The "New" Doctor Who

[Manic]

Wacky Brit slang used to describe their equivalent of white trash, as I understand it.

[Captain_BluTac]

You're almost right Manic, so I wont type up the proper description... I'll copy and paste it. :D

From Urb some of it is clearly their for comic purposes , but you get the idea.


Chav
Derived from Chatham in Kent, this term can be applied loosely to every culture with a nasty, thieving element. There are many variants of this creature but all are subject to the following commonalities:

Chavs are completely Amoral, having never been subjected to right and wrong by their inattentive, uncaring and often absent parents.

Chavs are part Magpie, evidentially supported by their love of all things shiny, or as vacuous, illiterate street-slang would say 'Bling'. They can be seen stealing from the Jewellery counter in Argos/Index.

Whatever their ethnic background, Chavs have a built-in affinity to hip-hop/R&B, even if they are inherently racist (see the Scottish). They see their life as glamorous and cool.

Chavs are for the most part, extremely stupid. However, some of them render a form of low cunning, which can be misinterpreted as intelligence. However this is false. A Chav has no desire to better them self through honest means nor learn anything outside of car modification.

All chavs think that they are nails. Again, this is false. Sitting in a beaten up nova smoking lamberts does not precipitate a healthy body. The irony being that a Chav owns mainly sportswear, yet will only break a sweat if running from the police.

Chavs are incredibly fertile beasts, and are highly successful breeders. Where they come unstuck is having to look after the offspring which their 13 yr old drunken fumble produces. More often that not the child will crow to be a Chav, having received no more guidance on life than the parent.

Chavs have a fond love for cars, as well as a Vin Diesel fixation. Rather than buy a nice car to start with, a chav will spend all their dole and tax-free labouring cash on upgrading a 10 year old car with 200,000 miles on the clock. The end product will invariably be a luminous monstrosity with at least one serious collision to it's name.
Come back with my bumper, you ****ing Chav thief.

From Wikipedia.

Within the UK "chav" is often used to indicate a person(s) openly exhibiting many antisocial or irresponsible tendancies, particular examples include.

* Habitual, willing unemployment,
* Truancy (if of school age)
* Under age sexual activity, particularly if resulting in under age pregnancies,
* Assault or incitement to violence, including so called Happy slapping and co-ordinated intimidation.
* Theft,
* Criminal Vandalism,
* Profoundly hubristic behaviour including queue jumping, and enhanced sense of entitlement.
* Public Nuisance, in particular spitting, shouting or playing loud music on the street or on public transport.
* Hatred of the police and other authority figures
* Hatred of other subcultures, such as goths and emos.

Requests to keep the noise down, or to move along, are often met with aggression, assault and in some cases even murder [10] . Such individuals often have ASBO's imposed on them for their behaviour.
The issues of respect and authority are common points of contention, it is often claimed that chavs exhibit such behaviour because they aren't shown enough respect, and that society at large has yet to earn their respect. This is typified by a cavalier attitude to police and legal matters, (Indeed many "ASBO"s are considered badges of pride rather than meaningful warnings from society[11]) and ignorance of medical advice[12].
Such people are often, but not exclusively dressed in Chav Fashion. It is not known whether the behavioural stereotype, the fashion, or the union of the two was first named "Chav".
And a picture of chavs.

http://media.urbandictionary.com/image/page/chav-48372.jpg

Further Reading

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Chav
http://www.urbandictionary.com/define.php?term=chav

It should also be noted you can be white trash without being a chav, but you can't be a chav without being white trash, seriously even th rich kids take themselves down to that level. :o

[Manic]

Do chavs bare any resemblance to neds?

[BlackLantern]

wow BluTac...that was a fantastic presentation....you get a gold star and a naked Freema Agyeman

[Captain_BluTac]

wow BluTac...that was a fantastic presentation....you get a gold star and a naked Freema Agyeman

What you trying to punish me for. :cmad:

[Dr Lee]

If you don't want a naked Freema Agyeman, then i'll happily take her off your hands.

Cracker of an episode, loved the little Aploise? aliens and i didn't find Tate that bad at all.

Definate WTF moment with binperson.

[Manic]

Would it help if it was a naked, silent Freema Agyeman?

[BlackLantern]

What you trying to punish me for. :cmad:

you could just tell her not to talk....

[Captain_BluTac]

If you don't want a naked Freema Agyeman, then i'll happily take her off your hands.

I'll trade you a naked Freema for a clothed Tennant.

Cracker of an episode, loved the little Aploise? aliens and i didn't find Tate that bad at all.

the Aliens were Adipose and I love the character Donna anyway, partly because Catherine Tate is really one of those people you either love or hate, from interviews and her show I love her and partly because Donna is something different. :o

Definite WTF moment with bin person.

Your allowed to say Rose, it's been plastered all over the past 3 pages. :o

[Captain_BluTac]

you could just tell her not to talk....

Would it help if it was a naked, silent Freema Agyeman?

No, I still wouldn't want her. :o

[BlackLantern]

season/series 4 doesn't start for us here in the states for another 2 weeks...

[Manic]

Would it help if it was a naked, silent Freema Agyeman?
you could just tell her not to talk....

...

We're sexist. :csad:

[BlackLantern]

...

We're sexist. :csad:

everyone has their faults....

[Captain_BluTac]

season/series 4 doesn't start for us here in the states for another 2 weeks...

Your point?

[BlackLantern]

Your point?

just a random thought...BSG started last night so I have that to look forward to as well

[Dr Lee]

we brits bettere be careful what we say so we don'i ruin it all for the americans in here, is the point

[the_ultimate_evil]

i enjoyed it, agreed it wasn't one of the better ones but it certainly wasn't one of the worst. tate though i've never been a fan of her show does work here, its just good to see a companion who can basiclly tell the doctor where to go.

i did read one review that said once all 3 arrive there is sort of a family dynamic with tate as the mum and the rose and martha as the two kids. could go either way

[The Englishman]

we brits bettere be careful what we say so we don'i ruin it all for the americans in here, is the point
Well they dont give a **** when they are spoiling Lost for me....:oldrazz:

[Whirlysplat]

Chav probably comes from boy in gypsy. Generally Chav tends to just mean common.

[Dr Lee]

Well they dont give a **** when they are spoiling Lost for me....:oldrazz:

Then stay out of the Lost thread until you've seen the episode. Thats all i do, and it works fine for me.:oldrazz::oldrazz:

[Captain_BluTac]

Chav probably comes from boy in gypsy. Generally Chav tends to just mean common.

The word chav is a corruption of the gypsy word chavvy, which means child. :o

[Captain_BluTac]

Then stay out of the Lost thread until you've seen the episode. Thats all i do, and it works fine for me.
Dr Lee the same rule could apply to Americans in here. :o

[Whirlysplat]

The word chav is a corruption of the gypsy word chavvy, which means child. :o

Mainly boy actually. Although it can be applied to all children.

[Obsidian]

Just saw it and I have to admit I enjoyed it, despite some weak aspects of it. I kinda like the addition of Donna although it can be said she appears to be a bit obsessive about the Doctor. I like that they're going with a different companion, someone older and more outspoken. She'll certainly be a test for the Doctor. My favorite scene would be the Doctor and Donna's reunion where they're "playing" charades.:woot:

I really hated the reporter. And I thought Donna was annoying in "The Runaway Bride". This reporter was incredibly stupid.

[chamber-music]

The Adipose were so cute I would want one as a pet if they where real. Didn't that Cab run over some of them?

I swear I heard a squishy noise.
That reporter was annoying.

[DoctorJones]

Very very funny episode, I though when Donna and the Doctor see each over again was sure genius. And the Adipose were very adorable, I couldn't help but think of Wallace and Gromit in Curse of the Wererabbit when they floated. I didn't like Rose appearing, it was too distracting, nor the Wile E. Coyote falling noise when Miss Foster died.

What amazes me, is that I like Donna, and how refreshing it is to have a companion who isn't searching for love, but fun. We got Martha and Rose for that.

[~†~§iX~†~]

Bad Stuff
- The Doctor binned the Sonic Pen, he should of gave it to Donna so she could be more independent.


