The "New" Doctor Who

[lars573]

Well the TV rights to the current stuff is a wee-bit convoluted. CBC (Canadian equivalent to BBC and PBS) is a production partner along with ABC (A for Austrailia) they both furnish the BBC with a portion of the shows budget. In return they both get sole first run TV rights in their market. So CBC has sole first run TV rights in north america to the new Dr. Who stuff. Sci-fi has second run rights. Sci-fi has the first season now. But CBC won't be runing the second season till thanksgiving (argh!!! :down :( :mad: ), ours not yours. Sci-fi probably won't get the second season till like April '07 at the earliest. Sci-fi didn't get the first season till like 8 months after CBC finished the first.

[The Batman]

ohhhh. So...does Sci Fi even run reruns of the first series?

[lars573]

No.

Dr. Who 1963-1989 can only be run by PBS. When and if is up to the individual affiliates.

Dr. Who 2005-present is broadcast by Sci-fi in the US. but only after it's been run on the CBC.

But I have 0 clue when Sci-fi puts on Dr. Who '05. After all it's illegal to broadcast Sci-fi in Canada.

[Mister Sinister]

First Martha pic tomorrow.

[Mr. Thing]

http://www.bbc.co.uk/doctorwho/images/173/docmartha1.jpg

Filming begins on third series Of Doctor Who.


With Christmas special The Runaway Bride now in the can, the new series of Doctor Who starts filming this week.

Joining David Tennant is newcomer Freema Agyeman, who will play medical student Martha Jones.

Russell T Davies, writer and Executive Producer, adds: "We were delighted and honoured by the second series' success, and we can promise new thrills, new laughs and some terrifying new aliens. The Doctor and Martha are destined to meet William Shakespeare, blood sucking alien Plasmavores, The Judoon - a clan of galactic stormtroopers and a sinister intelligence at work in 1930's New York.

Returning cast members include John Barrowman who will be making an appearance in the series finale. Guest stars include Anne Reid, Roy Marsden, and Don Gilet.

[Bat Brain]

1930's New York sounds cool. Of course, anything would be better than 1930's London.

Freema Agyeman looks hot in that pic. :up:

http://www.bbc.co.uk/doctorwho/images/docmartha.jpg

[Whirlysplat]

Man....i read up on the ten doctors and all this other complex stuff...when all i really need to know thusfar is that the fourth doctor is considered the definitive one(Also the doctor i saw on i love the 70's part two), and about the current guy.

When do reruns of this show air in the states? I'm interested in the episode with some being whos obsessed with ELO music

Nah, to me the third Doctor is the definitive one, but it varies depending on who you watched most or first as a kid. I watched more Baker the 4th Doctor but I started watching early with Pertwee, so to people my age Pertwee is the Doctor for my cousins who are a little older it's Hartnell and Troughton. After Baker the show was **** though till Mr Eccleston. I am not as keen on Tennant although the series finale is a superb piece of Television, despite my criticism of most of series 2 season 2.

- Whirly

[TheCorpulent1]

I like Tennant's Doctor. I think the writing is more to blame than anything else. The episodes were mostly pretty boring last season.

Freema does look quite hot in that picture. The fact that she's a med student should be nice, too. Hopefully she won't be as clueless as Rose was most of the time.

[Whirlysplat]

I like Tennant's Doctor. I think the writing is more to blame than anything else. The episodes were mostly pretty boring last season.

Freema does look quite hot in that picture. The fact that she's a med student should be nice, too. Hopefully she won't be as clueless as Rose was most of the time.

Let's be honest Prof. Stephen Hawking should be clueless faced with Timelord Science.

- Whirly

[WallCrawl]

Let's be honest Prof. Stephen Hawking should be clueless faced with Timelord Science.

- Whirly

If you think about it, Stephen Hawking is the Australopithecus in the evolutionary chain of the Daleks.

[Lord Valumart]

sorry...i just have to do this....i don;t know why but i have to....
http://www.bbc.co.uk/doctorwho/images/docmartha.jpg

BLUE ****ING SUIT!!!!!!:eek: :eek:

[WallCrawl]

BLUE ****ING SUIT!!!!!!:eek: :eek:

I'm going to have to get used it it. I really really liked the brown suit, long coat and tan high tops.

[Lord Valumart]

I'm going to have to get used it it. I really really liked the brown suit, long coat and tan high tops.
i don;t like it....and i just bought the other one:mad: :down :(

[WallCrawl]

i don;t like it....and i just bought the other one:mad: :down :(

Bought as in, just gotten used to the now old look, or bought as in purchased that outfit for yourself.

[Lord Valumart]

Bought as in, just gotten used to the now old look, or bought as in purchased that outfit for yourself.
the latter:(

like the leather jacket:(

[WallCrawl]

the latter:(

like the leather jacket:(

Well the good Doctor sticks with blue, now your outfit will be even cooler since it's vintage. :cool:

[Lord Valumart]

Well the good Doctor sticks with blue, now your outfit will be even cooler since it's vintage. :cool:
cool:up:

[Bat Brain]

just out of curiousity LV, where did you buy the suit?

[Lord Valumart]

just out of curiousity LV, where did you buy the suit?
my parents got it....and it's just close to it...not the actual one:(

[Whirlysplat]

Oh god! :eek: Doctor Who cosplayers.

- Whirly

[WallCrawl]

Oh god! :eek: Doctor Who cosplayers.

- Whirly

I think I'd still find that less offensive than trekkie, warsie, or anime cosplayers.

[The Englishman]

Why have they changed the colour of his suit, i liked the brown. His he still going to wear the overcoat?? :confused:

[Bat Brain]

Why have they changed the colour of his suit, i liked the brown. His he still going to wear the overcoat?? :confused:
http://www.bbc.co.uk/doctorwho/gallery/doctormartha/800/docmartha2.jpg

[Mr. Thing]

Why have they changed the colour of his suit, i liked the brown. His he still going to wear the overcoat?? :confused:

I think it'll be like Pertwee's suit, changing colours, but the actual suit stays more or less the same.

[TheCorpulent1]

I think the blue suit actually works better with the trenchcoat. A little contrast is always good on a TV show.

[Under The Rose]

Somone in wardrobe ****ed up big time here, i dont like it one bit. And whats with the new girls hair, looks like a crow flew in the back of her head!

[Mr. Thing]

Somone in wardrobe ****ed up big time here, i dont like it one bit. And whats with the new girls hair, looks like a crow flew in the back of her head!

I love the new suit. It's like Pertwee who always changed his suit to different colours. Pertwee's my favourite Doctor.

And Freema's hair looks cool for someone who lives 100 years from now!

[Whirlysplat]

I love the new suit. It's like Pertwee who always changed his suit to different colours. Pertwee's my favourite Doctor.

And Freema's hair looks cool for someone who lives 100 years from now!

:up: Pertwee was the second best Doctor after Eccleston.

- Whirly

[Whirlysplat]

SCI FI Gets Who Season Two

SCI FI Channel and BBC Worldwide Americas announced a major licensing agreement for SCI FI to air the second season of the hit British SF series Doctor Who in the United States. The series will return to SCI FI on Sept. 29, kicking off with a two-hour premiere that will include the "Christmas Invasion" special in which David Tennant is introduced as the 10th Time Lord.

Billie Piper returns as the Doctor's feisty young companion, Rose Tyler, and together they will travel through time and space battling new and returning aliens and monsters.

Chris Regina, vice president of programming, SCI FI Channel, said in a statement: "Our audience has clearly embraced Doctor Who, and it has delivered a significant increase in viewers in the time period. We are looking forward to keeping the momentum going with David Tennant as the new Doctor."

Executive producer and lead writer Russell T Davies said in a separate statement: "We were delighted by the first season's success in the U.S. and can promise new thrills, new laughs, new heartbreak and some terrifying new aliens in season two."

