The "New" Doctor Who

[regwec]

"The Dalek" has become one of my favorite Doctor Who episodes of all time. I thought the unusual approach to the Dalek- alone, and forced to use its own intelligence and cunning to facilitate its escape- was inspired, as was its character development. And Eccleston was great.

[pdb781]

i loved how the dalek commited suicide, with all those globes surrounding it. looked pretty spiffy.

[Lord Valumart]

but you said bruno langley was a good actor!!!

and the dalek had feelings, aaaaah....
i said for a soap.

thats where the acting talent is between 0 and 4(this being Bradly Walsh), concidering Doctor WHo should have actors of levels 8 and upwards.

[The Englishman]

I really want to know what happened in the Time War......I wonder if it was the 8th Doctor involved and he's the only one left because he regenerated into the 9th????

[regwec]

The Doctor might not have fought in the war at all. The Dalek claimed that the Doctor survived because he was a coward, and its words seemed to hit home.

[P. Cushing]

The speech to the Nestene in Rose seemed to imply that the Doctor was heavily involved.

[P. Cushing]

i loved how the dalek commited suicide, with all those globes surrounding it. looked pretty spiffy.
It resembled the way Earth was destroyed in Hitch-Hikers a bit.

[The Red Skull]

The Doctor might not have fought in the war at all. The Dalek claimed that the Doctor survived because he was a coward, and its words seemed to hit home.

Don't think so. Early on, the Doctor says he "watched it happen" (referring to the death of the Dalek fleet), followed immediately by the "I made it happen" outburst.

Can't get much clearer than that.

Anyone else think that Rose and the Doctor are going to end up at the time of the war in the season finale?

[regwec]

Anyone else think that Rose and the Doctor are going to end up at the time of the war in the season finale?
I had toyed with the idea, but I simply think it would be too expensive for the BBC to carry off convincingly. Unless they're on a single Dalek ship. Which would be immensely cool.

[The Englishman]

I wonder if The Doctors actions resulted in his own race being destroyed as well?????????

[Lord Valumart]

well, Englishman, they may have, but it is more likely that the Daleks killed the Time Lords, then the Doctor, the last time lord, killed "all" the Daleks.

[regwec]

Didn't the Doctor supposedly kill all of the Daleks first in The Genesis of the Daleks and then in Rememberance of the Daleks, anyway? We already know the Daleks will return in a later episode, so I have the impression that the Doctor is misled over what exactly happened in the Time War.

[P. Cushing]

Or he just goes back in time to when the Daleks were still alive. That's the great thing about time travel shows.

[regwec]

No, I don't think so, otherwise there would be no talk of the Doctor being the last Timelord, or the imprisoned Dalek being the last of its kind. The supposedly extinct Timelords would be crossing paths constantly as they travelled through time. No, I think it is implicit that both sides were completely erased from time and space.

[The Lizard]

Hooray for the Dalek! Take that, stairs!

http://img168.echo.cx/img168/2857/dalek9qj.jpg

http://img136.echo.cx/img136/9420/dalev7eu.jpg

[The Lizard]

Well P. Cushing I swear in one of the episodes Tom Baker gets strangled by one of the 'pure form' Darleks, but we never get to see its body just one those tentacle's ...

You are correct -- sort of.

In Genesis of the Daleks, the first ep with Davros, there was indeed a scene where a Dalek life form attacks Tom Baker, but it was a "proto-Dalek" that was more primitive than the later Dalek life-forms.

[Lord Valumart]

Hooray for the Dalek! Take that, stairs!

http://img168.echo.cx/img168/2857/dalek9qj.jpg

http://img136.echo.cx/img136/9420/dalev7eu.jpg
aparently it's always been able to climb stairs.

[WallCrawl]

You are correct -- sort of.

In Genesis of the Daleks, the first ep with Davros, there was indeed a scene where a Dalek life form attacks Tom Baker, but it was a "proto-Dalek" that was more primitive than the later Dalek life-forms.

I remember that. Good times...

[regwec]

They've been able to climb stairs since Rememberance of the Daleks, with Sylvester McCoy.

[Mr. Thing]

They've been able to climb stairs since Rememberance of the Daleks, with Sylvester McCoy.

Actually, since The Chase. Belive it or not. It was never seen but it was mentioned that they could.

[Lord Valumart]

i thought that was the first tome they were showen to climb stairs, and that it was emplyed from near the begining of when they first appeared?

[The Englishman]

What is the significance of "Bad Wolf"? It was graffitied on the side of the T.A.R.D.I.S in Aliens of London and was the name of Van Strattens Helicopter.......Any Ideas????

[P. Cushing]

It's the name of an episode later this season, so we'll find out then.

[The Red Skull]

No, I don't think so, otherwise there would be no talk of the Doctor being the last Timelord, or the imprisoned Dalek being the last of its kind. The supposedly extinct Timelords would be crossing paths constantly as they travelled through time. No, I think it is implicit that both sides were completely erased from time and space.

Which, in either a nice bit of continuity or sheer coincidence, was exactly what happened at the tail end of the Eighth Doctor novels.

Don't think the Daleks were involved, though...

[Mr. Thing]

Which, in either a nice bit of continuity or sheer coincidence, was exactly what happened at the tail end of the Eighth Doctor novels.

Don't think the Daleks were involved, though...

They were. They are in the last two eps in the series. Supposedly as Spider Daleks.

[Lord Valumart]

what the hell???

Spider Daleks??!!!

[Mr. Thing]

what the hell???

Spider Daleks??!!!

Not confirmed, but rumored that the daleks have an attachment where they fit in to a big thing with legs that looks like spiders.

For battle.

[regwec]

Cool. I'd like that, as long as it isn't a total replacement of their classic design.

[black_dust]

http://www.animosityonline.co.uk/hype/pegg.jpg

[Lord Valumart]

Chris is 41!!!

[WallCrawl]

Cool. I'd like that, as long as it isn't a total replacement of their classic design.

Sounds pretty badass to me. i'm picturing mechanical spider legs with the top half of the Dalek battle armor.

[The Red Skull]

Since we've already had "The Three Doctors" and "The Five Doctors", wouldn't it be great to see "The Four Doctors" in David Tennant's run? It could even quite handily reveal the Eighth Doctor's regeneration and/or revolve around one of the Seventh Doctor's master plans (oh, he was a schemer, that one).