My first thought was that it will come back to bite the Doctor. Perhaps Donna's mum will find it while searching every nearby bin for her car keys? It just seems like the next light and sound toy that will be released in the shops, so for it to vanish after one episode seems a little off!......

[Magneto29]

If I were to pick up this show at the second season, would I be too confused ?

[TheCorpulent1]

You should be okay. The Doctor regenerates into a new form right at the start of the second season, so it's a new beginning even for him.

[04nbod]

If I were to pick up this show at the second season, would I be too confused ?

you'd miss an amazing first season and thats confusing enough

[TheCorpulent1]

Yeah, you'd also miss Chris Eccleston playing a much more charismatic Doctor, in my opinion, than Tennant's.

[kez1984]

Yeah, you'd also miss Chris Eccleston playing a much more charismatic Doctor, in my opinion, than Tennant's.

Yep, Eccleston was alot better.

[TheCorpulent1]

I could watch Eccleston play pretty much anything. I think he's a seriously underrated actor.

[The Englishman]

Then stay out of the Lost thread until you've seen the episode. Thats all i do, and it works fine for me.:oldrazz::oldrazz:
I Go in there because i want to be spoiled, hence it being a spoiler forum.......:oldrazz::oldrazz::oldrazz::oldrazz:

[Whirlysplat]

I have to agree with you guys. I think Eccleston was perhaps the perfect Dr.

[Magneto29]

Darn. The dvd's are so exspensive though...

[Whirlysplat]

Darn. The dvd's are so exspensive though...

That's the BBC, they rip off everyone!

[BlackLantern]

HBO does the same with their dvd sets here in the US...stuff like The Sopranos and Deadwood are much more pricier than other tv on dvd series.

[Whirlysplat]

HBO does the same with their dvd sets here in the US...stuff like The Sopranos and Deadwood are much more pricier than other tv on dvd series.

I buy my TV series DVDs secondhand usually... So, no issue for me. Unless it's something like my Firefly Box set!

[Manic]

I work at an electronics store, so I buy my DVD boxsets with an employee discount. Or I wait until our reports indicate a sale, and stash a copy for myself somewhere nobody will find it.

No one ever checks behind the documentaries! Mwahahaha!

[Manic]

Rather than wait 2 weeks, I decided to go ahead and "acquire" the series premier online...


Okay, so let's see what we've got here. Aliens led by blonde woman in power suit. Blonde woman in power suit uses a false name with a double-meaning. Aliens take advantage of the greedy Western lifestyle by feeding us something filled with alien lifeforms. Aliens enact their plan by becoming a large corporation. Our plucky hero, using a variation of a sonic screwdriver, breaks into their headquarters and tries to stop them. Toward the end, the aliens get desperate, and activate all of their alien lifeforms sitting inside of their customers/victims at the same time. Toss in a cameo from one of the Doctor's old sidekicks just for fun.

Now then. Did I just describe Doctor Who's "Partners in Crime" or the pilot episode of The Sarah Jane Adventures?

[Noir]

I think you described 90% of RTD run on DW too.

[Manic]

I think you described 90% of RTD run on DW too.
I think you're right. Watch how many tweaks I need to describe "Aliens of London/World War 3"



Okay, so let's see what we've got here. Aliens [co-]led by blonde woman in power suit. Blonde woman in power suit uses a false name [taken from victim]. Aliens take advantage of the [paranoid] Western lifestyle by [staging a space ship crash landing] filled with alien lifeforms. Aliens enact their plan by becoming [British government officials]. Our plucky hero, using a variation of a sonic screwdriver, [is taken to their base] and tries to stop them. Toward the end, the aliens get desperate, and activate all of their alien [brethren] sitting inside of their []victim['s skins] at the same time. Toss in a cameo from [] the Doctor's old [allies in UNIT] just for fun.

[DoctorJones]

I have to agree with you guys. I think Eccleston was perhaps the perfect Dr.

I hated his look though: short haircut and jacket made him look like a thug. I loved Eccleston's performance though, but I prefer Tennant's loopy fun. It's whether you prefer Pertwee or Baker, or Hartnell or Troughton. Odd numbered Doctors are serious, fatherly, even numbered ones tended to be more alien.

[Noir]

Jesus Chrriiiist this episode was SHHHHHHHHHHIIIIIIIIITTT!

[LexCorp]

So has the new season started already...

[Whirlysplat]

Jesus Chrriiiist this episode was SHHHHHHHHHHIIIIIIIIITTT!

So True!!!

I think you're right. Watch how many tweaks I need to describe "Aliens of London/World War 3"



Okay, so let's see what we've got here. Aliens [co-]led by blonde woman in power suit. Blonde woman in power suit uses a false name [taken from victim]. Aliens take advantage of the [paranoid] Western lifestyle by [staging a space ship crash landing] filled with alien lifeforms. Aliens enact their plan by becoming [British government officials]. Our plucky hero, using a variation of a sonic screwdriver, [is taken to their base] and tries to stop them. Toward the end, the aliens get desperate, and activate all of their alien [brethren] sitting inside of their []victim['s skins] at the same time. Toss in a cameo from [] the Doctor's old [allies in UNIT] just for fun.

Brilliant

[TheCorpulent1]

I thought it was all right. Donna looks like she'll be a much better companion than I would've given her credit for. It'll be nice to see someone who's not a moron and/or constantly fawning over the Doctor.

[Whirlysplat]

I thought it was all right. Donna looks like she'll be a much better companion than I would've given her credit for. It'll be nice to see someone who's not a moron and/or constantly fawning over the Doctor.

Here we disagree. I think she will be the most hated Who assistat since Bonnie Langford.

Sidebar: Bonnie Langford was also ginger!

[TheCorpulent1]

She could be annoying or she could be refreshing. It could go either way at this point. I liked her more in this episode than in "The Runaway Bride," though.

[Whirlysplat]

She could be annoying or she could be refreshing. It could go either way at this point. I liked her more in this episode than in "The Runaway Bride," though.

I don't like her at all. No but yer, but no but yer, but quite simply No, No, No, No! To you Ms. Tate. Goodbye and please let the door hit you on the way out!

[TheCorpulent1]

I don't know, maybe it's because this is my first exposure to her. Everybody seems to hate her from previous stuff she's done.

[Noir]

I felt they played the comedy alittle too much.. The "Just missed you" was played way too ****ing long.

[SpideyLad]

I don't like her at all. No but yer, but no but yer, but quite simply No, No, No, No! To you Ms. Tate. Goodbye and please let the door hit you on the way out!

That's Little Britain, not Catherine Tate....

[Captain_BluTac]

You beat me to it Spideylad, Catherine Tate does "Am I Bovvered" and "What A ****ing Liberty!" and personally I like her comedy, I have met people like all of her characters too some extent or another, Lauren reminds me of my best friend from school and the swearing Gran is the mirror image of my own Grandmother, right down to the haircut.:o

[DBella]

American viewers, do you guys (and gals) watch Doctor Who on SCIFI or BBC America? I was watching something on SCIFI yesterday and they showed a clip of the 'new' Doctor Who episode to be aired on Friday, April 18th. I've been watching the show on BBC America.

[Captain_BluTac]

American viewers, do you guys (and gals) watch Doctor Who on SCIFI or BBC America? I was watching something on SCIFI yesterday and they showed a clip of the 'new' Doctor Who episode to be aired on Friday, April 18th. I've been watching the show on BBC America.

The BBC made a deal with Sci Fi so new episodes of Doctor Who are shown A couple of weeks earlier on Sci Fi, than they are on BBCA.:o

[DBella]

The BBC made a deal with Sci Fi so new episodes of Doctor Who are shown A couple of weeks earlier on Sci Fi, than they are on BBCA.:o
Excellent! Thanks, C_B. I'll start watching on SCIFI from now. If only some network/cable channel here would pick up the newer episodes of MI-5, I'd be all set. BBCA is showing Season 3. :csad:

[TheCorpulent1]

They're airing the Sarah Jane Adventures before Doctor Who on Sci Fi, too.

[Captain_BluTac]

Yeah don't watch it, just under half the series is devoted to the Slitheen and the series was all kinds of crappy. :o

[Whirlysplat]

That's Little Britain, not Catherine Tate....

You miss the point... Bovvered! You talking about her family?

