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Captain_BluTac
01-31-2008, 03:21 PM
how could you hate McGann and Gatiss?
Easily
and you don;t hate RTD's godawful scipts?
bar with a few exceptions, they're tolerable and in some cases there good and with Bad Wolf, they're great.
...I don't know if he's serious or if he's trolling.
Captain_BluTac
01-31-2008, 03:56 PM
...I don't know if he's serious or if he's trolling.
I am serious, I don't troll.
Fry's Girl!!
01-31-2008, 04:22 PM
I love Gwen
She may be hot, but she's an idiot for flinging herself into trouble. Well...moreso than others. :huh:
Captain_BluTac
01-31-2008, 07:02 PM
Gwen isn't hot and I know she flings herself into trouble like an idiot, but she also has some odd charm, which is why she is most peoples (bar fanboys/girls) favorite character.
Wall-weasle
01-31-2008, 08:48 PM
Hey who got this thread speaking about the old doctors, whoever it is will pay
Well, I was trying to divert the direction this thread was going from TARDIS sex to actual Doctor Who related subjects. If you have a problem with this then I shall release my army of squirrels upon you! Mwa ha ha ha! (just don't get them to cross any roads...)
But on a separate note
Am I the only one who really doesn't want the Daleks to turn up this year, they were great in the first series, a good surprise in the second and god awful in the third and I do not want to see them get any worse.
The Daleks were great and all, but after making a few of them turn somewhat emotional, they seemed less of a threat. The new Cybermen give me shivers down my spine whenever I see them. I just wish they had more of a fighting chance against the Daleks.
New Cybermen suck..
Bring back the old Cybermen :cmad:
LexCorp
02-01-2008, 03:52 AM
I am serious, I don't troll.
:hehe:
I really liked the cybermen. The fact that some of them seems to regain human memory was the sadest thing I ever saw in a DR WHO episode. The idea that you have been stripped of your body and turned into one of them but still aware of it....pretty crappy place to be.
Captain_BluTac
02-01-2008, 03:55 AM
:hehe:
I really liked the cybermen. The fact that some of them seems to regain human memory was the sadest thing I ever saw in a DR WHO episode. The idea that you have been stripped of your body and turned into one of them but still aware of it....pretty crappy place to be.
Now you see I hated the episode where the Cybermen were introduced, But loved them in the series 2 series finale.
LexCorp
02-01-2008, 04:08 AM
Now you see I hated the episode where the Cybermen were introduced, But loved them in the series 2 series finale.
I liked the idea that the Daleks and Cybermen were fighting...felt epic.
Captain_BluTac
02-01-2008, 04:10 AM
I liked the idea that the Daleks and Cybermen were fighting...felt epic.
Yup and Tracey Anne Obermans cyberman was good to.
LexCorp
02-01-2008, 04:14 AM
Yup and Tracey Anne Obermans cyberman was good to.
Was that the I did my duty for queen and country one?
Captain_BluTac
02-01-2008, 04:16 AM
Was that the I did my duty for queen and country one?
Yep.
chamber-music
02-01-2008, 08:06 AM
Daleks and Cybermen have never been scary to me. Hell Red Spiderlady is probabley more scary than a robot dustbin and Robotic S&M fetish tin men.
chamber-music
02-01-2008, 08:17 AM
I have decided that for today I will just be honest
I love Rose
http://i32.tinypic.com/11l30xv.jpg (http://tinypic.com/)
:o
04nbod
02-01-2008, 08:50 AM
awww... billie is so adorable
you just want to cuddle her!
LexCorp
02-01-2008, 09:16 AM
It's nice that she never tries to look good 100% of the time.
04nbod
02-01-2008, 11:00 AM
there is a new trailer in the cinemas like the one for voyage
LexCorp
02-01-2008, 11:43 AM
there is a new trailer in the cinemas like the one for voyage
For what episode?
04nbod
02-01-2008, 02:58 PM
all of them
there is a bad copy on you tube
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=wSMOWO9r8JU
04nbod
02-01-2008, 03:08 PM
new interview from RTD to the LAtimes
For 'Doctor Who' executive producer, there's no time like the present
Under Russell T. Davies, the popularity of the British time-traveling show has soared. But just because Davies grew up adoring 'Doctor Who' doesn't mean he wants feedback from fans of the show.
By Alison Pollet, Special to The Times
February 3, 2008
CARDIFF, WALES -- IT was a damp and windy afternoon in Cardiff, and Russell T. Davies had a cold. Also, he had been crying. He had just watched the latest cut of a new "Doctor Who" episode, and one scene really moved him. "I'm going to look really stupid," he later admitted to worrying. "But it was so beautiful, I was bloody crying."
Davies has had a long-founded emotional investment in "Doctor Who," Britain's beloved science-fiction series about a mysterious time-traveler and his companions. A veteran TV writer who honed his skills in children's programming and soap operas, Davies grew up watching and adoring "Doctor Who" -- it began airing in 1963, the same year he was born. Characters from his breakout dramatic series, "Queer as Folk" (1999), about gay men living in Manchester, inherited Davies' earnest affections, sometimes using obsessive knowledge of "Doctor Who" to gauge potential partners' romantic compatibility. (This approach does, in one episode, backfire miserably.)
In 2003, the BBC approached Davies to revamp "Doctor Who," and under his leadership, the show's success has ballooned. It survived what could have been a massive blow when after the first season it lost its lead, Christopher Eccleston. He was succeeded by David Tennant, who has since become a high-profile star here; he will play Hamlet for the Royal Shakespeare Company later this year. An audience of 13.31 million watched "The 2007 Doctor Who Christmas Special" (with guest star Kylie Minogue) -- a lot of people for a small country.
Licensed "Doctor Who" merchandise crowds the shelves at Boots and Borders. Eight-year-old boys in gray flannel school uniforms huddle at bus stops furtively trafficking in the show's trading cards. "Doctor Who" appears -- at least to a displaced foreigner -- to be the most visible of Britain's current pop culture commodities. Having been sold to 40 territories worldwide, it is also among its most exportable; in the U.S., it airs on BBC America and the Sci Fi Channel.
Even Davies sometimes finds it overwhelming. "Put the 'Doctor Who' stuff away!" is how he said he sometimes feels. "It's weird, isn't it? You see that logo everywhere." He paused for a moment, and continued. "It's the time of our lives."
When filming, Davies works from a spartan flat overlooking Cardiff Bay and Roald Dahl Plass, the centerpiece of the set for "Torchwood," one of the two "Doctor Who" spinoffs. The second season of "Torchwood," about high-level investigators fighting evil in an alien-infested time rift (also known as present-day Cardiff), had its U.S. premiere on Jan. 26. (BBC America airs "Torchwood" and the third season of "Doctor Who" on Saturday nights.)
There are no writers rooms on the shows. "This country simply couldn't afford that system," Davies said. "We pay people per script, but within that we try to make it collegiate -- as much as one can."
"Doctor Who's" second spinoff is "The Sarah Jane Adventures," a kids show that airs at an earlier time on the BBC and on the kids digital channel, the CBBC. All three shows swap cast members and villains. (" 'Sarah Jane' inherited some of our 'Doctor Who' monsters," Davies said. "We can't afford new prosthetics.")
They also share an increasingly complicated mythology. It falls to Davies "to keep balancing how much continuity there is, how many stand-alone elements there are." Ever mindful of the shows' "mainstream audience" (meaning, not just sci-fi enthusiasts) and put off by "exclusivity" in general, he said he is reticent of creating overly inclusive stories dependent on viewers' in-depth knowledge of ornate histories.
This job is made easier by Davies' policy of ignoring the voices of those most vigilant. "I think we're an unusual science-fiction franchise in taking a very big step back from fandom and having nothing to do with them. . . . Every program on the BBC has a message board on the website. I forbid it to happen on 'Doctor Who.' I'm sorry to say this, all the science fiction producers making stuff in America, they are way too engaged with their fandom. They all need to step back."
Spanning generations
What's striking about the "Doctor Who" franchise is the wide age range it not only speaks to but also seeks out. When Davies embarked on "The Sarah Jane Adventures," about an investigator and her 14-and-younger companions, he sought to tell younger stories without neutering them. There's death and despair, he said, but less violence and more fun. Also, Davies added, with a laugh, "more hugs." (It will be broadcast on the Sci Fi Channel beginning in April.)
The same can be said for "Torchwood," though hugs on that show usually turn to more. If "The Sarah Jane Adventures" is G to "Doctor Who's" PG-13, then "Torchwood" is decidedly R. Which is not to say kids here aren't watching -- and Davies thinks the crossover is to be celebrated. "I won't even engage in it," he said of being confronted by parents offended by the open bisexuality of "Torchwood" leader Capt. Jack Harkness (played by American actor John Barrowman). "I won't apologize for it. I won't even defend it. Because a defense is an apology."
