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Hunter Rider
01-25-2005, 08:18 AM
http://comingsoon.net/nextraimages/pittjessejames.jpg

Brad Pitt (http://www.comingsoon.net/news/topnews.php?id=8071#) is going to play gunslinger Jesse James in a period Western that will be directed by Chopper helmer Andrew Dominik and produced by Pitt's Plan B Films. The project is based on the Robert Hansen novel "The Assassination of Jesse James by the Coward Robert Ford."

In the book, Hansen re-creates the real West with his imaginative telling of the life of the most famous outlaw of them all, Jesse James, and of his death at the hands of the upstart Robert Ford.

James, a charismatic, superstitious, and moody man, holds sway over a ragged gang who fear his temper and quick shooting. Robert Ford, a young gang member torn between worshipping Jesse and taking his place, guns him down in cold blood and lives out his days tormented by the killing.

The book was optioned last year as a co-production between Scott Free partners Ridley and Tony Scott, and Plan B, the Warner Bros (http://www.comingsoon.net/news/topnews.php?id=8071#).-based company that was run by Pitt, Brad Grey and Jennifer Aniston.

The studio hasn't yet chosen an actor for the Ford role.

Sava
01-25-2005, 08:28 AM
looks good, wasn't this already a movie, with John Wayne?

DACrowe
01-25-2005, 04:03 PM
No, but there was a good 1938 film about this called Jesse James and that though very romantcized and very inaccurate was a good piece of Hollywood filmmaking (like Tombstone, or Brad PItt's last big movie, the very entertaining Hollywood movie Troy).

They also made a dark gritty one with the likes of Dennis Hopper and Dennis Quaid in the early 80s. I've never seen it but I heard it was good and some say it was bad, it was called The Long Riders I believe.

And last (and certainly least) is the 2001 film called "American Outlaws." It was again a romanticized version of James based heavily on the 1938 film without any charm though, and they take out his death scene at the end and his attempted redemption and replace it with a cheesy stupid shootout on a train assault. Youu may remember this as the one where Collin Farrell played Jesse James (before Ferrell was famous). He was the best part of that movie, because the rest stunk and was a poor man's Young Guns (which was laready crappy).

I'd prefer a realistic biopic on the man who eluded the law (and Pinkerton of the Pinkerton Agency himself!) for 16 years after the Civil War. I think it could be entertaining and if they made it Hollywood Wyatt Earp (as in not so Hollywood as Tombstone or so history as Wyatt Earp but somewhere in between) we could have a great western on our hands.

But Pitt will have to be up to snuff when he plays James unlike when he played Achilles. And also I hope they do a lot more with Frank James and the Younger Brothers because they were much closer and important to Jesse James than Robert Ford who came in near the end...duh. Still could be interesting.

Wolfwood
01-25-2005, 04:19 PM
I just realized that Brad Pitt dies in a good deal of his movies, kind of an odd thing for an actor like him.

superhuman
01-25-2005, 04:24 PM
Whoopi!! I hope it's a big nasty flop.

DACrowe
01-25-2005, 04:26 PM
^ Why? Do you hate Pitt or westerns, because both have good movies in them.

Anyways here is the last western about Jesse James (albiet a crappy one) the 2001 Collin Ferrell flick about Jesse James, American Outlaws.

http://www.affichescinema.com/insc_a/american_outlaws.jpg

http://ffmedia.ign.com/filmforce/image/ao-group.jpg

superhuman
01-25-2005, 04:32 PM
Just burnt out on Pitt and Cruise. I'm tired of their faces, AND they are hugely over-rated.
Sorry if I'm coming off as a dick. I just think we need to see new faces in these roles.
These guys keep making big movies with big marketing and their movies keep flopping. Production companies force feed their faces on us relentlessly, it has become tiresome.

We need new actors, new faces. That's all.

Dark Donnie
01-25-2005, 06:25 PM
Just burnt out on Pitt and Cruise. I'm tired of their faces. AND they're are over-rated.
Sorry if I'm coming off as a dick.
Tom Cruise is such a great actor, and it's a crime that he wasn't nominated for Collateral. He is a box office draw! As for Pitt, he is cool as hell in all his roles. Im a fan of alot of his stuff.

Give CRUISE an Oscar!!!

superhuman
01-25-2005, 06:41 PM
Sorry, I just edited my last post, because I was interupted and was unable to finish it.

Let's see Collateral did not do well in the box office, it got good reviews, but it flopped in theaters, Last Samurai flopped, Minority Report flopped (not even Speilberg could save it)
Vanilla Sky flopped, Eyes Wide Shut flopped. Yes he has made "some" good films and he isn't a bad actor, but his looks are more famous than his roles. Same goes for Pitt, Troy flopped and he sucked bad in it, Spygame flopped, The Mexican (with Julia Roberts) flopped, Meet Joe Black flopped, theres more, but these actors while not so bad are still hugely over-rated. It's women that make these guys the huge stars they are, why? plain and simple "Their Looks" and in my book, looks don't add up to talent.

Hunter Rider
01-25-2005, 06:42 PM
Sorry, I just edited my last post, because I was interupted and was unable to finish it.

Let's see Collateral did not do well in the box office, it got good reviews, but it flopped in theaters, Last Samurai flopped, Minority Report flopped (not even Speilberg could save it)
Vanilla Sky flopped, Eyes Wide Shut flopped. Yes he has made "some" good films and he isn't a bad actor, but his looks are more famous than his roles. Same goes for Pitt, Troy flopped and he sucked bad in it, Spygame flopped, The Mexican (with Julia Roberts) flopped, Meet Joe Black flopped, theres more, but these actors while not so bad are still hugely over-rated. It's women that make these guys the huge stars they are, why? plain and simple "Their Looks" and in my book, looks don't add up to talent.

wrong non of those movies flopped i'll get the figures hold on

Dark Donnie
01-25-2005, 06:49 PM
The Last Samurai and Minority Report were great, and am pretty sure they didn't flop.
Collateral was awesome as well and wasn't a blockbuster like the others, it had to do respectable. And Vanilla Sky is one of my favorite films, and while many don' like it I find it great. These films made there money back at least and probably alot more.

Hunter Rider
01-25-2005, 06:53 PM
http://www.boxofficemojo.com/alltime/world/?pagenum=1&p=.htm

Last Samurai :$456,800M
Minority Report:$356,400M
Collateral:$217,700M
Vanilla sky:$203,400M

you dont like cruise thats fine but get yor facts straight

Dark Donnie
01-25-2005, 06:54 PM
http://www.boxofficemojo.com/alltime/world/?pagenum=1&p=.htm

Last Samurai :$456,800M
Minority Report:$356,400M
Collateral:$217,700M
Vanilla sky:$203,400M

you dont like cruise thats fine but get yor facts straight
Nice research Hunter! :up: I didn't know Vanilla Sky made that much, was the budget big?

Hunter Rider
01-25-2005, 06:55 PM
Nice research Hunter! :up: I didn't know Vanilla Sky made that much, was the budget big?

vanilla sky:budget $68M
collateral:budget $65M

http://www.boxofficemojo.com/movies/?id=collateral.htm

http://www.boxofficemojo.com/movies/?id=vanillasky.htm

Achilles
01-25-2005, 07:00 PM
This movie sounds like it could be a bit like "Amadeus"....

Dark Donnie
01-25-2005, 07:02 PM
vanilla sky:budget $68M
collateral:budget $65M

http://www.boxofficemojo.com/movies/?id=collateral.htm

http://www.boxofficemojo.com/movies/?id=vanillasky.htm
I hate flops! :rolleyes:

Hunter Rider
01-25-2005, 07:04 PM
I hate flops! :rolleyes:

me too:D ;)

superhuman
01-25-2005, 07:10 PM
Bull. It sounds like bull to me. Besides, I don't care whether they are hits or flops, the fact is, these "actors" are force fed to us constantly. They are not that "talented" yet Hollywood markets them like they are the greatest, when in fact they want that "female" draw. It the looks fellas...the looks. I hope Jesse James flops. That way, maybe finally we'll be rid of these faces. Leonardo DiCaprio is another actor that IS talented, but was terribly miscast as Howard Hughes. He looked like a precocious 13 year old. Not convincing in the least bit.

Dark Donnie
01-25-2005, 07:16 PM
How is Tom Cruise force fed, he does one movie a year, whereas other actors do like five.

superhuman
01-25-2005, 07:42 PM
Look I don't hate Cruise or Pitt, it's not really their fault that Producer's put their faces on anything and everything. They are overly marketed because of their star power and their looks. It gets annoying constantly seeing these faces over and over again. Crap man, actors like DeNiro, Pacino and many more don't get their faces plastered all over us, why? Because they are not as good looking. That's why. Hollywood is terribly unbalanced and terribly superficial.

DACrowe
01-25-2005, 07:55 PM
Tom Cruise is overrated, but still a good actor.

Brad Pitt is a good actor who is underrated (people act like he is Orlando Bloom or something but this man can act). He did A River Runs Through It, Spy Game, Seven, Fight Club, 12 Monkeys, The Mexican, and while not hard was greatly entertaining in Ocean's 11 (Ocean's 12, was bad so it is unimporant).

And Troy was a good movie (but he was indeed weak in it unforunately which that, a rushed ending, and an average score keep it from greatness) and it made $497 million worldwide. That is not a flop.

See Collateral, Magnolia, A Few Good Men, Mission: Impossible, Eyes Wide Shut (a bad movie, but he was good in it), Jerry McGuire, Minority Report, and the Last Samurai (ignore the crappy ending) to name a few of his performances to prove he is a good actor.

Hunter Rider
01-25-2005, 07:55 PM
Look I don't hate Cruise or Pitt, it's not really their fault that Producer's put their faces on anything and everything. They are overly marketed because of their star power and their looks. It gets annoying constantly seeing these faces over and over again. Crap man, actors like DeNiro, Pacino and many more don't get their faces plastered all over us, why? Because they are not as good looking. That's why. Hollywood is terribly unbalanced and terribly superficial.

whatever helps you sleep:rolleyes:

DACrowe
01-25-2005, 07:56 PM
And no they are not DeNiros or Pacinos (who has been making many more bad movies in the last decade).

Oh and Leo DiCaprio rocked as Howard Hughes by the way.

superhuman
01-25-2005, 08:05 PM
whatever helps you sleep:rolleyes:


LOL! I'm tryin'!! :)

Dark Donnie
01-25-2005, 08:07 PM
Tom Cruise is overrated, but still a good actor.

Brad Pitt is a good actor who is underrated (people act like he is Orlando Bloom or something but this man can act). He did A River Runs Through It, Spy Game, Seven, Fight Club, 12 Monkeys, The Mexican, and while not hard was greatly entertaining in Ocean's 11 (Ocean's 12, was bad so it is unimporant).

And Troy was a good movie (but he was indeed weak in it unforunately which that, a rushed ending, and an average score keep it from greatness) and it made $497 million worldwide. That is not a flop.

See Collateral, Magnolia, A Few Good Men, Mission: Impossible, Eyes Wide Shut (a bad movie, but he was good in it), Jerry McGuire, Minority Report, and the Last Samurai (ignore the crappy ending) to name a few of his performances to prove he is a good actor.
You didn't like him in Vanilla Sky?

Dark Donnie
01-25-2005, 08:08 PM
I would like to add Born of the Fourth July, and Rain Man.

Jspider13
01-25-2005, 08:10 PM
^ Why? Do you hate Pitt or westerns, because both have good movies in them.

Anyways here is the last western about Jesse James (albiet a crappy one) the 2001 Collin Ferrell flick about Jesse James, American Outlaws.

http://www.affichescinema.com/insc_a/american_outlaws.jpg

http://ffmedia.ign.com/filmforce/image/ao-group.jpg

Those look like halloween costumes. I'm so sure they prettied up their hair back then like that.

Darth Rockwell
01-25-2005, 08:56 PM
I can't say if I think this is a good idea right now or not. I mean I love the story Of Jesse James and some how I don't know I'm mixed about this news.

