The "New" Doctor Who

[Magneto29]

Blue Peter Now Doc Who Shizzle!

edit... urmm Spoilers? i can't work spoiler tags though.
It mentioned prisoners Jackie, Sarah Jane and Mickey.. and loads of randomers. Sarah Jane says something about being one step closer to the Doctor. That's from the last episode apparently and they are kidnapped by Daleks. Oh and they showed a clip :D

I'm not following any of what you said there ??

[SpideyLad]

I'm not following any of what you said there ??

Blue Peter is a kids show in the UK. It's really ****...

[The Lizard]

On a side note, I just recently found out that Lalla Ward (2nd Romana) is married to Richard Dawkins (evolutionary biologist and anti-religious gadfly).

I really felt out of the Doctor Who nerd loop for not knowing that. :csad:

[SpideyLad]

On a side note, I just recently found out that Lalla Ward (2nd Romana) is married to Richard Dawkins (evolutionary biologist and anti-religious gadfly).

I really felt out of the Doctor Who nerd loop for not knowing that. :csad:

And, Richard Dawkin's is gonna be in next week's episode, playing himself...

[TheCorpulent1]

Whoa, Dawkins is gonna be on Doctor Who? I always meant to read one of his books but I never got around to it.

[SpideyLad]

Whoa, Dawkins is gonna be on Doctor Who? I always meant to read one of his books but I never got around to it.

Yep, it's been confirmed on the offical BBC cast list for The Stolen Earth. :up:

[TheCorpulent1]

Nice.

[SpideyLad]

Nice.

Paul O'Grady is also gonna be playing himself, but I doubt he's very well known in the US.

[TheCorpulent1]

Yeah, I don't know who he is. I guess, based on what others have said, that he's some kind of talk show host?

[Magneto29]

Paul O'Grady is also gonna be playing himself, but I doubt he's very well known in the US.

Nope! Never heard of him. I doubt it'll really matter though.

[SpideyLad]

Yeah, I don't know who he is. I guess, based on what others have said, that he's some kind of talk show host?

Nope! Never heard of him. I doubt it'll really matter though.

He's a talk show host, yes. He's also very annoying.

http://www.tvscoop.tv/paulogradyandhisdog.jpg

[TheCorpulent1]

Man, that dog makes me want to punch him.

[SpideyLad]

Man, that dog makes me want to punch him.

The dog is the one watchable thing on his show these days. :csad:

[The Englishman]

Paul O'Grady is also gonna be playing himself, but I doubt he's very well known in the US.
See this is the sort of ******** that pisses me off about Doctor Who!!!! :cmad:

[TheCorpulent1]

Throwaway pop-culture references? :huh:

[Logan's Lady]

Hey fellow Who fans :)

[union_jak]

haha Trinny & Susannah sunk after their robot versions were on Doctor Who. As if they would have been worth remembering for centuries.

[The Englishman]

Throwaway pop-culture references? :huh:
Yes **** pop culture references, such as this or Peggy Mitchell in the Queen Vic shouting at the Ghost of Dirty Den!!!! :cmad:

[SpideyLad]

Hey fellow Who fans :)

Hi LL :yay: . Looking forward to next weeks episode?

[regwec]

Yes **** pop culture references, such as this or Peggy Mitchell in the Queen Vic shouting at the Ghost of Dirty Den!!!! :cmad:
I agree with you, though the upcoming episodes seem to be so deliberately heavy-loaded that I doubt these indulgences will arrest much attention.

[The Lizard]

Throwaway pop-culture references? :huh:

So far we've seen "classic ancient earth music" represented by Britney Spears and Abba. I'm fully expecting to see some other 51st century folks bopping to Madonna and Cher in future eps.

[Manic]

Yes **** pop culture references, such as this or Peggy Mitchell in the Queen Vic shouting at the Ghost of Dirty Den!!!! :cmad:
Was that the TV clip from Army of Ghosts with the lady yelling "Get out! The only spirits I sell are gin and whiskey!" I never felt so out of the loop while watching Doctor Who.

[Captain_BluTac]

Was that the TV clip from Army of Ghosts with the lady yelling "Get out! The only spirits I sell are gin and whiskey!" I never felt so out of the loop while watching Doctor Who.


It was the only spirits I serve.:o

[Manic]

It was the only spirits I serve.:o
Right. Because it was a play on words.

[The Lizard]

Here's one from "Turn Left" - When Donna was sassing back at the lady who was trying to make her feel guilty about moving into the house after the last family got kicked out, she (Donna) called her "Vera Duckworth" and said something about putting clogs on.....wha? :huh:

[Captain_BluTac]

Here's one from "Turn Left" - When Donna was sassing back at the lady who was trying to make her feel guilty about moving into the house after the last family got kicked out, she (Donna) called her "Vera Duckworth" and said something about putting clogs on.....wha? :huh:

Vera Duckworth was a character (for about 30 years) on the longest running British soap (Coronation Street) who was killed off this year (the actor had Emphysema so had to leave the show) and depending on what she said about the clogs she could of been telling the woman to die (pop your clogs) or to leave (my brains to mushy to remeber the expression, but it's basically the southern way of saying Jog On.):o

[Captain_BluTac]

Right. Because it was a play on words.

Exactly.

[psychocheeseman]

On a side note, I just recently found out that Lalla Ward (2nd Romana) is married to Richard Dawkins (evolutionary biologist and anti-religious gadfly).

I really felt out of the Doctor Who nerd loop for not knowing that. :csad:
Lucky old dawkins! She was a bit of all right back in the day. And yes, i too fell like i should have known that..

It's gonna be awesome if he's in an episode!

[Pirateking]

Well LV, tell me when you're going and I might come with you...I feel the need for a drinking session in a Pirate pub after seeing the object of your affections on stage.

[FountainDrink]

Wow, the Daleks are the main villains again.
What a shock. :dry:

For a race that is supposed to wiped out they sure do appear a lot.

[Manic]

And they always appear with increased numbers.

Series 1: The emperor survived, then used human game show contestants to restart the Dalek race. Rose wipes them all out.

Series 2: 4 Daleks who didn't fight in the war appear, and they've brought a prison filled with thousands of Daleks. The Doctor and Rose throw all but the original 4 into the Void.

Series 3: The surviving 4 Daleks create a new race of human/Dalek hybrids, but they're soon killed off because they think for themselves. Only one Dalek remains in the universe.

Series 4: Okay, now it just feels like a joke...

[FountainDrink]

Can't wait for Davros to die and then at the beginning of Series 5 the Tardis lands on Skaro in the middle of a Dalek parade.

[SpideyLad]

Can't wait for Davros to die and then at the beginning of Series 5 the Tardis lands on Skaro in the middle of a Dalek parade.

Davros had better not die....:cmad:

And, Skaro has been destroyed (As far as we know anyway).

[kez1984]

Nice little promo. I wonder if he still shouts

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[SpideyLad]

Exclusive clip from the BBC Website is up:

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[kez1984]

Hope they keep Martha to a minimum.


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[SpideyLad]

Hope they keep Martha to a minimum.


It's probably doubtful...

[Bastila]

I hope they kill her off like last week lol Even though it wasn't real ....still....could be lol


This weeks one looks sick!!!!!!!! I love it we are finally going to see Torchwood in Doctor who, I was like oh my god!
Super awesome.

I did like last weeks episode, even though the Doctor wasn't in it much was good.
Rose was different, she seemed grown up but I did like seeing her again.

But this final looks great I can't wait! Even though Rose will have to leave again.....


Who's in the christmas special with the Doctor Who?


