The Shield

[hey yo its sean]

Ok, so the Season 4 spots are running on FX. They look really good. Looks like they're really promoting the fact that Glenn Close is a cast member now; hell, i'd do the same thing.

Anyway, March can't get here soon enough. I need my Shield fix!

[AshtonFoster]

I love the Shield. I've been one of the few people that have been following since it's premiere.....and I havent missed an episode since.
Season 4 cant get here soon enough, but I'm glad I have 24 and Smallville to keep me company until it does!!!

[Silver Sable]

I think The Shield is 1 of the best cop shows on tv

[Doomed_hero]

I think last season was ok, but I really enjoyed Season 4 more. It will be intresting to see what fresh blood Close brings to the cast.

[War Lord]

The channel I got it on no longer carries it so I miss it a lot.

Which characters have left since the second season?

[Keyser Soze]

The whole cast is still together. However, as you know, Captain Aceveda was getting promoted to council. He is still a character in the show, but he is no longer captain of The Barn. Season Three focused a lot on who would take his place. For most of the series, it seemed set to be Claudette, but her moral crusading damaged her standing in the eyes of the powers-that-be, who decided that Glenn Close's character would be a better choice for Captain.

I personally am a huge fan of "The Shield". It is still my all-time favourite TV show. I can just rewatch episodes over and over and they're still as good. Vic Mackey is just the greatest TV cop ever, though I think Dutch and Shane are great characters as well.

Season Three isn't coming out on DVD over here in the UK until near the end of the year, and I have no idea when Season 4 will be on TV. You Americans are so lucky!

[Lt. Figgnuts]

:) Just a few weeks until Season 3 on DVD.

As for Season 4, I can't wait. The **** really hit the fan at the end of Season 3, and from what I read, it doesn't look like fences have mended at all in the off-time.

[War Lord]

The whole cast is still together. However, as you know, Captain Aceveda was getting promoted to council. He is still a character in the show, but he is no longer captain of The Barn. Season Three focused a lot on who would take his place. For most of the series, it seemed set to be Claudette, but her moral crusading damaged her standing in the eyes of the powers-that-be, who decided that Glenn Close's character would be a better choice for Captain.

I personally am a huge fan of "The Shield". It is still my all-time favourite TV show. I can just rewatch episodes over and over and they're still as good. Vic Mackey is just the greatest TV cop ever, though I think Dutch and Shane are great characters as well.

Season Three isn't coming out on DVD over here in the UK until near the end of the year, and I have no idea when Season 4 will be on TV. You Americans are so lucky!

I probably like Shane the best, because he is such a crazy SOB.

[phantomstranger]

The best cop show on TV

[Pyro Man]

ditto cant wait till the 15th

[Dutin]

The season 3 dvd comes out the 22nd!! Can't wait to watch the dvds and get ready for March!

[Speedin Bullet]

I personally am a huge fan of "The Shield". It is still my all-time favourite TV show.

I agree 100%. Best show ever. The plotlines are amazing and the acting is phenominal.

[Dutin]

I just picked up season 3 today! it rocks but they changed the packaging to single disc slim cases!

[C. Lee]

Has anyone who has watched the DVDs seen anything new in them? When NBC released the "Kingpin" series on DVD it had incorporated into the original stuff added violence, language, and nudity....quite a surprise when Maria Conchita Alonso turned up naked in that.

[Keyser Soze]

Dutin, we've had that slimmed down packaging over here in the UK since Season 2. I hated that, since the US version of the Season 2 packaging was so cool...

[Pintsize]

I just picked up season 3 today! it rocks but they changed the packaging to single disc slim cases!

Yeah, they should have just stuck with the season 1 and 2 cases, I hate slim cases. :(

[Lt. Figgnuts]

Has anyone who has watched the DVDs seen anything new in them? When NBC released the "Kingpin" series on DVD it had incorporated into the original stuff added violence, language, and nudity....quite a surprise when Maria Conchita Alonso turned up naked in that.

Nothing was added as far as I can tell, but there were a ****LOAD of deleted scenes. There were even like...a couple of minor story arcs that were deleted.

[Venom71]

I can't wait for the new season to start later this month. The Shield is one of my favorite shows. :up:

[Elijya]

ah! just finished watching my season 3 box set. **** I love this show. it's like crack, I just can't get enough, and I can never watch just one episode. hell, I can never just watch 3 episodes, I have to keep going

I prefer watching the series in order, though, but I don't know if I';ll be able to catch it every week for season 4. it's on tuesdays at 9, right? I get off at 9, so I'd probably miss the first half of every episode each week :(

[Keyser Soze]

If yo uthink that's bad, think of poor old me in the UK. I've got to wait until September or something for Season 3 on DVD, and probably won't see Season 4 until the end of the year at the earliest!

[Speedin Bullet]

it's on tuesdays at 9, right? I get off at 9, so I'd probably miss the first half of every episode each week :(


They usually re-run the episode directly after itself. If they continue doing this I would just wait until 10 and watch it all the way through.

[Wolfwood]

I'm going to buy the boxset, I've never done that for a t.v. show before, but I've been itching to watch the Shield when I feel like it. God, can't wait to see Glenn Close on it. :up:

[Elijya]

I'm going to buy the boxset, I've never done that for a t.v. show before, but I've been itching to watch the Shield when I feel like it. God, can't wait to see Glenn Close on it. :up:


it's ****ing worth it!

I caught one season three episode last summer, and immediately bought the season 1 boxset, marathoned it in two days, went back for volume 2, again, a two day marathon. bought season three last week, it took me three days cause I'm working more now :D

watching the show without commercials makes them more immersive, anbd there's also a TON of special features

[Wolfwood]

Hahaha, I imagine it would be worth it so that I don't have to go through the cliff hanger type endings that leave you with the "Ah crap! I have to wait a week!" feeling.

Damn, I still can't get the image of Dutch strangling that cat out of my head. I really hope he doesn't turn, although it would be cool to see. The Shield is the only show that has left these stunning images in my head, the only one to ever do that to me would probably be some of the X-Files.

[Elijya]

that creeped the **** out of me. I rewound and turned the commentary on, but they didn't shed any light on it, unfortunately. that was such a dark moment

the only TV shows I own on DVD are The Shield, lots of cartoons and anime, Nip Tuck, Arrested Developement, and That 70's Show

[Wolfwood]

Oh yes, Arrested Development, I need to get that because I keep missing it. :up:

[Pintsize]

Hahaha, I imagine it would be worth it so that I don't have to go through the cliff hanger type endings that leave you with the "Ah crap! I have to wait a week!" feeling.

Damn, I still can't get the image of Dutch strangling that cat out of my head. I really hope he doesn't turn, although it would be cool to see. The Shield is the only show that has left these stunning images in my head, the only one to ever do that to me would probably be some of the X-Files.

Yeah, that really surprised me. :(

that creeped the **** out of me. I rewound and turned the commentary on, but they didn't shed any light on it, unfortunately. that was such a dark moment

I think he did it so he could try and see what the guy was trying to get at, by experiencing it himself.

[Elijya]

oh, I got that, of course. Just wanted to hear if the creatos had any further insight, but they just teased the actor playing dutch about how he had buffed up some since he was shirtless in the scene

[Venom71]

Do you all think that Glenn Close is going to add to the show or is she going to be the beginning of the end?

[Elijya]

eh, I can deal with her. not really leaning one way or another, though I know osme people are

[Lt. Figgnuts]

The way I hear it, the "big name" cast members (Glenn Close, Anthony Anderson) do a good job, but they don't steal the spotlight like you'd expect them to, so I'm not worried.

This comes from a couple credible sources from theshieldfans.com, a few people over on the forums have seen the first two episodes.

[Lt. Figgnuts]

They usually re-run the episode directly after itself. If they continue doing this I would just wait until 10 and watch it all the way through.

I just hope they stick with this tradition...I generally get off at 9 as well on weeknights, although I DO live like, two and a half minutes from my workplace.

I just hate coming in after it's started, is all.

[Elijya]

The way I hear it, the "big name" cast members (Glenn Close, Anthony Anderson) do a good job, but they don't steal the spotlight like you'd expect them to, so I'm not worried.

This comes from a couple credible sources from theshieldfans.com, a few people over on the forums have seen the first two episodes.


Anthony andersons gonna be on the shield? :confused:

I've heard nothing of this, and it's not on his imdb bio

[That-Guy]

So Anderson is still getting work after raping someone? Hollywood disgusts me.


