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Bastila
12-25-2006, 05:14 PM
Chris E and Rose!!! love that shot, see I prefered him lol.
Also the Jack one lol, his great lol.

04nbod
12-25-2006, 05:17 PM
THANK YOU!!:woot:

Bastila
12-25-2006, 05:20 PM
THANK YOU!!:woot:

its good, I love that shot, and that epsiode it made me sad as well lol.
But it was cool and the line ''you look like you need a doctor''!! something like that, it was so nice.

04nbod
12-25-2006, 05:24 PM
the parting of the ways was wonderful and a little better than doomsday because there was hope at the end- eccleston was gone but the doctor was still around. with piper going i think they did the best they could do but i anticipate her return.
and captain jack is confirmed to be in the season 3 finale.

Bastila
12-25-2006, 05:28 PM
the parting of the ways was wonderful and a little better than doomsday because there was hope at the end- eccleston was gone but the doctor was still around. with piper going i think they did the best they could do but i anticipate her return.
and captain jack is confirmed to be in the season 3 finale.

Yeah I love Jack!! Torchwood is great, and I would like to see maybe Rose come back one day, and also the Doc meeting Jack will be good as the Doc looks different and well Rose it gone.

04nbod
12-25-2006, 05:30 PM
maybe he will think rose has changed to martha which could be quite funny. and of course he has to kiss tennant-its a rite of passage now

black_dust
12-25-2006, 07:27 PM
I liked the Crimbo ep, Even tho the bride was shouting ALL the time and it got on my tits after awhile :D

Lord Valumart
12-26-2006, 10:07 AM
goos ep, not as god as last years, spider-lass did sod all....still...tate has magificent breasts hasn't sh.....wait....you guys were on the hype xmas day.....did you not have toys to play with:huh:

04nbod
12-26-2006, 02:05 PM
im too old for toys:( i liked the new episode. its strange that you consider last year better when the doctor was hardly in it- it was a rose episode. i like the darkness now that rose is gone- and that flashback. :(

Lord Valumart
12-26-2006, 02:08 PM
im too old for toys:( i liked the new episode. its strange that you consider last year better when the doctor was hardly in it- it was a rose episode. i like the darkness now that rose is gone- and that flashback. :(
your never to old for toys:cwink:

last year had better monsters....the best bit was the motorway chase but that had been leaked so it wasn;t really that much of a surprise:csad:

04nbod
12-26-2006, 02:17 PM
i felt last year was way too political but this year they had an explanation that was far too long-winded and slowed it down. how did you feel about the preview of the next series? have you listened to the BBC commentary?

regwec
12-27-2006, 11:29 AM
Pretty boring episode. The arachnid Empress was quite good, but her whole race were a poor man's copy of the Spider Guild from "Green Lantern".

Lord Valumart
12-27-2006, 12:39 PM
i felt last year was way too political but this year they had an explanation that was far too long-winded and slowed it down. 1. how did you feel about the preview of the next series? 2. have you listened to the BBC commentary?
1. looks good, but then again so did the one for series 2:csad:
2. no, should i have?

04nbod
12-28-2006, 09:18 AM
1. looks good, but then again so did the one for series 2:csad:
2. no, should i have?

1.i liked series 2 but series three doesn't look great
2.its up to you- tennant does say the last line of the episode is very important for next series and goes through the trailer saying what episodes they are from.
3. tennant is leaving midway through series 4 :csad::csad:- there are no smilies in the world to show the extent of my sadness. no rose, no tennant, no eccleston- it seems like this series is going down the pan- hopefully they will get someone with longevity this time.- and i think rose's will die with this doctor- i doubt they will bring her back with the next one.:csad::csad::csad::o

Mister Sinister
12-28-2006, 11:11 AM
3. tennant is leaving midway through series 4 :csad::csad:- there are no smilies in the world to show the extent of my sadness. no rose, no tennant, no eccleston- it seems like this series is going down the pan- hopefully they will get someone with longevity this time.- and i think rose's will die with this doctor- i doubt they will bring her back with the next one.:csad::csad::csad::o
Actually that's a load of balls as the Beeb themselves have confirmed.

SpideyLad
12-28-2006, 11:45 AM
3. tennant is leaving midway through series 4 :csad::csad:- there are no smilies in the world to show the extent of my sadness. no rose, no tennant, no eccleston- it seems like this series is going down the pan- hopefully they will get someone with longevity this time.- and i think rose's will die with this doctor- i doubt they will bring her back with the next one.:csad::csad::csad::o

This had better not be true.........:(

Mister Sinister
12-28-2006, 11:50 AM
It's not

Lord Valumart
12-28-2006, 12:13 PM
yey....slightly more tennant!!

04nbod
12-28-2006, 01:52 PM
just cause the beeb denies it does not mean its not true- remember the piper lies.

Lord Valumart
12-28-2006, 02:01 PM
i remember no lies....just mis quoted information:D

regwec
12-28-2006, 02:06 PM
I hope Tennant is going. He plays The Doctor as a sort of Sci Fi Puck, which is interesting in its own right, but just doesn't offer me a credible dramatic axis on which the adventures can turn. I want an older Doctor with more gravitas, and more genuine eccentricity. I could cry "Mark Gatiss" until I am hoarse.

Avalanche
12-28-2006, 03:31 PM
^

I'd agree with that. I can't tell if it is the season 2 writing, or Tennant who is to blame however. The Lady in the Fireplace episode showed he could do depth and emotion.

Lord Valumart
12-28-2006, 03:51 PM
i know it's not really "who" but anyone pick up the torchwood dvd?

Happenstance
12-28-2006, 03:53 PM
I thought about it but I dont like it when seasons are split on dvd boxsets so im waiting for the full one. Just hope its cheaper than the Doctor Who ones as they are a rip off.

Lord Valumart
12-28-2006, 03:59 PM
i got it cause it has special features on it...much better than the single who volumes....plus, you can never have to much Capt. Jack:up::woot:

04nbod
12-28-2006, 04:47 PM
amen lv! bring on the season 3 finale- he's contracted for the final 3 episodes-
3!

Cyrusbales
12-28-2006, 05:26 PM
watched the xmas episode a few days ago, was OK, rather cliche'd badguy tho, and i hate catherine tate

Dope Nose
12-28-2006, 05:58 PM
goos ep, not as god as last years, spider-lass did sod all....still...tate has magificent breasts

ain't that the truth. hypothetically speaking if the rumors of Tennant leaving were true does anyone have a specific actor in mind to take over the role?

also, I just recently discovered after reading the Wiki entry that Torchwood is an anagram of Doctor Who. I only mention it 'cause I thought it was neat, but I'm sure everyone here was already aware of it.

Manic
12-28-2006, 06:07 PM
Now that I've finally... acquired... the episode, allow me to weigh in.

The one flaw I found in last year's Christmas episode was that the "pilot fish" in Santa outfits had absolutely nothing to do with the overall story. They showed up, attacked the Doctor & Rose, and then nothing. It even seemed as though the blood-controlling aliens who invaded weren't even aware of the Doctor or the TARDIS until he popped up in his pajamas and stopped them.

One year later, and we have our answer. I thought the pilot fish were a precursor to last year's Christmas Invasion. Totally wrong, there. Nice to see that they're not only back, but serve a purpose.

Catherine Tate. Saw an episode of her show on the BBC America. Not a fan. She was annoying at the beginning of this episode, but I had warmed up to her by the end. I'm still happy to know she won't be regular, but I wouldn't object to a cameo somewhere down the line.

I'm surprised nobody questioned the Doctor about his name. I understand them not wanting to do it in every episode, but I find it a little strange when people automatically accept the Doctor simply calling himself "the Doctor" without a surname.

I'm all for interracial relationships ("Let's all screw until we're the same color" is my motto), but I'm honestly shocked at all the white/black couples I see in British programming. It's great, but still overall surprising. Our movies still treat it as if it's some kind of taboo (we wonder why racial relations are still so shaky, but then we turn around and watch movies like "Something New" and "Guess Who" without batting an eye), but Doctor Who never once brings up Lance or Mickey's race.

Granted, Lance was an idiot villain-lackey who was only using Donna as a means to an end. "I'm aligning myself with an evil alien who wants to eat the human race. Surely, I'll never be eaten." General sci-fi rule: don't trust the aliens who plan on killing the rest of your species. Donna shouldn't have taken it back. He deserved what he got.

I love seeing the TARDIS in flight. The fact that it's a spinning little blue box is just hilarious. The chase scene was still great.

Hm. Looks like Torchwood's curiosity has accidentally almost doomed the entire planet... again.

The villain was a bit of a mustache-twirler, but I like that she didn't feel the need to explain her plan in excruciating detail. We were given it all in pieces, and pretty much figured it out ourselves. Granted, that didn't stop Donna from being confused.

Nice to see the extrapolator again. Forgot all about that thing.

The Batman
12-28-2006, 06:26 PM
Guys....the first ep i really sat through and watched was that doomsday/cybermen two parter, and i must say, that was really good.