In fact, all the main characters on "Torchwood" -- not just Jack -- experience sexual-orientation as more of a notion than a fixed state and are either too forward-thinking or too busy fighting aliens to mention or even think about it. Ask Davies about infusing politics in his work and he brings up "Bob & Rose," the series he wrote for ITV in 2001 about a gay man who falls in love with a woman. Davies had intended to explore the biases the couple faced but after five pages realized anyone with prejudices was "stupid and wrong," and since their issues didn't merit analysis, he'd sooner "take the piss out of them."
"What was conceived as a very radical and brave bit of political storytelling became, to my surprise, the lightest comedy on Earth. . . . You don't get on a soapbox. There are other ways of telling the story that are subversive." He said it's the best thing he's ever written.
If Davies regrets anything about the first season of "Torchwood," it's how fractured the dynamic among the agents got, he said. "After working on 'Doctor Who' for three years, I think we were desperate to explore adult material," Davies explains. "I think we all interpreted 'adult' as backstabbing, angst, treachery and betrayal." If the second season gets any reboot, Davies said, it's that they'll get along better.
It will help that in the season opener, they bonded in hatred over Capt. John Hart, a time agent who shares a complicated and passionate history with Jack. Much has been made of "Torchwood's" similarity to "Buffy the Vampire Slayer," which gives a seemingly layered significance to the casting of James Marsters, "Buffy's" Spike, in the role of Capt. John. But Davies said the choice was just a happy coincidence. He'd given up on finding a British actor to play the role and had temporarily scrapped the character when out of the blue Marsters' agent got in touch. Still, Sunnydale-starved viewers may have felt that they got a shout-out when Marsters, in a costume half Adam Ant and half Janet Jackson circa "Rhythm Nation," ended his first scene with the line "I'm thirsty." It's a recurring guest spot.
Season 4 of "Doctor Who" airs in the spring here and in the U.S. (on Sci Fi, starting in April). Then 2009 will be what Davies calls a "gap year," with only four one-hour specials. Although the show has been commissioned for a complete season in 2010, he and Tennant are not yet signed on.
"I can't carry on like this forever," Davies said, sniffling -- his cold was acting up. He said that after this, he will likely return to drama about "the epic-ness of ordinary intimate deals of ordinary people's lives," which is what he really loves writing. "The only place for me to go here is back to six-parters or one-offs which won't have the publicity, the merchandise, the budget, the profile." He took a deep breath. "And I'm so looking forward to it."
Captain_BluTac
02-01-2008, 04:10 PM
new interview from RTD to the LAtimes
For 'Doctor Who' executive producer, there's no time like the present
Under Russell T. Davies, the popularity of the British time-traveling show has soared. But just because Davies grew up adoring 'Doctor Who' doesn't mean he wants feedback from fans of the show.
By Alison Pollet, Special to The Times
February 3, 2008
CARDIFF, WALES -- IT was a damp and windy afternoon in Cardiff, and Russell T. Davies had a cold. Also, he had been crying. He had just watched the latest cut of a new "Doctor Who" episode, and one scene really moved him. "I'm going to look really stupid," he later admitted to worrying. "But it was so beautiful, I was bloody crying."
Davies has had a long-founded emotional investment in "Doctor Who," Britain's beloved science-fiction series about a mysterious time-traveler and his companions. A veteran TV writer who honed his skills in children's programming and soap operas, Davies grew up watching and adoring "Doctor Who" -- it began airing in 1963, the same year he was born. Characters from his breakout dramatic series, "Queer as Folk" (1999), about gay men living in Manchester, inherited Davies' earnest affections, sometimes using obsessive knowledge of "Doctor Who" to gauge potential partners' romantic compatibility. (This approach does, in one episode, backfire miserably.)
In 2003, the BBC approached Davies to revamp "Doctor Who," and under his leadership, the show's success has ballooned. It survived what could have been a massive blow when after the first season it lost its lead, Christopher Eccleston. He was succeeded by David Tennant, who has since become a high-profile star here; he will play Hamlet for the Royal Shakespeare Company later this year. An audience of 13.31 million watched "The 2007 Doctor Who Christmas Special" (with guest star Kylie Minogue) -- a lot of people for a small country.
Licensed "Doctor Who" merchandise crowds the shelves at Boots and Borders. Eight-year-old boys in gray flannel school uniforms huddle at bus stops furtively trafficking in the show's trading cards. "Doctor Who" appears -- at least to a displaced foreigner -- to be the most visible of Britain's current pop culture commodities. Having been sold to 40 territories worldwide, it is also among its most exportable; in the U.S., it airs on BBC America and the Sci Fi Channel.
Even Davies sometimes finds it overwhelming. "Put the 'Doctor Who' stuff away!" is how he said he sometimes feels. "It's weird, isn't it? You see that logo everywhere." He paused for a moment, and continued. "It's the time of our lives."
When filming, Davies works from a spartan flat overlooking Cardiff Bay and Roald Dahl Plass, the centerpiece of the set for "Torchwood," one of the two "Doctor Who" spinoffs. The second season of "Torchwood," about high-level investigators fighting evil in an alien-infested time rift (also known as present-day Cardiff), had its U.S. premiere on Jan. 26. (BBC America airs "Torchwood" and the third season of "Doctor Who" on Saturday nights.)
There are no writers rooms on the shows. "This country simply couldn't afford that system," Davies said. "We pay people per script, but within that we try to make it collegiate -- as much as one can."
"Doctor Who's" second spinoff is "The Sarah Jane Adventures," a kids show that airs at an earlier time on the BBC and on the kids digital channel, the CBBC. All three shows swap cast members and villains. (" 'Sarah Jane' inherited some of our 'Doctor Who' monsters," Davies said. "We can't afford new prosthetics.")
They also share an increasingly complicated mythology. It falls to Davies "to keep balancing how much continuity there is, how many stand-alone elements there are." Ever mindful of the shows' "mainstream audience" (meaning, not just sci-fi enthusiasts) and put off by "exclusivity" in general, he said he is reticent of creating overly inclusive stories dependent on viewers' in-depth knowledge of ornate histories.
This job is made easier by Davies' policy of ignoring the voices of those most vigilant. "I think we're an unusual science-fiction franchise in taking a very big step back from fandom and having nothing to do with them. . . . Every program on the BBC has a message board on the website. I forbid it to happen on 'Doctor Who.' I'm sorry to say this, all the science fiction producers making stuff in America, they are way too engaged with their fandom. They all need to step back."
Spanning generations
What's striking about the "Doctor Who" franchise is the wide age range it not only speaks to but also seeks out. When Davies embarked on "The Sarah Jane Adventures," about an investigator and her 14-and-younger companions, he sought to tell younger stories without neutering them. There's death and despair, he said, but less violence and more fun. Also, Davies added, with a laugh, "more hugs." (It will be broadcast on the Sci Fi Channel beginning in April.)
The same can be said for "Torchwood," though hugs on that show usually turn to more. If "The Sarah Jane Adventures" is G to "Doctor Who's" PG-13, then "Torchwood" is decidedly R. Which is not to say kids here aren't watching -- and Davies thinks the crossover is to be celebrated. "I won't even engage in it," he said of being confronted by parents offended by the open bisexuality of "Torchwood" leader Capt. Jack Harkness (played by American actor John Barrowman). "I won't apologize for it. I won't even defend it. Because a defense is an apology."
In fact, all the main characters on "Torchwood" -- not just Jack -- experience sexual-orientation as more of a notion than a fixed state and are either too forward-thinking or too busy fighting aliens to mention or even think about it. Ask Davies about infusing politics in his work and he brings up "Bob & Rose," the series he wrote for ITV in 2001 about a gay man who falls in love with a woman. Davies had intended to explore the biases the couple faced but after five pages realized anyone with prejudices was "stupid and wrong," and since their issues didn't merit analysis, he'd sooner "take the piss out of them."
"What was conceived as a very radical and brave bit of political storytelling became, to my surprise, the lightest comedy on Earth. . . . You don't get on a soapbox. There are other ways of telling the story that are subversive." He said it's the best thing he's ever written.
If Davies regrets anything about the first season of "Torchwood," it's how fractured the dynamic among the agents got, he said. "After working on 'Doctor Who' for three years, I think we were desperate to explore adult material," Davies explains. "I think we all interpreted 'adult' as backstabbing, angst, treachery and betrayal." If the second season gets any reboot, Davies said, it's that they'll get along better.