[Lord Valumart]

SJA was a bad idea from the start...the lack of K9 sealed the deal:down

[DBella]

They're airing the Sarah Jane Adventures before Doctor Who on Sci Fi, too.
I saw the clip and it didn't grab my interest.

[Gold Samurai]

The BBC made a deal with Sci Fi so new episodes of Doctor Who are shown A couple of weeks earlier on Sci Fi, than they are on BBCA.:o


I don't think we'll ever get this close between the BBC airings and Scifi. I think in the past it was a month or two after BBC wrapped up then the scifi aired the episodes.

We can only dream of a time when it's only a week after BBC has aired an episode lol

[Captain_BluTac]

I don't think we'll ever get this close between the BBC airings and Scifi. I think in the past it was a month or two after BBC wrapped up then the scifi aired the episodes.

We can only dream of a time when it's only a week after BBC has aired an episode lol

Sadly for you, it shall never happen Muahahahahahahahahaha.

[TheCorpulent1]

I saw the clip and it didn't grab my interest.
I saw the first episode and felt much the same, but if it's coming on just before Doctor Who, I'll probably end up watching it anyway.

[The Englishman]

SJA was a bad idea from the start...the lack of K9 sealed the deal:down
Why where the ****s K9????

[Lord Valumart]

Why where the ****s K9????

in a safe...orbiting a black hole...trying to close it...

[BlackLantern]

I don't think we'll ever get this close between the BBC airings and Scifi. I think in the past it was a month or two after BBC wrapped up then the scifi aired the episodes.

We can only dream of a time when it's only a week after BBC has aired an episode lol

I watch Doctor Who on both BBCA and Sci Fi, I'll be watching the new season on sci-fi....I'm not bothered by the 2 or 3 week delay at all. season 4 starts here on the 18th

[Manic]

I don't like her at all. No but yer, but no but yer, but quite simply No, No, No, No! To you Ms. Tate. Goodbye and please let the door hit you on the way out!
That's Little Britain, not Catherine Tate....
Yeah. I can't believe you confused Catherine Tate with a gay man.

How very dare you.

[chamber-music]

Yeah. I can't believe you confused Catherine Tate with a gay man.

How very dare you.
:lmao:
http://www.bgassociates.com/images/GMDC%20TOUCHE.jpg

[Whirlysplat]

Yeah. I can't believe you confused Catherine Tate with a gay man.

How very dare you.

:cwink:

[Noir]

I R Liek Donna.

[chamber-music]

Dr Who Keeps going Backwards
http://pics.livejournal.com/rachyque/pic/0003ws0p/s320x240 (http://pics.livejournal.com/rachyque/pic/0003ws0p/)

Russell T. Davies has dragged Doctor Who, the BBC's veteran time-travel show, into the 1990s. His confessed influences include early Buffy, but the revamped Who has always reminded me of some other 90s shows, including X-Files and, more and more, of Lois and Clark, with its focus on a male-female couple and their romantic/sexual tension or lack thereof. It's too bad Doctor Who remains about a decade behind the times, even as it keeps mining its own past. Spoilers for the season opener below the fold.


The comparison between this weekend's season premieres of Battlestar Galactica and Doctor Who does the latter no favors, unfortunately. BSG was all fresh, dark and conspiracy-minded, with lots of throat-cutting and screaming action. Who was at its absolute campiest, schlocky and backward-looking. It honestly felt kind of old-school compared with BSG.

As with the old Lois and Clark Superman series, the new Doctor Who tries to invert the traditional Doctor-companion relationship, putting the companion in the starring role. And as with Lois and Clark, the device feels a bit hollow, because the Doctor is still the one we're invested in, the person who saves the day.

The shocking twist this time around is that the companion, Donna, isn't in love with the Doctor. She pursues him and desperately needs him to fill an emptiness in her life — but it's a need for adventure, not love. It's not as much of a difference as I'd hoped, because her life is still totally worthless without the Doctor, as we're shown at great length. The only reason she's even investigating the evildoings of Adipose is because she hopes the Doctor will show up there too.

Whether you think this new spin on the Doctor-companion dynamic is enough to sustain a whole season may depend largely on how much you like the clip above, where the Doctor and Donna have a mimed reunion while they're both spying on the same barely-a-supervillain. My sympathies are entirely with Miss Foster, who wants to know if her evil scheme is interrupting their long ASL processing conversation. But to be fair, the plot of "Partners In Crime" is so thin, there's not that much for the Doctor and Donna to interrupt.

Speaking of being fair, I made a resolution last year, after I watched the end of season three — the bit where the Doctor suddenly returns to youth after being aged 900 years — and levitates — because everyone on Earth believes in him. That moment was simultaneously so amazing, and yet so awful, that it totally destroyed my critical faculties. I decided that you can't really judge Russell T.'s work based on any normal standards of good or bad. You just have to take it on its own terms.

But even if you judge "Partners In Crime" on its own terms, as a "jolly romp," it's just barely okay. It doesn't quite ever muster enough verve to be a real romp. And the jollity is a bit forced. A lot of the clever bits feel a bit rehashed, as if Russell T. is running through his greatest hits. Especially the relationship between Donna and her mom, who feels entirely like a stock character made up of pieces of Jackie and Martha's mother. And the main plot, with the fat people who make farting noises and then have babies burst out of them, is literally a rehash of the Slitheen. Except that this time it's not evil aliens pretending to be fat people, it's innocent fat people who give birth to evil aliens. And the alien babies are actually babies this time, instead of just looking baby-like.

I take comfort in the fact that the previous two season openers were also paper-thin: the one in the hospital with the cat-nuns, where the hospital gets sealed off and there's an evil secret. And the one in the hospital with the Judoon, where the hospital gets sealed off and there's an evil secret. Russell T. has a record of tossing out his fluffiest episode first, and then getting into the heavier stuff later. And indeed, everyone who's seen next week's Pompeii episode says it's miles better than the army-of-babies one, with Donna actually showing more emotional range.

Meanwhile, I'd be remiss if I didn't mention that the episode sets up some mysteries for the season's overall arc. The main one, of course, is the Rose-ghost whom Donna tells about the car keys in the rubbish bin. (Which, if I was Donna's mom, would be grounds for disowning her, by the way.) Then there's also the question of where Miss Foster got her own version of the Doctor's sonic screwdriver, but there's a good chance we'll never find out. And then it's possible there's some significance to the fact that Donna and her grandfather Wilf both met the Doctor separately, a year apart. But it's probably just a coincidence. (And why wasn't Wilf at the wedding anyway?)

But, yes, it was a jolly romp, and it was nice to see David Tennant jutting his chin and shouting, "Oh, yes!" again. And a still-impressive 8.4 million Brits tuned in. So even if you hope (like me) that we're reaching the tail end of the RTD era of Who, the phenomenon still seems to be going strong. And I'm pretty sure there are better episodes ahead. What did you think?

It was pretty obvious RTD loved him some Buffy although I don't really see the X Files influence.

[TheCorpulent1]

I suspect it relates to the conspiracy stuff. You know, all the government conspiracies on Earth related to alien influences. Plus, there was the Bad Wolf and Vote Saxon! season-long conspiracies.

Donna's life really was sad, though. It's one thing for Martha and Rose to be living with their parents (although I don't even think Martha was), but Donna's gotta be in her 40s. Get a job, get a life, and move the hell out. :o

[Noir]

Its funny, I thought RTD got his inspiration from this:

http://i164.photobucket.com/albums/u2/rabbidturtleracing/poop-1.jpg

[Whirlysplat]

Its funny, I thought RTD got his inspiration from this:

http://i164.photobucket.com/albums/u2/rabbidturtleracing/poop-1.jpg

:up:

[Noir]

Whats this season "secret word".. And does anyone find it weird that the Doctor isn't noticing this stuff? Like: "What the hell is up with this!? three times in a row!?"
That secret word **** really started to get to me.. I hope they don't bring it back.
I could just see it now, The Doctor is now being followed by the word "Rovsad".. actually, now that I just thought of it.. I think that would be cool because Rovsad in Russian is "Город" anyone want to guess what I'm getting at here?

[TheCorpulent1]

The Doctor starts another Cold War? :huh:

[Noir]

Rovsad = Davros anagrammed
Город = "Home" in Russian.