Either way, I'm still looking forward to The Shield.

[Elijya]

those rape charges were dropped. appearently, the women had falsely accused people before

you're prejudging people based on accusations and not facts> you disgust me :p

that being said, I do think rape is a terrible crim,e but I'm also not quick to judge people on it because there are always mitigating circumstances, and most of the cases are just "he said, she said"

[That-Guy]

Really? They were dropped? Okay, sorry then. Forgive me for being a little ignorant on the subject matter.

As long as Anthony's not a rapist, I have no problem with him. He was hilarious in Malibu's Most Wanted.

[Lt. Figgnuts]

Anthony andersons gonna be on the shield? :confused:

I've heard nothing of this, and it's not on his imdb bio

Yeah. He's going to play a former gang member who's now a community leader...or something like that. Don't quote me.

Anyway, he's set to appear in all 13 episodes.

All my info comes from theshieldfans.com, so you guys can head on over there and search the forums.

[Elijya]

all 13? that'd be impressive

[Elijya]

Don't know if any of you guys realized this, but the actor who played Rondell Robinson, who was the strike teams drug dealer on the first season was Walter Jones... The Original Black Ranger from the first season of Power Rangers

[Wolfwood]

Whoa, I had no idea. Good to see he's still getting work or was...

[Elijya]

sort of :joker:

I wouldn't want his career

[Keyser Soze]

About the Glenn Close issue, from what I've heard she is excellent. The preview I read states she really adds to the dynamic of the cast, and she is going to prove her naysayers wrong.

I really can't wait for Season 4 now! The best show on TV is coming back...

[Lt. Figgnuts]

Tuesday, buddy.

As for the Black Ranger...I wouldn't say he's getting work.

He was on a kids show for maybe 4 seasons, then got written out.

He was on The Shield years later and was killed before the end of the first season...

[Elijya]

4 seasons? try 1

[Wolfwood]

It wasn't always the same black ranger? My childhood memory is slipping. :(

[Elijya]

hell no. The power rangers cast changed almost every year. The original Black, Red and Yellow rangers were switched with new cast members after the first year. it gets really complicated after that when people left, as the group was constantly changing and the show got renamed

[Lt. Figgnuts]

hell no. The power rangers cast changed almost every year. The original Black, Red and Yellow rangers were switched with new cast members after the first year. it gets really complicated after that when people left, as the group was constantly changing and the show got renamed

Was it the Black ranger that got replaced? I remembered that Red and Yellow got replaced, but I couldn't remember if it was Black or Pink that was the third one. I do know that the original Blue ranger stayed around a while...

I think it only got renamed a couple times with the "original" group - the one led by that floaty-headed Zordon fellow. After they got rid of him, it became a rotating show, with unrelated groups of Power Rangers every season. But before that, it was the same group, just rotating cast members in and out.

I remember Mighty Morphin, Ninja (but I don't think they called it Ninja Power Rangers, it was still under MM), Zeo, Turbo...

[Elijya]

the first three to be replaced were the black, red and yellow

[Keyser Soze]

Well, as you may or may not have heard, the first two episodes of "The Shield" Season 4 were leaked on the internet. My cousin downloaded them, and I got a chance to watch them. Being in the UK, I'm usually behind the US, so it feels great to be able to say I'm ahead of you guys for once. There may be some mild *SPOILERS* here, but nothing earth-shattering.

I have to say that the season gets off to a great start. Michael Chiklis is back on top kick-ass form as Vic, and is partnered up with Ronnie. The two have some great chemistry, and best of all, it means we get more Ronnie! Glenn Close makes a strong addition to the cast, and her interaction with the other characters, particularly Aceveda, is stellar.

Speaking of Aceveda, I wouldn't write him out of the show just yet. Although his reign as captain is coming to an end, they are starting to develop a very interesting story for him. But the character that impressed me most in this new season is Shane Vendrell.

Before, my favourite characters have always been Vic and Dutch, but I have a feeling that this might change in this new season. People complained that they made Shane's character too soft in Season 3. Well, rest assured, he's back to his psychotic best here. but rather than being slightly absurd like in previous seasons, he has now become a genuinely sinister figure. I look forward to seeing how he develops through the season.

[Elijya]

there's an article in this weeks Entertainment Weekly about Glenn Close joing the cast if anyone is interested

[Lt. Figgnuts]

Season premiere tomorrow, dudes!

[Pyro Man]

yeah im so excited!

[Elijya]

yeah im so excited!

I just can't fight it!

[Wolfwood]

Shane being a sinister figure? Oh hell yah. :up:

[Keyser Soze]

Wait until you watch the first episode of the new season tomorrow. You'll see what I mean...

[War Lord]

Shane being a sinister figure? Oh hell yah. :up:

Shouldn't that have been obvious by now that he's evil?

[Keyser Soze]

Well, in the first two seasons, he was a loose cannon, always getting the Strike Team into trouble. In all honesty, Shane was more of a moron than a genuine threat. In Season 3, with the arrival of a pregnant love interest, Shane was further humanised, and made into less of a wild card and more of a whiner. But in Season 4 he's really back with a bang, and the character seems to be darker than ever.

As I said, you'll see what I mean come tomorrow...

[Elijya]

you mean today

[Keyser Soze]

Yeah....sorry....

[Elijya]

you should be

[Golgo-13]

it's on now. lets se how glenn Close hangs out with the rest of the cast. I've always liked that female uniformed cop with the black partner, don't know her name but i just dig her.

[Elijya]

luckily it aired twece. The first time it ran for me, there was alot of digital distortion

Shane's a ****er

[Speedin Bullet]

luckily it aired twece. The first time it ran for me, there was alot of digital distortion

Shane's a ****er

He's trying to be the next Mackie. Bet he's dead by the end of season 5.

[Elijya]

I was thinking that too. Maybe sooner

hope lemon doesn't get written out

although, with those two sort of out of the picture, Ronnie got more screen time this episode then he ever has before, which was weird, but nice also

[Wolfwood]

Yah and it looks like Ronnie gets to shoot someone in the preview. :up:

Damn, Shane was just dripping with evilness.

[Keyser Soze]

What did I tell you about Shane becoming sinister? He's just a great character in the two episodes of Season 4 I've seen. The next episode is much better, and if you thought Shane was in dangerous territory in this episode, wait until you see next week...

I like how Vic and Ronnie are sort of partners now. They have a good working relationship. And I don't see Lem being written out. His conversation with Rawling in this episode has planted the seeds for him coming back into the fold.

[Elijya]

it's on now. lets se how glenn Close hangs out with the rest of the cast. I've always liked that female uniformed cop with the black partner, don't know her name but i just dig her.


her name is Danny (short for Danielle)

[Keyser Soze]

Yep, Danny Sofer.

[hey yo its sean]

Nice opener, but a little slow; But i realize that they're laying the groundwork for something great.

[Wolfwood]

"The dog was reaching." :D

[Lt. Figgnuts]

"I had a mouthful of dick at the time!"

It was a damn good episode. Rawling was a lot better than I thought she'd be, and I think Shane is really going to be a villain figure this season.

I do wish that Danny and Julien had gotten more than just their little "kids give cops lip" story arc, though. Hopefully we'll see more in future episodes.

[Keyser Soze]

Yeah, I Shane being this season's main antagonist. But I think this season is going to belong to Walt Goggins. In my opinion, each season has had a standout performance:

Season 1 - Dutch
Season 2 - Vic
Season 3 - Aceveda
Season 4 - Shane?

[Elijya]

Yeah, I Shane being this season's main antagonist. But I think this season is going to belong to Walt Goggins. In my opinion, each season has had a standout performance:

Season 1 - Dutch
Season 2 - Vic
Season 3 - Aceveda
Season 4 - Shane?


I don't quit see those.....


aceveda was a bigger pain in the ass in season 1&2. in three, he was always wrapped up with his rape subplot, he pretty much left mackey alone

how was ducth the antagonist in season 1, and who was Vic antagonizing in season 2?

[Keyser Soze]

No no no. You've interpreted my post completely wrong. I say that I think Shane will be the antagonist of this season. Then I start a new point and talk about how I think Walt Goggins will give this season's standout performance. I then moved on to talk about who I thought was the best character in each season.