I need a DW avvy for this weeks episode with all of them in :p

[SpideyLad]

I hope they kill her off like last week lol Even though it wasn't real ....still....could be lol


This weeks one looks sick!!!!!!!! I love it we are finally going to see Torchwood in Doctor who, I was like oh my god!
Super awesome.

I did like last weeks episode, even though the Doctor wasn't in it much was good.
Rose was different, she seemed grown up but I did like seeing her again.

But this final looks great I can't wait! Even though Rose will have to leave again.....


Who's in the christmas special with the Doctor Who?


I need a DW avvy for this weeks episode with all of them in :p

BASTILA! *Hugs*

We don't know who is gonna be in Christmas Special yet. :csad:

[Bastila]

Hey Spidey!!!!!!!! *hugs back*

Really they are hiding things from us!


Still this weeks looks great :D

[SpideyLad]

Hey Spidey!!!!!!!! *hugs back*

Really they are hiding things from us!


Still this weeks looks great :D

It really does. :woot:

[Savage]

Vera Duckworth was a character (for about 30 years) on the longest running British soap (Coronation Street) who was killed off this year (the actor had Emphysema so had to leave the show) and depending on what she said about the clogs she could of been telling the woman to die (pop your clogs) or to leave (my brains to mushy to remeber the expression, but it's basically the southern way of saying Jog On.):o
I was wondering what she was going on about. I know it's a stereotype that some British people talk gibberish but this one actually left me saying "...I understood none of that."

[The Lizard]

Vera Duckworth was a character (for about 30 years) on the longest running British soap (Coronation Street) who was killed off this year (the actor had Emphysema so had to leave the show) and depending on what she said about the clogs she could of been telling the woman to die (pop your clogs) or to leave (my brains to mushy to remeber the expression, but it's basically the southern way of saying Jog On.):o

Ah, that explains it. Much obliged.

I've heard of Coronation Street of course, but I'm not familiar with any of its characters.

[The Lizard]

I love it we are finally going to see Torchwood in Doctor who, I was like oh my god!
Super awesome.

I must respectfully disagree. :oldrazz:


Although, since obnoxious Owen and whiny Toshiko are dead, and Gwen and Ianto weren't quite as annoying this past season, maybe it won't be so bad.

[Bastila]

I liked Tosh, for me I find Gwen annoying and want her to be killed off lol

But I am just glad they are finally linking it into Doctor Who.

[The Lizard]

I'm assuming that since Doctor Who isn't post-watershed, we won't get the sexual banter between Ianto and Jack this time around. Hopefully no ridiculous Jack/Gwen flirtation either.

[union_jak]

Here's one from "Turn Left" - When Donna was sassing back at the lady who was trying to make her feel guilty about moving into the house after the last family got kicked out, she (Donna) called her "Vera Duckworth" and said something about putting clogs on.....wha? :huh:
"Oi!! Vera Duckworth, put your clogs on and go and feed 't'Whippets!"

translated means

"Hey! Annoying old working class lady (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Vera_Duckworth), go and put your simple shoes (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Clogs) and and feed the clichéd Northern English greyhound (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Whippet)!"

Pop your clogs mean to die, but I think she did say "put your clogs on". because it's generalised that working class housewives from up North run around the streets in their dressing gowns and slippers.

Donna spoke to her in a mock-Yorkshire accent, which explains the 't' before the Whippets.

[IronLion]

do you think that after the finale, the parralell universes/timeline is going to fuse/intermingle, and a giant retconn type situation happens where the time war never happened, we get an official, this is canon and this isnt, and we see galifrey....

[the_ultimate_evil]

Exclusive clip from the BBC Website is up:

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pretty cool clip, the reaction of jack and sarah jane actually give the daleks some weight as a threat

and what happened to patrick stweart i thought he had a part in the series

[The Squirrel]

Picard?

Where did you hear that?

[union_jak]

The Daleks should fear Rose and Jack, not the other way around, but I did like that preview!

[the_ultimate_evil]

The Daleks should fear Rose and Jack, not the other way around, but I did like that preview!

rose i can understand, though i'm sure they know she isn't as powerfull now, but why jack they are the only think to actually kill him

[Manic]

"Oi!! Vera Duckworth, put your clogs on and go and feed 't'Whippets!"

translated means

"Hey! Annoying old working class lady (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Vera_Duckworth), go and put your simple shoes (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Clogs) and and feed the clichéd Northern English greyhound (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Whippet)!"

Pop your clogs mean to die, but I think she did say "put your clogs on". because it's generalised that working class housewives from up North run around the streets in their dressing gowns and slippers.

Donna spoke to her in a mock-Yorkshire accent, which explains the 't' before the Whippets.
I checked my vid, and she says "Don't get all chippy with me, Vera Duckworth. Pop your clogs on and go feed Whippet." More or less, depending on how stuff is spelled.

You translated just about everything else, but... "chippy"?

[SpideyLad]

I checked my vid, and she says "Don't get all chippy with me, Vera Duckworth. Pop your clogs on and go feed Whippet." More or less, depending on how stuff is spelled.

You translated just about everything else, but... "chippy"?

Chippy = Fish and Chip shop.

[Lord Valumart]

Chippy = Fish and Chip shop.

not in this context...it would mean lippy or mouthy or something like that...

[Manic]

Now it makes even less sense.


Oh. Lippy and mouthy make sense.

[SpideyLad]

not in this context...it would mean lippy or mouthy or something like that...

.....Shut up.....:cmad:

[SpideyLad]

not in this context...it would mean lippy or mouthy or something like that...

.....Shut up.....:cmad:

[The Englishman]

Yes thanks for making Leeds look like a ****hole and us all flatcap wearing whippet feeding typical Northeners RTD.

[Pirateking]

I was half expecting Andy Cap to walk down the street!

[IronLion]

to be fair though, there are some places like that in leeds like headingley, but that street is not from leeds....or i would be suprised if it is.

[IronLion]

I was half expecting Andy Cap to walk down the street!


lol

[Manic]

In all fairness, I think RTD was saying that in a world where a nuclear space ship falls on the country and renders the entire southern part of England unlivable, the surge of refugees moving to the North and lack of foreign aid would cause Leeds to turn into a ghetto. A ghetto less desirable than Glasgow's inevitable ghettos, clearly.

[IronLion]

In all fairness, I think RTD was saying that in a world where a nuclear space ship falls on the country and renders the entire southern part of England unlivable, the surge of refugees moving to the North and lack of foreign aid would cause Leeds to turn into a ghetto. A ghetto less desirable than Glasgow, though.


possibly because further north you go the better it is, but why leeds, newcastle i can understand:cwink:, but leeds????

[IronLion]

so far rtd has shown leeds to be a **** hole, and he has killed evry asian character. this leads me to believe rtd hates yorkshire asians, which means he hates me! :cmad: b@$7@rd!!!

[union_jak]

rose i can understand, though i'm sure they know she isn't as powerfull now, but why jack they are the only think to actually kill him
They did kill him.

But.

He came back to life again.

The Doctor regenerates, and they can't stand that, and now Jack is practically immortal.

[JustABill]

Dear god....Sarah Jane's reaction. It almost broke my heart. Elizabeth Sladen is a goddess.

[The Lizard]

and now Jack is practically immortal.

Which makes me wonder why Jack is freaking out and being so quick to pronounce everyone dead. I guess he figures that the Daleks will just torture him forever if they can't kill him. Although I'd like to see Jack come back to life after getting launched into the sun. I think your average Dalek could come up with a way to destroy him once and for all.