[TheCorpulent1]

So... the Daleks were made in Russia? :huh:

[Noir]

Davros comes back.. and so do the Time Lords..
But, one can only wish. This seasons secret word is probably something like "BINGOHALL" and it turns out Davros is running a Dalek factory disguised as a Bingo hall.

[TheCorpulent1]

Meh, I wish they could just do a series where the Doctor's like, "**** all the rules, I'm bringing my people back." Then he spends the entire series crossing his own timeline, breaking lots of other rules, and ultimately pre-empting the last Time War, bringing the Time Lords back in the last few episodes. That would be tons better than another series of mindless pissing about for 11 episodes before everything important happens in the 2-part finale.

[Noir]

I think we deserve to get Adric back too. :o

[chamber-music]

Davros comes back.. and so do the Time Lords..
But, one can only wish. This seasons secret word is probably something like "BINGOHALL" and it turns out Davros is running a Dalek factory disguised as a Bingo hall.

I wish the Time Lords came back. I like when The Doctor had run ins with other time lords. The whole emo last son of Krypton thing has been done to death in a million sci fi stories.

[TheCorpulent1]

Yeah, seriously. I also don't need another story about how lonely the Doctor is without his retard companion.

[Noir]

I want to see the Time Lords come back and see them put him on trial for killing them all. I know it was a last ditch effort on part of the Doctor but the Time Lords were never a very competent race. :D

[TheCorpulent1]

That should be his defense: "Well, come on, guys, let's not kid ourselves here. You were never very competent as a race, am I right?"

[BlackLantern]

as far as the whole "magic word" thing goes.....does anyone think it could have been done differently or is it just a silly story device? I didn't mind it as it lead into something....we don't get stuff like that in American sci-fi lately

[TheCorpulent1]

I thought it was done pretty well the times it was done. It's just overused at this point. It's too much even for the considerable suspension of disbelief required for watching Doctor Who in the first place to have a magic word that follows the Doctor around... every... bloody... year.

[Noir]

That should be his defense: "Well, come on, guys, let's not kid ourselves here. You were never very competent as a race, am I right?"I just want him to think he's landing somewhere and when steps out of the TARDIS he steps right in the middle of a Gallifreyian court room and the Time Lord judge just pokes her head up.. we get a "What! What!? WHAT!?" titles, then after he's done freaking out we get a nice line like "Not Again..."


Hell, they could write the return of the Time Lords off as the Time Lord Matrix still being out in space then activating at a certain time after-ward.. I also think it would be funny if they some how turned off the Time Lord psychic connection with the Doctor just so he wouldn't "Cause more trouble."

[Gold Samurai]

Davros comes back.. and so do the Time Lords..
But, one can only wish. This seasons secret word is probably something like "BINGOHALL" and it turns out Davros is running a Dalek factory disguised as a Bingo hall.


It's "KITCHENSINK" and you know it!!!

It reminds me of the "Christmas Story" and the decoder word. Roses final dying words are

"Be......Sure......to......Drink........your.....Ov altine"

[Captain_BluTac]

Why where the ****s K9????

Redesigned in a new show (not yet aired) for Jetix.:o

[Captain_BluTac]

And then it's possible there's some significance to the fact that Donna and her grandfather Wilf both met the Doctor separately, a year apart. But it's probably just a coincidence. (And why wasn't Wilf at the wedding anyway?)

That mildly *****y comment is stupid as Donna's grandfather is their to replace her father because the actor died a few days into filming. :o So where does this crappy review come from?

[Lord Valumart]

Redesigned in a new show (not yet aired) for Jetix.:o

we don;t talk about that...

[Captain_BluTac]

we don;t talk about that...

You never know it may be better than TSJA as RTD has nothing to do with it. :o

[TheCorpulent1]

That's a definite plus. :up:

[Captain_BluTac]

Pics

http://www.sylvestermccoy.com/k9adventures/k9.jpghttp://www.sylvestermccoy.com/k9adventures/K9poster.jpghttp://www.sylvestermccoy.com/k9adventures/K9-poster-newa.jpg


Only thing that may be rubbish about it is the producer is Australian and most Australian shows I have seen are so very, very bad. :o

[Lord Valumart]

You never know it may be better than TSJA as RTD has nothing to do with it. :o

well if RTD isn;t involved...

we still don;t talk about it...

[TheCorpulent1]

"Who's a good dog" is such a bad slogan. :(

[Gold Samurai]

WILF is the magic word this season

Wilf = Will I Live Forever........... he is Davrossss

>_>
<_<

[TheCorpulent1]

That would make Donna, like, 1/16th Dalek!

[Captain_BluTac]

That would make Donna, like, 1/16th Dalek!


It would explain, why her mum (Sylvia) is such a *****. :o

[Captain_BluTac]

"Who's a good dog" is such a bad slogan. :(

Its a play on the new DW's promo slogan "Guess Who's back". :o

[Captain_BluTac]

well if RTD isn;t involved...

we still don;t talk about it...

Oh, but I wanna, it may be crappy but, I wanna watch it. :o

[TheCorpulent1]

Its a play on the new DW's promo slogan "Guess Who's back". :o
Which... still makes it bad. :o

[Lord Valumart]

Oh, but I wanna, it may be crappy but, I wanna watch it. :o

lies!!:cmad::cmad:

[Captain_BluTac]

Secretly me too.:o:o

Fixed.

[Lord Valumart]

Broken.

fixed

[Captain_BluTac]

Must keep up this misguided facade.

Fixed, now admit that you will watch it!:cmad::cmad::cmad:

[chamber-music]

That mildly *****y comment is stupid as Donna's grandfather is their to replace her father because the actor died a few days into filming. :o So where does this crappy review come from?

what the hell :huh:

I don't recall typing the comment you where quoting.........I think some trickery is a foot

[Lord Valumart]

Must be an ass!:cmad::cmad::cmad:

i'll never watch it

[Captain_BluTac]

what the hell :huh:

I don't recall typing the comment you where quoting.........I think some trickery is a foot

It was a quote from that review you posted. :o

[Captain_BluTac]

I will watch it and like it, then make sweet freaky love to RTD

You little freak. :o

[Lord Valumart]

I made freak love to RTD last night with a can of cheese spray and an onion. :o

i think you're the freak here

[Captain_BluTac]

Admit it you're a freak, like me.

Yes you are a freak now all you need to do is admit you will watch "K9" and will be sorted.

[Lord Valumart]

Sweet sweet robot doggy love.

i'll never watch it...i don't even watch SJA...

[Captain_BluTac]

I will watch it and buy it on DVD then make sexy time with SJS and her mum

I knew it!

[Lord Valumart]

I knew it!

we all wanna do SJS...and her mum would be dead:huh::huh:

[Captain_BluTac]

we all wanna do SJS...and her mum would be dead:huh::huh:
I don't and in that case you're one sick puppy. :o

[SpideyLad]

Whats this season "secret word".. And does anyone find it weird that the Doctor isn't noticing this stuff? Like: "What the hell is up with this!? three times in a row!?"
That secret word **** really started to get to me.. I hope they don't bring it back.
I could just see it now, The Doctor is now being followed by the word "Rovsad".. actually, now that I just thought of it.. I think that would be cool because Rovsad in Russian is "Город" anyone want to guess what I'm getting at here?

Apparently we're not getting a "Secret Word" this season. Instead, each episode is going to have something that will be carried across to the series finale. From Partner's In Crime it'll most likely be Rose, or the way that the Doctor got rid of the Sonic Pen.

[IronLion]

the way he made a point of mentioning the pen then just getting rid of it, you know its gonna come back to haunt him.

[TheCorpulent1]

Is there supposed to be something special about the sonic pen? The Time Lords can't be the only species in the entire universe crafty enough to build sonic stuff, right?

[BlackLantern]

Is there supposed to be something special about the sonic pen? The Time Lords can't be the only species in the entire universe crafty enough to build sonic stuff, right?

How about a sonic toilet?

[TheCorpulent1]

Not very portable, but I suppose it'd work.

[The Lizard]

I like Donna just fine now. I also liked how it was made clear that Donna was not interested in the Doctor romantically at all. Of course, that was always the case back in the pre-RTD days, but I guess until the Doctor goes back to being an old man (if that EVER happens again), the threat of companion-crushes will be there.