I have a question about mickey and rose, though. Were they officially a couple all through their tenures on the show?

By the way, how long do they plan on continuing the series? I read that timelords can only regenerate 13 times, and we're at the tenth doctor so far.

Manic
12-28-2006, 07:00 PM
I have a question about mickey and rose, though. Were they officially a couple all through their tenures on the show?

By the way, how long do they plan on continuing the series? I read that timelords can only regenerate 13 times, and we're at the tenth doctor so far.
They were a couple long before the Doctor ever met Rose, but after Rose & Mickey's first adventure, Rose chose to join the Doctor, while Mickey stayed behind. As far as I know, they never officially broke up. Whenever the Doctor brought Rose home to visit, Mickey would always tag along (and sometimes help them save the world). But Mickey was always a third wheel. He knew Rose loved the Doctor just as much (who am I kidding? More) than him. But whenever the Doctor wasn't around, they were on each other as if there was no one else.

Well, the original Doctor Who series lasted for 20-something years on television, and used 7 Doctors. I figure "New Who" can get a good 10 years in, assuming viewership stays up, and not too many actors quit.

The Batman
12-28-2006, 07:39 PM
ahhhh. ok

is there any place i can watch the older stuff?

Dope Nose
12-28-2006, 07:52 PM
^ I tried sending you a pm but apparently you've exceeded your stored private messages quota.

The Batman
12-28-2006, 07:56 PM
try now....

Lord Valumart
12-29-2006, 06:17 AM
amen lv! bring on the season 3 finale- he's contracted for the final 3 episodes-
3!
the final 3 you say...hmm...wonder if any of the torchwood team will show up...you can never have to much Ianto:cwink:

Bastila
12-29-2006, 09:57 AM
the final 3 you say...hmm...wonder if any of the torchwood team will show up...you can never have to much Ianto:cwink:

I want that to happen so much the Doc and the Torchwood crew, would be really good.

Cyrusbales
12-29-2006, 11:35 AM
the last doctor who(13th regeneration) is evil, and was put on trial in an earlier series. so really we can only have 12 doctors in total, because they have already had the 13th

Lord Valumart
12-29-2006, 11:37 AM
but wasn;t the 13th only a possible future doctor?

ah forget it, like i forget everything that happened during the 6th dr's time(minus the two dr's ep)

Cyrusbales
12-29-2006, 11:51 AM
but wasn;t the 13th only a possible future doctor?

ah forget it, like i forget everything that happened during the 6th dr's time(minus the two dr's ep)

No it's the final doctor for sure, they had to make the doctors timelines cross to put him on trial, was one of the most interesting Dr Who arcs, twas cool! I would like to see evil doctor destroying loadsa races and stuff :)

Lord Valumart
12-29-2006, 11:54 AM
No it's the final doctor for sure, they had to make the doctors timelines cross to put him on trial, was one of the most interesting Dr Who arcs, twas cool! I would like to see evil doctor destroying loadsa races and stuff :)
this is Trial of a Timelord stuff isn;t it?

i like to ignore that, put in in a sort of nowhere place where colin baker was never the dr:woot:

anyhow....RTD don;t care about that story anyhow....neither will anyone else once they come on baord and realise that the dr can;t be doing X in year Y cause he's already doing Z in year Y.

Cyrusbales
12-29-2006, 12:06 PM
Well in terms of timeline, they haven't messed with anything yet in the new series'. Although why do they keep bringing back the daleks then killing them again, they gonna run outta good reasons soon!

Yeah i saw the dalek in the series 3 trailer:)

But i ant the master to be brought back :(

Lord Valumart
12-29-2006, 12:22 PM
everyone wants some monster/villian brought back....but still...sontaran rip-offs:huh:

i want the silurians to come back:csad:

Mister Sinister
12-29-2006, 01:47 PM
FOUR new titles in DWM

1. Smith and Jones
2. The Shakespeare Code
3.
4. Daleks in Manhattan
5.
6. The Lazarus Experiment
7.
8.
9. The Family of Blood
10.
11. Utopia
12.
13.

Lady Stormcrow
12-29-2006, 02:39 PM
FOUR new titles in DWM

1. Smith and Jones
2. The Shakespeare Code
3.
4. Daleks in Manhattan
5.
6. The Lazarus Experiment
7.
8.
9. The Family of Blood
10.
11. Utopia
12.
13.

Hmm, I wonder what episode 4 will be about...

Cyrusbales
12-29-2006, 02:41 PM
Hmm, I wonder what episode 4 will be about...

cybermen maybe?

04nbod
12-29-2006, 02:42 PM
Guys....the first ep i really sat through and watched was that doomsday/cybermen two parter, and i must say, that was really good.

I have a question about mickey and rose, though. Were they officially a couple all through their tenures on the show?

By the way, how long do they plan on continuing the series? I read that timelords can only regenerate 13 times, and we're at the tenth doctor so far.

i think they officially broke up in the parting of the ways- she said there was nothing keeping her on earth meaning him. it was very ambiguous during series 2 but in the cyberman 2 parter had mickey leaving-thus breaking them up totally.

http://i91.photobucket.com/albums/k318/04nbod/untitled-7.jpg
notice the shadows on the floor there are two more daleks- it should be cool-thats episode 4

as for the trail of the doctor- it would be interesting if this began his fall- i mean look at what he was like with the rancoss

Lord Valumart
12-29-2006, 02:59 PM
someone should put a little top hat on Mr Sec and a little tie on him also....he'd look ever so cute:)

but the dalek bumps make me think he's female.....:(

Mr. Thing
12-30-2006, 01:35 PM
No it's the final doctor for sure, they had to make the doctors timelines cross to put him on trial, was one of the most interesting Dr Who arcs, twas cool! I would like to see evil doctor destroying loadsa races and stuff :)

You mean The Valeyard? Well, he was a possible future Doctor. Actually, we don't really know if the Doctor is on his tenth life, I mean, in The Brain Of Morbius, there were images of "possible" past Doctors, before Hartnell etc.

Fry's Girl!!
12-31-2006, 02:18 PM
someone should put a little top hat on Mr Sec and a little tie on him also....he'd look ever so cute:)

but the dalek bumps make me think he's female.....:(

I'd look "ever so cute" with a top hat.

Lord Valumart
12-31-2006, 02:22 PM
I'd look "ever so cute" with a top hat.
i'm willing to be you would:word: :ninja:

Fry's Girl!!
12-31-2006, 02:26 PM
i'm willing to be you would:word: :ninja:


Thank you?

Lord Valumart
12-31-2006, 02:27 PM
Thank you?
i dunno....maybes...:huh:

Fry's Girl!!
12-31-2006, 02:29 PM
i dunno....maybes...:huh:

Why am I bothering, i'm on msn :huh:

Lord Valumart
12-31-2006, 02:33 PM
Why am I bothering, i'm on msn :huh:
because you want to? because you want to?!

Fry's Girl!!
12-31-2006, 02:36 PM
because you want to? because you want to?!

Haha, I got that. That an boredom calls.

regwec
12-31-2006, 03:30 PM
I also am bored beyond belief. And on 31/12! :(

Mister Sinister
12-31-2006, 03:40 PM
Tomorrow's listings

BBC1 @ 4:50 is the Sarah Jane Adventures pilot
BBC3 @ 9:30 is the Torchwood double bill finale

Mr. Thing
12-31-2006, 04:15 PM
Torchwood's a big pile of cack, in my opinion.

Manic
12-31-2006, 11:16 PM
Torchwood is horribly uneven. The producers and writers clearly have no idea what they want to do with it. Some episodes are completely character-driven, and fantastic. Others are centered around lots of people getting killed, and more excuses for them to drop F-bombs just because they can, and those episodes suck ass.

01: Everything Changes - sucks
02: Day One - sure, the constant sex is hot, but it's a weak episode
03: Ghost Machine - pretty good
04: Cyberwoman - good premise, horrible execution
05: Small Worlds - good, but the ending kinda sucks
06: Countrycide - highlight of the season
07: Greeks Bearing Gifts - good
08: They Keep Killing Suzie - good episode, if not a little hard to swallow
09: Random Shoes - good, although the ending is a bit cheesy
10: Out of Time - another season highlight
11: Combat - Fight Club knockoff. *yawn*

It's like I keep saying: Torchwood would've been a good show if it was anything like the Torchwood we saw in "Army of Ghosts." Instead, it's just barely watchable. If this show gets cancelled, I won't be shedding any tears.

regwec
01-01-2007, 08:34 AM
Torchwood's a big pile of cack, in my opinion.
You're quite right. It has a poor cast and very little imagination.

black_dust
01-01-2007, 09:14 AM
I aint even watched an episode of it looks crappy

Cyrusbales
01-01-2007, 01:07 PM
torchwood is better than the adventures of sarah jane

Lord Valumart
01-01-2007, 01:27 PM
IMO the torchwood eps have had good ideas but have been horribly translated to the screen. then thats something i come to expect from the team that gave us TGIF. fav ep by far has been Small Worlds, but it was let down by the ending with that frumpy woman going all shouty and getting jiggly(in a bad way).

anyhow, i watch cause i hope it gets better, as of yet it's gotten slightly better. the lowest point of the series had to be Day One, with everything just being copied fromother things and smushed into a "sexy thriller plot of bollocks".