[union_jak]

Which makes me wonder why Jack is freaking out and being so quick to pronounce everyone dead. I guess he figures that the Daleks will just torture him forever if they can't kill him. Although I'd like to see Jack come back to life after getting launched into the sun. I think your average Dalek could come up with a way to destroy him once and for all.
I thought it was more of guilt that worry- he might survive being exterminated again, but he knows he can't save Ianto and Gwen.

[Bastila]

The Daleks should fear Rose and Jack, not the other way around, but I did like that preview!

I wonder if Jack can live though a Dalek shoting him....But Rose true would they be scared of her.....or will she go all heart of the tardis on them again???


I can't wait looking forward to it loads!

[regwec]

Davros would probably find some interesting and unpleasant experiments to perform on Jack's flesh.

[Captain_BluTac]

"Oi!! Vera Duckworth, put your clogs on and go and feed 't'Whippets!"

translated means

"Hey! Annoying old working class lady (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Vera_Duckworth), go and put your simple shoes (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Clogs) and and feed the clichéd Northern English greyhound (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Whippet)!"

Pop your clogs mean to die, but I think she did say "put your clogs on". because it's generalised that working class housewives from up North run around the streets in their dressing gowns and slippers.

Donna spoke to her in a mock-Yorkshire accent, which explains the 't' before the Whippets.

That was it, "put your clogs on" for the life of me I could not remember that, but it's not as complicated as the slippers thing, as I already said, it's basically just another way of saying "Jog On".:woot::o

[Captain_BluTac]

Now it makes even less sense.


Oh. Lippy and mouthy make sense.

It's like saying don't be Snippy or rude.

[Captain_BluTac]

I was half expecting Andy Cap to walk down the street!

That would of been IMMENSE!

[Manic]

I wonder if Jack can live though a Dalek shoting him....But Rose true would they be scared of her.....or will she go all heart of the tardis on them again???


I can't wait looking forward to it loads!
But they wouldn't know that Rose killed nearly their entire race once before. When Rose annihilated the Daleks, she got rid of all Daleks in her universe. There were no survivors, and no one to tell the tale of the scary blonde girl in the hoodie.

[Pirateking]

I'm working Saturday from 2pm until 1am. I reckon I'm gonna be a right pain in the arse..."C'mon, let's get finished. I want to go home. TATE AWAITS! And so does the Kitchen sink!"

[ttotheusher]

Yea, I'm also working during Doctor Who time. Goddamn those bills of mine.

[The Lizard]

But they wouldn't know that Rose killed nearly their entire race once before. When Rose annihilated the Daleks, she got rid of all Daleks in her universe. There were no survivors, and no one to tell the tale of the scary blonde girl in the hoodie.

...with the tremendous overbite. :woot:

Rose did make a point later of telling Dalek Sec that she was responsible for destroying the "Em'pra" and the other Daleks, but Sec is now dead. There's really no reason for Davros and these new Daleks to remember or fear Rose, but who knows what RTD will put in the script as a shout-out to the Rose-worshippers.

[The Englishman]

Which makes me wonder why Jack is freaking out and being so quick to pronounce everyone dead. I guess he figures that the Daleks will just torture him forever if they can't kill him. Although I'd like to see Jack come back to life after getting launched into the sun. I think your average Dalek could come up with a way to destroy him once and for all.
I dont know why Jack is quick to pronounce everyone dead, i mean he should know The Doctor will save everyone,he always as a plan.......

[Bastila]

There were no survivors, and no one to tell the tale of the scary blonde girl in the hoodie.

Dude I want to get a Rose avvy just to have that wrote about it lol Made me laugh!

[TheCorpulent1]

I dont know why Jack is quick to pronounce everyone dead, i mean he should know The Doctor will save everyone,he always as a plan.......
Aw, I thought you were gonna say "he's very, very clever." :D

I'm sure Jack was more scared for Ianto and Gwen, though. The Doctor may always win, but he doesn't always get his sidekicks out alive. Jack knows that firsthand.

[Bastila]

The sidekicks die or get left behind lol


But I think Jack is scared for Gwen and Ianto as they've never gone up agaist something like this before.

[ttotheusher]

But I think Jack is scared for Gwen and Ianto as they've never gone up agaist something like this before.

Yea, the pre-watershed broadcast. They cant shag their way out of this one. :whatever:

[Manic]

Right, so...
Now that we're near the finale, it's time to go over the themes that have carried over the episodes throughout this series.


Partners in Crime
Rose appeared
ATMOS stickers on cars (reference to upcoming "Sontaran Stratagem")
Donna mentions the bees disappearing (finale?)
The Adipose lost their old breeding world

The Fires of Pompeii
An oracle tells the Doctor "She is returning." (Rose)
The same oracle tells Donna "There is something on your back." (reference to "Turn Left")
The Pyrovile lost their home world

The Planet of the Ood
An Ood tells the Doctor "I think your song will must soon." (Prof. River Song reference?)

The Sontaran Stratagem/The Poison Sky
Rose briefly appears on the TARDIS monitor shouting "Doctor!" (or "Donna!) without audio.

The Doctor's Daughter
I couldn't find anything here.

The Unicorn and the Wasp
Donna mentions how they're running out of bees in her time, again.

Silence in the Library / Forest of the Dead
Cal has 2 drawings on the wall of her living room: a blonde girl, and a wolf. (Rose)

Midnight
Rose appears on a monitor behind the Doctor and shouts "Doctor!" twice without audio.

Turn Left
Rose appears. Like, for real this time.
Rose basically sets up the finale by saying the darkness is coming and they need the Doctor to stop it. She also mentions the Bad Wolf.
Donna's mother mentions the bees disappearing.
Rose tells Donna that something about her is giving them strange readings, and they've been there since she was born.

[the_ultimate_evil]

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[TheCorpulent1]

Didn't either the humans or the Hath lose their world in "The Doctor's Daughter," which is why they were terraforming that planet in the first place?

[JustABill]

Yeah, I think something like that was mentioned.

But I don't really care, I just wanna see Kitchen Sink kick some Davros ass. Screw Rose and her BMFG, Kitchen Sink is where it's at. :D

[TheCorpulent1]

I wish the Master were still around. How awesome would it be for the Doctor and the Master to join forces against Davros for revenge on behalf of their Time Lord brethren?

[Pirateking]

If this question has been asked before I apologise...but do you reckon Moffatt will keep the team of Tennant and Tate considering they've had damn good viewing figures this series?

[JustABill]

Tate has said she's only doing one series...unfortunately. I'm tired of getting use to a companion, then they disappear after only 1 series. Rose was okay, because we had two series of her, but we only got one of Martha, and now one of Donna. :(

[Pirateking]

Well, truth be told I love anything that Catherine is in, but I feel that she has been vindicated as an actress now. It is a pity if she really only does one series...they both bounce off each other perfectly. It's been a nice change for an assistant not to be fawning after the Doctor.

[TheCorpulent1]

I liked the chemistry between Donna and the Doctor a lot. The Doctor needs someone who's not afraid to call him on his bulls***.

[Pirateking]

Let's hope our Catherine changes her mind...

[TheCorpulent1]

It'd be nice if she stuck around. She, the Doctor, and Jenny would make a good combination. Jenny's got the wide-eyed adventurousness, Donna's got the cynical practicality, and the Doctor's... well, the Doctor.

[The Lizard]

The same oracle tells Donna "There is something on your back." (reference to "Turn Left")


I forgot about that.

I'm assuming that the oracle was telling the future and meant "there will be something on your back", since only the alternate-timeline Donna was walking around with the alien beetle on her back.