The Adipose babies looked like Pokemon. "Fatblob, I choose YOU!"

[BlackLantern]

I understand how some of the hardcore fans want Old Man Doctor...but the TV audience at large doesn't want to see an old geezer running around from monsters and creepy crawlers....I did some reading on the original series and I saw a picture of the "Whomobile"....jeezus christ that thing looks like a Volkswagen and a Go Kart made angry love and abandoned their baby on the steps of a monastery....

[The Lizard]

Yeah, there hasn't really been an older-looking Doctor since Pertwee left and Baker took over in the mid-'70s, unless you count Sylvester McCoy.

[Manic]

Is there supposed to be something special about the sonic pen? The Time Lords can't be the only species in the entire universe crafty enough to build sonic stuff, right?
Are the Time Lords even the ones who make the Doctor's sonic screwdrivers? I get the impression Jack didn't run into too many Time Lords before the Doctor, but he had sonic equipment. The Master had a laser screwdriver (who'd have sonic?). If I remember my DVDs correctly, Romana wasn't even familiar with sonic screwdrivers.

Plus, when the Doctor destroyed his sonic screwdriver in "Smith & Jones" he had a brand new one by the end of the episode. I doubt he got it from Gallifrey.

[TheCorpulent1]

So what's the big deal with sonic technology, then? Why is the Doctor all surprised to find that the nanny has a sonic pen when, apparently, anyone with sufficient smarts can build one?
I understand how some of the hardcore fans want Old Man Doctor...but the TV audience at large doesn't want to see an old geezer running around from monsters and creepy crawlers....I did some reading on the original series and I saw a picture of the "Whomobile"....jeezus christ that thing looks like a Volkswagen and a Go Kart made angry love and abandoned their baby on the steps of a monastery....
It's not so much the old man Doctor I want back as the platonic nature of the old Doctor/companion relationship. That's part of the reason I'm looking forward to this season more than I have to any season since the first RTD season (when I didn't know better). Hopefully, RTD can keep his writing penis in his metaphorical pants and keep things platonic for once instead of turning Doctor Who into his personal fantasy soap opera.

[SpideyLad]

the way he made a point of mentioning the pen then just getting rid of it, you know its gonna come back to haunt him.

That's exactly what I mean. It's clearly gonna come back.

[Gold Samurai]

I understand how some of the hardcore fans want Old Man Doctor...but the TV audience at large doesn't want to see an old geezer running around from monsters and creepy crawlers....I did some reading on the original series and I saw a picture of the "Whomobile"....jeezus christ that thing looks like a Volkswagen and a Go Kart made angry love and abandoned their baby on the steps of a monastery....

If we had an old doctor he couldn't run down those long corridors RTD loves so much LOL

Yeah the pertwee era seemed campy

"I'll take my whomobile with the whochopper and whobike. I also have who shark repellant!"

[TheCorpulent1]

I'd like another badass Doctor like Pertwee's. Having the Doctor run around and resort to technological trickery every episode gets a little old. It'd be fun to see him just hit someone every now and then.

[Whirlysplat]

I'd like another badass Doctor like Pertwee's. Having the Doctor run around and resort to technological trickery every episode gets a little old. It'd be fun to see him just hit someone every now and then.

You had one in Eccleston... Although words were his weapon.

[BlackLantern]

well Eccleston left of his own accord because he didn't want to get typecast....sci fi still has that stigma in the tv landscape....look at all the actors that have worked on Star Trek...there are only 3 or 4 that have had notable careers after working on Star Trek.

[TheCorpulent1]

Yeah, I miss Eccleston. I understand he was afraid of being typecast, but he really cut his time as the Doctor short. :(

Tennant's Doctor had that swordfight with the Sycorax, but it was kind of lame.

[SpideyLad]

well Eccleston left of his own accord because he didn't want to get typecast....sci fi still has that stigma in the tv landscape....look at all the actors that have worked on Star Trek...there are only 3 or 4 that have had notable careers after working on Star Trek.

That's the same reason why Peter Davison stopped being the Doctor after 2 years.:csad:

[BlackLantern]

When I went to sdcc last year, I had a chance to talk to Aaron Douglas (Chief Tyrol on BSG) for like 5 minutes and I asked what is the biggest challenge that actors face working in sci fi as opposed to working in other genres....and in a very nice way he said it was the fandom and the looming possibility of typecasting...

[TheCorpulent1]

Typecasting I get, but the fandom? What's his beef with the people that pay his bills?

[Gold Samurai]

It's the way the fandom is percieved

fat basement dwelling geeks that type on messageboards about who the final cylon is

It'd be fun to see him just hit someone every now and then.


but not on the level of knowing kungfu LOL. I've seen the retrospective on his doctor as being an old guy with lots of gadgets, frilly shirts(it was the 70's) and more gadgets than batman.

[TheCorpulent1]

McGann had the balls to do the frilly shirt and velvet coat in the '90s. :)

[BlackLantern]

Typecasting I get, but the fandom? What's his beef with the people that pay his bills?

He meant the off kilter type fans, the ones that are always trying to sneak onto the set or lot and make a nuisance of themselves...He was one of 5 actors from BSG there and they all did autographs and Q and A's at one point or another during the convention. He had said some of the actors don't like doing conventions or any of that stuff...he seemed to like it though

[TheCorpulent1]

Oh, the crazy fans. That's cool.

[chamber-music]

McGann had the balls to do the frilly shirt and velvet coat in the '90s. :)

Thats because his a Pimp :cwink:

[Lord Valumart]

McGann had the balls to do the frilly shirt and velvet coat in the '90s. :)

he never...he was forced

he was also strongly warned by his then agent not to do dr who...

[TheCorpulent1]

Doctor Who in general, or that particular TV-movie?

[Lord Valumart]

in general i beleive...his agent was tegan :o

[TheCorpulent1]

Whoa, really? Bad memories for her on Who, I guess?

[Lord Valumart]

yeh...she probably thought that like most of the who actors he'd be type cast to hell. davison is really the only one thats gotten any real work after who...

[TheCorpulent1]

And now Eccleston.

[Lord Valumart]

well he had stuff lined up before who had even been shown...

[TheCorpulent1]

Exactly. If Doctor Who is their breakout role, they're always going to be associated with it. If they're already coming up on their own, Doctor Who is just another step on the way to greater professional recognition. Did any of the other Doctors have careers as critically distinguished as Eccleston's before they played the Doctor?

[Lord Valumart]

only davison i think...and pertwee...

[BlackLantern]

I first saw Eccleston as the bad guy in "Gone in 60 Seconds"...he had a really bad haircut that made him look like a girl. I first saw David Tennant in one of the Harry Potter films as Barty Crouch (sp?) a villain as well....

[DoctorJones]

The Adipose babies looked like Pokemon. "Fatblob, I choose YOU!"

http://faqsmedia.ign.com/faqs/image/ani035.gif

Precisely what I was thinking!

[Captain_BluTac]

I think a Ditto would be a closer match. :o
http://faqsmedia.ign.com/faqs/image/ani132.gif

[chamber-music]

I first saw Eccleston as the bad guy in "Gone in 60 Seconds"...he had a really bad haircut that made him look like a girl. I first saw David Tennant in one of the Harry Potter films as Barty Crouch (sp?) a villain as well....

I didn't even realise Eccleston was in Gone In 60 Seconds until after he was in Doctor Who. I remember him from 'Let Him Have It' which was one of my favourite films when I was younger and a good film worth checking out.

He was in a couple of Danny Boyle films too. Shallow Grave and 28 Days Later.

[04nbod]

i was watching my friends copy of gone in 60 seconds. it got half way through and broke

[TheCorpulent1]

I remembered Eccleston from 28 Days Later.

[Whirlysplat]

I remembered Eccleston from 28 Days Later.

And that one with the fragrant Nicole Kidman, where they are all ghosts but don't know it.

[TheCorpulent1]

Oh, he was in that? The Others, I think it was called.