[Elijya]

ah, ok, sorry

it's early, head not all here

[Keyser Soze]

Okay, I forgive you... :p

[That-Guy]

The premiere was kind of hum-drum, in my opinion. I'm not saying it was bad, but it certainly didn't pack the punch of previous premieres (the pilot of course, will always take the cake, but others, like the one where Armadillo dumps gasoline all over that dude and burns him alive was another one). Glenn Close did good for what they gave her, but I don't find her character particularly interesting as of yet. Anthony Anderson did well... his character was a real creep and I'm intrigued to see what will happen with him. One problem I had though, was they didn't recap anything from last season at the beginning of the show, and this episode relied so heavily on remembering stuff from last year that I was a little lost at times.

[Elijya]

yeah, I wondered where the recap was, too. I asked my dad to watch this with me, I ended up having to explain to him while the show was going whta the back history was

[Keyser Soze]

I thought it was a really good episode. Agreed, not as good as the premiere of Seasons 1 or 2, but definitely better than the Season 3 premiere. But even if you weren't blown away, trust me - the next episode is much better.

[That-Guy]

I thought it was a really good episode. Agreed, not as good as the premiere of Seasons 1 or 2, but definitely better than the Season 3 premiere. But even if you weren't blown away, trust me - the next episode is much better.

I'll hold you to that ! :D

[Keyser Soze]

I'll bet my house on you being blown away by next week's episode. Okay, not really. But I think you'll like it.

[Keyser Soze]

Hey guys! i was looking through some of my files, and I stumbled across a fanfic for "The Shield" I wrote last year. It's set around midway through Season 3, so it's a bit out of date, but would any of you be interested in reading it? It's about a child being murdered, and Vic and Dutch racing to find the killer, coming into conflict with each other in the process. Its about 9 chapters long, so I won't post it up unless I know there are people interested in reading and commenting on it.

[Venom71]

I finally got to see the season premire and I thought it was good. I think Glenn Close is really going to add to the show. Can't wait for the rest of this season. The Shield has to be one of the best shows on TV! :cool:

[Lt. Figgnuts]

yeah, I wondered where the recap was, too. I asked my dad to watch this with me, I ended up having to explain to him while the show was going whta the back history was

I was wondering about a recap too, but if you think about all the **** that went down last season, and how much last season sprung from season 2, you'd have to get into all of that and that's a loooong recap.

[Lord Nemesis]

That mouthful of dick comment was funny as hell.

[Elijya]

everyone notice the uncensored repeated use of the word s***?

[Venom71]

That mouthful of dick comment was funny as hell.
I thought the part where they put the gun in the dogs paw was really funny...I also liked that the new captain thought it was funny :up:

[AmazinUncleBen]

everyone notice the uncensored repeated use of the word s***?

On FX they say that on plenty of shows.

[Elijya]

I'd never noticed before

[Lt. Figgnuts]

Yeah, it kind of surprised me in the first season, but I've gotten used to it.

[AmazinUncleBen]

Any respect I had for Aceveda, is now gone.

[AmazinUncleBen]

Great episode, and the clips for next week look awesome, now onto Jon Stewart.

[Venom71]

Ok was the lady playingGilmore's widow Pamala Segal(Peg Bundy)?

[Lord Nemesis]

Any respect I had for Aceveda, is now gone.


Getting mouth-raped has really screwed that man up. Anyone else thinking Shane will evenetually bite off more than he can chew?

[AmazinUncleBen]

Ok was the lady playingGilmore's widow Pamala Segal(Peg Bundy)?


Yeah thats Peg.

[AmazinUncleBen]

Getting mouth-raped has really screwed that man up. Anyone else thinking Shane will evenetually bite off more than he can chew?


I understand he's screwed up, but there are other ways to deal with that, at the rate he's at he might end up raping some girl and getting brought in by Mackie (which I wouldn't mind seeing). And I agree that Shane is getting himself into some trouble, when Mackie shakes his head in disappointment at someone you know they're in for trouble.

[Golgo-13]

Any respect I had for Aceveda, is now gone.
Ditto!

[Elijya]

Any respect I had for Aceveda, is now gone.


lol

come on, dude, he got violated, it didn't exactly leave him a stable person

did you lose all respect for Dutch when he killed the cat?

[ironman1188]

Yes, Gilroy's wife was Katey Sagal. I have to admit, I loved seasons 1 & 2 of the Shield. I missed season 3 completely due tp personal reasons, but am most happy to be watching it again....and enjoying it!!!
I apologize if this has been mentioned here before, but this is something that I just can't figure out. For a gritty, realistic police drama, why do all the uniformed officers wear their badges on the wrong side of their uniforms?? A police badge is always worn over your heart.

[Elijya]

mmm, I forget the reason, but I do think I rmemeber it being explained somewhere in the special features of one of the box sets

[AmazinUncleBen]

lol

come on, dude, he got violated, it didn't exactly leave him a stable person

did you lose all respect for Dutch when he killed the cat?


Ok...I didn't like him killing the cat either, but for some reason I could always forgive Dutch moreso than any other character. I see him as a naive little kid trying to find his way in that crazy town. Aceveda was a police captain, he was so arrogant and seemingly sympathetic to the rape victim then to go and watch her tape over and over, that just made me dislike him.

[Elijya]

hey, people who've been abused have damaged psyche's. deep down, aceveda has some serious control issues going on

[Keyser Soze]

Did any of you notice the little scene between Dutch and Corrine? Didn't you think they were flirting a little bit? It's probably just a one-off moment to show how goofy Dutch is, but could it possibly be the beginning of something?

This could be potentially interesting. Wouldn't it be the ultimate payback to Vic if his wife started sleeping with Dutch, a man he has ridiculed and belittled for years? Perhaps this is how they will respark the Vic/Dutch feud...

[AmazinUncleBen]

Did any of you notice the little scene between Dutch and Corrine? Didn't you think they were flirting a little bit? It's probably just a one-off moment to show how goofy Dutch is, but could it possibly be the beginning of something?

This could be potentially interesting. Wouldn't it be the ultimate payback to Vic if his wife started sleeping with Dutch, a man he has ridiculed and belittled for years? Perhaps this is how they will respark the Vic/Dutch feud...


I saw that too! That'd be so ironic, Dutch and Vic's ex, I'd love to see that down the line.

[Elijya]

meh, I noticed it, but I don't think they're gonna go that way

[That-Guy]

I noticed it, but I think it might be nothing. There have been other times on this series where it felt like something was going to happen between two of the characters but then it just went away. I think they do that just to throw you off sometimes. Anyway... this episode was awesome, though it was probably also one of the most sexually perverse ones they've put out yet... Aceveda's little whack-off scene made me want to puke, and the part with the old guy and the young kid was pretty gross too.

[hey yo its sean]

I can't wait for Mackie to get back on the streets and pwn all the criminals again! Next week, wooo.

[Lord Nemesis]

When the hell are we gonna find out what happend to Tavon?

[Elijya]

that's a good question considering on IMDb it lists he's still on the show

[Lt. Figgnuts]

Tavon will supposedly be back towards the end of the season, I've heard.

Anyway, am I the only one who really hates the new recap music? It just...I dunno. Sucks?

[That-Guy]

Damn, how did this thread get to page 3 already? Anyway, new episode tonight, can't wait!

I haven't noticed the new recap music. I'll have to see tonight if it annoys me.

[Wolfwood]

I get a kick when movies and t.v. shows mention Chino prison, cause it's less then a mile from my house. :D

[Lt. Figgnuts]

So, what did you guys think of last night's episode?

I thought it was pretty good...especially at the end where Shane was offered the gig on the task forcce...essentially, they've rebuilt the Strike Team.

[Elijya]

I thought last night's episode was ok, too much focus on the psuedo gang war, and almost no focus on any B plots. The bit with Julien and the kid was great

[Lord Nemesis]

What the hell is with Mara? I've always thought she was trashy before but she REALLY looks bad now. Shane's new lifestyle apparently isn't as smooth as he would leave you to believe.

[hey yo its sean]

"Do you want me to lick your balls, Daddy?"

[Elijya]

what was the response tyo that supposed to be again?

[Lord Nemesis]

Wasn't it like if he told Shane to suck his dick then Shane was supposed to say, "Do you want me to lick your balls daddy?"

[hey yo its sean]

Yeah, he says something along the lines of "When i say suck my dick, you say 'Do you want me to lick your balls, Daddy?' "

[Golgo-13]

You guys love that ball licking line don't you? I thought the delivery was pretty weak but that's just me. And i think Mara's on the pipe.

[hey yo its sean]

You guys love that ball licking line don't you? I thought the delivery was pretty weak but that's just me. And i think Mara's on the pipe.