[Faustinas]
01-25-2005, 08:59 PM
I'm ambivalent. Pitt is almost always hit or miss and I'm not sure I trust one of the most beloved tragic heroes in history to him. Brad Pitt a lengendary outlaw? I'll reserve judgement.

JcDc
01-26-2005, 04:51 AM
This will be good :up:

That-Guy
01-26-2005, 02:45 PM
I'm excited to see this. I love westerns, and if anyone doubts Pitt's ability to play Jesse James, I strongly urge you to go rent Legends of the Fall. It's definitely one of his best roles... he gives a hell of a performance in it, and though it's a film studded with top talents like Anthony Hopkins, Aidan Quinn, Henry Thomas, and Julia Ormond, Pitt owns the movie. (To be fair to the other actors, though, he is the main character).

DACrowe
01-26-2005, 05:53 PM
Oh I forgot Rain Man and the first movie to show he had talent was The Born on The Fourth of July.

And yes I hope this is a good western which we haven't had in a while. The good of the recent times have been Unforgiven, Dances With Wolves, Wyatt Earp, Tombstone, and Open Range. But every other western has been either meidocre: Young Guns and The Missing or downright bad: Young Guns II, Wild Bill, The Texas Rangers, American Outlaws, etc.

We need another good one and I hope he does James justice which means I hope he is not portrayed as a hero, maybe not all bad (like how in Wyatt Earp Kasdan did paint Earp as good, but he was a mean cuss who did some very bad things too) but certainly no hero either. So yeah.

hey yo its sean
01-26-2005, 05:59 PM
Sorry, I just edited my last post, because I was interupted and was unable to finish it.

Let's see Collateral did not do well in the box office, it got good reviews, but it flopped in theaters, Last Samurai flopped, Minority Report flopped (not even Speilberg could save it)
Vanilla Sky flopped, Eyes Wide Shut flopped. Yes he has made "some" good films and he isn't a bad actor, but his looks are more famous than his roles. Same goes for Pitt, Troy flopped and he sucked bad in it, Spygame flopped, The Mexican (with Julia Roberts) flopped, Meet Joe Black flopped, theres more, but these actors while not so bad are still hugely over-rated. It's women that make these guys the huge stars they are, why? plain and simple "Their Looks" and in my book, looks don't add up to talent.

I know it's been said before, but seriously, those weren't flops. That list is absurd.

That-Guy
02-02-2005, 01:53 PM
Oh I forgot Rain Man and the first movie to show he had talent was The Born on The Fourth of July.

And yes I hope this is a good western which we haven't had in a while. The good of the recent times have been Unforgiven, Dances With Wolves, Wyatt Earp, Tombstone, and Open Range. But every other western has been either meidocre: Young Guns and The Missing or downright bad: Young Guns II, Wild Bill, The Texas Rangers, American Outlaws, etc.

We need another good one and I hope he does James justice which means I hope he is not portrayed as a hero, maybe not all bad (like how in Wyatt Earp Kasdan did paint Earp as good, but he was a mean cuss who did some very bad things too) but certainly no hero either. So yeah.

What was wrong with Young Guns I and II? Those are two of my all-time favorites. I don't know how close they stuck to the actual events (though a history teacher I had in high school advised me that the first one did pretty well... then again, that teacher turned out to be a pederast and went to jail, so what the hell does he know), but nevertheless, I thought they were well acted and well directed. They're also about the only movies other than The Breakfast Club that I can recall Emelio Estevez showing any range in.

DACrowe
02-02-2005, 06:20 PM
The second was too "cheesy" and jsut felt like a bad movie.

The second actually was based on more historical events than the first (and in turn save for the stupid "Billy the Kid is alive" ending did most of the story based on real events only some character switching and weather switching and using which teory you like the best, etc).

Here is what was off on the first (not that, that is why I dislike the first or second just what they got wrong):

-The Englishman was like 24, and not in his 50s. He did not have time to train Billy the Kid to be a sophisticate when he had other things to worry about...like Murphy and Dolan's men coming to kill them at any time.

-Murphy was not the main enmey of the Lincoln County Wars, but rather he was sick and dying in bed. It was rather his second in command a man by the name of Dolan.

-Billy never admired Pat Garrett at the time, because there was nothing to admire. At this point in time he was either a stage hand, a farm hand, or a bartender.

-Billy and others ambushed Sheriff Brady behind coverage and Billy was shot in the thigh when retrieving his gun here, there was no skpping or that sort of thing.

-Billy did not have a shoot-out with Bucksot Roberts until after the Sheriff Brady incident. He hid out in an Adobe and not an outhouse. Also, after Dick died Billy did not take command until much later.

-There was no Chinese Girl that Murphy had and he certainly did not have her run off with Doc to New York.

-Chavez was likely all Mexican and not Indian.

-At the burning of McSween's house it lasted as a 5 day siege and not a 2 day siege. Billy and FIFTEEN other regulators and Mr. McSween escaped through two different backs in the darkness of night and headed for the river. McSween and four regulators were killed and one or two of the attackers were, and Murphy was dead by this point I believe so he had no part in it either. Also, Charlie and Tom were not there and did not die there.

Young Guns II

-It is likely Pat Garrett and Billy the Kid were not that close. As a matter of fact Garrett may have never even rustled with the Kid, but rather did it maybe once which explains how he knew the ends and outs of the Kids's hideaways.

-Doc and Chavez did not need rescuing from a mob. It is likely by now that Chavez was living in California and Doc in Texas where they both lived happily ever after so to speak unlike the Kid.

-After Chisum "betrayed" the Kid he just stole cattle from Chisum, he did not shoot Chisum's men for every $100 dollars.

-When the Kid and his men killed that deputy dressed as one of them it was rather he jumped through a window fearing that the mob had killed the hostage when he heard a gunshot and then was gunned down by his own men, the Kid did not throw him out there on purpose.

-The Kid was pursued by Pat Garrett from Fort Sumner in the dead of winter and in the snow! When Tom O'Fillard was shot it was a case of mistaken idenitity as Billy for he was riding in front, but he was not a "youngin'" but rather a year older (at least) than the Kid and likely the Kid's sidekick and best friend and not Doc. As he slowly died in a barn Garrett or rather his men at least played cards near by.

-When Garrett surrounded the Kid in a stone house it was Charlie (from the first movie) who stepped out in the snow and was shot and then ran out guns blazing and got gunned down in the snow and then the rest surrendered. They were taken to Santa Fe and then Lincoln County (Dave Raudabaugh escaped) and the Kid was put on trial.

-They use the theory that someone left a gun in the outhouse for the Kid to escape with, but according to the kid he just squeezed out of hte handcuffs and smacked Bell across the face or head (explaining the gashes found on the body) and then offered Bell a chancce to live but a panicked Bell was shot dead in the back with his own gun. But instead they had him try and draw on Billy when in fact Billy (by legend was remorseful about it) shot Bellin the back.

-Raudabugh may have killed the wrong two men in Mexico and was decapitated as a warning with his head used as a sign as legend has it, or he may have escaped and lived to be an old man...not sure which is true.

-The Kid took 3 and 1/2 months between escaping and running to reach Fort Sumner, so it was not like he beat his posse there (or what was left of it) from a location of capture only 12 miles away and it is likely to expect that Chavez was not fatally wounded here, because for the simple fact was Chavez was living in California at the time.

-When Garrett killed the Kid he shot him in the dark while Pete was there and the Kid never knew who shot him either. There is a descrepency when most likely he was alone when he was shot and unarmed but there was a gun found in the hand of the dead body and then what happened next was a funeral. He did die there in Fort Sumner that night.

The end.

Hunter Rider
08-08-2005, 08:41 AM
http://www.empireonline.co.uk/site/news/newsstory.asp?news_id=17013

Casey Affleck Shoots Brad Pitt In The Back!
http://www.empireonline.co.uk/site/images/point.gif
Relax, folks – only in the Jesse James biopic
08 August 2005
http://www.empireonline.co.uk/site/images/image_index/1790.jpgBoy, the last couple of Christmasses in the Affleck household must have been tough. Sure, there would have been plenty of cheer as presents were unwrapped, crackers pulled and turkey devoured, but somewhere along the line, the family’s acting siblings, Ben and Casey, would have gotten round to talking shop.

“So Ben, how’s it going?” “Not good – still being hounded by the paparazzi because of the J-Lo thing, and the press are on my back over my acting. Haven’t they seen Changing Lanes? I mean, give a guy a break. How about you, Case?” “Oh, the same old. Bunch of supporting roles. It’s tough getting the breakthrough – I just don’t have your leading man looks” “Bummer… more egg nog?”

But lately, things are finally turning round for the acting Afflecks, you’ll be pleased to hear. Ben did get married to a famous Jennifer – the lovely Ms Garner – and they’re expecting a child later this year, while he’s ramping up for his directorial debut, Gone, Baby Gone.

As for Casey… he’s just bagged his biggest acting gig yet, starring alongside Brad Pitt in Andrew Dominik’s provisionally-titled Jesse James, the latest movie version of the life and death of one of the Wild West’s most famous outlaws.

Pitt will play James in the Warner Bros. movie, based on the Robert Hanson novel, The Assassination Of Jesse James by the Coward Robert Ford. No prizes for guessing which character Affleck will play – yep, he’ll be the young gunslinger who joined the infamous James gang, intent on making his name. Which he did, by eventually shooting James in the back, in cold blood. The darned yeller-skinned bastid.

Affleck The Younger has been banging on the Hollywood door for a while, turning in offbeat performances in the likes of Good Will Hunting (with his bro, and good chum Matt Damon) and Gerry (with Damon again). It’ll be interesting to see how he handles a large role in a movie that originates outside his immediate family circle (although, of course, he has worked with Pitt before, on the Ocean’s movies).

Either way, though, the involvement of Dominik – who directed the wonderful Chopper – marks this Western as one to watch, especially round chez Affleck…

CorporalHicks
08-08-2005, 12:16 PM
when will hollywood admit that the western movie era is over?

U.S War Machine
08-08-2005, 05:29 PM
Colin Farrell was good enough as Jesse James.

Hunter Rider
08-24-2005, 01:59 PM
http://www.comingsoon.net/news/topnews.php?id=10936
Mary Louise Parker Joins Jesse James

Source: Calgary Sun (http://jam.canoe.ca/Movies/Artists/P/Parker_Mary_Louise/2005/08/24/1185469.html)
August 24, 2005



Mary Louise Parker will play Zee James, the outlaw's wife in The Assassination of Jesse James, reports the Calgary Sun. She joins Brad Pitt, who stars as famed gunslinger James, and Casey Affleck, who is playing the infamous Robert Ford.

Warner Bros (http://www.comingsoon.net/news/topnews.php?id=10936#).' adaptation of the Robert Hansen novel "The Assassination of Jesse James by the Coward Robert Ford" started filming in Calgary on Monday. The film (http://www.comingsoon.net/news/topnews.php?id=10936#) is directed by Andrew Dominik (Chopper). Brad Pitt's Plan B and Ridley and Tony Scott's (http://www.comingsoon.net/news/topnews.php?id=10936#) Scott Free produce.

Ford is a youth who joined the James gang and went from idolizing to resenting the man known as the fastest gun in the West. He figured on making his rep by gunning down James but shot his mentor in the back, stamping himself the most famous (http://www.comingsoon.net/news/topnews.php?id=10936#) coward around.

That-Guy
08-24-2005, 04:08 PM
Yes! I love Mary Louise Parker.

Hunter Rider
08-25-2005, 05:41 AM
http://filmforce.ign.com/articles/644/644783p1.html

Variety recently revealed that Jeremy Renner (http://www.imdb.com/name/nm0719637/) (S.W.A.T., Dahmer) also has been added to the cast as an unspecified member of the James gang.

Andrew Dominik is directing Jesse James. He also penned the screenplay adaptation of Ron Hansen's novel. Casey Affleck (http://filmforce.ign.com/articles/640/640276p1.html) co-stars as Robert Ford, James' assassin.

Roughneck
08-25-2005, 05:45 AM
Brad Pitt should not have been Cast as jesse James.

BTW there are filming this in My Hometown.