It will help that in the season opener, they bonded in hatred over Capt. John Hart, a time agent who shares a complicated and passionate history with Jack. Much has been made of "Torchwood's" similarity to "Buffy the Vampire Slayer," which gives a seemingly layered significance to the casting of James Marsters, "Buffy's" Spike, in the role of Capt. John. But Davies said the choice was just a happy coincidence. He'd given up on finding a British actor to play the role and had temporarily scrapped the character when out of the blue Marsters' agent got in touch. Still, Sunnydale-starved viewers may have felt that they got a shout-out when Marsters, in a costume half Adam Ant and half Janet Jackson circa "Rhythm Nation," ended his first scene with the line "I'm thirsty." It's a recurring guest spot.
Season 4 of "Doctor Who" airs in the spring here and in the U.S. (on Sci Fi, starting in April). Then 2009 will be what Davies calls a "gap year," with only four one-hour specials. Although the show has been commissioned for a complete season in 2010, he and Tennant are not yet signed on.
"I can't carry on like this forever," Davies said, sniffling -- his cold was acting up. He said that after this, he will likely return to drama about "the epic-ness of ordinary intimate deals of ordinary people's lives," which is what he really loves writing. "The only place for me to go here is back to six-parters or one-offs which won't have the publicity, the merchandise, the budget, the profile." He took a deep breath. "And I'm so looking forward to it."
Who did that interview because there were a few mistakes in it, the John Barrowman American actor bit for one.
Manic
02-01-2008, 04:19 PM
It's easy to mistakenly think Barrowman is an American actor (with terrible vocal inflection and line delivery), rather than a Scot with a strangely blended accent.
Captain_BluTac
02-01-2008, 04:23 PM
It's easy to mistakenly think Barrowman is an American actor (with terrible vocal inflection and line delivery), rather than a Scot with a strangely blended accent.
Yeah, but an interviewer should do their research.
Bastila
02-02-2008, 04:52 PM
all of them
there is a bad copy on you tube
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=wSMOWO9r8JU
Cool I didn't see that though the other night when I saw Sweeny :(
Lord Valumart
02-02-2008, 05:09 PM
that trailer...at 1:00 it makes me hate everything about it...
Bastila
02-02-2008, 05:14 PM
that trailer...at 1:00 it makes me hate everything about it...
What Martha me too! lol
I am looking forward to seeing Tate as shes like an adult sidekick not young person or what ever lol Rose yeah!
Lord Valumart
02-02-2008, 05:15 PM
i hate rose, martha and astrid...
damn you rtd for all the horrible companions!!:cmad:
however i loves me some tate:up::heart:
Bastila
02-02-2008, 05:17 PM
i hate rose, martha and astrid...
damn you rtd for all the horrible companions!!:cmad:
however i loves me some tate:up::heart:
Really? I liked Rose...her and the Doctor awwwwww lol.
Maratha sucked I don't like Sarah Jane meh!
But Tate does look good and shes not going to go all google eyed and in love with him
What trailer is that film with?
Captain_BluTac
02-02-2008, 05:18 PM
Donna is great in the trailer. :up:
Lord Valumart
02-02-2008, 05:21 PM
Really? I liked Rose...her and the Doctor awwwwww lol.
Maratha sucked I don't like Sarah Jane meh!
But Tate does look good and shes not going to go all google eyed and in love with him
What trailer is that film with?
rose pissed me off when she was all like "dokta luvs me:oldrazz:" which was all of series 2...and martha was annoying as hell
how could you not like SJS? she's awesome
Bastila
02-02-2008, 05:27 PM
I don't know I just didn't grow to like SJS much
Manic
02-02-2008, 05:54 PM
Bring back Romana!
Captain_BluTac
02-02-2008, 06:02 PM
Okay here is an idea, if you could pick an actor (who hasn't already been int DW) to be the next companion, who would you pick?
I would either pick
Olivia Hallinan (the red head)
http://lovegirls.co.uk/content/entertainment/sugarrushinterview2.jpg
or
Sheridan Smith
http://images.google.co.uk/url?q=http://london.broadway.com/photos/3006675.jpg&usg=AFQjCNEw5e5nCJ9z6gjpzi4e2vJGLdM8Iw
Lord Valumart
02-02-2008, 06:05 PM
http://lovegirls.co.uk/content/entertainment/sugarrushinterview2.jpg
the other one was in gridlock...and did poorly...
and wasn;t the redhead in torchwood? came from the past in the plane with the girl owen shaged and the bloke that gassed himself?
Manic
02-02-2008, 06:10 PM
the other one was in gridlock...and did poorly...
and wasn;t the redhead in torchwood? came from the past in the plane with the girl owen shaged and the bloke that gassed himself?
Sure enough, that is them.
Lord Valumart
02-02-2008, 06:12 PM
Sure enough, that is them.
i refuse to have them go near dr who related items again...even if it's just walking past the toys in tesco as they look for something to buy their mates kids...:cmad:
Captain_BluTac
02-02-2008, 06:15 PM
the other one was in gridlock...and did poorly...
Yep, Lenora Crichlow, she's not a bad actress, just not right for the part
and wasn;t the redhead in torchwood? came from the past in the plane with the girl owen shaged and the bloke that gassed himself?
Yep, but she still is brilliant.
Captain_BluTac
02-02-2008, 06:16 PM
i refuse to have them go near dr who related items again...even if it's just walking past the toys in tesco as they look for something to buy their mates kids...:cmad:
She was great in Torchwood, one of the better things of series 1, but no matter what you can't odds bad writing.
Captain_BluTac
02-02-2008, 06:30 PM
Let's start a cult.
Lord Valumart
02-02-2008, 06:31 PM
She was great in Torchwood, one of the better things of series 1, but no matter what you can't odds bad writing.
i don;t care...i still don;t want them in dr who...
Captain_BluTac
02-02-2008, 06:33 PM
i don;t care...i still don;t want them in dr who...
Who do you want then and don't name an old companion.
Lord Valumart
02-02-2008, 06:36 PM
Who do you want then and don't name an old companion.
i don;t really know that many actors these days...all i can think of is typing lee mack in big blod letters:huh:
04nbod
02-03-2008, 04:20 PM
or
Sheridan Smith
http://images.google.co.uk/url?q=http://london.broadway.com/photos/3006675.jpg&usg=AFQjCNEw5e5nCJ9z6gjpzi4e2vJGLdM8Iw
she is lucie miller in the eighth doctor radio adventures
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Lucie_Miller
TheCorpulent1
02-03-2008, 04:24 PM
When does the new series start again?
Lord Valumart
02-03-2008, 04:26 PM
When does the new series start again?
who cares anymore...the new series is pretty much fecked this year anyhow...
TheCorpulent1
02-03-2008, 04:29 PM
Well, I'm not looking forward to Donna, but I'll still watch it. I wasn't expecting much from Torchwood after the first season, but it hasn't been bad so far.
Lord Valumart
02-03-2008, 04:37 PM
the only thing i'm looking forward to this series is donna...i liked her in the runaway bride after i rewatched it....but...the return of martha AND rose is bloody annoying, the stupid anti-sontaran sontaran's are horrible, i'm bored of "classic setting, classic monster, famous person" episodes(dickens was fun, queen vic was ok, bill was good but it got old quickly), and davros coming back can only spell disaster for the daleks again...and where are OUR cybermen? where the **** did they go, eh? answer me RT(it means nothing)D you ass:cmad:
TheCorpulent1
02-03-2008, 04:41 PM
Hahaha, you're fun, LV. :D
Lord Valumart
02-03-2008, 04:46 PM
i'm not fun...i've lost interest in dr who...i've died inside:csad:
PRIMEVAL FTW!!!!:ninja:
04nbod
02-03-2008, 04:46 PM
ewww..ITV
TheCorpulent1
02-03-2008, 04:49 PM
i'm not fun...i've lost interest in dr who...i've died inside:csad:
PRIMEVAL FTW!!!!:ninja:
I watched the first episode of Primeval and fell asleep about 3/4ths of the way through. :(
Lord Valumart
02-03-2008, 04:51 PM
ewww..ITV
i bought the toys...
http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v605/valumart/03022008036.jpg
i'm so sorry:csad: :csad:
I watched the first episode of Primeval and fell asleep about 3/4ths of the way through. :(
but there was freakin raptors! in a shoping mall! and raptors!!
TheCorpulent1
02-03-2008, 04:53 PM
I lost interest when I realized that I recognized the blonde "scientist" from S Club 7. :o
Lord Valumart
02-03-2008, 04:54 PM
I lost interest when I realized that I recognized the blonde "scientist" from S Club 7. :o
she's not a scientist...she's an ex zoo keeper who specialised in reptiles...
TheCorpulent1
02-03-2008, 04:57 PM
Aren't most zookeepers scientists? She seemed to be conducting research and doing various other scientisty things.
I've never lost interest.. I just realized that its more fun to ***** about the series than it is to watch it now..