Executive-produced by Davies and Julie Gardner, the second season of Doctor Who was the most popular program on Saturday nights when it aired on BBC One in the United Kingdom to critical acclaim.

http://www.scifi.com/scifiwire/index.php?category=2&id=37456

- Whirly

[Lord Valumart]

:up: Pertwee was the second best Doctor after Eccleston.

- Whirly
thats a thing....which Who actor had the bigger job....hartnell for being able to launch the series in the first place...troughton for taking over the laed on a popular show and keeping it a success......davison for taking over from baker who everyone loved...mcgann for trying to bring it back with the american twist...or eccleston and tennant for the same reasons as hartnell and troughton??

it's a big-ish question....

[Mr. Thing]

Troughton I'd say. The show was a major hit, and everybody loved the Doctor, then this stranger took his place. He had the biggest job because he had to make the audience like him. With Hartnell, you could either like him or not like him, but when Pat came along, everybody loved the Doctor. I mean no one had ever seen regeneration before.

[regwec]

I think the blue suit actually works better with the trenchcoat. A little contrast is always good on a TV show.
And it gives me an excuse to buy another action figure. :)

At long last, I have managed to watch the last two episodes. I thought they were right on the money- we've always wanted a Dalek/Cybermen scrap, and it delivered nicely, reflecting on the two races' psychologies (Cybermen = adopt, alter, utilise; Daleks = anhilate) nicely. It was a tear jerker at the end, and I thought the acting was generally good, including Freema's.

The show just needs a better FX budget, and episodes that can be epic without the use of more Daleks.

[The Englishman]

http://www.bbc.co.uk/doctorwho/gallery/doctormartha/800/docmartha2.jpg

I like the blue suit when the coat is on, nice contrast, and Marth is hot!!!!!!!!! Cool leather jacket.

[The Englishman]

I love the new suit. It's like Pertwee who always changed his suit to different colours. Pertwee's my favourite Doctor.

And Freema's hair looks cool for someone who lives 100 years from now!

How do you know shes from 100 years in the future, i know shes a med student but what else do you know about her??

[batman7289]

no new dr no

[Lady Stormcrow]

I love tennants new suit. Not too sure about Martha though, her outfit looks just like something Rose would wear, and Im pretty sure that those are exactly the same black trousers that Rose wore a couple of times.

But then again, I dont know what her character's like yet. I just really hope she's different from Rose. Not that I didnt like Rose, but I'd like to see something new...

[Lord Valumart]

you know....all i can think about is if she'll have a better arse then billie:(

also Harry was a cool companion:D:up:

[Lady Stormcrow]

you know....all i can think about is if she'll have a better arse then billie:(

also Harry was a cool companion:D:up:

Harry Sullivan? He was only qualified to work on sailors...

[Lord Valumart]

Harry Sullivan? He was only qualified to work on sailors...
yes, harry sullivan.....he may have only been able to work on sailors but i like him......the touches things....thats what i'd do....

[Lady Stormcrow]

yes, harry sullivan.....he may have only been able to work on sailors but i like him......the touches things....thats what i'd do....

:confused: I would ask you to clarify...but I think I dont want to know

[Lord Valumart]

:confused: I would ask you to clarify...but I think I dont want to know
it sounded so gay didn't it?:(

[Lady Stormcrow]

it sounded so gay didn't it?:(

just a tad...
hehe

[redmarvel]

I'm glad that the series isn't completely dead. The last attempt seemed to lack something though... maybe it needed more humour. SF seems to be taking itself far too seriously in T.V. series these days.

[regwec]

maybe it needed more humour.
I would argue that it needed less. Potential dramatic tension was often shattered by pop-culture references or toilet humour.

[Avalanche]

http://www.bbc.co.uk/doctorwho/gallery/doctormartha/800/docmartha2.jpg
Yay, his tie and trainers match. :p

My mother suggested I buy a blue suit for a recent interview with a law firm. Usually an eye for a fashion, I told the mother never to speak to me again.

And a black assistant. What controversy. :p She looks as though she's going to be another chav along the lines of Rose.

[Mr. Thing]

She looks as though she's going to be another chav along the lines of Rose.

:confused:

This is what a chav looks like. (http://something-beautiful.org/me/wp-content/uploads/2006/03/chav.jpg)

[Mr. Thing]

no new dr no

Wtf? :confused:

[The Amazing Lee]

:confused:

This is what a chav looks like. (http://something-beautiful.org/me/wp-content/uploads/2006/03/chav.jpg)
I think he meant in attitude. :up:

[Mr. Thing]

I think he meant in attitude. :up:

Oh ok, I guess I took "She looks" a bit too literal. :p

[regwec]

My mother suggested I buy a blue suit for a recent interview with a law firm. Usually an eye for a fashion, I told the mother never to speak to me again.

And a black assistant. What controversy. :p She looks as though she's going to be another chav along the lines of Rose.
Is this post supposed to be funny? I really can't tell.

[Avalanche]

Is this post supposed to be funny? I really can't tell.
To what section of my post are you pointing?

And yup, she's not dressed like a chav, but she has that chav look about her. In the expression and the face.

[DeFett]

http://i14.photobucket.com/albums/a301/DeFett/suitpic.jpg
I'd wear something like thart there.

[COMPO]

i love line the daleks give the cybermen:-

DALEKS: You are only good at dyING!!

[Mister Sinister]

Torchwood begins on BBC1 on the 21st October at 9PM with the second episode immediately after on BBC3, this pattern will continue throughout the showing of the series.

[Lady Stormcrow]

Ooh, I think I'll tune in if I remember, thanks for a hellovalotta notice, :p

[Lord Valumart]

WWOOOOOO!!!!!!

Torchwood:D:D:D:D
*runs to buy blank DVD's*

[Bat Brain]

BBC1? Marvellous, I thought this would be a BBC3 exclusive :yay:

[Mister Sinister]

BBC1? Marvellous, I thought this would be a BBC3 exclusive :yay:
From the start that was what it was meant to be, but it's been bumped to BBC1, possibly due to the Robin Hood theft.

[Bat Brain]

Oh yeah, I'd forgotten about that. This should be better than yet another Robin Hood rehash.

[Avalanche]

BBC1? Marvellous, I thought this would be a BBC3 exclusive :yay:
That's what I thought.

Still, BBC1 means a bigger audience.

As for the Robin Hood series. I'm looking forward to it.

[Mister Sinister]

http://img172.imageshack.us/img172/4324/robinhoodhdyy4.jpg

Absolutely, it looks really cool.

[TheCorpulent1]

I'm looking forward to Robin Hood. I just watched the Errol Flynn version again a couple of weeks ago and it got me really excited for Robin Hood again. What's this about a theft? :confused:

[regwec]

http://img172.imageshack.us/img172/4324/robinhoodhdyy4.jpg

Absolutely, it looks really cool.
He looks like a nonce. And he has that slightly inbred Celtic look. Why is that?

This could be worse even than Viggo "beardy girl" Mortensen as Strider.

[Mr. Thing]

He looks like a nonce. And he has that slightly inbred Celtic look. Why is that?

Because I don't think green tights would work for a modern day audience... :p

[Whirlysplat]

http://img172.imageshack.us/img172/4324/robinhoodhdyy4.jpg

Absolutely, it looks really cool.

Will it be better than the Michael Praed/ Ray Winston Robin of the 80's?
I doubt it.

- Whirly

[regwec]

Will the principle villain be any better than Basil Rathbone's Guy of Guisborne in the 1930's film? Impossible.

[Hollow Wood Director]

http://img172.imageshack.us/img172/4324/robinhoodhdyy4.jpg

Absolutely, it looks really cool.

Looks like a member of Oasis!

[Mister Sinister]

Looks like a member of Oasis!
Well he's going to be shaggin' this

http://newsimg.bbc.co.uk/media/images/42064000/jpg/_42064950_marian203.jpg

and fightin' this

http://newsimg.bbc.co.uk/media/images/42064000/jpg/_42064954_gisborne203.jpg

[regwec]

That bloke does in fact look eeriely like a young Basil Rathbone.

Marion looks pretty, in a blank sort of way.