Roughneck
08-25-2005, 05:47 AM
.... while he’s ramping up for his directorial debut, Gone, Baby Gone.




Technically it wont be his Directorial Debut.

http://www.imdb.com/title/tt0166222/

Feature film Directorial Debut? Yes.

That-Guy
08-25-2005, 01:52 PM
Brad Pitt should not have been Cast as jesse James.



Going to give a reason why?

Hunter Rider
09-01-2005, 07:55 AM
http://comingsoon.net/news/topnews.php?id=11040

Shepard Joins Pitt's Jesse James

Source: The Hollywood Reporter (http://www.hollywoodreporter.com/)
September 1, 2005



Sam Shepard will star opposite Brad Pitt (http://comingsoon.net/news/topnews.php?id=11040#) in The Assassination of Jesse James by the Coward Robert Ford for Warner Bros (http://comingsoon.net/news/topnews.php?id=11040#). Pictures, says The Hollywood Reporter (http://comingsoon.net/news/topnews.php?id=11040#).

The movie (http://comingsoon.net/news/topnews.php?id=11040#) tells the story of how Robert Ford joined Jesse James' gang, only to become resentful of the legendary outlaw and hatch a plan to kill James, the fastest gun in the West.

Pitt is playing James, and Casey Affleck has been cast as Ford. Shepard will play James' brother, Frank.

Andrew Dominik is directing, and Ron Hansen adapted the script from his novel. Production began this week in Canada.

Pitt is producing via his Plan B Entertainment, while Ridley Scott and Tony Scott produce through Scott Free Productions.

dpm07
09-01-2005, 08:01 AM
Should be interesting.

Dark Donnie
09-01-2005, 09:15 AM
is that title going to stay?

Hunter Rider
09-01-2005, 12:47 PM
is that title going to stay?

I really doubt it,im expecting it to become just "Jess James"

That-Guy
09-01-2005, 01:47 PM
I like Shepard, but isn't he a little old to be playing Brad Pitt's brother? Were Jesse and Frank really far apart in age?

http://comingsoon.net/news/topnews.php?id=11040

Shepard Joins Pitt's Jesse James

Source: The Hollywood Reporter (http://www.hollywoodreporter.com/)
September 1, 2005



Sam Shepard will star opposite Brad Pitt (http://comingsoon.net/news/topnews.php?id=11040#) in The Assassination of Jesse James by the Coward Robert Ford for Warner Bros (http://comingsoon.net/news/topnews.php?id=11040#). Pictures, says The Hollywood Reporter (http://comingsoon.net/news/topnews.php?id=11040#).

The movie (http://comingsoon.net/news/topnews.php?id=11040#) tells the story of how Robert Ford joined Jesse James' gang, only to become resentful of the legendary outlaw and hatch a plan to kill James, the fastest gun in the West.

Pitt is playing James, and Casey Affleck has been cast as Ford. Shepard will play James' brother, Frank.

Andrew Dominik is directing, and Ron Hansen adapted the script from his novel. Production began this week in Canada.

Pitt is producing via his Plan B Entertainment, while Ridley Scott and Tony Scott produce through Scott Free Productions.

green
09-01-2005, 01:48 PM
I loved Chopper, with Dominick directing this , it should be quite good.

Hunter Rider
09-01-2005, 02:11 PM
I like Shepard, but isn't he a little old to be playing Brad Pitt's brother? Were Jesse and Frank really far apart in age?

this site should have the answer

http://outlawsandlawmen.homestead.com/JesseJames.html

phantomstranger
09-01-2005, 06:14 PM
I'm a devoted fan of the western genre and anytime Hollywood makes a new one I'll be there, even if it's with an actor I'm not a fan of, because if this films a hit, maybe the studios will start making more westerns again.

Roughneck
09-08-2005, 01:41 AM
CAST

Brad Pitt: Jesse James
Casey Affleck: Robert Ford
Sam Rockwell: Charley
Paul Schneider: Dick Liddil
Jeremy Renner: Wood Hite
Sam Shepard: Frank James
Mary Louise Parker: Zee James
Dustin Ballinger: Tim James
Brooklyn Proulx: Mary James

Chad Cosgrave, Jordan Dodds, Randy Hambling, Dennis Hambling, Ross Windman: Crackerneck Stunts

Brent Woolsey: Stunt Coordinator

CREW

Director: Andrew Dominik
Assistant: Evan Godfrey
Prod Manager: Brian Parker
1st AD: Scott Robertson
2nd AD: Karen Sowiak
3rd AD: Lisa Jemus
DP: Roger Deakins
Art Director: Troy Sizemore
Set Decorator: Jan Blackie-Goodine
Costume Designer: Patricia Norris
Key Hair Stylist: Iloe Flewelling
Key make up: Gail Kennedy
Script Supervisor: Nancy McDonald


SCENES

1: Ext - Porch - Dusk
Introduce Jesse Smoking a Cigar

5: Ext - Garden Patch - Dusk
Jesse works in the garden and watches frogs keel over

12: Ext - Blue Cut (as seen from Southern ridge)
establishing shot

13: Ext - Southern Ridge
Bob meets Frank James

15: Ext - Blue Cut Railbed - Dusk
The Crackernecks prep the rail

34: Int - Livingroom
Jesse surprizes his wife

35: Int - Kitchen
Jesse tells Zee that he did well at a cattle auction

40: Ext - Porch
Frank's family gets ready to travel

41: Int - Kitchen
Bob watches Frank's Family pull away

42: Ext - Backyard
Jesse lets Bob stay with the gang, Jesse cuts snake heads

43: Int - Barn
Bob tells Wood and Charley to pack it up

44: Ext - Backyard
Wood wants to stay with Jesse

PROPS

Boulders of Lime and Sandstone
Guns
Rifles
Jesse's Green Cigar
Cigarette makings
Dead Mosquito


These scenes begins shooting on the morning of Friday September 9th and are slated to take three days. Naturally I will report back with more scenes as I get them. And please don't aske me how I got this information. Well, you can ask but I likely wont tell you how I got it.

War Lord
09-08-2005, 01:46 AM
He's in Edmonton, Alberta, you know.

Do you know where that is?

Roughneck
09-08-2005, 01:55 AM
Well Of course Jonty is going to know how I got my Information. I suppose Ballistic Liz would too.


Oh and yes Angelina Jolie is here with Brad.

And No Jonty they are elsewhere. I only got the secondary cast ans crew.

War Lord
09-08-2005, 01:59 AM
Well Of course Jonty is going to know how I got my Information. I suppose Ballistic Liz would too.


Oh and yes Angelina Jolie is here with Brad.

And No Jonty they are elsewhere. I only got the secondary cast ans crew.

At the Mac?

Any women on the crew?

Roughneck
09-08-2005, 02:12 AM
I am not going to confirm that they are at the Mac. But they sure arent an any other hotel.

Yes there are plenty of women on the crew.

Hunter Rider
09-08-2005, 06:04 AM
http://www.latinoreview.com/

First image

http://img373.imageshack.us/img373/4505/jesse1wf.jpg

Roughneck
09-08-2005, 06:24 AM
For constant updates on the progress of this film go here.


http://www.superherohype.com/forums/showthread.php?t=197780

War Lord
09-08-2005, 07:59 AM
I am not going to confirm that they are at the Mac. But they sure arent an any other hotel.

Yes there are plenty of women on the crew.

Understood. :cool:

Sava
09-08-2005, 08:37 AM
http://www.latinoreview.com/

First image

http://img373.imageshack.us/img373/4505/jesse1wf.jpg

oh... no blond? :(

dpm07
09-08-2005, 11:45 AM
Should be interesting.

That-Guy
09-08-2005, 11:53 AM
http://www.latinoreview.com/

First image

http://img373.imageshack.us/img373/4505/jesse1wf.jpg


Heh, he actually looks like Colin Farrel in that picture.

Hunter Rider
09-08-2005, 05:37 PM
Bigger high res version


http://img359.imageshack.us/img359/2628/jj12ky.jpg

Dark Donnie
09-08-2005, 06:13 PM
cool pic, thanks Hunter!

Roughneck
09-10-2005, 02:05 AM
CAST

Brad Pitt: Jesse James
Casey Affleck: Robert Ford
Sam Rockwell: Charley
Paul Schneider: Dick Liddil
Jeremy Renner: Wood Hite
Sam Shepard: Frank James
Mary Louise Parker: Zee James
Dustin Ballinger: Tim James
Brooklyn Proulx: Mary James

Chad Cosgrave, Jordan Dodds, Randy Hambling, Dennis Hambling, Ross Windman: Crackerneck Stunts

Brent Woolsey: Stunt Coordinator

CREW

Director: Andrew Dominik
Assistant: Evan Godfrey
Prod Manager: Brian Parker
1st AD: Scott Robertson
2nd AD: Karen Sowiak
3rd AD: Lisa Jemus
DP: Roger Deakins
Art Director: Troy Sizemore
Set Decorator: Jan Blackie-Goodine
Costume Designer: Patricia Norris
Key Hair Stylist: Iloe Flewelling
Key make up: Gail Kennedy
Script Supervisor: Nancy McDonald


SCENES

1: Ext - Porch - Dusk
Introduce Jesse Smoking a Cigar

5: Ext - Garden Patch - Dusk
Jesse works in the garden and watches frogs keel over

12: Ext - Blue Cut (as seen from Southern ridge)
establishing shot

13: Ext - Southern Ridge
Bob meets Frank James

15: Ext - Blue Cut Railbed - Dusk
The Crackernecks prep the rail

34: Int - Livingroom
Jesse surprizes his wife

35: Int - Kitchen
Jesse tells Zee that he did well at a cattle auction

40: Ext - Porch
Frank's family gets ready to travel

41: Int - Kitchen
Bob watches Frank's Family pull away

42: Ext - Backyard
Jesse lets Bob stay with the gang, Jesse cuts snake heads

43: Int - Barn
Bob tells Wood and Charley to pack it up

44: Ext - Backyard
Wood wants to stay with Jesse

PROPS

Boulders of Lime and Sandstone
Guns
Rifles
Jesse's Green Cigar
Cigarette makings
Dead Mosquito


These scenes begins shooting on the morning of Friday September 9th and are slated to take three days. Naturally I will report back with more scenes as I get them. And please don't aske me how I got this information. Well, you can ask but I likely wont tell you how I got it.


192 - Int - Seidenfaden Undertaking
Jesse is Strapped and photographed.

193 - I/E - Alex Lozo Photographic Studio
Reporters Follow the photographer; he carries away the dry plate

196 - Int - Seidenfaden Undertaking
Zee sits catatonically in a chair, move in on Jesse

200 - INT - Seidenfaden Undertaking
A Photograph is taken of Jesse

208 - Ext - Photo Set Piece
Reporters question Bob as he is photographed

Roughneck
09-12-2005, 08:34 AM
Nothing new. Butg I was just talking to 3rd AD Lisa Jemus, not about the film. But she is a Hottie. Damn!

Hunter Rider
10-27-2005, 09:01 AM
Some pics from the set

http://www.themovieinsider.com/n2351.html


http://img409.imageshack.us/img409/4531/small24qw0mc.jpg (http://imageshack.us/?x=my6&myref=http://imageshack.us/)

http://img457.imageshack.us/img457/5486/small104hr0zw.jpg (http://imageshack.us/?x=my6&myref=http://imageshack.us/)

http://img467.imageshack.us/img467/2919/small130na9ed.jpg (http://imageshack.us/?x=my6&myref=http://imageshack.us/)

That-Guy
10-27-2005, 10:38 AM
This looks great. I've been waiting for a good Western.

Dark Donnie
12-21-2005, 03:18 PM
http://img248.imageshack.us/img248/1750/424246rz.gif

Darth Elektra
12-21-2005, 05:56 PM
This looks great. I've been waiting for a good Western.

I aggree been waiting for some good westerns!