SJA sucks:down

Fried Gold
01-01-2007, 01:37 PM
torchwood is better than the adventures of sarah janeIsn't that a bit like saying that This Life is better than Byker Grove?

Cyrusbales
01-01-2007, 01:41 PM
Isn't that a bit like saying that This Life is better than Byker Grove?

It's more like saying medicore sex is better than really bad masturbation:word:

Bastila
01-01-2007, 02:59 PM
torchwood is better than the adventures of sarah jane

What was that like? haven't seen it yet.

I like Torchwood, some episodes are not all good, but most I have liked.

Cyrusbales
01-01-2007, 03:02 PM
What was that like? haven't seen it yet.

I like Torchwood, some episodes are not all good, but most I have liked.

it's kids saving the world with no acting ability or originality, very plain and patronising

Bastila
01-01-2007, 03:16 PM
it's kids saving the world with no acting ability or originality, very plain and patronising

Kids + saving world = not good lol, i dont like the sound of that, they sound annoying.

Mister Sinister
01-01-2007, 03:33 PM
Sarah Jane Adventures is a KIDS show. Don't forget that.

Cyrusbales
01-01-2007, 03:35 PM
Sarah Jane Adventures is a KIDS show. Don't forget that.

they should not be patronising though, it's bad for children

Lord Valumart
01-01-2007, 03:39 PM
they should not be patronising though, it's bad for children
have you seen kids tv shows today? this is the best one i've seen in years. all the other ones are leither stupid cartoons or things that treat kids like morons

Cyrusbales
01-01-2007, 03:41 PM
have you seen kids tv shows today? this is the best one i've seen in years. all the other ones are leither stupid cartoons or things that treat kids like morons


well I barely even watch TV, let alone kids TV

black_dust
01-01-2007, 03:50 PM
For kids SJA was pretty good i thought :D

04nbod
01-01-2007, 05:10 PM
doctor who is a kids show as well remember. watching the torchwood finale now- haven't seen any episodes since the pilot. jack is wonderful- i love him to bits.

one question- is the hand the doctor's from christmas?

Cyrusbales
01-01-2007, 05:12 PM
Doctor who is a family show, so it's designed for both adults and children, wheras the adventures of sarah jane is purely for kids

Dope Nose
01-01-2007, 05:33 PM
one question- is the hand the doctor's from christmas?

yep, the one that was cut off by the Sycorax. though who knows whether the show's writers will do anything with it.

edit: never mind. hadn't watched the Torchwood finale yet.

Lord Valumart
01-01-2007, 05:38 PM
doctor who is a kids show as well remember. watching the torchwood finale now- haven't seen any episodes since the pilot. jack is wonderful- i love him to bits.

one question- is the hand the doctor's from christmas?
i 2nd this!!*raises hand wildly*

and yes, the hand is the dr's nonfightin' hand

04nbod
01-01-2007, 06:05 PM
tardis!!!!!!! ahhhh

Mister Sinister
01-01-2007, 07:34 PM
Torchwood goes out with a bang, those last two episodes were better than a lot of Who episodes. And I don't care how gay this sounds, but that kiss was lovely.

04nbod
01-02-2007, 12:20 AM
no shame in it- i was screaming at the tv because i thought jack wasn't going to do it- notice it mirrored the moment in my avi which i thought was beautiful

Canadian Rider
01-02-2007, 12:23 AM
The CBC here in Canada is really pushing the new series. I think it is great, but the Daliks bring back terrible memories from childhood.

04nbod
01-02-2007, 12:26 AM
thats the point- your meant to go and hide behind your sofa:woot:

Canadian Rider
01-02-2007, 12:34 AM
thats the point- your meant to go and hide behind your sofa:woot:

Sorry Bod. It wasn't them. It was my two older brothers pretending to be them and attacking me all the while yelling in that robotic voice ... "resistance is futile!" :wow:

04nbod
01-02-2007, 12:41 AM
i'm an only child i didn't suffer the dalek trauma only the overprotective mother trauma

Canadian Rider
01-02-2007, 12:49 AM
Ah. Was "Emergency" big in your neck of the woods? One more show that my brothers were educated by. My chest still has marks from being defribrillated ... :whatever:

04nbod
01-02-2007, 12:52 AM
never heard of the show- but i'm sure your experiences built 'character':oldrazz:
god my mum always used to say that to me when i got hurt.

Lord Valumart
01-02-2007, 07:52 AM
i feel slightly let down by the ending of torchwood, for the following reasons

1. no actual tardis seen:(
2. how did the dr and martha find jack?
3. this holds out little hope for dr/owen banter:(
4. i was hoping fro something more aong the lines of:

*tadris crash lands*
martha: where are we?
dr: earth....21st century....cardiff:S why cardiff?
*dr runs out of cardiff to be confronted by jack and torchwood*
dr: ah....jack?!
jack: dr!:eek:
etc....(don;t rip on my writing skills:cmad: )

Cyrusbales
01-02-2007, 07:53 AM
not seen the last 3 episodes of torchwood yet, got them on video, but I haven't seen most of the series, it never really caught on to me

Fried Gold
01-02-2007, 08:04 AM
i feel slightly let down by the ending of torchwood, for the following reasons

1. no actual tardis seen:(
2. how did the dr and martha find jack?
3. this holds out little hope for dr/owen banter:(
4. i was hoping fro something more aong the lines of:

*tadris crash lands*
martha: where are we?
dr: earth....21st century....cardiff:S why cardiff?
*dr runs out of cardiff to be confronted by jack and torchwood*
dr: ah....jack?!
jack: dr!:eek:
etc....(don;t rip on my writing skills:cmad: )They need to keep Torchwood as seperate as possible from Doctor Who, so that regular Doctor Who viewers do not feel as though they are missing anything. This isn't like Buffy and Angel. Although we know that a TARDIS arrived, there needed to be an air of mystery as we were looking at it through Gwen's eyes. It would've made no sense dramatically for the Doctor to appear, all smiles and open arms.

Cyrusbales
01-02-2007, 08:07 AM
i really feel that they have gone overboard with Doctor who, with all the spin offs and extra 'dr who-fanatics' shows etc. It's a dangerous road to go down, that will make the appeal different, which will in turn affect the content :(

Fried Gold
01-02-2007, 08:11 AM
i really feel that they have gone overboard with Doctor who, with all the spin offs and extra 'dr who-fanatics' shows etc. It's a dangerous road to go down, that will make the appeal different, which will in turn affect the content :(I think it's saving grace is that unlike say, Star Trek, the spin-offs are at least tailored to different audiences.

Cyrusbales
01-02-2007, 08:15 AM
I think it's saving grace is that unlike say, Star Trek, the spin-offs are at least tailored to different audiences.

whilst a do agree with you partyl, ASJ is awful, and torchwood seems to think by throwing in lots of sex, it becomes adult. The potential for torchwood was amazing, it has yet to deliver, being more like a soap, although i have higher hopes for the last few episodes and the next series.

regwec
01-02-2007, 08:24 AM
The biggest problem Torchwood has is its characters. None of them are interesting. Captain Jack worked reasonably well as a guest character in Doctor Who because he merely gave some sort of contrast to the lead character. As the focus of a serial, he's boring. The female lead is alright, but the whole thing with her boyfriend is very dull. The other team members are just crap, and played by crap actors.

Fried Gold
01-02-2007, 08:25 AM
whilst a do agree with you partyl, ASJ is awful, and torchwood seems to think by throwing in lots of sex, it becomes adult. The potential for torchwood was amazing, it has yet to deliver, being more like a soap, although i have higher hopes for the last few episodes and the next series.Yeah, but SJA is hardly meant to be BAFTA material. I think I would've quite liked it if I were say, 10 years old, but over a decades worth of higher education has me demanding a little more from my television than unsubtle themes regarding the dangers of junk food, and the wacky delights of badly rendered CGI monsters.

Having said that, it pisses on Byker Grove, even now.

Torchwood is far too inconsistant to even crtique as every argument is proven then disproven and then proven again with each episode.

Cyrusbales
01-02-2007, 08:26 AM
the idea of a professional defence society seems very lost, as they all act like angsty teenagers trying to screw each other, spending more time doing that than their supposed 'life consuming' jobs.

Lord Valumart
01-02-2007, 08:46 AM
They need to keep Torchwood as seperate as possible from Doctor Who, so that regular Doctor Who viewers do not feel as though they are missing anything. This isn't like Buffy and Angel. Although we know that a TARDIS arrived, there needed to be an air of mystery as we were looking at it through Gwen's eyes. It would've made no sense dramatically for the Doctor to appear, all smiles and open arms.
i understand the have to keep it seperate but are you telling me that kids don;t watch torchwood? cause they do. i would really see nothing wrong with the torchwood team appearing in dr who, aslong as the dr doesn;t appear in torchwood it'll all be fine.

also, come on...dr/owen banter would be awesome:woot:

EDIT:
i just want more of kick ass Ianto, rather than tea boy Ianto:csad:

OtepApe
01-02-2007, 09:18 AM
Great last two episodes. The series has been all over the place, but it did go out in style I thought. Damn shame some of the best eps are the last two, makes the wait for series 2 a pain.

