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Colossal Spoons
12-29-2004, 03:24 AM
I think it's about time I made my first obscure, off the wall, random, thread for all you hypsters to discuss.

Guys, what if your girlfriend of 3 years; who you planned on proposing to in the near future...was once a man. I mean he had a sex change, complete with hormones and numerous surgeries. Would you want "her" to tell you or keep you in the dark? And if you'd want "her" to tell you, would you stay in the relationship?

This is one of those things that you need to know but not sure if you want to know. I'm curious as to some of your responses.

Bathrat
12-29-2004, 03:25 AM
i'll take what i can get

Colossal Spoons
12-29-2004, 03:27 AM
as in...you'd not wanna know as long as you get some?

Wiseman
12-29-2004, 03:36 AM
It wouldn't bother me. I've said this in another thread, but the only reason I'm not gay is because I have no attraction to guys whatsoever. I love women. It has nothing to do with me thinking that being gay is wrong or me being confused with my sexuality. So if I met a girl that I really fell for and it turns out she was a man before, it wouldn't bother me one bit. I mean, obviously if I was engaged to her I'd have already been having sex with her and if she could get me off before then I must be attracted to her.

BK
12-29-2004, 03:36 AM
F that, this would be a rare thing, but for this type of situation, I'ma have to go against Mario Winans and say that 'I DO Wanna Know'. :o

Kaleb
12-29-2004, 03:40 AM
yip Mario Winans advice gets thrown out the window for me as well ''I do wanna know''

Colossal Spoons
12-29-2004, 03:43 AM
Ok well after you find out, is the relationship done? Is 112 gonna have to come in and sing "It's Over Now"? Heh

Kaleb
12-29-2004, 03:46 AM
yes , for the fact that it was kept from me for so long.

BK
12-29-2004, 03:48 AM
Ok well after you find out, is the relationship done? Is 112 gonna have to come in and sing "It's Over Now"? Heh
The mere thought of it just sickens me. :( But yes, it'd definitely be over if I was 100% sure it was true.







You're not...going through a similar situation...are you....? http://www.superherohype.com/forums/images/smilies/redface1.gif

Ahura Mazda
12-29-2004, 04:17 AM
I don't know what the hell I would do. I would be shocked but if I was in love then who knows my reaction. My initial thoughts are not positive but then again I currently am not in love with somebody who tells me she was once a he.

Plus there are other implications like what about if I wanted to be a father one day....

dusk20
12-29-2004, 06:49 AM
I would go on the Jerry Springer show just to get on TV and then try and kick the **** out of her. Then when I get home, try and win her back after I notice I cant get anyone else.

thebat7
12-29-2004, 07:03 AM
Jerry! Jerry!

Spider-Fett
12-29-2004, 07:11 AM
I would want to know, and then "he/she" would be gone.

You don't keep that from someone you love.

DIRECTOR
12-29-2004, 07:30 AM
i wouldn't want to know, because i will be freaked out. What i would want her to do is break up with me maybe in the first year, instead of tricking me for 3 years. Just because she (he) had a sex change doesn't mean he changed his BRAIN as well, it's still a man's, no matter what you do.

kane9321
12-29-2004, 08:08 AM
Yes tell me the truth....and yeah..i've invested 3 years of my life with this person...i'd stay

Erzengel
12-29-2004, 08:11 AM
I think it's about time I made my first obscure, off the wall, random, thread for all you hypsters to discuss.

Guys, what if your girlfriend of 3 years; who you planned on proposing to in the near future...was once a man. I mean he had a sex change, complete with hormones and numerous surgeries. Would you want "her" to tell you or keep you in the dark? And if you'd want "her" to tell you, would you stay in the relationship?

