they be good or not? Making it a stand alone movie wouldn't effect the continuity of any of the stories & it would be a great way to get them both on the screen together.

[Silver Sable]

Only if they did it like the Terminator movies. Like Spidey's daughter being sent back through time to help him out in some way or what if she was sent back to kill him. Spider-Man movies like this could be made, but the question is would they be good or not? Making it a stand alone movie wouldn't effect the continuity of any of the stories & it would be a great way to get them both on the screen together.

LOL! that's good but we all know that won't happen

[Lazarus440]

Only if they did it like the Terminator movies. Like Spidey's daughter being sent back through time to help him out in some way or what if she was sent back to kill him. Spider-Man movies like this could be made, but the question is would they be good or not? Making it a stand alone movie wouldn't effect the continuity of any of the stories & it would be a great way to get them both on the screen together.
but that never happened in any of the comics and it sounds bumb, like WB batnipples dumb.

[3dman27]

there WAS something like that in the comics s-g was sent back in time to spder-mans first battle with the spider-slayer and replaced him in it

[Lazarus440]

there WAS something like that in the comics s-g was sent back in time to spder-mans first battle with the spider-slayer and replaced him in it
who is s-g?

[3dman27]

who is s-g?
spider-girl i was reffering to an earlier posts suggestion of a terminator like storyline

[ScottishFogg]

i think if they do a 4,5, or 6 and thye know they're not going to be able to get Tobey or any of the others, then i say take a jump forward in time. get new actors and base it more on the current story line. Peter's a teacher instead of a photographer. get an actor that's late twenties, early thirties. that way they can keep current continuity while forging ahead with a completely new one as well.

[Peter B. Parker]

No way will this happen. This will ruin the character. True, it would be nice to see Peter Parker as a old man, passing on the webs but I don't think it would work in the movies. The comics maybe but not the movies. Personally, I fell they would end it at a trilogy but Sony is greedy. I just hope they recast for 4 and try something that might be somewhat good.

[Dr. Bromwell]

Not Spidey as an old man. More Clark Kent/Bruce Wayne age like in the current ASM storylines. I can see that for 4, 5, and 6....you could even get Kris Kristopherson to be Ezekiel.

[Chris Wallace]

No!

[Cmill216]

Um...why revive this? :confused:

[Venom'sDad]

:rolleyes: So you would tell someone, that this been posted already, check the boards.... {nods head left<>right}.

[Cmill216]

:rolleyes: So you would tell someone, that this been posted already, check the boards.... {nods head left<>right}.

HAHAHAHAHA!!!! Hilarious!

Not. "Spider-Man Beyond" news from 2004. Awesome! :up:

[Reikowolf]

no batman beyond movie :(

as much as I like Bruce Timm's work on the DC universe, he was shot down when he wanted to direct Batman Begins

WB is hesitant to let a guy who works on cartoons direct a full length Batman live action movie.

To be fair tho
Mask of the Phantasm was much better than Batman Forever

[Cmill216]

Mask of the Phantasm was incredible. A Batman Beyond movie would have been pretty neat, but now we have the Begins series.

[Duende Verde]

Hasn't it occured to you that the guy from moviehole misquoted and wrote "Beyond" instead of "Begins"?

[Cmill216]

Hasn't it occured to you that the guy from moviehole misquoted and wrote "Beyond" instead of "Begins"?

What do you mean? Begins hadn't even come out yet when that was posted. :confused:

[Reikowolf]

Hasn't it occured to you that the guy from moviehole misquoted and wrote "Beyond" instead of "Begins"?


yes it did

but we assumed Beyond because they went on and said that Peter would serve as a mentor for the new Spider-Man?

[Cmill216]

Peter Parker might turn old mentor and train a new Spidey

Sounds like he's talking about Beyond to me.

[Duende Verde]

What do you mean? Begins hadn't even come out yet when that was posted. :confused:

But the movie was done or almost finished
yes it did

but we assumed Beyond because they went on and said that Peter would serve as a mentor for the new Spider-Man?

the author wrote the mentor stuff after confusing beyond for begins, he clearly got the "scoop" from somebody else.

[Cmill216]

Now that I read it, he could very well of mistaken them. True.

[Reikowolf]

But the movie was done or almost finished


the author wrote the mentor stuff after confusing beyond for begins, he clearly got the "scoop" from somebody else.

hmm, I'd like to see a source for it

but you seem to be right

good call

[Syncos]

It's perfectly acceptable for a progressing comic story to move on and have Peter to change careers and age and 'grow up'. However, the symbol that is Spider-man, that IS Peter Parker, is a young guy working as a photographer. That's how he's known. Even people who don't follow comic books, know Spider-man. and they know Peter, and what he does. Petey is a trademark of the generation, and changing that aspect in a live action movie would be a bad idea if you ask me.