04nbod
02-03-2008, 05:15 PM
everytime you give money to ITV a kitten dies :(
Bastila
02-03-2008, 05:30 PM
everytime you give money to ITV a kitten dies :(
Oh well :o
LV I am with you Primeval is good, and nice set of the cast as toys lol
I liked this weeks episode, Conner is an idoit he can't see his gf is a bad guy!!! And shes so annoying.
04nbod
02-03-2008, 08:22 PM
i didn't see the last 2 primevals but then again i still haven't seen the new torchwood either
LexCorp
02-04-2008, 05:41 AM
i didn't see the last 2 primevals but then again i still haven't seen the new torchwood either
Then your IQ has not drop by ten points.
redmarvel
02-04-2008, 09:50 AM
William Hartnell
Patrick Troughton
Jon Pertwee
Tom Baker
Peter Davison
Collin Baker
Sylvester McCoy
Paul McGann
Christopher Eccelston
David Tennant
...Every Doctor Who fan knows that. :confused:
I didn't know that and I consider myself a fan. Just that most of them predate my Fandom. My Doctors are Eccelston and Tennant, I'm trying to find cheap clips of the others now, since the series is on Hiatus.
redmarvel
02-04-2008, 09:56 AM
I have decided that for today I will just be honest:
I like seeing Jack get it on with anyone and everyone
and the series 3 series finale was 100% terrible
Normally I like seeing Jack's "prowess", however in the Torchwood episode where he slips back in time I really could not buy him getting it on with the real "Captain Jack". A Captain in the Airforce in World War II would NOT do anything that would make his men have less trust in his abilities. He simply could not afford to be that weak.
LexCorp
02-04-2008, 10:49 AM
Normally I like seeing Jack's "prowess", however in the Torchwood episode where he slips back in time I really could not buy him getting it on with the real "Captain Jack". A Captain in the Airforce in World War II would NOT do anything that would make his men have less trust in his abilities. He simply could not afford to be that weak.
I would kind of agree with that one.
chamber-music
02-04-2008, 10:51 AM
everytime you give money to ITV a kitten dies :(
They use the Kittens fur for wigs on Emmerdale :funny:
Normally I like seeing Jack's "prowess", however in the Torchwood episode where he slips back in time I really could not buy him getting it on with the real "Captain Jack". A Captain in the Airforce in World War II would NOT do anything that would make his men have less trust in his abilities. He simply could not afford to be that weak.
True but its RTD so in his mind everyone is bisexual and won't think twice about sleeping with men or women if the mood takes them.
redmarvel
02-04-2008, 11:17 AM
Granted that the world seems to be heading that way, but if you're writing a story about the past you need to consider the morale traits of that past. WW2 era fighters acted pretty much like John Wayne. If you can't picture John Wayne doing it, don't make the characters in your script do it either.
TheCorpulent1
02-04-2008, 11:32 AM
I don't agree with that. That's like saying every soldier today is like Jake Gyllenhaal in Jarhead or something. There are all kinds of people in the armed forces today, just as there were all kinds of people in the armed forces back in Captain Jack Harkness' day. I think RTD went a bit overboard with the presentation, but I didn't mind the underlying concept.
redmarvel
02-04-2008, 12:01 PM
I didn't mind the underlying concept either, but there is no way on God's green earth that a WW2 Captain would dance with another man in front of his men (never mind kiss him).
TheCorpulent1
02-04-2008, 12:14 PM
Well, the public kiss was the main part of the presentation I didn't agree with. Still, it's supposed to be a love-at-all-costs story, so the fact that it would've been so outlandish in that time just highlights the fact that Jack and Jack were willing to sacrifice everything for their love.
Which sprung up over an hour or so.
Did I mention I didn't agree with some parts of the presentation?
LexCorp
02-04-2008, 12:25 PM
I didn't mind the underlying concept either, but there is no way on God's green earth that a WW2 Captain would dance with another man in front of his men (never mind kiss him).
Jack is very handsome though :)
redmarvel
02-04-2008, 12:25 PM
Yes, but if the kiss happened then time should have changed and the original Jack shouldn't have died. His men would have reported him to a senior officer and he would have been kicked out of the service before he was even able to lead them on a "routine training exercise".
redmarvel
02-04-2008, 12:26 PM
Jack is very handsome though :)
Oh, I grant you that, but you don't throw away your career for a man you met a couple of hours ago.
TheCorpulent1
02-04-2008, 12:29 PM
Yes, but if the kiss happened then time should have changed and the original Jack shouldn't have died. His men would have reported him to a senior officer and he would have been kicked out of the service before he was even able to lead them on a "routine training exercise".
Well, aside from rampant homophobia, another distinguishing characteristic of a lot of men back then was loyalty. Maybe Jack's men just kept his secret.
Lord Valumart
02-04-2008, 01:12 PM
everytime you give money to ITV a kitten dies :(
nacy is right...
LV doesn't like kitties.
kitties are evil things...
Bastila
02-04-2008, 01:45 PM
I didn't mind the underlying concept either, but there is no way on God's green earth that a WW2 Captain would dance with another man in front of his men (never mind kiss him).
I know and in that timeline they could have not got away with that in public, even now some people can't.
So I was like yeah not Historically correct there :o
Manic
02-04-2008, 01:52 PM
RTD and historical accuracy? Ha! I'd like to direct everyone's attention to Martha Jones running around in the 1930s.
Bastila
02-04-2008, 01:56 PM
RTD and historical accuracy? Ha! I'd like to direct everyone's attention to Martha Jones running around in the 1930s.
hahaha good point there
Lord Valumart
02-04-2008, 01:57 PM
they were in the 30's:huh:
Manic
02-04-2008, 02:08 PM
Daleks in Manhattan 2-parter. Martha was a black woman walking around with a white man in 1930s in the US, and nobody questioned it. Even if we were to believe the inhabitants of Hooverville were living racially integrated, I can guarantee you someone would've raised an eyebrow at a pairing like that. There was a complete lack of racial undertone in that episode. Martha wouldn't experience any form of racism whilst time-traveling until the Human Nature 2-parter, where it was pretty damn accurate.
--EDIT--
God, I would bring up racism on Doctor Who only during Black History Month while displaying a Dred Scott avatar, wouldn't I?
Lord Valumart
02-04-2008, 02:10 PM
i forgot about the dalek eps...
and human nature was accurate cause it was the best damn thing about the seires
Bastila
02-04-2008, 02:14 PM
i forgot about the dalek eps...
and human nature was accurate cause it was the best damn thing about the seires
Agreed really good episodes and they got the time right as Martha did get racism
Lord Valumart
02-04-2008, 02:16 PM
wait....are we saying dr who should eb more racist:huh:
DarkSuperman
02-04-2008, 02:20 PM
Daleks in Manhattan 2-parter. Martha was a black woman walking around with a white man in 1930s in the US, and nobody questioned it. Even if we were to believe the inhabitants of Hooverville were living racially integrated, I can guarantee you someone would've raised an eyebrow at a pairing like that. There was a complete lack of racial undertone in that episode. Martha wouldn't experience any form of racism whilst time-traveling until the Human Nature 2-parter, where it was pretty damn accurate.
--EDIT--
God, I would bring up racism on Doctor Who only during Black History Month while displaying a Dred Scott avatar, wouldn't I?
Hmmmm, you make an interesting point.
However, I think that people in Doctor Who are too busy trying to stay alive and running from Aliens and being scared to worry about the really hot black chick kicking it with the dude in the Sherlock Holmes coat. :cwink:
Lord Valumart
02-04-2008, 02:22 PM
Hmmmm, you make an interesting point.
However, I think that people in Doctor Who are too busy trying to stay alive and running from Aliens and being scared to worry about the really hot black chick kicking it with the dude in the Sherlock Holmes coat. :cwink:
are we watching the same show:huh:
Manic
02-04-2008, 02:29 PM
wait....are we saying dr who should eb more racist:huh:
I can't believe I'm saying this, but yes. If the Doctor is going to take a black person back in time, I'm expecting time-appropriate racism.
I'm willing to forgive it with The Shakespeare Code, though. If you pay attention to the episode, Martha doesn't talk to anyone except the Doctor and Shakespeare. The Doc is more inclined to notice species before race, and Shakespeare has been rumored to have a thing for the sistas (http://www.geocities.com/Athens/Troy/4081/DarkLady.html).
chamber-music
02-04-2008, 04:33 PM
WHO SPOILERS
Doctor Who has a daughter?
The Timelord is apparently set to get a huge shock when Doctor Who returns this spring - when he discovers he's a dad.
The Doctor, played by 36-year-old David Tennant, is left stunned after he lands on Earth and learns he has a daughter, reports the Daily Star.
But, as with all the sci-fi hit's best storylines, there's a twist and the Doctor finds out the girl has been made by aliens, who sneakily took some of his DNA without him knowing.
The Timelord's daughter is apparently played by 23-year-old Georgia Moffett, who also happens to be the real life daughter of former Doctor Who star Peter Davison, 56.