Hunter Rider
01-05-2006, 04:19 PM
http://img419.imageshack.us/img419/8835/assassinationofjessejames22fo.jpg (http://imageshack.us/?x=my6&myref=http://imageshack.us/index.php)

Dark Donnie
01-05-2006, 04:22 PM
Thats the Premiere Magazine pic I was talking about a bit ago! Nice Find :up:!

Son Of Logan
01-05-2006, 04:25 PM
Oh, man. I can't wait for this. Forgive me if I missed it in the thread....what is the release date?

Hunter Rider
01-05-2006, 04:28 PM
Thats the Premiere Magazine pic I was talking about a bit ago! Nice Find :up:!

:up: this is looking promising,BTW who's that in your Avvy ?

Son Of Logan there isnt a release date yet

Son Of Logan
01-05-2006, 04:30 PM
:up: this is looking promising,BTW who's that in your Avvy ?

Son Of Logan there isnt a release date yet

Thanks. I agree it looks great. And whoever said he looks like Colin Farrell in American Outlaws...I thought the same thing.

Dark Donnie
01-05-2006, 04:32 PM
:up: this is looking promising,BTW who's that in your Avvy ?


Think Mcfly Think......Scarlett Johansson of course:up: :p

Hunter Rider
01-05-2006, 04:39 PM
Think Mcfly Think......Scarlett Johansson of course:up: :p
I expect a PM with the full size pics any minute now:mad: http://www.superherohype.com/forums/images/icons/icon10.gif

Dark Donnie
01-05-2006, 05:46 PM
I expect a PM with the full size pics any minute now:mad: http://www.superherohype.com/forums/images/icons/icon10.gif
Im sending now!:up:

Hunter Rider
04-27-2006, 02:39 PM
Teaser Trailer:up:

http://movies.yahoo.com/mv/mf/frame?theme=minfo&lid=wmv-700-p.1425230-166254,qtv-56-p.1425223-166254,qtv-100-p.1425224-166254,qtv-300-p.1425225-166254,qtv-700-p.1425226-166254,wmv-56-p.1425227-166254,wmv-100-p.1425228-166254,wmv-300-p.1425229-166254,qtv-28-p.1425223-166254,wmv-28-p.1425227-166254&id=1808724433&f=1808724433&mspid=1809280295&type=t

The Kid
04-27-2006, 02:52 PM
i hate the term, but yeah that guy's emo.

Darth Elektra
04-27-2006, 03:36 PM
Teaser Trailer:up:

http://movies.yahoo.com/mv/mf/frame?theme=minfo&lid=wmv-700-p.1425230-166254,qtv-56-p.1425223-166254,qtv-100-p.1425224-166254,qtv-300-p.1425225-166254,qtv-700-p.1425226-166254,wmv-56-p.1425227-166254,wmv-100-p.1425228-166254,wmv-300-p.1425229-166254,qtv-28-p.1425223-166254,wmv-28-p.1425227-166254&id=1808724433&f=1808724433&mspid=1809280295&type=t

Awsome, Im pulling it up right now.

Sava
04-27-2006, 03:37 PM
nice teaser :up:

Darth Elektra
04-27-2006, 03:40 PM
Way to short! But looks very promising!

Lurk
04-27-2006, 05:12 PM
It looks like they're not addressing the Younger brothers and the James-Younger gang?

slipknotrocks
04-27-2006, 05:16 PM
A very good looking movie!

Movies205
04-27-2006, 05:28 PM
Looks good but was anyone else reminded of teh 1930s with the smoke, it just reminded me of The Untouchables for some reason :(

Hunter Rider
04-27-2006, 05:47 PM
Here's a saveable fullscreen QT version

http://www.megaupload.com/?d=7PKTF3CT

Hades
04-27-2006, 06:11 PM
It looks strange seeing Pitt with black hair and a blonde beard...

Hunter Rider
05-01-2006, 02:33 PM
New Pics

http://img397.imageshack.us/img397/6664/movieimage29701en.jpg (http://imageshack.us/?x=my6&myref=http://imageshack.us/)

http://img353.imageshack.us/img353/1980/movieimage52492vt.jpg (http://imageshack.us/?x=my6&myref=http://www.imageshack.us/)

http://img474.imageshack.us/img474/848/movieimage52508ia.jpg (http://imageshack.us/?x=my6&myref=http://imageshack.us/)

Motown Marvel
05-02-2006, 12:31 AM
i think the movie is gonna be good, but that teaser was pretty weak. but i also think this film is going to be the beginning of a ressurgence of the western genre, thats been a long time coming.

green
11-09-2006, 10:24 AM
Still no release date but a few early looks...

http://www.aintitcool.com/node/30637?an_incredibly_early_look_at_the_assasination _of_jesse_james_by_the_coward_robert_ford_starring _brad_pitt

http://www.aintitcool.com/node/30641?another_witness_to_the_assassination_of_jess e_james_by_the_coward_robert_ford_its_produced_by_ ridley__tony_scott

Hunter Rider
02-28-2007, 01:32 PM
http://www.aintitcool.com/node/31722

More Powerful Early Word Rolling In On THE ASSASSINATION OF JESSE JAMES BY THE COWARD ROBERT FORD!!

Hey, everyone. ”Moriarty” here.

I can’t wait to see this one.

Ed Havens, esteemed editor of FilmJerk, has been buzzing in various forums for the last few days about how impressed he was with a test screening of this film. Our spy was at that same screening, and it sounds like people are really flipping for what they’re seeing. I’ve been hearing fantastic buzz about Casey Affleck’s work for a while now. Could this be one of 2007’s heavy hitters?

Hey Harry and Moriarity, ACTIONMAN here with a new review. You last posted my rave for 300 and boy do I have another one for you.

Last night I caught an advanced screening of THE ASSASSINATION OF JESSE JAMES BY THE COWARD ROBERT FORD (from here on referred to as JESSE JAMES for the purposes of fast typing) here at the Grove in Los Angeles. I’m going to keep this as spoiler free as possible, but let's be honest here, if you know anything about history or took the time to read the title of the film you already know the ending.

Directed by Andrew Dominik, who previously made the nasty little movie CHOPPER with that incredible performance from Eric Bana, JESSE JAMES is a lyrical, brooding, atmospheric anti-Western that gave me the goose bumps numerous times throughout the 2 hour and 20 minute run time. Dominik has skyrocketed to the top of young directors with this film. I might have expected a film of such power and force from an established director but I just had no idea that this guy was capable of such a movie. He must've gotten tons and tons of big Hollywood offers after CHOPPER was unleashed but I’m glad he waited. This film is a masterwork. It's the closest thing to a Terrence Malick movie that Terrence Malick never directed. I was reminded many times of Malick's most recent masterpiece THE NEW WORLD while watching JESSE JAMES; there are stretches with no dialogue, heavy emphasis on nature, and a poetic and meditative tone. I hesitate to call JESSE JAMES a "western"....I mean, it's certainly not a "Western" like the recent OPEN RANGE, THE MISSING, or UNFORGIVEN. It’s not concerned with minutiae or artifice; it’s stark, crisp, and clean.

It's essentially a psychological study of a murder, and a murderer, and it doesn’t play to many of the more cliché Western conventions that we’ve seen over and over again. I will keep the story description brief: Casey Affleck plays Robert Ford, and is absolutely amazing in the role. I have never thought anything of him as an actor but that all changed last night. He has a very, very tough role, playing a deeply unsympathetic guy who the audience knows will end up killing Jesse James at some point in the narrative. Affleck brings a strung-out, beaten-down quality to the character of Ford, and as the movie progresses, you watch as he becomes more confident of himself, and how he starts to believe his own madness.

Brad Pitt plays Jesse James with cocky swagger and is just awesome. He owns the role, it’s like it was tailor made for him. Just watch the way the guy smokes his cigars and moves his head and eyes….methodical and unnerving. Like Ford, Jesse isn't a very likeable guy (come to think of it, nobody in the movie is particularly likeable) but you end up warming to him a little bit (I did at least) even though he's basically asking to get killed throughout the entire picture.

The supporting cast is aces across the board, with Sam Rockwell registering best as Ford's brother. This guy is so damn good it's a crime he doesn't get enough attention. Sam Shepard, Mary Louise Parker, and slew of excellent character actors round out the cast. But the movie belongs to Casey Affleck. He's just riveting all throughout.

The film is more about style and atmosphere than anything else. It's a tone poem of sorts about a gritty, dark period in American history. It feels extremely intimate yet very epic at times, due in large part to the stunning cinematography by Roger Deakins (FARGO, JARHEAD, O BROTHER WHERE ART THOU?) Using what appeared to be natural light almost exclusively, and an impressionistic shooting style composed of beautiful vistas, extreme close-ups, silhouettes, moonlight, train-light, and a gauzy effect similar to Bob Richardson’s brilliant cinematography in SNOW FALLING ON CEDARS. It's just glorious. Every shot is perfect. No joke. I am a big fan of movies that lean on the visual aspects of storytelling to present information; and this being a Ridley and Tony Scott production, no expense has been spared to make JESSE JAMES look totally authentic (without being garish or over-blown) Of late, some of my favorite films have been THE NEW WORLD, CHILDREN OF MEN, THE GOOD SHEPHERD, MUNICH, THE DEPARTED, MIAMI VICE, APOCALYPTO, CITY OF GOD, MAN ON FIRE, and many others. I am attracted to the different ways that filmmakers can present their ideas through visuals, rather than words.

And I just fell in love with this film from the start. From the god-like voiceover narration that runs over the entire movie to the attention paid to each and every shot, there are moments of sublime beauty at almost every turn in this film. It's essentially an art film set in the old west. And when the story gets violent, it gets extremely intense. In fact, one of the things that I loved about this film so much was the constant feeling of dread and uncertainty that runs through each scene. Right from the start, you get the feeling that any character could meet their maker at any point. And that's one of the things about the old West that made that time period so dangerous; people got killed in a heartbeat, over simple stuff. And when people get shot in this film, it's brutal and unflinching. Not sensationalized or over the top, but rather grim and raw. Like what you'd see on DEADWOOD.

What makes JESSE JAMES better than most movies are the moral shades of gray that the characters exhibit. JESSE JAMES is basically about how one man comes to the decision to kill his idol, and in the crudest comparison, I guess maybe the movie is sort of like a stalker-thriller. Ford idolizes Jesse, wants to ride with him, wants to rob with him. But the relationship that develops between the two men is awkward and volatile, giving off an un-easy feeling all throughout the movie.

I know this review is all over the place but there are so many things I loved about this movie. The time Dominik took to tell his story, the gripping performances, the literate dialogue, the incredible scenery, and the breathtaking ending that is so perfect it's almost a joke. It's stark, visceral, beautiful, and haunting. But here's the deal---I doubt you'll all get to see this version of the movie. I got the sense (maybe from the dozen or so walk-outs, mostly female) that this movie is going to get trimmed and cut and unnecessarily messed with. After the screening, I marched right up to Ridley Scott (who produced the movie with his brother Tony) and told him in these exact words: "Don't change a single frame of this film." He smiled, we chatted briefly, I told him how amazing I thought it was but that I felt that the audience might be narrow. He seemed to agree. A cool guy, and one of my personal film heroes.

So, in a nutshell, an amazing effort from a new, dynamic voice in film--Andrew Dominik. I'd assume Warner's will release JESSE JAMES sometime in the fall, and I won't be surprised if it's a limited release at first. While it couldn't have cost a ton of money to produce, it's such a specific niche-film that I fear it will get overlooked. If that were to happen, it'd be a crime. A complete crime. There was absolutely nothing I didn't love about this movie, and I could only hope that 10 movies of this caliber would get released every year. THE ASSASSINATION OF JESSE JAMES is the kind of movie that makes me happy to be a film buff, and one that I can't wait to re-watch over and over again. Please, please, please Warners---don't take anything out of this gem. You've made an art-film....treat it with the respect it deserves.

Sava
02-28-2007, 02:17 PM
:up:... the guy who made Chopper... i'm so there

Fanticon
02-28-2007, 05:04 PM
got dang...when is this coming out? I saw the trailer over a year ago...if its as good as Harry says it is...then the studio should hold off on its release untill about Fall '07. Awards season and all.