In the second when Abaddon appeared, that was a great surprise to see.

And Bill Manger, that guy is one creepy, odd looking mofo.

Overall, I have enjoyed the series. Personally, I like every character. They all bring something to the table, and especially the progression of Owen.

Climperoonie
01-02-2007, 03:49 PM
I think that Gwen should have seen at least the TARDIS when it was 3 quaters through dematerialisation. So basically when it was basically transparent whilst disappearing.

Bastila
01-02-2007, 04:24 PM
I loved the ending to Torchwood, you have to see it, if you haven't I was like yeah!!!

Even though it was just the sound of the Tardis still I was like oh my god!! lol.
And we all know what that hand was, is the Doctors hand of course!
After all that time I was like thats his hand lol hehe.

But I can't wait I love Jack his so cool and unstoppable.

04nbod
01-02-2007, 04:34 PM
anyone notice the bad wolf grafitti on the wall behind jack before he got transported to the second world war.- very cool. there is talk on outpost gallifrey that it wasn't the doctor at all but the master's tardis- the master being the creepy stabby guy. i hope not.
also the vote saxon posteron the dance hall door.- key for series 3 of DW

ooh i loved it but i would have liked jack to have found out how he became immortal before seeing the doctor. Now let the fur fly , i say ...
this makes series 3 seems much more exciting than it did before

Bastila
01-02-2007, 04:48 PM
anyone notice the bad wolf grafitti on the wall behind jack before he got transported to the second world war.- very cool.

Oh yeah I did, how cool, I love connection things like them.

Manic
01-02-2007, 04:53 PM
When they were opening the rift, I was hoping they'd finally explain the connection between Gwen and Gwyneth ("The Unquiet Dead"). No such luck. I even felt let down by the rift being used as a timeless prison for the Beast's son. I would've preferred a bunch of omnious signs, like what we got in "The Impossible Planet" (a little unreadable writing in the dance hall would've been a nice touch). Basically, I wasn't feeling the ending at all. Jack getting swept away by the Doctor was nice, though.

Loved episode 12, by the way.

Bastila
01-02-2007, 04:56 PM
Gwen was in the Unquiet dead, forgot that, now that would have been cool, if they did something with that, how knows they still might.

Although I found Own annoying a lot.

Manic
01-02-2007, 05:06 PM
The only episode I really liked Owen in was "Ghost Machine." Otherwise, it seems like the actor thinks shivering is the same as displaying emotion.

Fried Gold
01-03-2007, 08:23 AM
Oh yeah I did, how cool, I love connection things like them.In the recently released Invasion DVD, one of the animated missing episode has 'Bad Wolf' scribbled on a wall.

Lord Valumart
01-03-2007, 12:10 PM
In the recently released Invasion DVD, one of the animated missing episode has 'Bad Wolf' scribbled on a wall.
i don;t like that link....i prefer the idea that it's just the 9th dr's life that's being affected by bad wolf.

also the bad wolf grafftii appears in a spier-man comic somewhere....:huh:

04nbod
01-03-2007, 02:36 PM
well i'm of the opinion that bad wolf is the connection between the doctor and rose and can appear anywhere because no matter how he regenerates its the same man.

its a common phrase though- bad wolf- beowolf- fairy tale wolf it turns up everywhere. however i'm still very confused about it.

Lord Valumart
01-03-2007, 02:43 PM
rose only knew the 9th dr at the time she went all bad wolf so it makes sence fro it to be a connection between her and her dr. plus would explain why it's not around druing tennants time in the tardis....

04nbod
01-03-2007, 03:06 PM
no she could see the whole of time and space- she could put it anywhere- she did not know about jacks future but it was in torchwood

and tooth and claw had tonnes of bad wolf hints with tennant

Lord Valumart
01-03-2007, 03:11 PM
to be perfectly honest the torchwood set blokes probably thought it would be a laugh...since they thought it would be a laugh to give them branded phones and tea mugs....and jacks baby tardis....

and it was a link for HER to find...so she would put it where she had been during her time with the 9th dr....

04nbod
01-03-2007, 03:21 PM
it was in torchwood as a hint to the end where he resurrects - the bad wolf effect imo

as i said before it still confuses me whether its a message or a physical thing. another question is why the daleks call her the abomination?

Lord Valumart
01-03-2007, 03:25 PM
it can be taken in different wways by different people...lets just leave it at that and then we're both right...

i have no idea why they called her the abomination. possibly because she's not supposed to have that sort of power and she's using it against them. they always hate that sort of thing....and hats:huh:

04nbod
01-03-2007, 03:34 PM
they called it her before and then the emperor did -anyway i hate arguing with you lv :woot: lets be friends again

Lord Valumart
01-03-2007, 03:36 PM
it's not arguing....it's frendly debate about a subject we both love:D

but still....freinds is good:heart: :woot:

Noir
01-03-2007, 03:44 PM
no she could see the whole of time and space- she could put it anywhere- she did not know about jacks future but it was in torchwood

and tooth and claw had tonnes of bad wolf hints with tennant


....Did you guys even pay attention..
She wasn't putting the references for the Doctor, she was bloody putting them for her..
Hence why it is only with the 9th Doctor, and why she had that whole "OH, I put it there.. me and The Doctor are always connected..Bleh."

Tooth and Claw was about a Wolf.. Any questions?

04nbod
01-03-2007, 06:15 PM
....Did you guys even pay attention..
She wasn't putting the references for the Doctor, she was bloody putting them for her..
Hence why it is only with the 9th Doctor, and why she had that whole "OH, I put it there.. me and The Doctor are always connected..Bleh."

Tooth and Claw was about a Wolf.. Any questions?

no need to be that way about it.
1. she says in parting of the ways - 'i am the bad wolf i create myself'- as in a physical manifestation. the messages are a part of it but she could see all of time and space - places these references all over in case. (as seen in torchwood, where the 9th doctor was no where in sight. )

2. yes it was about a werewolf but there were bad wolf references about rose
the doctor calls her a 'timorous beastie', and 'feral child' as does victoria - 'the feral child could eat it raw'
add that to the wolf saying- 'there is something of the wolf about you'(a physical trait of the wolf in rose?)
and when the doctor is on one side of the wall and the werewolf on the other echoes doomsday were rose(the bad wolf)is on the other side of the wall

any questions?

Lord Valumart
01-03-2007, 06:22 PM
any questions?
i'm in love with that post....marry me?:ninja:

04nbod
01-03-2007, 06:24 PM
oh go on then...

Lord Valumart
01-03-2007, 06:28 PM
yey....:woot:

Cyrusbales
01-03-2007, 06:33 PM
what have i walked in on? 'eek'

Lord Valumart
01-03-2007, 06:35 PM
what have i walked in on? 'eek'
you walked in on nothing....you clicked open a thread that exposed things:huh:

Cyrusbales
01-03-2007, 06:40 PM
you walked in on nothing....you clicked open a thread that exposed things:huh:

I actually climed into my computer, it's a little painful to be fair, moving on.....

Once again, the doctor who series is filmed almost entirely in Cardiff, anyone else want some variation?

Lord Valumart
01-03-2007, 06:43 PM
i want them to go to the little town of royston vasily.....

that would be funny:huh:

04nbod
01-03-2007, 06:49 PM
this is an ordinary shop for ordinary people your not welcome here :woot:

Lord Valumart
01-03-2007, 06:56 PM
this is an ordinary shop for ordinary people your not welcome here :woot:
if only it was run by the master then all my dreams would come true....minus the owning a monkey one...

The Batman
01-03-2007, 07:07 PM
would anyone else besides me like to see romana back in a new form?

Lord Valumart
01-03-2007, 07:09 PM
oh!! oh!! i want a new romana!!

but the 4th dr traded her in for adric

fan #1: is it true the dr once killed a man jsut to watch him die?
fan #2: yeh, but that man was adric

lol

The Batman
01-03-2007, 07:12 PM
didnt she choose to leave the doc?

Lord Valumart
01-03-2007, 07:16 PM
i don;t remember the exact details...i'm not some super fan...

The Batman
01-03-2007, 07:21 PM
yeah...she goes off in some universe on her own adventures

its posible she wasnt even around for the time war, but RTD says she was president of gallifrey when it happened

Cyrusbales
01-03-2007, 07:24 PM
do you think they're leaving it open to go back and sort out the time war? Maybe the Doctor gets given an oppertunity to stop the time war from ever happening? But maybe he would refuse.....who knows....