[TheCorpulent1]

... or was she? ;)

[Obsidian]

Apparently the finale, "Journey's End" is 65 minutes instead of the usual 45-50 for those that don't know.

http://www.tvsquad.com/2008/06/26/news-regarding-this-seasons-doctor-who-finale/

[TheCorpulent1]

Whoa, so it's a three-parter with the final part being 20 minutes longer? Geez.

[Manic]

I liked the chemistry between Donna and the Doctor a lot. The Doctor needs someone who's not afraid to call him on his bulls***.
Doctor: "Oh, smell that air. Grass and lemonade. And a little bit of mint. With a hint of mint, must be the 1920s."
Donna: "You can tell what year it is just by smelling?"
Doctor: "Oh yeah."
Donna: "Or maybe that big vintage car coming up the drive gave it away."

[Lord Valumart]

i just got the 8th dr graphic novel Oblivion...i gotta say colour strips lack the feeling b&w strips do...they feel less real:huh:

[TheCorpulent1]

Doctor: "Oh, smell that air. Grass and lemonade. And a little bit of mint. With a hint of mint, must be the 1920s."
Donna: "You can tell what year it is just by smelling?"
Doctor: "Oh yeah."
Donna: "Or maybe that big vintage car coming up the drive gave it away."
Heh, yeah. Good times.

[Manic]

It's just great that Donna is impressed by the truly remarkable stuff, but sorta shrugs the Doctor off whenever he goes out of his way to try to impress her.

[TheCorpulent1]

Yeah, much better than Martha "everything the Doctor does is amazing!" Jones. I swear, Martha'd be impressed if the Doctor told her he breathes through his mouth when the mood strikes him.

[Manic]

"All this time, and you're still full of surprises."
"Martha, I... I had a stuffy nose."
"OH MY GOD! I didn't know you could have that!"

[Lord Valumart]

Yeah, much better than Martha "everything the Doctor does is amazing!" Jones. I swear, Martha'd be impressed if the Doctor told her he breathes through his mouth when the mood strikes him.

personaly i'd have loved it if at some point he needed mouth to mouth and martha started giving it to him and then he got up and it went

doctor: what are you doing?
martha: you were dying...i was saving your life...
doctor: no...the ears...time lords use the ears to breath now come on...

or something:huh:

[Bastila]

Apparently the finale, "Journey's End" is 65 minutes instead of the usual 45-50 for those that don't know.

http://www.tvsquad.com/2008/06/26/news-regarding-this-seasons-doctor-who-finale/

I sooooo hope so yeah a long final!!

[Manic]

personaly i'd have loved it if at some point he needed mouth to mouth and martha started giving it to him and then he got up and it went

doctor: what are you doing?
martha: you were dying...i was saving your life...
doctor: no...the ears...time lords use the ears to breath now come on...

or something:huh:
An opportunity wasted in Martha's first episode, where she does give him mouth to mouth.

[The Lizard]

So when is the new red Dalek toy hitting the toy shops?

[Pirateking]

I will be buying the red Dalek. And the new Doctor and Donna figures. Still need to get an Astrid. Which reminds me that it's less that two weeks until I see Kylie live!

[Manic]

Speaking of Astrid, I wouldn't be surprised if her sparkly atoms appeared briefly in the next two episodes. The only New Who companions missing in the previews are Astrid and Adam.

[Pirateking]

Oh now that would be a surprise...somewhere along the lines of Rose appearing in Partners In Crime. Or at least Kylie appearing in some way, shape or form. Like her music being heard or her on a telly somewhere, just as a nod to Voyage Of The Damned. We all know that Kylie is a busy woman. Roll on two weeks time...she really is brilliant live. This'll be the second time I've seen her. Although this time there won't be a segment called Dance Of The Cybermen, complete with quotes from Who and the noise that the TARDIS makes flying around the arena.

[SpideyLad]

So when is the new red Dalek toy hitting the toy shops?

It's not even been announced yet. The first wave is due out at the end of July. Rather late this year...

[Pirateking]

I'm just thinking how good these things would look stood somewhere in my room. I looked on Amazon for the books and the first wave of Donna books are due on August 4th.

[SpideyLad]

I'm just thinking how good these things would look stood somewhere in my room. I looked on Amazon for the books and the first wave of Donna books are due on August 4th.

I have very little space left for figures now. :csad:

[Pirateking]

Ah well, I have no figures in my room whatsoever. Although I still live at home, I got rid of the few ages ago but I still have my Mulder and Scully ones. Being as I'm gonna be getting the Kylie and Catherine figures I could make an exception. Although I'll get them under the cover of darkness cos, shush I'm 30 and would never hear the end of it at work!

I have to get ready for work now. Hence I'll be watching Doctor Who on BBC iPlayer AS SOON as I get home at 1.30am or even 2am. At least at that time I'll have no interruptions.

[ihateusernames]

An empty house.
Food in the fridge.
tea bags
Dr Who at 7ish

Yep, gonna be a good night :)

[regwec]

Action figures rule. Only with their aid is it possible to demonstrate Doctor Who vanquishing a T-101 endoskeleton with the sonic screwdriver.

[union_jak]

Five minutes to go. When I saw tennis was still on BBC One I panicked and thought "They wouldn't dare mess with the scheduling for Doctor Who at this vital stage in the series?"

They've shoved on that awful sitcom with Nicholas Lyndhurst and that faux American kid from the Sontaron episodes is in it. My God, he's a bad actor, always talking away and looking at no one. He got the Doctor Who job based on this!?

[The Lizard]

*impatiently starts waiting for torrent*

[black_dust]

WOAH! pretty gripping ending!

Ummmm how the hell do phones work when they have moved away from all the satilites in space?? lol

[black_dust]

P.s the abomination is a raving loony and funny as hell

[ihateusernames]

NOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOO!

I just need to keep repeating what I know and have read in my mind.

If it was wrong or a hoax, then... ahem...


NOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOO OOOO!!! :(

[Dark Spidey]

Nooooo!!!

I can't believe they did that! :wow: :wow:

It's got to be a fake-out surely?

[kez1984]

Half-decent episode, could have been alot better.

If it's not a hoax, I hope tennant get's a better send off than this, seriously.

[ihateusernames]

Please Let It Be A Fake Out!

Nooooooooooooooooooooooooooooo!!!

[ihateusernames]

Half-decent episode, could have been alot better.

Dude, a lot of people reading this havn't seen the episode yet, I know it was unitentional, but that was a harsh way to spoil it for them.

[SpideyLad]

How do they expect us to wait until next week!? :csad:

[Dr Lee]

NO ****ing WAY
NO ****ing WAY
NO ****ing WAY
NO ****ing WAY
NO ****ing WAY

Oh my god...... WHY???? WHY!!!!!!

[Dark Spidey]

Is Davros the greatest Who villain of all time?

I always prefered The Master myself. The Doctor's mirror image.

[livrule]

Epic, brilliant stuff.

Managed to avoid all the mistakes 'The Sound Of Drums' made.

[Lord Valumart]

all i get is a constant bad feeling that since this one was totally freaking awesome then the next one will grind it's way into the ground faster than a grinding thing...

[ihateusernames]

Oh yeah, when donna was sitting on the staires... was she hearing what I thought she was hearing? or just a heartbeat.

[Lord Valumart]

Oh yeah, when donna was sitting on the staires... was she hearing what I thought she was hearing? or just a heartbeat.

depends what you thought you were hearing...

[Dark Spidey]

Epic, brilliant stuff.

Managed to avoid all the mistakes 'The Sound Of Drums' made.

What didn't you like about 'The Sound Of Drums'?

[Dark Spidey]

The drums...

[ihateusernames]

I thought I was hearing something someone else was hearing in another series finale

[black_dust]

I thought I was hearing something someone else was hearing in another series finale

Riddle me this riddle me that.