[Lord Valumart]

i was watching my friends copy of gone in 60 seconds. it got half way through and broke

gone in 60 is nothing but dirt filthy car porn...and i loves it:woot::woot:

[Gold Samurai]

I saw Ecchelston this past week in Kate Blanchett's "Elizabeth" the first one.
http://img292.imageshack.us/img292/1731/24609294dp4.jpg
It's interesting that him and Daniel Craig were in a series together

[Lord Valumart]

eccelston was also in a few eps of clocking off...as was simm...both ruled their parts...

[Noir]

How would you guys do a Doctor Who movie?
Which Doctor would you use?
What villains?
What companion?

[Lord Valumart]

1. How would you guys do a Doctor Who movie?
2. Which Doctor would you use?
3. What villains?
4. What companion?

1. not the standard invasion of earth thing, something with more oomf to it...like with the start of the 5 doctors but then an actual plot and point to the stuff happening
2. current dr to avoid confusion, but secretly i'd want mcgann
3. master, jacobi, and cybermen, mondas
4. again, current companions to avoid confusion....

[TheCorpulent1]

**** confusion, pretty much anyone other than the current companions would be preferable. :o

[Noir]

I'd really like an "anthology" movie, each story with a different Doctor then one at the end that ties them all together with the current Doctor, like Heavy Metal except all the stories would feature a different Doctor banishing or destroying an enemy in a certain then at the end it's defeated once and for all by the current Doctor.

[Lord Valumart]

**** confusion, pretty much anyone other than the current companions would be preferable. :o

yeh, but rtd wouldn;t write a movie cause there's no way his scripts would work in a 2 hour movie...i say get marky to write a movie...he knows what to do with dr who...or get the chap who wrote the satan pit...i bet they could write a good movie...

[Whirlysplat]

Oh, he was in that? The Others, I think it was called.

He played the beautiful Nicoles husband....and he was not a short scientologist!!!!!

[TheCorpulent1]

yeh, but rtd wouldn;t write a movie cause there's no way his scripts would work in a 2 hour movie...i say get marky to write a movie...he knows what to do with dr who...or get the chap who wrote the satan pit...i bet they could write a good movie...
I wouldn't want RTD to write a movie. Would you? :huh: I don't think you're getting the whole "fantasy" aspect of this hypothetical...

[Whirlysplat]

I wouldn't want RTD to write a movie. Would you? :huh: I don't think you're getting the whole "fantasy" aspect of this hypothetical...

RTDs worst thing was when he attempted a soap opera. Guess what? He had teenage BDSM, Homosexuality everywhere and the family involved was a Vicars. It was called Revelations and was thankfully canned after 10 episodes. I mentioned it in my informative Cult TV thread!

[Lord Valumart]

I wouldn't want RTD to write a movie. Would you? :huh: I don't think you're getting the whole "fantasy" aspect of this hypothetical...

i'm a dr who fan...i obviously don;t get the whole fantasy aspect of most things...

[Whirlysplat]

I wouldn't want RTD to write a movie. Would you? :huh: I don't think you're getting the whole "fantasy" aspect of this hypothetical...

JMS or Whedon would get the Dr. right :up:

[Lord Valumart]

JMS or Whedon would get the Dr. right :up:

whedon wouldn;t get the dr right...

he strikes me as the kinda guy that would be unable to write the kinda storys he has for his characters for other previously establish characters...

[Whirlysplat]

whedon wouldn;t get the dr right...

he strikes me as the kinda guy that would be unable to write the kinda storys he has for his characters for other previously establish characters...

Come on a pile of turd is superior to English writers. Look at Moffatt and Jekyll. He starts it brilliantly and doesn't know how to finish the thing. The final episode is ****.

[Lord Valumart]

Come on a pile of turd is superior to English writers. Look at Moffatt and Jekyll. He starts it brilliantly and doesn't know how to finish the thing. The final episode is ****.

never seen jekyll cause i don;t really like the guy in it...

but whedon should get going on serenity 2 :o

[Whirlysplat]

never seen jekyll cause i don;t really like the guy in it...

but whedon should get going on serenity 2 :o

Jekyll really starts brilliantly. It blows the socks off anything we have done for the first few episodes. Then it gets to the finale and it crashes and it crashes badly!

[Noir]

I like Moffatt.. He's infinitely better than RTD.

[Whirlysplat]

I like Moffatt.. He's infinitely better than RTD.

No doubt he is, that said, he couldn't finish Jekyll.

[TheCorpulent1]

whedon wouldn;t get the dr right...

he strikes me as the kinda guy that would be unable to write the kinda storys he has for his characters for other previously establish characters...
Depends on whether he has an existing love for the characters. He's writing a mean X-Men right now. It still definitely has the tone of his own creations, though. He even makes Kitty Pryde the focus 9 times out of 10, presumably because, in lieu of an actual teenage girl, Kitty's the closest thing he could get.

[Whirlysplat]

Depends on whether he has an existing love for the characters. He's writing a mean X-Men right now. It still definitely has the tone of his own creations, though. He even makes Kitty Pryde the focus 9 times out of 10, presumably because, in lieu of an actual teenage girl, Kitty's the closest thing he could get.

He and Logan share an affinity... Interestingly Ellen Page links Kitty to Paedophilia via Hard Candy almost as much as Wolverine does. Wolverine's favourite DC drinking buddies I suspect would be Deathstroke and Batman, down at the "Chicken Ranch".

[Lord Valumart]

Depends on whether he has an existing love for the characters. He's writing a mean X-Men right now. It still definitely has the tone of his own creations, though. He even makes Kitty Pryde the focus 9 times out of 10, presumably because, in lieu of an actual teenage girl, Kitty's the closest thing he could get.

well thats not really anything different from the past few series of dr who...somehow the companions become the main point of the show:huh:

[Whirlysplat]

well thats not really anything different from the past few series of dr who...somehow the companions become the main point of the show:huh:

One things for sure both JMS and Whedon would cast more attractive female assistants. :up: They have a track record for it!

[TheCorpulent1]

Because they're easier point-of-view characters, plus making them the focus makes the Doctor seem more mysterious and otherworldly. That's what the impetus is narratively. I think it's stupid, given that many people have, at this point, known the Doctor for decades.

[Whirlysplat]

Because they're easier point-of-view characters, plus making them the focus makes the Doctor seem more mysterious and otherworldly. That's what the impetus is narratively. I think it's stupid, given that many people have, at this point, known the Doctor for decades.

The Doctor should be the "on coming storm" instead he is a bad Jarvis Cocker impersonation. He is about as otherworldly as a self proclaimed "trendy" geography teacher!

[Mister Sinister]

Christmas special filming underway, pics over at DWF, it's set in the Victorian era and the villains are Cybermen

[TheCorpulent1]

Again? Yay. :dry:

[Whirlysplat]

Again? Yay. :dry:

:( Whirly smash gay welsh fat man!
:bh:





Sidebar: RTD has the corner on being a minority. I mean how many obese, homosexual, welsh men can their be!

[Obsidian]

Christmas special filming underway, pics over at DWF, it's set in the Victorian era and the villains are Cybermen

New villians! why can't they have new villians (and more well thought out than that Max guy in "Voyage of the Damned")?!

[BlackLantern]

I think Whedon could do the Doctor justice.....as for the "Oncoming Storm" bit, I know some fans want him to be this quasi bada$$ but I have always viewed him as a traveler

[Gold Samurai]

Looks like The Wire is hungry again LOL

http://i163.photobucket.com/albums/t305/kinda_one/DSCF4847b.jpg

[chamber-music]

I saw Ecchelston this past week in Kate Blanchett's "Elizabeth" the first one.
http://img292.imageshack.us/img292/1731/24609294dp4.jpg
It's interesting that him and Daniel Craig were in a series together
Mark Strong was in 'Our friends In The North' too

The only one to not get a career boost is the women by the looks of things.
The Doctor should be the "on coming storm" instead he is a bad Jarvis Cocker impersonation. He is about as otherworldly as a self proclaimed "trendy" geography teacher!
He does look a bit like Jarvis Cocker :funny:

[Gold Samurai]

The woman had a role in 1999's "Notting Hill" with Hugh Grant

JMS or Whedon would get the Dr. right :up:

Whedon would turn Rose into a butt kicking heroine while the doctor stands in the background and mentors Rose

[TheCorpulent1]

... and occasionally breaks into song. :)

[Manic]

I wouldn't mind the Doctor having a companion that could fight. I remember hearing Freema had some martial arts experience, and I was disappointed when that wasn't utilized in the show. I was also disappointed when Martha's medical experience wasn't utilized in the show, but that's a whole 'nother kettle of fish.