Lord Valumart
01-03-2007, 07:29 PM
yeah...she goes off in some universe on her own adventures

its posible she wasnt even around for the time war, but RTD says she was president of gallifrey when it happened
RTD is taking what he wants from the books/comics/audio to be cannon.

since the introduction of the time war it's all gone to hell to be honest...(cannon that is, not the show)

Noir
01-03-2007, 10:26 PM
The Doctor can't stop the time war.. you people really call your self fans!? If he had gotten the chance to the reapers from the Vortex would come in and consume him, given he would have created a paradox..
The only way Romana could even possibly come back would be if it was an Alternate Universe version.. and I don't see that happening..

Also, wouldn't it be great to have the two Alternate Versions of the 9th Doctor meet the 10th... I am talking of course about the Shalka and the Curse of the Fatal Death Doctor..

The Batman
01-04-2007, 02:40 PM
uh....

The real romana could come back. Officially, she went off into a parallel universe, not back to gallifrey. RTD may think she was on gallifrey during the war, but the fact that he's never shown this on the new TV series means anyone can bring her back once RTD's tenure is over, if he never does show what happens in the time war

04nbod
01-04-2007, 03:29 PM
damn parallel universes the bane of the doctor's life. :oldrazz:

Lord Valumart
01-04-2007, 03:42 PM
uh....

The real romana could come back. Officially, she went off into a parallel universe, not back to gallifrey. RTD may think she was on gallifrey during the war, but the fact that he's never shown this on the new TV series means anyone can bring her back once RTD's tenure is over, if he never does show what happens in the time war
yeh...but this is where the big canon debate comes in...

http://www.superherohype.com/forums/showthread.php?t=261608

Mister Sinister
01-04-2007, 06:03 PM
Amber Benson for Romana.

Noir
01-04-2007, 06:30 PM
NO ROMANA! ROMANA = DEAD!

Even if she was in another Universe.. she isn't coming back..
Remember its almost impossible to get back.. The Doctor can't save Rose, and Romana can't get back.. simple as that..

Lord Valumart
01-04-2007, 06:38 PM
NO ROMANA! ROMANA = DEAD!

Even if she was in another Universe.. she isn't coming back..
Remember its almost impossible to get back.. The Doctor can't save Rose, and Romana can't get back.. simple as that..
the TARDIS might not be build for E-Space(where romana is if the books and audio aren't canon) but remember in Earthshock the dr was going to take Adric back there if the calculations were worked out right. the Pete's Wolrd thing is a totaly different sitution...

Noir
01-04-2007, 06:52 PM
If anything and she is alive.. she might be in one the Time Lord store-niverse, like the Slaughter House except maybe its called.. the Safehouse?

Lord Valumart
01-04-2007, 07:03 PM
it's possible....or...maybes the timelords had a void ship and sent her away in that if she was president....i dunno...i seamd kind of harsh killing an entire race by the 2nd episode

Noir
01-04-2007, 07:15 PM
Hopefully we get some sort of Time Lord revival.. The Doctor said in "The Gallifrey Chronicles" That if he could find a powerful enough computer that he could restore Gallifrey.. Why can't the 11th (See Canon disscussion) just do the same..?

Lord Valumart
01-04-2007, 07:41 PM
the 11th can't do that cause it would mean that the viewers would have to have read the book to fully understand wahts going on. plus i don;t think a computer could bring back a planet and it's people, thre would have to be something more...

wobbly
01-04-2007, 08:13 PM
If the writers really want to do it anyone and anything can be brought back from it's apparant death, no matter how total it may have been presented initially (Just look at the Daleks...Rose obliterated them 'everywhere' but the writer came up with a way to keep them on the go regardless).

As for anything outside of the TV shows being used as canon...I doubt any writer for the show, wether it be RTD (who is just the hired help of the day remember) or whoever takes over from him down the line, will feel too beholden to to any of that, even whatever good stuff there might be in it. In the end most will think 'if it's never been aired to the general TV audience then it just doesn't count'.

Lord Valumart
01-04-2007, 08:26 PM
if they are to bring a character back from the dead they need something thats good, and you can make sence of. the void ship was that. and since the cybermen were Pete's World cybes then the real ones can come back with ease, since the basic concept has been given to the new fans just a bit of somthing along the lines of:

dr: cybermen!
martha: but i thought they were all destroyed in the canarywarf thing?
dr: no, those ones were from an alternite universe, these ones are from our universe, our ones
cyber leader: excellet, we have the dr and his assistant. i tried that meal you suggest dr, it was quite yummy

you get the idea...

Noir
01-04-2007, 08:44 PM
as long as the new old Cybermen are upgraded abit..
I like the CG Cybes from the Webcast Real Time.

Lord Valumart
01-04-2007, 08:51 PM
the ones that had the shoulder pads?

i always thought that if they cybermen were coming back then a better silver boiler suit was needed. the cybes were good this series, but they really lacked the true cyberman feel the old ones had. these ones were much more cyber than man. i know they're supposed to be heartless characters but come on...are you telling me that in AoG/Doomsday you couldn;t have just had some killer robots in there rather than the cybermen for the most part?

when they come back i'd hope to see thembe a bit more man than they were this time.

Noir
01-04-2007, 09:05 PM
the ones that had the shoulder pads?

i always thought that if they cybermen were coming back then a better silver boiler suit was needed. the cybes were good this series, but they really lacked the true cyberman feel the old ones had. these ones were much more cyber than man. i know they're supposed to be heartless characters but come on...are you telling me that in AoG/Doomsday you couldn;t have just had some killer robots in there rather than the cybermen for the most part?

when they come back i'd hope to see thembe a bit more man than they were this time.


The new series Cybes were good.. but like you said they were mostly robot. The old cybermen had that fear element that the were Modian on the inside but they were enslaved by there technology.. they had alot more than just a nervous system and a brain..

Maybe the Cybermen could have a borg like appearance? To show the Humanoid beings they are..

04nbod
01-05-2007, 05:14 AM
NO ROMANA! ROMANA = DEAD!

Even if she was in another Universe.. she isn't coming back..
Remember its almost impossible to get back.. The Doctor can't save Rose, and Romana can't get back.. simple as that..


the rift in cardiff is RTD's way of reversing all :cwink:

Cyrusbales
01-05-2007, 08:57 AM
Watched the last 3 episodes of torchwood last night, the last episode was......disapointing in it's conclusion. Really, doctor who>>>>>infinitely>>>>>>torchwood. When abaddon is killing off loadsa people, with a huge time rift, the doctor would be there and sort it, not just jack using the excess energy from the tardis rssurection to kill it. And if the time rift opening fully sucked things back in when abaddon died, WHY DOES JACK SAY IT'S GONNA BE MORE VOLITILE? Just seems odd to me, like they needed a big story but then thought, we need to keep the rift open too, let's use a cop out solution.

Although Bilis was a great badguy, doctor who worthy me thinks, however they failed to use him to his full potential in the last episode :(

04nbod
01-05-2007, 11:59 PM
i thought it was great. episode 12 had me weeping. i thought exactly the same thing about the doctor being there- that could be the reason he shows up at the end but he realises its too late. i don't understand why abbadon died- i mean he feeds on life so why would giving him lots of it kill him? its like giving a fat person tons and tons of burgers. jack says it will be more volatile to grab viewers for the next series. the rift is closed. and as for bilis- he escaped so you might have your wish to get him in who. he may follow jack into episode 11-13

Manic
01-06-2007, 03:30 AM
i don't understand why abbadon died- i mean he feeds on life so why would giving him lots of it kill him? its like giving a fat person tons and tons of burgers.
What happens when you feed a fat person tons of burgers at once? Heart attack. Jack overloaded it.

Lady Stormcrow
01-06-2007, 11:30 AM
Or like the answer in 'Tooth and Claw', which was something like 'you drink water, but you can still drown in it.'

Lord Valumart
01-06-2007, 01:41 PM
yous guys might not care, but there was going to be a Dalek ep of Torchwood, but it was canned cause they thought it would make little kiddies watch it....as opposed to the cyber hooker.....

Noir
01-06-2007, 01:45 PM
The Cyber Hooker LOL..
I'd rather have a Dalek over a Robo-*****.

Lord Valumart
01-06-2007, 01:49 PM
oh come on...are you telling me the first that popped into your head when you saw her in the preview wasn't "hmm...kinky whovian...":oldrazz"

IMO the dino thing they have(had?) going cracers would have been better than Lisa...

04nbod
01-06-2007, 02:07 PM
What happens when you feed a fat person tons of burgers at once? Heart attack. Jack overloaded it.

yep i thought that but that takes time a fat person doesn't explode- although that would have been funny for abbadon.

Or like the answer in 'Tooth and Claw', which was something like 'you drink water, but you can still drown in it.'

i remembered the exact same quote ' you're 80% water but you can still drown'- should have been more explicit though


first multiquote:woot:

Max Shrek
01-06-2007, 05:22 PM
Does anyone else think the Impossible Planet music (see album) is an homage/rip-off of Firefly/Serenity? They're music is very similar to that. Don't get me wrong, it's a great song (Murray Gold = genius), but I think it might've been made a tip of the hat to them (both take place in dirty, hard-working futures, not the bright world of Star Trek).