Pity that Robin looke like a glue-sniffing hoodie.

Edit: his bow is incredibly anachronistic, too. It looks like a toy. http://www.bbc.co.uk/drama/robinhood/

[TheCorpulent1]

It does look pretty small. I thought Robin Hood was all about the longbow. And if he's not, he should be.

[Happenstance]

Tennant to quit 'Dr Who' for Hollywood?

David Tenant is planning to quit Dr. Who after the upcoming series, according to insiders.

The actor has signed a £1 million contract to make a third series of the show, but he will look to pursue a career in Hollywood thereafter.

The forthcoming season will be the show's fourth, after Christopher Ecclestone played the Doctor in the opening series.

A insider reportedly said: "David absolutely loves the programme but if it comes back for a fifth season bosses will have to find a new Doctor Who."

Taken From Digital Spy

[regwec]

Good.

[The Amazing Lee]

LOL

not a fan of Tennant I take it.

I dunno...I do like both New Doctor Whos....but both Doctors are astounding actors in all of their roles I have seen them in....But the writers and directors treat the doctor as a bumbling slapstick fool.

[regwec]

The Doctor needs to be a little whimsical, with a lot of gravitas. A bit like Gandalf the Grey. Tennant has been all whimsy, and I think a more mature and impressive actor would better round the character.

Three cheers for Mark Gatiss.

[Hollow Wood Director]

Tennant to quit 'Dr Who' for Hollywood?



Taken From Digital Spy


I think Digital Spy have their facts wrong.

The forthcoming season will be the third season / series since it was revived.

[The Amazing Lee]

I think Digital Spy have their facts wrong.

The forthcoming season will be the third season / series since it was revived.

They mean Tennant's third season. Which will be the fourth. :up:

[Avalanche]

And yet another Doctor Who plans to quit to follow his Hollywood dreams.

I suspect the 4th may be the last in the current run of Doctor Who.

[The Amazing Lee]

Or they'll get an unknown.

[Whirlysplat]

Looks like a member of Oasis!

That bloke does in fact look eeriely like a young Basil Rathbone.

Marion looks pretty, in a blank sort of way.

Pity that Robin looke like a glue-sniffing hoodie.

Edit: his bow is incredibly anachronistic, too. It looks like a toy. http://www.bbc.co.uk/drama/robinhood/

Bwahahahahahaha

- Whirly

[Whirlysplat]

The Doctor needs to be a little whimsical, with a lot of gravitas. A bit like Gandalf the Grey. Tennant has been all whimsy, and I think a more mature and impressive actor would better round the character.

Three cheers for Mark Gatiss.

:up:

- Whirly

[kaylee]

Awww, no David Tennant! I'm still not over the Billie Piper loss yet. (That will mean that there will have to be a new cast member for the third year in a row if Tennant leaves. New series/new doctor/new companion/new doctor, if that's how it goes.) I wish they could manage to have a tiny bit of consistency at least for maybe like two seasons.

[Mister Sinister]

It appears The Greatest Show in the Galaxy's coming out on DVD with an episode commentary on one episode recorded by fans.

[Lady Stormcrow]

Im just planning to get 'the invasion' when it comes out on dvd which looks pretty good too.

[Pioline]

I say the net Doctor should be 'Mickey Bricks' from the BBC's Hustle.

Adrian Lester is a great actor. :up:

[Mr. Thing]

It appears The Greatest Show in the Galaxy's coming out on DVD with an episode commentary on one episode recorded by fans.

Linky link link?

[GhostPoet]

I don't get this...the show is doing fantastic...so why are the doctors leaving? Won't it kind of ruin the whole dramatics if we have a new doctor every single season? :P

[Mr. Thing]

I don't get this...the show is doing fantastic...so why are the doctors leaving? Won't it kind of ruin the whole dramatics if we have a new doctor every single season? :P

Wait, wait, wait...David is at least going to do another season after S3. He said he would do at least 3.

[Mister Sinister]

Linky link link?
It originated from this thread

http://www.gallifreyone.com/forum/showthread.php?t=92139

[wobbly]

I don't get this...the show is doing fantastic...so why are the doctors leaving? Won't it kind of ruin the whole dramatics if we have a new doctor every single season? :P

I think the actors (and it's them making the choice to leave so far) have two things in mind: One is being typecast, which has happened to former doctors and has damaged their careers down the line, and two is likely to be money: If they can land hollywood roles there is more cash to be had for less work when all's said and done.

If the BBC could I'm sure they would like to wrap up the actors playing the doctor for a minimum contract of around 3 to 4 years, but it's unlikely any actors agent would agree to those kind of terms these days.

Still...at this rate the Doc is gonna get through his remaining regenerations in about 4 years or so :wow:

[GhostPoet]

I just get scared seeing all these doctors going out and that ugly rumor floating around about the Doctors kid taking his place :P

[Mister Sinister]

I just get scared seeing all these doctors going out and that ugly rumor floating around about the Doctors kid taking his place :P
Russel has gone on the record as saying he would never do that.

[Mr. Thing]

It originated from this thread

http://www.gallifreyone.com/forum/showthread.php?t=92139

Pretty vague. It's not been denied, but it's far from confirmed.

[Hollow Wood Director]

It's not the end of the character if he uses up all is his regenerations, they could always do a retro Doctor Who show starring Paul McGann the 8th Doctor.

They could also develop a plot that allows the Doctor a few more lives or unlimited lives, it doesn't have to carry on with a show about the son of the Doctor only.

[Hollow Wood Director]

In fact they could even go the Star Wars route and feature a younger version of the first Doctor William Hartnell.

[Hollow Wood Director]

A clone of the Doctor story might set the regeneration count to zero.

[The Englishman]

When does Torchwood start??

[1987olds442]

When was watching Sci-Fi Friday they had a promo that season two will start on Sept. 29th in the U.S. :)

Edit: We are so behind on the Doctor here :(

[Mr. Thing]

I read somewhere that the regeneration limit wasn't biological, it was something forced on Time-Lords by themselves to stop them all being immortal, but with the Time-Lords gone, who's to say The Doctor can't live beyond 13 lives?

[Happenstance]

Doctor Who supremo Russell T Davies has cited budgetary constraints as the real reason for the Tardis's lack of trips to alien planets.

In an interview with Doctor Who Magazine, the writer claimed that creating unearthly landscapes is "hugely expensive" and would provoke strong criticism if carried out cheaply.

"The mockery we would get walking into a forest and saying that we're on the planet Zagfon!" he explained.

When the Tardis did land on alien territory last season it coincided with fewer viewers for the two-part story. But Davies was quick to explain that moving away from Earth - or a parallel version - was not the cause.

"'The Impossible Planet' and 'The Satan Pit' got our lowest viewing figures last series, but none of us is saying that therefore people don't like alien planets; I think that was just mid-summer heat, and lack of promotion, and a natural series dip."

The multi award-winning show will return for a Christmas special, followed by the third series in Spring 2007.

Taken From Digital Spy

[Hollow Wood Director]

RTD's views on Doctor Who visiting other planets has some merit, but if he's going to make every story earth bound then I suggest he's going to have to start having the characters travel to other places rather than London and Cardiff.

[Mister Sinister]

The Impossible Planet/Satan Pit may have got the lowest figures, but it was the middle of summer and is still widely regarded to be one of the best stories of last year.

[Hollow Wood Director]

The Impossible Planet/Satan Pit may have got the lowest figures, but it was the middle of summer and is still widely regarded to be one of the best stories of last year.


Good points and I totally agree.

I think RTD is making a bad decision if he's going to shy away from going to other places in the universe.

Other planets is Doctor Who for cripes sake!:cmad:

[Whirlysplat]

Good points and I totally agree.

I think RTD is making a bad decision if he's going to shy away from going to other places in the universe.

Other planets is Doctor Who for cripes sake!:cmad:

Yup! So true!

- Whirly

[Mr. Thing]

Fair enough about the cost, though.