Basically, I'm tired of seeing the Doctor and his companion run from everything. "No Jack. Don't use your gun. We'll run!"

[BlackLantern]

Marthas' med experience got use in Torchwood....

[TheCorpulent1]

I wouldn't mind the Doctor having a companion that could fight. I remember hearing Freema had some martial arts experience, and I was disappointed when that wasn't utilized in the show. I was also disappointed when Martha's medical experience wasn't utilized in the show, but that's a whole 'nother kettle of fish.

Basically, I'm tired of seeing the Doctor and his companion run from everything. "No Jack. Don't use your gun. We'll run!"
Yeah, what's the deal with that? The Doctor won't let Jack shoot things, but he can vaporize entire civilizations? Quite the double-standard.

[The Lizard]

I wouldn't mind the Doctor having a companion that could fight.

We need another Leela on the show.

[TheCorpulent1]

I'd be down with Mickey at this point. He must've become a decent fighter with the resistance on the alternate Earth.

[04nbod]

Marthas' med experience got use in Torchwood....

where it was completely unnecessary because owen was there. Actually notice that martha's medical knowledge is only used when owen is there, when he is dead she isn't needed. Begs the big question- what was the point?!

[Captain_BluTac]

Jekyll really starts brilliantly. It blows the socks off anything we have done for the first few episodes. Then it gets to the finale and it crashes and it crashes badly!

I liked Jekyll's resolution, there were a few good twists, A few good murders and the death of a main character.:o

[Manic]

Yeah, what's the deal with that? The Doctor won't let Jack shoot things, but he can vaporize entire civilizations? Quite the double-standard.
Just because I'm bored, let's make a long RTD-era list of the Doctor's kills...

-DOCTOR-
Dalek genocide
Time Lord genocide
The Nestene Consciousness of the Autons
Leader of the Sycorax
Alien Werewolf
The Wire
Satan
Cyberman genocide
Another Dalek genocide
Racnoss genocide
Richard Lazarus


Now a list of people (not Jack) associated with the Doctor, that the Doctor has allowed to kill...

-DOCTOR'S FRIENDS-
Gwyneth (the Gelth)
Jackie (a Slitheen)
Mickey (the Slitheen family, and anyone else on Downing Street)
Rose (another Dalek genocide, Satan)
K-9 (the Krillitane)
Ricky's Resistence on Pete's Earth (Cybermen)
Martha (Pig Slaves)


Now a list of kills the Doctor has allowed Jack to make while in his company...

-JACK w/DOCTOR-
Daleks

[TheCorpulent1]

The Doctor's a peculiar sort of mass-murderer.

[BlackLantern]

He adds a bit of cheer to genocide....

[TheCorpulent1]

I love how everyone who knows him is all, "He's the Doctor! He's a hero!" It could just as easily and just as truthfully be, "He's the Doctor! He's responsible for the extinction of several entire races!"

[BlackLantern]

You'd think word would get around the cosmos...if you see a guy in a suit or big blue box...RUN

[TheCorpulent1]

I'd love to see an alien who admires the Doctor but is evil meet up with him and be all starry-eyed... until the Doctor brutally murders him in cold blood. :)

[Gold Samurai]

The doctor is actually "Dexter" in disguise

I'd love to see an alien who admires the Doctor but is evil meet up with him and be all starry-eyed... until the Doctor brutally murders him in cold blood. :)

[the_ultimate_evil]

the latest rumours are that the whole bees thing is linked einstein saying that if the bee disappear then mankind would die out in 4 years

interesting idea

[DoctorJones]

The Doctor's a peculiar sort of mass-murderer.

He doesn't do it out of malice though.

Anyway, Christmas special, ooh, I look forward to seeing how they come back. They terrify the living daylights out of me.

[04nbod]

the latest rumours are that the whole bees thing is linked einstein saying that if the bee disappear then mankind would die out in 4 years

interesting idea

it was a throwaway remark about donna researching consipracy theories , don't expect it to be followed up unless you think every one of donna's comments in that speech will also be explored

[SpideyLad]

He doesn't do it out of malice though.

Anyway, Christmas special, ooh, I look forward to seeing how they come back. They terrify the living daylights out of me.

Use spoiler tags....It's so much easier.

it was a throwaway remark about donna researching consipracy theories , don't expect it to be followed up unless you think every one of donna's comments in that speech will also be explored

It could be fleshed out. After all, we are gonna get some giant wasps/bees later on...

[chamber-music]

You'd think word would get around the cosmos...if you see a guy in a suit or big blue box...RUN

Exactly. People are gonna notice the Blue Police box alone as they haven't been around in most of Britain since the 60s. I've never seen one in real life, only on doctor who.

He would draw more attention than a DeLorean.

[SpideyLad]

Exactly. People are gonna notice the Blue Police box alone as they haven't been around in most of Britain since the 60s. I've never seen one in real life, only on doctor who.

He would draw more attention than a DeLorean.

The TARDIS has a natural perception filter. Basically, people see it, but don't really care about it.

[Manic]

The perception filter is one of RTD's better retcons. It's the only way to explain why the Doctor can leave that thing anywhere, and nobody seems to notice it.

The stealth keychains and invisible lift take things a bit too far, though.

[wobbly]

Well, this weeks episode was better than the last, (though the water pistol thing was just a little too cute) and another little hint was made to Rose.

Donna still annoys the hell out of me.

[SpideyLad]

The perception filter is one of RTD's better retcons. It's the only way to explain why the Doctor can leave that thing anywhere, and nobody seems to notice it.

The stealth keychains and invisible lift take things a bit too far, though.

I like the idea of the Perception Filter. It does make sense...:up:

Well, this weeks episode was better than the last, (though the water pistol thing was just a little too cute) and another little hint was made to Rose.

Donna still annoys the hell out of me.

I preferred last weeks episode. And I liked the Water Pistol!:cmad:

[TheCorpulent1]

I'm a little disappointed that this season is focusing so much on Rose. Who really gives a **** about Rose? I never liked her much anyway.

[BlackLantern]

I'm a little disappointed that this season is focusing so much on Rose. Who really gives a **** about Rose? I never liked her much anyway.

I want to mount her...thats the extent of my interest

[TheCorpulent1]

Horseface Rose? Ick.

[BlackLantern]

Horseface Rose? Ick.

That's why I said "mount"....so I don't have to look at her....the rest of her is just fine

[Manic]

Horseface Rose? Ick.
Rose does not look like a horse!! :cmad: :cmad:


I prefer to think that she looks like a toad. :oldrazz:

[DoctorJones]

Loved this week's episode, I loved how the Doctor is equated as a sci-fi god.

[the_ultimate_evil]

it was a throwaway remark about donna researching consipracy theories , don't expect it to be followed up unless you think every one of donna's comments in that speech will also be explored

the fact that the doctor actually stopped to acknowledge it does give it a bit more weight and remember saxxon was just a poster and bad wolf was simply nothing either at the start

[DoctorJones]

Just because I'm bored, let's make a long RTD-era list of the Doctor's kills...

-DOCTOR-
Dalek genocide
Time Lord genocide
The Nestene Consciousness of the Autons
Leader of the Sycorax
Alien Werewolf
The Wire
Satan
Cyberman genocide
Another Dalek genocide
Racnoss genocide
Richard Lazarus


Now a list of people (not Jack) associated with the Doctor, that the Doctor has allowed to kill...

-DOCTOR'S FRIENDS-
Gwyneth (the Gelth)
Jackie (a Slitheen)
Mickey (the Slitheen family, and anyone else on Downing Street)
Rose (another Dalek genocide, Satan)
K-9 (the Krillitane)
Ricky's Resistence on Pete's Earth (Cybermen)
Martha (Pig Slaves)


Now a list of kills the Doctor has allowed Jack to make while in his company...

-JACK w/DOCTOR-
Daleks

You can add 20,000 Pompeiians today, although the Doctor did that to stop magma and rock infesting humanity.