Spit it out :(

[Lord Valumart]

I thought I was hearing something someone else was hearing in another series finale

sound like a normal heart beat to me...

that thing harriot jones used to contact them all was the sound of drums...first thing i thought was "archangel...?"

[ihateusernames]

Riddle me this riddle me that.

Spit it out :(
haha.
The Drums that guy heard before he became the Master

[Dr Lee]

It sounded more like a heart beat than drums to me...

Now that most of the shock has gone....

How the **** have they kept the last few minutes secret?????

How the ****?:wow:

Loved the colletive looks of absolute horror on Jack, Sarah Jane and Martha as the Darleks were heard.

And did anyone else get a vibe form the Infinate Crisis scene with the multiple Earths when we first saw earth after the 'jump'?

I'm so confused about a specific point... It was said on here that..

Harriet Jones was the red Dalek, yet we saw the red dalek before we saw her and she was supposedly kiled

AND I CAN'T TELL YOU HOW MUCH I ****ING HATE THE WORDS 'to be continued' :cmad::cmad::cmad::cmad:

[black_dust]

haha.
The Drums that guy heard before he became the Master

Whats the master?

Lol

Just kidding, nar the beat was WAY out. was just a normal heart beat rhythm

[Lord Valumart]

AND I CAN'T TELL YOU HOW MUCH I ****ING HATE THE WORDS 'to be continued' :cmad::cmad::cmad::cmad:

but they came up in a cool new way....

alsoworst opening credits ever...:csad:

[Happenstance]

haha.
The Drums that guy heard before he became the Master

Thats what I thought it was aswell. Its also made me wonder, didnt we see a girls hand at the end of the episode where the master died, taking something off his dead body. Im starting to wonder if that was Donna and she'll metaphorically die

[ihateusernames]

Wasn't in confirmed that Tennant had signed on for next years Dr Who, though?
I get the feeling all this stuffs gonna happen, and then we'll all end up going back in time and everything will be the same as it was, minus the Daleks.

[kez1984]

Check your spoiler tags dude.

[Lord Valumart]

Wasn't in confirmed that Tennant had signed on for next years Dr Who, though?
I get the feeling all this stuffs gonna happen, and then we'll all end up going back in time and everything will be the same as it was, minus the Daleks.

he's in the christmas special and also the specials next year...apparently

that being said the dr who team feed us ******** all the time "oh we'll never bring the master back" "davros?! he's way to outdated" "sarah jane who?"....

[ihateusernames]

True, and I read an interview with DT in work where he said he'd rather keep fans out of the loop on what is actually going on.

I mean tennat there.

[union_jak]

And did anyone else get a vibe form the Infinite Crisis scene with the multiple Earths when we first saw earth after the 'jump'?
Definitely.

People worried about the outcomes should remember this-


Sarah Jane has a new series coming out, Torchwood will return for a new series, and David Tennent has filmed the Christmas special, hasn't he!

[Lord Valumart]

thats a thing...i like the fact that they have a massive cross over but isn't a bit annoying that these things have popped up and some people won't have watched torchwood or SJA...i mean who the hell is that kid...

[kez1984]

Sarah Janes computer thing looks like a tv with christmas decorations.

[black_dust]

The most important thing we all have to remember is

At least we know now where all the bees went

[ihateusernames]

yeah, finally.

[BAMFaly]

Holy f****** s*** guys!!!! That was just freaking genius...

I really have no idea how they managed to keep all that secret. But I've got a serious feeling that it's not the end of David Tennant. There's gotta be something, right? Some way that they can reverse it,or still have Tennat.

[black_dust]

Holy f****** s*** guys!!!! That was just freaking genius...

I really have no idea how they managed to keep all that secret. But I've got a serious feeling that it's not the end of David Tennant. There's gotta be something, right? Some way that they can reverse it,or still have Tennat.

Well they had a picture in the paper of the doctor on the floor with rose and them around him, in the paper a few months back so kinda saw something like that coming

The effects were pretty awesome as well for a tv show.

[livrule]

What didn't you like about 'The Sound Of Drums'?

Mmmm, where do I start.....

Its biggest crime was simply being a huge let-down. The last 10 minutes of Utopia were something special but then the RTD infection set in and all we got was singing, dancing and flying balls!

It should have been epic .... not even close.

[Lord Valumart]

Mmmm, where do I start.....

Its biggest crime was simply being a huge let-down. The last 10 minutes of Utopia were something special but then the RTD infection set in and all we got was singing, dancing and flying balls!

It should have been epic .... not even close.

really?

personaly i found the sound of drums to be brilliant and then last of the time lords came around and everything went to hell so very fast...:csad:

it made even less sence than most of the pertwee era:csad::csad:

[BAMFaly]

Yeah, but I didn't think they go all out like they did.

Any thoughts yet on how they'll get away with it? I'm thinking the fact that they are in a small timespace hidden from the rest of the universe will have something to do with it, like it's own rule apply or something. Or how about that yes he regenerates but as the same Doctor? Bit out there I know but technically could happen????

[Dr Lee]

Would this be his last regeneration?

[Lord Valumart]

Would this be his last regeneration?

he's 10....a timelord has 13 lives...

[Tony Ingram]

There's no way this is the end of Tennant. They've just offered him a new pay deal to stay.

[BAMFaly]

There's no way this is the end of Tennant. They've just offered him a new pay deal to stay.

I gotta agree, wondering whether this regen will count or not????

[SpideyLad]

I gotta agree, wondering whether this regen will count or not????

*cough*Magic Reset Button*cough*

[ihateusernames]

If we get a new guy for one episode, I wonder who it could be.

HMMMMMM!?!?!

[Lord Valumart]

it won;t be a new guy....

mcgann dangnambit:cmad:

[BAMFaly]

*cough*Magic Reset Button*cough*

Figured, but who'd push it this time?

And I've always thought Paddy Considine would make an excellent Doctor.

And it's Donna thats gonna die right? RIGHT?

[Lord Valumart]

Figured, but who'd push it this time?

And I've always thought Paddy Considine would make an excellent Doctor.

And it's Donna thats gonna die right? RIGHT?

would rose actually dying be to much for the brains of all the little rose fans to understand?

[Sharkboy]

What a crazy twist it would be to wave goodbye to tennant already. If the whole tennant is off for a year but hell be back is just a hoax, theyve kept the lid on a new doctor very very well.

As much as i love tennant, if he dosent regenerate, Ill be very dissapointed, what a cop out.

[livrule]

really?

personaly i found the sound of drums to be brilliant and then last of the time lords came around and everything went to hell so very fast...:csad:

it made even less sence than most of the pertwee era:csad::csad:

I was seriously disappointed with both ....

Two episodes / one story / one mess.

I liked Simm and think he deserves another shot .... but the story as a whole was a stinker.

[union_jak]

Wow you guys completely gave up on spoiler tags on this page!

[Lord Valumart]

Wow you guys completely gave up on spoiler tags on this page!

the button's over hyped anyhow...

[ihateusernames]

I don't even know where the button is.
Typing the tag out is way to much effot.

I feel bad, cos I called someone out on it earlier.

[Sharkboy]

BTW Bill Nighy for 11th doctor, they jus wouldnt have the stones to do it would they?

[BAMFaly]

would rose actually dying be to much for the brains of all the little rose fans to understand?

Not so much it's just that I really hate Catherine Tate's face. And I've kinda got to agree with not following through with the regen. I'd miss Tennant for sure but it would be a MASSIVE anti-climax...