[The Kid]

hell no to the idea of them doing a spider-man ulimited story. That was garbage. What we should get for the next ones are spider-girl movies starring Rachael Leai Cook.

[The Kid]

No!

ha ha. :D

[GoldGoblin]

They shouldn't change the spider-man character at least until after S-M6.

[Reikowolf]

Spidey would not give up the webs unless he HAD too.. remember: it's his resposibility to use his powers for good.

Only way I could see it work is with SG
mmm Rachael Leigh cook :D

but yeah, Peter was missing part of a leg by then.

[Chris Wallace]

That Should Never Make Its Way To Film.

[Reikowolf]

worse spin offs have made their way to film

as in Chronicles of Riddick :P

why couldn't they just leave it at Pitch Black?

[Silverstein]

okay so Peter gets old and starts loosing battles so he trains Arana to be the net highlander and she cuts off Eddie Brock's head and does the quickening. And then in order to beat carnage she has to kill Peter to be strong enough...

So then she becomes "Spider-Man Beyond" aka The Highlander.

[Reikowolf]

okay so Peter gets old and starts loosing battles so he trains Arana to be the net highlander and she cuts off Eddie Brock's head and does the quickening. And then in order to beat carnage she has to kill Peter to be strong enough...

So then she becomes "Spider-Man Beyond" aka The Highlander.

lol

and then Marvel goes under

[dr venture]

I think the message has been received wrong. I think what they were trying to say in the quote is that the future Spider-Man movies were not going to be done in the same style as Batman Forever and Superman 4, which is to say campy and overly comic bookish. By saying that it'll be more like Batman Beyond, I think they mean that it will be edgier, darker, and less like a kid's movie. At least that's what I got from it.

I never thought about it like that.......interesting

[The Kid]

Spidey would not give up the webs unless he HAD too.. remember: it's his resposibility to use his powers for good.

Only way I could see it work is with SG
mmm Rachael Leigh cook :D

but yeah, Peter was missing part of a leg by then.
Absolutely. Thats my dream movie... Ive always liked the idea of spidey passing the torche to his daughter.

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[Chris Wallace]

Are you aware just how long ago "She's All That" was? She can't pass for 16 now.

[Reikowolf]

:(

that makes me sad

[Silverstein]

Heh. The one thing I disliked about DC, was that like 5 people were all once the same persona. Like wally west, Barry Alan, etc etc were all The Flash. But only ONE guy was Wolverine. One guy was Cyclops or Hulk or Daredevil.

If you were to apply pseudo-realism into the comics or even the movie, then not only would he probablly not be able to have children. But if he did, the kid would only have half of his stregnth because their DNA would be a mix of MJ's too. (Think: DBZ, Gohan is a half sayajin and should therefore be half as strong. Same concept.)

Anyway, reading Spider-girl, I don't see everyone's enjoyment. I gave it a chance, hated it. People on these boards said try it again...I still hate it. I like Arana better. There's more possibility there. At least Arana is working on a WHOLE different level...Spider-Girl is just a female spider-man.

There's just nothing that makes it work on any level.


Obviously this is all my opinion, but I figure I should explain that before people flame me or something. "How dare you mock spider-girl!! What you said is so NOT true." "Umm...yeah it is. IMO!!" "Well my opinion is better than yours!!" (has happened before, trust me..)

[LarryLegend]

hell no to the idea of them doing a spider-man ulimited story. That was garbage. What we should get for the next ones are spider-girl movies starring Rachael Leai Cook.

Why not she'd only be 30ish by the time they did that? :rolleyes:

Dude what the **** are you smoking?

[The Kid]

Are you aware just how long ago "She's All That" was? She can't pass for 16 now.

yes she could. she's so small no one would notice she's in her late twenties.:down:spidey:but then it doesn't have to be exactly like the comics anyway...

It won't happen ever. I know. But I can dream dammit.......................................

[Reikowolf]

Heh. The one thing I disliked about DC, was that like 5 people were all once the same persona. Like wally west, Barry Alan, etc etc were all The Flash. But only ONE guy was Wolverine. One guy was Cyclops or Hulk or Daredevil.

If you were to apply pseudo-realism into the comics or even the movie, then not only would he probablly not be able to have children. But if he did, the kid would only have half of his stregnth because their DNA would be a mix of MJ's too. (Think: DBZ, Gohan is a half sayajin and should therefore be half as strong. Same concept.)