No one loves it.. No one even necessarily likes it. Where did you get that? o_O

[Orko Is King]

And I'm hungry like the wolf... :p

[Elijya]

I'm not digging the new season as much as the past ones. Too much gang related stuff, not enough other cases and personal stories

[Keyser Soze]

Really? I think that, especially after the ending of "Tar Baby", this could be shaping up to be the best season yet!

[Lt. Figgnuts]

I'm really loving this season.

After last season's fallout, the Strike Team would already be back together were it any other show.

However, The Shield isn't like that. This is realistic. The gang has broken up, and given the **** that went down between them, I doubt it will ever be the same. Shane's in for a fall, and so is Aceveda.

Plus, I am loving the new captain so far. She's a HELL of a lot cooler than Aceveda was.

[Keyser Soze]

I also have to say that Dutch is great this season. I've thought that he has never been quite as good as he was in the first season, when he was the best damn character in the show. But Season 4 seems to be bringing him back up to that peak form again...

[Lord Nemesis]

I wonder if he'll get a serial killer to tackle this season.

[DarkKnightJRK]

I've been recently watching some of the new episodes and it's preety damn good. I was most shocked by Anthony Anderson, who does a surprisingly good job in a dramatic role.

I wonder if someone could give me a short thing of what's happened so far? It doesn't need to be too specific, just the big stuff. :D

[Elijya]

from this season, or the entire series?

[Wolfwood]

Anthony Anderson scares the hell out of me now. :o

So how do you get revenge on the guy who's been giving you **** ever since you started working with him? Snag his wife. :D

[Keyser Soze]

DarkKnightJRK, go buy Seasons 1-3 of "The SHield" on DVD. Seasons 1 and 2 at least should be fairly cheap by now. Trust me, you won't regret it. Best. TV show. Ever.

[Lord Nemesis]

Dutch needs to tap that. :D

[That-Guy]

This season has been great. I was a little worried after the premiere, but it was just a lot of exposition that set up some really great stuff. Glenn Close has been great (although that's no surprise, she's a hell of an actress) and Anthony Anderson is the scariest bad guy they've had on the show since Armadillo (remember that sicko?). I like the directions they've taken each of the characters in as well... Acevada is becoming more and more disgusting with each episode, Vic is forcing himself to play it all on the right side of the law, Julien is making some rash decisions that could put him and Danny in jeopardy, and Lem looked like he wanted to kill Shane in the last episode. This is the best show on TV. Hands down.

[hey yo its sean]

Dutch needs to tap that. :D

If he does, Vic will tap him. Tripple tap, that is.. :o

[That-Guy]

If he does, Vic will tap him. Tripple tap, that is.. :o

Yeah, that'll piss Vic off hardcore. Still, I'd have to say I'd bang Corrine if I had the chance. I've wanted a piece of that ever since that one episode where she was prancing around the house in her undies. :)

[Elijya]

cute panties make almost any woman hot, but Danny's the way to go :up:

[That-Guy]

That she is... but Dutch isn't gonna be getting any of that... umm... EVER. Hell, I think even Julien has a better shot at Danni than Dutch does at this point.

[hey yo its sean]

That she is... but Dutch isn't gonna be getting any of that... umm... EVER. Hell, I think even Julien has a better shot at Danni than Dutch does at this point.

Hey, Dutch had the chance, but he refused. I guess he's not as smart as he seems. LoL.

[Keyser Soze]

I think this Dutch/Vic/Corrine story has the potential to be very interesting...

[Elijya]

Hey, Dutch had the chance, but he refused. I guess he's not as smart as he seems. LoL.


he turned her down because he was getting it on with that woman who's husband's murder she solved. He knew a bird in the hand was worth more than one in the bush

[Keyser Soze]

LOL! Elijya, you dirty so-and-so...

So, how do we imagine Dutch getting found out? Possibly Vic looks at the camera footage from Dutch's car, only to spot him getting it on with Corrine?

[Elijya]

oo, good one, I forgot vic has a camera in dutch's car

as soon as he finds out, you know vic's gonna deck him

[Pyro Man]

yeah that would be cool

[Keyser Soze]

Actually, I'd much rather see Dutch decking Vic. After all Dutch has been put through by Vic, seeing Dutch snap and just smack Vic with a right hook would be very satisfying. Of course, Vic would then get up and kill him, but oh well...

[Voyeur]

I don't know...Dutch might go mental and choke out Vic like he did that cat.

[Elijya]

Actually, I'd much rather see Dutch decking Vic. After all Dutch has been put through by Vic, seeing Dutch snap and just smack Vic with a right hook would be very satisfying. Of course, Vic would then get up and kill him, but oh well...


I think they might save that for when they want to show vic at his lowest. Getting decked by Dutch would be the last nail in his coffin

[Wolfwood]

I don't know...Dutch might go mental and choke out Vic like he did that cat.

lol :D

Vic will probably confront his ex and Dutch at the sametime and I hope Dutch knocks him on his ass. That would be one of the top Shield moments.

[Lord Nemesis]

Ah man, what if Dutch actually scores this season?

[Keyser Soze]

And with Vic's wife! Go Dutchboy!

[Lord Nemesis]

Ah man, great episode. Dutch is playing the father role in Vic's own damn house, eating his food and reading to his daughter! :eek: Talk about retribution. And this whole thing with Antwan/Shane/Vic is gonna end pretty damn ugly.

[Elijya]

Shane's gonna get shot

[Wolfwood]

I'm guessing Shane is going to tell Vic everything.

Vic was smoldering, Chiklis pulls off that "Pissed as all hell" look like no other. :up:

[hey yo its sean]

I really hope the ST someway, somehow gets back together.

[Doomed_hero]

Vic is on the edje. Everyone better stay out of his way. I think Dutch and his ex could put him over the edge.

[That-Guy]

Hey I taped the show last night and the tape cut out toward the end so I missed some stuff. Can somebody tell me what exactly Vic was doing with those two dudes he had tied up with sacks over their heads? Also, from reading the previous posts, Dutch was hanging with Vic's family?

[mdc305]

Hey I taped the show last night and the tape cut out toward the end so I missed some stuff. Can somebody tell me what exactly Vic was doing with those two dudes he had tied up with sacks over their heads? Also, from reading the previous posts, Dutch was hanging with Vic's family?

Okay Warning Spoiler




Well Vic got the arsonist back to the Russian's hideout and gagged them both he fired 2 shots into the wall the neighbor called the cops and 911 where they both were busted.

And the end Vic is upset wait no furious about Acevada and Sane he is walking the streets alone and they fade to black

The same episode airs Friday at 1100pm

[Elijya]

yeah, he'd asked corrine out for dinner in a previous episode, looks like she took him up in on it

ok, here's what happened: they were chasing a russian who had hired an arsonist. The assistant chief and anotehyr cop stepped in, because they didn't want Rawlings and Mackie tied to the bust since they were about to get alot of bad publicity for the church sting, so vic was pissed he got kicked off the case. HE took the Asst. Chief aside and said WTF. Asst. Explain to him, and said "if I were you, I would make sure everything goes exactly right for your captain, because she's the only one giving you a chance right now"

so, meanwhile, vic is helping Shane out with some cigarette smuggling ring. They have a mexican on the inside wearing a wire. Vic knows he needed to find the Russian and arsonist, but is mixed up in this and can't go touch it. So he covertly goes to the mexicans boss, and gives up the inside man on shane's bust (essentially screwing shane over, but shane wants to kill vic, so **** him) in exchange for the mexican finding out where the russia is hiding

vic finds the russian, ties the bag over his head and cuffs him, makes him tell him where the arsonist is, brings him back and does the same thing to him. then he makes an anonymous phone call to the asst. chief's cop who's running the case, who finds the guys al prepped for him to take him in. Vic guarenteed his captain looked good, but didn't let himself be seen involved in a case he was told to stay out of

clear?

[amazingfantasy15]

Great episode, Shane and Dutch are about to feel the wrath of Vic Mackey. Damn, Vic's day in this episode made Jack Bauer's days look downright cheery. He's getting screwed by officials, busts are "edited" for television (I'm betting Aceveda was actually behind the editing), his friend is being blackmailed to kill him and a coworker he hates is putting the moves on his ex-wife.

[That-Guy]

Thanks mdc and Elijya for helping me out! You guys rock.

[Jason Blood]

I pretty much just got into The Shield

I must say it's one damn good show

[hey yo its sean]

If you think these newest eps are good, buy seasons 1, 2, and 3. They'll knock you flat. 1 and 2 especially.