[Lord Valumart]

Not so much it's just that I really hate Catherine Tate's face. And I've kinda got to agree with not following through with the regen. I'd miss Tennant for sure but it would be a MASSIVE anti-climax...

i like tate...

and i dislike horse face piper...they already chickened out of killing her once, now she has to die...

[regwec]

I really liked the episode. As with last weeks, I think this is Doctor Who finally reaching the potential of its premise. But one question,

did that actually happen, and if so, who the HELL is it going to be? Please, not someone I can't stand. How about a total unknown, fresh from the RSC? It would be amazing to have an absolute newcomer pop up in the middle of a season finale.

[ttotheusher]

So, I think I've got a theory for how its gonna play out.

We've known for some time now that David Tennant is to star in the christmas special, thanks to the spoiler pictures that were leaked. HOWEVER, we also saw David Morrissey in these pictures. Here's what I'm thinking. Tennant will regenrate into Morrissey, and for the special, Morrissey will travel back in time to have a two Doctor episode with Tennant, to give him a proper sendoff. So there.

[Lord Valumart]

So, I think I've got a theory for how its gonna play out.

is it the massive reset button? i bet it's the massive reset button...or atleast some for of varient on the massive reset button...

[ttotheusher]

Sorry, I posted without finishing my post. Its there now.

[Lord Valumart]

yeh...that ideas like a big kick in the balls for tennant fan girls who squee everytime his left index finger moves a little...

not that it's a bad one...jsut i can;t see them doing that...

[ihateusernames]

Some times I feel like a big squealing Tennant fan girl.

BOY, I mean... boy.

[regwec]

From where do the David Morrisey rumours originate?

[Lord Valumart]

From where do the David Morrisey rumours originate?

he was pictured is set photos from the christmas special...

they've been filiming it on the end of this series due to tennants theater work...

[ttotheusher]

I've been trying to find the story, I saw the pictures in the metro.

[ttotheusher]

What Lord Valumart said.

[BAMFaly]

So, I think I've got a theory for how its gonna play out.

We've known for some time now that David Tennant is to star in the christmas special, thanks to the spoiler pictures that were leaked. HOWEVER, we also saw David Morrissey in these pictures. Here's what I'm thinking. Tennant will regenrate into Morrissey, and for the special, and Morrissey will travel back in time to have a two Doctor episode with Tennant, to give him a proper sendoff. So there.


I'd actually be quite happy with Morrisey, but Ijust don't think Tennant will go anywhere anytime soon.

[ttotheusher]

I mean its just a theory. It ties up all the loose ends, it creates a fresh dynamic for Steven Moffats run, and also allows Tennant to come back for the Christmas special. Also, in Doctor Who Confidential, Tennant definately stated that "there's no going back from a regeneration", but he is known to yank our chain a bit.

[Captain_BluTac]

There was a shot that focused on the hand for far to long, so I think there wont be a proper regeneration, and the hand will come into play.

[Captain_BluTac]

Harriet Jones was the red Dalek, yet we saw the red dalek before we saw her and she was supposedly kiled

She never was, it was just a ridiculous rumour started by some crazy fanboys.

[IronLion]

this felt good. honestly. the whole regeneration thing and the whole theory of the bees, it has been building up whole series. it had an epic feel to it. when the doctor was running down the street and got blasted, did you notice it only blasted half of him and i think it was the drums donna heard, remeber back to last year when the master said he looked into the vortex and he heard the drums and donna was told she is special since birthdo you think she will take on the vortex againa and shape time to the way it was. it is said that this is the only series tate is doing and she will die. then there was the " sorry for your loss " line from the shadow proclamation also just remembered that in the first series harriot jones was told by the doctor that she would lead the 'golden age', she will probs be brought back and will be re elected for a second term and that will be the golden age. also did you notice that the sub wave system was developed with the help of 'mr copper'(?), do you think he will be a 'special' character in the future?there is a lot going on, and the way they did the to be continued is worth waiting for:cwink:

[ttotheusher]

I believe (and a quick wikipedia look has proven) that Mr Copper was actually a character from Voyage of the Damned, specifically the one who was left on Earth with millions of pounds. Perhaps he funded the technology to find a way back to his own time? Or even, maybe, he was looking for a way to contact the particles that Kylie turned into?

[ihateusernames]

You kidding? I don't wanna wait, I want it now.
But your theories are what I had, too.

I've got it recorded, I'll download the utopia episode tomorrow and see if the drums are like donna's heartbeat thing. I just don't understand why that was put in there if it was a heartbeat, and then she snapped out of it with a reaction to what was going on.

Plus, the Dr said in the previous episode that it's alomst as if they're destind to be around each other.

[IronLion]

aaaaaahhhhh i see. so he would want to help the doctor then, seeing as he made him a millionaire. forgot about him.

[ttotheusher]

Yea, but he could still be an important character. This is supposed to be the RTD extravaganza remember, anything is possible.

[livrule]

You kidding? I don't wanna wait, I want it now.
But your theories are what I had, too.

I've got it recorded, I'll download the utopia episode tomorrow and see if the drums are like donna's heartbeat thing. I just don't understand why that was put in there if it was a heartbeat, and then she snapped out of it with a reaction to what was going on.

Plus, the Dr said in the previous episode that it's alomst as if they're destind to be around each other.

Donna will have a big part to play in the finale but I'm almost certain it was just a heartbeat .... not the Drums Yana/The Master could hear.

[Tony Ingram]

it won;t be a new guy....

mcgann dangnambit:cmad:I think McGann will be back next year. It'd be a bit too much if he turned up in this years finale along with all the others. But he'll be back! (come on, Paul, I have faith in you)

[BAMFaly]

Donna will have a big part to play in the finale but I'm almost certain it was just a heartbeat .... not the Drums Yana/The Master could hear.

You know I never really thought about any involvment from the Master, but might be possible I suppose. I did think that the scene with her on the stairs seemed a little out of place, like it was meant to mean something...

We all know the Master'll be back, and that, let's face it he traded places with his wife before he died. Could it be possible that Donna Noble is simply the Master? Outlandish, and just not likely one little bit (kinda like that idea though).

[Pirateking]

I just finished watching it. I'm still sitting in my living room typing this (god bless laptops). And all I can say is...WOW! I thought it was absolute genius. Just read back a bit and yes, I heard the drums when the camera focused on Donna. Also liked her little reaction when she first laid eyes on Jack. But the regeneration...didn't see that coming. I'm still buzzing so WOW WOW WOW WOW WOW!!

Oh yeah, and I think Billie's death is WAY overdue, leave Donna out of the dying thing.

[JustABill]

Dalek Caan said....

Death to the most faithful companion. Sounds very Rosey to me. I mean they are all faithful to the Doctor but Rose actually traveled across universe to help him fight this.

[The Lizard]

I'm afraid that I laughed with glee when the Daleks said "Exterminate Torchwood!"

And BTW, Elizabeth Sladen = awesome.

But yeah - it's going to be a long week until that finale. :csad:

[Manic]

It took me a while, but I've finally gotten around to seeing this episode. I have some thoughts...

I liked Elizabeth Sladen. She was pure class, all the way.

Gwen and Ianto weren't annoying, which was good. But then, I suppose that happens when the Torchwood crew can't be shown having sex every 5 minutes.

You just know Dr. Grace Holloway and Adam "thingy in his head" Mitchell received that broadcast, probably along with any surviving Earth-based companions from the Old Who show.

"Harriet Jones, former Prime Minister."
"Yes, we know who you are."
I must be easily amused, because that just never gets old.