A source was quoted as saying: "It's an amazing signing!"
More incredible storylines have apparently been concocted for the new series, including a showdown with the Daleks and their evil creator Davros.
Meanwhile, Catherine Tate is set to reprise her role as Donna, the runaway bride, and will star as The Doctor's companion throughout the new series.
http://www.thisisnottingham.co.uk/displayNode.jsp?nodeId=244367&command=displayContent&sourceNode=244365&contentPK=19770269&folderPk=112383&pNodeId=188965 (http://www.thisisnottingham.co.uk/displayNode.jsp?nodeId=244367&command=displayContent&sourceNode=244365&contentPK=19770269&folderPk=112383&pNodeId=188965)
So apparently this doctor:
http://i31.tinypic.com/2583the.jpg
led to this girl:
http://i32.tinypic.com/xbbrxt.jpg
And also this doesnt answer if the doctor can knock up earth girls :/
RTD WTF :huh: :cmad:
Captain_BluTac
02-04-2008, 04:42 PM
WHO SPOILERS
RTD WTF :huh: :cmad:
That is soooo not true and if it was, it would be in something other than the star.
chamber-music
02-04-2008, 04:46 PM
That is soooo not true and if it was, it would be in something other than the star.
Hey I just spread the News/Rumours its up to you guys if you wanna believe it or not :gray:
Captain_BluTac
02-04-2008, 04:48 PM
Hey I just spread the News/Rumours its up to you guys if you wanna believe it or not :gray:
I wasn't questioning you, but I just think that article was bull.
chamber-music
02-04-2008, 04:54 PM
I wasn't questioning you, but I just think that article was bull.
I wasn't doubting you where questioning me............does that make sense :huh:
anyway it could be fake but I put nothing past RTD plus the multiple companion news turned out to be true.
Captain_BluTac
02-04-2008, 04:57 PM
I wasn't doubting you where questioning me............does that make sense :huh:
anyway it could be fake but I put nothing past RTD plus the multiple companion news turned out to be true.
Yeah, but there have been multiple companions every year.
Can't wait for this season! RTD you never stop amazing me with your brilliance and understanding of a complicated canon! Your the greatest writer of this series ever, Robert Holmes and Douglas Adams have nothing on you! You have a way of creating chilling and thrilling storylines which alway captivate the audience! We all love you! I can't wait to see how you bring Rose back I know its going to rock!
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chamber-music
02-04-2008, 05:10 PM
Yeah, but there have been multiple companions every year.
The spoiler of lots of companions turning up all at once. I mean not just Sarah Jane, Captain Jack, Martha, Rose and Donna but more past companions as well.
Captain_BluTac
02-04-2008, 05:16 PM
Can't wait for this season! RTD you never stop amazing me with your brilliance and understanding of a complicated canon! Your the greatest writer of this series ever, Robert Holmes and Douglas Adams have nothing on you! You have a way of creating chilling and thrilling storylines which alway captivate the audience! We all love you! I can't wait to see how you bring Rose back I know its going to rock!
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RTD gets insulted a lot, but TBH we can't just blame him, their are a lot of writers on that show.
04nbod
02-05-2008, 12:26 AM
USA TO OFFICIALLY BEGIN SERIES 4 OF DOCTOR WHO IN APRIL ALONG WITH SJA
http://www.thefutoncritic.com/news.aspx?id=20080204scifi01
LexCorp
02-05-2008, 06:29 AM
--EDIT--
God, I would bring up racism on Doctor Who only during Black History Month while displaying a Dred Scott avatar, wouldn't I?
Makes you one of a kind
I want the next DR to be either black or a woman lol
chamber-music
02-05-2008, 08:45 AM
Makes you one of a kind
I want the next DR to be either black or a woman lol
or a talking panda, you know you want to see the faces of everyone afrter the doctor regenerates into a talking panda in human clothing :woot:
chamber-music
02-05-2008, 08:47 AM
http://i32.tinypic.com/s6j2g4.jpg
LexCorp
02-05-2008, 09:12 AM
or a talking panda, you know you want to see the faces of everyone afrter the doctor regenerates into a talking panda in human clothing :woot:
Yes or maybe a child. People love child actors.
Lord Valumart
02-05-2008, 01:16 PM
Makes you one of a kind
I want the next DR to be either black or a woman lol
no, no...
http://i32.tinypic.com/s6j2g4.jpg
and thats just wrong...
Wall-weasle
02-05-2008, 10:18 PM
WHO SPOILERS
RTD WTF :huh: :cmad:
Even if this was true, the Doctor already had a daughter and a granddaughter. His granddaughter was Susan Foreman and she accompanyed the first Doctor. The nineth Doctor even says in the episode Father's Day that he was a father once.
Manic
02-05-2008, 11:38 PM
Does Astrid count as an official companion? I remember someone once saying that the prerequisite was that all companions hitch a ride in the TARDIS at least once, but Astrid never quite made it that far.
chamber-music
02-06-2008, 05:44 AM
Even if this was true, the Doctor already had a daughter and a granddaughter. His granddaughter was Susan Foreman and she accompanyed the first Doctor. The nineth Doctor even says in the episode Father's Day that he was a father once.
Where the heck is his daughter or granddaughter then. Did he just leave them or something? Doctor got baby mama drama?
Does Astrid count as an official companion? I remember someone once saying that the prerequisite was that all companions hitch a ride in the TARDIS at least once, but Astrid never quite made it that far.
well she was invited to be one I guess :huh:
Lord Valumart
02-06-2008, 06:02 AM
Where the heck is his daughter or granddaughter then. Did he just leave them or something? Doctor got baby mama drama?
well we never met his daughter/son but he dumped his grandaughter on someone after they stoped the daleks invainding earth...really this is simple dr who history...
LexCorp
02-06-2008, 06:32 AM
Who here buys the DVDs?
Lord Valumart
02-06-2008, 06:33 AM
new series or classic?
LexCorp
02-06-2008, 06:41 AM
new series or classic?
Either - just wondering if the features on them are any good. I would not buy them just for the episodes.
Lord Valumart
02-06-2008, 06:59 AM
the features are ok i suppose...some have more than others...but really i just want the eps to watch...i don;t care about features that much
LexCorp
02-06-2008, 07:07 AM
the features are ok i suppose...some have more than others...but really i just want the eps to watch...i don;t care about features that much
Any comentaries?
Lord Valumart
02-06-2008, 07:13 AM
Any comentaries?
on most of them...but really the earthshock one is the best...
04nbod
02-06-2008, 07:29 AM
all doctor who DVDs have commentaries I think
LexCorp
02-06-2008, 07:43 AM
Cool that would make it worth it.
Kahoot
02-06-2008, 10:11 AM
http://i32.tinypic.com/s6j2g4.jpg
So that's how the new DVDs are going to look... :gray::dry::gray::dry: What's with the wee people in the backround?
Even if this was true, the Doctor already had a daughter and a granddaughter. His granddaughter was Susan Foreman and she accompanyed the first Doctor. The nineth Doctor even says in the episode Father's Day that he was a father once.
That was the 10th that said he was a father once and it was the episode Fear Her :whatever:
chamber-music
02-06-2008, 10:19 AM
well we never met his daughter/son but he dumped his grandaughter on someone after they stoped the daleks invainding earth...really this is simple dr who history...
So is she a time lady or half time lady because if she is the doctor isn't the last of the timelords then. Also they should bring her back. I mean its a bit weird the earth is getting attacked every other week and she ain't contacting her time travelling grandpa.
Kahoot
02-06-2008, 10:20 AM
all doctor who DVDs have commentaries I think
The "Vanilla" disks don't. From my understanding only the new Boxsets have features and the "Vanilla" disks are just the shows.
LexCorp
02-06-2008, 10:33 AM
That's Banakafalate - the mini person right?
Kahoot
02-06-2008, 10:42 AM
That's Banakafalate - the mini person right?
Yeah, but why is he in the backround? They didn't do mini things like that on any other DVD cover.
LexCorp
02-06-2008, 10:53 AM
Yeah, but why is he in the backround? They didn't do mini things like that on any other DVD cover.
It's a hidden message if you look hard enough.
Kahoot
02-06-2008, 10:58 AM
As long as they aren't hinting that he's gonna be a big part of the show somehow.
LexCorp
02-06-2008, 11:12 AM
As long as they aren't hinting that he's gonna be a big part of the show somehow.
Lets hope not
chamber-music
02-06-2008, 11:15 AM
Lets hope not
His dead punk ass better stay that way :cmad: :cwink:
Lord Valumart
02-06-2008, 11:23 AM
So is she a time lady or half time lady because if she is the doctor isn't the last of the timelords then. Also they should bring her back. I mean its a bit weird the earth is getting attacked every other week and she ain't contacting her time travelling grandpa.
chances are she was drafted and died in the time war...