[Strange]

vic finds the russian, ties the bag over his head and cuffs him, makes him tell him where the arsonist is, brings him back and does the same thing to him. then he makes an anonymous phone call to the asst. chief's cop who's running the case, who finds the guys al prepped for him to take him in. Vic guarenteed his captain looked good, but didn't let himself be seen involved in a case he was told to stay out of

clear?

I thought he fired the gun and then someone else called the police and he just left the guys there cuffed?

[Elijya]

I pretty much just got into The Shield

I must say it's one damn good show


the season box sets are WORTH IT!

I had heard good things about the show, and I randomly caught one episode in the middle of season three. Went out and bught the box set that ame week, marathoned it in two days, it was so damn adictively god, went back and bought season 2 and marathoned it agian

buy the box set!!!!!

but if you don't have the cash, you may be able to rent it from a decent video place

[Keyser Soze]

I finally got to see "Hurts". Great episode! Vic hasn't been that awesome since Season 2.

[Keyser Soze]

Well, next episode is on over in the US tonight. What you guys wanting to see in this episode?

[Elijya]

I am wanting to see action much! argh! Bizarro Shield am good!

[Carter]

I have a feeling Vic is gonna kill shane by the end of the season
Either that or they reconcile and kill anthony anderson together

[Venom71]

Wow intense episode tonight :up: :up:

[Elijya]

tonight was my favorite episode from this season so far, we saw lots of **** going on

[Carter]

I cant wait until Vic bashes Dutches head in

[Elijya]

looks like the strike team is back together

let's see, We got Vic, Ronnie and Lemon. Shane's back in, but he'll rub shoulders with lemon. shan'es partner is in. Rawlings is bring in her IAD spy, and we know tavon wil be coming back later in the season...

will definitely make for some interesting dynamics....

[Elijya]

just a reminder everyone, new shield in TWO weeks. next week will be a repeat or something

[Lord Nemesis]

I seriosuly thought Vic was gonna pull the trigger. As a sidenote, I dont believe Army will survive the season and Aceveda is royally ****ed up.

[hey yo its sean]

Goddamnit.. 2 weeks.. 2 goddamn weeks... I don't know if i can hold out that long.

Intense finale tonight though. Very well-acted!

[hey yo its sean]

BTW - What was up with Dutch at the beginning of the episode? It seemed to me that he was awfully distracted at both the crime scene and when he was questioning the witness. Anyone else notice?

[Elijya]

yeah, like he was trying to piss claudette off or something. They never got into whatever it was...

[KenK]

What's the name of the officer Vic starts fingerbangin' while they're keepin' an eye on Rawlings?

[That-Guy]

Last night was one hell of a great episode. Maybe the best one this season. I really like the relationship between Vic and Rawlings. It’s cool to finally see a show where a cop and his captain get along instead of them always being at each other’s throats, and how that even will still create other conflicts. I like the way Vic is looking out for her and the way she’s trying to help him too. Also, that last scene between Vic and Shane… DAMN, was there some good acting there. I can’t wait to see the Strike Team back together in full force. Divided, nothing seems to be going right for any of them, but I think once they’re back to the solid group they used to be, then Antoine, Acevada, and everyone else giving them sh** is going to get whats coming to them.

Other stuff… man, Shane’s partner is a dumbass. If he doesn’t get killed in the next few episodes, I’ll be really surprised. Also, it was good to see Vic and Danni getting a little action, and I’m also glad Corrine isn’t such a bee-yatch anymore. Still, it’ll be very interesting when Vic finds out about her and Dutch, heh heh. Speaking of Dutch, its good to see he’s got some of his instincts back.

Also, have any of you seen a short film called “Mullitt?” It’s about this guy with a mullet who owes rent to his landlord because his roommate wasted all their cash on crack. He tries to sell some of his Spider-Man comic book collection to this dealer but the guy won’t buy them because he has a grudge against him. So the hero concocts this plan to steal his landlord’s most prized possession: a piece of Barbara Streisand's wedding cake. It’s one f**ked up, absolutely hilarious movie that I hope to find someday on DVD. Anyway, this guy Pat Healy wrote, directed, and starred in it. He was on The Shield last night. He played the guy who stole the money out of the register who Dutch and Claudette caught at the end. When I saw him, I was like “IT’S MULLITT!!!” Just a little tidbit of information for ya’ll. If any of you should happen upon this film, I highly recommend it. You’ll laugh your ass off.


And on a final note... Acevada is one f**ked up dude!!!

[Elijya]

What's the name of the officer Vic starts fingerbangin' while they're keepin' an eye on Rawlings?

Danielle 'Danny' Sofer

and that was a hot scene

[That-Guy]

Danni is looking even hotter than usual this season. :)


Also, that hooker Captian Assinvader is banging is pretty hot too.

[Elijya]

Captian Assinvader

AAAAAAAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA :joker:

[Lt. Figgnuts]

I'm really looking forward to seeing what happens with Shane now. It looks like Vic is gonna help Shane out, but what about Lem and Ronnie? They were all for taking out Shane this episode, and after Vic's speech about "stopping him" a couple episodes back, what are they gonna think?

As for Rawling moving into the neighborhood...

Glenn Close is only signed on for one season. Am I the only one thinking that she's going to meet a grisly end for deciding to stay in the hood?

[Pyro Man]

Yeah i think Glenn Close is probably a one season character it wouldnt suprise me for her to meet a grisly demise.

[That-Guy]

Yeah, I really like Glenn's character, but I can't see her being on the show for more than one season. She's such a big name that I don't think she'd commit to a really long term contract.

[Keyser Soze]

Aceveda is quite possibly the slimiest bastard on television.

Overall, a great episode. Realy tense ending, I was sure Vic was going to shoot Shane. There were actually a couple of moment where I felt the tension. This moment, of course. But also when Vic was talking to Corrine. I was sure Vic was going to walk in on Dutch.

But on the subject of this scene, does anyone else think that Dutch wil find the money? Will that put him back on Vic's trail for the Money Train case? Oh, and spekaing of Dutch, wasn't it cool to see him tackling a guy to the ground? Who knew Dutch could be badass...

[Elijya]

new episode tonight!

[AmazinUncleBen]

Tonight's episode was pretty good, I like the build up of tension, next week should be great.

[Pyro Man]

yeah next weeks epi. is gonna be 90 minutes

[Venom71]

I agree tonight's episode was good and next week's looks amazing! :cool:

[Elijya]

90 minutes? is it the season finale?

[Pyro Man]

no season finale isnt till june 14th

[Elijya]

hmm, why 90 minutes then?

[Lord Nemesis]

Antwan is gonna snap

[hey yo its sean]

hmm, why 90 minutes then?

It's possible that this is why we had to wait an extra week for a new Shield.

[KenK]

Man, things are REALLY heating up! Yeah, something's gonna go down with Antwan. I think I even saw bruh-man shed a tear in that preview! He's gonna roll on somebody!

[Elijya]

It's possible that this is why we had to wait an extra week for a new Shield.

I don't think so. We just waited an extra week, and epguides.com lists the rest of the episodes coming out regularly

http://epguides.com/Shield/

[Philip Masse]

The preview they showed about her bringing up Antone's gay son was pretty funny. The look on his face when he looked over to Vic was priceless :D

[That-Guy]

Yeah, last night was very good and I can't wait for next week. Somebody's going down...

[TheCorpulent1]

Anthony Anderson's kicking ass as Antoine. I love this season. :up:

[hey yo its sean]

I don't think so. We just waited an extra week, and epguides.com lists the rest of the episodes coming out regularly

http://epguides.com/Shield/

I don't know what any of the other future episodes have to do with The Shield skipping an extra week last week, but i just can't think of any other reason why. There wasn't any special broadcast, just Independence Day; and that runs almost every week.

[Elijya]

Yeah, last night was very good and I can't wait for next week. Somebody's going down...

doesn't somebody say this every week?

[That-Guy]

doesn't somebody say this every week?


Yes, and this week's my week, dammit! :D

[Keyser Soze]

Great episode, setting up a nice cliffhanger for next week.

Next week - 90 minute episode!

[hey yo its sean]

90 minutes of unadulterated goodness. Tonight. *dies*

[Elijya]

that was a long-ass recap. What was that, about the 17th time we've seen acevade getting mouth raped?

[That-Guy]

Great episode, especially the end. The whole "Justice League Moment" with the Strike Team was a little corny, but it worked because it was good to see them all get along again. Still, I think Army is going to (unintentionally) f**k them all over. I don't think he's smart enough to pass the polygraph. Nevertheless, they'll find a way out of it. I'm just really happy that the Strike Team is back, because they're devotion to each other is really the heart of the show.