Anyway, extra's are on the RT site and the official site for the "Return Of The Master" boxset, which is released in January next year. It contains "The Keeper Of Traken", "Logopolis" and "Castrovalva".

I for one, can't wait for this.

[FreeRadical]

Do'h, Earthbound domestic stories, with Martha and her family.

:csad:

[JokerFish]

This is not regarding the tv show but the new Tardis playset is available at Whona for $100.....I have no idea If I should grab it.

And I heard that costco has some classic Who DVDs on sale at $9.99.....not sure though..

[DeFett]

We just had on Love & Monsters here in Australia.

Was a very strange episode.

[JokerFish]

I liked Love and Monsters.....weird in a good way.

Fear Her I hated.....so be prepared for that one....

[TheCorpulent1]

Fair enough about the cost, though.
Didn't the old Dr. Who series take the Doctor to loads of other planets for less money than the current one's been using to take him around Earth? :confused:

Anyway, Stargate and BSG both get away with making the woods of Vancouver into alien landscapes. I don't see how it's really that hard for Dr. Who to do the same. It's the aliens that create the alienness of the world, not the landscape.

[Mr. Thing]

Didn't the old Dr. Who series take the Doctor to loads of other planets for less money than the current one's been using to take him around Earth? :confused:

They filmed them in rocky quarries.

The problem is, when RTD does an alien planet, he wants an alien planet. Not some rocky quarry.

[DeFett]

I liked Love and Monsters.....weird in a good way.

Fear Her I hated.....so be prepared for that one....

I agree ...it was just on, but next week looks great.

[Whirlysplat]

They filmed them in rocky quarries.

The problem is, when RTD does an alien planet, he wants an alien planet. Not some rocky quarry.

But the Dr. Who merchandising at the moment means it's earning loads of money, if they want the franchise to survive they need to put the money up on screen for more than half the episodes. When he does an Alien Planet though the Quarry tended to look better.

- Whirly

[arachnid-guy]

I prefered Chris Ech's portrayal of The Doctor. I found him more 'believeable'. His acting was suberb. Tennant is good...but he's too...uh....'goofy'.

[Whirlysplat]

I prefered Chris Ech's portrayal of The Doctor. I found him more 'believeable'. His acting was suberb. Tennant is good...but he's too...uh....'goofy'.

Agreed Chris was a million times better.

- Whirly

[Lady Stormcrow]

I prefered Chris Ech's portrayal of The Doctor. I found him more 'believeable'. His acting was suberb. Tennant is good...but he's too...uh....'goofy'.

Yeah, for me it still seems like eccleston is 'the doctor' and tennant is 'the new guy', even though as of now, tennant has done more episodes of who.

[Lord Valumart]

incase onones said and if anyone cares...

tennant is on "who do you think you are?" tonight....

[Mr. Thing]

Does anyone want to discuss the old series? :confused:

[Lady Stormcrow]

Does anyone want to discuss the old series? :confused:

I mentioned it a couple of times in passing, but no one replied...

The problem with the old series, is that only a couple of people on the boards will have seen any episodes and so theres even less chance that they'll have seen the same episodes.

[Lord Valumart]

Does anyone want to discuss the old series? :confused:
davison is doing well for himself.....

he should comeback for a laugh:up:

[wobbly]

They filmed them in rocky quarries.

The problem is, when RTD does an alien planet, he wants an alien planet. Not some rocky quarry.

The 'in-joke' with the Doctor Who series of old was that they shot almost all their alien planet footage at the same quarry, but as Corpulent One mentioned, other successful shows get away with using earthbound lansdscapes for alien worlds just fine, it's just become one of those things (or 'conceits') that viewers can and do accept (like how all aliens seem to speak english, which I dont think has ever been explained in the Stargate series). Sometimes they put a filter effect on the footage to make it look a little unearthly (cheap, simple and effective) but mostly they just shoot the landscapes as is and get by just fine.

And regarding the lower veiwing figures for Satan Pit...apart from being the middle of summer wasn't the World Cup going on as well? (I think Englands first game was on the same day as Satan Pit?)
If so it will be interesting to see how well those episodes do in the states without those factors.

[Hollow Wood Director]

I mentioned it a couple of times in passing, but no one replied...

The problem with the old series, is that only a couple of people on the boards will have seen any episodes and so theres even less chance that they'll have seen the same episodes.


Tell me about it. I created the very first "Doctor Who" thread when the TV Forums were first created a few years ago at the Hype and NOBODY except two or three people responded. Most of the younger American posters didn't have a clue who Doctor Who was. Now that the series has finally come back this current Doctor Who thread has had some feedback.

I was always way ahead when it came to picking subject matters to discuss at the Hype, :o trouble was I had to wait several years for the things I wanted to talk about to become popular.:o

[Whirlysplat]

Tell me about it. I created the very first "Doctor Who" thread when the TV Forums were first created a few years ago at the Hype and NOBODY except two or three people responded. Most of the younger American posters didn't have a clue who Doctor Who was. Now that the series has finally come back this current Doctor Who thread has had some feedback.

I was always way ahead when it came to picking subject matters to discuss at the Hype, :o trouble was I had to wait several years for the things I wanted to talk about to become popular.:o

I can only tell you about Pertwee and Baker I stopped watching after that.
I'll come up with a post about it over the next couple of days it will require a fair bit of thought.

- Whirly

[Hollow Wood Director]

I can only tell you about Pertwee and Baker I stopped watching after that.
I'll come up with a post about it over the next couple of days it will require a fair bit of thought.

- Whirly

Cool, I look foward to reading your post. I think we must be pretty close in age as Pertwee and Baker were my Doctors too. Never really liked any of the others in the role, but I did keep on watching being a massive science fiction / Doctor Who fan.:yay:

[Mr. Thing]

So I got Mark of The Rani yesterday. I remember watching it ages ago and thinking is was a pile of crap, but rewatching it was suprising. I actually quite liked it!

I think Colin is actually underrated as a doctor.

[BloodyWolverine]

I liked the first Doctor Who in the new series . The new Doctor looks neat and all for he was in Harry Potter 4 as Barty Crouch JR. This guy looks like he could have more crazy fun with the Doctor Who character. I though liked the first one. However there have been many Doctor Who changes over the long history from the old series to the new one.

[Whirlysplat]

Cool, I look foward to reading your post. I think we must be pretty close in age as Pertwee and Baker were my Doctors too. Never really liked any of the others in the role, but I did keep on watching being a massive science fiction / Doctor Who fan.:yay:

I'm 39 now, 40 soon :(

- Whirly

[Hollow Wood Director]

I'm 39 now, 40 soon :(

- Whirly

:csad:

Very soon for me too!!!:csad:

It sucks getting old.

:csad:

[Whirlysplat]

:csad:

Very soon for me too!!!:csad:

It sucks getting old.

:csad:

It certainly does :(

- Whirly

[Lady Stormcrow]

So I got Mark of The Rani yesterday. I remember watching it ages ago and thinking is was a pile of crap, but rewatching it was suprising. I actually quite liked it!

I think Colin is actually underrated as a doctor.

For a second there I got that episode mixed up with the one where sylvester mcoy is pretending to be colin at the beginning, and then 'regenerates' into himself. The pictures Ive seen of that are quite funny.. :p

[Mister Sinister]

The Torchwood trailer's out and about.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5dUlyJraLf0

[SpideyLad]

The Torchwood trailer's out and about.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5dUlyJraLf0

Not really much, is it?:(

[Mister Sinister]

http://www.gallifreyone.com/forum/showpost.php?p=2988470&postcount=29

The Judoon.

[Lord Valumart]

http://www.gallifreyone.com/forum/showpost.php?p=2988470&postcount=29

The Judoon.
bring back the goddamn Sontarns:cmad: :cmad:

[Bastila]

The Torchwood trailer's out and about.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5dUlyJraLf0

that was it....it was rubbish just a T.

[Lady Stormcrow]

bring back the goddamn Sontarns:cmad: :cmad:

You know, if I didnt know any better....
They kinda do look like sontarans. They even have the big helmet things going on.