Dark Donnie
03-23-2007, 11:57 PM
Joe Carnahan (director of Smokin' Aces, etc...) posted a review of Jesse James up on his blog...



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THE ASSASSINATION OF JESSE JAMES BY THE COWARD ROBERT FORD

02/01/2007 at 08:23 AM

Guys:

I've been meaning to post this for a little while and haven't had the opportunity, so here it is. I had the distinct privilege and pleasure of getting a sneak peek at Andrew Dominik's film 'The Assassination of Jesse James by the coward Robert Ford' and all I can say is:

Holy *****.

It's so close to being a full-fledged masterpiece, it literally had me sitting there, saying things like 'Where the hell has Casey Affleck been?' He's a LOCK for some sort of major acting nod. Be it Globe, Oscar, something. Nobody comes out of this movie without viewing that guy in whole other light. Mindblowing. I'm not bullshi*ting you guys. He's that good. And Brad Pitt has never been better in a film. He too, should be lauded for what he accomplishes with that role. The guy projects a menace I've never seen and goes very, VERY deep.

There are moments of still and utter silence between characters as tense and awkward and terrifying as anything you've ever seen. Andrew's ability to just allow a scene to develop gradually and let the audience watch and observe without the need for rampant schisms of rocket propelled editorial breaks is the mark of a true master. If you saw and loved 'Chopper' then I can't imagine you not falling head over heels for this flick.

We throw words around like 'brilliant' and attach greatness to things that in the end don't really deserve that level of praise...This one DOES.

I'm hoping Warner Brothers understands what this film can be and allows Andrew's cut to see the light of day. At nearly three hours it's something of such sublime, elegaic beauty and vicious intent, that I don't think we'll see a film like it for a long time to come.

Hunter Rider
05-02-2007, 09:06 PM
http://uk.movies.ign.com/articles/785/785057p1.html
The Assassination of Jesse James?
Brouhaha over Pitt's long-delayed Western.
by Stax (ff_mail@ign.com)



US, May 2, 2007 - The reasons for the long delay of Warners' The Assassination of Jesse James by the Coward Robert Ford, starring Brad Pitt as the legendary outlaw and based on the novel by Ron Hansen, have finally been revealed.

According to the Los Angeles Times, the key issues behind the brouhaha are the film's tone and over three-hour running time. The studio is said to have wanted more of a Clint Eastwood-style actioner, while director Andrew Dominik "wanted to deliver a dark, contemplative examination of fame and infamy, in the spirit of director Terrence Malick."

Dominik delivered his cut of the film, while Pitt, who is also the film's producer, cut his own version. The Times reports, "Various versions of the film were assembled and tested, with Pitt, producer Ridley Scott (Gladiator) and editor Michael Kahn (Saving Private Ryan) either overseeing new cuts of the film or suggesting revisions, according to people familiar with the process." To make matters worse, test screenings reportedly fared poorly.


http://moviesmedia.ign.com/movies/image/article/785/785057/pitt-as-jessejames1_1178132795.jpg (http://uk.media.movies.ign.com/media/041/041178/imgs_1.html) - WB

Click for more images of Brad Pitt as Jesse James.


With a September 21 release date set for Jesse James, the paper says it's not certain yet which version will be released. But Warners said in a statement last week that the version to be released will be "true to the source material and in keeping with the creative vision of its filmmakers. We do not comment on the internal creative process of bringing a picture to the screen, but the goal of both the studio and the filmmakers is to deliver the best film possible. We are all very pleased with the picture we are bringing to theaters this fall.

Darth Elektra
05-03-2007, 03:02 AM
The Assassination of Jesse James?
Brouhaha over Pitt's long-delayed Western.
by Stax

May 2, 2007 - The reasons for the long delay of Warners' The Assassination of Jesse James by the Coward Robert Ford, starring Brad Pitt as the legendary outlaw and based on the novel by Ron Hansen, have finally been revealed.

According to the Los Angeles Times, the key issues behind the brouhaha are the film's tone and over three-hour running time. The studio is said to have wanted more of a Clint Eastwood-style actioner, while director Andrew Dominik "wanted to deliver a dark, contemplative examination of fame and infamy, in the spirit of director Terrence Malick."

Dominik delivered his cut of the film, while Pitt, who is also the film's producer, cut his own version. The Times reports, "Various versions of the film were assembled and tested, with Pitt, producer Ridley Scott (Gladiator) and editor Michael Kahn (Saving Private Ryan) either overseeing new cuts of the film or suggesting revisions, according to people familiar with the process." To make matters worse, test screenings reportedly fared poorly.

http://img365.imageshack.us/img365/4116/pittasjessejames1117813he9.jpg (http://imageshack.us)

With a September 21 release date set for Jesse James, the paper says it's not certain yet which version will be released. But Warners said in a statement last week that the version to be released will be "true to the source material and in keeping with the creative vision of its filmmakers. We do not comment on the internal creative process of bringing a picture to the screen, but the goal of both the studio and the filmmakers is to deliver the best film possible. We are all very pleased with the picture we are bringing to theaters this fall."

Motown Marvel
05-03-2007, 02:49 PM
^^^was anyone else reading that just thinking "blade runner, blade runner, blade runner"

god, i hope they dont f**k this up.

Cinemaman
05-03-2007, 02:50 PM
Wow, it reminds me what exactly happened with Blade Runner and it's great number of different versions!

Hunter Rider
08-16-2007, 09:08 PM
http://i16.tinypic.com/4lpxnis.jpg

http://i19.tinypic.com/4t9c39t.jpg

Dark Donnie
08-23-2007, 10:52 AM
New Jesse James Trailer Online
Source: Warner Bros. Pictures August 23, 2007


Warner Bros. Pictures has released the new trailer for The Assassination of Jesse James by the Coward Robert Ford, starring Brad Pitt, Casey Affleck, Jeremy Renner, Mary-Louise Parker, Paul Schneider, Sam Rockwell, Sam Shepard and Zooey Deschanel. The movie opens September 21.

You can watch the trailer here. (http://www.comingsoon.net/films.php?id=11130)

Hunter Rider
08-23-2007, 11:30 AM
"Not available":csad:

Dark Donnie
08-23-2007, 11:43 AM
What about this
http://pdl.stream.aol.com/aol/us/moviefone/movies/2007/assassinationofjessejamesthe_026180/assassinationofjessejamesthe_trlr_02_700_dl.mov

Dark Donnie
08-23-2007, 11:46 AM
Cinematography looks absolutely amazing....easy oscar nomination for that

Hunter Rider
08-23-2007, 12:32 PM
What about this
http://pdl.stream.aol.com/aol/us/moviefone/movies/2007/assassinationofjessejamesthe_026180/assassinationofjessejamesthe_trlr_02_700_dl.mov

Thanks :up:

The movie has a haunting beauty about it from the looks of the trailer, a lethargic western with a lot of character it would seem.

Dark Donnie
08-23-2007, 01:05 PM
The look of the film is great, I love the color. My sound kept cutting out so I couldn't really get into the dialouge to much. :(

Mr. Credible
08-23-2007, 01:18 PM
not a bad little preview... i'm not sold on casey affleck, though. he talks like he's from the 21st century.

OptimusCannabis
08-23-2007, 01:34 PM
Looks like the best western since 'Unforgiven,' at least. This may very well be the best western in the last 30 years.

Mr. Credible
08-23-2007, 01:47 PM
nothing will top tombstone.... ever.

War Party
08-23-2007, 11:28 PM
Here's another site with the trailer:

http://www.firstshowing.net/2007/08/23/new-trailer-for-assassination-of-jesse-james-by-the-coward-robert-ford/

turtlefocker
08-24-2007, 12:08 AM
I really liked the trailer looks like an excellent character peice

turtlefocker
08-24-2007, 01:25 PM
youtube for easy access

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Hush
08-24-2007, 02:24 PM
I hope Pitt finally gets his Oscar for this movie, I will be first in line.

Rezzo
08-24-2007, 04:06 PM
Poster

http://img515.imageshack.us/img515/592/assassinationofjessejamiv6.jpg

Hunter Rider
08-24-2007, 04:40 PM
Poster is a bit bland after the stunning trailer IMO.

Cinemaman
08-24-2007, 09:43 PM
Cool trailer, got me impressed :up:

WorthyStevens
08-25-2007, 03:18 PM
Looks great. Brad's my favorite actor so hopefully he'll get some recognition for this.

Hunter Rider
08-27-2007, 08:51 PM
http://pdl.warnerbros.com/wbol/uk/movies/assassinationofjessejames/assassination_of_jesse_james_tlrf2_qt_500.mov

International trailer.

Hunter Rider
08-31-2007, 08:22 PM
http://movies.yahoo.com/movie/1808724433/video/3915891/

Trailer 2

turtlefocker
08-31-2007, 08:44 PM
Best Picture nomination anyone?

Rezzo
08-31-2007, 08:46 PM
Best Picture nomination anyone?

Not too sure about that

Rezzo
08-31-2007, 08:48 PM
http://movies.yahoo.com/movie/1808724433/video/3915891/

Trailer 2

HD Trailer 2

480p (http://playlist.yahoo.com/makeplaylist.dll?sdm=web&pt=rd&sid=42484100)

720p (http://playlist.yahoo.com/makeplaylist.dll?sdm=web&pt=rd&sid=42484119)

1080p (http://playlist.yahoo.com/makeplaylist.dll?sdm=web&pt=rd&sid=42484133)

Argyle of Sock
08-31-2007, 10:48 PM
Good, a new trailer. It's been pushed back so long that I was starting to think that this was a fake movie, and they just dressed Pitt up as a cowboy and took some pictures to mess with our heads. :ninja:

bullets
09-01-2007, 12:38 AM
they should shorten the title , the by the coward thing is kind of corny

Argyle of Sock
09-01-2007, 02:19 AM
^It comes from the title of the book it's based on, but seriously, wouldn't you love to be a fly on the wall at one of their marketing meetings tying to sell it with this title. I'm not sure why they don't shorten it.

Hunter Rider
09-07-2007, 12:16 AM
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Rob Lobo
09-07-2007, 02:13 AM
looks damn awesome :thumbsup:

Batspider77
09-07-2007, 08:57 AM
can´t wait for this Movie.....all the early Reviews where positive.

turtlefocker
09-15-2007, 10:26 AM
can´t wait for this Movie.....all the early Reviews where positive.

....

http://latinoreview.com/filmreview.php?id=338

5 Successful things every western movie must have:

Characters you care about.
Exciting gun fights.
A villain you hate.
Tragedy followed by revenge
Poker. Actually every movie should have poker in it.The western film I’m about to talk about has none of these things.

Our’ Wake me up in 2 hours’ movie is TAOJJBTCRF. I’ve spelled the title out once, and I’m not going to spell it out again. While the title may seem to go on forever, it actually fits for a film that seems to go on for forever. After two years, Jessie James is finally going to be released after having been re-edited more times then the studio can count. It has lingered in between having a three hour runtime to having a two hour runtime, so they decided to just stick to a runtime of about two and a half hours. If you’re starting to notice how I haven’t actually begun to talk about the film itself, it’s because just writing about it will probably put me to sleep.

Brad Pitt (http://latinoreview.com/filmreview.php?id=338#) is trying to get audiences to forget his performance as a pretty Tarzan in Legends of the Fall by playing a scoundrel. While I actually enjoyed Legends, especially when Anthony Hopkins does his comical performance as a stroke victim, it was a pretty gay movie. Pitt plays the legendary thief, robber, and murderer Jesse James. Casey Affleck is Robert Ford, a man pretending to be James’ friend only to eventually shoot him from behind, with Sam Rockwell playing Robert’s brother Charley. There are other actors in the movie but they’re about as interesting as these three so I’m not even going to bother bringing them up. I do like the actors, but they never sold me on these characters. I couldn’t buy Brad Pitt as a crazy badass and Casey’s performance was annoying and never grew on me. The only guy who seemed to be able to have some fun with his role was Sam Rockwell, but he’s usually spot on no matter what character he’s playing.