[wobbly]

the fact that the doctor actually stopped to acknowledge it does give it a bit more weight and remember saxxon was just a poster and bad wolf was simply nothing either at the start

Agreed: I also think that Bees line stood out a wee bit too much, especially as we know giant wasps/bees will be in the show later on. Will have to wait and see if they do come back to it directly though.

Another thought on regarding 'bees going missing' : This story is/was actually true, as a disturbing shortage of bees being reported across the world was making the news for a little while last year. I think it was isolated to some parasite and might well be done with already?
Whatever the case, I do remember reading something about it so that wasn't something entirely made up for the episode.

[Lord Valumart]

fires of pompeii is what dr who should be...right up until the end...

i loved the historical setting, i loved the aliens, i loved the fact that it was pompeii of the world, i loathed the ending. it was just off...didn't feel right...

apart from that i can say i want more dr who to be like this, it reminded me of good times...like 9ths speach about how he can feel the world moving in rose when the dr told donna what he sees. personally i've always liked the historical adventures and the new series always kinda let that side of things down by traveling to the 80's, but this gave me hope:up:

[BlackLantern]

i recently saw "The Girl in the Fireplace" I thought it was a pretty decent historical episode...

[Lord Valumart]

i recently saw "The Girl in the Fireplace" I thought it was a pretty decent historical episode...

i hated that. as with a lot of dr who, both classic and new, it had a good idea but it was put from paper to screen really badly and the whole dr in love thing was pish. it's basicly an episode about the drs whore...

[BlackLantern]

i hated that. as with a lot of dr who, both classic and new, it had a good idea but it was put from paper to screen really badly and the whole dr in love thing was pish. it's basicly an episode about the drs whore...

I don't think he was "in love" with her....he was fond of her, I think thats' about it. I find it funny how a lot of the hardcore fans want the Doctor to be this hard emotionless character, or seem like he is above something like love. he is the last of his kind, he would get lonely....wouldn't he want someone to be with? Bear in mind I never saw much of the original series, so I don't know how that aspect of things was portrayed then....

[the_ultimate_evil]

i didn't mind the girl in the fireplace, actully quite like it.


anyway the ood are back next week, and in all honestly how matt groening isn't suing someone i still don't know

[TheCorpulent1]

I liked "The Girl in the Fireplace" a lot. My favorite episodes seem to run the exact opposite from LV's. I also loved Sally Sparrow and "Blink," but LV hates them with a fiery passion I haven't seen in many people over anything.

[Lord Valumart]

I don't think he was "in love" with her....he was fond of her, I think thats' about it. I find it funny how a lot of the hardcore fans want the Doctor to be this hard emotionless character, or seem like he is above something like love. he is the last of his kind, he would get lonely....wouldn't he want someone to be with? Bear in mind I never saw much of the original series, so I don't know how that aspect of things was portrayed then....

in classic who he was fond of companions like you would be fond of your best mate. like he said to donna, all he wants is a mate. he's not above love and emotion, he just doesn;t want it to get in the way, and hasn't. personally i disliked when he was clearly going to tell rose he loved her cause that took away the mystery of him so much more. i know it's hard for a show thats been around for 40 odd years to still have mystery behind its main character but we really do barely know anything about him...

and rtd did say he gave the writer of TGITF the plot of "the dr falls in love" and told them to go and write so we got "dr who and the whore of france"

[Lord Valumart]

I liked "The Girl in the Fireplace" a lot. My favorite episodes seem to run the exact opposite from LV's. I also loved Sally Sparrow and "Blink," but LV hates them with a fiery passion I haven't seen in many people over anything.

you hush you:cmad::cmad:

*shakes fists in anger*

[BlackLantern]

in classic who he was fond of companions like you would be fond of your best mate. like he said to donna, all he wants is a mate. he's not above love and emotion, he just doesn;t want it to get in the way, and hasn't. personally i disliked when he was clearly going to tell rose he loved her cause that took away the mystery of him so much more. i know it's hard for a show thats been around for 40 odd years to still have mystery behind its main character but we really do barely know anything about him...

and rtd did say he gave the writer of TGITF the plot of "the dr falls in love" and told them to go and write so we got "dr who and the whore of france"

you like throwing around the term "whore of France" don't you?

[Lord Valumart]

you like throwing around the term "whore of France" don't you?

well...yeh...cause she basicly was. it's nothing about the actress or anything...just the character of madame depofomdomfordor was that of a woman there who had the job of shagging the king every so often:huh:

[BlackLantern]

well...yeh...cause she basicly was. it's nothing about the actress or anything...just the character of madame depofomdomfordor was that of a woman there who had the job of shagging the king every so often:huh:

Madame De Pompadour you mean? but I get your point...maybe there will be an episode in which the Doctor must choose to save either Sally Sparrow or Madame De Pompadour.....

[Lord Valumart]

Madame De Pompadour you mean? but I get your point...maybe there will be an episode in which the Doctor must choose to save either Sally Sparrow or Madame De Pompadour.....

if was the dr i'd buggar off for a quick holiday, hang out with jack, visit holland, ride a t-rex, save a few planets and alien races...then go back and sonic the cages(i assume they're in cages above lava for some reason) and let them both drop since de pompadour will die anyhow and sparrow has already done everything she needs to since i know her...and she has a poor dvd collection...

[SpideyLad]

You can add 20,000 Pompeiians today, although the Doctor did that to stop magma and rock infesting humanity.

The Volcano was a pre-determined event in time. The Doctor had to let them die, he had no choice.

[wobbly]

well...yeh...cause she basicly was. it's nothing about the actress or anything...just the character of madame depofomdomfordor was that of a woman there who had the job of shagging the king every so often:huh:


It's good to be the King...:cwink:

[BlackLantern]

if was the dr i'd buggar off for a quick holiday, hang out with jack, visit holland, ride a t-rex, save a few planets and alien races...then go back and sonic the cages(i assume they're in cages above lava for some reason) and let them both drop since de pompadour will die anyhow and sparrow has already done everything she needs to since i know her...and she has a poor dvd collection...

If there ever was a good reason for being put to death....

[Lord Valumart]

The Volcano was a pre-determined event in time. The Doctor had to let them die, he had no choice.
it was also the lesser of two evils...so even if it hadn't been pompeii and some far off alien planet it would still have been the best thing to do...
If there ever was a good reason for being put to death....

well...no...but the point stands, i found her annoying...

[livrule]

fires of pompeii is what dr who should be...right up until the end...

i loved the historical setting, i loved the aliens, i loved the fact that it was pompeii of the world, i loathed the ending. it was just off...didn't feel right...

apart from that i can say i want more dr who to be like this, it reminded me of good times...like 9ths speach about how he can feel the world moving in rose when the dr told donna what he sees. personally i've always liked the historical adventures and the new series always kinda let that side of things down by traveling to the 80's, but this gave me hope:up:

Agree with 95% of that.

[Lord Valumart]

Agree with 95% of that.

what was the 5% you don;t agree with?

[livrule]

what was the 5% you don;t agree with?

I didn't loath the ending.

It wasn't perfect but the rest of the episode was so good it made it easier to swallow.

[Lord Valumart]

I didn't loath the ending.

It wasn't perfect but the rest of the episode was so good it made it easier to swallow.

ah...very well...

[Gold Samurai]

You can add 20,000 Pompeiians today, although the Doctor did that to stop magma and rock infesting humanity.

that almost sounds like battlestar galactica lol

[BlackLantern]

I'll say this "Utopia" "The Sound of Drums" and "Last of the Time Lords" are scored brilliantly, the music is fantastic...Im guessing the BBC got the London Philharmonic to score the episodes..

[kez1984]

fires of pompeii is what dr who should be...right up until the end...

i loved the historical setting, i loved the aliens, i loved the fact that it was pompeii of the world, i loathed the ending. it was just off...didn't feel right...

apart from that i can say i want more dr who to be like this, it reminded me of good times...like 9ths speach about how he can feel the world moving in rose when the dr told donna what he sees. personally i've always liked the historical adventures and the new series always kinda let that side of things down by traveling to the 80's, but this gave me hope:up:

I tend to agree, alot better than the season opener I thought, also, while she seems pretty anoying in the christmas episode, Donna seems to have more chemistry than Martha who seemed to be abit of a wet sponge in comparison to Rose.