You all need to stop with the whole "Is Donna the Master?" crap. Donna heard a steady beat, like a heart. The Master heard an entirely different, somewhat syncopated rhythm. Anyway, that lady from the Shadow Proclamation said that Donna was "something new." Rose said Donna has been giving strange readings since the day she was born. Whatever Donna is, she's likely something we haven't seen before.

Dalek Caan is freaking hilarious when he's crazy.

Bees : Doctor Who :: Dolphins : Hitchhiker's Guide

Someone mind explaining to me why the TARDIS didn't translate the Judoon?

I stand by my theory that Caan's attempt to pull Davros from death is resulting in a paradox that's collapsing the universe. I'm just not sure why it would cascade to other universes.

Now then. The regeneration. I have a hard time believing David Tennant is leaving to make way for a new Doctor. Not because he's reportedly in the Christmas special, but because I can't believe that they'd be able to keep something like this a secret. They couldn't stop the 2005 pilot episode from being stolen and leaked on the internet. We knew Tennant was coming to replace Eccleston before Series One was at its half-way point. And good lord, we knew John Simm was playing Harold Saxon and that Saxon would be the Master long before Series Three started airing. This production team couldn't keep something like "David Tennant leaving and being replaced with [BLANK]" a secret to save their lives.

How did Rose know enough about Donna and Doctor's travels to know the Doctor was supposed to stop the Sontarans, but not know Martha was with them? I mean, even if she missed Martha's year with the Doctor, you'd think she noticed Martha when she played a part in one of Donna's adventures.

[The Squirrel]

WHAT THE CRAP WAS THAT??!?!?!

AMAZING!

Next week needs to be here.... and Davros better have more screen time.

[the_ultimate_evil]

simply wow

they better do something with this regeneration, if its just a tease to keep tennet, though it's good he's staying its a bit of a bulls**t fake out


ok be honest who thought about calling the doctors phone number

[COMPO]

I can't wait for the next week. Aww sad the Doctor dying before he got to see Rose... I knew somethng was going to happen then but didnt think he'd be killed... I wonder if he will regenerate? And I wonder if they'll bring hi daughter back?

[Mister Sinister]

OK, where was the trailer promised for before 1pm?

[livrule]

This was posted on another Who forum as the solution to the regeneration ....

Big spoilers if correct so be careful.

As the Doctor regenerates at the beginning of episode 13 the regeneration energy sparks out and hits the Doctor's hand in the glass jar which he now has in the TARDIS. This causes the regeneration to go badly wrong, causing the Tenth Doctor to remain the Tenth Doctor, and the hand grows into a duplicate of the Tenth Doctor. So, two David Tennant's are running around episode 13.

- The proper Doctor is still in the his brown suit. And Ten's duplicate wears the blue suit. However, the duplicate in the blue suit is human and not a Time Lord...or Gallifreyan.

Some leaked set pictures show Tennant in both suits so I suppose its possible???

[DX]

Journey's End trailer

jUOa_XxfopM

[BAMFaly]

I could see that theory happening livrule, what with the shot of the hand now being includedin the new trailer (excellent btw,seems we'll get some serious Davros in the finale, yay!) however coming back from a Doctor clone? Either they'd have to reset the whole thing or kill him off by the end of the episode I suppose...

[livrule]

I could see that theory happening livrule, what with the shot of the hand now being includedin the new trailer (excellent btw,seems we'll get some serious Davros in the finale, yay!) however coming back from a Doctor clone? Either they'd have to reset the whole thing or kill him off by the end of the episode I suppose...

They claim ...


The Human/Clone Dr stays with Rose at the end of the series to live out his life with the woman he loves in her dimension. I suppose it gives Rose what she wants/deserves and closes her story with a happy ending.

[BAMFaly]

They claim ...


The Human/Clone Dr stays with Rose at the end of the series to live out his life with the woman he loves in her dimension. I suppose it gives Rose what she wants/deserves and closes her story with a happy ending.


Dunno, I'm under the impression Rose dies because of the mention of death coiming to "the most faithful companion" unless they're trying to say that that's Donna.

[JustABill]

As much as I would love Rose to have a happy ending. The idea of the Doctor splitting in two and one being human sounds utterly retarded as does the idea that Rose would settle for a Doctor clone.

[Manic]

They claim ...


The Human/Clone Dr stays with Rose at the end of the series to live out his life with the woman he loves in her dimension. I suppose it gives Rose what she wants/deserves and closes her story with a happy ending.

Who is "They"?

[Dark Spidey]

I think that the Donna is The Master theories are ridiculous.

But could it be possible that she's The Rani?

[IronLion]

just watched it again and it is a heartbeat not drums.not saying donna is the master, but the shadow proclamation did say she is new. also with the doc going on the run, do you think the specials for next year will be a 'fugitive' style doctor on the run, while doing good. sort of like the a team..

[IronLion]

i also cant wait for kitchensink to get invovled next week, what a build up......

[Lord Valumart]

They claim ...


The Human/Clone Dr stays with Rose at the end of the series to live out his life with the woman he loves in her dimension. I suppose it gives Rose what she wants/deserves and closes her story with a happy ending.


what she wants is the happy ever after with the dr...

what she deserves is death...

[IronLion]

what she wants is the happy ever after with the dr...

what she deserves is death...

:lmao:

[Lord Valumart]

well it's true...

anyone remember "this is the story of how i died"? she should be dead...dead you hear me? DEAD!!!

[The Lizard]

ok be honest who thought about calling the Doctors phone number

I'll let you Brits try that one out. Let me know what happens...

07700 900461

[IronLion]

I'll let you Brits try that one out. Let me know what happens...

07700 900461


bah

:cmad:


its a deadline. i thought their might be a message or something.

[ttotheusher]

Did anyone else not think it was randomley hilarious when Ianto said "He is funny though". I almost wet myself. :woot:

[The Squirrel]

Anyone have a link to the trailer that works?

[regwec]

I have grown to like Tennant a great deal, and I don't want to lose him at this stage. He was gunned down by a Dalek's energy beam, however, and his regeneration had begun. It would cheapen both those elements of the mythology if they were reversed or betrayed, unless the reasons were absolutely compelling.

[The Squirrel]

I have grown to like Tennant a great deal, and I don't want to lose him at this stage. He was gunned down by a Dalek's energy beam, however, and his regeneration had begun. It would cheapen both those elements of the mythology if they were reversed or betrayed, unless the reasons were absolutely compelling.

I don't care if the reason is complete bs... I am selfish and want Tennant to stick around and beat Tom's record.

[livrule]

Who is "They"?

A poster on another forum with a decent track record of correct spoilers.

[The Lizard]

I don't care if the reason is complete bs... I am selfish and want Tennant to stick around and beat Tom's record.

I must agree. Tennant is the bee's knees. :up:

[livrule]

I have grown to like Tennant a great deal, and I don't want to lose him at this stage. He was gunned down by a Dalek's energy beam, however, and his regeneration had begun. It would cheapen both those elements of the mythology if they were reversed or betrayed, unless the reasons were absolutely compelling.

Thats Sci-fi ....

Writers can and will change the rules any time they want.

[Gold Samurai]

Bees : Doctor Who :: Dolphins : Hitchhiker's Guide



: Whales : Star Trek the voyage home ;)

*cough*Magic Reset Button*cough*

I agree this is like the doctor turning old in the sound of drums. A cliffhanger moment. There's so many theories about what will happen next

Another bit of info I found on another message board. David Morrissey was heard doing dialogue with the new -- and likely temporary -- companion for this year's Christmas special. "The Doctor's companion will do what the Doctor says! Now go!"