There’s a minimal amount of action in Assassination, focusing more on Jessie’s relationship with Robert and Charley. It would be interesting to watch if you’re used to seeing western drama pieces on A&E, but here dialogue dominates the film and each scene seems to move at the pace of a roomful of senior citizens playing a game of Bingo. It’s sad when older western TV (http://latinoreview.com/filmreview.php?id=338#) shows are more fascinating to watch than a new film about the death of one of histories greatest outlaws. Director Andrew Dominik seemed intent on making each scene try to feel like a moving portrait. He also loved camera shots of a door opening, focusing on the scenery outside, and then having a person that we see from behind walk thru said door. He seemed to do that about 5 times in the movie which is overkill if you’re trying to be ‘artistic’. Some of the shots were pretty to look at, but I’m not interested in a western movie if the only things enjoyable in it are the ****ing trees.

The character of Jessie is depicted as a man who wears many hats. One minute he’s a loving, caring father, the next minute he has no problem shooting a man he thinks has betrayed him. If you don’t know much about the life of the real Jesse James, don’t worry. You still won’t know very much after having watched this movie since it focuses on Jessie’s life after telling his gang he’s retiring from robbing. Great. Instead of seeing all the cool stuff I get to watch Jessie play Martha Stewart (http://latinoreview.com/filmreview.php?id=338#) to his buddies. There’s no sex or nudity in the film either. I was hoping for some to keep my attention focused on the screen rather than count how many rows of seats Warner Brothers has in their screening room, but the only time we think a sex scene is coming it’s robbed from us when the woman blows out the candle and we go to the next scene. The sex scene, if they had shown it, would have taken place inside of an outhouse which is a perfect location to store all of the **** we’ve been exposed to in the first half of the film.

During the first half of Jessie James my watch died which was a sure sign from the Gods that I’m caught in a time vacuum of suck. The Big Bang, building the Great Wall of China, and shaving Tom Selleck’s chest are all events that have a shorter time span than this movie. When we finally get to the scene of Robert shooting Jessie from behind, it’s depicted as Jessie knowing it’s coming and accepting his fate which is just stupid since all they’ve shown us up to this point is a man hell bent on wanting to stay alive. So for me to accept Jessie as possibly knowing it was coming when he was cleaning one of the pictures on his wall is bull**** and a lame attempt and getting us to feel pity for the character just because female audiences don’t want to see Brad Pitt get his brains blown out.

If you absolutely must see every Brad Pitt film then no review will keep you from it. Just be warned that you’re in for one long, boring ride. Brad doesn’t even dominate the screen time so you had best be a big fan of Casey Affleck (http://latinoreview.com/filmreview.php?id=338#) as well since there’s a lot of scenes after the assassination that deal with how Robert’s shooting of Jessie was portrayed to society. The movie just never seems to end. My advice? Save two hours by reading about Jessie James’ life on Wikipedia. It’s not as painful an experience.

Movies205
09-15-2007, 10:27 AM
I hate Latino Review, mainly because there script reviews are beyond CRAP so I'll take this with a grain of salt :yay:

turtlefocker
09-15-2007, 10:34 AM
Its easier to review a film than a script though

Movies205
09-15-2007, 10:56 AM
Its easier to review a film than a script though

Touche...

However, I have high hopes for this film so I won't let it be dashed by one review :cmad:

french joker
09-15-2007, 11:52 AM
....

http://latinoreview.com/filmreview.php?id=338
That's a crappy review, congratulations to LatinoReview :up:

turtlefocker
09-16-2007, 10:54 AM
http://www.aintitcool.com/node/33899

There are few tales told with the somber bittersweet taste of melancholy, like that of THE ASSASSINATION OF JESSE JAMES BY THE COWARD ROBERT FORD.

Why submit to a tale of melancholy – a film where you know right from the out start… Jesse James will be shot, in the back, by the coward Robert Ford.

Everyone knows that part of the story. It’s widely known that Bob Ford shot Jesse James while he was dusting or adjusting a photograph in his own living room. However, do you know why Robert Ford pulled that trigger? Do you know how well they knew each other, that Bob loved Jesse James more than any other person on the planet – and that there’s a lot more to the story than that eventual act of cowardice – which could be interpretated as an act of mercy, an act of self-defense or just an error in judgment… a mistake.

It is a very interesting time we live in where I’ve just seen one of the best Westerns since the death of the Genre with 3:10 TO YUMA – to then be faced by the exact sort of masterful Western that killed the genre altogether.

In the late 1960’s and 70’s – a genre of western came about that ignored the Penny Dreadfuls, the myths and the legends – and instead of the John Ford or Howard Hawks Western take – there became a new way of making westerns. They were Westerns that new they were dying. Films like THE WILD BUNCH and THE PROFESSIONALS were the first signs… They were the brutal westerns where your friends died and the good guys and the bad guys started to become… well, less clearly defined. Then came the Westerns that ceased to look like anything we’ve seen before – no – not ZACHARIAH or EL TOPO – though those definitely count. No – I’m talking about films like JEREMIAH JOHNSON, A MAN CALLED HORSE, THE BALLAD OF CABLE HOGUE or PAT GARRETT & BILLY THE KID and THE LONG RIDERS.

These were films about the sad reality of legends. It all sort of culminated with UNFORGIVEN – they underlined that the old west was a beautifully ugly world. The whores were no longer Marlene Dietrich, but women that’d gut you as easily as the men. The photography and the scores for the westerns became arty and obscure. They ceased to be about characters you could root for and get behind, and became about how we’re all alone on this world and we’re all going to die badly… oh… and there’s no such thing as a hero.

THE ASSASSINATION OF JESSE JAMES BY THE COWARD ROBERT FORD is a brilliant western in that crowd. I love these films – just as I love the mythic westerns. But with this film in particular – it isn’t so much about demystifying the myth of Jesse James – as much as punctuating how tragic and sad the end of that myth was.

My favorite all time Jesse James on film is currently Brad Pitt. There’s a wild rabid dog in his eyes – there’s moments when he’s a nightmare and yet you could see why people would like him. Don’t get me wrong – I love James Keach and Tyrone Power. This particular story was done very well by director Samuel Fuller with his I SHOT JESSE JAMES, as Sam’s very first film to direct. Even James Dean played Jesse on Walter Cronkite’s amazing show, “YOU ARE THERE” – and I have to wonder what that was. I’d love to see it – just because James Dean was very definitely an actor – not unlike Brad Pitt in technique and style. But Brad’s Jesse James is a squirrelly character. He observes the room he’s in, studying anyone in it and their every move. And everyone else reacts to him – as if he’s a rattlesnake. They become still and cautious. There’s respect and fear. Nobody wants to get bit, but they all know if they spend too long with him, it’ll be an inevitability.

However, as great as Brad is as Jesse James – the actor to watch and marvel at in this film is Casey Affleck.

I know – that sounds astonishing, but it is absolutely the god’s own truth. Casey Affleck delivers the single best performance that I’ve seen thus far this year. His Robert Ford is a reprehensible little worm. There’s something about the way he plays this character that makes you want to stand up from your seat and slap the ***** around then hit him with a ****ing shovel. He’s vile and disgusting. But on the surface, he’s just a nice unassuming guy. You would never really notice him. It might be that we all know he’s going to shoot Jesse James. And this story is very much about why that act was such a vile betrayal.

Casey’s Bob Ford is young. He hero worships Jesse James. The line in the trailer, “Do you want to know me or be me?” is so icky in the film, because Casey is watching. Casey’s smile is so disingenuine as to make my skin crawl. It literally gave me the heebie jeebies.

However – this is all distracting the real star of the film… Andrew Dominik. We last saw him with CHOPPER – an utterly brilliant film which birthed Eric Bana on to the scene. The two films are pretty far apart, but essentially a similar tale. Wild Rabid Dogs of the human variety facing betrayal and an end to their reign of terror. But in CHOPPER it was stark reality. Here, it is poetic. There is brutality, but it punctuates the beauty of existence, which you could say is reality. We live in a beautiful world that is punctuated by ugliness. When you watch this film – it’s impossible to not be intoxicated by how beautiful it is. Roger Deakins is a shoo-in for a nomination at least for his work here.

Then there’s the melancholic thread punctuated by the beautiful musical work of Nick Cave and Warren Ellis. If you loved Nick’s brilliant work on THE PROPOSITION – he is again at the top of his game here. That score in conjunction with the narration provided by someone named Hugh Ross… well it gives the film a feeling of impending doom. Any smile or laughter you see are momentary hiccups on the tragedy that is inevitable. Any hope is ended by the deliberate nature of the score and Hugh’s deliberate and slightly sad narration.

All of this combines to make a masterful tragic film. This is a brilliant film.

Darth Elektra
09-16-2007, 01:06 PM
Looking forward to this film!

L0ngsh0t
09-16-2007, 08:52 PM
Its easier to review a film than a script though


Latino Review also gave an A+ (with a subtitle that reads: A movie miracle) to Shoot em Up, which while good, was far far from a movie miricle. They also panned Grindhouse (which I thought was much better than SEU)

One thing I have noticed about LR is they tend to take extremes on things, rarely any B's given out, generally if it isn't an A its a C- or lower

and also, they are just movie critics who don't even have a publication, they are no more credible than you or I

If you think this movie looks sweet there is no reason this half review should throw you off

french joker
12-13-2007, 03:01 PM
am i the only one who saw this masterpiece ?

i know it didn't make a lot at the BO, but hey, we're talking about a bradd pitt movie !

:csad:
at least, the dvd comes out in US on february 5th :
http://www.dvdactive.com/news/releases/assassination-of-jesse-james.html

(i'm telling you : BEST MOVIE OF THE YEAR, get it)

(and best soundtrack of the year :cmad: )

nocomics
12-13-2007, 04:12 PM
Whatever happened to this movie? It made it to a select movie theatres,is it that bad?

french joker
12-13-2007, 04:26 PM
no, it's a fuc**** masterpiece, one of the best motion picture of the years, but it has a been poorly promoted by the warnerbros...

http://www.empireonline.com/reviews/reviewcomplete.asp?FID=9991

War Party
12-13-2007, 04:42 PM
am i the only one who saw this masterpiece ?

i know it didn't make a lot at the BO, but hey, we're talking about a bradd pitt movie !

:csad:
at least, the dvd comes out in US on february 5th :
http://www.dvdactive.com/news/releases/assassination-of-jesse-james.html

(i'm telling you : BEST MOVIE OF THE YEAR, get it)

(and best soundtrack of the year :cmad: )

Nick Cave did the soundtrack I believe. Film was definitely excellent.

Poeman
12-13-2007, 07:10 PM
god this movie was amazing

Carmine Falcone
01-07-2008, 05:10 AM
Indeed. Absolutely fantastic. The best phrase to describe is ''hauntingly beautiful'' and ''hypnotic''. I finished watching it at night, around 00:30 and I suffered a bit from insomnia that night. I didn't sleep at all. So the movie kept running through my head the entire night. I just couldn't get it out of my head for two days. And I think that's one of the highest things a movie can achieve. To creep under your skin and stay there. This one did. By the exquisite combination of images, music and characters.

Dark Donnie
01-07-2008, 09:09 AM
When does the DVD hit?

shapeshifter
01-07-2008, 09:22 AM
kind of surprised that I'm excited for this one.

french joker
01-07-2008, 11:04 AM
I'm glad Falcone loved it as much as I did :cwink:


and I repeat for Dark Donnie : the dvd comes out in US on february 5th :
http://www.dvdactive.com/news/releas...sse-james.html

DACrowe
01-07-2008, 12:05 PM
Can't wait. I saw this movie back in September or October and at the time I called it the best movie of the year. Hauntingly beautiful is still the aptest term for it. It is a masterfully made movie that sticks with you and the dance the characters of Jesse and Bob do is tragically hypnotic with only the outcome of one killing the other. Affleck was amazing in this, as good as he was in Gone Baby Gone, he was AMAZING in this. Oscar-worthy if not for Javier, really.