The idea is probably unfeasable due to Chris Ecclestone's salary, but, still, it's nice to dream.

[Lord Valumart]

NOOOOO!!!!!!!

i won't be able to see it 2night:( i have visitors coming and thus it is "bad manners" to sit in another room and watch TV, or go on the computer, or ply the Gamecube, or leave them and go out on my Motorbike!!!!!!:mad:

[regwec]

Tonight's was pretty good, in my opinion. It was pretty hilarious the way the Doctor teased what's-his-face at the end by repeatedly opening up his brain.

[pdb781]

it was a great episode, but the bruno langley problem remains

[P. Cushing]

Since we've already had "The Three Doctors" and "The Five Doctors", wouldn't it be great to see "The Four Doctors" in David Tennant's run?
We could have a big 10 Doctors special with Ian Richardson as the 1st, David Suchet as the 2nd, Geoffrey Rush as the 3rd, Tom Baker as the 4th (he spends most of the story captured by the main villain and in shadow), Peter Davison as the 5th, Colin Baker as the 6th, Sylvester McCoy as the 7th, Paul McGann as the 8th, Chris Eccletson as the 9th and Dave Tennant as the 10th.

[Bat Brain]

Last nights episode was great, apparently next weeks episode will be the best yet. It looked great from the preview.

BTW, this is a question from a Doctor Who newcomer aka me. What is Bad Wolf? Is it something from previous series' of the show?

[The Red Skull]

We could have a big 10 Doctors special with Ian Richardson as the 1st, David Suchet as the 2nd, Geoffrey Rush as the 3rd, Tom Baker as the 4th (he spends most of the story captured by the main villain and in shadow), Peter Davison as the 5th, Colin Baker as the 6th, Sylvester McCoy as the 7th, Paul McGann as the 8th, Chris Eccletson as the 9th and Dave Tennant as the 10th.
Too unwieldy; Colin Baker's let himself go; Davison's too old; many fans wouldn't accept the first three Doctor substitutes (no matter how good the replacements); and the whole thing would have to take place in at least 4 episodes.

Nice idea, though. It'd probably be a lot of fun, too.

Actually, on that note, has anyone noticed the remarkable resemblance between the dad on that God-awful BBC sitcom "My Family" and Patrick Troughton? Robert Lindsey, or something similar.

BTW, this is a question from a Doctor Who newcomer aka me. What is Bad Wolf? Is it something from previous series' of the show?
It's a mystery to all of us, I'm afraid. Though, it's also - apparently - the name of this series' penultimate episode.

[Lord Valumart]

BTW, this is a question from a Doctor Who newcomer aka me. What is Bad Wolf? Is it something from previous series' of the show?
heres my theory on this "Bad Wolf" thing.

since it's appeared in episodes set in the present/future, i beleive that i may have something to do with an event in the past, and i....er....forget the rest:(

[Lighthouse]

Just saw the recent Confidential episode. Nice to see Davies will bring back the Master at some point. Its just a shame we won't get to see Eccelston face him.(Unless Davies has a surprise for us.)

[The Englishman]

When did he say he would bring back the Master????

[P. Cushing]

He didn't. He said someone probably will at some point.
I was destined to be disappointed after the superb DALEK, but THE LONG GAME is worse than I thought it would be. The Doctor's an unlikeable git, acting like a sexually frustrated horny teenager and making snide comments about Rose and Adam, Simon Pegg hamming it up as the Editor (he was possessed by Tony Ainley) and the whole episode was a virtual rehash of The End of the World, but without the great moments between the Doctor and the lead good female guest star.
On the plus side, I liked the jabs at Fox News, the direction and the throwback to the Gary Williams era.

[regwec]

The Editor-in-Chief was a very good alien, too.

[The Englishman]

Yeah it was a dissapointing Rehash of The End of the World,it even had the Face of boa in it. I Also thought Simon Pegg was wasted in this role, he would have made a good Master????.........

[Lord Valumart]

When did he say he would bring back the Master????
i have, in the fan fics in my sig, read it and it will prove to you, the master lives!!

[P. Cushing]

How does everyone think the Doctor's gonna cark it in the Xmas special?
I'm opting for:

The DALEKS approach the DOCTOR. The DOCTOR folds his arms across his chest.
DOCTOR: Whatcha gonna do? Exterminate me?

[regwec]

I think he might die defending Rose. There relationship is being played up a lot, and it would be a fitting conclusion.

[Lighthouse]

Just read this at Filmforce.
http://filmforce.ign.com/articles/613/613152p1.html

First and foremost, I'd like to take this opportunity to flip the bird to the MPAA, for overstepping their authority....again. F**k you MPAA.

Second, I'm a little worried about these decisions being made by the BBC. I'm getting scared that history is going to repeat itself with Doctor Who.

[Lethal Venom]

Todays episode was great! :)

[Lord Valumart]

2nights ep seamed to be very short. it started and then sort of ended, with no middle bit, little happend.

[Lighthouse]

2nights ep seamed to be very short. it started and then sort of ended, with no middle bit, little happend.
One of the drawbacks from the 45 minute format. The episodes are good, but I always feel like I needed a little more.

[Lord Valumart]

they need to extend it to an hour for Davids Doctor.

[regwec]

They need to remove David for David's Doctor. ;)

[Bat Brain]

Did anyone read the plot for ''Bad Wolf'', the penultimate episode of the series? Basically, the Doctor and Rose travel to some kind of TV world. The Doctor ends up in the Big Brother house and Rose is on The Weakest Link (presented by Anne Droid ;) ) Sounds very weird. :D

[P. Cushing]

Father's Day was excellent. I hope RTD doesn't write any episodes next season, because the other writers' episodes have been head and shoulders about his.

[Lethal Venom]

Father's Day was excellent. I hope RTD doesn't write any episodes next season, because the other writers' episodes have been head and shoulders about his.Tonights episode is said to be the scariest of them all http://www.superherohype.com/forums/images/smilies/smile.gif

[Bat Brain]

I can't believe I missed last weeks episode :mad:
I'm actually thinking that tonights episode could be the best yet.

Episode Nine
THE EMPTY CHILD
London, 1941, at the height of the Blitz. A mysterious cylinder is being guarded by the army, while homeless children, living on the bombsites, are being terrorised by an unearthly child.

http://www.superherohype.com/forums/attachment.php?attachmentid=1502&stc=1

BTW, it's on at 6.30 instead of the usual 7.00. Jus incase anyone forgets. ;)

[Lord Valumart]

no, i might miss it:(

[regwec]

That was seriously creepy...Mummy...