This is one of those things that you need to know but not sure if you want to know. I'm curious as to some of your responses.
Of course the lack of periods over a 3 year period wouldn't be a sign. Or the fact that her adam's apple was a lil bigger than yours. :D

Danalys
12-29-2004, 08:15 AM
i honestly don't think you can ever get to this hypothetical sitution. smell would be the biggest reason. smells send strong subconsious signals to others that let them know alot about you including your sex. sure these smells can be masked with perfume. but not for 3 years. not in an intimate relationship. you'd get to the point where you'd think something was wrong. start not finding them attractive. and only loving them platonically.

Danalys
12-29-2004, 08:16 AM
Of course the lack of periods over a 3 year period wouldn't be a sign. Or the fact that her adam's apple was a lil bigger than yours. :D

wouldn't she have to lube up if you were to have sex as well.

The Kingpin
12-29-2004, 08:17 AM
The relationsuip would be done, because "she" is still a man. The physical appearance would be the only difference.

Golgo-13
12-29-2004, 08:19 AM
That's why you never marry someone unless you've seen pictures of them when they were a baby and, met and get acquainted with their family members.

The Kingpin
12-29-2004, 08:20 AM
Can you really tell the gender of a baby, besides clothes which could be switched?

Erzengel
12-29-2004, 08:22 AM
Can you really tell the gender of a baby, besides clothes which could be switched?
I think he just means from when the person was younger.

Golgo-13
12-29-2004, 08:24 AM
Can you really tell the gender of a baby, besides clothes which could be switched?
i meant like as a child..her playing around in the park and whatnot.

Spider-Fett
12-29-2004, 08:29 AM
If you have been with the person sexually for 3 years and you can't tell they were once a man....then you are an idiot.

thebat7
12-29-2004, 08:35 AM
If you have been with the person sexually for 3 years and you can't tell they were once a man....then you are an idiot.

Actually...when they do a sex-change now, they can turn your manhood into a fully functioning *woman part*

In fact, the new *woman part* is sensitive enough to trigger orgasms in the new female body.

Combine that with hormone therapy and implants and you'd never know the difference when having sex.

Anguissette1979
12-29-2004, 08:36 AM
Well I would think that it would certainly have an impact and she'd HAVE to tell you. What if you wanted to try to have kids? I know there's adoption but she'd have a tough time explaining why she couldn't get pregnant... and then visits to fertility clinics would bring the whole situation out then and that would NOT be pretty. :(

GLfan
12-29-2004, 08:36 AM
The relationsuip would be done, because "she" is still a man. The physical appearance would be the only difference.Plus you could not have any kids with her.

Spider-Fett
12-29-2004, 08:37 AM
Actually...when they do a sex-change now, they can turn your manhood into a fully functioning *woman part*

In fact, the new *woman part* is sensitive enough to trigger orgasms in the new female body.

Combine that with hormone therapy and implants and you'd never know the difference when having sex.


The answers no you Canadian ponch!

Erzengel
12-29-2004, 08:38 AM
Actually...when they do a sex-change now, they can turn your manhood into a fully functioning *woman part*

In fact, the new *woman part* is sensitive enough to trigger orgasms in the new female body.

Combine that with hormone therapy and implants and you'd never know the difference when having sex.But c'mon, any guy on here who's had an ongoing intimate relationship with a girl has had to have a lil blood on their tool at one time or another because of her menstrual cycle. You really can't fake that.

slipalong
12-29-2004, 08:39 AM
I wouldn't necessarily finish it with them for the reason that they were once a fella, but having the chance to have children disappear if I stayed with them...

That would take some serious consideration to say the least.

thebat7
12-29-2004, 08:43 AM
All I'm saying is that it wouldn't be as obvious as you'd think...Spider Fett

Anguissette1979
12-29-2004, 08:45 AM
I agree with you thebat... the things they can do with surgery these days would blow your mind!!!

Spider-Fett
12-29-2004, 08:49 AM
All I'm saying is that it wouldn't be as obvious as you'd think...Spider Fett


And I'm saying, the just because it looks like a duck and walks like a duck doesn't mean it's a duck.

I am sure there are things that are very evident even with the surgery. There is a difference between seeing it, and being with it.