LexCorp
02-06-2008, 11:30 AM
His dead punk ass better stay that way :cmad: :cwink:
I'm sure it will.
Captain_BluTac
02-06-2008, 02:36 PM
Is it true that int the first DW film The Doctor was human.
SpideyLad
02-06-2008, 02:45 PM
Is it true that int the first DW film The Doctor was human.
Yep, although it wasn't actually 'The Doctor' per say. He was just a human scientist that created the TARDIS. Both the films that they made were pretty much film adaptations of William Hartnell stories.
Kahoot
02-06-2008, 02:49 PM
Yep, although it wasn't actually 'The Doctor' per say. He was just a human scientist that created a TARDIS (also stuck as a blue phone box). Both the films that they made were pretty much film adaptations of William Hartnell stories. But they are not cannon.
Fixed it...
SpideyLad
02-06-2008, 02:54 PM
Fixed it...
It was mostly right...:cmad:
Captain_BluTac
02-06-2008, 02:56 PM
Okay don't you two start arguing over sci fi or you will officially be the saddest people on earth.
Kahoot
02-06-2008, 02:57 PM
It was mostly right...:cmad:
But not all right! :grin:
SpideyLad
02-06-2008, 02:58 PM
Okay don't you two start arguing over sci fi or you will officially be the saddest people on earth.
It's the Hype!!!! What the **** do you expect!?
SpideyLad
02-06-2008, 02:58 PM
But not all right! :grin:
I only missed out two things...:csad:
Kahoot
02-06-2008, 03:05 PM
I only missed out two things...:csad:
Two things is more than no things...
SpideyLad
02-06-2008, 03:12 PM
Two things is more than no things...
But also less than three things...
Captain_BluTac
02-06-2008, 03:17 PM
I think RTD's version of The Master was a bit of a rip off of The Mayor from Buffy's .
Bastila
02-06-2008, 03:53 PM
It's a hidden message if you look hard enough.
You lie! lol there isn't :o
Dope Nose
02-06-2008, 03:59 PM
I think RTD's version of The Master was a bit of a rip off of The Mayor from Buffy's .
how so?
Whirlysplat
02-06-2008, 04:25 PM
Haha, Torchwood is funny and the joke is on the people that watch it.
Wall-weasle
02-06-2008, 05:23 PM
Where the heck is his daughter or granddaughter then. Did he just leave them or something? Doctor got baby mama drama?
well she was invited to be one I guess :huh:
well we never met his daughter/son but he dumped his grandaughter on someone after they stoped the daleks invainding earth...really this is simple dr who history...
Oops... that's right... he never mentioned whether he had a daughter or son... sorry 'bout that...
So that's how the new DVDs are going to look... :gray::dry::gray::dry: What's with the wee people in the backround?
That was the 10th that said he was a father once and it was the episode Fear Her :whatever:
Oops... another mistake. I'm sorry... I really thought it was the 9th doctor in Father's Day.
Whirlysplat
02-06-2008, 05:31 PM
I wonder if Susan survived the Time War?
Wall-weasle
02-06-2008, 05:43 PM
I wonder if Susan survived the Time War?
Well, the Doctor did say that Timelords can sense each other's presence throughout the universe and he said he could not sense anyone (he explains in the end of the third series that the Master hid his presence using technology he developed). However, since Timelord is an organization of Gallifreyans, I'm not sure if he can sense all Gallifreyans or just Timelords, or if Susan is a Timelord or just a regular Gallifreyan (though she did go to the academy).
Then again... this doesn't really answer the question... she almost certainly didn't survive if she was a Timelord.
Whirlysplat
02-06-2008, 07:24 PM
Well, the Doctor did say that Timelords can sense each other's presence throughout the universe and he said he could not sense anyone (he explains in the end of the third series that the Master hid his presence using technology he developed). However, since Timelord is an organization of Gallifreyans, I'm not sure if he can sense all Gallifreyans or just Timelords, or if Susan is a Timelord or just a regular Gallifreyan (though she did go to the academy).
Then again... this doesn't really answer the question... she almost certainly didn't survive if she was a Timelord.
It's sad the RTD Doctor who is so bad.
Captain_BluTac
02-06-2008, 08:03 PM
Who News
Tall Order
http://www.bbc.co.uk/doctorwho/images/173/dwm392.jpg Freema reaches new heights with Sontaran encounter.
Freema Agyeman has revealed that facing classic Doctor Who villains the Sontarans was a a 'high' point in her career.
"Russell (T Davies) sent me a text saying, 'It'll be the first time you've towered over a baddie' Ha ha!," Freema revealed in an exclusive interview in the latest issue of Doctor Who Magazine. "And I did. I felt quite tall."
"When I first saw the guys in prosthetics I couldn't stop giggling - found them really cute and quite funny! Er, that's probably not the desired reaction, is it?" she added.
Also in this month's issue: writer Stephen Greenhorn talks about his forthcoming Series Four episode; director Graham Harper braves questions from Out of the TARDIS Tin; there's werewolves and weirdness in the full colour comic strip, Part 2 of Universal Monsters.
Russell T Davies pays tribute to a very special lady in Production Notes; Neil Harris stresses the importance of location, location, location in You Are Not Alone; it's the last ever edition of the Matrix Data Bank; plus all the latest Series Four news, previews and reviews.
Captain_BluTac
02-06-2008, 08:04 PM
Who News
Kevin Stoney
http://www.bbc.co.uk/doctorwho/images/173/stoney.jpg Classic Series actor passes away.
Kevin Stoney, the acclaimed actor who portrayed two of the greatest villains in the original series of Doctor Who, has died at the age of 86.
Stoney first appeared in Doctor Who as Guardian of the Solar System Mavic Chen, confronting William Hartnell's Doctor in the 1965 story The Daleks' Master Plan.
Three year's later, he returned to battle Patrick Troughton as Tobias Vaughn in the Cyberman epic The Invasion.
Stoney's last contribution to Doctor Who came in 1975, playing the Vogan Tyrum in Revenge of the Cybermen.
The actor was also well known for roles in such classic series as Blake's 7, I, Claudius and The Tomorrow People.
Kahoot
02-06-2008, 08:17 PM
Haha, Torchwood is funny and the joke is on the people that watch it.
That's sad coz it's true and yet I still watch it...
Manic
02-06-2008, 11:51 PM
I feel very little shame for watching Torchwood. I've seen far worse. I used to watch Hex.
Captain_BluTac
02-07-2008, 12:43 AM
I feel very little shame for watching Torchwood. I've seen far worse. I used to watch Hex.
I liked Hex.
Manic
02-07-2008, 01:00 AM
Hex had a bit of ADD going on. It kept shifting its focus and main characters. I didn't get Ella's relationship with Malachi. They were physically attracted to one another, and that was it. I never once got the impression they were actually in love. They wanted to jump one another's bones, and they let that get in the way of their attempts to kill each other the whole damn time. Malachi's machinations weren't even that damn complex. Leon was the only good guy who came remotely close to killing him, and that had more to do with Malachi bumping his girlfriend, than it did saving the world.
Captain_BluTac
02-07-2008, 01:16 AM
Hex had a bit of ADD going on. It kept shifting its focus and main characters. I didn't get Ella's relationship with Malachi. They were physically attracted to one another, and that was it. I never once got the impression they were actually in love. They wanted to jump one another's bones, and they let that get in the way of their attempts to kill each other the whole damn time. Malachi's machinations weren't even that damn complex. Leon was the only good guy who came remotely close to killing him, and that had more to do with Malachi bumping his girlfriend, than it did saving the world.
Well Malachi had the abilty to control people, women by lust and men by fear and as such turning them into succubi and incubi, and his plan was to declare a holy war by forcing gods creatures to spill the blood of someone who was pure, it is more complicated than that, but if you knew the legends behind the story it was pretty good.
Whirlysplat
02-07-2008, 03:04 AM
I feel very little shame for watching Torchwood. I've seen far worse. I used to watch Hex.
A-and you tell people this!:wow:
LexCorp
02-07-2008, 06:01 AM
I feel very little shame for watching Torchwood. I've seen far worse. I used to watch Hex.
Hex was really really bad stuff. Like a crosse between Torchwood and Skins...
Oh god no!
TheCorpulent1
02-07-2008, 10:27 AM
I watched Hex. I liked most of the first season, and I kept watching the second season, expecting it to get better. But then it just ended.
LexCorp
02-07-2008, 10:43 AM
I watched Hex. I liked most of the first season, and I kept watching the second season, expecting it to get better. But then it just ended.
I hated the fat goth friend that died and became a ghost. The main lead girl was just a Keria Knightly type but worse...I just thought it was badly done.
chamber-music
02-07-2008, 10:44 AM
I never watched Hex. It looked like a Buffy rip off.