The cinematography was breathtaking and the end was heartbreaking. I loved how it moved beyond the assassination and how the narrator always pegged Jesse wrong and how Jesse shoots a man in the back in this and the parallels between heroes and villains in myth....it is so sad that thsi did not do well at the box office.

10/10.

Beautiful.

Carmine Falcone
01-08-2008, 05:03 PM
it is so sad that thsi did not do well at the box office.

It is indeed. But very well explainable. It was long and slow. And most people hate long, slow movies. Which in this case, I find absolutely moronic. It is a meditation of a film. (With some quite thrilling moments.) People have to look past the pacing and let the characters, music and images soak in their subconscience. Then, you actually have a very rewarding viewing experience.

I really wonder how I will experience this movie upon multiple viewings.

Hunter Rider
01-08-2008, 05:13 PM
This was out a total of 6 days here on the cinema and the DVD isn't out until the end of March. :cmad: :csad:

Secret_Riddle
01-08-2008, 05:14 PM
Saw it today, great movie.

PWN3R
01-08-2008, 06:48 PM
I already made up my mind about buying the DVD; yes.

I'm just annoyed I couldn't see this beauty on the big screen.
Mississippi:down

Figs
01-08-2008, 07:04 PM
I really love Westerns. Just wondering if I should rent this or just buy it without having watched it before?

DACrowe
01-09-2008, 12:24 AM
I'd say rent, as it is not your typical western and more of a character study and a little on the cerebral side and that may turn some off, but it was one of my two favorite movies this year.

Rac
01-09-2008, 04:57 AM
Freaking amazing movie! Casey Affleck should be at least nominated for Best Actor Oscar. It's been while since I've seen someone so dedicated to a role. Also, Nick Cave and Warren Ellis have done the best score of 2007.

TNC9852002
01-09-2008, 11:33 AM
Never got a chance to see it, but I will somehow..

-TNC

Poeman
01-09-2008, 01:29 PM
its not a western, more a drama on the life of jesse and the relationship between him and robert.

Great acting and storytelling..and brought a sense of reality to jesse "the legend" james

The Guard
02-07-2008, 02:03 PM
Saw this last night. One of the best movies I've seen this year. Brad Pitt is very, very good as Jesse James. His performance is just haunting. And Casey Affleck, who knew he had it in him? A fantastic reserved and multi layered performance as Robert Ford. The film is definitely not your typical Western, and serves as an interesting study of the dynamic between Jesse and Robert, and the nature of being famous or infamous. A lot of attention to detail in the set design. The only thing I didn't care for about the movie were the voiceovers. They just seemed to take me out of the movie a bit.

"I'll bet you thought I was a lady".

nocomics
02-07-2008, 02:29 PM
I guess I'm hesitant about seeing a movie that was only at select theatres,and then was gone after that in a matter of weeks. I'll probably check it out anyways,as I like westerns and that topic is of interest.

Carmine Falcone
02-07-2008, 02:39 PM
The only thing I didn't care for about the movie were the voiceovers. They just seemed to take me out of the movie a bit.

They worked surprisingly well for me. Not at all as I expected.

Ironic_Commando
02-07-2008, 03:53 PM
I agree, the voiceovers were pretty effective. Gave the movie a book like feel, which I liked. The movie itself is a gorgeous picture, full of great cinematography and fine performances. Casey Affleck is incredible as well.

The Guard
02-07-2008, 06:19 PM
They were effective structurally. Just didn't care for the man's voice.

Chaos Bringer
02-07-2008, 06:51 PM
just rented it and about to sit eat dinner and watch

Alina
02-10-2008, 10:05 AM
I saw the movie not too long ago. I thought it was really good. I believe Casey Affleck got nominated for his role.

WorthyStevens
02-11-2008, 11:11 AM
Finally watched it this morning. One of my most anticipated movies from last year did not disappoint. It was a bit long, but the movie worked on so many levels that the time barely bothered me.

Brad Pitt and Casey Affleck were so unbelievably amazing that I was completely lost in their characters; they WERE Jesse James and Robert Ford. No doubts about that.

Another aspect of the movie I especially liked was the score by Nick Cave. It was haunting and is the kind of music that stays in your head afterwards.

And the cinematography... outstanding. The train robbery piece was breathtaking. I can't wait to buy this baby on HD-DVD.

10/10.

Alina
02-12-2008, 11:42 AM
At first, I thought:"Oh, God, it's so long." But it was worth it 100%.
Nick Cave was responsible for the music? I had no idea. Anyway, he did a great job.

WorthyStevens
02-25-2008, 01:08 AM
You know, I lost some respect for Warner Bros. after tonight. This got snubbed at the Oscars tonight, and if Warner Bros. had had a little more faith in this movie and gave it some more push, it would have received some nominations earlier on.

Ugh. :down

Mee
02-25-2008, 01:18 AM
I really love Westerns. Just wondering if I should rent this or just buy it without having watched it before?
Rent.


Like DAcrowe said, it's not a typical western. For what it is, it's really good. A long, slow, character piece, that's very interesting/entertaining IMO.

Carmine Falcone
02-25-2008, 04:29 AM
BUll**** for this NOT winning best cinematography.

I haven't seen There Will be Blood yet (I will this week, hopefully) but I kinda doubt it's better....

DACrowe
02-25-2008, 11:10 AM
I love both movies. And this had better cinematography. But TWBB made more money had more of a marketing campaign (i.e. bribes) for the Oscars, so what you gonna' do? I'm just glad it didn't go to NCFOM like I suspected it would.

Darkly Dexter
02-25-2008, 12:46 PM
this movie is far better than NCFOM.

War Party
02-25-2008, 01:41 PM
Love Jesse James. Love No Country For Old Men. Love There Will Be Blood. I'm not bitter about anything since all three of these movies kicked major ass. I'm happy No Country and the Coen's won, and I would of been just as happy if There Will Be Blood and Paul Thomas Anderson won. I didn't think There Will Be Blood was a masterpeice like some proclaim, because I think if you take Daniel Day Lewis away from it, it's just another good film. Don't get me wrong, I love the cinematography, the characters, the music, and the tone of the film. But DDL, like he always does, took over the film and I think it wouldn't of been as good if he weren't in it. Same thing for No Country For Old Men. The film wouldn't of been as good if it weren't for Javier Bardem. He just kinda took over the film and you just wanted him to be in every scene. But again, good characters, good cinematography, and a great tone. Jesse James is the only film that didn't have to rely on actors to help make the movie better. It's just a great character study of two people and they found actors to play those parts well. I do agree that it should of won for cinematography, but There Will Be Blood still had great cinematography and it also deserved to win. And when it comes to best picture and best director. Honestly, it's a coin flip. It could of gone to either No Country or There Will Be Blood. It was a very difficult decision to make in my opinion and either film could of eaily taken it. So I'm not even close to being bitter about the results for Director and Picture. I'm happy one of those two won and I hope this oscar buzz will get more people to see these films, even though this was a very low rated Academy Awards.

Sava
03-31-2008, 07:40 AM
great, great movie. Pitt was great but Affleck stole the show.

Dark Donnie
04-03-2008, 10:53 PM
Just watched it, an I thought it was a great film. Like someone stated above it is more of a character study of these men then a true Western but it's still really exceptional. I thought the direction by Domenik was superb, as was the cinematography which I felt deserved an oscar. The performances are top notch as well. Casey Affleck delivers a true Oscar performance as Robert Ford. Brad Pitt completely jumped into Jesse James, I thought it was quite possibly his best performance to date. Quite sad that he didn't even get a nomination. Another performance that I truly loved was Sam Rockwell, I felt he didn't get enough credit, I thought he shined in his role. I would definitely suggest this to anyone that was on the fence. The running time is long at around 2hrs and 40 mins, but its needed. I read there is a 4 hour version that I might check out one day.

I'd give it a 9.5/10

War Party
04-03-2008, 10:57 PM
Sam Rockwell was great in the film. I can't wait to see him in "Choke."

Dark Donnie
04-03-2008, 10:59 PM
Sam Rockwell was great in the film. I can't wait to see him in "Choke."

I felt like he didn't get enough recognition, he really shined I felt. Played the part perfectly, always on edge, always trying to impress Jesse, he was great.

Choke should be great

Dark Donnie
04-03-2008, 11:01 PM
Some interesting things I read over at IMDB:

* When casting for the role of Robert Ford it came down to Casey Affleck and Shia LaBeouf. Affleck eventually got the role, because LaBeouf was felt to be too young.

The original cut of "The Assassination of Jesse James by the Coward Robert Ford" was nearly four hours long. It was edited down to two hours and forty minutes, its current runtime, at the studio's request. However, it did play at least once at its original 4-hour length, most notably at the Venice Film Festival, where Brad Pitt picked up the Best Actor Award. After the viewing, critics at the festival labeled the film as "majestic."

Hunter Rider
04-03-2008, 11:02 PM
My copy arrived on Tuesday. Glad you enjoyed it Donnie. :up:

Dark Donnie
04-03-2008, 11:08 PM
My copy arrived on Tuesday. Glad you enjoyed it Donnie. :up:

Its certainly not for everyone, but I think you'll enjoy it....Like I said a page back, I felt like it was more of a character study of these men, then a true western, but it still succeeds beautifully at that. Great performances all around, and the cinematography was brilliant.

War Party
04-03-2008, 11:12 PM
It's ashame the film was given a terrible DVD release.

Gotham
04-03-2008, 11:20 PM
Just saw Assassination of Jesse James By The Coward Robert Ford. Going to take another viewing to properly understand this film. Right now, I think it's absolutely mesmerizing. Pitt should decide on these roles more often.

Hunter Rider
04-03-2008, 11:22 PM
Its certainly not for everyone, but I think you'll enjoy it....Like I said a page back, I felt like it was more of a character study of these men, then a true western, but it still succeeds beautifully at that. Great performances all around, and the cinematography was brilliant.

What would you compare it to ? and does it top Into the Wild as the best movie of 2007 for you ?

It's ashame the film was given a terrible DVD release.

What do you mean ? The copy i got was 2 discs packaged beautifully and with a book on Jesse James.

WorthyStevens
04-03-2008, 11:23 PM
The U.S. got shafted with only one disc and only one extra.

War Party
04-03-2008, 11:25 PM
What do you mean ? The copy i got was 2 discs packaged beautifully and with a book on Jesse James.

Well you have a region 2 release. The region 1 release is complete crap. It's just the film. If I knew the region 2 one was great, I would of bought that instead.

Hunter Rider
04-03-2008, 11:26 PM
Ah right, i see, didn't realize that guys. :csad:

Dark Donnie
04-03-2008, 11:34 PM
What would you compare it to ? and does it top Into the Wild as the best movie of 2007 for you ?



What do you mean ? The copy i got was 2 discs packaged beautifully and with a book on Jesse James.

I would probably have to view it again to make an absolute judgment, I think I missed a few things...its definitely up there though...its in my top two or three. Walking in I was expecting to be blown away by Affleck which I was but Pitt was amazing as well. It's really sad that this film didn't get much more recognition, I found it to be just as good as NCFOM if not better and that got a ton of awards and nominations. It deserved more IMO.

The US version is only one disc sadly:csad: Barely anything extra wise.

I hope the release the extended version on day, I hear its even better.

Rac
04-04-2008, 02:10 AM
I hope the release the extended version on day, I hear its even better.
Me too.

Maybe the Italians could release it? They released the longer cut of The New World on DVD. Dunno, just a thought.

Carmine Falcone
04-04-2008, 09:38 AM
What do you mean ? The copy i got was 2 discs packaged beautifully and with a book on Jesse James.

I've ordered that ****er from the UK. Because we would've gotten a ****ty one-disc aswell.

It still hasn't arrived though.

War Party
04-04-2008, 10:21 AM
I've ordered that ****er from the UK. Because we would've gotten a ****ty one-disc aswell.

It still hasn't arrived though.

Man, I wish I knew about the UK version. Would of bought that in a heart beat. I actually may buy it though and give my copy to my brother.

Dark Donnie
04-04-2008, 10:27 AM
Man, I wish I knew abotu the UK version. Would of bought that in a heart beat. I actually may buy it though and give my copy to my brother.