[Mister Sinister]

Torchwood is now being advertised on buses as 22nd October.

[Jack Phantom]

I've been a WHO fan for decades now. Living in the States where the show has been hard to come by for a while...I've really enjoyed the new series. Like everyone, there are parts I like more than others...and I won't critique in this post. I'm just greedy about information - we are a series or so behind here...with Tennant just debuting a week ago. And I HAVE to know...what happens to Rose? How does Billie leave the show? Is the character killed or what? And when does it come about?

[Lord Valumart]

I've been a WHO fan for decades now. Living in the States where the show has been hard to come by for a while...I've really enjoyed the new series. Like everyone, there are parts I like more than others...and I won't critique in this post. I'm just greedy about information - we are a series or so behind here...with Tennant just debuting a week ago. And I HAVE to know...what happens to Rose? How does Billie leave the show? Is the character killed or what? And when does it come about?
in order:
1. just wait;)
2. she said good bye, had a little party, got drunk, woke up in spain with ony her panties on, married to a french man and nolonger owning her home
3. what
4. end of series 2

hope it helps:up:

[Jack Phantom]

in order:
1. just wait;)
2. she said good bye, had a little party, got drunk, woke up in spain with ony her panties on, married to a french man and nolonger owning her home
3. what
4. end of series 2

hope it helps:up:

Helps! Thanks!:yay:

[Jack Phantom]

Wait!!! I just read that again...a FRENCHMAN?!? ...Great Heavens...Why couldn't the Daleks have just exterminated the poor girl!:wow:

:woot:

[Lord Valumart]

just wait for the Natile Portman cameo:eek:

[TheCorpulent1]

When's the next Dr. Who series starting in the UK?

[Lady Stormcrow]

When's the next Dr. Who series starting in the UK?

Next year, usually around april. Buuuut, we have the christmas one coming soon too. Though I'm a tad apprehensive, because Ive never been a fan of Catherine Tate, who'se in it....

[Avalanche]

^

I love Catherine Tate. I'm just not sure as to how well she'll fare in Doctor Who. It's a strange move.

[Lady Stormcrow]

^

I love Catherine Tate. I'm just not sure as to how well she'll fare in Doctor Who. It's a strange move.

Yeah, we should make a bet as to whether there'll be an 'am I bothered' reference...

[Lord Valumart]

Yeah, we should make a bet as to whether there'll be an 'am I bothered' reference...
two things...(sadly:()
1. it's bovverd
2. i'll take that bet!!!

[Lady Stormcrow]

two things...(sadly:()
1. it's bovverd
2. i'll take that bet!!!

1. bovverd is not a real word

2. Bring it on!!

[Lord Valumart]

1. bovverd is not a real word

2. Bring it on!!
it's so on now....your going down into a big pool of icecream......naked....maybes....

[Lady Stormcrow]

it's so on now....your going down into a big pool of icecream......naked....maybes....

I sense the word ice cream from your post....it disturbs me greatly...

:wow:

[Lord Valumart]

I sense the word ice cream from your post....it disturbs me greatly...

:wow:
you know me...
*winks a points*
chichk
:cwink:

[regwec]

If Doctor Who is going to be stuck on earth forever, then we should at least see some interesting places during interesting periods. Let's say; Germany during the Reformation, Spain during the Inquisition, England during the War of the Roses, China during the Chin expansion, the Aztec empire at its collapse...any of those would be an infinately better draw than David Tennant hanging around a chip shop in Cardiff.

[Mister Sinister]

Who are you? (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=NRjn2nOkMB0)

[ROBOCOP CPU001]

If it aint the doctor it will fail!

[SpideyLad]

Who are you? (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=NRjn2nOkMB0)

That looks rather good actually.

Cybermen by the looks of things :D

[Lady Stormcrow]

At first, it seemed really american, because of Jack's accent, and the monsters looking rather nifty! It looks quite good

[Lord Valumart]

That looks rather good actually.

Cybermen by the looks of things :D
well....more than likely they're addapting the Cyberman tech to try to cerate some sort of super soilder....

cyberman with boobies...hehe:woot:

[Bastila]

Anyone see the Touchwood trailer saw it this evening on BBC 2, looks really cool and at then end something grabbed Jack it was like an early Cyberman or something.

[Jack Phantom]

A clone of the Doctor story might set the regeneration count to zero.

That would be a great solution to a problem many see coming in continuity. It could even bridge two series or seasons with the Doctor being cloned an episode or two before a cliffhanger season/series finale - where the Doctor is killed with no time to regenerate. Then in the next episode or premiere of the next series/season, the clone is presented and the show carries on...with the added drama of the clone being able to remember everything the Doctor knew and the question of whether the clone can regenerate as the Doctor...and how many times?

Anyone have thoughts?

[batman7289]

show looks okay.
not great

[Lady Stormcrow]

That would be a great solution to a problem many see coming in continuity. It could even bridge two series or seasons with the Doctor being cloned an episode or two before a cliffhanger season/series finale - where the Doctor is killed with no time to regenerate. Then in the next episode or premiere of the next series/season, the clone is presented and the show carries on...with the added drama of the clone being able to remember everything the Doctor knew and the question of whether the clone can regenerate as the Doctor...and how many times?

Anyone have thoughts?

No, I dont think I would be happy with a clone, because it wouldn't be 'the doctor'. Sounds like a bad excuse for not liking the idea, I know :whatever:
But there'd always be the thought lingering that it wasn't the original character, just some doppleganger.

[Lord Valumart]

amazingly most fans would agree with Mrs R...
they'd be all "he's not the dr!!" and "what is this? star wars?!!:cmad:" crazy but true...sadly:(

on a semi related note...my Krillitane figure came today...i'm so happy:) but the Werewolf fig is by far the best one:D:D:word:

[Lady Stormcrow]

amazingly most fans would agree with Mrs R...
they'd be all "he's not the dr!!" and "what is this? star wars?!!:cmad:" crazy but true...sadly:(

on a semi related note...my Krillitane figure came today...i'm so happy:) but the Werewolf fig is by far the best one:D:D:word:

Ha! krillitane? I bet it doesnt beat my...erm....*searches for dr who figures*...
damn, forgot to buy any...
*quickly makes a dalek out of a cup, a yogurt pot, and two pencils*

ahahahaha, doesnt beat my dalek V.1'!
davros would be proud...

[Lord Valumart]

Ha! krillitane? I bet it doesnt beat my...erm....*searches for dr who figures*...
damn, forgot to buy any...
*quickly makes a dalek out of a cup, a yogurt pot, and two pencils*

ahahahaha, doesnt beat my dalek V.1'!
davros would be proud...
....

my R/C daleks beat that....and my Capt. Jack:woot:

[Lady Stormcrow]

....

my R/C daleks beat that....and my Capt. Jack:woot:

I take your r/c dalek and cap. jack, and raise you one K9

(Hell yeah, I have the k9. It kicks @rse)

[Lord Valumart]

I take your r/c dalek and cap. jack, and raise you one K9

(Hell yeah, I have the k9. It kicks @rse)
.....:wow: :csad: :csad: :cmad: :heart:

[Lady Stormcrow]

.....:wow: :csad: :csad: :cmad: :heart:

mwahahaha, I win.

*uses hex vision on you*

[Lord Valumart]

mwahahaha, I win.

*uses hex vision on you*
yeh...sure...

*uses manly saduction powers*
*winks and points*
chichk
;)

[Cyrusbales]

Anyone else see the 'torchwood' trailer?

[Jack Phantom]

No, I dont think I would be happy with a clone, because it wouldn't be 'the doctor'. Sounds like a bad excuse for not liking the idea, I know :whatever:
But there'd always be the thought lingering that it wasn't the original character, just some doppleganger.

Okay, then. I can see that. But how to solve the problem of the show's producers running low on the number of remaining regenerations...as we seem to be losing 'Doctors' at a rapid pace?