04nbod
01-06-2007, 08:09 PM
russell t davies is in love with whedon. in all the lead up interviews he would say this was more like buffy so it wouldn't surprise me

Mister Sinister
01-07-2007, 04:09 PM
http://ec2.images-amazon.com/images/P/1846072042.01._SS500_SCLZZZZZZZ_V34447431_.jpg

New book coming up, check out the author.

Noir
01-07-2007, 06:56 PM
Dickie boY XDDD. How are they gonna work the Cybermen back in? They went to the void..

Unless, there was an army that had already been upgraded in our universe that had never passed through..

Also, vote in my poll for favorite Doctor:
http://www.superherohype.com/forums/showthread.php?t=261944

Manic
01-08-2007, 12:37 AM
--delete--

04nbod
01-08-2007, 12:31 PM
saw the tv movie last night- damn americanisation. i m in love with mcgann's doctor though.- he's purrrty and eccentric and jelly baby!

Lord Valumart
01-08-2007, 12:33 PM
saw the tv movie last night- damn americanisation. i m in love with mcgann's doctor though.- he's purrrty and eccentric and jelly baby!

aren't we all:csad: :csad:

04nbod
01-08-2007, 12:39 PM
there is always the radio:(

Lord Valumart
01-08-2007, 12:41 PM
but i want to be able to watch McGann run along in his cotume and gawk at his new assistants breasts at the same time and think "boucy boucy:woot:":csad:

04nbod
01-08-2007, 12:49 PM
i'm sure we can come up with each doctor's pick up line
8- jelly baby?
9- run!
10-who you gonna call?(ghostbusters)
lol

Lord Valumart
01-08-2007, 12:52 PM
i know that if anyone used the Ghostbusters lin on me i'd be there's to do as they please....only if they be female mind ;)

actualy...for tennant i see it like this...

hot female: *cry cry cry whipmer cry*
tennant: i'm sorry, i'm so sorry
hot female: it's *cry* so nice *cry* to find someone *whimper* who cares *tears*
tennant: phworr!!!

lol

04nbod
01-08-2007, 01:01 PM
i have too show you this
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7K-_Kpnc7R0

too funny

Lord Valumart
01-08-2007, 01:06 PM
oh thats just awesome right there:woot: lol

04nbod
01-08-2007, 01:12 PM
not as funny but still worth a mention
doc number 9

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=hOu7sKcIJCQ

Noir
01-08-2007, 01:16 PM
McGann was a sweet Doctor, the movie was pretty campy but atleast we still have Audioplays and those really good books.

Also, I just got back from Barnes and Noble and I bought Lost in Time: Patrick Troughton, its really good nice to finally see the Yeti on my big screen XDDD.

Lord Valumart
01-08-2007, 01:19 PM
aww....i miss Chris as the dr:csad:

but onwards and upwards eh? tennant has the hair that chris was lacking:oldrazz:

04nbod
01-08-2007, 01:21 PM
i actually think that we are gonna see tennant step back into more of a chris like role from series 1. he had issues back then but in series 2 he had put it behind him. now he has beautiful wonderful issues again.

Lord Valumart
01-08-2007, 01:25 PM
it's always fun to have issues:woot:

shame we couldn't have just gotten one more series with chris, admn that would have been good. still, we have a nice thing with chris' series, starts off suicidal, meets rose, moans about time war, finds reason to live again, dies to save the woman who saved him...RTD turned Who into a love story!!:cmad:

04nbod
01-08-2007, 01:37 PM
and?

Lord Valumart
01-08-2007, 01:39 PM
what do you mean "and?" isn;t it obvious that RTD has twisted the show beyond the technobabble and random continuity refferences that destroyed the show and made it an accessable show for people of all ages and gender!! this is not acceptable:cmad:

04nbod
01-08-2007, 01:44 PM
ahh i see and agree totally:cwink: :oldrazz:

Lord Valumart
01-08-2007, 01:46 PM
at long last someone else!! lol

if only they had the GCI in the old series...it would have been so cool:csad: but still, the cheese would be gone and thats whats fun about them:woot:

The Lizard
01-08-2007, 02:25 PM
It's going to be cool to see Dalek toys in mainstream American toy stores at long last this year. :up:

04nbod
01-08-2007, 04:05 PM
kylie minogue is a whovian- listen carefully for the tardis and the mock cyberpeople- i heard she used rose's bad wolf lines in one of her show's too
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=x8Kc6MXWsuw

oh and lv- you'll find like minded people here
http://www.gallifreyone.com/forum/showthread.php?t=110684&page=8
its got so vicious it's bordering on funny

Cyrusbales
01-08-2007, 04:07 PM
who else wants more alien world stuff? I'm sick of Earth, especially since they kept re-running those crappy pertwee episodes for years

04nbod
01-08-2007, 04:09 PM
as long as its more that- they are trying to take over the human race/ destroy the earth i'm ok with earth. there is more new earth in the next series and one beginning with m that i can't remember

regwec
01-09-2007, 12:41 PM
I want more inter-planetary stuff, and more historical settings. Anything other than contemporary London/Cardiff.

Lord Valumart
01-09-2007, 12:51 PM
how's about contemporary Glasgow?

i agree the format of earth gets invaded every weekend during the school holidays is a bit tired. still...it worked fine with pertwee...:oldrazz:

still...huzah for the irsh catmen of New Earth!!:woot:

Mr. Thing
01-09-2007, 01:12 PM
Don't worry, there are 3 alien planets this year, and 3 (that we know of) historical-ish episodes. One set round about 1914, one set in the Shakespeare era and one set during 1930's New York.

Manic
01-09-2007, 02:32 PM
Honestly, I'd settle for episodes that take place on space stations and ships. There was nothing wrong with Girl in the Fireplace or the Satellite-9 episodes.

Speaking of which, was the space station the 9th Doctor and Rose visited in the year 6-billion the same as the satellite the Daleks and Shaun of the Dead took over?

Lord Valumart
01-09-2007, 03:09 PM
the satalite in the year 5 billion/apple or whatever...was platform one, and set well after the events of simon pegg and the daleks, which took place on satalite 5 and the game station(both the same place but under different names)

Lord Valumart
01-09-2007, 03:20 PM
you guys may like....
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i know we're not really about the toys here and everything but i think the autons are an awesome addition to the range:woot:

regwec
01-09-2007, 03:24 PM
http://www.action-figure.com/index.php?name=News&file=article&sid=20915

Some new ones, too. The clockwork cyborgs look great.

04nbod
01-09-2007, 03:24 PM
the autons would freak me out- they are killer plastic in a plastic toy arrhhh...

for those who want all the spoilers so far and don't go to a certain who forum...

Originally Posted by The_Iceman2288 View Post
Start Date: - Spring 2007
Currently Filming

Main Cast Members: -
The Doctor - David Tennant
Martha Jones - Freema Agyeman
Captain Jack - John Barrowman
Leo Jones - Reggie Yates
Clive Jones - Trevor Laird
Francine Jones - Adjoa Andoh
Tish Jones - Gugu Mbatha-Raw
Crew: -
Writers - Russell T Davies x5, Helen Raynor x2, Gareth Roberts, Paul Cornell x2, Stephen Moffat, Chris Chibnall and Stephen Greenhorn
Producers - Phil Collinson, Susie Liggat
Executive Producers - Russell T Davies, Julie Gardner
Directors - Charles Palmer, Euros Lyn, Graeme Harper, James Strong, Hettie MacDonald and Richard Clarke


Christmas Special - The Runaway Bride by Russell T Davies
Director - Euros Lyn


Smith and Jones by Russell T Davies
Director - Charles Palmer
Cast - Anne Reid (Florence), Roy Marsden (Mr. Stoker)
Synopsis - The Doctor faces the dreaded Judoon, who have transported a hospital to the moon... including the young Martha Jones
- Martha is introduced and becomes the Doctor's companion.
- Directed by newcomer Charles Palmer, son of Silurians and Mutants actor Geoffrey Palmer
- Believed to take place in a hospital and the moon and may involve an 'alien courier'.
- The sonic screwdriver is said to be destroyed in this episode

The Shakespeare Code by Gareth Roberts (Filming Wrapped)
Director - Charles Palmer
Cast - Dean Lennox Kelly (William Shakespeare)
Synopsis - Set in 1599 in Tudor London, the episode features the Doctor's first meeting with William Shakespeare as he foils a plot to destroy the Earth.
- This episode contains the words "Dolly", "Elephant" and "Rexel".
- Filming is taking place at a hospital in Wales doubling as the globe theatre
- "The Shakespeare episode is, without doubt, one of our most ambitious projects to date," enthused Russell T Davies. "It's incredible to have a working replica of London's most famous theatre in which to film the new series. Viewers can look forward to Shakespeare giving the performance of his life in order to save the Earth from destruction."
- Said to be the most expensive episode to date
- No references to the Doctor meeting Shakespeare previously, however, nothing will be contradicted

Episode 3 by Russell T Davies (Filming Wrapped)
Director - Richard Clarke
Cast - Ardal O'Hanlon (Brannigan), Jennifer Hennesy (Valerie)
Synopsis - The Doctor returns to New Earth and encounters the Face of Boe again.
- Part of block 3 with episode 6
- Contains the line "No guns, I'm not having guns"
- Brannigan is a cat person and Valerie is his wife
- The Face of Boe and New Earth will both appear and Boe will impart his four words to the Doctor, widely speculated to be "you are not alone". It is believed that this is a scene moved from Series 2's New Earth.