If you are worth your weight in testosterone...you'd know.

Daisy
12-29-2004, 08:53 AM
Well I would think that it would certainly have an impact and she'd HAVE to tell you. What if you wanted to try to have kids? I know there's adoption but she'd have a tough time explaining why she couldn't get pregnant... and then visits to fertility clinics would bring the whole situation out then and that would NOT be pretty. :(

Actually, if she wanted to continue the lie, she'd simply have to say that she had to have a hysterectomy when she was younger. It would explain the inability to have children, the lack of periods, and the need for extra lube during sex.

As for those saying things like - adams apple and you'd know by the smell, etc. - no, you wouldn't, that's what all the hormone therapy is is for.

And as for the argument, she'd still be a guy in the head... also no. People who have sex change operations generally (I say generally because there are exceptions) do so because they feel - menatlly, emotionally, etc. - like the opposite sex. In otherwords, the reason she had the operation in the first place was because she was already a woman in her head, her body just didn't match.

DBM
12-29-2004, 08:53 AM
I'd dump her.

I know this sounds callous but I won't have a serious relationship with a girl who can't have kids. Anytime a relationship I'm in starts to get serious, I let the girl know that I want kids of my own, not adopted. If she can't provide that then it's through.

It may sound a little harsh but it's something I feel deeply committed about.

Childlike Wild
12-29-2004, 08:54 AM
But c'mon, any guy on here who's had an ongoing intimate relationship with a girl has had to have a lil blood on their tool at one time or another because of her menstrual cycle. You really can't fake that.
I suppose the poser could start a fight every (approx.) 28 days and refuse sex for the following week... or something.

Simple way to keep out of this position for guys: Don't date "chicks" with breast implants. :up:

Daisy
12-29-2004, 08:57 AM
I wouldn't necessarily finish it with them for the reason that they were once a fella, but having the chance to have children disappear if I stayed with them...

That would take some serious consideration to say the least.

What about a girl, who was born a girl, who for whatever reason couldn't bear children? It happens. You'd leave her because she couldn't bear you children?

thebat7
12-29-2004, 08:58 AM
If you are worth your weight in testosterone...you'd know.

Look...I'm not questioning your manhood or your sexuality here. But you simply wouldn't just "know".

You might figure it out eventually through one means or another. But if the new "girl" were to lift up her skirt...you couldn't tell by looking. And if you were to get with her in that way, you wouldn't "feel" a difference either.

Equint77
12-29-2004, 09:00 AM
On the chance that it happened to me and she admitted who she was... I'd leave immediately and then seek a lawyer so she/he'd pay for all my therapy bills.

slipalong
12-29-2004, 09:01 AM
What about a girl, who was born a girl, who for whatever reason couldn't bear children? It happens. You'd leave her because she couldn't bear you children?

No, I said I don't know what I'd do. I'd like to say that I'd be the good person I've always tried to be and if I loved them I'd stay with them. But I honestly don't know what I'd do.

I suppose the question would be whether I'm willing to trade the chance of having children of my own with someone against the chance of spending the rest of my life with someone I might love. No matter how they started out in life.

As decisions go, that's a biggie. I'm just being honest with you guys.

Daisy
12-29-2004, 09:01 AM
I'd dump her.

I know this sounds callous but I won't have a serious relationship with a girl who can't have kids. Anytime a relationship I'm in starts to get serious, I let the girl know that I want kids of my own, not adopted. If she can't provide that then it's through.

It may sound a little harsh but it's something I feel deeply committed about.


So do you go through all the fertility testing right then? A lot of times one doesn't find out until you start trying.

So you don't find out until after you're married. What happens then? Do you leave your wife because she can't bear your children? And what if it's you, not her? Does she have a free pass to toss you aside then?

Erzengel
12-29-2004, 09:01 AM
Actually, if she wanted to continue the lie, she'd simply have to say that she had to have a hysterectomy when she was younger. It would explain the inability to have children, the lack of periods, and the need for extra lube during sex. You could also say they suffer from vaginal dryness to explain the lube issue.