[The Red Skull]

Great episode.

Genuinely creepy, too.

[Lord Valumart]

damn two parter.

VERY creepy, you'd think after 900 years the Doctor wouldn't open the door to something everyone around him is frightend of.

[Bat Brain]

What an episode. Definitely one of the best yet. That scene where Doctor Constantines face turned into the gas mask was very cool :up:

[ETHERSPIN]

which episode brings the new doctor actor in ??

[regwec]

I think it will be the Christmas special. Looks like Billie is quitting along with Eccleston.

[ETHERSPIN]

I think it will be the Christmas special. Looks like Billie is quitting along with Eccleston.

DAMMIT! she was great.. i was keen to see someone other than eccleston.. while i think he is good i dont think he has that doctor who vibe, he's too everyman

[Lord Valumart]

actualy i think Billie signed upp for a second series, as did most of the people who were in the first episode, her mum and boy friend, to be exact.

[regwec]

Apparently she will appear in "a few" episodes of series 2. No more.

[Lord Valumart]

so she'll probaly travel with David in the first few eps, leave and a new assistant will arrive in the next ep?

[regwec]

I think that's the idea.

[WallCrawl]

I think that's the idea.

Pity. I rather liked her. :(

[Lord Valumart]

yeh, "lovely bottom"

[WallCrawl]

yeh, "lovely bottom"

I enjoyed her lips which were practically constantly parted.

[Lord Valumart]

she has weird hair, it like shes just come out of a hay bail

[regwec]

You will no doubt see her bottom, lips and (hopefully improved) hair in films soon. That's certainly her ambition.

[Lord Valumart]

well, if if goes bad well see lots more of her, but if it goes well, she will go among some B listers in the states.

[WEB OF SPIDEY]

Apparently she will appear in "a few" episodes of series 2. No more.
They did that in the old series aswell the companion was only with the Doctor for just over a year then changed, only rare ones stayed for years

[Lord Valumart]

2nd part tonight, should be good.

[regwec]

In six minutes, no less!

[Lord Valumart]

four now,no, three, better get the tape ready.....

but it shoule rule

[The Red Skull]

I don't know about you lot, but I thought that episode was f***in' brilliant.

[Lord Valumart]

yeh it was brilliant!!!

the slithen(or how ever you spell it) are back next week, so cool!!!

[Lethal Venom]

yeh it was brilliant!!!

the slithen(or how ever you spell it) are back next week, so cool!!!I can't wait :)

[Mr. Thing]

Bananas. I like bananas. Bananas are good.

[regwec]

I thought the resolution to last week's cliff hanger was great.

[Mr. Thing]

MAJOR SPOILERS!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

Last episode: Parting Of The Ways




























































Dalek army
http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v210/tdk1987/moredaleks.jpg

Hologram of doctor telling rose he's going to die.
http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v210/tdk1987/DoctorWhologram.jpg

Dalek Saucers
http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v210/tdk1987/daleks.jpg

[Hollow Wood Director]

OMG!!!! Amazing pictures! This is everything I had hoped for, and more.

[Bat Brain]

Dalek Army?!?!? I can't wait. :D

BTW, the Cybermen will be appearing in the second series of Doctor Who

Check out this site for theories on what ''Bad Wolf'' is: http://www.badwolf.org.uk

[Lord Valumart]

Bad Wolf = Anndriod Robinson.

[Bat Brain]

Bad Wolf = Anndriod Robinson.
Are you serious??? Is that a guess?

[regwec]

The Bad Wolf reference in this week's was crazy. Lame episode otherwise, but there are Dalek's in the next one!

[Lord Valumart]

Are you serious??? Is that a guess?
well, what ever is controlling her, the house and Trini and Susana is Bad Wolf.

thats my opinion on the matter.

[Bat Brain]

Ah, now I getcha. It's a good opinion. Although, there are some interesting theories on that site above.

[Lord Valumart]

it is possible that it is Rose, since she won't be in the next series, and leaves after the Dalek thing.

but it dosen't really explain much of why it showed us most of the stuff but the Doctor only noticed it just now.

my mum freaked when i guessed what he was going to say tonight.

[CloneTrooper]

Maybe its one of the people whos been in the tardis after all the Tardis is alive its said in the epidoe tonight maybe it changed one of the crew it did change the Sliveen.

[Lord Valumart]

if it has changed any one it would be Micky or Adam.

[regwec]

Maybe the yankee Captain turns out to be The Master, or The Meddling Monk. The latter is more consitent with his character.

[Lethal Venom]

I can't wait for next week hehe half Weakest Link half big brother :) it looks so great!

[Lord Valumart]

Maybe the yankee Captain turns out to be The Master, or The Meddling Monk. The latter is more consitent with his character.
Davis did say he was bringing back the Master(click sig if you want my version, and comment goddamnit)so it is possible, but i highly doubt it, he seams to have done to many helpful things.

and are we alowed to say yankee??

[black_dust]

This weeks one was pretty weak really. cant wait for next weeks though :D

[Lord Valumart]

it was better than fathers day, pile o' crap that that was.

[Super_Child]

I think every episode has been brilliant and I can't wait for the next! :D

[Lord Valumart]

have any of you clicked on the link in my sig?

[The Red Skull]

have any of you clicked on the link in my sig?

I'm impressed. Particularly by your pacing; there are plenty of published authors out there who don't recognise the underlying importance of rythmn to a story.

There's a Doctor Who magazine, isn't there? Do they do short stories? Come up with a clever idea for a past Doctor and, well, who knows?

Keep up the good work.

Now, as to "Boomtown" - I don't see what the fuss is all about. I found it an interesting little character-piece with excellent acting from everyone involved. It was tight, self-contained and suitably refreshing for something set to be sandwiched between two explosive two-parters.

In fact, my only real complaint was the unashamedly deus ex machina nature of the ending. The same could be said of "The Doctor Dances", true, but we were afforded a little foreshadowing in that episode. However, the resolution seemed fitting enough and I was thoroughly entertained.

There'll be plenty of time for fireworks next week, folks. Nothing wrong with a little diversity.

[Hollow Wood Director]

Davis did say he was bringing back the Master(click sig if you want my version, and comment goddamnit)so it is possible, but i highly doubt it, he seams to have done to many helpful things.

and are we alowed to say yankee??