LexCorp
02-07-2008, 10:45 AM
I never watched Hex. It looked like a Buffy rip off.
Well that would have helped the show imo as it was just plain like white bread. Some Buffy ripping off would have been nice.
TheCorpulent1
02-07-2008, 10:48 AM
I hated the fat goth friend that died and became a ghost. The main lead girl was just a Keria Knightly type but worse...I just thought it was badly done.
I liked the ghost friend. She was usually funny.
The sad thing is that it actually looked like it was starting to get interesting when it was canceled. They'd stopped playing that weird-ass game of cat and mouse with the good guys and bad guys both attending the same school and basically playing out their conflict by being snarky and/or sleeping with each other, and the body count was finally starting to ramp up.
LexCorp
02-07-2008, 10:51 AM
I liked the ghost friend. She was usually funny.
The sad thing is that it actually looked like it was starting to get interesting when it was canceled. They'd stopped playing that weird-ass game of cat and mouse with the good guys and bad guys both attending the same school and basically playing out their conflict by being snarky and/or sleeping with each other, and the body count was finally starting to ramp up.
Fatty friend was the worst for me. Always a bad time when she was on screen.
Captain_BluTac
02-07-2008, 12:24 PM
I hated the fat goth friend that died and became a ghost. The main lead girl was just a Keria Knightly type but worse...I just thought it was badly done.
The KK rip off played Lilith in the DW episode with Shakespeare in it.
LexCorp
02-07-2008, 12:26 PM
The KK rip off played Lilith in the DW episode with Shakespeare in it.
Ahh yeah that's where I know her from thanks
Captain_BluTac
02-07-2008, 12:35 PM
Actually that's a point I liked the Shakespeare episode, but I know a lot of people didn't.
Kahoot
02-07-2008, 01:05 PM
I feel very little shame for watching Torchwood. I've seen far worse. I used to watch Hex.
I used to watch Lexx :(
Kahoot
02-07-2008, 01:08 PM
Hex was really really bad stuff. Like a crosse between Torchwood and Skins...
Oh god no!
Torchwood is kinda funky most of the time but Skins is great, so Hex musta been great funky stuff.
Lord Valumart
02-07-2008, 01:14 PM
Torchwood is kinda funky most of the time but Skins is great, so Hex musta been great funky stuff.
there is no possible reasoning with a person who thinks this...:dry:
Captain_BluTac
02-07-2008, 01:18 PM
there is no possible reasoning with a person who thinks Skins is terrible, luckily sane people love Skins.
Fixed
Lord Valumart
02-07-2008, 01:23 PM
Fixed
i'd edit your post but to be honest you've already embaressed yourself enough
Captain_BluTac
02-07-2008, 01:27 PM
i'd edit your post but to be honest you've already embaressed yourself enough
Okay, well as long as I haven't embarrassed myself
Fry's Girl!!
02-07-2008, 01:35 PM
there is no possible reasoning with a person who thinks this...:dry:
*cough* :dry:
Lord Valumart
02-07-2008, 01:44 PM
*cough* :dry:
but i don;t have to reason with you...well not yet anyhow...
Bastila
02-07-2008, 03:46 PM
I never watched Hex. It looked like a Buffy rip off.
It wasn't though! Why do people say that, it wasn't about a chose one or fighting people on hellmouths.........
Hex was ok, I liked the red head in season 2/3 she was cool. But the main character liked...died I think and it got not as good really......
Obsidian
02-07-2008, 03:48 PM
What's the reason for the ridiculously high prices on the Doctor Who series collection dvds?
Bastila
02-07-2008, 03:57 PM
As they wont sell as much as other DVD's ? Who knows
TheCorpulent1
02-07-2008, 04:32 PM
I used to watch Lexx :(
No more discussion of bad shows, everybody. Kahoot wins.
04nbod
02-07-2008, 06:21 PM
What's the reason for the ridiculously high prices on the Doctor Who series collection dvds?
they don't sell as many as shows like 24 or buffy so they have to make the costs up. They usually have more special features than a usual TV show disk- every episode has a commentary and finally Stupid chumps like us will buy them at that price
Whirlysplat
02-07-2008, 07:46 PM
The disks cost a few pence to make.
04nbod
02-07-2008, 08:12 PM
The disks cost a few pence to make.
but they have to pay the guys to do the commentaries and david for his video diaries, production of featurettes and stuff. Its not the disk its the content
LexCorp
02-08-2008, 06:07 AM
No more discussion of bad shows, everybody. Kahoot wins.
Oh that tried to be sexy but failed so yeah no more talk.
Wow. Its been awhile since this place had some noir.
LexCorp
02-08-2008, 06:28 AM
Wow. Its been awhile since this place had some noir.
Impart your DR WHO skills now!
Captain_BluTac
02-08-2008, 11:17 AM
No Noir don't do it.
LexCorp
02-08-2008, 11:23 AM
No Noir don't do it.
Hey tac, so do you have the dr who dvds?
Captain_BluTac
02-08-2008, 11:27 AM
I am gonna start buying them when I have some spare cash, atm all I have is the first 3 episodes of series 1.
LexCorp
02-08-2008, 11:29 AM
I am gonna start buying them when I have some spare cash, atm all I have is the first 3 episodes of series 1.
Cool beans man!
Bastila
02-08-2008, 12:03 PM
Ok why buy the Doctor Who DVD's when the show is repeated again and again and again on UKTV all the time :p
And I'm ok I can watch it once, I would rather spend money on other dvd's.
Captain_BluTac
02-08-2008, 12:10 PM
Good point.
Whirlysplat
02-08-2008, 12:35 PM
but they have to pay the guys to do the commentaries and david for his video diaries, production of featurettes and stuff. Its not the disk its the content
Trust me most of the content is pretty cheap.
Mister Sinister
02-08-2008, 04:45 PM
Dunno if it's been mentioned but the forthcoming Five Doctors Anniversary DVD features a commentary by RTD and David Tennant.
TheCorpulent1
02-08-2008, 04:58 PM
Super-good.
04nbod
02-08-2008, 06:28 PM
Ok why buy the Doctor Who DVD's when the show is repeated again and again and again on UKTV all the time :p
And I'm ok I can watch it once, I would rather spend money on other dvd's.
oh how i love your avi! Paramore are the best band alive!
Dunno if it's been mentioned but the forthcoming Five Doctors Anniversary DVD features a commentary by RTD and David Tennant.
hmmphhh...now I'm going to have to buy it.
there is an article about the importance of doctor who to the US in variety
http://www.variety.com/article/VR1117980506.html?categoryid=1019&cs=1&nid=2562
TheCorpulent1
02-08-2008, 06:30 PM
oh how i love your avi! Paramore are the best band alive!
:csad:
Dunno if it's been mentioned but the forthcoming Five Doctors Anniversary DVD features a commentary by RTD and David Tennant.Why? Why god why?
04nbod
02-08-2008, 06:48 PM
:csad:
you got a problem?:hehe:
Whirlysplat
02-08-2008, 06:55 PM
:csad:
C1 enlighten me. What is "paramore", they sound like some dogdy emo/metal outfit.
Manic
02-08-2008, 07:11 PM
C1 enlighten me. What is "paramore", they sound like some dogdy emo/metal outfit.
Paramore is entirely different. They have a female lead singer. :dry:
TheCorpulent1
02-08-2008, 07:24 PM
Yeah, totally. They're like the worst of Avril Lavigne and the worst of Fallout Boy (or any other generic post-2000 pop-punk band) put together. They're staggeringly awful.
Whirlysplat
02-08-2008, 07:27 PM
Yeah, totally. They're like the worst of Avril Lavigne and the worst of Fallout Boy (or any other generic post-2000 pop-punk band) put together. They're staggeringly awful.
Ahh.... I understand now. Thank you.
Whirlysplat
02-08-2008, 07:28 PM
Paramore is entirely different. They have a female lead singer. :dry:
So, they are different to who? Blondie? Hole? Garbage? etc. etc. ad infinitum.
Captain_BluTac
02-08-2008, 07:31 PM
Paramore aren't that bad.
TheCorpulent1
02-08-2008, 07:41 PM
They're pretty bad.
Captain_BluTac
02-08-2008, 07:43 PM
They be pretty bad, but not as bad as Disney's Sword In The Stone.
Whirlysplat
02-08-2008, 07:44 PM
Is the female lead singer hot?
Captain_BluTac
02-08-2008, 07:46 PM
Is the female lead singer hot?
Not exactly.
Whirlysplat
02-08-2008, 07:47 PM
Not exactly.
They sound ****!
Captain_BluTac
02-08-2008, 07:49 PM
They sound ****!
http://www.timharmonphoto.com/blogs/paramore2.jpg
She could be worse.