Episodes 4(Daleks in Manhatten) and 5 by Helen Raynor
Director - James Strong
Cast - Hugh Quarshie (Solomon), Miranda Raison (Showgirl), Ryan Carnes, Andrew Garfield, Eric Loren, Flik Swann, Alexis Caley, Earl Perkins, Peter Brookem, Ian Porter
Synopsis - The Daleks invade 1930s New York
- These episodes have promised excellent monsters. She is the first female writer for new Who
- Contains the words "Devils", "Wings" and "Wardrobe"
- "big, lavish block with powerful scripts and some extraordinary sets...built in the Upper Boat studios."

The Lazarus Experiment by Stephen Greenhorn
Director - Richard Clarke
Cast - Mark Gatiss (Doctor Lazarus), Thelma Barlow (Lady Thaw)
- Part of Block 3 with episode 3
- Contains the words ''moon", "miracle" and "1666"
- Mark Gatiss will play a scientist who finds a way to reverse the aging process?

Episode 7 by Chris Chibnall
Director - Graeme Harper
- Chibnall wrote 'Day One', 'Cyberwoman', 'Countrycide' and 'End of Days' for Torchwood

Episodes 8 and The Family of Blood (Episode 9) by Paul Cornell
Director - Charles Palmer
Cast - Jessica Stevenson (Jean Redfern), Tom Sangster
Synopsis - After years as the last of the Time Lords, the Doctor gives it up to settle down as a normal person, an adaptation of Paul Cornell's Human Nature
- Set Pre-World War 1
- His episodes contain the words "Tango", "Jenny" and "Gun"

Episode 10 by Stephen Moffat
Director - Hettie MacDonald
- Has personally said it's not as good as Empty Child/Girl in the Fireplace
- Possibly the filler episode explaining Jack's arrival at Torchwood 3

Utopia by Russell T Davies
Director - Graeme Harper

Episodes 12 and 13 by Russell T Davies
Director - Colin Teague
- In The Impossible Planet/The Satan Pit, the monster at the bottom of the pit was meant to be a certain monster, they decided against it and that monster will now be used in this series finale
- The finale will outgun the previous two

Martha Jones/Freema Agyeman
- She WON'T be in the Christmas Special
- There IS an explanation as to why she looks like Adeola
- She believes she's more on a level with The Doctor compared with Rose
- She will be a medical student
- Original concepts saw Martha as a lesbian and a Victorian maid.
- She is 23
- Mother Francine, father Clive, brother Leo and sister Tish
- Interview with the ONE Show

Captain Jack/John Barrowman
- He has signed the contract for this series
- He starts filming in October, Post-Torchwood
- He won't kiss David
- The Doctor won't neccesarily be glad Jack's back from the dead on his basic principles
- He might not instantly recognise the Doctor seeing as how he's regenerated
- There's something we don't know yet that he has to tell The Doctor
- The series 3 press release now says that he will only appear in the finale, but Russell has said he will be in 'multiple episodes'
- No explanation for the missing 2 years yet, Russel wants to wait until Steve Moffatt writes a Jack episode to explain this.
- It appears he will be in the last 4 episodes

Katy Manning
- According to an Outpost Gallifrey correspondent: "I witnessed Katy Manning (who played Jo Grant) perform in the one-woman play 'Jezebel and I' at the Mackay Entertainment Centre in Mackay, Queensland, Australia. Katy stopped to talk to four Doctor Who fans who turned up to see her show (myself included) and informed us that she would be guest starring in the third season of the new series. Katy said she would not be reprising her role as Jo Grant. I am unsure if she is playing Iris Wildthyme either as although she denied it would be Iris she is playing, she did say it in an Iris accent and in a very sarcastic tone. She would not give any more info!"

Guest starring...
Lucy Davenport, Tom Edden, Natasha Williams, Gayle Telfer Stevens, Daisy Lewis, Travis Oliver, Lenora Crichlow, Jennifer Hennessy, Bridget Turner, Georgine Anderson


Monsters and Villains
- The Judoon - a race of intergalactic stormtroopers - Rhinos
PICS HERE
- The Plasmavores - blood sucking aliens
- There will be NO Ice Warriors
- Two villains will return of which one will be quite surprising
- Giant crabs?
- Sea Devils?
- Sontarans?
- A book coming out in 2007 is called Sting of the Zygons by Stephen Cole...
- A race called The Carrionites have been confirmed by David Tennant

Times and places
- The Doctor and Martha in black suit and dress


Also this year

* A door is being added to the TARDIS console room leading to the rest of the TARDIS.
* There will be a Bad Wolf/Torchwood like story arc, possibly involving the word 'Saxon'
* "we go to Elizabethan England," "we go to the year 5 billion and 43," "distant planets, a distant spaceship," "There is a monster from Doctor Who's past that nobody will be expecting to see again - there's a little Newsround exclusive!"



Don't be afraid to say if I've forgotten something.

Lord Valumart
01-09-2007, 03:33 PM
http://www.action-figure.com/index.php?name=News&file=article&sid=20915

Some new ones, too. The clockwork cyborgs look great.
yeh, i'm sorta pissed about the new werewolf....:cmad:
the autons would freak me out- they are killer plastic in a plastic toy arrhhh...

for those who want all the spoilers so far and don't go to a certain who forum...


oh that sounds brilliant...

and autons are nothing to fear...just use your sonic lipstick:oldrazz:

regwec
01-09-2007, 03:34 PM
What's wrong with the new werewolf?

04nbod
01-09-2007, 03:35 PM
erm... does lip gloss count? not a fan of painting my lips bright red, green, blue etc

04nbod
01-09-2007, 03:36 PM
aren't werewolves hairier? the body is bald.

Lord Valumart
01-09-2007, 03:37 PM
What's wrong with the new werewolf?
i have the old one....
erm... does lip gloss count? not a fan of painting my lips bright red, green, blue etc

yeh sure...why not:cwink:

regwec
01-09-2007, 03:39 PM
i have the old one....
I can't see that the new one is any different. I think it may just be a re-release, as with the Doctor figures.

Lord Valumart
01-09-2007, 03:39 PM
aren't werewolves hairier? the body is bald.

if you look at the episode you see that it is actualy very close to the real one...plus it's a fricken toy werewolf...how acurate do you want it?

Lord Valumart
01-09-2007, 03:40 PM
I can't see that the new one is any different. I think it may just be a re-release, as with the Doctor figures.

if that was true why say "New Werewolf"?:huh:

regwec
01-09-2007, 03:46 PM
Search me. Toy companies are bats.

Lord Valumart
01-09-2007, 03:59 PM
ah well....12" ood is so cool...:woot:

if the werewolf is new then i'll buy it cause it'll be better than the one i curently have...with penis tail:csad:

04nbod
01-09-2007, 04:30 PM
if you look at the episode you see that it is actualy very close to the real one...plus it's a fricken toy werewolf...how acurate do you want it?

i like my werewolves hairy - they are wolves not chihuahuas :cmad:

Lord Valumart
01-10-2007, 12:36 PM
i like my werewolves hairy - they are wolves not chihuahuas :cmad:

...like your men:oldrazz: :woot:

04nbod
01-10-2007, 07:30 PM
yup i had that coming.:woot:

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IronLion
01-11-2007, 06:05 AM
the third series looks like it wil be a good one. anyone heard any rumours about who the returning villain will be. we know the daleks will be back, but who could they be using that they didnt use in the satan pit?

Manic
01-11-2007, 06:12 AM
I want to know what the continuing arc will be. We've already had the Bad Wolf mystery, and the many snafus of Torchwood. What now?

IronLion
01-11-2007, 06:14 AM
some thing to do with saxon

IronLion
01-11-2007, 06:16 AM
would be good if it was something to do with gallifrey, as it was mentioned in runaway bride. infact, the villain was someone from the timelords' history and they destroyed them. that sort of makes me think they will be mentioning them, more this year. also the facde of bo rumoured to say ' you are not alone' also makes me think of this. but this could mean.............................................. ...............................................
THE MASTER!

04nbod
01-11-2007, 10:02 AM
the tardis ate him- but in the runaway bride the doctor did say it was digesting like in the movie he said the tardis had indigestion afterwards. Maybe rose opening the tardis let the master out.

Lord Valumart
01-11-2007, 11:58 AM
surely if the master was let out of the TARDIS way back during POTW then he'd have been running around nacking things up by mid series 2...still...RTD is a moron...