It's not censored so I guess you can. Personally I don't have a problem with it since Americans call me a Limey over here, and I don't take offence to that.

[Lord Valumart]

I'm impressed. Particularly by your pacing; there are plenty of published authors out there who don't recognise the underlying importance of rythmn to a story.

There's a Doctor Who magazine, isn't there? Do they do short stories? Come up with a clever idea for a past Doctor and, well, who knows?

Keep up the good work.
cool, you liked it:D

yeh theres a Doctor Who mag, i keep meaning to pick it up, but people say it will be the last step into becoming a fanboy geek.

[regwec]

One day you'll stop caring, and then experience a huge rush of euphoric liberation.

[Lord Valumart]

well, i stoped caring about the UFF comics, so next time i'm in town i'll try and pick it up, along with some Doctor Who DVD's

[P. Cushing]

Any Big Finish fans here?

[Lord Valumart]

er....no.

any way the reason for bumping this thread:

can some one recomend some good DVD's of the old series to get?

[Bat Brain]

http://www.bbc.co.uk/doctorwho/

Check out the website. It's hilarious

[P. Cushing]

can some one recomend some good DVD's of the old series to get?
Spearhead from Space
The Aztecs
The Caves of Ardozani
The Ark in Space
and many more...

[Lethal Venom]

http://www.bbc.co.uk/doctorwho/

Check out the website. It's hilarioushaha it's the best :)

[Lord Valumart]

http://news.bbc.co.uk/sport1/hi/tennis/us_open_2003/tardis_tennis/default.stm

/\TARDIS tennis/\

[Lethal Venom]

LOL great! :)

And I can't wait for tonights episode on Game Station with the doctor in Big Brother,Rose on Weakest Link and Captian Jack on What not to wear. and the Daleks are back too! :):)

[Lord Valumart]

evreythings comin up Doctor!!!!!

well, most things

[Lord Valumart]

IT'S GOT TO BE THE MASTER!!!!!

oh, and 2nights ep=:up::up::up::up:

[Mr. Thing]

Emperor Dalek next week!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

"THEY SURVIVE THROUGH ME!"

[Lord Valumart]

i'm now dead, FYI.

[regwec]

That was absolutely awesome, after a slow start. I love the Daleks actually being scared half to death of The Doctor.

[The Red Skull]

Davros, maybe?

[regwec]

Didn't sound like Davros to me, but not impossible, I suppose.

[Bat Brain]

One word: WOW!!

Great episode, even greater ending. I'm so psyched for next weeks episode.

[Lethal Venom]

Davros, maybe?I think it was! :):) and I hope the Daleks somehow come back for the christmas special or the 2nd series :)

[Lord Valumart]

Davros???

that the dude with the bottom half Dalek and the top half mangled human?

[Lord Valumart]

I think it was! :):) and I hope the Daleks somehow come back for the christmas special or the 2nd series :)
the Cybermen should be in the X-mas special, that would be so cool!!!!!

*geeks out*

[Bat Brain]

Is Christopher Eccleston signed up for the X-mas Special?

[Lethal Venom]

They haven't had many classic villains so far which has been in past series except for the daleks and perhapsDavros..all the other's are new. So...defiently more old classic villains needed villains

[Lord Valumart]

Is Christopher Eccleston signed up for the X-mas Special?
yeh, the nith doctor dies(if not at the end of this series then near the start of the X-mas special)then becomes the tenth(David:rolleyes: )

[regwec]

Hopefully David Tennant's involvement is just a big hoax.

[Lord Valumart]

there hasn't had an offical press release to say he IS the tenth doctor, has there?

but chris did sayy he was quitting, so, he must get out of the Dalek situation.......

*ponders thought*

[regwec]

The BBC announced it themselves. After Chris left, they announced that Tennant was "already the frontrunner" to succeed (wtf?). They then had an online poll of who people wanted as the next Doctor, in which Tennant came last. A week later, the BBC cheerfully announced that we would damn well take Tennant and like him.

I have no doubt that Davies had Tennant lined up for the role for months.

[Lord Valumart]

who came first?

[regwec]

I think it was either Richard E Grant or Bill Nighy, but I don't remember clearly.

[Mr. Thing]

Davros, maybe?

The voice was way too Daleky. Ever heard any of the Big Finish Dalek stories? The meperor in them sounds just like the one in the trailer. Plus the Doctor was looking up. The Emperor's tall.

[Lady Stormcrow]

Hello! This is my first visit to the Doctor Who thread. It may well be my last too, because I dont really like the new guy they've got lined up, but I think Christopher Eccleston did an amazing job. Thats my little bit over, Ill post again when I get what your all on about. :p

Im now going to go and cry in my pillow because the series is nearly over.

[Lethal Venom]

Hello! This is my first visit to the Doctor Who thread. It may well be my last too, because I dont really like the new guy they've got lined up, but I think Christopher Eccleston did an amazing job. Thats my little bit over, Ill post again when I get what your all on about. :p

Im now going to go and cry in my pillow because the series is nearly over.welcome. I think Christopher Eccelston did a great job too :( so the new doctor which I forgot his name :eek: will have to do a pretty good job to try to be better than him

[Lord Valumart]

David was good in that thing he was in on Beeb 3, but he is no doctor.

[Lady Stormcrow]

He definitly too young. I guess the BBc chose him because they're aiming it at a young audience, but I dont think It'll work.

[Mr. Thing]

I've bumped into David a few times in Paisley. Nice guy.

Now you must like him because he's a scot.

Plus what d'you think this is from? http://www.superherohype.com/forums/images/smilies/wink.gif
http://hclairezone.tripod.com/david/davidbillie.JPG

[Mr. Thing]

He definitly too young. I guess the BBc chose him because they're aiming it at a young audience, but I dont think It'll work.

Same age as Peter Davison was when he started. Davison's still my favourite Doctor.

[The Red Skull]

Too young? The man's 34.

That, and if anyone's seen either Blackpool or Casanova they know he's a cracking actor. It helps that he's a real fan as well. And, being as he is, largely an unknown, more money is likely to be spent on the show as opposed to his paycheque.

I think he'll make an excellent Doctor.

[Mr. Thing]

Too young? The man's 34.

That, and if anyone's seen either Blackpool or Casanova they know he's a cracking actor. It helps that he's a real fan as well. And, being as he is, largely an unknown, more money is likely to be spent on the show as opposed to his paycheque.