Whirlysplat
02-08-2008, 07:51 PM
http://www.timharmonphoto.com/blogs/paramore2.jpg
She could be worse.
She looks like she might take lots of drugs. Grey skin etc.
TheCorpulent1
02-08-2008, 07:57 PM
They be pretty bad, but not as bad as Disney's Sword In The Stone.
That's a very ridiculous statement to make. :o
Captain_BluTac
02-08-2008, 07:58 PM
That's a very ridiculous statement to make. :o
It True.
TheCorpulent1
02-08-2008, 08:01 PM
It Not. :cmad:
Lord Valumart
02-09-2008, 01:10 PM
Dunno if it's been mentioned but the forthcoming Five Doctors Anniversary DVD features a commentary by RTD and David Tennant.
why the **** do they have RTD? has nothing to bloody do with it!!
Whirlysplat
02-09-2008, 01:38 PM
What? (Hehe)Tennant is probably the worst Doctor as well!
Manic
02-09-2008, 01:42 PM
So, they are different to who? Blondie? Hole? Garbage? etc. etc. ad infinitum.
I meant different from the average 'dodgey emo outfit.' In no way should Paramore be held in the same regard as Blondie or Garbage. I actually like Blondie and Garbage.
They be pretty bad, but not as bad as Disney's Sword In The Stone.
That movie is a classic. :cmad:
Whirlysplat
02-09-2008, 01:57 PM
I meant different from the average 'dodgey emo outfit.' In no way should Paramore be held in the same regard as Blondie or Garbage. I actually like Blondie and Garbage.
:up: O.K.
TheCorpulent1
02-09-2008, 03:17 PM
That movie is a classic. :cmad:
Recognize. :up:
Captain_BluTac
02-09-2008, 04:45 PM
I meant different from the average 'dodgey emo outfit.' In no way should Paramore be held in the same regard as Blondie or Garbage. I actually like Blondie and Garbage.
That movie is a classic. :cmad:
You just fancy Mad Madame Mimm.
Bastila
02-10-2008, 09:31 AM
http://www.timharmonphoto.com/blogs/paramore2.jpg
She could be worse.
Hayley is cool :up: I love her hair
oh how i love your avi! Paramore are the best band alive!
Cool, never knew you liked them awsome band, I would say they are me 2/3rd favourite band, Lacuna Coil I love to bits so they are always 1
I was going to say how did DW turn into a Paramore talk :woot:
Paramore aren't Emo or the other types of Emo lol I wouldn't like them if they where lol Im a metal head but Paramore I liked, I would put them in Altertive most record shops and online sites do or just rock really, but awsome band, I couldn't see them live this month :( so im sad now........
I like the poster that came with DWM.
Mister Sinister
02-10-2008, 09:49 AM
Moving swiftly on...
http://www.comicbookresources.com/news/newsitem.cgi?id=12936
TheCorpulent1
02-10-2008, 11:13 AM
Whoa, with Pia Guerra on art, I may actually pick up the Doctor Who comic after all.
Lord Valumart
02-10-2008, 12:30 PM
I like the poster that came with DWM.
with kyle rubbing herself against a dalek?
i'd take katy manning anyday...
Whirlysplat
02-10-2008, 12:41 PM
Zoe was the hottest assistant. She reminds me very much of the girl in Juno.
04nbod
02-10-2008, 02:30 PM
vote for billie and catherine at the glamour woman of the year awards
http://www.glamourmagazine.co.uk/promotions/woty08/
i voted billie as best actress and catherine for best comedy so that they both win
Whirlysplat
02-10-2008, 02:39 PM
vote for billie and catherine at the glamour woman of the year awards
http://www.glamourmagazine.co.uk/promotions/woty08/
i voted billie as best actress and catherine for best comedy so that they both win
You did? :( Why?
Lord Valumart
02-10-2008, 02:42 PM
Zoe was the hottest assistant. She reminds me very much of the girl in Juno.
shouldn't the girl in Juno remind you of Zoe:huh:
04nbod
02-10-2008, 02:44 PM
You did? :( Why?
i'm kooky like that:o
Lord Valumart
02-10-2008, 02:53 PM
i'm kooky like that:o
you should feel bad for all of the following
1. voting billie piper for best anything
2. voting catherine tate for best comedy
3. reading glamour
4. a lack of caring about Primeval...:ninja:
Whirlysplat
02-10-2008, 02:56 PM
shouldn't the girl in Juno remind you of Zoe:huh:
Probably, yes!
04nbod
02-10-2008, 03:07 PM
you should feel bad for all of the following
3. reading glamour
i don't read glamour!
4. a lack of caring about Primeval...:ninja:
my lack of caring about torchwood makes up for it!
LexCorp
02-11-2008, 04:34 AM
Has there been any latest news on the next season? Anything that would have popped up over the weekend?
Manic
02-11-2008, 04:38 AM
When does the next season even start airing? March?
04nbod
02-11-2008, 08:18 AM
late march/early april
and there is no news to report
When's it air in US? Like April ?
TheCorpulent1
02-11-2008, 08:57 AM
Is it a regular season or do Tennant's scheduling conflicts make it shorter or something?
Captain_BluTac
02-11-2008, 10:06 AM
Season 4 is normal (13 50 minute episodes airing over 14 weeks), season 5 will be comprised of 4 60 minute specials, S4 airs in March in the UK and late April in the US.
Bastila
02-11-2008, 11:24 AM
The only news today was a little bit in the paper but we all knew it, it was like Rose, Sarah Jane, Martha and Jack are back for the new season....knew that :p
Lord Valumart
02-11-2008, 01:11 PM
i honestly feel like i'm the only one who doesn;t give a carp about series 4 :csad:
Captain_BluTac
02-11-2008, 01:12 PM
I don't really care, yet, but I will when it airs.
Bastila
02-11-2008, 01:12 PM
I'll just watch it, I just find the Martha parts annoying...and any stupid plot lines RTD makes up
Lord Valumart
02-11-2008, 01:17 PM
i wish they'd actually learned from their mistakes in series 3 rather than just focusing on the fact that rose was in the first two and the first two were better so bring back rose...it really is just the most stupid pile of crap...i really wish rtd would just go away and die. dr who lasted 30 years on the same basic idea, and it never had romance, or family ties, or over use of sexual undertone...and it was awesome!! ofcourse it also had peter davison but so does the new series so why the hell is it so bad?
Captain_BluTac
02-11-2008, 01:19 PM
RTD said he will be retiring "soon" so thats good I spose.
Lord Valumart
02-11-2008, 01:33 PM
rtd fecked everything up by screwing with the show in the first place...it'll need someone like me to fix it...hmm
Captain_BluTac
02-11-2008, 01:38 PM
If you took over I would stop watching.
Lord Valumart
02-11-2008, 01:44 PM
i could do great things with dr who...i'd get rid of all that romantic crap, have him leave earth more often, bring back Adric, have less comedy moments, forget about special guests, and demand that i get to sit in the tardis to write...
Whirlysplat
02-11-2008, 02:28 PM
I would reboot totally. Forget everything except the premise. Go back for the first series to Susan causing teachers, and because it's the noughties social services. Update and truncate. Series one ends with the Timelords catching up with the Doctor and the Doctor being tried on Gallifrey. Series two starts with instead of him being Earthbound as a punishment, We have the jobbing for the Timelords plot. Who would I get to write it? Warren Ellis!
Reboot time. Who would I get to play the Doctor? James Nesbitt!
Captain_BluTac
02-11-2008, 02:38 PM
The doctor should regenerate, and get a new assistant, but I wouldn't want to completely forget everything that has happened.
Whirlysplat
02-11-2008, 02:40 PM
The doctor should regenerate, and get a new assistant, but I wouldn't want to completely forget everything that has happened.
I would love to forget the RTD Who. :(
Reboot.... It's the only answer.
Captain_BluTac
02-11-2008, 02:44 PM
A modern reboot would be terrible and thankfully will never happen.
Lord Valumart
02-11-2008, 02:47 PM
I would love to forget the RTD Who. :(
Reboot.... It's the only answer.
no...a writer who knows what he's doing along with a head writer to plan the progression of the series is whats needed...
really if VOTD didn;t kill fandom i don;t know what will...
Whirlysplat
02-11-2008, 02:47 PM
A modern reboot would be terrible and thankfully will never happen.
Never say never. RTD Dr. Who really has not been very successful, hence the BBC dropping it as a series and just going to specials.
Whirlysplat
02-11-2008, 02:48 PM
no...a writer who knows what he's doing along with a head writer to plan the progression of the series is whats needed...
really if VOTD didn;t kill fandom i don;t know what will...
It's viewing figures have been declining with each series.
Lord Valumart
02-11-2008, 02:49 PM
It's viewing figures have been declining with each series.
and primeval and torchwoods viewing figures have been genraly the same...hmm...
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