The Acevada subplot in this episode was also very well done... it made me hate him a little bit less. I hope we see more of the blonde hooker... I actually really like her character. Plus she's a hottie. But does anyone else think she looks a LOT like Danni? Are the two actresses related or something?

[Herr Logan]

Great episode, especially the end. The whole "Justice League Moment" with the Strike Team was a little corny, but it worked because it was good to see them all get along again. Still, I think Army is going to (unintentionally) f**k them all over. I don't think he's smart enough to pass the polygraph. Nevertheless, they'll find a way out of it. I'm just really happy that the Strike Team is back, because they're devotion to each other is really the heart of the show.

The Acevada subplot in this episode was also very well done... it made me hate him a little bit less. I hope we see more of the blonde hooker... I actually really like her character. Plus she's a hottie. But does anyone else think she looks a LOT like Danni? Are the two actresses related or something?

I agree with all of that. And yeah, the hooker does look like Danni. Considering that Cassidy Mackey is played by Michael Chiklis' daughter and Corrine Mackey is played by Shawn Ryan's wife (meaning that this is a family show, even if it's not a "family show"), I'd say there's a chance that actress might be related to Catherine Dent.

Damn good episode.

:wolverine

[Lord Nemesis]

Me think Shane still aint out of the woods.

[Herr Logan]

You ever notice how they spend most of their time trying to avoid getting caught for their illegal and unethical deeds? I swear, sometimes it seems like a high school show where kids try to cover up what they did and not get caught by the principal. You have to wonder if it would really be worth the stress, being cops as dirty as they are. I can understand Mackey's motivation at this point in time, now that he knows he has one and maybe two autistic kids, but that wasn't the case at the very beginning of the season. Shane also has a kid to provide for, which was a stupid decision to make, especially with that ***** he's now married to. Why didn't it occur to Lemanski and Ronnie that there's barely anything in it for them to stay on this course but the pleasure of the company of a sociopath and a his redneck protege?

Anyway, great show. Very disturbing, very well written.

:wolverine

[War Lord]

You ever notice how they spend most of their time trying to avoid getting caught for their illegal and unethical deeds? I swear, sometimes it seems like a high school show where kids try to cover up what they did and not get caught by the principal. You have to wonder if it would really be worth the stress, being cops as dirty as they are. I can understand Mackey's motivation at this point in time, now that he knows he has one and maybe two autistic kids, but that wasn't the case at the very beginning of the season. Shane also has a kid to provide for, which was a stupid decision to make, especially with that ***** he's now married to. Why didn't it occur to Lemanski and Ronnie that there's barely anything in it for them to stay on this course but the pleasure of the company of a sociopath and a his redneck protege?

Anyway, great show. Very disturbing, very well written.

:wolverine

Unfortunantly, from a psychological standpoint, once you decide to become a dirty cop, it's very difficult to extricate yourself from the situation. If Ronnie or Lemanski decided to stop being dirty, they risk being exposed by Mackey. Perhaps if L + R found themselves in a dangerous situation and needed backup, Mackey and Shane might chose to stay in the van.

[Philip Masse]

The advantage is they also get lots and lots of money from it all. They aren't nearly as poor as they could be. Being dirty is hard, yeah, but I think it has it's perks.

[That-Guy]

Well, there are always those reasons, but I think what this episode showed was that they do what they do because they care about each other. As pissed off as Lem might get at Shane, he summed it up best in an episode last season (the one where he burned the money) where he called them the only family he has.

[Philip Masse]

He made his family poor again :o

[hey yo its sean]

Screw film school.. Being a dirty cop sounds like more fun. Who's with me?

[Philip Masse]

If I get to drive around executing people and ripping off the Armenian Mob, hey, why not?

[Elijya]

wow, things actually got so bad for the strike team they resorted to (relative) honesty :D

I wonder if Lem's still dating that girl he hooked up with in season 1? I appreciated the fact that they did show seperate love lives as sub plots for him and Dutch. Dutch's girl didn't get mentioned for two seasons, but at least they followed up with it when claudette asked him about it and he admitted they'd been broken up for a little while

[Lt. Figgnuts]

Well, there are always those reasons, but I think what this episode showed was that they do what they do because they care about each other. As pissed off as Lem might get at Shane, he summed it up best in an episode last season (the one where he burned the money) where he called them the only family he has.

I think those were actually two seperate episodes. The end of 3x14 All In was where he burned the money, and the end of 3x15 On Tilt is when he said that.

:( Sorry, my nerd is showing.

[Herr Logan]

Unfortunantly, from a psychological standpoint, once you decide to become a dirty cop, it's very difficult to extricate yourself from the situation. If Ronnie or Lemanski decided to stop being dirty, they risk being exposed by Mackey. Perhaps if L + R found themselves in a dangerous situation and needed backup, Mackey and Shane might chose to stay in the van.

This is true. They're definitely followers and relatively easy to manipulate. Shane is the only one who knows for a fact just how far Mackey will go if he thinks someone close to him is a risk to him, so I'm not sure if Ronnie and Lemansky are worried about Mackey paying them back if they simply choose to back out of his regular operations.

I learned in a law enforcement class that they classify corrupt cops (as indivuals, not in terms of the entire department) into two categories: "grass eaters" and "meat eaters." "Grass eaters" take advantage of opportunities for corruption when they arise, and don't plan their day around being a dirty cop. "Meat eaters" proactively seek out opportunities for corruption and plan their day around them. Vic Mackey is the biggest "meater eater" I can imagine actually existing in a police department in a big city like L.A.

Mackey actually convinces me that he's a man of principles and loyalty at times (and he is, in his own selfish and corrupt way). He's such a great sociopath, and Michael Chiklis is a phenomenal actor. I liked him on "The Commish," and I love him on "The Shield," even though he plays such a repulsive and hypocritical criminal. Vic is the least of what disturbs me about this show, so I'm always more at ease when he's working his sleazy magic.

:wolverine

[Lt. Figgnuts]

I believe that Vic DOES have his set of morals, and he really wants to keep the bad guys down...

...but he's willing to go as far as he needs to do so, as well as do what he has to to take care of himself and his own. I think that's what makes him an interesting character, to me.

[War Lord]

This is true. They're definitely followers and relatively easy to manipulate. Shane is the only one who knows for a fact just how far Mackey will go if he thinks someone close to him is a risk to him, so I'm not sure if Ronnie and Lemansky are worried about Mackey paying them back if they simply choose to back out of his regular operations.

I learned in a law enforcement class that they classify corrupt cops (as indivuals, not in terms of the entire department) into two categories: "grass eaters" and "meat eaters." "Grass eaters" take advantage of opportunities for corruption when they arise, and don't plan their day around being a dirty cop. "Meat eaters" proactively seek out opportunities for corruption and plan their day around them. Vic Mackey is the biggest "meater eater" I can imagine actually existing in a police department in a big city like L.A.

Mackey actually convinces me that he's a man of principles and loyalty at times (and he is, in his own selfish and corrupt way). He's such a great sociopath, and Michael Chiklis is a phenomenal actor. I liked him on "The Commish," and I love him on "The Shield," even though he plays such a repulsive and hypocritical criminal. Vic is the least of what disturbs me about this show, so I'm always more at ease when he's working his sleazy magic.

:wolverine

The Commish was a great show for the first few seasons and then it lost its creative edge.

I don't think Shane knows how far Mackey will go. He knows that Mackey will kill, but I don't think that Shane realizes that Mackey has targetted him as the ultimate fall guy once Mackey has decided to retire.

I'm really pissed that I don't get to watch this show anymore and have to remember the show from two years ago.

[Herr Logan]

The Commish was a great show for the first few seasons and then it lost its creative edge.

I don't think Shane knows how far Mackey will go. He knows that Mackey will kill, but I don't think that Shane realizes that Mackey has targetted him as the ultimate fall guy once Mackey has decided to retire.

I'm really pissed that I don't get to watch this show anymore and have to remember the show from two years ago.

Mackey has targeted Shane as the ultimate fall guy? How so?
Do you mean that Shane is supposed to inherit all of Vic's connections and ongoing criminal enterprises, and since Shane isn't as smart as Vic, he'll probably get caught once Vic is no longer holding his hand and keeping him out of trouble? I think I've seen every episode, but I might have missed a detail or two, so please elaborate.