How about this? A star-studded, well plotted story which includes as many former Doctors as possible centered around some sort of temporal vortex (as someone suggested here earlier) - this might be brought about as a result of the Time War. Perhaps the Doctor is lured into using the Tardis in an unprecendented manner because he finds the possibility that there are some surviving Time Lords stranded in different time/space dimension.

This could all end up with some of the more devestating results of the Time War being reversed...Gallifery back into existence? Other Time Lords? The Doctor gains more regenerations or the count is simply reversed as everything around the Doctor is reversed? Perhaps The Master could be at the center of it all...creating the problem from somewhere in the past? What about that?

[Lady Stormcrow]

Okay, then. I can see that. But how to solve the problem of the show's producers running low on the number of remaining regenerations...as we seem to be losing 'Doctors' at a rapid pace?

How about this? A star-studded, well plotted story which includes as many former Doctors as possible centered around some sort of temporal vortex (as someone suggested here earlier) - this might be brought about as a result of the Time War. Perhaps the Doctor is lured into using the Tardis in an unprecendented manner because he finds the possibility that there are some surviving Time Lords stranded in different time/space dimension.

This could all end up with some of the more devestating results of the Time War being reversed...Gallifery back into existence? Other Time Lords? The Doctor gains more regenerations or the count is simply reversed as everything around the Doctor is reversed? Perhaps The Master could be at the center of it all...creating the problem from somewhere in the past? What about that?

Hmm, its a good idea, but it doesnt seem very 'russel T davis-ey', if you get my drift. Honestly, I think the time Lords are gone for good now, unfortunatly :csad:
As for how there can be more regenerations, Im sure that the doctor will somehow find an alien artifact that can help him....right in the middle of Cardiff :whatever:

[Jack Phantom]

Hmm, its a good idea, but it doesnt seem very 'russel T davis-ey', if you get my drift. Honestly, I think the time Lords are gone for good now, unfortunatly :csad:
As for how there can be more regenerations, Im sure that the doctor will somehow find an alien artifact that can help him....right in the middle of Cardiff :whatever:

I never thought of that! "The answer to all my problems was right here in this basket of chips! Fantastic!!!":woot: :oldrazz: :woot:

[Lady Stormcrow]

I never thought of that! "The answer to all my problems was right here in this basket of chips! Fantastic!!!":woot: :oldrazz: :woot:

lol! The face of boes secret is 'For more regenerations, chips is the key.....and...snape...kills.....dumbledore...'

[Cyrusbales]

You have to remember that the last incarnation of the Doctor is evil, and he was put on trial by the previous doctors in a massive episode, anyone got more details? I think any mention of the time lords somehow must encompass that, so surely they'll have to be brought back to try the doctor in the future?

[Jack Phantom]

You have to remember that the last incarnation of the Doctor is evil, and he was put on trial by the previous doctors in a massive episode, anyone got more details? I think any mention of the time lords somehow must encompass that, so surely they'll have to be brought back to try the doctor in the future?

That storyline sounds familiar, Cyrus...in what era/incarnation was that introduced - I can't recall. Good point about the Time Lords/trial and the Time Lords no longer existing...creating a seeming paradox as well!

[Cyrusbales]

Can't remember which one, it had 3 doctors in it tho, and was post tom baker

[Cyrusbales]

Can't remember which one, it had 3 doctors in it tho, and was post tom baker

[Lady Stormcrow]

Can't remember which one, it had 3 doctors in it tho, and was post tom baker

Does it have something to do with that white guardian guy (I think that was his name) that was in Logopolis, and said he was a future doctor or something, but there was an evil version of him as well...

[Jack Phantom]

Logopolis stands as one of, if not my most favorite episode!

[wobbly]

Can't remember which one, it had 3 doctors in it tho, and was post tom baker

I think that was Colin Bakers "Trial of a Timelord" storyline where a Timelord known as the 'Valeyard' was prosecuting the Doctor and was later revealed to be a possible future evil version of the Doctor (cant remember anyone but C. Baker appearing in it though, unless the others were shown in flashbacks to past series?)

[Hollow Wood Director]

I think that was Colin Bakers "Trial of a Timelord" storyline where a Timelord known as the 'Valeyard' was prosecuting the Doctor and was later revealed to be a possible future evil version of the Doctor (cant remember anyone but C. Baker appearing in it though, unless the others were shown in flashbacks to past series?)

Nope! The Three Doctors was during Jon Pertwee's reign and included the 1st Doctor William Hartnell and 2nd Doctor Patrick Troughton.

[Cyrusbales]

they'd had several episodes with crossovers, aparently, one had 5 doctors in!!! Any info on that anyone?

[Jack Phantom]

they'd had several episodes with crossovers, aparently, one had 5 doctors in!!! Any info on that anyone?

That one originally aired in the early 80's...not long after Tom Baker exited as Doctor #4. The previous Doctors were all involved in solving a mystery surrounding a riddle left by one of the first Time Lords who was believed to have discovered the secret to immortality. I believe the title was "The Five Doctors."

[Cyrusbales]

That one originally aired in the early 80's...not long after Tom Baker exited as Doctor #4. The previous Doctors were all involved in solving a mystery surrounding a riddle left by one of the first Time Lords who was believed to have discovered the secret to immortality. I believe the title was "The Five Doctors."

well duh, I should've guessed, lol

[wobbly]

Nope! The Three Doctors was during Jon Pertwee's reign and included the 1st Doctor William Hartnell and 2nd Doctor Patrick Troughton.

Yup, I know about that one (Hartnell was too ill to appear properly so he was just shown on a monitor type thing), and the later 'five Doctors' during Peter Davidson's run where they replaced the deceased Hartnell with another actor, but still didn't really give us all five Doctors as Tom Baker's brief appearance was made up from old unused footage).
There was also a 'Two Doctors' in Colin Baker's run, with Patrick Troughton reprising the role one last time.

I was responding though to the post Tom Baker comment and the reference to a future evil version of the Doctor. The only story I can think of that matches that (though without any of the other doctors appearing as best I can remember) was the Trial & Valeyard storyline.

Been a loong time since I saw that though and I've never seen it again since so I guess earlier Doctors could have been shown in that story.

[Mister Sinister]

Series 3 Episode 1 will be called "Smith and Jones"

[Superman]

Watched last night's episode and loved seeing K9 back in action. :up::woot:

[Bat Brain]

Torchwood trailer:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=wAJJu2nUAqE

Wish I had BBC3 :(

[Chuck_the_bear]

lol i know I watched the old dr.who when I was a kid and I saw K9 and felt like a child again

I like the new who
but sadly I liked the last doc
the one from 28 days later
he was BAD ASS

[Cyrusbales]

torchwood is only on BBC 3 though, when does it come to BBC2?

[Mister Sinister]

The Wednesday after.

[Chuck_the_bear]

and will it ever come to AMERICA

[TheCorpulent1]

Probably over the summer, since they're airing season 2 of Dr. Who now. My bet is it'll be substituted for Dr. Who over the summer, as the lead-in to Stargate Atlantis and whatever replaces SG-1, just like Dr. Who season 1 was the lead-in to the two Stargate shows this past summer.

[The Englishman]

Wonder how Captain Jack is going to get involved with Torchwood and how much of a spin off of Doctor Who is this, is he going to pop up at all or just mentions of him or niether of the above??

[Manic]

*looks up cast of Torchwood*

Hm? Gwen Cooper is played by the same actress who played Gwyneth in "The Unquiet Dead." What is it with these people recycling actors from minor roles to major roles? First I hear that Torchwood worker girl from "Army of Ghosts" is playing the next companion, and now that psychic girl from 100 Christmases ago is playing another Torchwood girl.

[Mister Sinister]

If you've got damn good actors, why use them only once? Also, It'll be explained why Martha and Adeola look the same.

[Manic]

If you've got damn good actors, why use them only once? Also, It'll be explained why Martha and Adeola look the same.
Well, as long as they explain it, it's cool. I just thought it strange that they'd essentially be reusing the same actress roughly 2 episodes later. I know Freema Agyeman is hot and all... actually, nevermind. I'd totally recast her just so I could see her everyday.