I think he'll make an excellent Doctor.

I love you.

[The Red Skull]

I love you.

I know.

[Lord Valumart]

ok, i'm scared.

but the unknowenness of David does let them make the FX better.

BRING BACK THE CYBERMEN!!!!!!

[Lethal Venom]

ok, i'm scared.

but the unknowenness of David does let them make the FX better.

BRING BACK THE CYBERMEN!!!!!!Hell yeah!! :)

and The Master :( I miss him

[Mr. Thing]

ok, i'm scared.

but the unknowenness of David does let them make the FX better.

BRING BACK THE CYBERMEN!!!!!!

Don't worry, they're back. In an episode rumored to be named "The Satan Pit" (a two parter)

[Lord Valumart]

Hell yeah!! :)

and The Master :( I miss him
read my damn fan fic:mad:


joy about the two parter thingy, will it have the advanced desgins or the old "we're wearing tinfoil and washing up bottles on our heads" Cybermen?

[Mr. Thing]

read my damn fan fichttp://www.superherohype.com/forums/images/smilies/mad.gif


joy about the two parter thingy, will it have the advanced desgins or the old "we're wearing tinfoil and washing up bottles on our heads" Cybermen?


No one knows yet



Other rumours are that the Christmas special will be like a Christmas Carol and will Star Paul McGann, Chris Eccleston and David Tennant.

[Lord Valumart]

yeh, Paul should come back.

it's obvious that the movie was meant to spark a new series.

[regwec]

if anyone's seen either Blackpool or Casanova they know he's a cracking actor.
Yeah, he was both irritating and ineffectual in both. :up: The Scottish accent isn't going to help matters, either, unless they can come up with an extremely good explanation for the change (vis. better than "lots of planets have a North").

The picture above is a disappointment. It seems that Tennant has been cast as a sort of pale immitation of Chris. It's obvious that Chris outclasses him, so they would do better to just take the next Doctor down a different path. It's a relief that Tennant didn't get his way in giving the Doctor a kilt, however...

[The Red Skull]

Yeah, he was both irritating and ineffectual in both. http://www.superherohype.com/forums/images/smilies/icon14.gif The Scottish accent isn't going to help matters, either, unless they can come up with an extremely good explanation for the change (vis. better than "lots of planets have a North").

Opinions aside, we've never needed an especially good explanation for why the Doctor's changed personality, accent, etc. before so why start now? He's regenerated. He's got a Scottish accent. Deal with it. Hell, Sylvester McCoy rolled his R's for all they were worth.

The picture above is a disappointment. It seems that Tennant has been cast as a sort of pale immitation of Chris. It's obvious that Chris outclasses him, so they would do better to just take the next Doctor down a different path. It's a relief that Tennant didn't get his way in giving the Doctor a kilt, however...

Oh, come on. You're basing the above critique on a single photograph? One taken out of the context of any kind of plot information? For all we know, due to the events of his regeneration the Doctor hasn't had any time to change.

[Lord Valumart]

thats most likey from a sceane shortly after a regeneration, they all wear the prevoius doctors clothes for a while after the regenerations.

[Lady Stormcrow]

Okay, You lot have brought me round to be hopeful that this new guy will be good. I will now look forward to his run on the series, because you all said he'd be okay, and Ill defend him infront of sceptics who doubt him. So if its dissapointing, Itll be all your faults :p

[Lord Valumart]

i'll take full responcibility for this, if David is a bad Doctor, then it is my fault

the above statement is faulse
the bove staement isn't true

[Lady Stormcrow]

i'll take full responcibility for this, if David is a bad Doctor, then it is my fault

the above statement is faulse
the bove staement isn't true

Fine, Ill come for you *points finger* Lord Valumart. And Ill come to Exterminate

[Lord Valumart]

ARRHHH!!!!

no, wait, oooo, how cute...

or something.

[Lady Stormcrow]

hehe. Ah, you forced me to use the 'E' word. You may feel side effects of confusion. Oh wait, you already did.

[Lord Valumart]

you relise you are like, the coolest person i've ever chatted to?

back to this confusion:

er...yes!

[regwec]

Hey, I'm as eager as anyone for Tennant to prove me wrong. I'm just annoyed that he was cast apparently without anyone else auditioning, and I'm annoyed because I personally find something about him really irritating. I think comparing him to McCoy is pretty faint praise, too. ;)

Still, of course I hope he nails it.

[Lady Stormcrow]

you relise you are like, the coolest person i've ever chatted to?


Thanks! You know, Im getting quite attatched to you too. You seem like the male version of me, which is very cool.

Still, of course I hope he nails it.
I hope hes good too, though I have to admit, I still have teeny doubts. It's gonna take one hell of a Doctor to fill Eccleston's shoes.

[Lord Valumart]

Thanks! You know, Im getting quite attatched to you too. You seem like the male version of me, which is very cool.
yeh, thats sort of what scared me when you said you liked Monty Python

I hope hes good too, though I have to admit, I still have teeny doubts. It's gonna take one hell of a Doctor to fill Eccleston's shoes.
so true, my mum love Chris as the Doctor, but most of these kids to day won't know that he's on of many regenerations of the same person.

[The Red Skull]

I think comparing him to McCoy is pretty faint praise, too. ;)

Indeed. Just wanted to point out that the Scottish accent isn't entirely without precedent.

[Lord Valumart]

McCoy was shot, the Doctor should be killed by Cybermen, or some other classic villian, not shot by some gang.

it was an insult to him to have him shot.

[Lady Stormcrow]

I wonder how this doctor will die. My bet's on he'll get killed by the daleks. The preview of the next episode looked awesome.

[Lord Valumart]

i nope he gets killed by some classic villian, not the Daleks, they've killed him to many times.

[Lady Stormcrow]

Well, from the preview it looks like you're going to be dissapointed then. sowee

[Lord Valumart]

yeh, but he's escaped more horrible situations, so he may be able to escape this.

it would be so cool if the voice was the Master, i'd geek out until i died if it was.

[Lady Stormcrow]

it would be so cool if the voice was the Master, i'd geek out until i died if it was.

Hee hee, geek out. Thats nearly as good as geekgasm.

[Lord Valumart]

it's the best thing to come out of the I********.

[Lady Stormcrow]

Its wierd that I realised you were on about the unoriginals.