As for those saying things like - adams apple and you'd know by the smell, etc. - no, you wouldn't, that's what all the hormone therapy is is for.

I'm not saying that they can't fool anyone. But, even if they taken hormone therapy, have no scarring whatsoever, in the end they would have to lie about everything they can't control, no pics from their youth or periods or need for extra lube. Those lies wouldn't last forever and however good they maybe eventually something would come out.

Knightsaber Priss
12-29-2004, 09:04 AM
I think it's about time I made my first obscure, off the wall, random, thread for all you hypsters to discuss.

Guys, what if your girlfriend of 3 years; who you planned on proposing to in the near future...was once a man. I mean he had a sex change, complete with hormones and numerous surgeries. Would you want "her" to tell you or keep you in the dark? And if you'd want "her" to tell you, would you stay in the relationship?

This is one of those things that you need to know but not sure if you want to know. I'm curious as to some of your responses.

Wow. Where did you come up with this idea?

Daisy
12-29-2004, 09:06 AM
No, I said I don't know what I'd do. I'd like to say that I'd be the good person I've always tried to be and if I loved them I'd stay with them. But I honestly don't know what I'd do.

I suppose the question would be whether I'm willing to trade the chance of having children of my own with someone against the chance of spending the rest of my life with someone I might love. No matter how they started out in life.

As decisions go, that's a biggie. I'm just being honest with you guys.

I wasn't trying to be nasty. I was just trying to point out that the children thing isn't unique to this situation.

DBM
12-29-2004, 09:06 AM
What about a girl, who was born a girl, who for whatever reason couldn't bear children? It happens. You'd leave her because she couldn't bear you children?


I've done it before.

I remember when I made the decision for the first time. I was really in love with a girl several years ago. When she told me that she couldn't have children, I gave it considerable thought, and decided that I wanted children that were my own by blood. And as much as it hurt me, and her, I ended the relationship.

Since that first time it's only happened one other time. It was with a girl that didn't want children. She could have children but didn't want them. Once I had determined that she was serious I ended it.

I feel that breeding is a vital part of life. I feel a need to pass along my genes to another generation. And my personal morals say that I must raise that child or children. To me it is a vital part of my life and though I haven't had a child yet, I feel that I must at some point in my life.

DBM
12-29-2004, 09:11 AM
So do you go through all the fertility testing right then? A lot of times one doesn't find out until you start trying.

So you don't find out until after you're married. What happens then? Do you leave your wife because she can't bear your children? And what if it's you, not her? Does she have a free pass to toss you aside then?


Would I leave my wife? Probably. But prior to being married we would have addressed this issue. It's something I'd bring up before. She would be made aware of my stance and if she didn't agree then she is welcome to end the relationship before we are married.

Assuming she had the same beliefs as me, if I couldn't have children then I would accept her leaving me.

I know I can though. I've had myself examined. This isn't a decision I've came by lightly, I've put considerable thought and deliberation into it, even to the point of consulting a physician.

Daisy
12-29-2004, 09:12 AM
You could also say they suffer from vaginal dryness to explain the lube issue.


I'm not saying that they can't fool anyone. But, even if they taken hormone therapy, have no scarring whatsoever, in the end they would have to lie about everything they can't control, no pics from their youth or periods or need for extra lube. Those lies wouldn't last forever and however good they maybe eventually something would come out.

Vaginal dryness happens after a hysterectomy. Basically, you end up going through premature menopause because of it.


Yes, they'd have to lie, and that would be a lousy foundation for a relationship IMO, and they likely would be found out eventually. And the thing is, if they (the person who had the sex change) feel they have to lie to keep the person they're with, they probably shouldn't be with that person in the first place because it means they know in their heart, that person doesn't (or wouldn't) really love and accept them for who they are.