Proof much? And, if I'm not much mistaken, the Doctor usually refers to himself in the third person only after post-regenerative trauma. This could indicate that in "Journey's End," Doctor #11 is in no shape to one-up Davros. Here's my even more refined theory as to what happens.

At the beginning of next week's episode, regeneration #10 completes, and there stands David Morrissey, the Eleventh Doctor. Everyone is excited until he begins demonstrating HIGHLY erratic behavior. Possibly even debilitating physical weakness. Hearts sink, until...

SMASH! Reacting to its original owner undergoing the somewhat traumatic regenerative process nearby, the Hand bursts from its preservative fluid and begins crawling around. The Hand begins to change, to grow... And after an offscreen growth/morph process, DAVID TENNANT stands up, stark naked and his usual, wacky/toothy self. ("Huh, naked. That's weird.") The Hand has, itself, regenerated, the Doctor's tenth regeneration being the catalyst. And because the Hand was still settling into the ninth regeneration, it keeps the traits of the Tenth Doctor. It is, in effect, Doctor #10 reborn.

Also, since the Hand was cut from the Tenth Doctor at a time following his own post-regenerative trauma, this Doctor is far more stable than the Eleventh Doctor, both mentally and physically. Doctor 10v2 is already up to speed with the situation because he and #11 have their memories more or less tied together through the Tardis. After quickly dressing in his favorite blue pinstripe and trainers, he's ready to face Davros.

In any case, Morrissey's Doctor is quickly ushered off screen to go rest and settle into regeneration. We will likely not see him until the end of this episode, and he will likely not be of much use before the Christmas special.

Now, I'm not sure how far apart the Tenth Doctor's glorious return will be from the time of the Doctor's tenth regeneration. The way I described it above, it would be almost immediate. But personally, I think it would be kind of neat to leave the companions to deal with Davros on their own. At the last minute, just before it looks like everyone is royally screwed... In walks Tennant! And he looks at Davros and is all like, "BOOYAH!" Kind of like how last year he was pretty much out of commission until the Angel Network de-aged him.

The rumor that the Doctor gets split in two in the finale has been floating around for ages. And suspicions have been high about Morrissey, one of the leading candidates to be the Eleventh Doctor, being in the Christmas special and wearing an outfit that smacks of the Doctor's closet. But up until this point, no one could quite fathom how they'd execute the split. The fact that the Hand has been getting more screen time as of late has been a big clue. And now, we have a cliffhanger regeneration before our very eyes. The evidence is mounting.

2. 11th doctor stays in alt universe while Tennant stays.

3. Two Tennants

4. The regenerations happens and we get doctor 11 but the hand grows into 10.

5. The hand will save the doctor from regenerating into 11

[Manic]

Has anyone else noticed that ring Donna's always wearing on her hand? You know, the big ass gem. She's always wearing it.

[ttotheusher]

I get that there's a lot of Tennant fans out there, and I'm one of them, but will they please accept that he is regenerating, and that this is the end of the Tennnant era? I'm sick of all these theories that he will clone himself and stuff.
(Of course, now I'll look like a complete jackass if the theories are proven correct)

[Pirateking]

Has anyone else noticed that ring Donna's always wearing on her hand? You know, the big ass gem. She's always wearing it.

I've noticed it but not really thought about it. What are you thinking?

[livrule]

I get that there's a lot of Tennant fans out there, and I'm one of them, but will they please accept that he is regenerating, and that this is the end of the Tennnant era? I'm sick of all these theories that he will clone himself and stuff.
(Of course, now I'll look like a complete jackass if the theories are proven correct)

Sorry but ....


Its almost certain that Tennant is NOT leaving ... the regeneration will go wrong ... it was just used to create an exciting climax to the episode.

[The Englishman]

Well that was a Fantastic episode! With all the characters involved it did not feel too cramped, it felt epic. I also believe that this is not the end of Tennant and something will go wrong with the regeneration and that Sarah Jane, Gwen and Ianto are not Dead. I think it will have something to do with that key Martha has. I think Tennant is going to stick around because both River Song and Queen Elisabeth 1st reconised him and he has not met them yet....

[Pirateking]

I may watch it again later.

As of last night I've resolved to stop speculating and have resolved just to wait until Saturday...this week is already starting to drag.

[The Englishman]

Has anyone got a picture of David Morrissey in the Christmas special??

[The Englishman]

I may watch it again later.

As of last night I've resolved to stop speculating and have resolved just to wait until Saturday...this week is already starting to drag.
I think that may just be the best thing to do, go with the flow....

[SpideyLad]

Has anyone got a picture of David Morrissey in the Christmas special??

http://img.dailymail.co.uk/i/pix/2008/04_04/MorrisseyPOTP_468x492.jpg

There you go.

[The Englishman]

http://img.dailymail.co.uk/i/pix/2008/04_04/MorrisseyPOTP_468x492.jpg

There you go.

Emrmm....... Very Doctor like. If we were getting a New Doctor i'd be very happy with him, much better then James Nesbit!!

[Magneto29]

I had a thought . People are saying that there are going to be 2 Doctor's. One in a blue suit, another in the brown. I really dunno where it'd fit in, but if they both survive, it reminded me of what River Song said, about him not being "her" Doctor. In that she only ends up with the cloned Doctor. But also she said that when he showed up "with a new suit and a haircut", perhaps for some reason it was the other Doctor that shows up there, not her's, given the different suit and hair. It doesn't really go anywhere, but it seemed to fit.

[the_ultimate_evil]

the more i think about the more i think they have really painted themselves into a corner with this, either they have the balls to end tennant's run or come up with some explanation which will most likely turn the fans against them

[ttotheusher]

Typical RTD writing then. Remember the whole age the Doctor a 100 years thing last year? Purlease.

[The Englishman]

Any pictures of David Tennant and David Morrissey together??

[JustABill]

http://img247.imageshack.us/img247/5421/drwhoxmasspecialfilmingdu4.png

[The Englishman]

http://img247.imageshack.us/img247/5421/drwhoxmasspecialfilmingdu4.png
Mabey The 10th Doctor meets his future self, i'd like that in the Christmas special....

[ttotheusher]

I did suggest that a couple of pages back.

[The Englishman]

I did suggest that a couple of pages back.
Well good, great minds think alike. When does RTD leave and Moffat takes over??

[JustABill]

After the 2009 specials, Moffat takes over for Series 5 and onward.

[Captain_BluTac]

Right I've thought and thought and thought about it and

As for The Doctor

I think that the way Jenny regenerated (as herself) will come into play with the doctors regeneration, this could also be why they focused on the jar hand since they grew Jenny from the skin off the doctors hand.

As for Donna

I was thinking about the phrase Davros used "children of time" and eventually I came to the conclusion that Donna has some sort of Timelord ancestor(making her something new) but she doesn't have enough Timelord DNA to regenerate or anything, but her DNA gives her some form of (inadvertent) greater awareness, which is why she is always somewhere else when all the alien stuff happened before she met The Doctor.

[JustABill]

I don't know. I just don't see why Donna has to be anything even remotely alien or out of the ordinary. I just like her as a temp worker who was pushed into extraordinary things by The Doctor.

Like Rose said in Turn Left, The Doctor bringing the brilliance out in average people.

[Captain_BluTac]

I don't know. I just don't see why Donna has to be anything even remotely alien or out of the ordinary. I just like her as a temp worker who was pushed into extraordinary things by The Doctor.

Like Rose said in Turn Left, The Doctor bringing the brilliance out in average people.

Don't get me wrong I would prefer Donna not to be special but the show has rammed it down our throats a few times in the past couple of eps so she will end up being alien or something along those lines.:o

[Red X]

I don't want Tennant to leave.