[Lord Valumart]

yeh, i prefer to use Geek out than Geekgasm, the later makes people sound like women.

Back to the Doctor.......

the new film, where his assistant travel thought time ti find the correct Doctor, yeh it's a bad movie:(

[Lady Stormcrow]

Theres a new doctor who film? Im confused. I thought there was just the one about Daleks.

[The Red Skull]

i nope he gets killed by some classic villian, not the Daleks, they've killed him to many times.

I don't think they've managed to kill him once yet.

EDIT: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/The_Doctor_%28Doctor_Who%29

And there ya go.

[Lord Valumart]

i beleive theres three, two Dalek ones, one of which has some one different plying the Doctor, then the Paul one from 96, the was obviously intended to start off the series again.

my previous post was jibbering crap.

[Mr. Thing]

Yeah, he was both irritating and ineffectual in both. :up: The Scottish accent isn't going to help matters, either, unless they can come up with an extremely good explanation for the change (vis. better than "lots of planets have a North").

The picture above is a disappointment. It seems that Tennant has been cast as a sort of pale immitation of Chris. It's obvious that Chris outclasses him, so they would do better to just take the next Doctor down a different path. It's a relief that Tennant didn't get his way in giving the Doctor a kilt, however...

Got you didn't I! It's not from the next series. Billie and David just had lunch. :p

[Mr. Thing]

i nope he gets killed by some classic villian, not the Daleks, they've killed him to many times.

The Doctor has never been killed by the Daleks. This will be the first time.

History of Regenerations

Ist - 2nd: The Doctor simply got to old for that body
2nd - 3rd: It was forced by the Time-Lords
3rd - 4th: He got radiation sickness
4th - 5th: He fell off a tower
5th - 6th: He got poisoned
6th - 7th: He (honestly) bumped his head on the TARDIS console
7th - 8th: Got shot
8th - 9th: Unknown (described in the last Eighth Doctor book)
9th - 10th: Probably killed by the Daleks.

[Lord Valumart]

wow, the 6th - 7th seams a bit forced, stuck for ideas were they, well, thats the pre90's beeb for ya.

[Mr. Thing]

First Doctor: William Hartnell
http://www.answers.com/main/content/wp/en/thumb/9/9a/200px-Hartnellwilliam.jpg
Era: 1963 - 1966
First story: An Unearthly Child
Last story: The Tenth Planet

Second Doctor: Patrick Troughton
http://www.patricktroughton.com/PTDCdedication/PatsHead.jpg
Era: 1966 - 1969
First Story: The Power Of The Daleks
Last Story: The War Games

Third Doctor: Jon Pertwee
http://www.zetaminor.com/images/dvd_review_images/dw_green_death/dw_green_005.jpg
Era: 1970 - 1974
First Story: Spearhead From Space
Last Story: Planet Of The Spiders

Fourth Doctor: Tom Baker
http://www.mythfolklore.net/mywiki/images/tom_baker_main_350x250.jpg
Era: 1974 - 1981
First Story: Robot
Last Story: Logopolis

http://wheelinspace.com/images/DoctorsImages/Doc5.jpg
Fifth Doctor: Peter Davison

Era: 1981 - 1984
First Story: Castrovalva
Last Story: The Caves Of Androzani

[Mr. Thing]

Sixth Doctor: Colin Baker
http://www.tnelson.demon.co.uk/cult/images/colin_baker.jpg
Era: 1984 - 1986
First Story: The Twin Dilemma
Last Story: The Ultimate Foe

Seventh Doctor: Sylvester McCoy
http://www.firstfoot.com/geneolagy/images/sylvestermccoy.jpg
Era: 1987 - 1996
First Story: Time And The Rani
Last Story: The Enemy Within (aka The TV movie)

Eighth Doctor: Paul McGann
http://www.bbc.co.uk/bristol/content/features/2003/02/19/paul_mcgann.jpg
Era: 1996 - 2005
First Story: The Enemy Within (aka The TV Movie)
Last Story: The Gallifrey Chronicles (Book)

Ninth Doctor: Christopher Eccleston
http://www.bbc.co.uk/doctorwho/images/hex/bigchrishex.gif
Era: 2005
First Story: Rose
Last Story: The Parting Of The Ways (TBC)

Tenth Doctor: David Tennant
http://www.relativedimensions.co.uk/davidtennant.jpg
Era: 2006 -
First Story: (TBC)
Last Story: (TBC)

[The Red Skull]

Nicely done. However, the last appearance of the Eighth Doctor is actually "The Gallifrey Chronicles" published, oh, about a fortnight ago by BBC books.

Doesn't have actually have a regeneration scene, though. Sets it up, but ultimately doesn't follow through.

[Lady Stormcrow]

Lmao! The 6th one bumped his head on the TARDIS! aww.
And god bless ye Tom Baker and your really cool dress sense. (My friends have the nerve to say I look like him :down , just because my hair's curly)

[Lord Valumart]

it's not a bad thing to look like the Doctor, unless, like yourself your female.....er.....OK, i'm sorry:(

[regwec]

It's not a bad thing to look like the doctor unless you look like Jon Pertwee.

[Hollow Wood Director]

i beleive theres three, two Dalek ones, one of which has some one different plying the Doctor, then the Paul one from 96, the was obviously intended to start off the series again.

my previous post was jibbering crap.


That is correct.

Dalek's Invasion Earth 2150 A.D. ( 1966 )
Dr Who And The Daleks ( 1965 )

Both films were theatrical releases, and starred the great, and late Peter Cushing. ( Grand Moff Tarkin to some of you younger people )

Doctor Who starring Paul McGann was a TV Movie which was released in 1996

[Lord Valumart]

That is correct.

Dalek's Invasion Earth 2150 A.D. ( 1966 )
Dr Who And The Daleks ( 1965 )

Both films were theatrical releases, and starred the great, and late Peter Cushing. ( Grand Moff Tarkin to some of you younger people )

Doctor Who starring Paul McGann was a TV Movie which was released in 1996
i thought only one had Tarkin in it. oh well, i was out by a wee bit.

[The Lizard]

That is correct.

Dalek's Invasion Earth 2150 A.D. ( 1966 )
Dr Who And The Daleks ( 1965 )

Both films were theatrical releases, and starred the great, and late Peter Cushing. ( Grand Moff Tarkin to some of you younger people )

Doctor Who starring Paul McGann was a TV Movie which was released in 1996

Check your PMs, HWD....or else........"Ex-ter-min-ATE!" ;)

[Mr. Thing]

Nicely done. However, the last appearance of the Eighth Doctor is actually "The Gallifrey Chronicles" published, oh, about a fortnight ago by BBC books.