Why don't you get to watch the show anymore?

:wolverine

[Mentok]

I am just glad its finally back on australian tv :up:

[hey yo its sean]

I don't think Shane knows how far Mackey will go. He knows that Mackey will kill, but I don't think that Shane realizes that Mackey has targetted him as the ultimate fall guy once Mackey has decided to retire.


It's a possibility, but i don't think it's correct at all; especially with the current story arch..

[Lt. Figgnuts]

Mackey has targeted Shane as the ultimate fall guy? How so?
Do you mean that Shane is supposed to inherit all of Vic's connections and ongoing criminal enterprises, and since Shane isn't as smart as Vic, he'll probably get caught once Vic is no longer holding his hand and keeping him out of trouble? I think I've seen every episode, but I might have missed a detail or two, so please elaborate.

Why don't you get to watch the show anymore?

:wolverine

I don't think that this is so much something that he thinks is being hinted at so much as something he's deduced or assumed.

Vic and Shane are best friends, through thick and thin. They may get into ****, but in the end, they're friends. Remember when Vic got shot? What was it...2x03? Partners? When Shane visited him at the hospital, in his morphine induced high, Vic was like "Dude, Shane, when we retire we're gonna play golf every day." Seems to me Vic DOES have plans for Shane...but they involve a nine iron and the green.

[oregondude]

ah! just finished watching my season 3 box set. **** I love this show. it's like crack, I just can't get enough, and I can never watch just one episode. hell, I can never just watch 3 episodes, I have to keep going

I prefer watching the series in order, though, but I don't know if I';ll be able to catch it every week for season 4. it's on tuesdays at 9, right? I get off at 9, so I'd probably miss the first half of every episode each week :(

if anyone wants when they run the marathon I can Tivo them and burn onto DVD, if anyone has missed anything. There will be a fee for my time of course but I can do that.

I have burned copies of each seasons o far, beats dropping the cash for the retail packaging

[Herr Logan]

I don't think that this is so much something that he thinks is being hinted at so much as something he's deduced or assumed.

Vic and Shane are best friends, through thick and thin. They may get into ****, but in the end, they're friends. Remember when Vic got shot? What was it...2x03? Partners? When Shane visited him at the hospital, in his morphine induced high, Vic was like "Dude, Shane, when we retire we're gonna play golf every day." Seems to me Vic DOES have plans for Shane...but they involve a nine iron and the green.

Shane's a scumbag, but I still don't want to see Vic take a nine iron to him on the green. :(

:wolverine

[War Lord]

Mackey has targeted Shane as the ultimate fall guy? How so?
Do you mean that Shane is supposed to inherit all of Vic's connections and ongoing criminal enterprises, and since Shane isn't as smart as Vic, he'll probably get caught once Vic is no longer holding his hand and keeping him out of trouble? I think I've seen every episode, but I might have missed a detail or two, so please elaborate.

Why don't you get to watch the show anymore?

:wolverine

It's not available to me on my level of cable, I'd have to upgrade a couple of levels more to get it and I don't have the cash to do that.

The last show I saw was the Aceveda was just elected councillor.

Just based on the last season that I saw. Since Shane is the craziest mofo in the show and is totally devoted to Mackey, he'd be the natural fall guy for him. Especially if Shane gets takes too many chances.

[War Lord]

Shane's a scumbag, but I still don't want to see Vic take a nine iron to him on the green. :(

:wolverine

I can see Mackey taking a nine iron to him on the green.

Across his skull.

[Elijya]

if anyone wants when they run the marathon I can Tivo them and burn onto DVD, if anyone has missed anything. There will be a fee for my time of course but I can do that.

I have burned copies of each seasons o far, beats dropping the cash for the retail packaging

NOW you tell me :mad:

[Herr Logan]

I can see Mackey taking a nine iron to him on the green.

Across his skull.

Exactly. Even though Shane is a detestable and oftentimes idiotic character, I wouldn't want to see Mackey beat him to death with a golf club. That actor is so good, I actually feel sorry for him when he gives Mackey the puppy eyes and begs for help.

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[War Lord]

Exactly. Even though Shane is a detestable and oftentimes idiotic character, I wouldn't want to see Mackey beat him to death with a golf club. That actor is so good, I actually feel sorry for him when he gives Mackey the puppy eyes and begs for help.

:wolverine

That's why I'm betting on Shane taking the fall for Mackey at some point in the show.

[oregondude]

That's why I'm betting on Shane taking the fall for Mackey at some point in the show.

Shane is a moron. That guy has caused them more trouble than he is worth. My favorite time? "I got a yammy full of Georgia joy juice that says otherwise"

[Lord Nemesis]

What if Tavon suddenly regains his full memory and just comes out of nowhere in the season finale and kills Shane? :confused:

[Philip Masse]

Then that would be awesome :confused:

[Elijya]

Tavon is supposed to come back...

[hey yo its sean]

I've heard that too.

Shane's not going anywhere for a while though, at least not if Vic has anything to say about it.

[That-Guy]

Did anybody watch last night? It was a great episode. Man, Army is a douchebag. I hope they put a bullet through his head by the end of the season.

[oregondude]

Did anybody watch last night? It was a great episode. Man, Army is a douchebag. I hope they put a bullet through his head by the end of the season.

yeah that dude, but hey him doing that is better for the strike team in the long run, he obviously could not have passed the lie detector. Armie is a wuss, and very selfish. I wonder if the rest of the team will find out Lem gave hims ome advice to bail from the team and if they do what will happen.

Next week looks to be very intense. You know something major will happen in the season finale.

[hey yo its sean]

What an episode last night. The Strike Team is BACK!

[oregondude]

What an episode last night. The Strike Team is BACK!

I still wanna see Lem kick Shane's ass!!!

[Herr Logan]

Did anybody watch last night? It was a great episode. Man, Army is a douchebag. I hope they put a bullet through his head by the end of the season.

You're not one of those morons who actually think the members of the Strike Team are the good guys, are you? God, I hope not.

Army got mixed in with criminals because he's young and stupid. Deciding to distance himself from them is more so than covering their asses. The only valid criticism against what he's doing is how it affects the department at large and more importantly, that he's covering up his own involvement in what they've been doing.

It's one thing to sympathize with fictional characters. It's another to sympathize with sociopaths and and judge a character for not sticking up for scumbags.


Anyway, last night's episode was excellent. The chemistry between the characters is getting better towards the end of the season. It's just a shame it's over in two weeks.

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[hey yo its sean]

You're not one of those morons who actually think the members of the Strike Team are the good guys, are you? God, I hope not.

I wouldn't say they're "bad" guys. They do good things, albeit, in the wrong way; but as the show's tagline states: The road to justice is twisted.

[Herr Logan]

I wouldn't say they're "bad" guys. They do good things, albeit, in the wrong way; but as the show's tagline states: The road to justice is twisted.

Vic Mackey shot another cop in the head just to keep his criminal enterprises going. Shane Vendrell is a racist half-wit who is trying to follow in his footsteps. I have no idea what's wrong with Ronnie and Lem, other than the fact that they're followers who just do what they're told most of the time.

These are bad guys. They are entertaining and interesting bad guys, but they're bad guys all the same. That's what's brilliant about the show; from the very first episode, the foremost main character did something that would forever make it impossible for him to be anything but a bad guy, and the viewers who still want to watch love him anyway. I see no problem in that premise, but I have a huge problem with the degenerate scum among the viewers who actually act as if Vic and Shane (perhaps not Lem and Ronny... yet) shouldn't be dead or in prison. Vic is a sociopath. He's got his twisted code of ethics and he's done plenty of things that are "good" in the end, but he's a sociopathic criminal nonetheless. Is he charming and charismatic? Absolutely. Most successful sociopaths in the real world are. That doesn't make what he does okay.

I don't have any love for the criminal justice system. I think it's a sick joke and a faulty crutch for society that needs to be rebuilt from the ground up. My assertion that Vic is an irredeemable villain is not based on a strict interpretation of the law. Since this is a comic book superhero site, I'll put it in terms most of us can easily understand: Vic is like Venom, but worse. Venom fights evil to make himself feel good about himself (like all true do-gooders do, as well as self-righteous hypocrites) but instantly turns into a vicious murderer if someone gets in the way of his committing acts that benefit only himself (like killing Spider-Man). Vic killed a cop who threatened his criminal career, just like Venom killed several cops in his quest to kill Spider-Man. Venom is a selfish maniac who can never accept the blame for his failures and has even killed innocent people in his vendetta against the enemy he irrationally hates, but he doesn't deliberately keep drug dealers and violent criminals in business. Vic cares about only himself, people he sees as an extension of himself (his kids and his team), people he sees as property (his wife and kids) and people he can exploit (Lem, Ronnie and countless others) as far as they're useful to him.