Anguissette1979
12-29-2004, 09:17 AM
Good call Daisy. The person you're with should love you for who you are physically, emotionally, and mentally... if they don't then you may be with the wrong person.

I found this out the hard way. Also, you have to love yourself before you can do something like that as well. That's what drives people to make this expensive, arduous and painful transformation.

Childlike Wild
12-29-2004, 09:20 AM
That and being mentally ill.

Equint77
12-29-2004, 09:22 AM
Yes, they'd have to lie, and that would be a lousy foundation for a relationship IMO, and they likely would be found out eventually. And the thing is, if they (the person who had the sex change) feel they have to lie to keep the person they're with, they probably shouldn't be with that person in the first place because it means they know in their heart, that person doesn't (or wouldn't) really love and accept them for who they are.


Well on the basis of the relationship starting off on a lie... that's enough to sever it. I think this extends past this circumstance...and although this is an extreme situation.. it's no different than someone getting involved with someone already married and not aware of it. A lie is a lie and no relationship should have a foundation based on secrets.

Daisy
12-29-2004, 09:23 AM
Would I leave my wife? Probably. But prior to being married we would have addressed this issue. It's something I'd bring up before. She would be made aware of my stance and if she didn't agree then she is welcome to end the relationship before we are married.

Assuming she had the same beliefs as me, if I couldn't have children then I would accept her leaving me.

I know I can though. I've had myself examined. This isn't a decision I've came by lightly, I've put considerable thought and deliberation into it, even to the point of consulting a physician.


Interesting.

I can understand fully about breaking with someone who didn't want to have children. Then your values would be at odds.

Please tell me if I'm prying to much, but I find your views very interesting, so I'm curious about a couple more things.

I understand your desire to pass on your genes. Is it important for you to do it "naturally", or would you be willing to participate in non-traditional methods?

By that, I mean. What if your wife had eggs, but couldn't seem to carry a child to term? Would you be willing to use a surrogate?

Or what if your wife's eggs turned out to be bad afterall, would you be willing to use donated eggs implanted in your wife? Or is it important that it is not only YOUR genes, but hers as well?

Following that, what if a woman you loved wanted children, but was unable to have them, but wanted - like you - to have your children. Would you be willing to use both donated eggs and a surrogate? They would still be your children, just not hers... and you would still raise the children together.

Like I said, I'm just curious... if it's too much, just tell me to butt out.

Daisy
12-29-2004, 09:27 AM
Well on the basis of the relationship starting off on a lie... that's enough to sever it. I think this extends past this circumstance...and although this is an extreme situation.. it's no different than someone getting involved with someone already married and not aware of it. A lie is a lie and no relationship should have a foundation based on secrets.

Yes, that would be the biggest problem. Lying for so long. I can understand not starting off with it on the first date (Talk about your icebreakers: "Hi, I'm Mandy. I used to be Randy, but I changed." :eek::D), but when you start to get intimate with someone, it should come out.

Equint77
12-29-2004, 09:30 AM
Yes, that would be the biggest problem. Lying for so long. I can understand not starting off with it on the first date (Talk about your icebreakers: "Hi, I'm Mandy. I used to be Randy, but I changed." :eek::D), but when you start to get intimate with someone, it should come out.

now the question is if someone were to tell them.... when would be the right time? the second date? third?

when they meet the parents?

Mom and dad... here's mandy.

Mandy: hi mom and dad... I'm banging your son and my name used to be Randy. What's for dinner? :o

Kipobe
12-29-2004, 09:31 AM
Interesting question... but imo, the issue is deeper than what she's lying about... more to the point, it's that she's lying about a major issue...

If she can keep that from me, what else would she keep? But to answer the specific question... no... I don't want someone who has been a guy, and I'd always expect honesty from someone I'm in a committed relationship with! Bottomline!