Doesn't have actually have a regeneration scene, though. Sets it up, but ultimately doesn't follow through.

Thanks :) :up:

I knew it was Gallifrey something!

[P. Cushing]

i thought only one had Tarkin in it.
His name isn't Tarkin! It's Doctor Sherlock Van Helsingstein!

[Lady Stormcrow]

it's not a bad thing to look like the Doctor, unless, like yourself your female.....er.....OK, i'm sorry:(

I dont look to much like him.....:rolleyes:
Nah, its just that we both have curly hair, but mines much longer. I think it was said in a moment of madness when I was wearing a long scarf.

[Lord Valumart]

cool...er...ish?

anyhow, i can do a good Tom Baker impersination, not that i can prove it.....

[Lady Stormcrow]

I love Tom Bakers voice, I dont know why. My friends do too.

[Hollow Wood Director]

Check your PMs, HWD....or else........"Ex-ter-min-ATE!" ;)


Oops! :)

I'll try, and write back sometime tonight Liz!

[Hollow Wood Director]

cool...er...ish?

anyhow, i can do a good Tom Baker impersination, not that i can prove it.....

1.2.3....Want a Jelly Baby? Ahhh!

[Mr. Thing]

http://i6.photobucket.com/albums/y248/Richard_Sabrina/CE-DTcover.jpg

[Lady Stormcrow]

Cool picture! I think Im warming up to the new face of doctor who.

[regwec]

Is the girl on the left the new assistant?

[Mr. Thing]

Is the girl on the left the new assistant?

Michelle McMuffin? I ****in' hope not.

[regwec]

No, the one next to Chris.

[Lord Valumart]

see Chris on Top Gear?

now, that beards scarrier than Daleks!!!!!

[Lord Valumart]

No, the one next to Chris.
er.....thats David.

[Mr. Thing]

No, the one next to Chris.

:down

Who knows he might be a good Doctor. Don't judge until you've seen Parting Of The Ways.

[regwec]

He might be great, and I really hope he is. But he does look a little bit like a teenaged girl there.

[Lady Stormcrow]

I told all of ye he looked young!!

[Lord Valumart]

yeh, he looks a bit, thingy, er, gay, thats the word, but the beard on Chris, now thats weird!!!

[Lady Stormcrow]

You can see all the previews here. I bet this has already been posted though.:

http://www.bbc.co.uk/doctorwho/video/index.shtml

[Lord Valumart]

I told all of ye he looked young!!
he looked beeb three thing where he's french.

[Lady Stormcrow]

he was in that Casanova thing. I never watched it, though I heard he was a great actor in it.

[Hollow Wood Director]

yeh, he looks a bit, thingy, er, gay, thats the word, but the beard on Chris, now thats weird!!!

Gay? There's a gay look? What is this gay look you talk about?

[Lord Valumart]

he was in that Casanova thing. I never watched it, though I heard he was a great actor in it.
yeh, he was a great actor, but nowt like Chirs.

[Lord Valumart]

Gay? There's a gay look? What is this gay look you talk about?
a grown man looking like a teenage girl, thats the gay look.

[regwec]

Gay? There's a gay look? What is this gay look you talk about?
In an inverted sense, there is a kind of 'gay look'. It can be measured by the amount of interferance someone would be subjected to in a prison shower.

[Hollow Wood Director]

a grown man looking like a teenage girl, thats the gay look.


So you mean he looks effeminate?

1 : Having feminine qualities untypical of a man : not manly in appearance or manner
2 : Marked by an unbecoming delicacy or overrefinement.

[Lord Valumart]

So you mean he looks effeminate?

1 : Having feminine qualities untypical of a man : not manly in appearance or manner
2 : Marked by an unbecoming delicacy or overrefinement.
yeh, the first one, but i'm scottish, he's scottish, he knows it's all a joke:)

[Lady Stormcrow]

Will the new doctor still have the sonic screwdriver?

[Lord Valumart]

Will the new doctor still have the sonic screwdriver?
yeh, you want him to save the universe from Zygons, Cybermen and The Master, not be traped in a toilet cubical.

[Hollow Wood Director]

yeh, the first one, but i'm scottish, he's scottish, he knows it's all a joke:)


Anyways you guys are very comfortable with your sexuality especially since the traditional dress is for men to wear a skirt. ( Kilt ) :up:

I've never seen David Tennant act so I'm wondering how good he is.

[Bat Brain]

Is Tennant appearing in ''The Parting Of The Ways''?

[Lord Valumart]

Anyways you guys are very comfortable with your sexuality especially since the traditional dress is for men to wear a skirt. ( Kilt ) :up:

I've never seen David Tennant act so I'm wondering how good he is.
the Kilt rules all form of lower clothing!!!

David's a good actor, don't worry, he may not be as good as Chris, but he's still good.

[Lord Valumart]

Is Tennant appearing in ''The Parting Of The Ways''?
don't think so, it was filmed before he was announced as the tenth doctor

[Lady Stormcrow]

the Kilt rules all form of lower clothing!!!

David's a good actor, don't worry, he may not be as good as Chris, but he's still good.

Chris sure is a tough act to follow. His acting was great when he thought Rose was dead in the last episode.

[Bat Brain]

don't think so, it was filmed before he was announced as the tenth doctor
So the X-mas special will probably be his debut?

[Hollow Wood Director]

the Kilt rules all form of lower clothing!!!

David's a good actor, don't worry, he may not be as good as Chris, but he's still good.


The Kilt does indeed rule all forms of lower clothing! :D

Yeah, it won't be the same without Chris but that happens everytime we get used to a Doctor, and then he regenerates to be played by another actor. I felt the same about Jon Pertwee. I was so upset when he got replaced by this strange looking guy called Tom Baker, then after a few episodes I really took to Pertwee's replacement, and ended up loving Tom's Doctor.

At least we'll still have Mark Gatiss / Russel T Davis onboard to write some of the episodes for season 2, so we know the stories should be pretty good.

[Lord Valumart]

So the X-mas special will probably be his debut?
i had a dog and his name was.....