[Cyrusbales]

isn't torchwood set in the alternative cybermen dimension or something? I heard that somewhere....

[The Englishman]

That Gwen bird in Torchwood is quite sexy, especially when she's got her tongue down another womans throat...:woot: :up:

[Manic]

isn't torchwood set in the alternative cybermen dimension or something? I heard that somewhere....
If that was the case, wouldn't the Tylers and Mickey be main characters?

[Cyrusbales]

If that was the case, wouldn't the Tylers and Mickey be main characters?

Well they wanted to make it a little different, but still wanted the possibilty of bringing bakc rose and mickey if they wanted to, It's just something I heard, not sure about truth etc...

[The Englishman]

I thought Torchwood was destroyed in Doomsday, how come this team still exists and hows Captain Jack involved with the group, i hope these are explained in the opening episode and i hope theres some hints of the Doctor, it is a spin off after all...

[Manic]

I thought Torchwood was destroyed in Doomsday, how come this team still exists and hows Captain Jack involved with the group, i hope these are explained in the opening episode and i hope theres some hints of the Doctor, it is a spin off after all...
Well, in "Army of Ghosts" Jackie notices Torchwood Tower is in Canary Wharf in London. The Torchwood series appears to take place in Cardiff (just over the rift). So I'm assuming either the Torchwood Institute rebuilt in Wales, or they had more than one base set up in the UK.

[TheCorpulent1]

Torchwood was set up by Queen Victoria, so it's been around for over a hundred years. It's not surprising that it'd have branches set up in different cities, just like the CIA or any other major intelligence agency does. It seemed like the Canary Wharf location was their main headquarters, but after "Doomsday" they might have relocated to Cardiff.

As for the repeated use of actors in different roles, I don't have much of a problem with it, especially if it's explained. With Eve Myles, the explanation seems obvious to me: Gwen is most likely a descendent of Gwyneth.

[Lady Stormcrow]

I thought they'd decided to put Torchwood on BBC 1 as well, but it seems it'll just be a BBC 3 thing...

[TheCorpulent1]

Isn't it supposed to skew more towards an adult audience? Which, I think, makes perfect sense. It's tough to have a character as sexually charged as Jack in an all-ages show without making him seem like a parody of himself.

[MrHateYourself]

Isn't it supposed to skew more towards an adult audience? Which, I think, makes perfect sense. It's tough to have a character as sexually charged as Jack in an all-ages show without making him seem like a parody of himself.

To probably slightly offquote producer RTD, yes-"a more adult, gay friendly X Files type supernatural show!".

Just what we needed-more reject B scripts where the plot hinges on guys getting naked and leaving plot holes bigger than their.....

On the upside, if it takes off, maybe RTD will finally leave Who after the fourth "new" season and we can get a real Who fan in the offices....

[Manic]

With Eve Myles, the explanation seems obvious to me: Gwen is most likely a descendent of Gwyneth.
Personally, I think Gwen is Gwyneth... and possibly an amnesic Gelth in the driver's seat. I just have such a hard time believing Gwyneth had children at some point before her death.

[The Englishman]

Is there going to be mentions of The Doctor in this, it is a spin-off after all???

[MrHateYourself]

Is there going to be mentions of The Doctor in this, it is a spin-off after all???

From what has been said, there will be NO connection to Doctor Who beyond the Torchwood Institute and Captain Jack.

[TheCorpulent1]

Well, those are kind of huge connections to begin with. I tend to like it when spin-offs avoid the obligatory crossover episode with their parent shows, at least in the first season. Let Torchwood get established as its own entity and then interconnect the shows a bit more, if it works within the context.
To probably slightly offquote producer RTD, yes-"a more adult, gay friendly X Files type supernatural show!".

Just what we needed-more reject B scripts where the plot hinges on guys getting naked and leaving plot holes bigger than their.....

On the upside, if it takes off, maybe RTD will finally leave Who after the fourth "new" season and we can get a real Who fan in the offices....
That sounds kind of iffy. I was also disappointed when I heard it'd be based in Cardiff. As if we don't get enough of 20th-century Cardiff from every other episode of the new Dr. Who series. Oh well, at least Torchwood has some plausible reasoning to be based in 20th-century Cardiff, what with their not having a TARDIS that can jump to literally any time place or place. Maybe the producers'll get their fill of Cardiff from Torchwood and allow the Doctor to head to some places that are actually interesting, too.

[MrHateYourself]

Every other? You can count non Earth episodes on one hand....just like you can count several "human brains being used as a slave network computer". I can't wait for MORE episodes next season about that! That dead horse isn't paste yet!

[TheCorpulent1]

Hopefully they'll take the addition of Martha and the possible (hopeful?) return of Jack as a cue to try some new directions. I'm really hoping Martha's an orphan or something--whatever, so long as she doesn't have an important family life to be used as an excuse to drag the Doctor back to Cardiff every five minutes. I want to see aliens in the series about the time-traveling alien.

[Hollow Wood Director]

Hopefully they'll take the addition of Martha and the possible (hopeful?) return of Jack as a cue to try some new directions. I'm really hoping Martha's an orphan or something--whatever, so long as she doesn't have an important family life to be used as an excuse to drag the Doctor back to Cardiff every five minutes. I want to see aliens in the series about the time-traveling alien.

Not going to happen. The BBC unveiled the actors who are going to play Martha's family.

[TheCorpulent1]

Damn, I guess it's back to Cardiff every week then. :(

[Manic]

Can't they film somewhere other than Cardiff? Doesn't have to be London. There's got to be some other city in the UK that'd be cheap to shoot in. I'm from the US, and even I'm beginning to feel like I know Cardiff like that back of my hand.

And I can barely point out Wales on a map.

[TheCorpulent1]

I don't really see what the problem is, either. There are about a hundred shows filming in Vancouver simultaneously, but they all somehow manage to look unique, except in a few cases. Would it really be that hard to film in a gravel pit or a grassy field and apply some coloration and a weird sky in post to make it look like an alien planet? It's almost always the aliens that make a location look alien on TV anyway.

[Manic]

Ha! I just noticed that you have a Stargate quote in your signature.

Stargate SG-1 and Atlantis manage to show alien planets every week, and they use the same 2 patches of forrest for every planet. They also have 2 or 3 warehouses that they barely re-decorate to look like alien bases and spaceships. I think Atlantis has used 2 filming locations throughout its entire run.

[Lady Stormcrow]

Yeah, I would greatly enjoy ANYTHING that was supposed an alien planet, it doesnt have to be a whirlwind of CGI, they just need to be filmed in a quarry, or forest etc, then CGI some groovy sky in or something, like TheCorpulent said.

[Lord Valumart]

balls to you and your alien planets!!!

i wants to see Jack blow some alien brains out with a colt 45:D

[Manic]

balls to you and your alien planets!!!

i wants to see Jack blow some alien brains out with a colt 45:D
For Torchwood, all I want to see is Jack blow **** up and flirt with everything that walks, while Gwen acts all smart and hot and speak with a European accent that will inevitably turn me on.

For Doctor Who, I expect all that and alien planets. If they want to go in the past, by all means, stay on Earth. But I want to see some place in the future other than space stations and an Earth where the technology is "wrong."

[wobbly]

balls to you and your alien planets!!!

i wants to see Jack blow some alien brains out with a colt 45:D


You know, take the 'brains out with a colt 45' from that sentence and we'd have another kinda show entirely... :cwink: :woot:

[Lord Valumart]

once again i fail at being funny...