Anyway, reading Spider-girl, I don't see everyone's enjoyment. I gave it a chance, hated it. People on these boards said try it again...I still hate it. I like Arana better. There's more possibility there. At least Arana is working on a WHOLE different level...Spider-Girl is just a female spider-man.

There's just nothing that makes it work on any level.


Obviously this is all my opinion, but I figure I should explain that before people flame me or something. "How dare you mock spider-girl!! What you said is so NOT true." "Umm...yeah it is. IMO!!" "Well my opinion is better than yours!!" (has happened before, trust me..)


gohan was said to have more potential than goku except he got lazy... remember he was the first to go SSJ2.

also.. genetics don't work that way.
if a trait is passed on, it's passed on fully, or a variance of it... not half of it.

at one point, there were two spider-men (clone saga)

and every marvel hero has a multiverse counterpart (is it universe 616 or something like that?)

so yeah??
Don't know where you're going there

Spider-girl works on the principle of "the next chapter" old villains come back etc (electro & his daughter). Same reason why people liked batman Beyond

please elaborate.

[The Kid]

Why not she'd only be 30ish by the time they did that? :rolleyes:

Dude what the **** are you smoking?

I don't smoke. She still looks young though. i don't think it's so crazy an idea... if she looked like that kate person on Lost and I was saying this, i'd think I was a nut too.

I want a spidergirl movie, mainly because it answers an interesting question about how spiderman's kids with MJ would be...

[Silverstein]

What I meant was, I think that I just didn't like that "possible future". Like the story just entertain me and I think that certain things were just flawed and annoying.

I really think GG should die and then stay dead. Marvel should swear to us that they'll never use him again. Every single thing wrong with his life always ends up going back to GG. Ah he lost his leg...GG did it! Someone banged Gwen...GG did it.

It's almost like a joke.

Peter is like sitting at a desk. "Up next is--Hey someone cut off my mic" And you see Green Goblin holding the chord as that silly "wa wa waaaa" music plays.

Couldn't he have lost his leg with something awesome like fighting off galactus with all of the other heroes.

Couldn't May have been named something else? The same like 4 names just keep getting recycled. But fine whatever...let that one go.

What about the storyline? She should have completely new villains and side characters. The only returning people should be mj and pete...but oh wait you get a lot of the same.

It's probablly just me. But I find nothing interesting in that title. My eyes hurt right now trying to even think about it.

[The Kid]

They should do a cartoon series with Rachael as the voice for Mayday.

[Reikowolf]

Well if you don't like it, you don't like it... there are plenty of new villains in the title though.

how would spidey lose part of his leg fighting galactus?
*galactus pokes his leg with his giant index finger*
lol

I get what you mean though, a more meaningful fight?

every hero needs their arch nemesis.. I like the Goblin personally but you're right.. either keep him alive or kill him off permanently.

you have to remember that spidey is supposed to appeal to kids and teenagers for the most part... all the nostalgia fans have to remember that the text isn't supposed to be super serious and complex... but even for a comic, Spidey has become very adult... so I think we have to take it as is.

maybe marvel will end up making spidey into a more graphic novel style comic later?

[Turd McFurden]

i think there's a reason why spiderman unlimited, spiderman 2099, etc. don't sell well.

Look at Ultimate spidey, it's the same damn spidey, it works. period.

[The Kid]

I loved reading ultimate spidey years ago on Marvel.com. It had humor, action, and cool story all in a nicely drawn package.


Spiderman unlimited... I never understood why spidey ended up in some alternate reality thing wearing a silly cape thing... so it didn't sit right with me from the start. I don't know about spiey 2099 but it must have had similar problems.

[Silverstein]

I think I had Spider-man 2099 number 1 and ripped it apart because it sucked....it's probably worth money now lol like 100 bucks or something.

[Turd McFurden]

well if it was the gold foil print it be worth a little more the silver one but not as much as the platinum foil cover which was by the far the best of the 16 different foil covers they came out with.

Ahh, the 90s.

[LarryLegend]

I don't smoke. She still looks young though. i don't think it's so crazy an idea... if she looked like that kate person on Lost and I was saying this, i'd think I was a nut too.

I want a spidergirl movie, mainly because it answers an interesting question about how spiderman's kids with MJ would be...

Dude, the average movie goer doesn't give a **** about how Peter and MJ's kids would be.

As for Rachel Leigh Cook, go on IMDB and look at some recent pictures. She don't look that young and can't pass for a teen anymore.

[Reikowolf]

Dude, the average movie goer doesn't give a **** about how Peter and MJ's kids would be.

As for Rachel Leigh Cook, go on IMDB and look at some recent pictures. She don't look that young and can't pass for a teen anymore.

In a culture where people in their 30's can play teenagers.....I think she can pull it off.


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