[Lord Valumart]

The Kilt does indeed rule all forms of lower clothing! :D

Yeah, it won't be the same without Chris but that happens everytime we get used to a Doctor, and then he regenerates to be played by another actor. I felt the same about Jon Pertwee. I was so upset when he got replaced by this strange looking guy called Tom Baker, then after a few episodes I really took to Pertwee's replacement, and ended up loving Tom's Doctor.

At least we'll still have Mark Gatiss / Russel T Davis onboard to write some of the episodes for season 2, so we know the stories should be pretty good.
yeh, they are good writers.

and the Kilt rules

all hail the Kilt!!!!

[Bat Brain]

i had a dog and his name was.....
Rover? :confused:

[Hollow Wood Director]

i had a dog and his name was.....

K9?

[Lord Valumart]

K9?
yes!!!

you get the chocolate bar.

but since i spent my money buying a jacket like Chirs has, i can't afford to buy one to give it to you.

[Bat Brain]

K9?
1 second after I posted Rover, I realised how much funnier K9 would've been. Now I feel sad and rejected :(

Even worse, I didn't get offered a chocolate bar.

[Hollow Wood Director]

yes!!!

you get the chocolate bar.

but since i spent my money buying a jacket like Chirs has, i can't afford to buy one to give it to you.

:(

Typical! The only time I win anything, and they can't afford to a prize!

[Hollow Wood Director]

1 second after I posted Rover, I realised how much funnier K9 would've been. Now I feel sad and rejected :(

Even worse, I didn't get offered a chocolate bar.

Don't feel sad, and rejected...here, have a Jelly Baby! Ahh!

[regwec]

Mark Gatiss should be a future Doctor.

[Lord Valumart]

:(

Typical! The only time I win anything, and they can't afford to a prize!
but it's worth it for the Doctor Who leather Jacket, i look so cool in it:D

and the ladies will love it!

[Hollow Wood Director]

but it's worth it for the Doctor Who leather Jacket, i look so cool in it:D

and the ladies will love it!


I wish the weather here would allow me to wear a cool Doctor Who leather jacket!

:(

I wonder if they'll ever have a Doctor Who outfit consisting of a pair of shorts, a vest, and sandals? Probably not!

[Lady Stormcrow]

Mark Gatiss should be a future Doctor.

Whose that? Oh, Ill just do a google image search

[Lady Stormcrow]

Oh, I see who you mean. :D

[Lord Valumart]

I wish the weather here would allow me to wear a cool Doctor Who leather jacket!

:(

I wonder if they'll ever have a Doctor Who outfit consisting of a pair of shorts, a vest, and sandals? Probably not!
closest you can get would be David's kilt, or Peter's cricket stuff.

[P. Cushing]

At least we'll still have Mark Gatiss / Russel T Davis onboard to write some of the episodes for season 2, so we know the stories should be pretty good.
I hope they draft in Bert Coules, Nicholas Briggs and Jacqueline Rayner as well.

[black_dust]

ooooo the last episode should be pretty cool! :D "im coming to get you rose!!

[P. Cushing]

Mark Gatiss should be a future Doctor.
Ooooh. Then he'd be the Orson Welles of the Who world. He'd have played both The Doctor and The Master!

[P. Cushing]

Gay? There's a gay look? What is this gay look you talk about?
Didn't you know? All gay people look the same.

[Mr. Thing]

Is Tennant appearing in ''The Parting Of The Ways''?

Yes.

[Mr. Thing]

don't think so, it was filmed before he was announced as the tenth doctor

They shot 3 endings. We don't know which one is used. Since Eccles is leaving, that strikes two out.

[regwec]

But wasn't it also announced that Chris would appear in the Christmas special?

[ETHERSPIN]

Can someone fill me in on the doctor who big bads please? ive heard of omega, the master and davros ? who are they and which are natives of gallifrey, do you guys think that since they revealed that in fact all the daleks had not been wiped out that there may be another living timelord???? :p

[Lord Valumart]

well, i'm not to familiar with the Doctor and such, but when Patrick was the Doctor(no. 2), he got exiled to earth by the Timelords on Gallifrey. He was forced to regenerate, into John(no. 3). he was on earth until after the Three Doctors story, when the secrets of time travel were given back to him. thats something about the time lords and how they aren't allowed to interfear with history or something.

in the 96 movie(which McCoy was wasted on, since he was shot)where Paul is the Doctor(no. 8)they killed The Master, but he turned into this weird goo snake and possesed this surgen dude. then he got sucked into the Eye of Harmony and, i presume, is still there. however, they don't appear to be talking about the 8Th doctor, since in Confidential on BBC 3 show clips from most of the other Doctors, i've only saw them show one clip of Paul. i beleive that since the Master was an evil timelord, that he was involved witht he Daleks surviving, since i don't think the Daleks have any time travel devices, and that they wouldn't have survived what ever wiped out the timelords.

in short:
timelords dead=most likely
Master alive=possibly
your orrigonal question=cybermen, daleks, er, others. i beleive only the master is a fellow timelord, though there was a dark doctor who's name escapes me at the moment, who claimed to be a future regeneration of the doctor, but since he hasn't appeared, he's probably been sort of destroyed, since he was supposed to be something like the 7th doctor, who was becoming darker and more cunning near the end of his run. there's also the white figure who helped the Doctor regenerate from Tom(4th) to Peter(5th), who people beleive was a future Doctor, since he sort of walked into the Doctor and cacooned him, before he regenerated.

not sure if that answers anything at all, but i appears to help you out in some way or an other, ETHERSPIN :)

[Lord Valumart]

But wasn't it also announced that Chris would appear in the Christmas special?
yes, i think it was......

[Bat Brain]

Don't feel sad, and rejected...here, have a Jelly Baby! Ahh!
Candy from a stranger? How could I say no?

[Lord Valumart]

you gota see these:

http://homepage.ntlworld.com/richardiii/ebay%20pics/tbaker1.JPG
http://i10.ebayimg.com/02/i/04/41/b5/3c_1_b.JPG
http://i6.ebayimg.com/03/i/04/3b/da/a2_1_b.JPG

an 8" Doctor toy and the TARDIS and K9!!!

and a Cyberman:

http://i21.ebayimg.com/01/i/04/41/82/82_12_sb.JPG

[regwec]

Wow...they haven't even tried to get a likeness of Tom Baker. I'm pretty sure that's just a Ken with a hat.

[Lord Valumart]

well, it was the 70's

theres a cool talking Tom Baker, £30.