I know society is hopeless as far as priorities go, but I reallly hate to be reminded. That's what it is when people start believing idiotic notions like sociopathic dirty cops being the good guys.


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[Lord Nemesis]

Well said.

[hey yo its sean]

Vic Mackey shot another cop in the head just to keep his criminal enterprises going. Shane Vendrell is a racist half-wit who is trying to follow in his footsteps. I have no idea what's wrong with Ronnie and Lem, other than the fact that they're followers who just do what they're told most of the time.

These are bad guys. They are entertaining and interesting bad guys, but they're bad guys all the same. That's what's brilliant about the show; from the very first episode, the foremost main character did something that would forever make it impossible for him to be anything but a bad guy, and the viewers who still want to watch love him anyway. I see no problem in that premise, but I have a huge problem with the degenerate scum among the viewers who actually act as if Vic and Shane (perhaps not Lem and Ronny... yet) shouldn't be dead or in prison. Vic is a sociopath. He's got his twisted code of ethics and he's done plenty of things that are "good" in the end, but he's a sociopathic criminal nonetheless. Is he charming and charismatic? Absolutely. Most successful sociopaths in the real world are. That doesn't make what he does okay.

I don't have any love for the criminal justice system. I think it's a sick joke and a faulty crutch for society that needs to be rebuilt from the ground up. My assertion that Vic is an irredeemable villain is not based on a strict interpretation of the law. Since this is a comic book superhero site, I'll put it in terms most of us can easily understand: Vic is like Venom, but worse. Venom fights evil to make himself feel good about himself (like all true do-gooders do, as well as self-righteous hypocrites) but instantly turns into a vicious murderer if someone gets in the way of his committing acts that benefit only himself (like killing Spider-Man). Vic killed a cop who threatened his criminal career, just like Venom killed several cops in his quest to kill Spider-Man. Venom is a selfish maniac who can never accept the blame for his failures and has even killed innocent people in his vendetta against the enemy he irrationally hates, but he doesn't deliberately keep drug dealers and violent criminals in business. Vic cares about only himself, people he sees as an extension of himself (his kids and his team), people he sees as property (his wife and kids) and people he can exploit (Lem, Ronnie and countless others) as far as they're useful to him.

I know society is hopeless as far as priorities go, but I reallly hate to be reminded. That's what it is when people start believing idiotic notions like sociopathic dirty cops being the good guys.


:wolverine

Very eloquently stated. All your points are very valid and correct.

What's brilliant about this show is that it doesn't tell you who to like; who's "good," and who is "evil." You get a chance to see all the angles, and are able to place yourself in these situations, able to think about what you(the viewer) would do. We all know Vic was "bad" for shooting Terry in the Pilot, but we know why he did it, and we can understand it. Murdering a fellow cop, just to cover your own ass is reprehensable, and i wouldn't condone it, but i understand it.

[oregondude]

Vic Mackey shot another cop in the head just to keep his criminal enterprises going. Shane Vendrell is a racist half-wit who is trying to follow in his footsteps. I have no idea what's wrong with Ronnie and Lem, other than the fact that they're followers who just do what they're told most of the time.

These are bad guys. They are entertaining and interesting bad guys, but they're bad guys all the same. That's what's brilliant about the show; from the very first episode, the foremost main character did something that would forever make it impossible for him to be anything but a bad guy, and the viewers who still want to watch love him anyway. I see no problem in that premise, but I have a huge problem with the degenerate scum among the viewers who actually act as if Vic and Shane (perhaps not Lem and Ronny... yet) shouldn't be dead or in prison. Vic is a sociopath. He's got his twisted code of ethics and he's done plenty of things that are "good" in the end, but he's a sociopathic criminal nonetheless. Is he charming and charismatic? Absolutely. Most successful sociopaths in the real world are. That doesn't make what he does okay.

I don't have any love for the criminal justice system. I think it's a sick joke and a faulty crutch for society that needs to be rebuilt from the ground up. My assertion that Vic is an irredeemable villain is not based on a strict interpretation of the law. Since this is a comic book superhero site, I'll put it in terms most of us can easily understand: Vic is like Venom, but worse. Venom fights evil to make himself feel good about himself (like all true do-gooders do, as well as self-righteous hypocrites) but instantly turns into a vicious murderer if someone gets in the way of his committing acts that benefit only himself (like killing Spider-Man). Vic killed a cop who threatened his criminal career, just like Venom killed several cops in his quest to kill Spider-Man. Venom is a selfish maniac who can never accept the blame for his failures and has even killed innocent people in his vendetta against the enemy he irrationally hates, but he doesn't deliberately keep drug dealers and violent criminals in business. Vic cares about only himself, people he sees as an extension of himself (his kids and his team), people he sees as property (his wife and kids) and people he can exploit (Lem, Ronnie and countless others) as far as they're useful to him.

I know society is hopeless as far as priorities go, but I reallly hate to be reminded. That's what it is when people start believing idiotic notions like sociopathic dirty cops being the good guys.


:wolverine

You are taking the show too seriously Mein Friend. It is just a show, I could care less how viewers feel about Vic or what not. I am entertained by these guys and I know they are evil slugs deserving of a beat down. Lem is probably the least evil among them as he has not done the things Shane and Vic have, Lem does not know about killing Terry and those sorts. Still, he is a crooked cop on the take. He is bad. Do I care? nah it is just a TV show.

Dutch strangles a cat and had kiddy porn on the laptop. Why aren't you complaining about him? To me abusing children is the worst thing smeone could do.

Is there anyone on this show who is pure good? Claudette wanted to turn her back on the old pot grower. They all have dirty fingers it seems, to some degree anyway.

[Lt. Figgnuts]

See...I think the thing about the show is that it doesn't paint in black and white. It's all in shades of grey.

ALL of the characters have done **** that some would see as evil. Vic killed a cop. Shane went along with it. The Strike Team stole money from the mob. Dutch killed a cat. Aceveda cheated on his wife. Julien was gay (which, to some people, and Julien, is wrong).

One thing that this show is so great at is making this stuff BELIEVABLE. When we see a character do something totally nuts and bizarro - Dutch killing a cat for example - most of the time, we've been shown the character's motivations and the WHY. We can emphathize with the characters. We know what they're going through.

The only instance that I can remember this not applying is to Vic killing Terry. Why? Well, because we only got about 45 minutes of buildup before that, and none of it pointed at Vic taking Terry out.

[Lt. Figgnuts]

Dutch strangles a cat and had kiddy porn on the laptop. Why aren't you complaining about him? To me abusing children is the worst thing smeone could do.

To this, I would say that all we know is that he had a laptop with kiddy porn on it. He said that it was for a case. I believe him.

Why? Simply because having a bunch of kiddy porn on a POLICE LAPTOP is monumentally stupid, and that's something Dutch ain't.

[oregondude]

To this, I would say that all we know is that he had a laptop with kiddy porn on it. He said that it was for a case. I believe him.

Why? Simply because having a bunch of kiddy porn on a POLICE LAPTOP is monumentally stupid, and that's something Dutch ain't.

People as brilliant as him will get arrogant and make those types of mistakes. Do you also remmeber his reactions? Him turning to Danny and pleading for understanding smell of guilt to me. His expressions, everything.

[Herr Logan]

Very eloquently stated. All your points are very valid and correct.

What's brilliant about this show is that it doesn't tell you who to like; who's "good," and who is "evil." You get a chance to see all the angles, and are able to place yourself in these situations, able to think about what you(the viewer) would do. We all know Vic was "bad" for shooting Terry in the Pilot, but we know why he did it, and we can understand it. Murdering a fellow cop, just to cover your own ass is reprehensable, and i wouldn't condone it, but i understand it.

Thanks.

Yeah, I do think it's a brilliant show. It's also disturbing and addictive. I have a huge tolerance for many kinds of fictional violence and mistreatment, but extremely little for other kinds. This show really pushes the envelope with some things, but my morbid curiosity as well as tremendous respect for the show keeps me coming back. I was especially amazed when I recognized Chiklis as Commissioner Tony Scali in the previews before the show started. Scali was so decent and cuddly. Stand him up next to Vic Mackey and... God damn, Chiklis is an amazing actor.

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