Erzengel
12-29-2004, 09:31 AM
Mandy: hi mom and dad... I'm banging your son and my name used to be Randy. What's for dinner? :o
Hot dogs.

slipalong
12-29-2004, 09:31 AM
I wasn't trying to be nasty. I was just trying to point out that the children thing isn't unique to this situation.

I never thought you were Daisy sweetheart!!

Just for the record, I was seeing someone who was older than me and had undergone a hysterectomy when they were younger (she already had son before the op). I loved her and it wasn't important to me but seemed to be to her, I wanted to stay with her regardless. I was 24 then (I'm 25 now). I couldn't guaruntee that kids wouldn't be an issue for me in the future.

What about if the siituation was reversed? How many times do we hear about women who become desperate to have a child? What about when their partner is infertile or has a low sperm count?

At least they have a chance with various fertility treatments, you wouldn't even have that option if you were with someone who had changed their gender.

Daisy
12-29-2004, 09:42 AM
I never thought you were Daisy sweetheart!!

Just for the record, I was seeing someone who was older than me and had undergone a hysterectomy when they were younger (she already had son before the op). I loved her and it wasn't important to me but seemed to be to her, I wanted to stay with her regardless. I was 24 then (I'm 25 now). I couldn't guaruntee that kids wouldn't be an issue for me in the future.

What about if the siituation was reversed? How many times do we hear about women who become desperate to have a child? What about when their partner is infertile or has a low sperm count?

At least they have a chance with various fertility treatments, you wouldn't even have that option if you were with someone who had changed their gender.


She was likely wary about that "no guarantees kids wouldn't be an issue in the future" part. In her position, I'd walk away at that. I couldn't let myself get deeper into a relationship knowing that at any time I could be simply crushed.



Well, like with someone who's had a hysterectomy, you could use your sperm, donor eggs and a surrogate. It'd be spendy, but it's possible.

kane9321
12-29-2004, 09:42 AM
now the question is if someone were to tell them.... when would be the right time? the second date? third?

when they meet the parents?

Mom and dad... here's mandy.

Mandy: hi mom and dad... I'm banging your son and my name used to be Randy. What's for dinner? :o


lmao :ghost:

Zarathi
12-29-2004, 09:53 AM
I'd not like that they had lied,
And with my views on gays and transgenders,
I dont think it would have been a problem to begin with,
Its a possiblity I would stay,
If I were to leave,
It'd be due to their dishonesty

Childlike Wild
12-29-2004, 09:53 AM
I don't get why more of you don't have an issue with the mental health side of this. :confused:

Especially you guys. Look at your *****. Now picture chopping them off. A German guy on drugs does it, and you post ":eek:". Someone does it with a "proper" surgery and somehow many of you say, "hmmmmm."

I don't think it's possible yet, but if I was dating a "guy" who told me he was once a girl, I'd dump her. Not because she lied, but because I have enough mental health issues of my own. I don't need to worry about somebody else's.

thebat7
12-29-2004, 09:58 AM
weird

DBM
12-29-2004, 10:03 AM
Please tell me if I'm prying to much, but I find your views very interesting, so I'm curious about a couple more things.
You are prying but I don’t mind. I have a unique outlook on it. I find a lot of people are interested when we start discussing it.
I understand your desire to pass on your genes. Is it important for you to do it "naturally", or would you be willing to participate in non-traditional methods?
I would prefer to do it naturally mainly because of the simplicity of it but I am more than willing to entertain other options. Also I should point out that it’s not so much a “desire” to pass along my genes as it is a driving force in my life. My personal belief is that breeding is a vital part of a person’s life. If I do nothing else of substance in my life, the one thing I’m driven to accomplish is fathering a child. And as I’ve mentioned before, my personal morals require that I actual be there and raise the child.
By that, I mean. What if your wife had eggs, but couldn't seem to carry a child to term? Would you be willing to use a surrogate?
In this situation, yes.
Or what if your wife's eggs turned out to be bad afterall, would you be willing to use donated eggs implanted in your wife? Or is it important that it is not only YOUR genes, but hers as well?
In this situation, no.