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[Lord Valumart]

You know, take the 'brains out with a colt 45' from that sentence and we'd have another kinda show entirely... :cwink: :woot:
i'm not against some hot alien lesbian lovin'....

i'm against everything else..lol

[The Englishman]

You know, take the 'brains out with a colt 45' from that sentence and we'd have another kinda show entirely... :cwink: :woot:

Nice. Yes to more alien planets, Red Dwarf and that new sci-comedy from last year Hyperdrive had some realistic alian worlds and that would have been on half the budget at least then what is being spent on Dr Who.. Russel T Davies talks Bollocks!!!!!!!! And Balls to Martha's family as well, i got past caring about Roses family after the first Ecalston episode!! :cmad:

[regwec]

I think the truth of it is that Davies is really interested in making shows about gay people in provincial British cities, rather than sci fi epics that explore time and space. Torchwood will be Queer as Folk, with the occassional Auton.

[Avalanche]

Well, Captain Jack is from a world were being bisexual is pretty much the norm. I wouldn't be surprised to see that explored a little bit.

[TheCorpulent1]

You mean Captain Jack is from a world where being pansexual is the norm. At least, that's how someone on the Dr. Who Confidential ep that dealt with Torchwood explained it. If it has a pulse and a sentient mind, Jack sees it as a potential companion because, apparently, there are absolutely no sexual taboos wherever or whenever he comes from.

[Mister Sinister]

You mean Captain Jack is from a world where being pansexual is the norm. At least, that's how someone on the Dr. Who Confidential ep that dealt with Torchwood explained it. If it has a pulse and a sentient mind, Jack sees it as a potential companion because, apparently, there are absolutely no sexual taboos wherever or whenever he comes from.
In Episode 2, Owen takes an alien aphrodisiac spray to a bar and uses it on some woman who then proceeds to grab and snog him, until her boyfriend stops him. Owen then accidentally sprays the guy who then snogs him, they then get into a taxi, for mad alien inspired love.

Also in that episode, after a man is killed after having sex with a sex obsessed alien, Jack utters what could be the corniest line ever "He just came and went".

[regwec]

Is that a wind up? If not, then it sounds unbelievably ****e.

[TheCorpulent1]

Haha, that sounds lame.

[Mister Sinister]

Is that a wind up? If not, then it sounds unbelievably ****e.
Nope, totally legit.

[The Englishman]

I have a feeling that this show is going to be really ****e!!!!

Just looked in the radio times and it shows a picture of the Torchwood base and explanations as to what things are, and it points out a Hand in a jar which happens to be The Doctors, the one Tennants Doctor lost in The Christmas Invasion..... i think thats pretty cool!

[Lady Stormcrow]

I have a feeling that this show is going to be really ****e!!!!

Just looked in the radio times and it shows a picture of the Torchwood base and explanations as to what things are, and it points out a Hand in a jar which happens to be The Doctors, the one Tennants Doctor lost in The Christmas Invasion..... i think thats pretty cool!

I would've expected the hand to be a bit..liquified? It did fall a veeery long way

[wobbly]

I would've expected the hand to be a bit..liquified? It did fall a veeery long way

Nah...a hand falling on it's own wouldn't be very heavy so even hitting concrete it would only be beat up a bit.
Besides, it could have landed on some grass or something (quite a few parks in London)

Anyways...So Torchwood have the Doctors hand, eh?...Anyone else foresee a cloning experiment of some kind coming up in the future?

[TheCorpulent1]

The bones are probably broken, but it ought to be fine otherwise. Plus, even if it did splat, they'd still be able to salvage some DNA.

[Lady Stormcrow]

Yeah, I guess it wouldn't hit the ground with the same amount of gusto that a person would.

Oooh, yes, I was thinking of the cloning thing. Or, when the doctor had enough energy to replace his own hand, what if the hand had enough energy to build a new doctor...

:o thus creating a replacement once the 13th doctor died! I wouldn't like that idea, I hope they dont clone the doc.

[The Englishman]

So who watched Torchwood then??

[Lord Valumart]

TORCHWOOD ROCKS!!!!

it's sad that i prefer a spin-off to the proper thing:( but Jack is just so cool:D how can you not like Jack? i'm so going as him for the halloween thingy:D

[Whirlysplat]

Torchwood was far better than I expected and far better so far than the last season of Dr. Who. So..... Captain Jack is now Wolverine.

- Whirly

[Lady Stormcrow]

Torchwood was far better than I expected and far better so far than the last season of Dr. Who. So..... Captain Jack is now Wolverine.

- Whirly

:wow: I can't wait to see it on wednesday now. p'haps it shall make up for the last series of dr who, which was a tad dissapointing

[The Englishman]

I liked the references to Doctor Who, Jack really cares about The Doctors hand.I Can't really see The Doctor appearing in this series but they can keep the odd reference here and there, but with hearing that Captain Jack will be in the next season of Doctor Who i hope he brings along this Torchwood team too.
I just felt the swearing felt forced, like we can so we will, when they don't really need to, but i like the Shagging to death scenes. :woot:

[OtepApe]

I watched the first ep today, I have the second one recorded on Sky+ but haven't got around to watching it yet.

I actually really enjoyed it. First off, Captain Jack is ace. But I liked how they went with us discoverings thinga about Torchwood as that Welsh lass did. It opened things up for us. The characters seem to be pretty interesting and can hold the series.

A few things that did irk me a little. The swearing wasn't really needed I felt. They probably included it to make the series more adult then Who, but I felt it didn't really need it. The other thing that irked me, was the identity of the killer. It just seemed a bit of a cop out and was a twist for the sake of a twist.

Still, an enjoyable first ep.

[The Englishman]

I watched the first ep today, I have the second one recorded on Sky+ but haven't got around to watching it yet.

I actually really enjoyed it. First off, Captain Jack is ace. But I liked how they went with us discoverings thinga about Torchwood as that Welsh lass did. It opened things up for us. The characters seem to be pretty interesting and can hold the series.

A few things that did irk me a little. The swearing wasn't really needed I felt. They probably included it to make the series more adult then Who, but I felt it didn't really need it. The other thing that irked me, was the identity of the killer. It just seemed a bit of a cop out and was a twist for the sake of a twist.

Still, an enjoyable first ep.

I have to agree with everything you said....

Question: The actress who plays Toshiko Sato is the same actress who appeared in Doctor Who's Aliens of London but was it the same character of Toshiko Sato???

[Manic]

I have to agree with everything you said....

Question: The actress who plays Toshiko Sato is the same actress who appeared in Doctor Who's Aliens of London but was it the same character of Toshiko Sato???
According to IMDB, she was Dr. Sato on Doctor Who. So I guess they're the same character.

[The Englishman]

If thats so was'nt she a Doctor in Aliens of London??

[Manic]

If thats so was'nt she a Doctor in Aliens of London??
Good point. How'd she go from a medical doctor to a "computer genius", as Jack put it? Unless she's an expert in more than one field.

[Kevin Roegele]

Who says we Brits aren't liberated? We have Torchwood, a sci-fi action show that's producer and star are both homosexuals.

[Manic]

Who says we Brits aren't liberated? We have Torchwood, a sci-fi action show that's producer and star are both homosexuals.
"You people and your quaint little categories."

[The Englishman]

Good point. How'd she go from a medical doctor to a "computer genius", as Jack put it? Unless she's an expert in more than one field.

It just seems to me that they have got the roles of Dr Owen Harper and Toshiko Sato mixed up. To me Owen looks more like a computer expert then a Dr and vica versa Toshiko... plus she was a Dr in Aliens of London doing an Autopsy on the "Alien Pig".

[Hollow Wood Director]

So can anybody here give me the low down on Torchwood? I see some posters here prefered it to the second series of Doctor Who, but some of my friends and family have told me it's a little bit too Welsh, meaning that it may not traslate well when sold to other countries because of the thick Welsh accents ( apart form Captain Jack ) Plenty of people I know in the states didn't get or understand the very British references in the first series of Doctor Who and they had a hard time trying to understand Chris Eccelestons accent. I would imagine the Welsh one will cause a few concerns too if it's as Welshcentric as I've been told.


Also as much as I appreciate the fact that both shows are made in Wales with Welsh production crews etc, if the 3rd series of Doctor Who features a Welsh city or town don't you think they're in danger of pushing the Welsh agenda a little too far now that they have a show set in Cardiff as well?