Whats on the UK version?

War Party
04-04-2008, 10:29 AM
Whats on the UK version?

This limited collector's edition of The Assassination Of Jesse James By The Coward Robert Ford contains the following extras:

- A hard-back premium packaging with a 44-page book all about the film, the legend and the characters
- A bonus disc featuring the documentary Death of An Outlaw that examines the life and death of the real Jesse James and includes interviews with all the key cast and filmmakers

Dark Donnie
04-04-2008, 10:35 AM
This limited collector's edition of The Assassination Of Jesse James By The Coward Robert Ford contains the following extras:

- A hard-back premium packaging with a 44-page book all about the film, the legend and the characters
- A bonus disc featuring the documentary Death of An Outlaw that examines the life and death of the real Jesse James and includes interviews with all the key cast and filmmakers

That's much better then my bar bones version:csad:

Dark Donnie
04-04-2008, 11:42 AM
What was everyone's favorite scene? Mine aside from the assassination was the scene when Jesse is discussing the bank robbery with the Ford Brothers, and Jesse tells Robert to slide over to him then he begins to give him a back rub. Then out of nowhere he pulls a knife to his throat and says: "How come an off-scouring of creation like you is still sucking air when so many of mine are in coffins?' I'll say 'How'd you reach your twentieth birthday without leaking out all over your clothes?' And if I don't like his attitude, I'll slit that phildoodle so deep he'll flop on the floor like a fish."

Should have gotten a nomination for that scene alone!

Carmine Falcone
04-04-2008, 01:05 PM
Especially the uncontrolled laughter that followed was impressive.

Best scene was that train robbery.
It was a cinematic orgasm.

Dark Donnie
04-04-2008, 01:11 PM
Especially the uncontrolled laughter that followed was impressive.

Best scene was that train robbery.
It was a cinematic orgasm.

That was great.....then he just gave them the stone cold face and left....great acting. Pitt had a few other pretty badass scenes. I liked the scene with the snakes in the yard as well.

The train robbery was brilliant. I feel like watching it again.

Carmine Falcone
04-04-2008, 01:14 PM
I want to watch it ASAP too. But I'm still waiting for that damned DVD. :mad:

Dark Donnie
04-04-2008, 01:24 PM
I want to watch it ASAP too. But I'm still waiting for that damned DVD. :mad:

Sorry to hear that, how long ago did you order it?

I want the 4 hour version, which some have said is even better.

Carmine Falcone
04-04-2008, 02:36 PM
I believe it was only monday. I'm an impatient SOB. :p

Is that 4 hour version available? I'm curious to see it. But I suspect it's a bit of an overkill. I mean, I love long movies but 4 hours is pushing it.

Dark Donnie
04-04-2008, 02:43 PM
I believe it was only monday. I'm an impatient SOB. :p

Is that 4 hour version available? I'm curious to see it. But I suspect it's a bit of an overkill. I mean, I love long movies but 4 hours is pushing it.

haha, give it time, it'll get there:cwink:


Not now, Im sure they will release it eventually. I read a few directors that viewed the 4 hour version and called it an absolute masterpiece. A good deal of the stuff were Pitt scenes apparently, I know he pushed for the 4 hour release but was overturned.

french joker
04-04-2008, 04:28 PM
the 4 hour cut will never be released 'cause Andrew Dominik himself said it was "very bad" and that he was very happy about the theatrical cut

Dark Donnie
04-04-2008, 04:33 PM
the 4 hour cut will never be released 'cause Andrew Dominik himself said it was "very bad" and that he was very happy about the theatrical cut

Do you have the quote? Im curious cause I read an article that stated he wrote the script, and submitted the movie at 4 hours to the studio. He even submitted the 4 hour version to the Venice Film Festival. It said the studio pushed for it to get chopped.

Edit* I just read an interview where he said he had to cut a ton of great stuff and add things he didn't want. So maybe a DC would be a better thing to ask for?

nocomics
04-04-2008, 04:35 PM
Its certainly not for everyone, but I think you'll enjoy it....Like I said a page back, I felt like it was more of a character study of these men, then a true western, but it still succeeds beautifully at that. Great performances all around, and the cinematography was brilliant.
I finally watched this movie last nigth,its a very,very long movie or least it felt that way.
I thought it was okay overall, I don't think its something I would wanna watch over and over. The acting was well done especilly casey afflack,thought he did a great job as Ford..Brad Pitt did an okay job as Jesse James,he was almost a dead on look alike of him..
I agree that the cinematograpy was very good,I think it made the movie imo...

french joker
04-04-2008, 04:58 PM
Do you have the quote? Im curious cause I read an article that stated he wrote the script, and submitted the movie at 4 hours to the studio. He even submitted the 4 hour version to the Venice Film Festival. It said the studio pushed for it to get chopped.

Edit* I just read an interview where he said he had to cut a ton of great stuff and add things he didn't want. So maybe a DC would be a better thing to ask for?
i read it on a french magazine (an interview with A. Dominik) but i would also like to see the quote of what your saying because it seems that he's always saying something different:huh:

(i have just noticed that the movie was still in a cinema near my home, i'm sooo going to see it for the 3rd time:woot:)

Dark Donnie
04-04-2008, 07:13 PM
i read it on a french magazine (an interview with A. Dominik) but i would also like to see the quote of what your saying because it seems that he's always saying something different:huh:

(i have just noticed that the movie was still in a cinema near my home, i'm sooo going to see it for the 3rd time:woot:)

Dominik's initial cut was four-and-a-half-hours long and wasn't great. 'It's not an undiscovered masterpiece, put it that way. With "Chopper", I threw away a ton of **** too, but that was an easier film to cut because you've got one central character, and you threw out all the stuff that was bad and made a film out of all the good stuff left over. With this film I had to throw away stuff that was great and keep stuff I wasn't as enamored with and make it work harder.

I'll look for the other interview I read.

Carmine Falcone
04-05-2008, 04:08 AM
HAs anyone here checked out CHOPPER? Is it good? I might check it out to see if this guy Dominik is just a one-shot genius or actually talented...:p

Gotham
04-05-2008, 04:12 AM
HAs anyone here checked out CHOPPER? Is it good? I might check it out to see if this guy Dominik is just a one-shot genius or actually talented...:p

Chopper is very good. I won't elaborate thickly, but he's not a one-shot director. James was definitely an example of that.

Rez
04-05-2008, 07:33 AM
I feel like the only person alive who didn't like this film. Despite the fact that it was long and felt long, it came off as having VERY little character developement. The acting certainly was excellent, but on a script level the film fails- it's only saving grace is the subtle and powerful performances by the 2 leads that shine through pretty much every scene. Even then, that's hardly enough to save the film.

My biggest problem is probably just how it starts and ends, with absolutely no build up, basic structure, beginning, middle, or end, etc. It's especially conflicting because the film's narration points to a sort of storybook, almost bedside tale- however it's hard to make a tale interesting without a beginning or an end. Sure, the case can be made that it sort of starts with Ford's first encounter with James and goes from there, but structure wise it's a mess. It also doesn't help that the narrator is the same guy who narrates Magnolia, and that they packed more forward momentum and interest into the opening 10 minutes of the film than was accomplished in the entirety of this one.

Anyway, what am I getting at here, I don't know- as I've been up for 36 hours and am fading fast, but I definately don't plan on ever watching it again, and while the film is too pretty and the acting is too good to say that the movie sucked, I'm going to go ahead and say it anyway:

This movie sucked.

Dark Donnie
04-05-2008, 10:51 AM
HAs anyone here checked out CHOPPER? Is it good? I might check it out to see if this guy Dominik is just a one-shot genius or actually talented...:p

I think Sava saw it and liked it....

Hunter Rider
04-07-2008, 08:38 PM
Well i saw this tonight, it was easily one of the most beautifully shot movies Ive ever seen, almost like a painting. The interesting thing i found was the fact that Robert Ford, although cowardly, did come to realize his error in how he went about the killing of Jesse and his ghoulish behaviour in the aftermath, yet also the film showcases how the ppl of the time built James into some sort of heroic figure who by turns was really a ruthless killer, brutal man, prick and paranoid loon.

Brad Pitt was exceptional, yes Affleck deserves his kudos but i think the praise Pitt deserves has been lost in the love fest for Casey. Pitt's portrayal of Jesse James is raw and magnetic, this is not a good man and Pitt never shys away from showing all the sides to the legend, his dark charisma clearly a draw to those around him and perhaps a shield that has created a folk hero out of a bandit who for all purposes was a cold blooded killer.

The support is mostly just there but Sam Rockwell really delivers a fine performance wedged between the two star turns. The film is a touch on the slow side and a little one note at times, but the last 30 minutes is exceptional and the score is haunting, the film should easily have scooped best cinematography IMO.

All in all a finely crafted and interesting take on one the wests greatest legends.

8/10

War Party
04-07-2008, 09:12 PM
Nick Cave should of been nominated for score. Great music was in this film.

Dark Donnie
04-07-2008, 09:12 PM
Well i saw this tonight, it was easily one of the most beautifully shot movies Ive ever seen, almost like a painting. The interesting thing i found was the fact that Robert Ford, although cowardly, did come to realize his error in how he went about the killing of Jesse and his ghoulish behaviour in the aftermath, yet also the film showcases how the ppl of the time built James into some sort of heroic figure who by turns was really a ruthless killer, brutal man, prick and paranoid loon.

Brad Pitt was exceptional, yes Affleck deserves his kudos but i think the praise Pitt deserves has been lost in the love fest for Casey. Pitt's portrayal of Jesse James is raw and magnetic, this is not a good man and Pitt never shys away from showing all the sides to the legend, his dark charisma clearly a draw to those around him and perhaps a shield that has created a folk hero out of a bandit who for all purposes was a cold blooded killer.

The support is mostly just there but Sam Rockwell really delivers a fine performance wedged between the two star turns. The film is a touch on the slow side and a little one note at times, but the last 30 minutes is exceptional and the score is haunting, the film should easily have scooped best cinematography IMO.

All in all a finely crafted and interesting take on one the wests greatest legends.

8/10

I agree about Pitt. I thought is performance was indeed better. The one scene where he puts the knife to Robert Ford's neck:wow: Great acting by Pitt.

Cinematography was amazing. I agree it deserved an oscar

Nick Cave should of been nominated for score. Great music was in this film.
I didn't know that was him playing the guitar in the bar towards the end....

Hunter Rider
04-07-2008, 09:21 PM
Nick Cave should of been nominated for score. Great music was in this film.

Is that song that is sung near the end on the OST ?

I agree about Pitt. I thought is performance was indeed better. The one scene where he puts the knife to Robert Ford's neck:wow: Great acting by Pitt.

Cinematography was amazing. I agree it deserved an oscar



His mixture of intensity, meanness, arrogance, sadness, charisma was all evident throughout the movie, that scene in particular encompassed a lot the characteristics.

War Party
04-07-2008, 09:24 PM
Is that song that is sung near the end on the OST ?

I have no idea. Sorry.

Dark Donnie
04-07-2008, 09:25 PM
Is that song that is sung near the end on the OST ?

http://www.pitchforkmedia.com/article/record_review/48390-the-assassination-of-jesse-james-by-the-coward-robert-ford
He did more or less the entire score

His mixture of intensity, meanness, arrogance, sadness, charisma was all evident throughout the movie, that scene in particular encompassed a lot the characteristics.

"How come an off-scouring of creation like you is still sucking air when so many of mine are in coffins?' I'll say 'How'd you reach your twentieth birthday without leaking out all over your clothes?' And if I don't like his attitude, I'll slit that phildoodle so deep he'll flop on the floor like a fish."

Then he jumps in to the crazy laugh, great scene.

Sava
04-08-2008, 03:16 AM
HAs anyone here checked out CHOPPER? Is it good? I might check it out to see if this guy Dominik is just a one-shot genius or actually talented...:p

watch it and be amazed by Banas' acting :up:

Gotham
04-08-2008, 03:51 AM
Saw the film again tonight.

Pitt's just -- wow. I've never seen so in-character. Just a brilliant film.