Now let me explain. The woman I choose to be my wife will be chosen for many reasons. One of which will be that I want her genes, as well as mine, to be passed along to my children. If I just wanted my genes passed along, then I could donate to a sperm bank and hope or just knock up some girl and get custody of the child. I would want the woman to possess qualities and traits that I want my children to have in addition to what I shall pass along.

Therefore a surrogate, using my sperm and my wife’s eggs would be fine. But eggs that were not my wife’s, therefore would not be acceptable. The only way it might be acceptable (and this is becoming more detached and emotionless than I really am about the subject) is if the eggs were donated by a close relative of my wife, her sister for example, because this would provide much of the genetic traits I am looking for and my wife and I would provide the environmental upbringing I am looking for. Though honestly I doubt that any eggs other than my wife’s would be acceptable to me.
Following that, what if a woman you loved wanted children, but was unable to have them, but wanted - like you - to have your children. Would you be willing to use both donated eggs and a surrogate? They would still be your children, just not hers... and you would still raise the children together.
I refer back to my previous statement. The eggs would have to be my wifes.

I would point out that you say “what if a woman you loved” thereby assuming that love would be the defining characteristic of the relationship which I don’t necessarily agree with. While love is most definitely important, it is not necessarily the reason I would stay with a woman, there are many other factors to include. One of which, and possibly the most important of all to me, is bearing children.
Like I said, I'm just curious... if it's too much, just tell me to butt out.
Feel free to ask more.

I would like to say though, that I’m not really an emotionless jerk, hell-bent on breeding as this makes me sound. Typing on a message board doesn’t really convey my convictions and passion about this subject as a real life discussion would.

Equint77
12-29-2004, 10:04 AM
I'd not like that they had lied,
And with my views on gays and transgenders,
I dont think it would have been a problem to begin with,
Its a possiblity I would stay,
If I were to leave,
It'd be due to their dishonesty


But that's the main issue I guess. Not being upfront about something like that with someone is just as bad as lying. Now in this situation. Guy or Girl.. you want to know who you're with and who they've been... whether it be a sex change... a murderer or some poor bastard running around in Peter Pan tights...

Danalys
12-29-2004, 10:12 AM
i disagree with sex change ops for the same reasons i disagree with cosmetic surgery. i really don't think either of them should happen.

Wilhelm-Scream
12-29-2004, 10:18 AM
A man's a man no matter how many appendages you lop off of him or how drastically you alter his original body chemistry.

and if you couldn't tell in the first place,whoah

Daisy
12-29-2004, 11:05 AM
I would like to say though, that I’m not really an emotionless jerk, hell-bent on breeding as this makes me sound. Typing on a message board doesn’t really convey my convictions and passion about this subject as a real life discussion would.

I didn't think you were, which is why I continued asking questions.

The Avatar
12-29-2004, 11:07 AM
i'm going to need to see some pics of the 'girlfriend' in question before i make my decision.

Superman20
12-29-2004, 11:12 AM
i would want to know ASAP because, even if everything is like a woman (although he wouldn't be able to give birth) the skin on him is still a man's skin, just treated, the tongue is a guy's tongue, ass, hair, lips, teeth, spit, everything, just changed, if you lift weighs until you are square, you are not a closet, so if you grow tits and exchange your penis for a c**t that doesn't make you a woman, it makes you a changed/altered male, at least within my definition of woman

Wilhelm-Scream
12-29-2004, 11:14 AM
"if you lift weighs until you are square, you are not a closet,",lol,weird

truer words have never been spoken.

Colossal Spoons
12-29-2004, 01:55 PM
Wow. Where did you come up with this idea?
I was bored and I remembered an episode of Nip Tuck. The lady who plays Jean Grey in the X-Men movies played a woman who was once a man and had 12 surgeries to change her sex. As you all know, that lady is very pretty but she was having sex with a guy and he was able to tell she was a man within 10 seconds of penetration. For those of you who have never seen her(I'm ashamed of you, what are you doing on this website anyway), here's a pic:
http://cyberspace-market.com/chrisclaremontchecklist/TV-Guide-2468-Jean-Grey.jpg

BTW, these responses are very entertaining and interesting. I managed to get a mature conversation going on the hype. Go me!