Noir
01-11-2007, 04:15 PM
surely if the master was let out of the TARDIS way back during POTW then he'd have been running around nacking things up by mid series 2...still...RTD is a moron...


Even if he was let out he'd probably be dead because he'd need a new body.
I say they visit a Graveplanet, and the Tomb of the Konechei is there (masters real name) the Doctor and compaign open said tomb because its emitting a signal or something.. Master is alive, thanks to him latching his conscience to an Android or something.. Master fights Doctor, Doctor "Disables" him, master animates himself and escapes.:o
After that season the Doctor could trap the Master and rewire him alittle bit and we have Master Companaign like in Shalka. Then the master could plot how to get away.. again..

IronLion
01-11-2007, 05:44 PM
i'd still love to see the master, if he did escape, he can easily take over another body. or if the tardis has 'indegestion', they could put in somewhere that the tardis releases som 'gas' and burps/farts him out.......just a thought.

Noir
01-11-2007, 05:47 PM
i'd still love to see the master, if he did escape, he can easily take over another body. or if the tardis has 'indegestion', they could put in somewhere that the tardis releases som 'gas' and burps/farts him out.......just a thought.


I'm pretty sure the TARDIS has never needed to take a ****, I don't think it'll suddenly need to stop and use the little Multi-Dimensional Space Vessels room.. JK

Manic
01-11-2007, 05:50 PM
It probably drops all of its waste in the vortex, mid-travel.

IronLion
01-11-2007, 05:53 PM
just thinking, and i know it is going off on a tangent and has probably been mentioned before. the doctor, being of an alien origin, may not have the same functions as a human, but the campanions will need to use a loo. where does the waste go. is it a crazier version of what we have on aeroplanes??????

Noir
01-11-2007, 05:59 PM
It probably drops all of its waste in the vortex, mid-travel.


Rose: What is happening?
Doctor: *Eyebrows twitch* Ahh, the TARDIS is making business *Eyebrows slightly move* Should be done any second now and we'll be on our way again *Eyebrows twitch outward and return to normal stance*

IronLion
01-11-2007, 06:01 PM
while i was reading, i was imagining tennant doing it. hahahaha

Noir
01-11-2007, 06:02 PM
just thinking, and i know it is going off on a tangent and has probably been mentioned before. the doctor, being of an alien origin, may not have the same functions as a human, but the campanions will need to use a loo. where does the waste go. is it a crazier version of what we have on aeroplanes??????
The TARDIS is basicly infinite, so it probably goes to some crazy **** filled gym-sized room. Or, since the Eye of Harmony is a black hole maybe it just crushes the **** in the singlularity.

04nbod
01-11-2007, 08:30 PM
the tardis doesn't run off the eye of harmony anymore. As for the master its entirely possible he has been planning his comeback through series two- maybe as mister saxon.

Cyrusbales
01-12-2007, 08:38 AM
Any thoughts on what Bo's secret is?

04nbod
01-12-2007, 12:00 PM
apparently'you are not alone'

regwec
01-12-2007, 12:44 PM
Spoiler tags would have been appreciated.

04nbod
01-13-2007, 05:31 AM
not exactly a bombshell. its been spoke about openly for months now- but if you insist

Lord Valumart
01-13-2007, 08:11 AM
you know...everyone has been thinkingthat boes words are that, but what if it's not that but something totaly different? not abuot the Timelords but about an old enemy of the dr's...the one we don;t know is coming back...

yeh...i jsut noticed it makes no sense, but hey, i'm posting it anyhow...

04nbod
01-13-2007, 09:33 AM
that's why everyone is on the saxon is the master bandwagon i don't know though. The tardis ate him,does davies have the writing skill for a return:huh:

Lord Valumart
01-13-2007, 09:41 AM
to be 100% honest RTD's best work on the series has been Rose and then it was only cause he made the dr manic and had autons...his other stuff has always been just a tad out of place IMO.

give it ol' Marky...he'd do an awesome master comeback:woot:

Max Shrek
01-13-2007, 02:44 PM
My theory, partly based on your ideas: In Parting, when Rose opened the TARDIS up and absorbed the Time Vortex, it shook the entire thing up, chaos inside the TARDIS, and the Master somewhere deep inside the TARDIS, escaped. He found a body in modern Earth and possessed him. He then does the unthinkable... he gains power. Saxon is the Prime Minister (he is said to be leading "polls" in L&M, he gives the order to fire in TRB just like Harriet Jones did in TCI). Imagine that, the Master as the ruler of Great Britian. Brilliant.:D

Lord Valumart
01-13-2007, 02:47 PM
that sounds awful, couldn;t be worse than what we have now, but still.

anyhow, as soon as the master possesses a body it begins to die and decay since he's basicly killed it...so...fit that in mr cleaver clogs:huh:

Manic
01-13-2007, 03:04 PM
I have a wacky theory.

What if the Master escaped into Rose when she looked into the TARDIS? He then barely had enough time to realize he was in a new body before being forced to play musical chairs with Lady Cassandra and Rose, eventually piggy-backing with Cassandra into Chip's body. Then, as Cassandra died in Chip's body, the Master hopped into Cassandra's original body.

Lord Valumart
01-13-2007, 03:11 PM
wouldn't work manic.

in the 8th dr TVM the master took over bruce almost instantly killing him, thus the decaying body throughout the film. if he took over rose she'd be dead when he got out. plus the TARDIS moved between TCI and New Earth meaning off-screen adventures...

but nice idea though:up:

if only we had a proper timetine of dr/rose adventures we could stick a pin in and say "master pops out of tardis here!" and we'd all be happy. mind you he could have just been wantering around inside the tardis since TPOW, stumbling about in the dark during Rise, knocking over bins...i like that idea "confounded dr! always leaving bins laing arou...this isn't the bathroom. oh dr, you've changed the tardis around again!"

regwec
01-13-2007, 03:48 PM
not exactly a bombshell. its been spoke about openly for months now- but if you insist

I have had my head firmly in the sand for several months.

I would like Bo's last word to be "gazpacho".

Noir
01-13-2007, 04:33 PM
Opinions on this:



I say they visit a Graveplanet, and the Tomb of the Konechei is there (masters real name) the Doctor and compaign open said tomb because its emitting a signal or something.. Master is alive, thanks to him latching his conscience to an Android or something.. Master fights Doctor, Doctor "Disables" him, master animates himself and escapes.
After that season the Doctor could trap the Master and rewire him alittle bit and we have Master Companaign like in Shalka. Then the master could plot how to get away.. again..

04nbod
01-13-2007, 06:00 PM
I have had my head firmly in the sand for several months.

I would like Bo's last word to be "gazpacho".

i'm still holding out for 'deal or no deal':oldrazz:

DeFett
01-24-2007, 11:34 PM
Love that Avatar, Lord Valumart.

Mr. Thing
01-25-2007, 12:09 PM
Looks as if Who's got some great acting ahead... (http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/entertainment/6297661.stm)

Mister Sinister
01-25-2007, 12:35 PM
Don't forget who he played in Scream of the Shalka.

Lord Valumart
01-25-2007, 12:39 PM
Love that Avatar, Lord Valumart.

everyone loves it:woot:

regwec
01-25-2007, 01:00 PM
Jacobi is a great actor. This is good news- Davies had seemed far too preoccupied with the involvement of soap opera "stars" and other lightweights.

Lord Valumart
01-25-2007, 01:03 PM
are you suggesting Marc Warren is a lightweight?

regwec
01-25-2007, 01:11 PM
Yes, I think he's crap.

Lord Valumart
01-25-2007, 01:19 PM
then you good sir shall die:cmad:

regwec
01-25-2007, 01:35 PM
Why?

Lord Valumart
01-25-2007, 01:38 PM
cause Warren is awesome:huh:

regwec
01-25-2007, 01:41 PM
He leaves me unstirred. He managed to make Dracula bland, which should be impossible. And why would I die?

Lord Valumart
01-25-2007, 01:44 PM
you can't blame him for dracula, he was miscast, there was no way he'd be able to pull it off...anyhow...er...back to dr who...

GhostPoet
01-25-2007, 02:47 PM
Anyone know when the latest Whoo episodes come out on DVD? (the three packs)

I don't even know what to call it...Series 3? Season 3?

Mister Sinister
01-25-2007, 04:14 PM
If you're talking about New Beginnings, it's out Monday.

04nbod
01-26-2007, 06:11 AM
Don't forget who he played in Scream of the Shalka.

dont just dont...

he plays the professor which is a time lordish name but not the master- unless we get surprised

Mister Sinister
01-26-2007, 07:12 AM
http://www.bbc.co.uk/doctorwho/images/infinite.jpg

Wooohooo! Doctor Who the cartoon is coming!

04nbod
01-26-2007, 11:41 AM
martha having the hots for him is gonna be annoying i can feel it

and if they are gonna do a cartoon why do it about doctor 10 when we have him in live action why not do more with doc 8 and 9 who we had painfully little of.