Erzengel
12-29-2004, 02:18 PM
Wow at least you could have gotten a nicer pic of her. LOL

http://www.g21.net/jule2grax/famke2.jpg

Kaleb
12-29-2004, 02:20 PM
after watching nip/tuk im never looking at her the same way again :mad:

Erzengel
12-29-2004, 02:23 PM
Dude I never really watched the show too much but didn't the friend's son have a relationship with her?

thebat7
12-29-2004, 02:46 PM
huh?

dusk20
12-29-2004, 04:21 PM
I dont really think it matters.

If you fall in love with her and you find out it was a he, it would take time to figure it into place. But once you do, you just understand that you love her. Isn't that right?

dusk20
12-29-2004, 04:22 PM
I saw a movie once, i think it was the Crying Game. And it was the same thing.

Kaleb
12-29-2004, 04:23 PM
Dude I never really watched the show too much but didn't the friend's son have a relationship with her?yeah that the son (who reminds me alot of micheal jackson) did have a relationship with her/him

Colossal Spoons
09-02-2006, 01:01 AM
*bump*

almost 2 years later, so what do y'all think now? :D

The Riddler
09-02-2006, 01:04 AM
i'm not a homophobe, but i wouldn't want to be banging a former man.

Colossal Spoons
09-02-2006, 01:07 AM
^So, you'd wanna know and then you'd end the relationship?

Darkdd
09-02-2006, 01:10 AM
No because we could not have kids together.

The Riddler
09-02-2006, 01:12 AM
^So, you'd wanna know and then you'd end the relationship?
i would end the relationship, and then go promptly try to have a one nighter with a real woman.

i think it would help me deal with the fact i had fu**ed a man.

Hyper Venom
09-02-2006, 01:34 AM
I can't believe anyone here would actually stay with the he/she after finding something like this out. Not only would I break up with it, but after having found out that it's a man and it's okay to hit it, I'm beat the crap out of it.

Also, keep this in mind: For those of you who say it's okay because now they have female organs, and thus you've been with a female, remember that they didn't get their mouth changed. So everytime you kiss it, you are, in fact, kissing a man. No denying that. Still think it's okay?

Alpha and Omega
09-02-2006, 02:21 PM
I think it's about time I made my first obscure, off the wall, random, thread for all you hypsters to discuss.

Guys, what if your girlfriend of 3 years; who you planned on proposing to in the near future...was once a man. I mean he had a sex change, complete with hormones and numerous surgeries. Would you want "her" to tell you or keep you in the dark? And if you'd want "her" to tell you, would you stay in the relationship?

This is one of those things that you need to know but not sure if you want to know. I'm curious as to some of your responses.

:dry:

Just imagine yourself as that poor shmuck on the VH1 special.:down :(

Er, I'm kind of doubting that this would ever happen to me; I have this funny habit of checking the adam's apple, hand size, foot size, and shoulder area. Those are things that cannot be changed.

but. . . . . I'll play along. . .

Say it did happen:

1) homicidal rage
2) easy to figure out what this step would be . . . .
3) psychic-hypnosis to block the memories from my mind and exist as if it never happened.
4) happily ever after. . .

Colossal, are you sure you don't have a confession to make? I'm sure that no man here will think any less of you, if you and a few of your buddies were drinking, one thing led to another, and a few of you were shaking your heads afterwards. . . . . :p

Nothing like the revival of a 2 yr old piece of material.

Colossus24
09-02-2006, 03:28 PM
My only issue would be that it took her 3 years to tell me about this. If you truly loved her, the whole her having been a man part shouldn't be an insurmountable issue in the relationship.